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Furiosa & Sony State of Play Summer 2024
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Introduction and Multiverse Theories
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Speaker
Hello, you are listening to the all new anti-family podcast for the week of June 2nd, 2024 episode. I don't normally do this, boys and girls. Episode number 500 years old. We are just ancient, ancient elf people. Oh, it's five zero zero. Five years. See, this is what I'm talking about. I'm catching up on the the age of the United States. We'll get this.
00:00:29
Speaker
Wait, we're, we're lasted longer than the United States. I was like way older than the U.S., right? Yeah. If you count episodes as years. Bill Clinton can't be 500 years old. Yeah. Bill Clinton, he started the whole thing. Use that logic. Use episodes as years. We are older than the United States of America. Oh boy. Well,
00:00:56
Speaker
Before I'm about to barf up a bunch of shrimp I just ate. Quince the rule episode? I guess, I guess. I just had to, I think that's a word. Just had to figure it out. Yeah. Just Google, chat GPT, other ways to find, to say the word 500. Everybody, my name is Devin Copac. With me is Steve Oteri. How you doing? Steve Oteri. How you doing? Steve Oteri. Good to be here. Chris Galante.
00:01:27
Speaker
How you doing? Chris Galante. Great to be here. Chris Galante. How you doing? Hey John Suarez. How you doing? Jonathan Suarez. Great to be here. Johnny Suarez.
00:01:40
Speaker
Uh, hello. Yes. Thank you. Is this a multiverse thing? Like, did we bring all of this? Because I said your name twice and I had to figure out a way out of the hole. Wouldn't it be really fucked up if all the multiverse versions of you were the same? Like they're not there at all. You're like the constant, like you, you have no
University Closures and Anecdotes
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like change or variance. Like you're always the same type of person in the same scenario. Isn't that basically the Lego movie?
00:02:09
Speaker
I guess maybe I don't know. I can't read. It's been a minute. I mean, like, yeah, you're that kind of what wouldn't a lot of it just be that but it would be like they do one thing slightly different to change things. Well, that's the thing. Like my other multiverse cells never changed anything. Like they're the only.
00:02:29
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constant within the multiverses like i'm always a disappointment you never make any like changes or diversions to another branch of life they just this this devin held in the fart at prom
00:02:46
Speaker
Well, I'm saying that the multiversal Devin, all of them never held it. I had never. Yeah, I'm always making. There's never a version of me that's like an actor. There's never. It's just you changed your idea on like what shirt to wear one day and it didn't do nothing. Honestly, I think it'd be funnier if if I didn't even do that, like literally.
00:03:11
Speaker
Just the only interesting thing about me is I killed every other version of me. Here's the Devon who didn't see Godzilla versus Kong today. Yeah. Nothing changed. He's just like, can't wait to see Godzilla versus Kong later. That's the only thing that changed. It's like you're tired to see the movie more.
00:03:33
Speaker
Yeah. That's what I take. I think you're right though, Steve. I think that is what the multiverse really would be, right? Is everybody was probably depressing, dude. Oh, but one of them's like absolutely just a freak. Okay. He's got to have one and that's the one hunting them all. Yeah. It's like, Oh, here's, here's like Devin who didn't see Godzilla versus Kong yet. And here's beaver Devin. Oh my God.
00:03:58
Speaker
Okay. Whoa. Give me some wood change version of you. That's the only one. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm sorry to break it. See all your Marvel heads out there, but the multiverse is probably pretty boring. Oh, there you go.
00:04:22
Speaker
Yeah, how the heck have you guys been doing? It's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah. There's a big one. Yeah. We got a lot of stuff. We took a two week sabbatical. Is that right? I think one week. I think it's just one.
Movie Industry Changes
00:04:36
Speaker
Just one. OK. I said I don't want to do it with you guys this week. And we had to. It was really. Seven days ago and Steve to get back on board. He gave him some presents. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't like any. Guys.
00:04:51
Speaker
Have you heard what happened in my school? I'm in the morning. I'm in the morning. Well, Steve, I need to break it to you, but I had something to do with that. You did that? You had something to do with 9-11? What? Oh, whoa. Holy shit, Devin, calm down. No, I just closed Steve's school down. That's a huge reveal, though. Crushed all the buildings. Chris, if you want to drop on episode 500 that you had all
00:05:17
Speaker
A little bit of a hand in a 9-11. I didn't have a little bit of a hand in any little 9-11. There was never a little 9-11, and I can recall. Oops, I just happened to sell my plane ticket on eBay, a website that was around that year. I didn't sell my license to anybody. I didn't, I swear. You helped buy someone Microsoft Flight Simulator in 2001. Okay. You just steam bought it for somebody? Yeah.
00:05:45
Speaker
All right. You know, I'll do a good deal for the day. This is my random person. All right. It's like an anonymous gift of pizza. I'll give them the place. You you arts was closed. Yeah, that's real. I didn't realize that is real. They shuttered. They shuttered my alma mater. That's great. Does that mean your your thing just gets thrown in the trash? Oh, no.
00:06:09
Speaker
Thanos snapped. It's gone. It doesn't not exist anymore? I don't feel so
Mad Max: Furiosa Review
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good, Mr. Movie Mike. Seven, four years of Steve's life does not exist anymore. Dude, that's actually kind of the mind blow. Here's the thing, okay? So if anything ever happens to my diploma, I will never be able to get a new copy. Oh, shit. That's awful. Yeah. That's pretty nuts, dude. I never thought about that, actually.
00:06:39
Speaker
I was just shocked, generally speaking, that a school like that would close, especially in Philly, you know, you would think. Because that's existed there for a bit. That has been there since the 70s? I mean, you know, I don't know if this doesn't affect a lot of people worldwide, but I remember.
00:06:59
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A famous UArts alumni. Did David Lynch go to UArts? You know, like, it's not that I didn't think it was impossible. But I've just like literally never heard of a college or like a university closing down. 11. Rowan's the next one up. Hey, Steve, maybe if you wait, did you still have a student debt? No, no, no, no. Are you paid off? That would have been awesome. That would have been rude. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Fuck those guys.
00:07:30
Speaker
Yeah, but you don't, you don't pay the, you don't pay the college. Who am I paying? Literally, who am I paying? I literally pay the bank that loaned you the money, not the- Nah, nah, nah. I've seen crazier things on court TV.
00:07:45
Speaker
Yeah, I've just seen Jared Leto as a notable alumni. Oh, I'm sorry. Also, the angry video game nerd. Oh, sure. Oh, Kate Flannery from The Office. Don't know that one. Joe Dante. Oh, Joe Dante. Joe Dante is huge.
00:08:20
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I like the idea of Steve showing up in like the tuxedo suit from my cousin Vinny.
00:08:32
Speaker
Just try in court try to explain like who with the money even go to you know, it's my back I need that back. They're not using it. It's funny. You bring up Joe Pesci because he went to temple Oh Connected baby. I just yeah, I saw a clip of like the scene where he's like I
00:08:50
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telling the judge why he's wearing that goofy suit. And I was like, man, the movie is good. That's a funny movie. I've seen it in a minute because it's great. Great film. Learned a lot about grits watching that film. Why? Wait, can you? I never look back. Why did you burp through that? Because I'm drinking right now. Chris, I forgot Bob Saget.
00:09:14
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Oh, notable dead man, Bob Saget. John Oates. Oh, John Oates from All Notes. Are him and are him and are him and Darrell Hall still beefing? I heard they're beefing. I think so, dude. Oates sounds like an asshole, to be honest. Yeah, but he had a mustache. So he did. He did. He looks like Zach Rulo. I know. Oates is the money man. Oates is the money man in that relationship. He's all the face.
00:09:44
Speaker
Oh, apparently Hall. Also, they both went to Hall and Oates. I bet you that's where they met. Sorry, dude. Steve played a show when I was a baby. Who's your John Oates that you could have met in in school and then didn't.
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00:09:59
Speaker
What? John Oates went back to you are. What is that? I'm saying I'm saying it's clear. They met in college. Chris Kalami. No, no, you didn't meet Chris in college. You did start a band.
00:10:14
Speaker
You didn't do any of that. Uh, there was this really cool guy named Alan. Who was that guy that you had like a little bit of a relationship with and then fell off. Alan played guitar. Um, and he was super cool because like the first week we were there, this one kid got alcohol poisoning and we basically just watched over him. So it was just like me and Alan while this kid was like naked in a tub, just puking all over himself. And now he's just noodling on the guitar the entire time. So you should reconnect with Alan and be like,
00:10:43
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Alan, what's your what's your musical like right now? Like you want to start a band? I got each other. I got a sound cloud. I got a sound cloud. I got a sound cloud. God, how does your music even get made now? Alan's crying right now. John Oates going, I got a sound cloud. He loved you. He had the banners and the hats and everything. He told me that little shirts said you have some farts.
00:11:13
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Uh, we had a, I remember at the, uh, the UARTs, uh, school store, uh, there was a little, um, shirt. That's a, the UARTs fighting unicorns undefeated. Cause we didn't actually have a football team. That makes sense. Yeah, it's kind of fun. They never did anything with UFARTS, huh? Um, Chris really said that like, they might've wounded that. They never took advantage. To be fair, it has been, you know, you have a lot of artistic people there. You could have, I mean, just it's, it's one letter.
00:11:42
Speaker
When did you graduate? 2010? Oh, nine. Oh, nine. Jesus. Jesus me. No, I mean, isn't that like, right? Well, I graduated a little bit later because I didn't go directly to actually graduating. Oh, nine, two, because I got fired by temple university. Oh, what happened with me? Tell me, tell me these personal. He had a he had a hollow scenario scenario.
00:12:09
Speaker
No, it's something way less interesting. Apparently I was missing, I had like 12 credits left. And I had that nightmare. But you lived that nightmare. Dude, it was the worst. And I had to take, I just took none of the bullshit just to get the credits out.
00:12:26
Speaker
You talk like dinosaurs, dinosaurs, one on one or something. I took camping, volleyball, tennis, yoga. And I think that got me to 12. That sounds fun. That sounds just like fun. It was. I was in really good shape, too. Man, if only college is actually like that, like that was the point. I mean, like that last semester was actually the most I've learned. I'm really good at tennis. I can play that shit pretty well.
00:12:55
Speaker
And I'm camping, I learned a lot about like, leave no trace camping. Leave no trace camping? Leave no trace camping. So like murder a man and then just get out of there? Keep everything you carry in, you carry out. No trash, nothing left behind. Wow, that sounds like some hippy dippy. Yeah, it is. Biden bullshit. That's what that sounds like.
00:13:17
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But I can drive out in the woods and leave no trace of my camp. Except your carcass. When
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00:13:24
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Devin's hunting me in the near future, he'll never find me. It's the world's deadliest game. Yeah, it is. Me. He's just going, Chris.
00:13:33
Speaker
I'm not cut out for this, but I put out. Oh, Devon, of course you have chub rub. You didn't learn how to properly pitch a tent like I did. You didn't rub your thighs up with Vaseline. I didn't use baby powder. Sorry. Classic shit for chub rub, babe. This is a scene from my Yowie that I've written.
00:14:00
Speaker
Oh man, Kevin and Chris go camping. That's what Steve learned in college, how to do yowie.
00:14:08
Speaker
Yeah, it's true. Fucking it's true. That's good point. Oh my God. That is nuts. I had no idea here when like were you just know I learned out from Galani. Galani notified me. I'm going to read this text to you. Yeah. Because this is how I received the message because you know how like the latest message comes first. This is how it came to me. It came to me. So the message that was left on my screen was I don't think you woke up to this.
00:14:37
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I don't think you exist anymore Steve.
00:14:40
Speaker
And I'm like, what? What the fuck does that mean? Chris is like, the new strains came in, they're crazy. And so this is how I found out. Chris's message is, you arts, quote, and farts close and is gone forever. Gritty will solve the land after the main building is destroyed and land scoured according to the Philadelphia Inquirer. Chris fucking hates art. He hates art, man.
00:15:10
Speaker
I just hate slash love that Steve read that and had to like really figure out how much this is a joke. Like, what was a joke? What was real? Like, ah, fucking. Okay. The green pie is probably fake. All this I assumed.
00:15:27
Speaker
No, I'm only human. You cited a source. Did you? Did you? Did you follow this up or are we still just assuming? No, no, I googled it. He is 10,000 percent correct. So no emails like nobody sent you anything, huh?
00:15:43
Speaker
No, um, they they were like being kind of weird and being like Heads up heads up. You're not gonna have any access to your edu account anymore I'm like, well that you know, I can I did graduate more than a decade ago. That makes sense. Yeah, okay They lost funding Steve. They lost all of their funding. I imagine owning two high-rises and an old timey fake like
00:16:09
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like Washington DC building in the middle of center city, Philadelphia will set you back. I imagine that. Yeah, that's not going to be, never heard that way. Plus, you know, come on, keep in mind, look at all the huge, successful arts students that graduated in the past 20 years. I'm going to be honest with successful careers. This is real. I really think this is a conspiracy theory. I'm listening.
00:16:33
Speaker
I think Temple and Drexel had something to do with it because Temple has been expanding almost nonstop since I left. I wouldn't be surprised by that because they did say in a statement that there was going to be, like they were like, well, you know, if you're still doing your ongoing continuing studies and stuff, you can reach out to Drexel, Temple, or more College of Art.
00:16:57
Speaker
And then like years, years ago, Drexel bought Hanuman University to swallow that whole dude. So Temple, that would make sense. That's where all my tuition money went. I'm in whole schools. Temple, I think when I was going, when I was going was the largest purveyor of land in Philadelphia. That's wild. They were buying more than any other company or person.
00:17:25
Speaker
you know what's crazy is people still talk about like not that it's like of course they'd still be talking about but the new people at my work with the younger kids they're like yeah temples like uh really sketchy still like the area around it and i'm like yeah yeah never changes pretty scary or never changes
00:17:45
Speaker
Maybe that's what they're doing. They're like, you know what? We're going to buy your buildings and then just move people there.
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00:17:51
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Yeah, we'll move the probably the business building there because they're like, they're all white. I don't want to be there. They're terrified to go to school there. Oh, Temple, I miss that school. Yeah, I do. I do not miss my old college. I had some good times there.
00:18:13
Speaker
Well, that's right. You lived there, right? Or did you? That's why it was white kids from Pennsylvania moving, going to temple and then them seeing Billy for the first time. Oh, Lord, I got such a kick out of that. Let me tell you. I'd imagine it was quite, quite scary.
00:18:29
Speaker
Oh, shocking bracing. Some might say, um, let's just call it real world stuff. Real problems. I was in a Kedoba once and, uh, it was my junior year at temple and they bought a Kedoba, moved it in there. It was like, it was an old tenement building that they bought and moved everybody out of. Get out of here. Burritos here now. So I've eaten his Kedoba, my buddy.
00:18:56
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And, uh, it's just like these freshmen kids and they're really loud and they're obnoxious, you know, 17, 18 year olds. And out of the corner of my eye, I see a, uh, African American woman marching, uh, past the, you know, could have had glass walls. So she's marching through the glass walls to the door. She kicks the doors open. Like it's an old Western saloon and she comes in and she says loudly.
00:19:25
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I ain't had a man in five years. And the freshmen shut the fuck up and they all look at her and there's this one young kid and he makes eye contact with her. And she says to him, I ain't had a dick in five years. And she growls and just leaves. And they shut the fuck up. They were not as loud as they were. And I was laughing.
