Origins and Spiritual Implications of Halloween
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Satan doesn't reward anybody for free. There's always a trade. Off that soapbox. So what do you do about it? As a Christian, your number one job is to become educated. This means do not be deceived. And the Bible says, like we talked about, my people perish for a lack of knowledge.
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So what I would have you research is number one, the origins of jack-o'-lanterns, the origins of trick-or-treat, I would look up direct quotes from the founder of the Church of Satan, Anton LaVey, and what he talked about as he prophesied what happens on the night of Halloween to your children and to your family.
00:00:31
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Look up the origins of Halloween. Now, we can debate all day long if it's a Christian origin, if it's a pagan origin, but here's what I want to ask you. Is it a Jesus thing?
Rural Living and Local Experiences
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And Casey, I, you know, I moved like you. I'm trying to follow in your footsteps, moved into the middle of kind of nowhere. You're definitely way in the, more in the middle of nowhere than I am.
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Like you need a fucking quad to get around like your neighborhood just to go see your like your neighbors and shit. But like, um um I'm really enjoying where I live. I'm finding like on my drive,
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drive Driving out of my town, I'm just noticing the beauty. andm like I used to be like, ah why would i want to live there? It's kind of like far. It's not even far out. It's just farther off than I'm used to.
00:01:43
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um Not a lot going on. like if we want to If we want to get takeout, we have like two options. um And one is gas station fried chicken, which is pretty good. like it's not It's pretty good.
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um Chester's. And then yeah the other is... um It's just whatever the one local pizza place that you can order a a super beef three-way from. And I really enjoy those. I love super good beef love a good super beef three-way. My mouth's watering. It's a North Shore thing. I think they maybe were from that area and they kind of brought it out to this area. But it's basically just like eight at least a pound of roast beef with ah Tennessee, I think it's a Tennessee barbecue, horseradish sauce, and probably mayo or something.
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It's great. On pizza? on a No, no, no. On a giant like onion roll. Oh, okay. That sounds pretty good. It's a good deal. It's only like 10, 12 bucks, something like that for this like pounder of a sandwich. Like it you, you take it out of the bag and you're like, I'm about to, this is, you hold it up to your stomach to make sure it can fit. Like it's, it's a good size sandwich.
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Yeah. ah But anyway, so not a lot going on out here, but I do, I love it. Like I drive by all these little farms, like all day, everyone did that last cut of the year and you see all the bat the hair hay bales in the field, really beautiful.
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Um, But I was getting pumped because there's a new brewery in my town. And the brewery thing gets a little bit old. That's such like a that's just it's it's very cliche, right? it's It's 37, three kids like that. That's where dads go to hang out and pretend like their life has meaning for a moment before they go back to just thinking about everything else that makes them wonder.
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if life's worth living. But, uh, I was like, okay, this is cool. Uh, the place looks kind of neat, kind of dumpy, but like neat, lot of outdoor space, a nice, like like, like a pavilion.
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And, uh, I was like, that'll be cool going into the fall. So I met up with my friend there. Um, kind of weird just going there. Like all the people working there was a little bit weird.
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Um, it's like their first day in like customer service where they like don't know how to talk to people. Like it's not natural yet. It's just like, yeah. So they ask, you know, i'm looking at the the menu, uh, the list, beer list, whatever.
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My friend and I pick out a beer. this lady cannot pour a beer to save her goddamn life like she pours it and it's just like you see like two inches of beer at the bottom of the glass and the rest is foam so she's like pouring the foam into another cup and pouring more beer in but just foams up more like she cannot pour this beer i'm sitting there for like probably a minute and a half while i just keep watching her pour beer and pour out the foam pour beer and pour out the foam By the time I get it, it's kind of a little flat.
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And it's definitely way too much foam. The head on it was like, I'm missing like two ounces of beer because this bitch just got tired of pouring foam out of my glass. What makes it foam up?
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um I honestly... don't know it might have been an issue and sometimes it's the line there's a few different temperature the line pressure possibly um i don't know also just the way you hold the glass when you pour the beer in um but it could also just be away the co2 because a lot of it's like a lot of beer is like it's not as old it's like a lot of times co2 is pumped into the lines um it's like It's not carbon. like go ah
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Whatever. I don't want to be that fucking beer dickhead. I don't know a lot about it. I just know enough and I don't feel like talking about it. So great question. I'm not an alcoholic. I'm aficionado. Yeah. So anyway, by Friday and night, we grab our beers. We don't take a sip um until we're away from the lake. We walk out into the field.
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ah That kind of just looks like a scene from like, it like it's like if you were behind the scenes of a horror movie while it was like well lit. and like they It's whatever. Fuck it. then who's go Who cares? It's called Bike House.
00:05:51
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Bike House Brewing. So their whole thing's bikes, and they overdo it with the around the area, they have like a bike wall where they like welded bikes together, and they're just like shitty, dumpy-ass bikes.
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ah It's like Millennial Cracker Barrel. Yeah.
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So we wait till we're far away because the worst thing you can do is like taste a beer of a new place and have them because she's like, yeah, we brew it all here. like It's the whole team. It's like the startup team is there. They're pumped about this.
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They're all i don't know if they're all part of the process, but I ah it sucks when they look at you. they're like, yeah, like smile and nod like they're waiting for you to be like, yeah, this is great. My friend takes a sip of his beer and he looks at me with like a grin on his face. I'm like, oh, is it pretty good? He goes, no, I want to dump the whole thing out.
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he's It was horrendous. these are So I tried mine. The two worst beers I've ever had in my life from like a craft brewery. So it's not a match. It's not just the foaminess and stuff. It actually tastes No, it was like...
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it Like when people talk about bad beer tasting like cat piss, this is the first time I had a beer where I'm like, this must be what cat piss actually tastes like. That's what all beer tastes like to me.
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Yeah, that's what people say um who have tried cat piss but haven't did actually had beer. Do they serve soda? ah don't. i don't they have ah They definitely have non-alcoholic options.
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um But it had like it was like almost like a wet mildew-y hay flavor. Like... Um, like a hayride after a thunderstorm.
Awkward Brewery Tales
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So I, we both get another beer and we're like, both, and they were, they were both awful again. Under like, I mean, we drank them because we paid for it and we ended up going inside just playing darts.
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But like, yeah, The darts is why we were there. It was like just to be out and doing something, but it was like i so bad. They did ciders too. Ciders were fine, but they didn't have like just a regular hard cider.
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Every hard cider they had was like mixed with like 17 different spices and flavors. And I'm like, I just want something fucking regular. Like why they don't have a regular thing for people.
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And, um, But we ended up going inside. Inside's kind of cool looking. There was a guy playing, uh, like country style music, but like doing covers, great voice. It was just good. I liked him. Good.
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I'd give him a plug if I remembered his name, but, um, we that We're like, we see the dartboard. We're like, do you guys have darts? um And they're like, ah the lady's like, yeah, we have house darts. She kept calling him house darts. She was very emphatic about the house part. It was like house darts.
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You're looking for house darts. I'm like, yeah, just darts. I mean, whatever you guys have. Yeah, the house darts. and That's what they are. That's fine. If they're the house darts, can we get the house darts? Then the guy comes out from the back, clearly like one of the owners.
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um And she's like, do you have the house darts? And he's like, the house darts? She's like, yeah, the house darts. And he's like, like just the darts, like the darts for the dartboard. She's like yeah, the house darts. I'm like, this is the dumbest conversation I've ever been able i've never heard in my life and that is that because like guys that are super into darts bring their own darts with them like a like a dude owns a bowling ball it must be uh the house bowling ball i don't go to a bowling alley and ask for the house bowling balls try your house balls please but i'm like i wouldn't be asking for him if i brought my own i'm like i yeah anyway so the guy's like i mean yeah i'll have to go back and look for him she's like could you he's like
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Okay. Like, I don't want to be here anymore. They don't even have the darts out? No, like they didn't. Because they're they kind of just opened. We were probably the very first people who asked for darts.
00:09:48
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But what blew my mind was when the guy came out with a dart set. To me, it looked like a decent dart set. He opens up, he goes, ah, sorry, that's all I have. Like, bitch, I obviously don't play darts. I don't even know how to score darts.
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I don't know how to play darts. That's why I'm asking for your darts, and I didn't bring mine. So he but he's like apologizing about the dart sets. There's like there's a lot of darts and you can I had like little replacement fins to go on. I'm like, I don't know what any this shit does.
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I I'm just gonna it doesn't matter. So he's like, yeah, sorry. That's all I got. Realistically, like, you know, I'm sure you're not bad at darts, but I think you're too good of a dad to be good at darts.
00:10:29
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Yeah, that might be it. I spend too much time with my children. Is that saying? Yes, that's absentee father sport.
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You mean anybody who's really good at darts, you know he's got a couple of latchkey kids. thinking of absentee father's sports though he he he brings a he after he's done apologizing for the dart set he's like yeah it's just uh all it's i it's what i had left over from my kids they um they disowned me what and i i wasn't i did a bomb to drop on your first customer i was like that's a sick trauma dump i'm just trying to play darts and drink beer with my friend
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And I look at him and I'm like, I always do the same thing when ah people say things that I don't care about. And it's just like, that's that's it. That's my only response to people saying stuff. That is a lot. And I don't know how to respond. So I'm i'm like, I thought it was a joke at first. And he's like,
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he he made some additional comment about how long it's been since his kids have talked to him. And I'm just like, su as soon as he walked away, my friend and I were like, under, it's in most circumstances.
00:11:48
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So let's, let's hash this out. Maybe you can come up with, maybe you can add to this conversation. Okay. and But before I open this can of worms, the only other thing I wanted to mention about this place is they had a dog there.
Controversial Statements and Offense
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Their dog was there running around saying hi to everybody. I'm literally getting ready to throw darts and he sticks his nose up my asshole. Like he just shows up of nowhere. And then i I go, when I go to order another drink, the dog's like sitting at the bar.
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Like someone put him in a stool and the dog's paws were like, they were like, they were holding him, like petting him and his paws were on the bar. And I'm like, fuck this place. I don't, Boy, that is a that is a millennial-centered ah environment. that's like That's like putting a box out for and and watching your cat sit in it.
00:12:33
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I think you got like a house dog, you got house darts, you got bad craft beer and and ah and bikes stuck to the wall. Dude, the millennials are coming.
