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Big Tex, Red Dot Stress & A Chrissy Bur-gess! Round 3 Review & Questions | #PODPod
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TEX! Another HUGE ton from the Texan has plenty of people licking their lips with the leaky Roos coming up in round 4! Elsewhere, Gaff returned to his ball magnet ways, and a new POD pod favourite Chrissy Burgess of the Gold Coast Suns looks to take on the mantle as number one ruck. Heff from the Keeper League Pod joins Dos & Lewy to discuss all these major issues and more facing AFL Fantasy Classic coaches this week!
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Transcript
Introduction and New Format
00:00:00
Speaker
G'day and welcome to the Point of Difference AFL fantasy podcast brought to you by the Kepa League pod. On this new look episode we ditch the round by round review to touch on more of the major issues facing AFL fantasy coaches heading into round four and a few new cheeky segments. Oh yeah and heff's here too. I'm not doing your stupid pod pod intro by the way. Louis take it away. It's the pod pod.
Recording Locations and Tone Setting
00:00:33
Speaker
G'day, I'm Dos here with Louis and Heff. We're recording Monday night, and after a long weekend, we just did, finished a huge recording of the Kepa League pod, so make sure you check that out. But the man from the Kepa League pod is here, Heff. Welcome. G'day, boys. It's nice to be in Dosy's Den. We've named it here. We've got the Ludio, which is Louis Studio. Studio Heff and now Dosy's Den are three recording areas. So, yeah, look, it's great to be here. Love the pod. Big fan of it. Been on it once before. Keep listening to it, so it's probably a good sign.
00:01:01
Speaker
That's
Louis's AFL Fantasy Ranking Success
00:01:02
Speaker
right. Thanks for coming on here. We do appreciate it. It's almost like a Back-to-back duo. You probably should go listen to maybe the keeper league pod one first and then jump on this one But if you're just a new classic like Louie He was basically checking his scores all through the last podcast. Anyway, I didn't really add much to the key play pod now. I'm kidding About 30 seconds of Louie while he was scrolling through his ranking which if we might say is on the rise Louie
00:01:26
Speaker
Yeah it's come up a little bit this week so last week I think I was just outside 2000, 2659. I've come into 772. And what's been the biggest success of your rising in the ranks? Has it been trades? Has it been just backing the way you started and just not making drastic changes? What's been your big success on the rise?
00:01:46
Speaker
Yeah, so it certainly hasn't been trades. It was just a rookie fix up this week for me. So I brought in Waterman and Campbell. It's just backing in what I selected at the start of the year and not all of them are firing, but it looks like a lot of my starting selections have been.
00:02:02
Speaker
And how about you Heph? Have you had a decent week on the track in the fantasy classic arena? Yeah, not too bad. I scored 2036. I think last week I was ranked 2021. Now I'm 1585, so jumped just under 500 there. So yeah, pretty happy with that, I guess. Not too bad. Pretty pretty rancid week from old Dossie. About 100 points back from that. 1911 from me dropping my rank. I'm no longer in the three digits like old Louie over here, but in the 2000 region, we'll say.
00:02:32
Speaker
So, not too bad. We're all sort of hanging in there, doing all right. Yeah, good position. Hope our listeners are doing well too. Oh, we're all within reach. Yeah, definitely. So, no concerns right now. Lad's
'Nailed it, Failed it' Segment
00:02:41
Speaker
new segment though to kick it off. Nailed it, failed it. A player you nailed this week, a player you failed, whether it's in your starting squad or a player traded in. Heff, do you want to kick it off being our guest? Who'd you nail this week? Nailed it. This is part of my starting squad, but the player that I nailed was Rory Sloan. So, just keeping him in the side. Oh, you took mine.
00:02:58
Speaker
Yeah, what do you have this week? 115 points, just a player, and Louis, you said it before the pods, I'm gonna steal this quote again. It's just a player that didn't leave our sides in the pre-season, so we picked him as one of our mid-price, or just a bit higher than mid-price options, but we knew that he would be improving this year, building on his price as well, and building his average back up to what it was before a shocking 2020 season, really. And yeah, he's the pick, I reckon. He's just nailed it for me, in my team anyway.
00:03:23
Speaker
He's done it before and he's just producing it. He's also renowned for hot starts, which I mean, he didn't, he didn't get those huge scores with one too, but he's been chugging along and then gone bang in round three was just what you wanted. How about you, Louie? You, you've found a new player cause you were about to do Rory Sloan as well. You found someone else?
00:03:39
Speaker
Yes, I did have a backup, luckily enough, and that's Alec Waterman, so it's a little bit boring, but I was in a position this week, like a lot of coaches, that had Bergman, Hunter and Hymal out, so I was sort of looking for that option. I think DevRob played the first game of the round, so that was a bit hard for me to do, so I jumped on Alec Waterman, instead dished out a 68, which is fantastic from a rookie on Debut, so I'm happy to say I nailed that one.
00:04:05
Speaker
Yep, and he'll be in a lot more teams, I think, this coming week, so you're ahead of the curve in that respect as well. What about you, Doesi? Marlin's Zach Merritt. I'm going real simple. He's the only player that fired for me and my team this week. 121, but also putting the captaincy on him. Notice he only had the 72% time on ground. I do love my time on ground stats, as Steph pointed out during the week. That's a huge score versus the Saints, and we're seeing midfielders just carve against the Saints as well, but you've just got to give that to him.
00:04:32
Speaker
Now, one you failed, failed it. Who'd you do, Heph? What was your fail this week? My fail was not so much a player. It was the fact I didn't get Grundy. I had the VC on Grundy's 150 odd, and I just didn't get it the points.
00:04:48
Speaker
in the end. So my issue was, I was too scared to say, put the C on merit and let the team announcements ride. I put it on McCray on the Thursday. I just took his option. I should have put it on merit. And what would have happened is I would have noticed Highmore was out. So I would have just put the C on Highmore and then just rolled with Grunty score. So I was just, I just got to back my players in later on, you know, and, and kind of expect some donuts coming into my side. So it's not so much a
Top AFL Fantasy Topics Discussion
00:05:14
Speaker
player that I failed. It was more so what really affected me was not being able to get Grunty score.
00:05:18
Speaker
It also would have been pretty hard to go against McCray, though, if you hadn't seen your team against North Melbourne, you probably would have thought he was going monumentally. It probably wasn't what we were expecting. Oh yeah, yep, he came home strong. What about you, Louis? Failed it.
00:05:30
Speaker
My fail, like a lot of coaches, was not trading out Hayden Young or Jordan Clark this week, so they were on the trade table all week. I still could have, despite some of the rookie outs, decided not to, and that ended up being about a 60-point turnaround. Yeah, that's a tough one to swipe. What about you, DOS man? You've got a few to pick from, mate.
00:05:49
Speaker
Oh, plenty, plenty. I've actually, I think I've sort of touted on this podcast a few times. My strength is my trading and gee whiz. I've, I've gone, I've done two terrible trades within the first four trades we've had. Well, tell us about your, uh, your probably biggest failure this week. What was it? All right. Are we going to talk about him right now?
