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Harry Potter Showrunner & DIrector Confirmed, JK Rowling's Thoughts on the Pilot Script, Marauders Spinoff Show
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Introduction and Announcements
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Welcome to Peef's Gabfest, a chapter by chapter page to screen analysis of the Harry Potter series. Sometimes! I'm Meeks. I'm James. I guess sometimes I'm serenade. So today we're doing something different. We're doing news and feedback and more. We're giving you guys bonus content. So every other episode will be bonus content. So that's why now we're sometimes doing a chapter by chapter page to screen analysis. That will still be the bulk of what we do. But anyways, before we start gabbing, we wanted to give a spoiler warning. We will be using our vast knowledge of the wizarding world to compare the page to the screen and we may or and bonus content and we may gab about moments that happen later in the books or the films. You've been warned, Dickle Firsties. You've been warned that we're going to have an interesting episode tonight.
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New HBO Series Discussion
00:03:33
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Welcome back listeners. I, Sarah Day, am going to kick us off with some recent headlines. We are finally getting news and we haven't talked about it on the cast, but we are here tonight to do so, or in the morning, wherever you may be listening to this episode. So first, all aboard the Hogwarts Express, the HBO Harry Potter series has confirmed its showrunner and director. According to a Variety, Succession alums Francesca Gardner and Mark Mylod are here for Harry Potter. Gardner has been tapped to serve as showrunner and executive producer of the series.
00:04:17
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while Mylod is on board to direct multiple episodes, as well as executive produce. Gardner has also been involved with Killing Eve and his Dark Materials, while Mark, Mylod has directed episodes of Game of Thrones, Shameless, Once Upon a Time, and Entourage. Yeah, yeah it's a very exciting time. I'm i'm really curious about the them being contracted or whatever to do ah to direct
00:04:52
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multiple episodes like what that means and if they have already chosen which episodes like if they've already kind of come up with a layout at which I mean I guess that would make sense right if they had to I guess audition for a lack of a better term to be the showrunners so they probably have like proposed that this is how the episodes are going to be laid out and so then they would Say which ones they're gonna direct because they they have a certain vision or the those episodes are gonna have a certain vibe Well, so from what I understand about the business and you know, anybody can correct me if they're if I'm wrong ever To correct you can showrunners
00:05:36
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Uh, and executive producers are kind of like the people in the background where they get another team to come in and direct. And so if I'm trying to like read the stuff, so they're both, you know, Gardner is a showrunner and executive producer, but Malloy is on board to direct multiple episodes as well as produce. So when I think of this combination, I think of, if anybody knows anything about Star Wars, I think of, um, Oh, I'm blanking on the names. Dave Filoni. Yes. Excuse me, two points for half a buff? Yes, two points for half a buff. Ah, the guy who directed Iron Man got staked. Because I'm just blowing up the spreadsheet. Oh my gosh, thank you. Two more points for half a buff? Did not ever think about that was John. Four more total, thank you. And we're only a couple minutes in, wow. Yes, I know. Anyways, John Favreau and Dave Filoni
00:06:34
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but kind of double-team Star Wars with the with like the Mandalorian and some of the other stuff that came out. in the As they started out, it was Dave Filoni, executive producing, and then Jon Favreau coming in and directing a few episodes and also being executive producer. But they brought on ah a whole other team of directors to direct other episodes and bring other things. and so I'm thinking these two are kind of the same idea they're gonna help run the show and Mark is going to direct a couple of episodes maybe some of the more important ones most likely that are gonna like kind of give the aesthetic and feel but they're gonna bring on other people to help tell the story and an overarching idea and so that's what I'm seeing with these guys I don't think that they're it's just gonna be these two alone I just think that these two are going to be
00:07:32
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the top creatives that are going to be working with JK Rowling and the studio to be like, what are we wanting this to look like? And then they are taking that information and then sending it down the line to all the people who are actually going to put it together. Have either of you seen Succession? No, I have not. I've only seen clips of it. And I haven't either. Mainly because I don't have HBO. But what I have seen. Are you going to get HBO before 2025?
