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Dr. Barre Lando on Genetic Determinism, Pleomorphism, Parasites, Viruses and More!

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In this powerful episode, we’re joined by Dr. Barre Lando to explore a radically different view of health, biology, and the body’s innate intelligence. We begin with the question: is the body better understood through biochemistry or waveforms? Dr. Lando offers a paradigm-shifting take rooted in vibrational and energetic principles.

We challenge the mainstream idea of genetic determinism, unpacking why genes are not destiny and how environment, energy, and consciousness play a far greater role in health. From there, we dive into the flaws of modern scientific methods, exposing how reductionist thinking can distort our understanding of the body.

Dr. Lando shares his own path to discovering the deeper layers of the health field, eventually leading him to embrace terrain-based principles. We explore pleomorphism, comparing ideas of linear evolution to concepts of biological expansion and transformation.

The conversation continues with powerful insights on parasites, antibiotics, and the terrain-based understanding of viruses—all building toward a greater understanding of the body’s self-regulating systems. We conclude with a look at microzymas, the foundational units of life that challenge germ theory and offer a new model for health.

This episode is packed with wisdom, depth, and a call to rethink everything we’ve been taught about biology. Tune in for a transformative conversation with Dr. Barre Lando!

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Intro

00:01:02
Beyond Terrain
We have Dr. Bear Lando on today. be thank you so much for your time.
00:01:07
Dr. Barre Lando
ah Thank you. Honored to be with you. It's going be fun. I'm looking forward to it.
00:01:11
Beyond Terrain
Absolutely. Me too. Me too. So the first question I ask all my guests, and I'm super eager to hear your response, is to get a little definition of health. What is health? What are we trying to achieve with health? How do we achieve it? How does it manifest? You can take it any direction that you'd like. I'll give you the floor and we'll take it from there.
00:01:27
Dr. Barre Lando
Pretty simple. Health is a natural state of being. It's not the absence of anything. It's just what is.
00:01:35
Beyond Terrain
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we kind of like to reduce it to that absence, this negation of disease in some way. how do How do you think that affects the way you approach healing?
00:01:47
Dr. Barre Lando
ah Well, first off, you know, I really adhere to the principles, the old, um you know, the original ah Hippocrates oath and philosophy, which is ah one of the things is a doctor is supposed to be a teacher.
00:02:04
Dr. Barre Lando
And ah what we are supposed to do is free the people that come to us for support from any false concepts that, in fact, create the absence of health ah or or substitute yeah you know their natural state for something else.
00:02:04
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:02:18
Beyond Terrain
hu
00:02:23
Dr. Barre Lando
And health is freedom. it's ah It's a realization of who we really are on the deepest level.
00:02:28
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:02:33
Dr. Barre Lando
And those limitations ah that we have superimposed on our terminologies within healthcare, things like disease and germs and all these connotations of a um bioterrain, we'll call it, you know, just our bodies being some kind of battlefield is in fact the roots of all that ails us on this planet, the roots of war, ah you know, you name it.
00:03:05
Dr. Barre Lando
If we cannot realize who we are and find peace within ourselves, and if we consider ourselves at war with our own biology or in fear of something might happen, some kind of ah flaw that we perceive or something attacking us, ah then we can't possibly achieve peace on a much larger scale.
00:03:27
Beyond Terrain
and so Yeah, very nice. I've noticed that you haven't used the terms biochemistry, molecular, chemical, atoms, things like that when you're talking about health. Is that, you know, ah obviously the way we're in this system where that's sort of taught as the absolute basis of biology.
00:03:47
Beyond Terrain
You know, you kind of view the body from a different perspective. Can I hear a little bit about how you even view our our physical vessel?
00:03:55