00:06:07
Speaker
I think so. So you lads, I mentioned, I don't know if I was that big on the pods. I might've been bigger on the pods, but I certainly, as the week wore on, the group chat was firing about how I was going to bring in texts. Yep. All right. We tried to convince you. You guys trolled me in the group chat. It wasn't a troll. Daily gifts of texts, daily, multiple. Daily, more of an hourly. An hourly text gifts, which
00:06:32
Speaker
Maybe you guys know how my brain works it's not that that was going to enforce bring him in it was thinking these guys are making fun of me here I need to take him out of my trade plan this might be speaking to a different demographic I'm not sure the demographic this is but I was watching bluey with my son today and there's this little Jack Russell that has ad day and just bounces around with different ideas this is basically doss in our group chat he actually applies to himself
00:06:54
Speaker
in the chat. So I think if we can kind of we thought if we could kind of just keep subliminally pumping him with text gives we could get him to be brave enough to pick him. So I think the move from now on is to just drop a name here and there because I was pretty keen on Noah Anderson last week is just a cheeky little option in classic.
00:07:14
Speaker
And that was enough to sort of plant the seed and doss his mind. Now he's got Noah Anderson staring at him in that midfield mix. He's my failed it. Right now I'm still backing him in. I brought him in for Dyson Hepple. He scored me 71. So it's more of the same. You haven't lost out there. Yeah, you just hate it. It's a waste of trade really. And I've already traded in sharp and out sharp within the first two weeks.
00:07:39
Speaker
um, terrible trading on my behalf. I will get better lads. This is our next section that we're going into. It's the top five. And what we're going through is the hottest top, hottest five topics for the week. And we're going to discuss it round table style. And I just want to start it off with a hot issue this week. And it's the red dot crisis that we faced in round three, and heading into round four, what to do. Luckily, we got a few options coming in with the guys we've
00:08:07
Speaker
couple of guys we've already mentioned with Waterman playing for Essendon, Dev Rob, who was amazing for people that had the guts to bring him in on the early game for Brisbane. But we've had Bergman, Hymor, Sharp, Hunter, then Hayden Youngs popped a string,
00:08:24
Speaker
just the red dots lads like Louie what's the plan from here with all these red dots yet you've got underperforming guys like a Geordie Clark a Patty Dow guys like this what's the red dot crisis like it's coming about Tom
00:08:39
Speaker
Yeah, so this week was a great example of why it can be really tempting to trade in a bloke like Tex Walker, for example. If you've got three or four blokes on the bench that are losing their position in the side, all of a sudden, all that cash generation that you've used on a bloke that's playing anyway to make a bit of cash, you're actually losing on the bench. So I think that in terms of those rookies, you really need to make sure that you are constantly turning them over and generating that cash.
00:09:08
Speaker
Yeah, I think one of the biggest rules I've learned from Stado over the year, the statesman we had him on in one of the early episodes, it's just the green dots. You've got to have just those green dots all the time. And the red dots is just a major issue at the moment. So is your opinion, Louis, being statesman junior, that we need to that was stage you that we need to fix these first before fixing other issues, like say a Geordie Clark, for instance.
00:09:33
Speaker
You do, but at the same time sometimes you need to consider Tom Hymour. Tom Hymour's obviously got dropped, but he's got the Eagles coming up this week. St Kilda got smashed, they're going to need some tall defenders back there. So I would suggest that Hymour probably comes in, could probably make a similar case for Bergman at Port Adelaide. So these
Rucks Performance and Strategy
00:09:53
Speaker
are the types of guys that already have that low break even.
00:09:56
Speaker
that may be holding for a week and then being named again is actually the play because if you're bringing in a different rookie they're obviously coming in if they haven't played yet they're coming in with that inflated break even so you're making a little bit of cash but over that two-week period there's probably not a big difference.
00:10:14
Speaker
Even St Kilda could have used a pool hunter on the weekend as well. With the red dots that you've got, let's just hold for a bit before we panic too much and just see who comes back in. I think a couple of those will be greens again. I 100% agree with the statesman and the statesman junior that I'm a big fan of leaving one for your loophole, obviously, but getting rid of as many red dots as you can because you need that cash generation. If you're going to be any chance at the end of the year, you need to keep generating that cash.
00:10:42
Speaker
And further to that, if you're not constantly bringing these guys in, we've already seen this year that we've lost a cold well, a rail, a harms, wits, hepple, draper, danger suspension. So if you're not moving on these rookies when you're able to, all of a sudden next week, you might find yourself in a position where you just can't generate the cash and you're going sideways elsewhere. It's really hard to find that balance as well of knowing when we can jump off these players and when we can fix up the red dots. Maybe just the simple message
00:11:12
Speaker
from, from sounds like from both of you guys is if you've got red dots and you have the ability to fix it up and you've got a green dot that might be a little bit underperforming, you just fix the red dot first and then fix that 100%. It's sexy to bring in that guy that's going to give you a hundred, but if you can get you a rookie that makes you 40 K and bring in that same guy or a different guy who's at a similar price next week and he gets you that hundred, you're in the same position, but you're 40 K richer. So play the long game.
00:11:38
Speaker
The only time it differs is if the break-even is just ridiculously high and you're gonna lose more cash that way. That's one scenario where you might think about doing something different. But for example, everyone was talking about trading Paddy Dao out last week. Yes, he obviously failed us, but I personally thought a 37, I think, was a giddable break-even from him.
00:11:55
Speaker
Turns out it wasn't. But look, that's the kind of way you need to think about this because so many people want to trade these guys on. But if the breakeven is gettable, then you just keep going with them. And the only time you'd actually think about trading a green dot over a red dot is if the breakeven just gets stupidly high. Exactly. And that's the reason I opted to keep Hayden Young in the end. It didn't work out for me, but I knew that Hayden Young.
00:12:14
Speaker
Moving on to you know the next six weeks will probably play every single game and you can take a lot out of that where as a jacob kazitzky Probably played okay today Job security a question mark. He's someone I'd be worried about so yeah And and you jumped on a waterman who's gonna now hold you in good stead ahead of the curve sort of thing as well All right this second on the top five we've got andrew gaff
00:12:37
Speaker
Just a epitome of holding your premiums here, dropping a 150. What was going on with Gaff though in the early round heff that you saw? I think we spoke about it on the pod pod and his running patterns were weird. He didn't know where to go with the new system. It just kind of maybe he was just off for a couple of weeks. He's back. It just seemed like as well that West Coast were going very direct to their tools as well. Yeah. And kind of skipping him in the passage of play. This week, it was very much let's keep the ball off Port Adelaide and watch him unravel.
00:13:06
Speaker
and I reckon he really benefited from that it was just like kind of instead of bombing long forward 50s they just kept the ball off Port Adelaide by chipping around kicking to each other and kind of just working you know chipping away out the field and things like that it allowed Gaff to get into that into that passage of play and things like that so I think that helped Gaff on the weekend now do we see West Coast going back
00:13:25
Speaker
to, this is kind of the point I'm trying to make, is this something Gaff has adjusted in his game or something West Coast have adjusted or is this just a kind of matchup type style of play that they use this week to kind of dismantle Port Adelaide? Could we see it going back to, you know, going a lot more direct next week? I'm not sure who West Coast have, I probably should know that. But yeah, could we see them going more direct next week and then, you know, missing Gaff again? Who knows? But I think that was a difference anyway in his scoring this week.