00:08:06
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Yeah, I'm going to have to. But what I'm probably going to do is get it while the show is on and then cancel it while the show is not on and stuff like that. And so I'm going to stack up my shows because, like, for example, White Lotus is coming out soon. And so when White Lotus comes out is when I will get HBO for the duration of the show. And I'll also stack up and rewatch Veep and I'll just watch whatever else I need to watch on HBO and then I'll cancel it after. So I hope HBO is not listening. I haven't seen Succession either, but I have seen Killing Eve. I just recently watched that because she was attached to Harry Potter. So I have seen Killing Eve. I've seen the first season and maybe part of the second season of His Dark Materials. I've obviously seen Game of Thrones, Shameless, Once Upon a Time, and I have it. I've seen Entourage here and there because my parents watched it growing up. All of that to say. seen all of them
00:09:04
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i i But again, I haven't seen Succession, which is what they've worked together. But all of that to say, i you know we've talked about on the podcast before how we are expecting it to be kind of an older telling of this story, um more so than what the movies were. And based on um while sorry while an an older darker telling while keeping that comedic charm, and um based on killing eve shameless um once upon a time was on like abc family at the time so it had to be a little bit more light-hearted but at the same time i still can see
00:09:48
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that balance in these shows that we've wanted to see in Harry Potter. So this gives me very, very high hopes that we're going to get what we want, where it's going to be an older, darker version of these books, but still keep that um comedic beats where where they're needed, um especially while looking at Killing Eve. Again, I haven't seen Succession, so I would like to watch the first season at least to get an idea of what how they work together. But with Killing Eve, it's about an assassin and a British. Am I six? Or are those the five guys? I don't know, but we should ask Karen, our British correspondent. I know, Karen, help us out here. Anyway, and so it's very dark and brutal.
00:10:39
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ah And Jodie Comer, which was one of the people I cast in in our season one, is the assassin. um And she's a great actress, so I definitely want to see her in the show. Anyway, I'm excited. I think it's going to be great. like This has gotten me even more excited about this show.
J.K. Rowling's Involvement
00:11:03
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I agree. I haven't seen much of anything on here. The only ones I'm really familiar with is just Once Upon a Time, and I've seen bits and pieces of Game of Thrones. I have not actually watched it all the way through. What? Yeah, I know, right? Isn't that interesting? Me either. What? Yay, Ravenclaw's in the same boat. I've heard it's good though.
00:11:29
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I have heard it's good and I won't deny that or anything like that, but like from the stuff that I've seen and how well I know those series, I am excited to see this more
00:11:44
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thematic like not um not a thematic change but more of like a um environment change to kind of see how well they're going to portray that because I do believe like taking just once upon a time and in for example like that did a really good job of combining fantastical elements to a more realistic world modern more modern take on on the on the stories and I you know one of my favorite shows to to be sure um So I'm interested to see them kind of do the same thing where they take that magical element of Harry Potter and maybe combine it with um some of those stuff that that we've been missing. Some of that more darker tones, some of that more who modern elements that we're looking for, things like that. Well, hopefully
00:12:38
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hopefully they can they can use the darker tones in a more accurate way I guess because you know the books book or films the last four films are very dark but it's like and they feel one-dimensional is not the right word because that definitely is not true they don't they don't They don't totally feel one-dimensional there they I think that they do the films are very enjoyable and good and everything but um as for the portraying the Harry Potter world They're definitely like a lot more dark in the films than anything else and the films are so much more light-hearted especially the fifth movie
00:13:24
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and the fifth book I feel like are the most different because it had been a while for me since I well and we'll get to this when we do our chapter by chapter page to screen analysis of the Order of the Phoenix but I feel I it was kind of like a felt almost like a culture shock when I reread the fifth book after I had um after I had watched the film because I watched the film and then I hadn't read the books for a couple years. And then I had seen the film a couple times and the film is so dark. That film is so dark. It's not bad, but it's dark. And then I was like, wow, the fifth book must like.
00:14:03
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i didn't remember it being that dark but maybe i just forgot and then i read it and i'm like this is like the funniest book so for me it's actually one of my favorites because we all know that i like the funny stuff and i feel like it's actually way more light-hearted um than it seems like it would be based on the content um and so anyways the films are very intense and dark that's what my whole point was and so hopefully these showrunners will be able to add in the dark stuff because there it's a lot of heavy content that's happening. I mean, it's the most evil wizard in the world ever um trying to constantly attack a teenage boy. So I feel like they need to have the darkness, but there's way more lighthearted stuff in the books. And so if they're going to try to stick with the books, then hopefully they pay tribute to that. Hopefully they don't just take the lighthearted stuff and go, bye. With the dark stuff,
00:15:01
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know what the light started stuff just throw oh yeah oh i said stuff and go fine. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, I think based on their previous works, they're gonna do a good job balancing the two and that's what we would like to see. Correct. Especially because succession does have a lot of that dark humor, but the other ones don't have Okay, who am I? I haven't watched like any of these other ones except for Once Upon A Time. Actually, I have seen some shameless, so they they definitely can have some, they know how to add in the humor, but it I am hopeful, but a little concerned that they're not gonna be able to do enough of the enough of the humor, and that will disappoint Meeks over here. I don't think you should be concerned because I think... Fine.
00:15:50
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other Other than Game of Thrones, well, and his dark materials, but Shameless, Killing Eve, and Entourage both had lots of comedy, I think. So I think you're going to get what you want. I think we all are. It's all about me.
