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We make a team with TWO-TIME top-10 finisher Jon Harmey | #PODPOD

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TWO-time top-10 finisher Jon Harmey, joins The Statesman, Lewy, and Rusty Tonsils (Dos) to build an entire AFL Fantasy Classic team from scratch. But there's a twist! It's a draft-style format, where each host can go any direction they want, with every pick changing the dynamics of the structure! 

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Transcript

Introduction and Setup

00:00:02
Speaker
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00:00:17
Speaker
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's your boy, Dossie, back on this Wednesday night, February 15th, 2023. And on this podcast, we're building a team from scratch. That's right, a salary cap team from scratch. And to help us do this, we have some fantastic minds in the fantasy community. As always, we've got the great man. It's the fossil, the fossil you know and love, Statesman. How are you, mate?
00:00:45
Speaker
And it's pretty late in the day, it is Wednesday, although Dossie thinks it's Friday, and Stado's been working hard, so his dinner's gonna be about midnight the rate this is going, but it's great to be back, Dossie. Yes, had to redo the intro for the first time this season due to me saying it was Friday, but let's move on, because Louis is here as well.

Guests and Sponsorship

00:01:06
Speaker
How are you, Lou? You're going alright mate, pre-season preparation, as always, going full steam.
00:01:11
Speaker
Um, well, thanks mate. I thought you did a decent job on the intro though. Those vocal chords were just hanging on there. I thought you were about to crack. Yeah. Honestly, lately the golden tonsils are struggling like the rusted tonsils. Yeah. Like I've managed to get on the traders this week. I think tune in probably tomorrow. I think it's coming out. And honestly, halfway through on the day boo, I think I've just crumbled under pressure and I'm still, still struggling the day after.
00:01:41
Speaker
I heard a rumour that your plug for us was just magnificent Aussie, is this true?
00:01:48
Speaker
Yeah, look, nobody will be tuning into the pod pod, I don't think from now on following the episode. Unfortunately, there was lots of talk about Hilux winning, which is the brand and is the truth. But unfortunately, I don't think too many people will be coming on board the pod pod. If they are, welcome aboard. And to join us as well, we have another. So let's get the credentials out there too. Stado, five time top 100 finisher, got a couple of hats in his, where do you put your hats Stado? In the kit bag, in the wheel bag, apparently.
00:02:18
Speaker
for Jonny. Great. And then we've also got Hami, who's coming in with two top 10 finishes. Hami, welcome to the show, mate. You're our super sub for 2023. How's the preparations going for you? Thanks, Dossie. Yep. No, I'm going well, thanks. Yeah, the 2022, 559th ranked coach. So I'm looking to go, well, at least 557 spots higher because you've obviously got number one wrapped up. So no, preseason is going well, thanks.
00:02:48
Speaker
Great to hear, mate. And thank you for joining us on this episode. We've got to thank our usual guest, our usual co-host Kyle for his contributions. Usually he's just having the week off this week. Congratulations to Kyle. He and his partner have welcomed
00:03:03
Speaker
a new bub to the world. So congratulations to Kyle. He's just having this week off. He's going to try and join us when he can over the next few weeks, but obviously a very busy time in their lives. So big shout out to Holmesy and congratulations to Papa Holmes on this week's podcast. We'll be creating a team from scratch.
00:03:21
Speaker
Plus, the listeners have got their questions in for Hami to get a new perspective on the Pod Pod this pre-season. Just to remind you, as always, this episode of the Pod Pod brought to you by the Keeper League, go over to keeperleague.com.au. Not just for your keeper leagues, though. Plenty of stuff for your classic teams, including CBA's kick-in trends when the season starts, of course. You've got the State League fantasy scores. I've been checking out plenty of those Draft A fantasy scores as well.
00:03:47
Speaker
the archive there to check previous years so you can go back at check out the 2021 fantasy season maybe back to see when Will Phillips was playing whenever he was drafted check out his fantasy scores from back then because he will finally probably have a good run on it this year I've got AFL fantasy projections much much more use the code podpod at sign up don't forget to use the code podpod at sign up for 20% off the link will be in the podcast description

Draft Format and Initial Picks

00:04:15
Speaker
All right, let's get on to what we're doing first, which will be an absolute fun exercise. I'm looking forward to this. We're going to be creating a team from scratch, doing it in a little bit of a different way. We're going to be going draft style format, but creating one singular classic team together as a unit. This way, the way it's going to work, we're going to have a starting salary cap of $13.75 million. So that's taking into account. We're just going to fill the bench slots.
00:04:41
Speaker
We've mostly gone with 200K basement price players, but we've also added in a Josh Weddle at 266K for Hawthorne. We've gotten Olly Hollands over at Carlton for 280K. Just those two little bit more expensive rookies to give a bit of a more realistic idea of our remaining salary when we are building this team. Hopefully we don't go overpriced. We'll see how we go in that and we'll work that out if it happens. But we're going to be doing this snake draft style
00:05:09
Speaker
We decided the draft order pre-pod, it's Dossi at number one, Stato two, Louis three, Hami at four, obviously going back the other way, Snake Draft, that'll be Hami, first pick going back. So there is one wrinkle to mention though. We each get to veto one player during this process and replace them with our own pick. It's only one.
00:05:31
Speaker
It's only one player throughout the whole process and to reiterate as well, you can't veto a veto. So once you do it, it's done. Stato. RT, that's you, Rusty Tonsils. Now, can I just ask the question, have you created this model that there's only one veto because you're actually drafting here?
00:05:56
Speaker
Yeah, we initially started with two vetoes, but I'm like, I think there needs to be more weight to put on the veto. I think only one should be allowed. Yes, it was to maybe sneak one through to the keeper of my fav picks this year. Because what we should have done is there's 22 picks. There's three of us. We should have had seven vetoes each. So hopefully you can have one good pick.
00:06:21
Speaker
All right, stay there. Well, if there's any other questions from the crew, I think we'll start with our first pick with Dossi. And look, I'm not going to come out spitting fire. I'm not going to do anything like that. I might just go with an easy pick and I'm going
00:06:36
Speaker
I'm going to start with the most, one of the most obvious picks this year in the rookie, Will Ashcroft. So I think he's a pretty obvious pick in the midfield. I'm going to leave the heavy lifting to you guys. We'll chuck him just in the midfield for now. We'll shuffle him around as needed, but I'll just sit him at say an M7ish range for now. And any arguments with Will Ashcroft coming into the squad? Surely not.
00:07:00
Speaker
I just want to say, shouldn't we actually go through the defensive line first? Let's get rid of the ugly stuff and roll into the midfield. I'm not wasting my first pick on a defender, sorry. Do you want me to do the hard stuff? No, I'm happy.
00:07:21
Speaker
That's all right. No one's going to pick a defender. They'll be the last six picked. Dossie, it's going to take a brave coach to go against Will Ashcroft this year, especially with everything that's coming out. I think just we should just touch on how you've autofilled the bench here, Dossie, and just some of those names there, because that's going to affect our cap.
00:07:41
Speaker
OK, sure. I'll just go through. So we did try to pick, you know, some names that have been thrown around this preseason. All of these guys are subject to change, which I think is the same case for pretty much every fantasy coach out there. I'll just start at the top. So our defensive two rookies on the bench right now, Josh Weddle.
00:07:58
Speaker
266k obviously. We mentioned that at the start. Darcy Wilmot is there on the bench. Oliver Hollins comes in the midfield. Again, he's the other player we decided to go. He's 280,000. We've got Campbell Cheser in the midfield as our second bench option. Again, we've heard there's injury concerns from him, but we're just having him there as a placeholder for now.
00:08:18
Speaker
hot topic this process in Campbell Cheshire. Max Heath, now Louis that was your suggestion in the ruck there just due to all the ruck stocks going down at Saints correct? Yeah a lot of carnage with the Saints and there just seems to be a ridiculous amount of games where the Saints fall on the Sunday, certainly in the first 10 weeks anyway. So if we're gonna have to play an R3 who's gonna be a red dot then I don't mind him at the top of my list.
00:08:45
Speaker
I've picked up Fergus Green, just the 25 year old coming from, I believe it was the dogs, coming from the dogs basement price rookie, obviously 25 years old. I haven't heard too much about him this pre-season obviously, but I've just been having him sort of as a placeholder. Also got Angus Sheldrick from Sydney Swans as that 200K mid forward. Just a fantastic kind of rookie junior scorer Sheldrick and was kind of touted as
00:09:13
Speaker
a big star of the future, but whether or not he gets a game in horses, loaded squad at the moment, it's probably pretty questionable as well. And then finally, just rounding it out as our utility bench option, we have the 200K James Cheetos from the Gold Coast Suns. So, all right, we've got Will Ashcoff now on field for us. Now he's at that 298K. As we said, no arguments having him. He's the, you know, essentially should have been the number one pick in the draft if he wasn't a father-son there.
00:09:43
Speaker
Lock and load. Second pick in the draft for us. Here we have, I believe, it's Stado. Take us away, mate. Yeah, I'm going to go Josh Dunkley, and I think he explains himself. Move him all the way to F1. Obviously, just rolling into Brisbane had only about 50% of the CBAs last year at the Western Bulldogs. I think we all see him as potentially the highest scorer in the game. So you've just got to lock him away in your team.
00:10:15
Speaker
Yeah, again, we're just going through the easy ones to start with. I wonder who's going to be first cab off the ranks with going maybe a little bit different or maybe attacking that defensive line. Louis, is that going to be you at pick three here?
00:10:26
Speaker
No it's not mate, I think we may as well get some of the picks which seem obvious off the ranks straight away and I'm going to pick Rowan Marshall. In the ruck line we know why we love Rowan Marshall, he's never had the opportunity to be a sole ruck, not for a whole season anyway. When he has been given those duties he's excelled, I've got full confidence if he's got
00:10:49
Speaker
the main rock roll that he'll be a rock win that scores over a hundred for us this year and for that reason he comes in as value under priced and if he's going to be a top rock I think he's a no-brainer starter option. Right so we're definitely going with a premium rock in our rock line. Yeah I've been the