00:13:50
Speaker
I think so because we see from Port Adelaide that they really focus on their own game style. So even though they're a tough team to score against because they just possess so much of the pill, they don't actually play a super accountable brand of football going back the other way. And they don't change their game plans for anyone. If they're losing, they won't change it. They'll keep trying the same thing, which is kind of frustrating. Their coach is too poor to do that.
00:14:13
Speaker
Yeah. Gaff is, uh, I would just, if you've already got him, obviously Kate, you have to go to 155. Fantastic. I think that there's still going to be a little bit of volatility over the next few weeks, but he's one to watch. He's a really interesting player this year. Yeah. He's a guy that averages 112 at Optus as well. So you were hoping that that would return to the norm. It probably did in this round and him getting a massive score, but it kind of leads me to the number three in our top five.
Impact of Blowout Wins/Losses on Trading
00:14:40
Speaker
And that's the blowout wins and losses that we have seen this season. Now, that was a pretty blowout game. I think I think Port kind of made it a little bit more respectable in the end, but it was controlled from the start. Sorry, lads. Port fans, both of you, both of you here. But it was controlled straight from the start of the game with the mighty, mighty, mighty Wiggles getting over the top of years.
00:15:00
Speaker
But we're seeing it more across the league seemingly that there's just these blowout wins and does that contribute to maybe more than ever holding firm with your premium. So a guy like Andrew Gaff has a couple of down weeks.
00:15:16
Speaker
he's probably not the one I'm looking at, maybe a guy like Zach Budders. In a blowout win, he gets 119, he dips down. If Port bounce back next week and he goes out and gets 100 in another dominant disposal display, are we just maybe just rotating through players that have shown a ceiling? I'm talking about
00:15:37
Speaker
specifically like a butters a degoi guy he hasn't shown us the ceiling in the regular season someone like a butters who's shown us a ceiling do we not jump off these guys quick reaction more than ever this season due to the nature of how some of these games just
00:15:53
Speaker
Teams aren't touching the pill. Yeah. I think if you've got them in your side, you're not jumping off anyway. Cause you know, you've probably got other issues to fix up at this point in time. Absolutely. I will say though, when trading these guys in and in these kinds of types of players you're talking about, you need to be very mindful of the fixture, who they've got coming up, what sort of game could be played like butters. Great example needs to kind of win a bit of contested footy in there as well. A very handball dependent kind of player as well. Kind of in and under that sort of stuff.
00:16:19
Speaker
if they're getting on top of it like if then opposition midfield is getting on top of them he might not score as well so yeah I think just when bringing these guys like if you've got them you've got to hold them because you've got other right now I'd be very surprised if you don't have other issues to actually fix up but um yeah I think if you are thinking about bringing a guy like this in like butters was someone I considered this week and then I saw the west coast matchup and I just didn't feel right about it I thought you know Port actually could be in a bit of trouble this week so I didn't bring him in but um
00:16:45
Speaker
I ended up getting Dunkley instead so that was kind of nice. Definitely be considering going forward that's for sure. I just like probably another player that I brought in like Gold Coast get done by around 50 disposals against Adelaide which probably we didn't expect. Leading disposal winner on the ground for Gold Coast was Noah Anderson now.
00:17:06
Speaker
I paid, I'm just saying this isn't all about my team. I'm saying there's players around the league that are doing similar stuff. Like if you've jumped on someone, do you trust more so more than ever that next week maybe things are different? I just think that there's a more volatile style of we're just seeing upsets. We're seeing random wins here and there. I'm sort of more likely to stay on a guy that I've picked now and do the rookie fix ups more than ever.
00:17:32
Speaker
Yeah you gotta keep backing them in Doss, you've picked these blokes for a reason and they will eventually come good and you'll know when they're really just no good at all I think. Number four in the top five, all things rucks guys, Grundy gone, people that started with the set and forget rucks absolutely licking their lips this week. Are they?
Ruck Strategy Deep Dive
00:17:53
Speaker
Well if you went one of the two especially you'd be pretty happy I mean they both they both fired pretty well. Tons from both so I think we looked at the rocks a little bit differently a couple of rounds ago where the first round went on I look at these two big rocks or you know there was quite a few of them they're scoring no good.
00:18:11
Speaker
But we weren't looking at the other end of the spectrum where these rookie rucks were actually scoring pretty decently. I think Matt Flynn went sort of 60 or 70. No, it was a 99 in round one. So while we were going on, no, the rucks are dead. Well, hang on. No, the blokes that we paid way too much for may have been dead at that point. But what we've seen is rookie rucks have been very capable of scoring. Lloyd Meeks come in and he's averaged pretty much 55. So I think that these two big dog rucks are obviously the two keepers.
00:18:41
Speaker
But at this point, you got to say that coaches paid too much for them. I think so. I just I feel like we're looking at like we've just talked about the red dot crisis hitting us early in the season. We've got some mid prices that you may or may not have gone on that you now having to fix up or injuries.
00:19:02
Speaker
And eventually is this gonna is this gonna catch up with us half starting with you know I've I've gone the double rookie rock yeah a lot of people have gone Flynn Grundy or Flynn Gorn. Which Flynn has been absolutely fine and you just you just happy I'm saying that these rocks kind of look like the back and firing hundred ten hundred twenty they're at the point now where the weather have been in the past few years where it's killing you not having them.
00:19:25
Speaker
I think I think with this year we've actually just the difference has been we've actually got some rookie rucks that we can rely on so not just relying in terms of scoring because you know the scoring is gonna be up and down it's more so that they're gonna be playing each week and I think this year more than ever I'm more confident I've set and forget this is the first year I've never done you know not set and forget my rucks
00:19:43
Speaker
And this year, more than ever, I'm confident of still being able to get to a Gorn later in the season without blowing up my side. I know he's going to probably go big from now on, but I think Flynn is just going to keep building and building and building from this point onwards. I have confidence that with maybe, you know, over the period of two weeks, a couple of downgrades, I can get to Gorn eventually. Previous years, I've never even considered going a rookie ruckman to try to get to someone like Gorn. And it's the reason why you're set and forget is because they're so hard to get to. That's all.
00:20:10
Speaker
And you're actually going to have three trades essentially to get to Max Gorn because you're going to hold Matt Flynn until his buy round. Otherwise you're wasting an additional trade just to trade off of Flynn not to Gorn and then to jump on Gorn again when you're eventually able to. So I think Flynn is someone or really any rookie ruck you run them to the buy as long as they don't share the same buy as Max and Grundy and then you jump on afterwards. And with those three trades or
00:20:35
Speaker
Really, if you're going to be quite shrewd, you can use four or five over two weeks and get you gone if it's a must have. It's a good tactic, really. Wait until the buy around so you can use a bit more. All right. Number five on the top five. It's the man we talked about earlier in the show. It's Tex.
00:20:50
Speaker
Tex!
Tex Walker: Must-Have Debate
00:20:52
Speaker
It's the Texan. First of all, is it real, Dos? Is it too late for him? Can we get on? Can you trade a failed premium to get him like a degoi? And guys, this leads into this week's Dossey's Dilemmas. We're out of the top five. We're into the Dossey's Dilemmas straight away. The question, Dossey's Dilemma this week.
