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Introductions and Greetings
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DeeBo
Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy podcast for the week of May 19th, 2025. How are you? How you doing? Hope you had good one.
00:00:12
DeeBo
I had a decent one. What are talking about? I don't know, but... Hi, my name, everybody, is Devin Kopech. With me is Steve O'Tiering.
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Steve-O
Hi, my name's Steve O'Tiri.
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DeeBo
We got Chris Kalani.
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werthersoriginal
Happy birthday, baby girl.
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DeeBo
and We got...
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DeeBo
Oh, man, now wal that was all sad. Hey, we got ah we got the Seth of the podcast, John Suarez.
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Dick VanMeat
ah birth of
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Dick VanMeat
in a church or whatever the fuck he says.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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DeeBo
We're in
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Dick VanMeat
I'm not going to say the slur.
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werthersoriginal
that's
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Dick VanMeat
I'm not going to say the slur.
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werthersoriginal
There are children right here.
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DeeBo
touch. Do you like vanilla?
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werthersoriginal
it's easier.
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Dick VanMeat
Say vanilla.
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DeeBo
Say vanilla, I say you should.
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Dick VanMeat
It'll be easier.
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werthersoriginal
have to keep eating or I'll die.
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Steve-O
on
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DeeBo
I'm not in it. I'm shocked.
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Steve-O
I refuse to make chocolate cake.
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Dick VanMeat
I used to be a cop, you know.
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DeeBo
I got bit by a cordyceps gypsy that keep losing all this weight. you
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Steve-O
God damn.
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DeeBo
but its
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Steve-O
I make good cake.
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Dick VanMeat
God damn.
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werthersoriginal
so You don't make good cakes. That look good. I need that cake.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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Dick VanMeat
Oh, his case. That's cake.
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Steve-O
Happy birthday, Eli.
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werthersoriginal
Yeah. That's fucking big a cake.
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Dick VanMeat
He wasn't.
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werthersoriginal
You know that's good, right?
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DeeBo
Yeah, dude. Oh, man. sometimes I hear the rumor is is bigots make the best cakes.
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Dick VanMeat
He wasn't a cop.
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werthersoriginal
Yeah, it's that southern lady who makes all that food.
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DeeBo
You go to one of them heavy eye Italian...
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Steve-O
Oh, Paula.
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werthersoriginal
Paula Deen. Paula Deen.
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Steve-O
Allegedly.
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Dick VanMeat
Paula Deen, baby.
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Steve-O
I'm just saying that just in case she listens to a podcast one day and is like, motherfucker, get my lawyer.
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werthersoriginal
like
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werthersoriginal
She does.
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werthersoriginal
ah It probably would have been a lot more slurs than that conversation you're talking about, but yeah, I agree. Allegedly.
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Steve-O
Allegedly.
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DeeBo
Yeah. You can say anything if you can say allegedly after.
Main Discussion: The Last of Us
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werthersoriginal
But we're not here to talk about Paul Dean, we're here to talk about The Last of Us.
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DeeBo
Well, yeah.
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Steve-O
We're here to talk about racist cakes.
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DeeBo
What's new?
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werthersoriginal
right
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DeeBo
What's news, baby? ah you guys been?
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werthersoriginal
we i've been I've been good. Been a lot of good TV, been a lot good movies.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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werthersoriginal
Eating good.
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werthersoriginal
Eating
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Steve-O
Eating good in the neighborhood.
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DeeBo
Yeah. in I had a wedding. Went to a wedding.
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werthersoriginal
shit
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Dick VanMeat
Oh, congratulations.
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DeeBo
Yeah, it wasn't mine, but I went to one and it was, guys, I learned that there is ah difference between Miz and Miss.
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werthersoriginal
Yeah.
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DeeBo
You know, like MS and M-I-S-S?
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Dick VanMeat
Oh, there is.
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werthersoriginal
Mrs.
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Dick VanMeat
What's the difference?
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werthersoriginal
implied that you're not married.
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DeeBo
Well,
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werthersoriginal
Ms. implies that you don't want anyone to know if you're married or not, right?
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Steve-O
I
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DeeBo
apparently, so MS is kind of traditional unwed.
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werthersoriginal
Oh.
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DeeBo
M-I-S-S is you're unwed because you're basically a very young person. Like, you're girl.
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werthersoriginal
Oh.
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DeeBo
You're like, ah or yeah, you're child.
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Dick VanMeat
Little Little Miss.
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werthersoriginal
I guess, oh, interesting.
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DeeBo
Because there was there was some drama at the wedding about the names.
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Steve-O
see
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DeeBo
Somebody was like, I, once it was explained to me, I said, I'll be honest, I'm having a real hard time getting up in arms about that one.
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werthersoriginal
Did you flip a table?
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Dick VanMeat
Yeah, were you mad?
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Steve-O
Was it did where is it from ah the Buzz Lightyear scene where he states that he is Mrs. Nesbitt?
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DeeBo
yes. i sad They played that scene.
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werthersoriginal
Man, that was a lot to that.
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Dick VanMeat
that's That's a deep cut.
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werthersoriginal
There's a lot to it.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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werthersoriginal
It's great.
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Dick VanMeat
That's a deep cut, Steve.
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DeeBo
ah Steve saw through my Cerebro and he he figured it out.
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Steve-O
Yeah, I went into Devin's Mind Palace.
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Dick VanMeat
the
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DeeBo
No! There's an Invader!
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Dick VanMeat
That was a deep cut. I don't
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DeeBo
But I was like like, it was explaining. I was sitting down on the couch and I was like, can you believe that? and And I said, I'll be honest. It's really hard for me to care about that one.
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Dick VanMeat
care.
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DeeBo
i but I wish I could say I was a ride or die, but that's pretty fucking stupid.
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werthersoriginal
Are you more of a Ms. or a Ms. Devin? How would you describe yourself?
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DeeBo
I was always pro-MS.
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werthersoriginal
So I'd say Ms. Ms.
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Steve-O
Let's say Miz and not pro-MS because people, people, yeah, you're you're forget you're going to upset the multiple sclerosis community.
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Dick VanMeat
Miz Nesbitt.
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werthersoriginal
Devin Kopech.
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Dick VanMeat
Miz Nesbitt.
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DeeBo
No, you know what, Steve? I said what I said. i said what I said.
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werthersoriginal
Can I call you, can I refer to you the Ms.
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DeeBo
Allegedly.
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Steve-O
Allegedly might upset.
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DeeBo
Allegedly.
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werthersoriginal
Devin Kopech?
Bungie Controversy and Humorous Anecdotes
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Dick VanMeat
No, miss.
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Steve-O
Ooh, the Miz.
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DeeBo
Oh, that's a...
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werthersoriginal
Can I refer you as that from now on?
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DeeBo
You know what? That would be the one where I'd be a little offended. I'd be don't call me Miz. The WWE superstar, The Miz.
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werthersoriginal
That's the male version of it.
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Steve-O
is
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werthersoriginal
Yeah, you're the man with David Kopech. It's okay. and don You don't want anyone to know. That's the male version of If you want to use it.
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DeeBo
Yeah, I guess, I suppose.
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werthersoriginal
If you want to use it.
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DeeBo
Who could say, guys? Who could say?
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werthersoriginal
If you're tired of Mr., or in your case, you Doctor?
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DeeBo
You know I'd say call me Macro.
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Steve-O
Mr. Doctor or just sir.
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DeeBo
Monster. Call me Monster.
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werthersoriginal
Sir. Sir Chris Galante. Yeah, it does...
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Steve-O
It stings a little bit when someone calls you a sir.
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Dick VanMeat
Yeah, dude, that that happens to me sometimes, and I'm just like, man.
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werthersoriginal
Yeah.
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Dick VanMeat
Sir?
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DeeBo
Who calls you a sir? Like, children?
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Dick VanMeat
Sir? Sir, yeah sir you sir you left your sir you left your telephone you left your cell phone on the table?
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Steve-O
just like Just people. like Thanks, sir.
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werthersoriginal
Me. Me.
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DeeBo
Yeah?
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Steve-O
Yeah, chris side Chris does it as a power move.
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werthersoriginal
I remember.
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DeeBo
Well, because Chris has the power to just like, you know.
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werthersoriginal
Well, excuse me, sir, if I may just make a point here. um I think personally, I ah just, you know, I feel younger. So I just call everybody, you know, call you guys, sir.
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Steve-O
that's a That is a power move, Chris. it rattles It rattles me because it's like
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werthersoriginal
Yes, sir.
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DeeBo
Oh, my God.
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werthersoriginal
Yes, sir.
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DeeBo
Wait, dude.
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werthersoriginal
Sir, yes, sir.
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Steve-O
why Why are people calling me a sir?
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DeeBo
Dude.
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Steve-O
I'm wearing a fucking Mario Kart shirt.
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DeeBo
he
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werthersoriginal
That.
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Steve-O
Like, what what are you doing?
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Dick VanMeat
Mm-hmm.
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DeeBo
Out of the way, old man. Wait, dude, let me tell you. Let me tell you about this fucking power move Jenny pulled on me at the wedding.
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Steve-O
oh no
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DeeBo
So we're at the wedding. You know, we're just hanging out. You know, we're having a good time. We go to the photo booth. We go to photo booth. We take some, you know, whatever type photos. ah You can text it to yourself.
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DeeBo
She pops it up. She makes eye contact with me and types in every digit of my phone number.
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Dick VanMeat
Damn, that's that's a power move.
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DeeBo
And I was like, ah and she said, do you know mine?
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Steve-O
Wow.
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werthersoriginal
wow
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DeeBo
And I was like, why, why are we doing this?
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Dick VanMeat
Damn, see, she shouldn't ask.
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DeeBo
Why are we having this conversation right now?
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Steve-O
She was a, she was, she was like, I want to throw down or right now.
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Dick VanMeat
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's...
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DeeBo
Dude. Yeah. That's like, I literally, I was like, why are you, why are you trying to ruin a good time, dude? And she's like, try it.
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werthersoriginal
Damn.
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Dick VanMeat
And you don't, you don't, though? You don't?
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DeeBo
She made me, I know, i knew like 70% of it. She has in my defense.
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werthersoriginal
I knew 8.56. Oh, oh.
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DeeBo
No, no, that's the thing. She has a weird, she has like a,
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werthersoriginal
oh
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DeeBo
She has like a Central Jersey fucking cell phone.
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Steve-O
Would it be
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Dick VanMeat
so
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werthersoriginal
7.480, maybe?
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DeeBo
No, it's not 609.
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DeeBo
It's not 856.
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werthersoriginal
Come on! really
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DeeBo
Yeah, starts with the sound. not going to get out of there. But, dude.
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werthersoriginal
don't care. really don't.
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DeeBo
It's like guess or number.
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Dick VanMeat
You're not going to You're not going to You don't want to do You don't want to dox your fiance?
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werthersoriginal
come on but no
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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Steve-O
and Yeah.
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DeeBo
You know, i'll I'll type it.
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Dick VanMeat
717
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DeeBo
I'll type it in. So you guys, if you guys are asked this,
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werthersoriginal
really don't care
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Steve-O
Dude, i don't think I don't think I could give you a phone number right now.
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Dick VanMeat
I mean I know I know Sam's I know Sam's phone number by heart Just because I have to Fill it in all the time Random shit
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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DeeBo
Yeah. Like, but I was like,
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werthersoriginal
i i know
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Dick VanMeat
I'm also already married.
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werthersoriginal
know my my I know my best friend's number by heart, and that's Domino's, baby.
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Steve-O
God damn damn.
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DeeBo
Domino's Oteri. Why is Domino calling you a fucking two a m Huh? Huh?
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werthersoriginal
worry about it.
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DeeBo
Huh? Chris?
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Dick VanMeat
Yeah, I know Sam's.
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werthersoriginal
She's cool.
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DeeBo
I'm hungry.
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Dick VanMeat
I know my sister's and my mom's.
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Steve-O
hey, you want to try our new pizza?
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werthersoriginal
She's got It's
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DeeBo
I'm hungry.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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Steve-O
The last numbers that I memorized were my cell phone and my mom's cell phone.
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DeeBo
I've,
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DeeBo
Okay. All right.
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werthersoriginal
fair.
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Dick VanMeat
Well, you better get cracking, Steve.
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DeeBo
Yeah, you better get cracking.
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Steve-O
With what?
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werthersoriginal
I know
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Steve-O
With what?
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Dick VanMeat
but start You better start memorizing some phone numbers, bud.
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werthersoriginal
i
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werthersoriginal
Actually, believe it or not, if Steve has the same number, I know the last four digits of his number is a word.
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Steve-O
I'm just going be discording people from the future.
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Dick VanMeat
Discord. iBessage.
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Steve-O
i wedged it into people's brains for like a decade.
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werthersoriginal
Yeah, that part I actually do know. ah
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DeeBo
I know my childhood pizza place phone number still.
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werthersoriginal
Really?
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DeeBo
I do know that.
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werthersoriginal
It's Santini's?
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DeeBo
Yeah. It just, yeah, I know Santini's.
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Dick VanMeat
And not your fiance.
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DeeBo
the
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Dick VanMeat
Man, that's a flex. If I ever.
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Steve-O
You should have just dropped Santini's number in.
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DeeBo
I know she's. Yeah.
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werthersoriginal
Why not give business?
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DeeBo
be like
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werthersoriginal
They need it.
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DeeBo
Oh, 228. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can call that number whenever I want.
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Dick VanMeat
You asked for this.
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DeeBo
who has her Yeah.
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Dick VanMeat
You asked for this, Jenny.
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DeeBo
But dude, the fact that she,
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Steve-O
Oh, you want me to put my beloved's phone number in?
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DeeBo
the fact that she just fucking made eye contact with me and then typed in my cell phone number, i was like,
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werthersoriginal
Okay.
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DeeBo
o and the And the guy who was manning the booth was like, damn.
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Steve-O
Damn.
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DeeBo
He's like, oh, you're trouble, buddy. And I was like...
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Steve-O
That's like the equivalent of like, she just opened her purse and handed you a pistol with one bullet in it and spun the chamber.
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Dick VanMeat
Nah, she set you up. Nah, she set you up.
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werthersoriginal
Okay.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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Dick VanMeat
I'm gonna say...
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DeeBo
How
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Dick VanMeat
gonna say she set you up. She memorized it like that morning or something.
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DeeBo
do you think? I don't know.
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Dick VanMeat
Yeah, and set your set your ass up.
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DeeBo
She does not have time.
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Dick VanMeat
She was holding on to that in her back pocket.
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Steve-O
I don't know, man.
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DeeBo
Well...
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Steve-O
ah Sometimes you just get caught in like a fucking like Batman trap where it's like, yeah, i memorized this number. I literally sat down for an entire day and I just repeated your number into a mirror.
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DeeBo
oh
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Steve-O
Devin.
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DeeBo
Oh, by the way, you want to hear the other fucking thing? This was this was nasty. This was mean. So, you know, it was Jenny's brother's wedding, right?
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Steve-O
Hmm.
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DeeBo
So we go to their wedding, obviously, and they're like, hey, ah the bride and groom and immediate family can go get food first. Jenny's like, all right, like you're coming with me.
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DeeBo
was like, oh, okay. And I come, and then all of a sudden, I'm the first one.
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werthersoriginal
Nice.
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DeeBo
And I was like, what the, wait, wait, hold on.
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werthersoriginal
Nice.
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DeeBo
And I fucking, so I said, i am not.
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Dick VanMeat
Sick.
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DeeBo
I said, I refuse to be the fucking first asshole.
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Dick VanMeat
That's a flex.
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Steve-O
You got pushed to the front.
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DeeBo
Yeah. She like, she basically rushed us.
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Dick VanMeat
Yeah, that's a flex, dude.
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DeeBo
And then before I knew it, I had a plate in my hand and I was like, wait, it was like, I was holding, i was like, I was having a flashback and I was like, and I came to, and I was holding the gun to my temple and I was like oh Oh my God.
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DeeBo
I was like, no.
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werthersoriginal
Nice.
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Steve-O
Why am I here?
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DeeBo
I threw the plate on the ground. I was like, I am not eating i before the fucking blind room.
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werthersoriginal
So you went second then, right?
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Steve-O
Is that a tradition? Like the first to eat at the wedding? Like something happens?
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Dick VanMeat
usually no It's usually table one, which is almost always immediate family of the bride or and or groom.
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DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
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werthersoriginal
Table one.
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DeeBo
So it was.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
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Steve-O
Were you at that table?
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DeeBo
No, we were table five. They just had us next to cousins and stuff.
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Dick VanMeat
Yeah, so so I would... Yeah, but yeah I don't know.
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DeeBo
Yeah.
00:10:43
Dick VanMeat
that's That's kind of a weird way to do the wedding, I think. look Because usually you should just go by table.
00:10:47
DeeBo
But it was just the guy... Yeah, the guy just emphasized he's like bridegroom and immediate family first.
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Dick VanMeat
You know, not...
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DeeBo
I it was like, we got up.
00:10:54
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, I don't know about all that.
00:10:55
DeeBo
And it was just the fact that I almost was the first one to eat out of everybody there.
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Steve-O
What?
00:10:56
Dick VanMeat
That's...
00:11:00
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, because that's like, that brings up questions, you know? It's like, do I count? and Do I count?
00:11:03
Steve-O
well
00:11:04
Dick VanMeat
Do I count?
00:11:04
Steve-O
What if you got stopped?
00:11:05
DeeBo
Yeah, Jenny's like...
00:11:05
Dick VanMeat
What's immediate family?
00:11:06
Steve-O
Yeah, like what if somebody came over and like they took your plate and they put a hand up against your chest?
00:11:12
Dick VanMeat
Like, there were table numbers, right, Devin?
00:11:14
werthersoriginal
Yo, a food bouncer?
00:11:15
DeeBo
yeah Yeah, no, no. And then they did, you know, table two, table three, table four.
00:11:18
werthersoriginal
That guy seen some shit.
00:11:20
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:11:20
werthersoriginal
Food bouncer. He's got a little earpiece in him.
00:11:20
Steve-O
I said immediate family.
00:11:25
DeeBo
Like the DJ, he jumps up and stops me. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
00:11:29
Dick VanMeat
yeah Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, buddy.
00:11:32
Steve-O
pal.
00:11:32
Dick VanMeat
i said i said a media family.
00:11:33
DeeBo
what Hey, hey, hey there. Hey there, Porky.
00:11:36
Dick VanMeat
You just you just feel like a fuck you feel like a fat slob that just wanted to get the food before everybody else.
00:11:36
DeeBo
What are you doing?
00:11:36
Steve-O
I was
00:11:41
DeeBo
Yeah, that's kind of what fucking happened.
00:11:42
Steve-O
i was given a family tree in advance. i don't see a branch with your name on it.
00:11:46
Dick VanMeat
I don't see your name. I don't see your name here, bud.
00:11:48
DeeBo
And then Jenny was like, oh, you were first at the you were first at the buffet.
00:11:49
Dick VanMeat
Pal.
00:11:53
DeeBo
And I was like, what the f- this is after she fucking- she was just bullied, dude.
00:11:56
Steve-O
Wait, she said that? She said you were first at the buffet?
00:11:58
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:11:59
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, see?
00:11:59
Steve-O
she You were first at the buffet.
00:11:59
DeeBo
She was like, he's first at the buffet.
00:12:00
Dick VanMeat
She sets you up. ah
00:12:01
Steve-O
Wow, Devin, so eager to eat and yet doesn't even know my phone number.
00:12:03
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, she woke up and shows violent she She chose violence that day, dude.
00:12:05
DeeBo
That's what I mean. She just woke up and just fucking decided to be a dick to me, basically.
00:12:08
Steve-O
ah She really did.
00:12:12
DeeBo
She was rude as shit.
00:12:12
Steve-O
if i If I remember correctly, though, that that was like a, ah that seemed to be like ah an aggro day.
00:12:12
Dick VanMeat
She decided to be toxic as hell.
00:12:15
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:12:15
Dick VanMeat
Which is pretty funny, I think.
00:12:19
DeeBo
Now listen, the phone thing was funny. That was, I was like, stop, dude, stop.
00:12:22
Steve-O
That is very funny.
00:12:25
DeeBo
That's not funny, dude. Shut the fuck up. So I got her back and I bought Doom, the Dark Ages. I said, this will show her.
00:12:33
werthersoriginal
Nice.
00:12:33
Steve-O
That's fair. That's a good way.
00:12:36
DeeBo
said, ah.
00:12:37
werthersoriginal
Smart move.
00:12:38
DeeBo
My state, my state check came in. Federal, one of the tax checks came in.
00:12:41
werthersoriginal
Say you bought it out of spite. It was a spite buy.
00:12:44
DeeBo
and Yeah. I was like, Jenny.
00:12:45
werthersoriginal
Which is a good feeling. Good feeling every once a while.
00:12:49
DeeBo
Oh my God, dude. haven't bought i haven't bought a a new game and a min. A hot min.
00:12:54
Steve-O
How much was Doom?
00:12:54
DeeBo
70. It was like...
00:12:58
Dick VanMeat
Wow.
00:12:59
DeeBo
It wasn't 80. I know. I'm an asshole for spending.
00:13:02
Dick VanMeat
Damn. Yeah, but it wasn't 50, like Claire Obscure. Just saying.
00:13:06
DeeBo
i know. Dude, I almost got Claire, but I was like...
00:13:06
werthersoriginal
That's a fat fly out.
00:13:07
Steve-O
Thank
00:13:09
DeeBo
ah Claire is basically something that was...
00:13:12
Dick VanMeat
My cousin keeps talking to me about it, so i like i have to I have to play it right now.
00:13:16
DeeBo
No, I wouldn't play but I was like, Claire Obscure is definitely something that's going to make me sit down. And I just... After running around... Because I was also like looking at wedding venues and stuff.
00:13:27
DeeBo
just I was like, i just want to fucking sit down and just mace the shit out of things. So yeah, that's what I've been doing in Doom so far. Pretty good.
00:13:37
DeeBo
Pretty good.
00:13:39
Steve-O
Pretty, pretty good.
00:13:40
DeeBo
Two levels in.
00:13:40
Dick VanMeat
You get the super shotgun yet?
00:13:42
DeeBo
No, not yet.
00:13:44
Dick VanMeat
Did you get that gun where it's just like a bunch of human skulls that it shaves a bone off of?
00:13:44
DeeBo
I'm only...
00:13:47
DeeBo
Not yet, no.
00:13:49
Dick VanMeat
I think it's so cool.
00:13:50
werthersoriginal
That is pretty neat.
00:13:50
DeeBo
Yeah, it is pretty...
00:13:51
Dick VanMeat
I don't know if it's spoiler shit, but like i was watching like a weapon showcase of doom.
00:13:53
DeeBo
No, no, that that was like the first... Oh, okay, yeah.
00:13:57
Dick VanMeat
I'm like, this is so sick. I'm like, these weapons are amazing.
00:13:59
DeeBo
Yeah. Dude, the skull thing was like in the first trailer and everybody was like, what is that, dude?
00:14:04
Dick VanMeat
It was, it's so fucking cool, dude.
00:14:06
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:14:06
Dick VanMeat
It's so cool.
00:14:07
DeeBo
Yeah,
00:14:08
Dick VanMeat
No, it just like fucking spreads out bone shards that it shaves off of fucking skulls.
00:14:12
DeeBo
yeah that's awesome, dude.
00:14:12
Dick VanMeat
It's it sick. There's some sick motherfuckers that work at id, I think. Because only a sicko would think of that like conceptually.
00:14:19
DeeBo
Yeah. And then i and then i like an asshole, just watch a 20-minute Digital Foundry. Sometimes Digital Foundry's fun.
00:14:30
Dick VanMeat
Wait, so is it it runs okay on the Pro?
00:14:32
DeeBo
it runs perfect.
00:14:33
Dick VanMeat
I'm hearing, like, I don't want to get into it, because I don't know what Tim's settings and stuff are, because I know he's playing it, but, like, I'm hearing, like, it's, like, it's running, like, dog shit on PC.
00:14:42
DeeBo
really? oh man.
00:14:43
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:14:44
DeeBo
Well, listen, this is what I'll say.
00:14:44
werthersoriginal
Mm-hmm.
00:14:46
Dick VanMeat
So, I don't know.
00:14:46
DeeBo
Like sometimes it's fun to like watch those digital foundry videos, but other times I'm like, what what are we doing here? Because like, they were like, as you could see here, I'm like, obviously they take it seriously. I'm not like knocking them, but just like, they're like, take, they look at the screen and they zoom in like 200 times on like a big skull thing in the background. They're like, as you can see, it's very pixelated here.
00:15:12
Steve-O
Look at the textures on this.
00:15:13
DeeBo
I'm like, who the, what fucking maniac is doing?
00:15:13
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:15:14
Steve-O
Look at the textures.
00:15:14
Dick VanMeat
Nah, love that.
00:15:16
DeeBo
Like, for them, that makes sense.
00:15:18
Dick VanMeat
As you can see, it it runs like dog shit, obviously, because you look how pixelated it is.
00:15:19
DeeBo
But, like, for me, yeah, it's like, doo-doo. Yeah, but I was just like, yeah, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I definitely won't notice a 60 to 56 frame drop during this one level.
00:15:25
werthersoriginal
Zoom in on the Doom guy's crotch. You see no bulge.
00:15:36
DeeBo
Like, I just, I'm not, I'm not going to notice it. I'm okay with that. um But yeah, no, it it looks looks good. However, it does do that thing where it just wildly assumes I know everything about HDR.
00:15:51
DeeBo
ah Because it's like how many nits do you want? And I'm like, what the fuck is a nit? And it's just, there's like seven.
00:15:58
Dick VanMeat
No, it's the brightness, right? It's just brightness.
00:16:00
DeeBo
Well, I guess there's like seven, you know, usually it's just like, oh hit up until you can barely see the symbol.
00:16:07
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:16:07
DeeBo
And then there's like six of these things and they go from 100 to 3000. And I'm just like, what, what am I doing? So
00:16:17
Steve-O
Dude, I'm a bit of a bad boy when it comes to those things.