Controversial Picks and Vetoes

00:11:08
Speaker
same. Hami have you sort of toyed with any different structure in the rock line or and you're not going to argue with this pick though?
00:11:15
Speaker
Well, yes I have done, but look, Royal Marshall is in there for me at the moment. I think just the comments that he has made, the club has made, he's got a bit of confidence in his role at the moment. Right, Hami, take us away with your pick, mate.
00:11:30
Speaker
And you've got back to back, so if you want to just keep going, keep rolling. Yeah. Yeah, no, let's see it. Oh, look, I might as well do this thing because I can. I said I wasn't going to go to defender, but stuff it. I will. My first pick then, we'll put in Ruben Ginby in the back line. OK, so I'll save you a few dollars. You can waste a bit later on, Dossy boy. We need rookies to fill our team. I think there's
00:11:53
Speaker
He's been impressing them over in the West and even having a run through the midfield so I think that our defence is going to be a bit difficult and I think at the moment he looks like a fairly obvious pick.
00:12:07
Speaker
Yeah, no argument for me. I think he's like owned by nearly 50% of the competition now. The rookie from West Coast, Reuben Ginby, looks like he's got a pair of pipes on him for a young fellow as well. And exciting as a West Coast fan to see a few, a bit of youth coming through there. It's going to be exciting. So no arguments there. Harmony, take us away again with your next pick, mate. All right. Well, maybe I'll go.
00:12:31
Speaker
something a little bit different. How about Josh Kelly in the midfield just for a bit of a conversation topic here. Someone that there's a bit of uncertainty around the new coach coming in and what the game style may be but if you look at the CBA tendency had last year was pretty low and I think that he's going to have a bit of a more secure role through that midfield and I'll put him in for the time being and we'll see how we go with that one.
00:12:56
Speaker
In your ideal setup, Hami, would he be right up there towards the top of your midfield, as in an M1, M2, M3, or where are you kind of sitting him in this structure, or where would you ideally want him in this structure?
00:13:10
Speaker
He's more of the top end of the price limit that I've sort of been looking at in the midfield, yeah. So, yeah, he is one of the more expensive players I've been looking through there, I think I've said before. I'm not in love with the 110 plus priced players at the moment, so, yeah. All right. Louis, your next one, mate.
00:13:34
Speaker
My pick? Yeah, okay, so the rookies obviously dictate your structure, so I might go along that route as well. And this guy, while being rookie priced, isn't really a rookie, and that's Will Phillips. So he's had a couple of years in the system. I think he was the third fiddle behind Raoul and Anderson in his junior years as an under-ager, seriously impressed. Drafted as a pick three, played very little football.
00:14:02
Speaker
and just even personally watching him at the open training the other week I thought he looked really really solid and he should have a firm spot in that top or top 22 top 23 sort of range at north you'd hope so anyway so yep I'm gonna lock him in mate. When you're at the open training what sort of things were they doing was it a bit of match sim did he was he kind of working with the midfield group what can you tell us out of that insight that you had there?
00:14:26
Speaker
Look, there was a little small, very small amount of match seam and it was very stop start. But I could just tell that he had a very low center of gravity and the way that he worked inside the contest. He just looked like a footballer. So you can tell that he's had a few years in the in the competition being developed. And I think he'll hit the ground running in round one. Beautiful. Yeah. Sorry. I mean, to get distracted here, but any idea who was on the backflanks for the Kangaroos in match seam there, Louis?
00:14:53
Speaker
I don't, mate. They mixed it up quite a bit. Originally, they did have Tyron down there for a little while, but that's probably how to spanner. Put in the works. They've mentioned Drury as well, although I didn't see him back there. I'm getting the impression from North that Alistair Clarkson wants to try out a few different people in that halfback role and that they're all going to be a little bit more versatile than what they have been in the past.
00:15:18
Speaker
Sorry Darcy, play on. Nah, one to watch for sure. We'll get to our next pick in at Stado. Mate, you're on the clock.
00:15:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'll go Tom Mitchell. I think we can by the look at our M1. I think saving money is a bit of the plan, so we can have a bit of depth. So Tom Mitchell, obviously we know his ceiling, but he's going to a system that probably won't allow him to get there, but I think he's a 105 to 112 guy under this system, and that's good enough for me.
00:15:55
Speaker
All right, well, I'm gonna go and get our first premium defender and I'm interested to see what you guys think. I know there's a lot of variety of opinion on this pick, but I've gone back and forth and back and forth and I'm gonna, unless I get a veto out there and somebody's not happy with this, I'm gonna go with Sam Docherty at day one.
00:16:14
Speaker
So at 977K, yes, it's going to cost you a bucket load to have him sitting there. But from what I can say, I think we're discussing pre-show, there's so many question marks around so many defenders. With Sam Docherty, at least you know what you're going to get. I feel like there's a lot of, you know,
00:16:33
Speaker
you're probably not going to, there's not too much range that you can work with in the defensive line in terms of upside. So I feel like taking that more of a risk on Docherty who does cost a fair bit more is just really going to eventually pay itself off. He's also potentially going to play a bit of midfield time with, with Sam Walsh missing that first kind of month of football.
00:16:55
Speaker
which could really get him off to a ripping start and leave coaches behind if they don't have him. He's definitely a top six regardless, so I'm feeling pretty confident having him at D1. Maybe let's talk about this a little bit. Stado, have you got thoughts on Dokka at D1? Yeah, not going to veto because I still don't know what I'm doing on defensive line, but he's too expensive for me. I actually put him as the potential burner in redraft leagues because I think he will go
00:17:25
Speaker
in one season model in the first round. I think there's much better options at where his value is. So to me, you can't have too many of the top end costing players. So to me, you can only really have one of docketty, steel and tuk. Otherwise, you just haven't got too much play, too much depth, et cetera. My model was working around steel at the moment.
00:17:53
Speaker
and he's still expensive, but I think he's got some upside. So I struggle for docketty, but like you, I have no idea what I'm doing in my defence, so I won't veto. Speak for yourself mate. Can we veto it any time, does he? Has he like in a few picks time if I decide I don't like it? I think so, yeah. Oh really? Okay.
00:18:11
Speaker
I was thinking I was thinking otherwise the vetoes they'll all come to and they'll all come at once at the end there mate just a warning boys just a warning you're gonna make dossie very insecure if they if he knows we can veto his pick I was hoping I'd get away with it at one point like
00:18:32
Speaker
No, I think I've been pretty good so far. You should just so far so far move on You've picked twice doves. I get to go again Yeah, I'm interested I'm going so vanilla, but I might save a few loose ones for later, but I'm gonna just go Tim Toronto I'm pretty big on him. Just having a big year. I really think that he's
00:18:56
Speaker
one of these fantasy stars that we have in in our generation kind of thing and I feel like he has been actually curtailed a little bit due to the Due to his situation. I don't I'm not too scared of the Richmond gameplay and holding him back But I'm interested in the thoughts of you harming. Are you into picking Timmy T this season?
00:19:16
Speaker
Yeah I am. I quite like it. I mean he looks as fit as he's ever been. He has scored a high average previously as far as career best goes. He's got a ceiling. He's going to be playing in the midfield at this point in time. I'm like there's a bit of time to go still obviously but I'm pretty keen on him.
00:19:36
Speaker
All right, and just to update everyone, listeners, now that I've taken my next pick, so we're up to basically the third round here of our four picks, so $7.56 million remaining salary. Just at our defensive line, we've got Docherty and Ruben Ginby at the moment. In our midfield, we've got Josh Kelly, Tom Mitchell at the top end, and then Will Ashcroft and Will Phillips.
00:19:57
Speaker
sitting at that sort of M7, M8 region at the moment. We've got Rowan Marshall as our only rock, and then we've got Josh Dunkley and Tim Taranto, the next pick in this team. Stado, back to you.
00:20:11
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to save a bit of money here and I'm going to pick our F6. I'm going to pick Luckey Peddler, third season in the system, interrupted with some injuries last year. But he is a ball magnet. He's going to be playing off the half forward line and spending some time in the midfield. He's just going to make us some good coin and we'll pump out some decent score. So plonk him in at 213 at our F6.
00:20:41
Speaker
Hopefully he can work his way up the ground and he's not just a stay at home forward pocket for us, that's the only thing. So I'm not sure whether he'd be your F6 or if he's looking at the bench.
00:20:52
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with the Army. I'm not game enough to field him yet, not until I see something, just because even Josh Rochelle last year struggled quite a bit at times when he was camped up in that forward line for Adelaide. But look, he's been a few years in the system. He's basically basement. And as Stado touched on a couple of weeks ago, he's been sort of viding his time, if that's even a word, in the sandfall and putting up some decent scores. So I think
00:21:20
Speaker
I think that's probably a good spot for him if he shows it in the pre-season. He's got that something for the midfield that Adelaide doesn't have. He's got that burst of speed, that break speed, so he's going to be getting time in there.
00:21:35
Speaker
Yep. And considering, I guess also you could look at the positive of the fact that they trialed, even though it may have been injury related, but they did trial someone like a Ben Key. So you had a pretty big share in that midfield forward later in the season to trial a few things as well. So maybe they initially give peddler a go and see how it goes as well at the start of the season. All right. Uh, that's over to you, Lou, for your next pick, Matt.
00:21:57
Speaker
Yeah so I might plug a few more holes in defence and I'm going to pick Elliot Yeo. He's been a fantasy gun in previous years and fortunately, well fortunately for us anyway, he comes in extremely under priced because he just hasn't been able to get on the park enough over the last couple of years.

