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Rehabilitation or Human Rights - Americas' Justice System - Jesse McFadden
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In this episode, Lisa is telling us the current events around the horrific story unfolding with regards to Jessee McFadden and his victims. When looking into this, it is hard not to reflect back on our Justice System in America and ask - what is the end result they are wanting? Is it Rehabilitation or just Human Rights, or something else all together.
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Transcript
Opening and Surgery Banter
00:00:00
Speaker
Well, hello all, and thanks for tuning in to another episode of Twisted Tales with Faith. And Lisa. And we're here. We are here. I have to have surgery tomorrow. Lisa does have to have surgery, so good vibes and thoughts should go to her at 8.30 a.m. I don't know what time zone we're in, so Tennessee time. Tennessee time. That's all I got, dude. I'm not helping you, bro. I am not helping you. It's just because I called you dumb a minute ago. That's pretty true.
00:00:29
Speaker
Dang it. I'm so dumb. We're Tennessee time. It works. It works. I don't need to know their time zone. Well, I mean, Tennessee's in the mountains, so... No, I just need to know the time zone I'm in. My watch and phone autocorrect when I go to other regions. Ha ha!
00:00:44
Speaker
Anyway, it's not my night to talk, so Lisa, we don't have any great stories or what not to tell today, so. No, but in the morning though, after my surgery is over, his faith is so kindly decided to talk. If she says crappy things and weird things on morphine, you bet your butt I'm gonna record it on a video, and I'm gonna post it here, widened everywhere. Personal, professional, all of our spaces, there will be things.
00:01:13
Speaker
So let's hope fingers crossed to our six listeners. I need you to remind me when I am coherent enough to send a mass text to the people that I work with and tell them that my balls hurt. Guys, this is what I this is this is what I put up with a lot. I know check it out, though. It's actually kind of funny because I'm not really telling anybody like why I'm having surgery because it's not their business. Right. Yeah. And so now they're all like we know exactly what it is. You're getting neutered.
00:01:43
Speaker
They're like, did they really say that? No, they're like, they said, they said, oh, you're becoming a tranny, aren't you? Like, which is fine if that's your call. No, it's just funny because you have to jump there, right? Why are you being so secretive? Why are you not telling anybody? Especially after you got kicked out of the company group chat the other day for inappropriate comments and memes.
00:02:03
Speaker
That's pretty funny. But they're like, you're going to get your balls chopped off, aren't you? So they're saying you're a man now.
Setting the Stage for a News Story
00:02:11
Speaker
And then I was, yeah, they're saying I'm a man now. I like how I knew you were coming. I know, that was pretty amazing. Patrick's still on my mind. Patrick's gone. All right, well, that was all my witty banter. Okay, I'm out.
00:02:24
Speaker
Lisa's going to regale us with her. Wonderful story tonight. Her storytelling abilities. Yeah. All right, Faith. So every time, every time we hop into the car and have this podcast, right, we always end up in the Wayback Machine. Well, when I tell stories, because I like the Wayback, we've been pretty recent, though, recently. I was going to say, even in mine, like, we like to pretend it wasn't the Wayback Machine, but mine are usually 70s, 80s, 90s, like, you know. Which is like 50 years ago, unfortunately. Yeah, it's kind of, it's pretty way back there. But anyway,
00:02:54
Speaker
So tonight I decided that I was going to do something that happened very, very recently. Very, very recently? Very, very recently. How recent is that? Because if you say like 2001, I'm like, yeah, that was 10 years ago. Why don't you just stop talking for once in your life and let me finish? That doesn't sound like a great plan. That does not sound like a great plan. Okay. All right. Continue.
Oklahoma Case Introduction
00:03:15
Speaker
So I'm sure that pretty much as soon as I get off on this topic, you're going to know exactly.
00:03:19
Speaker
Maybe, maybe not. But I really think this is something that needs to be discussed. So I'm going to discuss it. Discuss away. All right. On May 3rd, 2023. Oh. The bodies of seven people were found in Oklahoma. May 3rd. That was this month. I had to look at my. That was just a couple weeks ago, hon. Well, today's the 16th. It was 13 days ago. Yeah. Which is almost two weeks, but not quite. Which would be a couple.
