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What actors when you see them in a movie are an instant "Not Going to Watch"?

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Introduction to the Anti-Famboy Podcast

00:00:00
AstroDev
Hello, you are listening to the all new anti-famboy podcast for the week of February 2nd, 2025. One down, 11 more to go. I'm ready.
00:00:12
AstroDev
Who's coming with me, everyone?

Meet the Podcast Crew

00:00:14
AstroDev
Because with me, we got the crew, we got Devin Kobek, and also with me, Steve Oteri.
00:00:19
Steve-O
Hey, how you doing?
00:00:20
AstroDev
And my flank, Chris Galani.
00:00:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Why'd you load a gun?
00:00:24
AstroDev
And then finally, the biggest cannibal fan I know, John Suarez.
00:00:29
Twin Cheaks
wow Man, I love you and I love I want to eat up beating.

Oscar Campaign Controversy: Cannibalism Anecdotes

00:00:34
Twin Cheaks
What does he say? I ate a warm beating heart in my head or some bullshit I'm 100% 100% serious He went method man, that's that's just what great that's just what great actors do that's what great actors do It's what great actors do.
00:00:39
AstroDev
I'm a hundred percent serious. I'm a hundred percent cannibal.
00:00:43
Steve-O
so
00:00:43
GREASEDAPOLES
That was that was and was part of his Oscar campaign. That's why he said that, because he wanted to get He wanted, he wanted, he wanted to get some gasps. He wanted to go for gasps.
00:00:55
Twin Cheaks
Okay?
00:00:55
GREASEDAPOLES
He wanted to be shocking. And they were like, wow, he needs hearts. Did this guy award?
00:01:00
Steve-O
I feel like you just need to lie now to get out of whatever you do.
00:01:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh yeah.
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AstroDev
It's pretty easy.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Just a lie, lie, Steve, and never admit when you're wrong.
00:01:08
Steve-O
Here, okay, pretend like I'm Armie Hammer and that just came out ah in the news where it's like, uh-oh, i I wanted to eat a beating heart.
00:01:09
AstroDev
Yeah. And you might, you too may become president.

Cannibalism and Religious Metaphors Debate

00:01:18
AstroDev
Yeah. Wait, I said, uh, I need to eat your entire body.
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Steve-O
i
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AstroDev
I need to drink your blood.
00:01:22
Steve-O
And you would say, yeah, that's, that's a metaphor.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I didn't say that.
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Twin Cheaks
oh god
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GREASEDAPOLES
I didn't say that.
00:01:26
Steve-O
I was, say i would come on, you guys eat Jesus's blood and heart.
00:01:30
Twin Cheaks
Oh god.
00:01:30
AstroDev
I want to, buy I want to bite pieces and off of you.
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GREASEDAPOLES
ah Oh, that makes it okay. That makes it okay. He's talking about Jesus.
00:01:37
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:01:37
Steve-O
what What I'm saying is I'm passionate.
00:01:38
AstroDev
Wait, I got another one. Would you come home and be my property till you die if I wanted to cut off one of your toes and keep it with me in my pocket?
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Twin Cheaks
Who says that shit?
00:01:47
AstroDev
So I always had a piece of you in my possession. I'm just saying, dude.
00:01:51
Steve-O
That's just something we say back in where I'm from, army hammer.
00:01:54
AstroDev
That's just a gasket locker room locker room talk, dude.
00:01:56
Steve-O
Dude, that's just me and the boys.
00:01:56
GREASEDAPOLES
Was he talking to Jesse Eisenberg during social network? Because I he said that too.
00:02:01
AstroDev
Oh, and guys, you know what? It was a deer whose heart he cut out and ate, so.
00:02:05
Steve-O
up to See, dude, Deerheart, that's a delicacy.
00:02:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, excuse me.
00:02:08
AstroDev
And.
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GREASEDAPOLES
You know, when people talk about eating hearts, you really got to specify because I get, you know, I react, but really.
00:02:14
Steve-O
Can you...
00:02:16
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a heart. If it's the animal hearts, fine.
00:02:17
Steve-O
Can you... Can you reread that one line, Devin, the one about taking off toes, but can you read it in like kind of like a you complete me kind of like Southern accent?
00:02:28
AstroDev
Uh, yeah, let me find the to control F toe.
00:02:33
AstroDev
Uh, would you come and be my property till you die? If I wanted to cut off one of your toes and keep it with me in my pocket, I always had a piece of you in my possession.
00:02:41
Twin Cheaks
Why can't I quit you?
00:02:46
Steve-O
Damn. You know what? I think we give this guy the Oscar.
00:02:48
AstroDev
I don't even want a slave. I would never feel it strongly.
00:02:51
Steve-O
OK, OK, OK, OK.
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AstroDev
Fuck, I'm too drunk and honest.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Okay, all right, mr.
00:02:53
Steve-O
Oh, you went a little you went a little too far.
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AstroDev
I'm too drunk and honest.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hammer
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Steve-O
All right, Mr. Hammer, please.
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GREASEDAPOLES
here
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Steve-O
We're going to put you back in.
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AstroDev
I feel like you're on one side of the slave spectrum.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Stop you've already struggled sir, please don't keep going It really does doesn't it ah Folks We can talk about army we talk about army hammer all night we could because the guy and Not yet, we gotta wait for Tim
00:03:03
AstroDev
And I'm on the other side of the master spectrum.
00:03:04
Steve-O
Nope, nope, nope. The problem is the accident actually makes it worse now.
00:03:06
AstroDev
And I can't even imagine another slave. i can't I can't do it.
00:03:14
AstroDev
Listen, totally raw, still warm. I'd eat your heart if I wasn't stuck without you i after.
00:03:21
Steve-O
Is this the Armie Hammer special? Are we finally doing it?
00:03:24
AstroDev
Y'all mask off, dude. Oh.
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GREASEDAPOLES
We gotta wait for Tim on that one.
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
He would be really upset if we didn't.
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AstroDev
don' Wait for a grand wizard Lucas.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Resident Cannibal Tim Lucas would have to be on here to talk about the true ethics of cannibalism and get it nailed down.
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AstroDev
to
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Twin Cheaks
Oh, God.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I don't want to talk out of school here, you know what I mean?
00:03:42
Steve-O
My favorite part of the person's the shoulders.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Interesting, interesting Tim. It's fascinating.
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AstroDev
It's the most toughest meets best joke you can get.
00:03:52
Steve-O
Really gives your mouth work hour!

Exploring David Lynch's Cinematic Universe

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GREASEDAPOLES
I have been, I've been watching some David Lynch movies and in preparation.
00:03:59
AstroDev
Oh boy.
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Twin Cheaks
Oh man, wait would you watch this week?
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GREASEDAPOLES
um I watched a bunch of his shorts that are all on, on the criteria on channel.
00:04:08
Twin Cheaks
Are there's ah those all fucking super sick? Are there's another level of sicko?
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GREASEDAPOLES
No, they're really immature and hilarious.
00:04:13
Twin Cheaks
Or no? Okay.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Cause there's, there's this whole series of shorts that he did for his website called dumb land. And it's just a man interacting with his awful neighbor who constantly farts and screams at him.
00:04:22
AstroDev
yeah
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GREASEDAPOLES
And he's like, ah, it's great.
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AstroDev
Okay.
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GREASEDAPOLES
um' Really big fan of that. Also, I i watched a firewalk with me again, because I haven't seen that in a long time. You know what's funny, watching that without, because watching it without like watching Twin Peaks as context actually it makes me understand it a little bit better.
00:04:40
AstroDev
Wait, why'd you say that?
00:04:49
GREASEDAPOLES
like
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AstroDev
hey Maybe, maybe.
00:04:50
GREASEDAPOLES
Like ah having not like because whenever I watched fire walk with me before Yeah, I don't know something about it like it clicks a little harder when you don't have to worry about all the context and it's just the way it is a Little bit a little bit like it's all atmosphere really when you don't have the the lore in your mind, so
00:04:54
AstroDev
I watched that like the same day I finished season two.
00:05:05
AstroDev
It's like differences bliss because it doesn't piss you off. Yeah.
00:05:16
GREASEDAPOLES
It's not one of my favorites of his I would say but I didn't I don't necessarily hate it um But yeah, i we'll talk about that when I do the whole David Lynch Probably the end of this month is what I'm thinking.
00:05:31
GREASEDAPOLES
We're gonna do that.
00:05:31
AstroDev
okay After.
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GREASEDAPOLES
So Yeah, I want to watch a lot of his stuff.
00:05:32
Twin Cheaks
Oh shit, so I got a whole month.
00:05:35
GREASEDAPOLES
I want to get out all of it but You haven't wait you you've watched with peace before
00:05:36
Twin Cheaks
I got a whole month to finish twin cheeks.
00:05:43
Twin Cheaks
I only watched the first season that I didn't i explain this. last Did I explain this last week?
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GREASEDAPOLES
Maybe dead. Maybe I didn't pay attention Oh, yeah
00:05:50
Twin Cheaks
Where I was like, I don't know, maybe I explained it to no, I explained it on voice chat to Tim and um and stand. But I watched the first season and then I had to move to Atlanta for work.
00:06:05
Twin Cheaks
And I was continuing to watch Twin Peaks. I think I start I think it was the beginning of season two. And Bob really fucking freaked me out.
00:06:15
Twin Cheaks
Like he was like he was terrifying.
00:06:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Hmm.
00:06:19
Twin Cheaks
And I was like, maybe I shouldn't watch something that's going to scare me when I live in an area where I don't know anybody. And, you know, and I'm living alone.
00:06:30
GREASEDAPOLES
That, that, that, that show makes you afraid of your own rooms in your house.
00:06:30
Twin Cheaks
So I stopped. So I stopped watching it then. And I never went back to it.
00:06:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Sort of like paranormal activity or Skidamarink.
00:06:38
Twin Cheaks
ah yeah Yeah, imagine being in a. Yeah, imagine being yeah, being in a in a hotel for fucking nine months and not knowing anybody in a city.
00:06:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's like an alien.
00:06:51
Twin Cheaks
It's a little scary, right?
00:06:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, you feel even more isolated.
00:06:53
Twin Cheaks
Yeah. And then imagine opening your drawer one day and seeing a fucking doll that you thought that you broke ah months before.
00:07:02
AstroDev
Wait, what?
00:07:02
GREASEDAPOLES
and you And you threw up out of fear, right?
00:07:05
AstroDev
And then you vomit it straight from here.
00:07:05
GREASEDAPOLES
You vomited out of fear, which most people don't do when they're afraid, but you did.
00:07:06
Twin Cheaks
but So that I was so bad at you fucking guys.
00:07:13
GREASEDAPOLES
It was really interesting. Um, I also, I watched two, uh, two fairly recent films over, over this week.
00:07:16
Twin Cheaks
Oh, man. Anyway, yeah.
00:07:22
Twin Cheaks
What, Inland Empire?
00:07:24
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no. Uh, not David Lynch movies.
00:07:26
Twin Cheaks
Oh, no, not David Lich.
00:07:28
GREASEDAPOLES
No, like the movies that came out last year.
00:07:28
Twin Cheaks
Oh.

Film Review: 'I Saw a TV Glow'

00:07:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, uh, on, on Devin's great recommendation, I watched, I saw a TV glow and, and I watched a different man with Sebastian Stan.
00:07:37
AstroDev
Oh.
00:07:44
Twin Cheaks
Oh, I heard that was good.
00:07:44
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm going to say,
00:07:44
AstroDev
What did you what did you think of TV glow?
00:07:46
Twin Cheaks
I heard that was good.
00:07:46
AstroDev
What did you think of that?
00:07:47
GREASEDAPOLES
i I really liked it.
00:07:49
AstroDev
OK, yeah.
00:07:49
GREASEDAPOLES
I really, really liked it.
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Twin Cheaks
Oh, OK.
00:07:50
GREASEDAPOLES
i
00:07:51
Twin Cheaks
Oh, is this another monkey man situation, Chris?
00:07:53
AstroDev
it Honestly, it might be and it might make me look even worse.
00:07:56
Twin Cheaks
It It didn't even monkey man us again.
00:07:59
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, it's it's it's a it's a wonderful, wonderful story about about not accepting who you truly are, um not about um about not accepting your true identity.
00:08:04
Twin Cheaks
That's going to be the thing now, Devin, Devin, monkey man's us.
00:08:10
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:08:11
GREASEDAPOLES
The whole crux of the movie Basically, I summed it up as, would you let your true self suffocate in order to live a comfortable life?
00:08:18
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:08:21
AstroDev
I'll be honest, I liked it more after I was like reading some articles about it. And I was like, okay, it just didn't resonate with me. Straight, straight white male guy.
00:08:31
Twin Cheaks
As a monkey man situation against fine happens.
00:08:34
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know, Devon, I thought it was a pretty poignant message.
00:08:34
Twin Cheaks
Happens a few times a year.
00:08:38
GREASEDAPOLES
I really, I love that scene ah inside the giant bubble in the gym. where she's basically telling justice to kill himself.
00:08:45
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:08:48
AstroDev
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
um Wonderful, scary, isolating movie.
00:08:52
Twin Cheaks
Who isn't who is in that movie?
00:08:54
AstroDev
Fred Durst.
00:08:55
Steve-O
What? The director of my favorite movie?
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Twin Cheaks
And you and you didn't like it, Devin?
00:08:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Is he?
00:09:00
AstroDev
I think he's the dad, isn't he?
00:09:02
GREASEDAPOLES
No shit, is he really?
00:09:03
AstroDev
um Dude, I'm like.
00:09:05
GREASEDAPOLES
Wow.
00:09:05
Twin Cheaks
Chris is like, I don't like it anymore.
00:09:07
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he did it.
00:09:08
Steve-O
The director of the fanatic?
00:09:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Whoa, and he's like the,
00:09:09
AstroDev
hes Wow, Chris.
00:09:10
Twin Cheaks
yeah
00:09:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, he doesn't even talk much in it, which is crazy.
00:09:16
AstroDev
No, he has like two lines.
00:09:18
GREASEDAPOLES
And he's extremely abusive, which makes sense.
00:09:22
Steve-O
Is this line, do you like Limp Biscuit?
00:09:24
AstroDev
It's lines.
00:09:25
GREASEDAPOLES
I think he's made he's forcing his son to listen to Limp Bizkit as he's vomiting up unicorn blood.
00:09:31
AstroDev
A TV static or whatever. Yeah.
00:09:33
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know what the fuck that shit is. Yeah, I don't know, man. I really click with me and I really liked the whole
00:09:41
AstroDev
Okay. I fucking, I fucking bet.
00:09:44
GREASEDAPOLES
I like the Buffy thing.
00:09:47
AstroDev
The puppy things cool Oh, yeah, dude I Wanted to watch that show they watched I was like yo Yeah, I was like I'd watch the fuck out of this
00:09:48
GREASEDAPOLES
I love, I love too that it's a movie about the LGBT community and Buffy to me, like what I see people talk about Buffy specifically, Willa's relationship later on in the season, I was like fourth, fifth season.
00:10:07
GREASEDAPOLES
The the Pink Opaque.
00:10:11
GREASEDAPOLES
It's got a cool name too. I just, yeah, everything about it was interesting. I don't know. Maybe give it another shot though. Maybe try it again. Cause I will say, I will say, I think the performances were a little stilted, but I feel like that was more, I
00:10:19
AstroDev
well
00:10:26
AstroDev
I'll be honest, I haven't, I don't think I've seen anything with Justice Smith where I liked his acting. He, he grates on me.
00:10:35
GREASEDAPOLES
think in this one,
00:10:38
AstroDev
Cause he always seemed like he's too cool to be there.
00:10:41
GREASEDAPOLES
I got, I got the impression that he's literally choking on him, his own self in that.
00:10:46
AstroDev
Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, it's kind of. By the end of it, it's like literally. Yeah.
00:10:52
GREASEDAPOLES
It's pretty obvious, right?
00:10:52
AstroDev
What happened? Yeah, it's very.
00:10:53
GREASEDAPOLES
That I thought the end two was a little, it was a little heavy handed. You know, I think we didn't really need that giant, that reveal at the very end.
00:11:03
AstroDev
You know what it has, though? Well, like near the end of the movie, you remember his like his coworker, his boss.
00:11:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, Connor O'Malley? That guy's great.
00:11:09
AstroDev
Dude, I can't. But like, ah like, bro, that's the fucking that's the.
00:11:13
GREASEDAPOLES
The Lady Frankenstein guy.
00:11:15
AstroDev
The Lady Frankenstein guy, it's the guy in the, I think you should leave skit where he scares his dog.
00:11:19
Steve-O
the
00:11:20
AstroDev
Like I just takes me you're right out, which is unfortunate.
00:11:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, he plays a hell of an asshole in this, and I think that fits pretty well.
00:11:26
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:11:28
GREASEDAPOLES
i Yeah, I think it's a good set. I really enjoyed it.
00:11:31
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:31
GREASEDAPOLES
i And i I will say,
00:11:32
AstroDev
I'm definitely in the minority for sure with that movie.
00:11:36
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people really liked it from what I read online.
00:11:38
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah. I'm okay with being wrong.
00:11:39
Twin Cheaks
It seemed like.
00:11:41
AstroDev
Like I'm okay with it.
00:11:42
GREASEDAPOLES
I watched a different man as well with Sebastian Stan. This movie hit me like a fucking ton of bricks, man.
00:11:50
AstroDev
Okay.
00:11:50
GREASEDAPOLES
Wow.
00:11:51
AstroDev
It's on my docket.
00:11:51
GREASEDAPOLES
What a movie.
00:11:51
Twin Cheaks
It was good.
00:11:52
AstroDev
It's on my docket.
00:11:53
Twin Cheaks
That's is that the movie he got nominated for?
00:11:56
AstroDev
No, got nominated for the.
00:11:56
GREASEDAPOLES
No.
00:11:57
Twin Cheaks
He got nominated for the Trump movie.
00:11:59
AstroDev
Yeah, which I heard is good.
00:11:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:12:00
AstroDev
I just,

Sebastian Stan in 'A Different Man': Performance and Themes

00:12:01
AstroDev
I've only really heard about different man.
00:12:01
GREASEDAPOLES
I think that's appropriate in in in this scenario. I don't, I think his performance in this movie, he plays, like characters I really don't like are very passive and he's like extremely passive character, but it plays into the classic doppelganger myth, you know, the German myth of somebody coming into your life that's slightly better than you and replacing you.
00:12:06
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:21
AstroDev
yeah
00:12:28
GREASEDAPOLES
but it does it and it in a different way. It really flips the whole narrative on its head, um partially because you know he is disabled, deformed from birth, then loses that deformity and then is replaced by a man with that same deformity.
00:12:47
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:12:48
GREASEDAPOLES
It's just that there's a lot of levels.
00:12:49
AstroDev
Yeah. He's like, what?
00:12:51
GREASEDAPOLES
There's so many layers to this because it's basically is a play that's going on. That's about his life before he got the treatment. Which also, this movie ties very well to the substance too.
00:13:02
GREASEDAPOLES
they're very These movies are like brother and sister.
00:13:03
AstroDev
Well, so I'll be honest, I was interested and then the substance came out and I was kind of like.
00:13:09
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a little bit better. The substance is better, I think.
00:13:12
AstroDev
That's what I mean, like it kind of I was like, I don't want to see kind of the same movie, but worse.
00:13:17
GREASEDAPOLES
It's um not worse.
00:13:18
AstroDev
And that's what I'm not even saying it's bad. It's just like it took it took all the excitement out for me.
00:13:21
GREASEDAPOLES
It is worse. but it's
00:13:25
GREASEDAPOLES
I think, I think you're right to some degree, but I don't want to relegate it and say that it's not a good movie. I think it was great. I really, partially, I think you, you might've been right either consciously or subconsciously. I kind of ignored this movie maybe because of the substance. I don't know, but, um, ended up watching it and Sebastian Stan's incredible. Um, is he as good as playing something like Donald Trump and the apprentice? Probably not. Like that's.
00:13:54
GREASEDAPOLES
a big role.