Finalizing the Team

00:22:15
Speaker
By all reports he's killing the pre-season, he's playing a mixed role between midfield and defence, half back.
00:22:22
Speaker
although it does sound like he'll be playing a bit more midfield than halfback and I think with the struggles we're going to have in defence, picking Elliott Yo at 625 just presents some really good value and hopefully we can hold him up into the buyers and there's probably a fleeting chance that maybe we can hold him even past that if he does live up to his potential because we know he can score.
00:22:46
Speaker
This feels like so much, I mean, it's a shame that we haven't had a veto yet. I feel like we're all group thinking here, but it is how the pre-season goes, isn't it? You all just end up having very similar thoughts on, yeah, couldn't, couldn't, couldn't do it. Don't worry, your picks are coming with vetoing soon. Don't worry. Hami, do you, do you like the idea of an Elliott Yeo in the 600 K range, starting him in your team?
00:23:12
Speaker
Look, maybe we're picking off a few of the vanilla East players so far, but I do like Elliott Yo. I think that he's priced at about 70, isn't he? Let's have a look. Yeah, about 70. So I think that's a great price bracket. Like between the sort of 50 and 70, I think if they're valued, we're confident they're going to go 20, 25 points higher.
00:23:34
Speaker
especially with that defence where we're really battling to find some value. I think he's going to be a good pick for us. Plus also, you know, track watches match. Sim is in the midfield, guys. So how could we turn that down? Back to back picks for you now, Hami, take it away. Oh, a bit nervous now.
00:23:53
Speaker
Well I think we're going to need another rookie in the midfield. OK. So I'll take one. I'll take Cam McKenzie from the Hawks. I mean he's got a little bit of a right up from Merced Mitchell so we'll put him in for the moment. I mean I think.
00:24:11
Speaker
probably fairly solid thing we're going to need at least three in that midfield so we'll finish that up unless anybody else wants to chip in and hmm let's have a look
00:24:27
Speaker
Maybe I'll chuck out Tom Stewart as a name. He's somebody that I've been having a little bit of a look at recently. I don't know that the cats play a lot of their home games late with GMHPA and that's sort of where he seems to be a better scorer but I think he's got as good a ceiling as anybody. He's a couple of those pumping scores last year. He does have an injured score in there as a 44, was a little bit interrupted throughout the course of the season so
00:24:57
Speaker
Let's see how we feel about that boys. Tom Stewart's 44 was off 25% game time.
00:25:08
Speaker
Yeah, are we getting with Dokkati and Stewart and now Jo? I mean, I'm just, you know, just brainstorming here, but we're obviously going to have to go real cheap with the other two. Are we comfortable, are we comfortable doing that in our defence, having, you know, already kind of loaded up there? Is there enough? I mean, the next couple of picks will be pretty telling, but do we think, Stado, that there's enough options in that sort of range now that we've, you know, loaded up at the top end in defence?
00:25:33
Speaker
Well you've got your own pick there Dossy. I forgot about the post Vito. I don't know about this.
00:25:42
Speaker
So, and what all three of us are leaning towards mate is you spent big early. But I will say what's protected us here is actually going the third rookie in the midfield. That's created and allowed to spend. So I've had many structures where there's only two rookies on field in the midfield. So our spending's not out of control yet, Dossie.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yes, and whilst you guys were doing that, I was just getting some stats for us on Cam McKenzie, the rookie numbers for you there, John. I mean, we've got 86.6 fantasy points in the Sandringham Dragons last year from sort of that 23, 24 disposals, three marks, four tackles. So, bit of an inside-outside player from what they say here. He was the pick seven, went to the Hawks. I think, yeah, like you said, he's getting good reps from the coach, so he's gonna be,
00:26:41
Speaker
our third rookie in the midfield. All right. He's at a high price point, though, to 88. I mean, he could end up being Bailey Humphrey or Elijah Heward if they show a bit more of you in the preseason. I think by way of a placeholder is as good as any. Yeah. And I think what you're just alluding to as well is that we're probably going to have to spend up to get that good job security in a rookie that's on field as well, which we're just putting in the price there just helps us be a bit more flexible using this structure.
00:27:10
Speaker
OK, Louis, it's back to you. Yeah, mate, I'm going to pick a mid price in the midfield because I think those are the ones that potentially are competition winning picks. And I'm not saying this guy is one. He's at quite high ownership now. But I think Dom Sheed following the trend of picking high ownership players at this point, I think Dom Sheed is just
00:27:36
Speaker
really good value comes in priced at 67. I don't think anyone will argue that if not at least an 85 guy and plus with all the opportunity at west coast it seems like he's going to be getting center bounces. I can just see 90 plus written all over this bloke and we know he's got a ceiling as well so
00:27:54
Speaker
Just to tack on to that too, he's got quite high time on ground in previous years as well, so if that can trend the same way, then I think Dom Sheed is a little bit of a gimme in the midfield if you're looking towards a mid-pricer. Yeah, I don't know if there's going to be any arguments around here. I know, Stato, you've been a big fan of Sheed, haven't you?
00:28:15
Speaker
Yeah, I have, and noting he's not a keeper, but I'm really interested to see how that midfield looks in the practice game. So I'm just really careful there because Sheed has let us down when he hasn't been playing the inside role. So we've got to be really careful with that. Stato, you're up next too, mate. Take it away.
00:28:41
Speaker
Okay, so I'm going to go, we are pod pods, so I'm going to go a pod for the pod pod. And it's probably the first real one here. And I'm looking at a person that we know he can score, we know he's ceiling, and I think he's about ready to really put it together. And that's LDU. Yes.
00:29:06
Speaker
Love this from Eustado, huge. $824K. He'll cost you $93K. His runner home showed us a little bit last year. His last five was $102K and showed us a bit of a ceiling as well. So it's a potential to be $105K plus. So if you've got someone
00:29:32
Speaker
