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Will Day's return, Luke Pedlar's TOG, and keeping a lid on Brayden Fiorini | Round 6 AFL Fantasy #PODPOD
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Will Day, Tom Green, and Zach Merrett return in a time of need, while some coaches scramble for a Touk Miller replacement, and others consider a luxury double downgrade. With plenty of options available in round 7, Dos, Stato, Holmesy, Lewy, and Harmey work through all the hot topics ahead of another massive week as we hit the quarter mark of the season.
Stato celebrated his birthday in style, yelling at his TV screen for more Luke Pedlar TOG, Holmesy tallied up another W in his Hunt VS Cole debate, and Dossy (whether influenced by concussion or not) keeps a lid on a long-time favourite priced at 523k... or does he...
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Transcript
Introduction & AFL Fantasy Season Overview
00:00:02
Speaker
you
00:00:17
Speaker
G'day, and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's your boy Darcy on this Wednesday night, April 26th, 2023, talking all things AFL fantasy. We're officially one quarter through this beautiful fantasy season that we all love so, so much. And joining me to talk through all our triumphs for the week, we have the Statesman, Holmsey, Louis, and Hami, the full Pod Squad on deck. Let's not waste any time. And let's talk about the week that was. I want to just go through our scores and ranks
00:00:47
Speaker
Straight away, because we've got so many of us on here.
Holmesy's Fantasy Success
00:00:50
Speaker
Holmesy, I know you're a took owner, mate. Beautiful times this weekend for you, no doubt.
00:00:56
Speaker
Yeah mate, not ideal. Still managed to get a 2013 this week, which still saw me rise up about 2,000 spots in the ranks. So I told myself I'd be positive as long as I was increasing my rank week on week, so I can't be too upset. But yeah, when you have a took Miller and you have a captain on him for a 48, it does leave a bit of a sour taste in your mouth knowing that moving week's a little bit wasted now.
00:01:21
Speaker
Yeah, that hurts and we'll be talking about him as a hot topic coming up very shortly and what to do with him and maybe who presents a potential opportunities in his stead.
Harmony's Fantasy Struggles
00:01:31
Speaker
Harmony though, welcome back to the pod mate. It's been a couple of weeks since we've had you on, but you've been dropping some loose, dare I say, DOS-esque options in the DMs lately. How's your squad going with all those moves?
00:01:44
Speaker
I think that's what's resulted in my poor score. Stacey listening to you a little bit too much. But anyway, look, my lowest score of the year and first time under 2000, actually one nine four six. I was a bit of a sad weekend for me. And so that puts my ranking at seven, seven, eight, six.
Louis and the Harry Sheasel Curse
00:02:06
Speaker
still lingering around mate and uh well again dare i say roaching as well the cockroach will not die uh harley as dossie did last year uh let's get on to our man louie as well and look you you didn't quite manage to make it on the pod last week you did try your hardest to get back and get on the show but we actually mentioned last week you acquired harry sheasel in your keeper league again a guy we might be talking about on this pod but
00:02:33
Speaker
Could this be the Louis curse? First week is the only one. Yeah. I did think that it was kind of funny that he drops that. The week that I trade Josh Kelly, who did score pretty well as well, for Harry Schiezel. So yeah, maybe it is the Louis curse. That'll be something to monitor. And hopefully it doesn't infect Tristan Cherry too, who I got on the other end of that.
00:02:57
Speaker
But my score for this week was 2135, so it was nice to get one out of the box. I'm not used to scoring up in this upper echelon, so it feels good to feel a little bit like the Statesman. And that brings me my rank up to 8545, and that's from 16k at the start of the round last week.
The Fossil's Birthday Week Reflections
00:03:18
Speaker
Yeah, we love that. Moving in the right direction, mate. That's good to hear. And last but not least, we have the fossil adding another year on to the birthdays there. Fossil, how was the birthday week for you, mate? Yeah, 38 was a good birthday, mate. I enjoyed it immensely. I didn't enjoy fantasy footy this week. I knew I was in a bit of pain
00:03:44
Speaker
obviously by benching day in green but that's the long-term play it's the right move to make this time of year when you're going okay but I started seeing every player I didn't have excelling and then every well basically every pot I had really struggled so in 1957 was a bit hard to take
00:04:09
Speaker
dropped the rank by 901 positions so 1196 so a bit of pain there but at the end of the day I basically get three rookies off the field this week so triple upgrade week.
Stado's Attitude and Suk Power Rankings
00:04:28
Speaker
Now, just a quick roundtable, lads. Do we think Stado's number one on the Suk power rankings on the chat this week with his woe is me attitude, homie? Mate, just on this. Stado gets upset before his team's even gone bad. So when players that he doesn't have go big, he's even upset. Far out, mate. The bullets at me and Louis have been copping all year, and you're depressed because Canelio goes 135. Come on.
00:04:58
Speaker
I went to the footy on the weekend, watched the Hawks and Adelaide game and I checked my messages at half time and I said I got one here from Statesman, I was sitting with Warner actually, and I said I got one here from Statesman, he's complaining about peddlers time on ground being really low and Warner goes oh god I hate that, when people just shoot their mouth off early in the game without even letting them follow through to the end.
Darcy's Challenging Fantasy Week
00:05:22
Speaker
I don't think Peddler was even on the ground when Stado was complaining. It was the start of the first and he started on the bench.
00:05:31
Speaker
Unbelievable scenes. Well, I'll just wrap up my week, which was, as usual, lately, unfortunately, a bit of a disaster as well. 1944, but I was actually somehow, compared to the other guys, I was kind of pleased with that one, which probably tells you where my season's at. Scrounging that out of nowhere. The ranks dropped again down to 18, 130. So the road to the likes getting a little harder from here, but still in the mix. And with the amount of pods I've got, I'm sure I can make a big move.
00:06:01
Speaker
in this coming week.
Lux or Sucks Segment
00:06:02
Speaker
But let's talk about who did the right things by us and who, you know, wasn't the greatest this week in Lux or Sucks. And we'll start with our Lux. I'll start maybe with you, Homezy, giving us your Lux of the Week.
00:06:21
Speaker
Yeah, Dossie Boy and I'm going to just update the listeners on the real leaderboard that they want to know about. So my lucks for the week are Jaden Hunt with a 90 points and a 42 point last quarter. But if we go to the update here, so Jaden Hunt with a total of 468 points for the season so far and Tom Cole stranded on 234. So putting a bit of a lead on there at the moment, Dossie Boy.
00:06:46
Speaker
Yeah, thanks for that, Holmsey. And I've just let the lads know pre-show as well. Had my debut in the local footy on the weekend. May have copped a slight concussion and came home, sent some nasty, quite nasty messages to Holmsey following that. Had to apologise about some hunk comments the following day when the head had cleared up.
00:07:09
Speaker
Apologies. Oh, boy. You haven't heard this one. So, Dossie rips into me and I've just gone, Dossie, are you all right, mate? And he goes, I've got a concussion, mate. I've got to go to bed. Good night. I did. And I have a good sleep. I did. I feel feeling refreshed. Still a bit foggy, though. So, we'll get through. We forgive Hunt, though. And Hami,
Lux of the Week: Daikos and Bontempelli
00:07:34
Speaker
how about you, mate? Who was your Lux?
00:07:36
Speaker
Oh, as an Essendon fan, it was a little bit hard to watch, but Daikos is 140 that he put out. And that guy, he's just got the fantasy game, doesn't he?
00:07:48
Speaker
He's just unbelievable. It's, it's crazy what he's doing. It's, it's honestly, I don't know. It's like, it's not obviously the same sort of style of play that it's just gas junior reminiscent, just being able to dominate a game like that and just having no answers to, he's just always in the right place. They're always going to use him and he's just going incredibly efficient. Then they move him into the midfield, kicks a couple of snags in the last quarter. He's just an unbelievable talent. Um, and love having him in my fantasy team, Louie Lux.
