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AstroDev: Hello, you are listening to the all new anti fanboy podcast for the week of January twenty seven twenty twenty five. Oh, me. Oh, my. How are you all doing? It's another week, but we're done with the anti fan and anti fan is in the can. And now we're just ready to start the news proper. How are you doing, everybody? As always, it's me, Devin Kopek with me, Steve Otiri.
Steve-O: Currently and temporarily.
GREASEDAPOLES: Ew, what?
AstroDev: Christopher Kalanti And that guy that tweeted I'm glad David Lynch died John Suarez I Don't know why you said that dude but I Don't know why I always pick on John on these Yeah, I said the man who made this I
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, I'm doing all right, Devin. That's what I'm asking.
Steve-O: Ooh.
GREASEDAPOLES: Woo, hot take.
eraserhead: Oh, man.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hot take Suarez.
Steve-O: Ooh.
eraserhead: Ooh.
GREASEDAPOLES: Sizzling hot take Suarez.
eraserhead: Scorch and hot take.
GREASEDAPOLES: Eraser it may be hard. That's scorching hot Suarez right there.
eraserhead: You guys did it. You guys did it. You guys trying to goon a razor head later on a discord chat.
Steve-O: Goon racer head That was a good joke that was a really good joke
eraserhead: can We can do it.
AstroDev: Dude, goon, but not forgotten.
eraserhead: Oh, God. Don't do that. Don't tell me that.
AstroDev: Oh, boy.
GREASEDAPOLES: oh
AstroDev: Anyway, how you how's everyone? How's everyone doing?
GREASEDAPOLES: Much better after that joke. Thank you, Doug.
AstroDev: Oh, you're well. I can't I can't take full credit. I stole it from a sign. That some guy brought to a goon meetup on a Reddit that I saw.
Steve-O: A sign? Oh.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh shit. You're going to those?
eraserhead: Memorial, yeah, it was a memorial.
GREASEDAPOLES: I didn't see you there.
AstroDev: ah
GREASEDAPOLES: I,
AstroDev: No, it was a memorial for the the goon guy in the car And literally somebody had a sign that said But yeah, but somebody brought us they okay
eraserhead: No, ah don't mention them. You said.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, no that guy did John told me that story Jesus right Steve Steve knows I guess oh shit fitting
eraserhead: You're not forgotten.
Steve-O: I don't know about this story. I don't know about this story.
eraserhead: right, so all right, so the story is there's this guy that went viral because this woman that was working drive through at a coffee shop. This fucking music god damn it the girl was videotaping she's videotaping this guy that pulled up and he had no pants on and I guess he was like jerking off or getting ready to jerk off for some reason and It went viral and then he ended up killing himself Stop playing the music.
eraserhead: It's actually kind of a horrible gruesome gruesome story It's a gruesome story
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, I think you can just fine bustle me worse.
AstroDev: ah yes ze yeah he
eraserhead: So, yeah, so like it's been it's been mean to death on on on the timelines.
AstroDev: So yeah goon meetup
eraserhead: But um Devin, I guess, found out that they a bunch of people went to the coffee shop like after it closed to have a memorial service for him, like all other, quote, ah quote, gooners like when.
AstroDev: And some guy brought a sign that said goon, but not forgotten.
eraserhead: Well, are they trolling?
GREASEDAPOLES: ah
AstroDev: Cause the cops showed up, the cops showed up and broke it up.
eraserhead: But there were like 100 people there like. Moment of silence.
GREASEDAPOLES: That I don't know what that is I Will be prepared to shoot you gooners in the deck I That is really sad and I don't know when does trolling turn into mourning
AstroDev: Yeah, dude.
Steve-O: It was just one cop, it was RoboCop in that one scene. Were all the guys with no pants for running in?
Steve-O: man and and and la la la la la la
GREASEDAPOLES: That's really the question that this is, if it is morning. I don't know, man. that's This is weird. It's weird. That's very weird.
AstroDev: Well, I think it's not as bad as that Superman CG. Am I right, fellas?
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, come on, dude.
Steve-O: Ohhhhhh...
AstroDev: Come on.
eraserhead: People keep throwing a dragon.
GREASEDAPOLES: All right, guys.
AstroDev: Up top, up top, up top.
eraserhead: That's so weird, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: Kevin, if I could fly at the speed of light, but my eye just slid a little bit to the left when I did it, would it still not be the coolest thing in the world?
AstroDev: but but
AstroDev: I mean, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, exactly.
AstroDev: feel
GREASEDAPOLES: It would, wouldn't it?
AstroDev: It looks cool. Yeah, it looks cool. I don't know. I agree with John. It's a relax.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that's ridiculous.
AstroDev: We're getting, you know, it's just, you know, taters being haters.
Steve-O: Is this Sonic all over again? Are people being doing...
AstroDev: No, no, because Sonic, I would still argue to this day that there was a case there and then they made the right decision.
Steve-O: Okay, okay, this is just the the Snyder...
AstroDev: This is a Steve. Do you know what we're talking about? You know what we're talking about?
Steve-O: Nah, I don't know about this.
AstroDev: The Superman. There's a basically like the Superman teaser came out like a new Superman teaser.
Steve-O: Is this sort of the... Hold on.
GREASEDAPOLES: ya ah Yeah,
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: And the very, there was like a little bit of new footage at the very last second. And it's him flying and people are critiquing it.
AstroDev: And Steve, you should in your, you know, just when he got a minute, just look it up and tell us how how terrible it is and how it how it broke the internet because it's so bad.
GREASEDAPOLES: Devon, didn't you didn' you post it in something?
AstroDev: I thought I did. I think I just.
Steve-O: Wait, are we talking about him just flying in the like the snow ice part?
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah, and he spins.
GREASEDAPOLES: i think Oh wait, you texted it to me, that's right.
AstroDev: He does a little spin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
eraserhead: Yeah, there's and there was a new teaser. I texted it to you guys.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hold on, let me get the image.
Steve-O: I don't know.
eraserhead: But now like it's making the rounds on the internet, and there are people like fucking freaking out saying it looks really bad.
Steve-O: I'm not really.
Steve-O: I'm not catching any of this.
eraserhead: but
AstroDev: You're not, not, actually.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hold on, Steve, I got you, I got you.
Steve-O: but No, I'm like, i I'm watching the scene right now.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, I know, it's it's one of the, I think if you freeze frame, you see it.
eraserhead: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: But here you go, bud, this is is what we're talking about.
Steve-O: Oh, we talk about when he does his little barrel roll and he gets pink eye in the one eye?
AstroDev: Yeah, well, that's what everybody's upset about.
eraserhead: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, look at like the chat talk if you will.
AstroDev: a
GREASEDAPOLES: Just real quick, take a look.
AstroDev: Yeah, it's with the Internet.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's what I'm talking about.
AstroDev: And, you know, there was a post said Superman, more like Stupid Man, and that's when they posted and I laughed. So that that.
eraserhead: It's literally like a frame, like one frame.
GREASEDAPOLES: It is very silly.
eraserhead: They call it his eye.
AstroDev: Steve, you got to turn this fucking music off and it's killing me.
Steve-O: but
AstroDev: Yeah, God.
GREASEDAPOLES: I don't...
Steve-O: I forgot I was playing.
GREASEDAPOLES: i I mean, the mustache is is way worse, the CGI mustache.
AstroDev: Oh my God. Yeah. It's like, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: so
AstroDev: Yeah. Dude. Talk about a glass house. Those Snyder people, dude.
eraserhead: Well, James Gunn said, like, because a lot of people were claiming that ah the CGI And the AI looks really bad or something. People just claim AI for everything.
AstroDev: GG. I get it. Yeah.
eraserhead: But um but James Gunn said that there was no CGI for that scene at all.
Steve-O: Pretty good.
AstroDev: No, dude. I think that's literally him on a rig.
GREASEDAPOLES: But him flying?
AstroDev: I think that's him on like a rig.
eraserhead: Yeah. And there's a drone that's filming it or whatever, like or a camera film filming them and whatever.
AstroDev: there Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, whoa.
Steve-O: You know that that's just that actor's nightmare. That someone caught his like one eye that is off a little bit.
AstroDev: Oh my God, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: Drifting slightly.
Steve-O: Yeah. It was like, that's the thing. Every time I take a photo, I always like, that's when I look at it and I noticed that my one eye is slightly a little bit higher than my other eye.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh You got a yeah, I mean no wait
Steve-O: Not that lazy.
AstroDev: ah It's a drowsy eye.
Steve-O: It just like ah set up a little bit. It was like somebody went into my sliders and like clicked it like five up.
AstroDev: Is it sleepy eye? Yeah, you got drowsy eye.
Steve-O: He's got the Columbo thing going.
eraserhead: I think it looks I think it looks really good. I think the shot looks really good.
Steve-O: I think the shot looks great.
eraserhead: I don't know why people are freak out I Don't know.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: It's a great shot.
eraserhead: I don't know why people freak it out No, but it's it's what it is is this it's the Snyder it's the Snyder guys that are Snyder guys are slowing it down to fucking one frame a second so they could find shit that's wrong with it That's the problem
Steve-O: If you didn't tell me about this, I would have lived my life happily.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I mean, Peter Falk had a fake eye, though.
AstroDev: Well.
Steve-O: he might He might have a fake eye.
GREASEDAPOLES: Who might? That's true.
AstroDev: Yeah. And they're saying, look how bad this looks. Yeah. And yeah. And again, what we're talking about is, uh, somebody's people on the internet slowed the frame by frame and found a shot of his eyes looking askew.
AstroDev: And, um, you know what?
Steve-O: but
AstroDev: We're all, the internet's making fun of it now.
GREASEDAPOLES: you know You know, people pay for that. That id actor, he can do that on command.
Steve-O: He can he really can he's wonderful He's a Nosferatu now Devin that's a big deal
AstroDev: People pay for that.
GREASEDAPOLES: You can't do millions of dollars, Devin.
AstroDev: Yo, what are you is agent, Chris, like, Hey, don't feel bad. People, some people wish they could do that.
GREASEDAPOLES: You could be a creepy, weird clown man.
AstroDev: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, his eye drifts all the time.
AstroDev: yeah you yeah You want to be a Nosferatu. You keep up that weird. I think you more years.
GREASEDAPOLES: You guys didn't see it. His eye literally drifted all the way away.
AstroDev: Boom.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like it was just the white in one scene.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: It just happens. He can't control it. which is awesome for an actor to have that ability.
Steve-O: just let I mean Undertaker can do that.
AstroDev: yeah and um You know, you know who could do that permanently?
GREASEDAPOLES: Kenny?
Steve-O: Both eyes.
GREASEDAPOLES: Kenny, really?
AstroDev: Sean Michaels.
GREASEDAPOLES: What?
Steve-O: Oh yeah, well that's the thing.
AstroDev: Yeah, pain drops him on his head.
Steve-O: He got hit by Kane, yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah. Can't hit him with the head.
Steve-O: And then he got the lazy eye kind of going in the one eye.
GREASEDAPOLES: This is really true.
Steve-O: That's a true story, that's not a joke.
AstroDev: It's a joke, Chris. I'm laughing.
Steve-O: She doesn't respect.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm sorry. Sorry, sorry, he's sorry.
Steve-O: Dude, do you even know Kane's backstory?
AstroDev: Pain hit him.
GREASEDAPOLES: Does he ever a fucked up by two?
AstroDev: Yeah, he's he's a piece of shit human being in real life. That's Cain's back.
Steve-O: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: What's wrong with his eyes? What's wrong with his eyes?
Steve-O: They got burned by the Undertaker, his brother!
AstroDev: Oh.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hey, listen, all I'm saying.
Steve-O: He also carries a hook around and...
GREASEDAPOLES: Wear it like armor.
Steve-O: I think I might be factoring the movie in, too.
GREASEDAPOLES: Corn corn sweat. Wear it like armor, bud. All right.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's what buds.
Steve-O: Butt sweat. Wear, like, armor.
AstroDev: Yeah, hopefully he's fine.
GREASEDAPOLES: There's nothing wrong with that. And you know what? That that new footage wasn't really much anyway.
AstroDev: Sorry, oh, yeah,
GREASEDAPOLES: to critique that was new. I think there was like one scene with Lex Luthor stepping off of a hella carrier or something.
eraserhead: Yeah, and with fucking Carrera sunglasses on.
AstroDev: yeah yeah, you know what the hide his fucking eyes dude everyone's gonna be wearing sunglasses in this movie Open season on weird eyeballs dude
eraserhead: I love that shit.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. Probably for the best.
eraserhead: Yeah, because like, yeah, because what was the what was the thing that that was wrong last time? It was Guy Gardner's hair because they'd never seen Guy Gardner before in their lives.
AstroDev: oh yeah Yeah, that that was that was exposing that was like you're exposed No
eraserhead: They're complaining about that.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that was exposed.
eraserhead: I was just exp exposed. Yeah, I was exposing that they don't know shit about anything. And then I'll do this just like. Everybody just keeps pointing to the suit and trying to say that it looks bad. And and it's like, it doesn't look bad. You're just.
Steve-O: It's a bunch of heckin' hopped up Zack Snyder fans.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: i like that I like that it looks a little baggy, because it looks like ah a blanket that was turned into a suit.
Steve-O: He's trying to bury it.
GREASEDAPOLES: you know like That's what it should look like, right? Because it's whenever he was swaddled in on his journey to Earth. That's the way I always thought about it, right?
Steve-O: You know, on the way I'm thinking about it is it looks a little baggy because, you know, he's, he's, he's doing a lot of cardio throughout these movies.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, shit, he's getting thinner.
Steve-O: Like he's not doing lift and he's just getting a little more.
eraserhead: I mean, he's not he's not shooting the basketball. He's just running around. He's not he's not doing anything.
Steve-O: I mean, I'm seeing him zipping around, zooming around. I haven't seen him lift in anything heavy.
eraserhead: ah catch He's not catching the football. He's just right he's just doing cardio out there.
Steve-O: He's just doing cardio. it Guy's going to be a string bean by the end of the movie and people are going to say like, eat more.
eraserhead: All right.
GREASEDAPOLES: and what i
AstroDev: I think it's because he flew too fast and rant blew apart that gypsy lady.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm curious.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm curious as to if how they cover it up that he's been a active, but nobody has seen him.
Steve-O: Oh, yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Do you guys remember? I don't know. They did this thing with the flash where he got to, to, to be so fast and so good at what he was doing that nobody ever saw him again.
AstroDev: Oh, that was like kingdom come flash, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: And it was Kingdom Come Flash, right?
AstroDev: We're just like, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: um I kind of think they're gonna do that with Superman to a degree. Like he's been saving people, but it's almost like they, it's so fast that it's, they can't even see him.
Steve-O: Mm.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like it's, yeah, yeah.
eraserhead: Oh, you're talking about kingdom the Kingdom Come Flash story?
GREASEDAPOLES: I think there's gonna be some element to that why he, he's been active.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: Right? Where Flash is just a force of nature at that point and nothing ever goes bad.
GREASEDAPOLES: And I think,
eraserhead: That's such a weird and interesting concept, actually.
GREASEDAPOLES: maybe he starts to slow down and show himself more, you know, like, and and people get to see him now. That's, that's maybe where they're going with it. I don't know.
Steve-O: I think he's gonna do the thing where he shakes his face real fast so it looks a little fatter.
GREASEDAPOLES: I, Oh,
Steve-O: Or he's blurring all the photographs or something.
AstroDev: You know what?
GREASEDAPOLES: the Jacob's ladder move, right?
AstroDev: I'll be honest. I think, I think the eye gets even more cross -eyed when he's Clark Kent.
Steve-O: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: all Like both eyes, both eyes slide.
AstroDev: He just comes up. Yeah. He shows up and Lois is like, Oh, what the fuck?
GREASEDAPOLES: Hi.
Steve-O: Maybe Superman does actually need glasses.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hi.
AstroDev: Hi, Lois.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hi, are you Lois?
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: Yes, I'm Lois.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, you better believe it.
Steve-O: You must be Clark.
Steve-O: Have you met my friend? Have you met Jimmy?
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh yeah, this guy's great.
Steve-O: why Why are you shouting?
eraserhead: yeah mean i'm Yeah, I'm looking at the ah page from Kingdom Come.
GREASEDAPOLES: that's i That's the new Clark, baby. You gotta get used to it.
GREASEDAPOLES: I don't know. That's just something I've seen.
eraserhead: Keystone City has become utopia because nothing ever goes bad because the Flash is just constantly running around saving everybody.
GREASEDAPOLES: I fucking love that, by the way.
eraserhead: No one sees him, no one hears him.
GREASEDAPOLES: I always did. Yeah.
Steve-O: Does he just grab burgers? Like they're like, you gotta leave a burger on your wind sill for the flash.
AstroDev: I think he's like I think he's like yeah, I think like John said I don't think he's like he's like not even human at that point.
eraserhead: I don't know.
AstroDev: He's just like
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, he's just a force.
eraserhead: He's everywhere at once. He's everywhere at once.
AstroDev: yeah
eraserhead: That's so cool.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: It's everywhere you wanna be.
eraserhead: He was. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: But anyway, um i'm I'm excited with this, the the visuals and whatever aesthetic they're trying to do.
AstroDev: and never
Steve-O: It's gonna be awesome.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's cool. It's cool. and
AstroDev: You know, I'll be that guy.
Steve-O: Be that guy.
AstroDev: I don't think I don't think it's gonna be good.
eraserhead: No, you are.
AstroDev: I think it's gonna be bad.
eraserhead: You do.
AstroDev: No, I do.
eraserhead: Oh.
AstroDev: I'm very excited for it.
eraserhead: Off of that off of that. No, did you guys see the fuck it? I think the showrunner for Daredevil is fucking yapping. He's yapping right now.
Steve-O: You happen about what?
GREASEDAPOLES: He is slinging dick right now He said that and I quote the worst part of the original Daredevil series is
AstroDev: Oh, yeah, dude.
eraserhead: He was yapping. He was yapping the other the other day, right, that when he was talking about ah what was he saying?
GREASEDAPOLES: was just two characters sitting in a room talking about what it's like to be a hero.
eraserhead: Yes, that I said it to all you guys are just that the clip where Frank and
AstroDev: I think he just said it to me.
eraserhead: Frank and Matt are just literally talking about what they're doing for like 10 minutes in an old scene. It's actually really funny.
Steve-O: so
GREASEDAPOLES: he
eraserhead: Anyway, the the same guy, Chris. He's overextending, I think now he's he's taken on the Kings. He's talking shit on penguin. We're not talking shit on penguin, but he's saying that he was saying he compares the show to to the penguin that says we're even more grounded.
eraserhead: even less stylized, even more rooted in the here and now. I love Penguin. We're a little faster, meaner, cleaner in our to storytelling. Like, why why are you doing this? Why is he overextending?
GREASEDAPOLES: o
eraserhead: Why is he reaching? We haven't even seen it yet.
GREASEDAPOLES: mmm yeah he's being uh he's uh setting it's it screams insecurity unfortunately that's the uh the uh that's what i say at least um yeah it's just
eraserhead: That's like if the Penguin guy came out and was like, we're better than Breaking Bad. I don't know what to tell you. Or she was better than Breaking Bad. It doesn't. yeah
Steve-O: Yeah.
eraserhead: Oh, man.
eraserhead: Like don I don't even see how they're you they could even remotely be ah comparable. You know, they're not they're to go to completely different shows, it feels like like penguins like.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, one's about a villain, the other's about a hero. That's pretty definitively different in my mind.
eraserhead: Right.
GREASEDAPOLES: But I guess what he's saying is more about tone and the setting. He wants it to be grounded feeling in reality. and
eraserhead: There's nothing I mean, if you're talking about superhero movies.
GREASEDAPOLES: And...
eraserhead: i don't think you get you you I don't think you can get much much more grounded than the Penguin. Like, it's superhero properties or whatever.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. Yeah, I think I, the only area where I think he's bigger than life is how well he's able to manipulate large groups of people or like politicians and stuff to get like real things changed.
eraserhead: Right, right, right.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like they, they and they fit the reality of the show rather well, right?
eraserhead: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But those are those turn those those concepts are grounded and in the scope of what the DC, what comic book properties are anyway, if you think about it.
eraserhead: Right.
GREASEDAPOLES: It all works within its own e ecosystem, but like,
eraserhead: And then he got a Daredevil show, so like like go on.
GREASEDAPOLES: And listen, i'm ah i'm i I had my issues with the Netflix Daredevil show. you know I'm also not making a new one.
eraserhead: But even if anything, if anything, like don't don't you think yeah, like don't you think that they would use talk about being more grounded, less stylist and more rooted in the here and now?