that can get around that mark. He will be sort of fringe top 10, but certainly with around 15 by, he's someone you can just plonk in there, see how the Clarko game plan is. And I think we all can acknowledge that Clarko has helped fantasy coaches over the years. So if you think there's only one time Tom Mitchell's got the best out of fantasy footy and that's under Clarko.
00:30:02
Speaker
Big call. Is anyone going to go against LDU? Look, Dave, he's a uni-ac. I've got to say, I'm a big fan. So if I'm a big fan, is there any worry amongst the group? Louis, any concern with LDU, the fact that I'm pretty big on him as well? Well, yeah, that goes straight to the concern. That is a concern. So I'm taking him out of my team right now. Vito-ing yourself, Stado.
00:30:28
Speaker
No, I like Luke Davis-Uniac and he's a player who a lot have pegged for a breakout that actually already has in-built value built in with him because of that injury affected game earlier in 2022. The only downside, and it's been smashed lately, is that he probably will be the tag target.
00:30:49
Speaker
You could you could say that a lot about a lot of players and when you're coming in priced at 93 I don't think it's as much of a concern and I'm not sure that North Melbourne are going to be you know tagged out of a game constantly and probably not after half-time when other sides of six goes up and
00:31:07
Speaker
I was going to say that I'm hearing all these players are being tagged. Anybody who's half decent is being tagged in some of the commentary that we're seeing around at the moment. Hawthorne, North Melbourne, Adelaide, these aren't the top of the table teams that we need to slow down. I'm just not convinced it's going to happen.
00:31:29
Speaker
Yeah and on top of that, a lot of teams don't tag until the second half of the year so a lot of them come out, they play to win. And then once the ladder sort of settles and there's a bit of strategy to where you sort of are on the ladder of course and some teams choose to play not to lose and that's when the tagging comes out and when players do get restricted.
00:31:50
Speaker
I think over the first certainly six rounds of football, while the tag is still going to be around, I don't think it's such a concern as what some are making it out to be.
00:32:03
Speaker
OK, well, after that, Bombshell by Stado bringing in LDU. I'm going to, look, I really want to just keep going with my vanilla picks here, but I'm going to have to bust out the Vito. You guys brought in the post-Vito. I'm bringing it out, and Josh Kelly sitting at M1A, doing it for me, boys. I'm going to Vito that right away, and remember there's no being in Vito. Can we Vito your Vito?
00:32:31
Speaker
There's no better and better. I said that at the start. You can warm back the tape. Can I select him again when it comes back?
00:32:40
Speaker
Who's going to go the revenge doc, Vito? I'm bringing in Darcy Parrish. I'm vetoing Darcy Parrish. I'm bringing in Darcy Parrish. No, I told you, you can't veto a Vito. Parrish is in the squad. 888K. Look, Josh Kelly, I bring him in every year. Every year he lets me down. He went at 115 like once for 18 games or whatever. The team was looking good and then Darcy comes.
00:33:09
Speaker
you
00:33:11
Speaker
Look, I'm doing that. And then, you know what? I'll explain it a bit more. Darcy Parrish, he's only priced at 100. We obviously saw him go on that monster stretch a couple of years ago. And then last year, he started to get hot around that mid-season when he started to get a bit more of a role and then eventually did the calf, unfortunately. But new coach, hopefully just goes straight into that midfield. He's a ball magnet. He's a guy that can go 40 plus disposals. He's one of the few guys in the competition
00:33:40
Speaker
Like your Locky Neils, obviously your Tom Mitch was in the past that can just regularly rack up 35 to 40 disposals at will. There's not many guys that can do it. He's one of them and I just think he's 25 years old coming into his own and at a price at 100, I don't know, looking at Josh Kelly there. Yes, he's also got a new coach, but
00:34:02
Speaker
just have a bit more confidence in in parish here boys and apologies you know you know it was coming but it's it's happened so any other complaints on the parish pick lucy lucy i thought you could be underpriced but he could be underpriced but he's got a new coach and a heap of midfielders at Essendon apparently so it's a bit of a watch
00:34:25
Speaker
Yeah, look, I'm the same as Hami. I can't hit the Darcy Parish pick because I really like it. But there's too many concerns there for me to probably start him, especially with Zach Merritt also occupying probably a 105 plus average in that same side. Oh, he's sitting at M1. I'm rolling him out, Darcy.
00:34:43
Speaker
He's sitting at M1 for us now boys. My second pick, I'm going to go back to back. Charlie Constable is coming into that defensive line.
00:35:00
Speaker
Bit of a hype train this week. We saw some information about him playing halfback. That was enough for me to jump on. Been a massive Constable fan for many years. 332K. Barely had a run at the Sun since arriving there with Stewie Jew. Thanks so much, Stewie. Got the 18 points last year in like 10% time and ground that Stewie gave him. Thanks again, Stewie.
00:35:23
Speaker
He was previously a midfielder at Geelong, played a lot of VFL unfortunately there as well, but he's a higher points per minute guy. There's a talk that he's moving to the backline. He's a big body. He's like 190 centimetres plus. So, you know, if they play him in that sort of role, apparently there's some word of some distributing out of the backline. I don't know if I see that, but if he's there, he's just a points per minute guy. 332K, he kind of fits that mould that we've gone super heavy in the backline unless a veto occurs, but
00:35:51
Speaker
Charlie Constable, does anyone like him at that 330k or state some concerns again from you? No, I just want to ask a question. How many positions left to fill and what's our bank?
00:36:07
Speaker
Alright, so we got 3.86 million remaining salary. We've got one defender, one midfielder, one rock, and three forwards. So six positions left, the forward line, obviously the slightest position right now. I'll just run through who we've got.
00:36:24
Speaker
Quickly, Docherty, Stewart, Elliot Yeo, Constable and Ginby in our defensive line. We've got Parrish, Mitchell, LDU, Dom Shade, Will Ashcroft, Cam McKenzie and Will Phillips as our rookies there. And then Rowan Marshall at The Rock, Josh, Dunkley, Taranto and Luke Peddler in the forward line. And we are back to you, Stado.
00:36:46
Speaker
Yeah, so I think we can all agree Midfield's not looking crash hot. And I feel we need to have a captain option with that. Tom Mitchell might be, but I think Tom Mitchell's ceiling is a little bit capped with the system he's playing in.
00:37:06
Speaker
So I'm debating whether we go one of the big boys or we