00:12:45
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it Except for millennials want decent beer. So, I mean, that place will close in six months. I guarantee it. i um And the guy who i mean the guy who runs it looks like he'd wear, like, ah you stomp my flag, you stop I stomp your ass shirt.
00:12:59
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It looks like he listens to, like, Stained while crying about his children no longer talking to him. He just... It doesn't have a look of a guy that I care about spending time with if I'm basing it on just looks alone.
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um Which is fair. But and so we were talking like what I'm trying to think of scenarios where like children decide to stop talking to their parents because it was the kid's fault because the kid sucked, you know? Yeah.
00:13:31
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Like you told me a lot about who you are with that, like your children. It wasn't one of your kids. That might be normal, especially ex-evangelical shit, right? You go, I cut my parents off because they voted for Trump or I cut my parents off until they can apologize for letting me get molested at church for 14 years. Something like that.
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ah Totally different ends of the spectrum, but like – I, when this guy's talking about it or just dropping that bomb, I'm like, I'm not, there's not a lot of things that come to mind about where you go.
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I'm sorry that that happened to you. I'm sure you had nothing to do with it. Yeah. I, I don't know. Maybe, maybe ah some sort of ugly custody battle and maybe he had a spouse that, i don't know.
00:14:17
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what if you there's no scenario that i trans man and his kids are transphobic that that could be maybe his kids are ugandan news anchors and why are you gay you are gay
00:14:35
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speaking of which have you seen the clip did i send you the clip of it i might not have because i was going to like download it but ah there's like a clip that's been going around of like a pastor think in Uganda and ah he's he's like giving a presentation about he's part of the anti-homosexuality task force oh they have a whole task force yeah is that a government sanctioned thing or is that just like the church like the they church has a task force
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I don't know. it feels like it could have some sort of like, uh, like loose government ties. It's like deputization in a way you've been deputed. You've been deputized into the anti-homosexual task force. Is that it? Yeah. This, this is this guy's name is like Martin Semper or something like that, I think.
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And he's talking to this big group of people in this church and there's some kid, I think there's kids there and stuff too. But he goes he's he's describing like, he's trying to paint a picture of why they have to oppose homosexuality.
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And he's he goes on this big rant where he's like, he's like, They do a thing called analicking, where they lick the did itja licks the other man's anus.
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and And sometimes the poo-poo come out. It comes out like ice cream. Oh, come on. And then he pulls up his laptop and shows pictures.
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It's just a whole room full of guys in suits. And he's showing them gay porn on his laptop. It's blurred out. But he's like, look, look. and they're going, oh, oh. That's unbelievable.
00:16:22
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It is out of control. And the whole time I'm just thinking like, what could I do? How could I book this guy to speak at my old church?
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Bring your laptop. Don't forget your laptop.
00:16:40
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It's so insane. He's like ah describing just the most like ridiculous, untrue version of like gay sex and then pulls out his laptop and shows pictures.
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du thing i've ever seen and Dude, he he treats that like, um like just one of those like awful aspects of the job that just it's like a cop who has to like go through a bunch of CP to like, figure out who the victims are.
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He thinks he's on that level. Like he went through that for his congregation. Yeah, where did you find them? Why were you there? i thought that didn You took those with your computer. like that <unk>s like He's like, they also do anal fisting.
00:17:26
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Anal fisting where the one man sticks his arm all the way into the other man's anus. And it it is so painful they have to take drugs to endure it, but they enjoy it.
00:17:39
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You got to look it up. You got look it up. It's terrible, but it is comical in a terrible sort of way. It is funny too. Anal, like it's like,
00:17:51
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dude It's like, does the guy not, does the guy really not know that straight people engage in that act as well? Or is it, is it just the fact that it's a ah man's butt that's so awful to him?
00:18:04
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He's such an awful person. I would bet. If you, if you line up a bunch of like a butt glory hole, right. You just line up a bunch of butts, fully shaved. No, like you're not going to define You're not gonna be like, that's a hairy ass crack. That's going to be a dude. You just line up a bunch of butts and,
00:18:20
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And he had to go down the rope and lick all of them. He's never going to know which ones are gods. No, probably not. So, and if he figures it out, he might, he might climb in.
00:18:32
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He's, like he's an awful dude. Cause like he's, there's video of him, like doing like quote unquote debates. With people who are like legitimate, like gay rights activists, like serious defenders.
00:18:45
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Why do people debate guys like that? That never makes any sense to me. Like, stop. Like, what? it's I mean, he must have a decent enough platform over there, but... He's certainly noisy, but... Dude, so we being in that it's it's spooky season...
Critiques of Halloween and Consumerism
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Oh, spooky season.
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o I say that ah all the time, and April hates it. It's so annoying. It really is annoying. But it's so annoying that I say it to be annoying, knowing... It's it's just like a inception form of annoying related to halloween there is so many things that were like that are now like mentally associated with like all that like cosplay comic-con stuff that she used to do we used to know tons of people in and stuff and anything that's like flagged in my mind is like part of that like the vast majority of it is is because it's really annoying
00:19:41
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Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because people literally just wore it out like like Anchorman quotes or something, you know? Right. Like they're the first to say ah thing like it like we've talked about this before, but it's like every time you go to like an Instagram or like, OK, the National Guard, the Texas National Guard that got deployed to Ohio. What city did they go to?
00:20:04
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but it was just a picture of a bunch of fat dudes and everyone's like the first guy it's meal team six gravy seals everyone wants to be the first to say it yeah and that like it's just it's worn out like that where you're like you're not funny come up with a new one don't just repeat the one that you saw 14 times and you jizzed your pants over the idea that you saw this post four seconds after it dropped so you could comment that there's There's nothing I, nothing, nothing offends me more than just like repetitive, like milquetoast humor. yeah Internet comments. Yeah.
00:20:40
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But the, ah so we've been watching a bunch of like scary movies, you know, just because, and. There's eight of them, isn't there? Yeah, definitely not watching those scary movies.
00:20:53
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Yeah. But there's, you know, we've watched quite a few of them. Most of them have been pretty good. You know, it's a lot of rewatches and stuff like we re rewatched the Blair Witch Project the other day.
00:21:05
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i've still never seen that. I've never. It's awesome. It's like the original found footage movie. Yeah, I think it's great. Very well acted like when you watch it now because it does look like it's very low budget, you know, but they did a really good job with it. But we were like cruising through hbo Go or HBO Max, whatever it is now, and looking at all the scary movies on there and there's like, uh, there's one called candy man.
00:21:31
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Yeah. Yeah. and I remember there's a series of those, right. They just recently like remade candy man and I'd never seen it. So I'm like, I don't know. but Let's watch it. It's Clive Barker.
00:21:43
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You know, that's a name that you at least recognize. So we we put it on. and Oh, my God. It's so bad. it's It's so bad.
00:21:53
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And so, like, the whole thing is set, like, the... the ah spoiler alert if you're gonna watch this horrible movie I guess can you spoil horror movies I mean can you spoil remakes of horror movies especially but all horror movies are like you have 45 50 minutes of people getting hacked to death and then ah ah one brief moment at the end where they poorly try to explain how all of this even started happening and it ruins the film that's most of them yeah well so candy candy man is like this hook-handed ghoul who was uh he was like ah a slave in the 1800s and he was murdered by a group of people and then he came comes back and like he haunts the hood basically okay and
00:22:40
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So the movie follows this like white lady who's part of a university like research group that is like doing a paper on urban legends. And the whole thing with Candyman is like the urban legend aspect of him is what keeps him alive and and moving and functioning and whatnot.
00:22:59
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So people talking about it. So he he has to shed innocent blood to spread the rumors and stuff that keep him alive and powerful and feared and stuff like that. Right. So doesn't want to kill, he just has to, to stay alive? No, he likes it.
00:23:15
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Okay. character really doesn't make sense. Yeah, I already see some holes in this. And so so we're watching this, and it's it's from like 1992. And it is the most absurd, like, kind of like borderline offensive representation of like, you know,
00:23:37
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urban environments and black neighborhoods, black culture, all this kind of stuff, you know, and, and so watching it. Like one of the buildings that she goes in, she meets this like single mom, you know, who's raising this baby on her own. And, and she lives in this big apartment building in the hood. And like they go in there and every square inch of this building inside is covered in graffiti.
00:24:01
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There's never been a building that looks like this. It's a wild. It's over the top. And so I'm like sitting there watching it. And I finally like, like 30 minutes in, I'm just like, what is Clive Barker?
00:24:12
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Is Clive Barker black? And I ah Google, no, Clive Barker is very pasty. He's a white guy. It's a, the whole time like a Barker in it. He's the, he's the creator. So like he okay okay he wrote the story, I think, or the original story that it's based on or whatever.
00:24:28
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And so like, every time there was some like absurd, like racist stereotype or, or something that played out. And I just look at April and be like, Clive Barker knows black people.
00:24:42
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How did this get made? You know, at one point while there's like this outdoor bathroom next to like a, a basketball hoop area whatever.
00:24:55
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And it's all decrepit and run down and stuff like everything. Everything in the movie looks like that. And the the white lady's like, she's talking to this little kid and he's like, he's like, I can't talk about that.
00:25:09
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What is she even doing there? She's doing research on like like a call, like an essay on ah urban legends. She's trying to get like a paper published. Gotcha. Because that's the only way a white lady would ah end up in a neighborhood like that.
00:25:22
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Yeah, exactly. It has that feel to it. Like she's, ah she's venturing out into the, into the wilderness or something. It's so ridiculous. And she's like, she's asking this kid questions. He's like, I can't talk about that.
00:25:38
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Candyman will come get me. And she's like, Candyman. She's like, you don't believe in Candyman, do you? And he's like, he's like, Oh, Candyman is real. He killed little Ray Ray.
00:25:50
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Or something like that. Right over there in that in that bathroom. It's like he went in there looking for something. He said, I heard screaming. When they went in there, he was just laying on the ground covered in blood, holding himself.
00:26:03
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Found his pecker floating in the toilet. Can't fix that. Better off dead. And you're just watching and you're like... Kill me. It's 1992, but how does this get made? Like, this is crazy. And the idea of, like, i can't I can't talk about that goes on to talk about that in length.
00:26:22
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Exactly. It's a horrible movie. Watch Blair Witch, skip Candyman. That's what I would say. But um I think it's only...