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah but And I don't have to worry about it.
eraserhead: in comparison to their own Marvel Cinematic Universe, like maybe that's what he should have been doing.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think that's closer to what he means more than anything. anything
eraserhead: That's what it should be, cause that, I mean, that's what Daredevil is anyway, like in general, like compared to like, you know, the Avengers or like a Spider -Man, the Spider -Man comics, like that kind of thing.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'll tell you what, it is a good sign to see the level of violence in the trailer for born again.
eraserhead: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: So like, if that's what he's saying, if that's what he's trying to say about like the new direction that Disney MCU shows wanna go.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's cool. I'm down with that. But yeah, just don't mention the penguin. Don't even bring it up.
eraserhead: Yeah, just don't put it.
Steve-O: Don't bring him into this.
eraserhead: Just keep.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, don't bring it up.
eraserhead: Keep. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Don't compare yourself to something that's better.
eraserhead: Get your get my wife's. Keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth or whatever, whatever. Will Smith said to Chris Rock.
GREASEDAPOLES: Especially for a reboot, right? Like there's a lot of writing on this. There's also a comparison easy comparison to make with the old series. So it's like, You're setting yourself up for failure if you do that.
Steve-O: I think if you just build off of that, if you're like, wow, you know what? We love the old series, but like this new stuff is bigger, or bad, or better. Like, I think that's fair.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's all you had to say.
Steve-O: Like, but being like, also, yo, fuck Cheers.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's all you had to say.
Steve-O: Like, what are you talking about my guy?
GREASEDAPOLES: Our show's way more gritty than Cheers.
Steve-O: Dude, nobody knows your name here.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, yeah. I get it. Of course it's gonna be more gritty than Cheers. You idiot. um Yeah, no, it's ah yeah it's just insecure and hopefully it's good after all this fucking shit talking that's been happening.
GREASEDAPOLES: Cause if it's bad, oi, this guy's not getting any more work. He's stepping on toes.
Steve-O: Do we got better lawyers than law and order?
GREASEDAPOLES: well
Steve-O: Like it's crazy.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's a bold statement to make on a first season of a reboot.
Steve-O: Yeah, especially a Disney Plus Marvel show.
GREASEDAPOLES: you know
AstroDev: Yeah, so that that was what I said. I was like, dude, you're on Disney Plus, like right now, which is not the best batting average at all.
AstroDev: So like, there's total down.
eraserhead: Yeah.
Steve-O: What are the best shows on Disney Plus like X -Men 97?
eraserhead: and why Watch chill. Take pill.
AstroDev: X -Men 97. I still.
Steve-O: Louie like what yeah what else?
GREASEDAPOLES: You said they own FX.
AstroDev: No, I mean, like if you're talking Marvel, I think like Agatha was really good. and Miss Marvel was really good.
Steve-O: But where's Agatha in comparison to penguin though?
GREASEDAPOLES: They own FX.
AstroDev: Right. yeah Exactly.
GREASEDAPOLES: Are you are, Steve, are you lumping in all everything they own?
AstroDev: It's like.
GREASEDAPOLES: Cause that there's FX too, right? They own that now.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: So Fargo, all that stuff.
Steve-O: You're right, you're right.
AstroDev: I mean, if you're just talking about the Marvel, f er the Marvel Disney Plus shows, it's like there's a there's quality there, like not going to deny that.
AstroDev: But it's like there's a lot of mud out there, too, though.
Steve-O: What is the best?
Steve-O: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: There's X -Men 97, there's 60, oh crap.
AstroDev: and
GREASEDAPOLES: And then there's everything else.
Steve-O: Yeah, what's the what's the best like live action show right now on Disney Plus for Marvel?
AstroDev: And then there's us.
AstroDev: a Is I mean, I don't the best like Agatha was ah definitely one of the best. It's up there for sure.
Steve-O: OK.
AstroDev: And like, you know, it's like I think the best show up until the ending was WandaVision. Like that was appointment viewing. I would watch that in the morning before I went to work.
eraserhead: About Loki.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, but that's before I knew the the fix was in.
eraserhead: Everybody loves Loki.
AstroDev: No, that's exact. Loki's I'm one of the few I didn't like love Loki season two.
GREASEDAPOLES: I didn't love it either. I didn't love the first season either.
Steve-O: Yeah, I didn't watch too.
AstroDev: Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's just like, yeah, it's not penguin, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's a lot of like.
AstroDev: It's not just isn't sorry.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's a lot of selling Loki.
Steve-O: it's It's harder to like get me into a season two with a Marvel show, I feel.
AstroDev: Yeah. I like to be fair, it's not true like it shouldn't try to be that like, you know, it should be, I'm not even upset at the vibe.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, initially I kind of thought, I kind of thought all MC shows are just going to be like a one season thing.
AstroDev: It's just like, don't bump on that because I know it's not going to be close to that, you know?
GREASEDAPOLES: Like that's kind of when, when the first started, that's what I would have preferred to. I guess that already happened really, except for Loki, right? What else got a second season?
AstroDev: Yeah, ah like Agatha is kind of a season two, like kind of, right?
Steve-O: It's a semi, like it's a spin off.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah, it's a spin off really.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: But I think, I know there's gotta be one other one that I'm not thinking of.
Steve-O: I think you're right. I mean, the the cartoon, the what if got three seasons already.
AstroDev: Yeah, what if got three seasons and I mean, but it's what it literally what if like it shouldn't. I don't know. It's. ah
Steve-O: It's the one show you wish was getting a little wilder. And it seems to like weirdly go like,
AstroDev: It's like, yeah yeah, I'll be honest.
Steve-O: linear storytelling strangely.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, that's the problem. You're in that point where they don't want to character assassinate anybody and they're they're playing everything with kid gloves.
AstroDev: That was dude season one. Yeah. Listen, season one of that, like this is where like really. I don't want to say the cracks weren't already there, but this was like the crumbling of it is when what if season one came out and Kevin Feige is like, oh yeah, no, it's you should like watch it to like understand what's going to happen.
AstroDev: And I was like, why? Why?
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: It's literally what if this is the one fucking show that you shouldn't have to do anything for. Just watch.
Steve-O: You had a free pass.
AstroDev: or Yeah, you could. I should be able to just turn on episode season two, episode six and just like be in the same spot. Like what? Why, dude?
Steve-O: Make this your twilight zone.
AstroDev: And
Steve-O: Make this your, are you afraid of the dark?
AstroDev: Yeah, and the fact that there was like, a ah like a continuity that you kind of sort I don't you didn't need to write but it was like, if you wanted to be caught up, you had to watch that to before you watched Dr.
GREASEDAPOLES: Mmhmm. Serialize it.
AstroDev: Strange.
Steve-O: a
AstroDev: And I was like, this is No, like, no, dude, I stop it. And even and again, we're talking like very minimal, but it's just the fact that he like went out and said that.
AstroDev: I was like, dude, like stop just. Yeah, the TV shit, it's just it's too much.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: Not saying you can't make TV shows, but just fucking chill, dude, please.
Steve-O: TV's a big ask of your audience.
GREASEDAPOLES: Sure is.
Steve-O: Asking for two hours from some, like someone is easier than asking for like several hours.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, it's it's a commitment.
Steve-O: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's a it's a way bigger commitment.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: And to be honest, most Marvel shows kind of just feel like the same shit over and over again. And I can't I would never I didn't want to commit myself to any more of it because it just felt samey, you know, stylistically and tonally.
GREASEDAPOLES: Everything was kind of funny, you know, like it's just Even the werewolf show, they tried to make werewolf by night. Like it wasn't, I did not like that at all.
AstroDev: I like that one, I'll be honest.
GREASEDAPOLES: It wasn't scary in any way.
AstroDev: I, think you know, to me, I saw it once and I went, huh, okay. Like.
GREASEDAPOLES: I just, everything feels like it's the same tone in all of their shows. And that stinks.
AstroDev: Whose fault is that? Chris, is it Robert Downey Jr's fault or is it Joss Whedon's fault?
GREASEDAPOLES: I don't know.
GREASEDAPOLES: I have no clue.
AstroDev: You know.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's the people that keep making it that way it's fall. Like do something different.
AstroDev: Yeah. The problem is, is, is when somebody tries to do something different, it doesn't make money.
GREASEDAPOLES: ah That's it Well, that's hopefully Daredevil born again is that like that's them taking a chance making something totally different That's maybe not so hehehe look.
AstroDev: So they're like, well, fuck. Okay.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Okay. We are you know?
AstroDev: Well, I did read that he's the the showrunner, because again, he just keeps talking. He's like, yeah, we're just going to pretend the whole She -Hulk thing didn't happen.
eraserhead: keeps ypping yp yap and
AstroDev: He's like not saying it never happened, but he's like, we're just not going to like touch on that.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's fine.
eraserhead: what that
GREASEDAPOLES: It's fine.
eraserhead: but he smashed they smashed
AstroDev: Yeah, that he like went off and.
eraserhead: that
GREASEDAPOLES: But I, I, that's fine.
eraserhead: are What's wrong with the tone of Matt fucking fucking everybody?
GREASEDAPOLES: If they want to, if they want to maintain the tone that they have, that's probably a good thing. Like I, I'm okay with that because, you know, yeah that's all I'm saying.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: I mean that's basically Matt in the comics
AstroDev: Well, it's it's but that's that is goof that's as goofy as he's ever been. And I'm not saying he was like a clown, but it was...
eraserhead: Okay, like, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like you want to maintain the,
AstroDev: Yeah,
GREASEDAPOLES: the dark.
eraserhead: But he was basically like, yo, you wanna fuck? And she was like, yeah.
AstroDev: yeah but then he's like walk...
eraserhead: And then they banged.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's fine.
AstroDev: Yeah, but he's like doing the walk of shame, like with his... in his full costume without his boots.
eraserhead: So what, man?
AstroDev: No, I'm just saying, like, because Daredevil Daredevil in the comic, i'll do I love it, too.
eraserhead: I was full on shit in them, I wanted them to get married.
AstroDev: But like Daredevil in the comic is either fucking grimdark or he's like a goofball, you know?
eraserhead: Or he's Mark Wade, Daredevil.
AstroDev: Yeah, he's like Mark Waidare devil, right? And it's and I'm not like because Daredevil in the beginning was like a goofy dude, you know, not like comedic, but like kind of like Spider -Man ask, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: Okay. Check it out.
AstroDev: Because probably everything
GREASEDAPOLES: i go I'm going to spit on this guy.
AstroDev: kind of everybody was spider -man ask I guess back in the day, but You know and then or you get fucking grimdark Bendis and prove maker Yeah, Noah God could you imagine though your mood changes that much?
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, I, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: And you know, you do that Devin, you know, how I do that in the MCU when he goes to California is having a good time. When he goes back to New York, it's dark, easy.
AstroDev: This is what the Sun is this what the Sun does to me?
GREASEDAPOLES: California's Yeah, that's, I mean, to a lot of people, a lot of people say that.
AstroDev: It makes me happy Guys, don't let them go to Florida and start voting for Trump.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh man, that's a whole Nifford show.
AstroDev: oh Oh, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's like, that's like cheers when he goes to Florida.
AstroDev: Wait, is that where choose things, please?
GREASEDAPOLES: No, Boston.
AstroDev: Oh, OK. It's going to say damn.
GREASEDAPOLES: But ah yeah, I'm excited i'm excited outside of all the stupid comments this guy's making.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah, it's like. when When's it come out? Do we know? got the
Steve-O: I think it has a date on it already, right?
AstroDev: dar devil Daredevil born again, let's see Well, I got like I got like Martin no March 4th Yeah, I got like triggered because the the literally the the article that I clicked it was like Oh, they're gonna remove they're not gonna touch him a controversial storyline and I was like, oh So they're just not doing born again.
GREASEDAPOLES: February?
eraserhead: Yeah, it's next month. It's next month. How is it March 4? It's practically next month.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's the Devil's Month.
AstroDev: And then it was like just them talking about him smashing She -Hulk and I was like
GREASEDAPOLES: See, that's not controversial to me.
AstroDev: OK, it's fair.
GREASEDAPOLES: This is fun.
AstroDev: Yeah, to to me, I'm like, why wouldn't you?
GREASEDAPOLES: But I get it. I get why they're doing it. I get the tone. i mean i I'm all about it. I'm on board. Let's see if they sell it.
AstroDev: I just hate that sometimes, sometimes I'm like, oh, those guys won. The guys that freaked the fuck out because she helped. Like, you know, what? Why are they giving her all those attention? She's bullshit, shoving it down my face like those guys won.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, those are the majority of the people that watch Marvel movies.
AstroDev: oh da
GREASEDAPOLES: You gotta understand, Devin.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: ah
GREASEDAPOLES: I don't know what to tell you, buddy.
AstroDev: ah
GREASEDAPOLES: That's the unfortunate fact.
AstroDev: Damn hoist it by my own baton Yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: um I watched some movies. Can I talk about some movies I watched over over the week?
AstroDev: yeah go for it
GREASEDAPOLES: I watched, I'm finishing up all the films that have been nominated for Academy Awards. um And this week I watched The Brutalist and I watched Conclave.
GREASEDAPOLES: um The Brutalist. i I watched a really shitty version of it, admittedly. I think it might be, even watching it through a shitty cam, I think it might be the best looking movie of the year.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like it is, yeah.
Steve-O: Yeah?
eraserhead: Over Nosferatu?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. um And it is, uh,
eraserhead: Oh, man.
GREASEDAPOLES: It shot on VistaVision, which is a side -loaded film camera shot and it's the the film was moving horizontally across the frame. um It's the same camera that was used by Cecil B. DeMille for the Ten Commandments.
eraserhead: That's insane.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's a huge, giant camera. Basically, it shoots the way they're saying it's ah there's a more focused image and it's
eraserhead: oh Yeah, it's like horizontal or it's ah they they've changed the orientation to get more of the frame right or something
GREASEDAPOLES: get more frame into the picture. So it's a bigger frame. It's also the coloring is much better. It's much sharper. um And it's particularly striking in this movie in black and white in some scenes that have no color.
GREASEDAPOLES: It kind of makes the white and blacks have like texture. Like you can kind of reach out and and touch them.
eraserhead: They used the, they used Vision 3, or ah the, yeah, the Vision 3 Tungsten film that Call Me By Your Name used, I think.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yes, yes, it is.
eraserhead: That's all too. That film is so, oh my god, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: There is a scene where they they go, the the plot of the film, it's actually not a biopic, it's it's totally original a character or created.
eraserhead: It's so good.
GREASEDAPOLES: The concepts, the ideas, and some of the ah the history of that form of architecture is there, but the character himself who is named, oh god, I was completely blank on the name.
GREASEDAPOLES: Problem of watching all these movies in a row. Laszlo, Laszlo, he's completely fictionalized character and he is a ah ah Polish immigrant, a Polish, a Jew who's escaping Germany.
eraserhead: Yeah, 500T. Wow, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: ah he he He was a survivor of the Dachau camp. um The opening scene is him on a ah boat to America and he's clawing his way through the boat to go see the Statue of Liberty.
GREASEDAPOLES: And he falls and he falls on onto the deck and the camera flips with him and you see the Statue of Liberty upside down. And it's this is all one take of him moving through the boat.
GREASEDAPOLES: And it's on film, on fucking film.
eraserhead: on film and on film.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like it's just... um
eraserhead: That's awesome.
GREASEDAPOLES: Technically just a masterpiece it really is and I should see this in theaters. I really should it's You know, I'd be damned even what it's about. Yeah help the whole idea of an immigrant coming to America being seduced by a but for money to build a a giant a community center by an eccentric millionaire who, as his he fits, acts like you know most millionaires do. And the eventual domination of Laszlo by him, and how the American dream just is is fake, and how he went from being almost killed in Germany to being fucked
GREASEDAPOLES: in America by rich people. Like that is the natural progression of the story. But in all that trying to build this giant community center in Doylestown, Pennsylvania.
eraserhead: course gaybirds they said that
GREASEDAPOLES: And it is, um ah he's basically, he's trying to build like a giant concrete castle.
Steve-O: Go beach!
AstroDev: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: And the reason why they go to Italy is to get marble from a marble quarry. for this giant tower that rises up from the the center of this building. And when the sun hits it, it reflects light into the center of the building, like beautifully. And yeah, that scene where they go to Italy, Murano, Italy to get the marble, it's just gorgeous. absolutely beautiful, texturally beautiful. um Yeah, that' that's a hell of a movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: And I think I, I'm i'm gonna, I'm kind of thinking I'm gonna reserve my review until I see it in the way it's supposed to be seen. Because it's, I don't think I got.
AstroDev: On my iPhone
GREASEDAPOLES: No, no. Yeah, I just, this movie, and not that seeing it on cam just demanded its attention to go see it in theaters, you know.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's three and a half hours.
AstroDev: Yeah, man I'll be on that that gives me pause man, I'll be honest
GREASEDAPOLES: It's got a 15 minute intermission. But I don't know, like I'm seeing enough of it. I think the scene that really hooked me in this movie is he builds a library for this millionaire as a surprise. His son basically hires Laszlo and his cousin in America to build this library. And once he builds it in the library itself, it's just like this beautiful minimalist library with basically shutters that all move at the same time to open up the entire extent of the library and one singular chair in the center which is being lit by a top sun roof where the the sunlight's coming down perfectly and it's I just wow it's a feast for the eyes um
AstroDev: Is Adrian bro Brody good in it? Like I just keep hearing about how good it looks, but like, I don't know. Like I don't, I have no idea what the plot is really.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'll be, I'll be honest with you, Devin.
AstroDev: And.
GREASEDAPOLES: I, I think Adrian Brody is really, he's playing the same type of character. He's played in like the pianist and in a few other films, sad pitiful person.
AstroDev: Okay. So sad immigrant. Yeah. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: and Um, and I'm, I, it, no,
eraserhead: But does he play Chopin to an SS soldier?
GREASEDAPOLES: well kinda, it yells not that same exact thing, but like something like that.
eraserhead: To tears? Oh, he does? OK, so then he does.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
eraserhead: And ah in a dilapidated house on a dilapidated piano.
GREASEDAPOLES: Sorta.
GREASEDAPOLES: You see his beauty at some point, like what he's his genius.
eraserhead: Actually, I do love love that scene from the pianist.
GREASEDAPOLES: I will say I think Guy Pearce is is probably I think he's better in the movie than Adrian Brody as as the millionaire, the eccentric millionaire.
eraserhead: ah
GREASEDAPOLES: I think he he's channeling something like maybe a little bit of like Howard Hughes and kind of like Patton. General Patton.
eraserhead: interesting that's interesting
GREASEDAPOLES: I would throw him in there like real blunt and shit. um Yeah. I think he was great. I think there are also some questionable plot choices in this movie. I think there are some things that happen that I.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think they, they, they, it's like they push the message onto you too much with it. Like it's, it, you were doing it, the movie was doing what it had to do so subtly. And then it just does this very unsubtle thing to really push home the message. And I'm like, I think it was a bit too much. I think it was a bit too much.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think even Guy Pearce comments about it, like, this a particular scene where he's like, you sure about this? You know, like that kind of thing to the director.
AstroDev: no
GREASEDAPOLES: And he's like, oh yeah, yeah, no, we're totally on board. We're doing it. And it was apparently really early in production that the scene occurred. And I was like, well, that's bold.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's fucking bold. That scene, like the first week, um Anyway, yeah, I'm gonna reserve my review.
GREASEDAPOLES: I wanna see it at least in a better version than the cam that I saw, because it looked like shit.
AstroDev: Ha ha ha.
eraserhead: Right.
GREASEDAPOLES: But I also watched Conclave, and um that was a wonderful movie. Really, really good.
GREASEDAPOLES: ah Very much like, ah like ah it's a mystery, you know? You're you're constantly following Cardinal Lawrence, who's the Dean, I believe of the Cardinals.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think that's his title. Um, but yeah, Devin explained some of the plot when he picked it for his movie of the year.
AstroDev: yeah yeah my my personal movie of the year twenty twenty four cola
GREASEDAPOLES: Um, yeah, basically choosing a Pope and, um, they are sequestered inside of all these Cardinals are sequestered inside. of, um, the Vatican to choose who's going to be the next Pope. And it's just a fucking hitter's row of actors who, um, Stanley Tucci, Jonathan left gal, um, Ray finds, uh, who else am I forgetting? Oh, Isabelle Rossellini. Uh, it's just so many good actors, so many great performances from actors that I don't know.
eraserhead: Isabel Rosalini's in Conclave. Oh, my God.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. Yeah, and she she plays none, obviously. um But her her character's wonderful.
eraserhead: I watched the movie with her in it this week.
GREASEDAPOLES: it's it's It's a movie where you think but what the only twist that matters is the mystery, and you're you're sold on it, and once that's fulfilled, you're like, oh, okay, that's all done.
eraserhead: Oh, wait, Devin, you didn't tell me Stanley Tucci was in this movie.
