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Jamie Andrews on the Scientific Proof Against Virology and Control Studies
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This week, we’re excited to have Mr. Jamie Andrews present his research challenging the traditional virology methodology. Jamie’s work questions the reliability of the cytopathic effect (CPE) methodology, which is used to identify viral infections by observing cell damage.
Andrews' experiments aim to demonstrate potential flaws in this approach, suggesting that the results may be influenced by the methodology itself rather than the presence of a virus. The entire field of virology relies on this methodology, which is being falsified in real time!
I am sure you’ll find this presentation both intriguing and thought-provoking!
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Introduction and Episode Tease
00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Beyond Terrain podcast. I'm your host, Leo Dalton. Today we're going to have an amazing episode.
The End of Virology: Jamie Andrews' Perspective
00:00:09
Speaker
This is probably some of the most important work that's going on in real time right now. So I'm really happy to be able to bring this forth to you. We're going to have a little presentation today. It'd be best if you could hop over on the YouTube to watch it. I'm sure if you're just on the podcast and probably get the gist of it, especially if you know what we're talking about here.
00:00:27
Speaker
The topic is the end of virology. And, you know, this is sort of where the times that we're in. And I'm sure many of us would agree that virology has already been disproven, but, um, the work's not necessarily done. I think that there's always strength to be added to the argument to make it sort of undeniable and to allow it to gain traction. So, um, this man today, Jamie Andrews, uh, is doing some phenomenal work. So I'm really grateful to have him on today. And I think we're going to have a really cool, uh, interesting presentation. So I'm really looking forward to it. Jamie, thank you so much for coming on today.
Health and Off-Grid Living
00:00:58
Speaker
Hi there, how are you doing? Thank you for inviting me on, reaching out to me. And it's great to be able to present the the project to you and and to all of your viewers. um Yeah, I've seen you with great interest and watched a lot of your other videos in terms of you know the terrain and and and getting yourself out there. So props to you for doing it. And and again, thank you for giving me the chance to ah explain what's going on.
00:01:28
Speaker
certainly Yeah. And I'm sure a lot of the viewers are already going to be a little familiar with what you're doing, but um to get the whole presentation is going to be amazing. So ah I'm just, I'm so looking forward to this. This is as much of an episode for me as it is for the viewers. so I asked all my guests at the start and just before we hop in, I'd love to hear your definition of health, what health means to you, how it manifests, what it looks like.
00:01:49
Speaker
um Health to me is just ah you know clean living and no no allopathic medicine. ah you know Me, nor my family, my children, my wife take allopathic medicine at all. We try to heal and detox ourselves um you know through through the symptoms of disease. and ah you know um We do that you know in conjunction with with eating healthily you know trying to i have a homestead here so you know i grow ah my vegetables i grow my fruits myself and so you know we we look out over the whole um
00:02:30
Speaker
you know, easy kind of production chain in terms of the fact that we know that there are no pesticides on it. We know that there are no, you know, agro fertilizers on it and so on and so forth. So, you know, it becomes a ah whole lot easier to watch your health when um ah when you take things into your own control, you know.
00:02:49
Speaker
we were talking just just before this on, um just off screen that, you know, I've moved into um a Maison de Metro here in the Southwest of France and it's off grid here. So, you know, I'm trying to do everything to, you know, be self-sufficient and ah so take on permaculture, um ah principles of of growing food and that makes it easier to stay healthy, right? um you know, rather than relying on going to the supermarket and checking all of the bad labels on the back. So that's that's how I kind of manage my health, trying to trying to do it from, you know, taking control from the very first bite of food to, ah you know, not restricting your detoxing um by taking allopathic medicine that will cover up your symptoms.
00:03:39
Speaker
yeah And it's it's a lifestyle thing, right? It's but sort lifestyle shift. You know, often that's some of the advice that I try to imperative. If someone's looking to heal, I think, you know, there's not really, there's no magic bullets. We know that whether it be supplements or allopathic medicines, you know, right. You do have to have a ah shift in lifestyle. This modern lifestyle is conducive to disease, which is why we see the high rates that we have now, especially living in cities. It's very difficult to be healthy. You know, you have to sort of shift back and reintegrate.
00:04:09
Speaker
relearn what we've known for forever. You know what it means? so that's it We've never been this diseased in history. So there's a lot that we can learn from from our ancestors. so Yeah, no, that's that's great. And I i appreciate that you're sort of you're you living the lifestyle. that's That's great to hear. That's something I aspire to do. Well, i'm I'm trying to do it in glamour. you know i'm I'm trying to i'm trying to you know ah ah um dissolve the illusion of off-grid living, of of having ah you know a big beard. And you know you speak to the birds in the trees. And they're your only friends. And you know you're in a log cabin. and
00:04:45
Speaker
you know I'm trying to do it in style so I bought um a Maison de Metro which is like a small chateau and have built it myself you know refurbished it myself and ah you know everything here is ah built towards you know being completely and independent from the state so all of my electricity is run off of solar panels all of My heating in the house is ah made from sawdust pellets, so I have ah a wood pellet press off the back of the tractor and I get the sawdust from a local Manuezia wood
00:05:24
Speaker
I know the French is coming in, the ah like a joiner, a join a joiner, joy get all my sawdust from a local joiner and to make wood pellets to heat the house, collect the rainwater off the roof and recycle that into using as irrigation on the um on the homestead on the on on the
Presentation on the End of Virology
00:05:43
Speaker
plot. So, yeah um you know, trying to trying to pave a way for, for you know, glamorous off-grid living, as it were.
00:05:53
Speaker
Amazing. I love it. Do you go want to jump in? Yeah, let's jump in. Pull it up. Yeah. There you go. Is it is that coming through on your screen? Coming through all right. Yeah. Great. that Perfect. All right. Good, sir. Take it away.
00:06:15
Speaker
It's sort of straight up and down there. ah Yeah, that's right. i it's It's all in portraits. so um Oh, cool. All right. straight you know Because of the way that the slides work, and so you know it it seemed the best way to do it. I have got slight PTSD from um doing doing PowerPoint presentations. I haven't done them since university and obviously running this project. I needed to put something together in in PowerPoint presentations. It's kind of like, you know, getting the sweats, like is, you know, is, is somebody going to be marking me down on this or whatever? So, you know, maybe the presentation isn't up to kind of, you know, professional standards, but well, it's nice to actually portrait mode because we're all glued to results now. down right Yeah. That's it. Where's the results that count. Perfect. Well, I'll let you take it away here and you just go let it flow. And maybe if I have a few questions, I can interrupt you if you don't mind.
00:07:08
Speaker
Yeah, ah I'll just give you a brief, um you know, kind of introduction into how I came about running this project.
Skepticism and Data Analysis
00:07:15
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um The project is a large project, there's there's almost 100 of us behind the scenes working with countless um ah CROs, contract research organizations, essentially mercenary laboratories that are able to be hired by anyone, by people like me, are complete layman um and a complete I knew nothing about virology come 2020. I just learnt it from talking to people and getting into many debates on Twitter. um I started with no much more than a Twitter account and
00:07:50
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and a will to find out the truth for myself. um It started off a brief introduction. you know I was into statistics you know a little bit. um you know I knew how to analyze and data analyze statistics um from university. I did a science degree, a degree in geology.
00:08:12
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um And that enabled me to just, you know, process data and process information to a certain degree. And so when 2020 came out, um I started looking at some of the desk statistics that they were giving us, telling us that there was this deadly pathogen that was passing between people and people between person to person.