00:26:34
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I think because of the the season that we're coming into and the many dangers that it brings, I wanted to ah to to talk a little bit about you know things that you can do to protect your family.
Spiritual Warnings about Halloween
00:26:46
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Okay. um ah From evil spirits. Some like just evil people. You're talking, you're on the spiritual side of things, given it's Halloween. All evil. And I, I happen to find maybe the, the best possible person that we can, that we can hear from on this. So this is a 20 something white girl. Okay.
00:27:07
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it actually happen in the spirit on halloween that you are not going to see in the natural realm as someone who was a second generation white witch for over a decade you can trust what i have to say let me say this first i'm not asking you to change anything okay i know that you see videos around this time of year every year so first off she's second white second generation white witch for more than a decade and if if there's if there's anything that bland white girls love doing It's giving themselves a ah like a mythical backstory.
00:27:40
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so I had to look up what a white witch was, and it's apparently just anybody who tries to use their their magical powers for good, basically.
00:27:51
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Gotcha. Yeah, that makes sense. I also the the way that she is talking is that's like a that's the cadence. That's the online cadence for it's like they're mimicking the A.I. voice kind of the vocal patterns.
00:28:09
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But. That is a very prevalent tone that comes with people saying things that do not have any actual support for their claims.
00:28:22
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Yeah. And part of what gives it the rhythm that it has every single time is the fact that like, because it's put together for these platforms, like all of the dead space is cut out of it. Yeah.
00:28:33
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And it it makes it seem more like official, I think, or authorative authoritative. in a, in a weird way. Yeah. All right. So continuing. um Christian saying, don't do this. You can't say this. You can't, I'm not, this isn't that I'm not asking you to do anything.
00:28:49
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I'm not asking you to stop anything. I am only asking you to listen to a real life experience and things that factually actually happen in the spirit and in the natural around this time of year and take it to the Lord in prayer and ask for his heart on it.
00:29:01
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That's all I'm asking you to do. It is between you and the Lord. what i your family decide to do But what is between me and the Lord is that I'm obedient to his word. And Ephesians 5 11, it says, take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
00:29:13
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So let's get into it. To understand first that this is the season of the witches is one of the most important things that you can realize. The witches, the warlocks, the Satanists, the occultists, the New Agers, they all know that this season of the year is extremely spiritually charged, and you will therefore see the repercussions of that in the natural.
00:29:31
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Anyone that partakes in this season in a spiritual manner of this such will tell you, point-blank period to your face, that on the night of Halloween, the spiritual veil is at its thinnest, and they will spend half the year to the entire year preparing...
00:29:42
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All right. First of all, on Halloween, the spiritual veil is at its thinnest. That is language that every one of these videos uses, by the way. But like, take us, take the solstice, right? There's some significance that comes with solstice, uh, summer a winter.
00:30:01
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And those dates shift because you can't just pick a static date on a the, what do we have? The Roman calendar? What they call it? It's the Roman calendar. Uh, I don't know.
00:30:13
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ah Whatever. Who gives a shit? On the i calendar. Mine calendar. Yep. That's the one where Christ has already been. That ended, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. In 2020. Was that 2020? No. When was that? Anyway, who cares?
00:30:26
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ah But to say Halloween is always on October 31st. Always. If they're... if they're like You're just saying that date, regardless of all the other forces in the world, the shifting in time and season and everything. Like...
00:30:42
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october 31st that static date on our calendar is is that is the date the magical date in which the spiritual veils the thinnest that's right immediately you just go that's horseshit you don't know what you're talking about but it's like they they act like it's rooted in some sort of like astrological or not astrological astro astra astro astronom astronomical whatever who've but Yeah, I think astronomical is what you were looking for.
00:31:14
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Whatever. It's not rooted in anything. it's just like It's just like made up. It's like we made up the calendar so that way we could show up to places on time and the spirits abide by that. Yeah. i I think it's funny, too. It's like over and over again. like The more of these videos I watch, the more you hear like that language of...
00:31:33
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Like the thing about Halloween is it's the, that diet is when the, the spiritual veil between the living and the dead is at its thinnest. And it's like, well, what?
00:31:44
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All right. Like, I'll indulge you a little bit here. If we're all Bible-believing Christians, where where do we have any reference between the about the spiritual veil between the living and the dead? Like, where does that exist in the Bible? Because I don't remember that passage.
00:32:00
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There was a veil that was torn after Jesus died. So if you ask me, the work is already finished. It is finished. In him, Jesus Christ our Lord. And really, there is no...
00:32:13
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thinner veil than a veil that is torn right that's it's extra thin it it's two ply at that point i guess it's two fly maybe it's a little harder to tear it's like it's like that game where you rip a piece of paper in half and then put them on top of each other and you rip it again and you put on top of each other and you rip it again yeah like in youth group Yeah. well is there ah Is there an equal and opposite like equivalent to this? Like is Easter the night when the the the spiritual veil the thickest?
00:32:49
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Something about that sounds weird. The spiritual veil is so thick. So would that be a safe time to carve a pumpkin if we did it like, I don't July 31st or something? Right. Nothing bad can happen if we just start celebrating Halloween on July 31st. That's a great point.
00:33:08
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There's one part of it. I'm very excited. I'm very excited for this first little piece here for you. The thing that makes me sad about that is to realize that the devil spends 364 days a year preparing strategically in the spirit for one single day to come against Christians. And what we see Christians doing is partaking in that day along with them. go Instead of spending 364 days defending strategy against the devil. maybe ed and Makes you think who is more dedicated to mission here.
00:33:36
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But honestly I don't blame them. The Bible says that my people perish for a lack of knowledge. It's simply because they just don't know. A list of things that you should know starting this year to protect you and your family is number one, in the stores where you go and find these costumes that you can dress your kids up with, you can dress yourselves up with.
00:33:52
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These aisles have been hexed. They have been cursed. There have been rituals and even sacrifices placed over these costumes so that when you put them on your children and when you put them on yourselves, you are unknowingly coming into a spiritually binding contract, opening a door legally in the spirit that You can't unknowingly walk in. You can't alter identity even just for one night. You guys are going to think I'm crazy, but if I haven't already lost you, you're in for the long run.
00:34:19
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Put your daughter in a mermaid costume and wonder why six months from now she's having nightmares, sleep paralysis, and she's being monitored by a marine spirit. Number two. what Okay. what if you What if you make your own costumes?
00:34:33
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Oh, yeah. Well, heck I think we have to assume that that the wizards and warlocks go to Joanne Fabric and curse the orange and black fabric. There are two, just in case.
00:34:44
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that That could be true. i'm trying to think of I'm trying to think of all the ways to source my parts so that way they're curse-free. Like paper mache masks, right? No one cursed my my local telegram.
00:34:58
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Yeah. I can use the boxes that I get from all the Amazon packages my wife orders to to create something. um So between newspaper and I don't actually get a newspaper, but I could sign up for one um and I'd be actively fighting against the agents of Halloween at that point. And I think that's a cool way to look at funding your local newspaper.
Commercialization of Holidays
00:35:23
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, ah but at the end of the day, is it really worth the risk kind of playing with fire? i They call that, ah you know, that spiritual Roman roulette. Yeah.
00:35:36
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I hate people like this. I hate... You know what I want to start doing? Because she's like, the Bible says... And then she just like but just randomly rips anything. Oh, people who don't know stuff can't do stuff. And then you're like, that's not... What does that even fucking mean?
00:35:53
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like You're just saying... that You just go, what would make what I need to matter sound better? and you i mean so i want to like... um just start reading like Mark Twain books and then just highlight passages that are helpful to bolster opinions that I have and just quote them in all seriousness. Like just going to highlight every use of the N word. Yeah.
00:36:19
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yeah It's like, yeah. I mean, it's Mark Twain. Okay. I mean, but you see that occasionally like on like, you know, social media, it's like a quote and it says like Mark Twain below it And you're like, Cool.
00:36:30
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Like, who cares? I mean, but a quote is only as good as the quote means something to you. But like, who says it kind of matters, you know? ah I get that's why like, people like to quote Jesus and shit. Gandhi's helpful.
00:36:46
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ah Martin Luther King Jr., Mother Teresa, like, Malcolm X. You could find like some people were like, yeah what you yeah, your quote matters because of who you are and how you lived your life. um But it just it's the irrelevancy just ripping verses out to support what you want to as though it has anything to do.
00:37:08
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With what you're talking about. It's so infuriating. I think one of the things. And this is more of just a general complaint. I guess. That has just been driving me nuts.
00:37:20
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Lately thinking about it. It's annoying to me. That like. the The closest thing that we have to culture. in In the United States. it's every single instance of something like this, like any sort of like mass participation event or something, Christmas, Halloween, you name it, um, pride month, whatever it, all of it, it all is centered around us buying junk from big box stores. It's like, that's, that's the only expression of culture that we have anymore.
00:37:53
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It's like, like what is Halloween? Oh, it's when we, it's when we buy a bunch of, plastics full of like phycophosphates that give you cancer. Right. And ah and then we wear them for one night and then throw them away and put them in a landfill.
00:38:09
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Yeah. Like every single thing that we do in this country, it really just comes down to like, well, you go to Target and you spend $80 on plastic garbage that you might as well just go dump in the local river.
00:38:23
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Thank you for saying that, because every time I do, my wife and friends tell me, I'm no fun. one I have to ruin everything. I don't have any joy in life. you know the You're kind of like a true minimalist, too, though. like I'm a hypocrite, because all I do is just buy garbage. like I waste money on garbage constantly, but i don't I don't know, man. i hate like I hate going in like a spirit Halloween.
00:38:50
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I hate it. I hate the way everything looks in there. I hate the way it smells. I hate how disposable like the whole place is. hate how nothing in there has significance beyond like next week, and then it's all just crap.
00:39:03
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you know Yeah, spirit Halloween is a terrible place. it didn't but Nobody understands their business model. where they just take over other stores that emptied and they got in like a short term lease for four months.
00:39:17
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It's great. Like their business model's nuts. It's, it's a longstanding thing. That's actually one of the oldest models because ah you know you've heard about like the Silk Road. That's what the Silk Road was. It was just roadside stands full of, ah you know, plastic Biden masks and, you know, inflatable skeletons for your yard.
00:39:39
Speaker
I don't know what the Silk Road is. Was that a store? No, it was a road that went from like ah Eastern Europe all the way to China, like a trade route.