00:16:16
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Thank you. Okay, take a seat Rita Skeeter. JKR has read the pilot script and has this to say of the showrunner and director. Both have a genuine passion for Harry Potter and having read Francesca's pilot script and heard Mark's vision, I am certain the TV show will more than live up to expectations.
00:16:49
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and I mean, okay, sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but she has to say that. I mean,
00:17:00
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I mean, i'm not eating boy I mean, she could have no comment. I guess they're the ones who were chosen. Of course, she's going to say that. I don't know. I'm not saying that they're not. So she picked them like she had a hand in picking them. Right. Well, that's why it just feels kind of funny to me because like a little does she feels that way. Well, yeah, well, I guess it's more of like, this is why she picked them. So think of it more as like, um okay, like, so I've, I read all of these scripts for these pilots, right? And this was the best one that this is the one that's going to live up to expectations out of the three that she met with or whatever. Okay, fine. We know that these two are great because she chose them. Whatever. Boring. I want to hear J.K. Rowling talk about all of the rejected scripts and the rejected showrunners and figure out why she didn't like them. I want to hear that. I want this British woman to give me the tea. That would be some type of tea.
00:17:57
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Well, and I get it's like, so she says they have a genuine passion. And so again, I think reading the three different scripts or however, I think it was three people that actually went and met with her. I don't remember. Um, but reading their scripts. You can tell, you can tell who's read the books, who wants the show to be success. Like you don't want to be, you can tell who actually likes Harry Potter and doesn't just want to be attached to the next Game of Thrones for like clout. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. And so I think she, thank you. Two points for Hufflepuff. Oh my goodness. She's trying to get those points today. When are James and I going to get something?
00:18:38
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Step it up, guys. um But yeah, so I like this quote. the way I mean, there's it's all about phrasing, right? Like, yeah, she has to say something positive, but speaking to their passion and expectations for like our expectations, the audience, I think that ah that got me excited. Fine. Fine. Yeah.
Bonus Content Segment
00:19:14
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Let's talk about some more of the fun stuff. okay News is great, but let's talk about all the stuff we enjoy. I enjoy the news. I know what you're talking about.
00:19:32
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I mean, I enjoy this kind of news. not it Well, to me, none of this news is getting me too excited yet. What? I'm so pumped. Throw me some casting announcements and then I'll get started. No, I know, I know. I cannot wait. But that's got to be next, right? Hopefully, maybe. We'll cross our fingers. We'll we'll find out. ah Okay, Ickle-firsties. As part of our bonus content, we have a lot of stuff that we know we can cover and that we like to talk about. And sometimes we just don't get into all of it in our lovely episodes as we do our analysis from the page to the screen.
00:20:17
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And we sometimes discover things as we're doing a little bit more, great like d diving into how the movies were made, or sometimes we see people post their reactions to things that they found out, all that kind of stuff. And we go, man, that would have been fun to talk about. So that's necessarily what we're going to be doing today. So get ready for the thing that I just dubbed, Peeves's Surprises. as we talk about some of the things that surprised us as we were kind of going through. And the first one I want to like talk about because I had no idea for sure and I ba believe Sarah Day and me
00:21:01
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had no idea either, but Hagrid was a puppet. I guess is like is ah is a close enough word for it. ah Basically there was an actor in a bodysuit of a Hagrid and he played Hagrid in a bodysuit. while they also had Robbie Coltrane to the side. So if you pull up some pictures, I encourage you to do so. ah You'll see Robbie Coltrane sitting there and then right next to him is just a full-on giant version up to scale and everything ah of a Hagrid right next to him. And what they did was just basically put a guy who was tall as his stunt double to into the bodysuit.
00:21:46
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which was made out of ah clothes that were covering some medical ah metal contraptions that basically formed the shape of Hagrid and then he would control them with grips and stuff i into that thing and then they would put a mask of Hagrid's face on top of his head. And he would just go around walking and doing the actions, which i like just blew my mind. And so they when they did close ups on Hagrid's face, they would use the actor, but when they did kind of full on body versions, they would use this double to go and do that. it It was so crazy seeing this. And I can't believe that I didn't know. I mean,
00:22:33
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I can't believe that wasn't like way more common knowledge, I guess. But it makes so much sense because I did always wonder like, wow, they did a really good job with the special effects of having Hagrid be so much bigger. But it makes so much more sense because it did look really good. And it's because it was a practical effect. Not all of it. I mean, obviously, they had to do CGI. much of the time. Yeah, sometimes they did do CGI stuff where they would have Robbie stand in front of a green screen, say his lines, and then take his face and put it on the puppet, the body double or or sorts. I don't even know what to call it, guys. That's like how weird this thing is. Well, it's like an animatronic thing. I mean, what what is Buckbeak? what What did they call Buckbeak? Buckbeak is an animatronic, whereas this one was pop piloted by a person.