00:21:13
Speaker
Is Tex a must-have? I don't know about must-have given what his price will be now. I think even in some ways miss the boat. What I will say is that there was a lot of people out there who ended up keeping Caldwell last week to get the zero so they could get Grundy on. It's probably actually the perfect sideways this week to actually go across to Tex. What's your price date? I haven't checked since the game. 558K. It's pretty similar to what Caldwell was priced at, isn't it?
00:21:36
Speaker
Yeah, so you could just go straight across, Matt, if you've helped out. It's actually the perfect scenario for those people. And I'm assuming his break even is just super, super low still. Yeah, you jump on techs purely for his break even. He's got the minus nine, I'll assume. This week he goes 100 plus versus north. That could potentially come down further. He could make 90 more K.
00:21:58
Speaker
What's tough is his price at 85 now. So it's not like you're really getting that value in terms of what you're paying for. You might this week, but if Tex does drop a 70, quite quickly that break even is going to flip on itself. And what we've seen through these first couple of rounds is, we can't get rid of a Jordan Clark. We can't get rid of a Jordan Degoie. We can't get rid of a Hayden Young. We can't get rid of a Jai Caldwell. And we've got all these rookies to deal with on the bench.
00:22:25
Speaker
I just think that if you brought in Tex last week, well done. Great pick. And you've come out smelling like roses, but now it's too late. It's too late. Yeah. Far out. It's a great point you make. But the gifts are going to be coming this week, Dossie. Don't worry about that one. Probably being myself by the end of the week. Good luck with anyone that goes for him. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense. The negative break even, the fact he's got North Melbourne this week,
00:22:53
Speaker
People might be running on the ground at three-quarter time because he's notched up the ton for the year. Three-quarter time. It could get that messy. We could, you know, people might be floating around with a C on text this week. It would not surprise me at all. I saw someone do that. Yeah. It's going to happen this week. This week it'll happen a lot more. Like look at his scores. Look at who he's up against. It'll happen. I don't.
00:23:18
Speaker
You'd be hilarious. I would not do it, but I applaud anyone who does. Yeah, for sure. All right, so text is not a must-have is the answer to Dossie's dilemma this week. Guys, our next segment, it's time to target. A player that might have maybe dropped in value, maybe just as showing signs that, you know, you don't have him yet.
Zach Williams as a Top Defender Target
00:23:35
Speaker
You're looking in and probably not, I guess, owned by stacks of people or maybe is. I don't know. We're going with whatever on this segment, but it's time to target. Louis, who's at time to target?
00:23:44
Speaker
Meet Zach Williams. And Zach Williams has been someone that I've been trying to target for a couple of weeks now, because the fact is, this is a bloke who's playing in the midfield. We've seen that with the center bounce attendances. At the moment, he's not scoring well. So he went 77 on the weekend, 63 the week before that. I'm thinking that's a bit of teething issues. At GWS, when he played pure midfield, he was going 110 plus every single week. And even as a defender, Zach Williams was going 80 plus. So right now, what is price that?
00:24:14
Speaker
I don't think there's a lot of downside besides maybe his injury history.
00:24:19
Speaker
But the upside of Zach Williams is that he's possibly a top six defender, top eight, top 10. He's near enough that at 600K, you can jump on this guy really quickly, under spend, have a bit of change left over, cash in your rookies and upgrade to a premium elsewhere. So sort of playing the long game there, but I think there is something to under spending on a premium early who's under priced right now and utilizing that cash elsewhere.
00:24:46
Speaker
So I guess I'm making a different point here, but Zach Williams is the man that you need to jump on this. Time to target Zach Williams. Yeah, it's a good point. At his price. So right now, what is he? 597K. If you've got a bit stashed in the bank, he could be a legitimate option for Haydn Young owners as well. If you can get up there with it, if you've got something in the bank, you can go down again, perhaps get up there to get him as well.
00:25:08
Speaker
And there's no harm in going early on Zach Williams because right now he's got a 99 break even. You might go, okay I'll wait till next week and see if he comes down a little bit more. Well if he brains it next week, I can tell you every single coach in the competition is going to be jumping on him and you've missed out on that previous Zach Williams score of 120. You're just chasing. Go early.
00:25:27
Speaker
have the unique and I don't think it's something that's going to burn you too badly unless you get injured. Don't mind that one, Louis. Mine, it's a bit of a different mould, but I'm thinking Jake Lloyd might be getting to a price where he's more gettable than he will be for the rest of the season. Thinking about, I think he's breaking still 129, but that's still actually gettable for Jake Lloyd, which is crazy. With the amount of kickouts he takes, he's the main guy who takes them out. And I think that's probably what we saw over the first few weeks. He was kind of letting Dawson do a few more of them, stuff like that.
00:25:57
Speaker
He's kind of getting back to his best. We know he had that knee issue complaint in the preseason And I think you're not gonna get him too much cheaper than this So if you've got the luxury and you can actually get to him It's probably the time to start looking at him Otherwise you're gonna be spending a lot more later on and he's definitely gonna be a player He's gonna be a player that's in the team that wins the highlights. That's for sure
00:26:16
Speaker
Look, I was about to come in and cut you off and say, look, Sydney, it was defenders against Richmond. They scored massively. Then I had a look at his next few. He's got Essendon followed by GWS who've been garbage, followed by the Suns. And I'm like, gee, maybe you're onto something here. I do think maybe you can wait a little bit longer for Lloyd. He's just that very high price.
00:26:38
Speaker
I just don't think he's going to get my cheaper. That's all. Yeah. So he's my number one trading target. If you can afford an Uber premium this week, I really like where his price at and what his break even is. It's achievable. You get on early, he's unique, but you can wait two weeks. You can probably wait two weeks. I initially had gaff, but I think we spoke enough about him. Um, just given, you know, he's back to his sort of
00:27:01
Speaker
Uber best is low seven hundred it's probably one of the cheapest you get him but I want to go to other guys that I think come into the bracket that you're talking about half your top six defender category and you can kind of pick your poison here whichever one you trust most I've got.
00:27:18
Speaker
Callum Mills who's playing pure mid and he's had two fantastic games out of three and his lowest score was in the mid to high eighties. Louis, you've been massive on Callum Mills. He's a top six defender this year. Oh, 100%. Yeah, 100%. He was pretty much knocking on the door at the end of last year in the latter half of last season. I was playing that midfield role
00:27:40
Speaker
Uh, then now we're seeing this season, clearly that's his role. He's attending pretty much the most center bounces of any Sydney mid. There's a clear passing of the torch from Luke Parker and Josh Kennedy who were in their latter years. So Mills will be someone who will lead that group. And as a junior, he played as a junior, sorry, as a junior, obviously he played as a junior, had very good, had very good score as well.
00:28:05
Speaker
It's really promising going forward. And he's someone who's going to pick up mid status too, which we've seen probably already in the last few weeks that lead DPP, that Jordan Clark DPP has become really handy. Yeah. The other player I wanted to just talk about, you know, pick your poison sort of thing. This is the opposite end of the spectrum, not a midfielder. He's a, this is a guy that I think he's now genuinely, I mentioned him last week. I think he's in that top six contention.
