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Introduction of Hosts
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AstroDev
Hello, you are listening to the all new anti fanboy podcast for the week of January twenty seven twenty twenty five. Oh, me. Oh, my. How are you all doing? It's another week, but we're done with the anti fan and anti fan is in the can. And now we're just ready to start the news proper. How are you doing, everybody? As always, it's me, Devin Kopek with me, Steve Otiri.
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Steve-O
Currently and temporarily.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Ew, what?
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AstroDev
Christopher Kalanti And that guy that tweeted I'm glad David Lynch died John Suarez I Don't know why you said that dude but I Don't know why I always pick on John on these Yeah, I said the man who made this I
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I'm doing all right, Devin. That's what I'm asking.
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Steve-O
Ooh.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Woo, hot take.
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eraserhead
Oh, man.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hot take Suarez.
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Steve-O
Ooh.
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eraserhead
Ooh.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Sizzling hot take Suarez.
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eraserhead
Scorch and hot take.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Eraser it may be hard. That's scorching hot Suarez right there.
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eraserhead
You guys did it. You guys did it. You guys trying to goon a razor head later on a discord chat.
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Steve-O
Goon racer head That was a good joke that was a really good joke
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eraserhead
can We can do it.
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AstroDev
Dude, goon, but not forgotten.
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eraserhead
Oh, God. Don't do that. Don't tell me that.
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AstroDev
Oh, boy.
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GREASEDAPOLES
oh
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AstroDev
Anyway, how you how's everyone? How's everyone doing?
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GREASEDAPOLES
Much better after that joke. Thank you, Doug.
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AstroDev
Oh, you're well. I can't I can't take full credit. I stole it from a sign. That some guy brought to a goon meetup on a Reddit that I saw.
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Steve-O
A sign? Oh.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh shit. You're going to those?
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eraserhead
Memorial, yeah, it was a memorial.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I didn't see you there.
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AstroDev
ah
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GREASEDAPOLES
I,
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AstroDev
No, it was a memorial for the the goon guy in the car And literally somebody had a sign that said But yeah, but somebody brought us they okay
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eraserhead
No, ah don't mention them. You said.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, no that guy did John told me that story Jesus right Steve Steve knows I guess
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eraserhead
You're not forgotten.
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Steve-O
I don't know about this story.
Viral Drive-Thru Incident
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GREASEDAPOLES
oh shit fitting
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Steve-O
I don't know about this story.
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eraserhead
right, so all right, so the story is there's this guy that went viral because this woman that was working drive through at a coffee shop. This fucking music god damn it the girl was videotaping she's videotaping this guy that pulled up and he had no pants on and I guess he was like jerking off or getting ready to jerk off for some reason and It went viral and then he ended up killing himself Stop playing the music.
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eraserhead
It's actually kind of a horrible gruesome gruesome story It's a gruesome story
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GREASEDAPOLES
Well, I think you can just fine bustle me worse.
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AstroDev
ah yes ze yeah he
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eraserhead
So, yeah, so like it's been it's been mean to death on on on the timelines.
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AstroDev
So yeah goon meetup
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eraserhead
But um Devin, I guess, found out that they a bunch of people went to the coffee shop like after it closed to have a memorial service for him, like all other, quote, ah quote, gooners like when.
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AstroDev
And some guy brought a sign that said goon, but not forgotten.
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eraserhead
Well, are they trolling?
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GREASEDAPOLES
ah
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AstroDev
Cause the cops showed up, the cops showed up and broke it up.
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eraserhead
But there were like 100 people there like. Moment of silence.
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GREASEDAPOLES
That I don't know what that is I Will be prepared to shoot you gooners in the deck I That is really sad and I don't know when does trolling turn into mourning
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AstroDev
Yeah, dude.
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Steve-O
It was just one cop, it was RoboCop in that one scene. Were all the guys with no pants for running in?
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Steve-O
man and and and la la la la la la
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GREASEDAPOLES
That's really the question that this is, if it is morning. I don't know, man. that's This is weird. It's weird. That's very weird.
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AstroDev
Well, I think it's not as bad as that Superman CG. Am I right, fellas?
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, come on, dude.
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Steve-O
Ohhhhhh...
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AstroDev
Come on.
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eraserhead
People keep throwing a dragon.
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GREASEDAPOLES
All right, guys.
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AstroDev
Up top, up top, up top.
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eraserhead
That's so weird, dude.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Kevin, if I could fly at the speed of light, but my eye just slid a little bit to the left when I did it, would it still not be the coolest thing in the world?
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AstroDev
but but
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AstroDev
I mean, yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, exactly.
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AstroDev
feel
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GREASEDAPOLES
It would, wouldn't it?
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AstroDev
It looks cool. Yeah, it looks cool. I don't know. I agree with John. It's a relax.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
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AstroDev
We're getting, you know, it's just, you know, taters being haters.
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Steve-O
Is this Sonic all over again? Are people being doing...
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AstroDev
No, no, because Sonic, I would still argue to this day that there was a case there and then they made the right decision.
Superman Teaser Discussion
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Steve-O
Okay, okay, this is just the the Snyder...
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AstroDev
This is a Steve. Do you know what we're talking about? You know what we're talking about?
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Steve-O
Nah, I don't know about this.
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AstroDev
The Superman. There's a basically like the Superman teaser came out like a new Superman teaser.
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Steve-O
Is this sort of the... Hold on.
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GREASEDAPOLES
ya ah Yeah,
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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AstroDev
And the very, there was like a little bit of new footage at the very last second. And it's him flying and people are critiquing it.
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AstroDev
And Steve, you should in your, you know, just when he got a minute, just look it up and tell us how how terrible it is and how it how it broke the internet because it's so bad.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Devon, didn't you didn' you post it in something?
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AstroDev
I thought I did. I think I just.
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Steve-O
Wait, are we talking about him just flying in the like the snow ice part?
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AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, and he spins.
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GREASEDAPOLES
i think Oh wait, you texted it to me, that's right.
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AstroDev
He does a little spin. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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eraserhead
Yeah, there's and there was a new teaser. I texted it to you guys.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hold on, let me get the image.
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Steve-O
I don't know.
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eraserhead
But now like it's making the rounds on the internet, and there are people like fucking freaking out saying it looks really bad.
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Steve-O
I'm not really.
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Steve-O
I'm not catching any of this.
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eraserhead
but
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AstroDev
You're not, not, actually.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hold on, Steve, I got you, I got you.
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Steve-O
but No, I'm like, i I'm watching the scene right now.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, I know, it's it's one of the, I think if you freeze frame, you see it.
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eraserhead
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
But here you go, bud, this is is what we're talking about.
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Steve-O
Oh, we talk about when he does his little barrel roll and he gets pink eye in the one eye?
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AstroDev
Yeah, well, that's what everybody's upset about.
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eraserhead
yeah
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, look at like the chat talk if you will.
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AstroDev
a
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GREASEDAPOLES
Just real quick, take a look.
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AstroDev
Yeah, it's with the Internet.
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GREASEDAPOLES
That's what I'm talking about.
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AstroDev
And, you know, there was a post said Superman, more like Stupid Man, and that's when they posted and I laughed. So that that.
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eraserhead
It's literally like a frame, like one frame.
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GREASEDAPOLES
It is very silly.
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eraserhead
They call it his eye.
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AstroDev
Steve, you got to turn this fucking music off and it's killing me.
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Steve-O
but
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AstroDev
Yeah, God.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I don't...
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Steve-O
I forgot I was playing.
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GREASEDAPOLES
i I mean, the mustache is is way worse, the CGI mustache.
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AstroDev
Oh my God. Yeah. It's like, yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
so
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AstroDev
Yeah. Dude. Talk about a glass house. Those Snyder people, dude.
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eraserhead
Well, James Gunn said, like, because a lot of people were claiming that ah the CGI And the AI looks really bad or something. People just claim AI for everything.
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AstroDev
GG. I get it. Yeah.
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eraserhead
But um but James Gunn said that there was no CGI for that scene at all.
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Steve-O
Pretty good.
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AstroDev
No, dude. I think that's literally him on a rig.
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GREASEDAPOLES
But him flying?
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AstroDev
I think that's him on like a rig.
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eraserhead
Yeah. And there's a drone that's filming it or whatever, like or a camera film filming them and whatever.
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AstroDev
there Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, whoa.
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Steve-O
You know that that's just that actor's nightmare. That someone caught his like one eye that is off a little bit.
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AstroDev
Oh my God, dude.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Drifting slightly.
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Steve-O
Yeah. It was like, that's the thing. Every time I take a photo, I always like, that's when I look at it and I noticed that my one eye is slightly a little bit higher than my other eye.
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AstroDev
Yeah, yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh You got a yeah, I mean no wait
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Steve-O
Not that lazy.
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AstroDev
ah It's a drowsy eye.
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Steve-O
It just like ah set up a little bit. It was like somebody went into my sliders and like clicked it like five up.
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AstroDev
Is it sleepy eye? Yeah, you got drowsy eye.
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Steve-O
He's got the Columbo thing going.
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eraserhead
I think it looks I think it looks really good. I think the shot looks really good.
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Steve-O
I think the shot looks great.
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eraserhead
I don't know why people are freak out I Don't know.
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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Steve-O
It's a great shot.
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eraserhead
I don't know why people freak it out No, but it's it's what it is is this it's the Snyder it's the Snyder guys that are Snyder guys are slowing it down to fucking one frame a second so they could find shit that's wrong with it That's the problem
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Steve-O
If you didn't tell me about this, I would have lived my life happily.
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, Peter Falk had a fake eye, though.
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AstroDev
Well.
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Steve-O
he might He might have a fake eye.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Who might? That's true.
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AstroDev
Yeah. And they're saying, look how bad this looks. Yeah. And yeah. And again, what we're talking about is, uh, somebody's people on the internet slowed the frame by frame and found a shot of his eyes looking askew.
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AstroDev
And, um, you know what?
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Steve-O
but
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AstroDev
We're all, the internet's making fun of it now.
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GREASEDAPOLES
you know You know, people pay for that. That id actor, he can do that on command.
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Steve-O
He can he really can he's wonderful He's a Nosferatu now Devin that's a big deal
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AstroDev
People pay for that.
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GREASEDAPOLES
You can't do millions of dollars, Devin.
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AstroDev
Yo, what are you is agent, Chris, like, Hey, don't feel bad. People, some people wish they could do that.
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GREASEDAPOLES
You could be a creepy, weird clown man.
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AstroDev
yeah
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, his eye drifts all the time.
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AstroDev
yeah you yeah You want to be a Nosferatu. You keep up that weird. I think you more years.
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GREASEDAPOLES
You guys didn't see it. His eye literally drifted all the way away.
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AstroDev
Boom.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Like it was just the white in one scene.
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
It just happens. He can't control it. which is awesome for an actor to have that ability.
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Steve-O
just let I mean Undertaker can do that.
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AstroDev
yeah and um You know, you know who could do that permanently?
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GREASEDAPOLES
Kenny?
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Steve-O
Both eyes.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Kenny, really?
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AstroDev
Sean Michaels.
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GREASEDAPOLES
What?
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Steve-O
Oh yeah, well that's the thing.
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AstroDev
Yeah, pain drops him on his head.
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Steve-O
He got hit by Kane, yeah.
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AstroDev
Yeah. Can't hit him with the head.
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Steve-O
And then he got the lazy eye kind of going in the one eye.
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GREASEDAPOLES
This is really true.
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Steve-O
That's a true story, that's not a joke.
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AstroDev
It's a joke, Chris. I'm laughing.
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Steve-O
She doesn't respect.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I'm sorry. Sorry, sorry, he's sorry.
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Steve-O
Dude, do you even know Kane's backstory?
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AstroDev
Pain hit him.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Does he ever a fucked up by two?
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AstroDev
Yeah, he's he's a piece of shit human being in real life. That's Cain's back.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
What's wrong with his eyes? What's wrong with his eyes?
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Steve-O
They got burned by the Undertaker, his brother!
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AstroDev
Oh.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hey, listen, all I'm saying.
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Steve-O
He also carries a hook around and...
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GREASEDAPOLES
Wear it like armor.
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Steve-O
I think I might be factoring the movie in, too.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Corn corn sweat. Wear it like armor, bud. All right.
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
That's what buds.
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Steve-O
Butt sweat. Wear, like, armor.
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AstroDev
Yeah, hopefully he's fine.
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GREASEDAPOLES
There's nothing wrong with that. And you know what? That that new footage wasn't really much anyway.
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AstroDev
Sorry, oh, yeah,
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GREASEDAPOLES
to critique that was new. I think there was like one scene with Lex Luthor stepping off of a hella carrier or something.
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eraserhead
Yeah, and with fucking Carrera sunglasses on.
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AstroDev
yeah yeah, you know what the hide his fucking eyes dude everyone's gonna be wearing sunglasses in this movie Open season on weird eyeballs dude
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eraserhead
I love that shit.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Probably for the best.
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eraserhead
Yeah, because like, yeah, because what was the what was the thing that that was wrong last time? It was Guy Gardner's hair because they'd never seen Guy Gardner before in their lives.
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AstroDev
oh yeah Yeah, that that was that was exposing that was like you're exposed No
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eraserhead
They're complaining about that.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that was exposed.
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eraserhead
I was just exp exposed. Yeah, I was exposing that they don't know shit about anything. And then I'll do this just like. Everybody just keeps pointing to the suit and trying to say that it looks bad. And and it's like, it doesn't look bad. You're just.
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Steve-O
It's a bunch of heckin' hopped up Zack Snyder fans.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
i like that I like that it looks a little baggy, because it looks like ah a blanket that was turned into a suit.
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Steve-O
He's trying to bury it.
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GREASEDAPOLES
you know like That's what it should look like, right? Because it's whenever he was swaddled in on his journey to Earth. That's the way I always thought about it, right?
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Steve-O
You know, on the way I'm thinking about it is it looks a little baggy because, you know, he's, he's, he's doing a lot of cardio throughout these movies.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, shit, he's getting thinner.
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Steve-O
Like he's not doing lift and he's just getting a little more.
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eraserhead
I mean, he's not he's not shooting the basketball. He's just running around. He's not he's not doing anything.
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Steve-O
I mean, I'm seeing him zipping around, zooming around. I haven't seen him lift in anything heavy.
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eraserhead
ah catch He's not catching the football. He's just right he's just doing cardio out there.
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Steve-O
He's just doing cardio. it Guy's going to be a string bean by the end of the movie and people are going to say like, eat more.
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eraserhead
All right.
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GREASEDAPOLES
and what i
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AstroDev
I think it's because he flew too fast and rant blew apart that gypsy lady.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I'm curious.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I'm curious as to if how they cover it up that he's been a active, but nobody has seen him.
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Steve-O
Oh, yeah.
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Do you guys remember? I don't know. They did this thing with the flash where he got to, to, to be so fast and so good at what he was doing that nobody ever saw him again.
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AstroDev
Oh, that was like kingdom come flash, right?
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GREASEDAPOLES
And it was Kingdom Come Flash, right?
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AstroDev
We're just like, yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
um I kind of think they're gonna do that with Superman to a degree. Like he's been saving people, but it's almost like they, it's so fast that it's, they can't even see him.
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Steve-O
Mm.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Like it's, yeah, yeah.
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eraserhead
Oh, you're talking about kingdom the Kingdom Come Flash story?
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GREASEDAPOLES
I think there's gonna be some element to that why he, he's been active.
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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eraserhead
Right? Where Flash is just a force of nature at that point and nothing ever goes bad.
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GREASEDAPOLES
And I think,
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eraserhead
That's such a weird and interesting concept, actually.
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GREASEDAPOLES
maybe he starts to slow down and show himself more, you know, like, and and people get to see him now. That's, that's maybe where they're going with it. I don't know.
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Steve-O
I think he's gonna do the thing where he shakes his face real fast so it looks a little fatter.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I, Oh,
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Steve-O
Or he's blurring all the photographs or something.
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AstroDev
You know what?
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GREASEDAPOLES
the Jacob's ladder move, right?
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AstroDev
I'll be honest. I think, I think the eye gets even more cross-eyed when he's Clark Kent.
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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GREASEDAPOLES
all Like both eyes, both eyes slide.
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AstroDev
He just comes up. Yeah. He shows up and Lois is like, Oh, what the fuck?
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hi.
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Steve-O
Maybe Superman does actually need glasses.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hi.
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AstroDev
Hi, Lois.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Hi, are you Lois?
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AstroDev
Yeah.
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Steve-O
Yes, I'm Lois.
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, you better believe it.
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Steve-O
You must be Clark.
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Steve-O
Have you met my friend? Have you met Jimmy?
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GREASEDAPOLES
Oh yeah, this guy's great.
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Steve-O
why Why are you shouting?
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eraserhead
yeah mean i'm Yeah, I'm looking at the ah page from Kingdom Come.
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GREASEDAPOLES
that's i That's the new Clark, baby. You gotta get used to it.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know. That's just something I've seen.
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eraserhead
Keystone City has become utopia because nothing ever goes bad because the Flash is just constantly running around saving everybody.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I fucking love that, by the way.
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eraserhead
No one sees him, no one hears him.
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GREASEDAPOLES
I always did. Yeah.
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Steve-O
Does he just grab burgers? Like they're like, you gotta leave a burger on your wind sill for the flash.
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AstroDev
I think he's like I think he's like yeah, I think like John said I don't think he's like he's like not even human at that point.
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eraserhead
I don't know.
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AstroDev
He's just like
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GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he's just a force.
00:12:45
eraserhead
He's everywhere at once. He's everywhere at once.
00:12:47
AstroDev
yeah
00:12:48
eraserhead
That's so cool.
00:12:48
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:12:48
Steve-O
It's everywhere you wanna be.
00:12:49
eraserhead
He was. Yeah.
00:12:51
GREASEDAPOLES
But anyway, um i'm I'm excited with this, the the visuals and whatever aesthetic they're trying to do.
00:12:52
AstroDev
and never
00:12:59
Steve-O
It's gonna be awesome.
00:13:00
GREASEDAPOLES
It's cool. It's cool. and
00:13:03
AstroDev
You know, I'll be that guy.
00:13:04
Steve-O
Be that guy.
00:13:05
AstroDev
I don't think I don't think it's gonna be good.
00:13:07
eraserhead
No, you are.
00:13:07
AstroDev
I think it's gonna be bad.
00:13:08
eraserhead
You do.
00:13:08
AstroDev
No, I do.
00:13:09
eraserhead
Oh.
00:13:09
AstroDev
I'm very excited for it.
00:13:11
eraserhead
Off of that off of that. No, did you guys see the fuck it? I think the showrunner for Daredevil is fucking yapping. He's yapping right now.
00:13:20
Steve-O
You happen about what?
00:13:20
GREASEDAPOLES
He is slinging dick right now He said that and I quote the worst part of the original Daredevil series is
00:13:21
AstroDev
Oh, yeah, dude.
00:13:21
eraserhead
He was yapping. He was yapping the other the other day, right, that when he was talking about ah what was he saying?
00:13:32
GREASEDAPOLES
was just two characters sitting in a room talking about what it's like to be a hero.
00:13:37
eraserhead
Yes, that I said it to all you guys are just that the clip where Frank and
00:13:41
AstroDev
I think he just said it to me.
00:13:43
eraserhead
Frank and Matt are just literally talking about what they're doing for like 10 minutes in an old scene. It's actually really funny.
00:13:48
Steve-O
so
00:13:49
GREASEDAPOLES
he
00:13:50
eraserhead
Anyway, the the same guy, Chris. He's overextending, I think now he's he's taken on the Kings. He's talking shit on penguin. We're not talking shit on penguin, but he's saying that he was saying he compares the show to to the penguin that says we're even more grounded.
00:14:07
eraserhead
even less stylized, even more rooted in the here and now. I love Penguin. We're a little faster, meaner, cleaner in our to storytelling. Like, why why are you doing this? Why is he overextending?
00:14:17
GREASEDAPOLES
o
00:14:18
eraserhead
Why is he reaching? We haven't even seen it yet.
00:14:20
GREASEDAPOLES
mmm yeah he's being uh he's uh setting it's it screams insecurity unfortunately that's the uh the uh that's what i say at least um yeah it's just
00:14:25
eraserhead
That's like if the Penguin guy came out and was like, we're better than Breaking Bad. I don't know what to tell you. Or she was better than Breaking Bad. It doesn't. yeah
00:14:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:14:36
eraserhead
Oh, man.
00:14:40
eraserhead
Like don I don't even see how they're you they could even remotely be ah comparable. You know, they're not they're to go to completely different shows, it feels like like penguins like.
00:14:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, one's about a villain, the other's about a hero. That's pretty definitively different in my mind.
00:14:51
eraserhead
Right.
00:14:53
GREASEDAPOLES
But I guess what he's saying is more about tone and the setting. He wants it to be grounded feeling in reality. and
00:15:03
eraserhead
There's nothing I mean, if you're talking about superhero movies.
00:15:05
GREASEDAPOLES
And...
00:15:07
eraserhead
i don't think you get you you I don't think you can get much much more grounded than the Penguin. Like, it's superhero properties or whatever.
00:15:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Yeah, I think I, the only area where I think he's bigger than life is how well he's able to manipulate large groups of people or like politicians and stuff to get like real things changed.
00:15:23
eraserhead
Right, right, right.
00:15:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Like they, they and they fit the reality of the show rather well, right?
00:15:25
eraserhead
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But those are those turn those those concepts are grounded and in the scope of what the DC, what comic book properties are anyway, if you think about it.
00:15:38
eraserhead
Right.
00:15:38
GREASEDAPOLES
It all works within its own e ecosystem, but like,
00:15:41
eraserhead
And then he got a Daredevil show, so like like go on.
00:15:46
GREASEDAPOLES
And listen, i'm ah i'm i I had my issues with the Netflix Daredevil show. you know I'm also not making a new one.
00:15:54
eraserhead
But even if anything, if anything, like don't don't you think yeah, like don't you think that they would use talk about being more grounded, less stylist and more rooted in the here and now?
00:15:55
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah but And I don't have to worry about it.
00:16:06
eraserhead
in comparison to their own Marvel Cinematic Universe, like maybe that's what he should have been doing.
00:16:11
GREASEDAPOLES
I think that's closer to what he means more than anything. anything
00:16:15
eraserhead
That's what it should be, cause that, I mean, that's what Daredevil is anyway, like in general, like compared to like, you know, the Avengers or like a Spider-Man, the Spider-Man comics, like that kind of thing.
00:16:15
GREASEDAPOLES
I think.
00:16:27
GREASEDAPOLES
I'll tell you what, it is a good sign to see the level of violence in the trailer for born again.
00:16:33
eraserhead
Yeah.
00:16:33
GREASEDAPOLES
So like, if that's what he's saying, if that's what he's trying to say about like the new direction that Disney MCU shows wanna go.
Daredevil and Marvel Shows
00:16:44
GREASEDAPOLES
That's cool. I'm down with that. But yeah, just don't mention the penguin. Don't even bring it up.
00:16:48
eraserhead
Yeah, just don't put it.
00:16:50
Steve-O
Don't bring him into this.
00:16:50
eraserhead
Just keep.
00:16:51
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, don't bring it up.
00:16:51
eraserhead
Keep. Yeah.
00:16:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Don't compare yourself to something that's better.
00:16:54
eraserhead
Get your get my wife's. Keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth or whatever, whatever. Will Smith said to Chris Rock.
00:17:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Especially for a reboot, right? Like there's a lot of writing on this. There's also a comparison easy comparison to make with the old series. So it's like, You're setting yourself up for failure if you do that.
00:17:12
Steve-O
I think if you just build off of that, if you're like, wow, you know what? We love the old series, but like this new stuff is bigger, or bad, or better. Like, I think that's fair.
00:17:20
GREASEDAPOLES
That's all you had to say.
00:17:22
GREASEDAPOLES
That's all you had to say.
00:17:22
Steve-O
Like, but being like, also, yo, fuck Cheers.
00:17:25
Steve-O
Like, what are you talking about my guy?
00:17:28
GREASEDAPOLES
Our show's way more gritty than Cheers.
00:17:30
Steve-O
Dude, nobody knows your name here.
00:17:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, yeah. I get it. Of course it's gonna be more gritty than Cheers. You idiot. um Yeah, no, it's ah yeah it's just insecure and hopefully it's good after all this fucking shit talking that's been happening.
00:17:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Cause if it's bad, oi, this guy's not getting any more work. He's stepping on toes.
00:17:54
Steve-O
Do we got better lawyers than law and order?
00:17:55
GREASEDAPOLES
well
00:17:57
Steve-O
Like it's crazy.
00:18:00
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a bold statement to make on a first season of a reboot.
00:18:04
Steve-O
Yeah, especially a Disney Plus Marvel show.
00:18:04
GREASEDAPOLES
you know
00:18:07
AstroDev
Yeah, so that that was what I said. I was like, dude, you're on Disney Plus, like right now, which is not the best batting average at all.
00:18:17
AstroDev
So like, there's total down.
00:18:18
eraserhead
Yeah.
