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Remembering Harry Potter Actors and Their Legacies
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At the time of recording this Common room chat, we lost Dame Maggie Smith today. We wanted to take a look back at her career as well as other HP actors that have passed and honor their legacies.
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Honoring Dame Maggie Smith and Harry Potter Legends
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Welcome to Peeves Gabfest, where sometimes we host a chapter-by-chapter page-to-screen analysis of the Harry Potter series, and sometimes we just have a common room chat. I'm James. I'm Sarah Day. And I'm Meeks. And at the time of this recording of the common room chat, we lost Dame Maggie Smith today. RIP.
00:00:29
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So we wanted to take a look back at back her career as well as other Harry Potter actors who have passed and honor their legacies. So join us as we do so and talk about the many things that they've brought to our lives and the lives of many others.
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Celebrating Dame Maggie Smith's Legacy
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Welcome back listeners. All right. Well, according to the wonderful man, myth, the legend Dumbledore,
00:05:56
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to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure. ah So, you know, to whatever you believe and however you think was going to happen after we die, ah we I always tend to at least honor the memory of those that have passed and that is just a common theme throughout I think most beliefs and I think it will not change the fact that we are gonna sit here and honor the memory of many people who brought these characters to life. So we start with the person who brought this to our table, Dame Maggie Smith, who had just passed away at the age of 89.
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She won two Oscars, five BAFTAs, four Emmys, and a Tony, was honored by Queen Elizabeth in the 1990s by being made a Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire. And a body of work but the body of work includes countless stage performances, films, and shows, including the most recent Downton Abbey and, of course, Minerva McGonagall. And I probably will say one of the most probably heavy filmographies that you'll probably ever see. She worked until she died, basically. She even ah has one coming out. It's in production according to her IMDB page. um It seems like there's still one that's in production. So um so she kept on going.
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And it was amazing today to see how many people posted about her with very, very kind words.
00:07:48
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I really liked seeing her in, well, everything that I've seen her in. She's been fantastic. But I really liked seeing her in um Downton Abbey because I was so used to her being McGonagall. And so seeing anybody act in a role that is different from like one that you know them really well. And that's like pretty much the only thing that you associate her with or them with and then seeing them in something else can always be really jarring. But She was so good in Downton Abbey and she was perfect for her role that she had. So that was really fun. Cause I watched Downton Abbey a couple of years ago for the first time and absolutely fell in love with that show. And she's of course, one of the many reasons why. I agree. She is a very great part of that show and her, um, like one liners in that show are perfect and she nails them. She does. Yeah. Really good delivery.
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Well, even as McGonagall, she had really great delivery and one-liners. I think my all-time favorite is um it's you know the emotional scene of the final battle of Hogwarts and she um uses the spell to wake the statue soldiers.
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yes thenly always playing themselves no yeah
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Yeah, i I agree. That was, so that was, I thought that that was a really cute line and perfect for, you know, you could totally see her saying that it fit really well with what she was doing. And I just, I think she, she was just really smart at what she did. And, you know, she was, she wasn't just acting and like saying the line. She really was right reading that character for people. Yeah.
00:09:40
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No, she did a she did a really good job. And I think it's interesting because we got but she's had a career for a very, very, very, very long time. Yes. um But we we kind of got her in the the older stages and she she got to she she she knew her role well and she knew her abilities and she she played the roles of some of those older characters like Downton Abbey and Professor McGonagall like to a tee but you go back and watch some of the stuff from the older times when she was younger like yeah really different person was a completely different um
00:10:25
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approach to how she she handled her characters. and i you know For a person who likes to go back and and watch older movies, it definitely um is interesting to see how she acts in those older movies versus how she acts now. like You can tell the experience she has now.
00:10:45
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um, versus, uh, versus when she was gaining that experience for the many roles that she played. And even back then she was, she was still good at what she does. I mean, I don't think you can do as many movies as she did and not be bad. Right. think yeah I think I said that right. I hope I said that right. Um, it's, it'll be interesting to see kind of like the younger icons.
00:11:15
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that are our age, I guess, basically that we've grown up with, um you know, when we're older and we're in our 70s and 80s and how those actors change, like you just said, seeing her from the 60s and seeing her now in 2020s and how she's changed so much as an actor. It'll be fun to kind of see the actors and actresses that we are watching right now that are our age grow. Totally.