00:39:50
Speaker
I think that's where it went from. Maybe it was Rome to China. I don't know. And then it was a website where you could buy drugs or hire a hitman or download child pornography.
00:40:01
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Oh, really? Yeah. It's been a lot of fun things. Now it's Spirit Halloween. That's where you get your child pornography.
00:40:10
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you know like i it's like the you know when like pride month comes around like there's you know there's parades and stuff which that's great go out and have fun do do like a thing with your friends or whatever but like so much of the discussion in this country just centers around like where can you buy disposable pride merch You know, at a big box store like Target has a pride section full of like really ugly stuff that nobody really wants, but feels obligated to buy because it's part of the season and blah, blah, blah.
00:40:43
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Right. It's just everything here comes back to like dumping money into stupid disposable things that have no meaning that like. You're going to hand down to your kids. you know You're not going to have them three years from now. It's just disposable trash. It's just capital little trash bullshit capitalism.
00:41:02
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That's why every season, like that's why holidays get invented. like this Every season, not season, there's only four of those, every month. It's like, here's here's a month that you can buy stuff for, decorations for, something to celebrate. like it's and that fall not you It's not that you can't celebrate certain things, but like Valentine's Day is one that irks me the most um because it's just it's obvious horseshit.
00:41:30
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Like buying cards, I do it. Don't get me wrong. I do it. And I write i write thoughtful... ah i'm like ah I'm historically known as a good card giver. I write a lot and I say nice things and I like, but like, but I spend the, you spend $8 to write thoughts that can't be communicated by the stupid fucking four lines are on these stupid fucking cards.
00:41:54
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And they just have like a nice picture on them. Like I thought earlier this week, actually and the past few weeks, i there's this road I drive down on my way to work. And, um,
00:42:06
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it's uh, you're coming down the hill. There's an old farm that you can see at the bottom of that hill. Uh, you know, classic red barn to your right is like, there's just a field and some old fencing. You can occasionally see the cows out and about doing their thing.
00:42:23
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Usually some wild turkeys trying to fuck up my car on the way to work. They just don't care. They just stand in the road. They don't give a shit. Um, They're the only bird on planet fucking earth that doesn't fly away when you come at them 40 miles an hour.
00:42:38
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They just. And they are, they're like hitting a bowling ball. Like, yeah, they're nuts. They're nuts. um But like, and then there's all ah on the lining, the road was just these beautiful wildflowers and absolutely.
00:42:52
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Every day I drive by, I go, what I want to do is get a, I could do it with my camera with my phone camera, but I'm like, i it it made me get why people want to get into photography. I'm like, I want to go out and spend $400 on a camera just to take a picture of that spot every day on my way to work for an entire year and then put it all together.
00:43:13
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Like that, that sounded neat to me. Um, cause I love it. I like every day it's different. Like you go down, you drive down the morning, there's the more, it's like, it's some days it's foggy. Some days it's sunny.
00:43:24
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And someday like you see like the sun rays coming through the haze and like just shining on these like really beautiful wildflowers. And I'm like, I would much rather take a picture of like, what Why don't I? right And I say I would much rather like I can't, like I'm forced into buying some bullshit card.
00:43:42
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I could take a picture. I could go get it printed on cardstock for $0.47 and do the same thing I do with a card all the time. like You could put in that – It's stuff like Valentine's Day and this whole – idea of like at birthdays, wedding, just getting these cards where you're like, how is this a fucking industry?
00:44:09
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Because no one's ever like... I shouldn't say nobody. I know there are people because like you can kind of just tell if you're being judgmental when you look at some people that are buying cards on you know on Mother's Day, for Mother's Day, like I do.
00:44:25
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And you have to slim pickings, right? You're like, oh shit, I can only pick the ugly, stupid ones now. Or the ones that say the lamest shit of all time. yeah It unfolds five times and it's in gold letters saying the dumbest shit you've ever read in your life.
00:44:39
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And it's, it's, and I know, I know that some of the people I've shopped next to are like, yeah, this one communicates my feelings good. And they just signed their name at the bottom of it. And that's insane to me.
00:44:55
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like my family like an industry, i should but my family usually has like, uh, Any cards we give each other usually have like a reference to like um poop or something.
00:45:08
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It's like poop fun. Nice. Which just just as a side note, I don't know why, but I can't get it out of my head. I keep thinking about Fartin' Luther and 95 feces.
00:45:21
Speaker
what the fuck i don't know i have nothing i couldn't think of a bit for it i just uh it's been stuck in my head all day i thought you were saying that that was a thing that's you good job i'm actually really proud of you that's yeah um it's no wonder the priest was mad that but no that's great that's one of those things where you like You come up with the name and you workshop the idea around it. Like you make a, you make a bit, you do a short, right? You do something with that.
00:45:54
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It's just a great name. And you go, how do i make something? How do i build out around this? Yeah. You got to really put yourself in the headspace of Farton Luther. I mean, 95 feces that takes planning. That takes preparation.
00:46:08
Speaker
That takes a lot of storage space. Actually, you're going to have to work at that for at least like three, four months. Right. Assuming you take one dump a day, like a healthy American. Yeah.
00:46:19
Speaker
And unlike how unlike Americans, I'd be willing to bet back then maybe the dumps were more solid. I think a lot of Americans have diarrhea now. And I don't know how you quantify how much diarrhea is one feces.
00:46:33
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, I suppose it depends on if you're like ah standard or metric. Yeah. You know. right I would imagine there's an ounce equivalent, you know. I was just going to say, ounces seems like the way to go. And milliliters too hard to track.
00:46:48
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Right. And it's and it's it's hard to transport, honestly. This is the stupidest conversation. ah Oh, back to spiritual health here. Okay, all right. Let's let's get some advice.
00:47:03
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different The candy that's often found in the same aisles as these costumes has had just as many spells, hexes, and curses put over them, except for these are to wish a death upon your family, to wish sickness, illness, disease, long-term C-A-N-C-E-R upon you and your family. It is to destroy the temple of the Holy Spirit, specifically and strategically. you think that these things don't actually happen, my friend, I hope you can continue living in naivety and not ever face the reality of these things, but trust me, go they're true.
00:47:34
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Number three, all of these demonic decorations that we cover our houses with from. Why did she spell out cancer? It must flag it in the in the ah the algorithm or something like if you say cancer, but like it's kind of like if you say Zionist, like now your video doesn't show up on TikTok.
00:47:53
Speaker
Great, now we're demonetized. Thanks, Casey. Oh, no. Our money. We owe them money. ah You pay us every time you talk about Zionism in a negative light.
00:48:07
Speaker
That's coming, Yeah, imagine so. We should probably start saving up for a that. Pay this. it is Zion tax. They're going to go through 500 hours of this in court one day and we're just going have sit there realizing how embarrassing it was to actually see other people hear us talk about Fartin' Luther in the 95th season. Consider this a monthly subscription. It took us you know about 300 bucks a year to keep these Fartin' Luther jokes up on TikTok.
00:48:45
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top to bottom, our porches, our entryways, our bedrooms. You guys understand the significance of these things? This where you enter your home. This is where you lay your head down and sleep. These are intimate places that you are covering with demonic altars and inviting and allowing unknowingly demonic unclean spirits to come in and infiltrate your home and and giving them a literal welcome sign to doing so. Number four, carving pumpkins and putting demonic faces on your porch step as if it's not also an altar to the demonic.
00:49:12
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Sounds crazy until you realize that the origin of this practice came from people being aware of the spiritual veil being thin, aware of the heightened spirituality around this season and aware of the real demonic spirits behind it. And so they would carve scary faces into pumpkins and paint their abode with them so that it would ward off these evil spirits and completely unknowingly inviting them in by doing so.
00:49:33
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Practice literally came from a truthful spiritual awareness. And whereas they had false gods and they were practicing these things in a way that was completely ineffective, they knew. Number five. So they were duped. They're like, we do this to keep the spirits away, but it actually let them in.
00:49:48
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Yes. And I wonder if that's strictly a pumpkin thing. or like if you like if you make a scary face, is your head a demonic altar?
00:50:00
Speaker
Or is it only if you make a scary face on your porch? Right. What if you just draw a picture a jack-o'-lantern? Oh, man, I don't know. Again, playing with fire. Also, I like your i like your um default to like the slippery slope argument every time something's... I don't know.
00:50:23
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That sounds risky. Um, I, I think that it's also notable her concern for childhood cancer from eating candy that's been hexed.
00:50:35
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Um, like in other things, it wasn't even just that, like we know that cancer is a long-term killer, right? So it'd be harder to quantify Halloween's impact on that. feel like ne Nestle put that hex on, but it seems also wild for her to,
00:50:51
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speak with such assurance about the dangers of eating Halloween candy and its impact on somewhat imminent death or or serious health-related issues without there being any trail of like There's no increase in X, Y, and Z at the, around this time. Like, it's just, you know, interesting how, how, how solidly she believes something that has like, Oh, you don't think so? Well, believe me. Like why?
00:51:26
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Like but you're saying nothing. You're making shit up and you're like, if you don't think that's true, you should believe me. If I walked into every single meeting I've ever been, like, if you, if you don't think that's true, you should.
00:51:38
Speaker
If you want to go on living in in ah in ah you know naivete, then that's up to you, brother. um More power to you. I'm praying for you. If you want to believe I'm not doing my job, well, you should.
00:51:51
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She is a second-generation 10-year practicing white witch, so we can trust her if you remember from earlier in the video. She knows. It is funny because if you don't believe it,
00:52:02
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Her being like, I have 10 years and of experience in something that absolutely has no meaning, impact, or effect on the world around us. So you should believe everything I have to say about this pretend thing that I made up.
00:52:15
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Yeah, like she calls out like pagan cultures for having, like saying they have a spiritual awareness that's legitimate, but they're practicing spirituality in a way that's ineffective and and unproductive.
00:52:30
Speaker
And it's like, is that what is that what you were doing as a white witch? Like, if it didn't work, then why did you continue to do it? Or why delineate, right? Why tell us you were a white witch? Because there's no such thing.
00:52:44
Speaker
Like you're you're saying that all of all spiritual, all of the spiritual stuff is evil. So when you are practicing as a white witch, you're white, which you're petitioning evil spirits to do things. And that it's, it doesn't, you left it because it's not effective because you're intermingling with all of the evil spirits that So why even tell us you're what you just, you were a witch.