00:18:19
Steve-O
What are the best shows on Disney Plus like X-Men 97?
00:18:20
eraserhead
and why Watch chill. Take pill.
00:18:23
AstroDev
X-Men 97. I still.
00:18:25
Steve-O
Louie like what yeah what else?
00:18:25
GREASEDAPOLES
You said they own FX.
00:18:27
AstroDev
No, I mean, like if you're talking Marvel, I think like Agatha was really good. and Miss Marvel was really good.
00:18:35
Steve-O
But where's Agatha in comparison to penguin though?
00:18:36
GREASEDAPOLES
They own FX.
00:18:39
AstroDev
Right. yeah Exactly.
00:18:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Are you are, Steve, are you lumping in all everything they own?
00:18:41
AstroDev
It's like.
00:18:43
GREASEDAPOLES
Cause that there's FX too, right? They own that now.
00:18:46
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:18:46
GREASEDAPOLES
So Fargo, all that stuff.
00:18:47
Steve-O
You're right, you're right.
00:18:47
AstroDev
I mean, if you're just talking about the Marvel, f er the Marvel Disney Plus shows, it's like there's a there's quality there, like not going to deny that.
00:18:59
AstroDev
But it's like there's a lot of mud out there, too, though.
00:18:59
Steve-O
What is the best?
00:19:03
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:19:03
GREASEDAPOLES
There's X-Men 97, there's 60, oh crap.
00:19:03
AstroDev
and
00:19:07
GREASEDAPOLES
And then there's everything else.
00:19:08
Steve-O
Yeah, what's the what's the best like live action show right now on Disney Plus for Marvel?
00:19:09
AstroDev
And then there's us.
00:19:14
AstroDev
a Is I mean, I don't the best like Agatha was ah definitely one of the best. It's up there for sure.
00:19:24
Steve-O
OK.
00:19:25
AstroDev
And like, you know, it's like I think the best show up until the ending was WandaVision. Like that was appointment viewing. I would watch that in the morning before I went to work.
00:19:34
eraserhead
About Loki.
00:19:36
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, but that's before I knew the the fix was in.
00:19:37
eraserhead
Everybody loves Loki.
00:19:39
AstroDev
No, that's exact. Loki's I'm one of the few I didn't like love Loki season two.
00:19:45
GREASEDAPOLES
I didn't love it either. I didn't love the first season either.
00:19:47
Steve-O
Yeah, I didn't watch too.
00:19:47
AstroDev
Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's just like, yeah, it's not penguin, dude.
00:19:53
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a lot of like.
00:19:54
AstroDev
It's not just isn't sorry.
00:19:57
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a lot of selling Loki.
00:19:58
Steve-O
it's It's harder to like get me into a season two with a Marvel show, I feel.
00:20:02
AstroDev
Yeah. I like to be fair, it's not true like it shouldn't try to be that like, you know, it should be, I'm not even upset at the vibe.
00:20:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:20:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, initially I kind of thought, I kind of thought all MC shows are just going to be like a one season thing.
00:20:13
AstroDev
It's just like, don't bump on that because I know it's not going to be close to that, you know?
00:20:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Like that's kind of when, when the first started, that's what I would have preferred to. I guess that already happened really, except for Loki, right? What else got a second season?
00:20:33
AstroDev
Yeah, ah like Agatha is kind of a season two, like kind of, right?
00:20:37
Steve-O
It's a semi, like it's a spin off.
00:20:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:20:39
AstroDev
Yeah, it's a spin off really.
00:20:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:20:42
AstroDev
But I think, I know there's gotta be one other one that I'm not thinking of.
00:20:44
Steve-O
I think you're right. I mean, the the cartoon, the what if got three seasons already.
00:20:49
AstroDev
Yeah, what if got three seasons and I mean, but it's what it literally what if like it shouldn't. I don't know. It's. ah
00:20:59
Steve-O
It's the one show you wish was getting a little wilder. And it seems to like weirdly go like,
00:21:05
AstroDev
It's like, yeah yeah, I'll be honest.
00:21:06
Steve-O
linear storytelling strangely.
00:21:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, that's the problem. You're in that point where they don't want to character assassinate anybody and they're they're playing everything with kid gloves.
00:21:10
AstroDev
That was dude season one. Yeah. Listen, season one of that, like this is where like really. I don't want to say the cracks weren't already there, but this was like the crumbling of it is when what if season one came out and Kevin Feige is like, oh yeah, no, it's you should like watch it to like understand what's going to happen.
00:21:32
AstroDev
And I was like, why? Why?
00:21:33
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:21:33
AstroDev
It's literally what if this is the one fucking show that you shouldn't have to do anything for. Just watch.
00:21:39
Steve-O
You had a free pass.
00:21:39
AstroDev
or Yeah, you could. I should be able to just turn on episode season two, episode six and just like be in the same spot. Like what? Why, dude?
00:21:49
Steve-O
Make this your twilight zone.
00:21:49
AstroDev
And
00:21:50
Steve-O
Make this your, are you afraid of the dark?
00:21:53
AstroDev
Yeah, and the fact that there was like, a ah like a continuity that you kind of sort I don't you didn't need to write but it was like, if you wanted to be caught up, you had to watch that to before you watched Dr.
00:21:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Mmhmm. Serialize it.
00:22:07
AstroDev
Strange.
00:22:08
Steve-O
a
00:22:08
AstroDev
And I was like, this is No, like, no, dude, I stop it. And even and again, we're talking like very minimal, but it's just the fact that he like went out and said that.
00:22:20
AstroDev
I was like, dude, like stop just. Yeah, the TV shit, it's just it's too much.
00:22:25
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:22:26
AstroDev
Not saying you can't make TV shows, but just fucking chill, dude, please.
00:22:31
Steve-O
TV's a big ask of your audience.
00:22:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Sure is.
00:22:34
Steve-O
Asking for two hours from some, like someone is easier than asking for like several hours.
00:22:34
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:22:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, it's it's a commitment.
00:22:41
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a it's a way bigger commitment.
00:22:41
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:22:41
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:22:43
GREASEDAPOLES
And to be honest, most Marvel shows kind of just feel like the same shit over and over again. And I can't I would never I didn't want to commit myself to any more of it because it just felt samey, you know, stylistically and tonally.
00:22:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Everything was kind of funny, you know, like it's just Even the werewolf show, they tried to make werewolf by night. Like it wasn't, I did not like that at all.
00:23:05
AstroDev
I like that one, I'll be honest.
00:23:08
GREASEDAPOLES
It wasn't scary in any way.
00:23:09
AstroDev
I, think you know, to me, I saw it once and I went, huh, okay. Like.
00:23:12
GREASEDAPOLES
I just, everything feels like it's the same tone in all of their shows. And that stinks.
00:23:19
AstroDev
Whose fault is that? Chris, is it Robert Downey Jr's fault or is it Joss Whedon's fault?
00:23:21
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know.
00:23:25
GREASEDAPOLES
I have no clue.
00:23:26
AstroDev
You know.
00:23:27
GREASEDAPOLES
It's the people that keep making it that way it's fall. Like do something different.
00:23:31
AstroDev
Yeah. The problem is, is, is when somebody tries to do something different, it doesn't make money.
00:23:32
GREASEDAPOLES
ah That's it Well, that's hopefully Daredevil born again is that like that's them taking a chance making something totally different That's maybe not so hehehe look.
00:23:36
AstroDev
So they're like, well, fuck. Okay.
00:23:44
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:23:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay. We are you know?
00:23:48
AstroDev
Well, I did read that he's the the showrunner, because again, he just keeps talking. He's like, yeah, we're just going to pretend the whole She-Hulk thing didn't happen.
00:23:55
eraserhead
keeps ypping yp yap and
00:23:59
AstroDev
He's like not saying it never happened, but he's like, we're just not going to like touch on that.
00:24:03
GREASEDAPOLES
It's fine.
00:24:03
eraserhead
what that
00:24:04
GREASEDAPOLES
It's fine.
00:24:04
eraserhead
but he smashed they smashed
00:24:05
AstroDev
Yeah, that he like went off and.
00:24:06
eraserhead
that
00:24:06
GREASEDAPOLES
But I, I, that's fine.
00:24:06
eraserhead
are What's wrong with the tone of Matt fucking fucking everybody?
00:24:08
GREASEDAPOLES
If they want to, if they want to maintain the tone that they have, that's probably a good thing. Like I, I'm okay with that because, you know, yeah that's all I'm saying.
00:24:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:24:21
eraserhead
I mean that's basically Matt in the comics
00:24:21
AstroDev
Well, it's it's but that's that is goof that's as goofy as he's ever been. And I'm not saying he was like a clown, but it was...
00:24:27
eraserhead
Okay, like, yeah.
00:24:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Like you want to maintain the,
00:24:31
AstroDev
Yeah,
00:24:32
GREASEDAPOLES
the dark.
00:24:33
eraserhead
But he was basically like, yo, you wanna fuck? And she was like, yeah.
00:24:37
AstroDev
yeah but then he's like walk...
00:24:37
eraserhead
And then they banged.
00:24:37
GREASEDAPOLES
That's fine.
00:24:38
AstroDev
Yeah, but he's like doing the walk of shame, like with his... in his full costume without his boots.
00:24:41
eraserhead
So what, man?
00:24:43
AstroDev
No, I'm just saying, like, because Daredevil Daredevil in the comic, i'll do I love it, too.
00:24:43
eraserhead
I was full on shit in them, I wanted them to get married.
00:24:47
AstroDev
But like Daredevil in the comic is either fucking grimdark or he's like a goofball, you know?
00:24:54
eraserhead
Or he's Mark Wade, Daredevil.
00:24:56
AstroDev
Yeah, he's like Mark Waidare devil, right? And it's and I'm not like because Daredevil in the beginning was like a goofy dude, you know, not like comedic, but like kind of like Spider-Man ask, right?
00:25:07
GREASEDAPOLES
Okay. Check it out.
00:25:07
AstroDev
Because probably everything
00:25:07
GREASEDAPOLES
i go I'm going to spit on this guy.
00:25:09
AstroDev
kind of everybody was spider-man ask I guess back in the day, but You know and then or you get fucking grimdark Bendis and prove maker Yeah, Noah God could you imagine though your mood changes that much?
00:25:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, I, yeah.
00:25:18
GREASEDAPOLES
And you know, you do that Devin, you know, how I do that in the MCU when he goes to California is having a good time. When he goes back to New York, it's dark, easy.
00:25:30
AstroDev
This is what the Sun is this what the Sun does to me?
00:25:30
GREASEDAPOLES
California's Yeah, that's, I mean, to a lot of people, a lot of people say that.
00:25:33
AstroDev
It makes me happy Guys, don't let them go to Florida and start voting for Trump.
00:25:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh man, that's a whole Nifford show.
00:25:41
AstroDev
oh Oh, yeah.
00:25:41
GREASEDAPOLES
That's like, that's like cheers when he goes to Florida.
00:25:45
AstroDev
Wait, is that where choose things, please?
00:25:47
GREASEDAPOLES
No, Boston.
00:25:47
AstroDev
Oh, OK. It's going to say damn.
00:25:50
GREASEDAPOLES
But ah yeah, I'm excited i'm excited outside of all the stupid comments this guy's making.
00:25:55
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, it's like. when When's it come out? Do we know? got the
00:26:02
Steve-O
I think it has a date on it already, right?
00:26:03
AstroDev
dar devil Daredevil born again, let's see Well, I got like I got like Martin no March 4th Yeah, I got like triggered because the the literally the the article that I clicked it was like Oh, they're gonna remove they're not gonna touch him a controversial storyline and I was like, oh So they're just not doing born again.
00:26:10
GREASEDAPOLES
February?
00:26:11
eraserhead
Yeah, it's next month. It's next month. How is it March 4? It's practically next month.
00:26:17
GREASEDAPOLES
It's the Devil's Month.
00:26:29
AstroDev
And then it was like just them talking about him smashing She-Hulk and I was like
00:26:31
GREASEDAPOLES
See, that's not controversial to me.
00:26:34
AstroDev
OK, it's fair.
00:26:37
GREASEDAPOLES
This is fun.
00:26:37
AstroDev
Yeah, to to me, I'm like, why wouldn't you?
00:26:39
GREASEDAPOLES
But I get it. I get why they're doing it. I get the tone. i mean i I'm all about it. I'm on board. Let's see if they sell it.
00:26:46
AstroDev
I just hate that sometimes, sometimes I'm like, oh, those guys won. The guys that freaked the fuck out because she helped. Like, you know, what? Why are they giving her all those attention? She's bullshit, shoving it down my face like those guys won.
00:27:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, those are the majority of the people that watch Marvel movies.
00:27:06
AstroDev
oh da
00:27:06
GREASEDAPOLES
You gotta understand, Devin.
00:27:07
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:27:08
AstroDev
ah
00:27:09
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't know what to tell you, buddy.
00:27:12
AstroDev
ah
00:27:12
GREASEDAPOLES
That's the unfortunate fact.
00:27:14
AstroDev
Damn hoist it by my own baton
00:27:18
GREASEDAPOLES
um I watched some
Film Reviews: 'The Brutalist' and 'Conclave'
00:27:21
GREASEDAPOLES
movies. Can I talk about some movies I watched over over the week?
00:27:22
AstroDev
Yeah
00:27:22
AstroDev
yeah go for it
00:27:24
GREASEDAPOLES
I watched, I'm finishing up all the films that have been nominated for Academy Awards. um And this week I watched The Brutalist and I watched Conclave.
00:27:37
GREASEDAPOLES
um The Brutalist. i I watched a really shitty version of it, admittedly. I think it might be, even watching it through a shitty cam, I think it might be the best looking movie of the year.
00:27:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Like it is, yeah.
00:27:54
Steve-O
Yeah?
00:27:55
eraserhead
Over Nosferatu?
00:27:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. um And it is, uh,
00:27:58
eraserhead
Oh, man.
00:28:02
GREASEDAPOLES
It shot on VistaVision, which is a side-loaded film camera shot and it's the the film was moving horizontally across the frame. um It's the same camera that was used by Cecil B. DeMille for the Ten Commandments.
00:28:20
eraserhead
That's insane.
00:28:21
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a huge, giant camera. Basically, it shoots the way they're saying it's ah there's a more focused image and it's
00:28:29
eraserhead
oh Yeah, it's like horizontal or it's ah they they've changed the orientation to get more of the frame right or something
00:28:34
GREASEDAPOLES
get more frame into the picture. So it's a bigger frame. It's also the coloring is much better. It's much sharper. um And it's particularly striking in this movie in black and white in some scenes that have no color.
00:28:48
GREASEDAPOLES
It kind of makes the white and blacks have like texture. Like you can kind of reach out and and touch them.
00:28:55
eraserhead
They used the, they used Vision 3, or ah the, yeah, the Vision 3 Tungsten film that Call Me By Your Name used, I think.
00:29:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Yes, yes, it is.
00:29:03
eraserhead
That's all too. That film is so, oh my god, dude.
00:29:06
GREASEDAPOLES
There is a scene where they they go, the the plot of the film, it's actually not a biopic, it's it's totally original a character or created.
00:29:08
eraserhead
It's so good.
00:29:15
GREASEDAPOLES
The concepts, the ideas, and some of the ah the history of that form of architecture is there, but the character himself who is named, oh god, I was completely blank on the name.
00:29:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Problem of watching all these movies in a row. Laszlo, Laszlo, he's completely fictionalized character and he is a ah ah Polish immigrant, a Polish, a Jew who's escaping Germany.
00:29:41
eraserhead
Yeah, 500T. Wow, dude.
00:29:46
GREASEDAPOLES
ah he he He was a survivor of the Dachau camp. um The opening scene is him on a ah boat to America and he's clawing his way through the boat to go see the Statue of Liberty.
00:30:00
GREASEDAPOLES
And he falls and he falls on onto the deck and the camera flips with him and you see the Statue of Liberty upside down. And it's this is all one take of him moving through the boat.
00:30:13
GREASEDAPOLES
And it's on film, on fucking film.
00:30:13
eraserhead
on film and on film.
00:30:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Like it's just... um
00:30:17
eraserhead
That's awesome.
00:30:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Technically just a masterpiece it really is and I should see this in theaters. I really should it's You know, I'd be damned even what it's about. Yeah help the whole idea of an immigrant coming to America being seduced by a but for money to build a a giant a community center by an eccentric millionaire who, as his he fits, acts like you know most millionaires do. And the eventual domination of Laszlo by him, and how the American dream just is is fake, and how he went from being almost killed in Germany to being fucked
00:31:09
GREASEDAPOLES
in America by rich people. Like that is the natural progression of the story. But in all that trying to build this giant community center in Doylestown, Pennsylvania.
00:31:23
eraserhead
course gaybirds they said that
00:31:23
GREASEDAPOLES
And it is, um ah he's basically, he's trying to build like a giant concrete castle.
00:31:26
Steve-O
Go beach!
00:31:28
AstroDev
yeah
00:31:34
GREASEDAPOLES
And the reason why they go to Italy is to get marble from a marble quarry. for this giant tower that rises up from the the center of this building. And when the sun hits it, it reflects light into the center of the building, like beautifully. And yeah, that scene where they go to Italy, Murano, Italy to get the marble, it's just gorgeous. absolutely beautiful, texturally beautiful. um Yeah, that' that's a hell of a movie.
00:32:08
GREASEDAPOLES
And I think I, I'm i'm gonna, I'm kind of thinking I'm gonna reserve my review until I see it in the way it's supposed to be seen. Because it's, I don't think I got.
00:32:18
AstroDev
On my iPhone
00:32:20
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no. Yeah, I just, this movie, and not that seeing it on cam just demanded its attention to go see it in theaters, you know.
00:32:33
GREASEDAPOLES
It's three and a half hours.
00:32:33
AstroDev
Yeah, man I'll be on that that gives me pause man, I'll be honest
00:32:35
GREASEDAPOLES
It's got a 15 minute intermission. But I don't know, like I'm seeing enough of it. I think the scene that really hooked me in this movie is he builds a library for this millionaire as a surprise. His son basically hires Laszlo and his cousin in America to build this library. And once he builds it in the library itself, it's just like this beautiful minimalist library with basically shutters that all move at the same time to open up the entire extent of the library and one singular chair in the center which is being lit by a top sun roof where the the sunlight's coming down perfectly and it's I just wow it's a feast for the eyes um
00:33:26
AstroDev
Is Adrian bro Brody good in it? Like I just keep hearing about how good it looks, but like, I don't know. Like I don't, I have no idea what the plot is really.
00:33:35
GREASEDAPOLES
I'll be, I'll be honest with you, Devin.
00:33:35
AstroDev
And.
00:33:36
GREASEDAPOLES
I, I think Adrian Brody is really, he's playing the same type of character. He's played in like the pianist and in a few other films, sad pitiful person.
00:33:44
AstroDev
Okay. So sad immigrant. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:50
GREASEDAPOLES
and Um, and I'm, I, it, no,
00:33:50
eraserhead
But does he play Chopin to an SS soldier?
00:33:55
GREASEDAPOLES
well kinda, it yells not that same exact thing, but like something like that.
00:33:55
eraserhead
To tears? Oh, he does? OK, so then he does.
00:34:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:34:03
eraserhead
And ah in a dilapidated house on a dilapidated piano.
00:34:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Sorta.
00:34:07
GREASEDAPOLES
You see his beauty at some point, like what he's his genius.
00:34:10
eraserhead
Actually, I do love love that scene from the pianist.
00:34:13
GREASEDAPOLES
I will say I think Guy Pearce is is probably I think he's better in the movie than Adrian Brody as as the millionaire, the eccentric millionaire.
00:34:13
eraserhead
ah
00:34:23
GREASEDAPOLES
I think he he's channeling something like maybe a little bit of like Howard Hughes and kind of like Patton. General Patton.
00:34:35
eraserhead
interesting that's interesting
00:34:36
GREASEDAPOLES
I would throw him in there like real blunt and shit. um Yeah. I think he was great. I think there are also some questionable plot choices in this movie. I think there are some things that happen that I.
00:34:53
GREASEDAPOLES
I think they, they, they, it's like they push the message onto you too much with it. Like it's, it, you were doing it, the movie was doing what it had to do so subtly. And then it just does this very unsubtle thing to really push home the message. And I'm like, I think it was a bit too much. I think it was a bit too much.
00:35:19
GREASEDAPOLES
I think even Guy Pearce comments about it, like, this a particular scene where he's like, you sure about this? You know, like that kind of thing to the director.
00:35:29
AstroDev
no
00:35:31
GREASEDAPOLES
And he's like, oh yeah, yeah, no, we're totally on board. We're doing it. And it was apparently really early in production that the scene occurred. And I was like, well, that's bold.
00:35:43
GREASEDAPOLES
That's fucking bold. That scene, like the first week, um Anyway, yeah, I'm gonna reserve my review.
00:35:53
GREASEDAPOLES
I wanna see it at least in a better version than the cam that I saw, because it looked like shit.
00:35:54
AstroDev
Ha ha ha.
00:35:58
eraserhead
Right.
00:36:00
GREASEDAPOLES
But I also watched Conclave, and um that was a wonderful movie. Really, really good.
00:36:12
GREASEDAPOLES
ah Very much like, ah like ah it's a mystery, you know? You're you're constantly following Cardinal Lawrence, who's the Dean, I believe of the Cardinals.
00:36:24
GREASEDAPOLES
I think that's his title. Um, but yeah, Devin explained some of the plot when he picked it for his movie of the year.
00:36:30
AstroDev
yeah yeah my my personal movie of the year twenty twenty four cola
00:36:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, yeah, basically choosing a Pope and, um, they are sequestered inside of all these Cardinals are sequestered inside. of, um, the Vatican to choose who's going to be the next Pope. And it's just a fucking hitter's row of actors who, um, Stanley Tucci, Jonathan left gal, um, Ray finds, uh, who else am I forgetting? Oh, Isabelle Rossellini. Uh, it's just so many good actors, so many great performances from actors that I don't know.
00:37:10
eraserhead
Isabel Rosalini's in Conclave. Oh, my God.
00:37:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Yeah, and she she plays none, obviously. um But her her character's wonderful.
00:37:19
eraserhead
I watched the movie with her in it this week.
00:37:21
GREASEDAPOLES
it's it's It's a movie where you think but what the only twist that matters is the mystery, and you're you're sold on it, and once that's fulfilled, you're like, oh, okay, that's all done.
00:37:33
eraserhead
Oh, wait, Devin, you didn't tell me Stanley Tucci was in this movie.
00:37:36
AstroDev
I
00:37:37
eraserhead
What the fuck?
00:37:38
AstroDev
I may have, actually.
00:37:39
eraserhead
Well, now I gotta watch it.
00:37:40
GREASEDAPOLES
There is a,
00:37:40
eraserhead
Now I gotta watch it, because he's in it.
00:37:41
GREASEDAPOLES
a very good twist in this film that you do not see coming.
00:37:43
AstroDev
Yeah. yeah
00:37:47
GREASEDAPOLES
That's all I'm going to say. And I think it does. The mystery is almost a red herring for that twist, for that twist to kind of work its way in and, um, almost to you not to see it.
00:37:59
GREASEDAPOLES
And yeah, it's just, it's a really great movie. Wonderfully shot, beautiful movie. Um, and both these directors, I really, I'm not familiar with either of the works.
00:38:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Like, I don't know much about the director of The Brutalist or or the director of this film. um Yeah, I just, I, i with that, it was really, really good movie.
00:38:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it just refines its weight in this too. Holy shit, man.
00:38:29
AstroDev
Yeah, I don't you know, I think Oscars came out right nominations, but like, I think he should win it, man.
00:38:32
eraserhead
Voldemort.
00:38:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I mean, there are,
00:38:40
eraserhead
Has he won one before?
00:38:42
AstroDev
I don't think so.
00:38:43
GREASEDAPOLES
He got nominated many times.
00:38:44
eraserhead
Even in the was it him or his brother that played Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson?
00:38:46
GREASEDAPOLES
No, he I think he won for he won for Schindler's List, I believe, didn't he?
00:38:52
AstroDev
ah What best Nazi?
00:38:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Best Supporting Actor.
00:38:57
AstroDev
Let's see.
00:38:57
eraserhead
Now Elon Musk it's best best Nazi Is it his is it was it him or his brother was it him or his brother I played Michael Jackson in that movie nobody watched Was
00:39:00
GREASEDAPOLES
I thought he did.
00:39:01
AstroDev
Well, he might have.
00:39:02
GREASEDAPOLES
He was really good in that.
00:39:03
AstroDev
Well, yeah, he's he's kind of one of those guys are like he's pretty good in everything.
00:39:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Wow, he's got nominations.
00:39:15
AstroDev
Yeah, I think it was his brother.
00:39:16
eraserhead
it Ray finds What's the name of that Michael Jackson movie that one of the fines brothers plays him
00:39:17
AstroDev
You're talking about joke joke at Joker fights.
00:39:22
AstroDev
Oh, it's yeah, it's like.
00:39:26
eraserhead
Michael Jackson. Oh yeah it was Joe Fine.