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah, absolutely. um And I'm not going into simulation, ah you know, ideologies or anything, you know, which ah some people, you know, that go down that route, you know, there's ah some truth to that.
00:04:10
Beyond Terrain
Mm-hmm.
00:04:10
Dr. Barre Lando
But it also suggests that maybe this is not important, you know, this ah experience, this lifetime. And it's absolutely critical because we have a lot of stake when we choose on a soul level to embody something.
00:04:24
Dr. Barre Lando
because it's an opportunity of many lifetimes. But in fact, um there's really nothing physical about it in the way we think, which doesn't make it any less real, by the way.
00:04:37
Dr. Barre Lando
It becomes very challenging for me when I'm talking to people and I've you know had this thousands of times with every single client that you know I've um you know taken care of.
00:04:49
Dr. Barre Lando
And that we have to sometimes use archaic language just to create a bridge of understanding. So we talk about, ah you know, all sorts of concepts within, ah you know, the the germ theory of disease.
00:04:55
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:05:04
Dr. Barre Lando
we We have to use terminology sometimes that has to do with molecular biology. But in fact, everything is a waveform and a waveform has certain number of dimensions and the dimensions, um the attributes of each of those dimensions of a waveform give it a certain characteristic that, you know, takes on a certain appearance.
00:05:15
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:05:30
Beyond Terrain
You see?
00:05:30
Dr. Barre Lando
In, you know, the world that we live in. And then our senses pick up those waveforms and then interpret, we interpret through our prior programming ah exactly, you know, what we visualize, what we hear, what we feel.
00:05:48
Dr. Barre Lando
So, you know, the greatest sages of all time ah came to that understanding and allowed them to see through the, ah let's just say, the superstition of materialism.
00:06:03
Dr. Barre Lando
And then more important was when that happens, then you're able to be master of your world, which is what we are here to learn how to do.
00:06:16
Beyond Terrain
Absolutely. And that's no small task. It's quite an amazing journey.
00:06:20
Dr. Barre Lando
But it's an amazing adventure. Yeah, just exactly.
00:06:24
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Definitely. So I kind of like to hear your thoughts, you know, on say something like our genetics right because i feel like this you know inheritance these inheritance patterns and you know sort of along the lines of discussion of nature versus nurture when it comes to the manifestation of our our psychological bodies our spiritual bodies and even our you know physical manifestations um
00:06:58
Beyond Terrain
Is there some truth to this whole genetic idea where we have stuff in us that sort of dictates our health or who we are? Or is it more along the lines of this energetical realm?
00:07:13
Beyond Terrain
and you know, the environment afterwards has more to do with the state of who we are than what we're born with. Is that is that clear?
00:07:22
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah, absolutely. um You know, what I think you're referring to is genetic determinism. Any kind of determinism, whether it's genetics or astrology, thinking that we're a victim of the stars that we're born under, you know, we have to understand certain influences, but also understand that we are to master all of that.
00:07:28
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:07:45
Dr. Barre Lando
So genetics, you have to, you know, we have... Definitely, you know, within the field of ah technological and what we consider scientific fields, you know, they isolate certain things that, you know, can actually sometimes be observable.
00:08:01
Dr. Barre Lando
Sometimes they have to be conjectured about or theorized, and and the latter is more true in most cases.
00:08:07
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:08:07
Dr. Barre Lando
And genetics is no exception.
00:08:09
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:08:10
Dr. Barre Lando
But what we have to appreciate is that what we isolate as the building blocks of genetics are done out of living structures. In other words, they're isolated from the living whole.
00:08:24
Dr. Barre Lando
And just like anything that it come that is you know isolated and brought out into an external environment, then it's going to take on different characteristics.
00:08:34
Dr. Barre Lando
And then all we can do is theorize about it because we cannot see it in vivo. In other words, within a living consciousness, not just a living biology, but a living consciousness. So