00:28:31
Speaker
And it's a Gold Coast son, Jack Bose. Now we do have a man from the keeper league podcast here, your other half of the keeper league podcast, a huge fan of Jackie Bose. Doesn't shut up about him. No, he does not, but he's been, he's got gifted an amazing role this year and it's thanks to Jack Lakosius moving out of that back line. He's moved up onto a wing. Jack Bose now taking kick ins is the number one
00:28:54
Speaker
distributor out of there. And Gold Coast is the second highest marking team in the AFL right now. They love to possess the ball in the back line, much like West Coast do, chip it around. I think he's a genuine top six defender this year now as well. Yeah, I agree. The kickout role is just pivotal to that. He takes them all, basically. And the thing is, because he's such a good user of the ball, that's not going to drop at any stage as well.
00:29:17
Speaker
Like they specifically want the ball in his hands wherever possible. So I think Jack Bose is a great option. And yeah, I'm going to be very surprised if he's not a top six option. It's time to sell guys. The, the people that haven't lifted to our expectations, these are more of your, your premium type players, I guess, because it is.
Time to Sell Jordan Clark?
00:29:34
Speaker
Mine's not. Okay. Well, okay. That, that mid price, sorry, the mid price kind of guys or the premiums. It's up to you.
00:29:43
Speaker
It's time to sell, Louie. For me, it's Jordan Clark and he's highly owned. 40% of coaches have him in their team. He's just played today. Put up at 55. Didn't look great. Kicked the goal. Probably saved his game early with that.
00:29:58
Speaker
It's still good, it's still good. The Simpsons Pig wandering down the street. But next week, and the week after, and the week after that, while he's named in the team, constantly there's going to be a thought in our minds that, oh shit, is Jordan Clark going to be dropped this week? Especially this week with Menegola and
00:30:18
Speaker
and danger to come in in the next two weeks so he's some and obviously Charlie Constable was the sub today so he's got a bit of competition for his spot. I said in the pre-season DOS my concern was that he doesn't have a role he's really not I mean he's good at everything but he's really not a master of any of it either so I'm a little bit concerned with where he sits in that side and for that reason I think you just go early on him and trade.
00:30:44
Speaker
All right, Louie, half so. Apologies in advance if this turns into a fistfight right now, but for me, it's time to sell Patty Dow. No!
00:30:55
Speaker
I have completely jumped off board the Paddydale Peninsula. I'm swimming, I don't really have to swim, I can probably just drive off of it. I'm getting the fuck out of it. I'm getting the fuck out of Paddydale Peninsula. I'm ashamed you were ever permitted access. I'm ashamed I got on board. I'm ashamed you were permitted access on the Paddydale Peninsula.
00:31:15
Speaker
It's always a long road on the Petterdale Peninsula. You've got to really settle in. You've got to set up your shack. You've got to really build that home. I thought you were really keen. I mean, I've got my mansion on there. I saw you picking your little tent, but you never really put the peg holes down and you never really were invested with it. I don't regret taking him because at his price and what he showed us in the preseason, it was enough.
00:31:37
Speaker
but right now he can't get his break even of what 38 it's time to sell for whatever you can get out of him he needs to go and you just need to move on from paddy there it's an unfortunate thing but it might be true it's time to sell for me i'm just going
00:31:53
Speaker
Jordan de Goey. I'm just done with him. I can't handle watching him again. It might be the exact what I'm saying. In not to sell these sort of guys that might have that higher ceiling down the road and you know, up and down sort of scores. But I don't think he's the Kmart dusty type thing. He's the reject shop Jake Stringer. I think for Jordan de Goey. So it's time to sell him. I'm jumping off. But I probably won't be able to with the red dots. So
00:32:21
Speaker
He might be fielding yet again in my side. Yep, he's staying for me, unfortunately. Who's on your radar? This is our next one. On your radar, Louis, who's on your radar?
Monitoring Adam Treloar's Performance
00:32:30
Speaker
This is a player that you're monitoring closely, not ready to pounce just yet because of their price. Maybe their matchup this week. But who's a guy on your radar? So for me, it's a bloke that I think every single serious fantasy coach in this competition is tracking right now. And coming off a 103 or 106 on the weekend, it's Adam Treloar.
00:32:50
Speaker
He's back in that center bounce brigade. We didn't see that in the first week. We saw a little bit of an uptick in the second week. Then in the third week, he's well and truly in that engine room and she looks good. He's bursting out of stoppages. He's kicking goals and he's just being his usual Adam Shaw 110 averaging self. So yes, it's a concern that that role will be volatile. And don't get me wrong, every single dog's midfielder in that team, it's going to be a volatile role.
00:33:19
Speaker
So yeah, okay. Macrae might have his 27 CBAs at the moment. I'm just saying that there's a good chance that that can drop by 10 the following week and liver takes them up, you know, so.
00:33:30
Speaker
That's where I'm getting out with that one. Yeah, but your law still a very nice option at his price and you just just want to see just want to see a week or two more maybe. I think I think you can go early. You can definitely go there, but I would wait one more week. He's got a little bit of a cash rise to fall further and then it's time to start working out how you get Adam Treloar into your team and at 700 K.
00:33:53
Speaker
It's really easy actually. Jordan Gulli might be a candidate. I like it. On your radar heif. A bit of a more of a left field one and I don't think too many people would be considering this one. But a player that I have a bit of an affinity for and that's Toby Green. So let me explain myself here. All right. How to run points on the weekend.
00:34:11
Speaker
He only scored 73 in the first week, but had 99 points the weekend previously. He's priced at right now, 638K. I actually had my notes, it would be around 640, so I'm pretty impressed with myself how close I got that, writing it before the show docs started, before the round closed. But look, he's doing it without getting a heap of CBAs, but what we saw as well was Canelio out now, because he's potential to move back in there. I think the issue has been, I guess, GWS, which is just, will they continue being this shit?
00:34:38
Speaker
Um, will there be opportunities for him to score goals? Um, but they come up against Collingwood this weekend, usually pretty fantasy friendly team to play against. Um, I think at his price, I'm not saying trade him in, but let's just have a look at him for a bit because he could be legitimate options. Yeah, definitely. If I turn the Hawkeye on, uh, the other day when Cogs and DeBoer went down, I was just looking for Toby green CBAs because especially when the guy like, I think Brent Daniels, was it? Yeah. So Brent Daniels, they were saying on the coverage, don't want him to be the guy actually delivering inside 50.
00:35:08
Speaker
They've got Bobby Hill, they've got Toby Green, and they've also got, sorry, not Brent Daniels, the other one down there, who? Himmelberg or? Oh no, he's sort of a- He's doing one of the Smalls. Yeah, he's sort of like a medium forward, but Lloyd, Daniel Lloyd. So yeah, it's an interesting forward line at the Giants.
00:35:27
Speaker
but I think they still want to use Toby green. I don't think they should be, but I'm not sure. They just want that change of pace in the midfield. Yeah, I agree. I was, I was looking out for the, for the Toby green midfield resurgence, but he's good enough. He's going good enough down forward is what heff is saying. Yeah, definitely. And like, I think we will see a bump over the next few weeks.