00:16:17
werthersoriginal
it the I think
00:16:19
Steve-O
I go up a little bit past it with brightness. I make it a little bit brighter now.
00:16:23
DeeBo
you want to know?
00:16:23
Dick VanMeat
Damn. Oh, you're you're a rebel.
00:16:25
Steve-O
ah
00:16:25
werthersoriginal
and think in Doom it means Hell Doom Realm.
00:16:25
Dick VanMeat
Look at this Rogue One over here. We got Rogue One over here, guys.
00:16:27
DeeBo
yeah I end or, yeah, like allegedly and or dude.
00:16:29
Steve-O
I'll me and or.
00:16:31
Dick VanMeat
He's Andor.
00:16:31
werthersoriginal
Go and go.
00:16:31
Dick VanMeat
We got fucking...
00:16:32
werthersoriginal
Go and go on everybody's ass.
00:16:32
Dick VanMeat
We got Jon Andor. Fucking Lieutenant Jon Andor reporting for duty.
00:16:37
werthersoriginal
Gonna blow up some ass right now.
00:16:38
Dick VanMeat
Nah. Steve, does
Game Anticipations and Bungie's History
00:16:40
Dick VanMeat
Claire Obscure... Is that coming out on Switch, too, at all? Do you know?
00:16:44
Steve-O
They did say, I think, that they were looking into Switch 2. ah
00:16:50
Dick VanMeat
So it's not, like, confirmed.
00:16:52
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:16:52
Dick VanMeat
So if anything, it'll probably be too late.
00:16:53
DeeBo
I think it will for sure, but i think you might i don't think it's going to be like day one.
00:16:59
Steve-O
No, not that
00:17:00
Dick VanMeat
what the fuck am I going to be playing on switch two then Mario cart.
00:17:03
DeeBo
Mario Kart, you fool.
00:17:04
werthersoriginal
Word, Kurt.
00:17:05
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:17:05
Steve-O
one. Banana game?
00:17:06
Dick VanMeat
So I want, so I want to buy Claire obscure now, but like night rain comes out next week.
00:17:12
DeeBo
I think it's going on sale.
00:17:13
Dick VanMeat
Night rain. Well, I mean, doesn't have to go.
00:17:14
DeeBo
Oh, yeah.
00:17:15
Dick VanMeat
I'd rather spend the $50. Like I, this is how much I spent on, on Baldur's gate, which I'm like, I've got a table for now because I gotta, I gotta learn. I gotta learn how to get good at role playing games, I guess.
00:17:28
Dick VanMeat
Cause I don't,
00:17:29
Steve-O
I mean, that's the thing.
00:17:30
Dick VanMeat
I'm stuck.
00:17:30
Steve-O
Claire Obscura is a role-playing game, and you know what?
00:17:33
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, do I roll fucking dice in this, though?
00:17:34
DeeBo
but But it's, yeah, it's like a traditional, it's like JRPG style.
00:17:36
Steve-O
It is is very much...
00:17:37
Dick VanMeat
Are there a hotel aren teleporting giant spiders that just fucking electrocute me for no reason? Is that in the game, Steve? Because that's what I'm dealing with right now in Baldur's Gate.
00:17:47
Steve-O
I mean, there's a few wild things that you'll be like, what the fuck?
00:17:51
Dick VanMeat
Okay.
00:17:52
Steve-O
But, like, but is...
00:17:53
Dick VanMeat
Chris, you know what I'm talking about, right? The fucking matriarch spider? That's where I'm stuck right now.
00:17:56
werthersoriginal
He doubled into a really, really tough fight.
00:17:58
Dick VanMeat
yeah chris Yeah, Chris is like...
00:17:58
werthersoriginal
so Yeah, there's a few fights ah in that game.
00:17:59
Steve-O
that game That game puts you down real quick, Baldur's Gate 3.
00:18:03
Dick VanMeat
I'm just like...
00:18:03
Steve-O
I remember playing that early on. I was like, dang, they don't fuck around in this.
00:18:04
Dick VanMeat
I'm just like, Jesus.
00:18:06
Steve-O
My God.
00:18:09
werthersoriginal
One, I refused. I was like, I'm not am i doing this. like there were There's just too many fights.
00:18:14
Dick VanMeat
Well, I'm ego now.
00:18:14
DeeBo
Thank you.
00:18:16
Dick VanMeat
I'm ego now, and I'm salty. So I'm like, I made it here. I might as well try to figure it out. and like I'm looking up different strategies.
00:18:21
Steve-O
And they nerfed the meta where you could put people in your bag and then throw them off cliffs.
00:18:26
werthersoriginal
it Well, they did that, Steve, but they didn't nerf any of the the throwing aspects of the Barbarian, so you could just throw tinier embers at enemies.
00:18:35
Steve-O
Oh.
00:18:37
Dick VanMeat
I kind of regret making a little dude now because I feel like I'm losing out on stuff. Like, jumping.
00:18:44
werthersoriginal
Well, you can get Carlock to throw you everywhere.
00:18:48
Dick VanMeat
See, like I don't know these things. And then like Amir's like, oh you can like hide and sneak around and blah blah blah. And I'm like, what?
00:18:54
werthersoriginal
yeah.
00:18:55
Dick VanMeat
How do I do that?
00:18:56
werthersoriginal
Yeah, you're you're a little sneaky man.
00:18:57
Dick VanMeat
I don't play Dodgers and Dragons, so I don't really know.
00:18:59
werthersoriginal
You're a little sneaky man, right? You
00:19:01
Steve-O
There's a yeah, there's a lot of buttons.
00:19:02
Dick VanMeat
I'm a rogue, yeah. I mean, I just i just have to like put the work in to like learn what to do, I guess.
00:19:08
Steve-O
You know what?
00:19:08
Dick VanMeat
How to be effective in the game. Because I'm trying to just brute force it and like like with no experience at all.
00:19:11
Steve-O
That makes sense.
00:19:14
Dick VanMeat
And it's like...
00:19:16
Steve-O
You didn't make a brute force, sir.
00:19:16
Dick VanMeat
Not experience in the game, but like I just don't know how to play these types of games, you know? So...
00:19:20
Steve-O
You made a sneaky, slow, sneaky guy.
00:19:23
werthersoriginal
may have sneaky slut, sneaky guy.
00:19:23
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:19:24
DeeBo
You made a Frodo.
00:19:24
Steve-O
You should... Yeah.
00:19:25
Dick VanMeat
he's got a little leg He's got little tiny legs, so he can't he can't move that far and he can't jump. So... I mean, we'll see. I mean, Night Rain comes out next week, so it's like everything gets tabled for that.
00:19:35
Steve-O
yeah
00:19:35
werthersoriginal
and
00:19:37
Steve-O
yeah i would I would say if you've got a game coming out next week, don't get a Claire Obscure.
00:19:38
Dick VanMeat
You know?
00:19:43
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:19:44
Steve-O
i would say I would say give that game a runway because it is a...
00:19:44
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:19:46
werthersoriginal
That's the only reason I didn't get it.
00:19:47
Steve-O
it is a it Dude, it is a a feast for this.
00:19:49
Dick VanMeat
Well, they're...
00:19:50
DeeBo
It's a chonky boy, right?
00:19:51
Dick VanMeat
know they're actively working on optimizing it for Steam Deck right now, so maybe when that when that happens...
00:19:51
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:19:51
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:55
werthersoriginal
That's also the other reason. That's the other reason.
00:19:59
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, that like, once that happens, then it's like no-brainer.
00:20:01
werthersoriginal
Yeah, floodgates are open.
00:20:02
Dick VanMeat
cause that's the kind of game that I would like to play not sitting at my desk, you know, or in front of TV.
00:20:07
Steve-O
They nerfed a move in Claire Obscure that a lot of people got up in arms about.
00:20:09
Dick VanMeat
Oh,
00:20:13
Steve-O
But, like, people were, like, just...
00:20:13
DeeBo
Oh, it like broke the game, though, didn't it?
00:20:16
Steve-O
Yeah, they were just, like, running through with it and...
00:20:19
Dick VanMeat
is it like there's fucking thorns Elden Ring's DLC? What was that was that attack called?
00:20:24
werthersoriginal
ah The Briarthorns?
00:20:25
Dick VanMeat
Chris? Yeah, from the DLC where it's like it just fucking inflicts bleed right away.
00:20:28
werthersoriginal
Yes! It was was that incantation you got from me fighting the Erd tree spawn.
00:20:35
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, I didn't even fuck with that.
00:20:37
werthersoriginal
And i I tried that against Radon, and then they nerfed it the next day, and I was going to jump back in.
00:20:43
Dick VanMeat
ah So you had...
00:20:45
werthersoriginal
was like, ah!
00:20:45
Dick VanMeat
You had to be a man about it?
00:20:46
werthersoriginal
Yeah!
00:20:47
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, impenetrable...
00:20:47
werthersoriginal
Yeah!
00:20:48
Steve-O
i feel I feel fucking dumb because a lot of this stuff doesn't click for me until they make the announcement that they're removing it where I'm like, oh, that was broken?
00:20:48
Dick VanMeat
Impenetrable Florence.
00:20:54
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. I mean, I'm...
00:20:56
Steve-O
I had no idea.
00:20:57
Dick VanMeat
I'm almost willing... yeah like... I mean, I feel like there's a lot of people, I'm not like you know condemning this, but like there's a lot of people there there that just like min-max those types of games and like try to find the most broken builds possible.
00:21:09
DeeBo
Yeah, that's Bordeaux, dude.
00:21:09
Steve-O
They go online, they look up the best builds.
00:21:11
DeeBo
That's Bordeaux.
00:21:12
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:21:12
werthersoriginal
Remember Borderlands 3? It was that toilet grenade.
00:21:16
Steve-O
Oh my god.
00:21:16
Dick VanMeat
but yeah
00:21:17
Steve-O
A fucking toilet grenade.
00:21:17
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, dawg.
00:21:17
werthersoriginal
um it was just broke everything in the game. ah It just made everything ah trivial.
00:21:23
Dick VanMeat
Well, here's a question ah for you, Steve. ah Did Claire Obscure steal artwork from anybody for the game?
00:21:29
Steve-O
No. In fact, they...
00:21:30
Dick VanMeat
They didn't? Oh, man. I thought that's what they do now. I thought that's what people do.
00:21:34
werthersoriginal
Everybody does that now.
00:21:35
Steve-O
They eagerly went after people who were like no names and and brought them into...
00:21:35
werthersoriginal
there
00:21:39
Dick VanMeat
And hired them and paid them?
00:21:40
Steve-O
They hired them! Yeah! Yeah!
00:21:42
Dick VanMeat
Oh, wow. That's actually crazy. Wait, they actually hired good artists?
00:21:45
Steve-O
Yeah, they actually they got a music teacher who had a SoundCloud, hired them, brought them on board, and now the Claire Obscura soundtrack, number one on the Billboard chart.
00:21:45
Dick VanMeat
That's insane. No way.
00:21:51
Dick VanMeat
Oh, they didn't... Wait, they didn't just take... They didn't just take the SoundCloud? didn't just take the SoundCloud.
00:21:57
Steve-O
ah top No, no, no, no.
00:21:58
Dick VanMeat
They didn't just download the music and and, and, and pretended they made it.
00:21:59
Steve-O
They didn't just steal steal some artist stuff.
00:22:03
Dick VanMeat
They didn't just pretend that they made it.
00:22:03
werthersoriginal
Well...
00:22:04
Steve-O
Wait, wait. it This sounds like some other company did this. Did some other company do this?
00:22:08
Dick VanMeat
Uh, yeah, pretty big fucking company did it
00:22:10
DeeBo
but did Wait, did some other company do this repeatedly over the years?
00:22:13
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, four times, I think four or five times they've done it.
00:22:14
Steve-O
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. wait wait wait wait yeah You're telling me a big company got away with this four or five times?
00:22:19
Dick VanMeat
This is, this one's, ah this pre, this, uh, like, uh, most recent one is like, is probably the biggest, like, uh, offense that they've done when it comes to stealing. I mean, granted, stealing art in general is pretty bad, but this seems like they stole somebody's...
00:22:36
Dick VanMeat
It seems like they stole somebody's ah entire identity and made it their own.
00:22:40
Steve-O
dates They stole an artist's basically their entire thing to make it their game's entire thing...................
00:22:41
Dick VanMeat
like That's what it feels like.
00:22:45
Dick VanMeat
Their entire... yeah So we're talking about Marathon...
00:22:48
werthersoriginal
Thank you.
00:22:50
Dick VanMeat
The big Bungie game coming up. Dude, Devin, my... Dude, is this like a legendary like generational run I'm having in Fantasy Critic? like This is like so bad for me this year.
00:23:01
DeeBo
um i not oh yeah yeah Honestly, you're doing
00:23:02
Dick VanMeat
Because I got Donkey Kong Counterpick, GTA got delayed, um and Marathon.
00:23:11
DeeBo
you're doing better than me right now. Doing better than Stinn.
00:23:15
Dick VanMeat
Well, Donkey Kong didn't come out yet to give me minus 800.
00:23:18
DeeBo
Yeah, it's true. yeah's true um ye
00:23:20
Dick VanMeat
And GTA 6 isn't coming out.
00:23:20
werthersoriginal
you're saying You're saying you got some bombs in there and they're going to drag you down.
00:23:24
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:23:24
DeeBo
yeah have a You Prime 4 though.
00:23:25
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, this is so bad. Dude, this Bungie... This Bungie shit is so bad, dude.
00:23:30
Steve-O
That's really, it's really bad.
00:23:30
Dick VanMeat
Like, it's... Like, it it feels... Because, like, now, like, the the Destiny content creators that make money off of making YouTube videos about Bungie's games are dragging them about it.
00:23:43
Dick VanMeat
And it feels like not, like... Whatever Bungie decides to do is is bad. And whatever.
00:23:49
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:23:50
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, because it's like... Tim was like, oh, they should hire this artist. But, like... Why would this artist want to work for a company that's that stole everything from them, basically?
00:24:01
Dick VanMeat
Like, their work.
00:24:01
Steve-O
Right. Yeah.
00:24:01
DeeBo
Yeah, especially when they can just do a ah good old-fashioned lawsuit. They just make money.
00:24:06
Dick VanMeat
Exactly. And just shut down the whole game.
00:24:08
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:24:08
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, so it's like... Should Bungie just... Like... And and then this yeah is the other...
00:24:13
DeeBo
Honestly, if I was their lawyer, I'd say do not take your job offer.
00:24:17
Dick VanMeat
This is the other alternative, Devon, is Bungie just reworks everything and then delays the game even more. But like then it turns into Concord 2.0 times 9.11.
00:24:22
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:24:24
Dick VanMeat
That's what it feels like.
00:24:26
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:24:26
Dick VanMeat
like that's what it feels like
00:24:26
DeeBo
And also, it's like, the style's cool.
00:24:26
Steve-O
yeah
00:24:29
DeeBo
Yeah, they're just going to to pay. You just have to settle.
00:24:33
Steve-O
I heard supposedly they have to be in the top four NPD games of the year in order to like ah be even remotely considered a success.
00:24:46
Dick VanMeat
Dude, yeah.
00:24:47
werthersoriginal
um was game yeah How much do you think this game costs?
00:24:48
DeeBo
why ah What? Wait, why is that? Is it because of the budget?
00:24:51
Steve-O
I don't know. That is just a thing I saw.
00:24:53
Dick VanMeat
Not as much as it should have, Chris. Because they stole a bunch of stuff.
00:24:58
werthersoriginal
Well, they're going to have to pay a lot more now.
00:24:58
Dick VanMeat
Well, yeah. Did you guys see it? like that yeah like There was clear one-to-one direct fucking copy-paste of decals that they use and symbols, right?
00:25:10
Dick VanMeat
But it feels like it just goes deeper because like those symbols are very... Like, they're, like, pillar-esque when it comes to, like, the design language of the game. Like, remember when I was gushing about the style and the aesthetic of this game and, like, how how amazing it looks?
00:25:26
Dick VanMeat
Like, that's what those decals end up, like, all of them put together. Like, that's what it ends up being in the game. It becomes the identity of the game.
00:25:34
werthersoriginal
Mm-hmm.
00:25:34
Dick VanMeat
Like, this is what the game looks like.
00:25:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:25:36
Dick VanMeat
This is what the game feels like. Like, it feels like And again, like, it's like... What are they calling They're calling it a brutalist... type neo cyberpunk or whatever like which isn't really like it's not like these ideas have never been done before but like this is like the identity that the game took like and became and made you know its own twist and style style of its own and it just feels like like looking at this artist's art it's like oh man like it's and what sucks is like they realize they've uh they've
00:25:46
Steve-O
yeah
00:26:11
Dick VanMeat
discovered that artists and even the art director of of bungee have been following this artist on twitter for like for years like which is yeah that's like the most damning thing so it's like yeah like you can say like you can say legally like oh yeah we weren't stealing the whole time but like it just like it's all there like it looks it's all on the internet like the fact that you follow this artist
00:26:18
DeeBo
Yeah, that's the rough one, dude.
00:26:18
Steve-O
That's so incriminating.
00:26:19
werthersoriginal
well
00:26:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:26:36
DeeBo
Yeah. I know the artists, the main thing they said, they're like, I can't afford like a lawyer. But like one, yeah.
00:26:42
Dick VanMeat
yeah but its no i think No, I think at this point it's taken it's become so viral that like she she won't have she won't have any problem if she wants to go that route.
00:26:45
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:26:47
DeeBo
Exactly. Yeah, and again, if I'm their lawyer, I'm like, i'm like don't take a can job offer.
00:26:52
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, if i'm if I'm a lawyer, I'm licking my chops at the at the opportunity to fucking take Bungie down.
00:26:56
DeeBo
Yeah, don't take a job offer. Just sue them. You have a pretty good case.
00:27:03
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, it's like, what do you do at this point? like What could they do? like give Give her Give her a...
00:27:08
DeeBo
who give Give her a PS5 Pro and a...
00:27:08
Dick VanMeat
like a ah yeah roll give her like Would she get royalties? and And...
00:27:14
Steve-O
and like at that point that's like art director like it's like the whole style
00:27:15
Dick VanMeat
ah
00:27:17
DeeBo
I mean, that that that's what that's what the lawsuit's for, right?
00:27:21
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. Dude,
00:27:22
DeeBo
they' They're probably going to offer her a lump sum settlement, and then it's up for them.
00:27:25
Dick VanMeat
they did... Bungie did... Bungie did a live stream the other day. And they like kind of addressed it and like talked about it and said they were going to write do or do right by her and stuff.
00:27:35
DeeBo
Oh.
00:27:39
Dick VanMeat
But like the art director looked like he looked like he was like fucking, he looked like he was shitting bricks.
00:27:45
DeeBo
Yeah, because he looks like an asshole.
00:27:47
Dick VanMeat
Basically. Like he was looking, he looked like he was shitting bricks.
00:27:49
DeeBo
Yeah. and again even Let's say like that it's true, right? Let's say it was that ex-employee that also got them in trouble the last time they stole something. And, you know, they just still, like, Buggy didn't do their due diligence and clean out everything else.
00:28:09
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, how do you not check for that after it's ah after you've been caught before multiple times, you know?
00:28:09
DeeBo
But, yeah.
00:28:14
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
00:28:15
Dick VanMeat
It's like somebody has to be held accountable.
00:28:15
DeeBo
Yeah, how is that not something you really nail down?
00:28:17
Dick VanMeat
They gotta...
00:28:19
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:28:19
Dick VanMeat
Like, I think the only way to get out of this, to even have a, have a like a... Like, you know, just a slim chance of of the game surviving, you gotta fire the art team and the art director, and you gotta start from scratch.
00:28:33
Dick VanMeat
if you want If you really want the game to... to succeed if not you just scrap you just scrap the whole thing you just scrap it all
00:28:36
DeeBo
Yeah, but like, it's, But like, frankly, it's the only, it's like the definitive best thing about Marathon right now is the style.
00:28:47
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:28:47
Dick VanMeat
yeah that's what i'm saying you just scrap then you scrap it yeah that's what i that's what everyone's saying and that's what i mean granted that's what i was saying because like that's how everybody feels about the game is like oh if they have anything going for it it's the style it's this this
00:28:47
DeeBo
Yeah, I think you've said like, what's the best thing about the game? Oh, that's rough.
00:29:03
Dick VanMeat
It's this original design language of the game.
00:29:05
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:06
Dick VanMeat
Right? This is what they have going for it. And it's... Oh, man. It fucking sucks, dude.
00:29:13
werthersoriginal
i think I think they're going to pay this lawsuit and release the game.
00:29:14
Dick VanMeat
And, like, and no matter what... Like, no matter what, this is going to be hanging...
00:29:22
werthersoriginal
i don't think they're going to do any of that. That's what I see happening.
00:29:26
Dick VanMeat
They're going to settle.
00:29:28
werthersoriginal
Oh, yeah. They're going settle.
00:29:29
DeeBo
I mean, they're going to settle, but it depends on what she's going to want.
00:29:29
werthersoriginal
They're going pay.
00:29:29
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, that and then what I...
00:29:32
DeeBo
Like, she might want royalties.
00:29:34
werthersoriginal
There probably will be a a you know a ah compromise you know between the parties in some way.
00:29:35
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:29:41
Dick VanMeat
A settlement.
00:29:41
werthersoriginal
That's what the lawyers do. A settlement. but at the end of the day, they'll pay and still release the game. I don't see them scrapping every...
00:29:49
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, so the next question is...
00:29:49
DeeBo
Yeah, and Sony's going to go, what are we paying for again? You piece of shit.
00:29:52
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, yeah, the the next question is, do you think the game can still be profitable with this shroud over it? for
00:30:00
werthersoriginal
o
00:30:01
Dick VanMeat
Because this is like...
00:30:01
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:30:02
Dick VanMeat
this is the You know what I mean?
00:30:03
werthersoriginal
Sadly.
00:30:03
Dick VanMeat
like This is a really big shroud ah carpet to cover the game.
00:30:06
DeeBo
I think, yeah. Yeah, because I think 90% of people have no idea about that.
00:30:12
Dick VanMeat
No, no, no. I don't know about that, dude. Because, like, this is the thing.
00:30:14
DeeBo
don't.
00:30:15
Dick VanMeat
This is the thing. Like, this isn't... Like, yeah, Bungie's a AAA studio. They've produced AAA games, right? But this isn't Call of Duty or FIFA. This isn't a casual gamers, like, company.
00:30:24
Steve-O
yeah
00:30:26
werthersoriginal
That's true.
00:30:26
Dick VanMeat
This is a very... This a very community-focused game company. Where this is...
00:30:30
Steve-O
People who know about it are going to know about this controversy.
00:30:32
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:30:35
Dick VanMeat
The only The only way they the only reason the game like destiny to survived all of its fucking mishaps, which there were plenty of them is because they were transparent with the community and they were, they went, they turned it around and made everything community based.
00:30:52
Dick VanMeat
And they realized like, this is, you know, this is what we have to use as, as ah we have to backpack off the community and the, and the, and the content creators to to make sure this game successful.
00:31:04
Dick VanMeat
And the community is turning its back on them before this new IP even comes out. And that's another thing. This is a new IP. Like, it's not like this is Halo Infinite 2 or Destiny 3, you know?
00:31:17
Dick VanMeat
Like, if it was Destiny 3, yeah, it's probably it'll probably be fine, right?
00:31:17
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:31:21
Dick VanMeat
But this is a brand new game, and it's a niche, like, it's a niche game, game type genre.
00:31:26
werthersoriginal
I mean, i think if it's great, like, it doesn't matter.
00:31:30
Dick VanMeat
It's fucking extraction shooter. Like, they need they need all they need all the good press that they can get for the game to survive the beginning parts of of a game as a service where they they there clearly are serious issues making a game sustainable, like, financially with this type of game, you know?
00:31:33
Steve-O
think just...
00:31:33
werthersoriginal
It has to be great.
00:31:50
Steve-O
yeah i think just
00:31:50
Dick VanMeat
And that's the thing. It's like, this is basically just PvP, right? Like, that's the whole that's the whole game. So it's like, dude, I don't know, man. don't...
00:31:59
Steve-O
Destiny was sold as like the biggest thing in the world. Like they were like, this is a game. We have a 10 year plan for it. It's the, we've spent the most money on it. It was, it was sold to us. You know, it was the game following Halo.
00:32:07
Dick VanMeat
um we We got Paul McCartney. We got Paul McCartney to make a song for it.
00:32:12
werthersoriginal
Thank you.
00:32:12
Steve-O
Right. Exactly. And I think like going from destiny to the later years to, um, marathon was like a huge drop off.
00:32:19
DeeBo
Thanks.
00:32:21
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, so yeah. but Yeah, let's go through it, Steve.
00:32:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:32:24
Dick VanMeat
and Let's go through it. so So yeah, so biggest biggest games ever, Halo. They've made those games.
00:32:29
Steve-O
Right. What was the last Halo game they made?
00:32:30
Dick VanMeat
Went into...
00:32:32
Steve-O
What was it, Reach?
00:32:33
Dick VanMeat
Halo Reach, which was an amazing game.
00:32:35
Steve-O
That was a masterpiece, right?
00:32:35
Dick VanMeat
Ended on a great, great note. Yeah. So they went from Halo Reach to an MMO first-person shooter, like, instance-based. Brand new type of game.
00:32:48
Dick VanMeat
It almost fucking died within the first year. came They came back. They bounced back, right? Incredible. The Taken King comes out, saves the game. And then they have this...
00:33:00
Dick VanMeat
this generational run up until like i guess a year two of destiny 2 where they got caught uh fucking throttling xp and slowing people down that were grinding the game because they were slow feeding content to make it seem like there's more content there was big big fucking issue turned it around again came out with a new fucking game type gambit or whatever got caught stealing art for some assets along the way
00:33:16
DeeBo
All right.