00:11:43
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Yeah, it's pretty weird to think about that actually. And, um, you know, obviously everybody ages and everybody passes. And so it's, it is really weird to think about these people that we've only known them as being much older than us. So it makes sense, you know, that they're going to feel older and they'll pass when we're still feeling young, but it is really interesting to think about how that's, you know, not always going to be the case. Correct.
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Anything else before we move on to the next one?
Alan Rickman's Remarkable Career
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Awesome. So the next person that we get to honor in memory of is the one, the only, Alan Rickman, who made his film debut as the German criminal mastermind Hans Gruber in Die Hard in 1988.
00:12:36
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and starred in many more films such as Sense and Sensibility, Galaxy Quest, Love Actually, and of course, Professor Snape. Alan Rickman is probably one of the most watched actors I have watched in many other stuff.
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I will say out of the list of actors that we're going to talk about tonight, I've definitely seen most of it. Like I've seen way more of his work than I have the others. I don't think I've seen a lot of Maggie Smith's other than Downton Abbey. I think she was in the sister acts and I've seen that and a few of her older, like a few, a handful. But Alan Rickman, I've seen so many. I've seen Sense and Sensibility, Galaxy Quest, Love Actually.
00:13:23
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Harry Potter, Die Hard. um he was the prince of thieves as she yeah um He was the voice of the robot in the, um you um um what's that called? Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Yes, that's the one. Thank you.
00:13:40
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um But I do want to make note um before he made his film debut, he was still very well accomplished and he was a member of the Royal Shakespeare Company.
00:13:54
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Yep. Um, I'm seeing that on his eye and he it graduated from had a little bit of TV stuff, but his first big thing was Die Hard in 1988. But before then he was in a lot of very much a theater. Well, a very much a theater actor. And, um, he won a Tony first before any of his Emmys. Did he win Emmys? Uh, I forget.
00:14:25
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Um, and then also, um, he died in 2016, which feels like it was, that's so, like that's eight years now. And that does that. I feel like that just happened yesterday. Yeah. I know. so I know. It's a wild.
00:14:45
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Apparently in 2009, the Guardian named him one of the best actors never to have received an Academy award nomination. which is wild that he was never even nominated. Yeah, he is one of the best. Yeah, one of the best actors truly and inarguably. I mean, I think anybody would say that he's one of the best actors you've ever seen. So that's really Just a wide range. He does so many different things. He gives so much gravitas. I mean, I wonder if it's because maybe a lot of his roles were not the main role. And so he's just kind of passed over because there's so many other people and the in the movies and shows and stuff that he's been in.
00:15:32
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Well, it was definitely. Still stupid. Yeah. I mean, of course, um, I'm trying to look it up, but I just saw like a couple of days ago about, ah it was Ralph Fiennes interviewing with somebody probably years ago when Harry Potter was kind of still at his peak. Um, but he was talking about how his, he was talking about his final scene with Alan Rickman, uh, in the show and he was talking about like how
00:16:08
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he felt intimidated. Ralph Fiennes, probably ah another really great actor, was saying that he was intimidated because Alan Rickman was so like delivering so well his his lines that it was kind of intimidating for him to be on the other side of that. and he He was just awed by like how precise his language was every time that they were doing a take.
00:16:35
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and I just want to like find like the actual thing, but it's probably going to take me forever to find it. But it it was it was one of those little things that I was kind of just like, wow, that's really cool. um That even people of like their stature, Ralph Fiennes and stuff, like would look at Alan Rickman and go, that is an impressive actor who knows what he's doing.
00:16:59
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So, well, and the same thing with Dame Maggie Smith today, when I said all of these actors are coming out and saying great things about her. And it's, um you know, whenever somebody passes, people are always going to come out and say really nice things. But being a celebrity, you're on a much bigger scale, um public scale. um And so to see all these other big figures, public figures coming out and saying and like, especially with social media and things these days, it's just um
00:17:30
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It's really heartwarming though, it's like a really positive side of social media.