AstroDev: I
eraserhead: What the fuck?
AstroDev: I may have, actually.
eraserhead: Well, now I gotta watch it.
GREASEDAPOLES: There is a,
eraserhead: Now I gotta watch it, because he's in it.
GREASEDAPOLES: a very good twist in this film that you do not see coming.
AstroDev: Yeah. yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: That's all I'm going to say. And I think it does. The mystery is almost a red herring for that twist, for that twist to kind of work its way in and, um, almost to you not to see it.
GREASEDAPOLES: And yeah, it's just, it's a really great movie. Wonderfully shot, beautiful movie. Um, and both these directors, I really, I'm not familiar with either of the works.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like, I don't know much about the director of The Brutalist or or the director of this film. um Yeah, I just, I, i with that, it was really, really good movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, it just refines its weight in this too. Holy shit, man.
AstroDev: Yeah, I don't you know, I think Oscars came out right nominations, but like, I think he should win it, man.
eraserhead: Voldemort.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, I mean, there are,
eraserhead: Has he won one before?
AstroDev: I don't think so.
GREASEDAPOLES: He got nominated many times.
eraserhead: Even in the was it him or his brother that played Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson?
GREASEDAPOLES: No, he I think he won for he won for Schindler's List, I believe, didn't he?
AstroDev: ah What best Nazi?
GREASEDAPOLES: Best Supporting Actor.
AstroDev: Let's see.
eraserhead: Now Elon Musk it's best best Nazi Is it his is it was it him or his brother was it him or his brother I played Michael Jackson in that movie nobody watched Was
GREASEDAPOLES: I thought he did.
AstroDev: Well, he might have.
GREASEDAPOLES: He was really good in that.
AstroDev: Well, yeah, he's he's kind of one of those guys are like he's pretty good in everything.
GREASEDAPOLES: Wow, he's got nominations.
AstroDev: Yeah, I think it was his brother.
eraserhead: it Ray finds What's the name of that Michael Jackson movie that one of the fines brothers plays him
AstroDev: You're talking about joke joke at Joker fights.
AstroDev: Oh, it's yeah, it's like.
eraserhead: Michael Jackson. Oh yeah it was Joe Fine.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, wow, he only got, I can't believe he just got nominated for Schindler's List.
eraserhead: Oh my god this looks so bad.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's so good in that movie.
eraserhead: joe Joseph Fine says playing Michael Jackson was the wrong decision and a bad mistake. This looks horrifying.
GREASEDAPOLES: Did he get nominated for the menu refunds?
AstroDev: I don't think so. Now, do genre genre movies don't do well in the Oscars.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's a shame.
eraserhead: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: Really anywhere, frankly.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. No, you're right. Um, yeah.
AstroDev: But.
GREASEDAPOLES: Conclave. That was Mary. That was a fantastic movie.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Um, I really, yeah, go, go see it. It's, it's you, you, I, I, some people I know, my parents in particular thought this movie was just going to be a movie bashing the Catholic church, which, Hey, there's a long list of movies that do that.
eraserhead: What else is Joseph?
GREASEDAPOLES: And they've won Academy awards. That's not really what this is. I wouldn't say that that is that exactly like there is There's like hope in this movie Yeah, yes, I Guess because it it reveals a lot of the inner
eraserhead: Well, apparently, the Catholic Church really was, you know, I mean, every movie that's about the Catholic Church, they vow like they make people try to get people not to see them. But this one, they they they specifically We're telling people in the church not to see it.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: you know, inner workings of choosing a Pope. I think it's a really...
eraserhead: Right.
AstroDev: Yeah, and just seeing Cardinals act like humans is kind of interesting.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, yeah I'm glad you brought that up. I always forgot.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: There's some lovely scenes where they're like interacting with technology in the movie and they're having this big argument in a cafeteria and they're like yelling at one another and one of the Cardinals pulls out like a vape pen and hits it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like while it's silent, and you just hear it like, And then I left i lift my fucking ass off.
eraserhead: Uh -huh.
GREASEDAPOLES: This is so funny. um Yeah, it just a lot of them, it it very much makes them seem human. Like the whole movie is basically just hammering home.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like these are just human beings. They're flawed like all of us making these decisions. Some are worse than others, you know? But really it's just people, you know?
GREASEDAPOLES: um Yeah. And that's the most fascinating part of it. And I feel like that's where the Catholic church is like, no, no, we can't, we can't show them being human. you know like that That would not be good.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Um, that sucks because I actually think this is a really hopeful optimistic film. And, um, yeah, I, I, really enjoyed it. Uh, I really enjoyed both movies, but I want to see the other and in theaters properly.
GREASEDAPOLES: Um, Yeah, that's it. Oh, and I watched the second episode of severance, which I know Steve did instead.
Steve-O: Sup, roots?
AstroDev: I'm still behind Yeah, I was gonna watch it tonight, but we had a fucking podcast I also watched blue velvet.
GREASEDAPOLES: Devin's still behind. He's a little behind. Um, okay. All right. Calm down. Watch your silence. Um, still going strong.
Steve-O: Bunch of jerk -ass pot -tasters.
eraserhead: I watched Blue Velvet and Eraserhead this week.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yes.
eraserhead: So clap your hands for me.
AstroDev: Yeah It's
GREASEDAPOLES: Clap your hands, everybody.
eraserhead: Well, Devin, you don't even like Blue Velvet. So you should just don't tell people that you watched it.
AstroDev: fine, it's an okay movie It's fine
eraserhead: Just don't. You're crazy, dude.
AstroDev: Dude, I said this.
GREASEDAPOLES: I love Blue Velvet, so.
eraserhead: You know,
AstroDev: I said this like I like David Lynch. I really love some of his work, but I think I just got to call it like I like some of David Lynch.
eraserhead: yeah you should probably watch Eraserhead. You should probably watch Eraserhead tonight.
AstroDev: I probably will. I honestly I probably tonight.
eraserhead: Tonight.
AstroDev: No, but it's just like I David Lynch is more misses than hits for me personally.
eraserhead: You should do a bunch of drugs and watch Eraserhead.
AstroDev: ah Blue Velvet was good, just not. All that. and i It's like when the it's like when the rails are truly just like when we're off the rails fully, I really just kind of lose interest in any movie. And, you know, we hit that point near the end. And I was just like, this is kind of fucking dumb, like I don't.
AstroDev: vibe with a lot of the characters.
eraserhead: What was the part where they went off the rails completely? I think it pretty much started off started off the rails.
AstroDev: ah When. No, no, because there's like and I'm not even saying the plot's nonsensical like.
eraserhead: Dude, he finds a fucking ear in his yard. like that's That's off the rails.
AstroDev: Yeah, du no, no, John, John, you need to grow up if that's off the rails for you, you need to grow the fuck up.
eraserhead: That's the beginning of the movie. like that's
AstroDev: That's a that's a mystery.
eraserhead: ah
Steve-O: Kevin finds an ear every day.
AstroDev: That dude, that's the mystery I'm talking about.
GREASEDAPOLES: and that's but phil that be a baby
AstroDev: Yeah, dude, are you fucking kidding me?
Steve-O: Goldbirds!
AstroDev: You need to get some thicker skin, my guy. Like, like when when...
eraserhead: What's off the rails in that movie like I think that like see having the the beginning of the movie be that like I you don't you know you kind of It doesn't it kind of set your expectations You see a bunch of fucking beetles in ah under the ground fucking
GREASEDAPOLES: well Well technically technically that's not technically that's not the beginning in the beginning in the movie is
AstroDev: Is when the dad, like, has a fucking...
GREASEDAPOLES: He has a heart attack. But what do you see in the beginning of that movie? You see this beautiful. Well, before even before you see that, you see this serene suburb, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: Everybody's happy and shit. And then this guy has a fucking heart attack. And then it closes up to these disgusting beetles that are just moving around is the microcosm of the movie.
eraserhead: listen man that's disgusting insects yeah and that's not and that's what I'm well that well that's what I'm trying to say it's like you you kind of expect shit to happen at at that point like because they they he foreshadows basically the entire movie in the in the opening five minutes of it
AstroDev: Yeah, a little gross bugs.
Steve-O: Well,
GREASEDAPOLES: That's the whole movie right there.
AstroDev: Well.
Steve-O: first theme.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah, no, listen, it's.
AstroDev: Dude, it's basically when like Laura Dern's character just becomes like a fucking goofball ah and like Dorothy is Dorothy ah like
GREASEDAPOLES: Yes.
eraserhead: See, you know, you watch the movie, you know, I don't even.
AstroDev: i Did to know but one of the Dorothy's like shit basically I'll tell you exactly where it lost me when Dorothy shows up No, and Dorothy shows up naked in front of ah Yeah, that's what I thought it lost me at the end I was like it just went too far.
eraserhead: When they have the Silent Hill scene.
eraserhead: That's the end of the movie, and it's. No, but like, how do you not? How's that?
AstroDev: It just went too fucking far and I'm like I'm not saying it's out of you know why because because I
eraserhead: How is that like?
GREASEDAPOLES: that's that's That's his life.
eraserhead: No, but how is that out of?
GREASEDAPOLES: that's That's his two worlds colliding, man.
eraserhead: No, but it's yeah, how is it a how is that out of how is that out of pocket?
GREASEDAPOLES: That's the dark world and the light world.
eraserhead: How is that out of pocket?
AstroDev: because Laura Dern becomes a fucking idiot. And then he then then it becomes this goofy fucking chase scene where he goes into a house and like this character, Ben, that you thought was kind of interesting is just randomly dead.
eraserhead: Hold on. Hold on a second. Time out.
AstroDev: ah This detective who never really becomes a thing is just standing there kind of dead.
eraserhead: Oh, my God.
eraserhead: You're just describing Twin Peaks, but like in a movie.
AstroDev: Now, dude, listen, I'm there's a lot of David Lynch's, you know, work that like this doesn't fucking work with me.
eraserhead: I don't I don't understand how that how that's off the rails, like when the entire movie was leading up to that.
AstroDev: because it's just near the end. I was like, what the, it's not, it's not leading up to that, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think it is, but...
eraserhead: Yes, it is.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think it is.
eraserhead: Are you sure?
AstroDev: No, no, not at all, dude, not all.
eraserhead: Did. Did the first the first third of the the the first third of the movie, you see Isabel Rossellini strip naked.
GREASEDAPOLES: Got an old boy in the movie.
AstroDev: Frank Booth is a psychopath at 12 and he never stops.
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah
eraserhead: Yeah, but that that no, but that's the thing.
AstroDev: So by the time that I did, dude,
eraserhead: That's what I was. That's what I was getting to, though, is like that that happens at the beginning of the movie. You see Frank fucking say, I want it mommy, I want to fuck.
GREASEDAPOLES: Mommy!
AstroDev: no
eraserhead: Like 20 minutes into the movie after inhaling a bunch of ni nitrous oxide Like that's literally in the first third of the movie though.
AstroDev: Yeah. And.
AstroDev: Yeah, because listen. Listen, dude, I'll tell you right now, I'm not against weird shit.
eraserhead: Like you can't you can't You can't tell me you can't tell me that like seeing a naked woman at the end of the movie is like blowing it up and like Exploding off the rails like that's kind of that's kind of that's kind of on a but out of pocket say that They were nonsensical the whole movie dude, they were that's what it was like whole movie
AstroDev: No. No, because it's it's it's all the characters are like become nonsensical to me. Right. It's like Frank with. Dude, I can't like if you're not going to let me explain it like if there's no point. I'm just saying like,
AstroDev: there's
eraserhead: Go ahead, explain it.
AstroDev: There's there's a lot of points in these David Lynch movies where I just go like, yeah, you know what?
eraserhead: Explain it, then.
AstroDev: Like I'm I tapped out. Right. It's not. It's pretty interesting. I'm on board. And then we just hit a point where I just kind of I'm like, it's too fucking it's too much.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well.
eraserhead: but No, let him explain, Chris, or else we won't get it. So let him explain himself more.
AstroDev: No, I'm not. I'm not trying to get you to get it. I'm explaining my point in terms of like what I don't like about. it
GREASEDAPOLES: I will say.
AstroDev: Again, when Isabella shows up naked and then you're like, Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. Chris, like the world's collide. And then it's just like, Laura Dern gets over it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, that's the. David Lynch does have a tendency to pull the rug out for money, but that's kind of, that's your that's the ticket.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: yeah But like I feel like that this movie is pretty fucking Oh my god I don't think I think it's I think what you're saying is baseless I think it's baseless.
GREASEDAPOLES: You pay the ticket for the ride.
AstroDev: He gets over. He goes into a house. He goes into a fucking apartment where like all these people are dead, kind of. And then Frank Booth is just being crazy like he was crazy the entire movie.
AstroDev: And it's like there's just at that point, you can't go further. So he just goes sideways to me. Right. You can't escalate anymore because we hit fucking peak escalation middle of the movie.
AstroDev: And then when he and then when he and then he can't go any higher and then he goes fucking sideways.
eraserhead: I think you were on your phone and You were doom scrolling on your phone during important parts of the movie and you you missed some of it.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm just scrolling.
eraserhead: I think that's what it was.
AstroDev: Yeah, you caught me.
eraserhead: To be honest.
AstroDev: You caught me. ah Yeah. And then, ah you know, Sandy's like, actually, sorry, I overreacted. Sorry, Jeffrey. My bad. I do love you. And it just ends on a very I don't know.
AstroDev: It just it ends on a.
GREASEDAPOLES: Jeffrey's changed though at the end.
AstroDev: ah He was he was a fucking here's the thing.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's never going to be the same.
AstroDev: Jeffrey was never normal, though.
GREASEDAPOLES: No, Jeffrey was normal.
AstroDev: He's a weird dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: No, no, no, no, no.
AstroDev: He's a weirdo from the start.
GREASEDAPOLES: Jeffrey Jeffrey was normal, but he dipped his toe into the weird shit from time to time and he he went full bore this time and he's totally different now.
eraserhead: my god Yeah, and he got he got yeah you got to yeah he he got a taste of it.
AstroDev: Dude, dude, I'm going to be Stephen King.
eraserhead: You got a taste of the He got a taste of the underground and he and he wanted a little bit more each time he overreached
AstroDev: Dude, I'm going to be Stephen King watching The Shining, right? I was like, it was why I don't like it. He's he's crazy from the start, right? He's you could tell right away he's a nut job.
GREASEDAPOLES: I don't think so. That's not true.
AstroDev: I don't know, dude, like and again, it's it's not that I thought it was stupid. It's not that I wasn't interested. it It's not that I thought there weren't good bits. Like I do like weird.
AstroDev: It was just like when there's nowhere to escalate and it just goes fucking sideways, it's not, it's it loses me.
eraserhead: I don't know, man. You can't say you like weird and then and then complain and they complain about a naked lady at one scene at the end and say that that's that's where the movie blew up and lost you.
AstroDev: No, John, it's not it's not that she was naked, right?
eraserhead: So stupid.
AstroDev: It's not that she was naked.
eraserhead: It doesn't even make any sense.
AstroDev: It's the fact that she shows up and then everything just kind of like confetti basically fucking explodes and like just everything stops making sense.
eraserhead: Yeah, that's what that's what a climax that's what the the story is the climax of a movie is.
AstroDev: It's not that I was like, I'm not, I'm not clutching pearls because I see fucking boobs, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: This is what I think. This is my perspective on that.
eraserhead: Ah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I just want to give it to you. This is why, how I viewed that whole end sequence. When I first saw it, I saw that, you know, we talked about the world's colliding thing. Everything goes crazy when that happens because there is no normal anymore.
eraserhead: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Normal is gone. Like at that point, he has gone too far into the darkness. He's looked too deep into the void. and it's come and it's completely spread over everything. And at the very end of the movie, she's just once normal again, his his girlfriend. That's all she wants. She doesn't want that. She's scared out of her mind, but he's gone. He's done. Like that's, he's he's not reachable by her at the end of that movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: And that's why I liked it because he, he kept talking about how living a normal life is boring. When in reality, that normal life had this seedy, disgusting, weird underworld that just turns everything to shit under his feet, under his feet.
AstroDev: The end is a fucking fever like and I'm saying like the and no, no, but I'm saying that No, no dude no, I'm telling you the end end the end end where the dad's fine.
GREASEDAPOLES: It is, it is.
eraserhead: but you That's the whole point that's what it is. Oh my god Yeah, and they see the fucking Robin they see the Robin fucking with a fucking bugger in his mouth Everything is quote unquote normal except for the robotic fucking Robin in the windowsill with a fucking cockroach in its mouth Yeah, that's real normal
AstroDev: He's fucking you know, he's sitting on a fucking he's laying on a ah Yeah Yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: Everything is normal, parentheses.
AstroDev: I mean, like, listen, it's it's kind of like it's kind of like my issue with Mahalan Drive.
eraserhead: have
AstroDev: Like there's there's just points of that movie where I just it just I'm like, OK, just get out of your system and then we can get back to the movie.
eraserhead: my god
AstroDev: Mahalan Drive kind of loses me a few times in the middle. And then I think ties it up at the end and I enjoyed it.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think that's weirder than blue velvet.
AstroDev: I agree. Mahalan Drive is more weird than Blue Velvet.
GREASEDAPOLES: I mean, so so is Lost Highway.
eraserhead: Yeah, and that's what that's what I that's what I wanted.
AstroDev: It's not again.
GREASEDAPOLES: So is...
AstroDev: It's not that I'm like, it's so weird.
eraserhead: That's what I wanted to say.
AstroDev: I don't like it.
eraserhead: No, but that's that's what I was trying to say, though, is like Blue Velvet is actually pretty fucking tame compared. I mean, I've only seen a a few David Lynch movies, but like this is pretty much the tamest, easiest to follow, like most grounded one out of all of them that I've seen.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
Steve-O: I mean, that's, I mean, Twin Peaks is probably the most, like, servable one to an audience.
GREASEDAPOLES: Accessible.
eraserhead: Right. yeah No, but like, but my my whole thing about my whole thing about Blue Velvet is that
GREASEDAPOLES: Actually, I think, I think I think elephant man is, I think elephant man is.
eraserhead: my My whole thing about Blue Velvet is that is that it it very much feels like a precursor to what Twin Peaks was on terms of like the style and the the dialogue.
Steve-O: Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, Elephant Man. Yeah, you're right.
Steve-O: Hmm?
AstroDev: Oh, for sure, yeah.
Steve-O: The themes, yeah.
eraserhead: yeah like it
GREASEDAPOLES: i think I think what makes Twin Peaks accessible is it sort of regurgitates a lot of like soap opera shit that is on TV that we're all kind of accustomed to, but it adds this like weird, it's just the the weirdness is on the layer on the outside.
eraserhead: and then And then Bob shows up.
Steve-O: yeah Yeah, it's like, those are the things that keep you like coming back. is is It's those lynching pins.
AstroDev: yeah Yeah, exactly. Because when you see a bit, you're like, what's up with the log lady?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
AstroDev: What's up with this fucking scary guy who drives a semi truck?
GREASEDAPOLES: It's all marginalized, sort of, you know?
AstroDev: Yeah, you get bits of it and it's it's fed to you a little bit over time.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: Like I cannot stand firewalk with like I hate that. I love to in peace. I cannot fucking stay in that movie.
eraserhead: I don't see how you like Twin Peaks, but you didn't like Blue Velvet like that's kind of it's weird for me.
AstroDev: And.
AstroDev: I didn't I will you say I didn't lie I didn't hate it.
eraserhead: I think you walked in because you you told me that you told me that your fiance didn't like it beforehand and then and then you went to watch it by yourself.
AstroDev: It was fine. Like it's.
eraserhead: So I think you already you went in there already not liking it.
AstroDev: No, no, because she sat down and watched it with me and I basically I think she just lied to me because she was like, what?
eraserhead: I think that's what it was.
AstroDev: And I was like, I thought you said you said you saw this. And she's like, I don't remember any of this. And I was like, OK, OK, then. Like, let's.
Steve-O: Maybe she would meant Blue Valentine.
GREASEDAPOLES: Ooh.
eraserhead: That movie is that movie's fucking fucked.
AstroDev: Maybe, maybe.
GREASEDAPOLES: That hits in a different spot.
Steve-O: You got a chubbed up Ryan Gosselin.
AstroDev: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah, but I don't know, man. It's just there there's always a.
eraserhead: I can't believe you got triggered by a naked lady.
AstroDev: I didn't.
eraserhead: though and That's kinda crazy.
AstroDev: Oh, Jesus Christ.
eraserhead: It's so crazy to me.
AstroDev: All right.
eraserhead: You see one naked lady, you're like, oh my god, this movie went off the rails.
AstroDev: We're not.
eraserhead: It's not for me.
AstroDev: John, didn't you? Didn't you have a meltdown when you saw a pot at play and a fucking in a shelf or something?
eraserhead: It's wild.