00:08:32
Speaker
And um they just didn't make sense to me. My ah my wife is in part ah Indian heritage, and we both have connections to ah friends and some family in India. And a friend of mine was um in New Delhi, a you know very densely packed city in India, um doing charitable work through 2020. So he was dealing with people on the streets there.
00:08:57
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and um ah The news was saying that this deadly pathogen had reached New Delhi and parts of India, but in 2020, by the end of it had only killed something like 100 people. So they were claiming that there was this deadly pathogen in you know, amongst the populace in India, but people living on the streets and obviously India is is very well known for having, you know, quote unquote unsanitary conditions. He was dealing with people that were living tooth to jowl in, you know, squalor essentially, um unfortunately, and he would give me almost daily updates on how people were and they were fine.
Contagion Model Critique
00:09:40
Speaker
there weren there was no there was no symptomology of anything being passed from person to person um you know any a and disease any more than he usually saw and I watched that and ah was completely befuddled by the fact that there was a complete um you know disconnect between what they were telling us on the news and what was going on in reality and so i I started to research what was going on you know to try and find the kind of causal connection between you know what they were saying was was happening you know
00:10:16
Speaker
pathogens being transmitted from person to person, you know, they must have done this, you know, in science to come to that conclusion, there must be b something. And this is really two parts. There's two parts to this project.
00:10:32
Speaker
um or there's two parts to what I'm doing really. If you want to learn about you know germ theory and how it is built on fraud and it does not work in the way that they do, this is the path that I would suggest that you take to start off with. If you're new to this, if you don't understand that that biological pat that the contagion of biological pathogens is a myth, just follow as as I have done or or tried to investigate these areas, which is I went on to Google Scholar and I just started typing in words and I didn't really know what I was looking for. I didn't really know how to describe it, but it was just putting virus up people's noses on purpose. Enter what you get.
00:11:23
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And it took me a little bit of time to kind of refine what I was looking for, but eventually I did find it, which was um a controlled human infection model, which is where over the course of 130 years, they've been experimenting on over 100,000 people where they have, and in the olden times taken, ah diseased material from people exhibiting the symptoms of you know diseases that they blame on on um viral infection.
00:11:50
Speaker
And they have taken those and directly given them to healthy people, over 100,000 people and taking all symptomologies, smallpox, polio, um influenza, Spanish flu, um all the way up to HIV and everything.
00:12:08
Speaker
Even as far back, if you really search through some of the contagion studies, they do go back as far as the plague. There are some, um you know, rough and ah notes about people in the plague. And the common thread of this is that when you actually start to look and find these peer-reviewed published papers that are publicly available, um they all fail every single one. 100,000 people, they don't have a single death, they don't have bronchitis, they don't have pneumonia, they don't get sepsis, not a single person is ever hospitalised.
00:12:50
Speaker
And my my jaw hit the floor when I found this out, you know, because that was that was conclusive proof. There there are there are no ah contagion studies. And when you look at contagion studies, they're actually fantastic because they also rule out other quote unquote pathogens, which is bacteria, fungi, parasites.
Investigating Germ Theory
00:13:10
Speaker
um because when you take and and the better ones are are the slightly older ones because as John Enders developed the cell culture technique which we'll go into a little bit further on, um the cell culture technique claimed to have you know purified virus in a virus in in a vial and so from 1954 on the control uh the human controlled infection models start to use the actual you know virus they claim as a virus and putting that up their nose rather than taking the infected material of people so they slightly subverted what was going on but in both cases they've never managed to induce disease even in the modern ones where they're giving people these quote unquote viruses which do knowingly contain antibiotics they knowingly contain
00:13:56
Speaker
you know ah serum from the from the fluid of around the heart of a cow you know all this and type of crap that they're putting up people's noses but they still don't get sick um and and this is where the kind of junction comes is is that if you If you really want to know and really want to understand and really want to lose the fear, that's where to start is is to start understanding truly for yourself that contagion of biological pathogens is a myth. You can see it in the peer-reviewed paper. It's unanimous. It's um unequivocal.
00:14:30
Speaker
and ah if you then want to go and test for yourself and that's that's again you know something that I would encourage just you know when just start to open your eyes and and look around when people are exhibiting symptoms when when family members are exhibiting symptoms note just exactly how many people get sick roughly in the same area roughly at the same time i and conduct your own studies and that's ah that's a really great that's a really great one right So, you know, this this is where the two parts of this um diverge is because what we saw in 2020 was a scandemic, a fake pandemic caused by fake testing, the PCR tests. Now, this kind of segues with but can the um contagion studies because
00:15:22
Speaker
In the more recent contagion studies, they managed to get away despite people not exhibiting any symptoms of the disease that they're giving them. They claim to have positive studies because they come away with PCR positives. Those positives cannot mean that they're displaying symptoms because they don't. that Everybody agrees on that notion. But still, this is how they've managed to get away with fabricating a pandemic.
00:15:47
Speaker
And so this is really where I kind of ended up in 2022 was going, I was lost because I was saying, well, all of the peer review paper papers, you know, according to all halls of science, you know, there is no contagious pathogen. But we have managed to, you know, see some of the most totalitarian and strict um ah ah political decisions, um being, you know, attempted to be enforced on on on ah the large majority of the large um percentage of ah of the world, um and it was based on the PCR test and so
00:16:26
Speaker
this was kind of my next endeavor to actually go and check, you know, whether these things were working too, ah you know, just like I checked with the contagion studies I tried to find out about, you know, the the core principles behind how they claimed that they isolated this virus, how they claim to have a purified form of it, and how they claim to ah test its genetics, its antibodies, and whole genome
Stefan Lanka's Experiments and Legal Cases
00:16:57
Speaker
sequences. And I stumbled across the work of Stefan Lanka, um who had done a control studies experiment in 2022. In fact, he had released his initial kind of
00:17:09
Speaker
um plan in 2016 when he stood in in court um and it's quite a long story, his court case, but it over the course of two um different courts, the lower court, the regional court of Ravensburg and then up to the higher court of Stuttgart, it ended with, and I have to get the here i have to get this completely right, um the wording, there is not no evidence of the measles virus in a single ah scientific publication. That was the
00:17:48
Speaker
unanimous result, the unanimous decision of um all three judges at the higher court of Stuttgart. And ah you can go, I'll put up um a link to it, it's on my twitter and um my Twitter feed, a a thread about that. but And it's it's quite interesting, essentially the um ah The expert witness that they called up, the expert scientist, Dr. Podbyelski, admitted that there was no scientific publication that fulfilled Koch's postulates. So they had to rule in the fact that there was no scientific evidence in a single so and a single scientific publication because that's what they admitted.
00:18:33
Speaker
um And as part of that, Stefan Lanka did his first control experiments, which is where he took the cell culture um isolation method. I don't know you know how how you want to, ah what level you want me to start at to go straight into explaining it, or would you like me to explain you know it from the very start in terms of what cell culture is, et cetera.
Virology Methods and Critiques
00:18:58
Speaker
Maybe a brief overview wouldn't hurt. Cool. cool um The cell culture isolation technique is an in vitro i in the Petri dish representation supposedly of what's meant to go on in your body. So they take a cell line.
00:19:14
Speaker
um from all sorts of different animals, monkeys, dogs, hamsters, people, fetuses, um and take the cell lines, grow them out in fetal bovine serum, which is the fluid from around the heart of a baby cow, um which gives it sustenance. It's a nutrient medium, so it allows this cell line to grow out because they take very small amounts of it and they grow it out.