00:53:10
Speaker
Why? There's no delineation between good and bad witches, but she's still pushing it. wanted to see if I could find my comment on here. I'm sure it was lengthy in specific references.
00:53:25
Speaker
I don't think they posted it. Oh, she deleted it. It was too good, dude. I got wrecked. I basically said, ah I was, I said,
00:53:36
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I said, if you were a so-called reformed practicing white witch that no longer does it, like, why do you have, you know, demonic piercings? Why are you wearing like, you know, black fishnets over your arms?
00:53:51
Speaker
Is that a little wink and a nod to your former brethren? said, be not deceived, brethren, by those who would tickle your ear with, you know, pleasing messages.
00:54:01
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Once a witch, always a witch. Very good. I really, that's solid work, my friend. I really just want to like dedicate my online presence to spreading chaos.
00:54:13
Speaker
Yeah. You're going to just be in one of those like ah nihilistic Reddit servers where you just try to make everything fall apart.
00:54:24
Speaker
Yeah. I want to be a human hex. Yeah. Hell yeah. i wish I wish cancer and death upon your TikTok page. there isn't There is a, like, ah you know, that that feeling of powerlessness of that you have in your own life is medicated in the same way that, like, Tylenol, like, helps with a headache, right? You're not curing the problem. Unless you're pregnant.
00:54:47
Speaker
Unless you're pregnant. It causes autism. No, but, like, you take ibuprofen when you have a headache, but you don't want to deal with the root cause of it. And I feel like posting online and responding to idiots online is that...
00:55:00
Speaker
you're like this this got me through the next six hours i'll see you again soon yeah that's me on reddit these days i i'm it's ah it's embarrassing to say that like i i go down these like i'm i i'm a i i don't i never liked reddit i didn't want to be a reddit person and then i like the debate religion ex-christian threat uh ah Subreddits are such loathsome trash that I can't help but like engage and just try to point out when people are stupid, which isn't a great. i mean, no one knows who I am, but like, oh God, God.
00:55:40
Speaker
I wonder if I'm doing the same thing that I'm ah mad at other people for doing, or if I am genuinely smarter than most people on Reddit. And I, I hate to say it, but I think I'm actually smarter than most people. You might be Redditor.
00:55:54
Speaker
I know. It's so sad. Yeah. But don't, don't make fun of me too much for it because that's all I have to live for. I do have a very fun Reddit thing that we'll, we'll get to here in a bit.
00:56:06
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was I made a discovery. So, but there's a piece of this that I feel like we should, we should listen to. Cause it, it doesn't, involve I don't live in a neighborhood. I don't have neighbors. I got one neighbor.
00:56:19
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So it doesn't apply to me, but for some of you people, this is a very serious danger you got to take with the utmost caution. If you don't prayer walk around your neighborhood or your home, you should start because witches, warlocks, they walk around your neighborhood.
00:56:33
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They're prepared. They're strategizing. They are walking around the perimeter of your neighborhood to take spiritual territory in preparation for that night. They cast spells. They do rituals. Their covens get together to form more power in a territorial area.
00:56:46
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and for the most part completely unbeknownst to you i know that i'll have witches and other people commenting on this video saying well i don't know what you were in but i'm not doing any of that it's all for light and love girl do you think that when i was in it i thought i was doing anything bad i surely didn't when i was going around these places and finding energy charging points and all of these things i thought it was to help me but what i'm sorry was it it was to destroy the kingdom of god For the most part, nothing that the devil does looks inherently bad, especially when you're in it.
00:57:17
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Proverbs says that the seeing... I so Can you imagine? can you imagine Can you imagine? You would notice. Oh, you don't notice? I'm pretty observant. i I'm not the most observant, but I know when people are wandering around my neighborhood that don't live there.
00:57:34
Speaker
That's something you do when you become 35 years old. That's all you do, actually, is look out the window and wonder, are they supposed to be here? That's it You have nothing. A car can't drive down my street without me being like, I wonder why they're driving down my street right now.
00:57:49
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Like it. Yeah. What do these rituals look like? Because I feel like rituals were made out to be like when we were kids, they would talk about like like Devil's Night.
00:58:01
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And they'd be like, oh, they'll they'll kidnap somebody's dog or cat and they'll like flay it. You know, ah they'll right they'll put it on the wheel and and break it, you know, and light candles or something.
00:58:16
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But I feel like you would probably notice that that wouldn't happen unbeknownst to you if that was going on in your neighborhood, if they were in there taking spiritual territory. Right. Have they just refined what they what's required for ritual? You just is it just the pagan equivalent of a prayer walk?
00:58:35
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That's all they just they just walk down your street like they're like with their dog in like athleisure and but they're actually witches praying against your home.
00:58:47
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Doesn't most magic ah like involve bodily fluids? Like, don't you have to like hack loogies and pee on stuff? i I'm not sure. ah they You'd have to ask someone who who had formerly practiced, I guess. i could I can think of one person's post that you could comment on to ask more specifics, ah but she may ah filter.
00:59:12
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She may screen them. It seems like she wants to. yeah have to yeah Ask in a genuine way. Ask in a genuine way. but maybe she'll Maybe she'll actually respond.
00:59:23
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Yeah, maybe. Did she respond to any comments? ah Yeah, there's some of that in there. It's a lot of like praise Jesus and you know praying for you, blah, blah, blah. blah blah God. Engagement bait. Imagine...
00:59:35
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imagine Imagine believing in nothing so strongly that you can just commit to this lane without feeling like you've just demolished your integrity.
00:59:47
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That's cool. I'm telling you, dude, is it it is the most bland, boring people alive that do this. Like it's a person with no level of expertise in anything that made them themselves like a professor of made up nonsense. Yeah.
01:00:02
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I don't know. She might have got her 10,000 hours in or whatever it is of being a white witch. Does that make you an expert? You would think at some point she'd level up, you know, like white belts where you start, right? How do you get to like blue and blue belt, which yellow belt, which you can't go to black belt, which cause that's black magic.
01:00:23
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Yeah. And then you've done the bad thing. That's the bad thing. Yes. Can't be doing that. Can't you use a little bit of it though? You know, No. You can't be like a gray Jedi. It's not like pepper.
01:00:37
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It's not. It's not like pepper. You can't just use a little bit to make things better. I appreciate you explaining that to me. Thank you. Yeah. You're welcome. So, yeah.
Faith and Commerce Convergence
01:00:50
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So that was one of the cool TikTok things that I found.
01:00:53
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um So the way I found that was I just went on TikTok and I searched Christian Halloween. Mm-hmm. and And I scrolled through a lot of videos.
01:01:05
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I bet you I scrolled through over 100 videos. And I'm not lying when I tell you 75% of them are t-shirt ads.
01:01:17
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I'll give you an example here.
01:01:21
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video about this shirt has over 100,000 And...
01:01:26
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This shirt has sold so much. It is so cute. I had the black on last time with the orange. Jesus took off with that. That was nothing of me.
01:01:38
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That was all of Jesus. And means lot to my heart. I want to thank everybody from the bottom of my heart for purchasing because you don't realize you think it's just a T-shirt. But everybody who purchased one is promoting everybody that's going to see you whenever you wear that shirt is going to see Jesus.
01:01:56
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And that just means so much to me. So I like it so much and I had to get the white. Okay, this is a two X. I just had on some shorts and house shoes. last time um but there's nothing worse christianity and capitalism dude is the worst that's the most satanic thing we've talked about tonight holy fucking shit yeah so obviously can't i i thought maybe she would read off what the t-shirt says but it what it's what it says is in like orange lettering you know it says are you following jesus
01:02:30
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big caption on the top of the video that says, this is not just a t-shirt. It's not. It's also ah evangelistic tool. i just It's insane.
01:02:43
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It's insane to think of how pathetic Christianity is as a whole. like What it is as a marketing campaign, the slogans, the quips. Oh my god. it's It's crazy to think that like this movement, this idea, this religion, through these means is impacting somebody's life in a way where they're like, oh my god.
01:03:11
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I should be a part of that. But for the grace of this t-shirt. like I don't know i don't know why it is i don't know what what way you could package Christianity at this point.
01:03:23
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yeah it's It's just such a such a flimsy, meaningless thing. like the way that This version of it. right This is the most accessible version of it. It's the most American version of it.
01:03:36
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It's the live, laugh, love version of it. It's just like, this is what I am. it's i They're just like bullshit, pointless, lame-ass identity markers. That's all it is. it's It's so vapid and empty.
01:03:49
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And it's all like self-centric. It's all just, what do I get out of this? What does this do for me? It's this. And like and then the delusional... like I mean, I don't believe that that lady feels a single thing when she thinks about somebody like staring at a t-shirt and being like, oh, I read the word Jesus.
01:04:10
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like And she said got 100,000... 100,000... ah hundred thousand These have so many views. They have so many comments. buy i don't think they're being bought. I don't think they're flying off the shelves. I don't think she paid her mortgage or her rent or her back taxes with it.
01:04:27
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um want to be a little bit more All right. this let me Let me see here because there's a link to the stuff like in everyone. Okay. So these are $2.78 each $4.50
01:04:38
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with four fifty shipping The shirts? Yeah. Which is insane. Like, how does that make sense? Because they were stolen. nice That's the only way.
01:04:50
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ah you pay You pay more than that in just tariffs on ah on free shirts from China. There's so much of this, dude. There is so much.
01:05:01
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This video, this is just one of this lady's video about this shirt. yeah She has multiple And I've scrolled through, I scrolled through 70 videos of people, different people promoting this same stupid t-shirt.
01:05:15
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And each one of them has this guy, and it's probably all bots. um And, but the comments are funny to read. Cause like this, this lady's video, okay. ah Lost and Found Ministry says, I see you follow Jesus, but please learn who Yahusha, Yahusha is. You know, Jesus real name.
01:05:36
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what What is she trying to say? What is the word that she's trying to spell? Yeshua? Yeshua. Because she she spelled it Yahusha. Yeah, that's, um i okay. I could miss by could be misspeaking here.
01:05:51
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And I'm only thinking about it because I did watch a Dan McClellan video where a woman kept calling Yeshua Yahushua. And he pointed out that that was just, ah I believe he pointed out that it was like just, oh, yeah that's not how you say that. That's not the correct pronunciation of it.