Analyzing 'Severance': Corporate Control and Identity

00:13:55
GREASEDAPOLES
um This role, he's sort of like just like a planet that the story revolves around in this movie.
00:13:55
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:14:05
GREASEDAPOLES
And that's interesting. um Yeah, it's just and it's really well shot. The soundtrack is amazing. um I just, yeah, I urge everybody to go out and and watch this, give it a shot.
00:14:18
GREASEDAPOLES
because it's it's really as very layered and it like the chaos and insanity of it starts to really set in while you're watching it.
00:14:19
Twin Cheaks
Okay.
00:14:27
GREASEDAPOLES
And you're like, what the fuck? There's so many layers of things going on in this one scene. um Yeah, really, well I like both these movies quite a bit. I think i think ah a different man's a marry for me.
00:14:40
GREASEDAPOLES
I think I think i saw a TV glow is ah is a good set, a great fuck.
00:14:41
AstroDev
Okay.
00:14:41
Twin Cheaks
Whoa.
00:14:49
GREASEDAPOLES
But not a Mary. I think there's some issues with it Yeah, oh I watched I watched severance too, but we'll talk If everybody's caught up, well you can talk about that.
00:14:53
AstroDev
Cool. I saw a movie. Oh, me too.
00:14:57
Steve-O
Oh my goodness, Severance.
00:14:57
AstroDev
Me too. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:01
Steve-O
Episode three, we're talking.
00:15:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, yeah, I Have to say I think that interview at the door factory is one of my favorite scenes in that old show man
00:15:02
AstroDev
absolutely ah I really it.
00:15:03
Steve-O
What'd you think of two, Dev, in episode two?
00:15:08
Steve-O
The Audis.
00:15:08
AstroDev
I really, I, yeah.
00:15:18
GREASEDAPOLES
I fucking love everything about that.
00:15:21
AstroDev
I'm like a little too paranoid because, uh, and we don't want to spend too much time on it, but have you guys heard about the theory about Heli?
00:15:30
Steve-O
i You know what I didn't even need to hear that theory because I thought it I thought it immediately
00:15:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Yes.
00:15:33
AstroDev
Yeah, right.
00:15:33
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah Yeah.
00:15:34
AstroDev
It's like, it's like probably, it's probably, it's so strong. It's probably the truth, right?
00:15:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Here. Well, actually, I think it might be a red herring.
00:15:42
AstroDev
Oh, man. You know, what's funny, though, is like when he OK, when there's the scene where he meets his wife, I was like, she's saying that's fuck playing. There's no fucking way. And then, you know, it's it's real, which which actually makes it more interesting, to be honest. So I was like glad about that.
00:15:59
AstroDev
um Yeah, I ah I don't know, though. It's I mean, so um'm I'm really digging it. It's just. ah I also read a cool theory about the board.
00:16:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, i have I think the board from from my gathering watching it, I think that's the the culmination of all the minds and the CEOs.
00:16:22
AstroDev
Right. Yeah, I mean, that what yeah, what I read was basically heard Helly's dad is just all of the which is why he says weird shit like feted mule or whatever.
00:16:23
Steve-O
The former, yeah.
00:16:24
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:16:32
AstroDev
the Yeah, fed it market like he speaks like a fucking dude from the 18th century.
00:16:32
Steve-O
Fitted muppet.
00:16:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Fetted Mop-it. Love that.
00:16:38
AstroDev
ah Like that why he always seems really distracting. At the end of the day, Helly is going to be the next board member.
00:16:45
GREASEDAPOLES
I think it's it's sort of like ah being John Malkovich where they had...
00:16:47
Steve-O
Mm.
00:16:49
AstroDev
I've never seen it, so I don't fucking get what you're talking about, Chris.
00:16:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, in being John Malkovich, Devin, John Malkovich was a vessel for all of these old people, right?
00:16:54
AstroDev
Sorry. Don't spoil it! Just kidding.
00:17:01
GREASEDAPOLES
And they were going to climb into his head when they reached, I think they were all 90 and they would live on in John Malkovich's head together. And they've been doing this for like centuries.
00:17:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Like they find a vessel and they all just think there's this little door that they all go into to get into John Malkovich's head.
00:17:19
AstroDev
Is that just, that explains why he's so weird. Is that that that explains it.
00:17:22
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, no, no, no, no. Like he was, he was
00:17:24
Steve-O
you the way you describe that Chris it makes me think that like yeah I mean that's just like get out but it's right
00:17:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, to some degree. The whole idea of like a bunch of personalities, all like inhabiting a single person to live forever. You know, that I'd seen that, that was ju the plot of the weird marginalized plot of being John Malkovich, right?
00:17:52
GREASEDAPOLES
It really wasn't about that. It was just you know a movie about Craig, the guy who works with that.
00:17:56
Steve-O
we We get to see that the girt ah the goat department this this episode.
00:18:00
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:04
GREASEDAPOLES
mammalian husbandry or whatever of a million Husbando husbandable They
00:18:04
AstroDev
I.
00:18:06
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:18:06
Steve-O
Brianne of Tarth was there.
00:18:10
AstroDev
The black sheep guy.
00:18:12
Steve-O
That was funny. They were like, can we see your bellies?
00:18:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:18:15
Steve-O
We heard you had pouches.
00:18:15
GREASEDAPOLES
don't have they don't have pouches he's like that that's not doesn't prove anything Yeah, there's something going on like I was talking to my dad while watching this and you know, obviously there's that baseline philosophy of a corporation trying to control your every move and, you know, make you a slave to it.
00:18:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Of course, that's there. But there's also the layers of all this other stuff where, you know, I don't even think what they're doing even matters, like the work they're doing.
00:18:51
GREASEDAPOLES
It's just an experiment like.
00:18:52
AstroDev
I mean, sort of, it seems really important that Mark does something.
00:18:52
Steve-O
every everything around.
00:18:55
AstroDev
They don't seem to care what anyone else does, but Mark.
00:18:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. I think Mark is like their, their main rat running through the maze. Like they really care about what he's doing.
00:19:02
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:19:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, yeah, it's just shows you like they're so segregated from one another. They're living in their own little like microcosm world, you know, with the land and the macro data refinement and ah O and D like all the offices look different.
00:19:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Like it just seems like they're all these little microcosms that they're studying.
00:19:27
Steve-O
Oh my, dude, when, oh my God, when they were like, we've, we've, uh, how, what are the, how did I forget the phrasing, but they were like, we have re canonized some paintings for you.
00:19:27
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:19:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Yo dude, what the?
00:19:40
Steve-O
Oh my God.
00:19:41
GREASEDAPOLES
Holy shit.
00:19:43
Steve-O
Oh my God.
00:19:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Like, and that is really perfect and it plays to the theory that the board are old and antiquated because they think that's like a respectful thing to do.
00:19:54
Steve-O
Right.
00:19:54
AstroDev
yeah
00:19:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Like, that's okay. Well, we're trying to give him something to idolize. No, you don't need to blackface Keir.
00:20:00
AstroDev
Yeah, he's like, what the fuck? Yeah.
00:20:06
GREASEDAPOLES
And he was just disgusted by it, you know?
00:20:08
Steve-O
I love the, I love the, like the doubt and disbelief that like you see, cause like Mrs. Cobell, like, well, I mean, before this episode, she was like 100% on board with like the idolization of the cure and like that stuff.
00:20:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Mm.
00:20:24
Steve-O
I mean, again, this episode, a lot of things are changing, like, uh, but I love, I love like the doubt and like the like trying to like play ball, but just like, it's just all too much.
00:20:28
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:20:36
Steve-O
It's just all too much.
00:20:38
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:20:38
GREASEDAPOLES
There's something else that I think Cobell is looking for, like outside of Keir's love, outside of the job.
00:20:43
Steve-O
Dude, what is going on outside in the outside world?
00:20:43
AstroDev
Yeah. um yeah
00:20:47
GREASEDAPOLES
That's a whole nother thing too. Like what is the world that they inhabit outside of the office? Like what is that weird Cobell or Keertown?
00:20:53
Steve-O
It's, I watched, I watched a YouTube video and it was like, well, it's like, there's no place in America called the salt neck.
00:21:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Yep.
00:21:01
Steve-O
And also if you listen to like that scene, it's like all snow, but it's just like a cacophony of birds in this like weird tree list, no place.
00:21:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Hmm.
00:21:13
Steve-O
There's like seagulls there. It's just weird. It's just weird.
00:21:16
AstroDev
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, the Cobell stuff is kind of. I'm like, bro, stop. It doesn't. I mean, we're only in three episodes, right? But it's like. I they just need to have the Cobell episode already because I'm just like, and it's too vague.
00:21:36
GREASEDAPOLES
i think she's I think she's worried that she might forfeit like a position somewhere.
00:21:42
AstroDev
Yeah, but then, you know, at the end of that, ah they're like,
00:21:43
GREASEDAPOLES
You know?
00:21:44
Steve-O
She saw that driver man.
00:21:45
AstroDev
I'm on in and she's like, never mind.
00:21:46
Steve-O
That driver freaked her out.
00:21:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, they were gonna get her.
00:21:49
Steve-O
I don't know what it was.
00:21:49
GREASEDAPOLES
They were gonna get her.
00:21:49
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:21:50
GREASEDAPOLES
but we're gonna get her
00:21:50
AstroDev
Like, why does she weirdly care about Mark? You know, like there's something there, too. And it's like, what's going on? And there's a there's like kind of too many. Like, it's just like they keep piling on the questions with Go Bell.
00:22:03
AstroDev
And I'm like, you need to answer one.
00:22:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh man, what if... What if Mark is like the rebirth of their CEO or something and they're, they're manipulating his life to make him more like here.
00:22:10
AstroDev
God. Well. Yeah, I'll be honest though, like I just, I'm just enjoying the mystery of it.
00:22:15
GREASEDAPOLES
That's, that's a theory.
00:22:16
Steve-O
Uh, yeah.
00:22:21
AstroDev
It's just more, it's far more interesting to me, the mystery than probably the truth.
00:22:24
Steve-O
I just liked the bit. I just liked the business getting done.
00:22:27
GREASEDAPOLES
And you know, I, I, I also talked, I was talking to my family about like this show and lost and, and from
00:22:29
AstroDev
this
00:22:33
Steve-O
but Yeah.
00:22:35
GREASEDAPOLES
And like, I look at like shows like with that level of lore and mystery. And I'm always like, well, what else do you bring into the table? but Because with Lost, that was all you really needed, right?
00:22:46
GREASEDAPOLES
You needed that, that mystery to keep you going. But then it fumbled the end. And you were like, well, I was kind of spurned by the whole experience. So now when I look at these shows, I always am like, well, what else is there to cling on to outside of the plot that could undersell?
00:22:56
Steve-O
Right. Mm hmm.
00:23:06
GREASEDAPOLES
And for me, Severance is like lost, but it's all in the hatch.
00:23:12
Steve-O
I yeah, 100% I can see that.
00:23:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:23:14
GREASEDAPOLES
You know, like all the cool aesthetic Dharma initiative shit that I really loved, like the the aesthetics of Lost was all in the hatch. Like the island I could give a fuck about, really.
00:23:26
Steve-O
Once that hatch opened up and like they were like doing these weird like experiments and like trying to type the computer numbers in. Also those numbers, they pop up in this show regularly.
00:23:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, wow. Really? The Fibonacci sequence or whatever.
00:23:38
Steve-O
Yeah. Uh, so it was, um, like on that salt neck sign, the mileage was like two of the loss numbers. So like they're, they're constantly, you know, making reference to that. But I think they're doing that because they're fans.
00:23:50
GREASEDAPOLES
But yeah, I think what really sells a show as much as the mystery is the aesthetic.
00:23:50
Steve-O
Um,
00:23:55
GREASEDAPOLES
Everything looks cool.
00:23:57
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:23:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Everything has a really unique look and it shot really well. Like everything looks amazing. Lost kind of looks like a television show.
00:24:06
Steve-O
There was a point where Lost got lazy and I think the details kind of got muddled but and I like, yeah, everything so far in the first two seasons of this has been like, oh, this is just some like top tier cinematic stuff. This last episode was directed by, by Ben, uh,
00:24:24
Steve-O
What's this?
00:24:24
GREASEDAPOLES
And still here.
00:24:24
AstroDev
Stiller.
00:24:24
Steve-O
andt Stiller, stiller, stiller. I must have been Kingsley. and I'm like, that's not right.
00:24:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he does a lot. He tracks a lot of episodes when I remember um and they they look great.
00:24:30
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:24:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Like cementography is amazing. Um, so I guess that's really what brings me back to the table. If, you know, even if the mystery doesn't pay it out.
00:24:44
Steve-O
I think it's also gonna have like a theme, which like Lost really didn't have like the theme of like, what was the theme to Lost? Like the theme to this show is like,
00:24:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Rebirth? Oh no.
00:24:56
Steve-O
Dude, like, don't separate.
00:24:56
GREASEDAPOLES
The only thing I felt like Lost got a theme late in the game. You know, like they figured out what their theme was going to be really late into the show.
00:25:03
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:25:08
AstroDev
Yeah, you had to, you had to give that a few seasons so you can figure out what's in that mystery box, dude.
00:25:11
GREASEDAPOLES
That's kind of what it felt like.
00:25:12
Steve-O
a
00:25:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Where this show seems to have a very clear theme and a very clear like question that it's asking the audience.
00:25:22
Steve-O
Right. So would you do this?
00:25:23
GREASEDAPOLES
And.
00:25:24
Steve-O
Would this be something that you would do? And here's like what probably would happen to people.
00:25:28
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a wonderful philosophical argument. You know, really.
00:25:33
Steve-O
Dude, I can't wait to see the the future stuff with Dylan, though, because I like the idea of like it feels like his wife is going to keep coming back to see any Dylan.
00:25:33
GREASEDAPOLES
And.
00:25:44
GREASEDAPOLES
See, that's the thing, I think she's going to tell him to quit.
00:25:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Because like that experience was really weird.
00:25:51
Steve-O
It was really weird, but like...
00:25:52
AstroDev
Yeah, it seemed like she really likes any Dylan because any Dylan looks at her like she's the best thing in the world.
00:25:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, that's interesting.
00:25:59
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:26:00
GREASEDAPOLES
I never thought about that.
00:26:01
AstroDev
And she and like Audi Dylan's a fucking idiot, you know.
00:26:04
GREASEDAPOLES
That's true. yeah
00:26:04
Steve-O
Yeah, that part where he's like, is he a fuck up?
00:26:07
Steve-O
Do we run a cattle ranch?
00:26:10
AstroDev
Yeah, he's like because he's like fat, he thinks like he looks at her like she's the fucking sun and stars and like he's like, oh, my God.
00:26:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:26:17
AstroDev
and
00:26:18
GREASEDAPOLES
Hmm.
00:26:19
AstroDev
And then he was like, yeah, I'll put the cookies in.
00:26:19
Steve-O
It was like, it was like this like weird meet cute.
00:26:21
AstroDev
I forgot whatever.
00:26:24
GREASEDAPOLES
It is, yeah, I guess maybe that she likes that Dylan more maybe.
00:26:28
AstroDev
I mean, yeah, it's probably.
00:26:29
Steve-O
It's it's just like that like that like early relationship stuff where it's like it's still like fresh and young and he he has that because it's it's all new to him still.
00:26:38
GREASEDAPOLES
That's where she loved Dylan is when he was not as depressing and a fuck up.
00:26:43
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Eh, I see, I see, I see what you're saying.
00:26:44
Steve-O
You know.
00:26:46
AstroDev
like Just watching TV all the time when he's not working.
00:26:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Not making cookies, I think he's supposed to.
00:26:50
AstroDev
Do I, you know, I hate, I'd probably be doing like, I just take that job because it seems fucking easy as shit.
00:26:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's what I was looking at him, I'm like, yeah. It's like this whole show is kinda like, it still hasn't worn down my agreement with the process.
00:27:06
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:27:07
Steve-O
No, and like, and like next episode is like ah going to be a total shakeup too.
00:27:08
GREASEDAPOLES
It still hasn't gotten there.
00:27:10
AstroDev
ah
00:27:10
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah So we'll see, Devin.
00:27:13
Steve-O
So like but that's on Chris's list through.
00:27:15
GREASEDAPOLES
We're getting close to where I'm like, all right, this is a bad idea.
00:27:15
AstroDev
yeah Yeah. Like, yeah.
00:27:20
Steve-O
It's like, I'm not crossing it off yet.
00:27:21
AstroDev
Jesus.
00:27:25
GREASEDAPOLES
We're getting there. It's getting pretty Kafkaesque.
00:27:26
AstroDev
Could you imagine, though, like, you know, be scary? It's like if just like, think about right. Like, ah imagine you're you're hell you are. Right. And then you find out you're fucking any try to kill themselves.
00:27:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:27:40
AstroDev
Chris, wouldn't it be the scariest fucking thing every day going into work? You're like, am I going to come out?
00:27:46
GREASEDAPOLES
I come out every day.
00:27:46
AstroDev
You'd be terrified, dude.
00:27:48
GREASEDAPOLES
I come out every day anyway. Like, how long have I been working there?
00:27:51
AstroDev
Yeah, but you have no control, right? You just go in.
00:27:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, you're right. I mean, the loss of control, of course, is scary, but like.
00:27:56
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:27:59
AstroDev
Also, I read it. I read a post that was like, Helly are has no idea what it feels like to take your bra off. And that must be insane. And I was like, damn, we have her a hard day.
00:28:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh,
00:28:08
AstroDev
Just like, ah, taking off.
00:28:10
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, there's no comfort. There's no comfort for anybody.
00:28:12
AstroDev
Yeah, she's always wearing high heels and shit. It's like, dude.
00:28:15
GREASEDAPOLES
They don't know what it's like to take their shoes off.
00:28:17
AstroDev
Yeah, you know.
00:28:18
GREASEDAPOLES
You know? Of course. i It's still, though, my answer still yes.
00:28:21
AstroDev
Don't do it, Chris. Don't do it. Oh, my God.
00:28:24
GREASEDAPOLES
Sorry, Devin. We'll see.
00:28:27
AstroDev
Oh, man.
00:28:27
GREASEDAPOLES
We'll see. We're getting close. It's getting close.
00:28:29
AstroDev
I know, I know.
00:28:29
GREASEDAPOLES
It's being bad. It's getting close to being bad.
00:28:30
AstroDev
Well, you know, I saw actually I saw a movie. So a new movie. I saw a new movie and I tried to watch another new movie, but I fell asleep. Not because it was bad.
00:28:41
AstroDev
It was just late.
00:28:43
GREASEDAPOLES
All right, would you watch?
00:28:44
AstroDev
I saw a companion today.
00:28:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, man, wait, that came out.
00:28:48
AstroDev
Yes, came out Friday.
00:28:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, shit, I had no idea.
00:28:50
AstroDev
Companion was awesome. It's it's very much like a fun date movie for sure.
00:28:53
GREASEDAPOLES
I got to see that. God damn it.
00:28:58
AstroDev
um The twist is kind of spoiled in the latest trail. I say twist, but like, you know, the the point of the movie is it's kind of spoiled in the in the latest trailer.
00:29:09
AstroDev
So take that however you'd like. But. Sophie Thatcher is awesome in it. Actually, the whole cast is really good. Lucas Gage. Um, uh, Guillermo from fucking, which we'll call it.
00:29:24
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, he's in it.
00:29:24
AstroDev
Yeah. Guillermo from, uh, what are we doing? The shadows is in it. Uh, Lucas.
00:29:28
GREASEDAPOLES
You're leading up to the lead actor. What's his name?
00:29:31
AstroDev
Uh, Jack Quaid.
00:29:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Jack Quaid.
00:29:33
AstroDev
I'll be honest though, Jack Quaid needs to, he plays one of two characters in his basically career.
00:29:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:29:42
AstroDev
And he's one of those two characters. And I'd really like him to switch it up at some point.
00:29:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Mm hmm.
00:29:47
AstroDev
He's good at it. he is he's He's quite good at it. um And one of my, I mean, probably, you know my first theater going experience of 2025,
00:29:58
AstroDev
I almost did have to kill somebody, um which is a little upsetting, but they left, which is nice.
00:30:05
GREASEDAPOLES
What happened?
00:30:07
AstroDev
So we get in and we're you know, we're two seats. So we're two seats from the end of the aisle. So there's a couple right next to me, essentially.
00:30:18
AstroDev
And fucking Guillermo comes. I feel bad. Harvey Harvey comes in the real actor's name, the character of Eli. And he comes in and I went to Jenny and I was like, oh, that's, you know, it's Guillermo.
00:30:33
AstroDev
And like, we just kind of have a little cute, like, you know, whatever. Oh, there he is. And then this couple starts doing what I assume is the same thing, but they're much louder and they fucking turn their phone on and they're just on IMDB.
00:30:47
AstroDev
And I'm like, are they going to shut the fuck up?
00:30:48
Twin Cheaks
Oh my God.
00:30:50
AstroDev
Like, because, at you know, at one point it's like we're two minutes in and they're just like, no, no, no.
00:30:54
Twin Cheaks
You said you said something, right?
00:30:56
AstroDev
I looked over and I was like, I i went to Chennai, I was like, I'm gonna fucking kill this guy.

Movie Experiences: 'Companion' and 'The First Omen'

00:31:00
AstroDev
And then a they just get up and they just walk out. And I'm like, I think they just realized they were in the wrong theater.
00:31:04
Twin Cheaks
What?
00:31:07
Twin Cheaks
Oh.
00:31:08
AstroDev
And like I'm making excuses for them, but I'm like, that might explain why they're on IMDB and they're like, none of these actors are in this movie. What the fuck are we in?
00:31:16
Twin Cheaks
We ah thought we were watching Sonic 3 and fucking...
00:31:19
AstroDev
and they yeah like I really thought they just got up and then, yeah, I really thought they just
00:31:19
Steve-O
i don't know No hedgehogs yet.
00:31:21
Twin Cheaks
What the We're Sonic.
00:31:24
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, what what's the other one word movie that came out that week?
00:31:28
AstroDev
Uh, I don't think so.
00:31:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Is there another one? Cause that's the only way I would think they would get confused.
00:31:33
AstroDev
Uh, Yeah, you're right.
00:31:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Cause one word movie titles, you know, they can go, you can go anywhere with those. You really, I don't know what we're going for. We're seeing what we call breeze or something.
00:31:41
AstroDev
You're right. There was also a Kiki Palmer movie that came out, but I didn't see that. Uh, Dog Man, kind of.
00:31:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Could've been his dog, man.
00:31:48
AstroDev
anything put this dog man ah may Maybe they thought they were seeing presents.
00:31:48
GREASEDAPOLES
That's what they wanted to go see.
00:31:49
Steve-O
Two tickets for Dog Man.
00:31:51
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, this ain't dumb man. God damn it. This would be funny if you said that. ah He threw his hat. Oh, that's a good, that's close.
00:32:00
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:01
Twin Cheaks
God damn.
00:32:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Presents, companion, those three syllables, two syllables.
00:32:04
AstroDev
I think they would have quickly found out this wasn't Sonic 3, so I don't think it was that. But yeah, no, this movie was kind of awesome. Our 30s, five minutes, so just kind of moved and.
00:32:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Ooh, nice and breezy. Easy breezy.
00:32:20
AstroDev
She's great. I so you don't want to talk. You want to talk about fucking not being able to be swayed that this is a bad idea. We're talking about companions.
00:32:31
AstroDev
I'm like, no, I'd still do it. I'd still be that guy, um especially they' be like Sophie Thatcher.
00:32:35
GREASEDAPOLES
See? There you go. Everybody's got their thing.
00:32:39
AstroDev
God damn. um
00:32:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Everybody's got their thing, man.
00:32:41
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I am.
00:32:42
GREASEDAPOLES
Just like how I would want to trap Sophie Thatcher in my house and make her not be a Christian anymore.
00:32:47
Twin Cheaks
What else is Sophie Thatcher from?
00:32:50
AstroDev
um She's in yellow jackets. It's probably the main thing she's known for heretic.
00:32:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Heretic.
00:32:55
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:32:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Very good in Heretic.
00:32:57
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:32:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Very good in Yellow Jackets.
00:32:58
AstroDev
She got a good cry face.
00:32:59
Twin Cheaks
She was in Boba Fett, the book of Boba Fett.
00:33:01
AstroDev
Got a good.
00:33:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Luckily, her character's still around.
00:33:04
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, she's like literally.
00:33:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't.
00:33:07
AstroDev
the Yeah, we don't talk about that one.
00:33:10
Twin Cheaks
Hey, keep going.
00:33:11
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, no, don't, no, not that.
00:33:13
Twin Cheaks
You go.
00:33:15
AstroDev
But no companion also has one of my it's a subtle kill and it's a kill.
00:33:20
Twin Cheaks
She's in mad. She's in Madam Webb.
00:33:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, no, no, no, not that, no, no.
00:33:23
AstroDev
Did you really?
00:33:24
Twin Cheaks
I was just kidding, I was just trying to think of things.
00:33:25
AstroDev
Oh.
00:33:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh.
00:33:27
AstroDev
Yeah, I was about to take my pants off, dude. I was like, whoa.
00:33:29
Twin Cheaks
You're about to get up and get out of the theater like those guys did.
00:33:31
AstroDev
I was about to be like, yeah. yeah
00:33:34
Twin Cheaks
Oh, this this girl was in fucking Madam Webb. Fuck this movie.
00:33:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Haha.
00:33:39
Twin Cheaks
It'll deserve our time.
00:33:40
AstroDev
Yeah, but um no, honestly, and it's a suspense film getting kind of like not horror, but like, you know, there's there's fun murders. and And one of my favorite kills that I've seen in a little bit. And it was one of those where I was like, I should have seen this one coming from a mile away. But yeah, man, I really dug that movie. So I'd say very good sit. Not quite a marry. I don't think the stakes are that high. But definitely enjoyed it. Definitely one of those movies where I'd be like, yeah, let's fucking I'd I'd watch this one again in a second for sure.
00:34:20
AstroDev
Uh, I also watched some of the first omen.
00:34:26
GREASEDAPOLES
um
00:34:26
AstroDev
Um, no, no, sorry.
00:34:26
Steve-O
Oh, geoman.
00:34:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, Jim.
00:34:30
AstroDev
Uh, the first, the movie's literally called the first omen.
00:34:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Sound like you were saying that you were talking in different language there, Steve.
00:34:32
Steve-O
Oh.
00:34:32
AstroDev
Um, yeah, it came out last year.
00:34:34
Twin Cheaks
Uh...
00:34:36
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, Jim.
00:34:36
Steve-O
Ho, geoman.
00:34:37
AstroDev
It's actually pretty good. Um, well from what I saw and also like critically, I think it's like an 85%.
00:34:44
GREASEDAPOLES
It's okay. I watched that too.
00:34:46
AstroDev
You watched it? Yeah. I I watched just to the point where that one nun fucking lights herself on fire and then hangs herself. And I was like, OK, cool. But then I was just I was falling asleep a little bit. So I should put this down for a minute.
00:35:03
GREASEDAPOLES
I have an issue. I always have issues with movies where I know what the ending is going to be before the movie even begins.
00:35:08
AstroDev
OK, yeah.
00:35:09
GREASEDAPOLES
So you're definitely going to see that.
00:35:10
Twin Cheaks
Oh man, you must you must have hated Oppenheimer then.
00:35:13
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:35:13
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
00:35:16
GREASEDAPOLES
They they hid.
00:35:16
Twin Cheaks
Checkmate.
00:35:17
GREASEDAPOLES
They hid it really well.
00:35:19
AstroDev
yeah you
00:35:19
GREASEDAPOLES
And I didn't know it was coming. All right.
00:35:21
AstroDev
yeah
00:35:21
GREASEDAPOLES
They hit it really well.
00:35:23
Twin Cheaks
I mean, to be fair, they they didn't show the actual I thought they were going to show that, but they they.
00:35:23
AstroDev
and
00:35:29
Twin Cheaks
Just did the test explosion instead, which is.
00:35:30
AstroDev
I wear that guy farted in the theater.
00:35:33
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
00:35:33
GREASEDAPOLES
I think what what the Oppenheimer, what it did well with hiding, you know, that we already know what's going to happen is it kind of kind of ripped apart the plot lines and had them, you know, doing flashbacks and flash words.
00:35:47
AstroDev
What's not building the bomb is more interesting.
00:35:47
GREASEDAPOLES
It was kind of.
00:35:47
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
00:35:48
GREASEDAPOLES
ah Oh, yeah, 100 percent.
00:35:51
AstroDev
Just things, you know.
00:35:53
GREASEDAPOLES
That's what they call it.
00:35:53
AstroDev
Well, like you can't really build the Antichrist, right? You're just kind of.
00:35:57
GREASEDAPOLES
What they call it, they call it a spiral narrative like Citizen Kane. Like that always, that is really cool.
00:36:01
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:36:02
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
00:36:03
AstroDev
Yeah, but listen, the first omen man, I was I was like, I will watch. I will continue this when I'm not middle, when it's not two in the morning. And I decided to put it on like a fucking idiot.
00:36:15
AstroDev
But listen, there's a demon hand that
00:36:15
Twin Cheaks
Was did it freak you out at least?
00:36:18
AstroDev
Ah, yeah, yeah, actually.
00:36:20
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.
00:36:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Did you ask if there was bestiality?
00:36:23
AstroDev
No, he said, did it freak you out?
00:36:25
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, that's the fifth freaked out.
00:36:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:36:26
AstroDev
Yo, Frisk. Frisk, you better kill.
00:36:28
Twin Cheaks
Well, was there a bestiality?
00:36:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:30
Twin Cheaks
We might as well just yeah might as well continue.
00:36:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Was there?
00:36:32
AstroDev
Nah.
00:36:32
GREASEDAPOLES
In either movie you watched.
00:36:35
AstroDev
No.
00:36:36
GREASEDAPOLES
All right.
00:36:36
AstroDev
Unless you count.
00:36:36
Twin Cheaks
Well, goddamn.
00:36:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, it's son of a bitch.
00:36:38
AstroDev
No.
00:36:40
AstroDev
No, there is not.
00:36:41
GREASEDAPOLES
All right.
00:36:41
Steve-O
Well, goddamn.
00:36:43
Twin Cheaks
Fuck.
00:36:43
GREASEDAPOLES
It's Deez Bisto.
00:36:44
AstroDev
I also officially i officially got to put some some good hours in the Silent Hill 2 remake.
00:36:45
Twin Cheaks
Fuck.
00:36:51
Steve-O
Where you at?
00:36:51
AstroDev
Okay.
00:36:52
Twin Cheaks
Leah, how far did you get?
00:36:54
AstroDev
I met Eddie and I am currently in the other realm.
00:36:59
Twin Cheaks
He's not fat enough.
00:37:00
AstroDev
Currently in the other realm.
00:37:00
Twin Cheaks
So that's that's you should stop.
00:37:02
Steve-O
No, I they gave Eddie a weird like his face is so fat, but his body is like
00:37:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Did you see?
00:37:07
Twin Cheaks
His face is fatter than his body. His face is fatter than his body.
00:37:10
AstroDev
Listen, listen, the cutscene I saw, he was vomiting in a toilet the whole time.
00:37:11
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:37:14
AstroDev
So I didn't really like, honestly, if we're critiquing how fat or not.
00:37:17
Twin Cheaks
You like it, Devin?
00:37:18
Steve-O
He does he does the grossest.
00:37:18
AstroDev
Yeah. and
00:37:20
Steve-O
i I really do like that game. I thought it was a pretty good remake.
00:37:23
GREASEDAPOLES
You played it?
00:37:23
AstroDev
Oh, you, you beat it.
00:37:25
Steve-O
I didn't beat it. I got pretty deep into it.
00:37:27
AstroDev
ah How far did you get? Cause I got to, I saw the pyramid head.
00:37:29
Steve-O
I'm at the hotel.
00:37:30
Twin Cheaks
cause yeah Yeah, Devin asked me and I was like, oh I beat it back in 2001 so i mean god of Did you get to the part did you get to the part?
00:37:30
AstroDev
but seen Yeah.
00:37:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Ah, ah, ah, ah. Got him. Got him.
00:37:34
Steve-O
yeah I mean, yeah, I did that too, but I got to the hotel on it.
00:37:37
Steve-O
Um, Eddie does one of the grossest things I've ever seen in the game. And, uh, it's, he eats ice cream out of a bucket with his hands and it's, yeah, but he does it.
00:37:43
AstroDev
and okay
00:37:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, come on.
00:37:46
AstroDev
Okay Yeah, dude i've would uh I guess I did not you know why because i'm not fucking a hater dude.
00:37:47
GREASEDAPOLES
I do that all the time.
00:37:48
Steve-O
He does it at a movie theater.
00:37:52
Twin Cheaks
Did you get to the part where James opens the gate? With his face like I think I was
00:37:58
Steve-O
Oh, when he just like face first into things.
00:37:58
GREASEDAPOLES
ah
00:37:59
Twin Cheaks
Did you just not notice it? Yeah, did you just not notice it?
00:38:05
Twin Cheaks
You had a fucking pure negative hate.
00:38:05
GREASEDAPOLES
ah be I'll be real, John.
00:38:05
AstroDev
He's supposed to play in the game Yeah, dude
00:38:06
GREASEDAPOLES
That's not a that's not a bug. That's a feature.
00:38:10
Steve-O
but combats The combat's very visceral in it, which I really like.
00:38:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Not a bug. It's a feature.
00:38:13
AstroDev
Yeah, I will. Like what I dig is ah I just. I feel like I haven't died yet, but I feel like I'm doing it bad, badly, like fucking two hits and you're you need to take some health and the game's not really.
00:38:29
AstroDev
Throwing that stuff at you.
00:38:31
GREASEDAPOLES
It's rival.
00:38:31
Steve-O
Oh, you're gonna be injecting stuff and and constantly like, pulling up.
00:38:31
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
00:38:33
AstroDev
No, I mean, I have been. That's the problem is like I'm constantly I hit a point where I was like, I have six health, but then like six. um
00:38:40
Twin Cheaks
Can you change the difficulty in that game? I forget.
00:38:42
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, you can. You can. Actually, what's what's interesting when i no I haven't died yet, but I'm just constantly on that line where I'm like.
00:38:45
Twin Cheaks
So change it, Devin. You know, if you're a big shot.
00:38:50
Steve-O
you're no You're doing good.
00:38:50
Twin Cheaks
Have you wait, have you even seen Pyramid Head?
00:38:51
Steve-O
that's that You're actually doing pretty good, Devin.
00:38:53
Twin Cheaks
Have you even seen Pyramid Head yet?
00:38:54
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, I saw pyramid head.
00:38:55
Steve-O
You've gotten to the apartments.
00:38:56
Twin Cheaks
OK.
00:38:56
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, I got to know.
00:38:56
GREASEDAPOLES
Did Art the Clown show up yet?
00:38:58
AstroDev
So like right after that pyramid head scene, that's when you like jump into the other building and then you're in like the other.
00:38:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Because I saw that YouTube video.
00:39:03
Twin Cheaks
Right.
00:39:06
AstroDev
But like that's kind of where I'm at. And those those guys like fart when you shoot them twice. ah But what's really what I really like so far, one, play that game of headphones, please.
00:39:20
AstroDev
Because it's fucking like I know, but like this horror game specifically, right?
00:39:21
Twin Cheaks
Play every game with headphones, fuck.
00:39:25
AstroDev
Like it's it's nighttime.
00:39:26
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
00:39:28
AstroDev
I'm alone. Like Jenny's asleep or just no one's home. I have fucking headphones on and I'm walking in fog and I hear the radio crackle and I'm like, oh, boy.
00:39:37
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, it that's a cool thing, right? Yeah, you're just like, oh, no.
00:39:40
AstroDev
And you know what I really like, and i'm in I say like, Oh my God, this game's so original, right? But I don't know if this was in the original game, right?
00:39:46
Twin Cheaks
Don't even go there.
00:39:48
AstroDev
But when you have the little leg people, like the up leggies, um,
00:39:52
Steve-O
The leggies, yeah, uppers.
00:39:54
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
00:39:56
AstroDev
Like they'll run and they'll just like hide in a corner, like basically trying to look like a mannequin. And if you see them and aim your gun at them, they just scurry away if you don't shoot them quick enough, which is very like, oh, God, fuck, especially because they hit you twice and you're in fucking in the red.
00:40:14
AstroDev
And I'm like, motherfuckers.
00:40:15
Steve-O
They jump me so often.
00:40:16
AstroDev
Oh, yeah, those things ah are.
00:40:18
Steve-O
I'll just walk down an aisle and then just like, out of nowhere, just a pair of legs punches me.
00:40:23
AstroDev
Yeah, and I don't like again, it's like I think I was very afraid to use any ammo.
00:40:24
Steve-O
Can you excuse me?
00:40:29
AstroDev
So I'm just like I hit him twice like with my bullets and then I just beat them to death and then they get up sometimes and.
00:40:37
Steve-O
See, I go Resident Evil mode, where I go for the kneecaps and once they're on the ground, I just wail on them with the pipe.
00:40:42
AstroDev
Yeah, they they do. Yeah, I just I haven't I've only just now got above like 20 bullets.
00:40:49
Steve-O
Mhm.
00:40:49
AstroDev
because you get all these bullets and then if you like, you find like 10 clips and then you're like, oh, I must have a lot of ammo. And then you realize like there are two bullets a clip and you're like, oh, I have eight bullets after two hours of play in the game.
00:40:58
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:41:04
AstroDev
Sick. Now, man, I'm I'm definitely vibing pretty hard with this game because I've never officially put any real time into