00:19:43
Speaker
um When it is healthy and when it is what's known as confluence, so confluence is just the percentage within ah the dish or within the plate that you're looking at when it's got to a decent confluence, you know, covering 80 to 90% of the plate, then they reduced the serum ah from 10% growth medium down to 2%, which is known as a maintaining medium,
00:20:08
Speaker
But actually, as you'll see, it's not quite so clear. um And then they introduce what they consider to be infectious materials. So they take snots, bronchial alveoli, lavage from the chest, or mucus, or blood. And um they put it into these these cultures. And when um the cell line breaks down when it dies, they point at the culture and say, that's because of a virus.
00:20:36
Speaker
um This is the technique that was developed by John Enders in 1954 and is used as the gold standard, the only way to quote unquote isolate a virus. And so what Stefan Lanka did is he took the exact ingredients that we use. They use, in the case of SARS-CoV-2, they use ah the monkey kidney cell, the Vero E6 cell line.
00:21:00
Speaker
And they ah he did not put a aside he did not put a sample in, so that that it contained no possibility of a virus. And ah he put the same antibiotics, he used the protocol that was used ah by the ATCC, which is it's essentially like a bank where you can buy all of the cell lines and ingredients for cell culture. they informally um run protocols for cell culture isolation. He followed all of those and lo and behold exhibited cytopathic effects, which is the supposed death caused by a virus he saw in his ah cultures that could not possibly contain a virus. And so I was really ah interested in his work, you know, because to me, again, this was falsifying what they were doing.
00:21:54
Speaker
um and really when you look if you can say that you falsified that initial step ah you can't claim that you have a purified virus therefore you cannot claim further down the stream that you have a genetic sequence because you don't know there is no benchmark for what you're meant to be looking for in the first place when you're for instance de novo sequencing um you can claim that you can filter things out, but you you can never know for certain. so there's no So in theory, if you have falsified that initial step, and you have falsified it further down the line. Now, Stefan Lanke did supposedly um do a whole genome sequencing. He never released that paper, unfortunately. And so that kind of led me to going around and trying to find information about this paper that that that didn't exist ah you know as far as I could tell.
00:22:50
Speaker
um or And I found out that it just wasn't published. It wasn't published and this is, I have it from very good authority that it wasn't published because when the geneticists um that carried out the ah work on the control cultures found out the results and the fact that they managed to assemble the genomes of numerous viruses from his cultures,
00:23:14
Speaker
um that she was so scared for her job and scared for her career that she said that she didn't want it published. And that is what I've heard has happened. and But nevertheless, ah it matters not because I'm going to do it.
00:23:33
Speaker
i'm ah I've set up this control experiments project. It's been going on for about a year now. um I was running it in private and ah to start off with, but we've decided to release the preliminary results of the the experiment that we've done.
00:23:49
Speaker
and um ah I wanted to build ah on Stefan Langer's work. I wanted to take his work and to expand upon it and to really steel man what he was doing because a few people, you know, I saw ah there's a chap called Frank Visser. There's a couple more of that um made kind of semi-official on blogs rebuttals to his work and ah some of the claims that they made with the fact that he quite and quite overgrew a few of the cell lines. So we we talked about
00:24:20
Speaker
um you know, growing out the cell lines in in nutrient medium, FBS, the fetal bovine serum to start off with. If you grow it too much and it gets to the end of the plate, ah the cells starve each other out. So you can get kind of cell death if you overgrow them. um Now, I don't think that that's what Stefan Lanka did, but we took all of those criticisms and we tried to replicate that, you know, incorporate those into our um scientific experiment design.
00:24:49
Speaker
and go further with a lot of the um a lot of the you know processes and things that we were doing to really steel man the results that we were getting. So this is the first slide. We've done this experiment 12 times. We've repeated it 12 times over 90 cultures.
00:25:12
Speaker
um where Stefan Lanka did it just the once. We wanted to make sure that we had repeatable results. So if you can see at the top here, um can you see my mouse pointer? I'll get
00:25:30
Speaker
ill get this out. So here we have 10 percent fetal bovine serum. This is um one times penicillin streptomycin. So we used antibiotics and these are the lowest grade antibiotics you can get pen strep and we just did one um one flush with them with the exact um volumes that the ATCC recommend and to use for best practice for cell culture isolation. So we followed all of the um protocols that are laid out by the ATCC to make sure that this is a standard, you know, virological um ah used in in in ah in a virological lab a standard practice for carrying out this procedure um so that you know we couldn't be accused of of doing anything funky or you know and we chose to really strip it back um to a very basic experiment that it's it's
00:26:31
Speaker
but there are there's quite a big overton window of of how you um the methodology that you can use to isolate, you can take it into 10%, you can passage them, you can do all sorts of ah things to them, but you know we chose to keep it as simple as possible so that you can see the see the results. um We could have used the more toxic amphotericin and gentamicin, which are antibiotics that are known nephrotoxins, so they kill kidneys. um Most of the cell lines that are used are kidney cell lines, so it's kind of strange to disconnect that they use a known toxin to kidneys, yet they're using and studying the breakdown and death of of kidney cells, which
00:27:19
Speaker
is contradictory. um So we chose to use the lowest grade um antibiotics, and we also chose to use ah the HeK293T cell line, which is a human embryonic kidney cell.
00:27:35
Speaker
It's ah known as a very robust, very hard to break down, very easy to maintain um cell line. It is the most widely used cell line in clinical research for those reasons. Now, ah we used it for two reasons because it's harder to break down. So we wanted to make sure that when and if it did break down in our in our experiments that that would show weight to the findings that we were getting.
00:28:02
Speaker
and And also it's it's known as being more robust than the Vero E6, which is used for SARS-CoV-2. These are used in, the HEK cell lines are used in the quote unquote isolation of adenoviruses, lentiviruses, SV40. So they are used just not for for quote unquote SARS-CoV-2.
00:28:25
Speaker
um But the Vero E6 cell line is known to be a little bit more fragile. It does break down a little bit easier. It's the one that Stefan Lanke has also already got results in. So we wanted to try something more robust to to really test what we were what we were looking at, to really you know give ourselves the highest hurdle to jump over.
00:28:46
Speaker
um And the second reason we use the HEK cell lines is because they're human. you know ah This is ah ah again another kind of contradictory part to the virological methodology is is that they want to you know show their in vitro studies that are meant to be a replica of what's happening in real life but in the Petri dish.
00:29:07
Speaker
And with SARS-CoV-2, they really struggled to get any sort of cytopathic effect with a human cell line. They could only do it in the more fragile VeroE6 cell lines, in the monkey cell lines, which, if you think about it, is not very indicative of a pathogen that's meant to be deadly to humans.
00:29:26
Speaker
So we wanted to choose a human cell line to actually make their experiment better. I mean, their experiment is crap, but, you know, as get as close to it as we could with something that may give us good results, which is using a human cell line to show, you know, to show potential human pathogenesis.
00:29:46
Speaker
So if we look at the top here, this is essentially on negative control in this experiment, because wi the independent variable is not there. It's never been there. There is no independent variable in the initial um isolation method, because you know it's a whole load of ah gunks, butam or balf or or ah mucus and so they've never you know kind of purified it to start off with. um The independent variable in this is the fetal bovine serum and or the um ah antibiotics. So what we're doing is actually nothing to do with viruses. We are just looking at the cell culture technique and we are falsifying this technique. So this is the negative control, a 10 percent fetal bovine serum um ah culture.
00:30:39
Speaker
It's ah happy, healthy, it's grown to a confluence of 95% in this. So it's right there. You can um see here cell viability, 95% dead 5%. So um we have sought to get objective verification with this now.
