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28 Years Later
29 Plays4 days ago
Chris and Devon talk about the newest Danny Boyle film!
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts' Banter
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DeeBo
Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy Podcast for the week of June 23rd, 2025. It's a scorcher, everyone. It's like literally 110 degrees on the East Coast, and it's like 9 o'clock at night.
00:00:16
DeeBo
It's brutal, and I hate it. And I'm melting, but hi, everyone. My name is Devin Kopech. With me is fellow melting man, Chris Kalani.
00:00:26
28dongslater
That's right, fellas, it's cold out there. Groundhog's
00:00:32
DeeBo
ah fellow Sludger Steve O'Tiri.
00:00:36
Steve-O
We're sludging all night over here because it's a scorcher, baby.
00:00:42
DeeBo
And Clayface himself. John Suarez!
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AssholeSweatlord
Wait, why am I Clayface?
00:00:47
DeeBo
Cause you're melting!
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AssholeSweatlord
Is it because of my...
Movie Adaptations: Clayface and Supergirl
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DeeBo
don't know.
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AssholeSweatlord
Oh, it's not because my...
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DeeBo
Why?
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28dongslater
I think he was, going be honest with you, John.
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AssholeSweatlord
Not because the pigment the pigment of my skin matches Clayface's?
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DeeBo
He can turn in any anything he wants.
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28dongslater
i think I think he was saying you're perpetually melting like every time we see you.
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DeeBo
no listen.
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AssholeSweatlord
I think he was saying I'm brown like Clayface.
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28dongslater
That's what he thinks.
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DeeBo
Clayface...
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AssholeSweatlord
I think that's what he was saying.
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DeeBo
Clayface can, we don't need to go there. Clayface can be whatever he wants to be. Okay.
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28dongslater
Is Clayface brown?
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AssholeSweatlord
in the In the cartoon, he is.
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DeeBo
What color would you call him?
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28dongslater
Yeah. Tan?
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DeeBo
Chris? Tan?
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28dongslater
He looks like he's got a good tan.
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DeeBo
This might be colorblind, Chris speaking.
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28dongslater
That might be colorblind me.
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AssholeSweatlord
ah Speaking of which, they cast the cast Clayface.
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28dongslater
Yes.
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AssholeSweatlord
They said the the movie's going to rated R.
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DeeBo
Yep.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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AssholeSweatlord
Flanman. Flanman horror.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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AssholeSweatlord
It's going to be body horror.
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Steve-O
R for real good.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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AssholeSweatlord
Chris, this might be your movie, dog. Because James Gunn said it's it's actual body horror.
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28dongslater
yeah
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AssholeSweatlord
It's a body body horror movie and it's rated are
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28dongslater
there's so many ah There's so many different adaptations of Clayface that I don't know what the fuck they're going to do.
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Steve-O
Jimmy G said this one's for the freaks.
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28dongslater
Yo, give me it! I'm going to eat it up!
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AssholeSweatlord
It's for those Diddy Freak Off parties. That's what he said.
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28dongslater
um You know, since The since the Penguin, i am totally psyched for this. I mean, it's a fucking villain movie.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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AssholeSweatlord
It's the Flan Man, too. Flan Man's doing it.
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Steve-O
Flan man.
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28dongslater
Flynn.
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AssholeSweatlord
They have a script and everything.
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28dongslater
and
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AssholeSweatlord
They're, like, shooting it now, I think.
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28dongslater
Hmm.
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AssholeSweatlord
Oh, I saw another thing that was kind of interesting, too.
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28dongslater
Who's the...
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AssholeSweatlord
When I read the... the um The synopsis for the Supergirl movie that's coming out next year. I think it's based on comic that I think recently came out.
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28dongslater
Oh, yeah?
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AssholeSweatlord
So um I might read it. But apparently Crypto is her dog.
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28dongslater
Interesting.
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DeeBo
Wait, who's dog?
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AssholeSweatlord
And it is Kara's dog. It's Supergirl's dog.
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DeeBo
Oh, Kara. Okay.
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AssholeSweatlord
So that's kind of interesting. You know?
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28dongslater
Is that like part of the canon?
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AssholeSweatlord
Maybe...
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28dongslater
I didn't know that.
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AssholeSweatlord
I don't know. That's what the synopsis for the the movie said, though. like Kara and her dog, Crypto. like you know escape Krypton and make their way to Earth or some bullshit.
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28dongslater
Whoa, that's kind of cool.
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AssholeSweatlord
like it's said Yeah.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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AssholeSweatlord
So maybe that's what connects them.
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DeeBo
Well, you know who else shapeshifts? Mystique.
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28dongslater
Okay, we're starting off?
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AssholeSweatlord
um we're go We're going there!
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28dongslater
We're starting off there already?
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DeeBo
I can't, can I tell you why? Because I just found what I think is is is the photo and I just want to post it right now.
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AssholeSweatlord
Oh, you found the evidence?
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DeeBo
i just want to post it right now.
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AssholeSweatlord
Hold on, let's... Can we...
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DeeBo
No, I know, I'm holding off.
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AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, so...
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28dongslater
yeah let's clarify.
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DeeBo
I'm holding off.
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28dongslater
Let's give some context to what we're talking about here.
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AssholeSweatlord
So a couple minutes a couple of minutes before Steve hit record, I gave Chris the impossible question that All-Star Superman had to answer
Mystique Debate: Romijn vs Lawrence
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DeeBo
Oh, whoa, okay.
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AssholeSweatlord
when when the Egyptian god held Lois' life in danger.
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AssholeSweatlord
And what was that, issue three All-Star Superman? And he said, who is hotter as Mystique, Rebecca Romijn or Jennifer Lawrence?
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DeeBo
Something do like that, yeah.
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28dongslater
And you know, John, I gave it a lot of thought. I really...
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AssholeSweatlord
And you said they surrender.
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DeeBo
You actually did, yeah. You actually did.
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AssholeSweatlord
said they surrender.
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28dongslater
i was sitting, looking at each photo, looking at each frame, each pixel, every nipple, I mean, nipple,
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DeeBo
Yeah?
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AssholeSweatlord
Every pixel of...
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DeeBo
Every scale.
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28dongslater
every butt cheek and butthole that and just accidentally fell out toward filming. And I really came to the conclusion that it is not a more seductive pose that made me make the decision, but it's a very simple one shot ah close up of Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique.
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AssholeSweatlord
Every butthole...
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AssholeSweatlord
Oh,
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28dongslater
And I just, it looks fucking terrible.
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AssholeSweatlord
God!
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DeeBo
a
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AssholeSweatlord
Oh, You just posted it. Yeah, that that's what we were saying. is like When they gave her the suit like ah in the last movie, is like is raw it's pretty rough, dude.
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DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. her last Her last movie is her worst look.
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28dongslater
Look at her forehead. Look what they did to her.
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AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, that's so bad.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, what did they do to beautiful creature, Chris?
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28dongslater
Look what they did to her.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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Steve-O
She got mega mined.
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AssholeSweatlord
what did they do to our beautiful creature
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28dongslater
Like that, she's an objectively attractive woman and they she looks like her head is gigantic.
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AssholeSweatlord
chris
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AssholeSweatlord
and first client leah Look up look up a Mystique first class. Let's see.
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DeeBo
Yeah, no, she's a
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AssholeSweatlord
Let's see what she looks.
Batman Forever and Movie Theaters
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DeeBo
she's an attractive mystique.
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28dongslater
it Yeah, sexy woman and this, it ruined her face. Ruined her face.
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DeeBo
Ruined.
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28dongslater
I think it did. i think this forehead and yellow eyes, like nothing works here.
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DeeBo
Well,
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DeeBo
I mean, Chris, I'll be honest. This is the picture I thought.
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28dongslater
she She looks like Jack Nicholson.
00:05:12
DeeBo
Yeah, Chris, I thought this was the picture that sold it for you. thought it was just.
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AssholeSweatlord
Wait, who's this?
00:05:16
Steve-O
Thank you.
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AssholeSweatlord
Is that Jennifer Lawrence or is that Rebecca Romaine?
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DeeBo
That's Rebecca Romagna. You don't know those grabbers, dude? Come on.
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28dongslater
So in essence, my choice will be Rebecca Romaine Stamos because, or Rebecca Romaine.
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AssholeSweatlord
ah
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DeeBo
Yeah. You're not, this is not what you're into, dude?
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28dongslater
Let's cut the Stamos off. um No, I don't like the forehead.
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DeeBo
look
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28dongslater
don't like the...
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DeeBo
No, you don't, you don't like, you don't like these little
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AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, because I wanted to make it clear, like, try not to make, try not to make you know, nostalgia, like, gunar young Gooner nostalgia, like, take over, you know?
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28dongslater
I love the...
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28dongslater
There's something about her use of her legs, too, Rebecca Romijn, in those movies.
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AssholeSweatlord
Oh, yeah, she's just, like, elegant.
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28dongslater
Like...
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AssholeSweatlord
She moved very elegantly, like ah like a dancer.
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28dongslater
It's, yeah. It felt very, very much like I was watching, A, a very attractive woman do very attractive things, and B, an actual mutant on screen.
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AssholeSweatlord
Like a dancer.
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28dongslater
Like, ah it... She was so attracted that she didn't look human.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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28dongslater
That's kind of where I think.
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DeeBo
It's really good makeup. Yeah.
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28dongslater
Yeah. Yeah. It's really solid makeup. And yeah. Yeah. That's I think. Yeah. I like i I when John asked me that question, like my gut response was Rebecca Romaine.
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28dongslater
Like it was almost immediate, but I had to do my due diligence.
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AssholeSweatlord
yeah to do Yeah, you had to download the data and then and analyze it.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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Steve-O
He did the work.
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DeeBo
But it is crazy.
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28dongslater
As cat it's Captain Gunnar Galani over here, I got to really hone in on this stuff.
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DeeBo
Like, yeah.
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DeeBo
But like, dude, there's a picture of her in Days in Future Past. And then you look at the one whatever the fuck this one was.
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28dongslater
Right.
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DeeBo
The one, Apocalypse or or ah Dark Phoenix, I think.
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28dongslater
She looks very, very attractive.
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DeeBo
And it's...
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28dongslater
Less forehead. The widow's peak still there, but her hair doesn't look ridiculous. Like, it's so much better.
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DeeBo
Oh man, this one's bad too.
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28dongslater
She looks like Jack Torrance at the in the other photo.
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DeeBo
Dude, actually, wait, wait, time out, time out, time out.
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AssholeSweatlord
What are you trying to say about Jack Torrance, though?
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DeeBo
This might be the first one.
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28dongslater
It's a weird...
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Steve-O
Wait, let me see.
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Steve-O
Let me see.
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DeeBo
No, no, no. I'm saying the picture Chris posted. That might be from first class.
00:07:04
Steve-O
ah the picture Chris posted?
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DeeBo
Is that first class?
00:07:06
28dongslater
that I think that is from first class, actually, because she's quite younger.
00:07:07
Steve-O
Wow.
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DeeBo
Okay, so this is because this is the one from like Dark Phoenix, I think.
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AssholeSweatlord
Wow, really?
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28dongslater
looks younger.
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AssholeSweatlord
So it really...
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DeeBo
The one I just posted.
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Steve-O
That's bad, too, though. That doesn't even look like her.
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28dongslater
books
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Steve-O
What?
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28dongslater
it looks better than what I posted.
00:07:20
DeeBo
Yeah, but like you can tell she's like, i'm I'll sit in the makeup chair for three less hours than I ever have looked over here.
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AssholeSweatlord
It looks like, yeah... and
00:07:26
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, for like, yeah.
00:07:26
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:07:27
28dongslater
Yeah, that is true.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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AssholeSweatlord
For an hour.
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28dongslater
there's There's a laziness to this, but there's a like actual failure of of image in the other one.
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Steve-O
Give me a wig.
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28dongslater
like it just They just failed.
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DeeBo
Wow, man, look at us. We were just talking all that shit and then it was it's from first class, I think.
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AssholeSweatlord
the first movie.
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Steve-O
I think you owe an apology.
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DeeBo
Wow.
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DeeBo
Yeah, I guess we do. Yeah.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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28dongslater
To who?
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Steve-O
Movies? Oh.
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28dongslater
Oh, yeah. Sorry, movies. You guys are going to be gone in 20 years anyway.
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DeeBo
Sorry. Sorry, Kino.
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28dongslater
Why? What did i say? why
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Steve-O
a
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28dongslater
Did you guys read that, by the way, when I posted?
00:08:01
DeeBo
What?
00:08:01
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:08:02
DeeBo
Oh, I... You know what? I ignored it. I just put my head in the sand.
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28dongslater
All right.
00:08:07
Steve-O
you you You did what I did with the Fantasy Critic ah little thread and muted it.
00:08:10
DeeBo
Yeah. been I just mute Goani. I'm like, I don't need this shit.
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28dongslater
Most U.S. s exhibition execs think traditional moviegoing has less than 20 years of ah viable as a viable business model.
00:08:24
DeeBo
Yeah.
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28dongslater
20 years, guys.
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DeeBo
Hey, 20 years ain't that.
00:08:27
28dongslater
Yeah, that's not that's not awful. all things And here's here's the big takeaway here and the thing that's it's in quotations.
00:08:29
DeeBo
Considering I fucking hear about the death of movies on a monthly fucking basis now, we'll be lucky to 20 more years.
00:08:35
Steve-O
Just you wait. Just you wait. They're just going to release a Minecraft movie every month, man.
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DeeBo
I'll be dead in 20 years, dude. Are you kidding me?
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28dongslater
Traditional movie going. So what the fuck does that mean? like what What is movie going going to be
00:08:54
DeeBo
Dude, when we have to zip line into our seats, I'm going
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Steve-O
Traditional movie going. You go into a theater, you sit down in a seat and you watch the movie.
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28dongslater
So what is the what is the future?
00:09:00
Steve-O
Now, I think it's those ones where it's like it like lifts your seat up and it like jostles you around.
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AssholeSweatlord
Thank you.
00:09:07
28dongslater
And you feel the alien breathing on your neck like in that one?
00:09:09
Steve-O
Yeah! hey Like, dude.
00:09:10
28dongslater
Universal, all right?
00:09:10
DeeBo
ah i think you guys are talking about the ex-Disney ride Dangerous Encounters or whatever that was called.
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28dongslater
Yeah.
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Steve-O
about Alien Encounter.
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DeeBo
Alien Encounter, that was it, yeah.
00:09:21
Steve-O
Now it's called Leeloo's Gonna Get You or something. Not Stitch.
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28dongslater
Oh, man.
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DeeBo
Leeloo Leeloo's
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Steve-O
Not Stitch, Leeloo.
00:09:29
28dongslater
ah Yeah, you know, maybe a more interactive interactive nature to movies could be the avenue.
00:09:30
DeeBo
Leeloo Lemons Multibaz, yeah.
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28dongslater
They were talking about putting like a like a play pen jungle thing like a McDonald's in movie theaters to bring kids. Maybe that'll be in the theater.
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DeeBo
Yeah, no.
00:09:48
Steve-O
yeah You know what?
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DeeBo
Could you imagine just leaving your kid in a playpen for three hours while you watch a movie?
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28dongslater
ha ha ha!
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Steve-O
I mean, people already do that. That's what they just do in Florida.
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DeeBo
I know. They do it at GameStop, I know.
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Steve-O
they yeah they just...
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28dongslater
Technically speaking, is that better than just slapping an iPad in front of their face? I'm not sure. I can't.
00:10:03
DeeBo
Yeah, at least they're getting exercise and interacting.
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28dongslater
I don't know.
00:10:06
DeeBo
But they're also getting abducted, so that's pretty bad.
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28dongslater
That's true.
00:10:09
Steve-O
If people are going to just fucking act like absolute little beasts when they go see movies now, just lean into the roller coaster theme park part of it. Like if there's like a dramatic point in a movie, just make it like a fucking drop.
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28dongslater
Mm.
00:10:24
Steve-O
Like make make my whole seat drop down.
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28dongslater
Mm.
00:10:26
28dongslater
Okay, well, how about what what about a ah movie experience where people vote on the ending of the movie with their phones?
00:10:35
Steve-O
I, you know, I was a little sucker for when they released on Netflix. What was that called? The Bandersnatch.
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28dongslater
Bandersnatch. Give the bandersnatch.
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AssholeSweatlord
They took that down, right?
00:10:44
Steve-O
That was a ton of fun.
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28dongslater
They did.
00:10:45
Steve-O
They did take that down.
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AssholeSweatlord
They took that down.
00:10:46
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:10:46
28dongslater
They did.
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AssholeSweatlord
Those fucking assholes.
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28dongslater
I'm glad we played that. I'm glad we all...
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DeeBo
I wonder why, too.
00:10:48
AssholeSweatlord
And they're ruining, ruin tearing families apart now by making them fucking out of household account edition.
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DeeBo
I don't know.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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28dongslater
Ugh.
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DeeBo
Oh, yeah.
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28dongslater
Ugh.
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Steve-O
They said you can't share passwords no more.
00:11:00
AssholeSweatlord
Oh man, okay, so Stint, okay, I'm reading this.
00:11:03
DeeBo
Oh, while you're looking at that, can I tell you red flag of the week?
00:11:06
AssholeSweatlord
No, hold on, real quick. This is Stint's answer to J-Law Rebecca Romaine as Mystique.
00:11:07
DeeBo
Okay.
00:11:10
28dongslater
I mean, we're all we're all in the same boat here, I feel like.
00:11:10
DeeBo
Oh.
00:11:14
AssholeSweatlord
ah He says, so my hot take is that I don't think J-Law is that hot. She doesn't do it for me. She really doesn't do it for me as Mystique. She looks so motherfucking uncomfortable at every scene.
00:11:25
DeeBo
Okay.
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AssholeSweatlord
It has to be Romaine.
00:11:27
Steve-O
Well, you know what? Okay. So I think we, are you like you said, we're all in the same boat on this one. It's pride month.
00:11:34
DeeBo
Well, I'm not in the agreement.
00:11:35
Steve-O
I want to kind of switch.
00:11:36
28dongslater
Actually, Steve, you didn't even give me an answer.
00:11:36
Steve-O
i want to switch this one. ah Now, hold on.
00:11:40
Steve-O
No, no, because it's Rebecca Romaine. I don't even know i we're fucking talking about this.
00:11:42
28dongslater
ah you...
00:11:44
DeeBo
yeah Okay. All right. Damn. Damn. All right.
00:11:46
Steve-O
No. All right. All Now, hold on.
00:11:46
DeeBo
Shit. Well,
00:11:47
Steve-O
All right. Because Chris was going like the nipples, the butt cheeks. I want to talk about the fucking Batsuits then. Was it Kilmer or Clooney?
00:11:59
28dongslater
who is the but sexier
00:12:02
Steve-O
Yeah, who who filled out the the nipple Batsuit better?
00:12:03
DeeBo
hold on.
00:12:06
DeeBo
Hold on.
00:12:06
28dongslater
I mean, if you're going who I think is
00:12:06
DeeBo
Now, this is important, though.
00:12:08
AssholeSweatlord
Wait, who's a hot who's the hot who's the hotter who's the hottest Batman, you're saying?
00:12:10
Steve-O
ah who's no no Who's the hotter of the two? um Oh, who's the director of those, Chris?
00:12:17
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, what the fuck?
00:12:18
28dongslater
not Frankenheimer, no. It's Jerry Bruckheimer, right?
00:12:21
DeeBo
No, no, no, no.
00:12:22
Steve-O
ah
00:12:22
28dongslater
No!
00:12:23
DeeBo
It's George Costanzo.
00:12:24
AssholeSweatlord
It's Joel Schumacher.
00:12:25
Steve-O
Schumacher Schumacher yeah yeah who's ah who's the hotter of the two shoemaker Batman
00:12:25
28dongslater
Joel Schumacher!
00:12:25
DeeBo
Don't you like it?
00:12:27
28dongslater
I get those three confused quite a bit.
00:12:34
AssholeSweatlord
ah who Wait, wait, who are it's it's between...
00:12:35
DeeBo
So, but here's the problem is, the problem is, is they have like three, they have like four suits in between them though, right?
00:12:37
Steve-O
Clooney and Kilmer
00:12:37
AssholeSweatlord
It's between George Clooney... It's Kilmer, dude.
00:12:39
28dongslater
Goddamn. It's Kilmer, right?
00:12:41
AssholeSweatlord
It's Kilmer.
