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A Parent in Sirius, Tropical Birds and Dumbledore at the Beach
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Today we are analyzing Chapter 2: The Scar! There is no portion of the film for this chapter so listen in as we discuss the chapter as an adaption to the screen and what we would like to see it do.
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Introduction & Overview
00:00:19
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Welcome to Peeves Gap Fest, where sometimes we host a chapter by chapter page to screen analysis of the Harry Potter series. And sometimes we just have a common room chat. I'm Megan. I'm Meeks. I'm James. you're And I'm Sarah Day. What an intro.
00:00:41
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Uh, today we are analyzing chapter two of the Goblet of Fire, The Scar. And no portion of the movie because it does not exist. Before we start gabbing, we wanted to give a spoiler warning. We will be using our vast knowledge of the wizarding world to compare the page to the screen and compare the page to itself. And we may gab about moments that happen later in the books or the films. You've been warned, Ickles Firsties, before we begin a message from the Daily Prophet.
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Missing Scenes in Goblet of Fire
00:06:02
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So, um, this doesn't exist in the film. Uh, they took a few little pieces of it, um, and kind of sporadically put it in into the beginning of the film, but there's no actual scene of, um, what this chapter shows. So what are our initial thoughts? Do you think, well, I guess my question is, do you think that any of it's necessary?
00:06:30
Speaker
Cause I feel like it's just a bunch of, um, not not necessarily a recap, but kind of just reminding who the characters are. It is kind of sort of a recap, uh, because it's just Harry going through mentally. Like all the people in his life touches on the Dursleys, it touches on Hermione, it touches on Ron, it touches on Dumbledore even.
00:06:53
Speaker
ah Dumbledore at the Beach is probably one of my new favorite things I want to see on on screen. I just want Harry to like imagine Dumbledore at the beach and then just like have that physically up appear on screen. I think it this that reminds me of one of those. Oh, that's what I was just about to say. I know because you always say it. and I was like, I'm going to say it. I want to take it from you.
00:07:17
Speaker
Yeah, this chapter is like ripe with Brooklyn Nine-Nine flashbacks. So obviously, I want it to be on the screen. It really is. Yeah, I mean, I think that it's there is like, I can see why they would have cut it out of the film and put this in, you know, just like elements of it and, you know, blended them into other scenes. So I, I do get that from a filmmaking perspective, if they have to cut stuff, this one makes sense. However,
00:07:47
Speaker
you know, with the show where it's long form and they're able to expand a lot more, I think that they absolutely get in because it really paints the picture of Privet Drive and the Dursleys, you know, it just continues to reinforce that. Whereas in the movies, we we get a sense of that, especially in the first film.
00:08:10
Speaker
But not really, not nearly as much as what the books show as far as like how perfectly proper Petunia is and how like, you know, you know, just how perfect and prim everything is in Privet Drive and within the Dursley household. What they do is make them clearly the villains of Harry's muggle life, you know, like they they make it obvious as filmmakers that we're so not supposed to like the Dursleys and they give us a sense of how um like the the properness and stuff that makes them stuffy but
00:08:50
Speaker
You know, we don't, we, I don't think that we get the full picture from any of the films about what the, what Privet Drive and what the Dursley household is like. And so this, having this scene, and you know, it only needs to be like two minutes. It's not like it needs to be anything that's really long.
00:09:07
Speaker
But keeping it in really reinforces the character and world building that we are desperately missing with the films that were made. And so hopefully with the TV show, they'll keep all of these, you know, little scenes in there because I think it just adds to the whole story.
00:09:24
Speaker
Definitely. I
Potential TV Adaptations: Balancing Elements
00:09:25
Speaker
think out of the next few chapters, because I believe two, three and four, maybe five, I don't remember. But I know the next few chapters are also cut from the films. And out of those chapters that are cut, I think this is one that definitely doesn't need to be. It's not as important as the the following chapters, especially with like the Weasley's coming into the fireplace and all that. A lot of this is just Harry's thoughts and internal monologue. So how do you guys see I mean, especially you makes who just said like you you want to see this on screen. How do you see this transferring to a screen? Yeah, I mean, I think that there's it wouldn't be a lot of just like the camera on Harry's face thinking, right? I think that they would.