AstroDev: We were watching Eraserhead.
eraserhead: What, a razor? You watch it, you tell me.
AstroDev: It's so weird. I can't handle it.
eraserhead: if no the No, the weird...
Steve-O: That was me and Chris when we saw a race red, too, though.
AstroDev: But.
eraserhead: No, the weird the weird thing is that the plant's not in a pot.
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah bar
AstroDev: Like, Jon thinks the movies, Jon thinks Blue Velvet's insane because he finds a fucking ear in him in a fucking mystery movie.
eraserhead: No, um no, I'm not saying i'm saying that that sets that that's that's the tone.
AstroDev: That's insane to me!
eraserhead: Can you let me explain, please? Can you stop talking so I can explain it?
AstroDev: Just saying, man.
eraserhead: the tree what's weird about the tree is that it's not in a pot it's just on a pile of dirt on his night table that's what's weird about it Devin he's got clumps of of leaves and dirt all over his apartment none of it's really explained it's like no but
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah Yeah, that's...
AstroDev: Okay.
AstroDev: SPOILERS! Fuckin' David Leech is weird. Fuckin '... News at 11.
eraserhead: Well, yeah, I mean, yeah it sounds like you were already fucking prepared for Blue Velvet and the ah you see a naked lady you fucking flip out and you freak out and you're like, this is off the rails.
AstroDev: if
eraserhead: It's not but nothing makes sense anymore.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm kind of glad it made you feel that way, though, because that is kind of the point.
eraserhead: Oh, my God.
GREASEDAPOLES: You're like, what the fuck is going on? Like, that's the point you're supposed to say at the end of Bluebell, because it's like everything's going to shit.
AstroDev: I'm going to write Roger Deibert a letter and say, I agree with you.
Steve-O: Hmm.
AstroDev: He's a sick man.
eraserhead: Oh, man, he hated it, dude. he Did you watch that review of him in Cisco?
AstroDev: I wanted to, I didn't get a chance though, but.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, well, fucking Roger Ebert hated the thing, too, and he's an idiot, so.
eraserhead: Yeah, it's so funny, dude.
Steve-O: Yeah.
eraserhead: It's so funny.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: And Cisco was like, I loved it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well. yeah
eraserhead: I like that it was fucking weird and depraved. Fuck you.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: They actually were arguing, like we were arguing right now. they That's how Cisco and Iver were arguing about it.
AstroDev: Good.
AstroDev: Yeah, I just, you know, I wish I loved, I really wish I loved everything he did.
GREASEDAPOLES: Roger Deibert was a Pearl Clutcher, man. He's a Pearl Clutcher.
AstroDev: I just don't though, sadly.
GREASEDAPOLES: I mean, listen, I'm not gonna say I love everything he's done. um I don't, but I respect the way it makes me feel, which is I think is the most important thing, right?
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like he has this tendency to make the normal most normal things feel creepy. And nobody else can do that. And a lot of people try to copy it.
GREASEDAPOLES: A lot of people try to copy it.
Steve-O: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's like almost every piece of strange ah yeah found footage shit that's on like YouTube with cane pixels.
eraserhead: Oh, but even like.
GREASEDAPOLES: They're all trying to capture that negative space creepy feeling that David Lynch was just a master at is nobody I could think of this better.
eraserhead: um
eraserhead: Because the fucking the fucking Royal Orbison Orbison scene, like when we even have like Tarantino or like the Coen brothers, if like that scene was never made the fucking.
GREASEDAPOLES: You wouldn't have Alan, Alan wake. We wouldn't have control.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: Oh God, yeah, no.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like none of, none of there's so little skirt.
eraserhead: Yeah, devin how do you have Alan Wake? Well, you didn't like Blue Valley. That's so crazy to me. That's so weird.
AstroDev: I don't think that's weird at all, dude. I really that'd be like if you said Twin Peaks, I'd be like, yeah, that doesn't track, but.
GREASEDAPOLES: Shit. Silent Hill to.
AstroDev: I haven't played it.
eraserhead: They literally have Silent Hill 2 in the movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: Silent Hill. All those bo those games that's lynchy and shit like a he's done shit like that. Like it's, you gotta to respect the game at least, you know, that's all I guess we're, we agree on that much.
AstroDev: Oh, I respect it for sure. I just, you know.
eraserhead: You know, just don't put naked women in my movies, you know, and I'm OK.
Steve-O: I think the thing is though, like Devin at least recognizes that like it's not his like it's not his like flavor for every season.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's not. Yeah.
Steve-O: like There are definitely flavors he likes, but it's just like his not his go -to.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. I mean, I think Tarantino is not a big fan of David Lynch. I think he's talked about that.
eraserhead: Even though he's he's clearly fucking inspired by some of this stuff.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think he can really talk, Kenny.
Steve-O: Mm.
GREASEDAPOLES: Sometimes that guy.
eraserhead: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Um, yeah, no, I mean, he, you know, he says, what's this, what's the point of weird for the sake of weird, you know, but I, I disagree. Cause you can say the same thing about his violence was, was deal with violence for the sake of violence.
AstroDev: Because it's so fun, Jam.
eraserhead: Yeah.
Steve-O: yeah
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I know, but come on. So it was weird. Weird's fun too.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like I, I, it, to say that in the same breath, you do the same thing. You exploit just as much as David Lynch does, but you do it with violence. He does it with weirdness.
AstroDev: Is uh, was David Bowie and Mahalan driver was that fire walk with me Yeah, like that Not to pick on that movie again, but like yeah pointless fucking pointless, dude.
Steve-O: Firewalk with me.
GREASEDAPOLES: fire walk with me.
eraserhead: He really ate that movie.
AstroDev: I will never oh Yeah, no John. There's a scene where they're in like a nightclub and they're talking and it's just like their subtitles because it's
eraserhead: Because you can't hear him.
AstroDev: Yeah, you can't hear it. And it's really badly done. And then he's like, oh yeah, I did that on purpose. And I just like threw my headphones. I was like, why? Why?
AstroDev: You weird man. Stop it. You know, watch it.
eraserhead: Well, why not, though? like why like Why is that bad? like if he's trying to if he's trying If he's trying to capture the aesthetic of the nightclub and the the you know the the atmosphere, then like let him cook.
GREASEDAPOLES: He drags with his gut, man.
AstroDev: It's. Well, I watched it and I was like, I did. I really it like in fury.
eraserhead: And you know you know what? that in that hearing you Hearing you say that about that movie and then telling me a couple weeks ago that you watch ah Squid Game,
AstroDev: i
eraserhead: and Fucking dubs instead of subs makes me it really tells me a lot about what how you feel how you really feel about that kind of stuff them Why how You literally said you didn't like reading subtitles in fucking nightclub scene and and two weeks ago you told me I
AstroDev: I. I don't I don't. John, is your back OK? Because I think you broke it ah trying to make that point.
AstroDev: Where were you? where Where's the logic there? Find it.
AstroDev: John, I literally, John, I literally have fucking subtitles on mostly everything I watch.
eraserhead: Yeah, but you but what i'm saying what I'm saying is two weeks ago, you told me that you fucking watched Squid Game with fucking dubbed vocals.
AstroDev: I'm like a subtitle guy.
AstroDev: No, it's because I started season one with the dub because that was like the default and I just kind of never
eraserhead: and that's So how's that a reach? if that If you tell me that two weeks ago and then you're complaining about subtitles now, how's that a reach?
AstroDev: Because, John, you know you don't know what I'm talking about with this particular scene in this movie. Like, it's not because, John, the complaint was, yeah, that's my point.
eraserhead: you talked about You said something about subtitles.
AstroDev: The complaint's not that there were subtitles. It's a weird fucking decision you made.
eraserhead: you're break You're breaking your back right now. You're breaking your back right now because I didn't even watch that movie.
AstroDev: Okay. John, watch the movie.
eraserhead: So you're actually breaking your back right now.
AstroDev: Just watch the movie, please, and tell me you loved it.
eraserhead: Try to tell me that I broke my back comparing two different.
AstroDev: Tell me you loved it, John. Watch it.
Steve-O: In heaven, everything is fine. In heaven.
GREASEDAPOLES: is it about
eraserhead: I mean, if you're I mean, it's fine. Like if you're it's OK, like if you're upset that you you're the only one that didn't like Blue Velvet, that's fine. It's OK.
GREASEDAPOLES: Steve fucking hates it That's the only yeah, that's the only one you can eat trash talk Well, you're you're a wild at heart fan right you're a big fan
AstroDev: Yeah, me and Quentin Parentino will be fine.
eraserhead: I'm.
Steve-O: i don't have I don't have great words about Inland Empire.
AstroDev: yeah How dare you? That's the best one.
Steve-O: ah I love the shorts though, the shorts that released online alongside of it.
Steve-O: I love Wild at Heart. Wild at Heart is, I think that one, Devin, you spin that one, you tell us what you think on that one. Because I think that one that one might serve you another one across the plate.
AstroDev: I heard, I hear good things. No, like honestly, um
Steve-O: Nicholas nicholas Cage is, ah oh, he's unhinged in that.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's unhinged in that one.
AstroDev: Honestly, there's there's three movies left of David Lynch that I really want to get You know in my system. It's wild at heart elephant man and um Fuck eraser head eraser head Yeah, never Yeah,
GREASEDAPOLES: You're gonna cry. You're gonna cry watching off, man. i'll Yeah, After he saw a racer head, he knew.
Steve-O: You got a cry door in a Mel Brooks movie? What? Strange facts produced by Mel Brooks.
AstroDev: yeah and then uh Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Game respects game.
AstroDev: And then you can watch, you can watch Twin Peaks, The Return. Did any of you guys watch that?
Steve-O: no
GREASEDAPOLES: I did.
AstroDev: Or did you all fall off? Like I gave it like three episodes.
GREASEDAPOLES: No, I finished it is just, I didn't understand the single up episode.
AstroDev: Yeah. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: So yeah, no, that one I listen, but he's self -indulgent.
AstroDev: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's a big thing of his, but that's the thing. His perspective is so strange that everyone's like, yeah, go ahead and do your thing. That's fucking evil.
AstroDev: yeah Do you think?
Steve-O: People want to see that, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Want that, you know?
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: It's a selling point.
GREASEDAPOLES: So I, yeah, that one was who weird. Um, maybe a bit too weird for me, but I really respect the way he makes me feel when I watched it, which was just like, huh?
GREASEDAPOLES: Like that.
AstroDev: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: I like that. I, man. Cause it, I like to be, he challenges me really a lot. Like when I watch, it's just like the most, one of the more challenging directors I think that is out there, you know?
Steve-O: Yeah, 100%. I think some of the the most interesting parts too is like, you watch his movies and then you, you it's it's just as interesting to hear him talk about the movies, to talk about the craft, to talk about the things that inspired him.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, there's, there's just his perspective on things. It's just so like, what? look I mean, like it's, um, I, I was comparing him to, um, Junji Ito and about how like, how he is in public versus what he writes about.
Steve-O: Yeah.
Steve-O: a Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: And he just talks about like, Oh yeah, I used to be a dentist. You know, I didn't want to be a dentist anymore. And I wanted to do this weird shit. That's kind of the same vibe I get from David Lynch.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like he kind of wasn't optimist. You seemed like a happy dude. And uh, yeah, he just had a weird perspective on things that was cherished, cherished by people.
GREASEDAPOLES: So that's awesome. Um, is there anything else? Anything else you guys watched Steve? No.
Steve-O: I think Severance was like the big thing. I need to get into Castlevania, Nocturne. I'm still sleeping on it.
AstroDev: Yeah, I heard Harley Quinn's out too. The new season.
GREASEDAPOLES: I watched, I watched one episode. It was pretty good.
AstroDev: Okay.
GREASEDAPOLES: Pretty good. They're going in a totally different direction.
Steve-O: Interesting.
AstroDev: Okay.
Steve-O: Wait, not comedy? Like what is...
GREASEDAPOLES: No, no, no, no. Like the way the plot was going in the previous season where they were in this like, I think it was the birds of Gotham or something or the Queens of Gotham, that team breaks up immediately in the first episode. And it's just them like sitting in bed and then like not dealing with anything for like months. Because they're like weirdly depressed. That was kind of cool. Like I like that it made it more funny.
GREASEDAPOLES: because they're like out in their sweat pants and track suits and they got like stains all over them while they're fighting crime and shit. Like, that's pretty funny. um Yeah, it's good. First episode was good.
AstroDev: yeah i watched i watched some stuff i watch blue velvet obviously um i fell down an old an old old movie. Well, I don't know really why, um but I watched Presumed Innocent, which is a Harrison Ford thriller.
GREASEDAPOLES: Steve, you ever heard of that, John? I've never heard of that movie.
Steve-O: Presumed innocent.
AstroDev: Yeah, there's actually like they remade it into a show at Jake Gyllenhaal like last year, which I found kind of interesting, but it's Brian Dennehy. Ralph Julie is in this. He's great. Harrison Ford's in it.
AstroDev: Obviously, and it was just it was one of those things where I had a bunch of movies on a on a drive. And I was like, why did I download this? And I put it on and it was. I won't say it's the best movie, right? um But it was definitely caught my interest. And I was, you know, I was kind of in in it for the entirety of the movie. ah But another movie I watched just because it was kind of one of those like I've never seen this and I feel like I should and i watch Kramer versus Kramer, which pretty bummer of a movie start to finish.
AstroDev: That is that's the movie starring ah Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman. And just ah definitely worth your time.
AstroDev: I really like that movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: I remember the, what's it called?
AstroDev: Dustin Hoffman's awesome in it.
GREASEDAPOLES: The Zapti brothers. They had a interview and they were talking about a particular scene in Kramer versus Kramer. Cause they were, their mother and father divorced.
AstroDev: Okay. Oh, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: And it was like, they said they watched that scene and it was like, like watching a mirror.
AstroDev: Ooh.
GREASEDAPOLES: They said it was like perfect.
AstroDev: All right.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like I think it was Dustin Hoffman on the phone and he was trying to like cook food.
AstroDev: Yeah. Yeah. It's.
GREASEDAPOLES: first kid and he was just like the whole, this is like tension was building up because everything was fucking out.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I can't remember particularly, but they loved that scene.
AstroDev: Yeah, it's a move. Yeah, yeah, it's it's ah I don't want to say intense, but it's just it's very good. It's just funny because I think the ending of the movie hits different with modern sensibilities. um It's just kind of like. I won't spoil it, even though it came out in 1979, but ah It's just like the way the movie ends, I feel like you're supposed to feel one way about the character and you're supposed to be like, oh, what a good thing they did.
AstroDev: We're like watching it with modern sensibilities. I was kind of like, wow, that's a. What the fuck is wrong with this person? Like, stop it. Just like stop with the mind fuck. um But I don't know.
AstroDev: It was again, it was just kind of one of those movies.
GREASEDAPOLES: This is one thing I do, I like about when I remember watching it. It was been a while, but like the emotion felt real in that movie.
AstroDev: Yeah, no, I mean, again, doesn't help. It's great. Meryl Streep. Great, obviously. um It's just like. She's just sad and she's crying in every every scene, every scene. It's like she just got done crying. And I'm like, clearly, this is a choice. She's obviously very good in it, but it's like. I don't know. Like, is this all we need? Is this all we're asking, you know, of of an actress, you know, back in the late 70s?
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, then, you know, divorces, divorces don't happen when they should, right?
AstroDev: You know, just cry a bunch and you know, you'll you'll get it.
GREASEDAPOLES: And this is that what Louis CK says?
AstroDev: Yeah. Well, the. the
GREASEDAPOLES: Like a divorce doesn't happen the moment it gets bad. It's like, Oh, it's bad. Okay. Let's get a divorce. No, it's like years of terribleness.
AstroDev: Yeah. Well, that's that's kind of the thing, right, is like is like the movie starts with her saying I'm leaving.
GREASEDAPOLES: ah lead up yeah You don't get any context.
AstroDev: you So you don't get any of that. You don't get any. he Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's true.
AstroDev: And then she's yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Which is cool. I like that.
AstroDev: And then she's gone for like more than half of the movie. You really kind of just sit with Billy, the son Billy, and doesn't often scare her.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: And then she pops up and then she's like, hey, I want my kid back. And I feel like the viewer isn't should it feels to me again, maybe other people have different takes, but it feels to me like the viewer should be like, that's fucking insane.
AstroDev: Like, no, dude, bro, you left. You left your kid.
GREASEDAPOLES: Absolutely.
AstroDev: ah And I don't know. um
GREASEDAPOLES: That's kind of the point of the movie.
AstroDev: It kind of tries to play both sides though.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, that's a great thing about perspective in that film, right?
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: You're only, if you watched it from her perspective, maybe you would be thinking differently.
AstroDev: Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm I'm very curious if like, you know.
AstroDev: Right. Where she abandons her son, her son for 15 months and it says, oh, I want this kid again.
GREASEDAPOLES: You don't know. You don't know what the context of her leaving was, right?
AstroDev: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: So it's like, it could be abuse, could be all these other things, verbal abuse, right?
AstroDev: Well, you. Well, that's the thing. You you do find out it she she was depressed because she it wasn't abuse. It wasn't adultery. It wasn't.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's right.
AstroDev: you know He was just an absent husband.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think you're right. That is right.
AstroDev: asent He was a workaholic husband. That was. And I'm not saying like that's not how dare she leave because of that. But, you know, his kind of silver bullet is he's like, bro, you abandoned your son as well as, you know, you divorce me all you want, but you abandoned your son.
AstroDev: Uh, but again, it's, I mean, the fact that is we're still fucking talking about it like this is, is, I think, yeah, it's a banger of a movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: gray movie
AstroDev: Uh, and then I finally closed the book on red dead too. Again, finally closed that book. I, uh, I was a little, I was a little, um, I was RP in it a little bit.
AstroDev: Cause like after i I rolled credits, I found Mary Beth found Tilly. went to Arthur's gravestone and then I just shut it off.
GREASEDAPOLES: And then he forgot the first crow. He forgot the first crow of cock. And he saw the sun and all the blood drained out of his body as he looked at the sun.
AstroDev: Mm hmm.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: And he collapsed.
AstroDev: Yeah, I felt like it was a very it was a very nice way to just kind of put a button on that game and I was like, oh, yeah, here it is.
GREASEDAPOLES: And that's the end of the Red Dead 2.
Steve-O: Damn.
AstroDev: So I saw Pearson, I forgot he was right running a store in Rhodes.
GREASEDAPOLES: here
AstroDev: And then I accidentally that accidentally pulled my gun on him and he just ran away out of the store.
Steve-O: Person! Dude, that's messed up.
AstroDev: I was like, oh, sorry, Pearson, my bad. But yeah, I'm trying to think. I don't think. Yeah, I mean, that was it. And I'm finally fucking finally read the two's great legitimately, like objectively, I think a really great game.
AstroDev: It's a long game, though. So I'm kind of I'm kind of glad I can just kind of put it aside and start something that happened as if like I had to.
eraserhead: to the best game ever made.
AstroDev: right I could have fucking put it down at any point. So it was my fault, really. But ah yeah, now we're on the Silent Hill, too. And I can tell you how spooky it is. And I can talk about how great it is because I've never played Silent Hill.
AstroDev: So.
eraserhead: Well, I'll tell you this, if you didn't like Blue Velvet, you might not like Silent Hill 2.
AstroDev: Oh, no, dude.
eraserhead: I'll leave it there.
AstroDev: I don't know. I don't know. Silent Hill as much credit. I'm saying this. I might be really talking to my ass, but this much credit that Silent Hill gets in terms of the mind fuckery.
AstroDev: I don't really think it compares to how off the walls. David Lynch can get a David Lynch Silent Hill game.
Steve-O: I do believe that Silent Hill 2 was very much inspired was inspired by Lost Highway. I remember seeing that all the time.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. Oh yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I could feel that.
eraserhead: I will then I'll maybe I'll maybe I'll like Lost Highway then. Well, because the scene in Blue Bell is literally they literally take that from from in in Silent Hill 2.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
eraserhead: Like plagiarize that scene, the closet scene.
GREASEDAPOLES: Listen, it's, yeah. All that, that those themes of loneliness and creepiness, it's dude, he's, he nailed that every time, even in the movies and TV shows.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I don't like events like yeah.
eraserhead: Like watching watching a sexual assault happen from the closet happens in Silent Hill 2 as well.
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah
AstroDev: Yeah, when Frank Bruce brings in the giant sword, drags it all the way with him.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, he's got a big sword.
AstroDev: Yeah, he's got a big sword.
GREASEDAPOLES: Incia, the lead scene.
AstroDev: But where he he huffs, he huffs all that.
Steve-O: I mean, to be fair, that's like the oxygen tank.
AstroDev: He huffs all that oxygen tank out of his his head.
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah That's his nitrous oxide.