00:23:23
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like somebody was inside. It's like a movie costume at Disneyland, but animatronic. Something like that. i Exactly. That's how hard it is for me to explain it because I just I'm not used to the idea of that being happening, but it makes a lot more sense and it's just kind of cool. How do you guys wanna see this ah Hagrid? Sorry, not this. How do you guys wanna see Hagrid and his height in Madam Maxine and then the actual giants portrayed in the show? Specifically because, well, I guess let me ask you, do you think his size was big enough in the films or do you think he should be portrayed bigger? They could always go a little bit bigger, but I think he was pretty close.
00:24:11
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I feel like my instinct is bigger, but he's pretty big. So ah you get the point. I guess i mean he was he was probably about eight to nine feet tall in the movies, I would imagine. And isn't he twice in the very first description of him? Don't isn't it that he's twice as tall as a grown man and then five times as wide? and i Am I missing something like that?
00:24:40
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I think so. Well, uh, Wikipedia says that Hagrid, Oh wait, in the film he's portrayed as being eight foot, eight foot, six inches in the film, but that's the movie. Yeah. 11 feet, six inches in the book. There we go. So he's not tall enough. So he, he, I think in the show, he would probably work to be a little bit bigger. Do we think that they're going to do that? I guess it just depends on what they want to, how how they want to do it. Like if they want to do it the same way they did it in the films, I don't know how tall you can do that. If they want to do it like split screen. They're going to have to like hire a stilt person or like, you know, one of the circus people who like walks around on stilts. Cause then we also, cause he's only a half giant. Like so he, cause we also have the giants. Right. So those will be CGI. I mean, I'm sure.
00:25:38
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And they really cut all of that Madam Maxine and Hagrid going to find them out of the movies. So I'd like to see that back in. And that's why I'm like, I want to know what their vision is for the Giants and half Giants. His first description was a giant of a man was standing in the doorway. His face was almost completely hidden by long shaggy mane of hair and a wild tangled beard. But you could make out his eyes glinting like black beetles under all the hair. But it doesn't talk about how like how tall he was. and Not at least not in on this um Wikipedia page. And I don't feel like pulling out my Sorcerer's Stone book.
00:26:21
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Hatgird's hands are as big as dustpin lids, and his feet in their boots were like baby dolphins. oh Some very interesting descriptions right there. I know. OK, here it is, Meeks. He was about twice as tall as an average man standing at 11 feet, 6 inches, too big for an ordinary broomstick, and three times as wide. Oh, can I get one point? So close. Yeah, at one point. Thank you.
00:26:51
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What did you say, five? I said five, and I'm pretty sure it's because Dudley at one point is described as five times as wide. No, he I think his was like he finally reached his goal to be like twice as wide as he is tall or something, which I was always like, that is so unrealistic. I'm like, there's way. And I mean, I'm sure it's just Harry being sassy, but... Well, I also think it's um ah descriptions of people's bodies of the time. And so I'm really hoping that they do away with them with that.
00:27:30
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Yeah, I don't I don't need the Dudley, like, don't need be any of these. Yeah, well, and it's mostly them, of course. But there are times where I feel like there's other um characters, too. Well, that but that's just really common that like a character that's overweight is the bad one or is a gross one or something. Mm hmm. Hopefully, they don't really have that be part of it. I'm gonna do a keyword search for five times to see if I can find it in any of the books. On top of that, we also learned that Buckbeak was an actual live um animatronic.
00:28:16
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I guess is the perfect word for that. Are you gonna say an actual live hypocrite? I wish. We are opening the doors up to the Wizarding World and introducing you to Hippogriss for the first time. ah no like So a lot of people would probably assume that he was... animated through and through CGI'd all the way from the beginning to the end. But they actually decided to put in the effort. It took them, I want to say, two weeks to make two versions of Buckbeak. And it's a full-on animatronic
00:28:56
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um creature of sorts I guess and they sewed on and made every single individual feather that you see on it and it was a lot of hard work for the amount of time that they put it in there so when you think about it the reason why we see Buckbeak a lot is probably because they put so much time and money into making it that they didn't want to like not use it ah uh, for how much it costs to make. I just want to correct you real quick. Um, it's the quote is it took almost a year and a team of 20 to build three versions of Buckbeak. Oh, look at that. And she said it was one of the most challenging creatures she's ever worked on. And let me see if I can find the, the she that I'm speaking of the name that would be film costume expert and featherologist Val Jones.
00:29:55
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Does it actually say featherologist? God, I want that title. well It's in quotes, so I think they're there're making fun of it. But yes, it does say featherologist. You know what that reminds me of? Tell us. I just found out that, OK, famously, I'm very interested in gymnastics, for those of you who don't know. And so I just found out that the leotards that they unveiled for the women's team in gymnastics, for the Olympics, um has the most crystals on it. Well, like the fake crystals that have ever been put on leotards. 10,000 crystals on the leotards. 10,000. That is one leotard? Well, that's what I think, but I'm also like, I don't know that. Is that all of them? There's seven leotards.