00:10:08
Speaker
um be able to show him I don't know like kind of puttering around the room maybe looking at he can just look at things cards you know old cards and stuff from people or letters from running them like you you know just stuff that is that are like kind of tangible reminders but then it would be like a flashback or not flashback necessarily looking and ah back in time but like flashing over to whatever something else and like Harry imagining how Ron would react about his scar and how harry Hermione would react about the scar like I think that that's funny um to think about how he would process it and they would be able to show that by cutting over to them and their response obviously Dumbledore with the on the beach you know so I think it would be a lot of
00:10:57
Speaker
flashing over to what other what how other people will be responding to the situation.
00:11:05
Speaker
I think it i just really just depends on the tone. Like what kind of tone do they want to be delivering from the get go? How do they want to like establish it? Because I think if they wanted to go more of a serious route, like they could totally make that work. He wakes up from Uh, from the dream, maybe it, maybe the first episode is, is the dream happening? And then it's at the end of the episode that this chapter happens before the next episode starts with the Dursleys. I don't know necessarily how they would want to do that, but like either way, like you're, you're tying it in with the dream. He wakes up, he's rubbing, you know, rubbing his scar, goes up to the wardrobe, opens up the mirror. You can do some cool camera work with that.
00:11:57
Speaker
And then you can, you know, it you just leave it up to the actor to be kind of showing that frustration, that concern that he's had from the dream. He maybe looks at his letters and he's trying to like figure out who he needs to like talk to. um Not necessarily doing any like flashbacks or weird like little shifting to shifting to somebody else, but just kind of just letting him, the actor do all that work of showing that concern, showing that hesitation of, who do I tell about this? This is concerning to me. And then, you know, he goes back to bed after he's opened up the window and he's just like, I know, like he just pops up. He doesn't even have to say like serious or anything. He just like pops up, runs over the thing and we can see him write, dear serious, writes, you know, takes a second to breathe, writes down what he wants to say, puts out the letter, sends it off.
00:12:52
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maybe the end of the episode, first episode, goes into the Dursleys or maybe that's just the transition we need for him to go back to bed, wakes up, starts the whole Dursley thing kind of scenario. um If they want to maybe go more of a you know, more of a TV show around where it's kind of like a little bit more comedic slash serious. They can kind of do, uh, do the little thing, like little popups of like Hermione responding to Harry's letter or like Ron, how he's a magic, like going into his imagination and kind of like having the imagination telling us what's going on in his head. Um, but that's if they want more of a, like,
00:13:38
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comedic, upper tone type scenario of of the situation. It really just depends on where they want to go. And I definitely do think it's going to be more of a serious tone um as opposed to like our Brooklyn Nine-Nine um theories. so But i um I agree that I think it could be it can um doing like the cut scenes and the flashes too, or even having um
00:14:07
Speaker
the actors that play Ron and Hermione in the scene with him in in the bedroom, you know, just like it's we can tell it's his imagination talking to them and then um it cuts to the next one. And then I do also want to see Dumbledore on the beach. So we'll just have to flash over to that one. But um yeah, I guess it'll be interesting to see if they include this in some way or not and how they do it.
00:14:34
Speaker
I do definitely think that they should um include Harry writing to Sirius because that's a good way to end um this little chapter, you know, to kind of like wrap everything up and, you know, go through the motions or the the phases of like how he's kind of reviewing, you know, in his head all of these people in his life and then it kind of wraps up with you know, something that is potentially really good for him, which is getting a godfather and getting to have some type of opportunity to have that connection with somebody um and how just writing to him makes him feel a lot better, especially knowing what we know about the future of the stories. So I definitely want them to include that in it.
00:15:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think expanding upon the relationship that we've just established in the last season is a great little dynamic to explore. Because that's one of my qualms about the Goblet of Fire film was not exploring Sirius Black's relationship with Harry throughout the film like they could have. I believe it when he appears in the fireplace, is that Goblet of Fire or is that Order of the Phoenix?
00:15:50
Speaker
goblet of fire Okay, so like they do have one scene with him in it, and he's kind of doing that thing, but like that's just one little scene compared to the multitudes of times that he's communicating with Sirius and developing this relationship because it's Harry's all ultimately first and probably last experience with having an adult that's in a parent role for him.