00:35:45
Speaker
and he's scoring okay. Really good sign actually. My three guys are on a team that has been struggling a little bit but got the W on the weekend only just after the siren. Three Brisbane players that I've got on my radar. Dane Zorko, he's looking like an easy top six forward. The fact he's scoring amazingly well this early, he's had two performances where he actually did pretty well on a pour.
00:36:09
Speaker
The Disposals were right down, they were at the bottom of the league for Disposals, yet he still scored well. And then two other guys, Humor Cluggage and Locky Neal. Humor Cluggage is probably the prototype of guys that play inside and outside. That's just what we've said all preseason that's gonna be conducive to good fantasy scores, and he had 118 on the weekend. If he can produce that a couple more times, or one more time, I might jump on board. Locky Neal, just wait for the price plummets, see if he can get back to his best there. What do you guys think on Brizzy?
00:36:38
Speaker
Yeah, Zorko's a go early now, so his price is going to start to climb at the 130 plus on the weekend with a 120-ish break even. So he's someone that now is the time to strike, maybe wait one more week, but definite top six. Love Dane Zorko as a player and has incredible ceiling. Lockie Neal is an interesting one because he's got that back injury that he's spoken about that's affecting him, but he's still going to play football at this point.
00:37:03
Speaker
It's a bit of a weird one where yeah, he gets cheap enough, you've got lock in you. Supposedly he still scores 105 plus, yes that's a good option, but I'll just be cautious with it. They're gonna rest their best player.
00:37:15
Speaker
before the grand final, if they make it. I mean, this is a grand final. They'll rest humour cluggage? Anyway, humour cluggage isn't worth talking about in classic circles yet. Oh yeah, probably right there. All right, we'll quickly bang through this. We're going to go through this next segment quickly because we're already pushing the time barriers. Again, we did the same on the Keep a Leak podcast before, but this one's Show Me The Money.
Evaluating Top Rookie Candidates
00:37:38
Speaker
So this is our top five
00:37:39
Speaker
Roughly top five, we might throw a few more in there. Rookie candidates based not just on breakeven, so we're not just going to read out the best breakevens for rookies. This is based on their job security, namely as well as their breakeven that's going to make you some cash. But I think we've obviously got to talk about. Dev Robinson, I just want a let's go one quick answer from each of you. No big sentences on this one. Just one quick answer. Dev Robinson, Louis.
00:38:06
Speaker
So you're asking me not to use big sentences. That's tough, Dossie. But Dev Robertson obviously had elite junior scoring numbers. I've said that a few times tonight. He's breaking into that side, perhaps. But we look at it. Jared Berry's the looming one, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. We look at it. I want to answer that with job security. Yeah, we look at the full strength side of the lines. And I'm not sure that Dev Robertson has more than two weeks in him. So yeah, he has a really good break, even.
00:38:33
Speaker
And if you got on him last week, well done. You probably get one more week out of him, but I'd be really cautious jumping on him this way. Yeah. See, I don't know if that is like, he's well done if he does get dropped because then you've got another, you got a donut, another red dog. A lot of coaches had him on field. If you get a 94 from Morocco, you take that. But, uh, yeah, going past next week, I wouldn't be confident in his job security at all. Chris Burgess.
00:38:59
Speaker
You're slowly making me come around to him. I think he's probably gonna have one of the better like now that they don't have a rock Gold Coast I think he's gonna be used in that role and he probably will to spend some time up forward as well He's the only probably decent listed defender at that at his price and we've all got Hayden Young who is injured So I reckon he's one of the better options this week
00:39:19
Speaker
So the whole point is that he's going to replace wits in the ruck while wits is out. Zack Smith, who's their other ruckman, is also injured for four or five weeks. And this is an article that was written back when wits he was fit and firing in the pre-season. This is the quote, in the worst case scenario that wits would fall foul of injury.
00:39:38
Speaker
And then they also say he's played 79 of 83 games since joining the Suns. So he has fallen foul of injury guys, just to let you know. Fallen foul. Juice said they could turn to undersized swing man, Chrissy Burgess, before Smith returns. Burgess.
00:39:55
Speaker
Chrissy Burgess Anyway, he's very cheap and defender eligible and some really nice matchups on the ruck side of things If he does get that role just monitor that Alec Waterman We haven't gone short sentences, but Alec Waterman Louie. Yeah, so he was a straightforward pick for me this This week just because he's mature age. He's been able to do it at a junior level many years ago and was able to replicate that at waffle level and now he's in
00:40:23
Speaker
an AFL system and he's really just getting results basically. We saw that he kicked three goals in the preseason game, finally got his go this week and slotted in nicely. I think he kicked two goals, 68 points or something like that. Job security should be up there. Bang the goal from 50 out. Job security extremely high given Essendon's injuries at the moment. So I really like Alec Waterman. He's probably my number one rookie this week.
00:40:47
Speaker
Alright, I like that. So that's three. Now the next two in our top five that we've got is probably a toss up between the next names and I want you to pick two. You both to pick two and see if you land on the same spot. So I've got Heath Chapman. I think he might be a bit expensive but his job security must be the highest out of the lot. Hayden Young injured at Fremantle. He had a really nice scoring game with three frees against as well. So he could have scored an 80 in that game pretty easily.
00:41:15
Speaker
Heff do you like Heath Chapman and the other guys we've got sorry Charlie Lazaro Max Holmes from Geelong and Tom Fullerton he got absolutely belted by Grundy we saw the the image out there it wasn't pretty but he did have 17 touches and if the big O is out that's the only reason I'd pick him Heff who's your best two out of that we've got to limit this to five I think we've gone with Dev Rob Chris Burgess and Alex Waterman Alec Waterman as our three who makes the cut in the top five
00:41:42
Speaker
I like Heath Chapman out of those, just now with Hayden Young being injured. Plus we saw a role that is conducive to fantasy scoring. Don't mind Waterman either, but I think I'm just a bit worried that the North Melbourne were buoyed by the plane North Melbourne a bit as well. So yeah, I think Heath Chapman for mine is my pick out of job security for them. And Louis, do you want to round out our five then pick one out of the Charlie Lazaro, Maxi Holmes or Tom Fullerton? Or have you got another one?
00:42:06
Speaker
I'll probably go Tom Forden who I think is the cheapest there and the lowest break even. All right. This is our we've got one more segment and two more segments actually quickly. Lou looks ahead. This is one option based on the upcoming fixture alone. We should be considering Louis. Lou looks ahead.
Tom Mitchell's Favorable Matchups
00:42:24
Speaker
Yeah, so we've spoken about going early on players and I know it's really recent, but Titch dished up a 70 today. So his break even is going to blow up to, you know, 140, 150. It already wasn't favorable. What I'm saying is, you know what you're going to get from Titch. It's going to be 110 plus at a minimum this year and his next couple of matchups. Listen to me here, Dos.
00:42:46
Speaker
Fremantle, Melbourne, Adelaide, St Kilda, West Coast, North Melbourne, Halton, Gold Coast, and then the by.