00:12:41
28dongslater
It's Kilmer?
00:12:43
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, it's all... Dude, that's when Val...
00:12:44
28dongslater
It's Kilmer.
00:12:45
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, Val Kilmer was still pretty much peak fucking hotness at that point. Like, that's why he was cast.
00:12:50
DeeBo
Wait, hold on, hold on.
00:12:50
28dongslater
He looked like young Elvis like his whole life.
00:12:52
AssholeSweatlord
And I'm gonna go with i'm goingnna go with Stin's answer and say...
00:12:54
Steve-O
Hold on, wait.
00:12:55
AssholeSweatlord
I'm gonna go with Stin's mystique answer and say, George Clooney was never really that hot. Like, you know, I don't think he was.
00:13:00
DeeBo
What?
00:13:02
28dongslater
i agree with I agree with John.
00:13:02
DeeBo
All right, so this is their,
00:13:03
28dongslater
I know i think he's charming.
00:13:03
AssholeSweatlord
He's not... He's not... He's not fucking... He's...
00:13:06
28dongslater
don't think he's hot. i don't think he's high
00:13:08
AssholeSweatlord
here's yeah Yeah, he's charming, but could he play Doc Holliday in Team Stand? No.
00:13:12
28dongslater
Absolutely not.
00:13:13
DeeBo
Actually, I'll be honest.
00:13:13
Steve-O
Hmm.
00:13:13
AssholeSweatlord
Couldn't. No.
00:13:14
DeeBo
Pete Kilmer is when he's in basically the...
00:13:17
AssholeSweatlord
Heat. When he's in Heat.
00:13:19
DeeBo
He's in the in the fucking Keaton vatsuit, dude.
00:13:21
AssholeSweatlord
And Top Gun.
00:13:23
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:13:24
DeeBo
Look at this. He looks like he's in latex and he's ready to fuck. Look at that, dude.
00:13:29
28dongslater
I think, well, I think Batman Forever is the most romantic Batman movie ever made.
00:13:33
DeeBo
Oh, for...
00:13:33
28dongslater
So it makes sense that he's the most attractive, sexy Batman as well.
00:13:33
DeeBo
In a walk. Yeah.
00:13:37
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:13:38
DeeBo
You know who ah probably...
00:13:39
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, man, dude. Yo, I'm sorry, Devin, but, like, Clinty... Clinty looks like a fucking clown in that suit.
00:13:46
DeeBo
yeah
00:13:47
28dongslater
He does.
00:13:48
AssholeSweatlord
and And real talk, yo, real talk...
00:13:48
DeeBo
Well, that's like his fourth suit in that movie, right?
00:13:52
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, that second picture you posted is fucking... he's all Dude, Val Kilmer's aura farming right there. That's aura, dude. I'm sorry, he's got aura.
00:13:57
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:13:58
Steve-O
That's yeah. No, I've I'm, I'm in complete agreement with you.
00:13:59
AssholeSweatlord
He's got aura, dude. He's got aura.
00:14:01
Steve-O
Like, you know,
00:14:02
DeeBo
No, it's Kilmer.
00:14:03
Steve-O
It's Kilmer.
00:14:03
DeeBo
It's Kilmer.
00:14:03
Steve-O
It's Kilmer without a doubt.
00:14:05
DeeBo
Wait.
00:14:05
Steve-O
you You know what?
00:14:05
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
00:14:05
Steve-O
You think Schumacher was like a little disappointed. Like he was like, you know what? I want that. I want that like salt and pepper, hot, sexy doctor to be my Batman. And then he brought them on, put them in the suit and went. and
00:14:15
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, nah, dude.
00:14:15
Steve-O
ah
00:14:17
AssholeSweatlord
I want Daniel... Wait, was this pre or post Ocean's Eleven?
00:14:21
Steve-O
This was pre-Ocean's 11, but it was post-ER.
00:14:22
DeeBo
Oh, wait, yeah.
00:14:24
AssholeSweatlord
Post ER? Oh, so he was like riding the yeah ER high?
00:14:26
28dongslater
And post ah Rise of the Killer Tomatoes.
00:14:29
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, I don't think George Clooney ever, ever had and had a candle to hold to Val Kilmer's aura.
00:14:29
DeeBo
yeah no No, you're right. No, he definitely did.
00:14:36
AssholeSweatlord
Speaking of Batman, real real talk, real quick. Speaking of Batman and speaking of aura, I read the first two issues of Absolute Batman and they are a fucking bomb. Like, you...
00:14:44
28dongslater
Yeah, seriously. Mm-hmm.
00:14:45
AssholeSweatlord
Chris, you gotta read it, dude. It's... Like, the fucking... The... the the Just the... It's a really a drastic change in Bruce's origin.
00:14:53
28dongslater
I heard some of the plot with with Black Mask and and the animals, his gang in the city.
00:15:00
AssholeSweatlord
And they add the party animals?
00:15:00
28dongslater
The party animals.
00:15:01
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
00:15:02
28dongslater
The party animals. That whole thing sounds so fucking awesome. Like, it...
00:15:07
AssholeSweatlord
I mean, it's it's basically...
00:15:07
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:15:08
Steve-O
and This is absolute.
00:15:08
AssholeSweatlord
if It reminds you...
00:15:09
28dongslater
yeah
00:15:10
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, this is absolutely Batman. It kind of ah it kind of like gives me vibes like... Like, if what if they threw Dark Knight Returns at Bruce when he first became Batman? Like, that's that's how the party animals are are kind of like.
00:15:19
28dongslater
Mm-hmm. And he's so um incredibly like efficient, even in the beginning. like he's just
00:15:26
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, dude.
00:15:27
28dongslater
so so And he's like ingenious, too, which is really neat.
00:15:28
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
00:15:31
AssholeSweatlord
And the the the the or the twist on on what they do with the rogues gallery, too, is like, like I'm not even that far in it.
00:15:37
28dongslater
That's really cool.
00:15:39
AssholeSweatlord
But, like, fuck. Yeah, Devin, you gotta read this shit, dude.
00:15:42
DeeBo
I would like to, yeah.
00:15:44
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, he pulls the fucking...
00:15:44
Steve-O
I'm, you know, that app. Very good.
00:15:47
AssholeSweatlord
so He pulls like the bat ears out of his fucking cowl, and they're their' knives.
00:15:53
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, dude.
00:15:54
AssholeSweatlord
And then he puts them back in.
00:15:54
28dongslater
I'm pretty sure somebody just also...
00:15:56
AssholeSweatlord
and his bat And his fucking bat symbol is becomes an axe, dude. He's a fucking... he's Dude, he's he's he's so cool, dude.
00:16:03
DeeBo
Dude, let's be honest.
00:16:03
28dongslater
i
00:16:03
DeeBo
He's just Snyder Batman. Come on.
00:16:05
28dongslater
i read somewhere...
00:16:05
AssholeSweatlord
He's so fat, and he's so cool No, he still doesn't kill, though. He still doesn't kill.
00:16:08
28dongslater
mr i but i think this Absolute line might be my my jam in general because I also read that Absolute Wonder Woman is basically like like a like Dark Souls.
00:16:09
DeeBo
Thanks.
00:16:19
28dongslater
in that like she just, she lived in hell.
00:16:20
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, interesting.
00:16:22
28dongslater
Like that's where she grew up.
00:16:24
AssholeSweatlord
Who wrote that? Is it Azarello?
00:16:25
28dongslater
I don't, I really don't know. That one, i like, I don't know any of the the newer writers.
00:16:28
AssholeSweatlord
Let me see.
00:16:30
28dongslater
I think it's a brand new comic book writer. I've never.
00:16:34
AssholeSweatlord
ah Kelly Thompson, who is... Oh, she wrote Gem and the Holograms. Interesting.
00:16:41
28dongslater
I don't even know what that is
00:16:42
AssholeSweatlord
And Hawkeye.
00:16:43
DeeBo
They're just posting...
00:16:43
28dongslater
I,
00:16:45
DeeBo
Awesome and terrible bat suits now.
00:16:48
AssholeSweatlord
Nah, dude.
00:16:48
DeeBo
I'm locked in.
00:16:49
AssholeSweatlord
Absolute Batman is fucking awesome. i like I think the first arc is the is five issues, so at least you'll at least we'll at least get to...
00:16:52
28dongslater
And
00:16:56
AssholeSweatlord
Because I think they have up to issue nine on the DC and Universe app.
00:16:59
28dongslater
and I just kind of spoiled myself a bit looking at some of the villains and they're just, they're just the stuff of nightmares.
00:17:06
AssholeSweatlord
Man.
00:17:06
28dongslater
guess.
00:17:06
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, I mean... ah yeah ah Allegedly, like apparently, like ah since umm since like we're all out of the loop, like apparently Scott Snyder stopped writing Batman for a while before he jumped onto this. That's what I read.
00:17:18
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:17:18
AssholeSweatlord
So he was like off of Batman for a while.
00:17:20
28dongslater
He must have got burnt out.
00:17:20
AssholeSweatlord
And then he came back.
00:17:20
DeeBo
Which is good.
00:17:22
28dongslater
He must have got burnt out.
00:17:22
AssholeSweatlord
yeah and then he came back to do this.
00:17:22
Steve-O
They were making him churn out so much Batman.
00:17:22
DeeBo
How do you not, dude? Yeah.
00:17:25
28dongslater
He wrote that end of the world Batman story and I just think that that was him like, alright, I need to end this.
00:17:25
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, he wrote...
00:17:29
Steve-O
Did he write? He wrote the metal one, right? The one that had ah the Joker who laughs.
00:17:34
28dongslater
Oh no.
00:17:34
DeeBo
Dude, so so he was writing, yeah, he wrote like Justice League Metal or Batman Metal and it was so bad, I quit.
00:17:36
28dongslater
The Batman Who Laughs.
00:17:37
AssholeSweatlord
did Court
00:17:37
Steve-O
The Batman who laughs.
00:17:38
AssholeSweatlord
He did Court of Owls. the court of ows
00:17:42
Steve-O
Black Mirror, not Black Mirror.
00:17:42
28dongslater
i mean
00:17:43
Steve-O
What was it called?
00:17:44
28dongslater
The Batman Who Laughs is probably one of the worst worst adaptations of Batman I've ever seen my life. Like I've read some of that just to see how bad it was.
00:17:53
AssholeSweatlord
What is it called? Death of the Family.
00:17:55
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:17:55
28dongslater
That is so atrociously awful.
00:17:58
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, The Batman Who Laughs. That one. I didn't even read that.
00:18:00
28dongslater
Oh, it was bonkers.
00:18:00
AssholeSweatlord
I heard it was so bad. But his but like his fucking his run on...
00:18:03
28dongslater
Stupid.
00:18:05
AssholeSweatlord
Was it Detective Comics? The the one that he did where or Dick was Batman?
00:18:10
DeeBo
Yeah. No, no, great.
00:18:11
AssholeSweatlord
Like, that shit is godlike.
00:18:11
DeeBo
No, I'll be honest. Scott Snyder has done some phenomenal bad Batman stuff.
00:18:16
Steve-O
It was Black Mirror. Yeah.
00:18:19
DeeBo
He really has. I like Year Zero. That's the one with, like, the Riddler where it's, like, kind of, like, the world fucking ends a little bit.
00:18:26
28dongslater
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:26
DeeBo
Like, I like that a lot.
00:18:27
28dongslater
I don't know. Do you? Do you?
00:18:28
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, Black Mirror, Steve.
00:18:29
DeeBo
I do. I do.
00:18:30
AssholeSweatlord
That's what it was.
00:18:30
28dongslater
Is that where he's carrying around the Joker's head in like a lantern?
00:18:31
Steve-O
and
00:18:34
DeeBo
No, that's the one where he's, like, on a fucking motorcycle. He's on, like, a dirt bike.
00:18:37
28dongslater
Oh, maybe I'm thinking else.
00:18:38
DeeBo
And, like, it's, like, the Riddler...
00:18:38
Steve-O
The one with the head is the one where it's like they tricked Bruce Wayne into thinking he was crazy and never a Batman or something.
00:18:45
DeeBo
Oh, see, that's a thought I've never read. Yeah, there's there's definitely.
00:18:48
28dongslater
Are you sure? thought that was the end of the world one.
00:18:50
Steve-O
It is an end of the world one. You're right.
00:18:51
28dongslater
Oh, it is.
00:18:52
Steve-O
Cause, cause they pull, they pull him out of there and he's like holding Joker's head and Joker's like his, like, um, uh, who's the head from, uh, yeah, yeah.
00:18:52
28dongslater
it is.
00:18:52
DeeBo
Okay.
00:18:52
28dongslater
Okay.
00:18:58
28dongslater
He's like talking on
00:19:00
Steve-O
the he's He's doing the Kratos with the head in his mirror sort of thing.
00:19:03
28dongslater
on. That's right.
00:19:04
DeeBo
Really?
00:19:05
28dongslater
That's right.
00:19:05
DeeBo
Jesus.
00:19:05
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:19:05
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:07
28dongslater
I read that and I was like, what? This guy is burnt out. ah He's got no more ideas.
00:19:10
DeeBo
Oh. Wow, yeah, that is... that is i yeah All I can really tell you is I tried to read like Batman Metal and I couldn't get through like the second issue.
00:19:20
28dongslater
Yeah, me too.
00:19:22
DeeBo
And I was like, this is Scott Snyder.
00:19:23
28dongslater
That was bad.
00:19:24
DeeBo
like This is my guy.
00:19:24
28dongslater
Really bad. really bad
00:19:26
DeeBo
And I was like, this is terrible.
Superman Critique and Comic Collecting
00:19:29
DeeBo
It hurt my feelings.
00:19:29
28dongslater
But, absolute, man. I think there're they're they're cooking with fire, man. ah Most of those books sound amazing.
00:19:36
DeeBo
Yeah, I mean...
00:19:37
28dongslater
And everybody's
00:19:37
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, i didn't I didn't touch Superman. I didn't touch Absolute Superman yet, but mean, I heard that one was good.
00:19:42
DeeBo
You've been reading too much other Superman?
00:19:44
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, i don't know if i want I don't know if I want to read Absolute Superman yet because it's so drastically different than... kind of want to like ride my Superman vibe until the movie comes out, like my traditional Superman vibe.
00:19:55
DeeBo
Right.
00:19:56
28dongslater
Do you know what I read about Absolute Superman? I read this one blurb and it was about his family, about Jor-El in this universe. And theyre they he's not a scientist.
00:20:09
28dongslater
He's a minor and they're like working class and they're called the Men of Steel, like his family.
00:20:15
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, that's interesting.
00:20:15
Steve-O
Oh.
00:20:15
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:20:16
28dongslater
And I read that and I was like, cool.
00:20:17
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, fucking Jason. Dude, Jason Aaron wrote this, too.
00:20:19
28dongslater
That's really, I know.
00:20:21
AssholeSweatlord
So it's like, holy shit.
00:20:24
28dongslater
That's neat.
00:20:24
AssholeSweatlord
They really... ah I mean, it's Jason Aaron, right?
00:20:27
DeeBo
yeah
00:20:27
AssholeSweatlord
Dude's a fucking legend.
00:20:31
28dongslater
I got it.
00:20:31
AssholeSweatlord
But...
00:20:31
28dongslater
I got it.
00:20:32
AssholeSweatlord
um
00:20:32
28dongslater
I got to dig into this. I'm, I'm, I just wouldn't spoil myself with YouTube videos. I got to read this shit.
00:20:38
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, stop doing that.
00:20:39
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:20:39
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, read it. Yeah, because I just started issue three of Absolute Batman. I'm like super into it. like I think it's really good. um But I read, um and Devin, you also read All-Star Superman.
00:20:52
AssholeSweatlord
We did our rereads this week.
00:20:52
DeeBo
Yeah, I read them.
00:20:54
Steve-O
I've been, I've been slowly starting. Like, you know, I,
00:20:56
DeeBo
can i Can I tell you?
00:20:56
AssholeSweatlord
Okay, what issue you get up to?
00:20:57
DeeBo
yeah
00:20:58
Steve-O
I got to issue two, but I was like, it was really me just testing out the like the DC Universe app.
00:21:02
AssholeSweatlord
The app. Yeah.
00:21:04
Steve-O
I haven't signed up for it, like for the premium one that you guys got. I was just using the free. But like you can read that entire comic for free.
00:21:12
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:12
Steve-O
But you have to do the the DC Go version, which is kind of nice. If I'm like on my phone, I'm just like in the bathroom. I can like scroll and they they kind of display the comic pretty, pretty smartly.
00:21:21
AssholeSweatlord
Are you talking about like, the guided view the guide of view thing?
00:21:23
Steve-O
Yeah, it's not bad to just kind of roll on my phone.
00:21:24
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, dude. Yeah, but it's kind of it kind of fucks it. Like, if the text is on the very top...
00:21:28
Steve-O
Yeah, there's definitely splash panels where it's like they tilt the entire thing and I'm like, yeah.
00:21:34
AssholeSweatlord
I made sure I read, like, the real, like, the real ah real like like I read, I think up to issue three or four of also Superman on my phone. And then once I got to issue six, which is the pop can't issue.
00:21:50
Steve-O
and
00:21:51
AssholeSweatlord
was like, I moved to the iPad. I'm like, I gotta, I gotta fucking, gotta lock.
00:21:54
Steve-O
Yeah, you got to show you got to show the appreciation for what they did.
00:21:54
AssholeSweatlord
I gotta lock in. I gotta lock in. Yeah.
00:21:59
DeeBo
can i can i tell you i
00:21:59
Steve-O
It
00:21:59
AssholeSweatlord
And like that, that's when the, that's when the series like fucking really picks up too.
00:22:02
Steve-O
ah pops, yeah.
00:22:03
DeeBo
yeah i uh i fucking i went on a journey dude so i wanted all stars to i wanted to buy the physical book because i was like i have the issues but i don't have like the trade well so this is what yeah this is what happened is uh i want to support my local comic book store so i find
00:22:13
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, Absolute All-Star Superman is $67 on Amazon. I bought it. I didn't even open it.
00:22:21
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, you don't want to support Amazon like me? you don't want to be an Amazon boy like me?
00:22:24
DeeBo
but So I find two comic book stores locally on my lunch break.
00:22:25
AssholeSweatlord
Oh,
00:22:30
DeeBo
I go to one. It's a hole in the wall. They don't have anything. They did have Superman Doomsday by Dan Juergens, which is not just the Doomsday one.
00:22:39
AssholeSweatlord
oh wow. Wow.
00:22:41
DeeBo
It's like the one where he's he fights Doomsday and wins, quote unquote. So I buy that because I feel guilty.
00:22:47
AssholeSweatlord
Wow, that that's important. That's important to read.
00:22:50
DeeBo
No, hold on. Yeah, it is. It is. So I go to a second comic book store. They don't have anything. I just quit. Then I'm like, all right, dude, dude, I know.
00:22:58
AssholeSweatlord
yout have yeah like They should be fully stocked on Superman shit right now. like I don't understand.
00:23:02
DeeBo
Listen. Also in the second comic book store, in the second comic book store, there was this guy talking to this woman at the register who like apparently buys and like sells comic books.
00:23:03
AssholeSweatlord
so I'm sorry. I'm sorry, small businesses, but
00:23:14
DeeBo
And it was going exactly how you would think if you were very stereotypical. And I was like I'm leaving this situation. I don't want to be a part of this. So I leave. So the next day, i'm like, you know what? If I can't support a local comic book store, I'll support a Barnes & Noble still books.
00:23:30
DeeBo
Go in there. they don't They have an all-star Superman, but it's really tiny. It's like a manga size.
00:23:34
AssholeSweatlord
Oh yeah, they they released like a a little baby version of it recently.
00:23:36
DeeBo
Yeah. And I go, I can't. I can't do this.
00:23:39
AssholeSweatlord
No, no, you can't buy that.
00:23:39
DeeBo
so But what I do buy is I buy the Jeff John Superman Origins book, Secret Origins, because I really like that.
00:23:40
AssholeSweatlord
You can't buy that shit.
00:23:44
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, Secret Origin?
00:23:47
DeeBo
And I was like, oh, I can read that.
00:23:47
AssholeSweatlord
No, that's a really good Superman story.
00:23:49
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:23:49
AssholeSweatlord
that's actually a really good superman
00:23:49
DeeBo
Yeah. And then, and then I fucking broke it.