00:16:18
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um kind of ah trying to be there for him and guide him in in in the sense that that that he can. And so I think- Yeah, that's actually, um can I pause you really quick? That's really, pause you. Can I interrupt you for a second? That is really interesting because, you know, Lupin, spoiler alert, dies um in the seventh book. And so he would have been the other one who would really have been a parental figure. Dumbledore dies, um spoiler alert.
00:16:48
Speaker
and so yeah i mean anybody that the few people that really were parental figures for him, even if they, if Sirius passed first, they still don't last much longer. And then Harry's and done with school, you know, he then he's an adult after the Battle of Hogwarts. And so he's not, that doesn't mean that we even when we're adults don't need some type of parental figure, like that they that that wouldn't be helpful for us. But like he's he is an adult. So everything really changes for him after that. Okay.
00:17:23
Speaker
on interrupting you now. but Well, I mean, to expand on what you just said, like, he, I guess once he's graduated from school, he does have the Weasleys and Mrs. Weasley does a good job jumping in, in the last book. god about me training Yeah, she's, she is the she she does a good job of trying to like make him feel like a normal kid and celebrating his 17th birthday, which is the adult birthday for him and giving him that watch and stuff. But like,
00:17:54
Speaker
So, but it's more, she and Mr. Weasley are more of like the bet, my best friend's parents or my in-laws when it goes into the future, like they, they're a different type of relationship that he's developing with them rather than developing that connection that he has with Sirius and the connection ultimately he does make with Lupin. Uh, cause I do, I do think Lupin and he had a little bit of a.
00:18:23
Speaker
relationship. Lupin just had it harder because he lost Sirius and he's an angsty teenager in his 16th and 17th year and Lupin gets to deal with that before he dies. But um i it's a different experience and you can already tell when you're reading the chapter in chapter two that it's a different experience because he's like he He explicitly says in his mind, i what I need is a parent-like person. And then he remembers he's got serious and is like, oh, yeah, like du I didn't think about that in the first place because I only knew about him like two months ago. so Well, and that's just like so sad. um but And obviously he's not alone. There's unfortunately so many people that
00:19:10
Speaker
have um this type of feeling where like he has to think about like, hmm, I need somebody that feels like a parent to me and I don't know what that feels like. And he has to like try and think about somebody in his life who could be some type of parental figure. And that's so sad. Yeah.
00:19:32
Speaker
Um, right. Well, I guess any other, any other thoughts about like, anything else that anybody wants to bring up? I mean, the Brooklyn Nine-Nine flashback sort of montage-y stuff was my main, my main talking point. I'm sorry. I stole it from you. It's okay. It's okay. We still talk about it.
00:19:52
Speaker
I mean, Dumbledore a dumbledore in a ah swimsuit on the beach would just be hilarious. well that's okay i had to contribute Let's expand on that a little bit because I think we all are in agreement that with being HBO, it's going to be more of a more mature, darker tone than a Brooklyn Nine-Nine tone. ah So how can we make Dumbledore on the Beach work when it's a more gritty show?
00:20:17
Speaker
I mean, I think that there's plenty of shows that are, you know, intense and dramatic and that's the main theme, but they're able to add in humor, I think. um I think even the Harry Potter films, the later ones, they didn't um necessarily nail it every time. I feel like whoever they had to add in the funny parts
00:20:41
Speaker
didn't quite know how to do it um but I think that there are plenty of shows that are really intense and dramatic but they're able to add in um kind of dark humor stuff and this isn't necessarily going to be dark humor because and I don't think it should because the books are so light-hearted even though it's really heavy material and the books are And, the you know, if it's a max HBO, are they still just max? OK, whatever they are. it I don't know what it is. OK, I'm going to say HBO. So even even though it's an HBO show,
00:21:16
Speaker
um
00:21:19
Speaker
the films felt so much darker than the books. And so I'm hoping that HBO recognizes that there's that's a huge difference that the films made. and So if they're going to like turn it even darker, it's like, oh, my God, come on, guys, like you're missing.
00:21:35
Speaker
the core feeling of the books, which is that lightheartedness, even though it's really heavy material. So I hope that HBO recognizes that and chooses to make it lighthearted in the way that the the books do, but um without it being silly, right? Like we don't want the TV show to feel like ah a kid's show necessarily. We want it to be more adult.