00:30:59
Speaker
um A lot of the times in cell culture isolation, they just use the opinions of the the virologist that's conducting the experiments. Whereas we wanted to make sure that we weren't being accused of just subjective opinions and take that away. So we used what's called countess. It's a laser spectrometry. It's a cell viability counter, essentially. It just shines um laser bounces back and and ah shows the transparency or the opacity of the um cells that are in the dish and can give you a ah readout and an objective opinion of how many cells are viable within the dish. And so here we can show adequately that that there is no over-growing, so it hasn't reached 100% confluence.
00:31:46
Speaker
um It's a very good, happy, healthy cell line with a little bit of room to move, but a very great place to start so that we can show that the CP that occurs in the cultures is starting from a very high benchmark. So here we have the first parts to our control where we've reduced the serum. We've reduced our independent variable down to 2%, which is supposed to be um a maintaining medium. But as you can see, lo and behold, we have these huge gaping holes, which are cell death. They're CPE, cytopathic effect, apoptosis cell death, or syncha, which is where the um where the cells clump together.
00:32:31
Speaker
And any you don't need to be a virologist to see that these cell lines are dying. They're dead. They are indeed, you know, up to 40% dead. yeah um An objective verification from countess.
00:32:50
Speaker
and Here we also see that you can put one, two, and three times um the antibiotics um as as you go along, again, according to ATCC. But we wanted to alter these to see how much cytopathic effect was caused by this, whether it was just the reducing of the um serum or whether it was um the uh in combination with uh the antibiotics or whether it was uh just one more than the other and as you can see it it slightly raises as you as you put a little bit more antibiotics in so starting off with 32 percent it it kind of comes down a little bit but these readings vary slightly across the whole plate you know what you're seeing is a snapshot that's a very very tiny percentage of the the whole plate so
Experimental Observations and Results
00:33:43
Speaker
you read and it gives you a rough estimate and so you can kind of estimate across but ah if you get to the last one of 40 you can see that there's a slight increase across the cultures. and But the main difference obviously is the removing of that serum. It is starving the cells. It is known to starve the cells because you're removing the nutrients that you got to grow it in the first place.
00:34:07
Speaker
and that's what's occurred. That's what's occurred in every single cell culture that we did. Over 12 experiments in 90 cultures. We're slightly different, we ah vary slightly the ah the some of the um ah materials that we use. We use a few different, we use amphotericin in some parts. um ah We try to, and here we're looking at reducing it down to 1% fetal bovine serum. So we go slightly
00:34:40
Speaker
um slightly off protocol here for HEK cell lines. They don't really go down to one percent feet above one serum in a lot of the protocols and a lot of the methodology, but we wanted to just have a look and see if it made that much difference. ah on On the top here you see, and sorry I didn't say this is at day four, so all of the slides that we, all of the plates that we took out, we took out from incubation at day four to observe and put them under 20 time is magnification, and day four is, a yeah as as you will see, a fair a very standard time to allow to observe these cell cultures in. So um ah it can be it can be up to a few weeks. um In some of these protocols, they're leaving these cell cultures. I've seen i've seen one that's been left for nearly a month.
00:35:31
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Okay, a month before these things have broken down. So four days is is is pretty rapid. um So we compared 2%, 1% here. And as you can tell, ah you know, 30 to 36, you know, it's actually a little bit more, 32 to 35. We're in pretty much the same ballpark here, you know, that you're not seeing a hell of a lot of difference. So we the it suggests that The fetal bovine serum, the initial starvation coming from 10% down to 2% is what does the damage. um Once the nutrient medium is is depleted, then it matters not that it's gone. um The cells are already dead and dying. So we just showed that within protocol from that 10% to the 2% when they supposedly infect ah the cell culture um is when the damage is done.
00:36:27
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Now, um I mentioned that we had the the negative control of the 10% fetal bovine serum to show that um to to show that that we are controlling in our own experiment. you know We don't don't want to be guilty of not having the controls. and I'll just go into this because obviously there's there's a small claim that, you know, virologists do negative controls. They do a thing called mock controls. Well, you know, on the surface of it, you see that people, um virologists, when you read um ah some of them, some of them
00:37:03
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put the pictures up of of the mock controls they do. Not but hardly any of them, it's it's a handful that you actually see ah you know the cell lines, you see the results of the mock controls. I've interviewed hundreds of virologists on this and I have got quite a few of them to admit.
00:37:21
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um by proxy that they are not doing negative controls. They are doing weird and wonderful things like PCR testing and throwing away or keeping them in um different environments, either remaining in 10% fetal bovine serum and not reducing the serum and to give the exact same um conditions that they're doing the infection in, which is not a control.
00:37:47
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you know, they will claim that they're doing mock controls but you have to really pick a way to try and find the protocol for for how they're handling these controls and inevitably they handle them differently to the infection things 100% of the time. um I have never seen a full methodology written for a control in any single virology paper. They never have put out exactly what they are doing and so stipulating that they're doing the same. It's all just based on wink, wink, nudge, nudge, they're definitely doing it. Yeah. And when you actually get to the nitty gritty and I have worked you know with this project with people who have described how in industry these are these scientific experiments are conducted and it it was eye-opening to me to actually hear it from the horse's mouth that what they describe in terms of doing an experiment is thusly
00:38:46
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that they know what they're looking for before the experiment starts. They know what they expect to see before they even start doing the experiment. And so if the experiment doesn't do that, then they change the methodology, they throw it out and they start again and they tweak it and they move within this giant Overton window that they have to get the results that they've that they've imagined in the first place and on the surface of that when you actually view it like that what they what what they are carrying out is scientific fraud. Now, I wouldn't accuse them of scientific fraud because I just think that the entire thing is kind of built up around people not questioning what they're doing. They think that what they're doing is just best practice. Oh, I must have fudged up somewhere. Not that the results that they're getting show that the process that they're doing is is bullshit.
00:39:45
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but the fact that they think that they've mucked it up somehow and they need to adjust to get the results that they need. So I don't think that these people have bad intentions, I just think that they've been taught, they've been quote unquote indoctrinated to um carry out these processes blindly and the results that they're getting are actually not indicative. And as you can see, they're quite clearly not carrying out proper negative controls because we have done it in 90 cultures and exhibited not a small amount of cytopathic effect. These cells are half dead.
00:40:21
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they're they're gone, yeah, ah just with the most basic, the lowest grade um antibiotics. So, you know, as as you can see, you know, the call or the claim that mock controls are adequately done is quite clearly false.
00:40:37
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um So here we're talking about the negative control. If you look at the bottom here, um we there is a problem with using a positive control. Now, you know quite a few people have suggested that, um oh, you could use a positive control to compare the cytopathic effect of ah you know the viral titers that they have. That you can go and you can go back to the ATCC and you can buy what's quoted as virus, right?
00:41:06
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why don't you put virus into into this and see? Well, there's a very easy reason why we don't is because the ingredients in those virus titers contain falsified ingredients. Okay, so they only get those quote unquote purified virus titers from cell culture.