00:39:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, wow, he only got, I can't believe he just got nominated for Schindler's List.
00:39:29
eraserhead
Oh my god this looks so bad.
00:39:34
GREASEDAPOLES
He's so good in that movie.
00:39:34
eraserhead
joe Joseph Fine says playing Michael Jackson was the wrong decision and a bad mistake. This looks horrifying.
00:39:41
GREASEDAPOLES
Did he get nominated for the menu refunds?
00:39:44
AstroDev
I don't think so. Now, do genre genre movies don't do well in the Oscars.
00:39:45
GREASEDAPOLES
That's a shame.
00:39:45
eraserhead
yeah
00:39:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:39:51
AstroDev
Really anywhere, frankly.
00:39:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. No, you're right. Um, yeah.
00:39:54
AstroDev
But.
00:39:56
GREASEDAPOLES
Conclave. That was Mary. That was a fantastic movie.
00:39:58
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:39:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, I really, yeah, go, go see it. It's, it's you, you, I, I, some people I know, my parents in particular thought this movie was just going to be a movie bashing the Catholic church, which, Hey, there's a long list of movies that do that.
00:40:07
eraserhead
What else is Joseph?
00:40:14
GREASEDAPOLES
And they've won Academy awards. That's not really what this is. I wouldn't say that that is that exactly like there is There's like hope in this movie Yeah, yes, I Guess because it it reveals a lot of the inner
00:40:23
eraserhead
Well, apparently, the Catholic Church really was, you know, I mean, every movie that's about the Catholic Church, they vow like they make people try to get people not to see them. But this one, they they they specifically We're telling people in the church not to see it.
00:40:38
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:40:42
GREASEDAPOLES
you know, inner workings of choosing a Pope. I think it's a really...
00:40:45
eraserhead
Right.
00:40:45
AstroDev
Yeah, and just seeing Cardinals act like humans is kind of interesting.
00:40:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, yeah I'm glad you brought that up. I always forgot.
00:40:50
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:40:51
GREASEDAPOLES
There's some lovely scenes where they're like interacting with technology in the movie and they're having this big argument in a cafeteria and they're like yelling at one another and one of the Cardinals pulls out like a vape pen and hits it.
00:41:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Like while it's silent, and you just hear it like, And then I left i lift my fucking ass off.
00:41:13
eraserhead
Uh-huh.
00:41:14
GREASEDAPOLES
This is so funny. um Yeah, it just a lot of them, it it very much makes them seem human. Like the whole movie is basically just hammering home.
00:41:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Like these are just human beings. They're flawed like all of us making these decisions. Some are worse than others, you know? But really it's just people, you know?
00:41:36
GREASEDAPOLES
um Yeah. And that's the most fascinating part of it. And I feel like that's where the Catholic church is like, no, no, we can't, we can't show them being human. you know like that That would not be good.
00:41:47
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:41:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, that sucks because I actually think this is a really hopeful optimistic film. And, um, yeah, I, I, really enjoyed it. Uh, I really enjoyed both movies, but I want to see the other and in theaters properly.
00:42:05
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, Yeah, that's it. Oh, and I watched the second episode of severance, which I know Steve did instead.
00:42:13
Steve-O
Sup, roots?
00:42:14
AstroDev
I'm still behind Yeah,
00:42:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Devin's still behind. He's a little behind.
David Lynch Films and Style
00:42:18
AstroDev
I was gonna watch it tonight, but we had a fucking podcast I also watched blue velvet.
00:42:18
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, okay. All right. Calm down. Watch your silence. Um, still going strong.
00:42:24
Steve-O
Bunch of jerk-ass pot-tasters.
00:42:30
eraserhead
I watched Blue Velvet and Eraserhead this week.
00:42:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Yes.
00:42:34
eraserhead
So clap your hands for me.
00:42:36
AstroDev
Yeah It's
00:42:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Clap your hands, everybody.
00:42:37
eraserhead
Well, Devin, you don't even like Blue Velvet. So you should just don't tell people that you watched it.
00:42:40
AstroDev
fine, it's an okay movie It's fine
00:42:41
eraserhead
Just don't. You're crazy, dude.
00:42:45
AstroDev
Dude, I said this.
00:42:45
GREASEDAPOLES
I love Blue Velvet, so.
00:42:46
eraserhead
You know,
00:42:46
AstroDev
I said this like I like David Lynch. I really love some of his work, but I think I just got to call it like I like some of David Lynch.
00:42:57
eraserhead
yeah you should probably watch Eraserhead. You should probably watch Eraserhead tonight.
00:43:00
AstroDev
I probably will. I honestly I probably tonight.
00:43:02
eraserhead
Tonight.
00:43:03
AstroDev
No, but it's just like I David Lynch is more misses than hits for me personally.
00:43:07
eraserhead
You should do a bunch of drugs and watch Eraserhead.
00:43:12
AstroDev
ah Blue Velvet was good, just not. All that. and i It's like when the it's like when the rails are truly just like when we're off the rails fully, I really just kind of lose interest in any movie. And, you know, we hit that point near the end. And I was just like, this is kind of fucking dumb, like I don't.
00:43:39
AstroDev
vibe with a lot of the characters.
00:43:42
eraserhead
What was the part where they went off the rails completely? I think it pretty much started off started off the rails.
00:43:45
AstroDev
ah When. No, no, because there's like and I'm not even saying the plot's nonsensical like.
00:43:49
eraserhead
Dude, he finds a fucking ear in his yard. like that's That's off the rails.
00:43:55
AstroDev
Yeah, du no, no, John, John, you need to grow up if that's off the rails for you, you need to grow the fuck up.
00:43:57
eraserhead
That's the beginning of the movie. like that's
00:44:02
AstroDev
That's a that's a mystery.
00:44:02
eraserhead
ah
00:44:03
Steve-O
Kevin finds an ear every day.
00:44:05
AstroDev
That dude, that's the mystery I'm talking about.
00:44:05
GREASEDAPOLES
and that's but phil that be a baby
00:44:08
AstroDev
Yeah, dude, are you fucking kidding me?
00:44:08
Steve-O
Goldbirds!
00:44:10
AstroDev
You need to get some thicker skin, my guy. Like, like when when...
00:44:13
eraserhead
What's off the rails in that movie like I think that like see having the the beginning of the movie be that like I you don't you know you kind of It doesn't it kind of set your expectations You see a bunch of fucking beetles in ah under the ground fucking
00:44:20
GREASEDAPOLES
well Well technically technically that's not technically that's not the beginning in the beginning in the movie is
00:44:27
AstroDev
Is when the dad, like, has a fucking...
00:44:28
GREASEDAPOLES
He has a heart attack. But what do you see in the beginning of that movie? You see this beautiful. Well, before even before you see that, you see this serene suburb, right?
00:44:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Everybody's happy and shit. And then this guy has a fucking heart attack. And then it closes up to these disgusting beetles that are just moving around is the microcosm of the movie.
00:44:43
eraserhead
listen man that's disgusting insects yeah and that's not and that's what I'm well that well that's what I'm trying to say it's like you you kind of expect shit to happen at at that point like because they they he foreshadows basically the entire movie in the in the opening five minutes of it
00:44:46
AstroDev
Yeah, a little gross bugs.
00:44:48
Steve-O
Well,
00:44:50
GREASEDAPOLES
That's the whole movie right there.
00:44:51
AstroDev
Well.
00:44:52
Steve-O
first theme.
00:44:55
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:56
AstroDev
Yeah, no, listen, it's.
00:45:02
AstroDev
Dude, it's basically when like Laura Dern's character just becomes like a fucking goofball ah and like Dorothy is Dorothy ah like
00:45:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Yes.
00:45:13
eraserhead
See, you know, you watch the movie, you know, I don't even.
00:45:14
AstroDev
i Did to know but one of the Dorothy's like shit basically I'll tell you exactly where it lost me when Dorothy shows up No, and Dorothy shows up naked in front of ah Yeah, that's what I thought it lost me at the end I was like it just went too far.
00:45:20
eraserhead
When they have the Silent Hill scene.
00:45:25
eraserhead
That's the end of the movie, and it's. No, but like, how do you not? How's that?
00:45:31
AstroDev
It just went too fucking far and I'm like I'm not saying it's out of you know why because because I
00:45:32
eraserhead
How is that like?
00:45:33
GREASEDAPOLES
that's that's That's his life.
00:45:34
eraserhead
No, but how is that out of?
00:45:35
GREASEDAPOLES
that's That's his two worlds colliding, man.
00:45:37
eraserhead
No, but it's yeah, how is it a how is that out of how is that out of pocket?
00:45:37
GREASEDAPOLES
That's the dark world and the light world.
00:45:42
eraserhead
How is that out of pocket?
00:45:43
AstroDev
because Laura Dern becomes a fucking idiot. And then he then then it becomes this goofy fucking chase scene where he goes into a house and like this character, Ben, that you thought was kind of interesting is just randomly dead.
00:45:49
eraserhead
Hold on. Hold on a second. Time out.
00:45:55
AstroDev
ah This detective who never really becomes a thing is just standing there kind of dead.
00:45:57
eraserhead
Oh, my God.
00:46:01
eraserhead
You're just describing Twin Peaks, but like in a movie.
00:46:04
AstroDev
Now, dude, listen, I'm there's a lot of David Lynch's, you know, work that like this doesn't fucking work with me.
00:46:09
eraserhead
I don't I don't understand how that how that's off the rails, like when the entire movie was leading up to that.
00:46:13
AstroDev
because it's just near the end. I was like, what the, it's not, it's not leading up to that, dude.
00:46:18
GREASEDAPOLES
I think it is, but...
00:46:18
eraserhead
Yes, it is.
00:46:19
GREASEDAPOLES
I think it is.
00:46:19
eraserhead
Are you sure?
00:46:20
AstroDev
No, no, not at all, dude, not all.
00:46:20
eraserhead
Did. Did the first the first third of the the the first third of the movie, you see Isabel Rossellini strip naked.
00:46:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Got an old boy in the movie.
00:46:27
AstroDev
Frank Booth is a psychopath at 12 and he never stops.
00:46:32
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
00:46:32
eraserhead
Yeah, but that that no, but that's the thing.
00:46:32
AstroDev
So by the time that I did, dude,
00:46:34
eraserhead
That's what I was. That's what I was getting to, though, is like that that happens at the beginning of the movie. You see Frank fucking say, I want it mommy, I want to fuck.
00:46:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Mommy!
00:46:40
AstroDev
no
00:46:43
eraserhead
Like 20 minutes into the movie after inhaling a bunch of ni nitrous oxide Like that's literally in the first third of the movie though.
00:46:44
AstroDev
Yeah. And.
00:46:47
AstroDev
Yeah, because listen. Listen, dude, I'll tell you right now, I'm not against weird shit.
00:46:50
eraserhead
Like you can't you can't You can't tell me you can't tell me that like seeing a naked woman at the end of the movie is like blowing it up and like Exploding off the rails like that's kind of that's kind of that's kind of on a but out of pocket say that They were nonsensical the whole movie dude, they were that's what it was like whole movie
00:46:58
AstroDev
No. No, because it's it's it's all the characters are like become nonsensical to me. Right. It's like Frank with. Dude, I can't like if you're not going to let me explain it like if there's no point. I'm just saying like,
00:47:15
AstroDev
there's
00:47:15
eraserhead
Go ahead, explain it.
00:47:15
AstroDev
There's there's a lot of points in these David Lynch movies where I just go like, yeah, you know what?
00:47:16
eraserhead
Explain it, then.
00:47:21
AstroDev
Like I'm I tapped out. Right. It's not. It's pretty interesting. I'm on board. And then we just hit a point where I just kind of I'm like, it's too fucking it's too much.
00:47:28
GREASEDAPOLES
Well.
00:47:30
eraserhead
but No, let him explain, Chris, or else we won't get it. So let him explain himself more.
00:47:34
AstroDev
No, I'm not. I'm not trying to get you to get it. I'm explaining my point in terms of like what I don't like about. it
00:47:42
GREASEDAPOLES
I will say.
00:47:42
AstroDev
Again, when Isabella shows up naked and then you're like, Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. Chris, like the world's collide. And then it's just like, Laura Dern gets over it.
00:47:50
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, that's the. David Lynch does have a tendency to pull the rug out for money, but that's kind of, that's your that's the ticket.
00:47:55
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:47:58
eraserhead
yeah But like I feel like that this movie is pretty fucking Oh my god I don't think I think it's I think what you're saying is baseless I think it's baseless.
00:47:58
GREASEDAPOLES
You pay the ticket for the ride.
00:47:59
AstroDev
He gets over. He goes into a house. He goes into a fucking apartment where like all these people are dead, kind of. And then Frank Booth is just being crazy like he was crazy the entire movie.
00:48:10
AstroDev
And it's like there's just at that point, you can't go further. So he just goes sideways to me. Right. You can't escalate anymore because we hit fucking peak escalation middle of the movie.
00:48:22
AstroDev
And then when he and then when he and then he can't go any higher and then he goes fucking sideways.
00:48:23
eraserhead
I think you were on your phone and You were doom scrolling on your phone during important parts of the movie and you you missed some of it.
00:48:30
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm just scrolling.
00:48:31
eraserhead
I think that's what it was.
00:48:32
AstroDev
Yeah, you caught me.
00:48:33
eraserhead
To be honest.
00:48:33
AstroDev
You caught me. ah Yeah. And then, ah you know, Sandy's like, actually, sorry, I overreacted. Sorry, Jeffrey. My bad. I do love you. And it just ends on a very I don't know.
00:48:46
AstroDev
It just it ends on a.
00:48:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Jeffrey's changed though at the end.
00:48:48
AstroDev
ah He was he was a fucking here's the thing.
00:48:49
GREASEDAPOLES
He's never going to be the same.
00:48:54
AstroDev
Jeffrey was never normal, though.
00:48:56
GREASEDAPOLES
No, Jeffrey was normal.
00:48:57
AstroDev
He's a weird dude.
00:48:58
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, no, no, no.
00:48:58
AstroDev
He's a weirdo from the start.
00:49:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Jeffrey Jeffrey was normal, but he dipped his toe into the weird shit from time to time and he he went full bore this time and he's totally different now.
00:49:02
eraserhead
my god Yeah, and he got he got yeah you got to yeah he he got a taste of it.
00:49:08
AstroDev
Dude, dude, I'm going to be Stephen King.
00:49:10
eraserhead
You got a taste of the He got a taste of the underground and he and he wanted a little bit more each time he overreached
00:49:16
AstroDev
Dude, I'm going to be Stephen King watching The Shining, right? I was like, it was why I don't like it. He's he's crazy from the start, right? He's you could tell right away he's a nut job.
00:49:25
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't think so. That's not true.
00:49:26
AstroDev
I don't know, dude, like and again, it's it's not that I thought it was stupid. It's not that I wasn't interested. it It's not that I thought there weren't good bits. Like I do like weird.
00:49:38
AstroDev
It was just like when there's nowhere to escalate and it just goes fucking sideways, it's not, it's it loses me.
00:49:39
eraserhead
I don't know, man. You can't say you like weird and then and then complain and they complain about a naked lady at one scene at the end and say that that's that's where the movie blew up and lost you.
00:49:48
AstroDev
No, John, it's not it's not that she was naked, right?
00:49:51
eraserhead
So stupid.
00:49:52
AstroDev
It's not that she was naked.
00:49:53
eraserhead
It doesn't even make any sense.
00:49:54
AstroDev
It's the fact that she shows up and then everything just kind of like confetti basically fucking explodes and like just everything stops making sense.
00:50:02
eraserhead
Yeah, that's what that's what a climax that's what the the story is the climax of a movie is.
00:50:03
AstroDev
It's not that I was like, I'm not, I'm not clutching pearls because I see fucking boobs, dude.
00:50:09
GREASEDAPOLES
This is what I think. This is my perspective on that.
00:50:11
eraserhead
Ah.
00:50:11
GREASEDAPOLES
I just want to give it to you. This is why, how I viewed that whole end sequence. When I first saw it, I saw that, you know, we talked about the world's colliding thing. Everything goes crazy when that happens because there is no normal anymore.
00:50:24
eraserhead
Yeah.
00:50:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Normal is gone. Like at that point, he has gone too far into the darkness. He's looked too deep into the void. and it's come and it's completely spread over everything. And at the very end of the movie, she's just once normal again, his his girlfriend. That's all she wants. She doesn't want that. She's scared out of her mind, but he's gone. He's done. Like that's, he's he's not reachable by her at the end of that movie.
00:50:55
GREASEDAPOLES
And that's why I liked it because he, he kept talking about how living a normal life is boring. When in reality, that normal life had this seedy, disgusting, weird underworld that just turns everything to shit under his feet, under his feet.
00:51:09
AstroDev
The end is a fucking fever like and I'm saying like the and no, no, but I'm saying that No, no dude no, I'm telling you the end end the end end where the dad's fine.
00:51:12
GREASEDAPOLES
It is, it is.
00:51:14
eraserhead
but you That's the whole point that's what it is. Oh my god Yeah, and they see the fucking Robin they see the Robin fucking with a fucking bugger in his mouth Everything is quote unquote normal except for the robotic fucking Robin in the windowsill with a fucking cockroach in its mouth Yeah, that's real normal
00:51:20
AstroDev
He's fucking you know, he's sitting on a fucking he's laying on a ah Yeah Yeah
00:51:28
GREASEDAPOLES
Everything is normal, parentheses.
00:51:36
AstroDev
I mean, like, listen, it's it's kind of like it's kind of like my issue with Mahalan Drive.
00:51:39
eraserhead
have
00:51:40
AstroDev
Like there's there's just points of that movie where I just it just I'm like, OK, just get out of your system and then we can get back to the movie.
00:51:42
eraserhead
my god
00:51:50
AstroDev
Mahalan Drive kind of loses me a few times in the middle. And then I think ties it up at the end and I enjoyed it.
00:51:55
GREASEDAPOLES
I think that's weirder than blue velvet.
00:51:57
AstroDev
I agree. Mahalan Drive is more weird than Blue Velvet.
00:51:58
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, so so is Lost Highway.
00:52:00
eraserhead
Yeah, and that's what that's what I that's what I wanted.
00:52:01
AstroDev
It's not again.
00:52:02
GREASEDAPOLES
So is...
00:52:02
AstroDev
It's not that I'm like, it's so weird.
00:52:02
eraserhead
That's what I wanted to say.
00:52:04
AstroDev
I don't like it.
00:52:05
eraserhead
No, but that's that's what I was trying to say, though, is like Blue Velvet is actually pretty fucking tame compared. I mean, I've only seen a a few David Lynch movies, but like this is pretty much the tamest, easiest to follow, like most grounded one out of all of them that I've seen.
00:52:10
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
00:52:20
Steve-O
I mean, that's, I mean, Twin Peaks is probably the most, like, servable one to an audience.
00:52:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Accessible.
00:52:23
eraserhead
Right. yeah No, but like, but my my whole thing about my whole thing about Blue Velvet is that
00:52:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Actually, I think, I think I think elephant man is, I think elephant man is.
00:52:29
eraserhead
my My whole thing about Blue Velvet is that is that it it very much feels like a precursor to what Twin Peaks was on terms of like the style and the the dialogue.
00:52:30
Steve-O
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, Elephant Man. Yeah, you're right.
00:52:36
Steve-O
Hmm?
00:52:38
AstroDev
Oh, for sure, yeah.
00:52:39
Steve-O
The themes, yeah.
00:52:42
eraserhead
yeah like it
00:52:42
GREASEDAPOLES
i think I think what makes Twin Peaks accessible is it sort of regurgitates a lot of like soap opera shit that is on TV that we're all kind of accustomed to, but it adds this like weird, it's just the the weirdness is on the layer on the outside.
00:52:55
eraserhead
and then And then Bob shows up.
00:52:55
Steve-O
yeah Yeah, it's like, those are the things that keep you like coming back. is is It's those lynching pins.
00:53:02
AstroDev
yeah Yeah, exactly. Because when you see a bit, you're like, what's up with the log lady?
00:53:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:07
AstroDev
What's up with this fucking scary guy who drives a semi truck?
00:53:09
GREASEDAPOLES
It's all marginalized, sort of, you know?
00:53:10
AstroDev
Yeah, you get bits of it and it's it's fed to you a little bit over time.
00:53:11
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:53:14
AstroDev
Like I cannot stand firewalk with like I hate that. I love to in peace. I cannot fucking stay in that movie.
00:53:23
eraserhead
I don't see how you like Twin Peaks, but you didn't like Blue Velvet like that's kind of it's weird for me.
00:53:24
AstroDev
And.
00:53:28
AstroDev
I didn't I will you say I didn't lie I didn't hate it.
00:53:29
eraserhead
I think you walked in because you you told me that you told me that your fiance didn't like it beforehand and then and then you went to watch it by yourself.
00:53:31
AstroDev
It was fine. Like it's.
00:53:37
eraserhead
So I think you already you went in there already not liking it.
00:53:39
AstroDev
No, no, because she sat down and watched it with me and I basically I think she just lied to me because she was like, what?
00:53:40
eraserhead
I think that's what it was.
00:53:45
AstroDev
And I was like, I thought you said you said you saw this. And she's like, I don't remember any of this. And I was like, OK, OK, then. Like, let's.
00:53:51
Steve-O
Maybe she would meant Blue Valentine.
00:53:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Ooh.
00:53:55
eraserhead
That movie is that movie's fucking fucked.
00:53:56
AstroDev
Maybe, maybe.
00:53:58
GREASEDAPOLES
That hits in a different spot.
00:53:58
Steve-O
You got a chubbed up Ryan Gosselin.
00:53:59
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:54:02
AstroDev
Yeah, but I don't know, man. It's just there there's always a.
00:54:03
eraserhead
I can't believe you got triggered by a naked lady.
00:54:06
AstroDev
I didn't.
00:54:06
eraserhead
though and That's kinda crazy.
00:54:06
AstroDev
Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:54:07
eraserhead
It's so crazy to me.
00:54:09
AstroDev
All right.
00:54:09
eraserhead
You see one naked lady, you're like, oh my god, this movie went off the rails.
00:54:11
AstroDev
We're not.
00:54:13
eraserhead
It's not for me.
00:54:13
AstroDev
John, didn't you? Didn't you have a meltdown when you saw a pot at play and a fucking in a shelf or something?
00:54:14
eraserhead
It's wild.
00:54:18
AstroDev
We were watching Eraserhead.
00:54:19
eraserhead
What, a razor? You watch it, you tell me.
00:54:20
AstroDev
It's so weird. I can't handle it.
00:54:23
eraserhead
if no the No, the weird...
00:54:24
Steve-O
That was me and Chris when we saw a race red, too, though.
00:54:24
AstroDev
But.
00:54:26
eraserhead
No, the weird the weird thing is that the plant's not in a pot.
00:54:26
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah bar
00:54:28
AstroDev
Like, Jon thinks the movies, Jon thinks Blue Velvet's insane because he finds a fucking ear in him in a fucking mystery movie.
00:54:35
eraserhead
No, um no, I'm not saying i'm saying that that sets that that's that's the tone.
00:54:36
AstroDev
That's insane to me!
00:54:39
eraserhead
Can you let me explain, please? Can you stop talking so I can explain it?
00:54:42
AstroDev
Just saying, man.
00:54:43
eraserhead
the tree what's weird about the tree is that it's not in a pot it's just on a pile of dirt on his night table that's what's weird about it Devin he's got clumps of of leaves and dirt all over his apartment none of it's really explained it's like no but
00:54:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah Yeah, that's...
00:54:53
AstroDev
Okay.
00:54:57
AstroDev
SPOILERS! Fuckin' David Leech is weird. Fuckin'... News at 11.
00:55:02
eraserhead
Well, yeah, I mean, yeah it sounds like you were already fucking prepared for Blue Velvet and the ah you see a naked lady you fucking flip out and you freak out and you're like, this is off the rails.
00:55:09
AstroDev
if
00:55:11
eraserhead
It's not but nothing makes sense anymore.
00:55:15
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm kind of glad it made you feel that way, though, because that is kind of the point.
00:55:15
eraserhead
Oh, my God.
00:55:19
GREASEDAPOLES
You're like, what the fuck is going on? Like, that's the point you're supposed to say at the end of Bluebell, because it's like everything's going to shit.
00:55:25
AstroDev
I'm going to write Roger Deibert a letter and say, I agree with you.
00:55:25
Steve-O
Hmm.
00:55:29
AstroDev
He's a sick man.
00:55:30
eraserhead
Oh, man, he hated it, dude. he Did you watch that review of him in Cisco?
00:55:33
AstroDev
I wanted to, I didn't get a chance though, but.
00:55:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, well, fucking Roger Ebert hated the thing, too, and he's an idiot, so.
00:55:35
eraserhead
Yeah, it's so funny, dude.
00:55:39
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:55:39
eraserhead
It's so funny.
00:55:39
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:55:39
eraserhead
And Cisco was like, I loved it.
00:55:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Well. yeah
00:55:42
eraserhead
I like that it was fucking weird and depraved. Fuck you.