00:19:51
Speaker
Well, I've been so long. That is pretty terrifying. I know. I know. It was great. Yeah, that's that's the memories, man. You never. That's why I went to school. I want to go to school for this. This is why I'm going. That's why I have $90,000. How many credits was that class, Chris? That class, those five credits. Five credits? That's pretty true. That's the control of Philadelphia society.
00:20:18
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Those are the credit for every dick. You got to hang out for an hour and you just watch what happens. That's all.
Debate on 'Furiosa' Runtime and Content
00:20:28
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That's enough of my story time. You got a lot to talk about. We took a break. We saw a big movie. We did see a big movie that no one else saw, apparently. Yeah, we. Yeah, I saw quite a lot.
00:20:43
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So the movie we saw was just beaten by Garfield. Rest in peace. Oh, no, he was official that he got beaten by Garfield. Yeah. Garfield beat Furiosa up in a in an alley somewhere. Oh, OK. No, I see. No, official box office numbers has Garfield jumped ahead. Furiosa, the film that we went to go see and enjoyed. I would write. We all like it. I like it. It was good.
00:21:13
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liked it. I don't I don't think I loved it. No, I didn't either. But yeah, I enjoyed enough of it. And I really should did better than Garfield. I totally did too. And I really liked Chris Hemsworth in it. I think he's really something. He's definitely a standout in it. Yeah, he's a great villain in this movie. And what I really liked when I, you know, I thought about this movie a lot too, after watching it. And
00:21:43
Speaker
There are some nice little details that I think, that I caught and like thinking about it. One being how Dementous looks, which is Chris Hemsworth's character in the beginning of the movie versus the end. And it's not just age. Like I think he looks dumber and dumber as the movie goes on. Okay. I really do. I think there is something too furious at growing up, seeing him initially as almost like Jesus. Cause he like, the first thing you see him, he's like,
00:22:11
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He's like in a robe in that parachute. And he's in the white parachute. He's almost like a religious figure, like a cult leader. Yeah. And then as the movie goes on, he gets like kind of fatter and uglier and stupider looking. Well, it's like I don't quite I'm sure there's a reason that I'd be interested to see like what like people think. But it's like because he's wearing the white
00:22:40
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blonde hair and then in the middle of the movie, you know, that red little color bomb goes off and then he's like, red beard, red cape.
00:22:50
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And then near the end when he's older, he's just like the capes and tatters. He's gray. He's definitely a little bit more unhinged by the end of it. There's a slight makeup change too. Not just the old makeup. I think it just looks uglier and dumber looking. And I think that's purposeful.
00:23:10
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Because Dementis in that film is not intelligent at all. Like I think of more. He's got like that crazy like a fox. He does, but he never thinks ahead. Like he's not a long term thinker. He's a short term thinker. Even his like, tonation. Like because like when they're in the scene where like they're making the offer for like.
00:23:29
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gas town. It's like he does like a flex like a muscle pose and like he's like rippling with muscle but like by the end of the film it's like it's there like it's Chris Hemsworth still but it's like it's it's never to that point of like being like impressive like you like you're saying it's like you're seeing somebody who is just kind of like
00:23:48
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definitely stripped down of their previous like mental authority and glory on this person. Yeah. Like I think you watch him lose his glory. And I really think it's because he's he never thinks things through like he has maybe some good ideas, some clever moves in the beginning, but they're shitty, too. Like he's immoral and unethical, obviously. This would be in the wasteland. But I also think he's just a terrible planner and he never goes into anything thinking it quite through.
00:24:17
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But he's constantly floundering and he's constantly stepping on his own. Like good things that could happen to him constantly every time like he's like rather than like, you know, be good to these people that he had found that have like the secret of like this, like very peaceful thing. You know, he goes and like kills them in a weird like massacre on a cliff. He literally shows up to a Morton Joe.
00:24:46
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with his entire gang in front of them being like, we want to fight you like the worst way to go about doing that ever. And he gets decimated. They kill a lot of his men. It's really stupid. And I like that. I like that he's
00:25:05
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very different than a lot of the other villains that are in the Mad Max universe. I like his voice too. Like I heard that a little nasally hype. Yeah. He apparently took inspiration from his granddad. Okay. He was like, he was like, I don't know what it is. And it was like, he was like Australians from the 1970s talked to different than they do now. Oh, they all kind of talked to nasally when they kind of talk like me.
00:25:29
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And you know, it's you know, it's really interesting that they really nailed down the fact that this all does take place in Australia. Yeah. Like that's interesting way to go about it. We always assume, but like now it's confirmed. Like officially here. This could only be happening in Australia, too. Just funny to me. It's like the rest of the world is fine. Yeah, exactly. This is insane in Australia. Yeah, I like the world building, too. It's not.
00:26:00
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the sexiest thing in a movie. Right. But I think it's I love the world. I really do like this. This is one of my favorite movie series. Road Warrior is still my favorite. One of my favorite movies ever. Yeah. And so Road Warrior.
00:26:17
Speaker
Fury Road. Max, too. The original is great. Yeah, they're just usually they're all at least good. I think this is better than Thunderdome, like without a doubt. I agree. Yeah, this is definitely somewhere in the middle for me. This feels like if this came out before Fury Road.
00:26:35
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like we might like it more, but because Fury Road exists, I'll tell you, dude, you're not a few hits from it either before or three years after. The Gap, I think, really fucking murdered this one. I think the gap, I think the the fact that we exist in a world with that movie, which is just that it's this movie, but it's shorter, it's quicker. And I get you, but I also think this movie would have done a lot better in the box office if it came out.
00:27:03
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Because the hype the hype for Mad Max was still there. I feel like we're, you know, 10 years almost quality. I'm not talking about quality. I'm talking purely how this did. And which is a bigger issue about theaters in general, like where how they're dying. Yeah, we went we went on a Friday night Memorial Day weekend,
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Friday night.
00:27:28
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Like when I remember a Friday night at a movie theater, those places are supposed to be popping. Literally, we used to ignore going to the movies on Fridays to go on Thursdays. Yeah, yeah. To kind of miss the big crowd. Yeah. That is not a thing anymore. No. Isn't that a little sad? It is really sad. It's sad. It is sad. It's very sad. I actually think they're going to get rid of Thursday night screenings.
00:27:55
Speaker
Like what's the point? What's the point? Cause I'm not wasting a Friday night watch. You're right. You're right. But I mean, nobody's going at all. Are they just going to like, are, is there going to be a point where movie theaters are closed for a majority of the week and they're only opened on weekends? Yes. That is something I'll be honest. I'm shocked that hasn't happened yet. Like, why the fuck is a movie theater open on Monday? It's a good point. I know.
00:28:25
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There are there are the unemployed and comedians And let's be honest to really comes down to money people don't have a lot of it now, I mean listen I I work I work at a dispensary and even that's taking a hit I people don't have a lot of money for luxuries right now
00:28:52
Speaker
You know, uh, very unrelated, but something I saw and I thought it was a joke. So California is flirting with introducing a law where you are being charged by the mile because the infrastructure was usually paid by gas. But now there's some of the electric vehicles in the city of California that they're not making enough money. So they're like, there's a pilot program where they're charging you 30 cents a mile.
00:29:20
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And people are like, uh, what? So it's like the most heavily trafficked. Yeah. God forbid you just, you know, you just, you're not getting literally nickel and dime to death. But I mean, listen, it's, uh, theaters though, outside of the current economy, I've been on the bubble for a bit. Like this has been coming for a while and there's going to have to be some real change. I can't imagine there not be.
00:29:48
Speaker
For it to be a viable industry still they're not gonna go all out overnight, but it's gonna be a slow Cutting of shit. Yeah, our world of theaters is gonna be very different from 10 years like from now and you know, it's sad but it's also I mean, it's evident self-evident, you know, like
00:30:13
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With streaming services, we all kind of thought this was going to happen sooner or later. At least, I mean, we talked about it for years, it seems. It was very, it was very different because I think, you know.
00:30:27
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The late 2010s with like Endgame and like movies, movies were making billions of dollars like Black Panther made a billion dollars. Avengers Endgame made a billion dollars. Captain Marvel made a billion dollars like almost by accident. Yeah. If you told me like five years after that point,
00:30:52
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that like movies, big, big name movies would be struggling in theaters. Also like weekends that were supposed to be like free weekends. You know, explain to me that there was a plague that went around and we all have to stay at home. That would make more sense. It would make more sense. But also like be like. Did the plague make people not care about movies anymore?
00:31:15
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They'll be like, nah, movies got way too long. Movies are taking like four hours. Well, it's a combination of things, right? It's never just one thing. It's definitely...
00:31:27
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a lot of modern audiences. And when I say that, I mean like Zoomers and below. I just think the attention span is not there. I don't think it's there for like long form media at any cost. Like you barely have somebody for like 30 seconds now, much less, you know, and two hours. I want to I want to hope that that is a youthful
00:31:57
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thing that when they get older, that's going to change because, you know, I mean, as you get older, that you grow out of stuff.
00:32:07
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Chris, this is how we get into our cyberpunk nightmare world. OK, well, we just have ads all over our contact lenses. I mean, look at millennials. We're retrospective. We look back and we say, oh, these things, that was a bad move. Dude, Chris, we're the day walkers, man. We lived in a world before the Internet. We live in the world after the Internet. Sure. But we we we point out the the inefficiencies and the failures that we made.
00:32:37
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. Tried to change and fix them as we grew up. Right. But here's the problem, though. Our generation.
00:32:45
Speaker
was never given the power that the previous generation with the boomers had. So all of like our knowledge of like being able to like try and maintain both realms is just going to non-existence because like we don't have power. Yeah. All the all the boomers held their jobs of power. Like our presidents are going to be 80 octogenarian year old like people. So.
00:33:10
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By the time that we're finally able to take control, we'll be in retirement age. Yeah, I
TV Horror Tropes and Comparisons
00:33:18
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don't know. I don't want to completely negate long for media in general. I think the mode of it will change. I agree. I think with television shows, the way shows work,
00:33:34
Speaker
telling people that it's like you're watching something long form, but you're tricking them into watching like 13 episodes of a 45 minute show. So it's like a 10 hour movie. It's basically a 10 hour movie. The shows are not the same way. And a good example of that. There is a TV show on right now called Evil. Mm hmm. That is on Paramount Plus and oh, some other cable channel. I don't even remember.
00:34:02
Speaker
The fact is though, that show, its storytelling is right out of the 90s. Really? Directly completely. Like in a good way or a bad way? It's Monster of the Week. Oh. And it's interesting because I look, I checked out the ratings and the demographics for that show. It's all skews older, completely. And a show I didn't really know about for a while that is somewhat popular too.
00:34:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's one of those where you're like, it's on season five. Yeah. Oh, I just heard of this. Yeah. What the hell? So I think they people are making older media for older generations. Like that's something that's a little newer. And I'm not just talking about like the IPs. I'm talking about the way the story is told. Can I can I ask you guys a question? Because you're making me think, Chris.
00:34:54
Speaker
Furiosa is is a show that is like, I'm sorry, I called it a movie that is a movie that is chapterized. Like there are like there's like chapter one, chapter two, chapter three, chapter four, chapter five. Do you think there is a version of this that is. Turned like you could turn it into an HBO Max show or a Max show. I think if you fleshed out certain chapters and didn't cut some things out, specifically the 40 day
00:35:23
Speaker
or like if if you had a show, you could expand on that, I think a little bit more. OK. And I think that you would be a better way to tell the story. Just another way, Zack Snyder changed the game. Baby. Yeah, no, I wasn't. I will say that I'm not even just bullshitting you. The first thing I thought of when I saw chapter one, I was like, dude, Zaddy,
00:35:52
Speaker
He did it again. Zaddy Zaddy did it first. I like that he was there for me. He invented chapters in movies. Yeah. Whereas Zaddy Zaddy does it for no reason. I feel like there's a reason. Like it had a pretty good one. Yeah. Because it was like going. What if they were like Clone Wars, the 40 day war? I would. I would watch the fuck out of that. That would be awesome to shit, right? Yeah. But like, I guess like going back to that movie, though, like.
00:36:22
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There was a lot I didn't like. And this is some of it I think is just prequel, like prequel issues. Like, oh no, I hope she makes it.
00:36:33
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You know, like, OK, like it will be fine. Like there's no tension. Yeah, there's no. And it just kind of felt meandering a little bit like when they did introduce the 40 Day War, I actually I rolled my eyes. I was like, are we like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, what is this movie? You know, because it was just it's an over bloated movie, you know, for for a movie where the main character has 30 lines and she is
00:37:01
Speaker
just barely a concept, you know, in my opinion. Like, I don't know. I kind of walked out of this one just going like.
00:37:10
Speaker
OK, like I was like, that was long. Yeah, it's kind of my first thought. And for a majority of this movie, Anya Taylor Joy is not in it. You know, there's a lot. She's yeah, she's just actually I really liked the child actress. She was great. We was fucking very good. I really I think the acting was awesome in this movie in general. Yeah, honestly, yeah. But everybody, especially the.
00:37:36
Speaker
the original driver. That guy was cool. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The guy who is Mad Max, but not. Yeah, exactly. I think that was the thing, though. I was like, this guy just looks like Mad Max is like like the the stunt double for Mad Max. Oh, it goes into what we were talking about before. I think Steve brought up that Mad Max is like a myth and kind of be anybody or anything. He's just a story. But they kind of
00:38:03
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ruin that with just that little shot of him on the cliff. Well, yeah. Well, that's somewhat true. I did not like that. I was like, we don't. I don't know.
00:38:16
Speaker
Like what I liked. I liked more of this than I dislike. That's the way I agree with you. Like it is. I at the end of the day, I liked the movie. It is not my favorite, but it is definitely somewhere. It is above Thunderdome. Yeah. Like that's pretty much that is not saying a lot. It's it's around with like the original in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a fair assessment. I think I grade this the same as I would grade the original. I just.
00:38:46
Speaker
It's hard. I'm glad they didn't try to recreate Fury Road, too. Like, that's the other thing I'm happy about. Like, I'm glad this is something different and a different perspective on the world. That's I'm OK with that. Yeah, like it's cool that like Gaston and Bullet Town or Bullet Farm. Yeah, both like they get a little bit more fleshing out, which is cool. And you got some rotus from a video game. Yeah.
00:39:15
Speaker
The mad mechanic is in it from the video game. Like that shit I saw, I was like, whoa, holy shit. It's weird that he threw shade at the video game before this movie came out. Whoa, that is really strange to me. It's like everybody I know who's played the game is like, oh, that's awesome.
00:39:32
Speaker
He's like, Oh, it wasn't good. And I couldn't make it better. It's like somebody told you Hideo Kojima like he's an 80 year old man. It's weird that
Comparative Analysis: Fury Road vs. Furiosa
00:39:45
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Kojima is like, he's just the
00:39:48
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This is the go-to name that people didn't recognize. Kojima kind of rubs elbows with directors all the time. I know, but like, that's like, do you really think a Kojima Mad Max game would be anything but stupid? He's the Andy Warhol, I feel, of video game directors. Hold on. All right, walk me through it. I'm not against that idea because I feel like
00:40:14
Speaker
have similar directing styles. Somewhat like I feel like, you know, what's the fuck that death stranding? Like, that's just it's interesting in a way. And it's some interesting concept of gameplay. But I don't I think the world stinks. You know, like if he got a world that wasn't stupid,
00:40:37
Speaker
and was able to make a game in it. Like, I just think it would be good. But I wouldn't poo-poo the original, the actual game that came out either, because that game is probably my favorite movie tie-in game I've ever played. Like, it's brilliant. Yeah. Like, if you if you if this was the game that came out alongside this this movie, I'd be like, wow, this is like one for one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree.