00:17:37
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Yeah, I agree. It's really nice to see all the lovely things that people say. What it does make me worry about is that, not that people are saying nice things, obviously, but, you know, this happened, I mean, today, right? As far as we know, like this, this is very recent. And so, you know, within hours, all of these like I saw the um Entertainment Tonight posted about dame maggie like Daniel Radcliffe's quotes on her. So I don't know if that was from today, like if they captured stuff that these people had said today or what, but it just feel it it makes me sad that like all of these
00:18:18
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you know, magazines and whatever are they see a death and automatically are like, we need to get that quote, we need to be the ones to get it out there. And then that's gross. But then all and that's not the actor's fault. That's just that's media. But like, how awful for somebody like Daniel Radcliffe, who literally grew up with her as, you know, a mentor for him and to have to like be you know so people media the paparazzi not maybe not paparazzi but you know like the people are going to be looking for quotes from him right away and they don't care about what he's going through and so all of these people who need to grieve don't have the space to properly do that and because they're professional and they're good at what they do and they're good at putting on a front you know they're gonna they're gonna do the kind thing and
00:19:15
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you know give the proper answers and everything but it just sucks that somebody's death is would cause something like this but this isn't obviously this is not even close to the only time that something like this would happen.
00:19:28
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That is such a great point that I didn't even think about. And I can't say that the quotes that I saw today were from today from those people. And i that was such a great point that it it was like entertainment, deadline, um variety, things like that, that I was reading these quotes from. So thank you for bringing that to my attention. ah You're welcome. I'm always ready to point out the evils of the media. the Yeah, you are.
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if
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That definitely is one reliable thing.
Robbie Coltrane's Impact on Harry Potter and Beyond
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ah Which leads us on to our next fun person that is no longer with us, Robbie Coltrane, who died in 2-2022 at the age of 72.
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And he gained worldwide recognition in the 2000s for playing Ruby as hybrid in the Harry Potter film series. But he started his career appearing alongside Hugh Laurie, Stephen Fry and Emma Thompson in the sketch series, Alfresco.
00:20:38
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I, again, I already mentioned that Alan was the only one that I've seen a ah large body of his work. Haggard is the only thing I've seen Robbie in that I know of, but I definitely want to check out this Alfresco show because I'm sorry, Hugh Laurie, Stephen Fry, Emma Thompson. I mean, come on. that I mean, that's just crazy.
00:21:04
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Right. So and I think, you know, with it being Harry Potter, a lot of these actors come from Britain and we don't get a lot of that content. You know, we do have BBC, but there's going to be so much that we don't see being in America. Um, so I'm kind of, I'm kind of jealous of, of what they get over there.
00:21:32
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just subscribe to BBC and then start getting BBC stuff, right? Yeah, I'm going to have to. it is true but There's so much um good TV that comes out of, um that comes out of the UK that we don't really, um that we don't even like know about because nobody talks about it here. We don't even know what we're missing. Yeah. They, they have a lot of fun stuff that they do over there for sure.
00:22:00
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Apparently, he played in Brave as Lord Dingwall. Oh, that's cute. I didn't know that. Interesting. I didn't either. He voiced Lord Dingwall in Brave. that That's funny. Now I'm going to have to watch that again and just go, there's Hagrid. Any excuse to watch Brave? I know. It is a good one. I like that show a lot. Or the movie.
00:22:24
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ah he was awesome Okay, this is just something I have to say. Have you ever heard of the Tale of Despero? and Yes. so A mouse one, right? A mouse one, right? Yeah. So that movie has so many Harry Potter actors in it. Really? Yes. It appears so many times in other people's IMDBs that I just did not know. But we have- Emma Watson is too, right? Emma Watson is Princess P. Okay. Yeah. And then, let's see, Robbie Coltrane is Gregory. Then
00:23:01
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Uh, there was other people, not that he's Harry Potter, but yeah, I mean, but he's just desperate. Yeah. Oh, Devin Klein, Stanley Tucci. I mean, there's like a bunch of act cast. It is a stack cast for an animated show like that. Yeah. Lloyd as hovis, the little chef guy, Sigourney Reaver. It's just,
00:23:31
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That was a stacked cast, but was it just Hagrid and just Emma Watson, or am I thinking of another movie too? I'm probably thinking of another movie too, but I still, Terrell Despero is an underrated film that doesn't get talked about.
00:23:49
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i'm go to say Now Robbie Coltrane's in it, so there you go. Yeah, I mean honestly I never would have been able to name that movie, but as soon as you said it I immediately knew it was a mouse, but yeah, I wouldn't have remembered that. It's crazy. but who won What um company put this on? The company was
00:24:20
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Hmm. Where does that say? I don't know. I thought it was blind directed by Sam Fell.
00:24:39
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I'm not seeing anything.