00:33:28
Dick VanMeat
And then like the last big Destiny news, I would say, was the massive fucking layoffs. Like that was the biggest news of, one of the biggest news reels of last year was when they fucking axed like half of the company for greed for greedy reasons, right?
00:33:41
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:33:45
Dick VanMeat
And then they come up with this new IP, which everybody's starting to get excited about. And then this happens. Like that's, this is the fucking life cycle of Bungie. Like it really, it's almost like,
00:33:57
Dick VanMeat
Man, like, we thought these guys were going to... Oh, no, and and I forgot. they they they free They freed themselves of the Activision clutches and then went to Sony. Got bought by Sony.
00:34:09
Dick VanMeat
Fucking shut down Last of Us 2 online.
00:34:11
DeeBo
you
00:34:12
Dick VanMeat
Right? like Like, that's what happened. And then they had all the layoffs after all that.
00:34:17
Steve-O
didn't they also make a deal with Tencent at one point
00:34:20
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, they were supposed to make ah some type of game. i don't know I don't even know what that is. I don't know what's going on with them on that side. um But, like, it's just been, like, a tumultuous, like, rollercoaster ride of, like, is this a good company still? Like, it's definitely not the same company that made Halo and made Destiny.
00:34:38
Steve-O
I think it's the people like once a ton of the people leave a company, which i you you have to realize game companies do that.
00:34:38
Dick VanMeat
You know, made the first Destiny.
00:34:45
Steve-O
Like, you know, not everybody's going to like work at the same company for years. And once enough of a a team leaves, it is very much in different hands. It has a ah different, you know, gaming like.
00:34:56
DeeBo
It took a really long time for people to just accept that when it came to like rare. He's like, yeah, dude.
00:35:01
Steve-O
Yeah, like rare Bioware, lot of them.
00:35:02
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, and and I want to say...
00:35:02
werthersoriginal
right?
00:35:02
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:35:04
werthersoriginal
a The name doesn't mean so let's say, real talk, what did they did they ever say how much this game costs?
00:35:06
Steve-O
hmm.
00:35:06
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:35:07
Dick VanMeat
yeah like, i want I want to say, too, like, I want to say, like, maybe this is just part of the... This is just part of the the um the de-evolution of the AAA studio, right?
00:35:20
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:35:20
Dick VanMeat
But then we get the GTA 6 trailer, and we're just like, oh, okay. I'm back in, baby. I'm back in.
00:35:30
werthersoriginal
I know the name was being developed.
00:35:30
DeeBo
No, they never do, dude.
00:35:32
Dick VanMeat
No, they're not going to say it either.
00:35:32
werthersoriginal
They're never going to say it, right?
00:35:33
DeeBo
like
00:35:34
Dick VanMeat
No, I'm going to say I'm going to say billion.
00:35:34
DeeBo
The game industry is all...
00:35:36
Dick VanMeat
I'm going to say billion dollars, though.
00:35:36
DeeBo
of
00:35:37
Dick VanMeat
This is it probably is probably the ah line on terms of marketing.
00:35:37
werthersoriginal
A billion. Whoa.
00:35:40
DeeBo
Wait, for GTA? Yeah.
00:35:43
Dick VanMeat
terms of marketing and like, you know, just dude, they got that fucking that legendary fucking director to make that short.
00:35:45
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:35:51
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:35:51
Dick VanMeat
What's that guy's name? Like how much you think that guy got paid to make a fucking 10 minute video on YouTube?
00:35:56
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:35:57
Dick VanMeat
Like probably a lot of money, right?
00:35:59
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:35:59
Steve-O
Last time I remember something like that was when they did it for Red Dead.
00:36:05
werthersoriginal
ah do you think How much do you think Red Dead cost at the time?
00:36:07
DeeBo
i
00:36:07
Steve-O
I mean...
00:36:08
Dick VanMeat
Red Dead 2 probably cost like at least 600, 700 million.
00:36:09
werthersoriginal
Two, three, 300, 600, 700. Right.
00:36:11
Dick VanMeat
No, like 600 million.
00:36:12
werthersoriginal
six hundred seven
00:36:14
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, I would assume. But the thing is, like, the the difference is Rockstar has an infinite money, had an infinite money well for 15 years, which was GTA Online.
00:36:23
werthersoriginal
right
00:36:24
Dick VanMeat
Like, that's the difference. Bungie is like the world's biggest independent game developer, basically, that got bought by Sony for 3 billion.
00:36:34
DeeBo
So the estimated budget for development marketing for Red Dead 2 is between $370 to $540 million.
00:36:39
Dick VanMeat
For Red Dead?
00:36:46
DeeBo
That's a huge gap though.
00:36:48
werthersoriginal
Yeah, it is.
00:36:49
DeeBo
So yeah, that's including market.
00:36:49
werthersoriginal
Is that marketing? i assume that's marketing.
00:36:52
DeeBo
But they're just like and there was still and they're still willing to be off they're still willing to be off by like
00:36:53
Dick VanMeat
And Roger Clark only got him got a million of that.
00:36:53
werthersoriginal
Well, I'm saying that gap, that gap might be marketing.
00:36:56
Dick VanMeat
That's it.
00:37:00
DeeBo
two hundred million dollars you know or a hundred and seventy million
00:37:03
werthersoriginal
I think that that might be marketing, that that got that gap.
00:37:06
DeeBo
No, I mean, it says included in that is 370 or 450, 540.
00:37:08
werthersoriginal
No, I know, but like that variance there, that might be because of the marketing budget.
00:37:12
DeeBo
Yeah. GTA is...
00:37:13
werthersoriginal
It may have went over their expectations because they did market it a good deal.
00:37:19
DeeBo
so yeah
00:37:19
Dick VanMeat
What, Red Dead? Yeah.
00:37:20
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:37:20
Steve-O
Oh, yeah.
00:37:21
Dick VanMeat
Well, I mean, it's a Rockstar game, right? And it's like...
00:37:23
DeeBo
funny enough i feel like
00:37:24
Dick VanMeat
And wouldn't you say Red Dead 2 is probably one of the most...
00:37:25
DeeBo
ya
00:37:26
werthersoriginal
To be honest, I kind of think, to me, Rockstar, like, and I wouldn't say it's Hershey, but it's close to a company where I don't even think they would have to advertise for me to buy it.
00:37:27
Dick VanMeat
Probably... probably
00:37:37
DeeBo
Yeah, it's like they show two trailers. it breaks every record.
00:37:42
Dick VanMeat
No, and that's what I'm saying. It's like, what the difference between ah like a company like Rockstar and a company like Bungie is Rockstar isn't really community based. It's, it's literally they make games for casual gamers to enjoy.
00:37:55
werthersoriginal
Yeah, definitely.
00:37:55
Dick VanMeat
Like, like Tim's dad play, he fishes in, in Red Dead too. Like, that's his thing.
00:38:01
werthersoriginal
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:38:01
Dick VanMeat
Like, you know what i mean?
00:38:03
werthersoriginal
It is...
00:38:03
Dick VanMeat
That dude's not, that guy, like that guy's not playing, you know, he's not going to be playing extraction shooters, you know?
00:38:06
werthersoriginal
they're They're designed for... They're kind of designed for everybody. They have that.
00:38:09
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:38:10
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, exactly. Which is like, you know, Yeah, that you know like that like that's that's how you make that's how you make the most money, right? like So you know that's that's the difference.
00:38:17
werthersoriginal
Definitely.
00:38:21
Dick VanMeat
Rockstar has... like Red Dead and and GTA are like staple IPs that will...
00:38:32
Dick VanMeat
like The games could be bad, but they'll still it'll still it'll still turn a profit if it's bad, right?
00:38:38
Steve-O
yeah
00:38:38
werthersoriginal
yeah Definitely.
00:38:39
Dick VanMeat
If Bungie puts out a shit product where they fucking stole assets... art assets from from independent artists that didn't that didn't make money off of them for 10 years.
00:38:43
DeeBo
Thank you.
00:38:48
Dick VanMeat
like that could that could ruin the That could ruin the launch of the game. you know This isn't Call of Duty. If this was Activision, I'd be like, yeah, they'll pay $500 million in a settlement, Activision will, and then they'll release Call Duty, and it'll make as much money as it as it was projected to make, regardless.
00:39:10
Dick VanMeat
But this is Bungie, who's like on the hot seat right now anyway because of the bad press from the end of of destiny 2 and you know and they're an investment that sony made by buying them they bought bungee sony bought bungee for what rockstar makes in like a month off of gta online basically so it's like so that like that's the difference you know like if this game failed like if this is concord 2.0
00:39:35
werthersoriginal
Mm-hmm.
00:39:35
DeeBo
Ha, ha, ha.
00:39:41
Dick VanMeat
point zero Bungie is dead. They're dead.
00:39:48
Steve-O
It's rumored to be 40 too, isn't it?
00:39:49
Dick VanMeat
And and they'll just go they'll just go into the Sony graveyard and it won't matter in the long run. for so like I don't think it matter matters for Sony much just because Sony has you know other...
00:39:59
Dick VanMeat
It's not like they're... I wouldn't say that the future of Sony depends on if Bungie is alive or not.
00:40:06
werthersoriginal
Yeah, definitely.
00:40:07
Dick VanMeat
you know I would put that...
00:40:07
Steve-O
They want a live action or a live service game, but I don't think that's going to carry them.
00:40:08
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, i yeah, but like I would put, yeah, like what's going to carry them is not like Naughty Dog and Santa Monica Studios. Like those guys, right?
00:40:20
Dick VanMeat
Sucker Punch too, probably. don't know. What else they got, Devin?
00:40:25
DeeBo
Who's Sony? ah
00:40:26
Dick VanMeat
Astro Bot.
00:40:28
werthersoriginal
going to get
00:40:28
Dick VanMeat
Astro Bot Incorporated.
00:40:28
DeeBo
Insomniac. Insomniac. Yeah. The Astro Bot guys.
00:40:32
Dick VanMeat
Oh yeah, they got fuck it they got Wolverine, the leaked game.
00:40:34
DeeBo
Yeah, they got Spider-Man, which apparently just cost them money, apparently.
00:40:36
werthersoriginal
GTA 6 dropped for like a whole year on PC or something?
00:40:39
Dick VanMeat
Hmm.
00:40:40
werthersoriginal
Like they're gonna they're gonna keep that from coming out for a while on PC?
00:40:46
Steve-O
Yeah, it seems to be their m MO.
00:40:46
DeeBo
What?
00:40:47
Steve-O
They like wait like a year change for their new games and then they put it on PC, which is crazy to me that they're even putting these things on PC.
00:40:56
werthersoriginal
know, right? Eh, more money.
00:40:59
Steve-O
Yeah, more I think that's it at the end of the day. It's just like people are like scrounging to find any revenue in the things they're making because like they're like, all right, well, you know, we make a game for one system. You know, we're making whatever we have for like, you know, we're making up a portion of what our consoles are out there. But if we put it on everything, you know, we could just make the most money. So fuck it.
00:41:23
werthersoriginal
Yeah, especially with a possible recession, you know, like that's probably on their their forefront of mind.
00:41:23
Steve-O
So.
00:41:27
Steve-O
Hmm.
00:41:30
werthersoriginal
Might come out even sooner on PC.
00:41:32
Dick VanMeat
Dude, GTA 6 is gonna like fucking save the economy when that game comes out. Especially if they if they if they decide to say fuck you.
00:41:40
werthersoriginal
It was made in America.
00:41:42
Dick VanMeat
if they If they decide to say fuck you to Nintendo and release the game for like 60 bucks, which they definitely could. The economy's, you know, trump Trump will win a third term, baby. After that, they're gonna save Trump.
00:41:56
DeeBo
Oh, don't say that to me. When we all buy, I don't know, dude.
00:42:01
werthersoriginal
Isn't that the whole goal of all of this?
00:42:01
DeeBo
I think they're going to go other direction. think GTA going to be like $120. $119.99. well, thanks, Nintendo. I'll blame it They'll that out. hundred and nineteen ninety nine
00:42:08
Dick VanMeat
Dude, that would be insane.
00:42:10
werthersoriginal
Wow, Devin.
00:42:10
Dick VanMeat
Alright, place your bets now, guys.
00:42:12
werthersoriginal
That's terrible.
00:42:13
Dick VanMeat
Place your bets now.
00:42:13
DeeBo
yeah well thanks nintendo ah blame it on them <unk>ll take that out
00:42:19
Dick VanMeat
Oh, man. So, Marathon might be might be a dead dead game now, which sucks.
00:42:23
Steve-O
Might be dead in the water.
00:42:23
DeeBo
Yeah, man, that's rough. Yeah, I heard something where there are like more owls like in the toilet over at death, the bungie.
00:42:29
werthersoriginal
Yikes.
00:42:30
DeeBo
Like it's never been worse there. Yeah, and like how could you how could you feel good about that where this thing keeps happening? There doesn't seem to be any serious attempt at stopping it.
00:42:43
DeeBo
And people are already kind of on the line about it. And it's like, don't know.
00:42:48
Dick VanMeat
And to be honest, this was probably the last straw for Sony, too. Like, those guys already put their... putting their hands in the mix.
00:42:55
DeeBo
Yeah, they already overpaid but a lot.
00:42:57
Dick VanMeat
they They're gonna... Yeah, they're gonna... they' They'll just axe... They'll just axe everybody in there just, you know...
00:43:02
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:43:03
Dick VanMeat
They'll axe everyone that's working on Marathon and then, like... They'll be like, okay, keep... Make Destiny 3.
00:43:11
werthersoriginal
All right, here we go.
00:43:11
Dick VanMeat
And then, like, that's it.
00:43:13
werthersoriginal
We're doing a God of War MMO.
00:43:14
DeeBo
Yeah. God damn it.
00:43:18
DeeBo
Well, ah you know, Sony's other that fair fair games, ah that game got
00:43:22
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:43:25
DeeBo
Well, it lost its creative producer or director, Jade Raymond, who I don't think has ever...
00:43:28
Steve-O
Jade Raymond.
00:43:31
DeeBo
She hasn't put out a game in like 10, 12 years. um I don't know. She just seems like she's the fucking touch of death.
00:43:40
Steve-O
She attaches her name to like a game and then like leaves midway through.
00:43:41
DeeBo
don't know.
00:43:47
DeeBo
Yeah. But like as a result, it was delayed, i think. And... The story is is that they have like an internal ah like showcase, and they were like, oh no. It did not go over well.
00:44:05
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:44:05
DeeBo
All of a sudden, she leaves the company, and this game... while I don't think it's officially delayed, because I don't think it ever had like a release date, ah there there's rumors swirling that they're just going to fucking pull it before it even...
00:44:22
Steve-O
It was something like 80% of the fair games staff was redirected to work on like AI stuff for, for Sony.
00:44:33
werthersoriginal
yeah
00:44:34
DeeBo
oh Oh, well, hey, you know what?
00:44:36
Steve-O
I know ah Kyle bossman made a video about it this week.
00:44:38
DeeBo
Keep your job, I guess, but damn.
00:44:42
werthersoriginal
That's rough to hear.
00:44:42
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:44:42
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:44:43
Steve-O
Work, work on the thing. That's just going to destroy you.
00:44:45
DeeBo
Dude, that guy, who was it? Was that Jim Ryan? No. Who was the last Sony guy?
00:44:52
werthersoriginal
think it was Jim Ross.
00:44:53
Steve-O
Yeah, I think you're talking about good old JR.
00:44:54
Dick VanMeat
ah Sean Layden. Sean Layden.
00:44:56
DeeBo
Yeah. No, no. Fuck, PlayStation, wasn't it?
00:45:00
werthersoriginal
Oh my god!
00:45:02
Steve-O
can Can you believe this?
00:45:05
DeeBo
Maybe it was Jim Ryan.
00:45:05
Steve-O
Stop that damn match.
00:45:06
DeeBo
It was the guy before the the current one who just...
00:45:10
Steve-O
Can I talk about Kevin Butler?
00:45:12
DeeBo
No... God damn it.
00:45:13
Steve-O
Love that guy.
00:45:14
werthersoriginal
Hmm.
00:45:15
DeeBo
No, no, I'm sorry. It was Jim Ryan. Jim Ryan was the guy who who he had the really strong push for all the live service games and then quit, left, retired, did whatever.
00:45:23
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:45:24
Dick VanMeat
And then peaced.
00:45:27
DeeBo
ah And then just... I don't... every Like all of these games are just failing miserably. Like everybody, you know, you somebody obviously probably told him that and he was fired immediately.
00:45:42
DeeBo
But, you know, it's like, yeah, this doesn't seem like a good idea. Because so I remember there was some press release. Somebody was bragging about it. They're we're going to release six games in three years. They're all going to be live service. And like two of them came out and one of them was Concord.
00:46:00
DeeBo
And everything else has kind of been pulled, canceled, delayed, whatever.
00:46:03
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:46:04
DeeBo
ah Yeah, dude, that guy was not not good.
00:46:09
Steve-O
He was poison for Sony.
00:46:10
DeeBo
He was, yeah, at some point, like, whatever, because he worked there for, like, 30 years or something, so it's, like, clearly it wasn't all bad, but whatever he was doing those last few years, man, it's bad news.
00:46:11
Steve-O
Let's face it.
00:46:25
DeeBo
It's real bad.
00:46:27
Steve-O
I think there's just some people who just... Their greed takes over their sense. And, you know, they're like, oh I'm going to force it to be this way.
00:46:37
Steve-O
And it's like, that's just not the way it is. Like Sony brought itself back from being third place.
00:46:41
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:46:47
Steve-O
where it was against the Xbox 360 and the Wii because it had games like Uncharted.
00:46:48
DeeBo
yeah
00:46:53
Steve-O
It had games like The Last of Us. like That single-player epic adventure storytelling experience was what put them back into the forefront.
00:47:06
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't a game as a service.
00:47:09
Steve-O
Right. No, it wasn't.
00:47:09
DeeBo
Yeah, it wasn't yeah it wasn't like just like this.
00:47:10
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:47:11
werthersoriginal
I think what the issue is, is Jim Ryan just ended like a mouthpiece for investors.
00:47:13
Dick VanMeat
It was Uncharted 2, that game alone. Put them back on the map.
00:47:19
Steve-O
He
00:47:19
werthersoriginal
That's never do anything.
00:47:20
DeeBo
and Well, he's also he's also the guy who was like, he had the that rough quote about backwards compatibility.
00:47:21
werthersoriginal
I
00:47:27
DeeBo
He's like, who would ever want to play this? And it was like, oh, okay.
00:47:29
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:47:32
DeeBo
I guess that's a pretty shitty take to hear, considering.
00:47:35
werthersoriginal
think I was kind of a suit and I think he only really cared about what the investors told him to do.
00:47:40
Steve-O
was worse than a suit. He was stooge.
00:47:43
werthersoriginal
He was a stooge.
00:47:43
DeeBo
Yeah, he was ah he was a Vince McMahon stooge, allegedly.
00:47:48
Steve-O
Guy got a skid mark in his underwear.
00:47:48
werthersoriginal
Allegedly.
00:47:55
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, he was... ah Yeah, he...
00:47:59
werthersoriginal
Sometimes you gotta tell those old bastards to go fuck themselves.
00:48:02
Dick VanMeat
Mm-hmm.
00:48:02
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:48:03
DeeBo
In 2019, he took the role over. And I think you could probably point to a timeline... You know, and obviously COVID happened.
00:48:14
DeeBo
ah But like,
00:48:19
DeeBo
yeah, don't know. 2019 probably where you point to it. The the the start first cracks in that foundation.
00:48:25
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:48:27
DeeBo
You guys suck, dude. Boo.
00:48:29
Steve-O
Dude, that's the thing.
00:48:29
DeeBo
Boo Jim Ryan.
00:48:30
Steve-O
Like, I think if you handed what Sony was in 2020 to anybody else, you could hand it to one of us. Like, we would have absolutely ran with that ball and fucking we'd be we'd be sitting on a fucking ah like a like a fucking tower of fucking gold bricks.
00:48:51
DeeBo
Yeah, Jim Ryan, I could have did your job better than you ever could have.
00:48:52
werthersoriginal
like
00:48:54
Steve-O
so so if Phil Spencer wouldn't be crying on podcasts every week.
00:48:57
DeeBo
Dude. I think, I'll be honest, I think Phil Spencer is what would have happened if you or I or any of us became a CEO of a game club.
00:49:04
Steve-O
Yeah, he figured me like, i I don't know what did.
00:49:05
werthersoriginal
yeah a
00:49:06
DeeBo
I'm just trying to make everybody happy and I'm just fucking up all the fucking time.
00:49:10
Dick VanMeat
and just I just try to buy every every studio I can get exclusivity.
00:49:13
DeeBo
What if I just bought Sony?
00:49:15
Steve-O
Oh my God.
00:49:15
DeeBo
Why can't buy Sony? Oh, shit. That was my only plan. yeah
00:49:19
Steve-O
I really screwed it up, guys.
00:49:21
werthersoriginal
Now, as as Microsoft and Xbox, the shit can that guy or just let him ride.
00:49:27
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, i just let him ride.
00:49:28
DeeBo
I mean...
00:49:28
Dick VanMeat
He's
00:49:29
werthersoriginal
That's kind of why I feel.
00:49:29
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:49:30
DeeBo
again ah like Again, he seems like a genuinely nice guy but I think he's just...
00:49:32
Dick VanMeat
harmless. He's harmless, guys.
00:49:33
werthersoriginal
He is, right?
00:49:34
Steve-O
ah
00:49:37
DeeBo
He's been costing them money for no reason. like Not for no reason, but like his greatest claim to fame is Game Pass, and that's something where Microsoft's continuously just...
00:49:49
DeeBo
You know, it's a loss leader, right? They're just spending money to just say they have it. But I don't think Game Pass has ever made them money yet. So it's just like,
Final Destination Movie Discussion
00:50:00
DeeBo
okay.
00:50:01
DeeBo
But they're Microsoft, so they can they can eat it, you know?
00:50:03
werthersoriginal
They can eat it. They can eat it.
00:50:07
Steve-O
Their most exciting game in the past three years was an Oblivion remake.
00:50:12
werthersoriginal
That doesn't run well. What the hell that about?
00:50:15
Steve-O
Yeah. this
00:50:18
DeeBo
Yeah, that's what I heard. That is what I heard.
00:50:22
werthersoriginal
and but i got excited too and I started playing and I'm like, this game actively doesn't want me to play it anymore.
00:50:24
DeeBo
man.
00:50:30
werthersoriginal
It's fight me.
00:50:30
DeeBo
Hey, can I talk about something fun, though?
00:50:31
werthersoriginal
It's fight me like a fishing rod.
00:50:33
Steve-O
You got something fun?
00:50:34
DeeBo
Yeah, I want to talk about something fun. ah Chris and i watched the new Final Destination movie.
00:50:37
werthersoriginal
Oh boy.
00:50:41
werthersoriginal
Bloodlines.
00:50:43
DeeBo
That movie is the hell of a time, dude.
00:50:46
werthersoriginal
It was a lot of fun.
00:50:48
DeeBo
That movie ruled.
00:50:48
werthersoriginal
It was super gory. It had some violent kills. It made me laugh. It was funny.
00:50:56
DeeBo
Fun characters. Great kills.
00:51:01
werthersoriginal
i think it
00:51:01
DeeBo
Good time, dude.
00:51:02
werthersoriginal
it leaned into the humor aspect more than any other final destination thus far.
00:51:07
DeeBo
I agree. Well, because you know what? I feel like the other Final out Destination movies was they were really stereotypical in the sense of like they were all like shitty teens.
00:51:16
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:51:17
DeeBo
Which is like, okay, that's fine.
00:51:19
werthersoriginal
Easy to watch die.
00:51:19
DeeBo
But this was like, oh, what if you made the the people just slightly more interesting and like maybe not super shitty?
00:51:29
Steve-O
um
00:51:30
DeeBo
Some are shitty, but in like a fun way.
00:51:33
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:51:34
DeeBo
And i you know it's just you kind of find yourself...
00:51:35
werthersoriginal
But it felt like a family. It felt like a...
00:51:37
DeeBo
Yeah, you find yourself rooting for these characters. and but like the But they're just kind of goofy enough... That you don't feel like overly sad when they do die.
00:51:49
werthersoriginal
Yeah, they're not serious people in any regard, but they care about one another, and I think that kind of transcends...
00:51:54
DeeBo
Yeah. And that makes you attached to the character. And then they die. But it's not like they don't just die. it's like the... You know, it's the Final Destination most insane contraption of events that causes them to die. And it's really hard to be like...
00:52:11
DeeBo
oh, my heart's broken. It's like, no, it's just the those ridiculous things just happened.
00:52:16
werthersoriginal
I think it adds, it's very meta, meta comedy, meta, meta narrative to it where a character can see some things, can see the pattern, which is not like, it's not completely unheard of in final destination, but it's like to her ability is beyond that, you know, like, so that adds more of like a satirical element to it sometimes, which is kind of fun, you know, like, um,
00:52:17
DeeBo
And it was very funny.
00:52:38
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:52:38
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:52:47
werthersoriginal
The one scene in particular with a leaf blower and a soccer ball yeah and just the laissez-faire kind of casual way that that happens is pretty funny.
00:52:52
DeeBo
yeah
00:53:00
DeeBo
Yeah. Oh, John Watts of Spider-Man, Marvel Spider-Man fame wrote this movie.
00:53:01
werthersoriginal
I really
00:53:07
DeeBo
One of the writers on the movie.
00:53:08
werthersoriginal
Marvel Spider-Man, as in the guy who made the game?
00:53:11
DeeBo
No, no, like the, sorry, the Spider-Man movies, No Way Home, Far From Home, It's Time to Go Home.
00:53:15
werthersoriginal
out oh okay.
00:53:17
Steve-O
oh
00:53:19
werthersoriginal
He directed all those, really?
00:53:20
DeeBo
Yeah. No, no, he is a, hold on. Let's see if I can get the direct. So he did Spider-Man No Way Home, Far From Yeah, he did all three.
00:53:33
DeeBo
All three Tom Holland, Spider-Man.