00:41:28
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So that cell culture knowingly contains antibiotics, it knowingly contains reduced medium, and both of those things both cause cytopathic effect. So if you're going to test it out, you have to knowingly admit that you are adding things that cause cytopathic effect. So even if you added it and and it had way more, I mean,
00:41:53
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Personally, I don't think that it would have way more, you know, you would have to have the cell line disappear in front of you, you know, to have more than 40, 40, nearly 50% cytopathic effect in four days. I don't think I've seen a virology paper with more destruction than that, really. ah You know, you can get towards like 50 and 60%, but really, you know, that you're taking it out of incubation before you get there, because you're almost having no cell line left to to do in i think way
00:42:25
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and so right just not my microphone ever and so
00:42:31
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I don't think that even if you put these viral titers in, I mean, I am going to do this as part of the control studies project because actually we want to take those viral titers and we want to put them under electron microscopy to have a look at them to see if they contain all the same particles. And we know damn well that to they won't. do But I think that that'll anything with. be an interesting, you Sorry, just not my microphone. know, look
00:42:53
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to to to, you know, something to investigate. But that's the reason why we don't put them in as part of the positive control because they knowingly contain um substances that that cause cytopathic effect that are not a virus. They contain the the reduced medium and the antibiotics. So um we have, you know, developed what is, you know, the closest to, you know, an adequate positive control. And I'll say this kind of tongue in cheek.
00:43:21
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um We used as asymptomatic sputum. So sputum from from an individual that was ah exhibiting no symptoms. They were asymptomatic. We diagnosed them being asymptomatic because when we put Their sputum in the cell culture, lo and behold, it exhibited cytopathic effect to 35%. five percent so um yes, that may be a logical fallacy and circular reasoning, but that's virology. Unfortunately, I don't write the rules, you know, don't shoot the messenger.
00:43:54
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So we used sputum we put them put that in there to essentially we are you know contaminating you know quote unquote contaminating our own cultures ah to look to see you know if it induced a lot more cytopathic effect because it would be interesting if all of a sudden you know again it just went off the charts and we saw something completely different but As you can see here, looking at the top slides, um we have 34% dead, so 34% CPE. And at the bottom with the addition of the sputum, we have just 35%, so it's almost identical. you know We're seeing absolutely no change from intentionally putting asymptomatic sputum in now.
00:44:36
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um You know, that sputum, if you if you read but virology textbooks, should contain millions of of little viruses in them. You know, we are bathed in a you know a sea of viruses according to the priests of virology, um but yet it's not causing any cytopathic effect.
00:44:55
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any more than um ah with no possibility of there being in there. So I just want to clear this part up as well is is that I can say that there is no possibility of a virus being in our cultures because um when you buy the cell lines, you buy them from the ATCC, um they come with a guarantee of non-contamination. So this is how we start, you know, this is how we can prove and we can falsify this as an experiment because when you buy them, they come negatively tested, they come sterilized, and so what you have is a
00:45:32
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a blank canvas to start with. If these things were contaminated with viruses already, they would be useless for the entirety of of clinical research. You would have cell lines everywhere that would have virus in and so you wouldn't be able to research on them and the entire world of of clinical research would dissolve and become become moot. So the claim that they could be contaminated is moot um because by their own um confirmation methods, they are free from contamination. The same with the fetal bovine serum is inactivated and antibiotics is there to supposedly take away the, ah or it does take away the the bacterial fungi and parasite bacteria and fungi. and
00:46:23
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contamination. um So here is from the American Society of Microbiology. This is in the Cell Culture Handbook of Best Practice and what to look for, and I'll just read this out to you. The rate of CPE, Cytopathic Effect Appearance,
00:46:42
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is also a characteristic that can be used to help identify viruses. In general, the rule of thumb is that a virus is considered slow if cytopathic effect appears after four to five days and cultures inoculated at low MOI. and MOI is just how much virus you put in there, but ah we had zero ah um MOI.
00:47:03
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and rapid if CPE appears after one to two days and cultures inoculated at low moi. So in our cultures we had cytopathic effect appear at 48 hours in two days and and by day four when we actually observed and we took the the images it was nearly half dead, 44% cytopathic effect. So according to the American Society for Microbiology, we have a virus in a dish that cannot possibly contain a virus. So we have falsified the um cell culture isolation process not once, but 12 times in over 90 cell cultures. We have shown that the indicative
00:47:45
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um indicative thing, the cytopathic effect, the observable effect is made by the materials alone and nothing to do with the possibility of a virus or and any pathogen within a sample. um So here, just the bottom left, just to back up what I was saying, the HEK293 cells generally regarded as it a robust and low-maintenance cell line. And another thing to look at just, you know, of interest when you start to scratch away at the protocols within these things
00:48:19
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It's kind of funny the cell lines that they use. So here's another one that's pretty standard used in isolation of quote unquote viruses is the HUH7 cell line. It's a permanent cell line established from a male hepatoma tissue which was surgically removed from a 57 year old Japanese male in 1982.
00:48:39
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And that's that's kind of the same with um nearly all of these um cell lines is is that they're not taking cell lines from healthy, strong tissue, you know, from the bicep of Arnold Schwarzenegger and trying to, you know, break it down. They're taking it from you know, this is a 57 year old Japanese male who was dying ah ah of a kidney tumor, a cancerous tumor, you know, on his body that was killing him that they've taken and frozen since 1982, you know, and and they've kept it frozen and then they unfreeze them and grow them out and then say, when they die,
00:49:17
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these already diseased tissues, that this is you know indicative of something killing them. you know You see them from, obviously, we're using them, for unfortunately, from you know embryos, from from from you know fetuses as well, you know tiny, tiny fragile little beings. you know They have hamster,
00:49:36
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um kidneys They have dog kidneys, monkey kidneys, ah and and quite a lot of lung cancer tumors as well. So it's not really a fair fight that they're that they're setting up in these supposed you know um in vitro studies. the the they are They are rigging them from the start by having diseased and and dying tissue and dying cells to start off with.
00:50:05
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So that's kind of where we deviated from ah Lanka's work. in In essence, we knew essentially what we were going to get before we started with that because it's it's very obvious that, you know, tissues break down if you starve them.
00:50:24
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Yeah, so we were confident ah before going into that that we would receive cytopathic effect. We didn't know that it would be that bad, but um we decided to go that one step further and we wanted to take a look at these cultures. So we sent these cultures off, we boxed them up, we sent them to another CRO, we sent them from one CRO to um to another via um recorded scientific posts so on dry ice all to make sure that all of the processes that we were doing it was all done under flow hood when we did all the experiments so we've documented everything in terms of contamination and chain of custody for taking samples and moving them around and sending them to make sure that we're not contaminating them in any any part and we sent them off for transmission electron microscopy
00:51:13
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Now, um we didn't, so we at the time, because it was privately funded, um we didn't have a lot of money to put towards the experiment with the transmission electron microscopy. We were kind of getting a bit thin. And so unfortunately, we had to choose a ah slightly lower package because if you if you get them to look at a a sample that could contain a virus, um then they kind of double the cost because they need to do it in the hazmat suits and all that bollocks.
00:51:43
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um So we just we got them to look ah for extracellular vesicles because we knew that there would be some, you know, somewhere within the breakdown of the of the cell line and also we didn't have a chance to actually direct them where to look where to take photographs. So bear in mind that these are photographs that they have selected.
00:52:06
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they only selected six photographs okay six photographs this is the first time that we've done it it's actually a world first of looking and and doing a ah control um study experiment of um an uninfected culture um to compare and contrast so it's a world first that we did here you know did in this experiment and they We got the CRO to look for and identify extracellular vesicles. And this is what you see in front of you. and and So you can't see the bar graph off but off to the side, but I can tell you that it's it's about 2,000 nanometers, which is way much bigger than a virus. um You can see that it's empty. You can see that it's kind of misshapen. It's quite clearly not anything that could be described as a virus, which will come in handy a little bit later.