00:03:46
Speaker
No, a couple would be more than two, like two or more. It's been one week and six days, which is not two, four weeks. A few. A few are a couple. A couple is more than one. A couple is two. Are we really going to have this conversation? We are one day short of a two week period. Oh my God. A week and six days. I quit you. This is why you got in trouble with the hummus. You don't know definitions. We're going to have this debate later. We are going to have this debate later. All right.
00:04:12
Speaker
I'm leaving you with Brian later. So I'm gonna say Larry. Who's Larry? I don't know. I don't know Larry. Neither do I. Can I finish? Sure. Okay. It's like I said, seven bodies found in Oklahoma. Ivy Webster, 14. Brittany Brewer, 16. Holly McFadden, 34. Riley Allen, 17. Michael Mayo, 15. Tiffany Guess, 13. And Jesse McFadden, 39.
00:04:41
Speaker
a convicted sex offender. That is a wide range of. So there was a sex offender, a bunch of children and one other adult. So Rachel, I'm sorry, Holly was his wife, his wife, his wife, Jesse McFadden, the convicted sex offender. Gotcha. Gotcha.
00:05:02
Speaker
Uh, let's see. Ivy Webster was a friend. Brittany Brewer was a friend and the other three, the other children that were there, they were, they were Holly McFadden's children. Okay. So the sex offender, his wife, their children and their children's friends. I'm back on board. Okay. So now pretty clearly, you know, it's not going to take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened. Okay. You have a sex offender in a house with
Background on Jesse McFadden
00:05:31
Speaker
a bunch of kids.
00:05:32
Speaker
He has offended. Yep. And he turned the gun on himself. Man. Murder, murder, suicide, right? So we're going to travel back a few years to 2003, where a 20 year old, if I did my math right, hopefully I did, was sentenced to 20 years for raping a 17 year old girl where he apparently bound her hands and her feet to a bed, raping her at knife point. Fantastic. Now who did, who did, who is this, is this? That would be Jesse McFadden. Okay. Great.
00:06:01
Speaker
And so I've decided that from this point forward, McFadden will only be recognized to me as douche canoe. I'm fine with that. Cool. Not to be confused with the others who were titled douche canoe in previous episodes. I don't think they were douche canoes. I think they were like douche bags, douche. They're all kind of douches. Yeah. I felt like douche canoe was rather new. So I went with that one. I don't know. I feel like I've used it once, but I digress. Tomato, tomato. They're all the same.
00:06:30
Speaker
So, like I said, he was sentenced to 20 years for doing this heinous act on a 17-year-old girl, again, under age, technically. Let me guess, he didn't serve all 20 years. No, it gets better, actually. Oh, crap. Yeah, there's a great story. You're going to love this a lot, right? I'm going to be angry. So during his stay, he was also convicted of soliciting nude images from a teen while he was in prison.
00:06:53
Speaker
Now, I have question marks. I have question marks while he was in prison. While he was incarcerated by our justice systems. He's continuing to be a predator. He did this in 2017, I believe.
00:07:09
Speaker
So he was up for parole in 2020. OK. So 17 years in this sentence. Yep. And they call this the 85 percent
Justice System Concerns
00:07:20
Speaker
rule. Right. Well, at least he didn't get out after three years for good behavior during his stay. He solicited children for new pictures. How is that good behavior? Don't point your finger at me. He gets released in 2020. So I got some questions for you.
00:07:37
Speaker
I've got a lot of questions. Raise the girl at my point, okay, which is assault with a deadly weapon.
00:07:41
Speaker
See? Dang, that stinks. Anyways, so. You're at my point. Somehow, somehow gets access to nude photos of a minor in jail, but gets released on good behavior. OK, super strict internet protocols they've got going on, right? Just to go super. No, no, turns out later on found out it was actually they called it contraband cell phones. That makes it better. OK, we'll get down down down the line a little bit. OK, as it turns out,
00:08:11
Speaker
He was set to stand trial that day for that very reason, the day he killed everybody around him, 2020, 2023, sorry, three years later, okay? Wait, he was set to stand trial for what, the contraband? The nude pictures of the minecraft. Why didn't they just take him back and put him back in a pin where he belonged? Question, why was he ever set free, right? Make room for other people that had, you know, weed possession charges? He was out there walking around, living his life, okay?