00:53:33
werthersoriginal
Oh, wow.
00:53:35
DeeBo
He was one of the writers on this.
00:53:35
werthersoriginal
that That checks out. I feel like um it does have like a heartfeltness to it that i that he carried over from like the Spider-Man movies a bit.
00:53:46
werthersoriginal
And they're young characters, too.
00:53:46
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:49
werthersoriginal
I think, though, it's far obviously far more brutal.
00:53:49
Dick VanMeat
Thank
00:53:54
werthersoriginal
And um it plays into the formula in a very fun way. It's fun seeing death have so many victims to take down, too.
00:54:08
DeeBo
yeah
00:54:09
werthersoriginal
That's, I think, some of the Final Destination movies. I feel like the victim list either gets chopped down too fast or is not long enough to begin with. This is perfect.
00:54:20
DeeBo
Yeah, this was ah this is like two hours, right? I think it was like...
00:54:23
werthersoriginal
Yeah, about two hours, I would say. um Great opener. Great opening scene, which every Final Destination has to have. Just a fucking crazy, violent, brutal, gory opening with all of the Rube Goldberg-like cause and effect shit that that happens and you see before anybody else.
00:54:47
werthersoriginal
It's it's all tension, you know?
00:54:48
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:54:48
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:54:49
DeeBo
And it did super well at the box office.
00:54:53
werthersoriginal
It did.
00:54:54
DeeBo
It's a yeah yeah certified hit, dude.
00:54:54
werthersoriginal
It surprised people, too. It's not like heavy in any way, and it doesn't take itself serious in any way, and that only helps when you make the fifth movie of something.
00:55:10
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:55:12
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. Dude, I'm trying to find... Now, this this means...
00:55:20
DeeBo
i was thinking about that fucking Doctor Chris at the end of the movie.
00:55:24
werthersoriginal
Oh my god, yes.
00:55:25
DeeBo
Yeah, did ya?
00:55:26
werthersoriginal
That scene is amazing!
00:55:26
DeeBo
yeah
00:55:29
DeeBo
Dude.
00:55:29
werthersoriginal
Let's see, I think about that a lot, quite a bit. um
00:55:33
DeeBo
Oh, my God.
00:55:34
werthersoriginal
There's a scene in the movie, guys, it's not so much a spoiler, but they're at a party, and they're like, yeah, she she died, you know, she stopped breathing underwater.
00:55:42
Dick VanMeat
Thank you.
00:55:45
werthersoriginal
There's a guy that comes up at the party, and he's like, eh, nah, she didn't die. Oh my god!
00:55:51
Steve-O
Wait, what?
00:55:52
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. like like They're talking about this heroic thing. Oh, my brother saved my life. you know brought I died. And he goes, eh, did he though?
00:56:00
werthersoriginal
I'm breaking the air. Did he
00:56:02
DeeBo
They're like, what do you mean?
00:56:02
Steve-O
house
00:56:02
DeeBo
He's like, well, you know, she wasn't dead. She was just like unconscious. But it's like, I don't know.
00:56:07
Steve-O
so oh my god.
00:56:08
DeeBo
It's the way that he goes, eh.
00:56:11
Steve-O
It's very... yeah What's his name? David.
00:56:15
werthersoriginal
Your Enthusiasm, Larry Davis.
00:56:16
Steve-O
Yeah. Larry David.
00:56:16
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:56:17
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:56:17
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:56:18
werthersoriginal
Yes, very much Larry Davis.
00:56:18
DeeBo
It really felt like that, yeah.
00:56:21
werthersoriginal
Kind of flippantly being like, no, you're dumb.
00:56:21
DeeBo
It's just
00:56:23
werthersoriginal
That's
00:56:23
DeeBo
No, you're not. Let's not give yourself too much credit here.
00:56:27
werthersoriginal
And it obviously is the cherry on top for what happens. And, you know, it's a Final Destination movie, folks. So you you figure that out. um Hell of a movie.
00:56:40
werthersoriginal
Really fun.
00:56:40
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:56:41
werthersoriginal
I'm at the theater. That was a good sit, man.
00:56:45
DeeBo
I agree very much so
00:56:47
werthersoriginal
Solid, good sit.
00:56:47
Steve-O
Hell yeah.
00:56:49
werthersoriginal
Enjoy it when it comes out and on HBO Max.
00:56:51
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:56:55
Steve-O
Humberbox.
00:56:56
werthersoriginal
Which is what we call it now.
00:56:57
DeeBo
So confident. Well, I guess, wait, it's a new line, right?
00:56:58
Dick VanMeat
MOCs.
00:57:01
werthersoriginal
Yeah, new line.
00:57:01
DeeBo
Okay, yeah. All right, all right. My bad.
00:57:03
werthersoriginal
I'm pretty sure it's HBO Max.
00:57:04
DeeBo
Yeah. God, so confident. But, yeah. ah Yeah, hour 50 minutes made 105 million already.
00:57:14
werthersoriginal
100, Jesus.
00:57:14
Steve-O
God dang.
00:57:15
DeeBo
Yeah, worldwide. It did, yeah, it's about 50-50 worldwide and domestic.
00:57:17
werthersoriginal
Is there
00:57:21
werthersoriginal
a budget?
00:57:24
DeeBo
Uh... All I know is the budget is very high. Like, I think I read somewhere it's bigger than all of the other Final Destination movies put together.
00:57:33
werthersoriginal
Oh, oh my, okay.
00:57:37
DeeBo
Granted, I don't know how much those cost, but... No, this one...
00:57:42
werthersoriginal
To get those recycling trucks.
00:57:45
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:57:45
werthersoriginal
That's why it's so expensive.
00:57:47
DeeBo
But, ah yeah, and like...
00:57:48
werthersoriginal
It costs lot to rent.
00:57:50
DeeBo
Standout,
The Last of Us: Game vs. TV Show
00:57:52
DeeBo
I think the guy who plays the the tattoo artist brother is standout, dude.
00:57:56
werthersoriginal
Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:58:00
werthersoriginal
Definitely the funnest character, the most fun character in the film.
00:58:05
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:58:05
werthersoriginal
Also, his his sequence is pretty fucking funny.
00:58:10
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:58:11
werthersoriginal
And I laughed quite a bit and was guffawling like a big dummy.
00:58:14
DeeBo
Yeah. Richard Harmon, shout out. That's the guy.
00:58:18
werthersoriginal
He was in something else, but I cannot recall. I've seen his face.
00:58:21
DeeBo
He was in The 100, which I didn't see.
00:58:24
werthersoriginal
No.
00:58:26
DeeBo
He was in 89 episodes of that.
00:58:26
werthersoriginal
didn't watch Oh my god.
00:58:29
DeeBo
Yeah.
00:58:32
werthersoriginal
Were there 100 episodes or what?
00:58:34
DeeBo
oh Oh, God damn
00:58:35
werthersoriginal
What else? There's gotta be something else. I know I recognize this face.
00:58:38
DeeBo
ah
00:58:41
DeeBo
it. Law and Order Criminal Dent. No.
00:58:44
werthersoriginal
Never mind.
00:58:44
DeeBo
ah Low Lives. He was in a movie called Low Lives.
00:58:47
werthersoriginal
No.
00:58:48
DeeBo
He was in episode of Tracker, Chris.
00:58:50
werthersoriginal
Damn it! No, I don't watch Tracker.
00:58:52
Steve-O
You don't watch tracker.
00:58:54
werthersoriginal
Unlike everybody else on planet Earth, I don't like Tracker.
00:58:59
werthersoriginal
Sorry, guys.
00:58:59
DeeBo
You're a real piece of shit.
00:59:02
werthersoriginal
I'll bear this cross for as long as I have to.
00:59:05
DeeBo
All right. And yeah, we saw something that was very good, but I would not say uplifting. We saw the latest Last of Us episode, the penultimate.
00:59:16
Steve-O
Is it really the penultimate?
00:59:17
DeeBo
Yeah, there's one left, dude.
00:59:17
Steve-O
We're almost already done. God dang, dude.
00:59:19
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
00:59:19
DeeBo
And I'll be honest.
00:59:19
werthersoriginal
seen
00:59:20
Dick VanMeat
I got, dude, I got feelings about this, man. I don't know.
00:59:24
werthersoriginal
You weren't happy with it?
00:59:24
DeeBo
About this episode or this season?
00:59:26
Dick VanMeat
About this episode.
00:59:27
werthersoriginal
Well, obviously you weren't happy, but yeah
00:59:29
Dick VanMeat
i mean, I, I sat on it.
00:59:31
DeeBo
Okay.
00:59:32
Dick VanMeat
I just, I don't know. You guys all watched it, right?
00:59:35
werthersoriginal
course.
00:59:36
Steve-O
Yep.
00:59:36
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
00:59:36
DeeBo
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:59:38
werthersoriginal
Tell me what you're feeling.
00:59:38
Dick VanMeat
Am I, am I the, am I the only one that wasn't really like, okay, so they changed, like, they changed a lot, like, uh,
00:59:41
DeeBo
Well, I want to...
00:59:42
Steve-O
Yeah, I'm curious. I just...
00:59:49
Dick VanMeat
I don't want to say a lot of it, but like they changed, they changed some big things in, in the story from the game.
00:59:50
werthersoriginal
Yeah. They did.
00:59:57
Dick VanMeat
And I get that they were trying to like the whole Eugene's death being like the catalyst of Ellie's questioning.
00:59:57
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
01:00:07
Dick VanMeat
Like, cause the way it happens in the game, right.
01:00:09
werthersoriginal
goal for who he is.
01:00:09
Dick VanMeat
Is Ellie. Yeah. It's Ellie figures it out on her own and, and then confronts Joel.
01:00:14
DeeBo
yeah
01:00:16
Dick VanMeat
Right. Whereas with, with the with the show, it's just Ellie kind of, I guess, suppressed her doubts about Joel telling the truth until the Eugene situation happens, and then and then she kind of...
01:00:29
werthersoriginal
That was a catalyst.
01:00:31
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, and it...
01:00:32
DeeBo
It was almost like, i don't want to say cat, because she was curious before.
01:00:32
Dick VanMeat
and
01:00:35
DeeBo
she was as she was like
01:00:35
werthersoriginal
She was. was.
01:00:36
DeeBo
She was coaching herself through these questions.
01:00:37
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, but they but she had to, like...
01:00:38
DeeBo
But it was very much like, this is the confirmation. Yeah, that'd be why.
01:00:42
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, the confirmation was, like, it was... She basically had to betray Joel... to get here, which is, which feels, which kind of feels weird to me.
01:00:51
DeeBo
I mean, Joel betrayed her when he lied again.
01:00:51
Dick VanMeat
Right.
01:00:53
Dick VanMeat
i get that. no, no. I get that. But like, it's like, I don't, it changed the context.
01:00:56
werthersoriginal
It changes the context quite a bit, doesn't it?
01:00:59
Dick VanMeat
ah Yeah. Quite a bit.
01:01:01
werthersoriginal
It does.
01:01:01
Dick VanMeat
and then, um and like the, the other main thing is like, you know, then the porch scene becomes the confrontation about the truth.
01:01:02
werthersoriginal
You're right.
01:01:14
Dick VanMeat
Right. As opposed to what it was in the in the game, which is like that was Ellie coming.
01:01:22
werthersoriginal
Isn't going back to the hospital? Where did they go?
01:01:27
Dick VanMeat
yeah Yeah, it was like I think she she runs away back to the hospital and then and then like figure like she finds tapes and stuff and then and then she and then Joel find like tracks her down and finds her and is worried or whatever and then and then she's like you know she gives them the whole like the stuff that they compressed into the porch scene.
01:01:31
werthersoriginal
Right? Yeah. Circle.
01:01:45
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, but what I was saying is like the porch scene is just in the game is Ellie coming to terms with with who Joel is, what Joel did, and then trying to work from there.
01:01:57
Dick VanMeat
Whereas the porch scene in the show is an amalgamation of it's everything compressed into that.
01:02:02
werthersoriginal
all of it. Yeah. She didn't process it. She didn't process it enough to have that moment that
01:02:06
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, and like yeah, and like and and what really kind of kills me is like that I don't know like
01:02:09
Steve-O
Right.
01:02:14
Dick VanMeat
if I don't know if it would make sense to do it do it this way in in a TV show. But like like i was telling Sam, like that scene is the end of the game.
01:02:24
Steve-O
right
01:02:24
Dick VanMeat
like
01:02:25
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:02:25
Dick VanMeat
And like the the whole the issue i have with that the show is like in the game, like it's earned like that moment is earned because of what you go through in the entire game.
01:02:37
Dick VanMeat
And I just feel like this at this point in time, and just her just hurt killing Nora only...
01:02:40
werthersoriginal
They blew it too early.
01:02:44
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:02:44
Dick VanMeat
Like, that's the only thing she's done so far is just killed Nora. Like, I don't know if, like, that moment is is earned by by the story, if that makes any sense. I don't know. It's just...
01:02:55
DeeBo
I mean, I get it. I also think it's like, you're not going to keep a lid on that. I feel like it's not even like, oh, it's so precious.
01:03:02
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, but, like, why do it why do it here?
01:03:04
DeeBo
You keep it a secret.
01:03:05
Dick VanMeat
like why Like, she's definitely going to kill the rest of the team, right?
01:03:06
DeeBo
i
01:03:08
Dick VanMeat
Before before confronting Abby at the end. Like... There is also, I mean, I don't know if they're going to go this route in the show because nothing is confirmed about who Owen and Mel are just yet, right?
01:03:21
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:03:21
Dick VanMeat
But there is a big moment in the game where she fucking kills a dog and then a pregnant woman. like Like, that stuff is huge. and I'm expecting it leading up to almost that point in the end of the of the next episode or whatever.
01:03:37
Dick VanMeat
Like, don't get me wrong. It was a good episode. like I'm glad that they kept all the stuff stuff in there. it's just I just feel like...
01:03:43
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:03:44
werthersoriginal
John, I really think it's contract shit. I think if they only had Pedro for the season, they knew they couldn't extend it out for the next season and have that team.
01:03:47
DeeBo
It might be.
01:03:53
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, that feels bad.
01:03:54
DeeBo
They're like, oh, oh, so we're going to get them for one scene and like.
01:03:58
werthersoriginal
yeah
01:03:58
Steve-O
You know, I thought they were going to like kind of intersperse it a little more because I was like, all right, we're going to get the we're going to get the museum scene in this one. And like, oh, no, we're getting everything in this one.
01:04:07
werthersoriginal
um
01:04:08
Steve-O
Like, God damn, we're just kind of blowing our Pedro load right here.
01:04:10
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, it just, yeah, it feels like, i mean, again, like, a lot of people have issues with how it was paced in the game, and I'm not gonna say that it was, like, perfectly executed in the game, right?
01:04:23
Dick VanMeat
But, like, it would have been... Because, like, the first thing Sam asked me was, like, she was like, oh, like, are there, is there, like, flashback, is there this flashback in the game? I'm like, well, yeah, like, you find a guitar here, she plays a little bit of the song,
01:04:39
Dick VanMeat
And then there's a flashback. And it's like part of this. And then you you go through the game. And then you get you earn you earn another piece of the flashback.
01:04:47
werthersoriginal
Mm-hmm.
01:04:49
Dick VanMeat
And then you go through the game a little bit more. And you earn another piece of the flashback. That's how it's like shaped in the game. and like I don't know.
01:04:56
DeeBo
yeah
01:04:56
Dick VanMeat
maybe Maybe they could have done it more like that a little bit. But...
01:05:00
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:05:02
Dick VanMeat
I don't know. um i'm not I don't think it was bad. But I am a little disappointed. Because... And again, we just got, like, i we better get 20-minute montage of, like, commando montage of Tommy fucking murdering a bunch of WLFs.
01:05:18
DeeBo
I don't think we're getting any that. I really...
01:05:20
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, and you know, and, i mean, they they they they, what I wanted to say last week, on last week's episode, was that I was glad that they mentioned, you know, first off, I fucking chubbed up when Jesse showed ah showed up in that episode.
01:05:35
Dick VanMeat
I was like, hell yeah.
01:05:35
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:05:35
Dick VanMeat
I'm like, this is it This is awesome. Like, fucking jesse's a badass like and i like i love how like ah let me let me get this out of the way i loved last the last episode the previous one i thought it was all amazing like that was incredible episode and then like um you know like the the fact where you' you kind of like you see the hand come out and you're kind of like you know it's not joel but like just the way that ellie responded
01:05:40
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:05:47
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
01:05:58
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
01:06:02
Dick VanMeat
to her being rescued at that point in time, like, you're just like, oh my god, is it Joel? Even though you know in the back of your mind it's not him.
01:06:08
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:06:08
Dick VanMeat
Like, I'm glad that they, that the, the show and the writing was, like, was able to fuck with us like that. Like, I think that's cool. Like, that stuff's really cool. Um, I just, ah, man, this episode, and i don't know, maybe I was, like I was expecting this episode to, like, fucking really be, like, the episode, like, the, like,
01:06:32
Dick VanMeat
the episode.
01:06:33
DeeBo
Like the episode three or whatever season one.
01:06:33
Steve-O
i
01:06:33
Dick VanMeat
I still think the best...
01:06:34
Steve-O
Yeah, I think they wanted it to be last season's, the one with Ron Swanson.
01:06:39
werthersoriginal
and
01:06:40
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:06:40
werthersoriginal
Nick Offerman.
01:06:41
Steve-O
Nick
01:06:42
DeeBo
yeah
01:06:42
Dick VanMeat
I still think yeah i still think the the Joel Death episode is actually the best one, I think, so far still, like on terms of like content and acting.
01:06:50
DeeBo
I'll be honest. i just finding out that there's only one left. I'm kind of like, I kind of look back and I'm like, what, what even happened?
01:06:59
Dick VanMeat
What are they going to do?
01:07:00
DeeBo
Like what happened to this season?
01:07:00
Dick VanMeat
They show a boat. Dude, they show a fucking boat too.
01:07:02
DeeBo
You know,
01:07:04
Dick VanMeat
And I'm like, dude, is she just going to fucking... Is she going to kill... Like, are we going to find out Mel's pregnant? She's going to kill Mel and a dog and bunch of other people?
01:07:11
DeeBo
ah You know what happened? you know All right. this is This is my guess, right? I think she's going to.
01:07:17
Dick VanMeat
Jesse's going die. It's going to end there.
01:07:19
DeeBo
Yeah, no, no. I think i this what think.
01:07:20
Dick VanMeat
That's what I'm going to have in.
01:07:21
DeeBo
I think Jesse going to That's going to fully officially send Tommy. Then I think because now now Tommy doesn't even have Jesse to be like, oh, Jesse will take over. Like, fuck it Everything's fucked.
01:07:35
DeeBo
I also think ah Ellie is going to kill, you know, Owen and and the pregnant woman whose name I can't remember.
01:07:42
Dick VanMeat
But we don't even know that Mel's pregnant yet.
01:07:44
DeeBo
No, no, this is the thing, right? I think she's going to kill them and it will just help be.
01:07:47
Dick VanMeat
Oh, we don't... We're not gonna find out till next season that she's pregnant.
01:07:50
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah. And then like last season, you know, next season, and you're going to get to know these characters and then you're going be oh, wait, those are the two characters that got fucking wasted by Ellie almost randomly in this episode.
01:07:53
Dick VanMeat
Uh... Okay.
01:07:59
werthersoriginal
Yep.
01:07:59
Dick VanMeat
Right.
01:08:01
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:08:01
Dick VanMeat
Does Allie kill the dog, too?
01:08:03
DeeBo
Yeah. Dude, didn't that wasn't there that scene where they're, hey, bear, or whatever they said.
01:08:05
Dick VanMeat
Bro.
01:08:09
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:10
DeeBo
he like specifically calls the dog of the girl's
01:08:11
Dick VanMeat
Oh yeah, they're like, yeah, the dog beat something, yeah.
01:08:14
DeeBo
Yeah, and I'm like, oh, yeah
01:08:15
Dick VanMeat
um Meanwhile, Shimmer is just in a fucking garage outside a fucking record store in Seattle somewhere, dying.
01:08:21
DeeBo
man. Yeah.
01:08:23
Dick VanMeat
Poor Shimmer.
01:08:23
DeeBo
no But like, ah yeah, but honestly, i really do kind of look at the season and I'm like, like, nothing has really happened, you know?
01:08:35
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, and is it is it because we know like,
01:08:38
DeeBo
It's not a helping that we know, like for sure
01:08:38
Dick VanMeat
like ah Yeah, do you think do you think it's because we know that, like,
01:08:43
DeeBo
Well, it's like, okay, Joel dies She goes to find Abby, she's killed one person and then the episodes go in, then the season's over.
01:08:53
DeeBo
Like we're seeing, you know, we're going to, whatever happens in the next episode is going to happen, but it's like three things have really happened in eight episodes, ah seven episodes.
01:08:54
werthersoriginal
Yeah. Good point, guys.
01:09:01
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. Yeah, and i and i want to say i want to say that they yeah i want to say that they rushed some of the stuff just just in case they got cancelled, but, like,
01:09:04
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:09:09
Dick VanMeat
the The thing is is, we only got one episode of Isaac, and we only got one episode of Abby, and that's it. So i was like, they theyre definitely definitely made this season with the thought of of making season three already, which was going to be...
01:09:14
Steve-O
yeah
01:09:14
DeeBo
yeah And it's like, okay, clearly.
01:09:21
Steve-O
Seven.
01:09:21
DeeBo
i
01:09:21
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:09:22
DeeBo
What also kind of concerns me, though, is I'm like, are we going to push this to even season four? Like, is season four going to be the Abby and Lev, like, in the fucking L.A.
01:09:28
Steve-O
It feels like it.
01:09:31
DeeBo
or wherever the fuck, wherever they go?
01:09:33
Dick VanMeat
Oh, the Santa Cat... san cattles or the Catalina or whatever, the...
01:09:36
DeeBo
yeah but is that going to be its own season? Because, like, how much are we stretching this?
01:09:38
Steve-O
Dude, at this at this rate, season four is going to be them climbing the sky skyscrapers still.
01:09:45
DeeBo
Yeah, dude, this is, you know what this is? This is like Attack on Titan final season.
01:09:47
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, because they gotta they have to go...
01:09:49
werthersoriginal
ahll hold on. I do think the next seasons are going to be longer. They they have to be. But I think, that again, the truncated season is just paid for it.
01:09:57
Dick VanMeat
no no, no. This is what's going happen, Chris. This is what's going to happen. Season 3 is going to be broken into two parts. that's and have it ah That's what's going to happen.
01:10:05
werthersoriginal
Oh, no.
01:10:07
werthersoriginal
Shut Take your mouth.
01:10:07
Steve-O
oh
01:10:08
Dick VanMeat
You better sit down, Chris.
01:10:10
werthersoriginal
Take your mouth!
01:10:11
Dick VanMeat
You've got to wait six months.
01:10:12
werthersoriginal
No! No!
01:10:15
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
01:10:15
Dick VanMeat
This Craig Mason's show now.
01:10:17
werthersoriginal
Yeah,
01:10:19
Dick VanMeat
Yo, also, that, um... I want to fucking just talk about, like, the the episode before this last one. It was very, like, Chernobyl-y. Especially with, like, the, um... The introduction of the spores and stuff.
01:10:33
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:10:33
DeeBo
and
01:10:33
werthersoriginal
yeah. yeah
01:10:34
Dick VanMeat
Like, that was, like... Yeah, dude, that episode was fucking awesome, dude.
01:10:37
werthersoriginal
It was awesome. Yeah, that was, that probably is, I'll be real, that's my favorite episode of the year.
01:10:38
Dick VanMeat
Like, david but yeah, can we talk about that episode? Because we didn't get we didn't get to talk about that episode. That's a dude because the they had the cold open with the with the woman that sealed the first off.
01:10:51
Dick VanMeat
I love that this is like kind of like introducing the rat king and Leon.
01:10:53
werthersoriginal
I like all the new stuff. I like this.
01:10:54
Steve-O
Leon. leon
01:10:56
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:10:57
Dick VanMeat
And then you find out that it's her. It was her son like at the very end of the scene. I'm like, oh, man, this is and like what really like got to me was like she was like kind of like in Joel's position, but she went the other way. Like she didn't save her son. She ended up saving the community over her son.
01:11:14
Dick VanMeat
Which is like, which is kind of cool that they like put that in there. Like, I like thought that was really, really neat. um yeah but Yeah, maybe that was the best episode, dog.
01:11:25
Dick VanMeat
I don't know.
01:11:26
werthersoriginal
my favorite. I love the Joel episode, but...
01:11:28
Dick VanMeat
And maybe it's because maybe it's because it was the most Chernobyl episode that we got. It was the most Craig Mazin.
01:11:33
werthersoriginal
Maybe.
01:11:34
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:11:35
Dick VanMeat
That was the most Craig Mazin episode we got.
01:11:37
werthersoriginal
It's also, they they nailed that chase. Like, that's that was like right out of the game.
01:11:40
Dick VanMeat
Oh, yeah, dude.
01:11:40
Steve-O
ah
01:11:40
werthersoriginal
It was perfect.
01:11:41
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. And like there inkt their inkling towards B3, B3, B3.
01:11:42
werthersoriginal
I just...
01:11:46
werthersoriginal
Yep.
01:11:47
Dick VanMeat
And like, there was a thing I saw on Twitter where it was like, I guess they were getting interviewed and and Craig Mazin was like, well, we don't, nobody knows what's on B3.
01:11:47
werthersoriginal
Yep.
01:11:57
Dick VanMeat
And Druckmann's like, I think the gamers know what's on B3.
01:12:01
DeeBo
yeah
01:12:02
werthersoriginal
yeah
01:12:02
Dick VanMeat
I think they might have an idea of what's what's down there.
01:12:06
werthersoriginal
Big boy.
01:12:06
Dick VanMeat
But, oh man. So I guess we're not getting Racketing this season, which is fine.
01:12:09
werthersoriginal
No.
01:12:10
DeeBo
No, dude, we're not getting back. Thanks.