00:08:19
Speaker
Yeah I've got to give it to Marcus Bontempelli so popped out the 148 after a pretty good start to the year really but wasn't sort of popping out the scores we come to expect and yeah to finally get some sealing there was really nice.
00:08:34
Speaker
Beautiful. Uh, I shall go in my lucks of the week and I'm going to go with my captain. You mentioned him before, uh, homesy, but Tommy Cole getting the loophole captain C on the weekend. It felt great. Uh, putting the C on the, on the big fella there. No, I'll go with Josh Kelly. You mentioned him before Louis, um, a one 25 odd, I think.
00:08:58
Speaker
and it was a good bounce back. I was very upset with him last week. May have called him Josh Smelly last week, but he's bounced back and hopefully can continue that form going forward. Stado Lux of the week.
Darcy McPherson's Contribution
00:09:10
Speaker
Yeah it's probably overdue to give this guy a pat on the back but a really good pod for me has been Darcy McPherson 109 this weekend so did a magnificent effort and averaged 94 over the three weeks that I've owned him so he's been a really good cash cow and a really good scorer for me.
00:09:28
Speaker
I do apologise, when he blacks a bag of me out, there was a lot of noise in the background, so it turned everything to silence, so it didn't record over you guys whatsoever. But I will say, Petler's time on ground in the first quarter was 10 minutes, 33% time on ground, and he ended up with 64% time on ground looking Petler.
00:09:53
Speaker
Just on that status, so I was working all weekend and couldn't really watch any footy and I've opened my phone up to the group chat message and you've done nothing but bag Luke Peddler and I was like,
Petler's Time on Ground Debate
00:10:03
Speaker
oh, far out here. But I've opened the fantasy app and it's half time and he's on 59. I don't know what's going on. He must have got that in the second quarter because he wasn't on the ground in the first.
00:10:20
Speaker
The force, he's just coming after. It was a stressful week because I knew I was under the pump. It was just about damage control. So manage how many positions you lose. So you're starting the week in the top 300. You've got two guns sitting on the bench and it's going, Christ, if these guys don't work for me, which they freaking didn't. I think I had three 40s, two 30s.
00:10:46
Speaker
on my field, it was just nightmarish. And these blokes that hadn't played a second half all year pump out a 148.
00:10:55
Speaker
Can you also confirm, Stater, that you've been knocked out of the traders' eliminated games? Yes, that's how much of a bad week I had. But anyway, that's all right. It's a lot of good coaches in that mix, but yeah, had a tough one. So sorry, I'll just have a quick look, gentlemen. Let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story, but just have another look of a bit of Luke Peddler scoring.
00:11:23
Speaker
We don't need to analyse this. Louis has been on the tour since 5am. He got some game time in the second quarter. He sat on the bench for most of the first quarter. He scored 41. 41 in one quarter.
00:11:53
Speaker
Alright let's get on to our sucks.
00:12:00
Speaker
All right, Stado, so I'm guessing Luke Peddler may be for you, mate. Oh, no. It's Chris Rapp with Luke. He was playing magnificently well. I will say he's one of these players that hasn't got a good second half in his repertoire. But I was loving what he was doing. I was just annoyed he wasn't on the ground. But no, Luke doesn't get
LDU's Declining Performance
00:12:20
Speaker
it. There's a premium that scored less, Luke. Now, he was a great starter for us.
00:12:27
Speaker
pumped out two tonnes week one week two week three three minutes before the game he pulls out of the squad he's been disgraceful ever since i think he's averaging since then 78 in his last three that's ldu he's on notice he's absolutely on notice it's luxury trade season starts in stodo squad next week and i'm looking right at you ldu
00:12:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's tough. A bit of low time on ground, some talk of a bit of an ankle tweak there as well. I missed a little bit of this game, but yeah, missed that bit that happened. But there is some talk about that. Hopefully he's not out again this week. We hope that he's back and getting high time on ground. I mean, he's got the role. He should have everything going for him, but yeah, it's been unfortunate. Not good. And he's got a tough run coming up pretty soon.
00:13:19
Speaker
Correct. Lew, what about you? Who's your sucks for the week? Mine's got to go to Cozy Pickett. So I had him on the Monday night, obviously pretty much coming home for me. Only had a couple of players left and was looking at a pretty good score. And I was hoping Pickett would contribute about 80 points to that, but falling flat with a 37 was pretty hard to stomach. And with the 90 break even now coming into this week, it's probably papers stamped type stuff, I reckon.
00:13:49
Speaker
A bit of a tough decision for me on the sucks this week because I had five players that had under 50 points on field. Almost a quarter of my team. But anyway, I'll back in Louis' judgment there and go with Cozy Pickett because that's basically a stay-at-home forward pocket, no CBAs, and it was hard to watch.
00:14:13
Speaker
I will say he dropped two marks in the first quarter that were just uncontested, just straight to ground and actually didn't get a possession, so didn't have the chance to sort of clean up. And one of them was a shot at goal. It was more than that. That actually happened a bit later as well.
00:14:33
Speaker
There's big concerns on the roll there, though. Oh, absolutely. But thankfully, he's got a nice run for three weeks, so he can probably feast a little bit. But if he doesn't get back in that midfield mix, which now you're seeing Brayshore back in there, and probably the same for your boy, too, Dossie in rivers, he didn't seem to get that opportunity
Fantasy Season Challenges
00:14:56
Speaker
anymore. It's cut your losses with those guys once they finish the good run.
00:15:02
Speaker
Yep. I'll go to Holmes in a second for your sucks mate, but I'm actually, that's exactly where I'm going. I'm going to Simon Goodwin for me. Set said to you lads, I was going to not come on the pot. I saw Trent rivers and he wasn't having a great game, but in that fourth quarter started to come to life as he likes to do in garbage time. He was up to 25 points in the last quarter, still with about 10 minutes left.
00:15:27
Speaker
And then there was a turnover. There was that disgusting little turnover right in the pocket, laced out the Richmond forward. And I saw the camera went straight to the bench and it was on Simon Goodwin. He looked angrily towards the field and I said to you lads, I'm like, if he gets subbed out here, I'm off the pod this week. I can't handle this.
00:15:45
Speaker
And of course, Goodwin subs him off. But also just what you mentioned before with the Cossie picket, no CBAs, just mixing things up a little bit too much for my liking. I thought we were going to see, you know, look at the success that the crows are having running Rachele and those small guys like your rankings and speedy, speedy types through the midfield. I'm just surprised that they've gone completely away from that after the success that, you know, Cossie had, especially in that opening round, 72% time on ground and no CBAs as well. So Simon Goodwin,
00:16:15
Speaker
for my weekly sucks state-o.
00:16:32
Speaker
I had a chance to actually keep the lead in the Creator's Cup overall. And there was one player just about to get subbed out on nine. And someone says, oh, God, look at that shit score. Only at nine at three-quarter time. Pumps out of 41 last quarter, thanks, homie. So thanks very much for the rocket on the opposition player. But I will say the funniest thing that happened all week
00:17:01
Speaker
is I'm watching the Melbourne game and the message comes through from Dossie and says they better not sub rivers and then the camera pans and they say, Melbourne just about do the sub, Laurie's getting ready to go and it looks like rivers. I mean seconds later.
00:17:24
Speaker
Are we going to talk about the dementia setting infestato here? First, he thinks he's 38 years old, and then he just mentions that after Dossie spent five years talking about it. No, no, no. It was just that the timing was perfect, just watching it come up, and it just like seconds later. Holmes, have I told you about peddlers low time on ground? It needs to be mentioned. We need to get through the Adelaide crew.