00:08:38
Speaker
When were the charges filed? Like, I don't understand, okay? So, apparently, according to the research that I did, the charges were filed in 2017. He was up for parole in 2020, okay? So, why did they release him on good behavior if he's got contraband, which means he's not allowed things. I am talking, shut your hole. Fine. So, he's got contraband, which is not allowed, which means he's breaking rules, which is bad. Yeah. That's a red day in kindergarten.
00:09:08
Speaker
It's a red day in kindergarten. Now he's got nudie pictures of children. That would be an automatic expulsion in kindergarten. That's not good behavior either. In case we're not following. Yet they release him. Just Bob's your uncle, free to go and be a blight on society. Correct. Kind of what it sounds like, right? So I lose more and more faith in our justice system the more we discuss these. Oh, by the day. By the day. Why can't that judge that had the little electric chair that he pressed and went,
00:09:38
Speaker
as he was doing trials. Oh, yeah. You know, wrongfully convicted people. Why couldn't he be on this? Because you know what he'd have done? Could've fried him regardless. Yeah, fried him. So. How do you get access to the cell phones? I don't know. Someone smuggled it. All right. So 2017, we're looking at this guy getting it up there. Yeah. Shut up. You are just not going to let it go. I don't listen to your words. You even stop talking in 10 minutes.
00:10:08
Speaker
because my things are, my thoughts are golden. Your things are golden. Things are golden, shut up. Maybe you need surgery tomorrow. I don't know what's going on. I just need a good night's sleep. What do they call it when you remove half a person's brain, like half their brain? Half a person. I think we both need to be done. Okay. Okay, so anyways. Way to prove how dumb I am. Oh, no, no, no, no. If I have to lose a trash bag comment, you have to leave the, the, that comment.
00:10:35
Speaker
oh my god our followers just went down before thanks for hanging in there mom all right so is this really what the prison system looks like apparently so like I mean you and I both listen to Shawn outward when he when he sits there and he recalls his accounts in jail and what he went through yeah yeah it just doesn't seem feasible
00:10:59
Speaker
that that's not what's happening like in the system like was douche canoe staying at the Ritz Carlton of freaking jail cells like I don't understand how well the deal is I mean how do you get a cell phone to me are they really shoving this stuff up there up there their anus people get I mean they get things smuggled in like that's that's that's common knowledge now Shawn Atwood was at like a super ridiculous prison in Arizona
00:11:26
Speaker
But, I mean, he talked more about like the cockroaches that would crawl over him the way they were treated, which all that's true. The only thing that I would say would surprise me is the fact that he raped a minor at knife point and it wasn't the KIS kill on sight. Yeah. But he was 20. So it was close enough that I don't think it would have been considered like true pedophilia by the other criminals for the just beef crap out of them. Yeah. So I don't I don't have this. I'm this whole thing.
00:11:55
Speaker
is really annoying not to mention the fact that the prosecutor at the time when he was up for parole let him out dumb no the prosecutor was like
00:12:06
Speaker
No, he's standing another trial for soliciting nude photos of a minor. So who said we'll disregard that and say he's been good? Those are the things that I couldn't find doing my podcast. What did he do? Color in the Lines and Arts and Crafts time? You know, he did write a letter to the system. I didn't add this into my notes. You'll have to just go Google it later on. Just about like, he wasn't- I don't want to Google. I want to- He got sentenced, he got sentenced a 20 year sentence. He made it 11 months.
00:12:34
Speaker
and wrote a letter to the judge that convicted him or whatever, basically begging for forgiveness, he's
Victims' Families Seeking Justice
00:12:40
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reformed, he's this, he's that, whatever. Okay, it's not like he was charged with sash toy rape because he was 20 and his girlfriend was 17. Not his girlfriend. I said it's not like that. Yeah. He took a girl.