00:42:56
Speaker
Beautiful. That is, those are some teams that Twitch is going to go to absolute work with. Tell me more. Probably have to have a look at who in those teams are taggers. Ed Cano at Colton Springs to mine immediately, but I think in terms of sealing over the next seven or eight weeks, Tom Mitchell is going to be up there with the best of them. I love that pick. Now this is our final segment. It's called the Pod Pod Pod.
00:43:19
Speaker
So it is the point of difference podcasts point of difference of the week and half is our special guest he's got the honors of the pot pot pot.
00:43:29
Speaker
I really like Jack Bose as I think we talked about it earlier, just about his role with the kick-ins. He's going to take all of those. He's going to be racking up plus three's all night. Plus the game style that Gold Coast are playing, chipping around a lot in their defense. I really like him at the moment. So that's my Pod Pod Pod. Beautiful hair for lover. And we're getting onto our listener questions.
Listener Questions and Advice
00:43:46
Speaker
Now you can follow us at Pod Pod AFL on Twitter. Uh, and these questions came through this afternoon. This one from Ninja spoon, Jordan Clark,
00:43:57
Speaker
Does he have the role or should I trade down to a rookie and upgrade somewhere else? We've mentioned it a few times, Louis. What's your thoughts? Certainly doesn't have the role, but I'd be hesitant about trading him down to a rookie given his 450K. It seems like a lot of points to sacrifice. I'd look at going up or sideways. All right. Maybe an Isaac Cummings, probably the best option there. Like that. Jorgen Anderson bringing Gaff, Treloar or McLuggage. He's going a bit of a unique option. Who do you like out of those? Gaff, Treloar or McLuggage?
00:44:24
Speaker
uh jeez it's tough between gaff and it's between gaff and trellor for mine i would probably go gaff just purely because he's dropped a bit in price trellor's probably on the rise am i correct in saying no no still on the way down 700k trell yeah okay about 50k less gaff is on the up now
00:44:42
Speaker
I like, I like half. All right, Matt Motrum, best rookies this week. So we just sort of mentioned our top five there, but he wants to know about Waterman, Burgess, it's at a rate, rate them please. We just have. So I think we've already done his one, but he says the big one, the big question here to text or not to text. He's, uh, he's asked me the same. He's had the dossies dilemma of to text or not to text. What's the final answer, Louie?
00:45:07
Speaker
Go with your gut. All right. And he wants to ask me personally, do I keep the arc for another week? He backed me in as well and got Nora Anderson, but we'll get a non-bias opinion. Heff, do we keep rolling on with the arc? Now you've brought him in, which if you would have listened to us in the first place, you shouldn't have. But now that you've brought him in, you've got to roll with him. You've got bigger issues. Agreed. Mad as Mel asks, I have two force trades this week with Wits and Young Plus.
00:45:35
Speaker
Bank total is one million. What? $118,000. Is it better to grab Grundy and a rookie or move Flynn to R2 and bring in some undervalued mid prices? Also has Bergman, Cahill and Highmore that are all concerns. Heff, could you handle that mouthful? Jesus, that is a long question. A million in the bank, that is huge.
00:46:03
Speaker
That's unheard of. That's crazy. I think you need, I'm assuming you don't have gone. So I think you need Grundy in there. So I'll just go with that for sure. All right. It sounds good to me. Next one from Tom DT. It's probably the last week we get to jump on coming. Do we jump on even if we have another non playing rookie or fix up all rookie spots first is our answer. Fix those red dots.
00:46:27
Speaker
I would have to see Cummings break even this week because I know it was 18 last week. There's still a little bit of cash to be made. I think coming gets to 550, 560, 570K. I'm on the board. Depends on the rookie, I think. I think you've answered your question earlier though. His price is probably in that bracket of the guys that we're talking about that we bring in and you can't find a way to get rid of him. Would that not be the same for coming, but you think he'll just score enough?
00:46:53
Speaker
Oh, I think Karmic scores enough. What I've seen is that he can probably average 80 from here on. Yeah, I agree. I legit think he can average 80. He looks great. Plus six is everywhere. So yeah, he's someone that I think can sort of level out at 580K. Brake evens 19, by the way. 19? Yeah. Jump on.
00:47:09
Speaker
Yeah, OK. Marley says, have he has wits and young. Should I go wits to Grundy or Flynn? He has gone at R1. Then through DPP, I could easily get any primo for young. And then who should that primo be? Thanks, heaps, boys. That from Marley.
00:47:29
Speaker
Yeah, well, yeah, if you can do it, then do it. Get Grundy in. Set and forget your rucks. That's good, isn't it? Yeah. And then you can get, do you say then you can get any primo in or is he saying that if he does, then he can't get... What primo should that be? No, no, sorry. But is he saying that he can get a primo in as well as getting... I could easily get any primo for young. Yeah, but is that without the ruck trade? Is what I'm saying? No, that's... Is he choosing between getting the primo ruck in and or getting primo defender in? Is that the question? Yes. Yeah. So he's asking, do I bring in Matt Flynn?
00:47:59
Speaker
and sacrifice that R2, or do I bring in a different rookie and go pre-mode dependent, I guess? I think you'd need to, I would personally, I'd probably at this point in time with Young, is just probably shore up the spot in defence, because if you can just play Flynn as your ruck too, is that what he's saying? I'd get Grundy as a non-owner of Grundy, it's gonna kill you every week, I think. And he's already, his price don't get too much lower than this, right, Louis?
00:48:26
Speaker
Yep, yep. Yeah, I don't know I just think I feel like if you don't go if you don't replace young with something half-decent you can have a huge hole in your side whereas Flynn can put up something half reasonable as a ruck too and Then you can don't have you know, you're not forced to play someone like Burgess on field. That's the only thing I'm thinking
00:48:41
Speaker
All right, you've got two different opinions there. I suppose now it's just follow your gut there. I do agree with half. It's just tricky with Flynn being 350K now. If this was last week, I would have said Flynn because he had the minus 29 breaker. Yeah, it's tough.
00:48:57
Speaker
Carla C. Hi guys, would love your thoughts on Jack Sinclair. So is this more of the caper league pod question here for heath? Because surely if you've got him, okay. I think it's the same question from the same person. It is. If you've got him in classic, get rid of him. If you've got him in draft, get rid of him. If you've got him in a caper league draft, you might be able to bench him to see what happens and pick us up off the waiver wire. But in classic, you need to go for sure.
00:49:19
Speaker
All right, Sam Sill, should we get texts or is it a trap? Just fine. We've already said you guys. I think it's a trap. With the fixture. No, it's price. It's a trap. If the price doesn't impact you and you can afford that and you've got heaps of case, say you've got a million on the bank like the last person does. I'm on record. I don't think it's a trap.
00:49:35
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's dependent on your team, where it sits. Right now, I've got Hayden Young in defence, I've got Paddy Dow, I've got to get the fuck out of my team. Then he's not an option for me, but if you've got the luxury to do it, I don't mind it. Yeah, Dos, I think you're right. Maybe it's not a trap, but I think you're putting yourself in a position to trap yourself. So, shrewd coaches will get out of that position, make their cash move on.
00:49:57
Speaker
But some coaches are going to get stuck. It is juicy. Steve-O, is green a good forward option now that Cogs is out? Heff, you'd love it. Yes, I think he is. Timothy Jayne, this is another text question. We've gone through the text one is to go to text a serious option from Nick. Lots of people liking the text option. We'll just move on from the text ones now. I think we've answered that.