01:06:11
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And he harped on the person for like, if you're going to resort to the Hebrew words, at least know how to properly pronounce them to sound like you you sound like you don't know anything.
01:06:23
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um And so that was the first time I heard someone say Yahushua. ah But my understanding is that the transliteration of it is like, is Yeshua. Yeah. Please learn who Yeshua is. You know, Jesus real name and thank thank about it.
01:06:40
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Would your Jesus and his followers, not his Christians, his followers? Do you think he celebrated Halloween or would have celebrated Halloween? JS, a bunch of emojis.
01:06:53
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That's I'm just that's a literal quote. That's an insane question. T-shirt lady says, thank you for your comment. In my life, Halloween is just where kids dress up and get candy. I think it is important to promote Jesus in all you do.
01:07:09
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Okay. So her kids only dress up as Jesus for Halloween? I hope so. Same lady comments back. Yes, sis, we do need to seek Jesus, a.k.a. Yeshua.
01:07:21
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I would want to be called by my correct name, no matter their language was JS. Oh, by the way, it is a cute shirt, but I could still never wear that jaw. That's me. Okay. Come at me. LOL.
01:07:35
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I'm just trying to break generational curses on my family by not celebrating all those pagan holidays that it is that deep. Everything is that deep. It does matter. That's why they take such huge measures to deceive us. Come out of her.
01:07:52
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Oh my God. That's hard to read. Uh, I think the end of it, I think um my guess is that they were transcribing that um with voice to text. And that last part was because he didn't turn off his porn video in time.
01:08:05
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Yeah. Well, that was a lady, so. Oh. But maybe. Well, like who knows? I mean, shes she. Women watch porn too, Casey. Come on.
01:08:16
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um I ran across over that all these like comments about Jesus' name, Yeshua, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. Who cares? this is It's not. like That's God. I want to say it's God, Hebrew, Yeshua, Jesus, different.
01:08:31
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um No, Yahweh. Sorry. What am I saying? Yahweh is God. je i don't know. how i Whatever. I'm walking all that back. I don't know shit. I just know it's annoying when Christians talk about how important it is to pronounce things a a certain way and make these claims that like this name is super important. like Jesus was a common name.
01:08:55
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Very common name. That's why it makes it really hard to find anything about the historical Jesus, where they were buried, whatever. like You can't because commoner person, commoner name.
01:09:07
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ah But that is something that people get fixated on. And I ran across this Reddit post today and it just, your thing got me thinking about it and says, to all Christians, it's God.
01:09:21
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capital G, not God, lowercase g. The G is capital. And this person's pretty serious, pretty mad. ah Okay.
01:09:32
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They say, ah I have seen far too many Christians on this sub forgetting to capitalize the G in God. Remember, God is not just a title.
01:09:43
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It is also his name. He is the only God. Therefore, he is not a God or God, lowercase g. He is God, capital G. I just wanted to put a friendly reminder out there for everyone, just as you might find it disrespectful if someone spelled your name wrong with a lowercase letter.
01:10:05
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It's not accidentally disrespect God either, okay? That seems like something the creator of all of of everything in existence would be upset about.
01:10:16
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Yeah, I mean, capital letters have always been very important to God. I hate that. Lowercase g. Like, religion is such a perfect spot for people to do that crap where they just pick. It's like it's a dominance play. You pick one arbitrary thing and you make it the most important thing. You scold people for it as if it's like, I can't believe that you didn't know this already. I knew it.
01:10:39
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Because I'm, you know, I'm really tuned in It's such an annoying thing to do. And it it happens in like all different, sort all sorts of different places. But like, what a weird thing to pick out. You commented on this lady's hacky like commercial.
01:10:53
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Like you should be calling him Yeshua. that That's you deciding that you're going to be the kid who wears orange in youth group. It's just, you're just doing something to make your mark.
01:11:04
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Like, God is their name. got name It's like, big the yeah, what are you fucking talking about, dude? Like, God is an English word. Yeah. Well, it's good enough for the Apostle Paul. It's good enough for me.
01:11:18
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it's sometimes you read it and you go am i being trolled if i did if so it's effective it is like oh somebody wrote that with the intention of knowing that it was so stupid and hilarious to make people mad about but then they the op does respond to things so ah you know it is typically if op is responding and is it it's somewhat genuine Okay, well, i'll do one more commercial here because this lady has a ton of videos all about the same ugly necklace that she wears.
01:11:53
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It's like it's a rectangle with a cross in it, and it has like this really ugly. She calls it a paperclip chain. It looks like paperclips like the chain that it's on.
01:12:05
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because you just If you just search Christian Halloween, you'll find this crap because it's what's on there. but I don't want my algorithm to be destroyed like yours is, so I might not.
01:12:17
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Okay, here we go. I'm shook. Like, to my core, shook. They all talk the same. I got this necklace the beginning of April. Yeah. by what I thought was an accident.
01:12:31
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And of course it wasn't. I mean, I just found it, thought it was beautiful, wanted it, loved it, told y'all about it. Since then, every video I've made in regards to this necklace has popped off.
01:12:43
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If I have come close to going viral on any video, it's been because of this necklace. This necklace is the star. One of my videos has almost a million views. It is of eternal significance. One of them has over 600,000 views. Trinket.
01:12:56
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And now look, don't get me wrong. There are people on this app that are, they're like no you know um a million views constantly. Like they're viral. They are the definition of viral. Okay, I get it. But I checked this morning and almost 3,500 necklaces have been sold from my links.
01:13:14
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Have been purchased from my links. That means... Between all the videos that I've made from the beginning of April until today, that includes today because i've already sold some today, almost 3,500 people have wanted to spread the same message that I spread, I hope.
01:13:32
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Fuck you. This is literally what has put my TikTok on the map. I am forever grateful to everybody. and if there is This is what's horseshit, dude.
01:13:44
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Oh, I just happened to buy this necklace and I just told people that I could buy it and then they bought them all from my links and now I have a massive payday. means you're a paid sponsor, you fucking hack.
01:13:55
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You're not, you didn't just show people where they could buy it. You're like, people bought it from the link in my page, which means like your, Oh my God. All right. Can you see that?
01:14:06
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Is that, what the fuck is that? It's like a cross on a rectangle. Yup. And then there's like a goofy, like paperclip chain. Mm-hmm. She sold 3,500 of these supposedly.
01:14:17
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How much do you think this necklace costs? I'm going to go with 975. Oh, close. It's like $12. I forgot about tariffs. 1279 with free shipping. it's like twelve dollars ah i forgot about tariffs twelve seventy nine with ah free shipping What's the average percent kickback on a, um, like an Instagram.
01:14:43
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what What do you think? It's $12. What could it possibly be? How much profit could there be in this like goofy little, like quarter machine necklace? I mean, right like I imagine there's some, if you but it's like kickback with, when you think of all the people selling like Hawking product on Instagram, even if it's a sponsored link, right? Like,
01:15:05
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You're probably getting you're getting a fraction of a percent, right? They're not going to give 1% to every single person. I mean, maybe maybe a couple percent to every single person who sells an X. No chance it's over three, right?
01:15:19
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No chance? No. I can't imagine. I wouldn't think. So 1%. Let's just go... like Maybe Google can tell us. She she doesn't make more than $2 off of each of those necklaces.
01:15:31
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Probably less than that. i would I was going to say maybe 50 cents. Yeah, that's ah that's a possibility. it just... It's so absurd, like the assigning of like, like spiritual significance to this like junkie necklace that you bought.
01:15:48
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And then you look at the the comments on it and it's it's hilarious because it's like one, it's a whole bunch of like other ladies who are these like.
01:16:00
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drop shipping sales hacks on, on that's why there's so many videos of the exact same. eye Like there's a whole, there's a million videos of this exact same necklace with different people promoting it and stuff.
01:16:13
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But, it's a lot of those people that are like beautiful necklace. My skin gets so irritated if it's not sterling silver. Uh, I get so many compliments on it. That's not sterling silver.
01:16:26
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It's definitely not. No. yeah Um, according to AI, which I'm sorry for searching on Google and having a good AI and significantly increasing the cost of somebody's electric bill this month. I do apologize for that, but they're the commission rate,
01:16:43
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ah different products and affiliate programs offer different commission rates. typically between five and 30% per sale, which means if the average is five to 30, I'm going to go with this lady's getting maybe two and a half because she's a nothing person selling a nothing product that will literally let anybody do it. Like you you go to 30%, right? You're probably working with a celebrity who's guaranteed money.
01:17:11
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Like you're guaranteed sales if c Selena Gomez is hawking some necklace, right? Right. This lady bottom of the barrel, it's got to be less than five.
01:17:22
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And she sold 3,500 of these stupid things. And that's it. Like that's the peak of her Instagram hawk shit career. That's it. It's never getting better.
01:17:33
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This was her moment. She gets to make some videos about it and it's over. She has to go back to taking care of her children and resenting them for ruining her life, preventing them from making, letting her do great things.
Capitalism's Influence on Personal Dreams
01:17:45
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Or her husband. ah Because she probably chose to stay home and raise the kids. And, you know, that's a sacrifice women have and been unfairly pushed into. um And I can understand why, you know, she might feel the way she does.
01:18:00
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I'm not trying to be too hard on her. I have empathy. But capitalism stole your dream too, lady. I'm sorry. Capitalism is here to steal all our dreams and make us try to hawk shit online.
01:18:12
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She's having a great time with it. That's yeah, it's she cries as soon as she's done recording. The amount of like it's goofy motivational content that she probably takes in to keep going like that is that I don't know. It's it's probably staggering.
01:18:30
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It. would have to be so like, what's the, ah what's the online positive pep talk equivalent of cocaine? Like it's a lot. You have to do so much of it. Gary V quotes.
01:18:49
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Empathy is delicious. Write that down.
01:18:54
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it's Okay. So you want to hear my, my Reddit find? Yeah.
Christian Nudism and Social Norms
01:18:58
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You brought some heat tonight. you you you know I'm going to save the things I brought. i got a real nose for the stupid.
01:19:05
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i didn't I didn't have a lot. um I'll save it for next time. got some people struggling with their Christian dating life. Ooh. But, you know.
01:19:17
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Well, this is similar. Reddit's not going anywhere. You brought some heat tonight. I'm going to trust the process, and we'll we'll close with your Reddit find. Well, I found a kind of an unconventional Christian server.