00:22:00
Speaker
um But I think regardless, even if they do go dramatic and intense and moody and stuff, they'll be able to add in um add in humor with Dumbledore being on the beach. And I feel like I trust that they'd be able to make it work. Yeah, me too.
00:22:20
Speaker
Am I really hoping for it? Yes. Do I think that they're probably going to cut it? Most likely. yeah like it's it's It's just one of those stages in life where you're kind of just like, you know, what's happening. It's fun to kind of speculate and you know, all the speculation aside, I know
Global Wizarding World & Adaptation Concerns
00:22:40
Speaker
that in the end, like what they're going to do is probably going to be really good or you know, some things I might go, oh, I didn't think about doing that or though that's like a really cool addition or other things I might go. I would have done that differently. But that that's how every show goes. And so I, you know, this is just the fun part of speculation. And I was in my ideal Harry Potter Goblet of Fire TV show. ah Dumbledore is going to be on the beach. So it's just it comes to whatever.
00:23:15
Speaker
I know we're all going to be watching the season four premiere with Bated Breath to see Dumbledore on the beach.
00:23:24
Speaker
We will now for sure. People who hadn't thought about it as much before will definitely be waiting for this. um and We started a movement, guys. There we go. ha I do um want to see when Harry receives letters from Sirius, then they were delivered by brightly brightly-colored tropical birds. um yeah And then Hedwig being upset about them. like that All of those details, I think, are really fun. Again, the world building and like really yes making it more than just a story with these characters you know that has to do with magic. It's like it's an entire...
00:24:03
Speaker
You know, it's an entire world. so Well, because ah i didn't I didn't even consider that owls are not a ah like a ah global creature. So other countries probably use and other types of birds to deliver their mail. And so I'm kind of just like, oh, yeah, that totally makes sense. Why didn't I think of that? It's just like, it's these little things that kind of build more on the world that if you introduce them they're kind of just like oh yeah that's that's obvious it makes sense why didn't you know that that's cool that it came out that way
00:24:45
Speaker
It's kind of our first look into the broader wizarding world um because we haven't really gotten a lot. And this book kind of introduces that. So that's our first look in this book at the larger world um with these with these different birds, because then we start to learn about the other schools. And, um you know, Harry just hadn't even thought about it before. True.
00:25:09
Speaker
Yeah, that's a really good point. We didn didn't even think about it before. Well, and that's a really good point that that is the first time that we really see that because um because, yeah, this book, especially with the Quidditch World Cup and then with the visiting students staying at Hogwarts. Yeah, this book really does introduce things. And so that is a good point that this is like one little first little example into it. um And I think that she does an OK job um of you know introducing what, like you know for to us, foreign magic or foreign wizards and witches, what that would look like. But you know it's just, again, such a bummer that the Fantastic Beasts series did what it did because that is a perfect example of something where we could see such a different like side of the magical world and the different cultures and stuff. And then it just all completely fell apart. So hopefully,
00:26:05
Speaker
I mean, obviously. and with those I'm going to interrupt this time. um Those movies, every movie was supposed to be set in a different country, which would have been amazing to see. Oh, I didn't know that. That. Well, it makes sense because the first one was in America. The second one was in Paris. And then the third one was the third one.
00:26:29
Speaker
Tomorrow's.
00:26:32
Speaker
I have to go back and watch it again. I do think this is a, since the conversation was kind of headed this way, I do think this is a perfect moment to maybe talk about that one thing I saw in the news about one of the oh showrunners not having read the entire series. Yeah, that's concerning. That was a little concerning for me. I'm like, wait, what?
00:26:55
Speaker
He's just one writer out of a group of writers. I don't think we need to worry. and He's not the showrunner. I don't think he's just a writer. um So he's just a writer. I believe so.
00:27:11
Speaker
Because the show showrunners were different people, right?
00:27:16
Speaker
They're like the head writers, I think, and like producers. And then um I have to look into it more, but I'm pretty sure he's not like it the head writer.
00:27:28
Speaker
i let I know a little about the writing process, so I don't know. Well, I guess we'll just have to see. But I did. I noticed like ah like a surge of people going, ah, freaking out a little bit on Harry Potter platforms.