00:23:51
AssholeSweatlord
story
00:23:52
DeeBo
I broke. And then I just fucking go on Amazon and I just order a hard, not the $64 one. Right. But I order like
00:23:58
28dongslater
ah sorry it's sorry Sorry to interrupt here.
00:23:58
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, you didn't get the absolute?
00:24:01
28dongslater
Breaking news. We're all dogpiling on Tim because he thinks George Clooney is hotter than Val Kilmer. Just wanted to throw that out there.
00:24:06
AssholeSweatlord
and Okay, i i will I will take care of this later.
00:24:11
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:11
AssholeSweatlord
i hold i will put the dog down later, Chris.
00:24:14
Steve-O
This another X3 situation happening right here.
00:24:14
DeeBo
yeah
00:24:14
AssholeSweatlord
After... after Yeah, after...
00:24:17
DeeBo
It's just an extra situation.
00:24:20
AssholeSweatlord
Let's get through the episode first, and then I'll put and then'll put our dog down.
00:24:21
28dongslater
sorry.
00:24:21
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:24:21
28dongslater
um i just...
00:24:24
28dongslater
I had to like... ah
00:24:24
AssholeSweatlord
Our sick dog.
00:24:25
DeeBo
yeah But basically, yeah, long story to short, is as I fucking had to go on Amazon, I bought the hardcover, and then I sat in my little reading chair yesterday, and I just fucking read all of it in one sitting.
00:24:26
AssholeSweatlord
I'll put our sick dog down.
00:24:26
28dongslater
ah Excuse me.
00:24:36
AssholeSweatlord
Oh man, yeah, you you read all of it. That's awesome.
00:24:38
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:24:38
AssholeSweatlord
You read all of it.
00:24:38
DeeBo
And I was like, wow, those shoes are really fucking good.
00:24:40
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, it's so good, right?
00:24:42
DeeBo
Like, and I'm like, yeah, and I'm not saying, like,
00:24:43
AssholeSweatlord
It's like really good. i knew it was really good before when we when I reread it a couple years ago and then like, maybe it was like three or four years ago when I reread it and then, but because we we were reading we were reading that book when it was being published since the first issue, I remember.
00:24:48
DeeBo
wow
00:25:00
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing, like, not to not to, like, give ourselves the cred, but, like, we read it way back when.
00:25:00
AssholeSweatlord
It's been a while.
00:25:07
DeeBo
But it had been a minute since I reread it.
00:25:07
AssholeSweatlord
We were we were waiting we were waiting three months between issues sometimes for that shit to come out.
00:25:11
DeeBo
Yeah. And, yeah, no, it's...
00:25:15
28dongslater
This thing just, and it starts off so kooky and it just doesn't end. Like it's, oh no, disagree.
00:25:19
DeeBo
Almost a little too kooky. I was like, wow, this is more goofy than I remembered.
00:25:23
AssholeSweatlord
Nah, it's kooky. kooky enough. No, because it's like... no because You know what it is, though? like It's really like just like... Grant Morrison does not hold back when he's homaging Silver Age Superman.
00:25:35
AssholeSweatlord
like He really...
00:25:35
DeeBo
No, he does not.
00:25:36
AssholeSweatlord
touches everything and it's a really show it really shows how much of a fucking sicko weirdo nerd grant morrison is when it comes to play because who who fanboys over silver age superman like create pre pre
00:25:36
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:25:47
Steve-O
this is the same man who brought in Batman of Raza. What was it? Zurnar.
00:25:52
AssholeSweatlord
during our batman but it's like it's so like um even down to the jimmy olsen adventures and shit too like grant morrison is like
00:25:52
28dongslater
Zoranar.
00:25:52
DeeBo
yeah
00:25:52
Steve-O
He brought him back.
00:25:58
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:26:02
AssholeSweatlord
this you can't tell you can't tell anyone that he doesn't know his shit, you know, and that he's not a nerd and that and that he's not a nerd about this stuff.
00:26:06
Steve-O
Right.
00:26:09
AssholeSweatlord
Because he really is. Like, you can really tell.
00:26:11
Steve-O
I guarantee you him and Mark Wade like literally probably sat down for hours and just like talked history of comics for like a long time.
00:26:11
28dongslater
fuck me.
00:26:11
AssholeSweatlord
um
00:26:18
AssholeSweatlord
yeah mar yeah don't even Yeah, I don't even want to know what Mark but mark Wade's fucking mind palace is like when it comes to this shit.
00:26:21
Steve-O
The historian and.
00:26:26
Steve-O
Yeah, the chaos magician.
00:26:27
28dongslater
That ah tripping scene in the beginning, i was i was just like, agree I read the first two issues and I just read, looked at that for like five minutes.
00:26:29
AssholeSweatlord
But it's just interesting. Oh, yeah.
00:26:31
Steve-O
hmm.
00:26:31
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
00:26:38
28dongslater
Like him tripping over himself on the papers, catching the coffee cup, putting it back on the table, then stepping onto another sheaf of papers to slide into the office before he gets fired.
00:26:38
DeeBo
Thank you.
00:26:42
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:26:51
28dongslater
Like it is the goofiest shit.
00:26:53
AssholeSweatlord
No, but like, and that's the thing, like, we never, especially when we were reading comics at that time, too, like, we were reading it, like, fucking neck deep into post-Crisis Superman, post-New 52 Superman 2, and it's like, you don't you don't ever see Clark Kent being a drastically, dramatically different character than Superman ever.
00:27:14
28dongslater
Yep.
00:27:14
AssholeSweatlord
and the And the way way Frank Quitely draws him and the way Graham Morrison writes him, it's like, they are like two completely different characters two completely different people in the story. And it's really amazing.
00:27:27
AssholeSweatlord
I love it. I really love the Clark Kent Superman dynamics.
00:27:29
28dongslater
None of his suits fit. like look at Good lord. What a mess.
00:27:33
AssholeSweatlord
I love it, dude.
00:27:34
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:27:35
AssholeSweatlord
I love him.
00:27:35
28dongslater
it's I do too. A goof.
00:27:40
AssholeSweatlord
love it. And I love the fact that Lois still kind of is in denial, like throughout the whole time, like about whether like she,
00:27:46
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:27:49
AssholeSweatlord
Like, once Superman tells her she still doesn't 100% believe him because ah I guess up'll but up until that point, she's been trying to prove that they were the same.
00:27:58
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:27:58
AssholeSweatlord
and he kept be And he kept beating her. What did he say? What was the one thing, like, that super like Batman stood in as him? that super bit Like, how does how does that work?
00:28:05
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:28:07
AssholeSweatlord
Like, what the fuck? I love it. Yeah, that's the... But the the issue, like, the podcast issue, obviously, is the one that always remembered, right? But, like,
00:28:17
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:28:18
AssholeSweatlord
Issue 10, like, I don't know if we, if I appreciated the 10th issue as much as I did this time around. And I know we always talk about the, you know, the Regan, him saving Regan, the suicide notes scene.
00:28:33
AssholeSweatlord
But that's like literally like, well, that's only one page. And granted, like, that's why it's so impactful, I think, because it's only one page and in an epic story. But like, if you look at all the other shit that's going on in that issue, it's like, it's really like an amazing masterpiece of an issue.
00:28:46
28dongslater
Yeah, I'm looking at it right now, actually.
00:28:48
AssholeSweatlord
He creates a pocket universe. A pocket universe to see how the world would be if Superman didn't exist and and proves to himself that the world does need Superman, which is like so like meta and like like kind of gives me chills too a little bit because like um because even if somebody has to create him you know fictionally in that, in the in you know granted, our universe where Superman doesn't actually exist, you still need him, which is like
00:29:17
28dongslater
God, that scene with legs spitting on the glass.
00:29:19
AssholeSweatlord
Which is really awesome. so
00:29:19
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:29:19
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:29:20
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, dude, I love that shit.
00:29:20
28dongslater
Oh my good God!
00:29:21
AssholeSweatlord
Nah, I love it. Nah, because he still gives them he still gives him another shot.
00:29:24
28dongslater
What is...
00:29:26
AssholeSweatlord
He's just like, listen, you got a couple weeks left. Can you like it, dude? I don't know, man. like I really love this Lex, too, because he just... like And you kind of wonder, too, if Superman didn't exist, like would Lex actually be a good person?
00:29:43
28dongslater
No, of course not.
00:29:43
AssholeSweatlord
you know
00:29:45
AssholeSweatlord
You know? I mean, you it makes you wonder, though. All the stuff he... you know Because it's like he can't, you know, that's just how that's how some of our world leaders are right now, too. It's like you would think.
00:29:54
28dongslater
Oh my god.
00:29:55
Steve-O
and
00:29:57
28dongslater
If they weren't so focused on hating one group, would they actually be good people?
00:29:57
AssholeSweatlord
Man. On themselves. Oh, yeah.
00:30:01
28dongslater
And the answer is always no.
00:30:03
Steve-O
No, it's not.
00:30:04
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
00:30:05
DeeBo
Thank you.
00:30:07
AssholeSweatlord
But yeah, is issue 10 is like, man, I was just like, wow, this is like.
00:30:13
AssholeSweatlord
I don't know how he does it. I don't know Graham Morrison does it, man.
00:30:17
28dongslater
He's got a mind for rec recreating characters.
00:30:20
AssholeSweatlord
I gotta be, I gotta read Kingdom Come.
00:30:20
28dongslater
Like... refreshing them.
00:30:23
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:30:23
28dongslater
Grant Morrison is the guy that comes over to your couch and flush your pillows because, you know, they're looking a little saggy, you know, like he, he gets these characters, he puts them in the strangest situations possible, but they are so much more of themselves in these situations than they will ever be in any other normal situation. Like the craziness of most of the shit that Superman has to deal with in this, it just brings his character out even more.
00:30:51
28dongslater
Like he's even brighter because of it, you know? And that's really what I think is the the shine of this book. It's just, it's weird, terrible situations that Superman kind of looks at with very little to know of Plum and just deals with things the best way he can.
00:31:08
AssholeSweatlord
yeah
00:31:10
28dongslater
Like that's, man, if that doesn't get you feeling good, he's consistently the underdog in a lot of these situations too. you read this,
00:31:19
AssholeSweatlord
Even though he's significantly overpowered at this point, too.
00:31:21
28dongslater
Of course.
00:31:22
AssholeSweatlord
like
00:31:22
Steve-O
Uh-huh.
00:31:23
28dongslater
Of course.
00:31:23
AssholeSweatlord
he's always He's always behind still. like it's always like he's he's got He's always got catch up.
00:31:25
28dongslater
It's.
00:31:28
28dongslater
I think that's the key for figuring out Superman is to always put him on the back foot in some way.
00:31:33
AssholeSweatlord
yeah
00:31:33
28dongslater
And it's hard to do that unless you're really creative.
00:31:36
AssholeSweatlord
No, but it's like it's like it's like the same – like, you see the same old shit, too, and it's like it's so weird now because, like, everybody has such a warped view of what Superman is now because of the of the Snyder shit.
00:31:46
DeeBo
Oh.
00:31:47
AssholeSweatlord
But it's like now, like, even more people are, like – they feel even – like, they feel vindicated by saying that Superman is boring because he's, like, a god and blah, blah, blah. Like, and Snyder just –
00:31:57
28dongslater
no there's so many weaknesses here.
00:31:59
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, and like this and like the sny the Snyder verse version of them like really just magnified that you know and like makes it even like make gives them even more of of an excuse to to you know not give Superman a shot.
00:31:59
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:32:02
Steve-O
no
00:32:12
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:32:12
AssholeSweatlord
you know it's like And it's really sad.
00:32:14
28dongslater
They never really put him in situations that necessarily, or mean, Zack Snyder didn't, that necessarily brought on the hopeful nature of his character. And that's the sad part of it all.
00:32:26
28dongslater
Like you're, you're,
00:32:26
AssholeSweatlord
Well, I mean, that's, I mean, it starts with the, the, the Kent's, right?
00:32:29
28dongslater
Yeah, does.
00:32:30
AssholeSweatlord
And when Pa Kent is just like a fucking negative Nancy that has no faith in humanity at all, right?
00:32:30
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:32:37
AssholeSweatlord
And just like, you can't, like, you don't preserve life over your secret identity or blah, blah, blah. Like, you really, it really.
00:32:44
28dongslater
He was taught wrong.
00:32:45
Steve-O
Yeah. He was like, Hey, maybe you shouldn't save those children in that bus.
00:32:47
DeeBo
Thank you.
00:32:50
AssholeSweatlord
but but like, but like. Like, that's one of the things that, like, stick out. And, ah like, a lot of the Snyder people and stuff is just, like, they they just say, like, oh, well, you know, like, that's, he didn't have a choice. Like, but it's like, dude, it was written like that.
00:33:05
28dongslater
Yeah, exactly.
00:33:05
Steve-O
Man of Steel Superman is the equivalent of Rob Zombie's Halloween Michael Myers.
00:33:06
AssholeSweatlord
You know?
00:33:10
28dongslater
Oh, yes.
00:33:11
Steve-O
Like his family is like the most like fucked up. Because like is that I'm trying to remember is that Batman v Superman where there's the story about like herding the sheep into the fucking flooding water or something.
00:33:24
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, where he sees his he sees his dead dad on a mountain, and then he has, like, a conversation with him, and you think it's going to be somewhat, like, motivating or uplifting?
00:33:35
DeeBo
He's just like, yeah, I was eating cake while all the horses drowned in the neighbor's yard.
00:33:39
Steve-O
That's it.
00:33:40
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:40
DeeBo
And it was like, what the?
00:33:42
AssholeSweatlord
It's like, what? Like, what are you writing?
00:33:42
DeeBo
Even your stupid ghost, even your ghost is a miserable sack of shit, dude.
00:33:44
AssholeSweatlord
What are you writing? Yeah, what yeah what character well what character is this, you know? And it's like, and it's so crazy because that...
00:33:51
DeeBo
Yeah. Just stacking rocks by his ghost. Oh, so dumb.
00:33:56
AssholeSweatlord
now so Now silly Superman with with emotion and and and light humor is like is the is is a step down, is a downgrade. And it's like, what? Like, look what you did, Zack Snyder.
00:34:08
AssholeSweatlord
Like, what look what you thought you what you have done.
00:34:10
28dongslater
Why can't we just have Superman sitting there eating a pretzel?
00:34:11
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:34:13
28dongslater
Why does it always have to be a situation where he's in handcuffs or he's dealing with some threat?
00:34:15
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, why can't he just be chill?
00:34:18
28dongslater
Like there, there needs to be these off moments that never happen that make him seem relatable in the man of steel.
00:34:23
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:34:25
28dongslater
Like it never happens. He's working at what, what, like, what was he doing on an oil rig or something?
00:34:30
Steve-O
Yeah, he was working in oil rig.
00:34:31
DeeBo
Bye.
00:34:32
28dongslater
Like how much like the over the top blue collar job could you get in a situation like that? Like it is so it's pouring it on like, oh, he's just one of the guys.
00:34:43
AssholeSweatlord
yeah
00:34:45
28dongslater
Like it's it's nonsense. It's it's machoistic bullshit is what it is.
00:34:49
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:34:52
28dongslater
And that's never what Superman was.
00:34:52
AssholeSweatlord
nah and like and it's like it's so it's so weird that they're like that they're that the people are like oh well it makes sense that he killed zog because then he'll never kill again and it's like how does that make any sense at all like like
00:34:54
28dongslater
Never.
00:35:03
28dongslater
No, killing anybody ever is always awful. Like, even if it's the first time.
00:35:06
AssholeSweatlord
You know, it's like, like why does he need why does he need to kill Zod to know that he should never kill?
00:35:06
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:11
AssholeSweatlord
like I just don't understand that. like It just doesn't make any sense to me.
00:35:14
28dongslater
Well, it's it's the same group of people that seem to think that Batman is an inferior character because he doesn't kill people. Like, that is an argument. I mean, it started very early 2000-ish. I've been hearing that stuff.
00:35:27
28dongslater
And then it's always that.
00:35:27
AssholeSweatlord
It's really shitty, dude.
00:35:29
28dongslater
And it makes you like, well, he wants to be better than the people he's putting away. Like he's he has a code and people don't understand that anymore.
00:35:35
Steve-O
yeah
00:35:38
Steve-O
No, they don't.
00:35:39
28dongslater
They don't think of principles and ethics and morality. It's just answer, figure out the the quickest route to the the the answer to the problem.
00:35:44
DeeBo
Thank you.
00:35:49
Steve-O
Hey, why is it? Why is it every hero to punish her?
00:35:53
28dongslater
Yeah, right? Like we have those guys too.
00:35:54
AssholeSweatlord
I just don't understand it, dude.
00:35:56
28dongslater
Like they already exist.
00:35:56
AssholeSweatlord
Like, it really... i don't understand... Like, I just...
00:36:00
Steve-O
it's this nightmare or like objectivist, like take on Superman where it's like, because he's better than like, cause he's, you know, he is Superman that like, he doesn't need to like worry about anything else.
00:36:01
AssholeSweatlord
It's so crazy, dude.
00:36:05
28dongslater
Kind of a cynical, too.
00:36:14
AssholeSweatlord
Wait, so here, hold on let me Let me ask Devin the impossible question, then, right now.
00:36:18
DeeBo
Okay.
00:36:19
AssholeSweatlord
Who got the character... Who... got the character like What got the character worse? like who Who wrote the character worse? what's it Was it Man of Steel and Batman v Superman?
00:36:26
DeeBo
Okay.
00:36:30
AssholeSweatlord
Or was it the Amazing Spider-Man series of movies? Who got it more wrong?
00:36:35
DeeBo
Oh, man.
00:36:35
Steve-O
Or was it J-Law's mystique?
00:36:38
28dongslater
With a big ass forehand.
00:36:38
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, I had to do it.
00:36:38
Steve-O
but
00:36:39
AssholeSweatlord
I gotta do it.
00:36:42
AssholeSweatlord
Because like...
00:36:42
DeeBo
Man. I mean, it's just.
00:36:44
AssholeSweatlord
Because I was there... Dude, I i remember seeing... like i don't know if you felt the same way seeing Man of Steel with me. But I remember watching Amazing Spider-Man with you and hearing you grumble during the most the most ridiculous shit that that came out of that movie was like like made the movie made the movie enjoyable to me.
00:36:57
DeeBo
d
00:37:02
28dongslater
Oh, the American flag team.
00:37:06
DeeBo
um
00:37:06
AssholeSweatlord
It made the movie enjoyable to me.
00:37:08
Steve-O
You made it better.
00:37:10
AssholeSweatlord
Because you were just like, oh my god, dude.
00:37:10
DeeBo
Yeah, no, no, that's, that's tough.
00:37:11
AssholeSweatlord
you could hear You could hear Devin's disappointment like in everything.
00:37:15
Steve-O
To be fair though, John, you did make Man of Steel better by throwing your fucking ass.
00:37:18
DeeBo
I mean, yeah. Yeah.
00:37:22
AssholeSweatlord
God damn, dude.
00:37:24
28dongslater
but
00:37:24
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:37:25
AssholeSweatlord
that's actually kind of That's actually kind of insane that that i that I actually threw my fucking hat. like I was actually that mad.
00:37:29
Steve-O
ah
00:37:30
28dongslater
You didn't even... you ah Mark Waid walked out, man. like he He knew better.
00:37:35
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, you do you understand how fucking how justified I felt like when I read that that blurb from Mark Waid about that?
00:37:35
28dongslater
He was even stronger.
00:37:37
Steve-O
yeah
00:37:43
AssholeSweatlord
like I was just like, well, thank God.
00:37:44
28dongslater
Crazy guy in theater.
00:37:46
AssholeSweatlord
was like, ill say thank God. like The fucking the DC historian... felt the same way, so I'm justified in my feelings for this, that I hated this.
00:37:57
DeeBo
Yeah, that's that's crazy.
00:37:58
28dongslater
Oh. and We're getting a dose of mouthwash with Superman. That's coming out in July.
00:38:02
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:38:03
AssholeSweatlord
ah Well, we'll see.
00:38:03
28dongslater
so Oh, shut up.
00:38:04
AssholeSweatlord
I mean, dude, what if he just fucking starts snapping Nax in the middle of it? Like, like what if that just fucking happens, dude?
00:38:09
28dongslater
That won't happen. Never.
00:38:14
AssholeSweatlord
James is gonna just fucking... There's no way, right?