01:19:31
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um This is r slash Christian nudists. Oh, wow. You found my secret account. Yeah. i saw all the weird questions you asked about what to do if you're aroused and all that, you know, at the barbecue.
01:19:45
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Yeah. It's there. There's, there's so many you could pick from here, but it's a lot of just like, I really want to find other people who love nudity as much as me, but are trying to make it sexual. I mean, i am a Christian after all.
01:20:03
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Yeah. Cause that that's always prevented people from doing heinous sexual acts.
01:20:10
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I feel like Christian nudism is, is really just desperation for seeing a naked person in real life. I don't, I don't buy Christian, Christian college dorm life is what it is. It's just, we have to vent all these, like all this, like hormone stank somewhere.
01:20:31
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It's people who try it for a week so they can see a pair of tits for real and then and then have to like question whether or not maybe they're actually gay a little bit because they saw penises without thinking that they wanted to.
01:20:46
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Yeah, I feel like if you're that pent up, I mean, you anything's going to be... Like, all news is good news at that point. So ah one post stuck out to me, though, that I felt it was it was inviting an interesting question here. OK, yeah, this is from the user one happy nudist.
01:21:06
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And the title says thou shalt not make idol any idols and bow down and worship them. As much as I prefer to be nude and do not like to wear clothes because it's uncomfortable, as much as I enjoy home and or social nudity,
01:21:21
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And so on, and so on. And I'm sure most of us feel this way, but it had me wondering, wondering are we idolizing nudity? Are we preferring our nudity over our duty to God?
01:21:34
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For as much as I see on this site and the other nudist friends subreddit, and I'm sure there are many Christians on those sites, Sharing pics is good and all, as long as it's not pornography with a tent with intent to arouse.
01:21:47
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Sharing our views on nudity is also fine. But are we Christian and nudist in danger of making our nudity our God and worshiping our own beliefs about our views? Great question.
01:21:59
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I do appreciate his point about the only thing that makes something ah sexual in its nature is an explicit intent to arouse.
01:22:10
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Right. like where how do you Like, oh, I didn't intend to make you horny. but if I mean, the amount thing like the amount of things you don't intend to do that have those consequences, aren't you judged by the consequences of your actions, not by the intent of your heart?
01:22:28
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I don't know. maybe should be. Like, if you if you drop your towel in the YMCA bathroom so you can stretch your hamstrings in front of a bunch of young boys, like... I don't know what your intent is, but I'm not i'm not sure I care. just don't want to see your old saggy balls.
01:22:45
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If you and decided to, if we stood side by side, got together, took a picture, full nude, completely flaccid, unshaved, unkempt pubes, all of that, just like just our bodies the way the good Lord intended it to do.
01:23:01
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I would argue that that would be for the intent of being funny and not the intent to arouse. And I would guarantee that nobody anywhere ever would be aroused and therefore we would be sinless.
01:23:15
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But I don't, I would have to see that. I would have to see this, this person's pictures. I mean, if you If you trim your pubes, could you not argue that you're your intent is to make someone more attracted to the look of your privates?
01:23:33
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Therefore, maybe accidentally crossing over into sin by making somebody aroused just by having a nice haircut? This is real jordans Jordan Peterson point that you're making here.
01:23:47
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Well, the real Jordan is through- Should women wear makeup in the workplace? If all makeup is intent to arouse, then should women be allowed to wear makeup in the workplace? I'm just asking the question. I'm just asking um'm just asking basic good questions.
01:24:01
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I would rather die than not ask this question. And he very well might. he Where's my barbiturates? And what is makeup? What is the workplace?
01:24:12
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What is a woman? Well, someone answered what is a woman for us already. But um I do feel like your idea that your your scenario there kind of plays into that that business idea I pitched you the other day. Yeah. Which one?
01:24:27
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trying to I was trying to remember it, but it was. Oh, God. You and I leave our we leave our wives. Yeah, we we come out as gay and HIV positive.
01:24:38
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Yeah. on the eve of announcing the start of our, our, our, like a Ben and Jerry's type company, but we're going to make deli meats. And our first product is going to be a a, a blood sausage that we will call the clot dog.
01:24:57
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ah You have, i i you have all of your ideas are the makings of a potentially great sketch in sketch in a sketch comedy show.
01:25:12
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yeah i I don't know. I don't know how to, i wouldn't know how to make it fully operational, but like that just feels like a thing. Like I want to, I just, I want to see what would happen if you were able to make, I just had full creative control as the ideas man for a TV show.
01:25:30
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That's the only thing I want to see before I die. And it's just it's just you reading off a list of things that weirdly specific texts you've sent your friends over the years. And that's it. It's just me. I'm just Gary Busey being like, hey, what about this?
01:25:52
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Okay, well, that was paragraph one. So he moves on to say... yeah As I was studying about what worship really is and the definition of worship, it got me thinking about what we worship other than God.
01:26:05
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Some worship their jobs, political parties, actors, which is such a Christian thing to say. Like, some people worship actors. Nobody worships actors, you dummy.
01:26:16
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Yeah, nobody. ideologyies Ideologies... ah Fitnesses and sports. Fitness is plural, by the way. <unk> Etc. How about nudism? Do we also fall into that category?
01:26:29
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Do we promote nudism over Christian views? IMO? Nothing wrong with being nude when appropriate. I see often people promote nudists as a lifestyle, being free, natural right, and so on, even when they say it's a God-given right.
01:26:44
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When Christians do this, are we making an idol of it? As Christians, shouldn't we promote God first in everything? It's fine to be a nudist, but shouldn't there be secondary to being a Christian?
01:26:56
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ah I think he raised a lot of the same questions. I think he raised a lot of the same questions in the second paragraph that he did the first. And he goes on to do that in the third and fourth paragraph as well. That's so many paragraphs.
01:27:08
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yeah The amount of times I've clicked on a Reddit post and been like, oh, that person wrote way too much. Not engaging. I'm not going to read. this so late I'm not reading like two full Word document pages on like your opinions on something you have absolutely no credentials to have an opinion on.
01:27:30
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Yeah, it's a it's ah it's often composed, like if you see multiple paragraphs, it's often composed in like a um if Cormac McCarthy had a traumatic brain injury, so there's like no punctuation or or capitalization either. So you're just left to kind of guess at sentence structure and whether or not things are supposed to be a question or a statement.
01:27:54
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, even just the the lack of commas, like when people like ah nothing is more difficult to read than a run on sentence. And I remember getting critiqued as a young lad on my writing, like, oh, yeah it be that little note.
01:28:12
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This is a run on sentence. And I'd read it and reread it and be like, that seems fine. I don't know what the problem is. um And then you realize that you are an idiot and nobody knows what you're talking about. If you cannot use a fucking comma.
Identity, Values, and Politics
01:28:27
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I think this guy, if if this was about anything other than nudism, I think he actually has like a pretty valid argument here.
01:28:37
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And you could apply this to a lot of other things that that the Christian community seems to like really put on a pedestal. but Charlie Cook. Last one here is like, have you noticed this?
01:28:49
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Is it I'm a nudist and Christian or is it I'm a Christian who practiced the biblical teaching of Christ and its value? Which is more important to us? Would we rather suffer to wear clothing all the time and never be nude as long as we could worship our creator?
01:29:03
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I seem to hear from nudists about body positivity, rights to be nude, nudism as a lifestyle, how important nudism is to our well-being. It seems to be more stuck on their own values or their own views of being nude and not on Christ.
01:29:18
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Do we follow the same trap? And if you replaced nudism with Game of Thrones, ah with, the you know, ah like conservative politics, yeah you know, then you have a point.
01:29:34
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If you replaced it with, ah you know, i'm ah I'm a Harley guy and everything I do has to be, I have to scream in your face that like I ride motorcycles. That just makes you a person that no one wants to spend time with.
01:29:49
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But it's not like immoral. I feel like it i feel like the delineation is that like it it's guiding your life into way. It's guiding your life in a way that has...
01:30:03
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consequences or that, that, that are misaligned with what you, with your stated values. Right. Like, and so I don't know, like what this Christian nationalism shit that's so big now. And like, like i think you can go into most evangelical churches and the problem that we had and have with the whole Trump era horse shit is that like,
01:30:28
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We all were very quick to realize and react to like that their love for Trump went against their stated values. um And that's when I get the most annoyed.
01:30:43
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But there are plenty of quote unquote. I don't even need to say quote unquote. If you say you're a Christian church then and you use the Bible and you make it work the way you want it to, then you get to you if you have the privilege of just calling yourself whatever the fuck you want to call yourself. Unless your pastor's a woman, right?
01:31:00
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Right. And then, of course, then you are probably probably a white witch if I...
01:31:08
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But like it's it's when it goes – like I think that like when you watch these like Christian nationalist churches that exist to promote Christian nationalism and the pastor has always been saying these bullshit, horseshit things.
01:31:22
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Like um what's his name? ah Hegseth's pastor is all up. Like people are giving – People are just kind of blowing up his, up he did a podcast. He's got a podcast where he goes off on how like the, the actual biblical, the biblical stance on slavery is that it's actually okay.
01:31:44
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And ah the i argument to make The irony is he's not wrong. Like i you're not going to find anything in the Bible. That's like inherently anti-slavery when it's addressing the topic of slavery directly.
01:31:57
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Obviously abolitionists, uh, the, the, their uphill battle was against Christians who use the Bible to support slavery. Uh, and then abolitionists use it to say like, yeah, but they're here. are These principles in the Bible that we think, um, are more salient than this regressive idea of people owning other people.
01:32:19
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Um, But you just like, I'm going down a rabbit trail now, so I'm trying to get back to my original point, which I don't entirely remember what it was, but going back to Hegseth's pastor. Oh, stated values.
01:32:30
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Like, everyone's like, can you believe it? Can you believe Hegseth's pastor? it's Yes, I can. Of course I can. Everything about Hegseth's values seems to align with a guy who would say this shit.
01:32:43
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Like I'm not, I'm not shocked anymore by people who say these things. Like they, now they can say it and feel more empowered to say it. But like, I'm more bothered when the evangelicals that I knew who talked about,
01:32:57
Speaker
how to live your life and conduct yourself in the world, go against their principles to support something that's insane. And now they've been dragged into that muck. And I think they, I think they have new values and new principles that I don't, that I don't respect or appreciate. um But I think that, I think it was the idea, like they're not laying their values or principles lead anymore.