00:55:45
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:55:46
eraserhead
They actually were arguing, like we were arguing right now. they That's how Cisco and Iver were arguing about it.
00:55:49
AstroDev
Good.
00:55:52
AstroDev
Yeah, I just, you know, I wish I loved, I really wish I loved everything he did.
00:55:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Roger Deibert was a Pearl Clutcher, man. He's a Pearl Clutcher.
00:55:56
AstroDev
I just don't though, sadly.
00:56:00
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, listen, I'm not gonna say I love everything he's done. um I don't, but I respect the way it makes me feel, which is I think is the most important thing, right?
00:56:08
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:56:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Like he has this tendency to make the normal most normal things feel creepy. And nobody else can do that. And a lot of people try to copy it.
00:56:20
GREASEDAPOLES
A lot of people try to copy it.
00:56:21
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:56:22
GREASEDAPOLES
It's like almost every piece of strange ah yeah found footage shit that's on like YouTube with cane pixels.
00:56:31
eraserhead
Oh, but even like.
00:56:31
GREASEDAPOLES
They're all trying to capture that negative space creepy feeling that David Lynch was just a master at is nobody I could think of this better.
00:56:32
eraserhead
um
00:56:40
eraserhead
Because the fucking the fucking Royal Orbison Orbison scene, like when we even have like Tarantino or like the Coen brothers, if like that scene was never made the fucking.
00:56:50
GREASEDAPOLES
You wouldn't have Alan, Alan wake. We wouldn't have control.
00:56:53
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:56:54
AstroDev
Oh God, yeah, no.
00:56:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Like none of, none of there's so little skirt.
00:56:57
eraserhead
Yeah, devin how do you have Alan Wake? Well, you didn't like Blue Valley. That's so crazy to me. That's so weird.
00:57:02
AstroDev
I don't think that's weird at all, dude. I really that'd be like if you said Twin Peaks, I'd be like, yeah, that doesn't track, but.
00:57:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Shit. Silent Hill to.
00:57:10
AstroDev
I haven't played it.
00:57:11
eraserhead
They literally have Silent Hill 2 in the movie.
00:57:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Silent Hill. All those bo those games that's lynchy and shit like a he's done shit like that. Like it's, you gotta to respect the game at least, you know, that's all I guess we're, we agree on that much.
00:57:23
AstroDev
Oh, I respect it for sure. I just, you know.
00:57:27
eraserhead
You know, just don't put naked women in my movies, you know, and I'm OK.
00:57:31
Steve-O
I think the thing is though, like Devin at least recognizes that like it's not his like it's not his like flavor for every season.
00:57:36
GREASEDAPOLES
It's not. Yeah.
00:57:39
Steve-O
like There are definitely flavors he likes, but it's just like his not his go-to.
00:57:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. I mean, I think Tarantino is not a big fan of David Lynch. I think he's talked about that.
00:57:48
eraserhead
Even though he's he's clearly fucking inspired by some of this stuff.
00:57:52
GREASEDAPOLES
I think he can really talk, Kenny.
00:57:56
Steve-O
Mm.
00:57:58
GREASEDAPOLES
Sometimes that guy.
00:57:59
eraserhead
Yeah.
00:58:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, yeah, no, I mean, he, you know, he says, what's this, what's the point of weird for the sake of weird, you know, but I, I disagree. Cause you can say the same thing about his violence was, was deal with violence for the sake of violence.
00:58:12
AstroDev
Because it's so fun, Jam.
00:58:13
eraserhead
Yeah.
00:58:13
Steve-O
yeah
00:58:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:58:14
GREASEDAPOLES
I know, but come on. So it was weird. Weird's fun too.
00:58:18
AstroDev
Yeah.
00:58:18
GREASEDAPOLES
Like I, I, it, to say that in the same breath, you do the same thing. You exploit just as much as David Lynch does, but you do it with violence. He does it with weirdness.
00:58:27
AstroDev
Is uh, was David Bowie and Mahalan driver was that fire walk with me Yeah, like that Not to pick on that movie again, but like yeah pointless fucking pointless, dude.
00:58:30
Steve-O
Firewalk with me.
00:58:32
GREASEDAPOLES
fire walk with me.
00:58:36
eraserhead
He really ate that movie.
00:58:40
AstroDev
I will never oh Yeah, no John. There's a scene where they're in like a nightclub and they're talking and it's just like their subtitles because it's
00:58:51
eraserhead
Because you can't hear him.
00:58:53
AstroDev
Yeah, you can't hear it. And it's really badly done. And then he's like, oh yeah, I did that on purpose. And I just like threw my headphones. I was like, why? Why?
00:59:03
AstroDev
You weird man. Stop it. You know, watch it.
00:59:07
eraserhead
Well, why not, though? like why like Why is that bad? like if he's trying to if he's trying If he's trying to capture the aesthetic of the nightclub and the the you know the the atmosphere, then like let him cook.
00:59:09
GREASEDAPOLES
He drags with his gut, man.
00:59:18
AstroDev
It's. Well, I watched it and I was like, I did. I really it like in fury.
00:59:24
eraserhead
And you know you know what? that in that hearing you Hearing you say that about that movie and then telling me a couple weeks ago that you watch ah Squid Game,
00:59:25
AstroDev
i
00:59:34
eraserhead
and Fucking dubs instead of subs makes me it really tells me a lot about what how you feel how you really feel about that kind of stuff them Why how You literally said you didn't like reading subtitles in fucking nightclub scene and and two weeks ago you told me I
00:59:36
AstroDev
I. I don't I don't. John, is your back OK? Because I think you broke it ah trying to make that point.
00:59:49
AstroDev
Where were you? where Where's the logic there? Find it.
00:59:57
AstroDev
John, I literally, John, I literally have fucking subtitles on mostly everything I watch.
01:00:04
eraserhead
Yeah, but you but what i'm saying what I'm saying is two weeks ago, you told me that you fucking watched Squid Game with fucking dubbed vocals.
01:00:04
AstroDev
I'm like a subtitle guy.
01:00:11
AstroDev
No, it's because I started season one with the dub because that was like the default and I just kind of never
01:00:12
eraserhead
and that's So how's that a reach? if that If you tell me that two weeks ago and then you're complaining about subtitles now, how's that a reach?
01:00:20
AstroDev
Because, John, you know you don't know what I'm talking about with this particular scene in this movie. Like, it's not because, John, the complaint was, yeah, that's my point.
01:00:27
eraserhead
you talked about You said something about subtitles.
01:00:30
AstroDev
The complaint's not that there were subtitles. It's a weird fucking decision you made.
01:00:33
eraserhead
you're break You're breaking your back right now. You're breaking your back right now because I didn't even watch that movie.
01:00:36
AstroDev
Okay. John, watch the movie.
01:00:38
eraserhead
So you're actually breaking your back right now.
01:00:39
AstroDev
Just watch the movie, please, and tell me you loved it.
01:00:41
eraserhead
Try to tell me that I broke my back comparing two different.
01:00:43
AstroDev
Tell me you loved it, John. Watch it.
01:00:46
Steve-O
In heaven, everything is fine. In heaven.
01:00:52
GREASEDAPOLES
is it about
01:00:52
eraserhead
I mean, if you're I mean, it's fine. Like if you're it's OK, like if you're upset that you you're the only one that didn't like Blue Velvet, that's fine. It's OK.
01:01:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Steve fucking hates it That's the only yeah, that's the only one you can eat trash talk Well, you're you're a wild at heart fan right you're a big fan
01:01:00
AstroDev
Yeah, me and Quentin Parentino will be fine.
01:01:00
eraserhead
I'm.
01:01:02
Steve-O
i don't have I don't have great words about Inland Empire.
01:01:06
AstroDev
yeah How dare you? That's the best one.
01:01:09
Steve-O
ah I love the shorts though, the shorts that released online alongside of it.
01:01:17
Steve-O
I love Wild at Heart. Wild at Heart is, I think that one, Devin, you spin that one, you tell us what you think on that one. Because I think that one that one might serve you another one across the plate.
01:01:25
AstroDev
I heard, I hear good things. No, like honestly, um
01:01:27
Steve-O
Nicholas nicholas Cage is, ah oh, he's unhinged in that.
01:01:30
GREASEDAPOLES
He's unhinged in that one.
01:01:31
AstroDev
Honestly, there's there's three movies left of David Lynch that I really want to get You know in my system. It's wild at heart elephant man and um Fuck eraser head eraser head Yeah, never Yeah,
01:01:46
GREASEDAPOLES
You're gonna cry. You're gonna cry watching off, man. i'll Yeah, After he saw a racer head, he knew.
01:01:49
Steve-O
You got a cry door in a Mel Brooks movie? What? Strange facts produced by Mel Brooks.
01:01:56
AstroDev
yeah and then uh Yeah.
01:02:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Game respects game.
01:02:00
AstroDev
And then you can watch, you can watch Twin Peaks, The Return. Did any of you guys watch that?
01:02:06
Steve-O
no
01:02:06
GREASEDAPOLES
I did.
01:02:07
AstroDev
Or did you all fall off? Like I gave it like three episodes.
01:02:10
GREASEDAPOLES
No, I finished it is just, I didn't understand the single up episode.
01:02:13
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:15
GREASEDAPOLES
So yeah, no, that one I listen, but he's self-indulgent.
01:02:16
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:02:18
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:02:20
GREASEDAPOLES
That's a big thing of his, but that's the thing. His perspective is so strange that everyone's like, yeah, go ahead and do your thing. That's fucking evil.
01:02:27
AstroDev
yeah Do you think?
01:02:27
Steve-O
People want to see that, yeah.
01:02:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Want that, you know?
01:02:29
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:02:29
Steve-O
It's a selling point.
01:02:31
GREASEDAPOLES
So I, yeah, that one was who weird. Um, maybe a bit too weird for me, but I really respect the way he makes me feel when I watched it, which was just like, huh?
01:02:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Like that.
01:02:49
AstroDev
yeah
01:02:50
GREASEDAPOLES
I like that. I, man. Cause it, I like to be, he challenges me really a lot. Like when I watch, it's just like the most, one of the more challenging directors I think that is out there, you know?
01:03:05
Steve-O
Yeah, 100%. I think some of the the most interesting parts too is like, you watch his movies and then you, you it's it's just as interesting to hear him talk about the movies, to talk about the craft, to talk about the things that inspired him.
01:03:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, there's, there's just his perspective on things. It's just so like, what? look I mean, like it's, um, I, I was comparing him to, um, Junji Ito and about how like, how he is in public versus what he writes about.
01:03:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:03:33
Steve-O
a Yeah.
01:03:34
GREASEDAPOLES
And he just talks about like, Oh yeah, I used to be a dentist. You know, I didn't want to be a dentist anymore. And I wanted to do this weird shit. That's kind of the same vibe I get from David Lynch.
01:03:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Like he kind of wasn't optimist. You seemed like a happy dude. And uh, yeah, he just had a weird perspective on things that was cherished, cherished by people.
01:03:56
GREASEDAPOLES
So that's awesome. Um, is there anything else? Anything else you guys watched Steve?
TV Shows and Films Discussion
01:04:03
GREASEDAPOLES
No.
01:04:03
Steve-O
I think Severance was like the big thing. I need to get into Castlevania, Nocturne. I'm still sleeping on it.
01:04:10
AstroDev
Yeah, I heard Harley Quinn's out too. The new season.
01:04:13
GREASEDAPOLES
I watched, I watched one episode. It was pretty good.
01:04:15
AstroDev
Okay.
01:04:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Pretty good. They're going in a totally different direction.
01:04:19
Steve-O
Interesting.
01:04:19
AstroDev
Okay.
01:04:19
Steve-O
Wait, not comedy? Like what is...
01:04:22
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, no, no. Like the way the plot was going in the previous season where they were in this like, I think it was the birds of Gotham or something or the Queens of Gotham, that team breaks up immediately in the first episode. And it's just them like sitting in bed and then like not dealing with anything for like months. Because they're like weirdly depressed. That was kind of cool. Like I like that it made it more funny.
01:04:50
GREASEDAPOLES
because they're like out in their sweat pants and track suits and they got like stains all over them while they're fighting crime and shit. Like, that's pretty funny. um Yeah, it's good. First episode was good.
01:05:02
AstroDev
yeah i watched i watched some stuff i watch blue velvet obviously um i fell down an old an old old movie. Well, I don't know really why, um but I watched Presumed Innocent, which is a Harrison Ford thriller.
01:05:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Steve, you ever heard of that, John? I've never heard of that movie.
01:05:25
Steve-O
Presumed innocent.
01:05:26
AstroDev
Yeah, there's actually like they remade it into a show at Jake Gyllenhaal like last year, which I found kind of interesting, but it's Brian Dennehy. Ralph Julie is in this. He's great. Harrison Ford's in it.
01:05:41
AstroDev
Obviously, and it was just it was one of those things where I had a bunch of movies on a on a drive. And I was like, why did I download this? And I put it on and it was. I won't say it's the best movie, right? um But it was definitely caught my interest. And I was, you know, I was kind of in in it for the entirety of the movie. ah But another movie I watched just because it was kind of one of those like I've never seen this and I feel like I should and i watch Kramer versus Kramer, which pretty bummer of a movie start to finish.
01:06:19
AstroDev
That is that's the movie starring ah Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman. And just ah definitely worth your time.
01:06:30
AstroDev
I really like that movie.
01:06:32
GREASEDAPOLES
I remember the, what's it called?
01:06:32
AstroDev
Dustin Hoffman's awesome in it.
01:06:35
GREASEDAPOLES
The Zapti brothers. They had a interview and they were talking about a particular scene in Kramer versus Kramer. Cause they were, their mother and father divorced.
01:06:47
AstroDev
Okay. Oh, yeah.
01:06:49
GREASEDAPOLES
And it was like, they said they watched that scene and it was like, like watching a mirror.
01:06:54
AstroDev
Ooh.
01:06:54
GREASEDAPOLES
They said it was like perfect.
01:06:55
AstroDev
All right.
01:06:57
GREASEDAPOLES
Like I think it was Dustin Hoffman on the phone and he was trying to like cook food.
01:06:57
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah. It's.
01:07:02
GREASEDAPOLES
first kid and he was just like the whole, this is like tension was building up because everything was fucking out.
01:07:06
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:07:07
GREASEDAPOLES
I can't remember particularly, but they loved that scene.
01:07:10
AstroDev
Yeah, it's a move. Yeah, yeah, it's it's ah I don't want to say intense, but it's just it's very good. It's just funny because I think the ending of the movie hits different with modern sensibilities. um It's just kind of like. I won't spoil it, even though it came out in 1979, but ah It's just like the way the movie ends, I feel like you're supposed to feel one way about the character and you're supposed to be like, oh, what a good thing they did.
01:07:41
AstroDev
We're like watching it with modern sensibilities. I was kind of like, wow, that's a. What the fuck is wrong with this person? Like, stop it. Just like stop with the mind fuck. um But I don't know.
01:07:55
AstroDev
It was again, it was just kind of one of those movies.
01:07:56
GREASEDAPOLES
This is one thing I do, I like about when I remember watching it. It was been a while, but like the emotion felt real in that movie.
01:08:04
AstroDev
Yeah, no, I mean, again, doesn't help. It's great. Meryl Streep. Great, obviously. um It's just like. She's just sad and she's crying in every every scene, every scene. It's like she just got done crying. And I'm like, clearly, this is a choice. She's obviously very good in it, but it's like. I don't know. Like, is this all we need? Is this all we're asking, you know, of of an actress, you know, back in the late 70s?
01:08:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, then, you know, divorces, divorces don't happen when they should, right?
01:08:33
AstroDev
You know, just cry a bunch and you know, you'll you'll get it.
01:08:38
GREASEDAPOLES
And this is that what Louis CK says?
01:08:38
AstroDev
Yeah. Well, the. the
01:08:39
GREASEDAPOLES
Like a divorce doesn't happen the moment it gets bad. It's like, Oh, it's bad. Okay. Let's get a divorce. No, it's like years of terribleness.
01:08:44
AstroDev
Yeah. Well, that's that's kind of the thing, right, is like is like the movie starts with her saying I'm leaving.
01:08:48
GREASEDAPOLES
ah lead up yeah You don't get any context.
01:08:51
AstroDev
you So you don't get any of that. You don't get any. he Yeah.
01:08:54
GREASEDAPOLES
That's true.
01:08:55
AstroDev
And then she's yeah.
01:08:55
GREASEDAPOLES
Which is cool. I like that.
01:08:57
AstroDev
And then she's gone for like more than half of the movie. You really kind of just sit with Billy, the son Billy, and doesn't often scare her.
01:09:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:09:05
AstroDev
And then she pops up and then she's like, hey, I want my kid back. And I feel like the viewer isn't should it feels to me again, maybe other people have different takes, but it feels to me like the viewer should be like, that's fucking insane.
01:09:21
AstroDev
Like, no, dude, bro, you left.
Gaming Experiences and Anticipations
01:09:23
AstroDev
You left your kid.
01:09:24
GREASEDAPOLES
Absolutely.
01:09:24
AstroDev
ah And I don't know. um
01:09:28
GREASEDAPOLES
That's kind of the point of the movie.
01:09:28
AstroDev
It kind of tries to play both sides though.
01:09:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, that's a great thing about perspective in that film, right?
01:09:34
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:09:34
GREASEDAPOLES
You're only, if you watched it from her perspective, maybe you would be thinking differently.
01:09:34
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm I'm very curious if like, you know.
01:09:40
AstroDev
Right. Where she abandons her son, her son for 15 months and it says, oh, I want this kid again.
01:09:47
GREASEDAPOLES
You don't know. You don't know what the context of her leaving was, right?
01:09:48
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:09:50
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:09:50
GREASEDAPOLES
So it's like, it could be abuse, could be all these other things, verbal abuse, right?
01:09:51
AstroDev
Well, you. Well, that's the thing. You you do find out it she she was depressed because she it wasn't abuse. It wasn't adultery. It wasn't.
01:10:00
GREASEDAPOLES
That's right.
01:10:00
AstroDev
you know He was just an absent husband.
01:10:00
GREASEDAPOLES
I think you're right. That is right.
01:10:02
AstroDev
asent He was a workaholic husband. That was. And I'm not saying like that's not how dare she leave because of that. But, you know, his kind of silver bullet is he's like, bro, you abandoned your son as well as, you know, you divorce me all you want, but you abandoned your son.
01:10:20
AstroDev
Uh, but again, it's, I mean, the fact that is we're still fucking talking about it like this is, is, I think, yeah, it's a banger of a movie.
01:10:25
GREASEDAPOLES
gray movie
01:10:29
AstroDev
Uh, and then I finally closed the book on red dead too. Again, finally closed that book. I, uh, I was a little, I was a little, um, I was RP in it a little bit.
01:10:45
AstroDev
Cause like after i I rolled credits, I found Mary Beth found Tilly. went to Arthur's gravestone and then I just shut it off.
01:10:53
GREASEDAPOLES
And then he forgot the first crow. He forgot the first crow of cock. And he saw the sun and all the blood drained out of his body as he looked at the sun.
01:10:57
AstroDev
Mm hmm.
01:11:00
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:11:02
GREASEDAPOLES
And he collapsed.
01:11:02
AstroDev
Yeah, I felt like it was a very it was a very nice way to just kind of put a button on that game and I was like, oh, yeah, here it is.
01:11:03
GREASEDAPOLES
And that's the end of the Red Dead 2.
01:11:05
Steve-O
Damn.
01:11:12
AstroDev
So I saw Pearson, I forgot he was right running a store in Rhodes.
01:11:16
GREASEDAPOLES
here
01:11:16
AstroDev
And then I accidentally that accidentally pulled my gun on him and he just ran away out of the store.
01:11:16
Steve-O
Person! Dude, that's messed up.
01:11:21
AstroDev
I was like, oh, sorry, Pearson, my bad. But yeah, I'm trying to think. I don't think. Yeah, I mean, that was it. And I'm finally fucking finally read the two's great legitimately, like objectively, I think a really great game.
01:11:40
AstroDev
It's a long game, though. So I'm kind of I'm kind of glad I can just kind of put it aside and start something that happened as if like I had to.
01:11:41
eraserhead
to the best game ever made.
01:11:49
AstroDev
right I could have fucking put it down at any point. So it was my fault, really. But ah yeah, now we're on the Silent Hill, too. And I can tell you how spooky it is. And I can talk about how great it is because I've never played Silent Hill.
01:12:02
AstroDev
So.
01:12:03
eraserhead
Well, I'll tell you this, if you didn't like Blue Velvet, you might not like Silent Hill 2.
01:12:06
AstroDev
Oh, no, dude.
01:12:09
eraserhead
I'll leave it there.
01:12:10
AstroDev
I don't know. I don't know. Silent Hill as much credit. I'm saying this. I might be really talking to my ass, but this much credit that Silent Hill gets in terms of the mind fuckery.
01:12:22
AstroDev
I don't really think it compares to how off the walls. David Lynch can get a David Lynch Silent Hill game.
01:12:29
Steve-O
I do believe that Silent Hill 2 was very much inspired was inspired by Lost Highway. I remember seeing that all the time.
01:12:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Oh yeah.
01:12:38
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:12:39
GREASEDAPOLES
I could feel that.
01:12:40
eraserhead
I will then I'll maybe I'll maybe I'll like Lost Highway then. Well, because the scene in Blue Bell is literally they literally take that from from in in Silent Hill 2.
01:12:50
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:12:51
eraserhead
Like plagiarize that scene, the closet scene.
01:12:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Listen, it's, yeah. All that, that those themes of loneliness and creepiness, it's dude, he's, he nailed that every time, even in the movies and TV shows.
01:13:01
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:13:02
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't like events like yeah.
01:13:04
eraserhead
Like watching watching a sexual assault happen from the closet happens in Silent Hill 2 as well.
01:13:07
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
01:13:09
AstroDev
Yeah, when Frank Bruce brings in the giant sword, drags it all the way with him.
01:13:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he's got a big sword.
01:13:17
AstroDev
Yeah, he's got a big sword.
01:13:18
GREASEDAPOLES
Incia, the lead scene.
01:13:18
AstroDev
But where he he huffs, he huffs all that.
01:13:19
Steve-O
I mean, to be fair, that's like the oxygen tank.
01:13:21
AstroDev
He huffs all that oxygen tank out of his his head.
01:13:22
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah That's his nitrous oxide.
01:13:22
Steve-O
That's that's his big sword. Yeah.
01:13:25
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:13:26
Steve-O
e
01:13:27
eraserhead
Apparently, that was supposed to be helium, allegedly.
01:13:27
AstroDev
Right.
01:13:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Helium.
01:13:31
AstroDev
Yeah, but his voice didn't get high.
01:13:31
eraserhead
And and Frank Booth, or not Frank Booth, but Dennis Hopper was like, I don't know if that's going to work, because it changes your voice. So he's like, I don't think I could do helium.
01:13:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Interesting.
01:13:39
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:13:39
Steve-O
You remember me, Eddie?
01:13:41
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
01:13:42
AstroDev
And that would have been my favorite movie of all time.
01:13:43
eraserhead
So then he um then he he brought up the idea of of nitrogen or nitrous oxide or whatever it was.
01:13:45
AstroDev
and
01:13:50
eraserhead
And David Lynch didn't even know what that was, apparently.
01:13:51
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:13:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, sweet summer child.
01:13:53
eraserhead
He's like, well, look it up.
01:13:54
Steve-O
He's like, you talking about Nas?
01:13:55
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:13:56
Steve-O
You talking about Nas, the thing I have in my car?
01:13:57
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:13:57
eraserhead
Yeah, whatever, whatever, yeah yeah whatever attack he was inhaling there.
01:14:00
GREASEDAPOLES
ah a a A favorite of Steve-O from Jackass, actually.
01:14:01
AstroDev
Yeah, there you
01:14:04
GREASEDAPOLES
He loved nitrous oxide.
01:14:04
Steve-O
a
01:14:06
AstroDev
go.
01:14:07
Steve-O
He's clean now, though.
01:14:07
AstroDev
But yeah, I told Jenny, I told Jenny, it's Frank Booth and Isabelle is going to be, it's going to be our Halloween costume, couple's costume.
01:14:08
Steve-O
He's clean now.
01:14:08
GREASEDAPOLES
He's clean
01:14:20
AstroDev
Pass blue ribbon.
01:14:22
Steve-O
I rolled credits on a game that I played two years ago, stopped playing, and then I said, you know what, I'm gonna restart that game, and that game is Pokemon Legends Arceus.
01:14:29
AstroDev
Whoa, can I guess? Fuck.
01:14:31
Steve-O
No, you can't, because I just said it, sorry.
01:14:31
AstroDev
Never mind.
01:14:33
eraserhead
why you Why are you playing that game, Steve? Why?
01:14:35
Steve-O
Because I never beat it, and I was in a Pokemon move, and that was the thing.
01:14:35
eraserhead
why What?
01:14:38
eraserhead
You were in a Pokemon, Pokemon vibes.
01:14:39
Steve-O
So so Legends Arceus came out at the beginning of 2022.