Steve-O: That's that's his big sword. Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: e
eraserhead: Apparently, that was supposed to be helium, allegedly.
AstroDev: Right.
GREASEDAPOLES: Helium.
AstroDev: Yeah, but his voice didn't get high.
eraserhead: And and Frank Booth, or not Frank Booth, but Dennis Hopper was like, I don't know if that's going to work, because it changes your voice. So he's like, I don't think I could do helium.
GREASEDAPOLES: Interesting.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: You remember me, Eddie?
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah
AstroDev: And that would have been my favorite movie of all time.
eraserhead: So then he um then he he brought up the idea of of nitrogen or nitrous oxide or whatever it was.
AstroDev: and
eraserhead: And David Lynch didn't even know what that was, apparently.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, sweet summer child.
eraserhead: He's like, well, look it up.
Steve-O: He's like, you talking about Nas?
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: You talking about Nas, the thing I have in my car?
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: Yeah, whatever, whatever, yeah yeah whatever attack he was inhaling there.
GREASEDAPOLES: ah a a A favorite of Steve -O from Jackass, actually.
AstroDev: Yeah, there you
GREASEDAPOLES: He loved nitrous oxide.
Steve-O: a
AstroDev: go.
Steve-O: He's clean now, though.
AstroDev: But yeah, I told Jenny, I told Jenny, it's Frank Booth and Isabelle is going to be, it's going to be our Halloween costume, couple's costume.
Steve-O: He's clean now.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's clean
AstroDev: Pass blue ribbon.
Steve-O: I rolled credits on a game that I played two years ago, stopped playing, and then I said, you know what, I'm gonna restart that game, and that game is Pokemon Legends Arceus.
AstroDev: Whoa, can I guess? Fuck.
Steve-O: No, you can't, because I just said it, sorry.
AstroDev: Never mind.
eraserhead: why you Why are you playing that game, Steve? Why?
Steve-O: Because I never beat it, and I was in a Pokemon move, and that was the thing.
eraserhead: why What?
eraserhead: You were in a Pokemon, Pokemon vibes.
Steve-O: So so Legends Arceus came out at the beginning of 2022.
AstroDev: man
AstroDev: That's the that's like the one that was like kind of pseudo Scotland, right or something.
Steve-O: No, that was Sword Shield.
eraserhead: Now, this is like open world.
AstroDev: Oh, sort of.
eraserhead: It's like open.
Steve-O: Now that was the open world game that was about like, it was like a, it was like a prequel.
eraserhead: It's like overworld.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: It was like your character kind of got thrown into like Pokemon history. And it was like, people loved it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Is it a football?
Steve-O: It got like nineties and stuff like that.
AstroDev: It just rained like shit, right?
Steve-O: But the thing is. No, I mean, it ran decently. The thing is, later that year, like literally several months, like September, October, that's when they released the new generation of Pokemon.
AstroDev: Okay.
AstroDev: Hmm.
Steve-O: So they kind of just like got swept under the rug while everybody was like, we're playing the new one. That's like the so one that matters. And I just I never got to finish it. And I got to finish it.
Steve-O: I rolled credits on it. and I was like, ah you know what? That was a good game. You know, it's definitely messy in points, but way better than the the one that came out later that year, because it talks about like kind of just like it factors in death a lot, which is real weird. It's dark it's dark for a Pokemon game because it's it takes place at a time where they're like Pokemon are monsters. These things are trying to kill us. We are terrified. ah There is a mission where you have to save a child from a drift loom because drift loom in their in their stories. ah What they do is they convince children of their balloons and then they just jettison them into the sky.
Steve-O: So it it plays on those dark like Pokemon things that are that are kind of neat.
AstroDev: You know, you know,
Steve-O: And I enjoyed it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Balloon children, you say?
Steve-O: No, no, no, the children aren't balloons. the balloon They are Pokemon that look like balloons that just steal children.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, last I was almost really offended.
AstroDev: you know I, Steve, I know why, I know why you did this, but I just think about like all those other games that you started and then didn't finish that were much better.
Steve-O: ah Yes.
Steve-O: Yeah.
Steve-O: You know, I'm going to start doing that for every game you guys play.
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah
Steve-O: If I can play Red Dead 2 seven years ago, thats so that's a movie more than a game.
AstroDev: Yeah, no, that's and that's what I'm saying. Like, like I was like, I was you were saying that and I was like, oh, my God, he finally played God of War Ragnarok.
GREASEDAPOLES: Uh,
AstroDev: And they were like, Pokemon. And I was like, I mean, I don't know.
eraserhead: Did that come out two years ago, God of War?
Steve-O: Gotta work.
AstroDev: I'm just years.
Steve-O: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah years ago.
Steve-O: It came out that same year.
AstroDev: Yeah. I was even like maybe talk about Spider -Man.
Steve-O: Came out that same year.
GREASEDAPOLES: Steve, you should play Final Fantasy seven rebirth.
AstroDev: Maybe just any.
eraserhead: um
AstroDev: Yeah, maybe maybe rebirth.
Steve-O: It just came out on PC.
AstroDev: Yeah, maybe rebirth.
GREASEDAPOLES: Play that.
Steve-O: I watched 30 minutes of a stream and it decided to say, hey, good stuff.
GREASEDAPOLES: it goes like that
eraserhead: Yeah, I thought that i thought that was the ah ah thought that was the the the speed bump for you, if if it's on so PC or not. But then you broke out the switch and played ah
Steve-O: Well, the thing is i have i have my switch hooked I have the switch hooked up to my ah computer.
eraserhead: Pokemon game that not everybody like Dude
Steve-O: i can I can do that easily.
AstroDev: Steve's taking monster dumps and he's like, I better be playing some Pokemon while I'm doing this.
Steve-O: Pokemon's easy.
eraserhead: I don't even know where mine I don't even know where my Nintendo switch is to be honest Yeah,
AstroDev: That's one.
Steve-O: Pokemon you can be thoughtless about.
AstroDev: Yeah.
AstroDev: Well, Steve, just.
Steve-O: Well, you've got a new one coming soon. Just get that.
eraserhead: but I'm gonna have to transfer all the stuff over if it's I've honest I have no idea where it is
AstroDev: Yeah, wait, you don't know where it is. Damn.
Steve-O: Well, now you got the steam deck.
AstroDev: You scream at your son until he tells you where he hit it.
Steve-O: That's just the switch replacement.
AstroDev: Because you know it's probably what?
eraserhead: It's probably Sam. Sam yeah was the last one to use it, to be honest.
AstroDev: Oh my. Scream at your wife until she tells you where it is.
Steve-O: Where is it? Where are the drugs?
AstroDev: Where the fuck's my switch?
GREASEDAPOLES: We wasn't she playing Hogwarts on it you told me that right
AstroDev: Yeah, just.
eraserhead: Not on Switch.
GREASEDAPOLES: oh it' sounds switch
eraserhead: That would make a Switch explode, that game, probably.
AstroDev: you Yeah, yeah, that'd be. Yeah, it's pretty looking game.
Steve-O: Switch to release game.
GREASEDAPOLES: i
eraserhead: Oh, it might be. No, actually, no, that game, no, no, that game did come out on switch Hogwarts legacy.
AstroDev: Yeah, well.
Steve-O: Was it like a cloud game, one of those weird ones?
AstroDev: Is it really? Oh, oh, that's right. No, it looks it's like.
eraserhead: But it looks like ass, like it looks like hot garbage on it.
AstroDev: Yeah, like, because yeah, I think the thing is, is like.
Steve-O: Oh.
eraserhead: It came out like six months after the it came out for the other consoles.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, it's not on Twitch.
AstroDev: Yeah, because ah isn't it when you go outside like it's you're only outside, it's like a loading screen as opposed to.
eraserhead: Yeah, like rendering.
Steve-O: Oh, it's like it's you got to.
AstroDev: Yeah, it's sectioned off and and like, you know, there's 10 polygons on the 10 trees in the whole fucking forest. And all that.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's all I need.
Steve-O: Dude, that thing that thing is a 2012 console wrapped in a 2017 package.
eraserhead: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah, no, listen, I.
Steve-O: so
AstroDev: I still I still think Hogwarts probably, ah you know, whatever legacy game like it's called, that's like three hours, first three hours in a game I played in a long time.
AstroDev: I was just enthralled with everything about that that game.
Steve-O: Well, I don't know, man.
eraserhead: What ah Hogwarts?
AstroDev: Yeah. like Once you get the Hogwarts, I was like, this is fucking magical.
Steve-O: I don't know, man.
eraserhead: You know, I could say the same thing about Phantom Liberty the first three hours of that.
Steve-O: I could say the same thing about Balatro.
AstroDev: What?
GREASEDAPOLES: mmm right not right he's not he's not he's not kidding the fact he's not wrong well when you emulate escape from New York I mean i dude I want to play that
AstroDev: Oh my God.
eraserhead: Once you get Chris, once you get the dog down, once you get the dog down, it just.
Steve-O: Dude, dude.
eraserhead: He's not ready.
Steve-O: He's not wrong, he's not wrong. Dude, that was kind of telling when chris when Chris changed his entire tone on the game again.
eraserhead: That's what I'm saying, dude.
eraserhead: It really is like that.
Steve-O: ah Chris was like, I'm never going back, I'm never going back. And it's like, Chris, what's it like to be back? And he's like, I'm loving it.
GREASEDAPOLES: that's even I was man I really I I didn't play it since it came out really how long ago was that four years ago five
AstroDev: Yeah, Chris, you were ah you were a certified hater, dude.
eraserhead: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: Well, no, he didn't you didn't but you didn't know you didn't really it wasn't like.
eraserhead: Yeah.
Steve-O: The five almost.
eraserhead: Yeah, so that's why I think Devin's well, I think that was actually really going to like it, especially since he's a Witcher laser, since you're a Witcher gla like you bop and twirl on that on that thing on Witcher three.
AstroDev: No, I yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Let me tell you Devin, it's, it's, um, the little tweaks they make. Like the big problem that I always ran into was they tied armor to clothing in the original cyberpunk, which was so fucking dumb.
AstroDev: Yeah, stupid. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: So instead what they did is they just tied it to your cyberware.
eraserhead: transmog it yeah, and the trend and you transmog it um oh Yeah, you yeah, you don't get you don't get armor from clothes anymore You tran you transmog yeah, it's really
Steve-O: That makes so much more sense.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: So all your armor is based on the cool cyberware that you're buying and upgrading, which you can upgrade. And it has it adds attribute points. It adds all these other like little little modifiers to everything.
AstroDev: Mm hmm.
GREASEDAPOLES: that You can change those when you upgrade them.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: All that stuff is new. like All of it, the whole thing.
Steve-O: It's interesting.
AstroDev: Yeah, like I'll be honest, too, it's like because Witcher like it is tied to your armor. But like eventually, like pretty quickly, you find Witcher gear, which is like, oh, this is the gear I'm going to be wearing.
eraserhead: This is what you want to wear.
AstroDev: And then there's different there's like the cat school, the bear school, wolf like there's different types.
eraserhead: This is what you want to wear.
AstroDev: So essentially you're either mixing and matching Witcher year or that. So it's like. Okay, cool. And it I remember trying to play, you know, cyberpunk and I was like, Oh my God, I look like a fucking like you only kind of look like an idiot for the first like few hours of Witcher 3.
eraserhead: Yeah, you kind of look like a goofball at the time.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, I had great clothing on in the first few hours of Cyberpunk 2077.
eraserhead: Yeah.
eraserhead: But it wasn't optimal. But it wasn't an optimal.
GREASEDAPOLES: No, no, no, my dick was out for three hours playing that game.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
eraserhead: Yeah.
Steve-O: i remember you saying that
AstroDev: You know, I'm telling you right now that the the biggest the biggest thing that I've run into and it's it's really a me. It's definitely a me problem. But like there's that like hacking minigame, which is basically Sudoku and like my brain doesn't understand it.
eraserhead: Evan, there's an app.
GREASEDAPOLES: That is so easy though.
eraserhead: There's an app out where you can where you can take ah yeah when you could take ah there's an app you can take a picture of it and it'll solve it for you.
GREASEDAPOLES: and
AstroDev: I.
AstroDev: Yeah, dude, I like.
eraserhead: You just pause it and you do it.
GREASEDAPOLES: so easy i look like i fucked up a single one of those in my entire free rod playthrough no yeah well when the um when
AstroDev: I'll be honest, like, but dude, I get so mad because I'm like, how do I not understand this?
eraserhead: Somebody made an app and it'll do it.
AstroDev: Dude, I looked because I was in the tutorial and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I do not understand what's happening. I was getting so upset with myself.
eraserhead: Now, Chris, you get to the point where sometimes like getting all of them isn't really the optimal choice. But you have to do it because cause because you're your ego.
GREASEDAPOLES: for the the ammo drops or the whatever, the the drops in Dogtown. Like you have to do that to open them.
eraserhead: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Right. You have to do a little crack in the code and then then it's fine. I don't because the whole thing is you're trying to line up the numbers. So you're always you're getting the next number in the row or column.
GREASEDAPOLES: You know, I just really.
eraserhead: Yeah, that's all it is, Devin. Maybe you're over overthinking it.
AstroDev: by
GREASEDAPOLES: It's really simple.
eraserhead: I don't know, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's just once you figure it out, it clicks your out.
AstroDev: dude Dude I Know it's just like Math was never my strong suit, but and and I know I know it's not math I know it's not math But it's like I look at it and my brain just like it's like not doesn't fucking compute dude so I know one day or I'll just take pictures.
GREASEDAPOLES: It doesn't do a math.
eraserhead: It's not even math. It's numbers. It's numbers.
GREASEDAPOLES: It, the game itself, the shooting is better.
AstroDev: I'll take pictures with the app because it's Yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: The driving still, it's not great, but like once you get great cars in the game, like I have like literally the car from blade. with machine guns on it and shit.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like that thing handles perfectly, it drives wonderfully.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like there is like a level where cars, the cars you get are in the beginning are awful. They're just, they handle awfully.
AstroDev: Oh, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: They slide everywhere. It's just a mess.
AstroDev: I had one car and I was like, OK.
GREASEDAPOLES: But you get a motorcycle. That's really, you know, obviously, and you know, first person motorcycle funny, like that's really works.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: You just get the Akira motorcycle.
GREASEDAPOLES: I always, Yeah, I got that.
eraserhead: You're good.
AstroDev: No, I mix. a Listen, let me let me beat something up to I'll get all 16 and it'll take me like 12 hours.
GREASEDAPOLES: Long story short, there's a lot of good changes.
eraserhead: um
AstroDev: and lama
GREASEDAPOLES: A lot of good changes. There really is.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's made a lot of good changes.
AstroDev: I'm into it.
eraserhead: No, get beat sound level two and then get your PS5 Pro and then play Cyberpunk on your PS5 Pro.
Steve-O: Is the pro out?
eraserhead: And 4K. 4K 60 frames.
AstroDev: Uh, the pros out there cyber or there's no cyberpunk pro patch because they said they're not going to bother.
GREASEDAPOLES: oh
eraserhead: Oh, there's not?
AstroDev: No, they said, no, we're, we're, we're good. We've worked a enough on this fucking game.
eraserhead: But another patch just came out for Cyberpunk.
AstroDev: And know yeah, but like, yeah, but to be fair, to be fair though, the Witcher like pro patch or whatever, or the PS five patch on the Witcher three, like took them like a year to fix.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, 2 .2.
Steve-O: Yeah, they keep putting patches on.
AstroDev: And they were like, probably like, you know, what is fucking is just like it was a graphically fucked up.
Steve-O: Why'd they have to fix it?
AstroDev: This shit was funky.
Steve-O: Is their main team like shit?
AstroDev: I don't.
Steve-O: And then they have like a B team that like works on the fixing the shit teams problems.
AstroDev: ah Well, I think honestly. Honestly, it was just like they were trying to, you know, it's like they just took this game and that you can't.
AstroDev: It's very clear you can't just switch the sliders off and it just looks better.
Steve-O: Right.
AstroDev: Like they were like.
GREASEDAPOLES: it's like zap branigan and there's the guy who he works with like zap branigan is the main cd project red group and then the other guy what does he say zip he's the guy has to fix it yeah dude this is a serious glitch
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: ah Yeah, he does all the work.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: e
AstroDev: who Yeah, they were just like, dude, oh, fucking no. Like, there I don't know, like everything was really blurry forever. And there was a point where. Almost close to the penis ah glitch, Chris, but instead of a penis, it was a hammer, like a hammer just would not leave the screen.
AstroDev: We say, what the fuck, dude?
GREASEDAPOLES: ah Well, I will say it's still It
AstroDev: So I think they saw that and they're like, let's, Cyberpunk's in a good spot. Let's not break it again with a fucking pro patch.
GREASEDAPOLES: isn't still a little buggy like you get some weird shit But like that shit I'm used to in like Bethesda games, you know, basically see project grad is a new Bethesda and I'm okay with it I Mean listen when you crave the world as much as I do, I guess you're you're able to look past some shit
AstroDev: Yeah.
AstroDev: Oh yeah.
Steve-O: Have we been trained? We've been trained that like a partially broken game ain't that bad.
AstroDev: Maybe.
Steve-O: That's the thing. It sounds like they fixed like a majority of the actual like gameplay problems. Like that was like kind of the key stuff where, you know, you're playing it and you're like, oh they could have done this better.
Steve-O: And then they went and did. So good on them.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, polish it up.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Great game, really fun.
AstroDev: You guys, anybody watch that Xbox thing, the direct they did.
GREASEDAPOLES: a
Steve-O: Uh, I watched, I think some of it. I watched midway through and I did a, I did a yes when I saw the game that I picked for the fantasy draft look pretty good.
AstroDev: Oh, the Claire obscure game.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah, it does look good. um I have a weird I don't even know if it's a weird complaint. I don't like the art style of the characters.
Steve-O: Hey, that's fair, but also counterpoint it's a budget title.
AstroDev: They all look the same like if. OK.
Steve-O: It's 50 bucks, 50 bucks.
GREASEDAPOLES: it's boge table
AstroDev: Oh, is it really? Because the plot's sick, Chris, this is the plot. ah Basically, some fucking God, God like being put up a giant monolith and put a number on it.
AstroDev: And then every year that number goes down and everybody who's that age fucking just disappears.
Steve-O: Wait, it just, the number goes down or it changes?
AstroDev: So now they're on like No, they say every year it goes down one.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's a budget table.
AstroDev: It's like a countdown or maybe change.
GREASEDAPOLES: This sounds like, you know what this sounds like?
AstroDev: I don't know. But the point is.
GREASEDAPOLES: This sounds like the world ends with you.
AstroDev: Yeah, but the point is, is like they're on. So and then they have these expeditions to go and try to figure what it is or stop it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Is this Japanese?
AstroDev: No, it's like Frank.
Steve-O: No, it's French?
AstroDev: Yeah, Frank.
Steve-O: Yeah, French.
GREASEDAPOLES: Whoa, interesting.
AstroDev: Yeah, it's strange. But ah but yeah, so you're playing an expedition 33. So everybody. above the age of 33 has been fucking like disintegrated or dust like something happens to them, right?
AstroDev: They all died.
Steve-O: ah Sucks to suck, dude.
AstroDev: But like in terms of the actual like character design, I'm like, I don't hate it. But like if you put a if you just had a God, what the hell is the word?
GREASEDAPOLES: All bunch of hot 33 year olds.
AstroDev: No, no, what's the word I'm looking for? ah Silhouettes. If you had silhouettes of the i like I don't think I'd be able to tell who's who. And like they're all just kind of wearing like tattered uniforms and they have like weird bony robot arms, I think.
GREASEDAPOLES: Cool.
AstroDev: Doesn't look bad.
GREASEDAPOLES: What's this called?
AstroDev: Looks good.
Steve-O: it's also This is also a Steam game, too. so it's It's called ClaireLune Expedition 33.
AstroDev: PS5 game to.
GREASEDAPOLES: What is this called?
AstroDev: Claire Obscura. Oh.
Steve-O: You can just look up Expedition 33.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah, Expedition 33. Well, they'll get you where you go.
Steve-O: um
AstroDev: ah
Steve-O: But that that got me excited, because that was the game I picked.
AstroDev: Now, what? ah
Steve-O: John was like, auto -draft. And I was like, no, you colored me out for looking at the top of the list.
AstroDev: Steve, Steve, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. you When you told me what this was, I i thought i thought this was like another Genshin Impact game.
Steve-O: Dude, I didn't know nothing. I didn't knew nothing.
Steve-O: I quickly looked it up before I picked it, and I was like, this actually looks pretty good, so.
GREASEDAPOLES: What kind of game is it?
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: like What is it?
Steve-O: It's like RPG.
AstroDev: it's It's like a Persona 5 looking RPG.