00:24:47
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Why doesn't it tell me what company? I know. It's weird that IDMDB doesn't have. The company. Let's see. No one cares about the company. Gosh. It doesn't matter. I was just curious. So we can move on. Countries of origin, it says, is the United Kingdom and the United States. Universal pictures. There you go. Okay. So it's universal. Interesting.
00:25:15
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hagrid Hagrid was definitely a very loved character. And what's worse is that they did, um I think they um they filmed the like reunion, Harry Potter reunion. Yes. Yeah, I know exactly what you're about to say. And then he just like throws that, he just throws that lovely line at us and just makes us all cry. Just like, I may not be here for always, but like,
00:25:43
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haggard will and i'm just like yes yes uh beats you up every night yes emotional damage yeah but moving on there's a ton of other ones um but and we we can't sit here and name them all but we can go through some of the big ones. according to But if you're if you're curious, according to IMDB, 29 actors and actresses passed away that have had some part in the in the filming of the Harry Potter movies. Some of them are very big roles, some of them are very small roles. um And one of them didn't even get to have the chance their for their role to debut, which we'll get to at the very end of this
Michael Gambon: Beyond Dumbledore
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thing.
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but We obviously can talk about Sir Michael Gambon and Richard Harris. Our Dumbledore's both have passed away, ah but both brought different versions of the character to life. That kind of gives us a ah unique dynamic that not a lot of people get to get to see. Yeah, I mean those. but It's yeah, just like sucks for both of them. I mean,
00:27:03
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same Same as all these, a Harry Potter had a really stocked cast too. There were so many people that even if you know us in the US didn't really know them as well because they were you know primarily UK film and TV or theater, um still you could tell that that these people were all like not just like regular old actors who were know adequate at what they were doing. They were all very, very, very good at what what they needed to do.
00:27:35
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Yes, Michael Gambon was probably more, o I've seen more of his stuff than Richard Harris. Richard Harris, I like saw one or two things and that was more of his later stuff as he was getting older. um Like one of the things I remember hit Richard Harrison was The Gladiator, which is a very interesting um interesting movie.
00:28:02
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But Michael Gambon played in, what was it, Paddington as Uncle Pastuzo, apparently.
00:28:17
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um
00:28:21
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Dr. Who was always a fun one. The fantastic Mr. Fox as Franklin Bean.
00:28:36
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and
00:28:44
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And... And more, obviously. He had... Michael Gambon had a life. Oh, Christmas Carol, the movie. According to Christmas Carol, the movie, he was the ghost of Christmas present.
00:28:58
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But I mean, a lot of people probably played in Christmas Carol. There's been a lot of renditions of that. ah A lot of renditions of that. But he he played in a lot of stuff too, it looks like. um Then we have Helen McCroy as Nersissa Malfoy, which I only remember her as Nersissa Malfoy.
Helen McCroy's Subtle Brilliance
00:29:20
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But I'm sure she had quite a few things in her IMDB. Unless you guys know of anything.
00:29:31
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No, just one of those that I hadn't really seen much of, but did fantastic in the movies. In the Harry Potter movies, I should clarify. Yes. Richard Griffiths as Vernon Dursley.
00:29:45
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yeah Most of these are and it's just like we it's mostly just weird to think of them as not being with us anymore because you know these yeah these movies are eternal for us you know we will never forget them we know a lot of the scenes by heart we know exactly how they deliver all of their lines and so because and that's like the point right of making a movie or making a show or but even writing a book like to to set something in stone you know and to create these wonderful memories that we have and or that we can then create and anyway so to like have them kind of memorialized and eternalized in our heads and then think of thinking of them not existing anymore is just is just very strange even if we don't
00:30:29
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know them very well outside of these movies that we're talking about. Yeah. Well, Richard Griffiths was one that I had seen a couple of things from. He was in one of my favorite movies growing up called Bedtime Stories with Adam Sandler. he was It's a really good one. You should definitely see it.
00:30:52
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i But he ah he had a very funny role in that. He he was a big germaphobe, ah so he didn't like germs or anything like that. was fun It was kind of hilarious. But he he brought he brought a lot of comedy to a role for someone that I was constantly seeing as like a very serious person. It was great to see him kind of play a comedy role.
00:31:18
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So that's definitely a recommended movie for for you to watch if you haven't seen it. And then the other one was um one starring Emma Thompson called Ballerina Shoes. I think it was called.