00:41:06
Speaker
I think maybe people had certain expectations for the game, considering the series. But I feel like the game plays like a Mad Max story really well. Yeah. You know, and it and it's fun to car combat. And that game is a blast. It is very good.
00:41:27
Speaker
So well done. It's better than the Arkham City combat, I would say. Better than most Twisted Metal games. Like it's just it's fucking perfect. Yeah. If Twisted Metal were to make a real comeback, like I would want the car combat something closer to that than. Right. Yeah. How it used to be. Like I met like customizing your own car, too, is just a really cool concept in that world. But that being said,
00:41:56
Speaker
my official rating for Furioso would be a good sit. Oh, yeah, that was a good fuck. I can't think so. I think I would put that above a fuck. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I think a good sit is is pretty much I wouldn't mind what a I wouldn't mind watching again. B, I enjoyed it enough of it to work. Yeah, I kind of hope like, you know, because there was talk right there was talk about how like,
00:42:26
Speaker
Mad Max Fury Road itself wasn't exactly a huge hit at the box office. Really? I'll talk about. Yeah, really. It was like middling and it had long legs, but it was never like a week one, you know, explosion mouth. Really? Yeah, that's true. Not which is not doing it for this. But like, still, the point is, is like, you know, maybe like two, three years. You're like, fuck, man. Furious was really good. You know, you know,
00:42:56
Speaker
I even, after watching all the Mad Max movies, I don't hate Thunderdome. Like I really don't. The beginning of Thunderdome is great. It's a really good movie. First half of it's good. Everything in Barter Town is awesome. The children part sucks. The children part kills all the pacing, the momentum, it just dies. And it's a shame because Barter Town is a really cool place. And there's a lot of like fallout shit going on in Barter Town that I really like. What came out first, that or Temple of Doom?
00:43:26
Speaker
Uh, Ooh, I think temple of doom came out first. Cause there is a, there's a weird through line in the middle 1980s. Whereas
Discussing Guy Ritchie's Decline
00:43:38
Speaker
like, all right. And then we save the kids. Oh yeah. That was going on at that point in time. Yeah. And they're always like hapless and in need of a savior figure. And then they come in and it's usually an adult.
00:43:56
Speaker
It's never, you know, it's usually the adult that comes in. It was templadoom in 84 and then Mad Max 3, 85. Okay. That's funny. I think Mad Max looks better. Only a year.
00:44:10
Speaker
afterwards. I don't know. That's me. There's parts. There's parts of Temple of Doom where it looks really shitty. Like nothing so great. He did looks dated. The film grain looks like shit. It's poorly exposed. It's like not visually appealing.
00:44:26
Speaker
It's weird because there's like moments in those movies where I agree. Like I'm like this kind of looks like there's like maybe they were like taking the film. It was like because they were filming in like Tunisia for the murders and stuff like that. So it's like maybe like, you know, trying to like get that film copy like through those deserts and not have it get exposed. Yeah, maybe it was hard. I think there's particular scene I'm talking about is on the bridge where it cuts to Indy's face from the bridge and it's so
00:44:55
Speaker
different looking like the end of the movie. Yeah, towards the end of the movie that the way it's cut like it keeps cutting any close up tires and Ford looks darker. I keep thinking of the scene in the beginning of the movie where they are like the airport and it's that it's that an acroid cameo. And it's like this weird wide shot and it's all black in the background. It feels very unspeelberg. Like I imagine that was like a B team.
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah, he didn't give us all that one. No. And I feel like the beginning of Thunderdome, it looks so cool and it looks crisp and it looks better than most films in the 80s.
00:45:37
Speaker
It's like, it's like, Oh man. All right. Are we doing, we're doing Mad Max three. We're coming right out of road warrior. Like you're pumped. A lot of money too. They got it. Yeah. And then you kind of feel it get pulled away in the middle of the movie. Like you feel like all that stuff is like being ripped out of your face and you're like, damn it. Who rules barter town, Devin?
00:46:12
Speaker
I'll take that one. Lock me up. Good set. What do you guys give it?
00:46:24
Speaker
Yeah, I guess like I'm a little I feel like I'm a little more harsh on it because I wanted it to be so much better than I thought it was. But it's a good movie. It's not that action sequence in the middle, too. It's just it's pure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was his name? The Octo?
00:46:43
Speaker
Octo. Yeah, you lost. Moses Malone. That sounds right. Something like that. It was, it was cool. It was cool. Oh, and piss boy. We didn't even talk about piss boy, Devin's cameo. And he was doing a lot, Devin. He was doing a lot. He poured piss in an engine. I don't think that works. He threw a piss bottle at people. Oh my God.
00:47:07
Speaker
See that stuff, that's why I watch these movies. Those little details. Man, you know, I was a piss boy. I was a pissed boy earlier this week. Hell yeah. I like lost my mind on, I was getting my car worked on and they completely boned me. And I like freaked out on this guy.
00:47:31
Speaker
Oh, you got like, can you explain to me how time works? No, I I went to get a break job and I specifically brought it in. This is like not at all relate to anything. But I he was like, let's schedule an appointment. And I said, OK, we booked the appointment for one. I bring it in at noon even earlier. And I was like, he's like, when do you need it back by? I said, does five sound good? Because that's the end of the work day.
00:48:00
Speaker
And he said, that's perfect. I'll have it to you by five. I call it like four forty because I haven't heard from them. And I was like, hey, just want to check in on the status. And he's like, and like I can tell they panicked and they're like, oh, yeah, it's it's actually, you know, we got it out right now. Right now we're looking at it. And I was like, OK. And I get there and he calls me and he's like, oh, well. No, actually, it's going to take like two hours worth of work.
00:48:28
Speaker
Uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's like, we'll have it to you by end of day, which seven. And I said, you know what? That's a little obnoxious, but like, okay, not a big deal. I'll just go to the gym. I'll pick it up when it's done. Cause it was within walking distance after I Uber there.
00:48:46
Speaker
And then I take like a three minute, I take like a five minute walk to the gym and I'm right outside. He calls me. He's like, actually there's this hose that we need. It's not gonna be until tomorrow. And I like completely lost my mind on this guy. I was like, do you not understand how time works? I was like, I brought it in at what time? I made him repeat it to me. I was like, what time? I was like, what time did I bring it in? Noon? I was like, yeah. And I was like, and it's, what time is it now? Six.
00:49:15
Speaker
So, yeah, what the fuck? And then I just lit this dude up. I'm outside of a Planet Fitness borderline screaming at a man. So I don't even know where I was going with that. I was just mad. Yeah, you talked about piss boy. So essentially what happened is they sat with their car all day and then they opened it up and went, oh, we need a fuck. This is actually going to take work. You need a lot of piss for this. So yeah, we're going to need more piss. Yeah.
00:49:43
Speaker
Your time to pee in bottles. I was a, I was a little fucking maniac this weekend. I was just yelling at everybody. I don't think I'll need a piss boy in my car. I got it. I got it all checked up and I did it. That's good. I did take five where you sit in the car, you get your oil change while you're sitting in the car, you get your, your coolant change, you get your filters changed. You sit in the car the whole time, watching them do everything like I usually do. Yeah.
Nostalgia in TV Character Development
00:50:11
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My keen eye.
00:50:13
Speaker
I think it's sure they don't put M&Ms in my engine. Hey, what are you doing? Get those M&Ms out of there! What are you doing over there? I said no M&Ms! Oh, sorry, sir. But yeah, so you saw that. I saw Uncut Gems last week.
00:50:32
Speaker
That wasn't watched it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't the first time I used to win in there. And, uh, oh, that movie's so much better than not to be that good time. Uncut gems are both really great. I still need to see good time. You should. You should. It is a hell of a movie and it's funny, funny as fuck. I left.
00:51:00
Speaker
So hard. I don't know if it's as like stomach churning is only uncut gems, but it's pretty stomach churning. Well, the best part is when you see uncut gems after seeing it already, you could very much tell who hasn't seen that movie for. Yeah, because they're like they're like writhing in pain. Jenny was like rolling rolling in the chair like, oh, my God. And then like the person next to her was freaking out. And I was like, yeah, this is all Sam Sam couldn't even finish it. She's like, I can't watch this anymore.
00:51:31
Speaker
I love those movies, man. Yeah, I was like, I was like, I'm having a hell of a time. I'm like, go ahead. I'll see you in bed later. And I finished the movie. I was like, oh, my God, this movie is crazy. You got the trifecta at the end. I watched. Oh, and then I was telling I was telling the boys earlier. I said I went on a bit of a spree and I watched. I got a hold of a bunch of movies that had come out earlier this year that I just was unable to see.
00:52:00
Speaker
in the theaters for whatever reason, just been busy with life stuff. So I'm working down this list, but I saw Godzilla, Frost Kong, The Forgotten Empire, whatever you want to call it. That movie is a lot of fun. That movie is way more fun than I was ever expecting it to be.
00:52:19
Speaker
Um, you didn't even expect it to be fun. Like, I don't, cause like, I think I just watched minus one and I was like, I don't even want to hear about two completely different types of movies. Right. But it was like, I was like, okay, the other one was fun too. But like, how fun is it? And it's just like, imagine if just like God's Batman and King Kong Superman. Adam Wingard is not.
00:52:46
Speaker
He's not coming back for the next one. Yeah. Oh, I hope there's probably going to get they're probably going to get the minus one guy to do it. Maybe they're going to give him a million dollars. No fucking way. I would. That'd be the best. I would kill time.
00:53:02
Speaker
I mean that if it was like part of the monster verse still and they got fucking Yamazaki to do it, like that would kill. Amen. It's so mad. Oh, does it get off their fucking ass and sign this guy up for a sequel? You know what? Good.
00:53:17
Speaker
Or if if Disney doesn't try to get them for for Star Wars because that that's what because they're being real people are saying to Godzilla Toho. And I'm like, come on, they're always well, it's like they're kind of I know. It's the only thing they have, Chris. That's all they got. This is the best thing that they did. Godzilla related. But they felt like now, but we were we were speculating before, like the fact that the movie only costs 10 million dollars to make is probably the worst possible thing.
00:53:47
Speaker
for that for the future of the franchise. Now, they're just going to they're going to want to. Oh, they're going to want to. You're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, it's not going to. If you bring back the right guy, then it's going to look good still. That's my problem. Like bring back the right guy. Or is he going to go crazy like the raid, like the raid guy? Yeah. I mean,
00:54:10
Speaker
Ray to wasn't that wasn't a bad movie, but like it doesn't even compare to the first one and it's because they gave him a huge budget and he felt like he was gonna he felt like he was gonna die if he if he didn't fucking You know take advantage of every dollar that they gave him. That's that's a it's a rare occurrence I feel like you give a good director more money. They're gonna make a better movie. I'm a firm believer of that and Whoever takes this guy on he's gonna make a good movie
00:54:38
Speaker
Yeah. Regardless, like he's a great director. Well, Godzilla, something that's a 50 year old 60, 70 year old problem and made something original and different and incredible. Like he's good for anything. Well, there's a blade to suplex in this movie. So, you know, somebody does it off a pyramid. So cool. I'm just going to say how about how about when King Kong was was using Baby Kong as a way.
00:55:08
Speaker
Yeah, I just want to see that. I just want to see that. You know what's crazy is like this fire. The storytelling is so good with the con segments just by inference. Right. It's just like through context clues and just emotions like we can figure it out and. Nobody else here saw the play in the apes movie, right? Not the new one. Yeah. It was just like this is this the villain in all that. I was like, this is so much better than the plate of the apes villain.
00:55:38
Speaker
Like this guy is way worse. He's so much more emotive and, you know, X, Y and Z, even though technically he wasn't like on a technical scale because he, you know, all that stuff. But I was just like, yeah, man, like I definitely understand everything that's happening here and the weird subtext and all that. And it was just like a lot of fun. The other movie that I saw that was as fun as Godzilla Cross Kong was, this was like depressing.
00:56:06
Speaker
because I was just personally for me, I was I used to be a really big guy, Richie fan, like every white kid in the mid 2000s. And this guy just like he's like lost it. Whatever it was that made him. You have no idea, man. I trust me. I I had an equivalent story to this. Yeah. I watched The Gentleman.
00:56:31
Speaker
The Ministry of a gentlemanly warfare whatever. Oh, no, no. Oh, this was a movie he made before that with Charlie Hunnam and Colin Farrell. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:46
Speaker
Good fucking god, that movie is awful. It's atrociously boring. It is a dumb plot. It's way too much exposition. Just people talking about what's going on is a really bad movie. Yeah, I don't know what happened to this guy. I don't either, man. I don't know. It's not.
00:57:08
Speaker
It's not bad, right? Like, I don't think it's terrible. It's just like, I don't know that what made him what made that director unique and interesting. He is just like completely like walked away from.
00:57:24
Speaker
or moved away from it. And that like, just bums me out. Not too far up his butt with the dialogue. Like his movies are so dialogue heavy.
Exploration of Horror and Game Trends
00:57:32
Speaker
At least the gentleman was. Yeah. Like what just people saying really cliche, stupid, what sounds clever lines. Like he's he's lost his touch when it comes to writing quotable lines like he used to. Or he's just hasn't aged like he's dated.
00:57:51
Speaker
Like it's still he's still writing the same shit that he was writing in the early 2000s. And that's not going to fly. You know, nowadays. Yeah. It was it was a movie. It just kind of made me just could be like, yeah, I'm just watching. Events play out in in potentially the least interesting way possible. He actually in the gentleman managed
00:58:18
Speaker
He does this, Matthew McConaughey can either be infuriatingly fake or incredible. And it really depends on the director. And in this movie, it was infuriatingly fake, not genuine, cannot buy him as a drug lord at all. I can't do it. In England, he has an American accent. And it's a stupid plot.
00:58:47
Speaker
And I just I'm so surprised that you're right. That guy, Richie, made this thought this was a good idea and made it. Yeah. Like, I don't know. He just kind of seems like a director for hire now, which kind of bums me out because I. I think as soon as he did that Robin Hood movie, he was like, yeah, I really. I'm good. Like, that's it. I think he lost. Yeah. Like his tools aren't aren't as sharp as the. Yeah. You know.
00:59:15
Speaker
But I also watched some things on Netflix. I watched Baby Reindeer and Tires. Well, you talked about Baby Reindeer last week or last time, didn't you? Yeah, I think I did. Yeah, I guess it's still there. That movie that shows very watchable, but I boy, oh boy, I hate it every minute of that.
00:59:37
Speaker
Say this you said the same exact thing two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it still stands. My opinion has not changed and tires is just Whatever. I just kind of had it on and it was a okay comedy I I watched some TV as well. I started watching the Chucky show and
00:59:59
Speaker
Man three or four episodes of season one and I was into it I'll tell you this it's it's like a cheaper version of stranger things but with I think better gay representation
01:00:22
Speaker
Like not as dumb as, you know, that I did not know about the Chucky franchise, but the Chucky franchise has never left the hands outside of the one from 2019, the Mark Hamill one. Yeah. Yeah. But the Chucky franchise has been kind of just like a family run series like our man, Sini direct. Yeah. And he directed every single movie.