01:33:24
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Yeah. and I mean, some of this isn't even necessarily about values and principles. It's about identity. it's so it's the It's the image you project to people. It's like the version of yourself that you want to advertise to those around you.
01:33:38
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And it's ah it's a thing that everybody does. it's It's part of tribalism. But I think what's and what's so bizarre about like tribalism in this country is that, like you know,
01:33:50
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In past circumstances, like tribalism was a, it was a survival mechanism, right? You, you group up with people like you and you have a community and you take care of each other. You look out for each other. You band together for like mutual benefit.
01:34:05
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But so little of this has anything to do with that. It's not community. It's just like, it's just like vapid, empty identity markers.
01:34:16
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It's almost like the end goal is making your children hate you It's like you set out to do that. It's crazy. And I think that's so much like that's where the, that's the validity in what this guy is saying is that like, like what's more important if, if I'm meeting you for the first time and, and I ask you to tell me about yourself, right?
01:34:38
Speaker
What am I going to learn first about you? Because that's obviously the part of your identity that's most important. And very seldom do I think that that's going include. I'm a Christian and my goal is to be christ-like in everything i do and this and that and the other and that's why i lead my wife the way that i do and i'm probably more likely to hear that you're to the caveats of christlikeness they're like and but what it means to be christ-like and then and they explain something stupid sure i think what it in the vast majority of cases i and and kind of the complaint that we've
01:35:14
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voiced a thousand times on this show is that like so many people like I'm, I'm way more likely to learn that you're like a staunch conservative, whatever that means now, then i then I am to learn that you're a Christian and that you take your faith seriously.
01:35:31
Speaker
Because you don't. Because you don't. Because it doesn't really mean that much to you. and you And you feel an obligation to say the words, God comes first in my life, and I put Christ before everything. All glory to God. God's number one. My wife's number two. My kid's number three. All all that crap.
Nudism, Society, and Family Concerns
01:35:48
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It's all out the window. It's all garbage. If like the, the, the, the most important thing for you to project to the people around you is these like vapid, empty mark identity markers that, that you have.
01:36:02
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And like, yes, you can be that way, but like, I'm not going to take your spiritual stance seriously. If that's the case, like, I'm not going to buy the idea that it's before everything for you. Right. If like, this is what you project to the world first and foremost above everything.
01:36:20
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Or that's entirely what faith has always been to those people. Like faith is just that. It's just the vehicle by which you validate your feelings. And that's it.
01:36:31
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I mean, I think that is it for a lot of people. I don't think there's more to it than that. And then you can see by the propaganda that people it and allow themselves to like receive like daily. And you just, I don't,
01:36:48
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I'm not and going back to my point about like when you're when you're the things you're telling me or the things that you're supporting go against with the value your previously stated values being frustrating.
01:37:03
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mike Nudism? Who fucking cares? Like yeah the amount of respect I have for someone who can sit in a room full of naked people and not be weird about it is pretty fucking cool. like You are a cool person.
01:37:16
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If you're actually there and your dick is soft and you're just playing tennis or watching a scary movie or playing checker, like you're just chilling and you're like, I just feel better like this.
01:37:30
Speaker
you're You're a stronger person than most. And you should probably you should probably be one of our politicians more than someone who's repressing their love of children under the age of 14. I mean... That being said, I don't like you.
01:37:47
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I personally don't want to spend time with naked people in a non-sexual way. um let's That's a fun idea. How long... If you're hanging out in a group, right?
01:38:01
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Someone walks in and they go, guys, I'm just going to be fully naked. How long do you stay? I mean, is are you like, I'm not doing this at all? or Or do you try to act normal, but you're just now now you're out real fast. It's not even nudity.
01:38:16
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It's that don't trust anybody who does that. don't trust all. it's not even the nudity it's that i don't trust anybody who does i don't trust you at all it's It's like, I could, i could, I could like glance at your dong and it wouldn't mean anything to me. Like, that's fine. It's a dong. It's, it's a, it's a, it's a skin flap.
01:38:37
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I don't really care. I don't trust you as a person. you job okay all But do nudists like nude. If there's some nudists out there, maybe our our our boy Luke Wilson can shed some light on this for us. He's the only nudist I like.
01:38:57
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But would you spend time with him if he was naked and you were not? I don't know. I feel like nothing would make me more uncomfortable than seeing Luke and his, you know, 10 out of 10 friends all naked. I know, dude. ah That'd be hard.
01:39:13
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That would be really tough. It'd just be, I don't have the self-confidence for that. I think that's the other thing about it too is like, I don't know if it's just, if this is something that's ingrained in you as an individual or if it's related to an upbringing or your own personal comfort level.
01:39:32
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I could not hang out in a room with naked people and not keep losing eye contact. k I just like, Oh, look, look at their dick. Oh shoot. Look at the, like, I would just, it would just always be like, I'd like,
01:39:47
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It would look like my eyes were ping pong balls in a fucking Olympic level match. It's like a welding arc. You know you're not supposed to stare at it, but you can't help yourself. Exactly.
01:40:00
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It's crazy. I don't know how you can do it. so do do i mean I'm guessing nudists literally just hang out nude and they're not doing that. and And they know they they pick out the people who are there for the weird reasons.
01:40:13
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Like I, if I went just to check it out, they'd be like, you have to leave immediately. You're making us all uncomfortable with your fucking wide awake, rapid eye movement. Yeah. And how is it that people do nudism as a family?
01:40:30
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That, you actually should all be thrown in prison. Let's um be clear. Here's another one that says, ah are other people on this sub part of Christian nudist churches or groups?
01:40:41
Speaker
Me, my wife, and our kids are members of the Lake Como Garden of Eden Church in Florida. There don't seem to be many nudist churches or groups for Christian nudists out there, so my wife and I are just curious if other people ah belong to similar churches or groups.
01:40:55
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and then What? You walk around naked with your kids? The kids can't be naked. That has to be an immediate crime. I honestly, I've always had my issues with the death penalty, but they ah they're all quelled just by this topic.
01:41:12
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How did I miss this? ah Somebody comments and says, no, I haven't. There's one in Virginia, Central Virginia. Congregation worships nude. It provides a link and it says, i think he leans a bit on the arrogant side, but I digress. I might visit someday. Not sure.
01:41:29
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What is this website?
01:41:34
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Oh, good God. It's a Virginia man naked in the pulpit. No way, dude. It is indeed. That's our first, that's going to be our first like man on the street documentary.
01:41:49
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He, he looks like, he looks like John Goodman's flunky brother. Yeah.
01:41:57
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About an hour's drive south of Richmond, there's a small congregation that doesn't care about quote-unquote material things. They worship the same way we were all brought into this world. naked.
01:42:07
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Even in February, when temperatures can average in the 20s, members show up in various forms, some fully clothed, others topless, many still completely nude. Pastor Alan Parker says it's not about the clothes or lack thereof.
01:42:21
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He says it's about bearing his soul to Christ and leading his flock down that path of righteousness no matter what they're wearing. Oh my God, he's sexually abusing so many people. Yeah.
01:42:32
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Yeah, that's a real just as I am sort of attitude. that's like ah That's such a creepy way to like, this this is just what God wanted for us. I'm just looking, just is there mention of kids?
01:42:44
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How can there be? That can't That to be a crime. It has to be a crime. if If they had kids naked in those things, there would probably be they'd probably be one to every town.
01:42:58
Speaker
I've been watching a lot of To Catch a Predator lately, and I'm concerned at how many of them there are Yeah. Oh, my God.
01:43:09
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Well, nice. Yeah. So that's interesting. Christian nudist. This took some very bizarre turns. Yeah. We're all over the map today.
01:43:20
Speaker
It's all all sorted together, but all very different. Yeah. i You know what I was looking for? I was tried i i originally so was looking for a Christian NoFap group.
Humor in Serious Contexts
01:43:32
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I figured that had to have some funny posts in it, but... Yeah, I'm sure... I mean, it's funny because they're all taking themselves so seriously. The best ones would be the ones where they, like, confess their sin.
01:43:43
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and That would be filled with the funniest shit ever. Yeah. It's important that you describe the video in detail. they're like they they They feel like it's a sin to look at real people because it's it's children of... It's God's children participating in evil, sinful acts, so they gravitated towards...
01:44:02
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anime porn documentaries it's that or anime because it's not real people and it's technically not a sin but you know i still did lust it's like it's it's weird shit it's weird shit dude yep as we've as we've been saying for the past fucking half a decade here is that, uh, you can only repress so much before it's like ah fucking pressure cooker bomb.
01:44:29
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It's just, that's it. It's it, it eventually explodes without the release. And it's going to be weird. It's going to be weird. It's a bunch of screws and nails in a pressure cooker.
01:44:41
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Yeah, folks, uh, find a way. to, uh, to, to, to vent yourself in a, in a, in a way that's not destructive or annoying to other people. Don't make other people deal with your, uh, proclivities.
01:44:57
Speaker
Right. Like if you're in community college and you're in the lounge and there's people sitting next to you at the computers that are against the back wall don't jerk your dick in camo pants to hentai don't do it because that changed my life there was that that was a moment in my life where i saw that and it ah things were different so don't do that to other people when they asked you to leave the computer lab at liberty no this was in my community college
01:45:29
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Oh, I remember this story. Yeah. I'm like, this dude's been itching his thigh for like five minutes. And then I realized he was like, he was index finger and thumb and his chub and his camo pants while, uh, looking at some hentai porn.
01:45:45
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It was all like rule 34 Pokemon stuff or something. dude It was nuts. It was nuts. One of them, I think was holding a giant chainsaw. As said before,
01:45:58
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um Many in the ex-evangelical community are of the opinion that um shame has no part in sexuality. And we here at Growing Up Christian do not subscribe to that theory. We think that shame, to an extent, is a positive thing, and it keeps you from being a gross, menacing sex pest.
01:46:20
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Yes. so So hold on to a little bit of shame. Be a little afraid to show people your penis. Please. it's It's healthy to feel at the back, to to to reserve a feeling at the back of your mind that you're kind of icky.
01:46:36
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Yeah. It's good for you. It's good for everybody around you. All
01:46:42
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all right, folks. Thanks for listening. We will see you next time.