Listener Q&A

00:37:12
Speaker
go for a bit of value who is captaincy and should have some upside. So I'm sort of leaning that way because of the banks not there to cover six and going Jack McRae.
00:37:26
Speaker
All right. Jack McRae coming in, potentially a bit underpriced. Obviously, Josh Dunkley has moved out. Do we think he's going to get back to his best? Lou, what do you reckon? Jack McRae back to his best in 2023? No. No, I don't think he's going to go back to 122 average or whatever he did a couple of years ago. What Jack McRae
00:37:48
Speaker
presents his value. He comes in priced at I think 104. He's currently been a 110 plus guy and logic suggests that Dunkley and to a lesser extent Hunter coming out of that side means perhaps more points for him on the inside.
00:38:05
Speaker
I don't think the scope for improvement from that 104 is as large as what some say. I'm not sure he's even going to be a 110 plus guy. I think other guys are going to take up the step around him as well. That being said, I think with his ownership, with his history of scoring and with the ability to put a captain option on him, I quite like the pick and it is
00:38:33
Speaker
like we've said, it's a vanilla pick but vanilla picks are a vanilla pick for a reason. I'm feeling at the moment like it's a bit of a safe pick. I feel like you'd be going with the crowd because you don't want to go out on a limb and you don't reckon he's going to go backwards and there's a small chance he might go up a bit but really he'll probably end up being about what he is.
00:38:58
Speaker
Yeah. Can I, can I just bring up a topic that's creeping into the mind? And I'm probably thinking that it's crept in due to all the, you know, just thinking about it way too much, but I feel like the closer we get to the start of the season, I'm not going to change it. The closer we get to the side of the season, I'm feeling like less and less confident in Tom Mitchell. Just like you said, I think it was Eustado just before said the system.
00:39:22
Speaker
I'm just, you know, the more and more we get close to the season, I just keep second guessing myself. I'm like, you know, can he go back to that one 10 plus at Collingwood or even do the safe pick Dossie? I'll pick him. I'm just saying he's got value and it's like McCray. It's like value. Some of you just put in the bank. There's a high chance because they've both been top eight midfielders before. There's a high chance they're there and that's solid away. But just remember, it's not like McCray though.
00:39:53
Speaker
Cause he's not priced at 104. He's in the nineties. Yeah. I'm not, look, I'm not doubting it. I'm just flat. I'm just saying it out there. You can't go against someone that's done what he's done at his ownership. I understand that. I'm just saying, I'm like, I'm just not, I'm just kind of like looking at the system more and being like a little bit more nervous these days, but yeah, you go against the ownership. It doesn't matter. Louie. Oh, just during the trade period and pretty much throughout the pre-season, we just keep hearing about how
00:40:23
Speaker
Firstly, Collingwood sort of headhunted Titch. They wanted him in their own system. Clearly, they're sort of earmarked that there's improvements that can be made to this system. I mean, they didn't win the flag last year, though they got close. I think just the
00:40:40
Speaker
Responsibility that seems like Collingwood are happy to give Tom Mitchell and rightfully so. I just don't see there being much downside if any downside this year and that's why he is such a popular pick because he's probably got minimum five points upside and look I only say five points because if you're right on that system then yes it's going to hamstring him a little bit but in terms of a starting pick I think
00:41:06
Speaker
He's another one that perhaps picks himself. What I'll say is... And Dosh, you've already used your veto movement. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm never going to veto titch. Okay. Come on. I just wanted to bring it up as a topic because I wondered if anyone else thought the same. Obviously not. Okay. Rusty's voice is struggling with all this arguments here, stay there.
00:41:27
Speaker
No, I think the only, what was I gonna say? Lost it, lost it. Let's move on to our next pick anyway. Who's up? It must be you, Lou. Yeah, so all right, given that you've vetoed Josh Kelly, I'm gonna go down to the forward line and pick Steven Canelio. Because I think he's gonna be a main part of that center bounce rotation. I think GWS will be quite tight knit. It's certainly to start under the tenure of Adam Kingsley.
00:41:57
Speaker
And on top of that, I'm not sure you can start Josh Kelly and Steven Canelio on the same side, despite one being a forward. I think you're constantly going to be hamstringing yourself in one direction or the other. And given the ownership and the forward eligibility, I do prefer cogs if I'm if I'm splitting hairs there. Interesting. Harmony, your thoughts?
00:42:23
Speaker
uh i do like cogs and i do like the gws's start to the season i think that it's funny isn't it we're looking at toronto and cogs and kelly and saying a similar thing that they were their role was a little bit um juggled around last year and they all should be in the midfield and all should be scoring better but i do believe it for cogs i mean he spent a lot of time up forward once he hit those cbas he scored well
00:42:50
Speaker
He'll have a bit of an upside, it's not going to be the competition winning pick but I'm still quite keen on him as a forward. He's probably the one GWS mid that you can point to last year that once he was in the guts really just killed it. Like he was going at 120 over a long stretch of games and through no fault of their own Josh Kelly
00:43:12
Speaker
was thrown around a little bit and and Tom Green though he was the most constant in there probably just hasn't taken that next step yet certainly last season remains to be seen this season but just seems to be a lot of points on offer
00:43:28
Speaker
In that Giants midfield mix and throw Perryman and Whitfield in that mix as well, and I'm just not sure where it sits so Personally, I just think the safety is with cogs a guy that we saw go 110 plus When he had the midfield role for quite a long stretch of time So they match simulation stuff the other day They sort of talked up Tom Green, but then they also said oh and cogs and Kelly and Perryman So it sounds like that was sort of the for
00:43:55
Speaker
Yeah, and I think they led with green because they know they're going to get those dirty clicks off of fantasy coaches. Absolutely. And super coaches like yourself stayed on. He just gave him the finger. Hami, this is you, back to back, mate. Now, just give an update. I've just done a little bit of maths. Thank Christ for this. If it was the back to back, Dossi, I'd be sweating.
00:44:18
Speaker
Back to back, Hami. We've got $2.07 million remaining between four. That's $517,500 per player, unless you want to go with a cheeky veto late in the piece, Hami. Stado, what do you got to say first? Hami, feel free to spend up. I'm quite happy to save on the way back. Yeah. So am I.
00:44:42
Speaker
Well, I think I've looked at it long enough, Dossie, and the veto is coming. Dockety can get the boot because it's too much money sitting there. I wasn't comfortable at the start. I've become less comfortable with that over the last 15 minutes. So he can go. And I think we might just plug in the junior pig, Nick Daikos, in defence. So that's saved me a few dollars to spend up elsewhere.
00:45:13
Speaker
And then I think I may go to another Collingwood player for our R2 in Darcy Cameron. So I'm still not 100% sure with these rucks but I am comfortable that he's under priced for