01:00:48
Speaker
in the Chucky franchise. And I believe Howard Mancini is a member of the LGBTQ. Yes. Yeah. Yes, he is. I've heard the representation in that show is actually kind of fantastic. It's great. It's it's realistic and can be a little corny at times, but I feel like that's fine for like the teen drama shit that's going on. I like the main character. He's the little little kid from the Lego movie.
01:01:18
Speaker
Oh, that's fun. Yeah. And he's good. He's fine. Chucky is amazing. And that's still Brad Dureff. Brad Dureff. And well, this is the interesting part. So I got to, I think it was episode seven in the first season and
01:01:40
Speaker
Episode seven, as I like to call it, I think is the turning point of the show, where you either are totally in or you are, you're going to be gone. Like it's, this is going to turn you off completely because it starts introducing stuff from the later Chucky movies. Okay. Oh, like the weird. Yeah. It gets a little convoluted, a little like, Oh, Chucky split his himself into shards.
01:02:08
Speaker
So he's occupying multiple things at once, including a woman who is played by Brad Dureff's daughter in real life, Fiona Dureff. And they introduce the bride of Chucky in the first season, too. Like, hey, they're throwing everything out there. Oh, that's fun. In the first season. Because I kind of think they thought they were going to get canceled.
01:02:37
Speaker
I haven't finished it. I watched, I think, eight episodes of the first season. What's it on? Peacock. Okay. I think. It's not Peacock, it's Paramount+. Yeah, and they kind of make Chucky more of, I'd say more in the vein of Freddy in this one. He's more funny and he kind of puts on a show and it's just, it's fun to watch. And there are some
01:03:07
Speaker
real shithead teenagers in this one. Just like Stranger Things. I like the idea where it's like, what if we did Stranger Things, but instead of 11, they got chucky? Yeah, basically. That's fun. That's a fun concept. That's basically it. And yeah, it works. Like Stranger Things works. It's a formula that I think works. There's a few tropes in most TV shows and movies that I absolutely love.
01:03:36
Speaker
The one one of them being the bully turning into the friend. I just said it's a good trope. It's a fucking awesome trope, man. And Joss Whedon did it really well. Stranger Things did it really well with with Steve. Yeah, Steve. This show does it really well as well. And I'm just always attracted to that.
01:04:00
Speaker
I'm always tracked to the turn, like when it happens, does it make sense? You don't know, cause you can't bank on that. You can't, but if they're done, if it's done right, it really makes a character better, makes them dimensional and makes them more realistic. You know, cause sometimes I feel like bullies in most media are two dimensional. So when you let them, you know, be vulnerable, that's,
01:04:26
Speaker
Great. That's really good character development. Stranger Things did that multiple times. It's like they did it with Steve and like while what the hell is his name? The blonde. Oh, Billy. While Billy was like definitely like way worse and like not as redeemable.
01:04:44
Speaker
Uh, they did, they did give some like pretty good, like there's some simple dimensionality. Yeah. There's sympathy for Billy. Like when you go into like that flashback and it was that last season, season four, where they go into like the beach and we kind of see Billy as a child. That was, uh, uh, max max. Yeah, that was like max jump into, you know, even in the third season, they're talking about how he was abused by his stepfather. Yeah. And like, there's, there's cause for his.
01:05:12
Speaker
awfulness right it's not just like a two-dimensional bully but it's fun because it's like normally we're used to like the trope where it's like here's an asshole he gets his comeuppance well now that's the interesting part of it right because
01:05:27
Speaker
I guess this also leads into a Stranger Things conversation as well. Right. Because how do you how do you do that with Vecna? You can't. Sometimes you just need a villain, you know. Right. I guess what like that's the difference between a bully and like the antagonist. Is that less interesting?
01:05:49
Speaker
Right, because Billy's think so because it's like, I don't know. Well, they did. Well, they did. They did the opposite with Vecna because, you know, the way they told Vecna story was kind of in reverse. So it was like a flip where it's like we thought that character was well in the flashbacks, we thought that character was a friend. Yeah. And they ended up being Vecna.
01:06:14
Speaker
I mean, he was always psychotic, though, even as a kid, animals. Right. It's weird because it's like they are doing connecting points where it's like, here's a creep as a child, but we don't know that that creep child is the same orderly. Sure, sure, sure. But I mean, at the end of the day, that's what he is. And I don't know. I think I think Billy
01:06:36
Speaker
And to a lesser sense, Steve, they had the interesting changeover. Right. And I don't think you're not going to get that same level with that. No, that's it's not going to be as I don't think it's going to be as fulfilling as a character. I still think the way they did Steve was probably my favorite because a lot of his actions, you know, were justified. Sometimes they were a little too over the top, but he's a kid. Yeah, he's a kid like him breaking Jonathan's camera.
01:07:02
Speaker
where it's like a high school kid where it's like, sure, he's not the main character that we were giving the point of view often of. But like if you think of it from his perspective, it's like here's a guy who was just creeping on their like little party like that they were at specifically. God, what's your name? Name pictures of his name. Yeah, this girl. Yeah.
01:07:24
Speaker
You know, the cool thing too is like that was, I don't wanna say it was like a last second, but they, I think very late in that season decided to like,
01:07:34
Speaker
keeps the, because the whole point was like, he was either going to run or get killed. Oh man. And then they were like, they changed it. And they're like, you know what? Like this character, there's something to this guy. Like Jesse from Breaking Bad. Yeah. Yeah. I think it kind of was. They just liked him on set, I bet. It's just, it's probably the same thing they did with Jack from Lost. We're like, uh, yeah. Although I think Jack should have stayed dead.
01:07:59
Speaker
Yeah. Jack died to the monster, like hidden in the pilot. That would have been. That would have been the net positive, I think. It would have been a punch in the face, too. You wouldn't be like, fuck me. Jesus Christ. Oh, man. That's something, man. Yeah, that would have hit even harder, I think.
01:08:20
Speaker
But like, if I remember correctly, like he runs out to the car and you're like, Oh, he's going to drive away. And then he gets his bat and he comes back in, wails on the, that's your character turn, right? That's your, that's the moment. But like, there's moments in that where it's like, he does that thing where he writes, Nancy's a slut on the movie marquee. But then you see him taking it down and you're like, all right, you know, there's like some heart and soul and like,
01:08:45
Speaker
It's, you see those like failures in a person that we all kind of relate with where we're like our emotions to get over ourselves and like, you know, we kind of resent it and we want to fix it. So, and ultimately it's all thumbs up because they're fighting a creature of supernatural origin that's beyond their beef.
01:09:05
Speaker
That's really what it all ends up being. That's Washman. That's just the original Washman plot. They've got a beef and then, you know, let's blame it on aliens. Let's blame it on aliens. Sucky in this. It's no different. He's the guy, the man that brings them all together.
01:09:23
Speaker
And yeah, I really, I do like the Chucky show. I think it took a goofy turn, admittedly, but I'm all about it because I like Chucky movies. I gotta admit, I don't hate them. Chucky is a fun one. I think Chucky is so...
01:09:39
Speaker
Freddy is number one. I've always been a Freddy guy. Nightmare on Elm Street movies are fun. Chucky. Chucky's up there. Chucky's fun. Yeah. Chucky makes it fun. I like that the original movies are kind of steeped in like a serious nature and then they get silly. Yes. Like Freddy. Yes. And I wish I could put Jason on that same pillar, but Jason's never been there. Jason's always been kind of like the kills are wild sometimes.
01:10:09
Speaker
But, you know what? He'll be redeemed.
01:10:12
Speaker
in Warner Brothers fighter game. Multi-versus. Multi-versus. Can you imagine the, is he coming in? Oh, yeah. He's already in. Oh, Jason, Jason. I mean, I mean, Freddy. Oh, Freddy would be wild. Wait, did you see that? His like up smash is him taking the bed. The moves, that's really good. Yeah. I was like, okay.
01:10:41
Speaker
Why not guys so weird to be in the same world as like, I don't know. What are they? Another thing too. It was like multiverses and God, he's in something else. He, I think they said he's coming to Fortnite. Hold on.
01:10:58
Speaker
Jason Voorhees Fortnite. Why is he getting a blow up? Why? Because they announced because they announced the Jason universe because they finally fucking squash their legal beef. Oh, really? Yeah. So everybody's the Jason universe teasing Fortnite. They're in multiverses. So I would expect to see Jason all over the place from very soon. Speaking of which, did you play?
01:11:22
Speaker
Killer clowns from outer space. I haven't. I've been watching it. I've been watching a few people playing it. It looks interesting. You know, I don't know. I honestly I don't know because it definitely looks like one of those games where it might be one of the like flavors of like the month like Texas Chainsaw. Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:42
Speaker
I want to see if it has any legs before I kind of jump into it because I've been for your wasted time. I got burned on Texas Chainsaw. I got burned on the evil that I really like, but I got burned on it. Cool. That's a shame. Yeah. But Killer Clans is interesting because that's like it's the same formula, right?
Game Licensing and Creative Potential
01:12:01
Speaker
Evil Dad had the really interesting minion thing. Yeah. And that was like different. That was different in the sense where it wasn't just like, come on, you know, you're going to
01:12:11
Speaker
I love the raining cam too, and I'm moving around the map. Like all that shit's, that worked. That's just not, there's only room and so much room in people's hearts, Steve. Yeah. I feel like if you tie yourself to a license, one license, it gets stale at some point for like the masses. Cause there's like, there's only so much you can do with killer clowns. Like you say that now.
01:12:37
Speaker
Candy. Yeah. There's something. There's something. I don't know. There's little there's little flowers that shoot acid. If they get the if they get freaked sounds like I'm trying to think other things that the people who made the puppet to get some toxic avenger like you can do. I've heard you could definitely do a trauma verse game and play that you do. Toxie rotten tomatoes or a movie that's going to a new remake. Yeah.
01:13:05
Speaker
Um, you're dealing with Romeo and Juliet. When is that coming out, Devin? Uh, the Tromi and Juliet? Uh, no. Toxic Avenger remake. I don't know, actually. Uh, that's a good question. I wonder why. Toxic Avenger. Well, while I'm looking this up, Chris, uh,
Final Fantasy: Characters and Gameplay
01:13:29
Speaker
In terms of video games, I know I've been plugging away some old garbage nonsense, but I want to hear where you're at with Final Fantasy stuff, because you said you have some opinions. I have plenty of opinions, and I'm going to go with the good first. Okay. And the number one shiny example of greatness that this game can deliver would be a character by the name of Kid G. Kid G, dude. Kid G. Thank you. Thank you very much.
01:13:58
Speaker
Kid G speaks like a used car salesman, but he's a tiny goblin that has boxing gloves on his hands. And he wears a skull cap and a cool t-shirt. He looks like he was designed by somebody in the 90s. He doesn't fit in with any other thing ever. Total tonal shift when he shows up. Yeah. The strangest way of finding him in a cactus reactor
01:14:26
Speaker
It's all of this is nonsense. And it works really well. That's that's a big plus in my book. I'm trying to think of other. That's it. That's it. I mean, listen, buddy, gold saucer was fun. I really enjoyed that. But it is a lot of mini games who do who
01:14:53
Speaker
Tried to go on a date with you. I went on a date with Tifa. Oh, okay. Always been. Okay. It's day one. And you know what? I don't care if Yuffie and Kate fucking Sith don't like me. They could suck my dick.
01:15:11
Speaker
Okay, they could suck my fucking day out for all I care. Yuffie's a bitch. Whoa, whoa. I don't think I can go sign on that. Fucking asshole. Why is she an asshole? She's always fucking insulting Cloud. Like everybody else does it. They know him. They don't know for a bit. They can do it. She's just throwing shit out and I'm like, fuck you, bitch. You're new. But is she, but she's like top tier.
01:15:36
Speaker
Is she on your squad, though? I don't know. No, dude, she's so good. I'll T verif, baby. Oh, my goodness. I'll be a very fucking and I've been. Other than the throttle, the final fantasy. Three pull that boat, bitch. So could all my notes. So so you're not using Barrett to just like immediately fly up and get no. Oh, yeah. OK. All right. I got an error back and back in the back.
01:16:03
Speaker
with a radiant ward up, throwing out fucking bombs at everything. I got grab up front, hitting like a goddamn tank. I got, I got Tifa raising stagger. That's what she's, that's what she does. Okay. I got all my bases covered. I got nothing else. So, okay. Wait. So you're, you did the golden saucer and now you're in the, in the desert area. Yes. What is that? Yeah, I don't know.
01:16:33
Speaker
can't remember. I don't even know what it is. So you haven't gotten a gun gaga yet. I haven't gotten a good guy. But do you have the big.
01:16:43
Speaker
little tank transporter thing. Yes, I have my my little bug. Okay, okay. So like, you're just running around doing kid G side quest. I'm doing all my side quests in that region. I want to finish it the coral now coral. Yeah. Okay, so I will always do all the region shit. I will always do all of it. That's yeah. I know. That's fair. And frankly,
01:17:04
Speaker
The game's not exactly like a smooth ride. So like you kind of, I feel like you almost have to like, unless you want to find yourself in a real hole. Yeah, I know leveling up. It's really important because I got into one little scrape, uh, fighting was like, uh, what is it?
01:17:23
Speaker
What do they call it? Were you like clear out? Oh, you're saying like the mythical beast or something like that. It's like the sandworm. And he and he kept swallowing my characters over and over again. Yeah. Because I wasn't killing him quick enough. Yeah. So I had to level up that went back, did that nailed it. That was the there was enemy intel enemy intel. Right. I haven't really had much of an issue outside of that.
01:17:50
Speaker
because I've been leveling up and doing all the shit that I have to do. So I think the game itself has been kind of cake, really. I haven't really. That's why I've been sticking with Tifa, Aerith, and Cloud, because the game is just I'm nuking everything. I'm nuking everything. And it's Tifa. All right. Not Tifa. Yuffie has. I know.
01:18:11
Speaker
Yeah, you know, she's got some room clears. She's got her her attack can change elements. It's very useful and practical. But I never like if if they never failed the group, they haven't failed you yet. Oh, like, why would I change? Why would I fix what isn't broken? All right. That's fair. So, uh, OK, so.
01:18:37
Speaker
I just beat the King, uh, King something King. He's a weird lizard man that walks around with King Morgan. No, he's not a lizard. A weird lizard man walks around with a lantern getting one shot. Yeah. Oh, the, uh, Tom Berry King Tom Berry.
01:18:59
Speaker
Oh, wait, did you get did you get the good crown or did you get the dirty crown? You have to go on. OK, I just do it twice. I stole it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was constantly pressured. I got the good one. Yeah. So just did that. I am almost completed every region objective. And now I'm going to go on to the main quest to finish it. Now, what happened was
Indie Game Debate: Dave the Diver
01:19:28
Speaker
I did all I did all this a week ago. OK. And I was in a boss fight specifically that worm. Yeah. Accidentally hit reload from last checkpoint. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. I lost everything. Everything. All the progress that I made in that region was gone.