00:38:17
28dongslater
He's making cracking jokes and stuff. He's having a good time. He's not going snapping necks. I saw the new trailer for the finals.
00:38:23
AssholeSweatlord
I don't know, dude.
00:38:24
Steve-O
o a literal act break where he snaps a neck
00:38:25
28dongslater
He's like, he's like, Somebody's calling for help and he's like, I'm kind of dealing with my own stuff over here right now. Like that's that's what you want from a Superman guys.
00:38:33
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, yeah.
00:38:37
AssholeSweatlord
you know You know what they're saying about that shit, Chris? They're saying, oh, that's just Star-Lord. Why did James Gunn turn him into Star-Lord?
00:38:44
28dongslater
Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:38:46
AssholeSweatlord
that's what That's what it's turned into.
00:38:48
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:38:48
28dongslater
Yeah. He's going to be as big of a fuck up as star Lord. I'll tell you that right now.
00:38:51
AssholeSweatlord
He's not gonna... fee he's not go He's not going to ruin the fucking universe and let Thanos win.
00:38:56
DeeBo
Yeah, he's not going to give Thanos the Infinity Gauntlet. Yeah.
00:38:59
28dongslater
Give that as the affinity gauntlet and lose his girlfriend three separate times.
00:39:01
DeeBo
and The Stone, yeah.
00:39:03
28dongslater
What a loser.
00:39:03
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, man.
00:39:06
DeeBo
yeah i mean, hey, hey.
00:39:06
AssholeSweatlord
I'll tell you, man, though. I'm like i'm in, like, fucking... You know what, Devin? How many Fantastic Four books you pick up in the last week? Just saying, bro.
00:39:15
DeeBo
I got them all. I got them all, dog.
00:39:17
AssholeSweatlord
all Alright, alright. You didn't have All-Star Superman before?
00:39:18
Steve-O
Got him, got him, need him, got him, got him, need him.
00:39:18
DeeBo
yeah
00:39:19
AssholeSweatlord
I'm saying.
00:39:20
DeeBo
No, no, you're right.
00:39:22
AssholeSweatlord
just saying i'm like full deep in this i'm so deep in this superman fever that i i was i've been looking at all-star superman number one graded comics on ebay just for no reason and i'm wondering i wonder if you have the answer to this question why are graded 9.8 comics like like exponentially more money than a 9.6 like how much better could it be you know is it just rarity like there aren't that many that are graded that high
00:39:25
DeeBo
but yeah You know what? You know what? i Yeah.
00:39:47
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:39:52
28dongslater
I like to think of it as like in Breaking Bad, where like, you know,
00:39:56
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, it's like the minuscule, tiniest point points towards perfection make it that much more valuable.
00:40:01
28dongslater
when, ah when
00:40:02
Steve-O
Do they do that in cards? Like the point the point system in there too? Because I know it's like 9, 10, 8.
00:40:07
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, dude. No, cards... I mean, i don't know I honestly don't know how they grade comics, but like cards are like kind of simple. like They grade it on the centering.
00:40:08
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:40:16
Steve-O
Yeah,
00:40:16
AssholeSweatlord
like house center Because there's a lot of stuff that like isn't really in the person's control. like Because you you can't control how they printed it. you know So like,
00:40:25
Steve-O
yeah but like sometimes like if it's a print error, that's like Buko Bucks.
00:40:30
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah. No, and then remember the fucking the the Lord of the Rings card that sold for $2 million? dollars
00:40:35
Steve-O
Oh.
00:40:36
AssholeSweatlord
Like, they were kind of trashing Wizards of the Coast could because the one there's only one in existence, right? And it wasn't a perfect 10. like But it's also like, well, maybe they didn't want it to be a perfect 10 because then it would be easily like duplicated that way. So like that's why they they made it imperfect or whatever.
00:40:56
AssholeSweatlord
I don't know. i don't know how they do comics, but I was just wondering why... 9.6...
00:41:00
Steve-O
It's like staples, I bet, and like a line.
00:41:02
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, 9.6 is like 60 bucks or something that I was looking at, and then...
00:41:06
Steve-O
Waitresses didn't spill water all over it.
00:41:10
DeeBo
a Yeah, and they get mad at me.
00:41:11
AssholeSweatlord
That was awesome.
00:41:14
DeeBo
Jesus Christ, yeah.
00:41:15
Steve-O
Move your fucking book. Move your fucking book. trying to pull your water.
00:41:17
DeeBo
South Jersey waitresses, dude. Diner waitresses, man. They're a whole different breed. What the fuck you doing with
00:41:24
AssholeSweatlord
I can't even imagine... I can't even imagine like how like um how hardcore people have to be now to like still collect single issues. like It's just like... It's crazy to me.
00:41:34
DeeBo
it? It is funny. like I look at that I'm like, oh my god, this is hard.
00:41:38
28dongslater
Probably some old heads.
00:41:38
Steve-O
I remember. Yeah, but like how much space do you have to have?
00:41:40
28dongslater
Some old heads.
00:41:43
Steve-O
Like you've probably rented out a like one of those little storage sheds like to keep your collection at this point.
00:41:44
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
00:41:52
Steve-O
Because I remember just like three, four years of like heavy comic collecting. Dude, we were like running out of space with our collections.
00:41:59
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, and like just bagging bags and boards and like buying them and getting the getting the same exact ones every time too was just like kind of a pain in the ass.
00:42:06
Steve-O
Mm hmm.
00:42:11
28dongslater
I think when I bought three separate issues of the death of Captain America, i'm like, what am I doing?
00:42:11
DeeBo
yeah
00:42:17
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, what am I doing?
00:42:17
Steve-O
ah youre like Oh, dear.
00:42:18
28dongslater
Like, what is this?
00:42:18
Steve-O
I've got a problem.
00:42:18
AssholeSweatlord
Well, no, you know what? though No, because remember they they kind of like Marvel kind of botched that though because they fucking they like they spoiled it on CNN or some shit like that morning.
00:42:24
Steve-O
I didn't get that.
00:42:28
28dongslater
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:29
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:29
AssholeSweatlord
And then, like, people that never even read a comic book before in their lives, like, rushed out to get them all. I remember that was, like, a big thing.
00:42:36
28dongslater
I got lucky. I got lucky. I didn't even have a a folder. Is that what they called it?
00:42:41
AssholeSweatlord
Ollist, or whatever.
00:42:42
28dongslater
A pull list. I just walked in and they they still had them. I was like, oh oo yeah, baby.
00:42:48
AssholeSweatlord
There's, like, there's, like, um, I just, like, there was that, and then, like, the other fond memory, or maybe, i don't even want to say fond memory, but, like, reading What Walking Dead number 33 and my lunch break was like, was like one of those like canon moments in my brain that I'll never forget where I couldn't even finish my launch because it was so gruesome.
00:43:01
28dongslater
yeah
00:43:03
DeeBo
yeah yeah
00:43:11
AssholeSweatlord
What Michonne did.
00:43:11
28dongslater
Shitty spoon, man.
00:43:12
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah. What, yeah. What Michonne did to the fucking mayor was fucking insane, dude.
00:43:17
28dongslater
Yeah, i i don't I don't forget any of it.
00:43:18
AssholeSweatlord
Or the governor. Was it the governor?
00:43:20
28dongslater
It's the governor.
00:43:20
DeeBo
Yeah, the governor, yeah.
00:43:21
AssholeSweatlord
I forget.
00:43:23
28dongslater
Cut his leg off.
00:43:23
AssholeSweatlord
ah
00:43:24
28dongslater
Seared it with an iron.
00:43:25
AssholeSweatlord
And then, like, no like, remember when they they fucking, they made an action, film a machine action figure, and it just included a spoon? And it's just all, and it's just like, oh, if you know, you know. Because, like, only the people that read that issue, like, knew what the significance of, was of including a tiny little spoon with the action figure.
00:43:42
28dongslater
Carb your butthole out. Pop your eyeball out.
00:43:44
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, God.
00:43:48
28dongslater
And why didn't they put that on the show, Devin?
00:43:50
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, Devin, why didn't they?
00:43:50
DeeBo
You know what?
00:43:52
AssholeSweatlord
Instead, we got Durrell and Merle.
00:43:53
DeeBo
No, instead they made the governor like a sympathetic character and it was fucking stupid.
00:43:58
28dongslater
And they made him, tried to make him a sympathetic character with still having a bunch of of tanks full of heads in his house.
00:44:00
AssholeSweatlord
Really? That's what they did?
00:44:02
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:44:04
28dongslater
Like, how do you do that? You can't have it both ways.
00:44:07
AssholeSweatlord
they got, um...
00:44:07
DeeBo
Dude. I don't know. I don't know.
00:44:10
AssholeSweatlord
Well, they got Negan, right? right They at least got Negan right.
00:44:13
DeeBo
I don't know.
00:44:13
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:44:14
DeeBo
I think Megan basically took over the show. and like I know.
00:44:17
28dongslater
He's got his, Devin, he's got his own show coming out.
00:44:19
Steve-O
Yeah, Negan's getting a spinoff.
00:44:19
DeeBo
Yeah, he has his own show now. 2025, dude.
00:44:21
AssholeSweatlord
Is it still Jeffrey Dean Morgan?
00:44:23
DeeBo
yeah
00:44:25
AssholeSweatlord
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. That's actually, like, a really good casting for Negan. I'm not gonna lie.
00:44:28
Steve-O
Aren't they doing a new a new thing called it's like The Last Survivors or something?
00:44:32
DeeBo
The ones who lived or whatever?
00:44:33
28dongslater
ah little the The left behind.
00:44:33
Steve-O
The ones who lived.
00:44:33
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:44:33
Steve-O
Yeah, that's it.
00:44:35
AssholeSweatlord
Did Rick die? Because I know they didn't want to pay him.
00:44:36
DeeBo
No. The ones who live is like about Rick. And he has the... He has the he of robot hand. He has like the...
00:44:43
28dongslater
ah
00:44:44
DeeBo
He's got he's got like the steel hand or whatever.
00:44:45
28dongslater
Army of Darkness.
00:44:47
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:44:47
Steve-O
kind of sick.
00:44:47
AssholeSweatlord
Wait, did they cut his hand off in the show?
00:44:49
28dongslater
but say
00:44:50
DeeBo
At some point he lost his hand.
00:44:50
AssholeSweatlord
Did they ever cut his hand off?
00:44:51
DeeBo
I don't know when.
00:44:52
28dongslater
He lost his hand, but it wasn't. it was in I think it was in that show that Devin's talking about.
00:44:58
DeeBo
Yeah, it was like the first episode or something. Like chopped his hand off.
00:45:00
28dongslater
Yes. Yes.
00:45:02
DeeBo
You know, like literally 15 years too late.
00:45:02
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, um, dead.
00:45:06
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, dude, they just... Walking Dead Dead City is finale just aired. Or some shit.
00:45:12
DeeBo
Yeah, dude, there's too many. i lost all track.
00:45:14
28dongslater
That's all I got, Devin.
00:45:15
AssholeSweatlord
Man, they really...
00:45:16
28dongslater
That's all I got the AMC.
00:45:17
AssholeSweatlord
this is how This is how Robert Kirkman made all of his money so that he could buy DC Comics, right? Wasn't that was an adult in the works?
00:45:24
28dongslater
Well, the guys, I think this is a good segue because I think I know what they're banking off of, and that's 28 years later, the film has released is
00:45:25
AssholeSweatlord
He was planning on buying?
00:45:26
Steve-O
I remember that.
00:45:32
AssholeSweatlord
Hmm...
00:45:34
28dongslater
ah the film that has just been released is a ah
00:45:35
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:45:38
28dongslater
It's not a zombie film. Let's clarify that. It's rage-infected people film. I just want to put that out there because a lot of people say zombie movie, but they're really wrong, and I wanted to put that out there.
00:45:45
AssholeSweatlord
It's like Last of Us, right?
00:45:47
28dongslater
ah Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. It's an infection like anything else. It's a virus. You know, that's fungus. So it does, you know, just trying not split hairs here, but they're not undead.
00:46:01
28dongslater
They're alive.
00:46:01
DeeBo
Can I tell you, I watched 28 Days and 28 Weeks back to back the day before I saw 28 Years.
00:46:02
28dongslater
starve. They starve.
00:46:09
28dongslater
Interesting.
00:46:10
DeeBo
Like a fucking gooner, dude.
00:46:10
28dongslater
Okay. What was your takeaway?
00:46:14
DeeBo
um It was kind of exactly what it was when I saw them way back when.
00:46:18
AssholeSweatlord
Did they age well? Did they both age well?
00:46:20
DeeBo
28 Days, yeah. I think, like, honestly, still great. 28 Weeks was as forgettable as I remember being, which is a weird sentence, but I was like...
00:46:24
28dongslater
Yeah, it's an awesome movie.
00:46:28
AssholeSweatlord
Wow, really?
00:46:30
28dongslater
I will, I will say, i will argue one point in that film and that's the beginning. I think that is quite effective and, and awesome, but.
00:46:37
DeeBo
Yes, but then everything else is...
00:46:39
28dongslater
Everything else is kind of bleh.
00:46:42
DeeBo
It's like I was watching it, like the beginning, right, Chris? And I'm like, wait, I thought Jeremy Renner was was... Was he in a... Am I thinking of a different movie?
00:46:50
28dongslater
Hmm.
00:46:51
DeeBo
And then Jeremy Renner shows up and I was like, oh, that's... All right. And um yeah, no, that movie is just like very, in in my mind, very forgettable.
00:46:58
28dongslater
well but you
00:47:01
DeeBo
And frankly, it seems like it's all but written out by 28 years later.
00:47:08
28dongslater
Well, that's the thing, too, is what what is concurrent with all of them is something we we were just talking about. And that each one starts with like and a scene that has nothing to do or very little to do with the general plot of the film.
00:47:20
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:47:23
28dongslater
So there's always like this gambit scene. you know where they're just introing the world and what has happened. And maybe there is a character that carries over from that. But it's like the end of a movie.
00:47:35
28dongslater
It's like you're watching the end of a film and that's the first scene of the film
28 Days/Weeks Later and Movie Endings
00:47:41
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:47:41
28dongslater
in in twenty the 28 series.
00:47:44
28dongslater
um And they did that in 28 years later as well. um There's a scene in the beginning and it's just like that.
00:47:53
DeeBo
Which honestly, still very effective.
00:47:53
28dongslater
It's not really connected, but... extremely effective. I will say one of my favorites.
00:47:58
DeeBo
Because I was just like, oh this is horrifying. Yeah.
00:48:01
28dongslater
um Really. Yeah. yeah And and it it kind of, it hooked me from, from that point forward. Like I, i that scene was wonderful.
00:48:10
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:48:12
28dongslater
And the, the, I was totally in bed for this movie. I'm ready, ready to to make sweet, sweet love to it after that scene.
00:48:18
DeeBo
difficult
00:48:20
28dongslater
um And it gave me what I wanted for,
00:48:27
28dongslater
95% of it
00:48:30
28dongslater
it. 95.
00:48:31
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. Hmm.
00:48:33
28dongslater
I think that's a pretty solid amount, you know, for a movie.
00:48:36
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:48:38
28dongslater
And now I offer you all a question, because this is something I was thinking about before the podcast started. Can you judge a movie on the last one minute sequence of said film?
00:48:51
AssholeSweatlord
Yes. Yeah, I mean, if anything, that the finds almost defines the movie at that point, right?
00:48:59
28dongslater
Is it, is it, do you, do you judge it more harshly because it's at the end?
00:48:59
AssholeSweatlord
Like, it could make or break a movie, I think. like
00:49:04
Steve-O
The last minute. It is your like walk away. like
00:49:08
DeeBo
Yeah, and it's literally the last, I'd say, two minutes of the movie.
00:49:08
AssholeSweatlord
That's your last taste.
00:49:12
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:49:12
28dongslater
Last two minutes.
00:49:12
AssholeSweatlord
Here, I'll counter your question, Chris.
00:49:13
28dongslater
Last two minutes.
00:49:13
DeeBo
yeah
00:49:16
AssholeSweatlord
If you're beating, if your basketball team is beating a team the entire game, and then and the last minute they fucking choke a 20-point lead, who wins the game? They don't go by the previous 47 minutes, do they?
00:49:30
28dongslater
So you it has nothing to do, like, if you had this if this scene if this scene occurred in the middle of the movie, you wouldn't judge that film as harshly.
00:49:30
AssholeSweatlord
No.
00:49:33
AssholeSweatlord
That's a bad analogy.
00:49:38
AssholeSweatlord
Okay, so you're saying this does the ending does it being at the end hold more weight because because it's at the end?
00:49:43
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:49:45
AssholeSweatlord
I mean, I guess it depends. It's hard to...
00:49:47
DeeBo
I would say yes.
00:49:48
AssholeSweatlord
Give me an example of a movie I do know.
00:49:49
28dongslater
i would I think I would say yes to it, Devin.
00:49:51
Steve-O
Yeah, I'm trying to think of one.
00:49:51
AssholeSweatlord
Give me an example.
00:49:51
28dongslater
think I would.
00:49:52
Steve-O
i'm ah The only thing that pops in my head, it's not even the same.
00:49:52
AssholeSweatlord
Give me an example.
00:49:55
Steve-O
it would be like the last episode of Seinfeld it's like Seinfeld was this like amazing run of a show. And that last episode is like just like kind of like a wet fart. And then people cried about it for years and years.
00:50:08
28dongslater
Yeah, you know, i don't, it's hard to describe, i will say, it's hard to describe this as a wet fart, necessarily.
00:50:13
AssholeSweatlord
I looked up and looked up on Reddit what bad movies have great endings. And I haven't seen some of these, but would you say Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines had a good ending?
00:50:24
DeeBo
Yes.
00:50:25
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:50:25
AssholeSweatlord
And did it make didn't make it movie? ah good movie
00:50:28
28dongslater
No.
00:50:28
DeeBo
No.
00:50:30
28dongslater
No, that's pretty obviously no. ah But I think the inverse is true, though. I agree with Devin. I think if it is the end of the film and it's not great or it goes too far into one tone that doesn't really work, I think it does have a bigger impact on on the film than necessarily a bad movie with a good ending or a great movie with a bad scene in the middle or in the beginning.
00:50:55
DeeBo
What about, um this isn't like the last two minutes, but it's the last act. But like, what about Hancock?
00:51:02
28dongslater
Oh, that last act is rough.
00:51:02
DeeBo
Remember how that's like a fun little movie?
00:51:02
AssholeSweatlord
I forget. I forget.
00:51:04
Steve-O
What was the ending of Hancock?
00:51:05
AssholeSweatlord
I forgot about that movie.
00:51:05
DeeBo
so So Hancock is like, it's like Will Smith plays this kind of like alcoholic loser superhero.
00:51:06
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, what happened?
00:51:13
Steve-O
Yeah, I remember Hancock.
00:51:13
DeeBo
and then he Yeah, right. And then he kind of hooks up with um Jason Bateman's character and his wife, Charlize Theron. And then you find out that they're like, Hancock and Charlize Theron are like gods or angels or something, and they lose their powers when they get too close and tornadoes happen.
00:51:31
DeeBo
So they have to always be apart from each other. But like, for whatever reason, they're always brought back together throughout like the thousands of years of their existence. It's a weird fucking last act of the movie.
00:51:43
28dongslater
They had to explain why Hancock was Hancock and they just ruined it
00:51:47
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:51:48
28dongslater
They ruined And yeah, it's Hancock.
00:51:50
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:51:53
DeeBo
Yeah, that's right. Hancock tucking the knee.
00:51:55
28dongslater
I will say that's a bigger chunk.
00:51:55
AssholeSweatlord
what about what about sunshine What about the movie Sunshine?
00:52:00
DeeBo
Ooh, that's actually pretty fitting because that's also Danny Boyle.
00:52:03
28dongslater
Yeah, that is that is kind of fitting.
00:52:05
AssholeSweatlord
Because that's like a really good movie.
00:52:08
DeeBo
Yeah, and then it's like really
00:52:08
AssholeSweatlord
and then And then the final act is kind of like weird.
00:52:08
28dongslater
That bumbles it.
00:52:09
Steve-O
a Space murderer.
00:52:11
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
00:52:11
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:52:12
28dongslater
Hmm.
00:52:13
AssholeSweatlord
But does it, I mean, i still I still really enjoy I still really enjoy that movie though.