00:53:00
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um because ah we can we can all categorically say that's that's not a virus, they've identified an extracellular vesicle. Here on the top screen in purple and a few of the other, I'll just get the pointer up again, um in the purple square,
00:53:25
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is what the CDC consider is an omicron sub-variant BA2 SARS-CoV-2 particle. um These are some of the particles around it as that are also SARS-CoV-2, according to the CDC. So if we describe it, and this is this is what we're going to do with the cell culture, we're just talking about the cell culture. There's no other indicative thing. We are moving through each of the um ah protocols, each of the methodologies that are claimed to show evidence of existence of a virus and we are going through and falsifying them one by one. So what what we will do is just talk about the physical look, the physical appearance of these particles that we're seeing. The CDC says that they're round
00:54:16
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that they have some kind of slight um coating around the around the exterior. um They contain these protein, these inclusions, which are dotted and ah in ah in a circular fashion.
00:54:32
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and ah between them here we have maybe four or five of these inclusions in that crescent format here, whereas here we have maybe about 12 to 15 in a circular format. So a slight variation, even in the the particles that they're analyzing, you can see this one's slightly bigger, this one's slightly smaller, but roughly they were all round, they all have a ah coating around the outside, they all have these protein inclusions, and they're all in a ah spherical um ah pattern.
00:55:01
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Here is our culture. ah ah From a culture that cannot possibly contain a virus, we have a round particle. You'll see that it has a coating around the outside. That coating is slightly darker, but that's just to do with the brightness, um the contrast. We got about 10 different contrasts you look and I just picked out ah the best, um the sharpest image for the contrast. So the actual grayscale is um kind of is slightly darker in most of these, um but they contain this protein inclusion um and that pro those protein inclusions are in a spherical format. um I can also tell you that this, and this is the same image from ah from previous,
00:55:46
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is this that they are exactly or very, very close to 100 nanometers in size. I've taken this is the whole image that we received from the the laboratory. um You can see the bar scale down here says 500 nanometers. So what I've done is I've cropped it out and I've kept it the same um ratio of scale up here and I've put them next to each other. And if you could see that that goes in roughly about four to five times.
00:56:13
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So you're looking at a particle which is 100 nanometers in size and here from the seat from the National Institutes of Health it states diameter of a SARS-CoV-2 particle varies from about 60 to 140 nanometers. So in our control cultures we have and A particle that looks exactly the same shape, exactly the same size, contains exactly the roughlet wall roughly the same amount of ah protein inclusions in the same spherical pattern with a coat around the outside.
00:56:49
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um So here we have um on the top what the CDC claim is a picture of a measles virus. It's ah oval. Again, we'll just describe it um it ah purely on its physical attributes. It's oval. It it contains what they label as a matrix, um this you know um particulate.
00:57:16
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interior. It contains dotted proteins. They they label these as phosphor proteins or large proteins, but they are sporadically dotted around ah the particle. It contains a viral membrane um and that's it. It's 250 nanometers in size. So on the bottom here is again from our culture. And if we can just describe what we're looking at, um again, it's oval in shape. It contains this this matrix, some some kind of ah fluid that's that's in inside the oval a particle. You see the proteins.
00:58:03
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or what could be labeled as proteins, they are sporadically dotted around and you see it's encapsulated um ah by a membrane. And again, if we go and we look at the original image, so the original image is here, the the bar graph and I've moved because in terms of identifying, you know, these particles, the the main thing is size, you know, because as you can tell from the bottom image, you know, these things are much, much larger than what, you know, is this, you know, this thing here is is much, much larger than what could be considered ah considered a virus, you know, you're talking like five five times the size, yeah.
00:58:45
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um there There's lots of things in there, but there's also ah particles that are oval in shape. This is exactly half of that bar chart. So you're talking 250 nanometers. And if we read off what the CDC claim is the size of a measles virus, it is 120 to 200 nanometers in diameter. So what you're talking about is is a particle exactly the size of a large measles virus.
00:59:18
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And there's more. In the top image here, um we see ah what um the CDC considered to be HIV virus. So again, we'll just go and we'll describe what we see in front of us. um We see and and all of these are roughly rounded, some of them are slightly misshapen, but roughly rounded um particles, they all contain this outer coating, they contain a nucleated protein mass in the middle or a fried egg type thing, and then and then a small amount of matrix in it.
00:59:54
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you see here the bottom is is a picture from our cell culture um and again let's just describe what we can see it's a roughly rounded particle it has this kind of matrix in it it has um a membrane around the outside um and most importantly it has the ah nucleated mass in the middle of fried egg you know type shape. it There's also a couple more in the image um that you can see.
01:00:26
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And so again, we'll go back to the original image where we ah pull the bar graph up and we pull it up to the site up to the size of the image and we can see that that fits in you know five times. um ah And so we'll read again from the National institute Institutes of Health, the mature HIV particle is round, measures approximately 100 nanometers in diameter. So again, we have a particle that is exactly the same size.
01:00:52
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exactly the same shape, exactly the same nucleated protein mass inside and the matrix. and So with this transmission electron microscopy, this is from six images. All of those um images that you saw were from the first six images we ever had done and we had zero control over which images to look at and we found and identified and cross-referenced by all of those metrics HIV,
01:01:27
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SARS-CoV-2 and the measles virus supposedly particles that could be identified as those within our control culture and And we could get a package um that enables us to look and choose. We get an open my open um microscope session where when they mount the slide, they give us a Skype call and we can go through and we can direct them as to where to look. And we have absolutely no, um we have,
01:02:01
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we have no doubt that we will be able to find every single virus and known to man, ah you know, in in a culture, if we had the chance, you know, in impeccable detail, we could find clusters of them, we could find anything that we wanted, if we were to be able to direct them ah around and have a look and and do even more, you know, um because in just the first six images that we've ever got, ah we managed to cross reference those. So
Transparency and Decentralized Research
01:02:30
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We've released these results and ah the part of the project is is that you know we take firm rebuttal. I take firm rebuttal. I want to hear people's criticisms of it so that we can adjust and um you know make ah our scientific findings that stronger and and for people to engage in what we're doing.
01:02:51
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um You know, unlike what virologists do which is all behind closed doors is all unquestioned it all goes on challenge they release it they peer review it and it's done you know there there is no, there is no questioning it. ah We want, we want to be different and we want to open it up to the floor and so.
01:03:08
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I've been engaging over the last few years with people on Twitter that are um their claimed professional working microbiologists and virologists. And I've interviewed a lot of them, you know, about Lanka's control studies. That's how we came up with a lot of the methodology that we use in the protocols and some of the things that we've carried out. And we wanted to find out about you know what what their thoughts were. So here we have K-State Turk, who's a he's a microbiologist in the US. s um He says, TEM is not an identity test unless it's coupled with immunostaining. Spend your money on mass spectrometry and genomic sequencing instead.
01:03:49
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Virology Truth writes, the lab states themselves that those particles could not possibly be extracellular vesicles. If they weren't, what were they? He says, I need to see the protein composition of these particles. He's not showing the data because he knows it will make him look foolish and make him look farcical. That's not true. We haven't done the proteomics. um When we do the proteomics, which we are going to do the control studies that are coming up, we certainly will show them.
01:04:18
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Val says, and this is the crucial part, what else could those particles be? And K-State Turk says, I don't know. That's why you need an identity test. So here's the crux of it is is that there is no explanation for what these particles are.
01:04:35
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Yeah, the fact that we can cross reference them so accurately with what the CDC claim they are, there is no explanation. Oh, it's not a miso-viso exosomic thing. It's I have no idea how they got there or what they're doing. Yeah. The only way that they can, you know, clarify is by taking it away and doing PCR testing or antibody testing. and He suggests immunostaining.