00:30:41
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But there's also a whole kit. It's a little unclear. I feel like they're trying to make us think that it's each leotard. But I feel like there's no way that that's possible. Anyways, there's a New York Times article about how this is the most crystals ever put onto leotards because they're in Paris, which is the fashion capital of the world. So they have to be focusing on the fashion of the gymnasts. And I'm like, all right, we need to calm down a little bit. And then I found out. Is that dangerous to have the crystals on the leotards? Well, kind of. I mean, it's not necessarily dangerous for the gymnasts because they're not sharp at all. So like they they're not they wouldn't hurt you, but they have to be placed on certain spots on the leotards because they'll damage the equipment because of where. And that's what I'm like. Yeah. I mean, like if one of these falls off the suit, like. Yes, it's not.
00:31:30
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It's not a good idea. And so this article, like the way that they're describing how like elegant these crystals are and how they like improve the the performance of the gymnast, I'm like, no, they don't. Anyways, I learned a new word and featherologist reminded me of it, bestrune, bestrune with crystals. but So I have used the word bestrune many a time this week. ah once I learned that. Well, the featherologist bestruned the animatronic Buckbeak with ah lots of feathers. It took almost a year. I feel like the two of these, the head um yeah leotard designer and this featherologist would get along really well.
00:32:18
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Anyways. Yeah, well, I mean, it worked for the films. Buckbeak looked great. So yeah, they made three life-size animatronic versions of Buckbeak. One standing, another rearing, and a third lying down. Wait, can you say that again? So one standing, another rearing, so like on its hind legs. Okay, yes, okay. And then a third lying down. Sorry, i all I heard was rear, and I'm like, they only have one of his butt.
00:32:54
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Why?
00:32:59
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Yeah, so each feather had to be individually inserted and glued by the creatures effects team who were busy adding feathers right up until the final moment Buckbeak was needed on set for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. I love that it says needed on set like it's an actual hippogriff like actor. Yeah, it's so funny to think of about. because it's a physical entity like you're not yeah yeah no I get it it's like a a prop or whatever but yeah really but no but it's really funny to think about Buckbeak being like a real actor
00:33:33
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Yeah. You guys, I feel like I'm getting hyper, so I'm going to try to like talk normal. But um this Buckbeak-Bastroon discussion is making me think of, and I'm being serious. Are you serious? I'm being so serious right now. Saturday Night Live, I don't know if anyone here in the room right now or anyone listening. I just want to say, you're saying, I'm being so serious. Saturday Night Live? The most serious of the shows ever. Wait, just wait.
00:34:10
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Has anyone ever watched any of the behind the scenes stuff for Saturday Night Live? Because it is incredible. Like those prop, what are they? Prop masters or prop people, prop designers, whatever? Prop master sounds great. prop masters and the set designers but especially the prop masters and the people who do the prosthetics and the people who come up with the costumes because they have to go so fast because they they have like a minute and 30 seconds or whatever like tops for all of their costume changes and they have like because if you even though it's funny
00:34:52
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If you look at like the the skits that they do their stuff like the the prosthetics that they wear are so realistic for like how quickly they have to change it all out and stuff it's incredible and so i. ah I implore all of you. to look at like Saturday Night Live, their social media feeds and stuff. They'll post it, but I'm sure you can just find it wherever on the internet. But they do a lot of behind the scenes videos of like what they have to do to like create the prosthetics or create whatever props, and then how they have to like make sure that it practically works as their're they have 30 seconds to change somebody's entire face. um And it's it's really amazing. They're like so who talented at it, and I feel like they
00:35:36
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don't get that much credit because Saturday Night Live is like a ha ha funny comedy, whatever sketch thing. So people don't really think about all of the behind the scenes stuff that goes into it. But anyways, um I love watching those sorts of videos. And so I feel like people who have to do things like design um or bestrew ah a hippogriff with feathers, um you need a title like an actual featherologist to be able to put thousands and thousands of feathers. onto this animatronic hippogriff. Anyways, that's one of the few Emmy's Saturday Night Live has. I'm looking it up now to see if they've won any four like costumes. but Yeah. I mean, they should. it' acting It's pretty crazy what they can do.
Societal Shifts in Character Portrayal
00:36:23
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All right. Well, should we get into some feedback? Yeah, but first I need to talk about myself for a second. So I was right. So I took a screenshot of it. I'll share it with everyone um for proof in book one on page 13 on my iBooks version. When Haggard arrives on the motorcycle, so it's in the first chapter, the motorcycle was huge. It was nothing to the man sitting astride it. He was almost twice as tall as a normal man and at least five times as wide. He looked simply too big to be allowed. Well, Wikipedia, I got it wrong then. Yeah. So I'm right. um How many points do I get? Full point then, because we had only given you one, but so you get the the two, the full two. Yeah.