01:14:39
AstroDev
man
01:14:43
AstroDev
That's the that's like the one that was like kind of pseudo Scotland, right or something.
01:14:47
Steve-O
No, that was Sword Shield.
01:14:48
eraserhead
Now, this is like open world.
01:14:49
AstroDev
Oh, sort of.
01:14:49
eraserhead
It's like open.
01:14:50
Steve-O
Now that was the open world game that was about like, it was like a, it was like a prequel.
01:14:50
eraserhead
It's like overworld.
01:14:55
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:14:56
Steve-O
It was like your character kind of got thrown into like Pokemon history. And it was like, people loved it.
01:15:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Is it a football?
01:15:01
Steve-O
It got like nineties and stuff like that.
01:15:03
AstroDev
It just rained like shit, right?
01:15:04
Steve-O
But the thing is. No, I mean, it ran decently. The thing is, later that year, like literally several months, like September, October, that's when they released the new generation of Pokemon.
01:15:08
AstroDev
Okay.
01:15:15
AstroDev
Hmm.
01:15:16
Steve-O
So they kind of just like got swept under the rug while everybody was like, we're playing the new one. That's like the so one that matters. And I just I never got to finish it. And I got to finish it.
01:15:27
Steve-O
I rolled credits on it. and I was like, ah you know what? That was a good game. You know, it's definitely messy in points, but way better than the the one that came out later that year, because it talks about like kind of just like it factors in death a lot, which is real weird. It's dark it's dark for a Pokemon game because it's it takes place at a time where they're like Pokemon are monsters. These things are trying to kill us. We are terrified. ah There is a mission where you have to save a child from a drift loom because drift loom in their in their stories. ah What they do is they convince children of their balloons and then they just jettison them into the sky.
01:16:02
Steve-O
So it it plays on those dark like Pokemon things that are that are kind of neat.
01:16:07
AstroDev
You know, you know,
01:16:08
Steve-O
And I enjoyed it.
01:16:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Balloon children, you say?
01:16:09
Steve-O
No, no, no, the children aren't balloons. the balloon They are Pokemon that look like balloons that just steal children.
01:16:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, last I was almost really offended.
01:16:18
AstroDev
you know I, Steve, I know why, I know why you did this, but I just think about like all those other games that you started and then didn't finish that were much better.
01:16:18
Steve-O
ah Yes.
01:16:22
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:16:27
Steve-O
You know, I'm going to start doing that for every game you guys play.
01:16:30
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah
01:16:31
Steve-O
If I can play Red Dead 2 seven years ago, thats so that's a movie more than a game.
01:16:35
AstroDev
Yeah, no, that's and that's what I'm saying. Like, like I was like, I was you were saying that and I was like, oh, my God, he finally played God of War Ragnarok.
01:16:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Uh,
01:16:42
AstroDev
And they were like, Pokemon. And I was like, I mean, I don't know.
01:16:44
eraserhead
Did that come out two years ago, God of War?
01:16:46
Steve-O
Gotta work.
01:16:47
AstroDev
I'm just years.
01:16:47
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:47
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah years ago.
01:16:48
Steve-O
It came out that same year.
01:16:50
AstroDev
Yeah. I was even like maybe talk about Spider-Man.
01:16:51
Steve-O
Came out that same year.
01:16:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Steve, you should play Final Fantasy seven rebirth.
01:16:54
AstroDev
Maybe just any.
01:16:55
eraserhead
um
01:16:57
AstroDev
Yeah, maybe maybe rebirth.
01:16:58
Steve-O
It just came out on PC.
01:16:59
AstroDev
Yeah, maybe rebirth.
01:17:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Play that.
01:17:01
Steve-O
I watched 30 minutes of a stream and it decided to say, hey, good stuff.
01:17:01
GREASEDAPOLES
it goes like that
01:17:05
eraserhead
Yeah, I thought that i thought that was the ah ah thought that was the the the speed bump for you, if if it's on so PC or not. But then you broke out the switch and played ah
01:17:13
Steve-O
Well, the thing is i have i have my switch hooked I have the switch hooked up to my ah computer.
01:17:14
eraserhead
Pokemon game that not everybody like Dude
01:17:19
Steve-O
i can I can do that easily.
01:17:20
AstroDev
Steve's taking monster dumps and he's like, I better be playing some Pokemon while I'm doing this.
01:17:25
Steve-O
Pokemon's easy.
01:17:25
eraserhead
I don't even know where mine I don't even know where my Nintendo switch is to be honest Yeah,
01:17:25
AstroDev
That's one.
01:17:26
Steve-O
Pokemon you can be thoughtless about.
01:17:28
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:17:30
AstroDev
Well, Steve, just.
01:17:31
Steve-O
Well, you've got a new one coming soon. Just get that.
01:17:34
eraserhead
but I'm gonna have to transfer all the stuff over if it's I've honest I have no idea where it is
01:17:36
AstroDev
Yeah, wait, you don't know where it is. Damn.
01:17:39
Steve-O
Well, now you got the steam deck.
01:17:40
AstroDev
You scream at your son until he tells you where he hit it.
01:17:41
Steve-O
That's just the switch replacement.
01:17:45
AstroDev
Because you know it's probably what?
01:17:45
eraserhead
It's probably Sam. Sam yeah was the last one to use it, to be honest.
01:17:47
AstroDev
Oh my. Scream at your wife until she tells you where it is.
01:17:50
Steve-O
Where is it? Where are the drugs?
01:17:51
AstroDev
Where the fuck's my switch?
01:17:52
GREASEDAPOLES
We wasn't she playing Hogwarts on it you told me that right
01:17:53
AstroDev
Yeah, just.
01:17:56
eraserhead
Not on Switch.
01:17:57
GREASEDAPOLES
oh it' sounds switch
01:17:58
eraserhead
That would make a Switch explode, that game, probably.
01:18:01
AstroDev
you Yeah, yeah, that'd be. Yeah, it's pretty looking game.
01:18:08
Steve-O
Switch to release game.
01:18:10
GREASEDAPOLES
i
01:18:11
eraserhead
Oh, it might be. No, actually, no, that game, no, no, that game did come out on switch Hogwarts legacy.
01:18:13
AstroDev
Yeah, well.
01:18:13
Steve-O
Was it like a cloud game, one of those weird ones?
01:18:16
AstroDev
Is it really? Oh, oh, that's right. No, it looks it's like.
01:18:19
eraserhead
But it looks like ass, like it looks like hot garbage on it.
01:18:21
AstroDev
Yeah, like, because yeah, I think the thing is, is like.
01:18:21
Steve-O
Oh.
01:18:23
eraserhead
It came out like six months after the it came out for the other consoles.
01:18:24
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, it's not on Twitch.
01:18:27
AstroDev
Yeah, because ah isn't it when you go outside like it's you're only outside, it's like a loading screen as opposed to.
01:18:32
eraserhead
Yeah, like rendering.
01:18:33
Steve-O
Oh, it's like it's you got to.
01:18:34
AstroDev
Yeah, it's sectioned off and and like, you know, there's 10 polygons on the 10 trees in the whole fucking forest. And all that.
01:18:42
GREASEDAPOLES
That's all I need.
01:18:43
Steve-O
Dude, that thing that thing is a 2012 console wrapped in a 2017 package.
01:18:43
eraserhead
Yeah.
01:18:46
AstroDev
Yeah, no, listen, I.
01:18:48
Steve-O
so
01:18:49
AstroDev
I still I still think Hogwarts probably, ah you know, whatever legacy game like it's called, that's like three hours, first three hours in a game I played in a long time.
01:19:01
AstroDev
I was just enthralled with everything about that that game.
01:19:02
Steve-O
Well, I don't know, man.
01:19:04
eraserhead
What ah Hogwarts?
01:19:05
AstroDev
Yeah. like Once you get the Hogwarts, I was like, this is fucking magical.
01:19:09
Steve-O
I don't know, man.
01:19:09
eraserhead
You know, I could say the same thing about Phantom Liberty the
Cyberpunk 2077 Updates
01:19:13
Steve-O
I could say the same thing about Balatro.
01:19:13
eraserhead
first three hours of that.
01:19:13
AstroDev
What?
01:19:13
GREASEDAPOLES
mmm right not right he's not he's not he's not kidding the fact he's not wrong well when you emulate escape from New York I mean i dude I want to play that
01:19:16
AstroDev
Oh my God.
01:19:17
eraserhead
Once you get Chris, once you get the dog down, once you get the dog down, it just.
01:19:18
Steve-O
Dude, dude.
01:19:23
eraserhead
He's not ready.
01:19:23
Steve-O
He's not wrong, he's not wrong. Dude, that was kind of telling when chris when Chris changed his entire tone on the game again.
01:19:31
eraserhead
That's what I'm saying, dude.
01:19:35
eraserhead
It really is like that.
01:19:36
Steve-O
ah Chris was like, I'm never going back, I'm never going back. And it's like, Chris, what's it like to be back? And he's like, I'm loving it.
01:19:43
GREASEDAPOLES
that's even I was man I really I I didn't play it since it came out really how long ago was that four years ago five
01:19:43
AstroDev
Yeah, Chris, you were ah you were a certified hater, dude.
01:19:44
eraserhead
Yeah.
01:19:46
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:19:48
eraserhead
Well, no, he didn't you didn't but you didn't know you didn't really it wasn't like.
01:19:55
eraserhead
Yeah.
01:19:56
Steve-O
The five almost.
01:19:57
eraserhead
Yeah, so that's why I think Devin's well, I think that was actually really going to like it, especially since he's a Witcher laser, since you're a Witcher gla like you bop and twirl on that on that thing on Witcher three.
01:20:01
AstroDev
No, I yeah.
01:20:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Let me tell you Devin, it's, it's, um, the little tweaks they make. Like the big problem that I always ran into was they tied armor to clothing in the original cyberpunk, which was so fucking dumb.
01:20:17
AstroDev
Yeah, stupid. Yeah.
01:20:20
GREASEDAPOLES
So instead what they did is they just tied it to your cyberware.
01:20:23
eraserhead
transmog it yeah, and the trend and you transmog it um oh Yeah, you yeah, you don't get you don't get armor from clothes anymore You tran you transmog yeah, it's really
01:20:23
Steve-O
That makes so much more sense.
01:20:24
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:20:25
GREASEDAPOLES
So all your armor is based on the cool cyberware that you're buying and upgrading, which you can upgrade. And it has it adds attribute points. It adds all these other like little little modifiers to everything.
01:20:35
AstroDev
Mm hmm.
01:20:39
GREASEDAPOLES
that You can change those when you upgrade them.
01:20:39
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:20:42
GREASEDAPOLES
All that stuff is new. like All of it, the whole thing.
01:20:45
Steve-O
It's interesting.
01:20:45
AstroDev
Yeah, like I'll be honest, too, it's like because Witcher like it is tied to your armor. But like eventually, like pretty quickly, you find Witcher gear, which is like, oh, this is the gear I'm going to be wearing.
01:20:58
eraserhead
This is what you want to wear.
01:21:00
AstroDev
And then there's different there's like the cat school, the bear school, wolf like there's different types.
01:21:00
eraserhead
This is what you want to wear.
01:21:06
AstroDev
So essentially you're either mixing and matching Witcher year or that. So it's like. Okay, cool. And it I remember trying to play, you know, cyberpunk and I was like, Oh my God, I look like a fucking like you only kind of look like an idiot for the first like few hours of Witcher 3.
01:21:17
eraserhead
Yeah, you kind of look like a goofball at the time.
01:21:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, I had great clothing on in the first few hours of Cyberpunk 2077.
01:21:22
eraserhead
Yeah.
01:21:25
eraserhead
But it wasn't optimal. But it wasn't an optimal.
01:21:27
GREASEDAPOLES
No, no, no, my dick was out for three hours playing that game.
01:21:29
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:21:30
eraserhead
Yeah.
01:21:30
Steve-O
i remember you saying that
01:21:31
AstroDev
You know, I'm telling you right now that the the biggest the biggest thing that I've run into and it's it's really a me. It's definitely a me problem. But like there's that like hacking minigame, which is basically Sudoku and like my brain doesn't understand it.
01:21:45
eraserhead
Evan, there's an app.
01:21:46
GREASEDAPOLES
That is so easy though.
01:21:46
eraserhead
There's an app out where you can where you can take ah yeah when you could take ah there's an app you can take a picture of it and it'll solve it for you.
01:21:48
GREASEDAPOLES
and
01:21:49
AstroDev
I.
01:21:52
AstroDev
Yeah, dude, I like.
01:21:52
eraserhead
You just pause it and you do it.
01:21:54
GREASEDAPOLES
so easy i look like i fucked up a single one of those in my entire free rod playthrough no yeah well when the um when
01:21:54
AstroDev
I'll be honest, like, but dude, I get so mad because I'm like, how do I not understand this?
01:21:54
eraserhead
Somebody made an app and it'll do it.
01:22:01
AstroDev
Dude, I looked because I was in the tutorial and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I do not understand what's happening. I was getting so upset with myself.
01:22:09
eraserhead
Now, Chris, you get to the point where sometimes like getting all of them isn't really the optimal choice. But you have to do it because cause because you're your ego.
01:22:21
GREASEDAPOLES
for the the ammo drops or the whatever, the the drops in Dogtown. Like you have to do that to open them.
01:22:29
eraserhead
Yeah.
01:22:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Right. You have to do a little crack in the code and then then it's fine. I don't because the whole thing is you're trying to line up the numbers. So you're always you're getting the next number in the row or column.
01:22:40
GREASEDAPOLES
You know, I just really.
01:22:41
eraserhead
Yeah, that's all it is, Devin. Maybe you're over overthinking it.
01:22:43
AstroDev
by
01:22:44
GREASEDAPOLES
It's really simple.
01:22:45
eraserhead
I don't know, dude.
01:22:46
GREASEDAPOLES
It's just once you figure it out, it clicks your out.
01:22:46
AstroDev
dude Dude I Know it's just like Math was never my strong suit, but and and I know I know it's not math I know it's not math But it's like I look at it and my brain just like it's like not doesn't fucking compute dude so I know one day or I'll just take pictures.
01:22:52
GREASEDAPOLES
It doesn't do a math.
01:22:53
eraserhead
It's not even math. It's numbers. It's numbers.
01:23:03
GREASEDAPOLES
It, the game itself, the shooting is better.
01:23:05
AstroDev
I'll take pictures with the app because it's Yeah
01:23:08
GREASEDAPOLES
The driving still, it's not great, but like once you get great cars in the game, like I have like literally the car from blade. with machine guns on it and shit.
01:23:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Like that thing handles perfectly, it drives wonderfully.
01:23:19
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:23:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Like there is like a level where cars, the cars you get are in the beginning are awful. They're just, they handle awfully.
01:23:30
AstroDev
Oh, yeah.
01:23:31
GREASEDAPOLES
They slide everywhere. It's just a mess.
01:23:32
AstroDev
I had one car and I was like, OK.
01:23:34
GREASEDAPOLES
But you get a motorcycle. That's really, you know, obviously, and you know, first person motorcycle funny, like that's really works.
01:23:38
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:23:43
eraserhead
You just get the Akira motorcycle.
01:23:43
GREASEDAPOLES
I always, Yeah, I got that.
01:23:45
eraserhead
You're good.
01:23:46
AstroDev
No, I mix. a Listen, let me let me beat something up to I'll get all 16 and it'll take me like 12 hours.
01:23:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Long story short, there's a lot of good changes.
01:23:52
eraserhead
um
01:23:52
AstroDev
and lama
01:23:54
GREASEDAPOLES
A lot of good changes. There really is.
01:23:56
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:23:58
GREASEDAPOLES
It's made a lot of good changes.
01:23:58
AstroDev
I'm into it.
01:23:58
eraserhead
No, get beat sound level two and then get your PS5 Pro and then play Cyberpunk on your PS5 Pro.
01:24:04
Steve-O
Is the pro out?
01:24:05
eraserhead
And 4K. 4K 60 frames.
01:24:07
AstroDev
Uh, the pros out there cyber or there's no cyberpunk pro patch because they said they're not going to bother.
01:24:07
GREASEDAPOLES
oh
01:24:12
eraserhead
Oh, there's not?
01:24:13
AstroDev
No, they said, no, we're, we're, we're good. We've worked a enough on this fucking game.
01:24:18
eraserhead
But another patch just came out for Cyberpunk.
01:24:21
AstroDev
And know yeah, but like, yeah, but to be fair, to be fair though, the Witcher like pro patch or whatever, or the PS five patch on the Witcher three, like took them like a year to fix.
01:24:21
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, 2.2.
01:24:21
Steve-O
Yeah, they keep putting patches on.
01:24:33
AstroDev
And they were like, probably like, you know, what is fucking is just like it was a graphically fucked up.
01:24:35
Steve-O
Why'd they have to fix it?
01:24:39
AstroDev
This shit was funky.
01:24:41
Steve-O
Is their main team like shit?
01:24:41
AstroDev
I don't.
01:24:43
Steve-O
And then they have like a B team that like works on the fixing the shit teams problems.
01:24:45
AstroDev
ah Well, I think honestly. Honestly, it was just like they were trying to, you know, it's like they just took this game and that you can't.
01:24:56
AstroDev
It's very clear you can't just switch the sliders off and it just looks better.
01:24:59
Steve-O
Right.
01:25:00
AstroDev
Like they were like.
01:25:00
GREASEDAPOLES
it's like zap branigan and there's the guy who he works with like zap branigan is the main cd project red group and then the other guy what does he say zip he's the guy has to fix it yeah dude this is a serious glitch
01:25:04
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:25:05
Steve-O
ah Yeah, he does all the work.
01:25:07
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:25:10
Steve-O
e
01:25:11
AstroDev
who Yeah, they were just like, dude, oh, fucking no. Like, there I don't know, like everything was really blurry forever. And there was a point where. Almost close to the penis ah glitch, Chris, but instead of a penis, it was a hammer, like a hammer just would not leave the screen.
01:25:33
AstroDev
We say, what the fuck, dude?
01:25:35
GREASEDAPOLES
ah Well, I will say it's still It
01:25:35
AstroDev
So I think they saw that and they're like, let's, Cyberpunk's in a good spot. Let's not break it again with a fucking pro patch.
01:25:41
GREASEDAPOLES
isn't still a little buggy like you get some weird shit But like that shit I'm used to in like Bethesda games, you know, basically see project grad is a new Bethesda and I'm okay with it I Mean listen when you crave the world as much as I do, I guess you're you're able to look past some shit
01:25:44
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:25:47
AstroDev
Oh yeah.
01:25:50
Steve-O
Have we been trained? We've been trained that like a partially broken game ain't that bad.
01:25:57
AstroDev
Maybe.
01:26:03
Steve-O
That's the thing. It sounds like they fixed like a majority of the actual like gameplay problems. Like that was like kind of the key stuff where, you know, you're playing it and you're like, oh they could have done this better.
01:26:15
Steve-O
And then they went and did. So good on them.
01:26:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, polish it up.
01:26:19
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:26:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Great game, really fun.
01:26:21
AstroDev
You guys, anybody watch that Xbox thing, the direct they
Xbox Direct Event Highlights
01:26:26
AstroDev
did.
01:26:26
GREASEDAPOLES
a
01:26:26
Steve-O
Uh, I watched, I think some of it. I watched midway through and I did a, I did a yes when I saw the game that I picked for the fantasy draft look pretty good.
01:26:35
AstroDev
Oh, the Claire obscure game.
01:26:37
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:26:38
AstroDev
Yeah, it does look good. um I have a weird I don't even know if it's a weird complaint. I don't like the art style of the characters.
01:26:48
Steve-O
Hey, that's fair, but also counterpoint it's a budget title.
01:26:49
AstroDev
They all look the same like if. OK.
01:26:53
Steve-O
It's 50 bucks, 50 bucks.
01:26:53
GREASEDAPOLES
it's boge table
01:26:54
AstroDev
Oh, is it really? Because the plot's sick, Chris, this is the plot. ah Basically, some fucking God, God like being put up a giant monolith and put a number on it.
01:27:11
AstroDev
And then every year that number goes down and everybody who's that age fucking just disappears.
01:27:17
Steve-O
Wait, it just, the number goes down or it changes?
01:27:17
AstroDev
So now they're on like No, they say every year it goes down one.
01:27:20
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a budget table.
01:27:22
AstroDev
It's like a countdown or maybe change.
01:27:24
GREASEDAPOLES
This sounds like, you know what this sounds like?
01:27:24
AstroDev
I don't know. But the point is.
01:27:25
GREASEDAPOLES
This sounds like the world ends with you.
01:27:28
AstroDev
Yeah, but the point is, is like they're on. So and then they have these expeditions to go and try to figure what it is or stop it.
01:27:34
GREASEDAPOLES
Is this Japanese?
01:27:35
AstroDev
No, it's like Frank.
01:27:36
Steve-O
No, it's French?
01:27:37
AstroDev
Yeah, Frank.
01:27:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Whoa, interesting.
01:27:37
Steve-O
Yeah, French.
01:27:39
AstroDev
Yeah, it's strange. But ah but yeah, so you're playing an expedition 33. So everybody. above the age of 33 has been fucking like disintegrated or dust like something happens to them, right?
01:27:51
AstroDev
They all died.
01:27:51
Steve-O
ah Sucks to suck, dude.
01:27:53
AstroDev
But like in terms of the actual like character design, I'm like, I don't hate it. But like if you put a if you just had a God, what the hell is the word?
01:28:03
GREASEDAPOLES
All bunch of hot 33 year olds.
01:28:05
AstroDev
No, no, what's the word I'm looking for? ah Silhouettes. If you had silhouettes of the i like I don't think I'd be able to tell who's who. And like they're all just kind of wearing like tattered uniforms and they have like weird bony robot arms, I think.
01:28:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Cool.
01:28:21
AstroDev
Doesn't look bad.
01:28:22
GREASEDAPOLES
What's this called?
01:28:22
AstroDev
Looks good.
01:28:22
Steve-O
it's also This is also a Steam game, too. so it's It's called ClaireLune Expedition 33.
01:28:25
AstroDev
PS5 game to.
01:28:26
GREASEDAPOLES
What is this called?
01:28:28
AstroDev
Claire Obscura. Oh.
01:28:31
Steve-O
You can just look up Expedition 33.
01:28:32
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, Expedition 33. Well, they'll get you where you go.
01:28:36
Steve-O
um
01:28:36
AstroDev
ah
01:28:36
Steve-O
But that that got me excited, because that was the game I picked.
01:28:38
AstroDev
Now, what? ah
01:28:40
Steve-O
John was like, auto-draft. And I was like, no, you colored me out for looking at the top of the list.
01:28:43
AstroDev
Steve, Steve, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. you When you told me what this was, I i thought i thought this was like another Genshin Impact game.
01:28:48
Steve-O
Dude, I didn't know nothing. I didn't knew nothing.
01:28:52
Steve-O
I quickly looked it up before I picked it, and I was like, this actually looks pretty good, so.
01:28:57
GREASEDAPOLES
What kind of game is it?
01:28:58
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:28:58
GREASEDAPOLES
like What is it?
01:28:59
Steve-O
It's like RPG.
01:28:59
AstroDev
it's It's like a Persona 5 looking RPG.
01:29:00
GREASEDAPOLES
RPG?
01:29:03
AstroDev
Like turn-based, legit.
01:29:04
Steve-O
Here, i'll i'll send you I'll send you some ah some stuff.
01:29:05
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:29:06
Steve-O
I'll send you some materials, Chris.
01:29:07
AstroDev
ah So on top of that, they and these are all like developer like directs. So like these are all like each game had like a 10 minute. This is what we're doing and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, it's definitely canned for sure. Some of the language, but like you got a good look at the game. So there was that there was Ninja Gaiden four, which is a team effort by Team Ninja and Platinum games. And I don't know what kind of platinum we're going to get because You know, there's.
01:29:37
eraserhead
I mean, they're all kind of... men I mean, except for Bayonetta, I guess, right? Like, what else have they done?
01:29:41
AstroDev
ah Near Automata, which is like the the game, in my opinion, from them, and it's awesome. But I don't know if he's to work.
01:29:53
AstroDev
Is he even with the company anymore?
01:29:55
Steve-O
I don't know.
01:29:55
AstroDev
ah The guy who did near who's now, of course, now his name, I cannot fucking think of.
01:30:00
Steve-O
The guy with the moon for a head.
01:30:02
AstroDev
Yeah, the guy was a creator, what is his name? Yoko Taro.
01:30:06
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:30:06
AstroDev
um Yeah, I don't even know if he's still with them or not, but it's just like.
01:30:13
AstroDev
He's an odd dude, but he's that game fucking rules, but that's that's because the comments really good and the story is crazy.
01:30:23
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:30:23
AstroDev
um Things guy never really had much of a story. Not going to say for can't have a good story, but it's like, you know, whatever.
01:30:32
Steve-O
I'm interested in seeing the take on Ninja Gaiden now, because I feel like back in the day when Xbox came out.
01:30:37
AstroDev
I don't, yeah, I wonder if it's going to play like, like the others.
01:30:42
Steve-O
Yeah, because it's like people people were like Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox is like the hardest game ever.