Gaming Impressions: 'Silent Hill 2' and GTA Series

00:41:13
AstroDev
the original. So. But what I did find interesting, John, is if you do change the difficulty level, the language of the puzzles change.
00:41:23
AstroDev
They get more obtuse.
00:41:23
Twin Cheaks
What do you mean the language?
00:41:25
AstroDev
Like if you put it like on difficult, like the most difficult, like the language is really obtuse.
00:41:26
Steve-O
Mm hmm.
00:41:28
Twin Cheaks
Oh, like the but the puzzles. OK.
00:41:30
Steve-O
Yeah, like the the riddles and stuff change.
00:41:31
AstroDev
Yeah. And if you, yeah, on easy, it's just like put the coin near the green guy.
00:41:35
Twin Cheaks
ah oh okay
00:41:36
Steve-O
Yeah, it's like one, two, three, four, five.
00:41:37
AstroDev
and
00:41:39
Steve-O
Well, this one's like it's making you like the puzzle I remember it on is it makes you describe a death.
00:41:43
Twin Cheaks
Okay How did it how did they usually do that in games Like in God of War like in God of War like if you change the difficulty do the puzzles change at all or no Right that's weird interesting
00:41:47
Steve-O
Just in general.
00:41:48
AstroDev
I don't. As far as I know, no, like, that's why I guess it kind of stood out to me because I was like, well, this is interesting.
00:41:57
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:41:58
AstroDev
Yeah. He'll. Yeah. But yeah, I was doing the coin puzzles, the email.
00:42:03
Steve-O
Yeah, that coin puzzle's like real wild.
00:42:06
AstroDev
And then when I found out, which I thought was neat. Old news to you guys, probably. But I was like, because like one the last question in the puzzle is like, whose fault is the man, the monster?
00:42:15
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:42:17
AstroDev
And then. I was like, I picked one and it was right. But I was like, what happened? and I looked it up and they're like, well, that changes the ending. And I'll say, Oh my God, I'm already there.
00:42:26
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:42:28
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, did do they did they keep all that stuff from the original like everything that changes the ending Like if you bump in the Maria um if you bump in the Maria too many times does it change the ending in this one?
00:42:32
AstroDev
i
00:42:33
Steve-O
I think there's like some like new stuff that they kind of mess with stuff. Yes. Yes. If you, if you, I don't want to spoil things for Devin, but there's, there's the one where if she is in the hospital and you revisit her, it changes the ending.
00:42:43
Twin Cheaks
So lame It's kind of that some of the stuff is kind of weird and lame, I think, but no.
00:42:57
Steve-O
Um, yeah.
00:42:57
Twin Cheaks
Interesting.
00:42:57
AstroDev
OK.
00:42:59
Twin Cheaks
So they really do keep it as close to the original as possible, I guess.
00:43:03
Steve-O
I mean, they were handed a God script. They like, you know, they definitely changed a few things here and there, but.
00:43:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, you got to get the dog ending though. and I know, but that's your main focus.
00:43:11
AstroDev
I got.
00:43:11
Steve-O
Well, he's got to beat the game first in order to get that.
00:43:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Get that dog ending.
00:43:17
AstroDev
So John, John, here's a nice example right on and this is it's just like a stanza, right, that you're reading, but.
00:43:20
Twin Cheaks
yeah Yeah.
00:43:24
AstroDev
On easy difficulty, the man drew his blade and she froze in fear, for she did not know the serpent drew near." Right? And then it's like, put the coins somewhere.
00:43:34
Twin Cheaks
Right, right, right.
00:43:35
AstroDev
On difficulty, this is the stanza. Uh, his blade strikes that which from the roots doth rise, fellowed followed by guilt and the mark of demise.
00:43:46
Twin Cheaks
That's actually kind of cool.
00:43:46
AstroDev
The life he once had, he has left behind where once there was love, now a stone resides. So I thought that was really neat and.
00:43:53
Twin Cheaks
That's weird. Yeah, that's that's actually kind of cool that they that they change that for the.
00:43:57
AstroDev
Yeah. I don't know, you know, I don't know.
00:43:59
Twin Cheaks
um Yeah, because, you know, you don't see you don't see them.
00:44:01
AstroDev
I did.
00:44:03
Twin Cheaks
People change. You don't see games change stuff like that with the difficulty usually just means like the combat and the, you know, enemies, enemies, bullet sponges or whatever.
00:44:06
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:44:07
Steve-O
Usually it's just combat.
00:44:10
AstroDev
Oh, actually, yeah, you know where I'm at right now, Steve, specifically because I was like, oh, fuck is ah I found the radio with all the chains on it.
00:44:19
Steve-O
and Oh, okay.
00:44:24
AstroDev
And I undid the one chain and then a bunch of fucking monsters attack me. And I'm literally in a room where I'm about to do it again. And I'm like, I got mentally prepared myself.
00:44:34
Steve-O
Yeah, you're about to get jumped again, 100%.
00:44:34
AstroDev
but Yeah. So just kind of like, oh let me put this down a little bit.
00:44:41
AstroDev
But yeah, man, the game's a game of the year, probably, I think.
00:44:44
Steve-O
Sounds like you would have been a fan of the game back in the day too.
00:44:47
AstroDev
Probably, but I don't like the perspective because it's for babies.
00:44:52
Steve-O
Well, that's, you know, we're going to get so many letters.
00:44:53
GREASEDAPOLES
wow
00:44:54
AstroDev
I'm just I'm just kidding God.
00:44:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Bye, Tim.
00:44:59
Steve-O
Bite him.
00:45:00
GREASEDAPOLES
He's gonna write like 80 letters.
00:45:02
Steve-O
And he's got to stamp them with candle wax and.
00:45:04
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:45:06
AstroDev
Steve, what are you?
00:45:07
Twin Cheaks
i am I bought Grand Theft Auto 4 and 5 and installed them, but I didn't start them yet.
00:45:07
AstroDev
ah Yeah, John, what are you even doing?
00:45:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Whoa, I know.
00:45:14
AstroDev
OK.
00:45:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Slow down there.
00:45:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Great, the thought of four and five?
00:45:20
Twin Cheaks
That's all I did. Well, they were on sale on Steam.
00:45:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Four is a Nicobelic, right?
00:45:24
Twin Cheaks
they were like It was like, that's what Liberty City is for, right?
00:45:27
AstroDev
Yeah, they go.
00:45:27
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:45:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay.
00:45:29
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, New York, California.
00:45:30
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:45:31
Twin Cheaks
What's 5?
00:45:32
Steve-O
Five is um Los Santos.
00:45:34
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:45:35
Twin Cheaks
So it's always going to get GTA three to. But like everybody's saying that it's like it runs like ass now like on um on PC, so.
00:45:42
AstroDev
Honestly. Yeah.
00:45:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, can't imagine that being good.
00:45:47
AstroDev
And even trying trying to play this games anyway, like they're just not modernized, so it's like it's more pain than it's worth, dude.
00:45:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Whoa!
00:45:52
Steve-O
Mm hmm.
00:45:53
Twin Cheaks
but But somebody, dude, somebody fucking somebody recreate like I was I think it was some ordinary gamers was talking about it, somebody recreated GTA three. In the rage engine for GTA five.
00:46:06
Twin Cheaks
and like it runs like really well like it there's some you know quality of life weird shit in there but like it like runs really well and like plays really well but then rockstar fucking nintendo and then the whole argument is like and there's like one guy or like one or two guys that did it so it's just it's just like just fucking pay them and then let them remaster your game and and charge money for it like it's really not that hard to do
00:46:17
GREASEDAPOLES
There was, there's one aspect of three that was cool is that the
00:46:27
GREASEDAPOLES
there was there's one aspect to three that was cool is that Like the missions are really open-ended. So you can do like a lot of things to complete a mission.
00:46:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Like you don't have to do the thing that you are like, if it's like a sniper mission, you don't really have to use a sniper rifle. You could blow up the car or you can, you know, like there's more than one way to skin a cat in, in Grand Theft Auto.
00:46:51
Twin Cheaks
Right.
00:46:52
Steve-O
Yeah, it was simpler. So like achieving the objectives were simpler.
00:46:55
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:46:58
Steve-O
I remember there was a mission ah in Vice City where it was like, there's going to be like a helicopter and it's going to drop off a guy on the top of this building. And they they want you to do a sniper em mission from across the other building.
00:47:12
AstroDev
Oh man, yeah.
00:47:13
Steve-O
And I remember being like, screw that. And I drove a heck in like dirt bike up there and I just ran the guy over with my dirt bike.
00:47:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, there's like that shit that I kind of miss a little bit.
00:47:25
Steve-O
Yeah, when they added in Grand Theft Auto IV, the DLCs in GTA IV added this.
00:47:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Have a nice.
00:47:32
Steve-O
They added the like stars of like how you completed the mission.
00:47:37
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:47:37
Steve-O
And that ah that always peeved me, because it's it it's just this like thing in my head where it's like, no, you played the game wrong in the developer's eyes, which I don't think a Grand Theft Auto game should ever have.
00:47:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Yeah. Open-endedness in missions is part of the fun of those games.
00:47:54
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:47:55
Twin Cheaks
I think that that might be a strength in Red Dead 1 that you didn't have in Red Dead 2, I think. Because in Red Dead 2, it's like you do it's not like you do something wrong, but like if like, you know, somebody gets hit in the leg or something, then it's like mission failed.
00:48:13
Twin Cheaks
Right.
00:48:13
Steve-O
There's a lot of beats in those missions where if it goes a little bit of skew.
00:48:14
Twin Cheaks
But yeah, because it's I guess there's like a balance, like like ah a tug and ah tug of war between like narrative and, you know,
00:48:25
Twin Cheaks
open world that they have to like wrestle with, you know?
00:48:26
AstroDev
Yeah, I feel like yeah I feel like Red Dead 2 was a lot of like you you can either go in loud or stealthy.
00:48:26
GREASEDAPOLES
open-ended gameplay.
00:48:33
AstroDev
And that's it's just that's as far as it went, where they're just like, oh, I thought we were going to be quiet.
00:48:33
Twin Cheaks
Right.
00:48:37
Twin Cheaks
yeah Yeah.
00:48:38
AstroDev
And then you just keep going. And that kind of.
00:48:41
Twin Cheaks
Why did you go why did you sound like Sadie here?
00:48:43
AstroDev
Because it's like Dutch, like Dutch yelling at you.
00:48:43
Twin Cheaks
You did did your Sadie voice.
00:48:45
AstroDev
Yeah. God damn it, Arthur.
00:48:48
Twin Cheaks
God damn it, Arthur.
00:48:49
Steve-O
God damn it, Arthur.
00:48:51
AstroDev
Arthur, you motherfucker. Yeah.
00:48:54
Twin Cheaks
But yeah, I like, I don't know. I still think, you know, I should I play, I should play four and five, I guess.
00:49:01
GREASEDAPOLES
You've never played four or five?
00:49:03
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:49:03
Twin Cheaks
Never play them.
00:49:04
Steve-O
I'd say play five. Like I think four.
00:49:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I'd say five.
00:49:06
Twin Cheaks
Don't play four. Dude, Metacritic has four like top five ah of all time, bro.
00:49:13
Steve-O
Four is.
00:49:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Four is a very serious story, like way more than...
00:49:15
Steve-O
Yeah, four.
00:49:16
Twin Cheaks
I like that.
00:49:17
GREASEDAPOLES
ah All right, you might you might like four story more than five.
00:49:17
Twin Cheaks
I read that he's my favorite game ever. So I like serious stuff.
00:49:23
Steve-O
I think the the the gameplay in five is, you know, above and beyond four, but definitely like the like the the aspect of like coming to Liberty City and like, you know, having like a fresh start is like, it's yeah, it's...
00:49:36
GREASEDAPOLES
The
00:49:39
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I mean, that stuff doesn't really that stuff kind of stuff doesn't really um sway me either way, because, you know, I played Red Dead one and two back and forth like right after the other and they're completely they feel they feel completely different.
00:49:51
Steve-O
The cars drive like ass in four though.
00:49:53
GREASEDAPOLES
That's true. Yeah, the car is driving.
00:49:55
Twin Cheaks
Is it worse than cyberpunk? Like is it is it better than cyberpunk, though?
00:49:57
Steve-O
Yes.
00:49:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, here's the deal.
00:49:59
Twin Cheaks
Like.
00:50:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Acceleration doesn't matter in Grand Theft Auto 4. Every car accelerates the same way, and you get the slippiness that you get in Cyberpunk. Like, the yeah you're driving on ice.
00:50:12
Twin Cheaks
ah Like you lose control the car like you oversteer or whatever all the I figure I figure with four I Figure with forum.
00:50:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, Like, it's weird. Nothing, nothing, there's, the cars aren't, like, balanced. Like, how some cars are faster than others. Like, that doesn't, the 4s are really not like that.
00:50:28
Twin Cheaks
um I might just try to just mainline it I might just try to Steve Oteri read dead to it and just not Yeah, just go for the story missions and then go through it go through it that way See that you see
00:50:32
Steve-O
Just go for the story missions.
00:50:37
GREASEDAPOLES
You're not gonna go bowling with your cousin?
00:50:39
Steve-O
Niko, let's go bowling.
00:50:41
Twin Cheaks
See, you say shit like that, and I'm like, oh, man, well, now now I really want to play this.
00:50:46
GREASEDAPOLES
ni go we go bowl
00:50:46
Twin Cheaks
oh So we'll see. I mean, the um I looked up the the times, and they weren't that long, like the how long the beat.
00:50:56
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:50:57
Twin Cheaks
Like GTA IV, I think it was like 30 hours, um if you mainline it, which isn't that bad.
00:51:04
Steve-O
That makes sense.
00:51:05
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
00:51:06
Twin Cheaks
um
00:51:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Five's a big one, though.
00:51:08
Steve-O
Five is a big apple.
00:51:11
GREASEDAPOLES
That's like 50 hours?
00:51:11
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, for for it says 27 hours if you Steve material and then if you Devon coat if you go towards Devon Copac over the spectrum then it's 74 hours Yeah, did that the debit even Devon Copac GTA for No, David Stacy material GTA for okay
00:51:21
AstroDev
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:51:23
Steve-O
It's funny because I, Devin Kopecht, GTA4,
00:51:30
AstroDev
I didn't bother with any of those fucking birds.
00:51:33
Steve-O
Devin Steve O'Teary, GTA 4.
00:51:36
AstroDev
I don't I wouldn't say Steve Oteri GTA for I just didn't fucking try to get every bird.
00:51:42
Twin Cheaks
It's the same. It says this basically the same for GTA 5.
00:51:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Evan, you're not a GTA fan, I assume, right?
00:51:45
Twin Cheaks
It says 30 hours or 80 hours.
00:51:48
AstroDev
I must hate it. Yeah. No, I like GTN.
00:51:50
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, no, I'm just, I'm really asking, right?
00:51:52
AstroDev
and No, I'm a fan.
00:51:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Honestly.
00:51:53
AstroDev
Yeah. I like GTA. um I just like, I was just kind of.
00:51:55
GREASEDAPOLES
You do? Oh, okay.
00:51:58
Twin Cheaks
Chris is like, well, why didn't you fucking Steve Devon, go back to the game then?
00:52:02
GREASEDAPOLES
No, I'm not saying that.
00:52:02
Twin Cheaks
Like, why didn't you? I've always said stay with theory.
00:52:04
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm just curious.
00:52:05
AstroDev
No, but like.
00:52:05
GREASEDAPOLES
Cause like I have, I have, I have like sort of weird feelings about GTA and like, I don't love it or hate it.
00:52:06
Steve-O
Oh my God.
00:52:11
Twin Cheaks
Like, what?
00:52:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Like it's kind of in the middle.
00:52:14
AstroDev
I like enjoyed my time with GTA four and five, but I was like, this is not as nearly as revolutionary because like three was right.
00:52:15
GREASEDAPOLES
five Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:15
Twin Cheaks
Well, that's why I never played them.
00:52:24
Steve-O
Yeah, the, the jump to third 3d.
00:52:25
AstroDev
And then like, yeah, and then I felt like ah San Andreas was like, as far as you go right with that.
00:52:32
Twin Cheaks
See, I really want to play that.
00:52:32
AstroDev
And then they're saying.
00:52:33
Twin Cheaks
That's the one I want to play. They're they're never going to remaster that game.
00:52:37
AstroDev
I mean, they did.
00:52:37
Steve-O
See, John, here's the thing.
00:52:37
AstroDev
They did bad.
00:52:39
Steve-O
You would love Vice City.
00:52:42
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:52:43
Twin Cheaks
That's the only thing I would love to play that too, especially before six.
00:52:45
Steve-O
Vice City is just driving around in this like wild, like everything has these like beautiful neons and you got these awesome 80s songs playing on your car radios.
00:52:56
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I believe I think I was like I think I was watching Joe Siler play play that when it came out. So.
00:53:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Also, like, my favorite voice acting in any of those games, pants.
00:53:05
Steve-O
That was when they were like, oh, we can hire actual actors for games. We can do that.
00:53:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Ray Liotta kills it.
00:53:10
Twin Cheaks
Oh, Ray Liotta is in my city.
00:53:10
GREASEDAPOLES
Fuckin' James Woods, as awful as he is, is really good in that.
00:53:14
Twin Cheaks
oh No, you know, I can't play it can't play it now can't play it.
00:53:17
Steve-O
Yeah, hold on.
00:53:17
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:53:17
Steve-O
I want to look up the past.
00:53:17
Twin Cheaks
Sorry. I'm gonna leave that I'm leaving the theater after looking it up when I'm DB I'm leaving the theater Sorry James Woods What
00:53:22
GREASEDAPOLES
it's not Yeah, he's pretty despicable. But he's good in that, man.
00:53:27
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:53:29
GREASEDAPOLES
i have
00:53:29
AstroDev
He's a good voice actor, man.
00:53:30
Steve-O
Dennis Hopper.
00:53:30
GREASEDAPOLES
he He's a Dennis Hopper isn't that shit?
00:53:30
AstroDev
Sorry.
00:53:33
Steve-O
Mm-hmm. He plays the um the movie director guy.
00:53:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Holy shit, dude.
00:53:37
AstroDev
Oh, yeah.
00:53:37
Steve-O
Burt Reynolds is the mayor, I believe.
00:53:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh my God. Yeah.
00:53:41
Steve-O
Louise Guzman?
00:53:42
Twin Cheaks
Wow, dude, they didn't do Rockstar as a fuck around it.
00:53:43
GREASEDAPOLES
Luis Guzman. Well.
00:53:45
Twin Cheaks
They really they really they really triple A their triple A titles, huh?
00:53:49
AstroDev
Yeah. But like, but like playing those games is just it's very antiquated at this point.
00:53:50
GREASEDAPOLES
That one was awesome.
00:53:55
Steve-O
Yeah, dude it's it's really hard.
00:53:56
GREASEDAPOLES
Sure.
00:53:57
AstroDev
Almost like maybe he's finding YouTube video.
00:53:59
Steve-O
I um and don't see those.
00:53:59
Twin Cheaks
Like we're like like older than like the the you're talking about GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas, right?
00:54:05
AstroDev
Yeah, it's like they're all I just feel like and I might say like they're too hard because if we all beat.
00:54:05
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:54:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's true.
00:54:11
AstroDev
Well, I beat them back in the day. It's just like.
00:54:15
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't think I beat Santa.
00:54:17
Steve-O
I didn't beat San Andreas.
00:54:17
AstroDev
it
00:54:18
Steve-O
I got so I got to the like the gang turf wars at the end and it just got too hard.
00:54:21
Twin Cheaks
That's the people say that's the longest one.
00:54:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:54:24
Twin Cheaks
Like that's like the longest one.
00:54:25
Steve-O
It is dude.
00:54:25
AstroDev
It is. Yeah.
00:54:26
Steve-O
You'll try to do the zero missions in the toy store and you'll just have a
00:54:28
AstroDev
Well, that's, that's the thing. The zero missions taught me, uh, you don't have to do everything. Like some of these are just bullshit.
00:54:34
Steve-O
Oh, dude, those missions were impossible.
00:54:36
AstroDev
Yeah. I mean, they're famously bad too. Like they're literally, I think they actually fix that in the remit.
00:54:41
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:54:41
GREASEDAPOLES
No, wait, I did beat San Andreas. I remember the ending.
00:54:43
Steve-O
You beat San Andreas?
00:54:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I remember the ending.
00:54:44
Steve-O
Dude, I never did. It was, I got to the part where I'm spinning the plates at the end to try and gain the turf back.
00:54:45
AstroDev
It's Shannon Grace.
00:54:49
Steve-O
And every time I would like get a piece of turf across town and I'd go to the other one, that piece of turf would get taken over again.
00:54:55
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, yeah, I remember all of that.
00:54:56
AstroDev
Listen, listen, the only reason I beat those games, to be fair, though, is because they let you put codes in and you were still able to save your game.
00:54:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:55:04
Steve-O
codes were fun. Codes were really fun.
00:55:06
AstroDev
but Because like, yeah, I'm like.
00:55:07
Steve-O
They didn't have achievements back then.
00:55:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I did that a lot.
00:55:09
AstroDev
Yeah, because they're they're fucking horseshit, dude, like some of those missions are bullshit. But like, I remember very like famously, I was playing San Andreas and then you get to a point where you got to get your pilot's license.
00:55:25
AstroDev
And it's literally like the fucking driver. Remember that game driver where you got to like, just, it's like that level of difficulty, but with a plane.
00:55:28
Steve-O
Mm hmm.
00:55:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:55:30
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
00:55:33
Steve-O
Do those planes are playing mission.
00:55:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh man.
00:55:34
AstroDev
And I just, I kept failing it.
00:55:34
Steve-O
Yeah, I remember What do I do now
00:55:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Flying mechanics have never got are never good in any of those cases.
00:55:37
AstroDev
Yeah, but like I kept failing and I put that game down. I'm not kidding. I think like three years. I just picked it up one day. It was like, I was just in one of my gaming laws and I was like, never beat this.
00:55:48
Twin Cheaks
I'll finish this.
00:55:49
AstroDev
And then I just fucking, I spent like a half a day and I did it. And I was like, Oh, fuck, I've never gotten this far. Like, let me just keep let me just keep playing it. And then I was like, oh, hell yeah.
00:56:02
Steve-O
I think I remember you letting me take a whack at it and I'm like, I can't even do this again.
00:56:02
AstroDev
can
00:56:05
AstroDev
It's too fucking hard, man. Yeah, it's it was obnoxious. um And like to ask you, put up such a gnarly roadblock.
00:56:13
Steve-O
a And it was like a mission you had to do.
00:56:14
AstroDev
Like probably that. Yeah, it's like literally to get back. It's like the thing you've got to do to, I think, get back to Like your hood, like it's like the beginning of the third act.
00:56:26
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:56:27
AstroDev
And I was just like, is fucking horseshit like can't fucking do it.
00:56:30
Steve-O
ah You know what, at least you got to play that game, unlike Driver, because you were right. That fucking first Driver mission, oh you have to make sure you get this ah perfectly timed like parking lot, like turning, drifting, you can't hit anything.
00:56:36
GREASEDAPOLES
Awful. The tutorial.
00:56:42
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:45
GREASEDAPOLES
i think I think there were passwords in driver and you could use a password to skip to the first level.
00:56:52
AstroDev
But you know, the problem was though, Chris, it's like, that game's too hard for you to play.
00:56:53
GREASEDAPOLES
And I think I did that.
00:56:57
Steve-O
Yeah, after the after after that point I was done.
00:56:57
GREASEDAPOLES
I know, I know.
00:56:58
AstroDev
Like and you you kind of need, you kind of need to know how to fucking do that stuff.
00:56:59
Twin Cheaks
yeah
00:57:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, no, there's a lot of there's a lot of tight turns I remember in that first mission.
00:57:05
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:57:06
Steve-O
ah
00:57:06
AstroDev
I can't like, that is one of those things, man.
00:57:07
GREASEDAPOLES
It's tough.
00:57:08
AstroDev
That must've been like the invention of fucking game testing.
00:57:13
Steve-O
And it was like, hey, maybe we shouldn't have this weird, like, IDO parking lot, like, feature.
00:57:13
AstroDev
where
00:57:19
Steve-O
That's the thing. We might, if that mission wasn't in that game, Driver might be the Grand Theft Auto we're talking about today.
00:57:23
Twin Cheaks
Yeah. Mmm.
00:57:26
Steve-O
But unfortunately, they fucked up their first mission and made it impossible for everybody. So now we're living in the Grand Theft Auto universe.
00:57:34
AstroDev
That's all it took. ah Yeah.
00:57:37
Twin Cheaks
Man, that sucks.
00:57:38
Steve-O
I wanna, you know what, I wanna speak.
00:57:38
Twin Cheaks
but no pride They'll probably never remaster those, right?
00:57:42
Steve-O
Probably not.
00:57:42
AstroDev
Driver now.
00:57:44
Steve-O
I don't even know who owns those anymore. I thought it was Ubisoft at one point, but.
00:57:47
GREASEDAPOLES
wub wub wub wub
00:57:47
Twin Cheaks
No, I meant GTA 3.
00:57:49
AstroDev
Oh.
00:57:50
Twin Cheaks
They'll never update those again, right? No.
00:57:53
AstroDev
No, I mean, like that who knows?
00:57:53
Steve-O
oh They got a sloppy port job.
00:57:55
AstroDev
But like the main issue, frankly, was like they just they hired outside, right? It's like a third party. Yeah. Real sloppy porkch job dude pork job, job.
00:58:04
Steve-O
but They had the cars that got fatter when you wiggled them.
00:58:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, but ah that was so funny.
00:58:07
Steve-O
yeah
00:58:07
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:58:09
GREASEDAPOLES
The ass would just get bigger and bigger. I was like, how did this, how did any, how did this go by? Like, this is so simple. You would think they would see this immediately.
00:58:17
Twin Cheaks
Because at least we're we're getting Max Payne one and two, that's kind of cool.
00:58:20
Steve-O
But it's that's being remade by Remedy. like That is Remedy proper making those games.