00:37:10
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I think something like that. you're the You're the one keeping score, so you tell me. But I'm honest. No, I know. but but Did we give you one or did we give you two? We i we gave one. I just was hoping that I could get like 50 points for Gryffindor for that, but I guess I didn't save everyone from Voldemort, and so I can't really get 50 points. Well, there you go. yeah
00:37:36
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you We have feedback from friend of the show. Cameron says, listening to your most recent episode, as a movie watcher only, I personally have never thought that Harry had a short temper at the start of the third movie with the aunt. But after hearing you discuss it and how she is actually there for a week instead of just a day, I think it makes more sense to write it into the show the way that it was in the book for that particular scene.
Listener Suggestions and Spinoff Ideas
00:38:11
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Cameron also asks,
00:38:13
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A question for you three, would you want to see the Dursleys while Harry is at Hogwarts? Maybe the writers create a small plot for them to show while he is away. Just real quick. I missed that question. I didn't even know that he had asked that. that ah I know. i I think about that now. He said most recent episode and obviously we're getting to this late. Yes, thank you. That's was going to be my little um note. It's interesting to see how, like, now that we talked about it, he he sees what we're talking about. But I would like when we're talking about it and we're like, I wonder how movie only feels about this. Like, I would like to finally have some moments where they do question it. And I think that might happen in the later books when things just aren't explained. And the account I am Black Harry on Instagram has been sharing some of these. I think I think that's who I just saw.
00:39:08
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I know he has been doing them. There might be others who have, but yeah. He's the one that stands in front of the TV, right? And he's like playing the scene and then he goes on like this long tangent of something of why it's not included in the movie. Yeah, like like his wife will ask, but dad, he's like pauses the video and he's like, well, let me tell you. And then explains the books. So I like that he's doing that because like it does make what we're doing like validating.
00:39:40
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like There is a lot cut from the books that the show having several more hours will will benefit. um and Then as far as his question about seeing the Dursleys, I think I would prefer that later after Harry saves Dudley and see yeah see more of an arc for Dudley like changing and and being like he saved me and kind of seeing that kind of evolution for him as opposed to just a day in the life of the Dursleys through years one through four. That could be a nice little miniseries. No, I don't think so. You don't think so?
00:40:34
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No, I don't. They're boring. That's their whole thing. Like, what would we see?
00:40:41
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What would it be? Petunia spying on the neighbors? Okay, maybe that could be fun. It's about the neighbors, not the Dursleys. It would just be called Privet Drive. And it would be focused on, okay, nobody- Real Housewives of Privet Drive? Yes. And so it's like focusing on the three of them, obviously, but it's like their dynamic with like having to be- The rest of the street. Yes. Okay, you got something there. And we can get more of like, um what's her name? Mrs. Fig? Yes. Oh, Fig, okay. Yes. he that That brings a little bit of the element of the wizarding world every time. Yes, okay. Or a little... Well, that would be... I think her reporting to Dumbledore, sorry, makes that cut you off.
00:41:30
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No, that's fine. We're so excited. I think that if it was just all Privet Drive, I feel like they could totally do like a little side series about that. But even if they did like a short miniseries just called Mrs. Feig or something, like they could do have it be more focused on her. But I think that I definitely think Privet Drive. Yeah, that's definitely in the name of the show. pro drive Okay. Um, well, I don't even remember your name is Mark Mylod and Francesca Gardner. If you're listening, don't steal my idea. Okay, just because you wrote succession doesn't mean that you can steal my idea. Come talk to me. Come talk to all three of us. We'll write Privet Drive for you. We'll get a sideshow going. Who knew? Thanks, Cameron. You just helped us create a he side story about the Dursley side. We'd have to make sure that we would give Cameron credit on the show.
00:42:20
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who Who knew that was going to come out of today? I did not see that coming. I did. I'm always down the first second plot always down for a side show.
00:42:40
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Realistically, what do you think we will get as far as spinoffs? Well, I mean, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't do marauders by this point, because that's such a... That's what I was going to say, too. I don't know if they will. worry That has so much room to, like, grow into a story, because there's so much about it that's unknown. and le If they're tuned into what the audience wants as much as we want to believe that they are, they have to have at least heard that that's something that people want to watch.
00:43:20
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I do agree that the Marauders, I would love to see that, but to play devil's advocate, a lot of people argue that there's there's not a lot to tell. like The story that's there has already been told, but could we focus on the first Wizarding World and like have the Marauders show be the first Wizarding War? I was assuming that that was part of ah their story also, because they lived through that. Wait, the first The wizarding war. Oh, would you want to? So I guess the question is, would the series cover the seven years of Hogwarts or pick up after Hogwarts? Lily and James are together and Voldemort is in power or rising to power.