01:12:11
Dick VanMeat
Which is fine, dog. Which is fine. I'm glad. I hope.
01:12:13
werthersoriginal
raing Rat King costs more than Pedro.
01:12:15
Dick VanMeat
right
01:12:16
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:12:17
werthersoriginal
That guy's contract's huge.
01:12:19
Dick VanMeat
Oh, what did you, yo, what'd you guys think of the, of the, of the cold open of this episode with, with, um, Joel's dad, Joel and Tommy's dad?
01:12:25
Steve-O
Alalo?
01:12:27
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:12:27
werthersoriginal
He had a lot less all along.
01:12:27
Steve-O
Fucking showing up at every goddamn show. He's in Daredevil?
01:12:29
werthersoriginal
mean,
01:12:30
Dick VanMeat
ah yeah Oh yeah.
01:12:30
Steve-O
He's in this? Mm-hmm.
01:12:31
werthersoriginal
Listen, he would be...
01:12:32
Dick VanMeat
Oh yeah. He's in and better call. All right.
01:12:34
werthersoriginal
I wouldn't believe him as Pedro Pascal's father. That's the thing. I'm like, okay.
01:12:40
Dick VanMeat
Oh, because he's too recognizable of of ah of a face for you? That you can't, eat it you're not sold on it?
01:12:44
werthersoriginal
No, I just... i just i i They look similar in a lot ways. They have very handsome features.
01:12:50
Dick VanMeat
Oh, you're i thought you were saying that you weren't you weren't sold on the fat.
01:12:53
werthersoriginal
They're both really handsome men.
01:12:55
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:12:55
werthersoriginal
They're very, very handsome men.
01:12:55
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:12:56
werthersoriginal
And it's like, oh, I get it.
01:12:59
Dick VanMeat
Dude, Joel's dad fucking beat his ass, dude.
01:12:59
werthersoriginal
The resemblance
01:13:01
Dick VanMeat
What the fuck?
01:13:03
werthersoriginal
He's a good actor. That guy's was great. I loved him as Lalo. He's great in this little small part in the episode.
01:13:08
DeeBo
Thank you.
01:13:10
Dick VanMeat
It was interesting, this scene, because we didn't like we don't we didn't get any of that in the game about Joel's dad.
01:13:15
werthersoriginal
That's what i'm saying. in like I do like i like their the additions they're making.
01:13:16
Dick VanMeat
like This stuff is cool.
01:13:20
werthersoriginal
I guess i what you're saying, John, is I don't like the subtractions. I think that's losing time.
01:13:25
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, and like some of the compression that they have where they're just combining stuff. like it's it's just I don't know. Maybe it's different if you didn't play the game. Because we...
01:13:34
werthersoriginal
Because I'll tell you, as much as you know that scene with Joe Pantoliano, what the hell, what's his name?
01:13:35
Dick VanMeat
you know
01:13:43
Steve-O
Oh, Cypher.
01:13:44
werthersoriginal
Cypher.
01:13:44
DeeBo
Thank you.
01:13:44
werthersoriginal
Thank you very much.
01:13:45
Dick VanMeat
i Cypher.
01:13:46
werthersoriginal
That scene, I liked all of that. with I did. like that that That scene was cool.
01:13:50
Dick VanMeat
Cypher.
01:13:52
werthersoriginal
And it's sad. And like that
01:13:55
Steve-O
Just let me go back, Joel. Come on, Joel. Let me go back. have some steak with my wife before I die.
01:14:03
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, let me eat this juicy, delicious steak that I know is not real before I die.
01:14:08
werthersoriginal
I love that guy. I love, love the Sopranos.
01:14:10
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:14:12
werthersoriginal
I think he had a very small role that he nailed.
01:14:16
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:14:17
werthersoriginal
And I guess that's but the issue too. It's because I know you're right, John, the context isn't there, but the addition of that scene and a lot of the others, I'm like, of paves over the cracks a bit.
01:14:24
Dick VanMeat
I thought they were going to go deeper with that.
01:14:28
werthersoriginal
It paves over the
01:14:28
Dick VanMeat
I thought that I thought they were going to lean into the fact that um that Eugene was a firefly and that he found finds out about what Joel did and threatens to out him.
01:14:38
Steve-O
Yeah, that sort of
01:14:41
Dick VanMeat
But they kind of just used like so. So just in a vacuum, like you can't really disagree with what Joel did there. Right. Because like ah who knows when he's going to turn.
01:14:52
DeeBo
i
01:14:53
Dick VanMeat
or Or do you just...
01:14:53
DeeBo
You could have fucking, you could have did it.
01:14:55
Dick VanMeat
or is that or is the Or is the ethics like you wait until he starts turning and then you shoot him?
01:15:02
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:15:02
Dick VanMeat
Is that the ethics?
01:15:02
DeeBo
Like it's kind of what that one's like, it's pretty hard to defend Joel on that one.
01:15:08
Dick VanMeat
So what was his motive then? did he do it? Yeah.
01:15:11
DeeBo
No, I think Joel's just like, absolutely not.
01:15:11
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:15:13
DeeBo
Like I'm protecting town.
01:15:15
werthersoriginal
He's very protective. He's protective of Ellie.
01:15:16
DeeBo
Yeah, he has like the savior complex.
01:15:17
werthersoriginal
He's protective of the town.
01:15:20
DeeBo
He's like, i gotta i gotta I'll take the hit.
01:15:22
Dick VanMeat
yeah i'll do a what yeah I'll do whatever it takes to make sure that people are safe.
01:15:26
DeeBo
Yeah. But it's just like...
01:15:27
werthersoriginal
But a lot of times, whatever it takes in his mind, people are like, you didn't have to do that.
01:15:31
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:15:32
werthersoriginal
kind of he He leaps sometimes before he looks, but he he's always thinking one thought.
01:15:33
Dick VanMeat
It was interesting.
01:15:39
werthersoriginal
i have to protect everybody. And this is this is my goal. My only job.
01:15:44
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:15:46
Steve-O
I feel like it wasn't like the bit biggest deal, Joel, man. You kind of kind of blew that one up a little bit, buddy.
01:15:51
DeeBo
Yeah, I was like, Joel, you could ah you could have been cool about it, man. He was not cool about it.
01:15:57
Dick VanMeat
Well, that's why I'm kind of like... That's why I lean towards like that it wasn't...
01:16:00
werthersoriginal
was also Ellie's first patrol, too. Remember, like, this is her first time out. So Joel is probably ultra protective at this point.
01:16:11
werthersoriginal
He even took her on the easiest trail.
01:16:11
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, just...
01:16:13
werthersoriginal
Like, this was not something he was met wanted to do with Ellie at this point.
01:16:18
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:16:20
werthersoriginal
That's...
01:16:21
Dick VanMeat
Baby girl.
01:16:22
werthersoriginal
That... I burped a baby girl.
01:16:23
Dick VanMeat
Baby girl.
01:16:25
werthersoriginal
I burped a baby girl. That made me sad. That scene made me cry a little bit.
01:16:30
Dick VanMeat
Which one?
01:16:31
DeeBo
what which Yeah.
01:16:32
werthersoriginal
Happy birthday, baby girl.
01:16:33
Steve-O
um a boat
01:16:33
Dick VanMeat
Oh, that.
01:16:34
werthersoriginal
He gave her like guitar and he was awkwardly talking about Dremels.
01:16:34
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, the fucking... the um yeah but
01:16:39
Steve-O
He got so excited about Trevles.
01:16:41
werthersoriginal
yeah
01:16:41
Steve-O
It really is quite a super tool.
01:16:44
Dick VanMeat
Also, like seeing Joel's single tear scream down his face inside the inside the lunar module was like...
01:16:49
DeeBo
Yeah,
01:16:52
Steve-O
Oh my God, dude.
01:16:53
werthersoriginal
That was a very cool beat.
01:16:54
Dick VanMeat
I was like, fuck! Fuck!
01:16:55
Steve-O
Like, that's the thing. Like, you know, there, there was some definitely shaky things about the episode, but Pedro Pascal, man.
01:16:57
DeeBo
I will say he was...
01:17:01
DeeBo
He was real good.
01:17:01
werthersoriginal
He's very good actor.
01:17:02
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:17:02
werthersoriginal
He's a very good actor.
01:17:04
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:17:04
Steve-O
These are... Dude, like, that whole scene on the porch, like, just, like, seeing his, like, eyes be all glassy and, like...
01:17:06
werthersoriginal
Wait, hold on.
01:17:07
Dick VanMeat
ah Yeah.
01:17:10
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay yeah, can I talk about that?
01:17:10
Steve-O
Oh.
01:17:11
werthersoriginal
let Hold on.
01:17:12
Dick VanMeat
Because...
01:17:13
werthersoriginal
90% of this show is great acting.
01:17:15
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:17:16
werthersoriginal
Like, it's all great.
01:17:16
Dick VanMeat
I just think... Yeah, the... Some of the stuff they threw into the dialogue on the porch scene on Joel's end just seemed like a little bit too much to me, too.
01:17:26
Dick VanMeat
Because, like...
01:17:27
DeeBo
You know, this is your this is your Seth hate that I had. I'm like...
01:17:33
Dick VanMeat
but, like... yeah Because he's just, like... like I feel like you don't need to have Joel tell Ellie I love you, right? Because he doesn't seem like that type of person.
01:17:43
DeeBo
But has he ever? I feel like he hates...
01:17:45
Dick VanMeat
He's never said it. He's never said it in the game.
01:17:47
DeeBo
So, like, fuck it, dude. Fuck it. It's the only time he's ever you're ever going to hear him say it.
01:17:50
Dick VanMeat
I don't know. Yeah, maybe maybe I just hold the port scene I hold to such a high standard and such a such an enormous pedestal that whatever they did I was going to be unhappy with anyway.
01:17:55
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:18:03
Dick VanMeat
So maybe that's what it is.
01:18:03
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
01:18:05
Dick VanMeat
But it's just like... cause that um I'm gonna be honest, dude. like That end was like... That end in the game fucking broke fucking broke my soul in half.
01:18:14
DeeBo
yeah
01:18:14
Steve-O
Right.
01:18:15
Dick VanMeat
when when you when When you get to that point... When Ellie says, my life would have fucking mattered... like That shit fucking shattered my soul... When I play when i played through it the first time. And like... because It's because of the entire journey that you go through in the game.
01:18:31
Dick VanMeat
especially... and especially
01:18:33
DeeBo
Yeah, because you realize like...
01:18:33
Dick VanMeat
Because, yeah, especially because she doesn't kill, this is the explanation of why she ends up not killing Abby and not continuing the cycle of violence, like, at the very end.
01:18:43
Steve-O
right
01:18:43
Dick VanMeat
like Like, that, like, that, like, I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm a fucking, I'm a fucking hater. Just label me a hater.
01:18:49
Steve-O
Well, they did the opposite. They did the opposite. They said, but well, Joel, you know, was a great so great that we're going to smash this person's face in over it.
01:18:57
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, we have to, we have to do it, we gotta do it now. We gotta do it now. this is so This is the... What is it called? The price? That was the day of this episode?
01:19:06
Steve-O
Yeah, it was.
01:19:07
Dick VanMeat
This is the price that we all have to pay so we get the fucking Rat King in Season 3. This is the price they have to pay.
01:19:15
Steve-O
hbo HBO only gave us say seven episodes.
01:19:15
DeeBo
Thank you.
01:19:15
werthersoriginal
Yeah,
01:19:19
Dick VanMeat
Alright?
01:19:19
Steve-O
The price we have to pay is you get Pedro now.
01:19:20
Dick VanMeat
ah so do you want Do you want Pedro? do you want Pedro or Rat King in Season 3? You gotta pick one. Because the Rat King is gonna be the whole budget. I hope.
01:19:28
Steve-O
we We don't want to hold on to this footage. We don't want to hold on to it. we you know We don't know if we get a third season if we don't show Pedro now.
01:19:33
Dick VanMeat
But I'm like, dude, I'm fucking... I'm fucking antsy for Abby, dude. I need i need the Abby and Lev story.
01:19:38
werthersoriginal
me too.
01:19:39
Steve-O
Yeah. what
01:19:39
Dick VanMeat
I need that shit. I need it like i need air.
01:19:40
Steve-O
Maybe... Maybe they're like, Abby, go buff up. Go.
01:19:45
Dick VanMeat
And there's a...
01:19:45
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:19:46
Dick VanMeat
Dude, therea there's a... lot of There's a lot of stuff they gotta to go through, too. like and not only the Isaac shit, but like the scars.
01:19:50
Steve-O
They really do.
01:19:53
Dick VanMeat
like the entire like how How Lev is like trans. How she was supposed to be some fucking handmaiden. To be... to Some... She was supposed to be some 12-year-old wife to some fucking like old man to to pro so procreate in the scar.
01:20:09
Dick VanMeat
They gotta go through all that shit. like it's and ah like ah I don't know. A lot of people were saying that um they think that you know that those two scars that end up dying the the girl and that you're supposed to believe that it was a father and daughter, but she never calls them dad.
01:20:23
DeeBo
or
01:20:25
Dick VanMeat
They were kind of alluding to like, oh, maybe they were married, but they just didn't.
01:20:30
DeeBo
but Because they want you to feel bad that they're dead.
01:20:30
Dick VanMeat
didn't do that yet because that i mean that's they want you to feel bad for them yeah right now but then you find out like probably later when you find out more about the seraphites that not nah dude that dude was fucked fuck that dude was fucked they're all fucked uh but it was cool seeing them disemboweled dude that was pretty sick i know chris i know chris likes that shit he loves body horror
01:20:50
Steve-O
Yeah, that was was wild.
01:20:55
werthersoriginal
Yeah, that's why i got it that's why I got a boner, and that's why it's my favorite.
01:20:58
Dick VanMeat
That's why that's your favorite episode.
01:20:59
Steve-O
That scene, though, that was from the yeah release the release trailer, right?
01:20:59
Dick VanMeat
I mean, yeah, can we talk about that real quick?
01:21:03
Steve-O
Remember when they announced Last of Us 2?
01:21:05
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, but he didn't yeah they didn't have the disemboweling part.
01:21:06
Steve-O
yeah
01:21:09
Dick VanMeat
the The act of them doing it was was kind of fucking sick.
01:21:13
werthersoriginal
Yeah, it was.
01:21:13
Steve-O
That's HBO.
01:21:13
Dick VanMeat
Because, like, they just put the they just put the yeah the sickle in the and the in the belly and then they just raise the dude up and then the fucking entrails just pour out.
01:21:14
Steve-O
That's HBO, man.
01:21:14
werthersoriginal
Raise him up.
01:21:22
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
01:21:23
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:21:23
Dick VanMeat
That's, ugh.
01:21:23
DeeBo
It was little too smooth.
01:21:25
Dick VanMeat
I love that shit, dude.
01:21:26
DeeBo
How sharp was that thing?
01:21:26
Dick VanMeat
Give me more of that.
01:21:27
DeeBo
Jesus.
01:21:27
werthersoriginal
That thing was shwomp.
01:21:31
Steve-O
Is this sharp?
01:21:31
Dick VanMeat
So yeah, man.
01:21:32
werthersoriginal
That's what that guy asked before the scene started.
01:21:35
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, I need i just need i need Abby, dude. So Abby's with Lev right now? Is that what's going on?
01:21:41
DeeBo
I think timeline-wise, yeah.
01:21:42
Dick VanMeat
Lev's lovev sister saves Abby's life or some shit right now? And they're just running through trying to... Oh man, it's like there's a lot of shit, man.
01:21:53
DeeBo
Dude, Tommy's about to get his fucking face blown off.
01:21:57
Dick VanMeat
Dude, Todd, they better be making a fucking... the Great Wall of China with fucking body bags that tom that Tommy is laying out, right, in the next episode, dude.
01:22:06
DeeBo
Dude, what if Tommy just goes like, you know what? It's just not worth it, man. I'm going back on the mic.
01:22:11
Dick VanMeat
No!
01:22:11
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:22:12
Dick VanMeat
He just lights up a fucking stogie, and he's like, you know what, dog?
01:22:14
DeeBo
Bye, guys. Bye, guys.
01:22:16
Dick VanMeat
You know, my brother my brother asked for it, man. He's yeah he's been like this for years.
01:22:20
DeeBo
yeah He never would have wanted me to take revenge.
01:22:24
werthersoriginal
He was a real piece of shit back in the day.
01:22:25
Dick VanMeat
is... he
01:22:26
DeeBo
He was a real piece of shit.
01:22:26
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:22:29
werthersoriginal
He
01:22:29
Dick VanMeat
I mean, do you even know what he did? He fucking prevented a cure. Fuck. Fuck Joel.
01:22:36
DeeBo
yeah
01:22:37
Dick VanMeat
Fuck that he protected me from my abusive father when we were children.
01:22:38
DeeBo
Fuck that guy.
01:22:42
DeeBo
No, dude. His dad didn't seem like a bad guy.
01:22:45
Dick VanMeat
I mean, I think that's the point, right?
01:22:47
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:22:47
Dick VanMeat
Like. Like, yeah, he hit him, but like, that's just like, that's just how it was then.
01:22:49
werthersoriginal
he didn't punch his dick in the face. break his jaw.
01:22:53
Dick VanMeat
And he felt bad about it anyway.
01:22:55
Steve-O
Well, his grandfather broke his ja his jaw.
01:22:57
Dick VanMeat
It's deep.
01:22:58
Steve-O
Well, no, his father broke his jaw.
01:23:00
werthersoriginal
Yeah, punch him in the face.
01:23:01
Steve-O
He beat the shit out of Joel and Tommy.
01:23:01
DeeBo
Yeah, and he's like,
01:23:05
DeeBo
but like not as bad.
01:23:06
Steve-O
And then ah joel Joel doomed the earth.
01:23:07
werthersoriginal
Not that bad!
01:23:12
werthersoriginal
He took his abuse out on planet Earth.
01:23:15
Dick VanMeat
Oh, man.
01:23:17
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:23:21
DeeBo
Yeah, so, don't know, Joel. That was pretty bad.
01:23:24
Dick VanMeat
It's going to be, feel like it's going to be tough for, I don't know, maybe I don't have enough faith in the casual TV watcher audience, but I feel like going to be tough for them to get in on it, get into the Abby stuff.
01:23:41
werthersoriginal
Yeah, that's going to be a good, interesting shift.
01:23:42
Dick VanMeat
You know?
01:23:42
Steve-O
a
01:23:44
Dick VanMeat
gonna be a It's going to be a challenge, I think, for the show.
01:23:46
Steve-O
I mean, in general, it was just a litmus test for gamers, too. Like, it was hard for gamers to get past Joel dying.
01:23:51
Dick VanMeat
yeah but Yeah, but it's like like you have to get through through that because you want to see what happens in the game, right?
01:23:58
Steve-O
yeah
01:23:58
Dick VanMeat
With the show, it's like... i mean, maybe people felt the same way about the game. They just gave up.
01:24:04
Steve-O
People go God damn, this ain't me, and I'm putting Sopranos on me.
01:24:04
werthersoriginal
You know...
01:24:05
Dick VanMeat
Just didn't care.
01:24:08
werthersoriginal
hu
01:24:10
DeeBo
I mean, it's it's going to easy because you're probably not going to see like almost any Ellie next season.
01:24:10
werthersoriginal
but
01:24:16
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
01:24:17
DeeBo
Right? If it's...
01:24:18
Dick VanMeat
Oh, maybe everyone will love it then because everyone hates Bella Ramsey for some reason.
01:24:22
werthersoriginal
Yeah, she gets a lot of hate.
01:24:24
Steve-O
Wait, what's that about? Why?
01:24:26
Dick VanMeat
Because she doesn't like Ellie in the game.
01:24:26
werthersoriginal
Well...
01:24:29
DeeBo
She's not hot enough or whatever the fuck...
01:24:30
Dick VanMeat
ellie in the game
01:24:31
werthersoriginal
don't
01:24:32
Steve-O
um I forget.
Superman Trailer and DC Movie Critique
01:24:33
Steve-O
Yeah, we're in Nightmare World.
01:24:33
DeeBo
Listen, listen, I will say, i will say, i my critique is not with her ah acting ability. My personal critique is I do struggle to see her as somebody who's not like 15.
01:24:46
DeeBo
She just looks really young.
01:24:48
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:24:48
DeeBo
Like that's the way she looks.
01:24:49
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:24:50
werthersoriginal
you're saying like a physicality thing.
01:24:50
Dick VanMeat
But I like that they address that with the whole Brazilian jujitsu shit. Like, that's kind of cool.
01:24:55
DeeBo
No, for sure. But it's just like and during the flashback when she's 16, I'm like, yeah,
01:25:00
Dick VanMeat
She looks the same.
01:25:00
DeeBo
She looks the fucking exact same.
01:25:01
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, they just change her hair.
01:25:02
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:25:02
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:25:03
DeeBo
And like when she, like it's tough because it's a video game.
01:25:04
Dick VanMeat
But imagine how weird it would be if they recasted her and then they do flashbacks and it's and it's just aunt vivian it's just Aunt Vivian again from ah Fresh Brits.
01:25:10
DeeBo
Yeah, no, no, I agree.
01:25:14
DeeBo
Yeah. Like it's just, I will say my, my one critique is this.
01:25:16
werthersoriginal
Well, to that argument,
01:25:19
DeeBo
It's hard for me to like really see her as like an adult at this stage.
01:25:22
werthersoriginal
Isabella Merced is kind of small too, right?
01:25:22
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. Yeah.
01:25:25
werthersoriginal
She's not tall or she's kind of slight.
01:25:29
DeeBo
Well, that I mean, that's the thing, right?
01:25:30
werthersoriginal
Oh,
01:25:30
DeeBo
Is like when they're both acting like against each other, I'm like, this reads like a fucking high school. Like this reads like a teen pilot, like a teen comedy.
01:25:39
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. because they're all they're both they both seem pretty young
01:25:42
werthersoriginal
I see.
01:25:42
Dick VanMeat
yeah
01:25:42
werthersoriginal
I see. So it's both.
01:25:43
DeeBo
Yeah. So it's, it seems like they're, I'm watching something about 15 year olds, you know, cause they're just, I don't know.
01:25:44
werthersoriginal
Really?
01:25:50
DeeBo
i don't know. You know? And obviously they're like Bella Ramsey's like 19 or something. Like she's not old. by Annie Stratton. She's like still basically a fucking kid.
01:26:02
DeeBo
But it's just, I don't know. It's like tough for me to see them as adults at this point, even now.
01:26:11
werthersoriginal
Yeah, to some degree I agree, but like I'm just so used to tiny women beating people up in movies though.
01:26:11
DeeBo
But I'm like, okay.
01:26:19
werthersoriginal
Like I've seen them so many times.
01:26:19
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
01:26:21
werthersoriginal
Like Scarlett Johansson's Five Foot Nothing and and so is Florence Poe. and
01:26:26
DeeBo
Yeah, but like At the risk of like keeping this going, like have you ever looked at Scarlett Reyes and she's like, oh, she looks like she's 15?
01:26:34
werthersoriginal
No, you're right.
01:26:34
DeeBo
like Yeah, no, she just doesn't look...
01:26:36
werthersoriginal
That's very true.
01:26:38
DeeBo
Bella Ramsey just looks very young.
01:26:41
werthersoriginal
I think Isabella looks a little older than her, though.
01:26:41
DeeBo
She's got a baby face.
01:26:45
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:26:45
werthersoriginal
I do. I think she does fill it out as an adult.
01:26:49
DeeBo
Bella Ramsey's 21, and she she just looks...
01:26:50
Dick VanMeat
yeah
01:26:50
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
01:26:54
Dick VanMeat
Fills it out.
01:26:54
Steve-O
Is Bella Ramsey 21?
01:26:55
DeeBo
She is 21 according to the internet.
01:26:57
Steve-O
How old was she when she was in Game of Thrones?
01:26:57
Dick VanMeat
How was it?
01:27:00
werthersoriginal
Like 13, 12.
01:27:01
Dick VanMeat
Like five.
01:27:01
DeeBo
Probably like 12.
01:27:02
werthersoriginal
yeah thirteen
01:27:03
DeeBo
She is 23.
01:27:03
Dick VanMeat
How does how old is Isabella Merced?
01:27:04
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:27:05
Dick VanMeat
how old is Isabella Merced?
01:27:08
DeeBo
Got it.
01:27:14
werthersoriginal
Yeah, that makes
01:27:15
Dick VanMeat
Well, goddamn. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
01:27:18
DeeBo
yeah
01:27:19
werthersoriginal
sense.
01:27:20
Dick VanMeat
Yes!
01:27:21
werthersoriginal
Yes!
01:27:22
Dick VanMeat
Sorry, I'm watching an affiliate game.
01:27:23
werthersoriginal
Woo!
01:27:24
DeeBo
yeah
01:27:25
werthersoriginal
Oh.
01:27:26
Dick VanMeat
Can we talk about something that was actually good this week?
01:27:30
werthersoriginal
Yeah?
01:27:30
DeeBo
Oh, how dare you?
01:27:31
Dick VanMeat
Which is...
01:27:32
DeeBo
fucking dare
01:27:34
Dick VanMeat
Go over here. Time out, time out, time out, time out. Can we talk about something that didn't...
01:27:40
werthersoriginal
Make us sad?
01:27:41
Dick VanMeat
Change... That, yeah, I guess didn't make us sad.
01:27:44
DeeBo
you?
01:27:44
Dick VanMeat
but also But maybe made me tear up a little bit. Which was the Superman trailer.
01:27:49
werthersoriginal
Oh, my lord.
01:27:49
Steve-O
Oh.
01:27:50
DeeBo
Yeah, was a really good trailer.
01:27:51
Dick VanMeat
Bro.
01:27:52
DeeBo
I like that trailer quite a bit.
01:27:55
Dick VanMeat
I told... because like Okay, so this is the thing. There's like an Amazon... Amazon prime screening thing that you can sign up to maybe, to be, maybe possibly be able to see it on the seventh on July 7th or something.