00:27:44
Speaker
Um, I think that the third movie is set in Berlin, Germany. Ah, you're right. It is. Cause I, they, they have the whole thing with like the minister of magic from Germany as well. Well, and then there's also, um,
00:28:04
Speaker
the Brazilian candidate, they, they sent Sia Santos. Um, but I think it's, um,
00:28:14
Speaker
they They, I don't know, I'm reading the Wikipedia and it's too much and it's been too long since I have seen this film to really dive into the Wikipedia page.
00:28:27
Speaker
yeah Anyway, sorry to go off on that tangent. Just wanted to answer it on the podcast. We we love tangents.
00:28:36
Speaker
um a um Another thing that I really like, which you know might not really be translatable, to the screen. But um I do really like how JK Rowling writes internal monologues. um And just like the whole, like the fact that this is a whole chapter, you know, just of but almost nothing happens. It's just Harry's thoughts. But it's still a good chapter to read and everything. Like I think that she does a really good job with that. And so
00:29:09
Speaker
It would be nice to be able to see something like this on the screen or more of it, because this is not the only time, of course, that this but she writes about internal monologues. So it just like feels feels good to read it. um you know feel It obviously builds connection between the readers and Harry. So hopefully hopefully they'll be able to make it happen in the show.
00:29:32
Speaker
Yeah, I'm looking now it's only 10 pages long. So it's a quick little chapter, perfect little internal monologue. Yeah. Exposition. All right, does anybody have any other um any other thoughts on this chapter?
00:29:53
Speaker
Okay. Well, we can't do a real pleasure peeves and salute because there's no comparison, but is, um, does anybody have something that would be, uh, that they're most excited from this chapter to see on the screen? It sounds like it's Dumbledore on the beach for all of us.
00:30:19
Speaker
Okay, what about something we don't need to see?
00:30:28
Speaker
I mean, honestly, I don't think I'll be too too bummed if this isn't included. I would like to see him go through wondering who to talk to about this. But um and just having that moment of clarity, like, oh, obviously I have serious now um because, you know, he met him last book. So just a reminder that he does have that parental figure in his life. But other than that, I i don't need anything from this chapter. um I think the next couple of chapters are more intriguing and and worthy of screen time.
00:30:59
Speaker
I agree in the sense of like this is not come completely never like necessary. I'm not gonna be devastated if they don't have a little scene where Dudley's trying to hoard donuts.
00:31:14
Speaker
and gets caught for it. I'm not gonna be devastated if, you know, we don't get a Hermione going like, oh, you should tell Dumbledore and I'm gonna go look at this like little, ah you know, look it up in this book, because like, that's how Harry imagines Hermione is gonna handle the problem. Like, overall, like, it would be really funny to see some of that stuff. But at the same time,
00:31:41
Speaker
It wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't. I do think having Sirius be a parent ah to Harry and Harry recognizing that he's now a parent figure in his life is probably important and needs to be added in some way, shape, or form.
00:32:00
Speaker
ah If they don't necessarily do it the way that this chapter heeds it out, then at least add it in some way some somewhere else. um But I do think that that's an important concept that's introduced in this chapter that needs to be established throughout the series.
00:32:17
Speaker
I think even just having him wake up from the dream, rifle through the different letters, like you see a letter from Ron, you see a letter from Hermione, um maybe like a newspaper of Dumbledore's picture, and then he pulls the letter from Sirius and then writes his letter to Sirius. Like if that's all we get, that's that's fine with me.
00:32:41
Speaker
Yeah. um and i would also like to to stress that I, as much as I um want to see more stuff in general, you know, more of the Jerseleys, I don't want the emphasis to be on Dudley in particular being like, um always just like his weight is always being discussed and how much he eats is always being discussed. I don't think that that's necessary for him to be in unlikable character because of the way that he treats Harry and the way that the Dursleys in general treat Harry. So I think um I just want to put it on the record that as much as I want to see more of like the Dursley life and the Privet Drive and stuff, I definitely don't want the emphasis to be on that sort of like, you know, and like Dudley and Vernon being like gross and big or and that's not needed. They treat Harry horribly. That's what they
00:33:40
Speaker
what should be focused on. Yeah, I agree. All right. Was there anything that was a salute in this chapter as far as something that was like heartwarming or something that we really liked?
00:33:54
Speaker
I really liked him of writing writing to Sirius. I know that we've already talked about this, but having that realization that um that he has a parent now, I just think is so, so heartwarming um and also heartbreaking when you know what's going to happen in the future. um And so I really, really, really, really want them to include as much Sirius stuff as possible, Sirius Black stuff as possible in this.