00:50:22
Speaker
The thing is with text just really quickly is now he's not going to be a point of difference, which is this is the pod pod as well. It would have been greater last week because not as many people had gone on him. You don't want to have just the same guys everyone else has as well. So it's a hard thing to consider. You can if they're if they're a genuine option. It's whether you believe it.
00:50:39
Speaker
So if you believe he is a genuine option, I'm kind of leaning towards, I think he's still going to get you some monster scores for a few weeks. In that case, jump on board and that's kind of where I'm leaning right now. These guys are more skeptical that he's going to be a problem. So you've just got to judge what you think and back yourself in 100% on it and don't look back. Nick wants to know though, he wants to also know, does he use DPP to trade, Sloan in instead?
00:51:02
Speaker
I reckon you've probably missed the boat's loan now. I agree. I had a start's loan. Yeah. Joe Blogg, who to trade out first. Hayden Young, Will Powell, Dow, Cahill, or Sharp. Gee, that's a few red dots. If you've got the luxury, I don't see Sharp getting in at all again. So if you've got the luxury just to get rid of him to someone else who's cheap and that will actually make you money, I'd probably just do that. But yeah, I don't know. What do you think, Luke?
00:51:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'd probably do it in order of job security, I think. Yeah, true. Young's done a string, too. You get rid of him first, eh? Oh, of course. Sorry to miss that one in there. Yeah. You definitely get rid of the injured blokes. Yeah. All right, injured, then the job security factor. And which two best rookies to bring in? What did we settle on in the best two? Best two.
00:51:40
Speaker
I would probably go Robertson and Burgess. Robertson for the break haven, Burgess for the job security. You're a Waterman. I'm Waterman and Burgess. Waterman Burgess. All right. And heff, obviously the other way. If you want to go that way. Oscar, best rookies to bring in and potentially field at D6F6. All right. We just answered that as well. When should we be looking to bring in a big dog at R2 to replace Flynn?
00:52:05
Speaker
Does he mean bringing a big dog though, Louis? Does he mean a Hickey? A big dog? He's got a nice match up this week, doesn't he? So, look, Hickey, hasn't he just surprised? He was an option for me in, I reckon, December. He was in my team and I went, nah, I can't pick Tom Hickey. 400k. Geez, turned out all right, but nah, I think you've got to wait till after the buy. What you said about the buy was perfect, Lou.
00:52:31
Speaker
Lex Turnbull, who is the fallen premium to prepare to pounce on? And we've talked about all these, but which one do we like most? Actually, we didn't talk about one. Gaff, Oliver, Neil, Lloyd or other. So Lloyd's the one for you. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's the probably going to be the clear defender or top six defender lock in. I think the winner, like I said before, the winner of the highlights will have Lloyd. I'm not sure if the winner of the highlights would have Oliver. A lot of the top teams didn't have Oliver last year. Who are the other ones?
00:53:01
Speaker
That was just Gaff, Neil, yeah, Gaff, Neil, Oliver, Lloyd. I think Lloyd is, yeah, the most certain one that I'm certain is gonna be in the best team of the year. Don't mind it. Darren wants to know, is Burgess an option for young? Yes. We've all said yes. Allows you the dollars to go, to go to Dunkley. Oh, that's a very nice one. Or he wants to know, go up to a coming instead of a Burgess. So I guess that is the other option. I'd play it safe and go up to coming. If you're playing him on the field, go to coming. Yeah.
00:53:27
Speaker
I'm gone Burgess out of that so you have a lot of split opinion like a not actually pronouncing it but just anymore as well. It's when I say Chrissy when it's Chrissy Burgess it's Chrissy Burgess and then it's just Burgess if it's not okay Brady beer thoughts on Josh Kelly seems to be playing half forward with no mid time at all Louis you were big on Josh Kelly in the pre-season I was pretty came into what's going on.
00:53:52
Speaker
I can't tell you what's going on, Doss. It's a bit of a mystery to me as well. Yes, you suck. Canelio went down. De Boer went down, as I've already mentioned, and I thought, okay, great. Josh Kelly can get involved in the play, and he can be someone that we can jump on in the next few weeks. No, he just stayed at half forward. I don't know what Leon Cameron was doing. Obviously, you're still able to find the ball. It's Josh Kelly. He's a superstar. It's really interesting.
00:54:18
Speaker
It's a contract year for him. He's probably, he's not in that midfield group. I don't know. There's just not a lot of things adding up. I wouldn't be bringing him in in any way. You talk about fallen premiums, um, ones to watch. He's got to be one. He's, he's one of the best, but you're not in that role. That's the problem. That's it. If he gets it though, it's jump on, isn't it? If he gets it. Yeah. It's not until then it's yeah. But why didn't he last week? I don't know what's going on in the whole last season as well.
00:54:45
Speaker
Strange, strange scenes. It's like the dicey parish conundrum. He's just not playing inside where he should be playing. John Vogan, carnage. Got the wits injury as well as young and called well. Does he get big max in or play Flynn and upgrade other lines?
00:55:02
Speaker
If you've got Finn's team, play Flynn. Play Flynn. Yeah. Fixed. Fixed tour. This one from AJS Hawker. We've only got a couple more here, boys. No defender bench rookies. Young Hammy. No set and forget. Rux. All 170K. Underperforming primos. Where to start? Hashtag keep paddling. Not a question. I think that's just fight on AJ. Just grab that laptop and throw it in the river.
00:55:26
Speaker
In terms of a starting point, make sure you've got cover in your lines. You don't want to cop a donor on top of all the carnage you've already had, so that's where I'd probably be directing my...
00:55:36
Speaker
My attention first. Yeah, Chipway. One final play to talk about, I might even just touch on him. It's Jordan Dawson, who's been one of my boys for a long time, wants to talk about him in classic setting. I can't touch him in classic. There's too many males to feed in the Sydney defence, and he just versed one of the easiest scoring teams for defenders in Richmond, even though I do love the men.
00:55:57
Speaker
Did you jump on him at the end of last year as well? Because I did. I did last year. So did I. But the thing is, he was playing wing. Yeah, he was a different one. And he had that deaf forward position, which was really handy last year. The problem is in the off season, Sydney went and picked up Errol Gordon and Braden Campbell, who with her just time and time again, they're great ball users. I know Jordan Dawson is too, but they're going to have to share the ball around. So I think that Jordan Dawson
00:56:21
Speaker
He's probably at his peak now. We're not going to see much more upside in him unless that role changes. I love him as a player. I've got him in my keep leg side, my home leg. But you saw on the weekend, I started like a house on fire and just peered away. So he's not something I could touch in classic, no.
00:56:40
Speaker
Great, well that lads is all the questions and we thank you very much Heph for joining us. No problems. On the pod, on the pod pod. Pod pod. We've been getting a few Apple reviews too, so keep getting those through. We'll try and read out a few on the next podcast. We're running short of time this time, but appreciate all the ratings and reviews on the Point of Difference AFL fantasy podcast on Apple. Thanks, Louis and Heph. Been a pleasure. No problems. Take it easy. Good on you, Darcy.