Remakes and Replays: Max Payne and Red Dead Redemption

00:58:27
Twin Cheaks
That's a good thing, right?
00:58:28
Steve-O
that's Yeah, because they made they made it originally.
00:58:28
AstroDev
Yes.
00:58:29
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, they made it originally.
00:58:30
Steve-O
like They got the blessing from Rockstar.
00:58:31
Twin Cheaks
They're they're the ones that did um Alan allen Wake.
00:58:35
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:58:35
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:58:35
AstroDev
Alan way can control that other one we don't talk about.
00:58:35
Twin Cheaks
They've been Alan Wake. Oh, so that that's going to be.
00:58:39
Steve-O
Those are going to be bangers.
00:58:39
Twin Cheaks
That's going to be good.
00:58:40
Steve-O
a
00:58:40
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, that's going to be good.
00:58:42
Steve-O
Um, they recently re-released on multiple platforms, Sims one and two. And it was like a surprise drop, the originals.
00:58:50
Twin Cheaks
Like the originals.
00:58:53
Steve-O
And, uh, I bought them, I played them for a little bit. And, uh, let me just say, no, like I made characters, I booted up and I went.
00:58:56
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, you smash you smash you smash.
00:59:03
Steve-O
Oh yeah, we've had great advancements in games. That's why it's always hard to go back to like old games from that era.
00:59:06
Twin Cheaks
Oh.
00:59:06
AstroDev
and
00:59:08
Twin Cheaks
to all games, yeah.
00:59:09
Steve-O
Cause like those little niceties that they add to games really do make things better.
00:59:16
AstroDev
Yeah, the weapon wheel is a fucking game changer, and that's not it. It's not in the games.
00:59:21
Steve-O
You need a weapon wheel.
00:59:22
Twin Cheaks
Oh yeah, how do you do that and in the the old GTAs?
00:59:24
AstroDev
You just L2 R2, I think, until you found your fucking gun.
00:59:26
Steve-O
You scroll through, yeah.
00:59:30
AstroDev
And then it and then it fucking controlled like dog shit comparative. Like, yeah. Yeah.
00:59:36
Steve-O
Yeah, it wasn't until Grand Theft Auto 5, where it has the Max Payne 3 shooting in it.
00:59:37
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, because when did GTA 3 come out? yeah
00:59:44
AstroDev
Yeah, we're basically, yeah, exactly, exactly.
00:59:46
Twin Cheaks
2001 was GTA 3.
00:59:48
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:59:50
Twin Cheaks
So that was what you would call it. ah b r e four That was before Resident Evil 4 changed how shooting works in games like that, I guess.
00:59:55
Steve-O
I think it was... Yeah. Because... Resident Evil 4 came out 2004?
01:00:05
Twin Cheaks
2005, 2005, I think.
01:00:05
Steve-O
2005? Because San Andreas came out 2004, so.
01:00:07
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:00:12
Twin Cheaks
OK. And not that those games are like strictly like over the shoulder third-person shoes, but like you know everything everything.
01:00:18
Steve-O
No, the thing though is like even Grand Theft Auto IV, the shooting's not great in it.
01:00:22
Twin Cheaks
Right.
01:00:23
AstroDev
Yeah, I remember being like, Oh, yeah, this is not optimal. Because like, when was GTA a four?
01:00:31
Steve-O
It was 2007.
01:00:32
AstroDev
In 2007.
01:00:34
GREASEDAPOLES
wow
01:00:34
Twin Cheaks
Well, I mean, even Red Dead. gun plays and like I wouldn't say it's like top of the line, but maybe it's because those those are old.
01:00:40
Steve-O
They redid the system though, like...
01:00:41
AstroDev
No, no.
01:00:43
Twin Cheaks
Those are old guns.
01:00:43
AstroDev
But like, so like, but I'm just saying, like, by the time GTA a four came out, like Gears of War had come out and I was like,
01:00:45
Twin Cheaks
Those are old fucking goods.
01:00:48
Steve-O
Mm.
01:00:50
AstroDev
bro like this is how yeah this is how you fucking do this and uh
01:00:51
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, you're like, this is this is how I want to play that those kind of games. Yeah, that's how I want to play. Yeah.
01:00:55
GREASEDAPOLES
i think I think my initial feeling about Red Dead 2 when I went into it, I think I beat Grand Theft Auto 5 before I played Red Dead 2.
01:01:05
Twin Cheaks
Oh, you're like burned out.
01:01:05
Steve-O
Mm.
01:01:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah! And I was like, I can't keep doing this.
01:01:09
Twin Cheaks
man Go back to it Chris. It's only $15 right now on Steam Maybe I'll just fucking buy it for you, and then you just play whatever whenever you get whatever you want Yeah, yeah, just you know ah I got a big backlog too How
01:01:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Maybe. I don't know. I'm gonna play Sekiro next game.
01:01:19
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm playing Sekiro next.
01:01:21
AstroDev
See, you know, I'll be honest, it's the one thing that I really miss about, about not being in this PC little fucking circle jerk is like, no one can offer to buy me anything.
01:01:21
GREASEDAPOLES
ah That's the one I really wanted.
01:01:29
Twin Cheaks
is that we buy we buy games for each other I
01:01:32
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm gonna go on my PlayStation 5 to buy you something You can't
01:01:34
AstroDev
Hey Steve, can you mail me a PlayStation gift card?
01:01:36
Steve-O
You can't you can't Like PlayStation they don't let you do it's so weird when things don't let you give things now.
01:01:39
AstroDev
So thanks.
01:01:41
GREASEDAPOLES
You can't
01:01:45
Steve-O
I'm like man I Can't be nice.
01:01:47
GREASEDAPOLES
be nice Sony's
01:01:49
Steve-O
I can't give somebody something. It's like you're losing money.
01:01:51
GREASEDAPOLES
not nice. They're fucking Sharks
01:01:53
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I think they have a real talk. I think Red Dead 2 is going to be my my Lord of the Rings.
01:01:57
AstroDev
Oh, there are some people that do that shit.
01:01:58
Twin Cheaks
Like it's going to be like maybe I play it every year, you know, just keep it fresh in my mind.
01:02:00
Steve-O
I Oh.
01:02:03
AstroDev
Like you could literally just do a run where you just want to become the legend of the West.
01:02:03
Twin Cheaks
I know.
01:02:09
Steve-O
Be a little cowboy man.
01:02:10
AstroDev
Yeah, I forgot you can buy all that shit after you're, you know, later.
01:02:10
Twin Cheaks
I want that.
01:02:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Tiny cowboy man.
01:02:12
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, after yeah, after you as a as John, and you can you can buy all that shit.
01:02:16
AstroDev
Because I never bothered earning it because it's such a fucking pain, dude.
01:02:21
Twin Cheaks
Well, that's what I was saying is like that's what I was saying on discord I'm like I would really like to platinum this game, but I hope no fight I don't know if I'm built that way because Even like Red Dead one to platinum that shit like you have to do a bunch of random shit online Like on and like nobody plays nobody plays it anymore Yeah, and that's why like I appreciate and again forgive me for fuck glazing again, but like I appreciate
01:02:28
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:02:36
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:02:36
Steve-O
Mm.
01:02:36
AstroDev
that's I mean, that's like almost impossible at this point.
01:02:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh my god.
01:02:48
Twin Cheaks
like from software and what they did with Elden Ring and with the DLC, they didn't just tack on achievements to get. They're just like you already fucking did it with the first game with the original. So like just fucking just here, go get your fucking dick bit off now and don't worry about that other stuff. oh And even like the the platinum for Elden Ring isn't like. um It's not like they don't have impossible random shit that, you know, that is like really like situational.
01:03:17
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:03:18
Twin Cheaks
Like go on a fucking go rob a bank with eight of your friends and nobody gets hit once and nobody heals like shit like that. Like stuff like that is like kind of stupid, you know.
01:03:27
AstroDev
Yeah, well, thank you, Pete.
01:03:30
Twin Cheaks
So I don't know.
01:03:31
AstroDev
Yeah, I don't blame you. Now, it's just like you just go hunting, you know, just just have a game where you just instead of getting that one, ah you know, some money back from that one guy, just just be a hunter.
01:03:41
Twin Cheaks
That's my plan, man. Just don't it's just don't see fucking Mr. dad Thomas Downs at all.
01:03:47
AstroDev
Yeah, i just don't bother.
01:03:47
Twin Cheaks
And then. I just live, you know, and in the camp for 800 hours.
01:03:52
AstroDev
You know, it's funny. I watched. I watched. a video I didn't realize this, but you know how if you go to New Austin immediately, like you will get fucking murdered.
01:04:01
Twin Cheaks
Oh, yeah, you'll get fucking torched.
01:04:02
AstroDev
Well, and i didn't I was looking it up and apparently if you get past like the initial because you can get to a point where you get past a certain point down there.
01:04:02
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:04:10
Twin Cheaks
Do there's like 30 bounty hunters that chase you every time.
01:04:12
AstroDev
No, no, there's literally there's literally an invisible sniper. That will fucking just kill you. It's just the game just auto kills you.
01:04:19
Twin Cheaks
Oh,

YouTube Algorithms and Content Influence

01:04:20
Twin Cheaks
really? It's like a it's like a fuck. That actually pisses me off. That actually makes me mad.
01:04:23
AstroDev
Now what some people have done though, if they're like, if you get a wagon with a cover on it and you drive and you ride at a certain angle, it will just hit the wagon.
01:04:25
Steve-O
No.
01:04:34
AstroDev
But even then you got to stay at one particular angle.
01:04:37
Twin Cheaks
There's fucking Bradley Bradley Cooper is just sitting in a fucking sniper's nest in New Austin and trying to just snipe you.
01:04:41
AstroDev
Yeah. And then and then what kind of yeah, this guy, this guy, it's just like a video game bullet that comes from the sky.
01:04:45
Twin Cheaks
That's weird.
01:04:48
AstroDev
Right. But then what this guy was doing it and then he fought he's like, all right, fuck it. I'm just going to go into one of the train tunnels and I'm just and the bullet was just passing through the train tunnel.
01:05:00
Twin Cheaks
It went through.
01:05:00
AstroDev
And he's like, fuck it. It's a fucking ball.
01:05:02
Twin Cheaks
Really?
01:05:03
AstroDev
Yeah, like he was like, this is just video game impossible.
01:05:06
Steve-O
It just like spawns on your head.
01:05:08
Twin Cheaks
That's what people have been just doing in the game now, just trying to break it still.
01:05:10
AstroDev
Yeah. Well, you know, I fell down a little bit.
01:05:12
Twin Cheaks
It's crazy.
01:05:13
AstroDev
My algorithm was certainly changed a little bit. I'll admit it. I'll admit it.
01:05:19
Twin Cheaks
All right.
01:05:20
AstroDev
But.
01:05:20
Steve-O
Dude, you look up one Bellatro thing. Everything on your feed suddenly becomes Bellatro.
01:05:24
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:05:25
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:05:25
Steve-O
Same with other games. You can't you can't not escape it.
01:05:29
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, just like, uh, what was that?
01:05:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh.