01:28:07
werthersoriginal
Yeah, yeah, i saw that.
01:28:09
Dick VanMeat
So we're, me and Sam are going try, try to do that. But like, but the original plan was we were both going to take off on the 11th so we can see it or maybe the 10th at midnight to see it as early as possible, as early as possible.
01:28:23
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
01:28:23
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:28:24
Dick VanMeat
Right. So she was like, Oh, so like if we get into this, then, you know, we don't have to take off on the 11th. And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. And then I'll go see it by myself without you.
01:28:37
Dick VanMeat
Because, like, that was... I was like, we can't put all our eggs in that in that basket, Sam.
01:28:41
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:28:42
Dick VanMeat
Like... You know? Like, what the fuck, bro? Like, work with me here. Like, um I need this. I need to see this on... I need to see this on day zero.
01:28:53
Dick VanMeat
Like, as soon as possible, basically.
01:28:55
DeeBo
Yeah. Respect me.
01:28:57
werthersoriginal
So we're getting a Superman that cares about people again.
01:28:57
Dick VanMeat
Man, I...
01:29:01
Dick VanMeat
ah With parents that aren't fucking stupid, too.
01:29:01
werthersoriginal
ha ha ha ha.
01:29:04
Steve-O
ah
01:29:05
Dick VanMeat
How about that?
01:29:07
Dick VanMeat
and people People are like, the Snyder guys are ragging on the dude. Being like, ah well, Snyder...
01:29:11
DeeBo
oh my god, of course, man. Yeah.
01:29:13
werthersoriginal
I can't believe it. I cannot believe they would rag about this. I am so shocked.
01:29:18
Dick VanMeat
yeah oh my God.
01:29:21
DeeBo
oh
01:29:22
Dick VanMeat
Time out. First off, I'm glad to see that... um That Makan is alive. And amazing. I love it.
01:29:30
Steve-O
That's true.
01:29:31
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:29:31
Steve-O
Cleaning the boots.
01:29:31
Dick VanMeat
i thought she was I thought she was dead from the previous stuff because they never showed anything with her.
01:29:38
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:29:39
Dick VanMeat
ah But, dude, this – the fucking – the first – the interview was – oh, my god, dude.
01:29:46
werthersoriginal
I love that.
01:29:46
Steve-O
Yeah. That's a that's a gripper.
01:29:48
Dick VanMeat
God damn.
01:29:49
DeeBo
Oh, you mean man? Soft man who can't...
01:29:52
Dick VanMeat
Apparently, that was their – this was their this was their their audition screen test was that scene.
01:29:57
DeeBo
That makes sense. I believe it, yeah.
01:30:00
Dick VanMeat
like That seems like a James Gunn thing, right? like this if They need to make this work or or they they're not going work.
01:30:02
DeeBo
yeah It's nice because now the question's answered.
01:30:05
Dick VanMeat
like The most challenging part about them having a relationship together, like they need to make that work on the screen before we hire these guys.
01:30:15
DeeBo
Okay, like they're dating. She knows he's superman.
01:30:17
Dick VanMeat
They dating, she knows, right?
01:30:19
DeeBo
She knows.
01:30:20
Dick VanMeat
You know?
01:30:21
DeeBo
She fucking thrashes him in an interview.
01:30:25
Dick VanMeat
Dude, he is a...
01:30:25
DeeBo
Softest man alive.
01:30:27
Dick VanMeat
We were talking about Jason Duvall and Lucia Caminos as Crush of the Year, but... Dude, David Cornsweat.
01:30:34
werthersoriginal
He's got that baby look. He's got that cherubic face.
01:30:37
Dick VanMeat
And he has And he's not, like...
01:30:37
DeeBo
yeah
01:30:39
Dick VanMeat
This is gonna sound weird, Chris, but, like, he, like, emotes well. Like, he has emotion on his face.
01:30:44
werthersoriginal
Yes, he does.
01:30:45
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:30:46
DeeBo
Yeah, I haven't seen Superman emote like that ever.
01:30:46
Dick VanMeat
And, um again, Yeah, I'm not... i'm not um I don't want to rag on Cavill, because, you know, it's not really his fault. But, like, you know, how often did did that motherfucker fucking smile?
01:30:53
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:30:56
DeeBo
Superman has been stoic. Reeve was stoic. Cavill's stoic. ah I'll not do it.
01:31:02
Dick VanMeat
Oh my god, the Snyder fan, I hate to bring this up again, but like, there was a Snyder fan that got, it got like 20,000 likes, this tweet, where they were saying, they showed that the the screenshot of of Guy Gardner doing the hand thing, and they were like, this is not how Green Lanterns work!
01:31:16
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:31:17
Steve-O
oh
01:31:18
DeeBo
This isn't how it works.
01:31:21
Dick VanMeat
Constructs aren't supposed to are supposed to appear out of thin air, and everyone's like, dude have you ever fucking seen a green electric comic in your life like it's like if you just google it anything like that that's exactly how it works like it's not even like guns taking a liberty yeah there's not like you're taking a liberty with that like that's literally exactly how how they look in the comics jesus fucking christ these guys are gonna drive me these guys are gonna drive me crazy dude and it's all i get on my timeline like it
01:31:28
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:31:32
DeeBo
If you spend two seconds Googling it, you'll see that there never has to be, yeah.
01:31:34
Steve-O
o
01:31:45
Steve-O
Looking for any excuse.
01:31:48
werthersoriginal
That's the issue. They're arguing from from not a a good place at all. It's not going from...
01:31:54
Steve-O
ah
01:31:54
DeeBo
John, I'm jealous because that's all you get. I have to find it. I have to physically search for it.
01:31:59
Dick VanMeat
Really?
01:31:59
DeeBo
And I do.
01:32:00
Dick VanMeat
does it come up in my timeline? I'm not liking anything.
01:32:04
Steve-O
You know why? It's just Devin sending it to you.
01:32:05
Dick VanMeat
Bro.
01:32:06
DeeBo
Yeah, I i i have sent John a good amount of just like ridiculous.
01:32:10
Dick VanMeat
No, and there's yeah usually, like, I want to say, like, 65% of the time, the stuff that we send to each other, we already see in our respective timelines, you know?
01:32:17
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like I literally i went on i went on Twitter and I was just like Superman.
01:32:20
Dick VanMeat
So it's like, there's crosstalk there.
01:32:26
DeeBo
and then i just i let you know I just let God take the wheel.
01:32:30
Dick VanMeat
hes just like god and Oh my god.
01:32:30
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:32:30
DeeBo
And I was like, yeah, I was finding it.
01:32:30
Steve-O
but
01:32:34
Dick VanMeat
Dude, they're like fummeing they're fuming about it.
01:32:36
DeeBo
Dude, that one though, wait, you saw the one where they're like, this literally looks like a porn scene.
01:32:36
Dick VanMeat
like They're just...
01:32:40
DeeBo
That's a hard...
01:32:42
Dick VanMeat
Yeah,
01:32:44
DeeBo
it's that's that's a hard that's a hard hard one to go against because it really does look... I was like, oh, wow.
01:32:50
Dick VanMeat
but it's like you could take a screenshot from any movie and say that this looks like a porn scene.
01:32:51
werthersoriginal
ah
01:32:55
DeeBo
ah yeah Well, I mean, again, I'm just glad they stopped making fun of his wonky eyes because you're never going to find one, dude.
01:33:01
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, they have...
01:33:04
Dick VanMeat
Oh, man, dude. Fucking... Hey, buddy, eyes up here. Like, give me that. Give me more of that, dude. I love that shit.
01:33:08
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:33:09
werthersoriginal
i I like Lex too. I like everything he's saying in that narration. I like him referring to him as it. You know, all that stuff sounds like venomous.
01:33:17
Dick VanMeat
I love that... Oh, yeah, what about... Yeah, how do you feel about, like, Metamorpho making Kryptonite in that scene? In that one scene?
01:33:27
werthersoriginal
So he's probably enslaved a bunch of metahumans, right?
01:33:27
Dick VanMeat
Where they're like...
01:33:29
Dick VanMeat
Right. Right.
01:33:30
werthersoriginal
That's what looks like.
01:33:30
DeeBo
Yeah, or Lex is just like gaslighting them.
01:33:31
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:33:32
DeeBo
He's like, oh my god, you're you're actually the fucking best.
01:33:36
werthersoriginal
Yeah, yeah.
01:33:36
DeeBo
You're the best.
01:33:38
werthersoriginal
Better than him.
01:33:38
DeeBo
You gotta do this, because you're the fucking best.
01:33:40
Steve-O
You're best, man.
01:33:41
Dick VanMeat
He's... out Dude, he's... I'm not gonna lie. Again, I don't want to fucking... i don't want to glaze this as as more than it I'm going to when July 11th rolls around. But, like, he sounds like fucking all-star Superman Lex when he talks.
01:33:54
werthersoriginal
Mm-hmm.
01:33:55
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:33:57
Dick VanMeat
Like, I love that shit.
01:33:57
werthersoriginal
And I'm curious they're going to put in that scene where he gets Superman's powers.
01:34:01
Dick VanMeat
Chris, they're saying that they stole the fucking... They stole the Batman versus Superman plot for this movie, and it's driving me crazy, dude. it It's me insane.
01:34:10
werthersoriginal
Well, he gets arrested.
01:34:14
Dick VanMeat
Bro, come on.
01:34:15
werthersoriginal
My man Stoops gets arrested in both. That's enough for me.
01:34:18
DeeBo
Yeah. Oh, dude, the side by sides.
01:34:20
werthersoriginal
That's all I need.
01:34:22
DeeBo
I was living for that. I was like, yeah, right.
01:34:23
Dick VanMeat
ah Why? Why? So why don't they send... Why doesn't God send you these things in Twitter? Like, why do I get them?
01:34:31
DeeBo
I don't know.
01:34:31
Dick VanMeat
Is it because they know?
01:34:33
DeeBo
I mean.
01:34:34
werthersoriginal
They know you react more to it probably. like
01:34:36
Steve-O
ah
01:34:36
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah, it's just that. Yeah, it hears you. It just hears you screaming. Like, oh, son of a bitch.
01:34:42
Dick VanMeat
Man, I love...
01:34:45
Dick VanMeat
Man, I love that fucking...
01:34:46
werthersoriginal
don Don't waste your time with these inhumans.
01:34:46
Dick VanMeat
ah Dude, Rachel Brosnahan is like fucking... Like, ultra... Ultra... Instant Goku tier.
01:34:54
DeeBo
Yeah. Also, like, it it really is cool how um
01:34:55
Dick VanMeat
Lois, dude.
01:35:02
DeeBo
it's like Superman's just like, dude, you don't get it. He's like, it's, um you know, Superman has such a...
01:35:10
DeeBo
an idea of like, this is right.
01:35:11
werthersoriginal
I need to say.
01:35:13
DeeBo
It's not about, cause you know, in the interview, she's like, no, I would have like hold, held myself up in a room and like debated the consequences of my action. He's like, yeah, no, like people are going to die.
01:35:21
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. No, that's not it. No, and Ugh, dude.
01:35:24
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:35:25
Dick VanMeat
And like, the...
01:35:26
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah. And,
01:35:26
Dick VanMeat
and ah dude
01:35:29
DeeBo
And it's interesting because he can't...
01:35:29
Dick VanMeat
and the
01:35:30
DeeBo
Like, the thing that... And I'm not saying this is, like, in direct response to the Snyder movie, right? But it's, like, the question in that ah they at least attempt to ask is, like, what would the world...
01:35:44
DeeBo
How would the world react, right, to a Superman? And this is going... not deeper, but it's just like, this is to me a far more interesting question of just like, no, like you can't just go around stopping wars.
01:35:59
DeeBo
And he's like, no, I can, because this is right.
01:36:00
werthersoriginal
so So what you're saying, by that logic, Evan, the main character of those movies is the world, not Superman.
01:36:02
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:36:02
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:36:03
Dick VanMeat
He's like, no, I did.
01:36:10
werthersoriginal
Like, he's more focused on how the world reacts to Superman than making a movie about fucking Superman.
01:36:16
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah.
01:36:16
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:36:17
werthersoriginal
That's where it gets the gets all gummed up.
01:36:18
DeeBo
Yeah, because, like, listen, like, ah at they're at the risk of sounding, you know, like like I'm um making excuses, like, I don't think the Snyder take is completely without merit.
01:36:31
DeeBo
Like, it's it's not completely uninteresting.
01:36:34
Dick VanMeat
No, it is. It's complete. No, people were going to die. I'll scream at you like Superman screamed at Lois.
01:36:40
DeeBo
Yeah. Oh, no, he's a...
01:36:41
Dick VanMeat
How it is.
01:36:42
DeeBo
You know what? This Superman seems like he's he screams at his son for missing a ah fucking ah baseball.
01:36:43
werthersoriginal
Well, it does say
01:36:46
Dick VanMeat
Nah.
01:36:47
werthersoriginal
it's
01:36:47
Dick VanMeat
dude and it Dude, is it a is it a slight...
01:36:48
DeeBo
This guy screams out of the coach.
01:36:50
werthersoriginal
it's a pretty big condemnation when I'm saying, oh, I'm happy in the Superman trailer that Superman is happy and wants to save people.
01:36:57
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:36:58
Steve-O
Yeah, it's Superman is somebody yelling at a Snyder fan about Superman.
01:36:58
DeeBo
yeah
01:36:58
werthersoriginal
that's not That's pretty telling.
01:37:00
DeeBo
he He has really strong opinions about saving people.
01:37:05
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:37:05
DeeBo
Oh, that's perfect, dude.
01:37:05
Dick VanMeat
yeah like Yeah, they were...
01:37:06
DeeBo
Yeah, that's 100% it. Dude, Lois is fucking
01:37:10
Dick VanMeat
Dude, and then like the the whole like this the scene and dialogue with with ah with Pa Kent, too, is like a lot different from the Kevin Costner one.
01:37:12
DeeBo
that
01:37:22
Steve-O
yeah
01:37:22
Dick VanMeat
Where you...
01:37:23
DeeBo
Oh, where he's like, hey, Dad, I need support.
01:37:23
Dick VanMeat
No,
01:37:24
DeeBo
And he's like, hey, I want to tell you about the story where I drowned bones of horses.
01:37:28
Steve-O
but
01:37:28
Dick VanMeat
because there was...
01:37:28
DeeBo
And then I take...
01:37:29
werthersoriginal
He he he he he!
01:37:29
DeeBo
And you're like, what the fuck?
01:37:31
Steve-O
Holy shit, I forgot about that. my god.
01:37:33
DeeBo
That is a fucking miserable man.
01:37:34
Dick VanMeat
No, there was literally, yeah, there was that that part where where young Clark saved all those kids from drowning in the school bus and asks his dad, should I have let them die?
01:37:42
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:37:47
Dick VanMeat
And he says, maybe.
01:37:48
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:37:49
Dick VanMeat
Like, that that's literally what he said.
01:37:51
DeeBo
that That is...
01:37:51
Dick VanMeat
And then he runs into a fucking...
01:37:52
DeeBo
That guy, he was the most suicidal man I've ever seen in my life.
01:37:53
Dick VanMeat
so we're twenty No, but yeah but Devin, we don't get it. We're the ones that were the ones ah that are low IQ and didn't understand that.
01:38:00
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
01:38:00
werthersoriginal
Exactly.
01:38:01
Dick VanMeat
So...
01:38:02
werthersoriginal
Exactly.
01:38:04
Dick VanMeat
That's That's how it was.
01:38:05
DeeBo
Zack Snyder Lee. Exactly.
01:38:10
werthersoriginal
now
01:38:10
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:38:11
Dick VanMeat
Oh, yeah. What was the other one? Oh, the other one is like, oh why is he shielding his face from fire in this? It's just like, come on, dude.
01:38:17
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:38:18
werthersoriginal
I'm so happy the dark rain cloud has left this wonderful character. and
01:38:23
Dick VanMeat
No, but it's like a big, it's a bigger rain cloud now because now it's a bunch of people that think that they're fucking Superman fans.
01:38:27
werthersoriginal
Oh, don't put them! The movie's made. It's coming out. They ain't got nothing to do.
01:38:31
Steve-O
They lost.
01:38:32
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah.
01:38:32
Steve-O
They lose.
01:38:32
werthersoriginal
They lost. The movie already got made.
01:38:35
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, they're they're saying it's already projected to open and the weekend for like $300 million, which would be insane.
01:38:36
werthersoriginal
are they going to
01:38:43
werthersoriginal
That would be insane.
01:38:46
Dick VanMeat
What's the biggest opening?
01:38:46
werthersoriginal
That would
01:38:46
Dick VanMeat
was it
Guardians of the Galaxy Trilogy Praise
01:38:47
Dick VanMeat
Is it Endgame still? or No, it was like fucking Inside Out or some shit now, right?
01:38:49
werthersoriginal
be insane.
01:38:52
DeeBo
yeah
01:38:53
Dick VanMeat
What was it?
01:38:54
werthersoriginal
Inside Out 2, you mean?
01:38:56
Dick VanMeat
that was that was that Was that $300 million plus in the opening weekend?
01:38:59
werthersoriginal
I thought that big one, wasn't it? Wasn't that a big one?
01:39:01
DeeBo
Uh, yeah.
01:39:02
Dick VanMeat
Devin, go to your fucking website that you run.
01:39:04
werthersoriginal
Look it up!
01:39:04
DeeBo
Sorry, hold on.
01:39:05
Dick VanMeat
BoxOfficeMojo.
01:39:05
DeeBo
I was finding, I was finding a funny, yeah.
01:39:06
werthersoriginal
Number Whack!
01:39:07
Dick VanMeat
I mean, BoxOfficeHobo.com is Devin's site.
01:39:10
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:39:11
werthersoriginal
ah
01:39:14
Dick VanMeat
Oh, we should buy that domain, Steve. BoxOfficeHobo.
01:39:16
Steve-O
What's that? Box office?
01:39:18
DeeBo
Wait, wait, wait. It's like, what was the, what was the actual question? What made,
01:39:21
Dick VanMeat
um What was the biggest opening weekend ever?
01:39:24
DeeBo
so ever? Uh, duh, duh, duh.
01:39:27
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, wasn't it Inside Out 2?
01:39:32
DeeBo
It was...
01:39:34
werthersoriginal
The Passion the Christ.
01:39:36
DeeBo
Oh, God.
01:39:36
Dick VanMeat
That's Endgame, it says still.
01:39:37
DeeBo
You might be right.
01:39:39
Dick VanMeat
357, dude.
01:39:40
werthersoriginal
wow
01:39:43
Dick VanMeat
Dude, what? Yo, Devin, will you bow down? Will you remove two ribs so you can suck your own dick if if Superman beats Avengers Endgame opening weekend?
01:39:53
DeeBo
John, I would bet you a large sum money that it will not break that record.
01:40:00
Dick VanMeat
I mean, I don't think it will.
01:40:01
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
01:40:01
Dick VanMeat
But like I'm just saying, like would you be upset?
01:40:03
DeeBo
i yeah i know I wouldn't be upset.
01:40:03
Dick VanMeat
like would that with that would Would that piss you off?
01:40:07
DeeBo
I'd just be like, fucking what?
01:40:07
werthersoriginal
I'd be shocked. Yeah, I'd be absolutely dumb about
01:40:10
DeeBo
Could it be top 10?
01:40:11
Dick VanMeat
I mean, I would be shocked if it...
01:40:12
DeeBo
I don't know.
01:40:12
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, I would be shocked if it did. That would be insane.
01:40:14
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:40:15
Dick VanMeat
The gun the gun factor.
01:40:17
DeeBo
Dude, the gun factory?
01:40:18
Steve-O
The gun factory.
01:40:20
Dick VanMeat
Speaking which, the fact that you and Borden were saying that that fucking Thunderbolts might be better than Guardians 3 makes me want to slit your throats.
01:40:26
DeeBo
I didn't say that. I didn't say that.
01:40:28
werthersoriginal
it.
01:40:29
DeeBo
was bored.
01:40:29
werthersoriginal
no. No.
01:40:29
Dick VanMeat
Makes me want slit your fucking throats.
01:40:29
DeeBo
I'm sorry.
01:40:30
werthersoriginal
No.
01:40:31
Dick VanMeat
Because I watched like the first half of Guardians 3 again.
01:40:34
DeeBo
yeah the jordan The Jordanisms in your brain where you hear completely inaccurate things and they're like, can't fucking believe you said that.
01:40:35
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:40:39
werthersoriginal
He said that personally.
01:40:39
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:40:40
Dick VanMeat
and base I mean, just saying, dog.
01:40:41
werthersoriginal
He said that
01:40:43
DeeBo
was like, I never said anything close to that.
01:40:44
Dick VanMeat
Just saying, dog.
01:40:48
Dick VanMeat
Dude, that opening hits different like the second time around, knowing what happens in the movie is like crazy.
01:40:53
DeeBo
Yeah, dude.
01:40:56
Dick VanMeat
Avoid it. Avoid it.
01:40:57
DeeBo
As much as I really liked that movie, I really did struggle to see it again. i was like, I don't i don't know, man.
01:41:04
Steve-O
You got to make a statement, Devin, before this gets out of hand.
01:41:07
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:41:07
Dick VanMeat
Wait, is that the best trilogy ever?
01:41:10
DeeBo
ah them
01:41:10
Steve-O
Guardians?
01:41:10
Dick VanMeat
ah got Because John Wick doesn't count as a trilogy anymore.
01:41:14
DeeBo
Oh, like only three, huh?
01:41:15
Steve-O
Oh, hold on.
01:41:15
DeeBo
We only got three.
01:41:16
Dick VanMeat
yeah what Yeah, what's the best trilogy?
01:41:17
Steve-O
but Does Guardians count as a trilogy because of the holiday special?
01:41:21
DeeBo
Oh.
01:41:21
Dick VanMeat
Is the holiday special
Future Projects and Industry Banter
01:41:22
Steve-O
um
01:41:22
Dick VanMeat
movie that came out in the movies?
01:41:23
DeeBo
It's like a 45-minute movie. It's not like an hour and a half, but it's...
01:41:29
werthersoriginal
You talking about the one with Kevin Bacon?
01:41:29
Dick VanMeat
Best trilogy of all time.
01:41:31
DeeBo
Yeah, that one's big.
01:41:31
Dick VanMeat
Oh no, it's still Lord of the Rings.
01:41:31
Steve-O
Yeah, Kevin Baker won.
01:41:35
DeeBo
Oh, yeah.
01:41:35
Steve-O
Oh yeah, you got...
01:41:35
DeeBo
Yeah, never mind.
01:41:36
DeeBo
I'm sorry.
01:41:36
Dick VanMeat
Or the Cornetto trilogy.
01:41:38
Dick VanMeat
It's that too.
01:41:39
werthersoriginal
oh That's a good trilogy. then
01:41:44
DeeBo
Hehehehe.
01:41:45
Dick VanMeat
But Guardians gotta be up there, dude. Right?
01:41:47
werthersoriginal
gar
01:41:47
Steve-O
Guardians gotta be up there.
01:41:47
Dick VanMeat
Like, that that's three, like, fucking masterpiece movies.
01:41:48
werthersoriginal
is I mean, it's easily the best Marvel trilogy. There's not anything.
01:41:53
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:41:53
Dick VanMeat
mean, it's the best... Dude, is it the best Marvel product from MCU, you think? Standalone?
01:41:58
Steve-O
Most consistent.
01:42:00
werthersoriginal
Most consistent, definitely. Probably. yeah. yeah At least the one that crosses over the best, too, I think.
01:42:11
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. Yeah. now
01:42:15
werthersoriginal
Dog!
01:42:16
Steve-O
doug
01:42:17
werthersoriginal
Well, I can't be
01:42:18
Dick VanMeat
I was going to say Spider-Verse, but Spider-Verse 3 isn't coming out ever, I don't think. so
01:42:24
werthersoriginal
Yeah, that's never going to happen, is it?
01:42:25
Dick VanMeat
That's 2027, I think they said it's coming out. does it lose like what At what point does that lose all steam and it doesn't matter anymore?
01:42:33
DeeBo
oh
01:42:33
Steve-O
they
01:42:34
DeeBo
oh
01:42:34
Steve-O
They said they're working on that live action Nicolas Cage Spider Noir one.
01:42:36
DeeBo
ah
01:42:40
Dick VanMeat
ah The Spider-Man spiderman Noir?
01:42:41
DeeBo
yeah
01:42:42
Dick VanMeat
yeah
01:42:42
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
01:42:43
werthersoriginal
Yeah, I don't know. Did anybody really want that?
01:42:46
DeeBo
yeah that's the thing it was like that's I liked it in the movie I don't think I needed live action version
01:42:46
Dick VanMeat
I don't really care about that. don't really care. That's cool. That's cool. But I want... Yeah, I want... Yeah, I want Spider-Verse 3. That's what I want. Can we just... Can we just allocate all our resources to making sure that comes out?
01:43:02
Steve-O
It's kind of wild where ah live action show is something you do in the in-between of your Spider-Verse movies.
01:43:02
Dick VanMeat
and we Can we crunch all the artists more?
01:43:10
Dick VanMeat
i mean, I don't even know if I'm going to watch it. I'd rather watch the Nicolas Cage-John Madden project that's coming out.
01:43:16
Steve-O
I saw that and that blew my mind.
01:43:16
DeeBo
dude, right? That's pretty cool.
01:43:20
Dick VanMeat
It looks sick. It looks sick, dude.
01:43:21
DeeBo
Again, i was like, i was like, I don't know if this is terrible or great looking. I can't quite.
01:43:25
werthersoriginal
yeah they're going to get into the fact that John Madden never flew anywhere. He always rode a bus because he hated flying. That's going to be funny. Nicholas K. freaking out on a plane. no, no!
01:43:35
DeeBo
Oh,
01:43:37
DeeBo
well ah
01:43:37
werthersoriginal
Yelling like John Madden.
01:43:40
DeeBo
I just hope it's just two hours of him just saying shit in the video game. this going to be a hit? I don't think it's going to be
01:43:47
Steve-O
They have John Mulaney, right?