01:05:02
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So just when we're just looking at the the transmission electron microscopy, we have adequately falsified the fact that they cannot tell they need other methods to claim that these things that a virus exists essentially.
01:05:20
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So here we have Dr. Thomas Moore, again, another microbiologist based in Switzerland, I think he is. um He says, it's absolutely logical. They observed cytopathic effect. So what? In virus-induced cytopathic effect, one can detect the proteins in the genome of viruses. They didn't detect that. ah That means the experiment was a huge waste of money. Well, you know again, we we haven't done any of the genome sequencing. We're currently doing that at the moment.
01:05:48
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ah Brendan Tech writes, what virus caused their CPE then? Because obviously we have no virus in the culture. And Thomas Moore says, CPE is caused by many things, starvation, for example. Now it's very well known within the industry that when you starve the cell line, there are plenty of papers, all published, all peer reviewed, all put out that logically when you starve a cell line, when you reduce its nutrient mediums, the cell dies. So when people are being,
01:06:16
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you know intellectually honest, they will say that there is no proof of a virus after a cell culture isolation. You need everything into the PCR. The PCR is the last, Custer's last stand of virology. It is where all of their eggs are within the basket. And that's why we have gone public with this with these preliminary results to show everybody that this is where the game is.
01:06:45
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and a scent strand here, Thomas Baldwin, who's a plant virologist, um says, do you take that bet? If Jamie's mistreated cells, they always have to get a dig in. He believes erroneously that they're mistreated. Produce a genome that resembles a novel virus virology has falsified. So this is where we're at.
01:07:06
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Everybody admits that we're standing at the precipice and the last thing to falsify is genomics and and and PCR. So here's here's where we are. Here's here's his where the project has been brought up to. So have further studies, the PCR, the full transcriptomics, the antibodies and proteomics.
01:07:27
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the next steps we're planning to put together a lab with a thermo cycler and core lab equipment in order to test PCR samples and software um as we're unable to send off the exact controls we want within the PCR it's quite difficult because we want to control by sending in some pretty funky um samples and doing some things to try and can there's there's so many moving parts within PCR. We want to send off like just trying to put the positive control in, just trying to um ah put the primers in and nothing else, just the sample and no primers. And and and you can't really send those into a ah ah CRO because they they won't you know they will start to ask questions. And we have to do everything blinded. We have to do everything blinded because we don't want them um fudging the experiments you know if if they know what we're trying to achieve. and so
01:08:20
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Really to falsify the PCR part exactly specifically we have to kind of put a lab together to be able to do that in our own remit. We can go and in the short term we're doing full transcriptomics because if we falsify full transcriptomics Essentially, even a PCR positive, they cannot definitively tell you that the virus is in there because it's only a very short sequence. They can only say we think that it's in there, but they have to clarify with full genomic sequencing. So if we falsify the genomic sequencing further down the line, the PCR becomes moot. I would like to do the PCR just on its own, but we're we're we're kind of jumping ahead to go back, if that makes sense.
01:09:05
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um We would like to do for to ah further the first two observations experiments by buying more cell lines, we want to try and in every cell line. um As we said the HUH just to have a look the varo cell line, ah just to show that all of these cell lines break down into starvation and to see how they react.
01:09:23
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and ah We would like to offer the chance ah for people donating to propose more controlled experiments to perform. you know This is an open and live experiment. We want people to be able to engage with what we're doing, ah to get on board, to understand the processes as as well. you know This is a decentralized, um you know totally crowdfunded and totally crowdsourced experiment that we want people to participate in.
01:09:53
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you know doing it behind closed doors like virology ah experiments are done all of science is done you know behind closed doors like this we want to open this up to the floor and we are doing things like the new part of this is to show an adequate methodology for people ah for the layman to ah for the public for anybody to um see the merit in what we are doing understand and um ah come to the conclusion in their own mind that what we are doing represents good science. And so what we're doing is we are going further in our methodology, which is to take video of the methodology. Okay, we're going into the labs and we have videoed
01:10:41
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the cell culture taking place, for instance, we have videoed them taking the pipette and moving them moving around, all done within a flow hood, all done. So all of the questions of contamination can be satisfied. All ah logical questions that may arise from just the bystander of saying, is this adequate science? Does this make sense in my mind? okay That's what we want to satisfy. not peer review, because the peer review process is corrupt. yeah we're not looking I don't want this these results peer reviewed. In fact, if if a publication asked to peer review them, I would say, no, thank you. I don't want anything to do with that system. What we're doing is much, much greater. okay We are satisfying the logical mind of the greatest and most critical peer review, the people.
01:11:37
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Yeah, we want to, we have done full video. We put up every single minutia of detail, the flow hood used, the HEPA filters within these things, the you know amount of volume of wind that they're moving to satisfy every single part. These aren't done in peer reviewed papers. They just expect you to believe them, okay? And so we're going further. We want to make sure that
Legal Implications and Personal Experiences
01:12:05
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ah This new way of conducting science, a decentralized science, is actually beneficial for people's education and actually finding the truth of what is an agreed upon, agreed upon truth.
01:12:21
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um So what we're sharing with this product project, all the methodology and the materials, the chain of custody, the sourcing of materials, all of the codes, the barcodes, where we got them from will be written up in a scientific document that we are making open source. So we are making all of the results public for free. We're giving everything away.
01:12:40
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and we We're doing video explanations on how to use these documents, so what they mean and how to represent them and keep them as yourself. It can be used, for example, as the likes of Lanka and martin havelet Marvin Haviland and all the others winning based on the no virus claim in court. um As I explained before, ah Lanka won, you know, getting them to admit that there was No scientific evidence of the measles virus within a scientific publication Marvin Haviland won his ah court case. He got over 30,000 euros worth of fines for not wearing masks. um
01:13:20
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He was ah quite comically going up and in the streets of Germany and kind of tapping policemen on the back of the shoulder and saying, look, I've got no mask on. Can you can you give me a ticket? And he was ratcheting up all of these fines and eventually got into court and stood on a no virus claim. And they and they dropped his case when they realized that actually, you know, he he knew what he was talking about. And so you don't hear about these wins in court based on no virus too much. You know,
01:13:48
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Unfortunately, you know, there are a lot of well-intentioned people during 2020 that tried to challenge the government on things like lockdown, mask mandates, vaccine mandates. And unfortunately, a lot of them, I mean, notably, there was a guy called Simon Dolan in the UK, um who I followed quite closely. um He runs a private jet company and had um the fortitude to ah go and challenge the UK government on lockdown and unfortunately he lost based on quote unquote asymptomatic transmission being a thing you know and when we kind of look back at it and go you know it's it's it's a kind of eye roll thing but these are part of the processes that we have to go through to you know and and really where the the proper meat and veg of the um
01:14:34
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ah you know, the the the legal scientific um ah vehicle for for proof is within control studies, you know, within the control that is the scientific vehicle. And so we have very good standing on on what we're producing. And we want to teach people how to use them and how to back themselves scientifically and legally if 2020 ever came about. Because again, I'm based in France and you're in Canada and are, you know,
01:15:02
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governments were extremely, extremely overzealous, extremely totalitarian, you know, with the politics that they put out in 2020, you know, I had the vaccine passport here for nearly a year and, you know, my my children were banned from, you know,
01:15:19
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ah museums and and and restaurants and ah public ah you know play soft play centers, they they were banned from nearly every part of society for nearly a year, um you know, based on these ridiculous um an authoritarian um ah political political mandates or whatever you want to call them who knows what they were but um that's what we want to stop you know ultimately is by giving people the power to
01:15:53
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um and in and enabling them to back themselves. So if you meet, ah you know, if you try to travel um ah internationally. So, you know, I'm in France and I had to go back to um the UK. I wanted to go back to see, you know, my family during 2020 to 2023. And, you know, unfortunately
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01:16:16
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I had to do that ah the PCR shit thing where you so shove the thing up your nose, you know, because there was seemingly no other way for me to get back and, you know, having to do these fucking tests, you know, um to get back. And if I'd had the results, you know, if I'd had these documents to be able to show, look, you have no proof, the PCR test means nothing, you know, I can back myself legally, um you know, for
01:16:43
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getting past and getting through these these problems. and you know In school, you know they're trying to force um you know childhood vaccinations and so on and so forth. So this document can be used in numerous ways to um legally and scientifically um back yourselves.