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00:45:30
Speaker
what we're buying there.
00:45:34
Speaker
Don't know about the Veto, a bit upset, but I can't argue with bringing in Nick Daikos, who's also been sitting in my team all pre-season. So I'm pretty happy you've done that. That just shuffles around for the listeners to learn. Tom Stewart now comes in D1, Nick Daikos D2, Elliott Yo, D3. So a bit of a shuffle there, and obviously Darcy Cameron. First of all, I'll get Stado's opinion just on Nick Daikos and also shuffling out Docherty.
00:46:00
Speaker
I think everyone thinks that the day cost is one of these players. It's not going to have the second year blues. I think he's been burning up the track. I think he'll get a bit of mid time, although I think his main role will be on the halfback flank. I'm probably not starting with him in my squad, and it's only because his run in the first six weeks is a bit tough.
00:46:25
Speaker
So I'm looking for him to drop a little bit of value and then jump on, hopefully one up, one down scenario and get him in. But will he be in the round the mark for the top 10 defenders? Absolutely, I think he will.
00:46:43
Speaker
Now, in saying that, he's got some tough games. I think he's got the Swans and Port Adelaide, who are hard to score against through defenders, got tagged against the Swans. But if he's playing in the midfield in those games, then less likely that the tag is going to be there. So I could be wrong. So I've got to back in that pick from Harmony.
00:47:09
Speaker
All right, and over to you, Louis, on the inclusion of the $725,000 ruck forward, Darcy Cameron coming in at R2 for us. Yeah, I don't mind it. I think there's probably three ruckmen in martial English and Darcy Cameron that most coaches are tossing up with. And unfortunately, that question is going to be extremely difficult to answer until we see some match sims and practice games, something official.
00:47:36
Speaker
And even then, I think it's going to be a little bit difficult. So Darcy Cameron presents the most value out of those three. There's others that you could probably look at as well. But I think that Darcy Cameron at this stage is a pretty good pick. We just need to watch what the split with Mason Cox is like, because some of these updates that I read, it just seems to get worse each time.
00:48:00
Speaker
Alright, now it's over to you, Louis. Looking at the price, you've... Hami's been nice to you. He's still saved us, at an average, in our last three players, an average of $500,000 here. Is there a veto that's going to be thrown into the mix, though, from your end, now that maybe, you know, I didn't think you were a big fan of the McRae pick, perhaps, or anyone else there? What's going to happen with you, Louis?
00:48:25
Speaker
Might just keep it in the back pocket, keep it a bit of a mystery for now, Dossi. I'm going to have to pledge allegiance to my boy Tobin McLean in the forward line. I think there's a spot for him rotating through that dog's midfield. I also think he's a capable scorer at half forward. He's a big tackler and history suggests that he does love the pill. Came in in the elimination final, I believe it was, scored the ton.
00:48:51
Speaker
didn't look like he'd really missed a beat and he hadn't because he was in the VFL for the previous six weeks turning up there as well. So I think in terms of an underpriced, you know, established player, I'll call him, I think he's as good a pick as any. Huge pick. I don't think there's, wait let's not, oh yeah, Harmee, you got something.
00:49:14
Speaker
I've heard a few people saying that he's just going to come in and slot in and be the new Dunkley, but there's a bit of size difference between McLean and Dunkley. I was a bit surprised that people were saying that. It doesn't seem to be that big enforcing defensive midfielder, but I think he's got a role somewhere in the team and he's still a big good Valley pick.
00:49:31
Speaker
Honestly like the player that is on hot on everyone's lips at the moment that he kind of reminds me more of is someone like a Zach Butters who's just cracks in like cracks in loves a bit of appeal loves a tackle like he's a real hard nut like he said harmi despite his stature he really cracks in so but still as you're alluding to Louie like a ball a ball magnet at best and you know comes in off basically just VFL and drops a ton in a final wasn't it so
00:49:58
Speaker
As long as he doesn't crack his knee and his head and his shoulder like Butters does. Yeah, true. Yeah, well, more to that. All right. Unfortunately, we've got to pass it over to Stado for his pick. There's only two left here, Stado. Still got some money to work with here. Who are you going to pick? Yeah. What is the total money? $1.15 million left at a total of $5.75k per player or spending up.
00:50:26
Speaker
Yes, so just general discussion, gents. I'm just thinking of structure now. So effectively we've got, and I know one's underpriced in the O, but we've got three premiums in the defence, got a rookie and
00:50:44
Speaker
risky mid-pricer. I know he's just above rookie price but I'd call him a mid-pricer constable. If we go down to the forward line dos we've got three premiums the right style of mid-pricer
00:50:59
Speaker
who we know is going to get good time and good scoring, one rookie. So whether we've got rookies available, I'm thinking the rookie suits more for a forward line, if we can find one, or a well low priced mid-pricer, and then spending up in the defence, then the debate becomes who. Would that be fair, gents? Any thoughts? I think you've got a good rookie in that forward line.
00:51:28
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. One with job security as well. So then the debate goes in, who do we spend coin on? So there's so many with question marks in defence. So I'm probably leaning towards someone that I think's got a bit of upside in Isaac coming.
00:51:56
Speaker
Biggest pod so far, I think. He comes in now, in our structure. He's in. Where does Whitfield play? Last year he didn't play on the back flank, did he? No, he lost that defensive status. It's a good question.
00:52:21
Speaker
We're guessing. So the choice was, I agree Docketty is too much of a spend. I don't know if Dawson's value and so he's probably the one I would probably prefer the most if we were to look outside. The rest have just got question marks all over them. We didn't talk about Brayshore.
00:52:47
Speaker
Yeah, I just got to say though, Hami, look, you're forgetting this guy's a super coach player now. He doesn't know how the game works. Look, the burning question now, are you regretting your veto a bit earlier, Hami? I think that three out of the four of us would agree that it was a right call.
00:53:06
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. I agree. Look, this is one. So I think Young, I think he's in the conversation. Cummings in the conversation. Dawson's in the conversation. And I think you're right. Bray Shaw's in the conversation. I think I had him as my D1 until the talk is a lot more people rotating through. I know there's one person not rotating through that's Clayton Oliver.
00:53:35
Speaker
He's stuck in the guts. They won't be planting him. But the thought of Brayshore popping out on a wing because Locky Hunter has been working as an insider a lot, was the quote, has made me worried and I want to see what's happening in Melbourne.
00:53:54
Speaker
I think, Louis, you sent us something the other day about just that there was an article or something that came out about Gus Brayshaw saying maybe he's going to be spending a little bit more time in defence and with Salem going down, does that kind of make sense as well?
00:54:07
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. As soon as that Salem news came in with the thyroid concern, I immediately thought who's going to fill that role. Angus Brayshaw, unfortunately, is probably one of the front runners. Whether or not that transpires remains yet to be seen, but I do have
00:54:25
Speaker
concerns that he might end up being that Mr Fix It guy and you may have a nice roll for three weeks and then get stitched up for the next three. Quickly, Ken, on your thoughts, though, Lou, on eyes at coming. Just, I think, Stado, though, I actually like thinking about it as well. There's talk that Himmelberg's probably going to be moving back to being more of a forward. As you said, Lockie Whitfield could be anywhere. There's a little bit more word that Lockie Ash could be playing on that half back line, but