01:30:47
AstroDev
It fucking is. Have you ever played it?
01:30:49
Steve-O
Yeah, no, no, I remember like playing it and being like this dude, this first level is hard.
01:30:51
AstroDev
Yeah, I could, I could never get past the boss in the demo. I was like, this is brutal.
01:30:56
Steve-O
The tutorial. um
01:30:58
AstroDev
Yeah. I'm just at the tutorial level. Uh, yeah, dude, the fucking brutal, uh,
01:31:02
Steve-O
But like, is that going to be like, you know, because, you know, Elden Rings Dark Soul, are people going to look at this and be like, this is kind of like maybe they're kind of taking it down that avenue because they know, like, you know, gamers are down for the difficulty jump now.
01:31:16
AstroDev
I mean, I don't because it's like I don't think Ninja Gaiden Gaiden, right? Because they also shadow dropped black to or to black or whatever.
01:31:25
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:31:26
AstroDev
Like, I don't know if that game plays like a. Platinum game, right? Platinum games all kind of play. There's a feel to it. There's a vibe to it. And it's not ultra difficult.
01:31:38
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:31:38
AstroDev
Like I've never played Sekiro, but I'd say Ninja Gaiden is closer to Sekiro than it is like a Elden Ring or Soulsborne type game. But I don't know. It's just ah honestly, my my issue is that Platinum's doing it and I don't know what kind of platinum we're going to get.
01:31:57
Steve-O
It's very weird because they'll be like, hit, miss, hit, miss, miss, hit, hit, miss, miss, hit, missed.
01:32:02
AstroDev
The combat look good. You're not going to lie. ah Yeah.
01:32:05
Steve-O
They don't mess with combat, their combat's.
01:32:07
AstroDev
Which actually, ironically, brings me to south of midnight.
Upcoming Games and Concerns
01:32:13
AstroDev
Which is one of my games, I picked on my draft and I'm actually cooling off on that game a little bit.
01:32:20
AstroDev
I think the story like it's an interesting look. It's kind of got like a twenty twenty FPS kind of like claymation style like style.
01:32:29
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:32:30
AstroDev
I don't know claymation, but it's yeah, the frame rate is definitely like choppy on purpose. It's got that aesthetic.
01:32:37
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:32:37
AstroDev
Um, but like when they were in combat, I'm like, this looks bad or it looks very pedestrian granite. This could be just because seconds before I just watched n Ninja Ninja Gaiden nonsense.
01:32:50
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:32:50
AstroDev
So like, I, I don't know. It just kind of looked a little meh to me.
01:32:55
Steve-O
This was a game that when I found it, it was by compulsion games. I kind of got weary of because I bit big on their first game. Um, we happy few.
01:33:07
AstroDev
Oh, yeah.
01:33:08
Steve-O
I was so excited for we happy few. And then I remember playing the early access of it and I was like, Oh, y'all made just like some weird like survival crafting game.
01:33:12
AstroDev
You know, that game's a lie. Like I still I'm like, you just lied to everyone.
01:33:19
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:33:20
AstroDev
You do what the fuck you were doing.
01:33:20
GREASEDAPOLES
You think they're gonna do it again?
01:33:22
AstroDev
No, this is in play.
01:33:22
Steve-O
I don't think they're going to do it again, but
01:33:23
GREASEDAPOLES
They're gonna lie again?
01:33:25
Steve-O
It definitely, it definitely they they have a problem with the game they are selling versus the game they are making.
01:33:31
GREASEDAPOLES
I do like it sometimes when games lie to me though, like inscription.
01:33:32
AstroDev
Yeah, but this.
01:33:37
AstroDev
Yeah, but yeah, but like the trailer for inscription was like a first-person shooter Then you played it and you're like who what
01:33:37
Steve-O
Inscription, yeah, no, that's that's good stuff.
01:33:45
Steve-O
That would be a fun thing to do where it's like the best parts when games lied to you.
01:33:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, yeah, dude, I love that Doki Doki Literature Club best liars I mean finish it and i finished That's it
01:33:50
Steve-O
Because like I'm thinking of like Metal Gear Solid 2,
01:33:51
AstroDev
i yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're this is the wrong kind of line like we have a few made it seem like it was gonna be Bioshock All right, yeah, you can send
01:33:54
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:33:59
Steve-O
Let us sit on this. um want I want to kind of come up with a little list with you guys at some point about the best the best time games have lied to you for the better.
01:34:07
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:34:09
Steve-O
Not the best liars in gaming.
01:34:10
AstroDev
And then, uh, yeah. And then after that, you know, after south of midnight, we got to, or, you know, after these three games, they end on doom, the dark ages, which I still think looks really good.
01:34:23
AstroDev
Uh, I do feel some sort of way about them removing the gory kills. I understand.
01:34:29
Steve-O
That's some of the best part. That's some of the best part though.
01:34:30
AstroDev
Well, yeah, but some people,
01:34:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Where's the slide whistle?
01:34:33
Steve-O
Oh, hold on.
01:34:33
AstroDev
Here's the thing though. Yeah, yeah, there it is. Uh, but here's the thing. Some people hate the kills, those gory kills because they're like, well, they're like, yo, I'm, I'm moving, I'm strafing, I'm jumping, I'm diving.
01:34:40
Steve-O
Too gory.
01:34:46
AstroDev
And then I just do a can animation.
01:34:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh.
01:34:48
AstroDev
And listen, I get it. Like you rip one eyeball out. You do it 75 more times. You probably get a little tired of it. Personally, I never did.
01:34:57
GREASEDAPOLES
so and you're all
01:34:57
AstroDev
So they got rid of that, right?
01:34:59
GREASEDAPOLES
You're also grabbing the monster or demon and you blaring the music, the soundtrack music in his ears that you're listening to.
01:35:03
AstroDev
Yeah, like it it all. Yeah, to me, it was very fitting. Yeah. But so instead, now all those types of kills are like contextual kills. So it's like, oh, here's like a purple circle. Oh, here's like a yellow circle. And then like you hate them with the flail or you punch them or you kick them or you just, you know, you do whatever. And then they just kind of like but they just like fall over and die. And I'm like.
01:35:28
AstroDev
That is not the visceral vibe that I like.
01:35:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Listen.
01:35:32
AstroDev
You know, I like so jumping on your fucking thing and digging my arm into your eyeball and ripping it out to me. That's I really like that, but they removed it. So it's supposed to move a little bit smoother, I guess.
01:35:43
AstroDev
But I don't know.
01:35:44
GREASEDAPOLES
These these ah what they call boomer shooters games.
01:35:45
AstroDev
I like that. Yeah, yeah.
01:35:48
GREASEDAPOLES
I have a limit, right? And with every one of them where and it's like sort of like eating marshmallows when you never know when the last marshmallow is going to be, when you're tired of them, right?
01:36:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Cause for me, at least there's just a point where I eat like the last marshmallow I'm going to eat. I'm like, I don't ever want to see a fucking marshmallow again. Like I've had that last one. I've done with them for a while.
01:36:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Like they can go away. Boomer shooters are sort of the same way. There's only so much of those games I can play before I'm like, I fucking hate this. I don't want to keep doing it.
01:36:23
GREASEDAPOLES
And that was kind of my issue with doom eternal. Like I,
01:36:26
Steve-O
I agree, I think the levels were so long and do maternal that I would like stop midway through and I'd be like, I need a little break.
01:36:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:36:33
GREASEDAPOLES
See, I like bolt gun. Like bolt gun, you kind of drift through the levels. They're big, but like you get through them really quickly, except for like the last level, which makes sense. It's the last level.
01:36:43
GREASEDAPOLES
It should be big and expansive and it should be all different levels to it.
01:36:43
Steve-O
but final part
01:36:44
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:36:49
GREASEDAPOLES
But really the whole soul of the game is you're just constantly moving in a straight line and it's quick and fast and fun. And I i just, I can't do another boomer shooter that's just like, after 20 hours, I'm like, meh.
01:37:00
AstroDev
Well, this is this looks a little less quick. So the what they're kind of stating is like, you know, in the in the previous one, you're like a fighter jet in this one, you're more like a tank.
01:37:06
Steve-O
The final part.
01:37:13
AstroDev
You know, you're like a fucking just throwing a saw blade shield, which, again, objectively, I think like it's really hard to say that's not cool looking.
01:37:22
GREASEDAPOLES
No, of course that's cool. Like aesthetically, that's awesome.
01:37:23
AstroDev
um Yeah.
01:37:24
GREASEDAPOLES
but like
01:37:24
Steve-O
Mm-hmm Yeah Yeah, I got burnt I feel like that was the one thing that eternal made me like go like oh they don't understand why people like this and
01:37:25
AstroDev
And, you know, the the gameplay, I think like I see the gameplay and I'm like, I'm sold. I don't like this one decision that they made, but like I'm pretty sold on the game in general.
01:37:36
AstroDev
um But, you know, I know, yeah, Chris and Steve, not big fans, John.
01:37:41
GREASEDAPOLES
Also didn't like the story in the journal.
01:37:43
AstroDev
and
01:37:48
eraserhead
I didn't play I didn't play eternal.
01:37:50
AstroDev
Yeah. Yeah.
01:37:51
eraserhead
I was clown and Devon, I was clown and Devon, then I watched the Charles like, oh my God, this looks really good.
01:37:51
AstroDev
Well, John, you were feeling you were feeling this one.
01:37:57
eraserhead
This looks really fun. um I might actually get it.
01:37:59
AstroDev
He looks so cool, though, with this fur.
01:38:01
Steve-O
Dude, dude, it's the, it's Man of Steel, man.
01:38:04
AstroDev
He is amazed.
01:38:04
Steve-O
It's that Man of Steel trailer.
01:38:04
eraserhead
If that was his hair, I was his hair, though, instead of like shoulder fur, that'd be.
01:38:08
Steve-O
Oh, he just had this like big, long man.
01:38:09
AstroDev
Game over.
01:38:10
eraserhead
Yeah, he have he'd have infinite. He have infinite aura, but he doesn't.
01:38:14
Steve-O
Nah, it's just a shawl, just a shawl or something.
01:38:14
AstroDev
Yeah, dude.
01:38:16
eraserhead
It's OK. Yeah, it's just and still cool.
01:38:18
AstroDev
and Yeah. Oh man.
01:38:20
eraserhead
But if that was his hair, we're talking generational.
01:38:22
Steve-O
That's the thing, like this could be like an absolute banger and i' I'm gonna eat my words.
01:38:22
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:38:26
Steve-O
I think, you know, some of the things in Doom Eternal kind of like maybe me go like a little ooh. but this could fix it all. um And I just, you know, I want the Doomguy to be a badass.
01:38:38
Steve-O
And I know this is, you know, pretty cool. But that second one, all the stuff I loved in the first one where it was like the character did not care about the story in the game you were playing.
01:38:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Yes.
01:38:48
Steve-O
And then immediately your character is kneeling to some ghosts.
01:38:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Yes.
01:38:52
Steve-O
And then the main bad guy is like literally a foot in front of you, like punching distance. And you're just listening to them soliloquy to you.
01:39:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Yeah.
01:39:00
Steve-O
I'm like the Doomguy from the first game would have grabbed that guy by the head and just squished.
01:39:05
GREASEDAPOLES
He's sort of like wonk. Remember that? And you ever see that comic where they had link, but he's this giant, like roided out monster man.
01:39:10
Steve-O
Oh. Mm hmm.
01:39:14
GREASEDAPOLES
And and like instead of like using bombs or anything, he just takes someone and jams a hole into ah a wall with their body, like chisels a hole with their bones.
01:39:25
GREASEDAPOLES
like that's I like that aspect.
01:39:29
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:39:30
GREASEDAPOLES
That's what I loved about the first Doom game.
01:39:32
Steve-O
And if that's a return, if this is a return to that, let's let's go big thumbs up.
01:39:35
AstroDev
ah I got some bad news for you. They they specifically were like, oh, we're we're giving you cut scenes instead of like the slayer diaries or whatever. So there's that.
01:39:47
GREASEDAPOLES
oh no
01:39:48
AstroDev
yeah Hey, I'm just saying you can watch the thing. I'm saving you some time, but.
01:39:54
GREASEDAPOLES
like and You know what you are Devin you're like every time we have a like optimism going well guys, you know like this That's done then like three times already Yeah, you really are
01:39:54
AstroDev
ah
01:39:54
Steve-O
did you do
01:40:02
Steve-O
and
01:40:02
AstroDev
Yeah, I'm just saying.
01:40:06
AstroDev
I'm fucking Debbie Downer over here.
01:40:07
Steve-O
wait that Devan's leaning in, he's like, Sarah's second plane has hit the tower. Oh!
01:40:15
GREASEDAPOLES
like he hurt
01:40:17
Steve-O
Oh, I gotta read to these school children.
01:40:19
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, you guys are gonna like this he's bagels all the time but No, no, I wouldn't you're right.
01:40:20
AstroDev
But like, would you would you? add Would you would you forgive?
01:40:22
Steve-O
ah
01:40:24
AstroDev
Would you ever forgive me if I didn't say anything and you guys buy it and you're like but two hours of fucking cutscenes?
01:40:27
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:40:29
GREASEDAPOLES
No, I respect it It's just funny.
01:40:31
AstroDev
I mean, hey, maybe.
01:40:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Like it's it's funny. You should have went out on the bagels line He goes hard on carbs
01:40:37
Steve-O
He's bail all the time.
01:40:39
AstroDev
he's He dude he gets really fat in the plot yeah I'm on God mode right now
01:40:45
Steve-O
That would be fun if like whatever bagel he ate, he got that power. And then at the very end, you get like an everything bagel.
01:40:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Dude, that's God mode.
01:40:56
Steve-O
when up we but So are you confident with this pick still, Devin?
01:40:58
GREASEDAPOLES
That was a great, that was a great battle. Thank you.
01:41:05
Steve-O
Because you also have Doom Eternal or Doom Darkness.
01:41:05
AstroDev
I'm confident. um ah I have, uh, I have doom.
01:41:10
Steve-O
Doom the Dark Age.
01:41:12
AstroDev
Yeah. The dark age. And I have south of midnight. I am confident in both that will get me points. I think that's the midnight side of the game.
01:41:19
GREASEDAPOLES
What's south of midnight? What the hell was that?
01:41:22
AstroDev
I was talking about before. It's like the, it's like, it takes place in fucking
01:41:29
Steve-O
Southern Gothic Folklore.
01:41:29
AstroDev
It's like the clay. Yeah, Southern Gothic folklore.
01:41:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Hmm.
01:41:33
AstroDev
It's kind of like claymation style and.
01:41:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, that's yeah, OK, you were you were talking.
01:41:37
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:41:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, I remember.
01:41:38
AstroDev
But I don't know, the combat seems a bit average and I'm not saying it's an adventure games. I don't know how combat focused it is, but and he the combat might be fine. It's just I saw that right after seeing Ninja Gaiden nonsense.
01:41:51
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, it's sort of like ah sinners, like that time period. So what you're saying like Southern vampire.
01:41:56
AstroDev
Yeah, I had. No, no, it's it's there's flashlights because the whole plot is like you get in a fight with your mom and then like your fucking house floats away in a hurricane.
01:41:58
GREASEDAPOLES
No.
01:42:08
AstroDev
And then you got to do, do not like everything except for the combat kind of like I i was vibing with everything.
01:42:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, oh, that sounds, that sounds pretty cool.
01:42:14
AstroDev
I saw the comment. I was like, and I don't know if it's going to be fun to play for like 16 hours or whatever, but.
01:42:21
GREASEDAPOLES
Did, did anybody see, uh, sorry, it's like way like this. Anybody see this, the sinners trailer that they played during the, Oh, that looks cool, man.
01:42:27
eraserhead
A new one. nige I saw a thing for it, but I didn't click on it yet.
01:42:32
AstroDev
Yeah, sinners is.
01:42:32
eraserhead
Are they actually vampires or what? Because it wasn't clear in the last trailer that they were vampires, but people were saying that they're vampires.
01:42:34
GREASEDAPOLES
So.
01:42:38
GREASEDAPOLES
It looks as though this is what I gather from that trailer. So it's like a like a group of like hillbillies that come up to there. It looks like a bar out in the middle of the woods. And it's all they got.
01:42:51
GREASEDAPOLES
It looks like a predominantly black bar, like African American bar. And they come out and they're all white and they're like they start playing the song about eating black people like drinking their blood and stuff and like
01:43:04
eraserhead
Oh, so it is vampires.
01:43:06
GREASEDAPOLES
like a real hillbilly kind of so like a beat. And then you just see the whole bar is surrounded by what looks to be vampires and they're all white.
01:43:09
eraserhead
Oh man.
01:43:16
GREASEDAPOLES
So I, I, my theory is that there's like a KKK.
01:43:18
eraserhead
So the white people are vampires.
01:43:20
GREASEDAPOLES
I think they're the KKK are like vampires in this town and the white people in town look the other way when they eat black people.
01:43:28
eraserhead
Oh, interesting.
01:43:28
GREASEDAPOLES
I don't care.
01:43:29
AstroDev
I mean, yeah.
01:43:31
GREASEDAPOLES
That's what I gather from it.
01:43:33
eraserhead
Because I thought I thought the Michael B Jordan twins were were going to be the vampires for some reason.
01:43:33
AstroDev
My argument.
01:43:37
GREASEDAPOLES
I think they get bit to fight back. Like they turn to kill the other races.
01:43:40
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:43:43
eraserhead
Are they survived or something?
01:43:43
AstroDev
My argument though, is like, why would a vampire be racist?
01:43:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, it's a best food source.
01:43:48
eraserhead
Well, if they if they look if they look at at black people as cattle instead of actual people and they just eat on them, then yeah I would say that's pretty racist, right?
01:43:54
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:43:54
GREASEDAPOLES
That's the whole point.
01:43:57
AstroDev
Like no one cares.
01:43:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, they're like, yeah, nobody cares.
01:44:00
AstroDev
I was just.
01:44:00
eraserhead
Like they
01:44:01
GREASEDAPOLES
No white people care that black people are getting
01:44:02
eraserhead
Yeah, they as long as they turn the other cheek, they they they they don't they're not the ones that get eaten.
01:44:03
AstroDev
So they're just like, listen.
01:44:07
AstroDev
They're saying the cows are, you know what, dude, so you're telling hold on, you're telling me that this is just this movie is just the entire marketing plot of.
01:44:19
Steve-O
Remember the name of it.
01:44:19
AstroDev
So marketing.
01:44:20
Steve-O
Remember the name of it.
01:44:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Come on, Devin.
01:44:20
AstroDev
Oh, no.
01:44:21
GREASEDAPOLES
Get there. You got it, buddy.
01:44:24
eraserhead
Finish it. Finish it, though.
01:44:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Finish it.
01:44:25
Steve-O
Phoenician.
01:44:25
eraserhead
Finish it.
01:44:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Finish the fight.
01:44:26
AstroDev
Oh, fuck.
01:44:26
Steve-O
Phoenician.
01:44:28
AstroDev
Chick-fil-A.
01:44:30
GREASEDAPOLES
Chick-fil-A?
01:44:31
eraserhead
Oh, no.
01:44:31
AstroDev
It's the cows holding signs as they eat more chicken. This is what you're telling me.
01:44:35
eraserhead
Oh my goodness.
01:44:36
AstroDev
This entire plot line. You fucking, you telling me that's it?
01:44:41
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:44:41
AstroDev
It's a human.
01:44:42
eraserhead
Is that where you were going, or is this a save?
01:44:42
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's it. That's it, man.
01:44:43
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, did you?
01:44:43
AstroDev
Yeah. That was a hundred percent where I was going.
01:44:43
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm done.
01:44:44
Steve-O
Okay, I thought you called it Audible. He threw the ball at the ground.
01:44:46
AstroDev
No, no, I legitimately, I legitimately could not remember the name of Chick-fil-A.
01:44:46
eraserhead
Yeah, I was like, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
01:44:50
AstroDev
I was like, race i literally I was like racist chicken.
01:44:50
GREASEDAPOLES
That's fine. and You're right.
01:44:53
AstroDev
Wait, homophobic chicken.
01:44:53
GREASEDAPOLES
You're right.
01:44:55
AstroDev
And then my brain just kind of slowly caught up. But ever not seriously though, that seems like what you're telling me.
01:45:03
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah kind of yeah
01:45:03
AstroDev
It's the cows saying and eat more chicken.
01:45:06
GREASEDAPOLES
It's not that far off, but yes, it's a nuisance from white people's perspectives that are getting eaten by the KKK and they don't care.
01:45:08
AstroDev
All right.
01:45:16
AstroDev
You know what?
01:45:17
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm fine.
01:45:17
AstroDev
Hey, hey, vampires are probably closed on Sundays.
01:45:18
GREASEDAPOLES
Sure.
01:45:20
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, I see the board.
01:45:21
AstroDev
Give me the fucking drum beat, Steve.
01:45:24
Steve-O
Oh, um...
01:45:26
GREASEDAPOLES
There it is.
01:45:26
AstroDev
Thank you. Goddammit.
01:45:28
GREASEDAPOLES
If you gotta ask for it, it's really not as effective.
01:45:28
AstroDev
Quicker on that. Yeah. Fuck you. Fuck you, Chris. Blue Valentine's socks. Fuck you.
01:45:36
GREASEDAPOLES
It blue velvet, but it's all right. yeah
01:45:40
Steve-O
no
01:45:41
AstroDev
I just spit water everywhere.
01:45:45
GREASEDAPOLES
you and we work
01:45:48
AstroDev
I quit! I'm done!
01:45:50
GREASEDAPOLES
All right, you should take a break.
01:45:51
AstroDev
Oh, fuck.
01:45:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Take a breather. Take a breather, man.
01:45:53
AstroDev
Dude, literally my fucking shirt is soaked.
01:45:56
GREASEDAPOLES
All right, you want to talk about some news?
01:45:58
AstroDev
Alright.
01:45:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Let's get to this news here.
01:46:00
AstroDev
Yeah, bloopers. Ah, bloopers. Fuck. Alright, Chris, you go. I'm i'm done.
01:46:04
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, let's see
Awards and Critiques
01:46:05
GREASEDAPOLES
what we got here. um We got ah the Razzie Awards. They announced their nominations this year. Of course, Razzies are the worst films of the year that are nominated for these awards.
01:46:18
GREASEDAPOLES
um Borderlands, a Joker 2, Reagan, Madam Web, they all are.
01:46:25
AstroDev
I didn't even know Reagan was a movie.
01:46:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Yep, that came out this year. They're all leading the pack and they have Madam Web of Megalopolis. I forgot about that. That's also on there.
01:46:36
AstroDev
Do you think do you think there's people that like legitimately get upset, like by snubs the same way we do for the Oscars?
01:46:44
GREASEDAPOLES
What do you mean the bad movies didn't.
01:46:44
AstroDev
Like, I can't believe. Well, just can't be covered hard to get the nominated for worst actor.
01:46:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. No people are talking about how um what movie was it. oh There was like some controversy of another bad movie that was not on this list. Ah, I'm going to forget it.
01:47:04
GREASEDAPOLES
God damn it. I forgotten it. Oh Jesus. There was another bad movie. They came out this year.
01:47:09
AstroDev
Chick-fil-A, Chris Chick-fil-A.
01:47:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Why am I blanking? Chick-fil-A. Um, yeah, no, there's, there's a good list of shit here guys. Um, they pick some Jerry Seinfeld's up for Razzie from frosted.
01:47:17
Steve-O
Chunky shit chunky shit You didn't see madam web You know who didn't make this venom and I'm didn't make this list did it
01:47:20
AstroDev
Can I wait, can I can I tell you I've only seen one of these movies?
01:47:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Really?
01:47:26
AstroDev
That's a I've I've seen, you know, yeah I see kind of a lot.
01:47:30
GREASEDAPOLES
You seen Argyle?
01:47:30
AstroDev
See a lot of things.
01:47:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Is that it?
01:47:32
AstroDev
No, Argyle. No, I meant on the worst picture.
01:47:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, worth, worth doing.
01:47:36
AstroDev
I've only seen Joker. I didn't see Borderlands, Madam Web, Megalopolis, Reagan.
01:47:40
GREASEDAPOLES
No, me, me either. Yeah, just Joker.
01:47:43
AstroDev
Yeah, no. ah Yeah, that should have.
01:47:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, Venom. There was another movie I'm completely blanking on. They were like, oh, I didn't.
01:47:50
AstroDev
Craven.
01:47:51
GREASEDAPOLES
I think it was crazy, maybe.
01:47:53
AstroDev
ah crave Craven, Craven missed the boat on the illustrious Razzies. You break a fucking rule, dude.
01:47:57
GREASEDAPOLES
hey There was, there's always drama for this stuff.
01:47:59
AstroDev
Come on.
01:47:59
Steve-O
The Crow.
01:48:01
AstroDev
The crow's really bad, too, dude.
01:48:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that was it. They said The Crow should have been nominated for Best Picture, Worst Picture.
01:48:06
AstroDev
Yeah, over what though? I mean, it's not pretty bad.