Actors We Love and Avoid: A Group Discussion

01:05:31
Twin Cheaks
The four horsemen of, uh, movies you'll never watch that.
01:05:33
GREASEDAPOLES
ah I was just thinking about that, John.
01:05:34
AstroDev
Oh, yeah.
01:05:35
Steve-O
Oh.
01:05:36
GREASEDAPOLES
I was just thinking about that. I have i have my four.
01:05:39
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:05:42
Twin Cheaks
Dude, I can't, maybe you guys can like.
01:05:42
AstroDev
I forgot we were, I forgot what you were talking about.
01:05:42
GREASEDAPOLES
I have my four.
01:05:46
GREASEDAPOLES
I was thinking about it for a while for some reason.
01:05:48
Steve-O
All right, if we want to, we can do like a collective, we can do individual like, you know, I don't think like, you know, if somebody has one where they can do it all and be like, these are my four.
01:05:48
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know why.
01:05:50
AstroDev
I think, I think it gets good too.
01:05:58
GREASEDAPOLES
I think, I think it should be personal.
01:06:01
Steve-O
Okay.
01:06:01
GREASEDAPOLES
I think that makes it better to be honest.
01:06:05
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:06:05
GREASEDAPOLES
Cause like this stuff, yeah, obviously there are the ones, the obvious ones, right?
01:06:05
Twin Cheaks
Uhhh...
01:06:09
GREASEDAPOLES
But like, I think it tells more about you. If you got your, your four year, like, Oh,
01:06:13
AstroDev
know
01:06:15
Steve-O
you know I don't know if there's many people in like modern movies that like push me away.
01:06:20
GREASEDAPOLES
ah oo I got something.
01:06:22
AstroDev
I have three I have three and I'm trying to see if I can figure out.
01:06:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, I'll go first. I know, I know a minor.
01:06:28
Steve-O
yeah Let me hear, let me hear, Chris.
01:06:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay. So I got two women and two men.
01:06:32
AstroDev
Oh, OK.
01:06:34
GREASEDAPOLES
All right. So I keep an affair, keep an affair. All right.
01:06:36
AstroDev
Hmm.
01:06:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, my first is Dakota Johnson. She's, she's my one that I'd be like, all right, I'm not going to watch that.
01:06:44
AstroDev
So if you saw like a thriller that looked kind of interesting, but then it's like Dakota Johnson's the lead, you're like, I'm out.
01:06:48
GREASEDAPOLES
I'd be like, Oh, that can't be good.
01:06:50
Twin Cheaks
really
01:06:51
GREASEDAPOLES
i can't She just can't pick a script to save her life. Um,
01:06:55
AstroDev
OK.
01:06:56
GREASEDAPOLES
My second would be Sandra Bullock. I am.
01:07:00
AstroDev
That's OK. That actually tracks, because you do hate.
01:07:03
GREASEDAPOLES
I do not like Sandra Bullock.
01:07:04
AstroDev
Yeah, you do not like her at all.
01:07:06
Steve-O
My mom's gonna be pissed Chris
01:07:06
GREASEDAPOLES
I.
01:07:09
GREASEDAPOLES
I was like.
01:07:11
AstroDev
America's moms are furious with you.
01:07:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Can't stand her at all. um My third is Gerard Butler. Outside of one movie, I think if I see him in a movie, I'm like, oh, that's going to be dog shit.
01:07:20
AstroDev
Ah, OK.
01:07:24
GREASEDAPOLES
There's no way that's not.
01:07:25
AstroDev
I heard those those weird cop movies that he's in, where he's an asshole are kind of fun. and I don't know.
01:07:31
Twin Cheaks
It was was Dakota were the worthy was Dakota Johnson any movies that you liked besides like social social social network Suspiria
01:07:36
GREASEDAPOLES
No, not really you can't think I can't think of a single one like I could think art social network, but she does have like a bit part She was in the Suspiria remake but like so I don't think she I Listen listen listen listen listen
01:07:37
Steve-O
You're a big Madam Webhead, right?
01:07:42
AstroDev
but She's like a.
01:07:44
Twin Cheaks
wasn't she in the Suspiria remake to was she like a big role in that or no?
01:07:47
AstroDev
Oh.
01:07:50
AstroDev
John John's poking holes in this one real good No, I agree with you I agree with you
01:07:53
Twin Cheaks
Well, I'm trying it I've tried to defend by my hottie my hottie toddy Devin
01:07:58
GREASEDAPOLES
gerard Gerard Butler, Gerard Butler has, is in 300.
01:08:01
Twin Cheaks
I love Dakota Johnson.
01:08:01
GREASEDAPOLES
I really like 300. I think 300 is great. But every time I see him now, I'm like, Oh, fuck no.
01:08:04
Twin Cheaks
OK.
01:08:07
GREASEDAPOLES
I am not interested in anything he's making.
01:08:10
Twin Cheaks
OK, so it's like if you see it, if you see they're in something now.
01:08:10
Steve-O
a
01:08:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Like I think, you know, most of these people probably have one movie that's good, but like now
01:08:15
Twin Cheaks
Right.
01:08:19
Steve-O
They're like warning signs me worried I would be like
01:08:19
Twin Cheaks
So if Dakota Johnson's in, if she's in the the new Robert Eggers werewolf movie, you're just going to pass. You're going to pass.
01:08:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh wow.
01:08:28
Twin Cheaks
Well, I guess there's there's like there's exceptions, I guess, right?
01:08:30
GREASEDAPOLES
We'll see. We'll see. We'll see if that even happens.
01:08:32
Twin Cheaks
What do you You're going to want it, dude. Robert, this is day one, day zero, right?
01:08:35
Steve-O
Why?
01:08:36
Twin Cheaks
I thought he's day zero.
01:08:36
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, we'll see.
01:08:36
Steve-O
but but But why couldn't why couldn't Robert Eggers get anybody else? Like, that's a wording sign.
01:08:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's really, that is a warning sign.
01:08:40
Steve-O
and
01:08:42
Twin Cheaks
No, because I feel like then I feel like a lot of people maybe possibly felt the same way you feel about Dakota Johnson, felt that way about Lily, Lily Rose, that too, right? Because she wasn't in anything that was good, right?
01:08:51
GREASEDAPOLES
I never, um well, she hasn't been in a lot of things. Dakota Johnson has been in a lot of shit. So now I'm my, when I see her, I'm like, Oh no, like why you could have done so much better. What what what have what have we done here?
01:09:05
Steve-O
It is pretty interesting.
01:09:06
Twin Cheaks
i'm trying I'm trying to think, Mark.
01:09:06
Steve-O
Cause like Tarantino dusted off a bunch of people who were like kind of dead Hollywood wise.
01:09:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, yeah, but after a while, you know, like Travolta was like a decade before he had work.
01:09:13
Twin Cheaks
I don't even even know.
01:09:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:09:14
Twin Cheaks
like it's just i'm just trying to I'm trying to think.
01:09:15
Steve-O
After a while though.
01:09:17
Twin Cheaks
like like chris is chris' Chris went deep like cerebral with it, but like I'm just trying to think of actors that I just don't like looking at.
01:09:19
AstroDev
I found four. I found four.
01:09:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, I have one more. I have one more. I have one more after George Butler. And that's this one's kind of surprising. Maybe.
01:09:33
AstroDev
Oh, OK.
01:09:33
Twin Cheaks
Mel Gibson.
01:09:33
GREASEDAPOLES
It's Eddie Redmayne.
01:09:36
Twin Cheaks
What? Oh, no.
01:09:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Do not like Eddie Redmayne. I haven't liked him in anything I've seen him in.
01:09:40
Twin Cheaks
ah
01:09:42
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't understand why people like that guy.
01:09:43
AstroDev
I haven't liked him except I didn't watch that one movie where he like apparently like legitimately earned that Academy Award that he got like.
01:09:50
Twin Cheaks
What, the Stephen Hawking movie?
01:09:54
AstroDev
No, I thought it was like the one where he dresses up like a woman.
01:09:55
Twin Cheaks
Oh, the the the the trans one.
01:09:55
GREASEDAPOLES
No, that was just... No, no, no. He won the award for the theory of everything.
01:09:59
Twin Cheaks
Danish girl, Danish girl.
01:10:00
AstroDev
Oh, yeah, Danish girl, but all right.
01:10:01
GREASEDAPOLES
He won the award... He won the award for a theory of everything.
01:10:05
AstroDev
OK.
01:10:05
GREASEDAPOLES
That's Stephen Hawking.
01:10:05
Twin Cheaks
but Which that's the Stephen Hawking one, right?
01:10:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:10:07
AstroDev
Yeah, all right.
01:10:07
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:10:08
AstroDev
Well, yeah.
01:10:10
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't like him.
01:10:10
Twin Cheaks
Eddie Redman, has he been in a lot of stuff?
01:10:10
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't get him.
01:10:13
AstroDev
I mean, he was in, so he's in those prestige and then Fantastic Beasts where I really didn't like him in those.
01:10:13
Twin Cheaks
I feel like he...
01:10:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Not really.
01:10:17
Steve-O
Fantastic.
01:10:17
Twin Cheaks
Oh, yeah.
01:10:17
Steve-O
Mr. Beast.
01:10:19
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:10:21
GREASEDAPOLES
He just turns me off. He's like annoying.
01:10:23
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:10:24
AstroDev
Don't like the way he looks.
01:10:24
GREASEDAPOLES
so about him. It just annoys the fuck out of me. And oh, there was one movie in particular that really annoyed me, his performance in particular.
01:10:28
Twin Cheaks
ah
01:10:33
AstroDev
Jupiter sending.
01:10:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, dude.
01:10:34
AstroDev
Yeah, these really.
01:10:35
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah look
01:10:35
Twin Cheaks
What's that? What's that about? What's what's that movie about?
01:10:38
GREASEDAPOLES
That's a Wieckowski Brothers science fiction film, where it it's so over the top and stupid.
01:10:43
Twin Cheaks
Oh, I remember now yeah.
01:10:47
GREASEDAPOLES
um And his performance is just like he's constantly whispering.
01:10:51
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:10:51
GREASEDAPOLES
And it's just it's like nails on the chalkboard for me. I just
01:10:54
AstroDev
Yeah, it's a weird choice that just like never seemed good in the first place.
01:10:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, dude.
01:11:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's that's my four.
01:11:04
AstroDev
I got four or five, dude, I may add any red man, but, uh, Steven Seagal.
01:11:05
GREASEDAPOLES
All right, what do you got? Jesus Christ.
01:11:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay, good pick, good pick.
01:11:13
AstroDev
I just as a kid, I didn't like him. I was like, this guy stinks. He's boring.
01:11:18
Steve-O
Your dad instilled that into you.
01:11:18
Twin Cheaks
Steven Seagal, no.
01:11:19
AstroDev
Yes, it's a girl. Uh, Sean Penn, I just, there's, I do not like him.
01:11:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay, yeah, you don't like that guy.
01:11:27
AstroDev
He just seems like such a dickhead.
01:11:29
GREASEDAPOLES
He's got a big catcher's myth of a face nowadays, too, right?
01:11:32
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:11:33
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, but you didn't and you didn't like ah you don't like under siege as a kid with the titties, the girl coming out of the cake.
01:11:33
AstroDev
Uh,
01:11:38
AstroDev
I would, but ah John, what does that have to do with Steve Zagova? That's my point.
01:11:42
GREASEDAPOLES
You know, Tommy Lee Jones is far better in that movie than Steven Seagal.
01:11:46
AstroDev
Yeah, anybody. Yeah. Uh, I mentioned, you and I mentioned my earlier, but just a Smith, I just like, dude, I don't know.
01:11:51
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:11:53
AstroDev
He's just, again, he always just seems like he's like, yeah, he's just, and he's been, I saw the TV glow and Too cool to be here.
01:11:55
Twin Cheaks
Who's Justice Smith? That's the guy from the Detective Pikachu or whatever? Is that the guy?
01:11:59
GREASEDAPOLES
He's in a salty mood.
01:12:01
Twin Cheaks
Wait.
01:12:03
GREASEDAPOLES
You know what he does?
01:12:04
Twin Cheaks
Justice.
01:12:04
GREASEDAPOLES
He does have kind of like a... Kind of like he always talks like this in every movie.
01:12:11
Steve-O
what wood wo water what do want
01:12:12
GREASEDAPOLES
um Guys, so...
01:12:13
AstroDev
Oh, forward
01:12:14
Steve-O
He was in ah the D and&D movie, right?
01:12:16
AstroDev
Yeah, and he's the worst part of that movie.
01:12:19
Steve-O
Yeah, but he's playing like a nerd in that movie, so.
01:12:21
AstroDev
No, but that's it's like he always just there's a smugness to his performance.
01:12:22
Steve-O
It fits.
01:12:24
Twin Cheaks
I can't even think of people that I don't like.
01:12:26
AstroDev
And I don't like him. And then the last one, which I think I might just being rude because I don't think I ever gave him the shot, but I just I didn't like the look of him. And I didn't like the one movie I tried to see.
01:12:37
AstroDev
And that's Richard Gere.
01:12:39
GREASEDAPOLES
you like
01:12:39
Steve-O
What was the movie?
01:12:40
Twin Cheaks
You didn't like first night?
01:12:40
AstroDev
I tried. I did. I tried.
01:12:42
Twin Cheaks
You didn't like first night?
01:12:43
AstroDev
I tried to watch the man prophecies and I like this.
01:12:43
Twin Cheaks
You're psycho.
01:12:45
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah no
01:12:45
Steve-O
Oh, I see.
01:12:46
AstroDev
Thanks. It stinks, dude.
01:12:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Hold on hold on hold on I will suggest one Richard Gere movie that you might want to try I Would suggest primal fear with Edward Norton and him I think that movie is the best Richard Gere movie I've ever seen hands down
01:12:48
Twin Cheaks
You're like your psycho, psycho.
01:12:52
AstroDev
Yeah. It's the only one I feel like I'm being a bit of a dick about.
01:12:54
Twin Cheaks
First night just watch first night, dude Not an officer and a gentleman or what what is that what it called?
01:13:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Nah, I fucking...
01:13:08
GREASEDAPOLES
That is as a mellow drama. Officer and a gentleman.
01:13:08
Twin Cheaks
What is that?
01:13:10
Twin Cheaks
I can't think I don't like I hate hate fucking I hate Gwyneth Paltrow, right?
01:13:12
AstroDev
Okay.
01:13:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Ooh, good pick, good pick.
01:13:15
Twin Cheaks
I hate fucking Josh Hutcherson.
01:13:17
AstroDev
I thought they were all going to be women.
01:13:19
Twin Cheaks
I hate PETA. I hate fucking PETA. I hate PETA
01:13:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Ooh, good pick. That guy's got a weird face.
01:13:24
Twin Cheaks
i don't know why I don't even know what he's in. that Everything I've seen of him was Hunger Games, and I hated him in all those movies.
01:13:29
GREASEDAPOLES
His face is too small for his head.
01:13:30
AstroDev
Oh,
01:13:31
Steve-O
Mm.
01:13:32
Twin Cheaks
and i can't I can't even think of anybody else.
01:13:35
Steve-O
I got one.
01:13:35
Twin Cheaks
I love everyone.
01:13:36
Steve-O
I can only think of one right now. And that's Amy Schumer.
01:13:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Amy Schumer.
01:13:41
AstroDev
ah man.
01:13:43
GREASEDAPOLES
That's a good pick.
01:13:44
Twin Cheaks
i was good i would I would say John Cena, but he was really funny in that Amy Schumer movie.
01:13:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Good pick.
01:13:49
Twin Cheaks
he was really funny in
01:13:49
AstroDev
John Cena is really good in, I think, every movie I've seen of him.
01:13:52
Steve-O
I like Peacemaker to Peacemaker's fun.
01:13:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, PC's so good in Peacemaker.
01:13:54
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:13:55
Twin Cheaks
um
01:13:56
AstroDev
Yeah, actually, if you said John Cena, you would have three dudes yelling at you, John.
01:13:56
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh.
01:14:00
AstroDev
I'm glad you didn't do that.
01:14:01
Twin Cheaks
Because a lot of the movies I really hate aren't really like the actors fault, you know Like I don't hold man of steel against Henry Cavill or Amy Adams, you know These are just like actors you just don't like right you just don't like to see
01:14:06
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:14:09
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, no, no, no, that me either.
01:14:09
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:14:11
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, but I think these are just like personal grudges.
01:14:16
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:14:17
Steve-O
it was It was funny because every time I remember seeing a Shia LaBeouf movie, I remember being like, ooh, it was Shia LaBeouf from Star Wars.
01:14:17
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:14:25
Twin Cheaks
I like Shia LaBeouf, though.
01:14:26
Steve-O
What's his name? um Kylo Ren, what's that actor?
01:14:27
AstroDev
Harrison Ford.
01:14:28
Twin Cheaks
Uh, Kylo Ren.
01:14:30
AstroDev
Oh, yeah, Steve, you had, yes, you've had a vendetta.
01:14:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Adam Driver?
01:14:31
Twin Cheaks
Adam Driver.
01:14:32
Steve-O
I remember going on a rant about Adam Driver.
01:14:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, you don't like Adam a Driver, really?
01:14:36
Steve-O
Well, this is, keep in mind, ida only at this point, I only known Adam Driver from Boys.
01:14:41
AstroDev
No, no, you're talking about girls.
01:14:41
GREASEDAPOLES
From what?
01:14:43
Twin Cheaks
Girls?
01:14:43
AstroDev
ver
01:14:43
Steve-O
Girls, girls, girls, girls.
01:14:44
Twin Cheaks
You're talking about girls.
01:14:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, girls.
01:14:44
AstroDev
yeah
01:14:45
Twin Cheaks
Wow!
01:14:47
Steve-O
I had a 50-50 shot with that one.
01:14:47
Twin Cheaks
um The boys! What? You fucked that up, dude. You failed. You lost.
01:14:53
Steve-O
yeah But ah all I remember is just he'd always be shirtless and I was like, he's got such a little rat face.
01:14:55
Twin Cheaks
Oh my god.
01:14:57
AstroDev
I feel, you know, I feel like that was like, that, that was like Steve just like having a rough go in the dating scene.
01:15:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, wait, Frankie Muniz.
01:15:04
Steve-O
Frankie Muniz, all right.
01:15:06
AstroDev
All right.
01:15:06
Steve-O
You know what?
01:15:06
GREASEDAPOLES
I forgot.
01:15:06
Steve-O
We're putting a list together. But that's the thing.
01:15:08
AstroDev
All right.
01:15:08
Steve-O
The problem, though, is Adam Driver really won me over. Because I was like, you know, he was kind of the best part in some of those Star Wars movies. Like, yeah, he is a very good actor.
01:15:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he's a good actor, man.
01:15:18
Steve-O
And you know what?
01:15:19
Twin Cheaks
No, I think I like Adam Driver, actually.
01:15:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I do.
01:15:21
Twin Cheaks
I'm a fan of him.
01:15:21
Steve-O
I kind of had the same turn with Shia LaBeouf where, like, a lot of the time I was like, oh, I hate that guy. He's such a such a dweeb. And then, like, you know, I'd see a movie and I'm like, well, he's not the worst part of these movies.
01:15:29
GREASEDAPOLES
He, yeah.
01:15:31
AstroDev
Yeah, he's he's pretty good, actually. He's a psychopath, but he's still pretty good.
01:15:34
Steve-O
Yeah, he's a psychopath, but like he is not the worst part of the Transformers movies.
01:15:38
GREASEDAPOLES
No, ah he's really good in Fury too. Like there's, he's got some good performances.
01:15:43
AstroDev
I'm trying to see if there's a female act actress that...
01:15:43
GREASEDAPOLES
But yeah, there is something about him though, man.
01:15:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, you can listen to all dudes, Devin.
01:15:51
AstroDev
I know.
01:15:52
GREASEDAPOLES
That's not fair.
01:15:52
Twin Cheaks
Devon you hate her let's all what white dude I Hate her but like she's in when she's in mood, but she's but she's in movies that she's in movies that I like though That's a thing But I really but I really don't like her as a person fucking royal tenon bombs
01:15:53
AstroDev
I know, I'm trying to...
01:15:54
Steve-O
Yeah, I remember Devin.
01:15:55
GREASEDAPOLES
You misandrist.
01:15:56
AstroDev
I'll be honest, as Gwyneth Poucher is a pretty decent bit, but I like, I really...
01:15:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that is a hell of a pick.
01:16:00
Steve-O
Ooh, that's a really good pick.
01:16:00
AstroDev
I liked her.
01:16:00
GREASEDAPOLES
That's a hell of a pick.
01:16:04
AstroDev
You know what I liked her in what I liked her in.
01:16:04
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean to dude. Me too.
01:16:08
AstroDev
I liked her in shallow howl, dude. I'm not going to lie. I thought that was a fun movie and she's fun in that.
01:16:15
Steve-O
That's 20 years ago.
01:16:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Who's?
01:16:17
AstroDev
Hey. Hey, I get to pick one, right?
01:16:20
Steve-O
I know. I'm not being silly.
01:16:22
GREASEDAPOLES
There's that one. This is an older female comedian who made fun of Andy Rector. Oh, what the hell is her name? I hate her so much.
01:16:29
Twin Cheaks
Oh, is it Kathy Griffin?
01:16:29
AstroDev
yeah
01:16:31
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, Cathy Cruz. I don't mind Cathy Cruz.
01:16:33
Steve-O
You made fun of Andy Richter.
01:16:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Um.
01:16:33
AstroDev
Oh fuck. Who's that? Who's that old act? This is basically cheating.
01:16:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Fuck it.
01:16:39
AstroDev
Joan Rivers. She stinks, dude.
01:16:41
GREASEDAPOLES
You know what I'm talking about?
01:16:42
AstroDev
I've never liked Joan Rivers.
01:16:42
Twin Cheaks
Well, she's all- No, she's racist.
01:16:44
Steve-O
ah
01:16:44
Twin Cheaks
She's racist as hell too, so fuck her.
01:16:45
AstroDev
And she's dead.
01:16:46
GREASEDAPOLES
All right.
01:16:46
Steve-O
i mean she did
01:16:46
AstroDev
And she's dude.
01:16:48
GREASEDAPOLES
She is dead.
01:16:48
AstroDev
All right.
01:16:49
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, good.
01:16:49
AstroDev
All right.
01:16:50
Twin Cheaks
I'm glad she's dead.
01:16:50
AstroDev
Legitimately, not only is she dead, but when she died, a lot of people, like one of the only celebrities where a lot of people were like, yeah, no, I don't really have anything good to say about yeah like, oh, she was very
01:16:59
Twin Cheaks
Yeah. A lot of Filipino people were like, yeah, she hates us.
01:17:03
AstroDev
Yeah, people were like, yeah, no, I mean, she kind of like pioneered comedy, but she was also basically a horrible.
01:17:03
Twin Cheaks
So fuck her.
01:17:09
Twin Cheaks
She's also super racist and horrible.
01:17:10
Steve-O
I mean, she dead.
01:17:11
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:17:12
Steve-O
All right, now I'm gonna, this is gonna shake things up a little bit. Now I need a weirdo actor. When they show up in a movie and you don't expect them to, but you see them, you're like, oh, this is gonna get good.
01:17:25
Steve-O
Cause it's like a weirdo actor.
01:17:25
AstroDev
Oh, ah it's easily I easily it's the.
01:17:27
Steve-O
Cause I got one in my head and that's Tim Blake Nelson.
01:17:27
Twin Cheaks
Oh.
01:17:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Ooh, good pick.
01:17:31
AstroDev
OK.
01:17:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Good character actor pick.
01:17:33
Steve-O
ah
01:17:34
AstroDev
Yeah. Mine's, um,
01:17:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Uh, Chris Cooper for me.

Character Actor Appreciation

01:17:37
Steve-O
That's another good one.
01:17:38
AstroDev
Oh, mine's a fucking, Oh my God.
01:17:41
AstroDev
Let me look, uh, Jesse Plemons.
01:17:43
GREASEDAPOLES
Ooh.
01:17:43
AstroDev
I go, Oh yeah.
01:17:44
Steve-O
Okay.
01:17:45
AstroDev
All right. I'm sitting down for this one.
01:17:45
Twin Cheaks
Man fat Todd fat Todd I don't I don't I don't know if I I don't think I have one of those I'm not sure He's fat odd he's fat odd It's
01:17:45
Steve-O
Yeah, there you go.
01:17:47
AstroDev
Yeah. that that are that ah That's literally, I think his whole career.
01:17:49
Steve-O
That's odd.
01:17:53
AstroDev
is He's the guy that shows up and you're like, Oh, it's going to be good.
01:17:56
Steve-O
That's the thing. That's the thing, John, I guarantee you have one.
01:17:56
AstroDev
i
01:17:58
Steve-O
It's just you probably either A, you don't know the name of the actor, or B, they just don't pop your head until they show up.
01:18:03
Twin Cheaks
my mute It's my mutant gene.
01:18:05
Steve-O
but
01:18:06
Twin Cheaks
It hasn't it hasn't uh manifested yet. I haven't hit puberty yet to become a mutant so
01:18:11
AstroDev
yeah
01:18:12
Steve-O
You haven't had your your moment.
01:18:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:18:14
Steve-O
My secondary mutation.
01:18:15
GREASEDAPOLES
I guess, I guess if I were to pick a lady actress, a lady actress, that's redundant.
01:18:19
AstroDev
Yeah, I'm still trying to find a lady.
01:18:20
Twin Cheaks
oo a Lady oh, you know it's a meadows.
01:18:21
AstroDev
I'm trying to find a lady I fucking hate.
01:18:21
GREASEDAPOLES
Um,
01:18:21
Steve-O
I laid it.
01:18:22
Twin Cheaks
I'll give me 10 meadows Is she good is she mid now is she mid dog off now like what it was going on with her It's not worth her it's not worth her is it It's not worth me a goth of fucking physically attacking people on set now like it's she's not worth it anymore.
01:18:24
Steve-O
Oh, Tim Meadows is a really good one.
01:18:24
GREASEDAPOLES
um is Mia Gough? No.
01:18:29
AstroDev
Oh, wait.
01:18:29
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, I didn't really like Maxine too much.
01:18:37
GREASEDAPOLES
I guess Sophie, Sophie Thatcher, Sophie Thatcher at this point doing some good character actors.
01:18:45
Twin Cheaks
She's not that good
01:18:46
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know Maxine wasn't that good and she wasn't really that good in it either That was Yeah, I was thinking of like character actresses that if I see in a movie I'm oh great he's in this Okay, but is he is Is he like a weirdo though?
01:18:51
Twin Cheaks
Weirdo, weirdo actor.
01:18:53
AstroDev
Sophie fact, wait. Oh, you said, so Oh, like you've moved on to Sophie Thatcher. Is that what you said?
01:19:01
Twin Cheaks
Oh, you know what?
01:19:01
AstroDev
You're like, you don't like him.
01:19:02
Twin Cheaks
Timothy Chalamet.
01:19:04
Steve-O
Okay, all right.
01:19:05
Twin Cheaks
No, no, no, I if he's in a movie, I'm like, oh, it's probably a good movie.
01:19:08
AstroDev
Oh,
01:19:09
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, like I'm at that point now with him where I'm like.
01:19:10
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:19:14
Twin Cheaks
He might be a weirdo. I don't know.
01:19:15
GREASEDAPOLES
No, you know what Steve's saying?
01:19:16
Twin Cheaks
It's like.
01:19:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Like, like a, more like a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:19:18
Twin Cheaks
Oh, like an uncommon, like an uncommon actor? Okay.
01:19:21
Steve-O
it's
01:19:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Like somebody, like a character actor.
01:19:24
AstroDev
No.
01:19:24
Steve-O
They don't put them on the trailer or the poster.
01:19:25
Twin Cheaks
Oh, you know yeah what? You know what? Army Hammer. I'll to Army Hammer.
01:19:28
AstroDev
yeah yeah Yeah, actually, I'm not gonna lie.
01:19:28
Steve-O
so Okay, there you go.
01:19:29
Twin Cheaks
I'm just kidding. I'm not giving it to Army Hammer.
01:19:32
AstroDev
If army hammer shows up in the middle of me, I'm like.
01:19:33
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm gonna tell you something, John.
01:19:35
Steve-O
so
01:19:35
AstroDev
yeah
01:19:35
GREASEDAPOLES
He's been in two movies that I really love, so I gotta say, you're not, you're not, oh.
01:19:39
Twin Cheaks
And if and i'll I guarantee, Chris, when you watch Call Me By Your Name, it'll be three movies that you really love that he's in.
01:19:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:19:46
Twin Cheaks
I guarantee it. I'm not even fucking I'm not fronting Because like the first thing I the first thing I looked up after I watched that movie because I watched that movie late was I Googled is army hammer still canceled?
01:19:49
Steve-O
You're gonna be like god damn it just let this guy eat somebody
01:19:59
AstroDev
look
01:20:00
Twin Cheaks
I really because he was so he was so good at that movie. God damn it I Should have saved his career.
01:20:05
AstroDev
Chris, are you brave enough? Yeah. Are you brave enough to, uh, are you brave enough, Chris, to pick Elliott page?
01:20:08
Twin Cheaks
It should retroactively save his career To watch the Dark Knight movie no
01:20:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Elliot Page.
01:20:14
AstroDev
yeah Are you brave enough, Chris?
01:20:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, has she been, has he been at anything?
01:20:17
AstroDev
Uh, yes, but nothing anyone's seen.
01:20:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Really? Yeah.
01:20:21
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:20:23
GREASEDAPOLES
What?
01:20:23
AstroDev
That's the problem.
01:20:24
Twin Cheaks
Weirdo actor uncommon.
01:20:25
AstroDev
You know, no it's because, uh, he was just. They said they announced that he was going to be in The Odyssey, the new Christopher Nolan movie.
01:20:34
Twin Cheaks
Oh, yes, somebody state, it's just not somebody else that's in it.
01:20:35
AstroDev
And I was like, man, I think that was the last. Oh, the. abrupt Dude, actually, dude, actually, that might be mine, even though it's another dude.
01:20:43
GREASEDAPOLES
but
01:20:44
AstroDev
But like, because I really hated their work in fucking Umbrella Chronicles or Umbrella Academy, like.
01:20:54
Twin Cheaks
to Elliot Beige.
01:20:55
AstroDev
Yeah, they suck. Like, I was like, this is such an obnoxious character.
01:20:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Hmm.
01:20:59
AstroDev
I was not a fan.
01:21:01
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know if I'd say I
01:21:01
Twin Cheaks
just and They just announced Himesh Patel in The Odyssey and somebody tweeted, he's the only person in Ancient Greece that remembers who the Beatles are. And I was fucking dying.
01:21:14
Twin Cheaks
Because that's the only thing I know from that from that actor too.
01:21:16
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, like guys got nothing but that.
01:21:17
Twin Cheaks
That's the only thing I know of that guy.
01:21:19
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:21:21
AstroDev
Wait, so Chris you're watching the movie Vin Diesel shows up you're okay with it Yeah, Vin Diesel shows up.
01:21:25
GREASEDAPOLES
the diesel
01:21:27
AstroDev
You're like, oh good I mean like you Yeah what why
01:21:27
GREASEDAPOLES
like just shows up out of nowhere.
01:21:31
GREASEDAPOLES
That's kind of interesting, I guess. If he just like, if he wasn't listed in the credits and he's just like, ah you need help with that time machine. He just shows up.
01:21:44
Steve-O
Vin Diesel shows up in Oppenheimer.
01:21:44
GREASEDAPOLES
ah no Like if he's playing a really weird character or something, like a small little character piece, maybe.
01:21:52
AstroDev
Okay,
01:21:53
GREASEDAPOLES
i i I'm not saying he's a good actor, but like,
01:21:55
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I don't know man.
01:21:57
AstroDev
man, I had an issue.
01:21:59
Steve-O
he's ah He's a very like certain tool for a movie.
01:22:02
AstroDev
Okay.
01:22:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, exactly.
01:22:03
Steve-O
Like if, I don't want to cast him as a leading actor, but if Vin Diesel shows up as like a man who used to be a bird, like I'm in.
01:22:08
GREASEDAPOLES
He has something weird or something, yeah, like...
01:22:13
Steve-O
Oh, which guys to spell on me. I used to be a bird.
01:22:17
GREASEDAPOLES
That's fine, like that. If it's like a small little role where he just talks about what it's like being a bird, like that's...
01:22:23
Steve-O
I used to be able to fly.
01:22:26
AstroDev
Oh, who's um I Like oh when he shows up, yeah, that's that's a good yeah
01:22:28
GREASEDAPOLES
I was gonna say Mark...
01:22:28
Twin Cheaks
What about what about that? What about the guy that plays?
01:22:29
GREASEDAPOLES
I was gonna say Mark Wahlberg.
01:22:30
Twin Cheaks
What about Walton Goggins?
01:22:31
GREASEDAPOLES
He was also in there.
01:22:32
Twin Cheaks
What about him?
01:22:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, that's, he's a good pick.
01:22:35
Twin Cheaks
Because he's not he's not in a lot of stuff.
01:22:35
Steve-O
That's a really, that's a, that's a phenomenal pick. That's a phenomenal pick.
01:22:37
Twin Cheaks
And he's ah and even if he's a minor role and he's just, you know, some random racist in Django, he's fucking awesome.
01:22:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:22:44
Twin Cheaks
And he steals the scene that he's in.
01:22:44
GREASEDAPOLES
No, you're right. I think he's a better...
01:22:46
Steve-O
He was in a, that, what was that show?
01:22:49
GREASEDAPOLES
What?
01:22:50
GREASEDAPOLES
What show?
01:22:50
Steve-O
The show with the school, with um vice principals he was in.
01:22:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, Vice Principals.
01:22:55
Steve-O
I really enjoyed him in that.
01:22:55
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:22:56
Twin Cheaks
Fucking righteous gemstones.
01:22:57
GREASEDAPOLES
He is so good in that.
01:22:58
AstroDev
I.
01:22:58
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:22:58
Twin Cheaks
Uncle baby uncle uncle baby Billy Yeah, like Jesus
01:22:58
GREASEDAPOLES
i will
01:22:59
AstroDev
Oh.
01:23:01
GREASEDAPOLES
He's, he's the best part of that show, man.
01:23:02
AstroDev
Actually, you know what, I finally found in a female actress. I say that like that's not what actors.
01:23:10
GREASEDAPOLES
That you hate or that you, that it's weird?
01:23:11
AstroDev
Yeah. none like No, no, like, you know, if they're if they show up and they're like the main character, I'm like, no, I'm passing on this one.
01:23:17
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, okay.
01:23:18
AstroDev
Betty White, dude, do not.
01:23:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Betty White?