00:52:14
28dongslater
I love Sunshine, though.
00:52:17
Steve-O
Yeah. but
00:52:17
AssholeSweatlord
like i still say I still say it's a good movie.
00:52:18
28dongslater
It's like, guess I'm quite biased.
00:52:20
DeeBo
Yeah, you know, Chris, yeah, I think...
00:52:22
28dongslater
I'm quite biased with Sunshine in in regards to that ending being more of like a slasher movie. And I'm like that.
00:52:29
AssholeSweatlord
ah Because it's like, that's your kind of thing, right?
00:52:30
28dongslater
It's hard. It is. And I'm not like I can't I don't hate it as much.
00:52:36
DeeBo
what about Wait, hold on. what about Remember Daybreakers?
00:52:41
Steve-O
With the vampires?
00:52:41
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:52:41
DeeBo
Ethan Hawke?
00:52:41
28dongslater
Yeah.
00:52:41
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. that's ah That movie's not that good in the first...
00:52:43
Steve-O
Nah, dude, that ending's a hoot, though.
00:52:46
DeeBo
Oh my god. That is one the dumbest endings I've ever fucking watched.
00:52:48
28dongslater
I, I, here's the deal.
00:52:49
Steve-O
The vampires just keep eating themselves...................
00:52:50
AssholeSweatlord
Mm-hmm.
00:52:53
28dongslater
I think it is kind of a hoot too, the end of this, but it's not right. it Like it just doesn't fit. It's,
00:52:58
DeeBo
Yeah, and basically... What Chris is kind of like teasing is like the last three to five minutes of this movie... just complete tonal change.
00:53:09
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, I heard it's like...
00:53:09
DeeBo
And then the movie ends and you're like, okay.
00:53:11
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, I heard it's...
00:53:13
DeeBo
Now i will say from my personal experience, I walked in, i did not know this was like the beginning of a trilogy. I thought this is just like his last movie.
00:53:26
DeeBo
So I was kind of going into it going like, I feel like we're just, there's a lot of loose plot threads. And then this thing happened and it just ended. And I was like, huh? Because my initial thoughts were, i was like, I didn't love it.
00:53:41
DeeBo
I didn't hate it, but I also don't think I liked it. And then I was just kind of in this weird, I've been chewing on it since I've seen it.
00:53:49
28dongslater
See, I quite liked it. And I really like loved the imagery towards the end. And i i a lot of people were saying that it was kind of rushed.
00:54:00
28dongslater
I don't see that. I'd see a Danny Boyle movie more more than anything.
00:54:04
DeeBo
Um,
00:54:06
28dongslater
i think that his style of editing and his style of shooting, it's very fast paced.
00:54:10
DeeBo
I think the stuff with Dr. Kelson was like the end of that whole thing was pretty rushed. Like it felt like there was a big scene that was cut and then they're like, okay, now we're at the end.
00:54:20
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:54:22
28dongslater
don't i don't know i don't see that i see i see a progression it's like a it's a it's a it's a journey movie all right and it's like any other journey movie where you meet these supporting characters and then you move on right like they they have this moment and then it's over and then and they continue the journey like that's to me it fit the progression of the film.
00:54:48
28dongslater
I didn't think it was rushed. I actually really loved that portion. i loved what he represented to the doctor in general.
00:54:56
DeeBo
Yeah, I thought it was interesting. There's some things I kind of want to nitpick, but like it's I don't it's just kind of it's not even spoiler. It's like not worth it even.
00:55:07
DeeBo
But like there's a scene, you know, near the end, like of that whole thing where he's saying goodbye to a character and I'm watching it and I'm like, I'm this close to being out.
00:55:26
DeeBo
Because it's just kind of like really fucking goofy, like in a bubble. But if you're in it, you're in it, right? And you're like, okay, i get i get it.
00:55:36
28dongslater
think it makes sense in the world and everything. like, yeah, it fits. It fits the world.
00:55:40
DeeBo
It's still like a – it was like really melodramatic.
00:55:40
AssholeSweatlord
Thank you.
00:55:43
DeeBo
Like really melodramatic. And I was like, this is almost stupid.
00:55:45
28dongslater
I thought it was kind of heartfelt.
00:55:47
DeeBo
It was almost stupid. I'm not going to say it was, but it was close. And then the movie does show me what kind of stupid it is. Like, at the end of the movie, was like, oh, no, this is stupid.
00:55:58
28dongslater
Yeah, that's a whole nother level.
00:55:59
DeeBo
Like, this is stupid. And, you know, it is ah the movie, again, like, go into this movie knowing that there's going to be sequels, or at least planned.
00:56:13
DeeBo
I think so, because this movie's, like, a big hit. So, which is great. But... One, you should go into that knowing it because otherwise you'll be very confused and probably little irritated like I was.
00:56:20
AssholeSweatlord
Thank you.
00:56:23
DeeBo
Two, be prepared for it to kind of defy your expectations in some interesting ways.
00:56:30
28dongslater
Many ways.
00:56:31
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:56:32
28dongslater
Many ways. I think this movie is is a slap in the face to a lot of zombie movies and action movies, too. Like, there's a lot going on.
00:56:41
DeeBo
Yeah. I mean, it's like it's like a coming of age movie. It's a film about loss and letting go. then we have like you know other big important like you know world shattering events happening in the movie giant penises clockwork orange style like I
00:57:02
28dongslater
I think it's also equally, equally about like ignorance too, like willful ignorance, like not ever really understanding the world that you're in just surviving.
00:57:13
DeeBo
i mean to an extent like all
00:57:16
28dongslater
Because I think the doctor represents the opposite of that. Like he's actively trying to understand where he is and trying to offer.
00:57:22
DeeBo
Yeah, but you'd also, I think, have to admit that he's also a little crazy.
00:57:26
28dongslater
Well, he's crazy only in the, like you said, only in the context of us, like in that world,
00:57:27
AssholeSweatlord
Thank you.
00:57:32
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:57:32
28dongslater
Kind of seems nice.
00:57:34
DeeBo
Well, what's what's your take on ah the Jamie character, Chris? Jamie is played by Aaron Taylor Johnson. He plays Spike, who's essentially the main character's father.
00:57:45
28dongslater
I love what they did with him. I loved that he was a very complex character.
00:57:51
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:57:51
28dongslater
Because in one hand you could say there was a lot of negatives. And there's also on the other hand scenes that made me say oh what a nice dad he is.
00:58:01
DeeBo
I think the scene, I think, I think the internet's been a little too harsh on Jamie. I think he's a, yeah, exactly.
00:58:07
28dongslater
it's He's a balanced, he's a human. He's a very human character.
00:58:10
DeeBo
Like, but you know, people are like, oh, he's this, he's that. And I'm like, I don't know. He kind of seems like a realistic.
00:58:16
28dongslater
There are things he does that you're like, that's awful. But then again,
00:58:19
DeeBo
Yeah. You're like, well, that's shitty, but also kind of understandable.
00:58:23
28dongslater
the the thing that I also really was interested the most in is their journey. Like when he went out with his son, there's something going on there that's not normal.
00:58:35
28dongslater
Like it doesn't, doesn't make sense.
00:58:38
DeeBo
Yeah, well, I mean, I think it's just because he's like the dude bro of all dude bros in that fucking village.
00:58:45
28dongslater
Right. But like the context of why they're out there, it's very weird.
00:58:46
DeeBo
Because, yeah, well, honestly, I think he's just pushing his kid because they're like, hey, he's wait he's like three years too young to do this.
00:58:53
28dongslater
He's,
00:58:56
DeeBo
And he's like, no, he's fine. Because I think he wants him to be like him.
00:59:00
28dongslater
it's the equivalent of native American boys going out into the woods and slapping bears in the face and then running away to prove their manhood.
00:59:02
AssholeSweatlord
Thank you.
00:59:07
28dongslater
Like it's stupid.
00:59:08
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:59:09
28dongslater
It's really stupid. And you're, you're constantly, that's always kind of being weighed in your mind with his character. And then, but he does do things.
00:59:18
DeeBo
It's also like trying to hate Joel, you know? It's like, you can't hate Joel.
00:59:23
28dongslater
He's, like he's very complex. And I love that.
00:59:24
DeeBo
He's like, do it.
00:59:25
28dongslater
I think that's a great, that's part of the magic of the, of this movie.
00:59:28
DeeBo
Yeah. The more you do it, the easier it is, which is true from my understanding, you know?
00:59:31
28dongslater
Yes. It is.
00:59:34
DeeBo
um
00:59:35
28dongslater
It's like what he's teaching him is right, but the the motive is wrong.
00:59:41
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
00:59:42
28dongslater
That's the way I look at it.
00:59:42
DeeBo
or or Or it's just like what is expected. And obviously this movie is trying to show a little something a little different.
00:59:51
28dongslater
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:52
DeeBo
um
00:59:52
28dongslater
Yes.
00:59:53
DeeBo
And like, you know, there's there's a plot in this that I actually dislike more than anything in the movie. And it's not the end of the movie. It's not the last like three minutes.
01:00:03
DeeBo
It's something that happens kind of near the, I guess, third act. ah you know, with the, well, Chris, you probably know what talking about, but I don't like that revelation. I think it's hacked.
01:00:21
DeeBo
It's like overdone a lot. And considering all the things this movie has to do, i guess the story has to play out. I'm like, i don't see how there's room for this as well.
01:00:33
28dongslater
I'm not gonna say it's the weakest part, but i I understand where you're coming from.
01:00:37
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:00:37
28dongslater
Because I do like the concept of that. But it may be too, I see which it may be a little too unwieldy for the amount of shit that's going on.
01:00:47
DeeBo
Yeah. Well, because it's like, yeah, it's like, okay, are we is there going to be another time jump that even makes this fucking relevant? Or like what? but man Anyway, um this this is a tough movie, man.
01:01:00
28dongslater
I think this is a divisive movie.
01:01:03
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:01:03
28dongslater
I really enjoyed it. up i I pretty much loved everything up until the very end.
01:01:09
DeeBo
So the you really didn't like the end?
01:01:09
28dongslater
I think... Yeah. and Like, I laughed in the theater...
01:01:13
AssholeSweatlord
What about you, Devin? Did you like the end?
01:01:16
DeeBo
The end is everything everyone's it's jarring. It's completely out of character for the rest of the movie, but I don't think hated it or it's I don't even think I didn't like it I was just like, ah okay, like this. It's just so
01:01:31
28dongslater
I think it's too much.
01:01:31
DeeBo
right,
01:01:32
28dongslater
I think it's too jarring. I think it's too much of a shift. I i think it's a wrong move.
01:01:36
DeeBo
ah Chris, do you think if there was like another five minutes after that, do you think it would have been a little bit better?
01:01:43
28dongslater
Actually, you know, which Devin, if it was an end credit scene, I think it would have worked better.
01:01:47
DeeBo
yeah Okay. If it was just like an after credits.
01:01:49
28dongslater
If it wasn't connected to, yeah, it wasn't connected to the actual film and it was something like at the very, after the credit thing,
01:01:55
DeeBo
but But like, and to be fair, this isn't just like a little like ha key thing. Like this is clearly setting up what the second movie is going to be ah in a big way. So I think a lot of people are now going to be like, is the second movie just going to be this? Because that's pretty intense.
01:02:13
28dongslater
It is. um I don't even have a problem with that, to be perfectly honest with you, Devin.
01:02:17
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:02:18
28dongslater
I would see a movie like that, but it just doesn't fit in this movie. Like, it doesn't.
01:02:24
DeeBo
Yeah, in this movie. If, like, the sequel itself was this tone, even that's more acceptable than, like...
01:02:28
28dongslater
Yeah, that's fine. Because actually, it would have been it would have been fine because this movie did subvert a lot of shit and a lot of common plot devices in zombie movies.
01:02:35
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:02:38
28dongslater
And it would have been fine if there was a sequel like that. And i would've been like, oh, cool, they're doing more subversion. This is going to be even crazier than the last one.
01:02:45
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
01:02:46
28dongslater
But the fact that they had to tag it in there, it just didn't work.
01:02:50
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:02:51
28dongslater
It's a good set, folks.
01:02:54
Steve-O
Good sit.
01:02:55
28dongslater
Good set.
01:02:58
Steve-O
Devin.
01:02:58
DeeBo
It's fuck. It's a fuck. I don't know if I want to give it good.
01:03:00
Steve-O
Give me just a just a fuck. Just a solid fuck.
01:03:02
DeeBo
There's just, there's, yeah, it's definitely solid. Definitely not kill. Real strong fuck. Maybe good sit territory, but I, uh, you know.
01:03:18
DeeBo
ah yeah.
01:03:18
28dongslater
I was a little disappointed just code to that being the end.
01:03:18
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:03:22
28dongslater
I was. That really might be most of it, but...
01:03:25
DeeBo
But this really is like, you should see this movie. You should definitely, yeah, you should see it.
01:03:27
28dongslater
Yeah, you should. I want to hear your opinions.
01:03:28
Steve-O
You got me.
01:03:29
DeeBo
yeah he yeah
01:03:29
Steve-O
You still got me thinking the flip of like movies that have bad endings, but the rest of it are like bangers because it seems like a lot of the ones like I'm looking on Reddit and a lot of the ones people are like listing and it's like I disagree with them like vehemently.
01:03:37
28dongslater
Yeah.
01:03:45
Steve-O
But then there's a part of me that's like, is that just because I like the movie and it's a good movie still?
01:03:50
28dongslater
All right, well, what what do you have one in mind?
01:03:52
Steve-O
Uh, like on this list, I don't have one from like my own list. Like I can't really even like think of it.
01:03:57
28dongslater
like but
01:03:57
DeeBo
I have one I was thinking of. This might be a little kind of but us.
01:03:59
Steve-O
what were you thinking of?
01:04:03
DeeBo
I really like us up until like the reveal and I was like, oh, this is stupid.
01:04:07
28dongslater
I think I agree with you.
01:04:08
Steve-O
Okay.
01:04:08
DeeBo
I don't like this at all.
01:04:09
28dongslater
I agree with you. i agree That's a good one.
01:04:11
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:04:11
28dongslater
That's a good one.
01:04:12
Steve-O
I'm a list. I'm a list some the movies that this Reddit post from two years ago has on here from, from the comments.
01:04:16
DeeBo
Okay.
01:04:17
Steve-O
All right. There's one person at the very top. This is the top rated. This is Gerald's game.
01:04:24
DeeBo
Hmm.
01:04:25
28dongslater
Whaaaaat?
01:04:27
DeeBo
What's wrong with the ending of Gerald's game?
01:04:28
AssholeSweatlord
That's interesting.
01:04:29
Steve-O
Do you want me to, do you want me to read the details?
01:04:31
28dongslater
Yeah...
01:04:31
Steve-O
right It says the twist itself was brilliant and really added a new layer of horrors to the film.
01:04:32
DeeBo
Spoilers for Gerald's game. yeah
01:04:37
Steve-O
But fuck, the delivery is dreadful, really tonally off and annoying. Other than the ending, it's a brilliant film and I'd still absolutely recommend it.
01:04:46
28dongslater
What is the very end? Is it her degloving herself?
01:04:48
Steve-O
it's the court key It's the court case.
01:04:50
DeeBo
no It's the court stuff. But, like, i kind of thought that was...
01:04:53
28dongslater
I actually didn't remember that.
01:04:56
DeeBo
No, I remember that. I just thought it was like this because she gets that closure, you know, where she like looks in the face and she's like.
01:05:00
Steve-O
And yeah, yeah, he comes in and she's like screaming at him and then he like, ooh.
01:05:06
DeeBo
Well, because she's like, oh, he is real. And like, I think that's the reveal in the movie is you're like, oh, my God.
01:05:09
Steve-O
Right.
01:05:12
DeeBo
Yeah, he is. Oh, that's terrifying. And then she's like, you know, she like talks him down, not talks him down, but like she gives him an earful, I think. Right. Or something like that.
01:05:23
28dongslater
Man, I do not remember that.
01:05:23
Steve-O
Yeah, she like blasts off. She blasts off at him.
01:05:25
28dongslater
Maybe I don't like the ending.
01:05:26
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:05:27
28dongslater
I don't remember that shit at all.
01:05:28
DeeBo
Oh, man. I mean...
01:05:31
Steve-O
Well, let let me go through some more of these too.
01:05:31
DeeBo
Okay, yeah, I'm sorry.
01:05:32
Steve-O
All right.
01:05:33
DeeBo
Sorry, yeah. What
01:05:34
Steve-O
This ah the second one says Shang-Chi. I haven't seen Shang-Chi.
01:05:39
28dongslater
I don't...
01:05:39
DeeBo
the fuck's wrong with Shang-Chi?
01:05:40
28dongslater
It's a fight. It's a fight scene.
01:05:41
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, what's wrong with the end of Shang-Chi?
01:05:42
DeeBo
Yeah, it's a good fight. Maybe the dragon? Maybe it's the dragon stuff.
01:05:47
28dongslater
CGI? Bad CGI? Nah.
01:05:50
DeeBo
I mean, it's... Okay. Yeah, I don't know. So far...
01:05:53
28dongslater
They're protecting that that that ancient land, right? They're all fighting back. It's like a battle.
01:05:58
DeeBo
Yeah, and the like the big dragon shows up and they fight.
01:06:02
28dongslater
I remember more in Gerald's game.
01:06:04
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:06:05
28dongslater
I'll tell you that
01:06:06
Steve-O
There you
01:06:06
DeeBo
Yes, Steve. Yes, Steve.
01:06:07
Steve-O
See? ah Here's one that says Barbarian.
01:06:12
DeeBo
No, dude, this list is capped, dude.
01:06:12
28dongslater
that.
01:06:13
DeeBo
I hate this list. Oh, this is bork, dude.
01:06:16
Steve-O
ah Here's another one that says Sunshine.
01:06:17
28dongslater
What? What?
01:06:18
Steve-O
Okay.
01:06:19
28dongslater
All right, yeah.
01:06:20
DeeBo
All right.
01:06:20
28dongslater
right, we did bring that up.
01:06:20
DeeBo
I finally won.
01:06:21
Steve-O
me do that. Here's one that says Nightmare on Elm Street.
01:06:24
28dongslater
Oh, that's a good one.
01:06:25
DeeBo
and That's actually a good one.
01:06:26
Steve-O
Okay.
01:06:26
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:06:27
28dongslater
That is a good one. That ending stinks.
01:06:28
DeeBo
Yeah, mean, it stinks, yeah.
01:06:30
28dongslater
It's so bad.
01:06:31
DeeBo
butt on toast, dude, yeah
01:06:33
28dongslater
so Don't look at him.
01:06:35
DeeBo
yeah.
01:06:37
28dongslater
I like that was the thing. Oh, Lord.
01:06:41
Steve-O
All right, we found one.
01:06:41
28dongslater
All
01:06:41
Steve-O
We found one. There
01:06:45
DeeBo
All right, all right.
01:06:45
28dongslater
right. Good, good, good.
01:06:46
Steve-O
we go. We can live with that. We can live with that.
01:06:47
28dongslater
I'll live with that.
01:06:48
DeeBo
Yeah, you know what um
01:06:48
28dongslater
Live with that.
01:06:52
DeeBo
what? 28 years later is not as bad of an ending as as Nightmare on Elm Show you want.
01:06:57
28dongslater
That's true. i will I will definitely say that.
01:06:59
DeeBo
Oh.
01:07:01
Steve-O
i yeah I consumed a little horror, but not of the movie variety. I'm a little ashamed to admit something.
01:07:08
28dongslater
yeah? What you got?
Gaming: Reviews and Recommendations
01:07:11
Steve-O
I played the new Five Nights at Freddy's game.
01:07:13
DeeBo
Oh, you piece of garbage.
01:07:16
28dongslater
You child. i don't know what to say.
01:07:18
Steve-O
And you, no, no, dude, you want to, dude, you want to hear the worst part?
01:07:22
DeeBo
What?
01:07:22
Steve-O
I didn't hate it. It's actually pretty good.
01:07:24
28dongslater
No.
01:07:24
DeeBo
Oh, my God.
01:07:26
28dongslater
No. No.
01:07:27
Steve-O
So, so this one is called five nights at Freddy's, uh, the secret of the mimic and keep in mind, my only familiar familiarity with five nights at Freddy's as a franchise is watching Markiplier occasionally play the games.
01:07:42
28dongslater
Yeah, sure. Me too.