01:48:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Probably over Joker.
01:48:09
AstroDev
The race Dallas Howard is really bad.
01:48:10
GREASEDAPOLES
Like I don't...
01:48:12
AstroDev
Like a lie.
01:48:14
GREASEDAPOLES
I think i think Joker shouldn't have been on that list. I think Crow, The Crow, probably should have replaced Joker. That's my theory. That's me, just me. Prequel, remake, ripoff, or sequel.
01:48:25
GREASEDAPOLES
The Crow, Joker, Kraven the Hunter made that list. Mufasa, The Lion King, and Rebel Moon 2.
01:48:31
AstroDev
Dude, I forgot Rebel Moon to game out.
01:48:33
eraserhead
Ugh.
01:48:34
GREASEDAPOLES
That didn't get, that didn't get, that's worst picture.
01:48:38
Steve-O
People just forgot about it.
01:48:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Wow. Wow. I did just fucking forgot, man.
01:48:40
AstroDev
You know what's funny? You know what's funny? You know what's funny is like I watched Rebel Moon part two and I was like, bad. And then remember this year they came out with the R rated version.
01:48:52
AstroDev
And I watched Rebel Moon rated R version part one. And I was like, still pretty bad. And then I just never bothered with Rebel Moon part two. I just can't do it.
01:49:03
AstroDev
And I was like, why would I want to put myself through this?
01:49:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, he probably did the best.
01:49:07
AstroDev
So.
01:49:08
GREASEDAPOLES
Probably made a good move there, sir.
01:49:11
AstroDev
Dude.
01:49:11
GREASEDAPOLES
But as far as Razzie Awards go, these all most of these movies are deserving of these awful awards. And I wish some of these actors show up for them, because that's always fun, right?
01:49:23
Steve-O
It's always a delight to see that the actors recognize that they were in a turn.
01:49:26
AstroDev
I'll be honest, I feel like it's crazy.
01:49:29
GREASEDAPOLES
You think so?
01:49:29
Steve-O
Yeah?
01:49:30
AstroDev
Because all right. And maybe I'm being picky about this, but like, I can only think of when Halle Berry did it. And I was like, this is incredibly embarrassing.
01:49:40
GREASEDAPOLES
I thought she had balls for doing it.
01:49:42
AstroDev
I, but she's like, cause she was like, thank you for putting to be such a shitty fucking man.
01:49:42
Steve-O
Yeah. And then she just electrocuted that toad looking guy.
01:49:42
GREASEDAPOLES
Not an Oscar. Got that.
01:49:45
Steve-O
That was sick.
01:49:51
AstroDev
I was like, bro, like, I don't know. I don't know.
01:49:54
GREASEDAPOLES
I like, I like honesty. I do enjoy a good dose of honesty.
01:49:57
AstroDev
I think she's, uh, you know what? Yeah. I'm a, I'm an old man.
01:50:00
GREASEDAPOLES
That's cool.
01:50:02
Steve-O
Also, they might give you free dinner.
01:50:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Get free dinner.
01:50:07
GREASEDAPOLES
It's all raspberries.
01:50:07
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:50:07
AstroDev
yeah wait ah So we think we think these celebrities we think these celebrities are hurting for free dinners Halle Berry's like man I need a free food Yeah, yeah actually Steve
01:50:07
Steve-O
Free dinner.
01:50:08
GREASEDAPOLES
It's all raspberries.
01:50:09
Steve-O
and
01:50:10
GREASEDAPOLES
It's a bucket of raspberries.
01:50:13
Steve-O
I mean, that's the thing, you know, keep in mind.
01:50:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, dude.
01:50:18
Steve-O
We give yet we give you a nice lobster thoroughbred door.
01:50:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, what's up? At the Razzies? Damn, there we go.
01:50:26
Steve-O
Maybe perhaps a filet mignon. What's that called?
01:50:30
AstroDev
ah What are you got in surfer turf?
01:50:30
Steve-O
A surf and turf?
01:50:31
GREASEDAPOLES
Ooh, okay.
01:50:31
AstroDev
Yeah Francis Ford Coppola's calling him.
01:50:33
GREASEDAPOLES
it i I'd still go.
01:50:34
AstroDev
Well, you guys serve a turf. I'll show up before megalopolis.
01:50:36
GREASEDAPOLES
He would...
01:50:37
AstroDev
I'll do it Yeah, yeah so It's basically
01:50:38
GREASEDAPOLES
He... No, he wouldn't. He's too old.
01:50:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Um...
01:50:40
Steve-O
Ooh, yeah, what if that's the scam, you make bad movies so you get to eat at the Razzies?
01:50:44
GREASEDAPOLES
They got the best food, like the Oscar foods shit, but the Razzie food's like the best.
01:50:50
Steve-O
They really know how to treat these shitheads, right?
01:50:50
GREASEDAPOLES
They just... Oh, they got the best caterers, I don't know.
01:50:55
AstroDev
So it's like the insurance scam the fucking one guy the German director would do for like this Yeah, it's a wee ball, but for food I'll make all these bad movies that make billions and andd I get it and I got lobster.
01:50:59
Steve-O
Oh, um, yeah.
01:50:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Yui Bowl!
01:51:00
Steve-O
yeah
01:51:03
GREASEDAPOLES
Nice work, Yui.
01:51:08
Steve-O
Oh boy!
01:51:09
AstroDev
Oh boy lobster for me so Chris give me a give me a snub.
01:51:10
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, well, on the other side of town with shittier food, the Oscars also listed their nominations this week. So.
01:51:18
Steve-O
Boo!
01:51:21
AstroDev
Give me a snub. Just give me one snub
01:51:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Hard snub.
01:51:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Let's see, so we go to the best pictures. Let me take a look first. I just want to, because there's 10.
01:51:30
AstroDev
So many.
01:51:32
GREASEDAPOLES
So Inora got nominated, the Brutalist, Complete Unknown, ah Conclave, Dune Part Two,
01:51:38
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:51:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Amelia Perez I'm still here nickel boys the substance and wicked all made the list Wicked I would take Amelia Perez off the list and put heretic in its place That's my stub For actor and a supporting no, he didn't knock it nominated
01:51:46
AstroDev
What?
01:51:47
eraserhead
Good for the Razzies, the Razzies.
01:51:51
Steve-O
What the? and
01:51:56
AstroDev
Oh, you know what? Actually. Yeah, he didn't get a wait is he nominated No, no dude, yeah, that's a snub you grant snubbed official
01:52:10
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's kind of rough. The list of supporting actors, I really think it's gonna go to Yuri Borsoff, the guy from Menorah. If you watched it, you know, the guy's great. Everybody loves that guy too, like in real life. so But Guy Pearce is fucking great in the brutalist, I think. I know he's wonderful.
01:52:32
GREASEDAPOLES
um
01:52:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Directing, I think, leaving out Denny Velvenu is a huge nub. per Doom part two. That is, that bothers me.
01:52:44
Steve-O
are they doing Are they doing like a Lord of the Rings thing?
01:52:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Like, he's not up for directing.
01:52:45
AstroDev
Wait, he's not up for directing?
01:52:48
GREASEDAPOLES
I think take that, take Jacques Adour, the director of Mille Presol, put Denny on there. That's crazy. Crazy.
01:52:57
AstroDev
Chris, are you going to see that?
01:52:57
Steve-O
maybe Maybe they're doing like Return of the King where they just give them all the awards for the third movie.
01:53:02
GREASEDAPOLES
I guess, but the third movie is going to be pretty rough. He sticks to the butt guy. That's brutal. brutal Like, controversially bad shit.
01:53:11
Steve-O
You're not saying there's a scene where they all jump on a bed together at the end.
01:53:16
AstroDev
well
01:53:16
GREASEDAPOLES
I mean, that happens, but he also kills 4.8 million people. So it's like, yeah, you get the bed scene, but you murder a bunch of people, you know?
01:53:25
Steve-O
do
01:53:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. Year wasn't wonderful for film. It's great. It's not the best year.
01:53:36
AstroDev
Well.
01:53:37
GREASEDAPOLES
um
01:53:39
Steve-O
name a better year for movies
01:53:40
AstroDev
2023.
01:53:41
GREASEDAPOLES
ah
01:53:45
AstroDev
we don't have to yeah We don't have to go far.
01:53:45
GREASEDAPOLES
2023.
01:53:48
GREASEDAPOLES
Um, I have some personal favorites. I think whatever year it was gone, baby gone, there will be blood. Um, and no country for old men were all up for contention for awards.
01:53:59
GREASEDAPOLES
They're all just powerhouse movies. I think if they would have came out in any other year, they would have been the best picture of that year. I just forget the year.
01:54:08
Steve-O
Yeah, that was I think it was 2008 or seven.
01:54:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that sounds about right.
01:54:13
Steve-O
It was a killer's row of movies that year.
01:54:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Unbelievable. And like performances too. Like it's just, you get those every once in a while, right?
01:54:20
AstroDev
but Listen Listen, you know what? i You know what?
01:54:23
Steve-O
2007.
01:54:23
AstroDev
I am happy to see I'm happy to see I i Like that Ariana Grande got nominated for actress and support.
01:54:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:54:31
AstroDev
I think she was really good wicked I think she was like stand out really good Yeah
01:54:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah. She sounds great in that too. The voice is amazing. Um, yeah, I really, I outside of Amelia Perez, I think most of these movies are really good.
01:54:45
AstroDev
ah
01:54:45
Steve-O
Dude, I'm still Demi got, Demi got an actress in the leading role.
01:54:47
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:54:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, she did she might steal that too, cause nope.
01:54:51
eraserhead
Has she won an Oscar before?
01:54:53
AstroDev
No.
01:54:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Nope.
01:54:55
eraserhead
Not even four. What was that?
01:54:56
GREASEDAPOLES
I think she was nominated for, yeah, I think she was nominated.
01:54:57
eraserhead
A few good men. A few good men, maybe.
01:55:00
GREASEDAPOLES
I think she was nominated for strip tease too.
01:55:00
AstroDev
Chris. Oh, really?
01:55:03
eraserhead
Yo, let's go. The goonskirs?
01:55:04
AstroDev
Okay.
01:55:05
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, no, that, you know, that might've been a razzie.
01:55:06
Steve-O
Razzie.
01:55:09
eraserhead
Chris, I think you're you're confusing the Oscars with the goonskirs.
01:55:09
Steve-O
And that lobster Thermador.
01:55:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:55:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:55:14
eraserhead
She won a goonskir for that, but not an Oscar.
01:55:15
AstroDev
ah Chris, Chris, you're holding the you're holding the award. Who do you give cinematography to? Brutalist Dune or Nosferatu.
01:55:24
Steve-O
or you get to keep it.
01:55:25
AstroDev
Or yeah, you get to keep it, I guess.
01:55:27
GREASEDAPOLES
I can't say yet until I see the brutalist again.
01:55:29
AstroDev
All right. Well, Dune or Nosferatu.
01:55:32
GREASEDAPOLES
I give it to Nostra too.
01:55:33
AstroDev
Wow. Even though those guys fucking fly in the beginning of the movie, dude.
01:55:37
Steve-O
They fly in the beginning of the movie, Chris!
01:55:38
AstroDev
yes Chris, you're a fucking fake fan.
01:55:41
Steve-O
You, oh my god, that's my favorite movie!
01:55:41
AstroDev
That's Steve's favorite fucking movie. That's Steve's.
01:55:43
GREASEDAPOLES
any
01:55:44
AstroDev
And you didn't fucking like it?
01:55:44
GREASEDAPOLES
yeah ah
01:55:46
Steve-O
oh You know, you know what I did I I did watch a movie that this list just reminded me of I watched Wallace and Gromit vengeance most foul No No, it's not even my favorite Wallace and it's not even my favorite Wallace and Gromit movie It's here's the thing.
01:55:48
AstroDev
You know there's a worm in that movie?
01:55:55
AstroDev
Was it better than Dune?
01:55:55
GREASEDAPOLES
that
01:55:58
AstroDev
What the fuck are we even talking? Why are you bothering? Steve, why are you bothering me, huh?
01:56:04
Steve-O
Here's the thing. It is a sequel to one of my favorite my most favorite I will actually be definitive my most favorite Wallace and Gromit short and um It is I believe it is called ah the wrong trousers Yeah, and this movie is a sequel to that and you know, it's it's good.
01:56:17
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, I love that. Yeah, that one's good. Oh really?
01:56:23
Steve-O
It's just it's definitely not the same vibe in my opinion Makes sense makes sense
01:56:27
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, their studio burned down, didn't it? Midway through making it or something.
01:56:30
AstroDev
Yo, give man, that's not exact that sucks that's the
01:56:32
GREASEDAPOLES
I think that happened. Maybe that was years ago. That could have been years ago.
Trailer Discussions and Marketing
01:56:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Anywho, on the docket of news that we have, enough of this fucking complete unknown screenplay by James Manigold and Jay Cox.
01:56:47
GREASEDAPOLES
Who cares?
01:56:48
Steve-O
Oh my god, the name's Cox?
01:56:50
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that's personally assault. Daven, you just, Bukkaki this list with trailers.
01:56:57
AstroDev
A lot of trailers, a lot of trailers came out, yeah.
01:57:00
GREASEDAPOLES
um Mickey 17 I did.
01:57:01
AstroDev
Did you see any of them?
01:57:04
AstroDev
I didn't like this trailer.
01:57:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it's not looking great.
01:57:07
AstroDev
It felt like they were trying to make it appeal to a wider audience. I was like, what is oh, this is an action movie?
01:57:13
GREASEDAPOLES
They pushed this movie back, so I'm kind of concerned that they don't know what they have.
01:57:19
Steve-O
What is this? Is this a baseball movie?
01:57:21
GREASEDAPOLES
This is the Cheng Bang.
01:57:22
eraserhead
It's a bomb, guys, it's a bomb.
01:57:23
AstroDev
It's the Bond movies, do you?
01:57:24
GREASEDAPOLES
um
01:57:24
Steve-O
Well, this is the Bong movie?
01:57:25
GREASEDAPOLES
You bong movie.
01:57:25
Steve-O
Oh, I'm not gonna lie. The name Mickey 17. I see the word Mickey. I see the number seven. I think Mickey Mantle.
01:57:32
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, love that guy. No, I don't.
01:57:34
AstroDev
But OK, sure.
01:57:36
eraserhead
It's a bomb, right? It's going to be a banger, this one.
01:57:37
Steve-O
That is Bong. That is Bong.
01:57:38
AstroDev
I hope it's a bang. It's just this trailer it made it seem like, yeah, like to Chris's point, it may seem like Warner Brothers doesn't know how to market it.
01:57:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Bong and patty boy.
01:57:45
eraserhead
You know what?
01:57:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Now they really talk.
01:57:46
eraserhead
watch Watch the drive trailer again right now.
01:57:49
AstroDev
Oh, yes, terrible, terrible trailer.
01:57:50
eraserhead
Just watch right now.
01:57:52
Steve-O
I'm curious, watch Snowcursor's trailer and tell me if they sold that proper.
01:57:52
eraserhead
maybe Maybe they were...
01:57:55
eraserhead
Yeah, that's true.
01:57:55
AstroDev
But I want I want it to do well, though, you know, I don't want to just be good and have no one see it.
01:57:59
eraserhead
Well, maybe the trailer... Well, also, did you guys hear, I think, February 7th, they're re-releasing Parasite and IMAX?
01:58:09
Steve-O
No.
01:58:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Really?
01:58:09
eraserhead
So maybe that maybe maybe that that'll get the marketing grind gears grinding a little bit for Mickey 17, too.
01:58:15
Steve-O
Makes sense.
01:58:16
GREASEDAPOLES
I think they...
01:58:16
AstroDev
Sorry, I'll be watching Captain America.
01:58:17
eraserhead
Yeah, it's like the fifth. it's like the fifth They get stuff dude don't even get me star on that shit dude.
01:58:22
AstroDev
that
01:58:23
eraserhead
You got the fucking Zack Snyder You got the Zack Snyder brain rot posts like fucking fucking reverse glazing the the Superman shit but Captain America looks so bad like everything looks bad about that like the the special effects look horrible
01:58:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:58:41
AstroDev
Well, sounds like somebody just doesn't like the fact that he's not a white man anymore. OK, we're going to log that down.
01:58:48
Steve-O
Where do you write that down at?
01:58:49
AstroDev
Oh, I have notes.
01:58:50
eraserhead
I'm just like man man fantastic for trailers drop in Super Bowl right That's a lot of money that That's a lot of money to drop on some that people are already gonna be high for anyway, so I don't know maybe they don't Because like it's so much it's so much money right like isn't
01:58:51
Steve-O
Do you keep notes of the podcast?
01:58:53
AstroDev
Yeah, ah you don't.
01:58:53
Steve-O
How many years of notes do you have?
01:58:55
GREASEDAPOLES
You should see his whole studies filled the books.
01:58:56
AstroDev
I have books. Yeah, like I haven't studied.
01:58:59
GREASEDAPOLES
It's like seven.
01:59:01
AstroDev
Dude, you're fucking better, bro.
01:59:02
Steve-O
Oh, you know it is, you know it is.
01:59:03
AstroDev
Give it to me. Yeah.
01:59:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
01:59:13
AstroDev
yeah
01:59:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Navy.
01:59:14
AstroDev
Yeah.
01:59:14
GREASEDAPOLES
I hate that, man.
01:59:18
Steve-O
It's a zillion dollars.
01:59:18
GREASEDAPOLES
Come out with your best movies, man.
01:59:20
eraserhead
Isn't it like a hundred, a hundred million dollars per minute or some shit to advertise during the Super Bowl or something like that?
01:59:25
GREASEDAPOLES
Probably.
01:59:25
Steve-O
I'm just saying, if you if you can't cough up the same amount that planners peanuts can cough up.
01:59:26
AstroDev
So it's probably like $5 million a minute.
01:59:30
eraserhead
Remember the Kanye.
01:59:32
GREASEDAPOLES
They have like five second commercials.
01:59:35
Steve-O
Yeah, but they're baby, man.
01:59:35
eraserhead
Remember when Kanye, remember when Kanye, bought the Kanye bought the Super Bowl ad and just posted a fucking Instagram video of whatever.
01:59:37
GREASEDAPOLES
and
01:59:41
AstroDev
Oh God.
01:59:44
eraserhead
Let me see a Super Bowl ad cost.
01:59:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Remember that?
01:59:46
eraserhead
of six and a half to $7 million dollars for 30 seconds.
01:59:50
GREASEDAPOLES
My favorite Super Bowl ad was that cryptocurrency that Larry David was pushing, and then it came out that there was a scam.
01:59:57
Steve-O
Oh.
01:59:57
GREASEDAPOLES
They had to give all their money back. That's great. It was like within six months of that commercial error.
02:00:04
AstroDev
I remember last year when somebody convinced RFK junior to put one out for his, his presidency run. It was like, why, who convinced them to do that? It's a lot of fucking money, dude.
02:00:12
GREASEDAPOLES
Idiot. Somebody probably making money off of it guys want to hear you guys want to hear
02:00:17
AstroDev
Yeah, probably. Uh, yeah. Well, there are some other trailers. Hello summer, which is, uh, directed by Finn Wolfhard, which I, it's
02:00:25
Steve-O
Bro, get out of here with your fucking 80s ass shit, man.
02:00:27
eraserhead
Stranger thanks.
02:00:28
Steve-O
Look at this text. Look at this style. All he knows is the 80s. This kid's got 80s brain, right?
02:00:33
AstroDev
But think it takes place.
02:00:33
Steve-O
He wasn't even born in the same decade.
02:00:35
AstroDev
It takes place modern day.
02:00:37
eraserhead
Did you guys watch? Did you guys watch?
02:00:39
Steve-O
I haven't clicked the button.
02:00:40
eraserhead
I saw the TV glow.
02:00:40
Steve-O
I haven't clicked the button.
02:00:41
eraserhead
I saw the TV glow.
02:00:42
AstroDev
I did.
02:00:42
eraserhead
Did you guys watch that?
02:00:43
AstroDev
I did.
02:00:44
eraserhead
Is it as base as everybody's saying online or it's not that good?
02:00:48
AstroDev
It's not for me. It's not for me.
02:00:50
GREASEDAPOLES
Guys, guys, do you want to hear some juicy rumors?
02:00:50
AstroDev
I just say that.
02:00:53
Steve-O
I want to hear a juicy rumor.
02:00:54
AstroDev
Give me a juice, boy.
02:00:55
GREASEDAPOLES
You want to hear some juicy rumors?
02:00:56
AstroDev
hey Can we back it up a second just real quick?
02:00:59
GREASEDAPOLES
OK, I got some good for you. Apparently, apparently there was a cast of a young cast of a TV, a very famous show that does not does not get along with one another whatsoever.
02:01:04
AstroDev
but
02:01:12
eraserhead
Stranger Thanks.
02:01:16
AstroDev
Dude.
02:01:17
eraserhead
Cobra Kai.
02:01:17
GREASEDAPOLES
Constantly fighting with one another where the lead star has said before I am the star of the show I shouldn't have to do this multiple times That's what I read and they didn't give any names is all rumors, but man They said it was a the one of the biggest TV shows out there's It's got a be straight and it's young cast they don't they hate each other that's the other thing
02:01:17
AstroDev
One tree hill. One tree hill.
02:01:26
eraserhead
Millie Bobby Brown said that.
02:01:28
Steve-O
Thank you.
02:01:33
AstroDev
Wait, you're saying they were all fighting?
02:01:33
eraserhead
It's a TV show. It's a Netflix TV show?
02:01:39
AstroDev
Severance.
02:01:40
Steve-O
it's It's got to be stranger things.
02:01:42
AstroDev
Come on, don't do that.
02:01:42
Steve-O
It has to be.
02:01:45
eraserhead
So who's the star then? Well, I thought they were all friends. And they're all crying at the read alongs and shit.
02:01:50
GREASEDAPOLES
they actors John it's all rumor it's there's there's no evidence there's nothing yes they said a young cast they said it was a young cast though they really
02:01:54
Steve-O
You telling me we were sold a bad bowl of goods?
02:01:54
AstroDev
ah have you Have you seen Millie Bobby Brown's last movie?
02:01:54
eraserhead
I'm not. You know, I'm going to be.
02:01:57
AstroDev
Come on, actor.
02:01:58
eraserhead
Yeah, I'm not going to be. I'm not.
02:01:59
AstroDev
That was rude.
02:02:00
eraserhead
I'm not going to think. I'm not going to think it's them.
02:02:03
AstroDev
That's rude. I apologize.
02:02:03
eraserhead
Why it might not be. It might not even be strange things. It could be something else.
02:02:06
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:02:07
eraserhead
Right. It could be the white lotus for all we know.
02:02:08
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:02:09
Steve-O
Dude, it's the cast.
02:02:09
AstroDev
But. Yeah. But John, I would recommend you to watch. I saw the TV glow because I'm curious to see your opinion because it's.
02:02:18
eraserhead
It seemed interesting. The premise seemed interesting.
02:02:20
AstroDev
to All right. My issue with I talked about a few weeks ago but or months ago, but my issue with it was like it was like watching a movie that never gets out of like second year, really first year, frankly.
02:02:32
AstroDev
Uh, and that's kind of the point, but it also was still something I didn't really enjoy. But also there's a lot of people saying, and this is probably lazy.
02:02:42
AstroDev
It's a lazy critique of people that didn't like it, but there's a lot of people that just said, well, it's not made for you. And I'm like, okay, cool.
02:02:51
eraserhead
Okay, interesting.
02:02:53
GREASEDAPOLES
stuff for your eyes, Devin.
02:02:53
AstroDev
But yeah, it's, it's, you know, Oh, straight straight ah white male. Yeah, this is not for you. Sorry. And I was like, OK.
02:03:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Avert your eyes.
02:03:03
AstroDev
I still thought it was like frustrating to watch, but OK, cool. Sorry. So honestly, I it's not like it was terrible either. It's just like I very curious to see what anyone else would think of it.
02:03:15
GREASEDAPOLES
And it's on HBO Max. I always see it there.
02:03:17
AstroDev
Yeah, that's kind of what happened. I was like one night I was like, fuck it. And then ah because it's. because it's very Buffy coded like extreme.
02:03:26
eraserhead
Mm.
02:03:26
AstroDev
It's basically these these kids that.
02:03:28
eraserhead
Like there's a hell mouth.
02:03:30
AstroDev
Yeah, dude, it's but it's like the show that they're obsessed with in the movie is Buffy in all but name.
02:03:35
eraserhead
OK.
02:03:37
AstroDev
But then, you know, and it goes, it goes and and you're like, it's really cool. And then it just never never fucking gets there for me or got there from. um But yeah, so a hell of a
Industry News and Rumors
02:03:49
AstroDev
summer directed by Finn Wolfhard.
02:03:51
AstroDev
I know the bus seems decent according to the trailer. It's an eon, which is not.
02:03:56
GREASEDAPOLES
Neon.
02:03:57
Steve-O
Neeeong!
02:03:57
AstroDev
You know, it's it's not a twenty four, but you kind my ears perk up. And then.