Concerns About Movie Trailers

01:23:21
Steve-O
Betty White?
01:23:21
AstroDev
Yeah, because you know what?
01:23:22
Twin Cheaks
Why why you ain't up any white dog
01:23:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Why do you hate all women?
01:23:24
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah. but twenty You guys said pick a woman I I demand it No they often and Wait, who's the other woman?
01:23:27
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, why do you hate all women?
01:23:29
GREASEDAPOLES
No, old women.
01:23:31
Twin Cheaks
Nobody asked you to pick a woman. You said to yourself that you were gonna pick it.
01:23:33
Steve-O
yes Yeah, you've you've gone after two old dead women, Devin.
01:23:39
Steve-O
You've just joined a hark! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:23:42
Twin Cheaks
You said Joan Rivers.
01:23:42
AstroDev
Oh, yeah.
01:23:43
Twin Cheaks
Rivers.
01:23:43
Steve-O
Go Rivers.
01:23:43
AstroDev
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah You know, you know why Betty White specifically though because like
01:23:44
GREASEDAPOLES
You know why I can't stain Rue McAllen?
01:23:47
Steve-O
Ha ha ha ha ha.
01:23:50
GREASEDAPOLES
It stinks.
01:23:54
AstroDev
The only joke was like, Betty White says something like that.
01:23:55
Twin Cheaks
Fuck, dude.
01:23:58
AstroDev
You wouldn't expect an older lady to say. And that was the last 15 years of her life. It's like, oh, Betty White's got to hang out with Snoop Dogg. And it's funny, just inherently. And it's like, it's not.
01:24:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, Devin, you've never seen her own community, because she was hilarious.
01:24:09
AstroDev
It's not funny.
01:24:13
GREASEDAPOLES
She was their...
01:24:13
AstroDev
I fucking i guess.
01:24:14
GREASEDAPOLES
She was their anthropology teacher.
01:24:14
AstroDev
I guess that's why I skipped those seasons, Chris.
01:24:18
GREASEDAPOLES
She was drinking sheet pee in the middle of class.
01:24:21
AstroDev
Fine. I hate Glenn Close, Chris.
01:24:21
GREASEDAPOLES
It was hilarious.
01:24:22
AstroDev
is that Does that make you happy?
01:24:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Why are you getting close to someone?
01:24:25
AstroDev
I hate dangerous liaisons.
01:24:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Because they're all here.
01:24:27
AstroDev
Terrible for me.
01:24:29
Steve-O
She also played Cruella de Vil in the live action 101 Dalmatians. Okay, that brought it back.
01:24:29
AstroDev
I don't know. All right, I'm back on board. I'm back on board. Never rules, dude. Yeah.
01:24:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Like I, I, I tried to not pick actors that were yeah not talented. I just didn't particularly like them. You know, like I, that's the way I think about it.
01:24:48
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:24:49
AstroDev
I know. know it's Yeah, it's I'll be honest, that really did
01:24:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Like I could say Gal Gadot cause she's a bad actress, but like everybody knows she's bad actors.
01:24:55
AstroDev
Yeah, but it's also I feel like it's also a bit of like over saturation.
01:25:01
GREASEDAPOLES
A little bit.
01:25:01
AstroDev
Like I bet if this was a year or two ago, everybody would be like Chris Pratt. Careful staying that guy Chris.
01:25:07
Steve-O
like god He's playing every Italian.
01:25:08
AstroDev
But that guy, you know, he slowed it down a bit, which he needed to.
01:25:09
Steve-O
Mario Garfield.
01:25:12
Twin Cheaks
who's the Who's the anti Chris Pratt where he's in everything and everything he's in is good or she?
01:25:17
AstroDev
uh oh my god there was a guy like two years ago that i was like that's that's exactly him and i cannot think of his name now
01:25:19
GREASEDAPOLES
who
01:25:25
Steve-O
I mean, you can kind of say Keanu Reeves a little bit right now.
01:25:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Whoa. King Hari's is really good at picking the next big thing.
01:25:31
Twin Cheaks
Ryan Gosling, is he in everything now too?
01:25:33
GREASEDAPOLES
That's pretty good pick overall.
01:25:34
Twin Cheaks
He's good in it.
01:25:37
Steve-O
How we feel about Ryan Reynolds for that?
01:25:40
Twin Cheaks
He's just Deadpool now to me.
01:25:42
Steve-O
He is just, no, I kind of, I kind of agree.
01:25:42
Twin Cheaks
He's nothing else. He's nothing else.
01:25:44
Steve-O
Cause the thing is, it's like, I feel like Ryan Reynolds is like one fuck up away from me being like, get out of here. There's better Ryan's in Hollywood.
01:25:53
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:25:54
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:25:56
AstroDev
I mean, no, that's fair, like, to be honest.
01:25:59
Steve-O
I'll tell you who Hugh Jackman, I'll never get sick of that guy. He's a delight.
01:26:03
AstroDev
And that's a good one.
01:26:03
Steve-O
He's a national treasure.
01:26:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he's pretty great.
01:26:05
AstroDev
Yeah, even if I'm not interested, interested i'm he's Australian.
01:26:06
Steve-O
Not even our nation, but he is a treasure.
01:26:08
GREASEDAPOLES
He's a triple threat, man.
01:26:10
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:26:11
GREASEDAPOLES
He's on Broadway right now.
01:26:11
Twin Cheaks
Idris Alba.
01:26:13
Steve-O
Oh, he just Alba'd.
01:26:13
AstroDev
No, I don't like teachers.
01:26:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, Idris. That's a good one.
01:26:17
GREASEDAPOLES
like
01:26:17
Steve-O
You don't like he just Alba?
01:26:17
AstroDev
I'm just I'm just joking, guys.
01:26:17
Twin Cheaks
What?
01:26:18
GREASEDAPOLES
ah
01:26:19
Twin Cheaks
Fuck you, dude.
01:26:19
AstroDev
I'm just joking.
01:26:20
Twin Cheaks
Oh, dude, I was going to fucking fight you, dude, for real.
01:26:24
AstroDev
Yeah, you know where I live fucking find it find me John Google me You know John you ready to meet Pete and repeat cuz the people get your repeat will Yeah,
01:26:28
Steve-O
One, two, three, fuck me up street.
01:26:30
Twin Cheaks
Come, come catch this fade. Come catch his fate like actually this catch this fade.
01:26:35
Steve-O
Uh, Oh no, you're getting hit with the the adventures of Pete and Pete.
01:26:39
Twin Cheaks
Try to catch this fade.
01:26:40
AstroDev
hey John when you come at me, he's gonna be two sounds first sound me hitting you the second sound you hit the floor Come on.
01:26:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh boy.
01:26:48
AstroDev
Let's go You
01:26:48
GREASEDAPOLES
It's your dick hitting the dirt, dummy.
01:26:50
Steve-O
Oh, damn.
01:26:52
AstroDev
He hit in the deck. That's what I'm gonna say. I think it sounded like an old man.
01:26:55
Steve-O
You're gonna hear two slaps. You're gonna be here. The first slap is my hand hitting your face. The second slap is my balls hitting your ass.
01:27:00
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
01:27:00
AstroDev
Oh, whoa, whoa.
01:27:02
Steve-O
Better watch out.
01:27:02
AstroDev
That's like a dad.
01:27:04
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
01:27:04
AstroDev
That's a joke your dad's definitely said at the dinner table, Steve.
01:27:07
Steve-O
Now pass me the peace!
01:27:09
AstroDev
Yeah, your dad's yelled that joke a little too loud in a restaurant. You were like, dad, stop.
01:27:15
Steve-O
Sir, this is a TGI Fridays. You're gonna have to keep it down.
01:27:18
AstroDev
It's Pentagon, sir.
01:27:18
GREASEDAPOLES
lord Well, if that's our pick for actors we and actresses, we want to beat up.
01:27:19
AstroDev
You need to leave.
01:27:27
GREASEDAPOLES
And actors and actresses that we...
01:27:27
AstroDev
Yeah, I bet you I can fucking I need put give Richard gear run for his money at this point Dude Jared Butler is actually I think he's just become like a thick man.
01:27:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Ooh, Wreck is the Egg. George Butler might give me a run for my money. That guy's pretty jacked.
01:27:37
Twin Cheaks
Nice scary
01:27:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he would even beat me up.
01:27:43
AstroDev
He's done the Russell Crowe, I think
01:27:44
Twin Cheaks
Get ready, man.
01:27:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:27:45
Twin Cheaks
You guys better get ready for some really we're gonna have a golden age of Hollywood now because Sylvester Stallone Mel Gibson and who's the other guy?
01:27:52
GREASEDAPOLES
John Voight.
01:27:54
Twin Cheaks
John Boyd are in charge of making movies great again.
01:27:54
AstroDev
Oh my god.
01:27:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Three men that if I saw the movie, I would not go see that movie.
01:27:57
Steve-O
Wow.
01:28:00
Twin Cheaks
Oh Yeah, those yeah, those those are pretty good.
01:28:01
Steve-O
a
01:28:03
Twin Cheaks
Those are pretty good for now like right now like this day and age right now this in 2025 Those are good horsemen for sure
01:28:05
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, 100%. John Voight's last film, Megalopolis, I'm sure he's really riding the high on that one.
01:28:11
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:28:15
AstroDev
What could be mean by literally thought he was dead?
01:28:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he looks like it.
01:28:20
Steve-O
yeah
01:28:21
AstroDev
So ah I'm just, I'm still trying to get like, you wouldn't see Den of Thieves, Chris.
01:28:25
GREASEDAPOLES
No.
01:28:26
AstroDev
You wouldn't come on, man. What about that one? Everybody liked where he, he like made a robot that killed all these people. Cause he's super smart.
01:28:34
GREASEDAPOLES
ah fucking What the fuck are you talking about?
01:28:36
AstroDev
Uh, no, fuck.
01:28:39
GREASEDAPOLES
What the fuck are you talking about?
01:28:39
AstroDev
What was that movie, dude?
01:28:41
GREASEDAPOLES
Cowboy was in good movies like pre the 90s.
01:28:43
AstroDev
All biting citizen.
01:28:45
Steve-O
The best thing Jon Voight's ever done was have his name in a Seinfeld episode.
01:28:51
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, come on.
01:28:51
AstroDev
Uh, no, I'd say the best thing he's ever done is probably, uh, sire sire angel.
01:28:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Midnight Cowboy. And, or deliverance, like he's a good, he made good movies, but like everything after the late nineties is all crap.
01:28:58
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:29:06
Steve-O
Hmm, yeah, you're right.
01:29:07
GREASEDAPOLES
It's all crap.
01:29:08
AstroDev
yeah Yeah, exactly. It's not like their career has to be all bad. It's just look at a, you look at an act.
01:29:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Special slows and great movies. Mel Gibson is a great movies, but they're shitty now.
01:29:17
AstroDev
Yeah. Oh, Fucking Rocky, dude.
01:29:18
GREASEDAPOLES
They're all awful.
01:29:20
AstroDev
Well, you got to do that to me.
01:29:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Now I wanted her dude.
01:29:21
AstroDev
That would hurt. I'm not going to lie.
01:29:22
Steve-O
doubt yeah
01:29:23
AstroDev
I didn't like seeing that.
01:29:24
GREASEDAPOLES
He's probably going to run for mayor of like Florida or something.
01:29:26
AstroDev
It's just I didn't like knowing that, I guess he can feel how you want to feel. I just didn't know. Oh, I don't think Rocky. Never mind.
01:29:36
AstroDev
We don't need to get into it.
01:29:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:29:39
AstroDev
Guys, I want to talk about I didn't post it because I was a little irritated. but the has anyone else seen the Cinder's trailer? Like the new one?
01:29:48
Twin Cheaks
I did. Yeah, I did.
01:29:49
AstroDev
You watched it?
01:29:49
Steve-O
Doubt, yeah.
01:29:50
AstroDev
I felt like it spoiled some stuff and I didn't, I was not a fan.
01:29:50
Twin Cheaks
Mm hmm.
01:29:52
GREASEDAPOLES
I did not watch it, so maybe it's good that I don't.
01:29:56
Twin Cheaks
I mean, it depends on what sport like what do you think is is considered spoiling because we don't even know what the movie like the movie is not out yet. It does make me want to watch the movie, though, but like and it does Show a lot more information about the movie than the very first trailer.
01:30:11
AstroDev
it does, it does, but it's like,
01:30:12
Twin Cheaks
Right.
01:30:14
AstroDev
I feel like for us specifically, you just need to hear Ryan Coogler vampire movie and you're like, oh, okay.
01:30:19
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, and then you're like, I'm down.
01:30:20
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:30:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Definitely.
01:30:20
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I mean, I mean.
01:30:21
AstroDev
I don't even see anything.
01:30:21
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean,
01:30:23
AstroDev
It's just they like, again, I don't want to get into it just because cause I saw it and I was like, that's cool. And I don't even think this ruins the movie or anything. But I'm like, I would have been much happier just seeing that happen in the movie without.
01:30:39
AstroDev
You know, I don't.
01:30:40
GREASEDAPOLES
I liked, I liked the NFC championship teaser. They played over the FC champion, whatever, whatever.
01:30:45
AstroDev
yeah
01:30:47
GREASEDAPOLES
That was cool. I guess that's enough to get me.
01:30:50
Twin Cheaks
The style centers.
01:30:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, for sinners, it was the one with the rednecks singing the song around there.
01:30:56
Twin Cheaks
Oh, yeah.
01:30:57
GREASEDAPOLES
That was cool.
01:30:57
Twin Cheaks
Did that one show Haley Steinfeld or no?
01:30:59
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't think so.
01:31:01
Twin Cheaks
OK.
01:31:01
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:31:02
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't remember her in that.
01:31:02
Twin Cheaks
Man, not even maybe if it was the AFC championship game, they would have shown they would have shown Haley Steinfeld.
01:31:06
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:31:07
GREASEDAPOLES
She don't care about football. She's not going to be there.
01:31:12
Twin Cheaks
I know, but but her her husband.
01:31:13
AstroDev
John, I can say either the part, the part I specifically, I was talking about that. I didn't. I was not a fan of ice again. I just was like, ah, we could have saw that later.
01:31:21
Twin Cheaks
Oh. Yeah.
01:31:23
AstroDev
I could have saw that in the movie.
01:31:26
Twin Cheaks
OK, yeah, don't watch the trailer, Chris.
01:31:28
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay.
01:31:29
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:31:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Good to know. I won't. I'm still i'm very excited. I can't wait.
01:31:32
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:31:32
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, I definitely we're definitely going to watch that shit. Fucking day one, right? I plan to.
01:31:37
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:31:38
Twin Cheaks
It's Ryan Coogler. It's Michael B.J.
01:31:40
AstroDev
it's said April Fox.
01:31:41
Twin Cheaks
It's Haley Haley and Haley Steinfeld, Alan.
01:31:44
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:31:45
Twin Cheaks
Who else is in that movie?
01:31:48
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:31:49
GREASEDAPOLES
They didn't get married. he He didn't win the game. He didn't win the game.
01:31:51
AstroDev
Yo.
01:31:51
GREASEDAPOLES
They're not getting married.
01:31:52
Twin Cheaks
ah So not they're not getting married anymore.
01:31:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, of course.
01:31:54
Twin Cheaks
That's his punishment. He can't marry his fiance because he didn't win the big game But to be honest though, this is kind of unfair to Josh out but like every time he's on I'm watching him play football all I could think about is Haley Stiefel now is Is that how people are with it Travis Kelce now?
01:31:55
AstroDev
yeah
01:31:57
GREASEDAPOLES
That's the rules. Come on, everybody knows that.
01:31:59
AstroDev
I mean, shit. Yeah.
01:32:11
AstroDev
you
01:32:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, I'll be honest with you, John.
01:32:14
Twin Cheaks
Well, Travis comes he's not even in his prime anymore.
01:32:15
GREASEDAPOLES
I think during that AFC game, I think that's all he was thinking about too.
01:32:16
Twin Cheaks
Like Josh Allen still in his prime so
01:32:22
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, we definitely didn't seem very focused.
01:32:23
Twin Cheaks
Oh, she's still going to marry me.
01:32:24
AstroDev
but
01:32:25
Twin Cheaks
Oh oh god.
01:32:25
AstroDev
Oh, my God. What if like there was like footage of her just getting up from the game early and leaving just like, oh, the storm.
01:32:33
GREASEDAPOLES
But even when they had the lead, but she still knows they're gonna lose.
01:32:35
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:32:35
Twin Cheaks
leaving which Leaving with Shamique Moore.
01:32:38
AstroDev
As soon as the the refs fucking steal that first down from him, she just gets up and storms out like, no.
01:32:43
GREASEDAPOLES
Beautiful.
01:32:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Why didn't you pay the refs off like they did?
01:32:50
AstroDev
And he blames her. Well, maybe if you had the star power.
01:32:54
GREASEDAPOLES
ah
01:32:55
AstroDev
Dude, I did guarantee you that's what they get in fights about 100%.
01:33:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, 100%.
01:33:01
AstroDev
Yeah, duh.
01:33:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:33:03
AstroDev
Dude, I just have a video, of Gerald Butler clips. I got locked in.
01:33:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, you really are.
01:33:07
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:33:08
GREASEDAPOLES
You're real sore about that one, aren't you?
01:33:10
AstroDev
I just saying.
01:33:12
Steve-O
Best of Butler.
01:33:13
AstroDev
He's on the list. That's that's.
01:33:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, definitely on the list, 100%.
01:33:16
AstroDev
All right.
01:33:17
GREASEDAPOLES
That one's like, that was the first name that came up. The hymn Sandra Bullock, who wrote the first two.
01:33:20
AstroDev
And.
01:33:23
AstroDev
Uh, actually guys, I have a, this is like not at all relevant to anything we've been talking about, but I, as I thought about it and it's been in my brain. So, you know how Xbox basically is a third party studio now or like all, but name.
01:33:40
Steve-O
Yes.
01:33:42
Twin Cheaks
Yes.
01:33:42
Steve-O
ah
01:33:42
AstroDev
So I was like, OK, so we're there at that point, right? To the point where people are like, it's fable going to be like day one, right? Is there' all these other game, Halo, all that. And I was like thinking about the Sony Call of Duty deal. And I was like, do they feel like they got screwed over? Like, did they take a bad deal? Because. You know, maybe if they just waited a little bit, they would have fucking got Call of Duty anyway.
01:34:10
Steve-O
They would have just thrown it in for free because they need it.
01:34:12
AstroDev
yeah Yeah, they would have fucking got like, yeah, for, you know, quote unquote, like free.
01:34:12
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:34:17
AstroDev
But then I started thinking about other scenarios.
01:34:17
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know.
01:34:19
AstroDev
I was like, well, like, is that right?
01:34:21
GREASEDAPOLES
Isn't that the one that makes money?
01:34:23
AstroDev
But I'm saying like. Would like, let's say they weren't pressured into making Call of Duty third party, right? One, would they have done it anyway?
01:34:34
AstroDev
Or two, was that like the catalyst for everything? They're like, all right, well, like if we can't just like get Call of Duty We got to make it multi-platform. Like what the fuck are we even doing here?
01:34:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I think that was the final card.
01:34:45
AstroDev
Right? Like with Xboxes, like would Microsoft's Xbox like being an entirely different trajectory if like they didn't feel the need, like they had to sign a contract.
01:34:53
GREASEDAPOLES
I think buying that was the final card, like pulling the card out from the house of cards.
01:34:58
AstroDev
Yeah. Cause, cause it wasn't like legally, like it's not like legally they were told they had to do it, but it was just seemed like more trouble than it was worth to like not do it.
01:35:08
GREASEDAPOLES
You could say that was the beginning of the end.
01:35:10
AstroDev
Yeah, but like, yeah, like, is that contract even relevant?
01:35:11
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:35:13
AstroDev
Is that contract like the template that they use for all these other Xbox games coming over? Like, I don't know. I was just like, man, did Sony like piss? Because they're like, we signed this fucking garbage college, you know, like not garbage, right?
01:35:25
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, and it didn't even matter.
01:35:27
AstroDev
But it's like definitely not.
01:35:29
GREASEDAPOLES
See, I think that was the lynch pin. I think that was what caused everything else to come.
01:35:32
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:35:32
Twin Cheaks
I know, I think they're more relieved that. That they're because they seem pretty shook when Xbox bought.
01:35:40
AstroDev
They did. Yeah.
01:35:41
Twin Cheaks
Activated so I think they're probably more relieved that they're not it's not gonna affect them now and probably Yeah, and then that's why they don't have an Xbox doesn't have it anymore so now they don't have to do anything
01:35:46
Steve-O
That was their one big card Xbox had.
01:35:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:35:52
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:35:52
GREASEDAPOLES
It's like they shot the old yeller, he's dead.
01:35:56
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:35:57
GREASEDAPOLES
After that, that was shooting all the other and now they're just getting what's left of the corpse.
01:36:01
AstroDev
Yeah, like when Starfield when Starfield makes that jump, even though nobody cares about Starfield, but you know what I mean?
01:36:05
Steve-O
Dude, they're gonna have to pay PlayStation to get that.
01:36:11
AstroDev
Yeah. Like when, when like, starting man when halo, when halo, infinite's just fucking on that thing.
01:36:13
GREASEDAPOLES
You got to pay me to get this piece of shit on my console.
01:36:16
Steve-O
fine come on dude all right is that gonna feel a little dirty john if halo is
01:36:20
AstroDev
Least master chief collection.
01:36:25
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, dude, I hate I hate that. I think it's I mean, it's it's like it's bad enough.
01:36:28
AstroDev
Are you, are you going to buy it?
01:36:31
Twin Cheaks
No, no. Well, the thing is, is like it's it was bad enough when they released it on PC, too, because that's when all you heard was, oh, fuck aise you, You Amos is bitch.
01:36:42
Twin Cheaks
Fuck you. But it's like, bro, like this is fucking Halo. Like you play Halo in a controller. Like you're the one doing it wrong.
01:36:48
Steve-O
Right.
01:36:50
Twin Cheaks
Sorry. Like and even like the world champions of world champion players. level players are they still use controller just because you know and it might not even be optimal but you know it's a fucking it's an identity thing you know that's the identity of the game so like so now like I think it's like it's a little it feels a little bit worse because it's it's PlayStation right like it kind of feels like like I'm trying to think like what's like like playing God of War on
01:37:04
AstroDev
yeah
01:37:23
Twin Cheaks
on uh on xbox 7 like that would be weird right like that that wouldn't feel good right uncharted yeah like yeah yeah aside from my
01:37:26
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
01:37:29
Steve-O
You can play it on PC.
01:37:29
AstroDev
but We're like on chart it on like chart it on Xbox. like
01:37:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Imagine a nightware nightmare world where the DCU does not pan out and Disney buys them.
01:37:35
AstroDev
Lots of.
01:37:40
Steve-O
oh
01:37:41
GREASEDAPOLES
And we end up watching DC movies on Disney. That's the only other equivalent I can think of.
01:37:45
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:37:47
Steve-O
That's too much, that's too much.
01:37:49
AstroDev
was
01:37:50
Twin Cheaks
Aside from my like aside from my like intrinsic gatekeeping personality, like like yeah, like it feels bad. But the worst part about it is that there's no, like it just feels like there's not going to be any competition anymore between the two.
01:38:04
Twin Cheaks
And we're going to see it downgrade and in quality both both for both um both studios or both publishers.
01:38:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Definitely.
01:38:07
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:38:10
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:38:10
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, what Sony has to compete with Nintendo, but ah they never really even, neither of them consider them.
01:38:15
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, and it's kind of like it's the fuck.
01:38:15
AstroDev
They stopped viewing them as competition because like it was so different.
01:38:17
Twin Cheaks
Yeah. Yeah, Chris, it's the fucking Mad Men scene where the guys in the elevator and he's like, I don't think about you at all.
01:38:21
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:38:23
Steve-O
Yes.
01:38:24
Twin Cheaks
Like that's Nintendo.
01:38:24
GREASEDAPOLES
Exactly.
01:38:25
Twin Cheaks
Sony looks like.
01:38:26
GREASEDAPOLES
And I think that's, they both don't consider each other competitors. So it's like, they don't matter really.
01:38:30
Twin Cheaks
Right. It's almost like they. Like before it was like Nintendo's kind of just playing, you know, the penguin, the penguin, right? They're just playing both sides. But now it's just like Nintendo and Sony might just have like a fucking like shadow like, oh, like, yeah, the goal is.
01:38:47
Twin Cheaks
for everybody to have both of our consoles in their house.
01:38:50
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah Yeah.
01:38:50
Twin Cheaks
And that and that's OK.
01:38:50
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:38:53
Twin Cheaks
And like that's cool. But like yeah but but sony versus Sony and Microsoft not competing really anymore is like is really bad, I think, for everyone.
01:38:56
GREASEDAPOLES
That could affect quality everywhere.
01:38:57
AstroDev
Yeah, but I because I do feel like.
01:38:57
Steve-O
Mm.
01:39:03
AstroDev
Yeah. Because like I do feel like once x Microsoft likes kind of becomes like this full third party, they won't once they stop viewing them as competition, they might be more open to like.
01:39:17
AstroDev
OK, how do we make money off of this? Right. Whether that's getting like a game pass like thing on, you know, it's like. I don't know, man, but it was just like a thing.
01:39:29
AstroDev
I was just like, oh, my God, somebody just really pissed about this.
01:39:32
Steve-O
Well, everything's an Xbox now, Devin.
01:39:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:39:35
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:39:36
GREASEDAPOLES
Does this follow a water I have in my hand here?
01:39:36
AstroDev
You know, that's that's the rumor, the big rumor about the next Xbox consoles. It's going to be a box where you can basically put in different loaders on it. Like you'll be able to like play your launch launchers, not loaders.
01:39:48
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm holding my dick right now. This is an Xbox.
01:39:50
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:39:50
Steve-O
That's an Xbox.
01:39:52
AstroDev
but Yeah.
01:39:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Do a lot with that. Do a lot with that Xbox.
01:39:57
AstroDev
A lot of sex box and we're well, you know what?
01:39:57
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, it fucking sucks, man.
01:39:59
Steve-O
Piss out of my Xbox.
01:40:00
AstroDev
Hey, uh, maybe fucking do better. It's not their fault.
01:40:04
Twin Cheaks
ah I mean, it doesn't matter now.
01:40:04
Steve-O
Better, Phil.
01:40:06
Twin Cheaks
It's it's over, dude. like the fuck
01:40:07
AstroDev
Oh, yeah.
01:40:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it is over.
01:40:08
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:40:08
Twin Cheaks
It's pretty much over. It