01:19:48
Speaker
No, see that. Yeah, that would be enough for me to. How does that with the game? I don't know how that happens. Because I didn't auto save doesn't auto save. So I hit the truck. I hit the thing like even other quests. Yes. I retry from that. Wow. Wow. I didn't realize that. At least you at least you expect that in Dark Souls. That's true. I like.
01:20:14
Speaker
A game like Final Fantasy 7, that feels real bad. Those games prepared me for it because I just was like, all right, I'm just going to take a break. I'm going to take a break. I'm not going to take a break. I'm going to not play this game anymore. So you got to do all the great ways. So do you get to do the kid G stuff again, though? I had to do all the kid G stuff again. You got to do it. You didn't have to. Yeah, I got to. There's a tree. That guy's great privilege. He sounds like a used car salesman.
01:20:50
Speaker
I was switching back and forth between this and Dave the Diver and Dave the Diver.
01:20:57
Speaker
So fucking great. I just bought it. Yeah, yeah, we just bought it. We just bought it. Chris sold it to you guys. It was on sale on a buy. It was. Yeah, it was in my DLC just dropped within the game. No, like I've had it and I've been. I don't know. There was a little bit of there was a little bit of bad beef on that game, though. The fact that people were nominating it for best in the game. Yeah.
01:21:25
Speaker
I like it's like a multi-million dollar like Chinese company that published it. It was like if EA made a game. They're like, what an indie game by EA. You're like, OK, sure. I will tell you this. It's a great game. It's a lot of fun. It's it starts. It has this real interesting kind of like. It's a. Objective creep.
01:21:51
Speaker
Like the game, you have more shit to do as the game goes on, starts to open up more and more and more and more. And that's cool because I feel like when game, some games, they throw everything at you at once and you're just spinning plates. This one is like slowly.
01:22:06
Speaker
you know, dropping in a few. Oh, now you get to run a restaurant and now you get to breed fish that you catch. You catch eggs. It's like a sushi restaurant, right? Yeah, you're running a sushi restaurant. You're getting ingredients by diving into the ocean and spearing fish. I think I just got off a dredge. So I think I think that's why I was like, Dave, the diver has dredge DLC. No, no, it's like I get that. It was just like I needed like
01:22:37
Speaker
I was like, I don't know if I want to play like another like small game where you're just dealing with the water. You must step away from the ocean. I need it. I need to play the Witcher three again. This isn't as dark. I wanted to ask you about.
Returning to Familiar Games
01:22:49
Speaker
All right. Well, yeah, let's you what you played the Witcher three. How many times? I don't know. This is like my fourth.
01:22:55
Speaker
3rd or 4th go through are you are you doing like new game plus or is this like yeah, so Honestly, it's I never played the the ps5 upgrade, you know And it resets all my trophies. So I was like or not reset I don't know. I was like, you know, let me just like fucking
01:23:15
Speaker
go through it and do some different, make some different decisions, you know? And, uh, let me go take back some things that I did. Yeah. Take a bath. Maybe, maybe bang Yennefer instead of Tris, you know, is this because you saw the pictures of, um, what's his face Hemsworth as the new, I don't think so. Honestly, it was, it's just, I've been in this weird spot, like after rebirth, which was very much like a,
01:23:42
Speaker
It's a beast of a game, you know, as Chris is, you know, finding and it just kind of gets more dense. Then I went back and I and I started like replaying on hard mode. And I was just like, I need a I need a break. And just nothing was really grabbing me because it was going to be Dragon's Dog. But I think John basically.
01:24:04
Speaker
Yeah, don't scare me off of it a little bit. It was fun. Like, that's fine. You know, but I was just like, you know, let me just play something safe. So I know I'm just going to like. Yeah. And you didn't you don't have to spend money on basically. Yeah. And I was kind of like, you know, if I if I get bored of it, I was like, I'll just like replay.
01:24:24
Speaker
Ragnarok or I'll replay this or that, like some other game that I've, I've beaten, but I just want to just like enjoy for a few hours a night. You want a burger? Yeah. I just want some burgers, dude. I kind of did that with the fallout for PS5 update. Yeah. You know, just downloaded it recently. I'm like playing a little bit of it. I'm like, Oh, I can put on the mods. I'm basically playing with cheats. Yeah. And you can just kind of get back to it and like let it go because you're
01:24:52
Speaker
You'll know you're not going to get lost in that game, right? You know, you're such a pro at it. So I don't know if there's no real reason. I think I'm just more or less waiting for the space marine to come out, which is like in September, September. Yeah, like months to go before there's like the next game. I feel like I have to play.
Elden Ring Exploration and Strategies
01:25:13
Speaker
So I'm just in that weird spot where we got turd tree in the back. Yeah. Yeah. You guys got you guys got our tree out of the third man. Is that next week? Yeah.
01:25:23
Speaker
No, it's the end. That's the end of. Yeah. I've been like. I've been grinding. Yeah, I've seen. You just be commander now, right? You know. Yeah, I'm like doing things in a weird order. So I beat right. I beat Commander William T. Reichard today. Got to watch Tanith eat his
01:25:46
Speaker
Brains again, which is cool, which is awesome. Which is awesome. It's what she's known I heard I heard she's just stays there Somebody said that you could do a side quest with patches where he tells you to give something to her And then she just like fucking spits on it and just continues. He's gonna become a god, too Yeah, I mean, yeah people maybe are thinking that that might have something to do with the net with the DLC So like I'm so Chris I want to get your opinion because like I'm just
01:26:16
Speaker
fucking zoom, zoom driving my Mazda Miata all over the lands between right now. No, no resistance. No resistance. I mean, no. Yeah. I mean, I'm dying. Like, wait, wait, sorry. Real quick. Is this new game plus or this is you started? I start front. No. I tried playing new game plus the first time around and I hated it because like there's no. Yeah. Like I think you understand what I what I mean, though, Chris, like there's no direction. I like it kind of like.
01:26:46
Speaker
highlighted the things about the game that aren't pure open world and that makes it feel bad to play because I don't like the speed run shit like yeah, like Yeah, Tim made up a good point He said you usually just do new game plus to just like roll through all the bosses again So yeah, like a victory lap because they give you the map and like the first thing I did was like, oh, let me go fuck and see Radon Let me see how I fare against him now
01:27:13
Speaker
And I went straight to that, because I knew exactly where it was. And the map is all unlocked. And then fucking Redon Fest didn't start yet. So like, I was like, oh, this fucking sucks. Yeah, so I was like, I don't know. So that kind of like killed the game, like new game plus for me. And then so I was like, you know, you couldn't put Redon in the first. Well, no. Yeah. And like so like the whole thing, though, Devin is like. Yes, it's it's open world, but it's not like
01:27:43
Speaker
like Red Dead or Grand Theft Auto where you can just like fucking do whatever you want. Like, you still have to like hit, you still have to like hit all the NPCs in the certain orders to get the, to get the, to trigger the quest lines and stuff. That's true. In certain, in certain orders. Like you can't just like go wherever you want. I mean, you can, but like, you know, you're not going to progress through the game unless you do the things that you need to do in certain order. And that's, that's where the beauty of the, of a new game, a fresh game is like, that's why
01:28:14
Speaker
I think the game is just meant to be. You play it fresh because now I'm like, yeah, because like the direction is you don't have this this map fragment unlocked. So I got to go get that map fragment. And then I run into random things along the way, things that I remember from before. And then in my case now, I'm running to whole fucking areas where I didn't even see the first time. And it's like it's like playing the game all over again. So like it's it's really it's really
01:28:42
Speaker
an amazing experience again. Like I said, this is the first time you ever went to the darker depths, right? Yeah, I was like, what the fuck is this place? I was like, this is and it's like a whole fucking thing. It's kind of terrifying, isn't it? It's it's fucking horrifying. Yeah. And then like the thing is like, yeah, because you you hop in the coffin and then you wake up and you're in fucking.
01:29:01
Speaker
Pure right, but yeah, you're a fucking deathland. Yeah, so like what happened there was I was like I'm here So I looked it up online. I was like, oh shit. I didn't do fees quest. I was too afraid to hug feel in the beginning So I was like and they're like oh to get to the boss part of this area like yeah feels close I was like, you know, fuck it. I'm gonna do it. Did you fight it is awesome for the next? Yeah, dude
01:29:25
Speaker
It was so hectic, but I bodied his ass like I know that fight is if I was awesome is yeah, it was awesome like The other thing to my Mazda Miata is mimicked here because I got it I got it like earlier than I did the first time around and I leveled it up all the way and I'm using moon veil which is I guess is OP because like it feels OP But like that like
01:29:53
Speaker
10 years ago. They nerfed it, but like it's still good. I think they nerfed what the recovery on it or something. Yeah. But like if you have weapons in that game and I could think of that, you can't imagine it in Witcher 3 when you're leveled up girl all the way and you have a twin girl brother that has all everything. Right. Yeah. And he does everything you do. And like he actually is fatter and last longer than you two. So like that's kind of where I am now. So like
01:30:23
Speaker
Yeah, I'm still struggling like.
01:30:25
Speaker
The other night I got like, I don't know if you were seeing the, the discord, but like I got spicy peanuts. I got Coke zero. I was like, I'm like tonight, tonight's the night I'm going to fight Redan and I'm going to be here all night. It's going to be awesome. Cause it was, that was what it was like for I fucking, I fucking one shot. I beat him and it kind of, it kind of felt bad. I know. But, but was also awesome. I don't think he's, he's, he's never been where he was. Well, yeah, yeah. That's the thing. And also I already know all the tricks. So like,
01:30:55
Speaker
So there's that but then my long night with like this is where it's Yeah, my long night with Radon that was cut short by like four hours that I was expecting to be to be there for Was replaced because I was like, oh man, that sucks. I fucking beat him too early. I was all right Well, let me go fucking like activate his room. So I end up in the fucking Caleb. I
01:31:22
Speaker
Tower So that so so fighting the god the godskin Apostle at the bottom of that became like that took me like 55 tries. I was like, all right. I was this game spots. Did you sleep pots? Fuck no, dude. I would use moon veil I just I was like because that's the other thing too. I don't want to do any gimmicks I just want to like test the build against the bosses and see how well it does. I
01:31:45
Speaker
That's only one godskin, right? No, no, it's not the two and five. Okay, that's right Yeah, that's big like so I got a fight back that later so like yeah, so it was actually kind of cool cuz I was like I was disappointed but then I
01:32:01
Speaker
Like it brought me back. The lead up to that God's going to possible is fucking hard. Like every enemy is. Yeah. Yeah. Every enemy has a truck in there. You have to like do the puzzle to get down to get to the bottom. And then like, yeah, like there's three there's three random enemies you run into. They're just fucking killing you strong the night.
01:32:21
Speaker
That's it. Yeah, so like that's like that's the meat of the game is like it's not like yeah Like God Rick is cool. The first is hard the first time I buy fuck, you know and Morgan like those guys are really tough the first time They're not that tough this time. It's kind of it's kind of cool to know to realize that you did
01:33:01
Speaker
get good at the
01:33:04
Speaker
three ads come at me, I could die. I could die. And it's happened a few times. There's outside of Dark Souls three, the boss fights. There's a few hard ones as the series progresses, but most of them are pretty doable because you've been leveling up by getting to the boss because it's hard. Yeah. So yeah, I'm like already level one hundred and something. So like I'm going to like I need to get your opinion. Like so the DLC starts in in after Mogwin.
01:33:34
Speaker
You got to beat mode, baby. Yeah, so. You want to stop after that? Yeah, I did. I did. Yeah. Yeah. So because because that's the thing, like I know I shouldn't burn the tree before. Before the DLC, because that was just the whole world, right? That's it. But like the Hallig tree, like should I should I stay away from millennia for now or should I go after?
01:34:00
Speaker
I know, but that's the thing, right, isn't it? Because it because that's what the DLC ties into her. Well, that's why that's why some people are like they might they're thinking about just saving it on the hallatory just in case it locks you out of something. Oh, interesting. That's and that's like and that's kind of like the weird stuff with from software like they're not going to tell you.
01:34:20
Speaker
And like and I respect that that they're not going to just tell you what what to do. Definitely. You have to be mode first, though. That's yeah. I like I'm going to I'm getting to that point. I'm like I'm running through everybody. I beat I just beat I beat Morgan the other day. You can do you can do just about everything outside of you could kill the giant. I don't know if you just don't just don't jump. Just don't burn. Yeah. Just don't burn. Just don't burn after.
01:34:47
Speaker
Yeah, don't have a burger. So I might just stay. I might just stay away. But I do want. Yeah, because that's the thing. I want all the stuff, too. And some of the stuff like the bell bearings and stuff like I don't know if you can get all of them unless you unless you break the world in the game. Well, you don't like just don't go to the boss fight. Yeah, just stay where you can go to the howling tree. Just don't because that's the yeah, because that's the other thing is like I'm running through it and like
01:35:17
Speaker
I don't want to get to a point where I make a mistake because I already made a fatal mistake. I wanted to get the magical scorpion charm. Oh, but I but I didn't talk to cell of this before I gave Ronnie the finger slayer. So I mean, it's whatever. You guys are just speaking in tongues at this point. You know, I'm going to say I'm going to stand by. I think that if you if if you like gave if you clicked with the game like
01:35:46
Speaker
a little bit later, like you probably would be really into this game. Yeah, no, it's like, that's the thing that always like irritates me. So like, I should really like I should have liked this game. I don't understand why I don't. It is just like I'm going like I'm going through this game again and I'm just like
01:36:06
Speaker
Like from software could have charged $200 for this game. And like, yeah, people would cry about it. But then like after playing ball thing, then that some people might be like, Oh, you know what? I get it. Because like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I can't believe this game was only $60. Like there's so much fucking shit in the game. I know. It's huge, man. Like it's insane. Like there's so much. It's so rich with like the eraser CEO, dude. Dude, I don't. Here's the load down. And I have to say that Elvin Ring is full, but it's not like
01:36:36
Speaker
I don't have to. It's not like grind. It's not a venture. And I'm fine. It's not. It's not doing sit ups on the beach. Yeah. A little bit more substantial. I don't know. I'm telling you, man, I don't know if you're going to do New Game Plus for the DLC or a fresh game, but like playing the game fresh is like has been like I mean, I beat New Game Plus, but it wasn't.
01:37:06
Speaker
It's pretty trivial because it's not fulfilling. It's not fulfilling. It's yeah. I mean, that's if you if you're like a min max or and you just want to like optimize your build. I was curious about how good it does, you know, getting to new game plus seven just to see what the difficulty is. Yeah, because that's another thing because Tim is saying that they he thinks that like he is he's assuming and he's probably right to assume this that they're going to
01:37:35
Speaker
They're going to make the DLC fucking ridiculously hard for for somebody who's overleveled already. Oh, like they're just going to they're just going to they're going to scale it, you know, times a million at all right now. Not in one playthrough. So I think it only scales up if you new game. Plus, if you do a new game. OK. Yeah. You know, it's funny is like I was talking about how I've been replaying The Witcher and all that. You know what? I fucking I threw that bitch on easy. And I was like, I'm just is.
01:38:05
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Zoom in time, zoom through, man. Not like all the time, like it's because because in that game, some could say some would say that I'm doing the same thing by using. Yeah. You know, I've just put the game. It's either that or blasphemous blade. Either one is like. No, but like Amir made a good point. The problem with Moonvale is that you can get like I got it like fucking before even facing Godfrey or not. You did. You did. What's your name's quest line completely?