00:12:54
Speaker
He held a knife to her throat and impaled her with his personage against her therefore I don't care how sorry you are it's called Consequences up till my child when she does things if I sell her more than once it's a consequence so When you do things you get consequences when you rape someone you go to jail and just because you're sorry doesn't take it away and
00:13:19
Speaker
When you look at child pornography in jail from a stolen cell phone, you should have a consequence. But because you don't, you're let out and you destroy more lives. Congratulations, the United States. Just throwing that one out there, just saying. I'm fine with that. Yeah. All right, so when the bodies were found. Brian is looking at you like you are a crazy person.
00:13:43
Speaker
I don't think you should just throw out castration in front of him like that and I'll loosey-goosey. Like his eyes. I don't think I've ever seen that much white in his eyes before. No, thanks, Paige. Well done. So anyways, when the bodies were found, I guess maybe the cops thought it was cut and dry, clear, murder-suicide case closed. Okay. I'm sorry if I was his wife, it wouldn't have gotten that far. But not really for the victims of these families. Of course not.
00:14:10
Speaker
So according to a News Nation report, the families were told not to discuss this case with the media. Because after the family members of the victims did their own walkthrough and found their children's phones, computers, restraints, phones,
00:14:25
Speaker
and bloody clothes that looked like that of a toddler. And I'm sure I missed other stuff. But I'm sorry. I'm going to interject again. So this I don't know when I say family members, I'm talking the her children who were were killed, not just the children. Yeah. My kids killed because it's at a friend's house. And I do. Number one.
00:14:47
Speaker
I'm just gonna be honest, my kids never having a sleepover unless I know like entire backgrounds. Like I can think of one friend that she can spend the night with and it's only because I've been friends with her mom since middle school. And I know their dad really well and he would literally kill a fool. So I'm fine with them staying there. That's the only non-family member she can spend the night with pretty much ever. But if my kid is going to spend the night, if I branched out and let my kid spend the night, which again probably won't but that's fine,
00:15:13
Speaker
You don't think I'm not gonna do a just a slight Google search and if you do a slight Google search on this douche canoe you're gonna find all his douche canoe habits like you know where he went to jail for raping a girl at knife point.
00:15:28
Speaker
Even if I didn't do all that, my child dies with these people. I'm gonna do some Googling then. And you're gonna tell me not to talk to the news? No, sorry, Bob. I'm going to scream to anyone that can hear that my child is dead because the justice system did not do their job and let out someone who was still committing crimes while incarcerated. They knew he was doing that and they still let him out and that is why my child's dead. And I'll find any two-bit lawyer I can to sue said justice system. Even if I don't win,
00:15:57
Speaker
It's a precedent. It's a precedent. Yep. I'm done. Are you jumping down off your soapbox? For the moment. I'm the soapbox. Totally new. I'm sitting down with my feet firmly planted on soapbox so I can just stand up back on it. OK. Well, you probably will. You probably will. Because I was really passionate. You should have heard me last night talk about some of this with Brian. I'm sure he was like, can I go home now? Like, how long are you going to not be able to talk after this surgery? It's not on your mouth. Dang it.
00:16:30
Speaker
Hate you So the victim's family is basically told by the cops that the case is closed and we didn't need any of the things that they found Okay. Oh, yeah, and so like okay. So first of all, let's just jump back Okay, not even a paragraph. Where is this at? Is this in line? to
00:16:50
Speaker
Arkansas where there's a population of 10 and Billy Bob's the sheriff who's you know at least related in some way I know what you're saying I know
00:17:09
Speaker
What do you mean we don't need the evidence you found it's just disregarded Just well kind of like his bad behavior before he was let on parole I guess and so one of the things we don't want to work That's why I want to jump back into this so they found I'm so angry computers cell phones restraints
00:17:28
Speaker
Mm. Bloody clothes. How is none of that evidence to anything? Were there more victims? They said that they found bones and use a toddler. Yeah. Bone. Where are the bones? Where are they finding this stuff at? They the family members of of Holly McFadden. And I think some of the other girls. Yeah. Some of the other parents that were the two little girls that got murdered.
00:17:52
Speaker
did walk through. The cops were literally asking the family members of Holly McFadden if they wanted to keep restraints.