00:17:52
Speaker
I'll wrap mine up quick. I had a pretty good round, all things considered, but Brad Crouch, 75 from my M1, he's been fantastic since I picked him up, but it really hurts when you see someone like Clary Oliver put on 50 points in the last quarter of his games and Crouch has an 8 point last quarter, so that hurts. Can I ask, is there anything to do with steel?
Analyzing St. Kilda's Strategy
00:18:15
Speaker
I didn't watch the game status so I don't really know. I can't really comment on that but yeah I just think it was one of those games where Carlton just absolutely possessed the hell out of the ball and St Kilda didn't need to do anything with it. They were winning and it kind of reminded me of that Port Adelaide Hawthorne game round two last year where Port just possessed the ball and whenever Hawks got it they just were that efficient and that's all they needed to do.
00:18:40
Speaker
All right, let's just get on to our hot topics. But before we do, just a quick update of the, as we mentioned before, the Content Creator Cup run by Guestie. And of course, shout out to Infinite Wealth, who's going to be providing some lush charitable donations to the winner and their choice of charity. But we'll just go through some of the winners in that.
00:19:02
Speaker
Dossi getting the big dubs over Calvin Ader, no surprises with Dossi getting another W. Stado, the birthday win over Jepa from the plus six pod, of course, stealing their segment last week, if you do remember. Homzy and Louis, though, going down to Guesty himself and Sanch from Hat Chat. And Hami with the DNP, not quite invited to the content creators company, fortunately. It was Hami, so. Oh, got me out of the DNP, though. Yeah.
00:19:32
Speaker
Some of our listener league results, we'll have to get them to you when Maddie Sterling, our loyal listener posting those results, we'll retweet them on Twitter. Hopefully he can get around to them, Maddie. Come on, mate. And the Pod Pod Challenge, Stado, do we have an update there? Yes, I'll put a chat on that. Someone that was in seventh position last week, ain't there. But there were a few coaches that have
00:19:56
Speaker
joined us in recent times and no surprise a few of them are high up in the rankings, God bless it, so they wanted to get on. So we've got
00:20:07
Speaker
Five players currently in the hat position which is absolutely fantastic and one that's been performing pretty well is Boston Pelly and he's currently still on top. That's Joshua's team and he's sitting 29th. We have Craig with Wild Turkeys in 65th. The big Lipinski, so a fan of your song with a very nice ranking of 69.
00:20:37
Speaker
and Sharks revenge at Lucas at 72 and the Fitzroy shirt fronts sitting in 100th position. So let's hope you stay in that top 100 for the remainder. Ivan's fortunately slipped to 40th but hopefully I'll peg it back.
00:20:58
Speaker
Yep, and you can search for Pod Pod Challenge just in your league there. It's just an open league. So jump on in if you haven't already and you listen to the show. Love you to join along there. Join in the hat chase there. Hot Topics lads.
Took Miller's Injury and Replacement Options
00:21:12
Speaker
And we mentioned it a few times, but Took Miller is out. He's owned by a reasonable amount of the competition. I think it was over 10%, close to 15%. A few people brought him in last week, of course, unfortunately.
00:21:25
Speaker
but let's talk about a couple of things about it. So first of all, some options to go from Took and then of course, maybe some beneficiaries are from his absence as well. First of all, Hami, I might talk to you, mate. Where would you go if you're a Took owner here?
00:21:44
Speaker
Oh, geez, you're throwing me off guard a bit there, does he? Like, I do feel a bit sorry for the people that brought him in because I was looking at him last week as well as an upgrade target. Yeah, I don't know. Look, if I didn't have lead, I'd be tempted to go for lead. I guess I say that because I feel like he's undervalued and he put up a decent score on the weekend. So I guess that's one. But it depends on what you can do with the money, whether you needed to chip off a bit of money from Took's price.
00:22:14
Speaker
and fix up another issue that you may have in your team. So it probably depends on where your team's at at this point of the game.
00:22:21
Speaker
Now, let's talk about the other side of the coin, Holmsey. There's a few guys there in the midfield that may benefit from the absence of Took Miller here because he is an incredibly high center bounce usage player. I see Noah Anderson there. I see Matty Rowell, a great unique pick, you might say as well. And of course, the man of the moment fair. And he's sitting in that low 500K bracket. Do you like the looks of any of these guys? And can you see
00:22:49
Speaker
You know, a benefit from any of the players here with Tukat. Yeah, Dossie, it's an interesting one. I think just the easy option that I think will happen is I don't think someone's going to come in and just get that 70 to 80 percent roll that Tukat. I think they probably spread it around like they normally do. So I think maybe a Dave Swallow goes back in there a little bit more. Yeah, maybe Fearena gets that bump up to 40 to 50 percent. I'm really not too sure.
00:23:16
Speaker
Are you a little bit worried about Raoul, mate? I know Took was playing that pure inside role on LDU on the weekend. Does that mean Raoul has to go back to that real inside and not be able to hunt the footy as much? I'm not too sure, but I think your mantra stays pretty strong here, Dos, is that I don't think you'd be jumping on a sun just to try and get that jump from Took Miller's role. I think Took Miller's a very good player and I'm not sure someone's going to be able to come in and score like he does.
00:23:42
Speaker
Yeah, not worried about Maddy Rao hunting the pillmate with 12, 17, and 18 touches in his last
Feorini as a Fantasy Pick
00:23:48
Speaker
three. It's all about the tackling for my man in there. But no, look, as you'd probably expect, I have some interest in Braden Ferreni. Look, I was talking to you guys pre-show, and there seems to be some discrepancies. There's a bit of conspiracy going on that the CBAs
00:24:06
Speaker
The world of the champion data, somebody at champion data is definitely bringing in Braden Feahrini this week because they do not want you to know the last quarter of the center bounce rotation. If you check out the app, hey, maybe they've fixed it by now because Sherlock Dossie called them out. But quarter four, there is no CBA is recorded for either squad. And look, being the detective that I am, I've gone back, I've looked at the numbers and I can tell you right here, right now that
00:24:37
Speaker
The beneficiary here, Feireni with four center bounces in that last quarter brought him up to a glorious 10 for the game at the moment that Miller went off. Of course, you did mention that Swallow-Homesy could be also one that benefits. He got five in the last quarter. So he did, he was the first rotation, then Feireni, as he does do, comes off the bench, got those four and scored pretty well in that role.
00:25:03
Speaker
Hami, is there any interest from you, mate? Because I think here, I think this has to be. I know we've gone some loose options. Look, last week, JJ and Chase Jones probably didn't pan out the way we wanted, but could Feorini be the actual one that does have that juicy inside role and can be an answer for us here?
00:25:21
Speaker
Oh, it's possible. Look, I do like him because he's very gettable from a rookie, which is at this point of time, what we're trying to do is get rookies off the field. So yeah, I am keen on him. Just going to throw on one thing, though, that Holmes, he said that David Swallow, like David Swallow, he already gets a third of their CBAs as it is. So
00:25:44
Speaker
I mean, I can't see him having a significant bump and I also can't see somebody like Bailey Humphrey being thrown to the wolves. I think it might be a bit too early in his career to get a decent CBA role. So yeah, it makes sense to me, but it's whether it makes sense to your mates, Chewie Dew.
00:26:02
Speaker
You've got that Alex Davies in there too, who's had a few years in the system. Yeah, he's been injured though, hasn't he? Yeah, he hasn't been playing. Yeah, I'm not sure if he's playing. He's in the VFL, as is Constable, who always obviously is a player that actually played midfield before he was thrown back. They've also got Statos man Flanders playing, well, obviously a couple of weeks away, but look, he's also a guy that could replace that role in a couple of weeks' time when he's fit and firing. Hollands, maybe.