01:43:47
werthersoriginal
John Wayne.
01:43:48
DeeBo
and
01:43:49
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:43:49
werthersoriginal
He will play Electronic Arts founder Trip Hawkins. Oh, that's going to be it.
01:43:53
DeeBo
a hit.
01:43:54
werthersoriginal
That's going to be fun.
01:43:56
DeeBo
Yeah, no, i um I'm down. I'm down. Let's see. What else was there? Oh, ah good news. ah This is not good news.
01:44:03
werthersoriginal
Good news.
01:44:04
DeeBo
ah Another video game got delayed. Rise of Hydra. The Captain America Black Panther game.
01:44:12
Steve-O
Oh, the one that took place in like World War Two, right?
01:44:14
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:44:14
Dick VanMeat
i thought i thought we were done with delaying games since GTA is not coming out until next year. thought that's what the consensus was.
01:44:19
DeeBo
Apparently Marvel's like, no, we want the smoke. We want the smoke.
01:44:22
Dick VanMeat
Dang.
01:44:24
DeeBo
Let's go. Okay.
01:44:25
Steve-O
They didn't get the memo.
01:44:26
DeeBo
Uh, the Ironheart trailer came out. Uh, boy, oh boy. You would have guessed Ryan Coogler directed this because his name's like all over the place on this thing. ah
01:44:39
DeeBo
I don't know. It looks okay. I like Red Hood. I am a Red Hood stan. I love Parker Robbins. I did not like Ironheart, the character in the comics.
01:44:52
DeeBo
And I did not think she was remotely interesting in the Wakanda movie.
01:44:53
Dick VanMeat
Racist.
01:44:57
werthersoriginal
Hungry.
01:44:58
Dick VanMeat
Well, maybe you're racist, Evan.
01:44:59
DeeBo
Yeah, maybe.
01:44:59
Dick VanMeat
Maybe that's what it is.
01:45:00
DeeBo
You know what? I looked it up.
01:45:02
Dick VanMeat
You know what?
01:45:02
DeeBo
Allegedly. Allegedly.
01:45:04
Dick VanMeat
I'm proud of it.
01:45:05
DeeBo
Yeah. Allegedly. Yeah.
01:45:08
Dick VanMeat
ah
01:45:09
DeeBo
ah My Hawk's going to be in the new Hunger Games movies.
01:45:13
werthersoriginal
hungry
01:45:14
Dick VanMeat
Hell yeah.
01:45:14
werthersoriginal
agree
01:45:14
DeeBo
Hunger Games 3, I'm going to tell you this.
01:45:15
Dick VanMeat
I'm hungry for Hulk.
01:45:15
Steve-O
Hungry Games.
01:45:17
Dick VanMeat
Hungry for Hulk.
01:45:18
DeeBo
I will tell you this. I think Hunger Games is one of those series where I'm like, don't think there's like a truly bad Hunger Games. They're all pretty.
01:45:28
Dick VanMeat
dude that lot Dude, that last one was was pretty was pretty pretty good, right?
01:45:30
DeeBo
The last one was good, dude. Yeah. Yeah.
01:45:33
Dick VanMeat
Rachel Zegler be damned.
01:45:35
Steve-O
Is the tooch in it still?
01:45:35
Dick VanMeat
That was pretty good.
01:45:36
Steve-O
They still got the tooch?
01:45:38
DeeBo
ah No, I think this is about...
01:45:40
Dick VanMeat
No, the ah dude, they're they they casting fucking... What's his name?
01:45:43
DeeBo
It's about Woody Harrelson's character, winning the game.
01:45:43
werthersoriginal
You wanted too much pasta.
01:45:45
Dick VanMeat
No, the guy that the guy that plays young PSH.
01:45:49
DeeBo
Oh.
01:45:49
Dick VanMeat
They're casting that character. It's fucking... um What's his name? Fucking... Fat Todd. What the fuck is Fat Todd?
01:45:56
DeeBo
That... yeah
01:45:58
Dick VanMeat
What is his real name?
01:45:59
werthersoriginal
Oh, it's Meth Dillon.
01:46:01
DeeBo
No!
01:46:03
Dick VanMeat
Jesse, uh, what's his name?
01:46:03
werthersoriginal
that Jesse Clemens?
01:46:04
DeeBo
Jesse Flemons? No!
01:46:04
Steve-O
Let's see, Plemons.
01:46:05
Dick VanMeat
Jesse Plemets, that's it.
01:46:05
werthersoriginal
Clemens.
01:46:06
DeeBo
Fat Todd, dude.
01:46:08
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, they're casting Fat Todd as, uh, young PSH.
01:46:10
DeeBo
ah Ugh.
01:46:12
Steve-O
It's funny because he also just played Todd.
01:46:15
DeeBo
Yeah, I think his name's Todd, John.
01:46:18
Steve-O
ah
01:46:19
DeeBo
You monster.
01:46:19
Steve-O
But he's he's better known as Fat Todd.
01:46:21
Dick VanMeat
It's not Fat Todd.
01:46:22
werthersoriginal
Yeah, that's what everybody does.
01:46:23
Dick VanMeat
Well, because he was Fat Todd in fucking, and el in El Camino.
01:46:26
Steve-O
And El Camino.
01:46:26
Dick VanMeat
and
01:46:27
Steve-O
I'm just kidding.
01:46:27
Dick VanMeat
elcamino
01:46:28
DeeBo
Use
01:46:29
werthersoriginal
To be honest, he was kind of fat Todd in Civil War, too.
01:46:32
DeeBo
Fat Todd for a minute, and then he he decided to lose him.
01:46:35
Dick VanMeat
Dude, look at these recent searches.
01:46:35
werthersoriginal
What kind of American are you?
01:46:36
Dick VanMeat
I just typed in Fat Todd. I just typed it in. And then the related searches on Google is, why is Todd fat in El Camino Reddit?
01:46:48
DeeBo
yeah I think he's like yeah yeah and apparently according to him he's like oh I just cut out gluten he's like I didn't go on Ozempic I just cut down on bread
01:46:48
werthersoriginal
He's only Justin
01:46:48
Steve-O
They should have explained it.
01:46:49
Dick VanMeat
You know, good for him, though. He fucking, dude, he bagged, he bagged, he bagged a fucking Kirsten Dunst.
01:46:50
werthersoriginal
You know why? Because all he does is see beans all day.
01:46:55
Dick VanMeat
So he's, he's, he's living in it, dude.
01:46:57
werthersoriginal
Yeah, I'll do it.
01:46:58
Dick VanMeat
He's got
01:47:07
DeeBo
And I'm like, okay, sure.
01:47:08
werthersoriginal
No carbs.
01:47:09
Dick VanMeat
Oh, so he's legit. He's, yeah.
01:47:10
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:47:11
werthersoriginal
Smart move, man.
01:47:11
DeeBo
I hope i hope i hope you did, buddy.
01:47:13
Dick VanMeat
Fucking Fat Todd.
01:47:13
DeeBo
I hope you did.
01:47:14
Steve-O
He ate crazy bread for every meal.
01:47:15
DeeBo
Dude.
01:47:18
werthersoriginal
Ooh, what?
01:47:19
DeeBo
Yeah, because I think he said he basically...
01:47:19
Dick VanMeat
Yo, Fat Todd's a pretty good gamer tag.
01:47:21
werthersoriginal
um So did I for 20 years.
01:47:21
Dick VanMeat
It's pretty good gamer tag.
01:47:23
Steve-O
ah
01:47:24
DeeBo
I think he said... I think he said he, like, got heavy for, like, a roll, and then he's like, nobody just told me to lose weight, so I just stayed like this because it's a lot easier for me.
01:47:36
Steve-O
They didn't give him the cubes.
01:47:38
DeeBo
Yeah, they can give them those weird gelatin cubes.
01:47:42
werthersoriginal
but What the fuck are you talking about? What's the gelatin cube?
01:47:44
DeeBo
Oh my God.
01:47:44
Steve-O
I forget that. Who's the community?
01:47:46
DeeBo
It's like Paul F. Tompkins. he
01:47:48
Steve-O
Yes, that's it.
01:47:48
DeeBo
he was doing the movie yeah He was doing a movie with Matt Damon. And like yeah he's just like, you know, he's like a background character. But he's like, jury in between shots, somebody shows up and just starts feeding Matt Damon weird gelatin cubes.
01:48:06
DeeBo
And no one reacts like this is the weirdest thing they've ever seen. and he's like, is Matt Damon an alien? Like, what is happening? And then later, somebody he like told this story.
01:48:17
DeeBo
And somebody's like, oh, he's like, blah, blah, blah.
01:48:20
Steve-O
it was tom arnold tom arnold in the audience was like i know what those cubes are
01:48:21
DeeBo
He's like...
01:48:25
DeeBo
Yeah, he he he explains like these cubes are basically like what actors do to like lose a bunch of weight real quick for another movie that they're doing.
01:48:26
Dick VanMeat
Mm-hmm.
01:48:34
DeeBo
he's shooting a movie and he's just slurping on weird gelatin cubes.
01:48:34
werthersoriginal
What
01:48:39
DeeBo
And he's like, everybody has to act like this isn't a really fucking weird thing to see.
01:48:46
DeeBo
Speaking of weird cubes, ah guys, HBO's back.
01:48:50
werthersoriginal
Hey HBO Max!
01:48:52
Dick VanMeat
did yeah
01:48:52
DeeBo
that You know that thing we always called it? Well, it's particularly it's officially that thing again.
01:48:55
Dick VanMeat
Max.
01:48:56
werthersoriginal
You know what's funny? Somebody said this is the biggest indicator of a recession of anything else.
01:49:02
Dick VanMeat
What? That they're that they changing their name back?
01:49:03
werthersoriginal
they kate They caved. They changed it back.
01:49:05
Steve-O
They caved.
01:49:07
Dick VanMeat
That's awesome.
01:49:08
DeeBo
Dude, that guy, that Zaslav, dude, he's a fucking moron.
01:49:10
Dick VanMeat
I'm
01:49:11
werthersoriginal
isn't He's a genius.
01:49:15
werthersoriginal
He's a genius, Devin.
01:49:16
DeeBo
I don't know what is the, I hate, do you understand? I hate that that guy has like $200 million. dollars I hate that man.
01:49:24
werthersoriginal
Yep. It's something, isn't it?
01:49:27
DeeBo
Like, how do you, how are you this shitty and you deserve that much money?
01:49:32
werthersoriginal
Because that's all he cares about.
01:49:33
DeeBo
You deserve financial stability for you and like your grandchildren. You fucking idiot.
01:49:40
werthersoriginal
And he's just going to keep making dumber decisions, too.
01:49:42
DeeBo
Yeah, and he's goingnna he's just going to fail upwards or golden parachute or or just run it into the ground to the point where they sell it and then he still gets a piece and then just like, oh, you fucking moron.
01:49:43
werthersoriginal
It's fascinating to watch.
01:49:54
DeeBo
I really, really despise that guy.
01:49:58
werthersoriginal
Yeah, he sucks, doesn't he?
01:49:59
DeeBo
Probably on a personal level.
01:49:59
werthersoriginal
I agree, David.
01:50:00
DeeBo
like It's just, we're there.
Celebrity Discussions and Humorous Observations
01:50:02
werthersoriginal
Well, that was Bryan Cranston's character on the studio, and he nailed it. That was pretty perfect.
01:50:08
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:50:11
werthersoriginal
Like, apparently that was based off of him.
01:50:14
DeeBo
Yeah, that guy fucking stinks, dude.
01:50:17
werthersoriginal
He sure
01:50:18
DeeBo
I don't really, I really just like, i don't know. Maybe i'll I'll meet him one day.
01:50:21
werthersoriginal
does. There's nothing else to You're right.
01:50:24
DeeBo
Yeah, no, maybe I'll meet him one day in the stream.
01:50:24
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
01:50:25
DeeBo
It'll be really polite to me. And like, I'll change my mind. But shit, dude, I don't think so.
01:50:30
werthersoriginal
Yeah, but he he's wearing an ascot when he's talking to you.
01:50:33
DeeBo
Oh, dude.
01:50:34
Steve-O
the Ascot, though.
01:50:35
werthersoriginal
He has one of those that I want to punch him in his mouth.
01:50:36
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
01:50:39
Steve-O
Dude, second ah worst rebrand of all time.
01:50:44
DeeBo
What's the first?
01:50:44
werthersoriginal
ah What's the first?
01:50:46
Steve-O
Twitter to X. You...
01:50:47
werthersoriginal
Oh, yeah, the king, the king.
01:50:48
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:50:50
werthersoriginal
Excuse me.
01:50:51
DeeBo
No, that's fair. That's fair.
01:50:53
werthersoriginal
The king.
01:50:55
DeeBo
Listen, guys, there's hope for all low-rise jeans, wears everywhere, because Kristen Ritter's coming back as Jessica Jones in the new season Vanderbilt.
01:50:55
Dick VanMeat
yeah
01:51:06
werthersoriginal
We need those to come back to now.
01:51:06
DeeBo
I like those jeans.
01:51:08
werthersoriginal
We need those now, you know.
01:51:09
DeeBo
Not to sound like a creep, but I like those jeans.
01:51:13
werthersoriginal
it was really helpful though.
01:51:13
Steve-O
You think this means we're going to get Purple Man back?
01:51:16
Steve-O
We're going to get David Tennant back?
01:51:17
DeeBo
No, he's dead.
01:51:18
werthersoriginal
Somebody wants yourself purple, man, you come back, doesn't he?
01:51:20
Dick VanMeat
No Luke Cage, though? and There's no Luke Cage?
01:51:22
Steve-O
fucked up. That's fucked up, Chris.
01:51:24
DeeBo
Nah, I think Marvel's racist. Allegedly. I don't know.
01:51:31
Dick VanMeat
Well, you saw the thing about ah about um Jeremy Renner, right? How they offered him half to do the next season of Hawkeye.
01:51:36
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:51:37
werthersoriginal
Because he got run over, John.
01:51:38
Dick VanMeat
And he's like, what the fuck?
01:51:39
werthersoriginal
He's
01:51:39
DeeBo
Because he got run over and they were like...
01:51:40
Dick VanMeat
It's pretty fucked. I think that's pretty disrespectful, dude.
01:51:43
DeeBo
Nah, it's pretty bad.
01:51:43
werthersoriginal
half a man.
01:51:44
DeeBo
It's pretty insulting.
01:51:45
werthersoriginal
lost a leg to me.
01:51:45
Dick VanMeat
Because he's literally Hawkeye. Like, he's the character.
01:51:49
DeeBo
Yeah, I guess because they were like, well, obviously, like, you won't be doing any physical stuff.
01:51:50
Dick VanMeat
Like, he's the guy that
01:51:56
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:51:57
DeeBo
But that's kind of not how that shit works.
01:51:57
Dick VanMeat
Would he even have... wouldn't he yeah wouldn't he... It's not like he's Tom Cruise. He's not doing his own stunts, right?
01:52:02
DeeBo
Yeah, I guess they're like, listen, man, we'll have to put that camera overhead a lot, buddy. You need to do anything but sit down. i don't know. don't know, man.
01:52:13
werthersoriginal
Run over by...
01:52:14
DeeBo
I watched i watched like one of the three trillion interviews he did about getting run over by a snowplow. And he's like, weirdly, my spine's fine. He's like, this is everything else that fucking broke.
01:52:25
DeeBo
Oh.
01:52:26
werthersoriginal
You know, happened to a dog that I had. Buddy ran under a a snowmobile tire.
01:52:35
Steve-O
jesus
01:52:35
DeeBo
oh
01:52:36
werthersoriginal
Caught out under it. But the thing is, they're like made of this weird plastic, and it's not sharp. So they it just spit them out. into a big drift of snow, and he shat himself.
01:52:48
DeeBo
and That was it? He was fine?
01:52:49
werthersoriginal
And he's fine. He just ran up to us.
01:52:50
Steve-O
It just like compresses the poop out of you, guess.
01:52:53
werthersoriginal
He got so scared. He was like sitting by me.
01:52:56
DeeBo
Yeah, that's pretty scary, dude.
01:52:58
Steve-O
So that's probably what happened to Jeremy Renner.
01:52:58
werthersoriginal
Terrified. He ran out underneath the snowmobile that his neighbor was tired of.
01:53:03
DeeBo
What if he just refused to admit that he pooped himself? No, no, that's ridiculous.
01:53:07
werthersoriginal
yeah
01:53:08
Steve-O
Jeremy, that's okay. You can admit that you pooped yourself in that moment.
01:53:10
DeeBo
Your body probably just went everything left.
01:53:13
werthersoriginal
Nobody's judging you. i would do the same.
01:53:15
werthersoriginal
just come down
01:53:15
DeeBo
I...
01:53:16
DeeBo
Are you fucking... How fucking dare you? He just gets up.
01:53:20
Steve-O
Jeremy, that's... Come on.
01:53:22
DeeBo
Rips his slab off.
01:53:23
Steve-O
I imagine the doctor is like, uh-oh, somebody made boom-boom.
01:53:28
werthersoriginal
yeah
01:53:29
DeeBo
Oh, did somebody... Did somebody trip it for?
01:53:32
Steve-O
Fix my fucking face.
01:53:34
DeeBo
My eyeball's hanging out of my head.
01:53:36
werthersoriginal
Oh, God.
01:53:36
DeeBo
Somebody took little spiel.
01:53:36
Steve-O
Uh-oh, get a diaper.
01:53:40
DeeBo
Somebody had boom, boom, spiel. Oh, boy.
01:53:42
werthersoriginal
Poor Haw.
01:53:42
Steve-O
Allegedly did a bum bum.
01:53:44
DeeBo
It allegedly had boom-booms. Okay, anyway. ah Hey, guys. Fallout Season 3 gets ah already renewed.
01:53:54
werthersoriginal
Boom.
01:53:54
Steve-O
We don't even have two yet.
01:53:55
werthersoriginal
Easy.
01:53:55
DeeBo
Right now.
01:53:56
Steve-O
It's coming out December, they said, I think.
01:53:56
werthersoriginal
Easy.
01:53:58
DeeBo
I think they wrapped like a week or two ago, like principal photography.
01:54:02
werthersoriginal
Awesome.
01:54:03
Steve-O
So on no, Fallout season two.
01:54:03
Dick VanMeat
Well, Born Again Season 2?
01:54:04
DeeBo
No, no. Fallout Season 3.
01:54:06
Dick VanMeat
Oh, Fallout Season 2. Oh, I thought they were done. It's coming out soon.
01:54:10
Steve-O
Coming out. Yeah. Later this year.
01:54:12
DeeBo
yeah I don't know, soon, soon, but they they finished like filming officially, so now they got to do all the other stuff.
01:54:15
werthersoriginal
Get on here.
01:54:18
Steve-O
Fallout season two release October 29th, 1998. You fucking idiot, Steve. You to look up the show.
01:54:24
DeeBo
and
01:54:26
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:54:27
werthersoriginal
Nice.
01:54:28
Dick VanMeat
When does Fallout 1 come out, Google?
01:54:28
werthersoriginal
Nice.
01:54:30
DeeBo
o
01:54:30
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:54:32
Dick VanMeat
Oh...
01:54:32
Steve-O
December 2025. December.
01:54:33
DeeBo
Co-pilot, please answer my question.
01:54:35
werthersoriginal
Okay, Christmas.
01:54:35
Dick VanMeat
Damn, December?
01:54:37
werthersoriginal
Christmas.
01:54:37
Steve-O
december
01:54:38
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:54:39
werthersoriginal
You want
01:54:40
DeeBo
All right. Is this a good idea is this a weird idea? Kojima announced that he has a USB stick of game ideas for studio to use after he dies.
01:54:50
DeeBo
Only after I die.
01:54:50
werthersoriginal
to steal it?
01:54:50
Steve-O
That's just what the Coen... That's what the Coen brothers do.
01:54:53
Dick VanMeat
That's awesome. No, I think that's pretty... That's a pretty... Psycho flex. He probably doesn't have that shit. He's just...
01:55:00
Steve-O
when he dies...
01:55:01
Dick VanMeat
Nah, dude, that's a Psycho Flex. Psycho Mantis flex, dude.
01:55:02
Steve-O
people are People are going to go through this and be like, he gets free he just wrote Mario in here.
01:55:06
DeeBo
of
01:55:06
Dick VanMeat
Kojima's just fucking...
01:55:08
DeeBo
yeah
01:55:09
werthersoriginal
A tomato that thinks it's an eggplant?
01:55:10
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
01:55:12
werthersoriginal
What the fuck is this?
01:55:13
Dick VanMeat
Dude, Kojima's a fucking troll, dude. na i think i mean I love that shit. And I know it's not real.
01:55:19
Steve-O
USB stick a game ideas.
01:55:20
Dick VanMeat
But I hope he's telling people that.
01:55:20
DeeBo
ah Yeah.
01:55:21
werthersoriginal
I think we should try to steal it.
01:55:22
DeeBo
mean Yeah.
01:55:24
werthersoriginal
I think we should all kind of figure out a plan to steal it off of him.
01:55:27
Dick VanMeat
Well, did you see that concept that he had and that came out recently?
01:55:28
Steve-O
Send it to Bungie.
01:55:30
werthersoriginal
find the
01:55:31
DeeBo
ah No.
01:55:32
Dick VanMeat
ah He had an idea for a game where
01:55:35
DeeBo
oh
01:55:36
Dick VanMeat
Like, if you don't play it continuously or something, then you're you lose skills and abilities and memories and shit.
01:55:36
DeeBo
yeah.
01:55:39
DeeBo
You lose skills and stuff, right?
01:55:43
werthersoriginal
Oh, he's getting mean.
01:55:43
Dick VanMeat
So, like...
01:55:44
werthersoriginal
He's getting mean now.
01:55:46
DeeBo
Yeah. It was, yeah, it was like something ridiculous.
01:55:48
Dick VanMeat
It's interesting.
01:55:49
DeeBo
Like, oh, if you don't play for like a week, like you, you, you basically lose experience.
01:55:53
Dick VanMeat
He did Boktai, right? That's his that's his thing?
01:55:55
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah.
01:55:56
Steve-O
He did do Boktai.
01:55:56
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:55:56
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, he's a fucking...
01:55:57
werthersoriginal
I want him to write me a letter when I'm not playing his game where he writes you a personal letter in, you know, handwritten and says, you should come back.
01:55:57
Dick VanMeat
He's a psycho. He's a psycho, man.
01:56:00
DeeBo
That is, you want to play. Yeah.
01:56:09
werthersoriginal
You should play my game again. That's what he should do. That would blow my mind.
01:56:13
Steve-O
To you!
01:56:13
Dick VanMeat
He's got a fucking USB drive.
01:56:14
werthersoriginal
Yeah, it's me
01:56:16
DeeBo
i think I think that USB drives, it's like a comedian.
01:56:16
Dick VanMeat
It's like crypto. That's crypto. that's game dev That's game dev crypto. It's just on a hard drive somewhere. Stick it in the stick of butter when the police raid your house.
01:56:25
Steve-O
I mean, he did just announce his next game five or six years away called Sysint?
01:56:26
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:56:27
werthersoriginal
me.
01:56:33
Steve-O
Sysint?
01:56:35
DeeBo
Yeah, why not, right?
01:56:35
werthersoriginal
Strengthened?
01:56:36
DeeBo
Why not?
01:56:36
werthersoriginal
in
01:56:36
Steve-O
Fysint?
01:56:36
werthersoriginal
In strength?
01:56:37
Dick VanMeat
Wait, when is the when does the screaming game come out?
01:56:37
Steve-O
I don't know how to fucking say it.
01:56:41
DeeBo
Dude, who knows, man.
01:56:43
Dick VanMeat
but OD. When does OD come out? does that come out?
01:56:45
DeeBo
I don't think it's... we I don't think they've...
01:56:47
werthersoriginal
o d
01:56:48
DeeBo
He has not even remotely said when. Because Death Stranding, please not until next year, right?
01:56:51
werthersoriginal
Got Best Stranding 2.
01:56:54
werthersoriginal
That's coming.
01:56:55
Dick VanMeat
No, that's this year, isn't it?
01:56:55
Steve-O
That's this year.
01:56:55
DeeBo
Oh, is it?
01:56:56
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:56:56
DeeBo
Oh, that's right. I got fucked last year all night. um
01:57:00
Steve-O
You're living in the past.
01:57:01
DeeBo
Yeah, it was...
01:57:01
Dick VanMeat
OD?
01:57:02
DeeBo
Oh, dude?
01:57:03
Dick VanMeat
Oh, wait. Dude, Xbox Game Studios might not even be around by the time OD comes out.
01:57:07
DeeBo
I was going to say, what are you talking about, my guy?
01:57:08
Dick VanMeat
Ha ha ha ha ha.
01:57:11
werthersoriginal
Where's he going to go
01:57:13
Steve-O
No, he'll be around.
01:57:13
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:57:13
Dick VanMeat
back
01:57:13
DeeBo
Poor Kojima. Will he ever find work?
01:57:15
Dick VanMeat
back to Yeah, yeah, he'll never, nobody will ever pick him up, ever.
01:57:16
werthersoriginal
Where's he going to go?
01:57:17
Steve-O
He's just gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna post more pictures of him just standing next to celebrities on Instagram.
01:57:24
werthersoriginal
and then And then his reviews. Don't forget about his movie reviews.
01:57:28
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:57:28
Steve-O
Oh my god.
01:57:28
DeeBo
I saw this. I saw Final Destination.
01:57:29
Dick VanMeat
No, I love his movie reviews. ah love his, yeah, when he just says, when he just says he saw it, that means he hated the movie.
01:57:33
DeeBo
Cool.
01:57:33
werthersoriginal
um Yeah, the best.
01:57:33
Steve-O
What was... Where... Yeah.
01:57:36
DeeBo
Yeah, I mean.
01:57:37
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:57:38
werthersoriginal
ah Those the best ones.
01:57:43
DeeBo
Oh, man.