GREASEDAPOLES: RPG?
AstroDev: Like turn -based, legit.
Steve-O: Here, i'll i'll send you I'll send you some ah some stuff.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Steve-O: I'll send you some materials, Chris.
AstroDev: ah So on top of that, they and these are all like developer like directs. So like these are all like each game had like a 10 minute. This is what we're doing and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, it's definitely canned for sure. Some of the language, but like you got a good look at the game. So there was that there was Ninja Gaiden four, which is a team effort by Team Ninja and Platinum games. And I don't know what kind of platinum we're going to get because You know, there's.
eraserhead: I mean, they're all kind of... men I mean, except for Bayonetta, I guess, right? Like, what else have they done?
AstroDev: ah Near Automata, which is like the the game, in my opinion, from them, and it's awesome. But I don't know if he's to work.
AstroDev: Is he even with the company anymore?
Steve-O: I don't know.
AstroDev: ah The guy who did near who's now, of course, now his name, I cannot fucking think of.
Steve-O: The guy with the moon for a head.
AstroDev: Yeah, the guy was a creator, what is his name? Yoko Taro.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: um Yeah, I don't even know if he's still with them or not, but it's just like.
AstroDev: He's an odd dude, but he's that game fucking rules, but that's that's because the comments really good and the story is crazy.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: um Things guy never really had much of a story. Not going to say for can't have a good story, but it's like, you know, whatever.
Steve-O: I'm interested in seeing the take on Ninja Gaiden now, because I feel like back in the day when Xbox came out.
AstroDev: I don't, yeah, I wonder if it's going to play like, like the others.
Steve-O: Yeah, because it's like people people were like Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox is like the hardest game ever.
AstroDev: It fucking is. Have you ever played it?
Steve-O: Yeah, no, no, I remember like playing it and being like this dude, this first level is hard.
AstroDev: Yeah, I could, I could never get past the boss in the demo. I was like, this is brutal.
Steve-O: The tutorial. um
AstroDev: Yeah. I'm just at the tutorial level. Uh, yeah, dude, the fucking brutal, uh,
Steve-O: But like, is that going to be like, you know, because, you know, Elden Rings Dark Soul, are people going to look at this and be like, this is kind of like maybe they're kind of taking it down that avenue because they know, like, you know, gamers are down for the difficulty jump now.
AstroDev: I mean, I don't because it's like I don't think Ninja Gaiden Gaiden, right? Because they also shadow dropped black to or to black or whatever.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: Like, I don't know if that game plays like a. Platinum game, right? Platinum games all kind of play. There's a feel to it. There's a vibe to it. And it's not ultra difficult.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: Like I've never played Sekiro, but I'd say Ninja Gaiden is closer to Sekiro than it is like a Elden Ring or Soulsborne type game. But I don't know. It's just ah honestly, my my issue is that Platinum's doing it and I don't know what kind of platinum we're going to get.
Steve-O: It's very weird because they'll be like, hit, miss, hit, miss, miss, hit, hit, miss, miss, hit, missed.
AstroDev: The combat look good. You're not going to lie. ah Yeah.
Steve-O: They don't mess with combat, their combat's.
AstroDev: Which actually, ironically, brings me to south of midnight. Which is one of my games, I picked on my draft and I'm actually cooling off on that game a little bit.
AstroDev: I think the story like it's an interesting look. It's kind of got like a twenty twenty FPS kind of like claymation style like style.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: I don't know claymation, but it's yeah, the frame rate is definitely like choppy on purpose. It's got that aesthetic.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: Um, but like when they were in combat, I'm like, this looks bad or it looks very pedestrian granite. This could be just because seconds before I just watched n Ninja Ninja Gaiden nonsense.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: So like, I, I don't know. It just kind of looked a little meh to me.
Steve-O: This was a game that when I found it, it was by compulsion games. I kind of got weary of because I bit big on their first game. Um, we happy few.
AstroDev: Oh, yeah.
Steve-O: I was so excited for we happy few. And then I remember playing the early access of it and I was like, Oh, y 'all made just like some weird like survival crafting game.
AstroDev: You know, that game's a lie. Like I still I'm like, you just lied to everyone.
Steve-O: Yeah.
AstroDev: You do what the fuck you were doing.
GREASEDAPOLES: You think they're gonna do it again?
AstroDev: No, this is in play.
Steve-O: I don't think they're going to do it again, but
GREASEDAPOLES: They're gonna lie again?
Steve-O: It definitely, it definitely they they have a problem with the game they are selling versus the game they are making.
GREASEDAPOLES: I do like it sometimes when games lie to me though, like inscription.
AstroDev: Yeah, but this.
Steve-O: Inscription, yeah, no, that's that's good stuff.
AstroDev: Yeah, but yeah, but like the trailer for inscription was like a first -person shooter Then you played it and you're like who what
Steve-O: That would be a fun thing to do where it's like the best parts when games lied to you.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, yeah, dude, I love that Doki Doki Literature Club best liars I mean finish it and i finished That's it
Steve-O: Because like I'm thinking of like Metal Gear Solid 2,
AstroDev: i yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're this is the wrong kind of line like we have a few made it seem like it was gonna be Bioshock All right, yeah, you can send
Steve-O: Yeah.
Steve-O: Let us sit on this. um want I want to kind of come up with a little list with you guys at some point about the best the best time games have lied to you for the better.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: Not the best liars in gaming.
AstroDev: And then, uh, yeah. And then after that, you know, after south of midnight, we got to, or, you know, after these three games, they end on doom, the dark ages, which I still think looks really good.
AstroDev: Uh, I do feel some sort of way about them removing the gory kills. I understand.
Steve-O: That's some of the best part. That's some of the best part though.
AstroDev: Well, yeah, but some people,
GREASEDAPOLES: Where's the slide whistle?
Steve-O: Oh, hold on.
AstroDev: Here's the thing though. Yeah, yeah, there it is. Uh, but here's the thing. Some people hate the kills, those gory kills because they're like, well, they're like, yo, I'm, I'm moving, I'm strafing, I'm jumping, I'm diving.
Steve-O: Too gory.
AstroDev: And then I just do a can animation.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh.
AstroDev: And listen, I get it. Like you rip one eyeball out. You do it 75 more times. You probably get a little tired of it. Personally, I never did.
GREASEDAPOLES: so and you're all
AstroDev: So they got rid of that, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: You're also grabbing the monster or demon and you blaring the music, the soundtrack music in his ears that you're listening to.
AstroDev: Yeah, like it it all. Yeah, to me, it was very fitting. Yeah. But so instead, now all those types of kills are like contextual kills. So it's like, oh, here's like a purple circle. Oh, here's like a yellow circle. And then like you hate them with the flail or you punch them or you kick them or you just, you know, you do whatever. And then they just kind of like but they just like fall over and die. And I'm like.
AstroDev: That is not the visceral vibe that I like.
GREASEDAPOLES: Listen.
AstroDev: You know, I like so jumping on your fucking thing and digging my arm into your eyeball and ripping it out to me. That's I really like that, but they removed it. So it's supposed to move a little bit smoother, I guess.
AstroDev: But I don't know.
GREASEDAPOLES: These these ah what they call boomer shooters games.
AstroDev: I like that. Yeah, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I have a limit, right? And with every one of them where and it's like sort of like eating marshmallows when you never know when the last marshmallow is going to be, when you're tired of them, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: Cause for me, at least there's just a point where I eat like the last marshmallow I'm going to eat. I'm like, I don't ever want to see a fucking marshmallow again. Like I've had that last one. I've done with them for a while.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like they can go away. Boomer shooters are sort of the same way. There's only so much of those games I can play before I'm like, I fucking hate this. I don't want to keep doing it.
GREASEDAPOLES: And that was kind of my issue with doom eternal. Like I,
Steve-O: I agree, I think the levels were so long and do maternal that I would like stop midway through and I'd be like, I need a little break.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: See, I like bolt gun. Like bolt gun, you kind of drift through the levels. They're big, but like you get through them really quickly, except for like the last level, which makes sense. It's the last level.
Steve-O: but final part
GREASEDAPOLES: It should be big and expansive and it should be all different levels to it.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: But really the whole soul of the game is you're just constantly moving in a straight line and it's quick and fast and fun. And I i just, I can't do another boomer shooter that's just like, after 20 hours, I'm like, meh.
AstroDev: Well, this is this looks a little less quick. So the what they're kind of stating is like, you know, in the in the previous one, you're like a fighter jet in this one, you're more like a tank.
Steve-O: The final part.
AstroDev: You know, you're like a fucking just throwing a saw blade shield, which, again, objectively, I think like it's really hard to say that's not cool looking.
GREASEDAPOLES: No, of course that's cool. Like aesthetically, that's awesome.
AstroDev: um Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: but like
Steve-O: Mm -hmm Yeah Yeah, I got burnt I feel like that was the one thing that eternal made me like go like oh they don't understand why people like this and
AstroDev: And, you know, the the gameplay, I think like I see the gameplay and I'm like, I'm sold. I don't like this one decision that they made, but like I'm pretty sold on the game in general.
AstroDev: um But, you know, I know, yeah, Chris and Steve, not big fans, John.
GREASEDAPOLES: Also didn't like the story in the journal.
AstroDev: and
eraserhead: I didn't play I didn't play eternal.
AstroDev: Yeah. Yeah.
eraserhead: I was clown and Devon, I was clown and Devon, then I watched the Charles like, oh my God, this looks really good.
AstroDev: Well, John, you were feeling you were feeling this one.
eraserhead: This looks really fun. um I might actually get it.
AstroDev: He looks so cool, though, with this fur.
Steve-O: Dude, dude, it's the, it's Man of Steel, man.
AstroDev: He is amazed.
Steve-O: It's that Man of Steel trailer.
eraserhead: If that was his hair, I was his hair, though, instead of like shoulder fur, that'd be.
Steve-O: Oh, he just had this like big, long man.
AstroDev: Game over.
eraserhead: Yeah, he have he'd have infinite. He have infinite aura, but he doesn't.
Steve-O: Nah, it's just a shawl, just a shawl or something.
AstroDev: Yeah, dude.
eraserhead: It's OK. Yeah, it's just and still cool.
AstroDev: and Yeah. Oh man.
eraserhead: But if that was his hair, we're talking generational.
Steve-O: That's the thing, like this could be like an absolute banger and i' I'm gonna eat my words.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: I think, you know, some of the things in Doom Eternal kind of like maybe me go like a little ooh. but this could fix it all. um And I just, you know, I want the Doomguy to be a badass.
Steve-O: And I know this is, you know, pretty cool. But that second one, all the stuff I loved in the first one where it was like the character did not care about the story in the game you were playing.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yes.
Steve-O: And then immediately your character is kneeling to some ghosts.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yes.
Steve-O: And then the main bad guy is like literally a foot in front of you, like punching distance. And you're just listening to them soliloquy to you.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. Yeah.
Steve-O: I'm like the Doomguy from the first game would have grabbed that guy by the head and just squished.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's sort of like wonk. Remember that? And you ever see that comic where they had link, but he's this giant, like roided out monster man.
Steve-O: Oh. Mm hmm.
GREASEDAPOLES: And and like instead of like using bombs or anything, he just takes someone and jams a hole into ah a wall with their body, like chisels a hole with their bones.
GREASEDAPOLES: like that's I like that aspect.
Steve-O: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's what I loved about the first Doom game.
Steve-O: And if that's a return, if this is a return to that, let's let's go big thumbs up.
AstroDev: ah I got some bad news for you. They they specifically were like, oh, we're we're giving you cut scenes instead of like the slayer diaries or whatever. So there's that.
GREASEDAPOLES: oh no
AstroDev: yeah Hey, I'm just saying you can watch the thing. I'm saving you some time, but.
GREASEDAPOLES: like and You know what you are Devin you're like every time we have a like optimism going well guys, you know like this That's done then like three times already Yeah, you really are
AstroDev: ah
Steve-O: did you do
Steve-O: and
AstroDev: Yeah, I'm just saying.
AstroDev: I'm fucking Debbie Downer over here.
Steve-O: wait that Devan's leaning in, he's like, Sarah's second plane has hit the tower. Oh!
GREASEDAPOLES: like he hurt
Steve-O: Oh, I gotta read to these school children.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, you guys are gonna like this he's bagels all the time but No, no, I wouldn't you're right.
AstroDev: But like, would you would you? add Would you would you forgive?
Steve-O: ah
AstroDev: Would you ever forgive me if I didn't say anything and you guys buy it and you're like but two hours of fucking cutscenes?
Steve-O: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: No, I respect it It's just funny.
AstroDev: I mean, hey, maybe.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like it's it's funny. You should have went out on the bagels line He goes hard on carbs
Steve-O: He's bail all the time.
AstroDev: he's He dude he gets really fat in the plot yeah I'm on God mode right now
Steve-O: That would be fun if like whatever bagel he ate, he got that power. And then at the very end, you get like an everything bagel.
GREASEDAPOLES: Dude, that's God mode.
Steve-O: when up we but So are you confident with this pick still, Devin?
GREASEDAPOLES: That was a great, that was a great battle. Thank you.
Steve-O: Because you also have Doom Eternal or Doom Darkness.
AstroDev: I'm confident. um ah I have, uh, I have doom.
Steve-O: Doom the Dark Age.
AstroDev: Yeah. The dark age. And I have south of midnight. I am confident in both that will get me points. I think that's the midnight side of the game.
GREASEDAPOLES: What's south of midnight? What the hell was that?
AstroDev: I was talking about before. It's like the, it's like, it takes place in fucking
Steve-O: Southern Gothic Folklore.
AstroDev: It's like the clay. Yeah, Southern Gothic folklore.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hmm.
AstroDev: It's kind of like claymation style and.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, that's yeah, OK, you were you were talking.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, I remember.
AstroDev: But I don't know, the combat seems a bit average and I'm not saying it's an adventure games. I don't know how combat focused it is, but and he the combat might be fine. It's just I saw that right after seeing Ninja Gaiden nonsense.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, it's sort of like ah sinners, like that time period. So what you're saying like Southern vampire.
AstroDev: Yeah, I had. No, no, it's it's there's flashlights because the whole plot is like you get in a fight with your mom and then like your fucking house floats away in a hurricane.
GREASEDAPOLES: No.
AstroDev: And then you got to do, do not like everything except for the combat kind of like I i was vibing with everything.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, oh, that sounds, that sounds pretty cool.
AstroDev: I saw the comment. I was like, and I don't know if it's going to be fun to play for like 16 hours or whatever, but.
GREASEDAPOLES: Did, did anybody see, uh, sorry, it's like way like this. Anybody see this, the sinners trailer that they played during the, Oh, that looks cool, man.
eraserhead: A new one. nige I saw a thing for it, but I didn't click on it yet.
AstroDev: Yeah, sinners is.
eraserhead: Are they actually vampires or what? Because it wasn't clear in the last trailer that they were vampires, but people were saying that they're vampires.
GREASEDAPOLES: So.
GREASEDAPOLES: It looks as though this is what I gather from that trailer. So it's like a like a group of like hillbillies that come up to there. It looks like a bar out in the middle of the woods. And it's all they got.
GREASEDAPOLES: It looks like a predominantly black bar, like African American bar. And they come out and they're all white and they're like they start playing the song about eating black people like drinking their blood and stuff and like
eraserhead: Oh, so it is vampires.
GREASEDAPOLES: like a real hillbilly kind of so like a beat. And then you just see the whole bar is surrounded by what looks to be vampires and they're all white.
eraserhead: Oh man.
GREASEDAPOLES: So I, I, my theory is that there's like a KKK.
eraserhead: So the white people are vampires.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think they're the KKK are like vampires in this town and the white people in town look the other way when they eat black people.
eraserhead: Oh, interesting.
GREASEDAPOLES: I don't care.
AstroDev: I mean, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's what I gather from it.
eraserhead: Because I thought I thought the Michael B Jordan twins were were going to be the vampires for some reason.
AstroDev: My argument.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think they get bit to fight back. Like they turn to kill the other races.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: Are they survived or something?
AstroDev: My argument though, is like, why would a vampire be racist?
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, it's a best food source.
eraserhead: Well, if they if they look if they look at at black people as cattle instead of actual people and they just eat on them, then yeah I would say that's pretty racist, right?
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's the whole point.
AstroDev: Like no one cares.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, they're like, yeah, nobody cares.
AstroDev: I was just.
eraserhead: Like they
GREASEDAPOLES: No white people care that black people are getting
eraserhead: Yeah, they as long as they turn the other cheek, they they they they don't they're not the ones that get eaten.
AstroDev: So they're just like, listen.
AstroDev: They're saying the cows are, you know what, dude, so you're telling hold on, you're telling me that this is just this movie is just the entire marketing plot of.
Steve-O: Remember the name of it.
AstroDev: So marketing.
Steve-O: Remember the name of it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Come on, Devin.
AstroDev: Oh, no.
GREASEDAPOLES: Get there. You got it, buddy.
eraserhead: Finish it. Finish it, though.
GREASEDAPOLES: Finish it.
Steve-O: Phoenician.
eraserhead: Finish it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Finish the fight.
AstroDev: Oh, fuck.
Steve-O: Phoenician.
AstroDev: Chick -fil -A.
GREASEDAPOLES: Chick -fil -A?
eraserhead: Oh, no.
AstroDev: It's the cows holding signs as they eat more chicken. This is what you're telling me.
eraserhead: Oh my goodness.
AstroDev: This entire plot line. You fucking, you telling me that's it?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: It's a human.
eraserhead: Is that where you were going, or is this a save?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that's it. That's it, man.
Steve-O: Yeah, yeah, did you?
AstroDev: Yeah. That was a hundred percent where I was going.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm done.
Steve-O: Okay, I thought you called it Audible. He threw the ball at the ground.
AstroDev: No, no, I legitimately, I legitimately could not remember the name of Chick -fil -A.
eraserhead: Yeah, I was like, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
AstroDev: I was like, race i literally I was like racist chicken.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's fine. and You're right.
AstroDev: Wait, homophobic chicken.
GREASEDAPOLES: You're right.
AstroDev: And then my brain just kind of slowly caught up. But ever not seriously though, that seems like what you're telling me.
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah kind of yeah
AstroDev: It's the cows saying and eat more chicken.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's not that far off, but yes, it's a nuisance from white people's perspectives that are getting eaten by the KKK and they don't care.
AstroDev: All right.
AstroDev: You know what?
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm fine.
AstroDev: Hey, hey, vampires are probably closed on Sundays.
GREASEDAPOLES: Sure.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, I see the board.
AstroDev: Give me the fucking drum beat, Steve.
Steve-O: Oh, um...
GREASEDAPOLES: There it is.
AstroDev: Thank you. Goddammit.
GREASEDAPOLES: If you gotta ask for it, it's really not as effective.
AstroDev: Quicker on that. Yeah. Fuck you. Fuck you, Chris. Blue Valentine's socks. Fuck you.
GREASEDAPOLES: It blue velvet, but it's all right. yeah
Steve-O: no
AstroDev: I just spit water everywhere.
GREASEDAPOLES: you and we work
AstroDev: I quit! I'm done!
GREASEDAPOLES: All right, you should take a break.
AstroDev: Oh, fuck.
GREASEDAPOLES: Take a breather. Take a breather, man.
AstroDev: Dude, literally my fucking shirt is soaked.
GREASEDAPOLES: All right, you want to talk about some news?
AstroDev: Alright.
GREASEDAPOLES: Let's get to this news here.
AstroDev: Yeah, bloopers. Ah, bloopers. Fuck. Alright, Chris, you go. I'm i'm done.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, let's see what we got here. um We got ah the Razzie Awards. They announced their nominations this year. Of course, Razzies are the worst films of the year that are nominated for these awards.
GREASEDAPOLES: um Borderlands, a Joker 2, Reagan, Madam Web, they all are.
AstroDev: I didn't even know Reagan was a movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yep, that came out this year. They're all leading the pack and they have Madam Web of Megalopolis. I forgot about that. That's also on there.
AstroDev: Do you think do you think there's people that like legitimately get upset, like by snubs the same way we do for the Oscars?
GREASEDAPOLES: What do you mean the bad movies didn't.
AstroDev: Like, I can't believe. Well, just can't be covered hard to get the nominated for worst actor.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. No people are talking about how um what movie was it. oh There was like some controversy of another bad movie that was not on this list. Ah, I'm going to forget it.
GREASEDAPOLES: God damn it. I forgotten it. Oh Jesus. There was another bad movie. They came out this year.
AstroDev: Chick -fil -A, Chris Chick -fil -A.
GREASEDAPOLES: Why am I blanking? Chick -fil -A. Um, yeah, no, there's, there's a good list of shit here guys. Um, they pick some Jerry Seinfeld's up for Razzie from frosted.