00:18:02
Speaker
If you want to keep it, that's fine, but we don't need it. If so, you can just toss it. Just throw away the evidence. That's what they were saying to them. Are these people still in law enforcement? Who knows? This is an ongoing case, my dear. You know what? This right here. This is the reason, you know, all all law enforcement don't like, quote unquote, armchair detectives. But we do want to work sometimes. Yep. Well, at least a little bit logical.
00:18:27
Speaker
You think or just you know, hey, you've got a grieving family. They just lost their loved ones Even if you don't need the evidence Frickin tend and bag it. Yeah, I mean these people just wanted answers. So would I obviously? Are there other victims out there other than the six people that we knew about? The only reason that the cops went back was because the family did what?
00:18:51
Speaker
went against the cops and called the media. Good for them.
Investigation and Law Enforcement Critique
00:18:56
Speaker
So now it became so public that they
00:18:59
Speaker
It's an ongoing investigation currently. It should be. And there should be some investigation of why he was walking the streets. And I'm going to be honest with you, like legit, if you just go on to Facebook and go to the watch or videos or whatever it is and just type in Jesse McFadden. Oh, I'm sure. I know there are so many, so many interviews that you can watch family members, news anchors that were furious about what
00:19:23
Speaker
the whole don't contact the media thing, like, because honestly, truth be told, like, would anybody have even heard about it? No, they had just gone away in the night like it didn't. They didn't matter. And that, you know what? They don't want anybody going to media because they didn't want their shoddy workmanship put out. And so, like, I want to be honest with you, I'm sitting here like doing all this research and trying to figure it out. And I came somebody's got to look into it like one of the interviews, some
00:19:52
Speaker
I don't know, some retired judge or maybe something like that. He was like, you know, this is just gross negligence, blah, blah, blah. And I was just thinking to myself, like.
00:20:02
Speaker
Yeah, it screams gross negligence. Absolute stupid police and board or they're trying to cover it up. Like those are the only two things that I could possibly think of that this guy would have the greatest luck ever. And then they're all like, oh, yeah, move along. Nothing to see here. These restraints don't matter. No computers. I mean, come on. When you think about computers and child predators, what do you think?
00:20:23
Speaker
It's a network, my bro. It's a network. What did you what did you send me, map? Yeah, that's what. Yeah, you call yourself maps because that's what that's what people are going to need to find your body. You're going to need to find your body. Yep, yep, yep. Anyways, so on the subject, but on the subject and I will find her tick tock handle. But there is this lady on tick tock and I adore her.
00:20:47
Speaker
So she's her own money and she found out about this guy on TikTok that was a pedophile. He's a predator. And he's got all these little groups you can sign up to and they share their kitty porn and they share like all these tips on how. So she signed up with her own money to a subscription. She takes screenshots of all their usernames, of all their conversation and she just blasts it. So they keep having to shut down their website, but she just keeps re-signing up and they just keep letting her in.
00:21:13
Speaker
and she just keeps giving it to the FBI and the police but they're not doing enough so she just shoots it all over the world so everybody knows and when you come to into contact with them it's just gonna be this is why this is why vigilantes happen uh-huh this case is why this is batman this is where we needed our uh where we need the dark knight
00:21:34
Speaker
This is where we needed our Dexter. Yes, the little guy from Brazil. Was it that case? Yes, it was the Brazilian Dexter. Yeah. I remember your research better than you do. Yeah, well, I've slept since then. All right, so there's so many questions at this point that remain open, unanswered.
00:21:52
Speaker
This is a very new investigation. Because look, here's the deal. So that's like, that's kind of one of the reasons I wanted to do the story in general is because
Role of Media and Public in Justice
00:22:08
Speaker
like,
00:22:10
Speaker
I don't understand how, it just doesn't make sense. Why are we not investigating? Why is it open and closed cased? Why would you not want to know? Because if he had not been let out on parole for good behavior, which he did not fit into that box. No, especially committing crime. While incarcerated and already going to be put up on charges for said crime while incarcerated, that's not good behavior. If he'd been left to rock as he should have, then we wouldn't be having this conversation at all.
00:22:39
Speaker
So, I mean, my question to the public and to you guys, whatever you. Is this a case, a case that's just going to die in a few weeks and we just don't hear about it again and not if we talked about it, if everybody thinks about it. I think that there are because I feel like at that point, the cops are getting exactly what they want.