00:31:32
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um Sorry not Emma Thompson, Emma Watson. I just got those two mixed up. ah but So basically it was Hermione and Vernon Dursley in the same movie and it was kind of and seeing that them interact was is a really kind of just different thing altogether. So I would highly suggest watching those two movies. Those were fun. But we move on to John Hurt, our lovely Ollivander, who is probably one of my favorite actors. He played a lot of TV shows stuff. But so I mainly know him from
00:32:18
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Merlin the TV show he played the voice of the dragon i and was like the narrator of that of that TV show and then he also ended up becoming a one of the doctors of Doctor Who so he he he got to star in a TV movie for that and that was probably one of my favorites for those of you who are Doctor Who fans and then um Just a bunch of other stuff. he He did a lot of voice work, ah because his voice is just kind of iconic in that direction in that mind. But um he's just really cool. It's kind of sad that he's not here anymore. I mean, all this whole episode is pretty sad. Yeah, it's a little bit.
00:33:10
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But like it's just it's it's fun to like remember some of the stuff that they were in when that that you've you've seen other stuff in. So yeah it's fun to talk about that too a little bit. But ah it kind of just is a little bit sad when you're kind of just going, oh yeah, I remember this and this. And then that's that's it. That's all you get.
The Lost Peeves: Rick Mayhall's Unseen Role
00:33:31
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Because they can't make anymore. So that leaves us with...
00:33:39
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a few others that we're going to go on here because we just want to recognize that their their input um that was given, which would be Vern Troyer, who played Griff Hook in the first movie, Leslie Phillips, who was the sorting hat, Timothy Bateson, who voiced the role of creature, and Uh, a very sad one, Robert Knox, who played Marcus Bellby in the, what was it? Uh, the half-blood Prince, wasn't it? um he's young though with Yeah. Yeah. That one was sad. That one is probably one of the saddest ones. Uh, he got stabbed trying to get into a fight, uh, trying to save his brother from the fight that was happening. Um.
00:34:38
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Not in too many details are are known outside of that, just says that that's what it was. Which is just, you know, it's kind of sad to see an 18 year old go go like that. It's really, really sad. After filming a fun movie like Harry Potter,
00:34:55
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ah Robert Hardy, who played the lovely Cornelius Fudge, and of course, ah Roger Lloyd Pack, who played Barty Crouch Jr., which is, I didn't know that. No, Barty Crouch. Sorry, not Barty Crouch Jr., that's David Tennant. Barty Crouch, thank you. I didn't know that Barty Crouch had passed away, but but he apparently had passed away a while ago, so that's kind of like surprising.
00:35:32
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But this wouldn't be a, a Peeves Gabfest episode without naming ah the one the only, Peeves the Poltergeist, who was actually casted and actually played by Rick Mayhall, may allll male who also has passed away.
00:35:58
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so one actor who who who didn't get his his film debut to bring his character to life and the whole reason we even have this podcast. So I find it very fitting to end with that unless you two have anything else to talk about.
00:36:18
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No, I mean, I think we kind of covered it all. this is um This is a really low energy episode that we're doing because this is really sad. But I mean, you know, like you said, James, it's nice to reminisce on what they've all accomplished and what they've brought to us. so Well, and like Robbie Coltrane said, you know, they may be gone, but their memories will last forever with these films. Correct. So.
00:36:44
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And even though we weren't able to name all of the wonderful actors that are on this list, you're always welcome to go and check them out and see what else they have done. Some of these guys were very, um, very popular in the olden times and some have some really great movies. So do check them out. Uh, the, the best list I can give you is the one on imdb dot.com.
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which is just Harry Potter actors that sadly passed away. So if you google go ahead and Google that, you can go ahead and see all of the lovely people on there. um Maggie Damesmith has not been added yet because her passing was so recent, but I'm sure you'll see that coming here soon.
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We want to thank you for joining us today and causing havoc, even though it's very reminiscent havoc. I ah wasn't very much havoc. Maybe the one time that we didn't cause havoc. Well, that's why I did change the script and said, thank you for joining us today. True. So thank you for joining us today.
Engaging with the Hosts: Social Media and Connection
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Where can our listeners go ahead and find you guys?
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You can find me on Instagram at Megan, M-E-G-A-N underscore Lachowski, L-A-C-H-O-W-S-K-I. And from there, you can find all of my other projects. And you can find me on Instagram at Captain dot.McDee. That's M-C-D-E-E.
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