00:08:46
Beyond Terrain
Wow.
00:08:46
Dr. Barre Lando
um And my firm opinion is that what we consider DNA are actual, ah it's an encoded um light.
00:08:49
Beyond Terrain
Wow.
00:08:58
Dr. Barre Lando
um And light, I'm not talking about particles like photons, but waveforms, again, of certain characteristics that embody all the experience that we have ever put into motion.
00:08:59
Beyond Terrain
wow
00:09:12
Dr. Barre Lando
And that does have a great...
00:09:13
Beyond Terrain
wow
00:09:15
Beyond Terrain
Thank you.
00:09:15
Dr. Barre Lando
influence on certain habitual things that might be visualized occurring between family members, even certain maladies that we might call disease and things.
00:09:31
Dr. Barre Lando
But when we understand the true nature of you know DNA or genetics, then we understand it's a product of our consciousness. And any time, again, we come to that greater state of awareness, we can change it.
00:09:45
Dr. Barre Lando
And the wonderful thing is that when any individual within, ah let let's say, a genetic lineage grows that awareness, then it frees everybody before and after.
00:09:59
Beyond Terrain
Wow. Yeah, quite the power in that.
00:10:02
Dr. Barre Lando
Oh, absolutely.
00:10:04
Beyond Terrain
Yeah, amazing. You know, we We talk a lot about you know some of the methods used in the modern scientific lab and some of the problems associated with them, obviously, in the empirical tradition.
00:10:19
Beyond Terrain
ah Say something like you know taking a cell and blending it and then centrifuging it and adding a bunch of chemicals and then getting this precipitate and calling it DNA. Right?
00:10:31
Dr. Barre Lando
Exactly. like
00:10:31
Beyond Terrain
For example, um you know, another example of something like electron microscopy, where you have to freeze it, stain it with heavy metals, you have to dehydrate and rehydrate it with some sort of chemical gel and all of these different steps that are used in these techniques, you know, and then we call it empiricism.
00:10:49
Beyond Terrain
it is there any validity to some of these techniques that are being used in the lab today? Because I know you spend a lot of time in the lab, but you certainly take the alchemical tradition of of lab work rather than this modern, you know, super materialistic way of looking at things.
00:11:07
Beyond Terrain
You know, is there validity in some of these techniques that we're using nowadays in the modern lab?
00:11:12
Dr. Barre Lando
I think there's some validity and I'll isolate this to medicine because that's my wheelhouse. um
00:11:18
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:11:19
Dr. Barre Lando
And also, you know, I practice on a conventional side. I was in emergency medical services before i you know, started looking into other areas.
00:11:26
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:11:30
Dr. Barre Lando
And so when we would take labs to you know certain you know determine a certain assays are up or um you know blood values for certain elements, um it gave us clues on how to keep the body alive.
00:11:45
Dr. Barre Lando
And so I think in certain circumstances with urgent care medicine, when it's life and death situations or critical care units, ah yeah, there's there's some value in that.
00:11:45
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:11:58
Beyond Terrain
Thank you.
00:11:59
Dr. Barre Lando
The problem is, is we extrapolate that or use it as a showcase, so to speak, to um apply to all the vast other areas of medicine.
00:12:10
Dr. Barre Lando
And urgent care is just a fraction of the conventional medical field, but it's all based on a trust system of what we do in urgent care, which is spectacular. I've And we brought a lot of folks back key knowde without heartbeat and so forth, ah you know blood loss and hypovolemic and you know all the things that would kill them.
00:12:32
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:12:36
Dr. Barre Lando
And here's the thing, too. um This is a note to all the urgent care practitioners out there. I think, you know, we used to do some sort of heroic things.
00:12:47
Dr. Barre Lando
However, the the life or death of that individual we were working with was not up to us. We did mechanical things, but on another level, it wasn't their time.
00:13:01
Dr. Barre Lando
And so they had near-death experience for a reason.
00:13:01
Beyond Terrain
Mm-hmm.
00:13:06
Dr. Barre Lando