01:38:34
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Right now, you just have to Ronnie. I know you don't even have to do that. I went through. I opened the treasure chest in limb grave by the dragon that that trapped me in Caleb. And then I just. Yeah. And then I just ran Rotor and over to the tunnel. Hmm. I mean, the magma worm boss was hard. But like, I mean, it would probably been impossible if I.
01:39:02
Speaker
have if I'm playing the game for the first time ever, but like, you know, like I got through it at like level 35 or something. And then I've had Moonvale since level 35. And that's like pretty early in the game. So I basically, you know, I never did a Dex run like a speed run like with with Katana's and stuff. Hmm. And maybe I'll do that. I mean, it's fun.
01:39:27
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I Tim Tim, who likes to go to likes to punch herself continuously and the balls will make you feel bad a little bit. But well, I've done it like I did a magic build and a strength build. I did. Well, the thing is, you know, it's kind of like magic, too, because it's it scales with intelligence. Yeah. So I have a I switch my left hand with a staff to do some spells, too. And it doesn't damage. You're doing. Yeah. So yes, you're a tank. You're doing so much damage.
01:39:57
Speaker
Yeah, but it's melee. So like like when I tried to fight the. When I tried to fight the putrid tree spirit and Caleb, like it took me a little bit because what spells do you use? Like the fucking Loretta's great bow and damn. OK. What else? I really want to play this again.
01:40:20
Speaker
Dude it's like it's I'm telling you man like cuz like I last time I played it was what last fall So it's not it hasn't been that long. It's probably been longer since you played it. Yeah, it's gonna bet so it would be fucking One ending I didn't get it'll be pure bliss for you to play the game again, I think I think you'd really I
01:40:44
Speaker
You know, plus you already, you know, you already know where what you want to do, where you want to go. I know who everybody is. Know where everybody is. You know what quest lines you want to do, you know, where I am. I'm a strong man. Like, I'm just like, yeah, like, man, this game is just like, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, and the thing, the fact that I played through the game again and they said the DLC is as big as limb grave.
01:41:10
Speaker
Really make it really tickles my belly because like that means it's like basically a full game Like it's like it could be like 40 45 50 hours. Like they're usually pretty pretty chunky in my experience Yeah, cuz like I spent a lot of the time just like kind of trying to find stuff I didn't that's another cool thing to like I I spent a lot of time just riding the horse riding touring around trying to find stuff I didn't I didn't find before and then like
01:41:40
Speaker
I'll like, you know, I'm like, oh, man, this is cool. It's like a third of that. And that's like a third of the four. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. And like, actually, every that's that's cap, Chris, because like every single like continent and on the map is like humongous. If you actually think about it. That's true. But limb grave, I think, is bigger than than all the other ones. Yeah. Right. Easily. So man. But yeah, I don't want to.
01:42:09
Speaker
I mean, I do want to try to get you to play this again because I think me and Tim are kind of in the same area. So, like, I think together at all. No, not really. I mean, like co-op is fun, but like.
01:42:27
Speaker
What kind of sucks is like they they cut your flasks and like you're you're you're limited to a certain area. I like like if you want to. That's what new game plus is for. That's how. Yeah. And then like if if like if there's one area we want to do together, then like then it makes sense. Right. And then you're like, well, you hit them with the you up text. Yeah. But it's like, you know. It makes the game a little a little harder to because then you have to manage
01:42:55
Speaker
The the team too. Yeah, definitely like this and that's that's kind of a little more strategic in certain dungeons, right? I like it It's fun. Yeah, you guys it was fun when it was fun when Amir tried to try to flex his dick on me and was like It was so funny I was fucking dying those chariots are bullshit, man. Oh Yeah, dude
01:43:25
Speaker
Oh, I did. I did that part. That was tough to get through by myself because I didn't do it by myself before. I know the first time I did that with you and a mirror. So I didn't to be the champions or whatever. That's a pain in the ass. And there's a there's a bunch of stuff in there that that's good stuff to get to. Yeah, like really good stuff. So, yeah, I'm having fun. Like it's really good again. I'm going to jump in. Got to come in now.
01:43:55
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Yeah, so I'll probably my plan is to get to Moog, beat them and then like chill on like all the quests at that point, and then maybe just travel around and collect stuff that I need, like talismans and stuff that I don't have, like that kind of thing. I got I got like two days for three days coming up off. So I got two days now on one day.
01:44:18
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coming up. I'm going to say that's 60. That's what? 60 hours right there. That's your whole life is the ending. That's Final Fantasy ending. Oh man. I'll be finished by June 7th. That's where I am on my calendar. Yeah. Just don't, uh, I guess just save a lot more than you have. Trust me. That's never happening again. Never happening again.
New Paper Mario Game Discussion
01:44:44
Speaker
Yeah, that sucks.
01:44:46
Speaker
Well, does anybody else have any video games to talk about now? We can move on to. Yeah, I've been playing Paper Mario. Yeah. I've been playing the brand new Paper Mario Thousand Year Door remake. It is fantastic. I highly recommend somebody did somebody. I don't know if I posted this, Steve, but somebody posted a like, you know, how somebody tweets like all the scores on Metacritic for a game. It's like nine out of 10. Yeah.
01:45:16
Speaker
Well, somebody posted one for Paper Mario like the day it came out and it was all like fives and sixes at a tense. And I like my jaw drop. I was like, no way that they really fucked this up. But then I but then it was just it was just a troll. It was just a troll job. Yeah, I was like, I was like, oh, man, I was like, Devin, Devin's going to have a field day with this. That's the first thing that I thought.
01:45:40
Speaker
Man, I mean that's this is like the one thing like Paper Mario has been So out of its own element since the Wii. I remember I played the original Nintendo 64 one and I absolutely loved it for something at the Mario and Luigi star saga though like yeah, that was definitely like once those games came out and those kind of took the
01:46:02
Speaker
the like spiritual success heart from the weird spiritual successor of Paper Mario, which was the spiritual successor of Mario RPG, Mario RPG. But, you know, the Paper Mario games since the we won just that we won was just a straight up platformer. And it just it didn't satisfy me the way that the other games did or the other game did because I only played the one at the time. And then at that point, they always tried to add some weird element.
01:46:31
Speaker
Including the 2017 no, no 2018 Paper Mario game that was a color shuffle where the battle system was all weird and it was like
01:46:44
Speaker
You had to remember that. Yeah, you had to like organize like all of like these things before you even got into a fight. And it was just like not the stuff I want of playing a Paper Mario game. I just want to play like an RPG where I'm going through menus and stuff. And maybe I have contextual button presses when I'm like doing damage to get extra damage.
01:47:04
Speaker
So being able to go back and play the one paper Mario that like everybody loved and like has held up on like such high regard and finally just be able to like.
01:47:17
Speaker
Finally. Now you're in, you're in the club. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in the club. I get to see what all the hubbub was about. And it's, it's, it's been so well worth it. The writing is so fun. It's so just like, it's just an absolute blast to play. And it makes me think like, why hasn't this been like something that this franchise like had for so long? They just been kind of sleeping. So it's good to kind of have Paper Mario kind of show that like, yeah, this is what people want from this franchise. So.
01:47:46
Speaker
I'm having fun. I'm happy that last year I got to play more RPG for the first time. This year I got to play Thousand Year Door for the first time. So is it really that good? Because like that's what people said. And I know it's fantastic. I believe. OK, it's it's essentially just like if you like just like a really fun. It's like the Super Mario Saga games like the Mario Luigi Saga games where it's like that fun kind of writing. And the combat is awesome because it's
01:48:14
Speaker
It's weird. It's you're doing it on a stage and like the better you do, the more of an audience you pull. And sometimes like literally people in the audience will either be like toads or it'll be like Koopas. And sometimes the Koopas will pull out guns and stuff and like weapons and try and like sabotage you. And like you legit need to call like yourself into the audience and be like, get out of here. You're kicked out of the audience.
01:48:40
Speaker
So you're playing this game, but you're keeping your eye on what's happening around. If there's a weird set and you do a heavy hammer move, it might accidentally drop the set on the enemy, but it might drop the set on you and your party. There's a lot going on, and it's just all this really neat stuff. There's a really awesome boss fight, I would say, at the end of chapter one, where you fight a big dragon. You fight a big red dragon.
01:49:08
Speaker
And, you know, at one point you're just like, you know, you're like, this is just a classic, like I'm doing the fights like I have been before. And then it kind of breaks out into the actual like auditorium that you're, you're theming of the battles is in. And you're the big dragon is eating the audience to get its health back. And I'm like, I'm like, this is, this is great. This is so good. Yeah. And I'm only on like chapter two, chapter three, but like, I've just been hooked on it.
01:49:38
Speaker
I'm just, it's just clever. Apparently it's like 50 hours. So it's like, it's a, it's a decent chunk, but it's not going to be like something that like, you know, you're putting like 300, 400 hours into. So you're not going to lose a whole week and have it right. Fuck your whole life up. It's, it's definitely like a streamlined RPG, but it's, it's something that's kind of nice to have. Cause it calls back to those, like, here's a classic menu RPG system. So I'm so far double thumbs up. I'll let you know as I keep going deeper into it.
01:50:08
Speaker
I mean, I'm sure it's not going to get worse. Can you imagine like, I totally turned around on it. Yeah. Terrible. Dude. I don't know what it was. And suddenly the kid G showed up and it got even better.
01:50:23
Speaker
Well, I mean, if Kid G showed up in any game I'm playing, I'm going to be like, this game's a little better. Can we pretend that Kid G has existed in gaming history since like the early days? I thought he existed since before Mario, to be perfectly honest. Steve, I'll be honest. Pac-Man, Kid G. Kid G, you look at when Kid G shows up in that game, you're like,
01:50:44
Speaker
What is this like a was is he a guest character like how what game did he show up in before hey cloud?
Fictional Legacy of Characters
01:50:51
Speaker
It's good to see you, buddy It's Kije here. I hear I put I protect these cactus creatures that are down here No, just wait. Just wait till uh some endgame stuff Chris This is the first picture that popped up when I googled Kije
01:51:11
Speaker
And I'm like, Oh, is this just like, is this just like a classic dude that I just don't remember? I think he's like a d-res, like a d-res for it. I don't know why. Maybe actually, maybe I'm just speaking on my ass. Look up Kid G rule 34. Oh, dude, I guarantee that has to exist. Also fucking something, right? Dude, that's just a goblin.
01:51:37
Speaker
That's just a goblin. Oh, maybe that's it. Yeah, because he's a cool guy. He looks cool. Well, really, I don't know stuff. I would do drugs if he gave them to me. Yeah. So kid G is in Goblin Island in the original game.
01:51:55
Speaker
Wow. Burrow. I know that somebody was like, I fucking love this character design and we are going to do something with this. I swear to fucking Christ, Kije isn't in the new game. I'm going to fucking scream. Some guy worked for weeks on a present PowerPoint and he was like, I wish I could send that guy gift baskets. He fought a good fight, man. He fought a good fight. Well, you know, he's a he's a fun fight.
01:52:22
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he's just he's everything you want from anything. Okay. Does that help? Is that a good review of that character? You want to like in Avatar? He's everything I aspire to be. Yeah. Is everything I want to be? I want to wear the boxing gloves all the time. People will be like, that's fine. Also, uh,
01:52:45
Speaker
I looked it up, I tried. Apparently there's no toxic adventure wide release planned. Fuck, really? It released in like September of last year at like fantasy fest or whatever. No shit, really? With Peter Dinklage? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they're like, yeah, it hasn't really... Oh my god. It's heard about it since, which doesn't make any sense. I'm like, why not? It's sad and weird and... Apparently Shudder has a fantastic fest.
01:53:11
Speaker
came out at. But like shutter has like a street or not shutter. Drama has like a streaming thing. And it's like, where is it? When is it coming out? When can everybody else? Never. I don't know. Yeah, that's it's we all look for it. Oh, it's crystal games. Oh, there's a guy.
Sony's Event and Game Announcements
01:53:33
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But yeah, you want to go through like two weeks worth of news, we could probably
01:53:38
Speaker
Yeah, we'll just stream rapid fire. I'm going to need a TLDR on the state of play too.
01:53:46
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, we can get there. Jump into that first. It's fresh. It is fresh. It's hot. You know what? We'll get exhausted later on. Yeah. Yeah. Smaller stuff. Yeah. So Sony had a state of play. They announced it a whole day early. So I would say expectations weren't super high. And that's the right. That was the right vibe to go into because there wasn't a lot here. They showcased Concord, which kind of just looks like
01:54:17
Speaker
The like a team move version of Overwatch. I guess I have enough of those right now. I don't know. Yes, there's a lot. Is that the valve one? There's a valve. That's that's the one. Was that Valorant? I just make that up. No, Valorant is the counter strike hero shooter. The one you're thinking, the one John's talking about is a different one that wasn't shown here, but OK.
01:54:44
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Yeah, so there's a concord which like, I don't know, everybody's just like, it's Guardians of Galaxy vibes.
01:54:51
Speaker
They're trying so hard that Kyle Bossman video was like on and the money with like all those characters. Yeah, it's. It doesn't like in a bubble, it looks really proficient, looks pretty solid, but it's like it's it's really crowded on top of the Marvel Rivals, which does seems like it's a worse game, but it's going to be way more popular for obvious reasons.
01:55:19
Speaker
But I don't know it's it was there I checked out as soon as I like confirm what game type it was I was like
01:55:28
Speaker
I don't know. Is it free? Maybe I check it out. Probably not even. But we'll see. Concord feels like. Do you remember when they showed off that video where it was like, here's a bunch of thieves all trying to steal out of the same vault to shoot each other with the silly guns? It's like it's like that game where it's like, I don't even know what the fuck that's called. It's got that samey ass like visual style where it's like it's kind of real, but it's like not. Yeah. It's not fully Fortnite ass Fortnite where it's like cartoon characters, but
01:55:58
Speaker
It's just funny because it's like when Sony announced that they were like, oh, we're going to have like five different studios make live service games. Everybody was like.
01:56:08
Speaker
That's not a good idea. No, it's not really so far. It's it hasn't really been working out. And what about this game trailer you posted here where the wind breaks? Is this five game coming out? What? Yeah, no, it's all that about farting, farting in the world. I think so. There's two games, Ballad of Antara and Where Winds Meet. They both seem like souls like type games.
01:56:37
Speaker
Uh, where wins meet at least has, you know, it gives you a crouching tiger vibes, which is, uh, not something you see a lot of in 2024, but I don't know. Like they both look competent, but I just read a play action RPG, which one.
01:56:58
Speaker
Ballad of Antara. Oh, yeah. Got to get your ballot pass to make sure you could fight the final boss. Yeah. So battle pass so you can have the ability to jump in the game. So I guess where wins meet might be a little bit more interesting because of what Steve just said. Set in the 10 kingdoms era, you were taking the role of a swordsman who will play a critical role and influence the outcome of the conflict. Your decisions are key in how the events will unfold.
01:57:29
Speaker
I mean, you know, looks kind of. This is tough, right? Because like a lot of these games. Says not to kind of be mean a little bit, look all fairly budget state. State of play is a smaller that's not there. But like every game they showed, right? I was like, this looks budget. Dude, I'm not going to lie here in this weird spot where if it doesn't look like Last of Us or are, you know, God of War, it looks kind of cheap.