Steve-O: Chunky shit chunky shit You didn't see madam web You know who didn't make this venom and I'm didn't make this list did it
AstroDev: Can I wait, can I can I tell you I've only seen one of these movies?
GREASEDAPOLES: Really?
AstroDev: That's a I've I've seen, you know, yeah I see kind of a lot.
GREASEDAPOLES: You seen Argyle?
AstroDev: See a lot of things.
GREASEDAPOLES: Is that it?
AstroDev: No, Argyle. No, I meant on the worst picture.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, worth, worth doing.
AstroDev: I've only seen Joker. I didn't see Borderlands, Madam Web, Megalopolis, Reagan.
GREASEDAPOLES: No, me, me either. Yeah, just Joker.
AstroDev: Yeah, no. ah Yeah, that should have.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, Venom. There was another movie I'm completely blanking on. They were like, oh, I didn't.
AstroDev: Craven.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think it was crazy, maybe.
AstroDev: ah crave Craven, Craven missed the boat on the illustrious Razzies. You break a fucking rule, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: hey There was, there's always drama for this stuff.
AstroDev: Come on.
Steve-O: The Crow.
AstroDev: The crow's really bad, too, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that was it. They said The Crow should have been nominated for Best Picture, Worst Picture.
AstroDev: Yeah, over what though? I mean, it's not pretty bad.
GREASEDAPOLES: Probably over Joker.
AstroDev: The race Dallas Howard is really bad.
GREASEDAPOLES: Like I don't...
AstroDev: Like a lie.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think i think Joker shouldn't have been on that list. I think Crow, The Crow, probably should have replaced Joker. That's my theory. That's me, just me. Prequel, remake, ripoff, or sequel.
GREASEDAPOLES: The Crow, Joker, Kraven the Hunter made that list. Mufasa, The Lion King, and Rebel Moon 2.
AstroDev: Dude, I forgot Rebel Moon to game out.
eraserhead: Ugh.
GREASEDAPOLES: That didn't get, that didn't get, that's worst picture.
Steve-O: People just forgot about it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Wow. Wow. I did just fucking forgot, man.
AstroDev: You know what's funny? You know what's funny? You know what's funny is like I watched Rebel Moon part two and I was like, bad. And then remember this year they came out with the R rated version.
AstroDev: And I watched Rebel Moon rated R version part one. And I was like, still pretty bad. And then I just never bothered with Rebel Moon part two. I just can't do it.
AstroDev: And I was like, why would I want to put myself through this?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, he probably did the best.
AstroDev: So.
GREASEDAPOLES: Probably made a good move there, sir.
AstroDev: Dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: But as far as Razzie Awards go, these all most of these movies are deserving of these awful awards. And I wish some of these actors show up for them, because that's always fun, right?
Steve-O: It's always a delight to see that the actors recognize that they were in a turn.
AstroDev: I'll be honest, I feel like it's crazy.
GREASEDAPOLES: You think so?
Steve-O: Yeah?
AstroDev: Because all right. And maybe I'm being picky about this, but like, I can only think of when Halle Berry did it. And I was like, this is incredibly embarrassing.
GREASEDAPOLES: I thought she had balls for doing it.
AstroDev: I, but she's like, cause she was like, thank you for putting to be such a shitty fucking man.
Steve-O: Yeah. And then she just electrocuted that toad looking guy.
GREASEDAPOLES: Not an Oscar. Got that.
Steve-O: That was sick.
AstroDev: I was like, bro, like, I don't know. I don't know.
GREASEDAPOLES: I like, I like honesty. I do enjoy a good dose of honesty.
AstroDev: I think she's, uh, you know what? Yeah. I'm a, I'm an old man.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's cool.
Steve-O: Also, they might give you free dinner.
GREASEDAPOLES: Get free dinner.
Steve-O: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's all raspberries.
AstroDev: yeah wait ah So we think we think these celebrities we think these celebrities are hurting for free dinners Halle Berry's like man I need a free food Yeah, yeah actually Steve
Steve-O: Free dinner.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's all raspberries.
Steve-O: and
GREASEDAPOLES: It's a bucket of raspberries.
Steve-O: I mean, that's the thing, you know, keep in mind.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, dude.
Steve-O: We give yet we give you a nice lobster thoroughbred door.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, what's up? At the Razzies? Damn, there we go.
Steve-O: Maybe perhaps a filet mignon. What's that called?
AstroDev: ah What are you got in surfer turf?
Steve-O: A surf and turf?
GREASEDAPOLES: Ooh, okay.
AstroDev: Yeah Francis Ford Coppola's calling him.
GREASEDAPOLES: it i I'd still go.
AstroDev: Well, you guys serve a turf. I'll show up before megalopolis.
GREASEDAPOLES: He would...
AstroDev: I'll do it Yeah, yeah so It's basically
GREASEDAPOLES: He... No, he wouldn't. He's too old.
Steve-O: Ooh, yeah, what if that's the scam, you make bad movies so you get to eat at the Razzies?
GREASEDAPOLES: Um...
GREASEDAPOLES: They got the best food, like the Oscar foods shit, but the Razzie food's like the best.
Steve-O: They really know how to treat these shitheads, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: They just... Oh, they got the best caterers, I don't know.
AstroDev: So it's like the insurance scam the fucking one guy the German director would do for like this Yeah, it's a wee ball, but for food I'll make all these bad movies that make billions and andd I get it and I got lobster.
Steve-O: Oh, um, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yui Bowl!
Steve-O: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: Nice work, Yui.
Steve-O: Oh boy!
AstroDev: Oh boy lobster for me so Chris give me a give me a snub.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, well, on the other side of town with shittier food, the Oscars also listed their nominations this week. So.
Steve-O: Boo!
AstroDev: Give me a snub. Just give me one snub
GREASEDAPOLES: Hard snub.
GREASEDAPOLES: Let's see, so we go to the best pictures. Let me take a look first. I just want to, because there's 10.
AstroDev: So many.
GREASEDAPOLES: So Inora got nominated, the Brutalist, Complete Unknown, ah Conclave, Dune Part Two,
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Amelia Perez I'm still here nickel boys the substance and wicked all made the list Wicked I would take Amelia Perez off the list and put heretic in its place That's my stub For actor and a supporting no, he didn't knock it nominated
AstroDev: What?
eraserhead: Good for the Razzies, the Razzies.
Steve-O: What the? and
AstroDev: Oh, you know what? Actually. Yeah, he didn't get a wait is he nominated No, no dude, yeah, that's a snub you grant snubbed official
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that's kind of rough. The list of supporting actors, I really think it's gonna go to Yuri Borsoff, the guy from Menorah. If you watched it, you know, the guy's great. Everybody loves that guy too, like in real life. so But Guy Pearce is fucking great in the brutalist, I think. I know he's wonderful.
GREASEDAPOLES: um
GREASEDAPOLES: Directing, I think, leaving out Denny Velvenu is a huge nub. per Doom part two. That is, that bothers me.
Steve-O: are they doing Are they doing like a Lord of the Rings thing?
GREASEDAPOLES: Like, he's not up for directing.
AstroDev: Wait, he's not up for directing?
GREASEDAPOLES: I think take that, take Jacques Adour, the director of Mille Presol, put Denny on there. That's crazy. Crazy.
AstroDev: Chris, are you going to see that?
Steve-O: maybe Maybe they're doing like Return of the King where they just give them all the awards for the third movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: I guess, but the third movie is going to be pretty rough. He sticks to the butt guy. That's brutal. brutal Like, controversially bad shit.
Steve-O: You're not saying there's a scene where they all jump on a bed together at the end.
AstroDev: well
GREASEDAPOLES: I mean, that happens, but he also kills 4 .8 million people. So it's like, yeah, you get the bed scene, but you murder a bunch of people, you know?
Steve-O: do
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. Year wasn't wonderful for film. It's great. It's not the best year.
AstroDev: Well.
GREASEDAPOLES: um
Steve-O: name a better year for movies
AstroDev: 2023.
GREASEDAPOLES: ah
AstroDev: we don't have to yeah We don't have to go far.
GREASEDAPOLES: 2023.
GREASEDAPOLES: Um, I have some personal favorites. I think whatever year it was gone, baby gone, there will be blood. Um, and no country for old men were all up for contention for awards.
GREASEDAPOLES: They're all just powerhouse movies. I think if they would have came out in any other year, they would have been the best picture of that year. I just forget the year.
Steve-O: Yeah, that was I think it was 2008 or seven.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that sounds about right.
Steve-O: It was a killer's row of movies that year.
GREASEDAPOLES: Unbelievable. And like performances too. Like it's just, you get those every once in a while, right?
AstroDev: but Listen Listen, you know what? i You know what?
Steve-O: 2007.
AstroDev: I am happy to see I'm happy to see I i Like that Ariana Grande got nominated for actress and support.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: I think she was really good wicked I think she was like stand out really good Yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah. She sounds great in that too. The voice is amazing. Um, yeah, I really, I outside of Amelia Perez, I think most of these movies are really good.
AstroDev: ah
Steve-O: Dude, I'm still Demi got, Demi got an actress in the leading role.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, she did she might steal that too, cause nope.
eraserhead: Has she won an Oscar before?
AstroDev: No.
GREASEDAPOLES: Nope.
eraserhead: Not even four. What was that?
GREASEDAPOLES: I think she was nominated for, yeah, I think she was nominated.
eraserhead: A few good men. A few good men, maybe.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think she was nominated for strip tease too.
AstroDev: Chris. Oh, really?
eraserhead: Yo, let's go. The goonskirs?
AstroDev: Okay.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, no, that, you know, that might've been a razzie.
Steve-O: Razzie.
eraserhead: Chris, I think you're you're confusing the Oscars with the goonskirs.
Steve-O: And that lobster Thermador.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: She won a goonskir for that, but not an Oscar.
AstroDev: ah Chris, Chris, you're holding the you're holding the award. Who do you give cinematography to? Brutalist Dune or Nosferatu.
Steve-O: or you get to keep it.
AstroDev: Or yeah, you get to keep it, I guess.
GREASEDAPOLES: I can't say yet until I see the brutalist again.
AstroDev: All right. Well, Dune or Nosferatu.
GREASEDAPOLES: I give it to Nostra too.
AstroDev: Wow. Even though those guys fucking fly in the beginning of the movie, dude.
Steve-O: They fly in the beginning of the movie, Chris!
AstroDev: yes Chris, you're a fucking fake fan.
Steve-O: You, oh my god, that's my favorite movie!
AstroDev: That's Steve's favorite fucking movie. That's Steve's.
GREASEDAPOLES: any
AstroDev: And you didn't fucking like it?
GREASEDAPOLES: yeah ah
Steve-O: oh You know, you know what I did I I did watch a movie that this list just reminded me of I watched Wallace and Gromit vengeance most foul No No, it's not even my favorite Wallace and it's not even my favorite Wallace and Gromit movie It's here's the thing.
AstroDev: You know there's a worm in that movie?
AstroDev: Was it better than Dune?
GREASEDAPOLES: that
AstroDev: What the fuck are we even talking? Why are you bothering? Steve, why are you bothering me, huh?
Steve-O: Here's the thing. It is a sequel to one of my favorite my most favorite I will actually be definitive my most favorite Wallace and Gromit short and um It is I believe it is called ah the wrong trousers Yeah, and this movie is a sequel to that and you know, it's it's good.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, I love that. Yeah, that one's good. Oh really?
Steve-O: It's just it's definitely not the same vibe in my opinion Makes sense makes sense
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, their studio burned down, didn't it? Midway through making it or something.
AstroDev: Yo, give man, that's not exact that sucks that's the
GREASEDAPOLES: I think that happened. Maybe that was years ago. That could have been years ago. Anywho, on the docket of news that we have, enough of this fucking complete unknown screenplay by James Manigold and Jay Cox.
GREASEDAPOLES: Who cares?
Steve-O: Oh my god, the name's Cox?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that's personally assault. Daven, you just, Bukkaki this list with trailers.
AstroDev: A lot of trailers, a lot of trailers came out, yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: um Mickey 17 I did.
AstroDev: Did you see any of them?
AstroDev: I didn't like this trailer.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, it's not looking great.
AstroDev: It felt like they were trying to make it appeal to a wider audience. I was like, what is oh, this is an action movie?
GREASEDAPOLES: They pushed this movie back, so I'm kind of concerned that they don't know what they have.
Steve-O: What is this? Is this a baseball movie?
GREASEDAPOLES: This is the Cheng Bang.
eraserhead: It's a bomb, guys, it's a bomb.
AstroDev: It's the Bond movies, do you?
GREASEDAPOLES: um
Steve-O: Well, this is the Bong movie?
GREASEDAPOLES: You bong movie.
Steve-O: Oh, I'm not gonna lie. The name Mickey 17. I see the word Mickey. I see the number seven. I think Mickey Mantle.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, love that guy. No, I don't.
AstroDev: But OK, sure.
eraserhead: It's a bomb, right? It's going to be a banger, this one.
Steve-O: That is Bong. That is Bong.
AstroDev: I hope it's a bang. It's just this trailer it made it seem like, yeah, like to Chris's point, it may seem like Warner Brothers doesn't know how to market it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Bong and patty boy.
eraserhead: You know what?
GREASEDAPOLES: Now they really talk.
eraserhead: watch Watch the drive trailer again right now.
AstroDev: Oh, yes, terrible, terrible trailer.
eraserhead: Just watch right now.
Steve-O: I'm curious, watch Snowcursor's trailer and tell me if they sold that proper.
eraserhead: maybe Maybe they were...
eraserhead: Yeah, that's true.
AstroDev: But I want I want it to do well, though, you know, I don't want to just be good and have no one see it.
eraserhead: Well, maybe the trailer... Well, also, did you guys hear, I think, February 7th, they're re -releasing Parasite and IMAX?
Steve-O: No.
GREASEDAPOLES: Really?
eraserhead: So maybe that maybe maybe that that'll get the marketing grind gears grinding a little bit for Mickey 17, too.
Steve-O: Makes sense.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think they...
AstroDev: Sorry, I'll be watching Captain America.
eraserhead: Yeah, it's like the fifth. it's like the fifth They get stuff dude don't even get me star on that shit dude.
AstroDev: that
eraserhead: You got the fucking Zack Snyder You got the Zack Snyder brain rot posts like fucking fucking reverse glazing the the Superman shit but Captain America looks so bad like everything looks bad about that like the the special effects look horrible
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: Well, sounds like somebody just doesn't like the fact that he's not a white man anymore. OK, we're going to log that down.
Steve-O: Where do you write that down at?
AstroDev: Oh, I have notes.
eraserhead: I'm just like man man fantastic for trailers drop in Super Bowl right That's a lot of money that That's a lot of money to drop on some that people are already gonna be high for anyway, so I don't know maybe they don't Because like it's so much it's so much money right like isn't
Steve-O: Do you keep notes of the podcast?
AstroDev: Yeah, ah you don't.
Steve-O: How many years of notes do you have?
GREASEDAPOLES: You should see his whole studies filled the books.
AstroDev: I have books. Yeah, like I haven't studied.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's like seven.
AstroDev: Dude, you're fucking better, bro.
Steve-O: Oh, you know it is, you know it is.
AstroDev: Give it to me. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: Navy.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: I hate that, man.
Steve-O: It's a zillion dollars.
GREASEDAPOLES: Come out with your best movies, man.
eraserhead: Isn't it like a hundred, a hundred million dollars per minute or some shit to advertise during the Super Bowl or something like that?
GREASEDAPOLES: Probably.
Steve-O: I'm just saying, if you if you can't cough up the same amount that planners peanuts can cough up.
AstroDev: So it's probably like $5 million a minute.
eraserhead: Remember the Kanye.
GREASEDAPOLES: They have like five second commercials.
Steve-O: Yeah, but they're baby, man.
eraserhead: Remember when Kanye, remember when Kanye, bought the Kanye bought the Super Bowl ad and just posted a fucking Instagram video of whatever.
GREASEDAPOLES: and
AstroDev: Oh God.
eraserhead: Let me see a Super Bowl ad cost.
GREASEDAPOLES: Remember that?
eraserhead: of six and a half to $7 million dollars for 30 seconds.
GREASEDAPOLES: My favorite Super Bowl ad was that cryptocurrency that Larry David was pushing, and then it came out that there was a scam.
Steve-O: Oh.
GREASEDAPOLES: They had to give all their money back. That's great. It was like within six months of that commercial error.
AstroDev: I remember last year when somebody convinced RFK junior to put one out for his, his presidency run. It was like, why, who convinced them to do that? It's a lot of fucking money, dude.
GREASEDAPOLES: Idiot. Somebody probably making money off of it guys want to hear you guys want to hear
AstroDev: Yeah, probably. Uh, yeah. Well, there are some other trailers. Hello summer, which is, uh, directed by Finn Wolfhard, which I, it's
Steve-O: Bro, get out of here with your fucking 80s ass shit, man.
eraserhead: Stranger thanks.
Steve-O: Look at this text. Look at this style. All he knows is the 80s. This kid's got 80s brain, right?
AstroDev: But think it takes place.
Steve-O: He wasn't even born in the same decade.
AstroDev: It takes place modern day.
eraserhead: Did you guys watch? Did you guys watch?
Steve-O: I haven't clicked the button.
eraserhead: I saw the TV glow.
Steve-O: I haven't clicked the button.
eraserhead: I saw the TV glow.
AstroDev: I did.
eraserhead: Did you guys watch that?
AstroDev: I did.
eraserhead: Is it as base as everybody's saying online or it's not that good?
AstroDev: It's not for me. It's not for me.
GREASEDAPOLES: Guys, guys, do you want to hear some juicy rumors?
AstroDev: I just say that.
Steve-O: I want to hear a juicy rumor.
AstroDev: Give me a juice, boy.
GREASEDAPOLES: You want to hear some juicy rumors?
AstroDev: hey Can we back it up a second just real quick?
GREASEDAPOLES: OK, I got some good for you. Apparently, apparently there was a cast of a young cast of a TV, a very famous show that does not does not get along with one another whatsoever.
AstroDev: but
eraserhead: Stranger Thanks.
AstroDev: Dude.
eraserhead: Cobra Kai.
GREASEDAPOLES: Constantly fighting with one another where the lead star has said before I am the star of the show I shouldn't have to do this multiple times That's what I read and they didn't give any names is all rumors, but man They said it was a the one of the biggest TV shows out there's It's got a be straight and it's young cast they don't they hate each other that's the other thing
AstroDev: One tree hill. One tree hill.
eraserhead: Millie Bobby Brown said that.
Steve-O: Thank you.
AstroDev: Wait, you're saying they were all fighting?
eraserhead: It's a TV show. It's a Netflix TV show?
AstroDev: Severance.
Steve-O: it's It's got to be stranger things.
AstroDev: Come on, don't do that.
Steve-O: It has to be.
eraserhead: So who's the star then? Well, I thought they were all friends. And they're all crying at the read alongs and shit.
GREASEDAPOLES: they actors John it's all rumor it's there's there's no evidence there's nothing yes they said a young cast they said it was a young cast though they really
Steve-O: You telling me we were sold a bad bowl of goods?
AstroDev: ah have you Have you seen Millie Bobby Brown's last movie?
eraserhead: I'm not. You know, I'm going to be.
AstroDev: Come on, actor.
eraserhead: Yeah, I'm not going to be. I'm not.
AstroDev: That was rude.
eraserhead: I'm not going to think. I'm not going to think it's them.
AstroDev: That's rude. I apologize.
eraserhead: Why it might not be. It might not even be strange things. It could be something else.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: Right. It could be the white lotus for all we know.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: Dude, it's the cast.
AstroDev: But. Yeah. But John, I would recommend you to watch. I saw the TV glow because I'm curious to see your opinion because it's.
eraserhead: It seemed interesting. The premise seemed interesting.
AstroDev: to All right. My issue with I talked about a few weeks ago but or months ago, but my issue with it was like it was like watching a movie that never gets out of like second year, really first year, frankly.
AstroDev: Uh, and that's kind of the point, but it also was still something I didn't really enjoy. But also there's a lot of people saying, and this is probably lazy.
AstroDev: It's a lazy critique of people that didn't like it, but there's a lot of people that just said, well, it's not made for you. And I'm like, okay, cool.
eraserhead: Okay, interesting.
GREASEDAPOLES: stuff for your eyes, Devin.
AstroDev: But yeah, it's, it's, you know, Oh, straight straight ah white male. Yeah, this is not for you. Sorry. And I was like, OK.
GREASEDAPOLES: Avert your eyes.
AstroDev: I still thought it was like frustrating to watch, but OK, cool. Sorry. So honestly, I it's not like it was terrible either. It's just like I very curious to see what anyone else would think of it.
GREASEDAPOLES: And it's on HBO Max. I always see it there.