00:26:28
Speaker
Dossie, if you've learnt anything this week from Rivers and Chase Jones, is that you'll wait a week on Feorini and actually wait for the role to be in front of you first. He's got a break even of 61. Even if he tonnes up, he's only going to go up 30 to 40K. We know you're not going to listen. We know you're going to do it, but I just...
00:26:55
Speaker
The Suns have been pretty open about the fact that they know they've got a tight-knit midfield group and they do want to expand and run a few extra players through there so whether they use this as an opportunity just to try a few different things I'm not sure but
00:27:11
Speaker
I probably agree with Holmsey there that maybe just wait a week to see with the nine mid prices in your ten. Gonna blame the compassion regardless of which direction I go but look I just the one thing that I actually did notice when I was doing some research on this
00:27:26
Speaker
Um, the big thing for me is, is Fehreni's biggest, most recent big year when he averaged 105 points. Yes, it was only in nine games, but that was in 2021. He had 57% of center bounce attendances. So not even, you know, not maximum volume. He was just in there enough and his points per minute when he's in there, 1.17 points per minute. So he's just a scoring machine when given the opportunity.
00:27:53
Speaker
Last year it was down to 22% and it's down at that 20 odd percent this year. I just think, look, the opportunity correct. Yes, but they weren't pretty, they weren't fantasy friendly back then either mate, even a couple of years ago. So I still think he's, you know, he's an option. Let's move on though to our next hot topic. And it's just a few players coming back. So I feel like a lot of us are going to feel a lot stronger. This team with will die back in the mix, Tom green,
00:28:19
Speaker
and Zach Merritt coming back. But out of those three, Louis, I reckon the one that people are still eyeing off actually bringing in as an underpriced option is Will Day.
Will Day's Return from Suspension
00:28:29
Speaker
And would you tick this off as something that you'd be keen to target this week, Will Day coming off his suspension?
00:28:36
Speaker
Yeah I was pretty flat about not starting him and not trading into him early. I wasn't sure it was sustainable and look perhaps it's not but what I saw in the first four or five rounds when he was playing in that midfield is that he's a very good player and he's got a future in that Hawks team in the center bounce and I can just see Sam Mitchell chuck him straight back in there further developing him in that role and picking up where he left off so
00:29:01
Speaker
to average 105 to begin the season is quite impressive and I think even if he can go at a 95 then it's still a good pick at the price point 727k and that's got a low breakeven attached to it as well so each week you wait you're going to be paying up more.
00:29:23
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm actually looking to get a little bit aggressive with Tukmila this weekend and still get a rookie off field to try and stay up with the good teams in the comp. So something like a Tukmila down to Will Day makes me a fair bit of cash on top of some cash I've had left over, which might actually help me fix a Mackenzie. So that's what I'm going to look to do as well.
00:29:44
Speaker
Okay. Another hot topic that a lot of our listeners have been questioning. And I guess it's a worthy question to ask based on the fact that he is a rookie, just going bonkers.
Trading Harry Sheesel Decision
00:29:55
Speaker
We forget that sometimes he is, but Harry Sheasel having his first blemish on his career record with a tough game, copped some attention in that forward line from Holman. They tried to move him around a little bit to get him involved. I think I saw him in the midfield in that, in that,
00:30:10
Speaker
that champion data hidden last quarter there, Stado, but is Sheezel a guy now that listeners are talking about maybe trading out? Is he up there on your radar for a trade out?
00:30:23
Speaker
No, he's not high on priority, but there's always a tipping point for first year players when they get a bit tired. But look, we could have said that about Daikos quite a few times last year, but he kept on being strong and probably someone you could almost keep all year. So I'm sticking with him. But if this becomes a trend, obviously, once he starts losing cash,
00:30:55
Speaker
If you want to create, seeing everyone owns him, if you want to take it on, you might be able to separate yourself from the competition. But it depends, of course, who you go to. But look, he's just nowhere near the biggest priority for me, so I won't be going there yet. But if we're just going to get 60s from him for the next two or three weeks, then I think that's a trigger enough point to take the cash and run.
00:31:08
Speaker
in a major way it might be time to move.
00:31:24
Speaker
Hmm, interesting. There were two interesting things is that North were pretty open during the week that she's or was under that injury cloud and throw them in a few different, different roles to try and accommodate that. But also we had Aaron Hall come into the side and whether or not that's the stronger correlation, I'm not sure. But it's something we're going to have to keep an eye on over the next couple of weeks.
00:31:45
Speaker
I was just going to say, it depends on what you're doing with your trades. It depends on what else you have to do this week. The safe play is just to keep rolling with him because he's got such high ownership, it's not going to hurt you if he pops a low.
00:32:04
Speaker
score because everybody else have been the same boat. But it's a risky play to trade off him with the hope that he's going to drop some low scores. But one thing I was going to say was, let's say you had a spare trade, right? You had nothing else to do with it this week and you had the choice of wheel day or sheasel in your team going forward. Who would you rather have?
00:32:32
Speaker
It's probably will day, right? This is where I have got to with it. If I can't do anything with my second trade this week, because I've got some cash in the bank from last week to fix up a rookie. So if I don't have anything else to do, I'm tempted to trade off Chisel, but I'm not a high ranking coach at the moment. So the risk doesn't really matter so much for me.
00:32:56
Speaker
It's an interesting one going forward, we'll have to monitor. I think with Melbourne and St Kilda in his next two as well, it's pretty worthy to at least maybe hold for those two defender friendly matchups in the hope that he does stay in that role as well. Okay, this is the last hot topic that I kind of had for this week and I just wanted to ask
00:33:13
Speaker
Just that roundtable discussion because we're always looking for the next rookie option and the next really obvious one with high job
Evaluating Chincotta as a Rookie Option
00:33:20
Speaker
security. And I'm just wondering, is Chincotta that clear rookie option? To me, he does look like that. But with Saad, a test for this week, potentially coming into the side. And Doc just listed it as two to four weeks away. We had a few questions about this as well. Like, is he that?
00:33:34
Speaker
obvious enough rookie to just jump on straight away and enjoy. I mean, I feel like the options for us are pretty thin regardless. So is it time to jump on a Chincotta, Holmesy, and do we have to straight away just jump on this week and just enjoy? Well, I am really torn for this one, Dossie, because you're right. Saad and Doc are two instant best 22s coming into that back line, which, you know, on that, you would assume that it's probably Cow and Chincotta that are the ones that come out.
00:34:04
Speaker
And yeah, if you only get one more week or two more weeks out of Chincotta, the coaches that traded him in last week are the ones that are really benefiting. And if we trade into him now, you might get anywhere from 70 to 100K, which would be a good result. But if he's another red dot adding up coming into buy times, he's not going to have made enough cash
00:34:25
Speaker
to get up to anyone really of note. So it is a risky one. We have to really see who comes in at selection this week. Well done to everyone that got on him last week. It was a high risk, high reward type of pick. We always knew he was going to score against St Kilda, but the job security issues are still there.
00:34:43
Speaker
Mate, Carlton did lose. Like, yeah, he had, I think, 20 odd possessions and he went at a pretty high disposal efficiency rate, but who didn't have high possessions in that game against St Kilda? They all did and they still lost, so the job security issues are still there.
00:34:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's a really tough one. And maybe we can look to maybe a son, a random son out of nowhere gets a game based on this, this latest injury or something. And we can see a kind of Blakely back in our team or something like that as the next rookie coming through. But yeah.
00:35:14
Speaker
Seamus Mitchell though at 280K, I'll just throw that around now. Hami, is he too expensive for us at 280K? You know, if you don't want to go to a Cincotto, are you willing to pay up that extra 50K? Does he have any more job security than someone like a Cincotto?
00:35:30
Speaker
I would be willing to pay 280,000 for a rookie this time of year if I was dead certain on their job security and their scoring ability now, scoring, he seems to have okay scoring, but it's
Seamus Mitchell's Performance Review
00:35:45
Speaker
his job security. And you were there, weren't you, to watch this one? I hardly noticed him. I think he got a few touches in the last quarter, but very like.