00:44:09
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I assumed that the first Wizarding War was going on while they were at school and maybe not a lot of conflict was happening at the very beginning but like there was for sure stuff happening like you had Snape and his buddies talking about joining the Death Eaters while they were at school so that means Voldemort was doing stuff while like while they're growing up. So I assumed that this was happening while they're still in school and like they experience their stuff at school and they're being impacted by what Voldemort's doing during the First Wizarding War. And then they graduate from school to then join the fight on both of their sides kind of scenario. So would you want to see it start in like year seven or would you want it to start in the year one?
00:45:02
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Maybe not year one, but this is more semantics than anything. I think maybe starting in the middle of while they're in the school years and then explaining some of their childhood through flashbacks and stuff for the previous years that we're missing, but still get them in school to see how it's affecting their lives as they're getting older. Education, yeah. And their education. Maybe a teacher just disappears and they have to replace a teacher.
00:45:30
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Uh, it, you know, hearing the rumors of Voldemort and seeing how that's affecting the the Hogwarts houses and like Snape joining the the group that's going to join the death eaters and how that's affecting Lily and Snape's relationship. That's all part of the Marauder story and skipping that. would be not doing anything justice because having it just be focused on them after school and in that small period of time of where they're fighting the war doesn't feel- Well, it's still, okay, so they're 17, 18 when they graduate Hogwarts, right? And aren't they 21 when they die? So that's still a few years worth of content. True, but it's too small, it's too short.
00:46:19
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yeah for me anyways. This has to be a seven year thing for them too. Give me give me all of the story there. I don't know. I think of Marauders could be one or I'm sorry. I think it could be two or three seasons tops. And it could be either a year or two of the Hogwarts and then the aftermath and then of course the final season would be why Voldemort is after Lily and James. We'll agree to disagree on this one. I'm right in the middle. I think you're both right. No, stop. If you could do your dream marauders show, what would it look like? I always want to include as much information as possible. So like I would want to see a childhood like background lead up to each of the four. Would you want a season per year of Hogwarts?
00:47:20
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Um, let's put it this way. I would watch the heck out of it if they did have one. what Whatever they would put out about it, as long as it was made well and like stuck with the wizarding world, like didn't go off the rails the way that Fantastic Beasts did. Like that sort, you know, like as long as they weren't trying too hard to turn it into something that doesn't make sense, I would absolutely watch it. I don't think that it would need seven seasons. I feel like if they did a couple I mean they did three seasons or something like that because I feel like shows that shows that stick to like seasons two through four maybe two through five are usually the best for shows that go on for a long time and then I feel like after that they kind of lose their steam a little bit and then the first season is always like an introductory season so I feel like if they did a couple seasons
00:48:20
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and maybe the first one focused on like them when they were growing up so you get like a history of what their why they are who they are you know based on their family dynamics and stuff and like each episode for in that first season or like they took a full episode. In the introductory season to like. really focus on one character at a time. Like, can you imagine if they did, like, a full, like, 40-minute episode where they went into, like, a deep dive on Peter Pettigrew as he's growing up? Like, that would be so interesting, I think, to see that. And so if they did that and really went on a deep dive of the characters and then had, like, their first couple years at Hogwarts, and then maybe the second season is, like, as they become... the yeah and they like be create the marauders map and yeah like like go through all the shenanigans and stuff and then they could do a final season that's like things start to go off the rails and then they like get out of school or you know it could maybe be like as they start the season could start out where they're finishing up school
00:49:29
Speaker
and then they're adults, and then we see that. I think that would be fantastic to see that. If they did more, I would happily watch more of it, but I feel like that would be solid if they... I could get down with like the first season being the first few years and Game of Thrones spin-off House of Dragon did that really well because they had a younger cast in the first few episodes and then they had a time skip and had an older cast play the same characters. And so that worked really well and we could so we could do that. I could I could I'd be okay with that. I just don't think there's enough
00:50:06
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story to tell each year, to have a whole season like eight episodes or so of year one, because nothing is really it's not like Voldemort's trying to kill Harry in the year one, you know, they they That's not until their later years. But I can definitely get down with the first season being the first few years with deep dives into the characters and who they are, the Black family, how did Peter Predegue become so nervous Nelly? um And then Harry and and Sirius is bonding, and then Lupin and all his werewolfiness. I like the idea of doing a deep dive, a whole episode deep dive on these characters.
00:50:46
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um And then second season, diving into the Marauder's Map and the Animagus, and then third season, Order of the Phoenix stuff, and then possibly a fourth season being the the year they die kind of thing. So this is this is what I'm feeling like could be a possible compromise. I had the, as Meeks was talking about that, I had the idea of what Once Upon a Time was all about. And so Once Upon a Time, if for those of you who have never watched it, which, you know, you should go watch it. Definitely.