00:54:52
Speaker
You know, we could say plenty of pill there for Isaac coming so... Lucky Keef as well, Dossy. Yeah, Lucky Keef will be back there as well. Yeah, he gets a fair bit. Uh, Lew, Isaac coming, I think. Sorry, is that... The only question... Go on, Sado, yep. Yeah, the only question is what his ceiling could be, because he's priced at 90.
00:55:12
Speaker
Now, he's had two full seasons and they've been both tremendous. My question is, what is he ceiling? Is his best season going to be a 95? Or is he a bloke that just becomes the next Jaden Short? And that's my concern, is he's coming in priced at 90, harm he brought up that Whitfield is still in that side and it does sound like he might be returning to a half-back role. But then you throw in blokes before the collarbone.
00:55:42
Speaker
But blokes have already spoken about like green, Canelio, Kelly, you know, all these guys have upside, but this is a, this is a team that was in the bottom four last year. And you know, the points have to come from somebody, you know, Peter has to rob poll to some extent. And I'm just not sure that there's enough meat on the bone with Isaac coming to select him. Is there enough meat on the bone for Dawson?
00:56:09
Speaker
I don't think there is. I think he falls a little bit into that Sam Doherty category where you're almost paying for what you're going to get. Yeah. I'm not sure what happens. He affects him, but we'll see Sinclair Sinclair. I haven't paid much attention to it all. And I'll be honest. Maybe that's
00:56:29
Speaker
overthinking it, but he's a guy with one year of data to suggest that he can do this and a new coach has come in. I just think if you're paying up 900k plus for Jack Sinclair, you're just, you're buying a lot of risk in that. But that's not to be said that he doesn't pick up where he left off and go the same price, but I just can't do that as a starting pick. It's just, it's a 79 average guy price. So we know we just talked about brochures concern. I don't see upside in Sicily.
00:56:58
Speaker
We're none of us are picking with it and we're not going Shannon Hearn. Mitch Duncan's too much of a risk, but I think we all agree he's got a bit of a ceiling. Houston, we're not throwing up that option. Lloyd, Boston, Hall, we're not going there. So all of a sudden you're left with Young.
00:57:19
Speaker
Yeah, I look at the team and I think, you know, with Brayshore sitting there or with Duncan or Dawson, I just feel more comfortable looking at Cumming. Yeah, I think he's one position that you're sitting there waiting for the pre-season, then you get a clearer picture. If someone shoots out that they've definitely got the role, that's a position you do. I'm happy to put Brayshore in instead of Cumming.
00:57:49
Speaker
But it's a stop holder because if I see him out in the wing at the practice games, I ain't sticking with him.
00:57:56
Speaker
I mean, we haven't even talked, do we even touch on Hayden Young as an option? But I mean, as we thought, we're, you know, the amount of time we're spending on a defensive lines, it's pretty much what the nightmare we're facing this pre-season as we go through. I just want to throw in two more names there. I think pre-season watch, massive pre-season watch for two guys who are under priced in Jack Bose and Andrew McGraw with this new role.
00:58:19
Speaker
So, those two defenders that could come out of the woodwork, so to speak, would be ones that we start selecting. Look, I know my biased opinion, but I am actually a little bit off Annie McGrath because there is so many good Essendon defenders there competing for the spots.
00:58:39
Speaker
Yeah, Ridley, Redman, Hepple, I assume will be back there a bit. But if they do play that chip chip, you've got to get on somewhere. And Ridley takes the kick outs too. So many defenders, but thankfully we've got Darcy Parrish in that M2 guys, it's all good.
00:58:58
Speaker
Okay, well, I better round this out and get our forward, our final forward and round out the team and maybe we can go through it unless there's any more vetoes to be had. And if there is more vetoes to be had, I'm trying to stitch you up. So I'm going to go with as much expensive as I can. Let's bring in David Cunningham from Carlton at $307,000. Who's doing this? Who's doing this? It's a pod. I love it. I actually really like him. I've used to really like the way he's injured. He's injured.
00:59:28
Speaker
No, he's coming back. He's in full train. He's under priced 25 years old. I actually think he brings a pretty good speed, great ball user to the Carlton team. And in this new system, we haven't seen him under Voss. So we saw a lot of guys take a step up under Voss in his first year. So I'm expecting, I actually wouldn't mind this guy if he's in the team round one to be that more of a unique starting pick, obviously a little bit more expensive.
00:59:56
Speaker
I think there's still a veto to be used by Louis if he wants to use it before we wrap up. Should I announce the team or are they going to be used? You've stitched me up, mate, because you've actually removed all the extra cash that I probably could have worked with.
01:00:16
Speaker
Look, I'm going to leave the team as is and out of spot, no, besides for the last pick, out of spot, I'm going to replace David Cunningham with a much more sensible pick. I'm going to pick Harry Sheasel, who was a toss up between himself and Philippu. I think both of those should have good job security and decent enough scoring for their position.
01:00:40
Speaker
Um, and we're just going to have to deal with the, the hundred K or so change that we've got left over that probably could have been spent on a much better midfielder than maybe Darcy Parrish, for example. It wasn't coming. Well, I have my veto available. Hang on. Cunningham was 11,000 more than sheasel. What are you on about?
01:01:00
Speaker
I thought he was 367. No, you wasted it for a lot of K. In terms of football talent mate, it may as well be 200K. OK. Seriously. You've got 55K in the bank, Stado. Come on, get out of the way so we can announce this team. What are you doing?
01:01:15
Speaker
No, no, no. Go and announce the team. That's okay. You're done. All right. Okay. In our defensive line, we have Tom Stewart, Isaac coming, Nick Daikos, Elliot Yeo, Charlie Constable and Reuben Ginby with Josh Weddle and Darcy Wilmot on the bench. In the midfield, we have Jack McCrae, Darcy Parrish. Very nice pick there. Tom Mitchell, LDU, Luke Davies-Uniak, Dom Sheed, Will Ashcroft, Cam McKenzie, Will Phillips. So we've got the three rookies there.
01:01:45
Speaker
Right on the bench are Oliver Hollins and Campbell Chesa. Rowan Marshall and Darcy Cameron in at Ruck with Max Heath on the bench. Josh Dunkley, Tim Taranto, Steven Canilio, Toby McLean, Harry Sheasel, Luke Peddler with Fergus Green, Angus Sheldrick on the bench in the forward line and James Chetus to round out the team. Just quick thoughts on the team first, harm you mate. What are you racking about this team?
01:02:14
Speaker
That's pretty solid. I'm happy with what we've come up with there and not too many stupid picks along the way. I think it was pretty good. Yeah, Stado, what do you reckon?
01:02:24
Speaker
Yeah, like the squad, I'd like a bit more oomph out of the midfield and maybe that's names. They might outperform what the names are I'd like to see. So I think the majority of the squads got some value and some upside. So you're going to be able to generate some coin, but I think you've got a fair whack of people you can keep in the squad all year. So that's also helpful. What about you, Louis? Pretty stoked with this one.
01:02:54
Speaker
Look it's a pretty decent squad. I think M1, M2 could probably use some more thought but I can't knock the players either. I'm also a bit nervous about D1 and D2 and Stuart and coming there but in terms of a team that we've just selected off the cuff, I don't mind the structure and I think
01:03:16
Speaker
It's it's pretty close to the sort of structure that a lot of coaches would be working with in that There's probably what six rookies on field maybe seven and and it's really where you spend your salary outside of that
01:03:31
Speaker