00:35:53
Speaker
And scrimshaw came on and looked good. So there's a fair bit of risk. Yeah, that's why I didn't pick him up last week. And I just don't feel like he's going to last very long. He's been on the list for a few years now. He's a debut. He's got a couple of games. Well, that's nice. But I feel like there's better players than him having the wings.
00:36:13
Speaker
So in the clutch in that last quarter when they desperately needed the win, Seamus Mitchell with nine disposals, five marks. Hami, a few too many beers on the weekend, mate. Didn't quite notice him. It was pretty scrappy though, like, but I remember he was complaining about Peppler's time on Brown.
00:36:32
Speaker
One of them was, you know, he wasn't noticeable, to be honest. Fair enough. I think that that Ryan Englund guy might actually have the best job security of the lot. And he was the late inclusion, wasn't he? So that's funny. And then half GWS fell over during that game and suddenly it looks like he might have a spot.
00:36:53
Speaker
Yeah, 20 disposals for him. So he's the guy you'd be potentially targeting this week then, Louis. I think he should be on more lists. Same with Sam Sturt. He's not going to be a big scorer, but he's probably got that job security. And that Arthur Jones, he's got a good run coming up. It's about to open up. He hasn't been a good scorer so far, but he might be one of those slow burn rookies that has the job security that we can offload during the buys.
00:37:20
Speaker
Just another name to keep on the radar as well, reported on Twitter today that Draper from Freo, it sounded like there was a bit of applause and getting around him on the ground at training today, so maybe there's a debut on the cards there, so just someone to watch as well. And what do you think about him? Oh, it's definitely a wait and see, but with the way Freo were playing at the moment, the debus might start coming because they're in an absolute hole.
00:37:48
Speaker
Is anything like his namesake I'd avoid? I'll just also flag that Tommy's been flagging. He flagged for us last week on the podcast. 29 Disposals again on the weekend as well as Jackson Binz from Carlton. He's been just racking it up in the VFL, so another potential guy to look at.
00:38:10
Speaker
Doesn't play the backliner role, I don't think he's more of that forward, but Bin's one that's mid-forward at 238k, so another potential one with a nice little juicy matchup if he does get a game this week. All right, let's move on to our... On Angwin, I mean, Least with Angwin, he's been on the list for a few years, he had some injury interruptions early on, but he was a fairly high draft pick and stuff as well. You've got to think about these guys that are coming in who were some of the last players put on the list. Yeah, I think Louis probably made a good point.
00:38:40
Speaker
He's got opportunity last year too. I think he broke his leg really early on and that was it that we saw for him. But yeah, to see him come back mature age, yeah, there might be something to it. It's our observations roundtable now. I think we've got a couple to go through, not everyone this show, but who wants to start us off? Maybe Stado, you can start us off with your little observation, which we've been enjoying these every week, getting our roundtable discussion going.
00:39:07
Speaker
Yeah it's just one I'm sure you're all aware of this but sometimes obviously with the different game styles give us really good matchups or poor matchups we know sort of the defensive power. There's a really interesting one at the moment that seems to be growing week on week and it seems to be getting bigger and bigger is St Kilda playing remarkable footy with
00:39:33
Speaker
a lot of injuries right now, but it's all based on system. Now, unlike Ross the Boss' previous models where he's been a bit harsh on individual defensive strategies,
00:39:50
Speaker
he's working purely on a team defence so what they're doing is actually building really good structure forward of the ball which is creating clubs to actually try
St Kilda's Defensive Approach
00:40:01
Speaker
and find ways to pinpoint or swap side to side so doing the switches of play which means what actually is happening
00:40:10
Speaker
is the opposition playing St Kilda are getting a tonne of the footy. We saw it round one with Frio defence. We're starting to see it all around the ground with this model right now. So have a look at the data of Colton on the weekend. Close to 1900 fantasy points.
00:40:30
Speaker
and St Kilda had 14.90. So they are losing poorly in AFL fantasy but winning really well on the field. So the match-ups coming up for St Kilda is Port. So we've got an under-pise premium in Port at the moment that I think is a great target. North Melbourne
00:40:55
Speaker
which is interesting is probably why I want to look at LDU to see if we can get him back up and running. Dossett boy then Adelaide so by the time Adelaide comes I want to have it either Dawson or Led, GWS and then Hawkes pre-buy so that's the matchups coming.
00:41:17
Speaker
Did that mean you were going to hold Chase Jones for another couple of weeks then, Stado? No, failed experiment. And look, I actually just really thought, and you were there at the ground, but what it seemed to me is he was stationed on one wing that is effectively the attacking wing, but they kept on
00:41:37
Speaker
They kept on using the defensive side. Now, weirdly, both teams did, so it always seemed to be on the other side of the ground from him. So it's probably a little bit unlucky that way, but he's got Collingwood one of the toughest matchups, and then he's got Geelong at down at Cadinea Park. So, two really tough matchups. I'm thinking, yeah, failed, get off it, let's not drag this any longer.
00:42:05
Speaker
Yeah, seeing that first quarter, he was definitely on that dead wing. But what happened was it was such a congested game and it was just all about like taking it through the center of the ground and punching a stoppage. So any of those outside players weren't really getting amongst it. Do you feel that we should be giving him, despite a bit of a tough run, another look? I'm going to.
00:42:30
Speaker
I'm going to give another look. Holmes is giving the cross though. You're out. So he's chasing it all day. I'm a Gyndi or a Jones out.
00:42:42
Speaker
What I will say on the Jason de Anderson front, seeing as we went there last week as well, is Louis and I both looked at that thinking he actually played a pretty good game despite his 67 likes. He was the better pick. He had 22 touches. All the defenders struggled in that game. I feel like he is still going to be a strong pick. So don't jump off him. I reckon he'll be bouncing back this week. Yeah, he was the better pick. I think he was the highest scoring defender for them.
00:43:06
Speaker
My fear is if Crozier, who actually started the year and scored really well, if he comes back and then JJ gets moved forward, let's hope for those people that brought him in, it's not the case. Yeah, in a game where they won by 10 goals in Perth against Freo, I don't think they're changing up that team unless there's forced injuries, just for this week at least anyway. Yeah, fair call. As the last bit of this roundtable discussion, we're going bargain hunting.
Fallen Premium Players as Picks
00:43:38
Speaker
Let's go bargain hunting with Harmony. You want to talk about some fall and premiums here and when potentially we jump on them. Yeah, that's right. Dospy, look, there's I guess we're struggling a little bit with the rookies and that's limiting our ability to get onto the upgrade season. So I don't know if it truly is upgrade season at the moment if we're still looking at JJ and Chase Jones. But anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that there are players that are
00:44:26
Speaker
Now, but then there's some others. I'll just flag a couple of others that I think could be in your pocket for the future. Gus Brayshaw, if he ever bounces back. Will Brody, he's had been the sub and low time on ground. So Perryman, these guys and Simpkin, I suppose, with that hand injury. So there's a few that are going to drop in price over the next few weeks, but you wouldn't necessarily call them gun premium players. However,
00:44:32
Speaker
have dropped.
00:44:54
Speaker
I'll throw a few that I have looked at that I think aren't sort of about the right price.
00:45:00
Speaker
Rory Leed, he's dropped 148,000. He's now priced at 106, which I think is more realistic and potentially a few points upside there. Callum Mills, I am pretty keen on. So he's got a break even of 118. So you could probably still wait a little bit, but I feel like he did this last year. His role's been thrown around quite a bit. And I think there's a point in time that's going to come when we're going to look at him as being a good trading option. He's priced 97 at the moment.