01:17:03
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ah So this project has very kindly been hosted by Alex Zech at The Way Forward. um ah if If you do feel inclined to um ah donate to it, that's really, really helpful and very much appreciated because the more that is donated, the more control experiments we do. We've just sent off for the um genome sequencing four samples. I put out the receipt to the CRO to show that you know, we are we are doing it, the ah the quote that we had from the ah CRO and that's $6,000 for the four samples. So it's quite an expensive, probably this. um ah So or any donations would be very much appreciated and they just go into more and more science being done um and more and more controlled experiments being done and for growing and hopefully um towards making a lab so that we can um
01:17:59
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not only falsify the PCR but actually more importantly um we can go a little bit further and um you know because one of the things is is that um we have no doubt that once we get to the end of kind of falsifying this they will just tweak a few of the elements within these protocols and run them again that's what they do you know with drugs whenever a drug gets done for um you know causing harm what they do is they take it off the market they change a couple of the things you know a couple of the chemicals in it and just rerelease it that how they get around these things and so really we have to be in a live situation where we have a lab so that if they run for instance with the bird flu bullshit and you know we can just take their exact protocols their exact methodologies just run them through our controls and show them that they're talking shit again.
01:18:47
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um But you know we have to be in the position to be able to react so that you know it maybe puts them off trying a lockdown or trying you know trying all of these things. So we would like to be in the position where we can react quickly. um So that's it. Amazing. There we go. Well, thank you very much for that presentation. It's unbelievable work, what you're doing.
01:19:14
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um We'll definitely put those links down below so that all listeners can hopefully directly go right to that page and and share what they can. Cause this is truly the, this is what's really needed in this time. So how can the listener follow what you're doing? Is Twitter the best place? You seem to be quite active on there. Yeah. Twitter's good. ah Jamie underscore AA again, because I got banned so many times, and but I'm releasing all of the, um, uh,
01:19:44
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all of the results and writing a lot more long format stuff on substack so that's substack dot.com forward slash at control studies that's ah it's a bit more highbrow you know I get into all sorts of uh, tussles on, on Twitter. It's just dealing with loads of people, but you know, it's, it's a, it's a little bit nicer over on sub stack, uh, longer format. And, uh, all of the results will be the methodology, of the materials, um, uh, and the further results that we get are all going up on, uh, uh, that sub stack. So, um, Amazing.
01:20:19
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We'll put all those links down below. Honestly, I'm falling along ah real close to this. I think this is just absolutely amazing. It's what's needed. It's it's just amazing. So thank you for everything. No, thank thank you, Larry. Thank you for you know giving me the platform and and the time to you know go through it. and You know, it's, it's, it's, it's great to have your support and, you know, I'm excited, I'm excited to I just wanted to know, I just wanted to know the truth and be, you know, and, and, and see what it was I didn't know if I was kind of barking mad you know you you you kind of sit on Twitter and you go, Oh, you know, yeah and you hear about all the the virus has never been isolated you know you hear that that's the that's the hook word and
01:20:59
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you know you don't really know until you actually see it. And so that that was some of the surprising things for me, you know is opening the the transmission electron microscopy. And and you know we didn't we had absolutely no idea. And so it was kind of fun. you know it's it's like ah It's like a high school project again. you know it's um It's good to get that kind of you know um excitement about science, I guess, in a kind of geeky way. but You know, I've been um inundated with positive, you know, positivity from people that have had the same feeling that they just want to see for themselves. They want to see the truth and that and you know, and that's what it is. It's just the truth and no more and no less. And I think it's important to um bring to people and and it's a positive experience.
01:21:51
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And um you're gonna have you back on even to just discuss sort of the philosophy behind what you're doing you know I think that you'd have lots of insights there because you know what we're getting back to is true science you know we're not concerning ourselves with the profession of science with vested interest and things like that like I started off.
01:22:07
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same as you, you know, I was just curious. And I thought, you know, I was quite on the opposite side when I was studying this, this sort of material. And I woke up every day to try and disprove the claims being made by the terrain community. And, and in that, you know, I just proved it more and more true. And they kept disproving the term theory, you know, so it was just a pure curiosity and in my search. And I think that's true science. And I think we're seeing a resurgence of true science. And you mentioned decentralized science, that might be a great method.
01:22:36
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science for the people. so um i just I'd love to come back on and you know just do a show about that because again the substack is is you know kind of half about um decentralized science projects. you know I've talked about this in private, so ah given private presentations to people for the past year um on small groups are setting up other control experiments. so I've got interest there from small groups in Japan, in Venezuela, in South Africa that would all like to start their own control studies, you know, how they meet CROs, how they engage them just as laymen, because it's totally possible. It's totally possible to conduct all of this science
01:23:18
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um as as ah a layman, as crowdfunded science, and using the agreed upon um ah methodology of and an accuracy that you see within contract research organizations.
01:23:35
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you know essentially, you know, Mr. Boiler, Albert Boiler from, you know, the CEO of Pfizer, is just contracting these ah CROs. He's a businessman, you know, actually, he's a he's he his degree is in he he's his degree is of is a veterinarian, right? he's He's not doing the science himself, right? He's paying other people to do it. And so all we're doing is is is of we don't need to change any huge parts of of, you know, the infrastructure of what's already occurring it's just the bottom up approach rather than a top down. It's just kind of turning it on its head and being for the people and um I would love to yeah explain more about, you know, the philosophy behind decentralized science and
01:24:23
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you know, maybe I can and we were again talking a little bit off screen. now I'm in France and and and you're in Canada. Maybe maybe we can do small experts in French ah because I know that there are, you know, there is a little market out there for for other languages, um you know, for getting the message out there of, you know, no virus and contagion being a myth. So, um you know, maybe we can expand on it. I love that.
01:24:50
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Awesome. Well, thanks again for today. I really appreciate your time. Cheers. le And I want to thank you all for listening. You should all know that this is not medical advice or scientific advice of any kind. It's for your informational purposes only, but also remember that we are all responsible, sovereign beings, capable of thinking, criticizing, understanding, absolutely anything. We, the people in the greater forest are together, self healers, self-governable self-governable, self teachers, and so much more. Please reach out if you have any questions, criticisms, comments, concerns, whatever it is, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this episode.
01:25:20
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Um, you guys know where to find me beyond train. I'm on Twitter a little bit more now too. So if you want to holler there and, uh, I know Mr. Andrews is eager to chat about this stuff too. So, um, just reach out with anything you got. And if you took time to listen to the whole episode and you enjoyed it, give us a like, share, comment, subscribe. Sharing is the best way to help this channel, get the word out. That's really, that's really what we're here for. So that would be fantastic. You guys could do that. All right, guys. Thanks for listening. Remember there are two types of people in the world. Those believe they can, those believe they can't, and they're both correct.
01:25:50
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All right, guys, take care.