Shifting Dynamics in the Gaming Industry

01:40:11
Twin Cheaks
hasn't officially been announced, but like everybody's expecting Halo alo and Gears to be announced for PS5 soon, right?
01:40:11
AstroDev
Yeah. I think that April.
01:40:18
AstroDev
I think that April switch to announcements going to have halo master chief collection. And then they're going to be like, Oh, also this is, you know, this is also going to be available on PlayStation five.
01:40:29
Steve-O
Dude, Phil goes into his office reeking a whiskey, just puts a gun on his desk every day, and just thinks about it.
01:40:34
AstroDev
Just just puts one bullet in a chamber and spins it every day. Maybe today it's going to be.
01:40:39
GREASEDAPOLES
staring out of his window, his back's to the gun, just staring.
01:40:40
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:40:41
Steve-O
He goes, this is the true Xbox 360, and then he rotates.
01:40:46
AstroDev
stop any every time it doesn't blow his brains out. like fuck me
01:40:51
Steve-O
Fuck!
01:40:51
GREASEDAPOLES
I just imagine him sitting there playing Tetris when anybody walks in and he just switches over like emails and he's like, oh oh, no, no, we're we're in a good position right now.
01:40:57
Steve-O
Hmm?
01:40:57
AstroDev
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
01:41:00
GREASEDAPOLES
So we should be fine.
01:41:01
Steve-O
Yeah, numbers are up.
01:41:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, every number, every number.
01:41:03
AstroDev
yeah We're actually making way more money now. Oh, OK.
01:41:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Sony, they're scared.
01:41:09
Steve-O
Did you know that we actually make PlayStation 5?
01:41:12
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
01:41:12
Steve-O
That's our company.
01:41:13
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:41:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, investors are so stupid, you can probably just tell them anything.
01:41:15
AstroDev
Yeah. PlayStation five. Do you do know that's an Xbox?
01:41:19
Steve-O
this is everything words right Dude, we sold so many iPhones a year!
01:41:19
AstroDev
Are you crying?
01:41:20
Twin Cheaks
And.
01:41:25
Steve-O
And thanks Max!
01:41:29
AstroDev
Yeah. I guess that works, right? If you just get the put and copy everybody.
01:41:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it's called Delusion.
01:41:33
Steve-O
yeah
01:41:34
GREASEDAPOLES
It's called Delusion.
01:41:34
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:41:36
Steve-O
Yeah, just like he was like, oh god, I'm getting fired today. I better come in with something real real clever.
01:41:42
AstroDev
Guys.
01:41:42
Steve-O
I See you gentlemen all have the new Xbox. These are our phones Phil You can play Master Chief on that oh fuck
01:41:47
AstroDev
Yes, exactly.
01:41:56
AstroDev
He's definitely beating up homeless people under an overpass on his way home from work. Oh, boy. Anyway, I want to see some of the news this week.
01:42:07
Steve-O
Yeah, give us some news. Give me some news.
01:42:09
AstroDev
You know, I want to give a specific shout out. John sent me The Devil May Cry opening credits. And I looked at it with volume off and I was like, oh, that's cool.
01:42:20
Twin Cheaks
Oh, you watch with the music bro.
01:42:20
AstroDev
Three days, three days later, I watched it and I was like, i I was embarrassed.
01:42:23
Twin Cheaks
Oh Man, that's make that makes the whole thing dude It's it's actually really cool.
01:42:27
AstroDev
I was embarrassed. I was like, I was like, look, limp biscuits on this fucking thing.
01:42:30
Twin Cheaks
It's really awesome. It's sick Yes, that's why I sent it to you Devin that's why I tagged you Bro
01:42:36
AstroDev
I know, I was like, no, it all made, I was like, oh, okay. And it was like, I'll blame it like Jenny was yapping, you know, and I just want to look at it. I'll blame it.
01:42:47
AstroDev
Oh, it's fine.
01:42:47
Steve-O
Danny, I'm trying to watch a little bus get over to credit for Devil May Cry!
01:42:48
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, true.
01:42:51
AstroDev
Oh, well, fuck.
01:42:51
Steve-O
I love you, babe!
01:42:54
Steve-O
so
01:42:56
AstroDev
Oh, man, magazine dreams trailer finally saw that I've been hearing about this one for like three years.
01:43:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Didn't he um didn't oh um Correct me if I'm wrong, but could have swore that this lead actor did some things
01:43:04
AstroDev
Oh, no, got really ripped, got really ripped for this movie shirt.
01:43:07
Twin Cheaks
yeah
01:43:17
AstroDev
Oh, what what? Hey, you know what? If the cannibal can come back.
01:43:21
Steve-O
You talking about Hannibal Lecter?
01:43:23
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:43:24
GREASEDAPOLES
And look, he always comes back.
01:43:25
AstroDev
Yeah, it's always.
01:43:26
GREASEDAPOLES
He's a really popular character.
01:43:29
AstroDev
Mainly, you know, I was thinking about I was like, man, this movie definitely had Academy Award buzz in both context and performance. And I was like, that must be so fucking irritating to be have this and then be like, we can't. What's the point? And now they're just kind of like Here it is.
01:43:47
AstroDev
We know. But like, here it is. And that's going to be really frustrating for whatever studio bought this movie. And because it looks I mean, did you guys see the trailer?
01:43:58
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm watching it right now.
01:44:00
AstroDev
Looks pretty good, man. He looks like he, you know, in between bouts of attacking his partner.
01:44:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, that's why he got ripped, right?
01:44:07
AstroDev
You know, he seems.
01:44:08
GREASEDAPOLES
So you can beat her up better.
01:44:09
AstroDev
Yeah, he was just really wanted to be.
01:44:12
GREASEDAPOLES
This movie was just a cover.
01:44:14
AstroDev
Jesus Christ.
01:44:14
GREASEDAPOLES
So he can beat, he gets stronger to beat up his women around him.
01:44:17
AstroDev
oh jesus um Anyway, yeah honestly, allegedly, I suppose still fucked your career.
01:44:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Allegedly.
01:44:25
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:44:25
Steve-O
That's how we still stay safe.
01:44:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Yup.
01:44:27
Steve-O
The ol' anti-fanboy protection deal.
01:44:28
AstroDev
Can you imagine opening the door and this fucking dude beats the shit out of you?
01:44:33
GREASEDAPOLES
No.
01:44:33
AstroDev
like i heard you I got time, motherfucker.
01:44:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Do you think that's why he got in trouble? when He just opened random people's doors and beat him up?
01:44:40
AstroDev
I mean.
01:44:41
GREASEDAPOLES
Is that why he seriously is up there?
01:44:42
AstroDev
Isn't that, that's like a, oh, that's a Rick and Morty, That's a Rick and Morty bet, yeah.
01:44:46
GREASEDAPOLES
That's right, good morning. And Russell Crowe, somewhat.
01:44:50
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah.
01:44:51
GREASEDAPOLES
A little bit.
01:44:52
AstroDev
Also, with news for Devin and probably no one else. A Star Deez 2 gets an official teaser trailer. You guys watched a Star Deez like five years ago?
01:45:04
GREASEDAPOLES
a starties. I haven't even finished.
01:45:06
AstroDev
Oh, God.
01:45:09
AstroDev
Listen. Fuck you, Chris. Just watch it.
01:45:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Does that it't make any sense?
01:45:14
AstroDev
Just watch it to see some cool shit is basically all I'm saying.
01:45:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay.
01:45:20
AstroDev
um Because there's also some story I read where none of the footage in this teaser trailer is actually even going to be in the show. And I was like, fucking what, dude?
01:45:28
Steve-O
Wait, what?
01:45:30
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:45:30
GREASEDAPOLES
This is a video game.
01:45:31
AstroDev
I hate that. I yeah, I was like, I don't understand that.
01:45:34
Steve-O
What is this, Rogue One?
01:45:35
AstroDev
um But that teaser, let's fuck it. It's it's just cool shit. You know, it's like there's a plot. It's just a bunch of dope shit happening on screen in the Warhammer.
01:45:45
GREASEDAPOLES
Bunch of bros hanging out with one another and having a good time.
01:45:47
AstroDev
It's just a bunch of bros or jump packs and chainsaw words.
01:45:52
Steve-O
I mean, that was 300, basically.
01:45:54
AstroDev
Yeah, Chris, your favorite fucking movie.
01:45:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it's really good.
01:45:55
Steve-O
Your favorite Gerard Butler film.
01:45:57
AstroDev
Yes.
01:45:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Deasily, easily.
01:45:58
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:46:00
Steve-O
Vin Diesely?
01:46:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Then Deasily, my favorite, Gerard Butler-y film.
01:46:01
AstroDev
Oh. he Easily, the most easily movie I've ever seen.
01:46:09
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean 300s easily, the Deasily of them all.
01:46:11
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:46:12
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, let's be honest.
01:46:12
AstroDev
Even though he's not in that one.
01:46:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Nah, but he in spirit.
01:46:17
AstroDev
ah Chris, good news.
01:46:18
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I know, I'm reading it already.
01:46:19
AstroDev
I'm really worried. I know you're really worried.
01:46:21
GREASEDAPOLES
So worried.
01:46:21
AstroDev
Fourth and final Terrifier film is going to finally reveal Art the Clown's origin.
01:46:25
Twin Cheaks
Oh, the final.
01:46:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Stop holding my breath.
01:46:27
AstroDev
yeah We're going to find out how he's risen up all these ladies, dude. How he got became the Riz master.
01:46:35
GREASEDAPOLES
You know, I did watch them all and I could have swore they kind of had his origin in
01:46:41
AstroDev
Is he an alien? What is it?
01:46:43
GREASEDAPOLES
in All Hallows' Eve, he's a demon, summoned by Satanists, by cultists to kill people.
01:46:47
AstroDev
Well, you know, not everybody has a show where they got to watch all the fucking Terrifier stuff, Chris. All of Eve is like pretty deep cut or an already deep cut, you know.
01:46:57
GREASEDAPOLES
It is a deep cut.
01:47:00
GREASEDAPOLES
I kind of think that he's gonna just remake that part of All Hallows' Eve.
01:47:04
AstroDev
Yeah, why not, dude?
01:47:05
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, who cares?
01:47:07
AstroDev
You know, the stakes that I fucking really.
01:47:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Who fucking cares, really? Like, I don't.
01:47:12
AstroDev
I'll tell you a show I'm not going to watch out of spite, apparently. Beyond Two Souls TV series on the way from star Elliot Page. I don't know if they're producing or going to be starring really kind of a nothing burger story.
01:47:27
AstroDev
They're just saying, hey, we're working on it and I'm working on it as well.
01:47:30
Steve-O
I never played the game.
01:47:31
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
01:47:31
AstroDev
me either.
01:47:32
GREASEDAPOLES
nobody here did nobody played it nobody played it
01:47:32
AstroDev
I've owned that game for years. Yeah.
01:47:36
Twin Cheaks
That was like the unofficial sequel to Heavy Rain, right? That was the same people.
01:47:40
AstroDev
It was, yeah, it was just the game after that.
01:47:42
Steve-O
No, I thought, um wait, was it was it Detroit before or after?
01:47:45
AstroDev
That was, this was, this was beyond two souls was before Detroit.
01:47:47
Twin Cheaks
Detroit 2 Human, that was the same that same two studio.
01:47:51
Steve-O
Okay.
01:47:51
AstroDev
There's heavy rain beyond Detroit and their star Wars game that they've been working on for like 10 years.
01:47:58
Steve-O
but but but but but but but but la
01:48:00
AstroDev
Yeah. Also, we got a Thank you, I was waiting Steve thought you were gonna be on that jumped me by the trunk
01:48:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, rest in peace, Wado.
01:48:11
Steve-O
I'd like to report that Wada was found dead.
01:48:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Hey, everybody! I'm not there! I'm still alive! It's your friend, Wado.
01:48:23
AstroDev
a add the
01:48:26
GREASEDAPOLES
What is that music for? I'm still here!
01:48:29
AstroDev
It's really Steve's like, I can't.
01:48:32
Steve-O
Guys, show some fucking respect. Wada was found dead with a gallon of cum in his mouth.
01:48:38
GREASEDAPOLES
ah Yeah, that's definitely- yeah.
01:48:38
AstroDev
Oh, Jesus.
01:48:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Dark faders come.
01:48:41
AstroDev
That's some twin things, though. ah I don't I can't remember why I put this on here

Entertainment Tidbits: Bill Skarsgard and 'Sandman'

01:48:49
AstroDev
outside. I just I like ah I like a movie that has one one location and yeah one thing.
01:48:55
GREASEDAPOLES
One thing.
01:48:56
Steve-O
Oh, I like a movie where one eye goes to a left and the other one goes up.
01:48:56
GREASEDAPOLES
Like he doing it, damn it?
01:48:59
AstroDev
yeah
01:49:01
AstroDev
Well, that's why he can't. That's why Bill Skarsgard can't get a car because it doesn't facial recognition is like, yo, your eyes are all over the place, dude.
01:49:10
GREASEDAPOLES
God damn it, just work! He's just slamming his fist in his head.
01:49:12
AstroDev
Yeah, Bill Skarsgard plays a little little scumbag. He's trying to steal cars and gets locked in a car and Hannibal Lecter's like, you can't get out of my car.
01:49:22
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm gonna shock you with my seats.
01:49:22
AstroDev
ah Not Hannibal Lecter, but the actor who famously played him.
01:49:24
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm gonna shock you with my seats. I'm gonna shock you with my seats.
01:49:28
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah. Can you imagine trying to relax and see?
01:49:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh! Hey! Oh!
01:49:33
AstroDev
Also, also going in the way of the waddow, Sandman is set to end at season two and Netflix.
01:49:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Gotta get out of this car!
01:49:41
AstroDev
For some reason, I don't really know why. It's a mystery to me, but.
01:49:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, Watto came on a girl's face in a hot tub.
01:49:46
AstroDev
You know.
01:49:50
Steve-O
Oh, God.
01:49:51
GREASEDAPOLES
and That's why he died, Devin.
01:49:52
AstroDev
yeah that's pretty bad You know, like.
01:49:53
GREASEDAPOLES
It's pretty obvious, isn't it?
01:49:57
AstroDev
ah All right. Not a surprise, right? But it must feel extra shitty to be like, yo, you know, all these people lost their fucking job because you're just a dickhead. You were a dickhead a while ago.
01:50:10
AstroDev
You still might be a dickhead, right? But like you were you did some shitty shit way back when. And now I don't have a fucking job ah because of you.
01:50:17
GREASEDAPOLES
Hmm.
01:50:18
AstroDev
Like, fuck you, dude.
01:50:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Why do you think that tall drink of water is on severance now?
01:50:24
AstroDev
Is he?
01:50:25
GREASEDAPOLES
No.
01:50:25
AstroDev
Oh, oh.
01:50:26
GREASEDAPOLES
What's her name?
01:50:27
AstroDev
Thought you meant the Sandman.
01:50:29
GREASEDAPOLES
What's her name? Jesus Christ.
01:50:30
AstroDev
Brianna of Tarth.
01:50:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Brianna Tarp, yeah.
01:50:32
AstroDev
Fuck.
01:50:32
Steve-O
Huh?
01:50:32
AstroDev
What is her name? Oh, man.
01:50:34
GREASEDAPOLES
God.
01:50:34
Steve-O
Gwendolyn Christie.
01:50:35
AstroDev
Thank you, man, who has access to Google.
01:50:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Thank you.
01:50:38
Steve-O
No, i I actually just remember that because I was like, that's Gwendolyn Christie.
01:50:40
AstroDev
Oh, yeah?
01:50:41
Steve-O
And my mom went, no, she's blonde. And I went, no, mom, that's Gwendolyn Christie.
01:50:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Nope.
01:50:46
AstroDev
Mom, that's a fucking wig.
01:50:47
Steve-O
And my mom went, no, no, it's not, she's blonde.
01:50:49
GREASEDAPOLES
She's Nope. She's blonde. Nope. You know what? You're wrong, Steve.
01:50:53
AstroDev
yeah what's when That's you guys really just
01:50:53
Steve-O
ah
01:50:53
GREASEDAPOLES
She is blonde. I remember that.
01:50:56
Steve-O
Steve, what are you fucking stupid?
01:50:57
AstroDev
You just pull up IMDB and just throw the phone at her.
01:51:00
Steve-O
No, I pointed my finger and I went, Gwendolyn Gristy.
01:51:00
AstroDev
Like, ugh.
01:51:06
Steve-O
My mom went, no.
01:51:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Nope.
01:51:09
AstroDev
She's still like just a, wow. That's, you know what?
01:51:12
GREASEDAPOLES
She's blonde, you fool.
01:51:12
AstroDev
I'm on, I'm on your mom's side now.
01:51:14
Steve-O
She's blonde. She's blonde.
01:51:15
AstroDev
I'm on your mom's side now. That's, that takes some good stuff.
01:51:18
Steve-O
You don't remember? You don't remember? I'm pretty sure that's Jane Lynch from a that show with the the cheerleaders.
01:51:22
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:51:26
GREASEDAPOLES
I see that,
01:51:27
AstroDev
Glee.
01:51:28
Steve-O
Thank you.
01:51:28
AstroDev
right Uh, ready for your daily dose of copium.