00:45:30
Speaker
Is that just going to be the moment they get their key defenders back in the side and see them named? It could be this week. Rampian McCartan. Exactly. So, yeah. It's almost a straight swap from LDU to Mills at the moment.
00:45:45
Speaker
Anyway, so he's dropped 148,000 for the year. Hugh McCluggage, I think you might have mentioned him earlier there, Dospy, but he has dropped 205,000 K for the year. He's priced at 82. He got that 94 in the weekend, but geez, I was surprised that he didn't score higher. He had a really good game, actually.
00:46:05
Speaker
I was keen to get in last week, couldn't get there in the end, but he's dropped 50,000 for the year, priced at 82. He's probably got a little bit of upside, I'd say, particularly with a nice run for Port Adelaide over the next few weeks. This one here, Daniel Rich.
00:46:21
Speaker
Had a couple, he had an injured score and then another low score, so he's currently priced at 77, down on 86,000 for the year, break even of 88, so he's getting about right. Isaac Heaney, I liked this one, I should have really jumped at this last week, priced at 78, he's had a few good scores in a row, and he's down 110,000 for the year, so break even of 58 I'd say, he's probably on the up now.
00:46:47
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, that's there's a few that I sort of made a note about. I'm just saying, I think that there's a bit of value around that we should be kind of searching for as well rather than chasing Clary Oliver at top price.
00:47:03
Speaker
Yeah, and maybe there's some potential options if you do want to go a more risky path or jump ahead of the curve. If you've got a Miller in your side and you do have to jump off as well. Maybe not those more riskier ones, but guys like you mentioned, I think, Laird and even maybe a Mills if you do see the key defenders back in the squad.
Increased Center Bounce Attendance
00:47:24
Speaker
Okay, let's move on now and we're going to be just talking very quickly on our center bouncer tendon section here called I diddle diddle. Straight through the I diddle diddle.
00:47:35
Speaker
Hi Diddle Diddle, we're just going to go through a notable player this week that's spent a little bit more time in the middle. This one's brought to you by the Kepa League Pod. Remember to use the code PODPOD at sign up for 20% off. Go support our sponsors to support us. Remember, it's not just for Kepa Leagues, it's for Fantasy Classic as well. Tons of CBA and kicking trends, Drafty Fantasy Analysis. Check out those state league scores as well to see who's doing well in the twos. But I diddle diddle and I've noticed
00:48:05
Speaker
Toby F'ing Green, Stado, spent a little bit of time in the guts this week, going up 20% on his season average, 33% time in the guts. He had center bounce attendances in every single quarter on the weekend, including plenty late in the game.
Toby Green's Game Involvement
00:48:25
Speaker
I've just got to play some audio now from the classic Draft Doctors days from you, Stado. Mate, Toby Green is a gun.
00:48:33
Speaker
You're a big fan of Toby grain. Could you go there in classic knowing that he's getting a little bit of a dabble of center bounce attendances.
00:48:40
Speaker
The man's a gun. There's no doubts about it. It's just a pity another T-Green's coming back in the squad, which I think will reduce his chances for CBAs. But honestly, if we ever see him appearing on a regular basis, he's a jump on quick because the man's an absolute star. He's a magnet. He's fantastic to watch. He's one of those players where when GWs play, and even when they're playing,
00:49:08
Speaker
Crap, it's worthwhile watching TFG. Love it. We're going to go through some questions now, but we're going to say farewell to Lou, who's, as we said, been on the tool since 5am. So mate, thanks for your hard work. We're done on the weekend, Lou.
00:49:22
Speaker
Thanks for listening, everyone. See you later, Lou. All right, we're going to get through some questions that have come through from Twitter now and I'm going to go through. This is from Pod Pod at Pod Pod AFL on there. Don't have the blue tick. Musk has taken those away from everyone. But don't worry, we're still on there and we will go through some of the questions. You can hit us up.
00:49:43
Speaker
During the week, we usually put out a tweet and you can get your questions in. Usually, we just ask for player requests these days. We did a question one this week, so a bit of a vintage style. This one's from Remy. Oh, yeah, we're not stealing segments this week. Maybe next week, though. Got something up our sleeve. This one from Remy. Can I miss day this week if it means getting a rookie off field for a Fioreni type?
00:50:07
Speaker
No, you can absolutely not miss day this week to go fair any. That's just not an option. Dos, thank you for ruining this coach's season. Don't know about that, Remy. Maybe back yourself in there, son. Lockie, this one from Lockie, ranked 129 overall. But Brodin took this week. Does he play the straight bat, Hami? And Trey took plus a rookie to Walsh and Chincotta.
00:50:36
Speaker
to try and keep upgrading with value or just as he try and keep upgrading with values like Day and Feorini. I think Day is not a bad trading option there but I quite like Walsh just because of how scarcely owned he will be for those coaches high up. So I think there's merit in looking at that.
00:51:00
Speaker
John asks, who's the best under priced point of difference? Stado. Would you agree? I mean, all jokes aside, though, at this point, it probably has to be fair any being under priced and a point of difference. Earth to Stado. You didn't really ask me that question.
00:51:23
Speaker
Come on. We can't recommend fear any. Now, in a draft, if he's on the way of a wire, pick him up and go for the pump. It's like Himmelberg. There is this slight chance with Taylor out that Himmelberg would be there, but you need to bloody well see it, Doss. You need to see it first. Now, he is 530 odd. If he ends up being the number one CBA guy and pumps out 120,
00:51:53
Speaker
jump on buddy, jump on, he's only gonna be 550, get on it. But don't ruin your season on the hope that someone is gonna get a bump out of this. It's tough when it's under priced as well as point of difference. I think some of those points that are, some of those players that Harvey mentioned before, maybe it is a mules that's potentially under priced, what do you reckon on it? So sorry, just pose this question, mate. Why is he under priced? What, fair Annie?
00:52:25
Speaker
because he has not been playing the role under low time on ground and no midfield time. Yeah, so 71% last weekend for a 60, 74% this week with two gap for half a game 78.
00:52:42
Speaker
Tossi, there was on my list, there's actually others I didn't mention on my discounted premium section. And I did notice that Braden for Uranium is down 106,000 for the year. So that's going to give you some confidence in your trades.
00:52:57
Speaker
Thanks, Hami. Appreciate it, mate. You're always here to have my back. We should get you on more often. Trisso, currently have five rookies on field, being Sheeze, Jinbi, Ashcroft and Green. But would you offload a rookie, Hami, or trade a stocker, McGrath type first?
00:53:14
Speaker
I'd be inclined to trade a rookie, but depends if you can loop, like you might be able to loop a good score if you've got like a Matty Roberts top. Yeah, but look, it depends on who they all are, I suppose. Like you're reeled off a few rookies there that everybody's got anyway. So, I mean, Ashcroft, Chisel, Jinby, like, I wouldn't really stress too much about them, but it depends who the others are. Holmes, the stock is just a bit done, I'd say.
00:53:44
Speaker
Depends how you compare trading stocker with trading Fergus Green. I think that was the other one there. So it's probably green off first. Couple questions. Hang on. So you wouldn't trade Fergus Green after back to back 70s though. Like he's going to make another 40 to 50K hopefully. So in a year where cash gen is tight, I wouldn't be getting off green just yet. Good point. Bailey Humphrey with the Took injury. Holmes, he's too expensive now to be jumping on trolley.
00:54:13
Speaker
Yeah, no, not for us at the moment, he's too expensive and even when he did come in, he wasn't a scorer, he's got that impact vibe about him. So, no, not at the moment, in the future perhaps, but not now. But correct, he could see some increased numbers, increased centre bounce usage as well. Tay, Bont, Laird or Walsh, I'll go back to you, Holmsey as well. Bont, Laird or Walsh, who would you go out of those three options?