01:07:43
Steve-O
I do not have a deep dive into the lore. I saw the movie.
01:07:45
28dongslater
Oh, oh, the Matt Platt theories. I did watch all those.
01:07:48
Steve-O
Oh yeah. Yeah. Matt, Pat, Matt, Pat.
01:07:49
28dongslater
Matt Pat.
01:07:49
Steve-O
That's true.
01:07:50
28dongslater
I did watch all of those.
01:07:50
Steve-O
um but like the thing is I didn't really keep up. I didn't keep up. I watched like the first couple ones. like, ah, that's kind of wild. But then I fell off. um But I was kind of curious. I was like, all right, you know what? Let's go for the ride.
01:08:02
Steve-O
um I was kind of told that like, this is a prequel game to a lot of the whole Five Nights at Freddy's thing. um And this is a weird one because it's not like ah you sit in an office and you like shut doors.
01:08:18
Steve-O
You go to the next day. It is like a full on like you are walking in ah like ah a first person environment. And yeah, it's it's It's good. It's it's very reminiscent.
01:08:31
Steve-O
It reminds me of an an indie take on Portal 2. So you...
01:08:36
AssholeSweatlord
Interesting
01:08:37
Steve-O
Yeah, so you start the game and you are a... a ah You are a um ah maintenance worker for Fazbear Entertainment. And they pretty much call you and they're like, hey, you know, we I know you've just done like a double, but we need you to go up and we've got some we've got some movement on the old Murray's Costume Manor warehouse.
01:09:02
Steve-O
And we need you to go see what that is. um And so like you go up there and it's pretty much I don't know when the game takes place, but I think it takes place kind of in like the the late 70s, early 80s.
01:09:15
Steve-O
So like everything is like very much in that like Portal 2 vibe where like everything is like... um
01:09:22
28dongslater
Antiquated?
01:09:23
Steve-O
antiquated um the the gadgetry is all um what is that it's like low lo-fi hi-fi lo-fi tech yeah um but it's fun it's fun you're getting chased around by a bunch of monsters and it's you know it's got an interesting story it made me actually want to kind of look up more of the lore which you know i was like all right you know
01:09:30
28dongslater
Lo-fi? Yeah.
01:09:45
Steve-O
I would recommend when it's cheaper to jump in, like if it ever goes on sale. um It's a $40 game. I got it for $35.
01:09:53
28dongslater
Is Freddy in the game?
01:09:55
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:09:56
Steve-O
um Freddie makes some appearances, but it focuses more on um a ah predecessor company that um made a lot of the tech and animatronics.
01:10:10
Steve-O
It's a
01:10:10
28dongslater
Stinker's Fatburger.
01:10:12
Steve-O
No, no, it's called Murray's Costume Manor, and their whole gimmick is they sell animatronics to companies, and ah they just end up going a little too high-tech due to some events that you find out in the game.
01:10:14
28dongslater
Ah.
01:10:24
Steve-O
And it's it's a very fun roller coaster because you are basically being hunted by a... It's interesting. you're You're being hunted by a stalker enemy, but that stalker enemy is the mimic who can take any form and fit into any animatronic.
01:10:40
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:10:40
Steve-O
So it's you're in a building filled with costumes, but there is a there is one mechanical animatronic that it can enter any of the costumes and like go after you at any point.
01:10:54
Steve-O
So you'll just be like surrounded by these fucking like hideous bumblebee costumes. And that's another thing I have to give it. You know how kind of like some of the Five Nights of Freddy's designs get a little too plasticky. It doesn't feel like the old school Chuck E. Cheese stuff.
01:11:07
DeeBo
yeah
01:11:07
Steve-O
This one 100% leans into the old school Chuck E. Cheese. Like this, like look like the, the, the fur and the, the looking ratty.
01:11:15
28dongslater
I
01:11:17
Steve-O
It does that really good. So definitely recommend if it ever goes on sale, give in a check. Cause this is the first time I've been like, damn. All right. This is kind of what I kind of always wanted from this franchise. It's better than the goddamn movie.
01:11:28
28dongslater
can get this on my deck, right?
01:11:30
Steve-O
You can get it for your deck. I played it on steam.
01:11:31
AssholeSweatlord
o
01:11:32
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:11:33
DeeBo
That's not what I heard. Okay.
01:11:34
Steve-O
I'm kind of curious.
01:11:34
28dongslater
Yep.
01:11:34
Steve-O
Actually, let me see.
01:11:34
28dongslater
and he He let that one fly.
01:11:36
Steve-O
Let me wait wait wait wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. What did you say?
01:11:39
28dongslater
I said I can get this one for my dick.
01:11:43
Steve-O
Yeah, you could probably, you could probably play it on your penis if you wanted to.
01:11:43
28dongslater
Not that.
01:11:46
28dongslater
All right.
01:11:46
Steve-O
Yeah, you can go.
01:11:46
28dongslater
that's That was the question that I asked. Just wanted to clarify. Because I have my Steam Deck.
01:11:52
Steve-O
Yeah, it's um it's got multiple endings.
01:11:53
28dongslater
I'm going to get it for that.
01:11:57
Steve-O
um I got two of the endings to get the secret ending, though.
01:11:58
DeeBo
yeah
01:12:00
Steve-O
You have to play it in a new game, plus which I'm I'm actually going to do because I really enjoyed my time with it.
01:12:06
28dongslater
Is it a short run of a game?
01:12:08
Steve-O
Yes, yes, I would say that it is about four or five hours.
01:12:09
28dongslater
Short run. Okay.
01:12:12
28dongslater
Four or five. Like the original Portal, basically.
01:12:15
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, ah I would say it's longer than the original Porter, but it's shorter than Portal 2.
01:12:15
28dongslater
Okay.
01:12:21
28dongslater
How long was the original Portal? Is it like an hour? Yeah, yeah.
01:12:23
Steve-O
You play that like an hour, hour and a half. Yeah.
01:12:26
28dongslater
That sounds about right.
01:12:29
DeeBo
yeah Can I tell you about a a fat L I took this week?
01:12:33
Steve-O
What's that?
01:12:34
AssholeSweatlord
Yes.
01:12:34
DeeBo
i yeah So I was like, I was downloading some old games. And I was like, oh, I should play. cyberpunk because I was like, I bought Phantom Liberty fire up that I downloaded, I downloaded.
01:12:48
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, you should play fucking cyberpunk.
01:12:51
Steve-O
hmm.
01:12:52
DeeBo
I only have the disc version. So I, and I was like,
01:12:55
AssholeSweatlord
Wait, what? I thought you...
01:12:57
DeeBo
On my PS5 Pro, I only have the disc version, and I don't have it.
01:13:00
AssholeSweatlord
oh fuck. You have a disk drive.
01:13:02
DeeBo
so i was like So I was like, oh, let me, how much is it?
01:13:04
AssholeSweatlord
yeah
01:13:05
DeeBo
It's probably like $20, $30, $50.
01:13:08
DeeBo
And I was like, I'm not fucking spending $50.
01:13:10
AssholeSweatlord
For the disk drive? Yeah.
01:13:11
DeeBo
No, no, no, just so to download the game.
01:13:12
AssholeSweatlord
Wait. ah For the game?
01:13:14
DeeBo
and i was
01:13:14
28dongslater
Oh, you bought that physically originally is what you're saying.
01:13:16
DeeBo
Yeah, well, I bought it, returned it and then it was on sale for literally $4 at Best So I bought it physically and then just never got around to playing it.
01:13:28
AssholeSweatlord
But it's the disk version.
01:13:29
DeeBo
it's the disfer So I could use it on the upstairs PS5.
01:13:32
28dongslater
Try jamming it in there, man.
01:13:34
AssholeSweatlord
No, don't do that.
01:13:34
DeeBo
ah But like I'm like, i'm not I'm not doing it.
01:13:35
AssholeSweatlord
then don't play Don't play like that. don't Don't do that. Please, please, please.
01:13:38
DeeBo
I'm not doing it. because I'm not doing it.
01:13:39
28dongslater
Just jamming in there, man.
01:13:39
AssholeSweatlord
Please.
01:13:41
28dongslater
It's got holes.
01:13:42
DeeBo
So I felt like a fucking loser. So instead I replayed. Because the DLC was like $3. three dollars I replayed Streets Rage 4 with the Mr. X Nightmare stuff.
01:13:56
DeeBo
And then I was like, Jenny, do you want to play? And she's like, I'm going to go do... I'm going to clean instead. And so i just fucking played Streets of Rage 4 by myself.
01:14:07
DeeBo
And, you know I still had a good time. I still had goddamn good time. So...
01:14:11
28dongslater
Were you asking Jenny to like cheer you on at least or?
01:14:14
DeeBo
I was like, do you want to watch? She's like, no. I was like, okay, cool. I like, Jenny, it's not confusing.
01:14:19
28dongslater
and
01:14:21
DeeBo
It's not hard to play. It's a fucking beat-em-up. she She didn't want to do it. And then I also bought DLC for Final Fantasy XVI because I never played that.
01:14:30
Steve-O
Bye.
01:14:33
DeeBo
And um there's no PS5 Pro patch for that. And I was like, oh, this is... fucking stupid. So I've been kind of just like willy-nilly just playing a little bit of everything again.
01:14:46
28dongslater
You're at that point where there's... Is there a lot of pro updates for games?
01:14:50
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. It's weird that 16 does not have a...
01:14:51
28dongslater
Is there?
01:14:54
DeeBo
Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth has ah as a pro patch.
01:14:57
28dongslater
Hmm.
01:14:59
DeeBo
Like, I just can't play... You know? you know
01:15:02
28dongslater
It's interesting.
01:15:03
DeeBo
So I feel ah I'm in this weird spot where I'm just kind of
01:15:07
28dongslater
you You bought a chair too high. yeah You can't reach down below.
01:15:10
DeeBo
A a little.
01:15:11
Steve-O
but
01:15:12
DeeBo
I know.
01:15:12
28dongslater
just You're too high up.
01:15:13
DeeBo
I was like, come on. that's Literally, I was like, come on.
01:15:15
28dongslater
Can't...
01:15:16
AssholeSweatlord
Come on.
01:15:17
DeeBo
What are we doing here?
01:15:17
AssholeSweatlord
and Come on. um
01:15:20
DeeBo
So.
01:15:20
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, come on.
01:15:21
Steve-O
Come
01:15:22
DeeBo
um man, you know what? i I tried playing a little bit of Dave the Diver. i did not enjoy that game at all.
01:15:28
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, you're really like, dude just just play Cyberpunk, Devin.
01:15:28
Steve-O
oh
01:15:29
28dongslater
I love Dave the Diver.
01:15:32
DeeBo
No, I tried. i tried That's the problem. I tried playing it. And i was like, oh, fuck.
01:15:36
Steve-O
Are you finding yourself having a hard time kind of like looking forward to certain like games that you have or like like play?
01:15:42
DeeBo
dude Dude, right now, gaming for me in 2025 is like a real...
01:15:48
28dongslater
The Desert.
01:15:48
DeeBo
Like, I feel like the most casual dude ever. I'm like, I'll just play... call I'll play two games when they come out.
01:15:55
Steve-O
No, no, dude, I 100% understand that. Like, I don't know what it is. John, you might be in the same boat as me. I don't think I turned on my Switch to this entire week.
01:16:05
DeeBo
Dude.
01:16:05
AssholeSweatlord
Dude, once i ah once it took me only like four hours to get to Master Rank on Street Fighter VI on Switch, I haven't played it since.
01:16:11
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:16:13
Steve-O
You've got multiple games like that's the thing.
01:16:13
28dongslater
Wow.
01:16:15
Steve-O
Like, I only have Mario Kart World and every time I turn that game on, I get mad.
01:16:16
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
01:16:20
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, every time I... Yeah, I twitch. I twitch when I when i see the game.
01:16:22
28dongslater
Gentlemen, I am also in the same boat, and I thought I am the only one who feels this way, but it happens to me even when games are good. i just Sometimes I fall into lull, or I'll just be like reading a book.
01:16:36
28dongslater
ah That's it.
01:16:37
DeeBo
Yeah, and you know to be fair, like I watched some good TV.
01:16:37
Steve-O
That's fair. Hey, that's fair.
01:16:40
DeeBo
I watched some good movies. I read some good comics. like I wasn't hurting for entertainment, but it is one of those...
01:16:43
Steve-O
e
01:16:46
Steve-O
Right.
01:16:48
DeeBo
like i and this I know how this is going to sound, but I was like, maybe I'll play Claire Obscure. But I was like, I just don't really feel like spending $50 on... like I have so many other games to either play or replay, and it still was like...
01:17:00
28dongslater
That's probably the next one up for me.
01:17:02
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:17:03
28dongslater
That's the next one up.
01:17:04
AssholeSweatlord
You know what, though?
01:17:05
DeeBo
was like, ugh, yeah.
01:17:06
AssholeSweatlord
you know the You know what, though, Steve? That fucking Donkey Kong Nintendo Direct really got my fucking dick hard.
01:17:13
Steve-O
it did You know what?
01:17:13
AssholeSweatlord
Like, it was...
01:17:14
Steve-O
it It made me go like, oh, thank God. Okay, right. This is coming out very soon.
01:17:17
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah. So we got... We have something.
01:17:20
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:17:21
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:17:21
AssholeSweatlord
It looks... And apparently, like, the people that, like...
01:17:22
DeeBo
um I'm not going to lie. That game looks... I watched it because I was like half a day after you guys had like and seen it.
01:17:29
28dongslater
Don't say bananas. Don't say bananas.
01:17:31
DeeBo
I was fucking blown away.
01:17:31
28dongslater
Don't say bananas.
01:17:32
DeeBo
I was like, wow, this is astounding looking.
01:17:32
28dongslater
Okay, good.
01:17:33
AssholeSweatlord
Dude... Yeah, it's like it's insane. yeah and apparently like cause I know ah remember seeing like some people got to play like a demo or some shit of it ah like before the Switch 2 even launched, and they were really like, oh, this is like really not that great.
01:17:43
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah, like the Switch 2 event or whatever. Yeah.
01:17:49
AssholeSweatlord
like It's like kind of whatever.
01:17:50
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:17:50
AssholeSweatlord
and then like all the All the shit that they showed in the direct, was was none of that shit was in the demo that those people played.
01:17:57
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:17:58
AssholeSweatlord
People were saying. They were like, oh, i didn't know you could fucking turn it to fucking Ultra Instinct fucking DK Prime 1 million in this shit.
01:18:07
DeeBo
but quickly yeah
01:18:07
AssholeSweatlord
Like, and fucking... Like, that shit looks crazy, dude.
01:18:09
Steve-O
Dude, Donkey Kong's got ass cheeks.
01:18:12
AssholeSweatlord
Dude.
01:18:12
28dongslater
a
01:18:14
AssholeSweatlord
No, and then, like, so so Steve, like, fucking...
01:18:14
28dongslater
Yes. Yes.
01:18:16
AssholeSweatlord
So this little baby Pauline just wants to be a singer?
01:18:20
Steve-O
we need
01:18:20
AssholeSweatlord
Is this the origin...
01:18:21
Steve-O
We need to talk.
01:18:21
AssholeSweatlord
Is this the origin...
01:18:22
Steve-O
Is this lore? Because, like, what?
01:18:24
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, is this the origin of New Donk City, I guess? Like, and then...
01:18:27
Steve-O
Maybe?
01:18:27
DeeBo
It has to be, dude.
01:18:28
Steve-O
But why is Cranky there?
01:18:28
DeeBo
It has to be.
01:18:29
AssholeSweatlord
So it ties...
01:18:30
Steve-O
Like, how old are these people? Like, what?
01:18:32
28dongslater
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me Donkey Kong built a city?
01:18:35
AssholeSweatlord
Well, in Super Mario Odyssey, there's New Donk City, which is like which is like New York.
01:18:36
Steve-O
mean, Donkey Kong.
01:18:38
28dongslater
Yeah, I know.
01:18:39
Steve-O
Pauline's the mayor.
01:18:41
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, Pauline's the mayor, and this is a little baby version of Pauline, who just wants to be a singer, is in this game.
01:18:42
28dongslater
Hmm.
01:18:45
Steve-O
Who wants to be a singer?
01:18:49
AssholeSweatlord
Which is like...
01:18:50
Steve-O
I'm, I don't know because it's like, Diddy's there too.
01:18:51
AssholeSweatlord
Bro.
01:18:52
Steve-O
It's like, how old is Donkey Kong?
01:18:56
28dongslater
Hmm.
01:18:57
AssholeSweatlord
Dude.
01:18:57
Steve-O
For a second, for a second, I was like, wow.
01:18:57
DeeBo
Donkey Kong's immortal. He's as old as Mario, dude.
01:19:00
Steve-O
I was like, wow, this is a game where you play as young Cranky Kong and that's cool.
01:19:00
DeeBo
Immortal.
01:19:04
Steve-O
And then they showed me fucking Cranky Kong and I'm like, where is the fucking time? Where,
01:19:09
28dongslater
I think he's middle-aged by this point.
01:19:12
Steve-O
It's just just grumpy Kong.
01:19:13
DeeBo
but
01:19:14
28dongslater
Yeah, yeah, he's like a, needs you know, he's more of a curmudgeon.
01:19:16
Steve-O
Actually, isn't grumpy?
01:19:16
DeeBo
his back His back just started to hurt.
01:19:17
Steve-O
Isn't grumpy Kong one of the new new evil Kong characters they they announced, John?
01:19:21
DeeBo
Oh, yeah. That's right.
01:19:22
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
01:19:23
28dongslater
Cynical Kong, Millennial Kong, Ximicom.
01:19:25
Steve-O
Zoomer Kong? Skibbity Kong? Goon Kong?
01:19:29
AssholeSweatlord
Skibbity Kong.
01:19:29
DeeBo
excuse me toilet kong
01:19:30
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, man. No, that's the Void Kong. Yeah, that's that's Tim.
01:19:33
Steve-O
Goon Kong?
01:19:33
AssholeSweatlord
Void Kong. Oh, man, i that's me.
01:19:36
DeeBo
rizz kong dude oh well listen ah my honest to goodness think thought is i'm like is mario gonna be like the secret end boss
01:19:36
AssholeSweatlord
Goon Kong is me.
01:19:38
28dongslater
I'm just impressed that they might be implying he built a city because, you know, he does have experience working on like girders and stuff.
01:19:39
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, Riz Kong? Oh, hell yeah.
01:19:43
Steve-O
a
01:19:51
DeeBo
Because you see, there's a scene where like when they're falling, you see like the destroyed remnants of like one of the old school donkey, car you know, level.
01:19:54
AssholeSweatlord
Could you imagine? And it's like, dude, it's like... do this like
01:19:59
AssholeSweatlord
It's like, could you imagine if it's like if it's like Last of Us 2 when you're Abby fighting against Ellie and it's impossible?
01:20:01
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:20:03
28dongslater
Ha ha ha ha ha! ah
01:20:04
Steve-O
Oh, man.
01:20:06
AssholeSweatlord
It's just like that. And it's just like, oh god, I gotta fight fucking Super Mario?
01:20:08
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:20:09
28dongslater
I keep throwing barrels.
01:20:11
AssholeSweatlord
Nah, dude.
01:20:11
28dongslater
I keep throwing barrels at him. Stopping him.
01:20:14
AssholeSweatlord
But he just fucking bodies you every time because it's fucking Mario cause he's and he's godlike because he's fucking Mario. Oh man, I would love that.
01:20:20
28dongslater
That's pretty cool. That would be neat.
01:20:22
Steve-O
And then you have to go to to ah California.
01:20:22
28dongslater
That would be very neat.
01:20:23
AssholeSweatlord
But there's no there's no way there's no way they make you fight Mario at the end, Devin. You're crazy.
01:20:27
Steve-O
Here's the thing. Here's my theory. Okay. So like they start up and they're like Donkey Kong works at like kind of like a construction sort of thing. Right?
01:20:34
DeeBo
Just explaining Wrecking Ralph.
01:20:35
Steve-O
Like...
01:20:36
28dongslater
this is There's a lot here, man.
01:20:37
Steve-O
No, it I yeah, but I so if you're familiar with Wrecking Crew, one of the original old school Nintendo games, Foreman Spike is the bad guy of that.
01:20:45
28dongslater
Yes, sir.
01:20:47
Steve-O
I would not be surprised if Foreman Spike is the bad guy of Donkey Kong Bonanza. And that's like the secret end boss. But he looks like Mario. That's the fucking thing. He looks like Mario.