00:51:23
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once upon a time takes the story like the main story of what's going on this whole plot that's happening in the town and then it would also break into flashbacks kind of scenario where it would go back and then explore something that's happening to these characters and so when the flashbacks are telling its a little side stories per se it then kind of opens the eye like opens the eyes to what's going on with the current characters in the current plot line. So I would be okay with something similar happening to that with the Marauders all grown up out of school fighting the Wizarding War, but then going back and doing side plot
00:52:07
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flashbacks of when they were kids at school and showing what events happening are happening there to affect the events that are happening in the current plot line. How about a setup like that where we can maybe do Cause you're right, 18 to 21, maybe it could have a couple of years of them just fighting this war. And then it gives us, you know, it then doesn't dictate when we can go into the Hogwarts timeline of being able to pick out memories that influence the events that are happening on what they're doing now. And then like gives us the opportunity to explore their relationships as children and how that's affecting them as adults, uh, you know, kind of scenario.
00:52:50
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I'd be okay with something a little bit like that. And I think it would be able to play well. I could see that working. um Again, like having like showing how adult Peter is getting closer and closer to portraying Lillian James and flashing back to his childhood and like how did he get to this point? Mm hmm. And then also, like, I think there's a lot of content in those years, even when they're in school, because again, like you said, Snape becoming obsessed with the dark arts, Lucius, and then, you know, crab daddy and girl daddy. Serious versus Bellatrix. Like, that would be an interesting like character dynamic as they're fighting. Like, we see Bellatrix and Sirius like so angry at each other, but then like we go deeper into their Hogwarts past and see why.
00:53:40
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because they went to the school around the same time. Yeah. And then like all the death eaters becoming death eaters and like what what is Voldemort doing on his side of things while the Order of the Phoenix is fighting him on their side of things? Yeah. Yeah, that would be cool. And then even flashing back, I know that it's called the Marauders, but even flashing back to Voldemort's past and getting more of his. I know there's they they really flesh it out in the books, but But they can do more, I mean, I think they do like a and a very appropriate amount in the books of like still keeping it but like um it's like the right the correct length for what it should be for those stories as they start adding Voldemort's history and like I think that it was like she
00:54:28
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added in the perfect amount of backstory so that you can empathize with him and like understand what happened and give a lot of depth to his character without um lengthening the story so much that it feels like the book is too long or anything. I mean the books are long but they feel like the correct amount. But I still think that she could go deeper with it because we you get enough so that you're that it makes sense for the story by um and it makes sense for his character development, but you still want to know more about Voldemort. And so I think that they could totally do one about him and I mean a show called The Death Eaters and it's about either that or and or
00:55:10
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the Black family and just like Bellatrix and what happened with her and the Narcissa and her and Lucius. like I think they they could do so much just with that family tree. I think we have some more feedback.
Listener Feedback and Cultural Insights
00:55:24
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I'm sorry I asked a question that made us go on a huge tangent. That's why this is a bonus episode is so that we can talk about all this stuff where normally we have to keep our agenda tighter when we do just an analysis episode. All right, Karen, our British correspondent updates. ah These are just updates over a couple episodes. um And so she so she said, shrunken heads are not a British thing. It makes me think more of voodoo vibes. um the
00:55:57
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ah Oh, and then she said also within the same comment, the voice British comedy royalty, Sir Lenny Henry. I'm forgetting on what that was about. probably the voice of the shrunken head. Oh, oh, that would make sense. um I am very glad to know that that's just not part of British culture to have shrunken heads everywhere. Yes, it makes our hatred of them justified. Yes.
00:56:26
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um
00:56:29
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She also said, Carriage and garage do rhyme from when we were like carriage and garage. Wait a second. They say garage. Do they say garage? Carriage, carriage, garage.
00:56:47
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i don't I'm not good at a ah British accent, but like is it just the accent that makes it garage? carriage gar Garage, garage, I need her to have come on and say garage for us. Yeah. Well, they say garage. I know that. Garage. But I don't know why they say, I don't know why they say it like that. Because they're just more posh than we are. They're way more posh. But garage sounds way more posh than garage. garage garage garage garage garage garage garage you'd think that we would say garage and they would say garage
00:57:29
Speaker
Anyways. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You putting it that way. Yeah. I hear you you. Okay. Um, that's what we have so far for our feedback for the past couple of weeks. Um, if you want your feedback read right in or call us or whatever, we're on all the socials and stuff. Um, does anybody have anything else? Peebsie pals. We did a lot. We did cover a lot. so it's Great bonus content. what's good doing All right. Well, thank you for causing havoc with us today. Next time we will return to our page to screen analysis. James, where can people find you? We are going to find me a James M. Beltran on Instagram or tech talk.
00:58:23
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00:59:20
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