00:54:39
Speaker
That's a tough one. I think I would go Bont on price. I think he's 30 to 40k less expensive than Walsh and about a bit less than Laird. So Bont for price, but I think probably Laird is going to be the highest scorer out of the three of them for the rest of the year. So I suppose it's where your squad's at, but Bont is right for the picking this week, knowing that you aren't going to get his 148 though. And he has been putting up a bit of a flat average before that.
00:55:05
Speaker
Not much between them now, between bot and lead. There's only like 20 grand, not even at it I think. Yeah, why are you jumping at lead this week knowing that they've got Collingwood and Geelong, two of the tougher matchups for Inside Mids? You can probably get him for the same price or slightly less in a couple of weeks. Yeah, I'm straight after the Collingwood matchup. Let him go through the tough one, see what happens.
00:55:28
Speaker
His scoring has been a little bit up and down, but we are starting to get to the time of season where it suits his game style as it gets colder and wetter. But yeah, I'm going to let him go through the tough matchup, but I'm probably at that point where I'm only just starting to look at reacting to luxury trades next week.
00:55:54
Speaker
So LDU highly likely, if we get another performance like that, we'll be going to lead. Stado, you're on a roll, mate, and Robert here wants your opinion. Can we get the rookies ranked as to who goes out first out of Mackenzie, Jinby, Wilmot, Cowan and Van Rooyen? So this is the tough piece. So I'll give the example.
00:56:23
Speaker
that had to make a decision this week, Hollins or Mackenzie out.
00:56:28
Speaker
I decided to go Holland's out because I thought Mackenzie would get inside time with Day Out and Ward also being rested. He'd had a higher ceiling. He'd pumped out at 95 previously. I think Holland's best was 77.
00:56:53
Speaker
So that was wrong by 30 points. So that hurts you on the scoreboard. The problem and issue we have is it is called rookie roulette for a reason. You just don't know exactly what's going to happen. They're not as consistent as our premiums.
00:57:13
Speaker
So the reality is you actually force your hand by who you can take them to. So who's the right sell at the right time, which can be based on their break even. Mackenzie should be a priority now. He's given us effectively two scores and he's starting to lose cash and he's got a high break even.
00:57:38
Speaker
Ginby is getting very close. I think, let's take the 22 from Wilmot as a bit of a one-off. I think he can generate a bit more cash. Green's got a bit more cash in him. I think Peddler, if he gets any time on ground, has got more cash in him. So that's the way you should actually probably line them up.
00:58:02
Speaker
What I will say, Dossi, is that it might actually be dictated by selection this week. So if you've got a couple of rookies that are, they're out there, they're pretty much maxed out in price and they're looking to go backwards, say in Mackenzie, if Mackenzie ends up getting dropped, for example, then you might actually just hold off a week and maybe go one of those other players where their break-even is less, like, not as achievable, if that makes sense.
00:58:26
Speaker
I think that's right, probably look to go but at the same time it's a risky game with the rolling lockout and if they are dropped but they're in the extended squad and they end up coming up as a sub then that's when you have to jump. If Mackenzie's sub again and he can put up another sub 20 score then he's going to be below 400k and we've lost all that cash gen. So I'd really be looking for selection and making the call there but yeah.
00:58:52
Speaker
I'd be looking to get off Mackenzie personally. I think if he's not getting inside time this week or last week with no real day, real day comes back in, it's going to be even tougher and they are playing the Bulldogs. So if there's another sub pass score, you're in trouble. I was just going to say it probably depends also on who's on field for this guy because Mackenzie went down in value this year. All right. Should be traded out. Wilmot just got a 22.
00:59:20
Speaker
He's gonna go down in price got to go out, but if one of those two are on field for him That's who he should be trading out cuz he's got to go up good. Cool
00:59:29
Speaker
And I just, just preface it by saying one more thing Stado, and I know you're big on this, is that we can't lose sight of having to have players play for us in the buys as well. So that's why I'm actually a big no on trading Ruben Ginby. Yes, his break even is up there now, and maybe he might start to lose a little bit of cash, but he is so far entrenched in that Eagles best 22 with the way he's been playing in their injury list that we are going to need bodies around the buy. And if you're trading a Ginby down to someone,
00:59:57
Speaker
who's out in two weeks and you've lost that body at the buy. Yeah, a Seamus Mitchell, for example, then your buy structure and your squat around the buys can be pretty thin. And that's something I kind of fell into a bit of a trap next, last year, considering we've already lost to Chesa, long started to get injured. Who knows how long Davey's going to stay around for cow. And if we lose all these guys around the buy, then yeah, we're in serious trouble. So that's why I'm not looking to trade a Jinby or maybe even a Fergus green because green is in that best 22 as well.
01:00:27
Speaker
Yeah, great point. He also wanted to know Stado's opinion on the hold-off fold on Chase Jones. He answered that before. You're a fold, aren't you, Stado, for that one? Yeah, I will say selection will determine that. Because my first reaction is, no, I'm going to play this out for three or four weeks and see what happens. But that Collingwood then Geelong match up. And it's more reflective after the 37. Just looks really tough.
01:00:56
Speaker
and maybe I need to rethink that again but at the moment I'm a fold but if I end up with a heap of rookies out potentially LDU being out you know three minutes before the bloody game no doubt will be his goal
01:01:15
Speaker
not on the Thursday night. I think Louis just sent through there's a bit of talk that Brayshore might not be available this week so in doubt so if you've got Andy Brayshore and I'm sure plenty of coaches have all of a sudden you might have other issues and that's when you do make a mistake sometimes you get caught
01:01:38
Speaker
And that's why you should try and limit the risky picture have because the more risky picture have and the less that succeed.
01:01:50
Speaker
unless you're just constantly trying to fix up errors rather than take it to the next step. So, look, there's a bit of a risk in the guy I'm bringing in this week, but it's Zach Budders. So we're talking someone that we know that can score, someone that's got a good role, and someone that's got a great run. You might say he plays the style, well, he's at risk of getting injury, absolutely, but I think he's got as much scoring power as Connor.
01:02:17
Speaker
and the potential that he's a great pick up but I'm comfortable that I'm picking up butters and I might be keeping him for the rest of the year. We should probably say that you already have Will Day in that as in for the same price. Yeah.
01:02:36
Speaker
Cat wants to know, harm me, Sicily or Anderson. So a guy that we probably haven't spoken about much to do with on the sun side, but in all honesty, probably one that I'm even maybe higher on in terms of those ceiling scores is Noah Anderson just getting a heap of footy in the midfield. But Cat, when it comes down to Sicily versus
01:02:57
Speaker
Anderson, Sicily coming up against the dogs this week as well, which he had I think a 150 on in round 23 last year, Hami. So which way would you go in that snow? It's a bit hard to tell because we don't know who is trading out to get there because ones are back and ones are mid. But yeah, the Sicily against the Bulldogs is not a bad play. But I mean, there's a risk with his role that he plays key back like a lockdown back and that hasn't changed. So but he looked good last week.
01:03:24
Speaker
He'll probably put up some ripping scores throughout the course of the year, but I'll probably just say neither, actually, does he?
01:03:33
Speaker
The one thing, Dossie, I just will mention about Noah Randerson, because he is a bit of a name on people's radars this year. And he actually, if you take out that 159 that he had against St Kilda, which Stado touched on earlier, he's only got a high score of 107 for the year. So he isn't really putting up the scores. And with that score and his price, he's priced around that sort of 102-ish range as it is. So you might just be getting what you pay for there.
01:03:58
Speaker
And he's also averaging 73 CBA's for the year. So it's not as if he's going to jump to 95 and get a big bump.