02:04:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, ne Neon makes some hitters.
02:04:03
AstroDev
Yeah, and then ah there's this trailer.
02:04:05
eraserhead
Is an 824 on like a downslide right now?
02:04:07
AstroDev
Do they paint on a downsize?
02:04:08
eraserhead
like aren't they like They literally have a movie coming out about a fucking sea buoy that falls in love with the satellite, so.
02:04:09
GREASEDAPOLES
They apparently are having a hard time marketing and pushing for awards for their movies.
02:04:09
AstroDev
Thank you.
02:04:22
GREASEDAPOLES
I think they're getting a lot of heat for how they're marketing
02:04:23
eraserhead
Which I do want to watch, I do want to watch that movie, by the way.
02:04:25
GREASEDAPOLES
like the Brutalist, a different man, apparently a different man was really good and that they didn't push it for awards at all.
02:04:31
AstroDev
Yeah, I just You know what that life because it seemed like all their marketing went in the Civil War that movie Yeah Probably
02:04:33
eraserhead
is it Is it everything that happened after Civil War? Is is everything everything's been on the downswing? Is that? was
02:04:43
GREASEDAPOLES
It was the most expensive film to date. So, and I think, I felt they made their money back on that though, to be honest.
02:04:51
eraserhead
Probably, I mean, it was pretty popular, right?
02:04:52
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it was.
02:04:54
eraserhead
I'm looking at I'm looking at their chronological hits here.
02:04:56
AstroDev
That's a movie that people go like, Oh, it's too intense for me. And I'm like, you need to see more movies, dude.
02:05:00
eraserhead
That's what a lot of people say.
02:05:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it's not that.
02:05:02
AstroDev
It's not at all.
02:05:03
eraserhead
Yo, you need to watch Blue Velvet, bro. Like, that's where you guys are telling people.
02:05:05
AstroDev
yeah You need to watch blue Allen. Get a boner.
02:05:09
eraserhead
Wait, when did um. OK, so. I'll cut gems was was 2019 and then. These are all pretty good Green Knight 2021.
02:05:20
AstroDev
well Shaky.
02:05:22
eraserhead
Blah, blah, blah, tragedy of Macbeth 2021.
02:05:25
AstroDev
No one saw that.
02:05:26
eraserhead
um
02:05:27
GREASEDAPOLES
I saw that.
02:05:27
eraserhead
but but but but but but um After sign I heard was really good that was 2022 Fuck dude all mezcal Past lives past lives 2023.
02:05:34
AstroDev
I did hear good things.
02:05:38
AstroDev
That's uh, what's his name, right? That's, that's, that's Oz, Oz Cobblepot. Cobblepot.
02:05:43
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh shit.
02:05:43
Steve-O
I was a cobblepaw.
02:05:44
GREASEDAPOLES
Fuck. I forgot. I watched Gladiator 2.
02:05:47
Steve-O
You still a gladiator too?
02:05:48
eraserhead
Wow, you really you really forgot about it Is that how bad it was you forgot about things
02:05:48
AstroDev
I saw Gladiator.
02:05:49
GREASEDAPOLES
I did.
02:05:50
AstroDev
Oh, oh, this week you saw this week.
02:05:52
GREASEDAPOLES
I did. Yeah, it wasn't very good. I'll tell you that much.
02:05:57
eraserhead
Was Denzil at least good?
02:05:58
AstroDev
That's always good, Chris.
02:05:59
GREASEDAPOLES
He's, he was okay.
02:06:00
AstroDev
Don't, don't do, don't do them like that. Come on.
02:06:02
GREASEDAPOLES
He's okay.
02:06:03
eraserhead
What's better, Devin? Gladiator 2 or Training Day? It's a better movie.
02:06:07
AstroDev
Oh, come on trainee day.
02:06:09
GREASEDAPOLES
Training days is way better than me.
02:06:10
AstroDev
Easily do easy.
02:06:11
eraserhead
All right.
02:06:11
AstroDev
It's like, that's coughing baby hydrogen bomb. You just gave me, dude.
02:06:15
eraserhead
That's Joel versus Leon Kennedy.
02:06:18
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:06:18
GREASEDAPOLES
i I'm not impressed by I was not impressed by Paul Muskell at one Iota Equalizer I'm gonna tell you something in that movie
02:06:18
eraserhead
um
02:06:22
AstroDev
No, dude. I, again, I, Chris, wait real quick.
02:06:25
eraserhead
Well, OK, gladiator two or equalizer, gladiator two or equalizer.
02:06:26
AstroDev
that whole movie i owen
02:06:31
AstroDev
whoa
02:06:31
eraserhead
Gladiator two or equalizer two.
02:06:36
AstroDev
I've never seen any equalizer.
02:06:37
eraserhead
That's the one with Pedro Pascal, right?
02:06:40
AstroDev
I've never seen them.
02:06:42
eraserhead
Equalizer two.
02:06:44
GREASEDAPOLES
is one of the laziest directed movies I've seen in a long time.
02:06:47
AstroDev
Yeah, dude, dude, that whole movie is just then talking about how they're just glazing fucking Russell Crowe's character.
02:06:50
eraserhead
a
02:06:52
GREASEDAPOLES
I think for one set up in one scene, there must've been 30 cameras. I swear, I think he just shoots one scene once. He just like, oh, I got all the coverage I need, because I got all the cameras set up everywhere.
02:07:07
AstroDev
yeah
02:07:08
GREASEDAPOLES
It's just lazy, easy lazy, direction.
02:07:12
eraserhead
Wait, fucking ah Joseph Quinn was in gladiator to.
02:07:15
AstroDev
Yeah Yeah, good fun Yeah,
02:07:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, it's all right.
02:07:15
eraserhead
The kid from Stranger Things.
02:07:19
eraserhead
us ah Johnny Storm, right? He's Johnny Storm, right?
02:07:22
AstroDev
yeah, yeah, he's got a storm, you know, Chris is fucking it Chris is on a hate quest right now each side each side
02:07:23
GREASEDAPOLES
it a I think Ridley Scott's getting lazy.
02:07:23
Steve-O
You talk about Eddie.
02:07:29
Steve-O
He, I think he is too.
02:07:29
GREASEDAPOLES
He's getting lazy.
02:07:30
Steve-O
I agree.
02:07:30
AstroDev
Yeah, yeah, it's called permeate. Yeah, it happened during Prometheus. This is not a fucking shocker to anybody.
02:07:35
GREASEDAPOLES
I whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
02:07:35
AstroDev
I understand. I do not understand how people are blown away by this.
02:07:37
eraserhead
I tried so hard to like for me this.
02:07:39
GREASEDAPOLES
I think the Martians did fine movie. Like he didn't,
02:07:41
AstroDev
Martian rules. I'm sorry.
02:07:42
GREASEDAPOLES
Didn't fuck that up. it I think after that, after he won, he won Academy Award for that. That didn't that win Best Picture.
02:07:49
eraserhead
That's the Matt Damon movie based on a book.
02:07:49
AstroDev
Now, it won best comedy in the Golden Globe. I know that.
02:07:53
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, but anyway.
02:07:54
AstroDev
oh Yeah.
02:07:54
eraserhead
That's that's the book movie with um what's just it's Matt Damon.
02:07:58
Steve-O
Chris, that movie is 10 years old.
02:08:01
GREASEDAPOLES
It's been 10 years. He's giving up, man. He's done.
02:08:05
eraserhead
Wait, is he is is he going to do the other the the other mar not the Martian two, but like ah martian the than the other book that that guy wrote?
02:08:14
GREASEDAPOLES
oh But the Hail Mary Project Hail Mary That book is fucking That book is so great and you could fuck it up Fuck it up so easily too because it's literally a talking rock alien if you don't do that, right?
02:08:16
eraserhead
The Hail Mary Project Hail Mary.
02:08:16
AstroDev
I don't think so. He's got he's got a you should be dancing word of freedom
02:08:19
eraserhead
Cuz that that concept I read I didn't read that book but the synopsis is the synopsis is awesome of that book But I don't read but I don't read books Chris. I don't read books Project Hail Mary.
02:08:35
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh It's gonna be bad
02:08:37
eraserhead
Oh man, it's wait slave for 2026 bro. Oh, it's the Lord dude fucking Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are doing this
02:08:41
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:08:46
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, well, okay. I'm, I feel fine about that. but yeah Back in baby.
02:08:49
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:08:49
eraserhead
Okay, you're back in.
02:08:49
Steve-O
You back in?
02:08:52
AstroDev
Actually, you know what?
02:08:52
GREASEDAPOLES
That book is great.
02:08:53
AstroDev
Let me, let me, let me calm down a little bit.
02:08:54
GREASEDAPOLES
It's really great.
02:08:55
eraserhead
Oh man, Ryan Gosling is gonna be the guy.
02:08:56
AstroDev
I'll really Scott.
02:08:58
eraserhead
He's gonna be the bro.
02:09:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
02:09:01
eraserhead
And they got the hot T-Mobile girl, or AT&T girl.
02:09:04
GREASEDAPOLES
There's really no one else besides that rock thing in it.
02:09:04
eraserhead
What the hell is her name?
02:09:08
GREASEDAPOLES
It'll be interesting. Let's say it's roll the dice.
02:09:10
AstroDev
All right.
02:09:11
eraserhead
Wait, is this why Spider-Verse isn't coming out ever?
02:09:11
AstroDev
Let me.
02:09:14
eraserhead
Because they're working on this movie.
02:09:14
AstroDev
Probably probably. Yeah.
02:09:16
GREASEDAPOLES
probably
02:09:17
AstroDev
Wait, let me let me resend some of my I was freaking out for these guys.
02:09:22
eraserhead
Scorching takes.
02:09:22
AstroDev
I actually like the last tool. I think that's a good movie.
02:09:26
GREASEDAPOLES
I haven't seen that I haven't watched it.
02:09:26
AstroDev
ah It's it's solid.
02:09:28
eraserhead
That's the one with ah Adam, so Adam Driver, Adam Scott, Adam Driver, right?
02:09:29
GREASEDAPOLES
I've watched Napoleon. I've watched tell you I I don't need to see anything else to know that he just doesn't care about making movies anymore.
02:09:30
AstroDev
Adam, Adam. Yeah, yeah, Adam Driver and.
02:09:36
eraserhead
That was 824.
02:09:38
AstroDev
No.
02:09:45
GREASEDAPOLES
I Doesn't have the fire, man. Sad, sort of, but he he made fucking Blade Runner and the original Gladiator. Guy's solid gold in my mind.
02:09:54
AstroDev
Yeah. Fucking totally forgot you. So glad he it it's funny.
02:10:00
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, that one slipped the mind.
02:10:01
AstroDev
and Yeah. ah Let's see what else. Steve, who is Zach Krager?
02:10:08
Steve-O
Yo.
02:10:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Director of Barbarians.
02:10:11
AstroDev
Because he's.
02:10:12
Steve-O
Yes, the director of Barbarian.
02:10:13
AstroDev
That's who it is. OK, so he's doing the Resident Evil reboot.
02:10:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Hell yeah.
02:10:16
eraserhead
ah Companion ah what are they gonna learn? It's just not gonna be ever good in a movie as a movie, right?
02:10:21
Steve-O
Oh, but Barbarian is good.
02:10:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah, dude.
02:10:23
AstroDev
Barbarians good.
02:10:24
GREASEDAPOLES
he you got you got You got a good one.
02:10:26
eraserhead
I See you got you guys think that's this gonna be a good movie you're on board If he can't do it
02:10:28
Steve-O
I'm definitely confused, but ah Barbarian was good.
02:10:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Mm-hmm.
02:10:31
AstroDev
I'm saying if he can't, if this guy doesn't do it, you they probably should just put, they just stop to stop it.
02:10:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Barbarian is a level of creepy, especially with creature design, that I feel like if he got to do Resident Evil, he would nail it. He would nail it.
02:10:45
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:10:46
Steve-O
I mean, Barbarian is like very much kind of like looking at Lisa from the first Resident Evil movie, or first Resident Evil game, I should say, the remake.
02:10:51
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, yeah.
02:10:56
AstroDev
John, you should see barbarian.
02:10:56
GREASEDAPOLES
I think that
02:10:58
AstroDev
That's very good.
02:10:58
eraserhead
yes it's yeah i did i do that is on my list
02:10:59
AstroDev
Yeah. There are rules.
02:11:01
Steve-O
it's It's awesome, that's an awesome movie. And it's got that guy who could put his eyes in different places on his head.
02:11:03
AstroDev
yeah
02:11:07
AstroDev
ah Yeah. All right.
02:11:10
GREASEDAPOLES
You know, it's gonna be fun with that weird eye guy. You know, it's gonna be a good time.
02:11:15
Steve-O
Weird Ayankovic, isn't that his name?
02:11:18
GREASEDAPOLES
That's how you should market movies with that guy from now on. He's got the weird eye guy.
02:11:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Come on, man. That guy's great.
02:11:22
Steve-O
They're going everywhere.
02:11:25
AstroDev
Yeah. So what's interesting about this story too, is like he's, he's attached to it. And now studios are bidding for this movie.
02:11:33
GREASEDAPOLES
Mmm.
02:11:33
Steve-O
It's because of the video game heat. Everybody wants The Last of Us.
02:11:36
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:11:36
Steve-O
Everybody wants Fallout.
02:11:36
AstroDev
i And they got a good fucking direct. Yeah. They got a quality guy on it. You know, if this was fucking Miller, Djokovic again, maybe like, I don't, I don't know. Here's $50.
02:11:46
eraserhead
Paul Anderson or Paul is it Paul Thomas?
02:11:47
AstroDev
Yeah. Paul Anderson was on it.
02:11:48
Steve-O
Well, WS.
02:11:49
GREASEDAPOLES
Paul W.S. Anderson.
02:11:51
eraserhead
It's God, why are there so many Anderson's?
02:11:53
GREASEDAPOLES
He's the bad Paul Anderson.
02:11:53
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:11:54
Steve-O
Because come on, man, you send the Matrix.
02:11:56
AstroDev
i'm badass you're good way
02:12:00
eraserhead
So are they are they doing the Resident Evil one? Is that the movie they're making?
02:12:04
GREASEDAPOLES
and were
02:12:04
AstroDev
i don't know I mean, did I don't even think there's a script like he was just Yeah, and and yeah studios are just so we're not gonna see this for a minute Yeah, I've been hearing good things about companion people he produced that right I don't think he directed that
02:12:05
Steve-O
No idea. They put his name next to Resident Evil and people are bidding.
02:12:12
GREASEDAPOLES
I think i I've been hearing compassion good buzz about companion. So that's probably why. No, I think he did direct that.
02:12:24
AstroDev
Uh, let me see let's google it that's one Oh shit did ai write that fucking statement jesus
02:12:24
GREASEDAPOLES
I think.
02:12:27
eraserhead
All right, so the the producers of the producers of this Resident Evil movie did John McChapter four, Zack Snyder's army of the dead. So I don't know.
02:12:37
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, you're right.
02:12:37
Steve-O
Krager's take is described by sources as a revamp that will take the title back to its horror roots and be more faithful to the initial games.
02:12:37
GREASEDAPOLES
He didn't.
02:12:48
eraserhead
Well, the horror movie has, dude, hold on a second, bro.
02:12:49
Steve-O
Probably.
02:12:53
eraserhead
They already got it. I don't know. Never mind. This is a different movie. Weapons with Josh Brolin and Julia Gardner. I was like, these guys are going to be in Resident Evil, but it's not.
02:13:05
eraserhead
Interesting. man Capcom is really really doubling down, man.
02:13:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
02:13:07
AstroDev
Hey.
02:13:08
GREASEDAPOLES
You can't pick a better, this is a good pick.
02:13:10
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:13:12
AstroDev
Yeah, what's the more good news?
02:13:12
eraserhead
This is it.
02:13:12
GREASEDAPOLES
This is a good pick.
02:13:12
eraserhead
This is the one.
02:13:13
AstroDev
What's the more good news?
02:13:13
GREASEDAPOLES
Yeah.
02:13:15
AstroDev
Toxic Avenger finally coming out.
02:13:16
GREASEDAPOLES
Woo!
02:13:18
AstroDev
It got it got a distributor house behind the Terrifier movies.
02:13:18
Steve-O
Hoxie!
02:13:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, of
02:13:24
AstroDev
So an apparent like, what when were they? They're like, this movie's so bad it cannot be. I don't fucking believe that for. Is it great? Probably not. Is it bad?
02:13:32
GREASEDAPOLES
was having a hard It was having a hard time getting distributors.
02:13:33
AstroDev
Maybe. But like, dude, really? Like of the shit that gets fucking.
02:13:41
GREASEDAPOLES
You'd be surprised.
02:13:41
AstroDev
The shit that gets thrown out like toxic invasion couldn't make it.
02:13:43
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, that's why I'm curious. That's what I'm curious.
02:13:46
AstroDev
I know, I know. this I'm not saying it's even good, but like, was it that bad? Guess we'll find out.
02:13:52
GREASEDAPOLES
We'll see.
02:13:53
AstroDev
Guess.
02:13:53
GREASEDAPOLES
We'll see.
02:13:55
AstroDev
Ah, let's see. It's bad news. It's bad news. Ubisoft doing super well.
02:14:02
GREASEDAPOLES
Batty betty news He made a bad he made really begging
02:14:04
AstroDev
They closed the studio. 185 jobs lost. Sucks to hear.
02:14:10
Steve-O
That sucks.
02:14:11
AstroDev
Yeah, just bad. Bad news. ah Slightly good news, depending on how you feel. Warner Brothers video game president David Hadad stepping down after 12 years.
02:14:25
AstroDev
Probably good news, considering.
02:14:26
Steve-O
You made
02:14:27
AstroDev
ah Yeah, he made it.
02:14:30
Steve-O
a few.
02:14:30
AstroDev
It was just him, dude. is ah Yeah, and I think that's what else? Yeah, Phantom Blade Zero trailer show the combat looks good. But no release date just looks looks like a neat old game.
02:14:45
AstroDev
Kung Fu punk, they call it Steve.
02:14:48
Steve-O
I call it you Kung Fu punk, you know that?
02:14:49
GREASEDAPOLES
You kung fu punk?
02:14:51
AstroDev
You know, what the fuck is you?
02:14:52
Steve-O
No, I call it you Devin Kung Fu punk.
02:14:54
AstroDev
Oh, Kung Fu Punk?
02:14:54
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh yeah, fuck you Devin.
02:14:56
AstroDev
That's what I call my alternate CM Punk character in WWE 2K26.
02:15:01
Steve-O
yeah ah two k ah 2K25 just got announced tonight, by the way.
02:15:04
AstroDev
Oh, oh, fuck.
02:15:06
Steve-O
You know who's on the cover?
02:15:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, Drew Rasman.
02:15:06
AstroDev
Oh, wait, wait, let me guess.
02:15:08
AstroDev
Let me guess.
02:15:12
AstroDev
No, wait, it's going to be Seth Rollins, who is it?
02:15:14
GREASEDAPOLES
I made that up.
02:15:16
Steve-O
You were close. Nope, nope, nope, sorry.
02:15:17
AstroDev
Fuck.
02:15:19
Steve-O
It's Roman Reigns.
02:15:21
AstroDev
Oh, my God.
02:15:22
GREASEDAPOLES
Got the R right.
02:15:23
AstroDev
That's stupid. fact Who cares? Good for him.
02:15:25
Steve-O
Good for him.
02:15:26
GREASEDAPOLES
Good for him.
02:15:26
AstroDev
You know.
02:15:27
Steve-O
But Drew McIntyre did come out, Chris, and yelled him. So.
02:15:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Hey, I was close, Drew Rasman.
02:15:31
AstroDev
Steve, are you like, are you like in because of the Netflix era?
02:15:34
Steve-O
I've been watching the Netflix.
02:15:35
AstroDev
Is this what?
02:15:36
Steve-O
The Netflix makes it real easy. And it also, when you go and watch it later, it skips the commercials for you.
02:15:41
AstroDev
You know, the rumble, the rumbles up, right? Coming up.
02:15:45
Steve-O
It's coming soon.
02:15:47
AstroDev
Well, rumble.
02:15:47
eraserhead
Where's it at this year?
02:15:48
Steve-O
Uh, I believe it's in New Orleans. No, Indianapolis.
02:15:53
AstroDev
That's the Superbowl.
02:15:54
Steve-O
Yes, if Super Bowls is the big game.
02:15:55
AstroDev
Superbowl's in New Orleans. Yo man.
02:15:59
GREASEDAPOLES
have been the same place.
02:15:59
eraserhead
now Nowlands.
02:16:00
AstroDev
Yo, by the way, by the way, guys, go birds.
02:16:00
eraserhead
Nowlands.
02:16:01
GREASEDAPOLES
Turn New Orleans down.
02:16:06
Steve-O
Go by words.
02:16:06
AstroDev
Head and to the Superbowl.
02:16:06
GREASEDAPOLES
Come here! Come here!
02:16:08
AstroDev
Sorry. Sorry.
02:16:11
GREASEDAPOLES
Say qua, baby.
02:16:12
AstroDev
Take one baby. You know what's funny?
02:16:14
GREASEDAPOLES
Bringing us to the bowl game.
02:16:16
AstroDev
I was that guy and I could start as, cause I don't, I've never watched hard knocks, but I just started YouTubing clips.
02:16:23
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh, do you watch that?
02:16:23
AstroDev
That was a giant sucker. And I was like, oh, there's still no dummies.
02:16:28
GREASEDAPOLES
Devin, Devin, let me tell you something right now, buddy. That is my, that's my life blood.
02:16:32
AstroDev
Yeah.
02:16:32
GREASEDAPOLES
All right.
02:16:32
AstroDev
You just like, you have a bad day.
02:16:33
GREASEDAPOLES
That's what keeps, I roll up a Mara sitting in his GM's office and we lose, we lose a quam.
02:16:33
AstroDev
Fire up some of those clips.
02:16:40
GREASEDAPOLES
I'm just not going to be able to sleep. Well, night I just play that every once in a while.
02:16:44
AstroDev
Yeah. But like, you know, I don't always stand though. He's the owner, and he says that to his GM. And I understand he's like, I hired you to make these decisions. But his GM clearly fucks up, and he's just like, well, here's another job.
02:16:59
AstroDev
And it's like, bro.
02:16:59
GREASEDAPOLES
Well, he was, he was looking at his phone to see if he, something would save him.
02:17:02
AstroDev
but I'm just saying, that's when you fire him. That's when you fire him. You're the owner. You're his boss.
02:17:08
GREASEDAPOLES
dev you know muff footballer and but you You clearly know enough.
02:17:09
AstroDev
I guess not, dude. You you football neophyte.
02:17:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Now you clearly know enough to know that he shouldn't be there. Obviously. Um, yeah, they just, um, they feel,
02:17:21
AstroDev
We treat that guy yeah They treat him like shit and they go go to the open market and just promise us you'll you'll come back to us So he managed it and he's like no, dude Yeah,
02:17:29
GREASEDAPOLES
Usually when when it comes to GMs, if they make a bad move, they give them like a year to see if they can cobble something together. That's usually what I see in my experience.
02:17:40
GREASEDAPOLES
And then they fire the head coach and the GM that year, like everybody goes, like they, yeah like, you guys got one more year.
02:17:43
AstroDev
yeah
02:17:48
GREASEDAPOLES
If you can't fucking pull something together, you can't get Sador, whatever that kid's name is that's coming out of college, that great quarterback, you're fucked, you're fired.
02:17:56
AstroDev
Yeah, well, why would they right and then they got 40 million guys anyway, I'm not trying to make the football podcast I'm just saying We're Philly boys and the
Super Bowl Excitement
02:18:05
Steve-O
Go birds.
02:18:05
AstroDev
Eagles are going to the but birds.
02:18:08
AstroDev
Oh Super Bowl party in my house.
02:18:08
GREASEDAPOLES
baby Grease them holes baby go birds.
02:18:10
AstroDev
Good words I'd say uber uber or show up with a friend Those streets are gonna be nasty.
02:18:10
Steve-O
Go birds.
02:18:15
GREASEDAPOLES
Oh boy Keep it tidy you keep it safe
02:18:16
Steve-O
Oh, those streets are going to be running white green.
02:18:19
AstroDev
Yeah We're gonna green with poop.
02:18:22
Steve-O
Bird poop.
02:18:23
AstroDev
With bird.
02:18:24
Steve-O
All right, we will be back next week, ah but until then, grease your
02:18:25
AstroDev
ah
02:18:30
AstroDev
E-L-G-L-E-S. Right? According to our mayor.
02:18:34
Steve-O
oh
02:18:34
GREASEDAPOLES
E-L-G-E-S.
02:18:35
Steve-O
Uff!
02:18:36
GREASEDAPOLES
Go Eagles.
02:18:37
eraserhead
Biggles!
02:18:38
Steve-O
Eggles!
02:18:38
GREASEDAPOLES
Go Eagles.
02:18:38
AstroDev
Beggos! Sharky's Beggos!
02:18:40
GREASEDAPOLES
Go Eagles.