01:57:59
Speaker
You know, it's it we're in a strange place right now where it's like Sony has to drop a banger like they have to like drop a banger whenever they do something because a lot a lot of the indie games like, you know, people will just kind of word of mouth them like you don't really need to show off too much at like a thing. I was going to let down alien rogue incursion. I saw pictures of it. I thought we were getting an alien isolation sequel.
01:58:25
Speaker
Oh, no, it's not that. No, it's a fucking VR headset game. Well, it's like, damn it. It's hard, but it's a VR game. Why would you sign off on that? I just haven't got a we got to pretend like we're still making it. We're still making VR two games. So with Sony, would Sony drop a bomb on their state of play because like.
01:58:47
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Because Summer Games has coming up on Friday. Their bomb was Astro. Yeah, I think Sony's was, I guess, to their credit, maybe they were pretty up from there. Like there's not really a lot going on this year and there hasn't been. But you'd think they'd want to drop the bomb at their thing. Yeah, but we will put words in Neil Druckmann's mouth. Yeah. That we we hype everybody up. Yeah.
01:59:14
Speaker
to the point where he he might he might John. They own him. They can do whatever they want with them, right? Well, that works, you would think, but he was very clear in his on his in his Twitter. He was like, this is what I said. They did not. I wish what I said.
01:59:31
Speaker
A property of Sony said something different than what they said. Yeah, dude. They actually took that whole thing down. I think it was just like such a shit. Yeah, I mean, it's a really bad look for them, to be honest. I translated this fucking interview or like. Yeah, I wonder if somebody got fired. I would say Neil Druckmann got fired.
01:59:55
Speaker
They were like, it's your fault. We're sending you to Xbox. No. Yeah. So, you know, there's been the path of exile to the bangers. What are the bangers? Uh, there are no any bangs or wilds, which everybody's the monster. The monster click is going nuts for that. Well, me personally, I don't see any bangers here. Yeah. Chris, the banger and Steve will probably agree is Astro Bot.
02:00:26
Speaker
That's the bad. I'm not paying full price for this, though. Dude, yeah, that was it. I mean, that was it. That was the free fucking like tech. I know. Like this is my this is my thing is like people are like like people are acting like this is like a big that like this was actually like a bomb for them to drop. And it's not like. No, honestly, this was the game. Everybody said, what are teams? What's team so we've been doing?
02:00:51
Speaker
They want we want another Astrobot. And then this is this is it. Like everybody was. Astrobot. Astrobot's not going to fucking sell systems, though. Like that's the thing. Astrobot was free. It comes for free. Dude, Astrobot was a game where after I played it, I said, if they made a sequel, I would buy this. I would buy like a real, like, you know, our game. Let's talk money. Let's talk money, though. Typical. Seventy dollars. So any pony that never played Mario games in his life would say the same thing.
02:01:21
Speaker
Like when's the last Mario game came out? It's been a minute man This is the game This is the Mario game if they announce a Mario game like in the next month
02:01:37
Speaker
for the switch. No, but honestly, this is this is like the the marvel of Marvel. This is the Mario galaxy. This is. No, it's not. Yes, it's more like I do. I do not have a platformer. It's good. It's nice. But it's not fucking Mario, Devin. Come on, man. Well, where's Mario? This is their Mario. This is this is what little big big planet man. This is not their Mario. Their Mario is like
02:02:05
Speaker
Uncharted or the last of us talking about the platformer We were pumped for legal little big planet we were kind of I agree Yeah, but still like don't fucking don't like this is bad Mario Don't downplay Mario. It's being just Nintendo's platformer. Like it's not fucking carrying their
02:02:29
Speaker
that like it doesn't carry their they tried to give little big planet carding and it did not work yeah it's fucking there is astro is astro bot gonna be a fucking multi-billion dollar motion picture release is that okay okay
02:02:45
Speaker
All I'm saying is like the argument is an Asher bot equals Mario in terms of like mindshare, right? But we're talking about like, oh, a fun 3D platformer that by a company and a developer that's done nothing but a really good fun 3D platformers. By a publisher whose console sales are they're producing more than they can sell right now.
02:03:11
Speaker
What's that have to do with this game, dude? And they're deathly afraid of Call of Duty. They have set it in internal leaked meetings in the past. Sure, yeah.
02:03:21
Speaker
Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. Like, why, like, duty with Asher about that. Like, what do you mean? Like, what's your why? Why are we acting like this is a huge fucking because in terms of the show, this is the big one. This was the one that everybody's like. And in my opinion, it's a play week. It is. That's a week. That's a week thing to I mean, I'm not going to tell you this, Devin. I'll tell you this. If I wanted to play a platform, I just buy a switch. Like, that's the way I look at this.
02:03:49
Speaker
So you don't care about the the game. You just care about the genre. Is that what I'm hearing? No, no. I understand what Chris is saying. I care about somebody who's been making platforms for like.
02:04:00
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century. Yeah, this isn't really like they were going to do it right. And this game fucking blows up and is the the critical darling that no, that'll be great. Right. Each platform kind of it kind of lends itself to a genre specification. And like, you know, with
02:04:22
Speaker
with platformers, you get a switch, you get a Nintendo platformer. But what's the argument that people shouldn't be excited for this game? No, the argument is people are waiting for a big announcement from Sony and some copers are acting like this was it and it's not.
02:04:39
Speaker
Well, this is in comparison, like this is like if this is the thing that's what's the thing. Sure. Sure. But like in terms of a game that I was like, oh, I was I hope they make one of these games and they did. And I'm like, oh, sick. I'll probably buy this assuming it's not. You know, don't over price. If this is a 40 dollar title, I think it's going to be 50 bucks. That's ridiculous, dude. I mean, OK.
02:05:07
Speaker
Mario, Mario. It might be 70 dollars. 60. The new. Well, the new. I'm comparing this to a platformer that's going to be more than 10 hours. I guess 50 bucks an hour. There's more 40 dollar indie games anymore. They're all 50. Like let's just get 40 out of the 50. And so this is really hurting. This is 70. It's like that's a bad call. But this is it's.
02:05:37
Speaker
What are they saying? Like 80 80 like this isn't like, oh, it's going to be fun for four hours. Like, oh, this is a fun little tech. This is not they're like, this is the real game that we're putting together. We're going to charge you money for. And based off my experience with the previous Astro Bot and the other VR games that I never played, it was a really good game that came. Listen, you could be you could be salty that a game got announced that people are happy about. I don't know. Like, I don't know what you're mad about.
02:06:07
Speaker
I'm not mad because I wanted them to announce something that would shake up the industry a little bit. I'm hoping they're saving that for summer game stuff. Steve, why would they not announce it at their own fucking event? The state of play is like the small beans show. Is it? Because we've seen the Last of Us trailers, we've seen
02:06:31
Speaker
We've seen reveals. Oh, it's the June PlayStation show. It should have been the big one. But this is like that's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's just like it's I'm not mad that people are happy. I'm mad that people are coping because they're the Sony's failed to announce a big title in. I don't even know how long. Like if anything, they're big announcement, in my opinion, which is which is really shitty, is that God of War Ragnarok's coming for PC.
02:06:57
Speaker
So, you know, that's their big announcement. Yeah. They're going to make money off of the off of the people that didn't buy their PlayStation fives. They're going to make money off of it. Just just make sure you sign up for that PSN account. Yeah. Yeah. That's like I'm not I'm not mad. People are happy. I'm mad that that
02:07:18
Speaker
you know, that people are being fucking ghastly. Like I'm mad that I'm mad that Sony like still has yet to do anything. Like, and I just don't like as good as as Astrobot could be like, like that's not I mean, that's not what I was expecting and what I wanted from them. Yeah. I'm saying. And like there's nothing I guess it's just like they were like, it's going to be a bad year. And it's been a pretty rough year in terms of first party for everything.
02:07:47
Speaker
Like what the only exclusive I can even think of like first party exclusives I can think of is what the fucking part of me like the the fucking cynic inside of me like is believes that since Microsoft is flailing like Sony just doesn't feel like they need to do anything right now. Like they don't like it. They they probably could announce something, but they're holding off on whatever just because they don't need to.
02:08:14
Speaker
You know, with that and they don't have to get they don't have to get married to a release date if it might get delayed because, you know, they don't have to because they're they're number one right now. Yeah. And can you blame it? Like, why would they release or announce something that could get bad press with the delay? Like, it's going to be the game to play fucking GTA six on. It's going to be the console to play GTA six on. It's going to be like this is this year is just the third party year. That's just the reality of it.
02:08:44
Speaker
Like Nintendo announced a good third party game. I don't like five days. He said it just came out. Yeah, like third trees coming out like like there's been solid third party game. Stellar Blade was a fairly big hit. Like there's games coming out. It's just like it's not it's just a dog. It's not it feels bad when they have all these fucking media releases like
02:09:14
Speaker
Tweets and interviews of Neil Druckmann saying he's really excited about this new IP Like in the days leading up to their state of play and they don't have they don't even have a title They don't have anything to show for it like that feels bad To the point where they they put words in Neil Druckmann's mouth while there while he's talking about the new IP that's coming Yeah, you know while the last of a season two is filming like what's going on like I
02:09:44
Speaker
It's really it's really disappointing, in my opinion. And I wish I missed the times where they would just crunch and get things out, get things out on time. Take your extra bot and be happy is what is what they're selling you because I don't think you're going to get anything. You might want. Right. They don't. I don't think one astrobot's not their tent pole release for this year. No, it is. No, it is. It is. What would it be?
02:10:09
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Steve it is AstroBots. No, but like they legit they legit three days before The the state of play they put out that is $70 where they were talking about how every year they release one monster game last year Yeah, it's gonna be AstroBots. AstroBots gonna it's gonna be $70 on release It's gonna be death training too. That's what it's gonna be. It's gonna be death training. They already announced that's next year Oh, oh, yeah, you're right. Fuck. Yeah, I don't know man. I think it's AstroBots, dude
02:10:39
Speaker
Like that's why I'm that's why I'm upset them. Yes. People are happy about Astrobot. I'm upset because people have to pretend that they're they're happy about Astrobot to cope with that. I mean, like, I mean, is that they want to. I saw Astrobot and I said, I'm happy. Yeah, you're being ghastly, Devin. You just have to get I'm not being ghastly. I get it out now, dude. Yeah. I played my Godi already.
02:11:10
Speaker
Witcher three. It's just like that's yours every year. Every year. No, but like I played my my PlayStation exclusive game of the year quality game earlier this year. And I am very happy with that. Like I'm still full. Will I like I know I know they're sitting on. I mean, I know these I know these motherfuckers are sitting on on Bloodborne remastered like I know they are.
02:11:39
Speaker
They have to be like everybody's doing remasters of John. Don't you know that he accidentally deleted the source? Oh shit, man. Like I don't like like why sit on it? Like, you know, you know, it's coming out, right?
02:11:53
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, I would hope that they have that. It's so weird. I hope I would hope that it's not happened yet. It's stupid because it's so easy for them to just get the same team that did the Demon's Souls remaster and just get them to do Bloodborne. And then they make millions, billions of dollars again. They sell a bunch of consoles. People get excited about the brand again. Like, you know what I mean? And then at that point, Call of Duty is kind of an afterthought because but again, like another reason probably in them
02:12:22
Speaker
you know, arguing with myself here. But another reason they probably don't want to announce bloodborne remaster like three weeks before Elden Ring DLC comes out. It's probably not a good look for from soft, you know, unless unless unless no, I know people still buy it. But like, you know, it makes it it would. It would give off the wrong impression like that they can't. They can't they feel like they can't be carried by
02:12:51
Speaker
Which they can't which they can't yeah, so so me I mean maybe like what's the next ones e3? When summer games for us to meet jith keith three three summer summer games fest is Friday that trailer that That trailer that Jeff Healy fucking put out there or not June 7th June 7th. Yeah June
02:13:18
Speaker
Yeah. OK, yeah. And he put out a trailer with a bunch of stuff on there. And what was really interesting in the fighting games world is that they showed Fatal Fury and Street Fighter stuff at the same time.
Speculation on Future Game Projects
02:13:31
Speaker
And people are speculating that they're going to announce the season two Street Fighter characters at this event. So that would be cool if they had a crossover and they had a Fatal Fury character in Street Fighter. That would be sick. Yo, you got to put Terry in it, right?
02:13:46
Speaker
I don't know, man. Do you? I mean, I don't know. I mean, you already have the sprite because fucking Leon Kennedy is already an R.E. engine. You just throw him on there. He's there. Because Terry had the had the jacket first, apparently, which is the first thing I first time I heard of it before. Yeah, but we have the yeah, I don't know, man. I just like now like this. That's the thing, like.
02:14:15
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For now, all we've heard were rumblings. They released the Last of Us 2 documentary, and it was so perfectly edited. It ends on Neil Druckmann saying that there is a story. There is something for Last of Us Part III. And then four days ago,
02:14:37
Speaker
We have Sony putting words that you'll drop. But when he's when he's talking about the new IP that he's really excited for, you know, like, you know, just in general, he's talking about a new IP. Right. Like, yeah. Now, state of play comes out and like they don't announce anything. Also, like, what the fuck is Santa Monica doing? Like, what are they? What are they working on? You know, we haven't even heard anything like I know. Like, are they working on stuff like?
02:15:05
Speaker
Like, you know, they're doing they're doing something. What's his name's working on something? Cory Barlog asked me because he didn't even direct the sequel to his game. That's what I mean. He that fucking dude's been.
02:15:18
Speaker
So weird because I don't understand. And I guess it's different for everybody. And if it was easily understanding, like we'd all know. But it's just like, I don't understand how Cory Barlog can be like, I'm the game director on this and then choose to not being to be like a producer. Yeah. All while potentially working on another game. But we all know like studios aren't that big. So it's not like worst case. He was just like,
02:15:45
Speaker
skeleton crewing, you know, had like a like a rough production of a game. That's what happens. That's what happens when you're the big man. Six years. I mean, that's you could think about that with Naughty Dog, too. Neil Drucken became president of the company. Yeah. He's also directing games and being a showrunner for the adaptation. Like like I feel like he there's nobody to tell him or Cory Barlog when
02:16:13
Speaker
They have to get things done. They could just do whatever the fuck they want at that point. Yeah, they're you know, they're the big they're the big names. They're the big big heads. It's too much. It's too much. But it is too much. I don't know. Like I know yourself. Shinji Shinji Makami yourself. Demote yourself to game director. And I'm out with a classic that changes video games. Ironically, that's all you have to do. That's all you have to do, dude. It's kind of what the guy did, didn't he? He like he demoted himself to just being like the guy that like
02:16:45
Speaker
doesn't make the big decisions anymore. He's like, I just want to talk about like gun balance. He's like, I don't really care about like quarterly reports. He's like, I just want to make the guns fun. I just want to make fun games. You know what? I respect that. I respect that. But yeah, I mean, in terms of like a show, it's like a
02:17:08
Speaker
It's a kill. It's a six. I don't see it being anything higher than that. It's just like it's not a good show. It's not impressive. Yeah, I think he's got one thing because generally he always has like one thing that he snatches from like everybody, with the exception of Nintendo. Maybe it's blood blood, bloodborne, but it's like I don't like you really think he like got the naughty dog game? I don't think he did.