01:04:08
Speaker
Good call, yeah, saw him on the wing a couple of times in that last quarter, the mysterious last quarter, where, yeah, Swallow, Fairany were in there. Anderson was on the wing a couple of times to let those guys on the inside. What's the price of Swallow? Can I just ask? No, Stado. $700,000. I looked at it earlier today. Pure mid, too. Pure mid. They don't love some David Swallow. Oh, you've got to get yourself some Swallow.
01:04:37
Speaker
Just a couple of other names that Fabio wants to talk about, along with Noah Anderson, who I think we just talked about. Locky, Neo and Chad Warner. Throw them in the mix as the under-priced guys' homesy. Would you throw them in the mix as guys' potential to target?
01:04:54
Speaker
Ah, to be honest Doss, Lockie Neal was someone that was on my radar, but the more the season continues on and the more that, you know, the data trends are now, you know, pretty much set. Brisbane just aren't playing fantasy friendly football. You've had Dunkley drop off a cliff. You've had Neal drop off a cliff. You've had McClugage drop off a cliff.
01:05:13
Speaker
It's really tough to go there. I'm not sure they're playing a brand that's going to allow any of those players to be top eight mids, which we need them to be as trading targets. So I wouldn't be touching a lucky Neil. And I think it's just the same for Chad Warner. He's just been so up and down. He puts on a run of tons and then he has a floor of 50. So yeah, whether he gets that attention or whether he just goes quiet in games, I just think he's just someone you're not going to touch because the scores are going to be up and down.
01:05:39
Speaker
Yeah, and just to touch on that, the Lions this year, I remember, you know, I'd have a go at the Suns regularly last year being the worst fantasy scoring team outside of North Melbourne, essentially, last year. I think they were 7-8th or 6-8th, maybe West Coast. I think West Coast were ahead of them.
01:05:56
Speaker
This year the Lions 16th overall for fantasy scoring averages so far. So they're only ahead of the Kangaroos and actually the Power who are dead last this year 18th in team fantasy points. So obviously some is scheduled dependent as Stado has said he reckons Port coming into a good run. They're probably going to up their fantasy output potentially.
01:06:20
Speaker
But yeah, Lions just not a fantasy friendly game this year at all. It seems like they've turned into that Gold Coast Sun system of just get the ball forward as quick as possible, that old sort of Tigers model, I guess, if you will, Stado.
01:06:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's just an interesting you say that and we obviously just a quarter of the way through Port have had Brisbane, Collingwood, Adelaide, Sydney Bulldogs and then Eagles. So they went ham against the Eagles and pretty good against the Bulldogs. But the first four were really tough match ups.
Port's Midfield Rotation Impact
01:06:57
Speaker
Just on port, look, I quite like the butter's pick, stato, that you've flagged, but they are a five-way rotation in their midfield. So with those CBAs, there's always five of them, and that's without Travis Boak even getting any. So if you compare that against some of the other teams that are running a hard three, or most of them run four, it's sort of, it's just a bit of an extra, you know, spread in the CBAs. Nevermind a hard three.
01:07:27
Speaker
We'll just get through just a couple more questions here guys, we've already gone past now. So Russ, a double down grade, a double rookie downgrade looks like the right play for him. So Mackenzie and Wilmot. I'll tell you what last week it was. Yeah. Well, um, so he's talking about it, doing it this week with Chincotta and Mitchell in for Mackenzie and Wilmot. We talked about how risky they are.
01:07:51
Speaker
Okay, well in that case, with LDU stinking it back up, stinking it up, would you get Day back in your side for LDU? Gets him 97k, Day's got the low breakeven, but is it too early for a play like this? Who wants to take that one?
01:08:09
Speaker
Well, I can do that. And I'm just leaving it for a couple more weeks. I mean, it seems like every week there's something with him, but he did get a knock on the knee during the game that as well. So look, yeah, I mean, yeah, you could. All right. Two more guys. Trelora genuine option, Holmsey.
01:08:31
Speaker
Oh, far out, he's been good, hasn't he? He's no liver this week. You'd think he's just going to score well against the Hawks. He's the one that's had that real midfield bump with Dunkley going out. I think we've kind of missed the boat on him. And if he is, just keeps putting up these numbers when it does get to true luxury upgrade towards after the buyers, then yeah, maybe you look at him, but he's just always an injury risk and he's not someone I'd look to touch at this time of the year because if he goes out, you're in trouble.
01:09:01
Speaker
Maybe Baz Smith coming back in as well. WTF is... Hopefully we get Vintage McRae this week, Dossie, with no limit. Oh yeah. Maybe we can get more than 50% CDAs far out. Aw, he'll kill it. I watched that game. I watched that game. That's the best game I've seen someone play from a half forward flank. He was incredible for a 99. You couldn't have asked for much more. I know. WTF is Duncan's role.
01:09:28
Speaker
What's Duncan's role? Not good enough to be in your fantasy team. He's such a high risk anyway, so high risk and not performing on the scoreboard and dropping cash. He wouldn't go near him. Well on that note, let's get to Stado's Fossils 5.
Fossils 5 Strategy and Underpriced Premiums
01:09:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty simple this week. Number one, after number two, last. Number three, weak. Number four, avoid. Number five, phosphive. My two players that I brought in last week combined score didn't match up one of my outs, which was violence. So we'll avoid my suggestion and I'll just say,
01:10:25
Speaker
for the week. The under-priced premiums are your target. There's a little bit of cash, not a lot of cash, a little bit of cash in our rookies, which allows us to get the low 700 figures coming in. So you're talking your butters mentioned the day before, probably mentioned McLuggage, but I just wouldn't go with McLuggage yet. But
01:10:53
Speaker
and it's because of Brisbane's game style and their scoring. So I think the two priorities are those two. The only thing I'd say is they're both, they're a forward and defender and I reckon we've been bringing in a lot of these players and not many midfielders. So does anyone know a midfielder in the 700k they're actually interested in?
01:11:23
Speaker
Mine's Jay Simpkin. Mine's Jay Simpkin when he comes down. So when he comes back in, he plays that game. He's going to drop further. Hopefully we get him down to 750K. He was flying in that first quarter before he got injured. He had 48 points in that first quarter. So he hasn't been fantastic to start the year, but he's definitely someone I'll look at when he comes in and bottoms out in price.
01:11:47
Speaker
Yeah, well both Dave and Butters are mid-sum, aren't they? Yes, we can play mid-sum. We could be plying them.
01:11:55
Speaker
So that's where the targets will go. Selection will decide where the rookies are. There are a couple with low break-evens, we've mentioned them both, but noting there's two players coming back in Colton's defence over the next two or three weeks, so be mindful of that so the job security's not there. And Hawks were a little bit unsure. And the only thing I'll say about Mitchell's scoring
01:12:23
Speaker
and he's had two scores in the 60 which is fantastic and I'll have to double check the exact data but I'm pretty sure both games he's had a 30 slant 40 scoring quarter. Now to me that makes it sound like his scoring is unsustainable.
01:12:46
Speaker
Yeah, he had 42 points in that last quarter the other day. This is what I was sort of saying before. He got a couple of intercept marks and stuff at like the back end of the game. Yeah, 42 points of his 68. Okay, can I throw a midfielder in the low 700s and just see what the
01:13:07
Speaker
The sorts are that the player has a midfield run of Richmond, Melbourne, West Coast, Brisbane, Western Bulldogs and Adelaide before the bye. Manny Rau. Yes, get around him. My boy, my all go boys. What do you think? Hmm.
01:13:35
Speaker
Dead silence. It's the same as the Feorini question. Move on from Gold Coast Mids. Rogers. On that note, we will keep a lid on Feorini this week. I think everyone sort of mentioned it. Don't pick him. Don't do it. I'm really offered. I'm against it myself. But I do hope that you guys have a great week. We'll keep the lid on completely. I've got nothing more to say about Feorini in this episode. But have a good week. Trading.
01:14:04
Speaker
And we'll see you next week. Thanks, everyone.
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