Fantasy League Insights and Strategies

01:51:34
Twin Cheaks
Yes, I need that Oh stop yeah, he got he got that once the PlayStation show once that one Soon right now, I thought it was like February State of play
01:51:34
AstroDev
Uh, that guy who put out the bloodborne 60 FPS mod, like four years ago, uh, he got sees it, but people are like, but why, why do they care now?
01:51:46
AstroDev
Maybe something's happening.
01:51:48
Steve-O
Cheeks usually get clapped.
01:51:52
Steve-O
It's March? I think it's March?
01:51:55
AstroDev
Anyway, when is the next day?
01:51:58
GREASEDAPOLES
d And DMCA, stands for definitely might clap ass, so.
01:52:02
Steve-O
i was doing I was doing a lot of research the past few days for our fantasy leagues.
01:52:04
Twin Cheaks
Slap it slap it.
01:52:05
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:52:07
Twin Cheaks
Yes, February February 9th, bro State
01:52:07
AstroDev
Oh, yeah.
01:52:10
Steve-O
Oh, dude, that's right around the corner.
01:52:12
AstroDev
Yeah, wait, can we talk about that real quick?
01:52:14
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:52:15
AstroDev
Steve fucking bet in the farm on a six, seven day.
01:52:15
Twin Cheaks
of play I was expecting to see a hundred a hundred dollars
01:52:20
AstroDev
I mean, he basically did, bro which is.
01:52:22
Steve-O
Well, that's the thing, dude. I opened up Pandora's box and I went, oh, we can bid on these now.
01:52:27
AstroDev
Yeah, you know what, Steve, actually that I literally went on the fantasy critic discord and I was like, why did this happen? And they were basically like, we don't know. It should have been acceptable.
01:52:36
Steve-O
Oh.
01:52:37
Twin Cheaks
Wow, and you were like, there's so much money on the line you motherfuckers.
01:52:41
AstroDev
yeah
01:52:42
Steve-O
ah
01:52:42
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:52:43
AstroDev
I literally bet the house and.
01:52:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Wait, didn't didn't a game come out on your list recently like a new game?
01:52:51
AstroDev
Oh, some games have come out, there's actually.
01:52:53
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:52:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Some games.
01:52:55
AstroDev
Yeah, actually, you know, we can do a little quick little check in actually may as well.
01:52:59
GREASEDAPOLES
There was a game that came out, I was like a guy in 82, I can't remember what it was.
01:53:02
AstroDev
ah
01:53:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Something.
01:53:04
AstroDev
So yeah.
01:53:04
Steve-O
ah A game called, so for Michelle, it's a game called Tales of Iron II Whiskers of Winter that got a 78, netting her eight points.
01:53:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Nope. That's the one
01:53:14
Steve-O
ah This game's not out yet. It actually comes out in three days. This is a game that I have. It's called Rift of the Necrodancer. Came out real hot. It had like an 80, 89, and then it went down to an 81.
01:53:24
AstroDev
You had like 89, dude.
01:53:24
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, that was actually pretty funny No, I'm just trying to I just try I just try to fucking scare Steve that's all yeah, I just try to see
01:53:28
Steve-O
It bounced up to an 83, but you know it's not out yet, so they're there could be more scores coming soon.
01:53:33
AstroDev
Steve's going to get some, he's going to get some points. Uh, no points for Duke. No points.
01:53:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Dan, John, you think Sid's going to get a 77?
01:53:39
AstroDev
forynia
01:53:42
GREASEDAPOLES
time Good Lord
01:53:45
Steve-O
Staring a pot he stared a and then brave mouths
01:53:47
AstroDev
Yeah, rain rain got some some buco points.
01:53:49
Twin Cheaks
yeah
01:53:50
AstroDev
A rare rare W for rain for citizen sleeper to. Sitting on a you got 16 points from that. 16 points.
01:54:02
Twin Cheaks
What are we actually expecting Civ 7 to be? Like a 90 at least?
01:54:06
Steve-O
I'm gonna say minimum 88.
01:54:07
Twin Cheaks
um Why?
01:54:07
AstroDev
83.
01:54:10
AstroDev
You know, actually, you know why I think it's.
01:54:11
Twin Cheaks
Because that's what Civ 6 got? 88?
01:54:13
Steve-O
No, just I just expect high numbers.
01:54:16
AstroDev
I expect it to be kind of buggy at launch and it's going to fuck up the score.
01:54:20
Steve-O
not and that's That's the thing.
01:54:21
Twin Cheaks
seventy So 70? So 77?
01:54:22
Steve-O
The reviewers are just gonna be so happy to have a Civ game in their hands.
01:54:25
AstroDev
ah Wait, and yeah, sorry, a brave mouth. ah Two games of his had come out. He's got nine points total stone of madness and sniper elite resistance.
01:54:34
Steve-O
Dude, Sniper Elite got like hosed at first, but then it bounced off, thankfully.
01:54:34
Twin Cheaks
i for Yeah, du yeah, and then yeah bouncing it crawled back up climbed No
01:54:38
AstroDev
You know what? you But you know, I got fucking owns because I saw basically a krobi cat esque video where they were like, it's the same animations from the last game. Like they're like, it's not at all different.
01:54:49
Steve-O
You still shoot nuts?
01:54:49
Twin Cheaks
And then they realized that they do the same thing in movies, so why does it matter okay is the game fun?
01:54:54
Steve-O
You go.
01:54:54
AstroDev
It's the same actor. What are they bothering?
01:54:56
Twin Cheaks
Give fun the game fun or no Yeah, I got zero too
01:54:56
Steve-O
ah
01:54:58
AstroDev
And I'm sitting pretty at zero. so um Yeah, I know. Yeah.
01:55:03
Twin Cheaks
It's a little game.
01:55:04
AstroDev
johnson
01:55:04
Steve-O
Dude, every day, every day, I think, of counterpicking Silksong.
01:55:07
Twin Cheaks
Wait, well.
01:55:09
AstroDev
Don't fucking dude i'm telling you right now that bad know He
01:55:12
Twin Cheaks
What is it, dude, the citizen sleeper to what was that projected at?
01:55:16
Steve-O
um If we click on it, I think it projects.
01:55:17
Twin Cheaks
Was that supposed to be.
01:55:19
Steve-O
It shows you that. It says it was, the height factor was a 74.
01:55:22
Twin Cheaks
Fucking 86 is is fucking insane.
01:55:25
Steve-O
Projected points was 10.2.
01:55:29
Twin Cheaks
Fuck. so rain so rain really fucking and rain gets 16 he gets 16 for it oh my god damn yo when they're not
01:55:34
Steve-O
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was looking at a Silk Song. This was ah projected at 11.2.
01:55:44
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, he cleaned up.
01:55:47
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah.
01:55:48
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:55:48
AstroDev
Rare, like I said, but listen, broken clock, broken clock, right? Twice a day, right? Rare W for rain.
01:55:56
Twin Cheaks
Did the ninja get ninja getting four might be might be his fucking we need somebody needs a counter pick rain on something.
01:56:01
AstroDev
ah Dude, i've I've been thinking about it.
01:56:02
Twin Cheaks
I'm just saying dude No, no, no bro, bro, bro, bro, bro.
01:56:04
Steve-O
He spent a lot on that.
01:56:05
AstroDev
Yeah, dude. Yeah.
01:56:08
Twin Cheaks
I the one that's really fucking Like under my skin right now like fucking rent-free in my head.
01:56:08
AstroDev
but
01:56:14
AstroDev
don um
01:56:14
Twin Cheaks
Is that no? No is the Legend of Zelda ocarina of time remade?
01:56:17
AstroDev
I don't like that. I don't yeah, that's like what do you isn't working on it?
01:56:20
Twin Cheaks
I'm like so close to Counter picking it.
01:56:23
AstroDev
If we find out he's working on that That's
01:56:23
Twin Cheaks
No, I think
01:56:26
Twin Cheaks
ah fuck No, no, that's inside of training man. We he gets he gets disqualified.
01:56:28
AstroDev
what yeah, I'm deleted from the league dude, yeah, he's deleted from the way also actually, you know, you know what I
01:56:31
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, he gets deleted. He has to know cuz We accused him of cheating in that fucking that flickle video game yeah ready of hey So I'm kind of like that maybe that just means you weren't cheating right because you stopped
01:56:40
AstroDev
yeah
01:56:47
AstroDev
Yeah, actually, you know, to be fair, you know what I think is a solid counter pick. Just because I don't think it's going to be a full blown remake is the Elder Scrolls Oblivion. I think that's an engine reason at best.
01:57:00
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, what the fuck are yeah, what are these what are these dude?
01:57:03
AstroDev
I don't think that's.
01:57:03
Twin Cheaks
What is rain doing?
01:57:04
Steve-O
That's a rumor. though The Ocarina of Time is a rumor.
01:57:05
Twin Cheaks
What is he doing?
01:57:06
Steve-O
there There have been like skews popping up for ah Zelda.
01:57:06
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, but that's.
01:57:09
Twin Cheaks
That's what I'm saying So I look it up and people are like are fucking like tin foil hat for like the last two years about it.
01:57:14
Steve-O
Mm-hmm But the thing though is I don't think it's gonna come out this year I think it's just gonna be something that they mention You're not wrong.
01:57:16
AstroDev
Dude, he's, this is a hard pie in the sky though.
01:57:16
Twin Cheaks
So but timeout though Steve I went through that in my head to Steve
01:57:21
AstroDev
Yeah, he's, he's thinking this is getting announced at the switch to reveal.
01:57:29
Twin Cheaks
But then I'm thinking, well, Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Remake would be a perfect launch title for the Switch too. So that's what's deterring me from doing it.
01:57:38
Steve-O
Here's the thing though. Here's the thing if it If we do end up in that universe where that is a release in 2025, if you counter pick it, you're eating shit.
01:57:48
AstroDev
You're dead. You're dead.
01:57:49
Steve-O
You are dead in the water.
01:57:49
AstroDev
You're used to it.
01:57:50
Twin Cheaks
That's what I'm saying.
01:57:51
Steve-O
hu
01:57:52
Twin Cheaks
Yeah. but But at the same time, it's like, do I really lose?
01:57:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:57:56
Twin Cheaks
Because I get Ocarina of Time remake at the same time. you know So it's like, is it worth is it worth the risk of...
01:58:03
Steve-O
But you could you can win and just not touch it.
01:58:03
AstroDev
I mean, I mean,
01:58:04
Twin Cheaks
is it Yeah, is it worth the risk of of of fucking beheading Reign right now by doing that?
01:58:10
AstroDev
No, because I'll be honest, I don't think he's and I'm literally questioning his intelligence.
01:58:15
Twin Cheaks
he said and He specifically said nobody took his bait.
01:58:16
AstroDev
I'm questioning his intelligence. But my point is.
01:58:18
Twin Cheaks
No, no, he said nobody nobody took his Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time bait.
01:58:22
AstroDev
Yeah, but like he.
01:58:22
Twin Cheaks
So I don't know if he's like if he's if he's playing us right now, you know Okay, so here here's here's the so you can't you can't drop a counter pit right like you can't cut it Sorry,
01:58:26
AstroDev
But the thing is, is I don't think he's smart enough to drop it if it doesn't get announced in April. That's the only time it is the only shot he has. If not announced in April, it's not coming out, it's not.
01:58:39
Steve-O
yeah
01:58:40
AstroDev
No, counterpicks are locked in forever.
01:58:42
Steve-O
Mm-hmm You guys are getting some inside baseball to our fantasy game leagues right now Yeah, yeah Chris's reigns representative.
01:58:47
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's start fantasy critic.
01:58:49
Twin Cheaks
oh, yeah, I hope he's not listening but fuck man
01:58:52
GREASEDAPOLES
i'm I'm listening.
01:58:53
AstroDev
yeah
01:58:56
GREASEDAPOLES
I i've just found out about Duck Detective, the ghost of glamping.
01:58:56
AstroDev
i got
01:58:57
Twin Cheaks
ah
01:58:59
GREASEDAPOLES
I gotta go tell Rain.
01:59:00
Steve-O
Oh My god the ghost of gold empty is that glam camping That sounds nice
01:59:03
Twin Cheaks
Because Devon that citizen sleep or two might be that might be the fucking That might be the fucking slam dunk of the year that game because like I think ghost ghost of Yotei is is a lock that's gonna be at least Whatever it is.
01:59:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's glamorous camping.
01:59:13
AstroDev
That's a good pick, dude.
01:59:18
Twin Cheaks
What is it at 15 points?
01:59:19
AstroDev
That might be like another 86, right?
01:59:21
Steve-O
That'll be a 90, that'll probably be a 90 I bet.
01:59:21
AstroDev
He might be.
01:59:22
Twin Cheaks
I don't be able to probably be a 90 because, you know, fucking so many people are crazy. It's going to win game of the year. Jeff Keeley's Game Awards because it's a fucking Sony game. No, I'm not. I'm not being fucking salty about it, but like it's probably going to happen.
01:59:34
Twin Cheaks
Right.
01:59:34
AstroDev
but but I don't think these, I still don't think Nietzsche got into fours coming out.
01:59:34
Twin Cheaks
Like that's what's going to happen. Right. Sony game.
01:59:39
AstroDev
I think that's going to get delayed.
01:59:40
Twin Cheaks
So that that's the other thing, Devin, like that's the other one that's looking at me like fucking Green Goblin Mask, like because like, I don't know if that that game is going to be good, even if it does come out. I don't I don't know if that's going to be good.
01:59:52
Twin Cheaks
I don't think it's that big of a deal that they announced it.
01:59:55
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:59:55
Twin Cheaks
Call me a fucking. Zoomer, fucking Gen Z, pill popping, fucking Nepo baby.
02:00:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Mm.
02:00:03
Steve-O
I'm gonna, I'm
02:00:03
Twin Cheaks
But like, but I don't think Ninja Ninja Gaiden four is going to be good.
02:00:07
Steve-O
gonna say something something hot.
02:00:08
AstroDev
Yeah, I agree.
02:00:09
Twin Cheaks
Ninja Gaiman for Neil Gaiman.
02:00:09
Steve-O
last year Last year, I bet a lot on games that I thought might come out and I ate shit on those.
02:00:10
AstroDev
I think i yeah.
02:00:18
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:00:18
Twin Cheaks
That's what I'm saying. That's what it's hard.
02:00:19
AstroDev
I'm just saying Steven sitting with $48 left and it's February.
02:00:23
Twin Cheaks
We could fucking...
02:00:24
Steve-O
Dude, rain Rain tried to grab Civ for 39.
02:00:25
Twin Cheaks
We could... do Yeah, he's he's not fucking around, dude!
02:00:28
AstroDev
I tried to grab it.
02:00:29
Steve-O
He would, yeah, but like Rain already spent
02:00:29
AstroDev
I tried to grab it too.
02:00:32
Steve-O
Rain already spent like a bunch of money.
02:00:32
Twin Cheaks
He's locked in!
02:00:34
Steve-O
He would have been completely poor at that point. He wouldn't even have a counterpoint.
02:00:36
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, he's locked in.
02:00:36
AstroDev
I mean, yeah. Yeah. I thought.
02:00:38
Twin Cheaks
No, but I mean, at that point he doesn't even need anything, because he's only got two slots left, too, you know?
02:00:43
Steve-O
Oh yeah, he is he has been chipping away.
02:00:43
AstroDev
So.
02:00:43
Twin Cheaks
So, maybe he's...
02:00:45
AstroDev
I mean, he might you' he be able to drop one more, I think, but.
02:00:49
Twin Cheaks
We can't let him win.
02:00:51
AstroDev
Dude, he.
02:00:52
Twin Cheaks
i'd I'd rather have Devon 3P than have Raine win once.
02:00:56
AstroDev
Yeah, I literally, I don't cheat when.
02:00:56
Steve-O
No, I can't have Devin three Pete. I can't have Devin three Pete.
02:00:59
GREASEDAPOLES
He's the cheats.
02:00:59
AstroDev
Oh, okay. Yeah.
02:01:00
GREASEDAPOLES
He's the cheats.
02:01:00
AstroDev
I'm the chiefs, bro. It's happening.
02:01:02
Twin Cheaks
Devon's the Chiefs, yeah.
02:01:02
AstroDev
Sorry.
02:01:03
Twin Cheaks
And is Raine's not the Eagles?
02:01:05
AstroDev
What are you saying? Reigns hurts. Is that what you're saying? Yeah.
02:01:09
GREASEDAPOLES
He's the early hope.
02:01:09
Twin Cheaks
No, no.
02:01:09
AstroDev
Actually to be fair to America.
02:01:10
Twin Cheaks
That would mean I mean i hate Jalen Hurst.
02:01:11
AstroDev
Yes, because they hate him.
02:01:12
GREASEDAPOLES
To America, yeah, you're absolutely right.
02:01:12
Twin Cheaks
I don't.
02:01:13
AstroDev
Yeah, they hate him too.
02:01:14
AstroDev
Nobody wants them to win either.
02:01:14
Twin Cheaks
I just.
02:01:16
Twin Cheaks
No, because dude, he's going to be.
02:01:19
AstroDev
I would be fine losing to you and Steve, John.
02:01:19
Twin Cheaks
Dude.
02:01:24
AstroDev
I wouldn't, if I'd be fine losing the skin, I'd be fine losing to Duke.
02:01:27
Twin Cheaks
that's what i'm That's what I'm saying. rain Rain's the only one.
02:01:31
Steve-O
Everybody but Ray, that's what you're saying.
02:01:33
Twin Cheaks
Everyone but rain is what I'm saying, dude.
02:01:34
AstroDev
No, Rain and Shelly, Rain and Shelly.
02:01:38
Twin Cheaks
Wait, why is Shelly? What's wrong with Shelly?
02:01:39
AstroDev
You know what? last year, she was like, I didn't know we had to pick the route. And I was like, like, like she has been picking.
02:01:45
Steve-O
You know what though? Shelly has been picking stuff. I have seen her bidding.
02:01:49
AstroDev
But that would hurt me a little bit. I was like, fucking what? You took space marine two from me and then just forgot about it for a whole year. That's basically what you did.
02:01:56
GREASEDAPOLES
That's lovely.
02:01:56
Steve-O
Ooh, I like that though, I like that play.
02:01:56
Twin Cheaks
That's that's why you're mad. That's why to spend it all yeah, I yo real time I thought Steve was gonna put $100 of seven just and I thought about doing it myself
02:01:59
AstroDev
No.
02:01:59
GREASEDAPOLES
That's so fucking great.
02:02:00
Steve-O
See, here's the thing though, cause like, Sony came out of nowhere and they're like, we got you, Devin. And handed Devin Astrobot.
02:02:05
AstroDev
Oh, oh, it's handed. I was I so took that.
02:02:07
Steve-O
Handed.
02:02:08
AstroDev
I took that because I fucking I.
02:02:09
Steve-O
He took it off of me! He took it off of me!
02:02:11
AstroDev
that's Because you spent all your fucking money and then you had you had three dollars left to bid on fucking after about I Thought I thought a i was yeah, what are you kicking yourself for?
02:02:23
Steve-O
You wanna- you wanna- you wanna hear the thing that I'm fucking kicking myself for?
02:02:26
Twin Cheaks
How about that myself?
02:02:28
Steve-O
I initially put $40 on that.
02:02:31
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, you would have wanted $40.
02:02:32
Steve-O
I woulda- I woulda $1, Rain.
02:02:32
GREASEDAPOLES
um
02:02:33
AstroDev
yeah I'll be honest, that, that feels bad too. When you bid like 40 bucks for something that like no one even counter bid and you're like, Oh, yeah yeah actually you know John,
02:02:42
GREASEDAPOLES
And then Rain said, I would never bet over 50 for that.
02:02:45
Steve-O
but Yeah, yeah, he was like, I don't know. And I was like, yeah, but you wouldn't Ninja Gaiden 4?
02:02:47
GREASEDAPOLES
I would never do that. I was never done.
02:02:51
Steve-O
Get outta here, Rain.
02:02:53
GREASEDAPOLES
He's taking that knife. He's showing in deep.
02:02:55
AstroDev
john actually I'm not going to lie though. You were talking to a lot of shit for Ninja Gaiden for, for somebody who tried to bid for it and then lost because you were out bid.
02:03:01
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, but I didn't pay that much money on it, though.
02:03:03
Steve-O
Yeah, he didn't he didn't bid that much.
02:03:03
AstroDev
I know. Yeah, he he bid an extra.
02:03:06
Twin Cheaks
Rain put fucking 40 fucking to what did I bid like $11 or something.
02:03:08
AstroDev
Yeah, he eight bucks. You bid eight bucks. Yeah.
02:03:11
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, eight but I didn't bid 10. I I did my due diligence, Devin. That's called due diligence. That's not called trying to get a game because I believe in it. That's called due diligence. All right. I had to I got to set the bar.
02:03:21
AstroDev
but like That's literally that was me with Sid Meyers. I was like, um I put a 38 bucks or something, I think.
02:03:28
Twin Cheaks
I didn't even bother.
02:03:28
GREASEDAPOLES
He's a hell of a guy. whole we guy
02:03:30
Twin Cheaks
No, because if I went in there, I would have, I would have put a hundred dollars.
02:03:33
AstroDev
yeah
02:03:33
Twin Cheaks
Like if I went in there, the four sieve seven, I would have, I would have typed a hundred dollars just because I couldn't help myself.
02:03:34
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
02:03:37
AstroDev
26 bucks. I tried. I tried to get it for her.
02:03:40
Twin Cheaks
Like a fucking crack addict. I would have been like, I have to max out to get it.
02:03:44
Steve-O
See, right now I don't see any games that are standing out as a potential counter pick. I need to make sure my counter pick is gonna be like a sniper shot of perfection.
02:03:54
Twin Cheaks
So what so what's the strat is the strat picking counter picking a game that you don't think is going to come out or counting picking a game that you think is going to be bad?
02:04:00
AstroDev
I think the safe one is one that you don't think is going to come out unless you think somebody really made a bonehead at play. Because like the thing is, is like when you pick something like unannounced ocarina, like that's kind of like that screams counter pick me because the odds of it actually happening are real low and then you eat up a spot, you know?
02:04:19
Twin Cheaks
I.
02:04:20
Steve-O
Like unannounced Donkey Kong platforming game.
02:04:22
AstroDev
No, no, that's fucking that's a lock.
02:04:23
Steve-O
Yo, that's a lock. That's a lock.
02:04:25
AstroDev
That's a lock in my guy.
02:04:26
GREASEDAPOLES
What was the lowest rated game that somebody chose in this? Does anybody know?
02:04:30
Twin Cheaks
So far, or last season?
02:04:31
AstroDev
ah Last year with Steve, right?
02:04:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Like so far that would be more ah interesting Oh,
02:04:35
Twin Cheaks
So far, no, so far is only a couple games out.
02:04:37
AstroDev
Yeah, I mean, yeah, only a few games have come out.
02:04:37
Twin Cheaks
So I don't know if,
02:04:39
GREASEDAPOLES
oh no, no, I mean ever while you're playing yeah Like somebody really thought it was gonna be good and
02:04:41
AstroDev
Ever.
02:04:42
Steve-O
Oh, I want to see if I can look at my old leagues.
02:04:43
Twin Cheaks
ah let me let me log in.
02:04:44
AstroDev
No, I can look at. Yeah, I got them open.
02:04:45
Twin Cheaks
No, you can. You can look up the old leaks.
02:04:46
Steve-O
Yeah, you got them. You got them.
02:04:48
AstroDev
Yeah, I got them open. ah Do eight shit. So this is 20, 24.
02:04:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Not that it didn't come out, that it just was scored really low.
02:04:56
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:04:56
Steve-O
It was bad.
02:04:56
AstroDev
a Squirrel with a gun, lost five points.
02:04:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh! I think I remember. I think I remember what it was.
02:05:01
Steve-O
What was it?
02:05:02
GREASEDAPOLES
It was that vampire hunter game that Rain picked.
02:05:05
AstroDev
Well, oh, maybe.
02:05:06
Twin Cheaks
There's another one that was bad.
02:05:07
Steve-O
Oh yeah.
02:05:07
GREASEDAPOLES
It was...
02:05:08
Steve-O
The one that Xbox made.
02:05:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell was that called?
02:05:11
Steve-O
I forget that was like when we did it the first year.
02:05:11
GREASEDAPOLES
geez
02:05:14
AstroDev
Yeah. Oh, you know, all right. So Steve, Steve did. And I still think this is bullshit.
02:05:17
Twin Cheaks
Jesus Christ, this is squirrel with the gun.
02:05:19
AstroDev
Steve lost two points on casting the Frank Stone. Well, that wasn't.
02:05:23
Twin Cheaks
Oh, yeah, the Castle Frank's and rain wanted that one, too, he said.
02:05:27
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:05:27
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:05:28
Twin Cheaks
So that you should just let him have it.
02:05:30
AstroDev
Let's see here.
02:05:30
Twin Cheaks
Well, he was last play. Was it rain?
02:05:32
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:05:33
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, rain seventh place, dude, we can't let rain win, dude.
02:05:34
AstroDev
oh Oh, yeah, yeah. Rain picked Redfall, lost 11 points.
02:05:36
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
02:05:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Redfall that was it.
02:05:38
Steve-O
Redfall.
02:05:38
Twin Cheaks
red fall let's go baby red fall yeah that's a vampire game yeah that's the one so funny yeah we can't let it win dude
02:05:40
GREASEDAPOLES
I was either remember know you don't pick That was a game
02:05:40
AstroDev
And then he also countered. Yeah, dude, he also counter picked Starfield and lost 15 points. So he had three points that year. I had 120, 126 and he had three. So, you know.
02:05:57
AstroDev
Yeah, Redfall was gnarly. Detective Pikachu lost three points. Yeah.
02:06:04
Steve-O
Yeah, they they made a game back in the day and then they made a sequel.
02:06:07
AstroDev
Dude, what was he saying?
02:06:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, that was the sequel.
02:06:08
AstroDev
Yeah, so like Chris.
02:06:09
Steve-O
But like they're not popular, they're not.
02:06:10
AstroDev
Yeah, Chris, perfect example. You see somebody pick Redfall. You're like, oh, ah you're fucking dying, dude. No. Also, surprise. And again, I think, well, maybe.
02:06:19
Twin Cheaks
Wait, who picked Redfall?
02:06:20
GREASEDAPOLES
The rain rain.
02:06:20
Twin Cheaks
That was two years ago?
02:06:21
AstroDev
Rain, more rain.
02:06:21
Steve-O
Rain, that was in the 2023 one, yeah.
02:06:22
AstroDev
Yeah, it's 2023.
02:06:22
Twin Cheaks
That was two years ago?
02:06:23
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah.
02:06:24
Twin Cheaks
Oh, I wasn't in the league then.
02:06:26
AstroDev
a You weren't and then then um brave mouth picked call of duty modern warfare 3 and lost 11 points that didn't you?
02:06:30
Twin Cheaks
Oh, that's dirty.
02:06:30
Steve-O
Oh, that was the year they they went hard against Call of Duty.
02:06:33
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
02:06:34
AstroDev
Yeah, but That's what I mean No, cuz yeah Chris cuz honestly I picked call of duty and that like kind of solidified my victory last year I was worried.
02:06:35
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
02:06:36
GREASEDAPOLES
That's usually a lot though.
02:06:37
Twin Cheaks
That was the year they they they didn't vote.
02:06:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Red.
02:06:38
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:06:39
Twin Cheaks
That's the year they didn't vote for Kamala.
02:06:46
AstroDev
I was like, oh they're gonna eat shit and I got 13 points You
02:06:47
Twin Cheaks
Yeah. That was the one.
02:06:49
Steve-O
No, no, no, Astro Bot.
02:06:52
Twin Cheaks
No, I think not.
02:06:52
Steve-O
Astro Bot blew up.
02:06:53
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, but I think Call of Duty was the the gamble, though, Devin Sen.
02:06:56
Steve-O
Call of Duty didn't, Call of Duty didn't hurt.
02:06:57
AstroDev
yeah car duty was the one i was scar about
02:06:59
Twin Cheaks
That was the actual gamble, because that that could that was either going to be 13 points like it was or would have been like minus 12 or minus 15 or something.
02:07:06
Steve-O
See, that's an interesting thing. Somebody should probably bid on Call of Duty now and just hold that as trade bait.
02:07:14
AstroDev
Oh, I forgot.
02:07:14
Twin Cheaks
No.
02:07:15
AstroDev
I do forget trades, though.
02:07:16
Twin Cheaks
Why are we trading?
02:07:17
GREASEDAPOLES
It's too risky.
02:07:18
Twin Cheaks
Can we trade?
02:07:18
AstroDev
Dude, it's been it's been three weeks.
02:07:19
Twin Cheaks
Who are we trading?
02:07:21
AstroDev
All right.
02:07:21
Steve-O
Because I can be like John, John.
02:07:23
AstroDev
John, what? OK, let's.
02:07:24
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, trade me Civ, trade me Civ 7 for uh, for Metroid Prime.
02:07:25
AstroDev
Yeah. Let's see. What do you want for civ? Let's do it right now.
02:07:29
Steve-O
No.
02:07:31
Twin Cheaks
No, no, I wasn't finished.
02:07:31
AstroDev
Whoa. No.
02:07:32
Twin Cheaks
I wasn't finished.
02:07:33
Steve-O
I'm listening, I'm listening, I'm listening.
02:07:33
Twin Cheaks
I wasn't finished.
02:07:35
AstroDev
Damn.
02:07:35
Twin Cheaks
I ah saying Metroid Prime and Dispatch for Civ 7.
02:07:40
Steve-O
I don't even know if those games are coming out.
02:07:42
AstroDev
Oh, wow. Dude, venture prize. A hundred percent coming out.
02:07:44
Twin Cheaks
Listen to this guy.
02:07:45
Steve-O
I don't even know.
02:07:46
Twin Cheaks
Listen to this guy.
02:07:46
Steve-O
I don't even know. Day and date, baby. Day and date.
02:07:48
Twin Cheaks
Alright, then counter pick it then, bitch. Put your money where your mouth is.
02:07:51
Steve-O
yeah
02:07:51
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
02:07:52
Steve-O
yeah
02:07:53
Twin Cheaks
but what you why worry about this then
02:07:54
Steve-O
ah oh Oh, I'm not stupid.
02:07:55
Twin Cheaks
oh
02:07:57
Steve-O
Oh, I'm not stupid.
02:07:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Bait. I saw that bait coming a mile away.
02:08:01
Twin Cheaks
a oh
02:08:02
Steve-O
yeah
02:08:04
AstroDev
yeah that
02:08:05
Twin Cheaks
oh
02:08:06
AstroDev
which
02:08:07
Twin Cheaks
Not a lot of what's it I don't want to seven I don't know maybe I do think it's good Yeah, maybe yeah Plus
02:08:09
Steve-O
When it comes out as a 77 dude I will I will be absolutely in tears if that happens sorry what no no dude come on
02:08:12
AstroDev
Steve I'll give you ah You Steve
02:08:17
Twin Cheaks
two points right so
02:08:18
AstroDev
I will give you south of midnight and meaner the Hollower for system South of midnight and meaner the Hollower.
02:08:24
Twin Cheaks
That's you fuck that's dirt that's whore. That's so that's hurt.
02:08:27
AstroDev
Yeah, I mean a hollow is the fucking Trouble night guys.
02:08:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Mean of a hobbler?
02:08:30
Twin Cheaks
That's dirt That's dirt dude, that's not save seven Can you give money keep we trade
02:08:31
AstroDev
It's a shovel night guys Steve
02:08:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Mean of a hobbler, Steve.
02:08:34
AstroDev
Castlevania Shovel Knight guy. You're not gonna take that. That's free money. That's free real estate, dude. I'll give you Hold on.
02:08:39
Steve-O
Yeah, i I also want $30.
02:08:43
GREASEDAPOLES
In real money?
02:08:45
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can I'm pretty sure Coured yeah, okay.
02:08:46
Steve-O
You can, you can trade money.
02:08:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, yeah, give them.
02:08:47
Steve-O
No deal, no deal.
02:08:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, you.
02:08:50
Steve-O
idea No No deal.
02:08:52
AstroDev
I'll give you silk song Come on do it dude.
02:08:54
Steve-O
No deal.
02:08:56
AstroDev
Give me I needed points actually ah Yeah, hold on hold on let me
02:08:57
Twin Cheaks
I let me let me look at the trees.
02:08:57
Steve-O
With just about like the the budget you have for trading and and
02:08:58
GREASEDAPOLES
So you could buy a game off somebody with just money if they approved the trade.
02:09:04
AstroDev
Wait, let me propose a trade.
02:09:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
02:09:05
AstroDev
So if I, I'm just testing it, right? So yeah, yeah.
02:09:07
GREASEDAPOLES
So if you put all of you like 80 bucks to buy Civ off of Steve, Civ seven.
02:09:11
AstroDev
So I can, my offer is ad game and budget.
02:09:14
Twin Cheaks
Oh, you can't give money.
02:09:15
AstroDev
So I could be like, John, you know, I'm going to offer you a silk song or Metroid prime four, and I'll give you $10.
02:09:16
Steve-O
Oh, pretty good.
02:09:19
Twin Cheaks
ah Oh man, that changes things.
02:09:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Nice.
02:09:27
AstroDev
John, I will send this right now.
02:09:27
GREASEDAPOLES
It's pretty good.
02:09:27
Twin Cheaks
with silk song?
02:09:28
AstroDev
I'll send this right now.
02:09:31
GREASEDAPOLES
It's pretty good.
02:09:31
Twin Cheaks
Wait, let me, dude, no.
02:09:32
AstroDev
No, I'm not taking that. That's fucking crazy, man. I want some songs.
02:09:34
Twin Cheaks
Yeah, no way.
02:09:35
AstroDev
So songs. So song is a 93. If it comes out.
02:09:42
Twin Cheaks
Also, I'd be sitting with a lot of money that I could offer Steve back.
02:09:44
AstroDev
Metroid Prime for.
02:09:47
AstroDev
Broken.
02:09:48
Twin Cheaks
I could offer Steve some of his body back for Civ 7.
02:09:50
AstroDev
Steve, I will give you I will give you 85 dollars for seven.
02:09:55
Steve-O
Whoo, that's a lot.
02:09:56
AstroDev
Yeah, I'm not doing that. du
02:09:58
Steve-O
That's a lot, but Civ is projected to get me 14 points, so.
02:10:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Guys gotta really start taking some risks. Do it early.
02:10:05
Steve-O
Start living big.
02:10:05
AstroDev
It's February, February.
02:10:05
Twin Cheaks
It's hard though, yeah, it's hard because it's so early
02:10:08
GREASEDAPOLES
As a conscientious observer of this whole thing, I just wanna say you guys aren't taking enough risks.
02:10:11
AstroDev
Yeah. Honestly, Chris, when it's like when I feel like you really should be locked in is after the key leaves like the.
02:10:21
Steve-O
Oh, the summer games.
02:10:22
AstroDev
Yeah, the summer, the summer game fest, like if your shit's not locked in at that point, you just not paying attention, baby.
02:10:28
GREASEDAPOLES
You gonna let Jeff Keeley decide what games you're gonna pick, Devin, really?
02:10:31
AstroDev
I mean, he's basically e three. So yes, key three, dude. Yeah.
02:10:35
GREASEDAPOLES
No, I don't know. Be your own man.
02:10:37
Steve-O
I think we packed this one up.
02:10:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Stand on your own feet.
02:10:38
AstroDev
Yeah, we did.
02:10:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Pack it up.
02:10:39
Steve-O
Guys, thank you all so much for being

Upcoming David Lynch Presentation

02:10:41
Steve-O
here. We'll be back next week. Chris, um later in February, you're planning on doing the David Lynch.
02:10:44
GREASEDAPOLES
What?
02:10:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Probably going to che shoot for the end of February.
02:10:50
Steve-O
Okay.
02:10:51
GREASEDAPOLES
Because I'm going to finish everything.
02:10:51
AstroDev
But it's the short month, so like, you know, not too long.
02:10:54
Steve-O
It's right around the corner, right around the corner.
02:10:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I'll probably finish by next week, but I'm going to wrap some notes and stuff. Present it properly. Properly.
02:11:03
AstroDev
Properly.
02:11:04
GREASEDAPOLES
and then get Stin and Tim involved, either one or both.
02:11:06
Steve-O
That's it.
02:11:06
AstroDev
In.
02:11:06
Steve-O
You know what? Stinn.
02:11:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Stim.
02:11:10
AstroDev
Stan.
02:11:10
GREASEDAPOLES
Stim.
02:11:10
Steve-O
I mean, he's going to, he's going to probably cry the whole podcast.
02:11:12
Steve-O
So yeah, that's true.
02:11:12
GREASEDAPOLES
That's fine. I mean, you guys cry all the time. I'm used to it.

Closing Remarks

02:11:17
Steve-O
We're big babies.
02:11:17
GREASEDAPOLES
Just crying right now. Devin's crying right now.
02:11:20
AstroDev
Yeah, I'm crying at the fucking bad moon. He's all.
02:11:23
Steve-O
Those come out. Did you get out of here?
02:11:27
AstroDev
Steve, I will give you the first.
02:11:28
GREASEDAPOLES
you know
02:11:29
Steve-O
All right.
02:11:30
Twin Cheaks
Yeah.
02:11:30
Steve-O
We're done. We're done. See y'all later. Have a good one.
02:11:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Good night.
02:11:33
AstroDev
Later.
02:11:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Good night.