02:17:35
Speaker
now there's no way it's just like we're just not gonna see that shit until like christmas this year it's just crazy because it's like does naughty dog even still company like are they because like what are they fucking doing are they just a tv show are they just a tv show that you're doing something that's all i want just
02:17:56
Speaker
Damn it's the last the last big news from Naughty Dog video games wise that was confirmed was that they're throwing away last of us to multiplay yeah because like that was the last thing they thought they could just
02:18:16
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it might have been fine. And maybe Bungie dropped the ball by telling them that it wasn't, you know, I don't know. Yeah. But like, I mean, when they said like we decide like we came across the realization that we either have to be like a free to play studio or or just like continue making games that we want to make.
02:18:36
Speaker
And it's like, if that's the decision, which honestly, I believe, because if you talk to anybody who's ever worked on Fortnite, they're like, yeah, dude, that's pretty much all we got time for. Like they're not making anything else. Like they're just doing the next thing. And if you don't, you're dead. You're a dead game and nobody fucking likes you and you're embarrassed on the internet. And, uh, that's pretty much where it all starts and stops.
02:19:01
Speaker
But it's crazy. Oh, Saturday. I didn't. Well, I guess that's the fun part is we'll find out more on next time we record. Yeah. We'll have a whole slew of new info. Slues. A whole slew. If you will.
Industry Acquisitions and Game Community Excitement
02:19:17
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All right. You want to keep it on the chain gun, dude? Yeah. Yeah. We got it. We got a speed run gun. So IGN bought like five companies, which is OK.
02:19:30
Speaker
And we just kind of saw us a little bit. Rock paper shotgun. Yeah. Pour one out for your icon. You're a gamer and game informer. No, you're a gamer. Oh, got them. I quit. I quit this podcast.
02:19:47
Speaker
This is this was for me. I don't know. I think you guys should also love this. But the Space Marine Two trailer showing co-op this fucking also. This is like I. Yeah, I'm good. This comes out like September. Like I'm good. I'm full. Is this what is co-op? Two people, three people. Oh, that's fun. That's fun. Yeah, that's going to be awesome. And it's it's three people co-op where I guess you're doing like
02:20:16
Speaker
I know they did invent the genre, but just for you're doing like hell divers ask, you know, runs. And then there's 66 or 66, you know, PVP six versus six. Yeah. So you can be like Deafem action shit. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the original. Yeah. Which is like, fuck. Oh, the original of that. Oh, yeah. It was kind of slept on, but it was like really fleshed out. It was awesome. Yeah.
02:20:44
Speaker
And I was weirdly good at it because I want it to be, I guess. Yeah, this game is going to rock. We think we talked about this, but the Jason Voorhees is coming to multiverses, which is cool. Weird. We talked about the Neil Druckmann thing. Boltgun DLC. That's cool. Boltgun's awesome, dude. Boltgun's like, don't sleep on Boltgun. Shally Ertri's story trailer, which, you know, you guys are into.
02:21:15
Speaker
You guys are excited. Getting that story, baby. Getting that story that you guys don't really follow. I don't really understand. I mean, everybody else does, but I'm like, oh, that's cool. I got a general idea. I got a general idea. You know what? That's, I don't mean, I almost made that jerk off joke. I was almost like, that's pretty redundant. That's pretty redundant. There's a fucking story trailer for the FromSoft game.
02:21:41
Speaker
This is for body where he's like I got on you post that Twitter post where it was one the one where it was like all the YouTube
Movie Sequels and Lore Expansion
02:21:54
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Elden Ring theorists after the trailer was announced, and it was the Tony Montana. That's been hitting too, because there's the Wildwood shirts won when Trump was found guilty on all counts. That one made me giggle pretty heavily in bed the other day.
02:22:18
Speaker
And the transition is perfect, too. Oh, yeah, it's perfect. What are they even saying? Like, Chris, what are they even saying to each other like in that when they're what? Oh, they're talking. They're talking about their their product selling out the wazoo, man, because that's like the the the highest point for Tony Montana. He's selling out selling cocaine. He's working with that guy. He's like, don't fuck me, Tony. There's one thing you can't do and you can't fuck me that guy.
02:22:46
Speaker
He makes all of his money with them and they're successful. That's the best time, but it's a montage. So there's no dialogue. It's they're just playing. Yeah. Yes. Take it to the limit. Take it to the limit. The limit. How good.
02:23:14
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Good song, man. Chris, have you had two rates? If you had to pick one, Beatlejuice, Beatlejuice trailer or Beverly Hills Cop, actual F. Oh, my God. Which play to do, I like. I liked one of these. I didn't like either of them. You didn't like the Beatles. I kind of like. No. And something that I watch a red letter media video about. OK, they put they they pointed something out and I
02:23:43
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made them groan and I was like, oh God, no, this is awful. So Monica Baluchi's character, she's missing her ring finger on her hand. Oh yeah, you're right. She's missing the ring or the whole thing? She's missing the ring finger on her hand, the entire ring finger. And they said, well, that's obviously going to be a reference to the one-off little joke that Beetlejuice had in the first movie where he pulls out a finger.
02:24:10
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And he tells Lydia, she meant nothing to me, nothing at all. And he pulls the wedding ring off to give to her. So they're building.
02:24:18
Speaker
A pointless plot line to a one-off show. Excuse me. That should have just been left, the one-off show. They turned it into lore, damn, man. You know. And he did the face thing. The greatest monkey paw in the history of everything is the lore of things. Because I was always like, you know, what is the lore of Beetlejuice?
02:24:44
Speaker
are like the lure of Slimer, right? Like who was Slimer, right? And I go on the wiki sometimes and I read. He's a fat guy. You ate too much, right? He was like a king or an evil emperor or something like that. But my point is, is like they would be like, yeah, let's make that a whole two hour movie and it's going to not be nearly as good as you think it was. Nope. Nope. And it's like, yeah, no. All this dumb, all this dumb shit that they're taking out of context and blowing up at our proportion.
02:25:12
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is gonna be bad. So that's what I saw when I saw Beetlejuice trailer, but I think Axle F is probably even more offensive.
02:25:23
Speaker
because it just is nothing. I'm that guy. I've never liked those movies. I like Beverly Hills Cop 1. It's fine. It's because Eddie Murphy's funny. Yeah. When Eddie Murphy was funny. Yeah, really. But like, the thing is, Eddie Murphy, he was in that I Am Dolomite movie, and that was great. That was great.
02:25:44
Speaker
He was great in it, and I was like, oh shit, he's gonna do something great. This is him making his comeback, and now he's just cashing in again. Both these movies are guilty of doing the cardinal sin of...
02:26:00
Speaker
like bringing out a corpse of a movie to just fuck in front of everybody again. Yeah.
The Rock's Influence and TV Production Insights
02:26:06
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And that is taking a song from the original and doing the dramatic version of it. I was like. Yes. It's bad.
02:26:23
Speaker
You know what's funny is like I'd make fun of that but like that literally like the Exorcist trailer like a year ago. I was like we did it and I liked it so. But the Beetlejuice one does. That's all that's all you get. Well. I believe it. Oh man. Long legs trailer.
02:26:53
Speaker
I know a lot. I think I regret it watching this trailer because I was so into just not knowing anything. And it's not like this gives it away. It didn't really give anything away. So I got that picture, John. It's got that picture. It's got that scene. I don't like that. I don't like that. Let me raise the brightness on it for you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't want that to one. I like it. I don't like it. I like it. Oh, man. Yeah. But that's going to be.
02:27:20
Speaker
What's that coming out? Do we know? I know it's on your life. It's like 12. Oh, we're in a birthday birthday. Galani birthday movie movie. Oh, yeah, baby. Visions coming back. You guys are excited for that big vision heads. Who fucking cares?
02:27:39
Speaker
I thought you were going to use that part down, that fart in the hallway. Yeah, I was waiting for a fart in the hallway. The best Paul Butney was when he was wearing a little apron in the Scarlet Witch show. Oh, yeah. WandaVision. Yeah. WandaVision. Yeah. Got to be charming. Yeah. He was very charming, but yeah, he doesn't have to wear shit anymore. Just let him be him. Just let him wear human skin. Yeah. Dexter Original Sin. That's a show. It's kind of weird. Like the prequel.
02:28:09
Speaker
Yeah, dude, doing later as his dad. Yeah, we don't need this. Do we need do we need young Dexter? Showtime, young Sheldon ended. Also, there's a void. Yeah, of course, there's a boy. I don't know. I don't know what they could do with this, though, because it's like he's not even like a serial killer yet because he's still kid. So it's like, why? Later is going to play his dad, right? It's going to be them picking up roadkill and dissecting roadkill.
02:28:38
Speaker
I'm talking about being a cop. I don't know, man. I want to. I want to remember Christian Slater's last role being the guy that ate way too much caviar on it. He ate all of it. It was for the party. So why did they put it out here? Well, it's for everyone. He's a really good Mr. Robot.
02:29:04
Speaker
I think it's pronounced Robar. Mr. Robar. Mr. Robar. Man, this blew my mind. So this trailer like broke all sorts of records for like view counts and all that, but Moana too, which I was like, okay, that was cool.
02:29:26
Speaker
Big Moana fans. I know you guys I Didn't know they were I didn't know they were I heard that they were doing a a live-action, but I didn't know they were doing that was kind of yeah, like all of a sudden I was like, oh, is this it and then
02:29:43
Speaker
Here we go. And then it's the whole time. I'm like, when's the rock showing up? And then, you know, the boss is in this final. Final boss is in this. Oh, thank God. The final boss. Yeah. So the rock is now called the final boss. And he whips Cody Rhodes with a belt that says my roads on it. And he says he's doing this for Mama Rhodes. And he curses all the time. Like fuck left and right. Yeah. Like he's like, I don't care if this is on.
02:30:10
Speaker
USA, fuck you. Dude, he owns, he owns the WWE now. He owns more of the WWE than Vince McMahon does. When he comes out, does he, there's a big boss health bar fill up. No, dude, there's a moment in his new intro where it's like, boom, final boss. Like it's mid intro.
02:30:32
Speaker
You know, I'm into it. That'd be kind of sick though. If like a giant health bar appeared at the top of your screen and it becomes out on the, on the, no, you know what? But instead of the health bar, it's him peeing in a Voss bottle. And it just goes up all the way. Scourge of the people. Let's get to work. Who cares? We're eight hours late. Whenever he loses, he says something really like esoteric, like you've could have been the one.
02:31:01
Speaker
I did not be fucking Cody Rhodes tumbling around fucking drinking from Estes flasks nonstop. That's what I want to say. Or give me give me some of those Arkham style kill screens. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Make sure you hit our two when you're fighting against the rock. Like what? Excuse me. All right. I'm excited to play it in 2K 26. Bear season three trailer.
02:31:31
Speaker
The trailers are always weird there, but I'm I'm I'm more. I'm more like really surprised at the fact that they finished it. So, you know, I think that's a crazy thing. Well, I think I've seen Devin the last time we podcast. What is the show other than this shooting in the kitchen? Like you could pop those out in like a month. They just do what every week. They're like, all right, we're already at fucking season 20, man. It's one set. Like, I mean, I applaud them for that. That's like.
02:32:00
Speaker
Yeah. That's cutting down so much overhead and time. Like they don't have to do location shooting. It's all right there. Oh man. Hey, I'm a bear head. I know you bear head bear head, man. I know you guys bear head. Yeah. Chris, are you a bear head? Not really bear head. Oh my God. You're not bear head, bro. Fuck out. I hate you. So good. I have kind of a bear head on the fact that they,
02:32:29
Speaker
Make a show that's like economical. I'm really into that. I need to watch it. I'm impressed. I'm impressed by that alone. All right. Yeah, I think
Typecasting in Hollywood and Silent Hill Movie
02:32:42
Speaker
that's pretty much what it was. This last thing, Stevie Post. They're going to cast the guy in Shogun to play to play Lord Shishimura probably. I could see it to paint Steve. I definitely see it. Hey.
02:32:58
Speaker
What? I hope you all know that. Come on, Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat. I'm more surprised they didn't cast Pedro Pascal to be him, to be honest. That guy's getting pagers getting paid no matter what. You know, it's funny, I always see the trailers for Civil War and I'm like, that's this a budget Pedro Pascal. It's in that movie. I know exactly what you're talking about.
02:33:25
Speaker
Yeah, you know you looked at him. You're like, oh you're oh, that's the guy that's Pedro Pat This is the guy that got the job cuz Pedro said no. Yes eating enough money No
02:33:37
Speaker
Well, this is the guy who got fucked up by Sadako in the Ringu. I know. Listen, I'm kind of, I'm upset. What? This is the guy. Yeah, it is the guy. That's the actor? That's the actor. Oh, why did you know that? Because he's the only one who fucking dies in that movie. Yeah, he's right. In the Ringu? In Ringu. In Ringu. He's a little, yeah, yeah. He's right.
02:34:02
Speaker
Are we talking about? I'm talking about fucking that guy. Yeah, this guy the guy Wagner Mora. No, no, no, you're Yoko sonata. Sonata. Yeah. Oh, the guy show me original Civil War. OK. No, no, no, no. I was like, why the fuck does that guy? He got done by Sonic. Oh.
02:34:37
Speaker
I feel I feel a little bad for this actor though. I feel like he's he gets time casting
02:34:42
Speaker
Like he's Japanese samurai. Listen, stop me if you heard this, but we think you should be some guy that's really good with swords. I know. Give them something else. That's why he took the scorpion role. He's like a spear. Oh, I can. Oh, it's such a pressure. What a breath of fresh air. And I only have to be in two scenes. I'm in.
02:35:07
Speaker
Well, I think with that ground shattering news, we'll end the podcast. Yeah. And all I'm going to say, I'll, I'll, I'll end it on this.
02:35:20
Speaker
Silent Hill 2 remakes gonna be the best game of the year get the fuck out of here man See what they did to Maria man. That's supposed to represent. I don't know I don't know that is oh, right. You never fucking played it. You've been lying We did I bought you a side hill to mug when I went to the theme park Silent Hill theme park I'll go there
02:35:49
Speaker
Yeah, you know, I don't even get that reference because I didn't play the game. So they showed images from the Silent Hill movie that's coming. Did you know that I just found this out and I thought this was great. I thought this is great. You know who's directing it? The new one, the guy that directed the first one. Oh, makes brought him back. He's like, hell yeah, I'm making again. He's like just remaking his own movie. I think I'm back, baby. I'm back. And so it's this one's based on the plot of two because
02:36:19
Speaker
but isn't the first one based off the plot on the plot of one. And then it's also based on the plot of the, the fucking role miners. If I remember correctly, one.
02:36:35
Speaker
is before the first game. The first movie is before the first game. It's them. They flip. They flip the rules. So Harry becomes the wife and the wife explores the town. And Harry's not important anymore. But doesn't Harry go there eventually at the end to find them?
02:36:55
Speaker
Because that's what I thought they were trying to know. So they they come home and they live in this like really fucking nice Hollywood mansion. But there's nobody there. Oh, but she's she's stuck in Silent Hill. The wife is stuck in Silent Hill and Harry has to take care of. OK, I got to see the sequels. I tried to see the sequel. I kind of fell asleep during it. It's not good. They're not good.
02:37:21
Speaker
Okay, fine Then I'll rescind that statement and I'll just say Astro bot is the B side to Mario Odyssey's a side All right, everybody happy 500 we'll see you for the next 500 Have a great night. Bye