01:20:59
28dongslater
See, I think he works construction, but he's like a drifter and he's going to find a pair of sunglasses and he's going to realize everybody's an alien around him.
01:21:07
Steve-O
The thing that i've I wouldn't be surprised is is if it it does have some weird alien stuff because I was like listening to the music and i was watching some of the boss fights and it's very reminiscent of like Splatoon almost.
01:21:07
28dongslater
And.
01:21:15
28dongslater
Whoa.
01:21:22
28dongslater
Hmm.
01:21:23
Steve-O
And I was like, is this a Splatoon like style?
01:21:23
28dongslater
He's going to...
01:21:27
Steve-O
Like did the Splatoon team make this?
01:21:29
28dongslater
He's going to scene where he's like, you, normal. You, all fucked up.
01:21:34
Steve-O
Oh, fuck up.
01:21:36
28dongslater
And he's going to fight Diddy Kong in an alley.
01:21:38
Steve-O
You're a fucking Donkey Kong.
01:21:41
28dongslater
Ha ha ha ha ha.
01:21:44
Steve-O
I'm excited, though. It looks really good. it
01:21:46
AssholeSweatlord
It looks amazing, dude. Are you kidding me?
01:21:48
DeeBo
That game looks like it's going to shot shoot me right in the first place in the famous movie.
01:21:48
Steve-O
that That end part.
01:21:48
AssholeSweatlord
Yo, yo, Steve.
01:21:53
AssholeSweatlord
Steve, is it like, listen, this is why I'm like, um this is like a win-win situation for me, because like, if it was bad, then I win, then I beat you and that tiny little thing.
01:21:54
DeeBo
That's what it looks like.
01:21:59
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:22:03
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
01:22:04
AssholeSweatlord
and And if it's good, then I get a really good fucking Donkey Kong game, which is like, is just a win, you know?
01:22:08
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:22:11
AssholeSweatlord
So I'm okay with it.
01:22:11
DeeBo
Yeah, and and again, it doesn't just look, to me, it doesn't just look good. This looks, like, outstanding. Like, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I thought about buying a Switch.
01:22:19
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
01:22:20
Steve-O
it's It's got some of the red faction gorilla stuff where everything is destructible.
01:22:25
DeeBo
I see what you did there.
01:22:25
28dongslater
Oh, whoa.
01:22:26
DeeBo
a google Gorilla?
01:22:26
Steve-O
Yeah. Oh, you know what?
01:22:28
DeeBo
Gorilla?
01:22:28
Steve-O
didn't even pick that up, Devin.
01:22:29
28dongslater
Whoa, Steve.
01:22:29
Steve-O
Holy shit. Yeah, no.
01:22:30
28dongslater
Hell of a
01:22:31
Steve-O
Donkey Kong can, like, destroy everything, and it looks awesome. Like, it's going to be super fun, and...
Industry Rumors and Future Projects
01:22:38
Steve-O
You know, that's goingnna be that's going to be the Switch 2's Breath of the Wild.
01:22:42
Steve-O
That's the one that's going to keep people playing for weeks and weeks and weeks until the next game comes out, hopefully. Because right now, Mario Kart World, it ain't doing it.
01:22:51
AssholeSweatlord
Until Ocarina of Time remake comes out.
01:22:51
Steve-O
It's it's pushing me away. We're going to time remake Shadow Drops and Rain Wins.
01:22:57
AssholeSweatlord
And then we and know no and then we fucking we call the cops on Rain and have them arrest him immediately.
01:23:00
Steve-O
We have to. How did he know?
01:23:02
28dongslater
Yeah, that's fair.
01:23:02
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah.
01:23:03
28dongslater
Call ICE. Get him deported.
01:23:05
Steve-O
ah don't.
01:23:05
AssholeSweatlord
yeah
01:23:05
DeeBo
We'll see.
01:23:06
Steve-O
know No,
01:23:06
28dongslater
Get deported.
01:23:08
Steve-O
ah
01:23:09
28dongslater
Scandriano is a Honduras name.
01:23:12
Steve-O
God damn it.
01:23:13
28dongslater
Honduran. Get him out here.
01:23:16
Steve-O
No.
01:23:19
28dongslater
We wouldn't do that to you, Rain. That's a joke.
01:23:22
Steve-O
He's not listening.
01:23:23
AssholeSweatlord
That's fucking funny.
01:23:24
28dongslater
Yeah, you might be. never know.
01:23:25
Steve-O
ah He listens to everything.
01:23:28
28dongslater
I think he gets a transcript written out in chat GTP and he just reads it.
01:23:28
Steve-O
He's like.
01:23:32
28dongslater
and like at night before he falls asleep that's what i think happens but i could be wrong i admit it oh pp don't be
01:23:40
Steve-O
More like chat OPP. Yeah, you know me.
01:23:47
AssholeSweatlord
That's funny.
01:23:47
28dongslater
well enough ai slop uh is there anything else you gentlemen would like to talk about that you've done this week
01:23:54
DeeBo
Uh, to-to-to read some comic books, read some... go John ate some batteries.
01:23:57
28dongslater
I think we we've we've covered it Johnny Batteries.
01:23:57
AssholeSweatlord
ate some batteries.
01:24:01
28dongslater
I almost ate batteries watching the Pacers game, um which was the NBA Finals, course.
01:24:01
Steve-O
Johnny Battery.
01:24:06
DeeBo
ah keep thinking you're saying the Patriots game, and I was like, they're not playing, Chris.
01:24:11
28dongslater
Devin!
01:24:12
AssholeSweatlord
Ew.
01:24:12
DeeBo
He's retired.
01:24:13
28dongslater
Indiana!
01:24:14
DeeBo
Yeah, Indiana.
01:24:14
28dongslater
Indiana.
01:24:15
Steve-O
Indiana, let it go.
01:24:15
28dongslater
Indiana.
01:24:15
DeeBo
Ew.
01:24:17
28dongslater
Indiana.
01:24:18
AssholeSweatlord
Ew, Chris. Ew.
01:24:20
DeeBo
Ew.
01:24:20
Steve-O
Crap.
01:24:22
28dongslater
I like them. I like their spunk.
01:24:23
DeeBo
forget about it cause I said forget about it Chris I said forget about cause my god so
01:24:24
28dongslater
Ew.
01:24:25
Steve-O
cra
01:24:26
AssholeSweatlord
Hell, Crest.
01:24:26
Steve-O
Forgot about crap.
01:24:27
AssholeSweatlord
oh
01:24:28
28dongslater
forget about it Chris forget about Chris I don't even know what we're talking about anymore
01:24:28
AssholeSweatlord
Oh.
01:24:30
Steve-O
Forgot about it
01:24:30
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, a forget about a Kuh. Forget about a Kuh. Forget about a Kuh.
01:24:36
Steve-O
This is good content. This is good. This good stuff.
01:24:38
DeeBo
but
01:24:39
Steve-O
Right here.
01:24:39
DeeBo
many alright you wanna go over some of the news yeah yeah too much Val Kilmer uh
01:24:40
28dongslater
okay yes a lot of Val Kilmer pictures here boy
01:24:42
Steve-O
News and trailer, please.
01:24:47
AssholeSweatlord
and
01:24:48
Steve-O
You got scroll up past the kilner.
01:24:49
AssholeSweatlord
ah You mean too much aura? There could not be enough aura.
01:24:52
DeeBo
So round and round we go, Chris.
01:24:52
Steve-O
Dude, rip the king.
01:24:54
DeeBo
Another week, another rumor about Mindhunter potentially coming back. um This is the blast.
01:24:59
28dongslater
This is the blood-borne of television. He's an
01:25:02
AssholeSweatlord
a
01:25:03
Steve-O
but
01:25:03
AssholeSweatlord
It really is. except except unlike except Except unlike fucking Miyazaki, Fincher just doesn't...
01:25:06
DeeBo
but
01:25:13
AssholeSweatlord
It seems like he just doesn't want to do Mindhunter anymore.
01:25:15
28dongslater
asshole. He's way bigger asshole.
01:25:16
AssholeSweatlord
And people... and people ah feel like people want him to do it, and he probably has some ideas, he just doesn't want to do it. That's what it seems like.
01:25:21
DeeBo
So the the new rumor is, uh, he's so the quote, so look, you know, I had a meeting with David Fincher in his office a few months ago and he said to me that there's a chance that may come back as if as three, two hour movies.
01:25:36
DeeBo
But I think, you know, it's just a chance the writers that are working, but David has to be happy with the scripts.
01:25:42
28dongslater
So he's shooting a sequel to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood right now, or at least soon. So this would have to happen, obviously, after that even gets released.
01:25:51
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:25:53
28dongslater
So what?
01:25:53
DeeBo
Chris, you're going to be 73-year-old man by the time.
01:25:54
28dongslater
Next?
01:25:57
28dongslater
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it, Devin.
01:25:58
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:25:58
28dongslater
This is just as blown smoke on my bunghole don't need it. don't need it.
01:26:03
DeeBo
Oh, yeah. ah yeah So I didn't actually watch this because, kind of like Chris, there are some musical biopics that I just don't have any interest in.
01:26:14
DeeBo
And I didn't watch the Bruce Springsteen trailer.
01:26:18
AssholeSweatlord
It looks bad, dude.
01:26:18
Steve-O
ah
01:26:19
28dongslater
I don't give a fuck.
01:26:21
AssholeSweatlord
It really doesn't look good.
01:26:22
28dongslater
I love Bruce Springsteen.
01:26:22
DeeBo
Jeremy Allen White.
01:26:23
28dongslater
I love his music, but i I don't need to see a movie.
01:26:26
AssholeSweatlord
The boss.
01:26:27
28dongslater
I don't really see a movie about him.
01:26:28
AssholeSweatlord
You love the boss, Chris?
01:26:29
DeeBo
yeah i give it a about can i yeah I just want to see Bruce Springsteen reacting to that scene in The Predator.
01:26:29
28dongslater
I do like the boss. The boss.
01:26:30
AssholeSweatlord
The boss.
01:26:32
28dongslater
Hey, boss.
01:26:36
DeeBo
In The Punisher. Yeah.
01:26:37
28dongslater
Well, if a predator shows up in this movie, I i will see it.
01:26:37
Steve-O
no
01:26:41
Steve-O
Yeah, honestly, I think you just made a fucking amazing movie, damn it.
01:26:46
28dongslater
Like he's carrying a weapon, like he he loses his guitar and he like accidentally picks up a ah machine gun.
01:26:51
DeeBo
He goes, the Predator's here for me?
01:26:53
Steve-O
but They told us you were the boss.
01:26:56
DeeBo
yeah
01:26:57
28dongslater
Blinded by the light, it's written because the laser that's being shined his eyes.
01:27:01
Steve-O
We're all good dudes, I know. We're in the night. oh
01:27:08
AssholeSweatlord
you yeah
01:27:08
DeeBo
yeah You hear that weird little predator crackle.
01:27:08
Steve-O
you is
01:27:09
28dongslater
Predator in the net pit.
01:27:14
DeeBo
Oh, God. So, you know, I did like the Toxic Avenger trailer.
01:27:15
28dongslater
Anyway.
01:27:16
Steve-O
but give him a pistol because he wins
01:27:22
DeeBo
It does look like it looks. I don't think anyone's going to be expecting cinema here.
01:27:30
Steve-O
cinema
01:27:32
DeeBo
um But I think there's a place for this, for movies like this.
01:27:37
Steve-O
I watched, I watched this. I agree with you. It does look very fun. Um, what's his name? Frodo.
01:27:44
28dongslater
Frodo.
01:27:44
DeeBo
Yes, Elijah Wood.
01:27:44
28dongslater
Elijah Wood.
01:27:44
Steve-O
What's it? Yeah.
01:27:45
AssholeSweatlord
Frodo.
01:27:45
Steve-O
Elijah Wood, man, Elijah Wood popped up and I'm like, that's fun.
01:27:46
28dongslater
Elijah Wood.
01:27:47
AssholeSweatlord
Frodo.
01:27:48
Steve-O
That's fun. Casting. Let's go. yeah.
01:27:51
DeeBo
Yeah. it just This movie's like... show the that This movie technically came out like two, three years ago something like that.
01:27:59
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:27:59
DeeBo
like yeah
01:27:59
28dongslater
Yeah, well, it was made two or three years ago and couldn't find a distributor because nobody bought it at Tribeca. Where the hell is it?
01:28:08
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Cans or one one of those shows.
01:28:11
28dongslater
Yeah.
01:28:11
Steve-O
Yeah, wait, who ended up being one of the producers? I'm trying to remember that the list of producers and the bloody disgusting.
01:28:14
AssholeSweatlord
Thank you.
01:28:16
28dongslater
Well, the director is a musician, right? An ex-musician?
01:28:21
Steve-O
It's Bruce Springsteen.
01:28:21
DeeBo
Oh, Rob Zombie? ah
01:28:24
28dongslater
He's from Jersey. That makes sense.
01:28:26
DeeBo
Oh. Yeah, let me go with the Toxic Avenger.
01:28:31
28dongslater
I thought he was a... I thought it was a... Macon Blair? No, make it I know Macon Blair is. Macon Blair... He wrote and directed Blue Ruin, which is...
01:28:42
28dongslater
Man, that's a turn. Yeah.
01:28:43
DeeBo
Whoa, yeah, that's intense.
01:28:46
28dongslater
And Green Room.
01:28:47
DeeBo
Whoa!
01:28:49
28dongslater
Wow.
01:28:50
DeeBo
this movie's bad? i don't believe it.
01:28:53
28dongslater
Yeah, he wrote Green Room.
01:28:53
DeeBo
And that being said, like, apparently it's bad. They're like, this movie's...
01:28:57
28dongslater
It's, you know, um yeah, it makes sense.
01:28:59
DeeBo
But is it? I don't, yeah, it's... I'm on the fence. um But to me, I don't know if you guys found the time. But that weapons trailer, like trailer two, looks so fucking...
01:29:10
28dongslater
Yeah, that that looks fucking wild.
01:29:12
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:29:15
DeeBo
Also, this screen grab...
01:29:15
AssholeSweatlord
i can't yeah i didn't want I didn't want to watch the trailers anymore after that one trailer.
01:29:20
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:29:20
28dongslater
It's kind of given me the monsters are coming on Maple Street vibes.
01:29:20
DeeBo
i yeah
01:29:25
Steve-O
Mmm. Classic.
01:29:26
28dongslater
and Which i i love that Twilight Zone episode so much. um And it's scary.
01:29:33
DeeBo
It doesn't... I don't think this trailer gives anything away.
01:29:40
DeeBo
it's just it does give you more, obviously, but like it makes it more intriguing to me. like I think Josh Brolin is going to be awesome in this.
01:29:51
28dongslater
I think there's a, I've noticed a few films coming out now that really play off of anxiety and paranoia. Like those are the big key emotions.
01:29:58
DeeBo
Yeah. Oh, that's weird. I wonder why.
01:30:01
28dongslater
ah
01:30:01
Steve-O
so
01:30:02
DeeBo
yeah
01:30:03
28dongslater
um Eddington being one and this trailer being the other.
01:30:04
DeeBo
Crazy.
01:30:07
28dongslater
Like they're very much like this tension that's rising.
01:30:09
DeeBo
Actually, did we talk about... I don't know how I feel about that second trailer.
01:30:13
28dongslater
Oh, I'm in baby. Yeah.
01:30:15
DeeBo
It's not that I'm not in. It's just I'm like...
01:30:18
28dongslater
That last scene of the trailer with the machine gun. I'm in.
01:30:23
DeeBo
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
01:30:25
28dongslater
I am in.
01:30:26
DeeBo
I'm not out. I just thought I'd be more in, I think.
01:30:29
28dongslater
that that That last, I just know that's a last act crazy movie.
01:30:33
DeeBo
Yeah. like Like how weapons, this trailer, I'm like, oh, I'm...
01:30:34
28dongslater
It's going to go nuts.
01:30:38
DeeBo
Now I'm like viciously in. i was hoping I was going to be that for Eddington.
01:30:42
28dongslater
To be honest, Devin, I think I was viciously in with the weird teaser of them just running.
01:30:46
DeeBo
to a that's success Yeah, yeah.
01:30:47
28dongslater
and
01:30:47
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:30:47
28dongslater
in the neighborhood that was like so cool uh and seeing josh brolin's face in the reflection of the screen that you're watching is is a choice as a hell of a choice um but yeah i feel like there's a lot of anxiety and paranoia and that's the crux of the horror in this movie um great stuff great stuff that looks awesome
01:30:50
DeeBo
yeah
01:31:04
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:31:09
DeeBo
Yeah. ah Some fun news. This is something I just kind of didn't think was going to happen. ah But I'm glad it is. Apparently...
01:31:23
DeeBo
The Punisher is going to show up in the new Spider-Man movie, which is fun.
01:31:28
28dongslater
Hmm, Baron
01:31:30
DeeBo
I really like John. John Bernthal is one of those guys where I'm just like, I'm always happy to see him.
01:31:36
28dongslater
Yeah, i agree.
01:31:36
DeeBo
He doesn't need to be the lead. He doesn't need to be. He just needs to be there for a few minutes and I'm going to be enjoying.
01:31:43
28dongslater
you know You know what really did it, Devin?
01:31:43
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:31:45
28dongslater
It was his performance in Wolf of Wall Street.
01:31:48
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:31:48
28dongslater
It was one of the funnier ones. He reminded me of people I went to high school with.
01:31:53
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:31:54
28dongslater
He fucking nailed that. That was just genius and hilarious.
01:31:57
DeeBo
I think same with baby driver too.
01:31:59
Steve-O
yeah
01:31:59
28dongslater
Oh, yeah, that's true. Good villain.
01:32:02
DeeBo
Where I think Tim, Tim noted this, but I'm going to steal, I'm going to steal it from Tim where he has the best line in the movie where he says, I'm leaving. And if you don't see me again, I'm probably dead.
01:32:12
DeeBo
And you never see him again for the rest of the movie, which is hilarious.
01:32:14
28dongslater
That is funny.
01:32:17
DeeBo
Hilarious.
01:32:17
28dongslater
that is funny
01:32:21
DeeBo
Uh, yeah. And, uh, some, uh, less uplifting news. Marathon delayed indefinitely.
01:32:28
AssholeSweatlord
You mean, no, that's that's actually pretty uplifting news, I think, to be honest.
01:32:31
DeeBo
I guess where they're just going to change the entire art style. So no one can make them feel bad.
01:32:35
Steve-O
Yeah, they have
01:32:35
AssholeSweatlord
No, no, I think, dude, to be honest, I think they're just going end up canceling it, which probably might be for the, would be for the best.
01:32:40
Steve-O
to. would not be surprised.
01:32:41
DeeBo
Oh, man. Dude, that's gotta to be it though. Like what can the, what can Bungie do except crawl back?
01:32:47
AssholeSweatlord
Nah, they're dead.
01:32:49
DeeBo
Like you think the studio's
01:32:49
AssholeSweatlord
unless Unless they finally cave in. like Dude, watch, watch because like there could be a a situation, and it might be right now, where both Microsoft and Bungie are at rock bottom, and they just join forces again to do and do a Halo.
01:33:03
DeeBo
but no Wait, actually, wait, wait, wait, hold on, on.
01:33:05
28dongslater
do a Halo.
01:33:05
AssholeSweatlord
Which, I mean, I wouldn't hate. I wouldn't hate that. i wouldn't hate that.
01:33:09
DeeBo
And would it really matter? Because we all know the new Halo is going to probably be on the PS5.
01:33:16
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, I mean, that that could be the thing, right? That marries them together.
01:33:19
28dongslater
That's really breaking the glass, isn't it?
01:33:21
DeeBo
That really is, yeah.
01:33:23
AssholeSweatlord
Wouldn't that be hilarious, though?
01:33:23
28dongslater
Emergency.
01:33:24
AssholeSweatlord
Like, that's just like, oh my god, really?
01:33:24
28dongslater
All
01:33:26
AssholeSweatlord
like really But it's like yeah Bungie kind of put themselves in this position and they they were they've been shooting themselves in the foot ever since they left Microsoft to be honest.
01:33:34
28dongslater
right, that's it.
01:33:35
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:33:35
28dongslater
We're doing a halo.