00:22:55
Speaker
It's gone, it's a shit, it's an open closed case. I think 10 years ago, yes, this case would be gone and forgotten as soon as the media died there. But there are, fortunately, too many people that love true crime these days and they like the memes. A lot of people like my meme today. It was a good one. You should go check it out. Talking to Lisa, not our five viewers. But enough people are into true crime. Enough people are going to share it. Enough people are going to sit there and continue to press, even though technically it's not their business. They have no dog in the hunt.
00:23:25
Speaker
They don't know any of the victims, but either they knew someone that was a victim or they just care about, you know, people in general and their decent human being. They're not going to let it die down. And as long as there's talks and shares and clicks, it doesn't go away. And then it's going to rise up in the media again because somebody's going to say something that's going to spark a surge on Facebook or TikTok or Instagram.
00:23:47
Speaker
our Twitter or whatever, and everybody's going to get interested in the case again, put pressure and they're going to have to investigate and it might die down again, but that cycle will continue until hopefully it's solved. That's how a lot of them have
Child Safety Education
00:24:01
Speaker
gotten solved. If there's no DNA evidence or not enough, it's just the public interest grows to a level
00:24:11
Speaker
where they have to reopen the investigation. They have to assign it to a task team or something. So one of the interviews that one of the victim's dads did. So we don't even know what happened, how all these people got that. They all got shot. We're assuming murder, suicide. Yeah. But we don't know if the kids were raped or if anything like that happened. I have none of that. I'm sorry. I know. I love you, though. Listen. So one of the dads twisted tell true crime at chiefnot.com. And he's just like, you know,
00:24:41
Speaker
Like, how do you know when somebody's like that, right? Like, you can sign up on your little sex offender list, but how many people, honestly and truly, know?
00:24:51
Speaker
How many people get out there get on the computer if they have access to a computer to check to check a registry Because nobody really likes a middle-aged white women do I'll tell you that much. That's right. Yes, that's very true But I guarantee if this was a 30 year old white woman, she'd been like I googled because we like to be in the know. Yeah, well And it's not like these parents weren't but they fell victim. No an asshole
00:25:15
Speaker
well and you know there's no way how many times when you were in high school or middle school and you're like hey i'm going over to a friend's house for i'll be back later i didn't name the friend especially not a license like i didn't have a curfew growing up i was a good child i'm like you though
00:25:30
Speaker
But I just tell my parents, I'm going out. I'll be back later. And as long as I was back by before 1 a.m., if not, I'd get the caller. I knew my parents would just my mom would be waiting for me because she's a vampire. But. Like, I wouldn't be in trouble, but they'd be waiting for me like, oh, where'd you go? Yeah, I was over at Blow and Blow's house, but I didn't have to tell them ahead of time.
00:25:49
Speaker
You were over blowing who? I said over at Blow and Blow's house. I meant to say blah, blah, blah. But I said blow and blow. I was just wondering who you were blowing at night. I was blowing no one in high school because again, I was a good child. I like you.
00:26:02
Speaker
But like, okay, so serious, serious questions. I didn't even know what that was. I thought you blew. Made sense to me, you know? Oh my God. I'm wise. We should just end it now. Just
Justice System and Sex Offender Registry Criticism
00:26:11
Speaker
say goodnight. Okay. Just say goodnight. No, but like I'm asking a legitimate question. You haven't asked it yet. How do you know? How do you know? Because here's the deal too. How many of the other ones that we talked about that were sex offenders signed the list, moved away, and they don't have to register in a new state.
00:26:31
Speaker
are they just don't they just move and they don't know because quite frankly parole officers are overwhelmed especially in cities that are in but they're not but they're not on parole they're free they just sign a little list that they're registered sex offenders and then they go do whatever they want to update it if you move but that all works on the honor system and i gotta tell you nine times out of ten if you're on the sex offender registry
00:26:54
Speaker
They've got a lot of honor in you to be part of the honor system. Personally, if my child is going to anyone's house and you think that my large arse won't be in that house meeting both of those parents, see if I get the heebie-jeebies or not. But sometimes people don't give off those bucks. I think you would get, I don't know. I'm not saying all the time, but you can't tell me like when you meet people, like when I met Brian, I was like, wow.