AstroDev: Yeah, that's kind of what happened. I was like one night I was like, fuck it. And then ah because it's. because it's very Buffy coded like extreme.
eraserhead: Mm.
AstroDev: It's basically these these kids that.
eraserhead: Like there's a hell mouth.
AstroDev: Yeah, dude, it's but it's like the show that they're obsessed with in the movie is Buffy in all but name.
eraserhead: OK.
AstroDev: But then, you know, and it goes, it goes and and you're like, it's really cool. And then it just never never fucking gets there for me or got there from. um But yeah, so a hell of a summer directed by Finn Wolfhard.
AstroDev: I know the bus seems decent according to the trailer. It's an eon, which is not.
GREASEDAPOLES: Neon.
Steve-O: Neeeong!
AstroDev: You know, it's it's not a twenty four, but you kind my ears perk up. And then.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, ne Neon makes some hitters.
AstroDev: Yeah, and then ah there's this trailer.
eraserhead: Is an 824 on like a downslide right now?
AstroDev: Do they paint on a downsize?
eraserhead: like aren't they like They literally have a movie coming out about a fucking sea buoy that falls in love with the satellite, so.
GREASEDAPOLES: They apparently are having a hard time marketing and pushing for awards for their movies.
AstroDev: Thank you.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think they're getting a lot of heat for how they're marketing
eraserhead: Which I do want to watch, I do want to watch that movie, by the way.
GREASEDAPOLES: like the Brutalist, a different man, apparently a different man was really good and that they didn't push it for awards at all.
AstroDev: Yeah, I just You know what that life because it seemed like all their marketing went in the Civil War that movie Yeah Probably
eraserhead: is it Is it everything that happened after Civil War? Is is everything everything's been on the downswing? Is that? was
GREASEDAPOLES: It was the most expensive film to date. So, and I think, I felt they made their money back on that though, to be honest.
eraserhead: Probably, I mean, it was pretty popular, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, it was.
eraserhead: I'm looking at I'm looking at their chronological hits here.
AstroDev: That's a movie that people go like, Oh, it's too intense for me. And I'm like, you need to see more movies, dude.
eraserhead: That's what a lot of people say.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, it's not that.
AstroDev: It's not at all.
eraserhead: Yo, you need to watch Blue Velvet, bro. Like, that's where you guys are telling people.
AstroDev: yeah You need to watch blue Allen. Get a boner.
eraserhead: Wait, when did um. OK, so. I'll cut gems was was 2019 and then. These are all pretty good Green Knight 2021.
AstroDev: well Shaky.
eraserhead: Blah, blah, blah, tragedy of Macbeth 2021.
AstroDev: No one saw that.
eraserhead: um
GREASEDAPOLES: I saw that.
eraserhead: but but but but but but um After sign I heard was really good that was 2022 Fuck dude all mezcal Past lives past lives 2023.
AstroDev: I did hear good things.
AstroDev: That's uh, what's his name, right? That's, that's, that's Oz, Oz Cobblepot. Cobblepot.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh shit.
Steve-O: I was a cobblepaw.
GREASEDAPOLES: Fuck. I forgot. I watched Gladiator 2.
Steve-O: You still a gladiator too?
eraserhead: Wow, you really you really forgot about it Is that how bad it was you forgot about things
AstroDev: I saw Gladiator.
GREASEDAPOLES: I did.
AstroDev: Oh, oh, this week you saw this week.
GREASEDAPOLES: I did. Yeah, it wasn't very good. I'll tell you that much.
eraserhead: Was Denzil at least good?
AstroDev: That's always good, Chris.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's, he was okay.
AstroDev: Don't, don't do, don't do them like that. Come on.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's okay.
eraserhead: What's better, Devin? Gladiator 2 or Training Day? It's a better movie.
AstroDev: Oh, come on trainee day.
GREASEDAPOLES: Training days is way better than me.
AstroDev: Easily do easy.
eraserhead: All right.
AstroDev: It's like, that's coughing baby hydrogen bomb. You just gave me, dude.
eraserhead: That's Joel versus Leon Kennedy.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: i I'm not impressed by I was not impressed by Paul Muskell at one Iota Equalizer I'm gonna tell you something in that movie
eraserhead: um
AstroDev: No, dude. I, again, I, Chris, wait real quick.
eraserhead: Well, OK, gladiator two or equalizer, gladiator two or equalizer.
AstroDev: that whole movie i owen
AstroDev: whoa
eraserhead: Gladiator two or equalizer two.
AstroDev: I've never seen any equalizer.
eraserhead: That's the one with Pedro Pascal, right?
AstroDev: I've never seen them.
eraserhead: Equalizer two.
GREASEDAPOLES: is one of the laziest directed movies I've seen in a long time.
AstroDev: Yeah, dude, dude, that whole movie is just then talking about how they're just glazing fucking Russell Crowe's character.
eraserhead: a
GREASEDAPOLES: I think for one set up in one scene, there must've been 30 cameras. I swear, I think he just shoots one scene once. He just like, oh, I got all the coverage I need, because I got all the cameras set up everywhere.
AstroDev: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: It's just lazy, easy lazy, direction.
eraserhead: Wait, fucking ah Joseph Quinn was in gladiator to.
AstroDev: Yeah Yeah, good fun Yeah,
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, it's all right.
eraserhead: The kid from Stranger Things.
eraserhead: us ah Johnny Storm, right? He's Johnny Storm, right?
AstroDev: yeah, yeah, he's got a storm, you know, Chris is fucking it Chris is on a hate quest right now each side each side
GREASEDAPOLES: it a I think Ridley Scott's getting lazy.
Steve-O: You talk about Eddie.
Steve-O: He, I think he is too.
GREASEDAPOLES: He's getting lazy.
Steve-O: I agree.
AstroDev: Yeah, yeah, it's called permeate. Yeah, it happened during Prometheus. This is not a fucking shocker to anybody.
GREASEDAPOLES: I whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
AstroDev: I understand. I do not understand how people are blown away by this.
eraserhead: I tried so hard to like for me this.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think the Martians did fine movie. Like he didn't,
AstroDev: Martian rules. I'm sorry.
GREASEDAPOLES: Didn't fuck that up. it I think after that, after he won, he won Academy Award for that. That didn't that win Best Picture.
eraserhead: That's the Matt Damon movie based on a book.
AstroDev: Now, it won best comedy in the Golden Globe. I know that.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, but anyway.
eraserhead: That's that's the book movie with um what's just it's Matt Damon.
AstroDev: oh Yeah.
Steve-O: Chris, that movie is 10 years old.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's been 10 years. He's giving up, man. He's done.
eraserhead: Wait, is he is is he going to do the other the the other mar not the Martian two, but like ah martian the than the other book that that guy wrote?
GREASEDAPOLES: oh But the Hail Mary Project Hail Mary That book is fucking That book is so great and you could fuck it up Fuck it up so easily too because it's literally a talking rock alien if you don't do that, right?
eraserhead: The Hail Mary Project Hail Mary.
AstroDev: I don't think so. He's got he's got a you should be dancing word of freedom
eraserhead: Cuz that that concept I read I didn't read that book but the synopsis is the synopsis is awesome of that book But I don't read but I don't read books Chris. I don't read books Project Hail Mary.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh It's gonna be bad
eraserhead: Oh man, it's wait slave for 2026 bro. Oh, it's the Lord dude fucking Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are doing this
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, well, okay. I'm, I feel fine about that. but yeah Back in baby.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: Okay, you're back in.
Steve-O: You back in?
AstroDev: Actually, you know what?
GREASEDAPOLES: That book is great.
AstroDev: Let me, let me, let me calm down a little bit.
GREASEDAPOLES: It's really great.
eraserhead: Oh man, Ryan Gosling is gonna be the guy.
AstroDev: I'll really Scott.
eraserhead: He's gonna be the bro.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
eraserhead: And they got the hot T -Mobile girl, or AT &T girl.
GREASEDAPOLES: There's really no one else besides that rock thing in it.
eraserhead: What the hell is her name?
GREASEDAPOLES: It'll be interesting. Let's say it's roll the dice.
AstroDev: All right.
eraserhead: Wait, is this why Spider -Verse isn't coming out ever?
AstroDev: Let me.
eraserhead: Because they're working on this movie.
AstroDev: Probably probably. Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: probably
AstroDev: Wait, let me let me resend some of my I was freaking out for these guys.
eraserhead: Scorching takes.
AstroDev: I actually like the last tool. I think that's a good movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: I haven't seen that I haven't watched it.
AstroDev: ah It's it's solid.
eraserhead: That's the one with ah Adam, so Adam Driver, Adam Scott, Adam Driver, right?
GREASEDAPOLES: I've watched Napoleon. I've watched tell you I I don't need to see anything else to know that he just doesn't care about making movies anymore.
AstroDev: Adam, Adam. Yeah, yeah, Adam Driver and.
eraserhead: That was 824.
AstroDev: No.
GREASEDAPOLES: I Doesn't have the fire, man. Sad, sort of, but he he made fucking Blade Runner and the original Gladiator. Guy's solid gold in my mind.
AstroDev: Yeah. Fucking totally forgot you. So glad he it it's funny.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, that one slipped the mind.
AstroDev: and Yeah. ah Let's see what else. Steve, who is Zach Krager?
Steve-O: Yo.
GREASEDAPOLES: Director of Barbarians.
AstroDev: Because he's.
Steve-O: Yes, the director of Barbarian.
AstroDev: That's who it is. OK, so he's doing the Resident Evil reboot.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hell yeah.
eraserhead: ah Companion ah what are they gonna learn? It's just not gonna be ever good in a movie as a movie, right?
Steve-O: Oh, but Barbarian is good.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah, dude.
AstroDev: Barbarians good.
GREASEDAPOLES: he you got you got You got a good one.
eraserhead: I See you got you guys think that's this gonna be a good movie you're on board If he can't do it
Steve-O: I'm definitely confused, but ah Barbarian was good.
GREASEDAPOLES: Mm -hmm.
AstroDev: I'm saying if he can't, if this guy doesn't do it, you they probably should just put, they just stop to stop it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Barbarian is a level of creepy, especially with creature design, that I feel like if he got to do Resident Evil, he would nail it. He would nail it.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: I mean, Barbarian is like very much kind of like looking at Lisa from the first Resident Evil movie, or first Resident Evil game, I should say, the remake.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, yeah.
AstroDev: John, you should see barbarian.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think that
AstroDev: That's very good.
eraserhead: yes it's yeah i did i do that is on my list
AstroDev: Yeah. There are rules.
Steve-O: it's It's awesome, that's an awesome movie. And it's got that guy who could put his eyes in different places on his head.
AstroDev: yeah
AstroDev: ah Yeah. All right.
GREASEDAPOLES: You know, it's gonna be fun with that weird eye guy. You know, it's gonna be a good time.
Steve-O: Weird Ayankovic, isn't that his name?
GREASEDAPOLES: That's how you should market movies with that guy from now on. He's got the weird eye guy.
Steve-O: They're going everywhere.
GREASEDAPOLES: Come on, man. That guy's great.
AstroDev: Yeah. So what's interesting about this story too, is like he's, he's attached to it. And now studios are bidding for this movie.
GREASEDAPOLES: Mmm.
Steve-O: It's because of the video game heat. Everybody wants The Last of Us.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: Everybody wants Fallout.
AstroDev: i And they got a good fucking direct. Yeah. They got a quality guy on it. You know, if this was fucking Miller, Djokovic again, maybe like, I don't, I don't know. Here's $50.
eraserhead: Paul Anderson or Paul is it Paul Thomas?
AstroDev: Yeah. Paul Anderson was on it.
Steve-O: Well, WS.
GREASEDAPOLES: Paul W .S. Anderson.
eraserhead: It's God, why are there so many Anderson's?
GREASEDAPOLES: He's the bad Paul Anderson.
AstroDev: Yeah.
Steve-O: Because come on, man, you send the Matrix.
AstroDev: i'm badass you're good way
eraserhead: So are they are they doing the Resident Evil one? Is that the movie they're making?
GREASEDAPOLES: and were
AstroDev: i don't know I mean, did I don't even think there's a script like he was just Yeah, and and yeah studios are just so we're not gonna see this for a minute Yeah, I've been hearing good things about companion people he produced that right I don't think he directed that
Steve-O: No idea. They put his name next to Resident Evil and people are bidding.
GREASEDAPOLES: I think i I've been hearing compassion good buzz about companion. So that's probably why. No, I think he did direct that.
AstroDev: Uh, let me see let's google it that's one Oh shit did ai write that fucking statement jesus
GREASEDAPOLES: I think.
eraserhead: All right, so the the producers of the producers of this Resident Evil movie did John McChapter four, Zack Snyder's army of the dead. So I don't know.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, you're right.
Steve-O: Krager's take is described by sources as a revamp that will take the title back to its horror roots and be more faithful to the initial games.
GREASEDAPOLES: He didn't.
eraserhead: Well, the horror movie has, dude, hold on a second, bro.
Steve-O: Probably.
eraserhead: They already got it. I don't know. Never mind. This is a different movie. Weapons with Josh Brolin and Julia Gardner. I was like, these guys are going to be in Resident Evil, but it's not.
eraserhead: Interesting. man Capcom is really really doubling down, man.
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: Hey.
GREASEDAPOLES: You can't pick a better, this is a good pick.
AstroDev: Yeah.
eraserhead: This is it.
AstroDev: Yeah, what's the more good news?
GREASEDAPOLES: This is a good pick.
eraserhead: This is the one.
AstroDev: What's the more good news?
GREASEDAPOLES: Yeah.
AstroDev: Toxic Avenger finally coming out.
GREASEDAPOLES: Woo!
AstroDev: It got it got a distributor house behind the Terrifier movies.
Steve-O: Hoxie!
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, of
AstroDev: So an apparent like, what when were they? They're like, this movie's so bad it cannot be. I don't fucking believe that for. Is it great? Probably not. Is it bad?
GREASEDAPOLES: was having a hard It was having a hard time getting distributors.
AstroDev: Maybe. But like, dude, really? Like of the shit that gets fucking.
GREASEDAPOLES: You'd be surprised.
AstroDev: The shit that gets thrown out like toxic invasion couldn't make it.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, that's why I'm curious. That's what I'm curious.
AstroDev: I know, I know. this I'm not saying it's even good, but like, was it that bad? Guess we'll find out.
GREASEDAPOLES: We'll see.
AstroDev: Guess.
GREASEDAPOLES: We'll see.
AstroDev: Ah, let's see. It's bad news. It's bad news. Ubisoft doing super well.
GREASEDAPOLES: Batty betty news He made a bad he made really begging
AstroDev: They closed the studio. 185 jobs lost. Sucks to hear.
Steve-O: That sucks.
AstroDev: Yeah, just bad. Bad news. ah Slightly good news, depending on how you feel. Warner Brothers video game president David Hadad stepping down after 12 years.
AstroDev: Probably good news, considering.
Steve-O: You made
AstroDev: ah Yeah, he made it.
Steve-O: a few.
AstroDev: It was just him, dude. is ah Yeah, and I think that's what else? Yeah, Phantom Blade Zero trailer show the combat looks good. But no release date just looks looks like a neat old game.
AstroDev: Kung Fu punk, they call it Steve.
Steve-O: I call it you Kung Fu punk, you know that?
GREASEDAPOLES: You kung fu punk?
AstroDev: You know, what the fuck is you?
Steve-O: No, I call it you Devin Kung Fu punk.
AstroDev: Oh, Kung Fu Punk?
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh yeah, fuck you Devin.
AstroDev: That's what I call my alternate CM Punk character in WWE 2K26.
Steve-O: yeah ah two k ah 2K25 just got announced tonight, by the way.
AstroDev: Oh, oh, fuck.
Steve-O: You know who's on the cover?
AstroDev: Oh, wait, wait, let me guess.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, Drew Rasman.
AstroDev: Let me guess.
AstroDev: No, wait, it's going to be Seth Rollins, who is it?
GREASEDAPOLES: I made that up.
Steve-O: You were close. Nope, nope, nope, sorry.
AstroDev: Fuck.
Steve-O: It's Roman Reigns.
AstroDev: Oh, my God.
GREASEDAPOLES: Got the R right.
AstroDev: That's stupid. fact Who cares? Good for him.
Steve-O: Good for him.
GREASEDAPOLES: Good for him.
AstroDev: You know.
Steve-O: But Drew McIntyre did come out, Chris, and yelled him. So.
GREASEDAPOLES: Hey, I was close, Drew Rasman.
AstroDev: Steve, are you like, are you like in because of the Netflix era?
Steve-O: I've been watching the Netflix.
AstroDev: Is this what?
Steve-O: The Netflix makes it real easy. And it also, when you go and watch it later, it skips the commercials for you.
AstroDev: You know, the rumble, the rumbles up, right? Coming up.
Steve-O: It's coming soon.
AstroDev: Well, rumble.
eraserhead: Where's it at this year?
Steve-O: Uh, I believe it's in New Orleans. No, Indianapolis.
AstroDev: That's the Superbowl.
Steve-O: Yes, if Super Bowls is the big game.
AstroDev: Superbowl's in New Orleans. Yo man.
GREASEDAPOLES: have been the same place.
eraserhead: now Nowlands.
AstroDev: Yo, by the way, by the way, guys, go birds.
eraserhead: Nowlands.
GREASEDAPOLES: Turn New Orleans down.
Steve-O: Go by words.
AstroDev: Head and to the Superbowl.
GREASEDAPOLES: Come here! Come here!
AstroDev: Sorry. Sorry.
GREASEDAPOLES: Say qua, baby.
AstroDev: Take one baby. You know what's funny?
GREASEDAPOLES: Bringing us to the bowl game.
AstroDev: I was that guy and I could start as, cause I don't, I've never watched hard knocks, but I just started YouTubing clips.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh, do you watch that?
AstroDev: That was a giant sucker. And I was like, oh, there's still no dummies.
GREASEDAPOLES: Devin, Devin, let me tell you something right now, buddy. That is my, that's my life blood.
AstroDev: Yeah.
GREASEDAPOLES: All right.
AstroDev: You just like, you have a bad day.
GREASEDAPOLES: That's what keeps, I roll up a Mara sitting in his GM's office and we lose, we lose a quam.
AstroDev: Fire up some of those clips.
GREASEDAPOLES: I'm just not going to be able to sleep. Well, night I just play that every once in a while.
AstroDev: Yeah. But like, you know, I don't always stand though. He's the owner, and he says that to his GM. And I understand he's like, I hired you to make these decisions. But his GM clearly fucks up, and he's just like, well, here's another job.
AstroDev: And it's like, bro.
GREASEDAPOLES: Well, he was, he was looking at his phone to see if he, something would save him.
AstroDev: but I'm just saying, that's when you fire him. That's when you fire him. You're the owner. You're his boss.
GREASEDAPOLES: dev you know muff footballer and but you You clearly know enough.
AstroDev: I guess not, dude. You you football neophyte.
GREASEDAPOLES: Now you clearly know enough to know that he shouldn't be there. Obviously. Um, yeah, they just, um, they feel,
AstroDev: We treat that guy yeah They treat him like shit and they go go to the open market and just promise us you'll you'll come back to us So he managed it and he's like no, dude Yeah,
GREASEDAPOLES: Usually when when it comes to GMs, if they make a bad move, they give them like a year to see if they can cobble something together. That's usually what I see in my experience.
GREASEDAPOLES: And then they fire the head coach and the GM that year, like everybody goes, like they, yeah like, you guys got one more year.
AstroDev: yeah
GREASEDAPOLES: If you can't fucking pull something together, you can't get Sador, whatever that kid's name is that's coming out of college, that great quarterback, you're fucked, you're fired.
AstroDev: Yeah, well, why would they right and then they got 40 million guys anyway, I'm not trying to make the football podcast I'm just saying We're Philly boys and the Eagles are going to the but birds.
Steve-O: Go birds.
AstroDev: Oh Super Bowl party in my house.
GREASEDAPOLES: baby Grease them holes baby go birds.
AstroDev: Good words I'd say uber uber or show up with a friend Those streets are gonna be nasty.
Steve-O: Go birds.
GREASEDAPOLES: Oh boy Keep it tidy you keep it safe
Steve-O: Oh, those streets are going to be running white green.
AstroDev: Yeah We're gonna green with poop.
Steve-O: Bird poop.
AstroDev: With bird.
Steve-O: All right, we will be back next week, ah but until then, grease your
AstroDev: ah
AstroDev: E -L -G -L -E -S. Right? According to our mayor.
Steve-O: oh
GREASEDAPOLES: E -L -G -E -S.
Steve-O: Uff!
GREASEDAPOLES: Go Eagles.
eraserhead: Biggles!
Steve-O: Eggles!
GREASEDAPOLES: Go Eagles.
AstroDev: Beggos! Sharky's Beggos!
GREASEDAPOLES: Go Eagles.