01:33:36
AssholeSweatlord
Because how do you leave Microsoft and then you're happy and and fucking go with Activision after that? like hows that How's that better? You know?
01:33:42
Steve-O
And then Microsoft back bought Activision and they kept running. and
01:33:46
AssholeSweatlord
Yeah, and then they free themselves of Activision. They liberate themselves. Fucking chains broken. Finally.
01:33:52
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:33:53
AssholeSweatlord
Again. And then they fucking let themselves be bought by Sony where they Where they act like they're the fucking OGs and say that the fucking Last of Us multiplayer game isn't good enough.
01:33:59
DeeBo
yeah
01:34:04
AssholeSweatlord
Kill it. And now now look at them.
01:34:07
Steve-O
They have to get their game killed.
01:34:08
AssholeSweatlord
John Stone, he's gotta to be fucking, he's gotta hold this L, this $2 billion dollar L.
01:34:12
Steve-O
oh
01:34:13
28dongslater
I think he's ah walking.
01:34:14
AssholeSweatlord
You know?
01:34:15
28dongslater
He's going to be walking down a hallway furiously to someone's office tomorrow.
01:34:20
AssholeSweatlord
Oh, yeah.
01:34:21
28dongslater
That's my theory. Like he, I can hear his pants swishing back and forth.
01:34:22
AssholeSweatlord
For sure.
01:34:27
28dongslater
That's how fast he's moving. He's going to open that door. He's going to close it. He's going to sit down. he's like, I no longer trust your ability to arrange market trends.
01:34:37
DeeBo
yeah
01:34:38
28dongslater
That's going to be it. That's it.
01:34:41
Steve-O
What do they want?
01:34:41
28dongslater
ah no I no longer trust your ability.
01:34:45
DeeBo
So there's also, I didn't post this.
01:34:46
AssholeSweatlord
That's fucking funny. Kill
01:34:48
DeeBo
Chris, you talked about it a little bit.
01:34:51
28dongslater
I did.
01:34:51
DeeBo
This is the most pinch of salt rumor, I think, until we hear more, but there's a juicy little rumor that Sony is interested in buying...
01:35:04
DeeBo
WB's streaming games and studios de division because like they just want that god damn they heard he sings but no they can't prove it yeah yeah
01:35:11
28dongslater
even bigger rumor, it's because they just want the frog.
01:35:17
28dongslater
They heard he sings and dances and they want to buy it.
01:35:20
Steve-O
Now, Chris knows this because Chris owns stock in Sony. So he was at the board meeting, the investors call.
01:35:27
DeeBo
yeah yeah Chris was on that call I have three shares yeah
01:35:28
28dongslater
yeah There has been, there's been significant movement after we made our voices heard during that festival.
01:35:34
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:35:36
28dongslater
Okay. Um, no, I,
01:35:37
Steve-O
And why don't you owe Batman? Batman.
01:35:41
28dongslater
the only The only thing that gives this rumor any bit of life is the fact that Warner Brothers is actively splitting their company in half, taking all the shitty stuff into one service and all the good stuff into another and in in in lieu of a sale.
01:35:48
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:35:53
DeeBo
And Sony wants to buy all the good stuff.
01:35:56
28dongslater
In lieu of a sale. They're getting rid of all the stuff that doesn't make money and sound profitable. Best product they have, sell it to Sony.
01:36:03
Steve-O
Wait, what?
01:36:04
28dongslater
Have them deal it.
01:36:04
Steve-O
So the the things that they want to keep.
01:36:08
28dongslater
Okay, so that, Steve, that would be, I'll tell you the stuff that they don't want to keep.
01:36:09
DeeBo
He's like the discovery stuff.
01:36:12
28dongslater
I think that's a shorter list.
01:36:13
Steve-O
Okay.
01:36:14
28dongslater
It's like Discovery. It's, I think, the majority of their, was it like the reality, like HGTV stuff, I think?
01:36:26
28dongslater
Oh, I know Discovery is like the main bit of it. um
01:36:30
Steve-O
That's where Zaslav's foundation came from though.
01:36:34
28dongslater
And it's kind of a, he's stabbing him the back.
01:36:37
Steve-O
Damn, wow.
01:36:37
28dongslater
because he's basically kicking them off to die and then sacri sacrificing them to create a better sale object for other companies. Because you have to understand Warner Brothers for like past five years have been 22 billion in debt.
01:36:55
28dongslater
They're seriously in debt and I think they'll still get a good price for these IPs if they sell soon, you know?
01:37:02
Steve-O
oh
01:37:04
28dongslater
But then it has to happen soon. If it doesn't happen soon, it's not You know what i mean?
01:37:08
Steve-O
I think, you know, I think being like, hey, Sony, we will sell you freaking Mortal Kombat, man.
01:37:09
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:37:14
DeeBo
Well, and the split won't even become official until mid-2026.
01:37:18
28dongslater
Right.
01:37:22
DeeBo
And it's like it's still interesting because I don't know. Let's just assume it's true, right? Sony's like, we're going buy it. like I don't know if they're buying like the WB Studios or if they're buying like the IP as well.
01:37:36
28dongslater
All of it.
01:37:37
DeeBo
Like, yeah, it's like would if they buy Netherrealm, it's like are they buying Mortal Kombat? If they buy...
01:37:43
28dongslater
It would be DC Comics. It would be all of it.
01:37:44
DeeBo
Yeah, like are they buying DC Comics? Like is Sony going to own Batman, the IP?
01:37:47
Steve-O
That's wild.
01:37:47
28dongslater
Yeah.
01:37:50
Steve-O
Do they own the Animaniacs, Chris? Do they get to open up that fucking water tower and let those little freaks run around?
01:37:58
28dongslater
I fear the man who has to open that tower.
01:38:00
Steve-O
my God.
01:38:01
DeeBo
Yeah. They're going to own...
01:38:03
Steve-O
They're putting Bloodborne 2 in there.
01:38:05
28dongslater
Oh, man.
01:38:05
AssholeSweatlord
Amen.
01:38:05
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:38:07
28dongslater
Hey, maybe with Sony they'll fucking make it or just keep it in there forever with the Animaniacs and it'll never come out again. That's probably more apropos.
01:38:15
DeeBo
yeah They'll get out eventually. That's kind of the fun part.
01:38:18
28dongslater
No, they won't. They're dead in there, Devin.
01:38:20
Steve-O
Oh, no.
01:38:20
28dongslater
They're fucking dead.
01:38:21
DeeBo
Oh my god, it's Yakko and Wacko Skulls.
01:38:22
28dongslater
They've suffocated. They didn't keep the door open a crack. They closed it completely. They they can't breathe in there.
01:38:31
Steve-O
oh da
01:38:32
DeeBo
Yeah, but...
01:38:33
28dongslater
That's why they're trying to sell the company. Nobody wants to open that vault. because they know they're dead in there. just It would stink.
01:38:40
DeeBo
It's like and it's an open secret.
01:38:40
28dongslater
It would stink.
01:38:42
DeeBo
Everybody knows, but nobody just wants to...
01:38:44
28dongslater
Zaslav has the key, but he's like, it's going stink.
01:38:48
DeeBo
yeah We'll wait until they're just dust. Yeah. But it's obviously just a fun little um little rumor. um I do recall Sony was like a definite bidder for Fox.
01:39:03
DeeBo
Like when that was a thing. Like they wanted Fox. And...
01:39:07
28dongslater
That's why i'm thinking this might have some validity because they are in like a buy mode where they're just buying companies.
01:39:11
DeeBo
Yeah, they seem like they're in a buy mode.
01:39:14
Steve-O
content
01:39:14
DeeBo
But that was...
01:39:15
28dongslater
Yeah.
01:39:16
DeeBo
And they're like, we just need another Spider-Man.
01:39:16
28dongslater
Yeah.
01:39:17
DeeBo
Dude, but like, okay. I'm just being that guy, right? But it's like, do we think there's some sort of clause where like Sony wouldn't be allowed to own both the rights to like fucking Batman and Superman and Spider-Man movies?
01:39:37
Steve-O
Maybe that's the, maybe that's the link.
01:39:37
AssholeSweatlord
That would be crazy.
01:39:38
DeeBo
they what How weird would that be, dude?
01:39:40
Steve-O
Maybe that's, maybe James guns pushing for that.
01:39:40
28dongslater
Why not?
01:39:44
DeeBo
He's like, dude, I think James Gunn is is all to he's all for not having to ever deal with David Zablon.
01:39:45
28dongslater
He might might be better leadership.
01:39:51
DeeBo
I just can't imagine wanting to be in the same business room, like in the same room talking business with that fucking guy.
01:39:52
28dongslater
Yes.
01:39:52
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:39:55
Steve-O
He's like, sell us.
01:40:00
28dongslater
i imagine he ought like his physicality changes whenever he has to find out he has to have like a phone meeting with him. like ah He's probably just sits in there and he's like, oh, okay.
01:40:07
DeeBo
oh He just sighs. He's like, I just need...
01:40:10
Steve-O
Let me turn it on. Let me turn it on.
01:40:12
28dongslater
He's going to prepare himself.
01:40:12
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:40:13
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:40:14
28dongslater
Like, that's...
01:40:15
DeeBo
Hey, James, I have a bunch of bad ideas.
01:40:15
28dongslater
Yes.
01:40:17
DeeBo
Do you have 30 minutes? Like, yeah, man.
01:40:19
28dongslater
Of course. Anything for you, Dave?
01:40:21
Steve-O
Zazzy baby.
01:40:25
DeeBo
I fucking hate this guy. It's so goddamn much.
01:40:27
28dongslater
So you want Superman to fight a giant spider?
01:40:27
DeeBo
Hey. No, no, I want it
01:40:30
28dongslater
Okay.
01:40:30
Steve-O
I want him to snap this bad guy's neck. The last guy did it. It did Buko books.
01:40:38
28dongslater
Yeah, we'll work that in into the director's cut that comes out in five years. That'll be fine.
01:40:41
DeeBo
now. Now.
01:40:43
Steve-O
I want it right now.
01:40:44
DeeBo
and and now
01:40:44
28dongslater
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe or i got it'll work.
01:40:47
DeeBo
And call it Max.
01:40:48
28dongslater
It'll be an alien.
01:40:49
Steve-O
Wait, wait, wait.
01:40:49
28dongslater
All right.
01:40:49
DeeBo
Get rid it.
01:40:50
Steve-O
no Don't call it Max.
01:40:51
28dongslater
Okay, I'm going to call it Max.
01:40:52
DeeBo
Well, I'll change my mind in six years after I've done damage.
01:40:56
28dongslater
Yeah, that must be a nerve-wracking phone call for me.
01:40:58
DeeBo
Call it Man. Get rid of Super.
01:41:00
28dongslater
Oh, he's got a...
01:41:00
Steve-O
Oh, call it Super Max.
01:41:03
DeeBo
Let's see. Ah, we should make that Green Arrow movie with Jack Black or whatever the fuck that thing was going to be.
01:41:05
28dongslater
he's got
01:41:10
DeeBo
Remember that?
01:41:11
Steve-O
Dude, kids are loving the chicken, Jackie.
01:41:14
DeeBo
Oh, God. Damn it. Maybe he's on to something. That's makes the big bucks.
01:41:20
28dongslater
well He's got that Smurf movie coming out, so he knows he's doing.
01:41:25
DeeBo
Who's Aslob or Jack Black?
01:41:27
28dongslater
It's Aslov. I think that's a WB product.
01:41:29
DeeBo
Oh, man. Whatever. Yeah, again. we we know We know my opinion.
01:41:33
28dongslater
I'm going to tell you, after watching the studio, and I've seen... I watched the Smurfs trailer in the finals when it was on.
01:41:38
DeeBo
Ha, ha, ha.
01:41:39
28dongslater
It looked exactly like the Kool-Aid trailer in the studio.
01:41:42
Steve-O
Oh.
01:41:42
DeeBo
Hell yeah, dude.
01:41:43
28dongslater
but There was no different...
01:41:44
DeeBo
Oh, did I talk? I did watch. I watched the first episode because it was like free on whatever.
01:41:50
Steve-O
Of studio.
01:41:51
DeeBo
Yeah. And I was like, oh, this is really good. And then I forgot I didn't have up TV anymore. And I was like, no okay
01:41:57
28dongslater
it's It's over, i think. You can wrap her all up.
01:41:59
DeeBo
no, Yeah. So I just got ah Yeah, I just would have to purchase Apple TV.
01:42:03
28dongslater
I think it started a little stronger than it ended.
01:42:07
Steve-O
That's fair.
01:42:08
28dongslater
I think that first episode of Martin Scorsese is really good.
01:42:10
Steve-O
It's so funny.
01:42:13
28dongslater
And that's like the best episode, I think. Hands down.
01:42:19
28dongslater
Is there anything else?
01:42:20
DeeBo
I don't know. It's hot. It's hot. and there's some Yeah, that's the problem.
01:42:24
28dongslater
All these Val Kilmer pictures, of course, is hot.
01:42:28
DeeBo
is I was like, what other news? And it was just Mystique and and Batman pictures.
01:42:33
28dongslater
Damn.
01:42:34
DeeBo
All right.
01:42:35
28dongslater
That butt picture is like the first thing you see on this list.
01:42:37
DeeBo
What is that?
01:42:38
Steve-O
ah
01:42:39
DeeBo
who Which one is that?
01:42:40
Steve-O
that's Val Kilmer's butt so it's like so if you look in the corner it shows you what movie is what it looks like this gift just cuts when it gets to the Batman and Robin stuff this person obviously did not care for whatever montage this was of the bat butts so they just wanted the Kilmer
01:42:56
28dongslater
Watch his hair.
01:42:56
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, I see it, dude.
01:42:56
28dongslater
Look at
01:42:58
DeeBo
No, you see that butt, dude.
01:42:59
28dongslater
that butt. Actually, I was talking about Rebecca Romain Stamos, but...
01:43:01
DeeBo
What
01:43:04
Steve-O
oh yeah that's what I was talking about too
01:43:05
DeeBo
the hell? Yeah. Yeah. Steve, you just outed yourself big time, buddy.
01:43:12
28dongslater
i mean, it's just, it's like very, it takes up a lot of space. I love it. It's the first thing I saw after the Donkey Kong Bonanza Direct. So it's like, oh, it's little jarring is all.
01:43:23
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:43:23
AssholeSweatlord
Mm-hmm.
01:43:25
Steve-O
This is how John reviews anything now.
01:43:26
28dongslater
This, alright guys, you know what? This, on this Discord, the Donkey Kong Bonanza Direct to Rebecca Remain's butt is like 28 years later.
01:43:36
Steve-O
Donkey Kong butt-nanza.
01:43:37
DeeBo
Fair. Fair. Fair.
01:43:39
28dongslater
Alright, that's the jarringness. that That's the exact experience that I had.
01:43:43
DeeBo
Do you... Is this a spoiler, Chris? that's talk about who who The actor? The guy who plays at the end of the movie?
01:43:54
28dongslater
Um...
01:43:54
DeeBo
don't think it's...
01:43:55
28dongslater
so No, not at all. matter all and at all
01:43:56
DeeBo
No. The guy from Sinners is is in this movie.
01:44:01
28dongslater
Jack O'Connell.
01:44:01
DeeBo
And that guy rules. and We all like that guy.
01:44:04
28dongslater
is He's a hell of an actor. And he's getting a lot of good good movies.
01:44:06
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:44:09
DeeBo
I've only seen him in...
01:44:09
28dongslater
Good looks.
01:44:10
DeeBo
Yeah, I've only seen him in one movie. But I really like that movie. So...
01:44:14
Steve-O
There you go.
01:44:14
28dongslater
Yeah. And he was great in it too.
01:44:17
Steve-O
Two movies now.
01:44:18
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:44:21
28dongslater
I'll let you decide that one, Steve. If he's good at that.
01:44:23
DeeBo
Yeah, Steve. You know what? You gotta go see it for yourself.
01:44:29
28dongslater
See it for yourself.
01:44:30
Steve-O
See it for yourself.
01:44:32
DeeBo
You real...
01:44:33
28dongslater
Do you see? what I want to say.
01:44:36
DeeBo
Do you see?
01:44:36
28dongslater
After you see 28 years later, that's what I'll say. do you see?
01:44:40
Steve-O
Do you see it?
01:44:42
28dongslater
you see? me
01:44:43
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see, i see, and see, I see, I see.
01:44:45
28dongslater
yeah all right, good, and good, good.
01:44:45
DeeBo
Yeah, I fucking saw
01:44:46
28dongslater
Very good, very good.
01:44:46
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a solid, it's solid, it's a good set, it's a solid, good set.
01:44:47
28dongslater
i was just checking. her Had to check. Had to check.
01:44:52
28dongslater
That is a good sign.
01:44:54
Steve-O
All right, I think we're going to call it there, but if you have something you want to talk about, write a letter, drop it in a post box, and then just hope someone writes you back, because we're not.
01:44:54
DeeBo
it.
01:45:01
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
01:45:04
28dongslater
Oh yeah. We don't write letters. No letters here.
01:45:07
Steve-O
next year Next week, we're going to be talking about The Graveyard.
01:45:13
28dongslater
Did we, excuse me?
01:45:13
DeeBo
Are we? and The graveyard? like You know, fun fact.
01:45:15
28dongslater
i don't remember that being on the agenda.
01:45:16
DeeBo
ah Fun fact.
01:45:18
28dongslater
Are you talking about in general? Like the, just, is that like a ah place you want to talk about or is it like all graveyards? Like what?
01:45:26
DeeBo
I thought Steve wants us to talk about the Stephen King movie Graveyard Shift.
01:45:32
28dongslater
I mean, you know, you want to talk about bad Stephen King movies. That's what Guanyan chills.
01:45:37
DeeBo
Silver Bully.
01:45:38
28dongslater
but That's what Guanyan chills for. So.
01:45:42
DeeBo
Yeah, can we do a Galani chill of just bad Stephen King movies?
01:45:45
28dongslater
ah Oh, man.
01:45:46
DeeBo
Because...
01:45:47
Steve-O
Ooh, that's a spinoff episode.
01:45:49
DeeBo
Yes.
01:45:50
Steve-O
king King of the King. And you have to do a tier list of all the Stephen King spinoffs.
01:45:55
28dongslater
Oh, oof.
01:45:59
28dongslater
Every movie is an evil priest.
01:46:01
Steve-O
It part one or The Mist. What's better? All right, there you go.
01:46:05
28dongslater
God, The Mist.
01:46:07
DeeBo
Ah...
01:46:09
Steve-O
Oh, it sounds like this is a viable discussion.
01:46:10
AssholeSweatlord
Actually,
01:46:12
Steve-O
Ooh.
01:46:12
DeeBo
8 part 1's really good, dude.
01:46:13
Steve-O
Ooh.
01:46:14
DeeBo
8 part 1 rules.
01:46:14
28dongslater
I know.
01:46:14
Steve-O
oh
01:46:15
28dongslater
i think The Mist is better. The end of The Mist is phenomenal. It's fucking phenomenal.
01:46:18
DeeBo
Yeah, but it's...
01:46:20
Steve-O
That was one of the movies on that Reddit. I didn't want to read because it's stupid.
01:46:25
DeeBo
Yo, did you just read, like, brain-dead version of that thread? There's so many...
01:46:29
Steve-O
Dude, I will send y'all the link to that because that is...
01:46:31
DeeBo
There's a lot of bad takes, dude.
01:46:32
Steve-O
you know her It's a lot of bad takes.
01:46:32
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:46:34
28dongslater
you've been on Reddit recently, there's been a shitload of bad takes on everything.
01:46:37
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:46:37
Steve-O
Dude, they just ran out of smart people.
01:46:38
28dongslater
from MySpace.
01:46:40
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:46:40
28dongslater
It's all bots, probably.
01:46:42
DeeBo
It is funny that I did fall down a weird well where i was like, I want to watch a YouTube essay about fucking a Silver Bullet.
01:46:42
Steve-O
My...
01:46:51
DeeBo
And then I was like, now I want to watch a YouTube essay video about Graveyard Shift.
01:46:56
28dongslater
work on it, Devin.
01:46:57
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah you you work on that. I'm sure I can find it.
01:47:02
Steve-O
All right, everybody.
01:47:03
28dongslater
Good night.
01:47:04
Steve-O
So see you at the graveyard next week.
01:47:05
DeeBo
Later.
01:47:05
AssholeSweatlord
Good night.
01:47:06
Steve-O
Bye.