00:34:20
Speaker
Yeah, i want I don't want them to cut as much as they did of Sirius or Dobby as the movies did because um you know we know those deaths are coming. so they're not like they They need to focus on those relationships for us to have that emotional reaction to it in the show. um And we we just we need all those scenes that were cut from the films in order to get that emotional connection. And and you know knowing it's coming, we we need to have a reason to be like shocked and like ah ah devastated. Yeah, yeah exactly. When those deaths do happen.
00:34:58
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And that goes for all of the characters that died, not just those two that I mentioned. um You know, you're just totally important. Those are my two favorite characters, so that's why I reference them. But all of the characters that die, you know, there's somebody's favorite character, so they really need to focus on these character building um stories and really get us connected to these characters in the show. Definitely. I.
00:35:27
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I think I would like to salute... I had it announced coming. Sorry. I got distracted. It's obviously not much of a salute. Sorry. No, like, ah, dang it. What was it?
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00:35:47
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give my system give give Give me a second to, like, system reboot my brain.
00:35:56
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Oh, boy. Maybe if I just start talking, it will come back to my head. um I really did like the, um
00:36:10
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whatchamacallit, how JK Rowling makes kind of makes it clear what's going on in Harry's Head through the through the monologues. I really did like that part and just like the writing of it.
00:36:26
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um
00:36:29
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kind of jumping back and forth between, you know, the people that he knows and like how they're reacting and just, just being able to creatively see all of that. Whereas in the movie, I just watched the the clip. It's, he wakes up from the dream. He's like thrashing about in Hermione, like wakes him up and then she goes, wake up, Ronald. And like, Ron's like, what are you doing in my bedroom? Um,
00:36:58
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it kind of like that whole thing is overshadowing the fact that Harry just had this enormous nightmare and some concerns and then like it does focus on him for a little bit kind of going what just happened and like what's going on and Ron just pat like comedically Ron just goes back to sleep because he's just like I don't want to be awake right now it's too early. yeah um But it it gives it it gives Harry and Daniel Radcliffe like
00:37:29
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20, no, not even 20, 15 seconds, 10 seconds most to kind of just go, that was concerning. And then it just moves on to the next beat and kind of doesn't do that. Whereas this chapter does a really good job of fleshing that out. And I think that that's really important. So yeah.
00:37:48
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that concern yeah that Harry has. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, i obviously when we get chapters down the line, when we get to the point where we get to wherever the film is, it's like where it starts after the after the dream.
00:38:02
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um well I'm sure be revisiting this, but i I think, you know, as a film, it makes sense what they did with like, it's cool, you know, going from the dream and then having it transition into the World Cup. And then they like they obviously want it to be really high energy. So for for that purpose, what they did make sense as a film, but yeah, it does it like invalidates all of the feelings that I hear very justified feelings that Harry has having having that dream knowing really what it and even though he's kind of he doesn't fully know what it means he like knows that there's something wrong and knows that he needs to get help for to figure it out and um yeah and it just goes right into like
00:38:48
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the quirky, high energy World Cup stuff, which makes it is fine on its own. Like it I like the energy that they created for the World Cup scenes. But those should have been, you know, that should be one one part of that whole like the whole beginning of the book. And it just instead like that overshadows it. And then it ends up feeling like everything's just really choppy and rushed when you look at it overall, I think.
00:39:16
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Yeah, the the movie, the fourth book movie is is very
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00:39:20
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choppy and there's a lot. It feels very rushed in the beginning. We don't even get the Quidditch World Cup. And so but well, we're very excited to see have more hours yeah um dedicated to this book. I can't wait to see what a deleted scenes they have in store for me. um Oh, and this one has a few.
00:39:42
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yeah I do know that because I have seen that this extended version in the hospital. All right. Well, does anybody have any other thoughts on this chapter? All right. Okay. Then we will end it here and then we will pick back up again with chapter three, which is also not in the film. Thank you for causing havoc with us today. Next time we will have a common room chat coming up. um And yeah, we'll see what we'll talk about then. James, where can people find you? They can go ahead and find me at James M Beltran on Instagram or TikTok.
00:40:25
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