00:27:24
Speaker
I'm sorry that you're here having to witness this. I'm a delight. He knows it. You're a whore. Anyways. I mean, you do the best you can as a parent on all honesty. I do not think that the parents of the victims in this case did anything wrong. And I think he asks a legitimate question. How can you know? How can you keep your child safe all the time? Honestly, you can't.
00:27:47
Speaker
Yeah, you prepare your child. It's like we talked about the other day used to we spent so much time protecting their innocence. And now it's a fine line of protecting their innocence yet preparing them for the real world. Yeah, my daughter seven, since she was
00:28:06
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three or four, it's not a stranger danger conversation because, and I agree, I watched a thing the other day with this, this news lady was talking about how she hates the term stranger danger. And they do the thing where her and a police officer will go to a park and ask the parent, hey, can this officer in civilian clothes try to lure your kid away? And the parent, I've talked to my kid about stranger dangers, no way they'll go. 100% go. And when the mom's like, we've talked about this, well, they were nuns.
00:28:35
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strangers you're not a stranger after you talk for a minute so it is and I have got nieces and one of my youngest niece is five she's two years younger than my daughter and we went to Dollywood with them and it's me my mom and my sister-in-law and the three girls and my nephew who's two and my niece tried to run off and Bella grabbed her and pulled her back she's like someone's gonna take you yeah do you know what to do if they take you and I was like it's
00:29:02
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Sorry, but yeah. When I have that discussion with my son, I call them tricky people because they'll pretend to be nice and they'll say whatever they need to to get you there. And if somebody grabs you, you need to ask. Don't scream anything. Scream something that matters. Yo, what's my name? You're not my dad. What's my name? And that gets people's attention.
00:29:25
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Yeah, not hell not yeah, but sorry guys that lightning it's not during it felt like it was in my face But I don't I think that you just there's no way to 100% protect your kids unfortunately, especially not in a situation like this This guy never should have been on the street No, that and if you're releasing somebody to the general public like that, I'm sorry, dude, but it was
00:29:47
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They make people on drugs where house arrest, you know what I'm saying? Why can't we do something like that? Strap them up, dude. Put an ankle bracelet on them so they know. We as Americans do not value the sanctity of human life in any form. Agreed. A hundred percent.
00:30:06
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We don't. And that's why when I titled this podcast, I'm going to hop right back up on my soapbox. We value as Americans,
Conclusion and Call for Accountability
00:30:12
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we value the quote unquote, sanctity of rescue and shelter dogs and cats or orcas or seals or whatever endangered wildlife more than we value human life. Yeah. So why would I make someone that just preys upon humans accountable? Yeah. Well, that's, that's what I, when I titled my podcast,
00:30:36
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When I titled my podcast, I asked a very, very simple question. Like, is it really? Do they really believe that they can rehabilitate, rehabilitate these people? Or is it just a case of human rights? Like they don't feel like they should be locked up like dogs. So they just let them go. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways, it's piss pouring rain now. I'm sorry. I ruined your life.
00:31:00
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Find out the best story to tell the day before I'm in charge of your week and morphing that body. But that either way, it's something that needs to get brought up because there's too many. There's too much crap like this that goes down. Agreed. 100 percent where the justice system just falls flat on the freaking face.
00:31:20
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and it needs to be talked about. It does. People like him need to be talked about because they're out there and it's real and it's not, this is not some fabricated dreamed up, hopped up on drugs kind of thing. It goes on a lot and people don't want to talk about it because well, it's uncomfortable. Well that and by brushing it under the rug and not dealing with it, all you're telling is the people around him that are like him is they can get away with it too. Yeah.
00:31:50
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Absolutely aren't consequences for your actions. I agree That's crap. Well as usual Lisa's left us all dissatisfied and angry Satisfied and angry. I like to end it to that I Got you good cases. You love them and you know it. Oh Lord. I do Time to go. All right. Well, apparently it's decided to hurricane a monsoon. So we're gonna go get our bunkers All right. Hope you guys have a great night Bye