01:57:44
werthersoriginal
I saw Rebel Moon.
01:57:46
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:57:47
werthersoriginal
yeah
01:57:47
Steve-O
yeah
01:57:48
DeeBo
Okay. All right. Oh, by the way, Rebel Moon, guys. Sorry, Chris, I know you're really upset. Officially dead.
01:57:55
Dick VanMeat
Oh, it's dead.
01:57:55
DeeBo
Rebel Moon franchise.
01:57:56
werthersoriginal
Wait, it was still alive? Wait, I thought they made the movies and
01:57:58
DeeBo
Well, I mean...
01:57:59
Dick VanMeat
Wait, there's no sequel? I thought there there's ah there's no sequel coming out?
01:58:03
DeeBo
No, apparently it was pseudo-planned, and Netflix is like, no, we're going to pass on this.
01:58:04
Dick VanMeat
Damn.
01:58:09
werthersoriginal
Nice, Netflix. Good work.
01:58:11
DeeBo
This is a bad idea
01:58:11
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, they're like, we're gonna pass and we're gonna pick up Sesame Street instead.
Movie Reception and Crime Movie Debate
01:58:14
Dick VanMeat
Fuck you.
01:58:14
werthersoriginal
Make these fucking fat little kids pay for this shit now.
01:58:18
DeeBo
idea.
01:58:19
Steve-O
Wow, I'm going through some of these reviews. Damn, man.
01:58:22
DeeBo
For what?
01:58:23
Steve-O
Just Kojima.
01:58:23
Dick VanMeat
Oh, and his movie reviews?
01:58:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:58:24
DeeBo
Oh, Kojima reviews. i was like...
01:58:26
Dick VanMeat
any and Any interesting ones that stand out?
01:58:29
Steve-O
um Well, the one thing is, it's like, yeah, when he just gives you a single line. But like.
01:58:35
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, that means he doesn't like it, yeah.
01:58:36
werthersoriginal
Pretty damning.
01:58:36
Steve-O
It did he. He did not like Black Panther.
01:58:40
Dick VanMeat
He liked Madame Web.
01:58:41
DeeBo
Whoa, dude.
01:58:43
Steve-O
Now he gave Adam Webb the one line or two, it looks like.
01:58:45
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, it saw Madame Web at the theater.
01:58:46
DeeBo
So, Madam Web and Black Panther are on the same Kojima tier level.
01:58:47
Steve-O
and at the theater.
01:58:51
DeeBo
all right
01:58:52
Dick VanMeat
Went to see Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.
01:58:56
werthersoriginal
Yeah.
01:58:56
Dick VanMeat
And that's it.
01:58:56
DeeBo
All right.
01:58:57
werthersoriginal
That's what I would say, too.
01:58:57
DeeBo
Okay, that checks out.
01:58:58
Steve-O
that's completely understandable. The fact that he even said the full name and didn't just say Saw Indiana Jones.
01:59:00
DeeBo
That checks out. That's making his Black Panther tweet come out bad, though, man.
01:59:03
Dick VanMeat
and a
01:59:08
DeeBo
Yo, uh...
01:59:09
Dick VanMeat
Watch the Super Mario Bros. movie at IMAX 3D theater.
01:59:14
Steve-O
At least showing respect for IMAX. Really appreciating the
01:59:17
Dick VanMeat
Saw Captain Marvel. That's it. Three letters.
01:59:19
Steve-O
Saw Captain Marvel.
01:59:20
Dick VanMeat
that three letters all man.
01:59:22
DeeBo
yeah
01:59:22
werthersoriginal
Yikes.
01:59:23
DeeBo
Yikes, dude. ah
01:59:25
Dick VanMeat
Man, where are the good ones?
01:59:28
DeeBo
What do you mean? Oh, the one where he's like, oh.
01:59:30
Dick VanMeat
Like, the the good ones.
01:59:30
DeeBo
Is that about sinners? Did he see sinners, dude?
01:59:35
Steve-O
Did he do a Sinner's review?
01:59:36
DeeBo
don't know.
01:59:37
Dick VanMeat
Dude, I thought he was glazing sinners.
01:59:37
DeeBo
Everybody. that's Tom Cruise.
01:59:40
Dick VanMeat
Kojima sinners.
01:59:40
werthersoriginal
He's going to love it He's going to love Sinners.
01:59:43
DeeBo
Yeah.
01:59:44
werthersoriginal
I know.
01:59:44
DeeBo
How do you make him a twin?
01:59:44
werthersoriginal
i know.
01:59:47
Steve-O
I know Kojima.
01:59:47
Dick VanMeat
Oh, people are waiting.
01:59:48
DeeBo
Before Kojima doesn't grasp the fundamentals.
01:59:48
Dick VanMeat
People are waiting.
01:59:49
werthersoriginal
and I've seen his Criterion closet episode. I know what he likes.
01:59:53
DeeBo
ah boy
01:59:56
Dick VanMeat
Oh, dude, you hearing anything good about Eddington? Because they premiered it at Cannes, I think.
02:00:01
werthersoriginal
The term that I hear the most, divisive.
02:00:04
Dick VanMeat
Oh, I mean, duh.
02:00:07
DeeBo
I know, i guess...
02:00:07
werthersoriginal
It is...
02:00:08
Dick VanMeat
Grass is green, Chris. Did you know that?
02:00:10
werthersoriginal
And Emma Stone pulls another one. She's got another one in there. She's going to nominated.
02:00:16
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, yeah. Wasn't there some... Damn. Some Cans movie. You know what really irks me, though? Like, this is peak snob, and we gotta to do something about it.
02:00:28
DeeBo
Is, like... when every movie at Cannes that gets shown is just gauged by the amount of applause it gets.
02:00:36
werthersoriginal
Well, that's dumb. It's always been dumb.
02:00:38
DeeBo
They're like, this one got nine and a half minutes. This one got six minutes.
02:00:41
werthersoriginal
ah Well, actually,
02:00:42
Dick VanMeat
Brendan brendon Fraser got a standing ovation.
02:00:45
DeeBo
Yeah, like, dude.
02:00:46
werthersoriginal
Eddington had something very different happen where people walked out of it.
02:00:50
DeeBo
Of course. Oh, the I mean, that's.
02:00:51
Dick VanMeat
I mean, that that's every Ari Aster movie, though.
02:00:54
werthersoriginal
Yeah, pretty much.
02:00:55
DeeBo
Yeah.
02:00:55
Dick VanMeat
Like, every single one.
02:00:55
DeeBo
But like.
02:00:57
werthersoriginal
ah
02:00:57
DeeBo
Can you imagine how fucking awkward I would feel if...
02:01:01
Dick VanMeat
What, people walked out of your movie?
02:01:02
DeeBo
No, no, if I had to stand there for seven minutes while people applaud me, would want to die, dude.
02:01:08
werthersoriginal
It's kind of weird. Yeah.
02:01:10
DeeBo
Also, that then again, Chris, I also heard that Eddington got a standing ovation that moved Joaquin Phoenix to tears.
02:01:15
werthersoriginal
Of course. Of course it did.
02:01:17
DeeBo
So...
02:01:18
werthersoriginal
Every fucking movie does. Yeah.
02:01:20
DeeBo
and know, that's the thing. We got figure it something else out. We do.
02:01:24
werthersoriginal
So nothing was learned.
02:01:25
DeeBo
i can I can't, I can't. Yeah, nothing was larying. I just heard there's going to be some good... ah guys, there's some good movies that showed up at Cannes.
02:01:32
werthersoriginal
but like what I What I did hear too about Eddington is there is no supernatural element to it. It is very much grounded.
02:01:40
DeeBo
It's just like...
02:01:40
Dick VanMeat
there's no There's no giant penis and balls and addicts that we're going to see?
02:01:41
werthersoriginal
No giant penis balls.
02:01:41
DeeBo
It's it's just like ah it's just about
02:01:45
werthersoriginal
No evil cults.
02:01:46
Dick VanMeat
Damn it, Chris!
02:01:47
werthersoriginal
No demons. No drugs.
02:01:51
DeeBo
covid right
02:01:52
Dick VanMeat
du the fact Dude, the fact that this has fucking Pedro Pascal and Joaquin Phoenix as the two main roles is like enticing enough for me. In an Ari Aster movie.
02:02:00
DeeBo
Yeah.
02:02:01
werthersoriginal
That are pretty much set to against each other too.
02:02:03
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, like...
02:02:04
werthersoriginal
like the beat the With the buffalo?
02:02:04
Dick VanMeat
ah Dude, did you see this poster? Look at this poster, dude.
02:02:10
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, where it says hindsight is 20-20.
02:02:13
werthersoriginal
Yeah, that's interesting too because I think it's going to be about people falling down the hole.
02:02:13
Dick VanMeat
Dude.
02:02:17
Dick VanMeat
It's about COVID.
02:02:18
werthersoriginal
Falling down the misinformation hole and the ignorant hole.
02:02:21
DeeBo
yeah
02:02:21
werthersoriginal
Running off the cliff and killing themselves.
02:02:24
DeeBo
Do you think it it's going to be like too close to, ah not too close to home, but do you think it's just going to be like
02:02:24
Dick VanMeat
Which is which is the movies.
02:02:29
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, it's going to be too close. I think it is.
02:02:30
werthersoriginal
No, what i what I think it's going to be is it's going to seem very much close to what we're used to. And then the third act is just going skyrocket. It's going to go somewhere completely crazy and really overemphasize it.
02:02:44
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
02:02:45
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
02:02:45
werthersoriginal
and put You know what I mean?
02:02:47
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, it's gonna...
02:02:47
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
02:02:47
Dick VanMeat
Yeah. Well, you know, it's gotta...
02:02:49
werthersoriginal
Like, it'll start...
02:02:50
Dick VanMeat
Dude, first yeah it has a 66% on Rotten Tomatoes right now, which is pretty good for an Ari Aston movie, i would say.
02:02:54
DeeBo
Oh.
02:02:56
werthersoriginal
yeah
02:02:58
Dick VanMeat
That might mean that it's good.
02:02:59
DeeBo
Yeah, but, like, dude, I just don't want to be the guy that, like, realizes he doesn't like Ari Aster movies.
02:02:59
Dick VanMeat
Dude, this cast is wild.
02:03:02
werthersoriginal
going be interesting.
02:03:07
DeeBo
You know what I mean? Because I really do do not like Bo's Afraid.
02:03:14
werthersoriginal
I didn't.
02:03:14
Dick VanMeat
Well, I guess...
02:03:14
DeeBo
Like, I had, i had like,
02:03:15
Dick VanMeat
so it was I mean, to be honest, it's a movie that you kind of need a high IQ to understand to begin with.
02:03:19
DeeBo
yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, heard, I heard, allegedly.
02:03:21
Dick VanMeat
So, you know. You know. You know.
02:03:25
DeeBo
It's just, like, dude, I don't
02:03:29
Steve-O
I one out of three so far, Devin, right?
02:03:33
DeeBo
know. Right.
02:03:35
werthersoriginal
Yeah, I mean, that's true.
02:03:35
DeeBo
But, like, I don't want it to be 50-50. I don't want it to be 50-50.
02:03:37
Steve-O
quote the Hunger Games, the odds are ever in your favor.
02:03:40
DeeBo
yeah I don't want to be like, I like more Hunger Games movies than Ari Aster films.
02:03:45
Dick VanMeat
Dude, I'm so du i'm actually like really happy that like that the movie is really divisive. Because that means Ari Aster hasn't changed one bit.
02:03:52
werthersoriginal
I mean, to be honest with you, Devin, like there are certain directors like ah Brian De Palma. Like it's kind of a mixed bag for me. Like I'm not a huge fan of some of his movies. Yeah.
02:04:03
werthersoriginal
but I like enough of them to be like, yeah, he's a great director.
02:04:04
Dick VanMeat
yeah But you'll yeah, you'll be day one. You'll watch anything that comes out with day one.
02:04:09
werthersoriginal
Like he's still great, but I don't connect with a good film.
02:04:12
DeeBo
Yeah, yeah.
02:04:14
werthersoriginal
Like same thing with
02:04:17
Dick VanMeat
Yo, Bo is afraid it's a 68. That has a higher rating than Eddington.
02:04:20
werthersoriginal
Robert Altman, Robert Altman also in that camp.
02:04:20
DeeBo
oh
02:04:23
Steve-O
Yeah, I'm with y'all and Robert Altman, Chris.
02:04:25
werthersoriginal
I respect him. I respect what he was doing, but it was just too loose.
02:04:30
Steve-O
You don't like bunch of people talking over each other for two hours, a.k.a. our podcast?
02:04:35
werthersoriginal
Yeah, well...
02:04:37
Dick VanMeat
Dude, what about ah he but that Heat 2? What about Michael Mann? Because Heat 2 is coming out.
02:04:45
werthersoriginal
For day one, baby.
02:04:46
DeeBo
Mm-hmm.
02:04:46
Dick VanMeat
Day zero?
02:04:46
werthersoriginal
I read the book. I read the book.
02:04:48
Dick VanMeat
We're day zero, right?
02:04:49
werthersoriginal
Are you
02:04:49
Dick VanMeat
Oh, you read Heat 2?
02:04:50
Steve-O
read the book.
02:04:51
Dick VanMeat
Yo, let's go!
02:04:53
werthersoriginal
ah ready for this?
02:04:54
Dick VanMeat
Alright. So we're day zero, right, for Heat 2?
02:04:57
werthersoriginal
Absolutely.
02:04:57
Dick VanMeat
Day zero?
02:04:57
werthersoriginal
I want to know what happens to Chris when he joins the fucking triad down in fucking South America.
02:04:58
Dick VanMeat
Alright.
02:05:04
werthersoriginal
It's going to great.
02:05:07
Dick VanMeat
Does it take place? Is it the same characters as Heat 1?
02:05:09
werthersoriginal
yeah well it's same character it's Chris it's Val Kilmer's character escapes down to South America to get away from the big terrible robbery and right right after and then it jumps ahead about 10 years and he's like a bodyguard for the triad in this one area of South America where everybody all all
02:05:19
Dick VanMeat
Does it take place like right after he won?
02:05:25
Dick VanMeat
Oh.
02:05:34
werthersoriginal
crime comes to like do business. It's like, it's, it's a real place. I can't remember the name of the city, but it's a, yeah, just every type of crime family in South America and Asia take part in casinos, all this lord shit. And he's like a bodyguard for like a super rich drug Lord.
02:05:58
werthersoriginal
it's a hell of book, man.
02:05:59
Dick VanMeat
Interesting.
02:06:01
werthersoriginal
I loved it. I loved it. Oh, and, uh, ah Al Pacino's character is also like a big part of it because he's retiring and then Chris comes back to America. and he sees him and he's like, what the fuck?
02:06:16
DeeBo
You're
02:06:16
werthersoriginal
You're the last one. then it makes it thiss like his personal mission to track him down. It's cool. It's also flashbacks, too. There's a lot going on in Heat 2, that book.
02:06:28
werthersoriginal
I wonder what they're going to make a movie out of. Michael Mann wrote it. so
02:06:36
Dick VanMeat
I mean, yeah, that's...
02:06:37
werthersoriginal
I'm a Michael Mann fan. I'm a Michael Mann fan. I'm going to be fan of the man.
02:06:40
Steve-O
Man of the man.
02:06:43
werthersoriginal
I'm going to be First Woman.
02:06:43
DeeBo
a main fan.
02:06:45
werthersoriginal
And Heat is like, fucking one of the greatest crime movies ever made. Right? like Right?
02:06:52
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, i would say so.
02:06:52
DeeBo
Yeah.
02:06:54
werthersoriginal
Hands down, one of the greatest.
02:06:54
DeeBo
Yeah.
02:06:54
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
02:06:55
DeeBo
ah
02:06:56
werthersoriginal
Yeah? Yeah?
02:06:57
DeeBo
Yeah. I like heat.
02:07:00
Dick VanMeat
I mean, it's heat, dude.
02:07:01
werthersoriginal
It's fucking
02:07:01
DeeBo
I like, uh, fucking that Tom Cruise one.
02:07:05
werthersoriginal
fast.
02:07:05
Dick VanMeat
let Let me Google best best crime movie of all time. Let's see.
02:07:10
Dick VanMeat
Mystic River.
02:07:12
werthersoriginal
Oh, come on.
02:07:13
DeeBo
I've never seen that.
02:07:15
Steve-O
More like Mystic Pizza. That's my jam.
02:07:17
werthersoriginal
The Clint Eastwood movie, Mystic River. don't
02:07:20
DeeBo
Yeah. I, I've, I, um One, I don't love Sean Penn. He irritates me as a human.
02:07:26
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, I don't... I don't even know. Like, what counts as a crime movie? Like, is Goodfellas a crime movie?
02:07:31
Steve-O
Goodfellas is a crime movie.
02:07:31
DeeBo
Collateral awesome.
02:07:33
Steve-O
Come on, that's a classic.
02:07:35
werthersoriginal
That's up there.
02:07:35
Dick VanMeat
That's what I'm saying. Is that is that number one?
02:07:37
werthersoriginal
Definitely.
02:07:37
Steve-O
By the way, i think Goodfellas is being removed from Netflix this week.
02:07:42
werthersoriginal
What did you do?
02:07:43
Dick VanMeat
Ah, fuck!
02:07:43
werthersoriginal
Did do you write an angry email or something?
02:07:45
Steve-O
I said, these fellas aren't good. They are quite bad, I would even say.
02:07:50
werthersoriginal
yes. We'll get rid of it as soon as possible.
02:07:52
Dick VanMeat
Oh, if we're going by March...
02:07:52
Steve-O
Replace it with Sesame Street!
02:07:53
Dick VanMeat
If we're going by March badness rules, then anything is a fucking crime movie.
02:07:54
werthersoriginal
Pretty loose.
02:07:58
DeeBo
Hehehe.
02:07:58
Dick VanMeat
Fucking...
02:08:00
werthersoriginal
a
02:08:01
Dick VanMeat
Fucking...
02:08:02
werthersoriginal
loose Pretty loose, baby.
02:08:05
Dick VanMeat
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Fucking Casablanca is a fucking crime movie then.
02:08:06
werthersoriginal
a that... Yeah. That's a crime movie.
02:08:12
Dick VanMeat
Actually, Double Indentity is probably up there if you want to go that far back, right?
02:08:15
werthersoriginal
Yeah, film noir in general.
02:08:15
Steve-O
a classic. a classic.
02:08:17
werthersoriginal
Film noir is all... They're all crime.
02:08:19
Steve-O
Chinatown is a crime movie.
02:08:21
werthersoriginal
Yes.
02:08:22
Steve-O
Who framed Roger Rabbit is just Chinatown.
02:08:29
Dick VanMeat
Lord of the Rings.
02:08:31
werthersoriginal
Yeah, that's crime. Stolen Ring.
02:08:33
Steve-O
Stolen Ring.
02:08:33
Dick VanMeat
Yeah.
02:08:34
werthersoriginal
Somebody's going to get caught for that. Oh.
02:08:37
Dick VanMeat
Hell yeah.
02:08:37
Steve-O
I heard that.
Buffy Reboot Update and Podcast Conclusion
02:08:38
Dick VanMeat
Hell yeah, brother.
02:08:38
DeeBo
Oh, yeah, dude.
02:08:40
werthersoriginal
Heard that, brother.
02:08:41
DeeBo
Yeah.
02:08:41
Steve-O
heard that.
02:08:41
DeeBo
or that brother You need a T-ball. Oh, did somebody make a boom-boom after getting run over by Snowblow?
02:08:46
Steve-O
Oh, ah you got rid of my snowplow?
02:08:46
werthersoriginal
a
02:08:47
Dick VanMeat
understand all right, you sillies.
02:08:47
DeeBo
Oh.
02:08:50
werthersoriginal
i can't help it.
02:08:52
Steve-O
Jeremy?
02:08:53
DeeBo
you Jeremy Gawney.
02:08:57
DeeBo
Oh, man.
02:08:58
werthersoriginal
Hey, you're bringing it back something we all love.
02:08:59
DeeBo
Uh...
02:09:01
werthersoriginal
It's Buffy.
02:09:03
DeeBo
It's Buffy.
02:09:04
Dick VanMeat
Oh yeah.
02:09:04
DeeBo
a with ah i I'll be honest. I keep feeling like i i read one thing that it's real and another that it's not real. But I guess they cast this chick.
02:09:17
werthersoriginal
They got a Buffy.
02:09:18
DeeBo
they
02:09:19
werthersoriginal
Ryan, Kira, Armstrong.
02:09:19
DeeBo
Ryan Kira Armstrong.
02:09:22
Steve-O
They said the most important thing is three names in that name.
02:09:22
Dick VanMeat
There's a video.
02:09:27
werthersoriginal
Yes, they all have that three.
02:09:28
DeeBo
Ryan Kira Armstrong. Co-lead opposite Sarah Michelle Gellar.
02:09:31
werthersoriginal
Sarah Michelle Gellar.
02:09:35
DeeBo
Can we like it? Are we allowed to?
02:09:36
Steve-O
So Sarah Michelle Gellar is going to be basically Giles, right?
02:09:40
DeeBo
Probably.
02:09:40
werthersoriginal
Yes.
02:09:41
DeeBo
It's going to be her daughter or something.
02:09:41
Dick VanMeat
Probably. a
02:09:44
werthersoriginal
Somewhat like the comic series. I wouldn't say it's cool.
02:09:47
Dick VanMeat
yeah was do is Dawn going to be like recast?
02:09:52
DeeBo
I hope she's just happy in the hand in like just Canada.
02:09:53
werthersoriginal
I
02:09:56
Dick VanMeat
Is Joss Whedon going to crash out?
02:09:58
DeeBo
ah yeah like He just like all of a sudden starts tweeting like a psycho.
02:09:59
werthersoriginal
don't think he's famous. Oh, yeah.
02:10:03
Dick VanMeat
just ah He just he just starts just starts retweeting Kanye West tweets.
02:10:03
werthersoriginal
Oh, yeah, definitely. Stupid.
02:10:08
Dick VanMeat
Like, that's just...
02:10:08
DeeBo
stupid dumb I could did this way better drunk why won't they let me in the dressing room
02:10:11
werthersoriginal
It's him and the Skater Bros come together. And he builds his army out of them.
02:10:16
Dick VanMeat
No. Wait, no, they hate him, Chris.
02:10:20
werthersoriginal
That's true. That is true.
02:10:21
Dick VanMeat
Because of Justice League. He ruined Justice League.
02:10:22
werthersoriginal
Well, hey, hey. Wars make good strange bedfellows. You know, so maybe they'll lay it down come to his side.
02:10:30
DeeBo
oh man
02:10:31
Dick VanMeat
Damn.
02:10:32
werthersoriginal
It's war out there, guys.
02:10:35
Dick VanMeat
Well, God damn.
02:10:36
DeeBo
yeah you know Speaking of war, David Leach, I don't know how to pronounce this guy's name.
02:10:38
werthersoriginal
It's war. war.
02:10:43
DeeBo
One of the main brains behind John Wick, yeah David Lynch, ah ah is in talks to direct a Gears of War movie for Netflix.
02:10:45
Dick VanMeat
David Lynch.
02:10:56
DeeBo
i Listen, you're going to get a guy, he you certainly you could do a lot worse than him, who seems like ah he would do a good job. So that's cool.
02:11:08
DeeBo
Hey, there it is.
02:11:10
werthersoriginal
Gears Over.
02:11:10
Steve-O
I think that's
02:11:13
DeeBo
Get on the hurdy-gurdy, my friends.
02:11:18
werthersoriginal
Is that everything?
02:11:19
DeeBo
That is everything.
02:11:20
Dick VanMeat
I might be everything you have a dog Chris
02:11:22
DeeBo
Yeah, Bungie.
02:11:22
Steve-O
it. that's it
02:11:24
DeeBo
Admit it.
02:11:27
werthersoriginal
I do!
02:11:28
DeeBo
You got a crypto, dude?
02:11:28
werthersoriginal
He's turning blonde and we're thinking about getting rid of him.
02:11:32
DeeBo
That makes sense. You paid for a chocolate lab.
02:11:33
Dick VanMeat
because he's turning blonde because he's got because he's
02:11:35
werthersoriginal
yeah i Yeah, I want a chocolate lab. I don't want a fucking surf dog.
02:11:40
DeeBo
Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, bro.
02:11:41
Dick VanMeat
Because he's got frosted tips now.
02:11:42
werthersoriginal
right. Yeah, he looks too much like Guy Fieri and it's in distracting and i we're going to get rid of Sorry, Duke.
02:11:51
DeeBo
yeahybro
02:11:53
werthersoriginal
Hi, bro. You need a new doghouse. You know, you guys don't know how much this is killing me saying this, right?
02:12:04
werthersoriginal
Like it's murder.
02:12:06
werthersoriginal
I'm just being honest.
02:12:10
werthersoriginal
Yeah, you know I'm being honest. Yeah, boner.
02:12:13
Steve-O
<unk> subjective
02:12:15
werthersoriginal
yeah
02:12:15
DeeBo
Because you farted.
02:12:17
werthersoriginal
Yeah, yeah. Vibrated my balls, so give me a boner.
02:12:20
DeeBo
Yeah.
02:12:22
werthersoriginal
As most farts do, right? Everybody here?
02:12:25
Steve-O
Only the good ones.
02:12:25
werthersoriginal
Only the good ones. I don't want to keep talking about my farts, so I'm going to end this podcast right now
02:12:34
Dick VanMeat
End it.
02:12:36
DeeBo
There it is. Oh, stopla.
02:12:37
Steve-O
Oh, you make a boom boom.
02:12:39
DeeBo
Oh, I said we got hit with the show, Paul.
02:12:39
werthersoriginal
I did not make a boom boom. And you know what? I don't need a snowplow to make a boom boom. I can do without one anytime I want. So, take that.
02:12:51
Steve-O
All right.
02:12:52
DeeBo
All right, bye.
02:12:52
Steve-O
Well, but yeah, we'll see you guys. Bye.