Yeah, I think overall it's pretty good. I wonder if there's any sort of major players with the higher ownership that we didn't pick that people are worried about. I mean, is there any major names that kind of are missing from our squad that you think are in a lot of teams? I don't have the numbers in front of me right now, but.
01:03:50
Speaker
Connor McKenna would be one, I think, in defence, but that being said, if Charlie Constable can show his chops in the pre-season, you'd probably shave off 50K and pick Constable instead with a massive asterisk, I think. I'm not sure he's in the team. No, I think that's just based on an article. I don't expect to see Constable at AFL level, so I wouldn't be planning for it. Connor Rosie, Stado didn't make the squad.
01:04:20
Speaker
What do you think about that? He's 39 per cent. We can only have the three big dogs in the forward line. I think we've picked three really good ones. Comfortable not starting Rosie then in harmony as well? Yeah, you would probably have to chop one of Cogg's or Toronto in order to find room for him, so I guess that's the choice that coaches are probably going to need to make.
01:04:46
Speaker
Yep. And then the other big ones are just your team. English is your Sam Dokka. He's unfortunately had to make way, uh, James Walpole. I'll just quickly touch on the last kind of player in that high ownership bracket. Uh, James Walpole, there was a bit of word that he was starting as, as a midfielder today in that first selection team at match practice. Louie, is he someone that you could see yourself kind of slotting into maybe that Dom shade slot that we had there?
01:05:11
Speaker
No, not really, Doss. I think Newcombe's taken his role and outside of that, to be honest, I think he's a bit of a hack-it-forward type player and you can only have so many of those in a football side. Alright, well hey, I hope he proves me wrong because he presents enormous value if you can get back to his best.
01:05:28
Speaker
We'll post out that team on the socials at Pod Pod AFL on Twitter. I'm just going to really quickly, cause we're going so late already. I'm going to really quickly ask you a few questions that came through from the listeners. Harmony, let's get a look here. This one from Taser. This one's from Taser. There looks to be a few good rookie defenders and several good midfield rookies. What do you think about running an extra primo in defense and four rookies in the midfield? Like your Ashcroft, Mackenzie, Phillips, Hollins, Johnson and Hewitt.
01:05:57
Speaker
I prefer to be a little bit more balanced than that. I don't think you really need four, but it depends on who we get, doesn't it? I mean, it depends what forward and defensive rookies we sort of have available for round one. You may need to do that. Or you may need to chase a couple of extra mid prices, because we may get no rookies. This one from Ninja Spoon is fading dock early and looking to grab him after initial price drop. Too risky. He's got Dunkley in the side for the same reason. Now, I know you were the man that vetoed Dockety in our squad. Is that your thinking as well?
01:06:28
Speaker
Well, it's a democracy and that's what the teams come up with tonight and I fully support it. This one from Tom, who do you have to regress this year and why?
01:06:40
Speaker
I had a quick look. I haven't actually gone through what I am going to do in the next couple of weeks is I go through and sort of list out who I think is the starting midfielders for each team. So that sort of may flush that out when I have a look at it. But I think that probably Lachie Neal is a chance to regress a bit. Jared Lyons definitely is. But I think with Dunkley coming in and
01:07:05
Speaker
Dunkley will be either the number two or number one go-to guy in that midfield I think, so there's a potential that Neil goes back a little bit. There's a few older guys I suppose, Shannon Hearn and Luke Shuey probably go backwards a little bit this season based on role and development of other players.
01:07:22
Speaker
Anthony, we're just... Gorn's probably the obvious one as well. Just with that Jill Rock set up. Yeah, good call. Yeah, depends what the role is, how much game time he plays. I mean, yeah, he probably will, but how much I'm not too sure. Anthony, we're just fine all at harmi. Get that different perspective. We don't want to get too much groupthink here. Anthony, Warpool, Cully, Dursma or Shade?
01:07:47
Speaker
Walpole, Cully, Dursma or Sheed? So that'd be Zaby Dursma from Portland. I'll put Dursma at the bottom, I'll put Sheed at the top based on value and I would have Walpole ahead of Cully and yeah look I think just following up on what Louis said before I think Walpole is going to be in the midfield it's just a matter of how many points he can go above his starting price and keeping that body right throughout the course of the season.
01:08:18
Speaker
Can we go Constable Caulfield McKenna at D4 and two rookies? I think that's... D4. I'd say, yeah, we had him at D5. That's a pretty weak backline. We had the Constable at D5, and obviously that could have been either of the other two as well. So is that a bit too weak? You know what? I'm not in love with any of those three names at the moment, Constable Caulfield and McKenna, because I think there's doubts about their role.
01:08:46
Speaker
Well for all of them isn't it? So I'm a little bit uncomfortable starting them and Les McKenna he's sort of confirmed as a definite starter which I'm still not sure that he is so I don't really love.
01:08:58
Speaker
any of those three. But I do have two rookies in my back line, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens in the preseason games. All right. Let's go with the last one here. Who've we got? Is Grundy a gift from the fantasy gods fresh from season off?
01:09:17
Speaker
New club snouted fantasy pig a few years ago. Everyone's all over teach, but there seems to be no love for Grundy. Harmony, we've had a chat about this in the past. I think Holmsey maybe brought it up on this show. What are your thoughts on that? Yes, he is a gift from the fantasy gods. Oh, you're all aboard Grundy. Why didn't he make an appearance in our squad then?
01:09:38
Speaker
look I'm not all aboard I actually I do share a bit of that sentiment though I mean you think look at the last full season he played I mean the guy is a gun fantasy score he scores all across the park I'll put it this way if Max Gorn re-inches his hamstring what do you what do you reckon around one would we start him oh yeah
01:10:05
Speaker
It doesn't take much for him to be the number one wreck in the game, so I just think that it's a bit of a watch at the moment, but I am keen on him. Whether or not we start with him, I'm not sure.
01:10:16
Speaker
All right. Well, thanks, thanks, Harmey. And thanks for your contributions on this show. Congratulations again to Holmsey on the new little one into the world. And we just want to remind our listeners, get your, get your ratings and reviews. Gee, rusty tonsils here is struggling to finish the show, Stado. Get your listener league in. Do you want to finish it off? Do the listener league plug? Quickly, Stado, go on.
01:10:38
Speaker
Yes, listen Elite, plug. I can't really read the details there, but I will say, make sure you get your entries in, which basically what you can do is give us a rating, but also
01:10:55
Speaker
Give us a fair bit of detail of why you want to be on Team State O. So don't worry about Rusty. Don't worry about new Dad. He's not going to be concentrating or helping you whatsoever. Just back Louis and I. We need those people to back us up. We need to be in. Get your details in.
01:11:15
Speaker
get the reason why we should be selecting you. And the reality is, even if you pick the rusty man or the new pupper, at the end of the day, if it's witty enough, then Louis and I can pick you anyway, because it's Louis and I's team that you want to get on.
01:11:30
Speaker
get that sorted. Also very very early next week we'll announce a Pod Pod Group at AFL Fantasy where you can all join and play against us so be able to see Louis right up at the top, me langing around the 50 mark or so, Holmes he complaining because he's had a bit of bad luck and
01:11:54
Speaker
Dossie right down the bottom and I reckon there's about six seven hundred people we should get into that and that's how you use your tonsils. That was fantastic and just flick me through your bank account details later Stato and I'll fix you up for that mate. Fantastic all right thanks again Hami, Stato, Louis, I'm Dossie and we'll see you next week.