And I think we were useful tools. to help them stay within their body if their creator presence, whatever you want to refer it to, um you know had more work for them to do within this realm. So even within that realm of urgent care, we we can't get too full of ourselves. But to answer your question, yeah, I see some value.
00:13:31
Dr. Barre Lando
But the rest of medicine, which is, you know I don't know how to put a percentage, probably like 95% of, you know, all the other kind healthcare.
00:13:39
Beyond Terrain
sure
00:13:41
Dr. Barre Lando
No, it leads us astray more than not. And it actually leads us away from our true selves. And it's very disempowering, even though it, well, it's disempowering because it feeds our misconceptions, our anxieties.
00:13:59
Dr. Barre Lando
And, um and, you know, I think that's great detriment.
00:14:05
Beyond Terrain
Sure, sure. No, very well put. And I completely agree. You know, and I've thought about that a lot, this whole idea of of modern medicine, ah you know, emergency medicine, sorry, you know, kind of bringing people back from, you know, after their near death experiences. And I really, really do appreciate your take.
00:14:22
Beyond Terrain
Because I've come to kind of a similar conclusion. Like I thought initially I was like, are we interfering with sort of the creators, ah you know, what they want, right? With the the path that was set for us. Are we interfering with that? But um like you said, the creator uses all of creation as a tool. And so obviously it wasn't ah necessarily these these individuals time to to move on. And so um I do really appreciate that perspective. And I suppose, so you know,
00:14:50
Beyond Terrain
I think where the real problem comes with when I was and asking that earlier question, you know, is in sort of the theoretical side of things, like how we conceptualize the body itself. How do we understand what our body is? How does it function? How does it work? And you brought up Hippocrates earlier. So in university, I took a ah introduction.
00:15:11
Beyond Terrain
What was it? It was introduction. Sorry, it was. History of Modern Medicine, Birth of the Body. And it was a class centered around Hippocrates' teachings. And we went way back, you know, 500 BC and talked about Hippocrates and his work.
00:15:26
Beyond Terrain
ah We talked about Galen and we talked about all these guys. And, you know, it was really interesting taking this course. It was one of the best university courses that I took because of the professor. He made it ah definitely what it was.
00:15:38
Beyond Terrain
um
00:15:39
Dr. Barre Lando
ah Sorry, you just closed up a little bit, so I didn't hear about 20 seconds of that.
00:15:40
Beyond Terrain
You know, a lot of the questions remained unanswered in this day and age.
00:15:47
Beyond Terrain
Okay, no problem. Just my my, the history, birth of the body ah course surrounding Hippocrates. You know, we were we were talking about a lot of these topics that remain unanswered. Like, ah back in the day, the they didn't dissect individuals after they passed, right? So they didn't know about our anatomy because, you know, they said a dead body is not going to act like a live body.
00:16:11
Beyond Terrain
So why would we cut a dead person open to see how the the body works, right? And I was like... I raised my hand and I was like, you know, how do we know that's true to today? Like, you know, how have we answered this question? Can we actually answer this question? And, you know, it it spurred on this great discussion in the class. But, you know, so many of these original teachings are...
00:16:32
Beyond Terrain
And assumptions are still not known today. where We run on so many assumptions in sort of this modern way of conceptualizing the body. And obviously, one of the biggest assumptions is that we are just material and we are, you know, chemicals and we have these biochemical reactions. You know, that's certainly the foundation of what's being taught today. And You know, I suppose a lot of these techniques, especially when it comes to anatomy, like we look at ah Harold Hillman's work, you know, and with electron microscopy, you know, disproving this idea of a lot of these cellular superstructures that we understand ribosomes, cell membranes, ah even something like the synapse in our neural system. You know, we have no clue about the real anatomy of the body. So,
00:17:17
Beyond Terrain
I'm kind of just curious from from your perspective, you obviously take this, you know, much different view of the internal workings, as we pointed out earlier. How do you go about learning a better representation of the body rather than this materialistic, you know, worldview that we take, you know, in academia nowadays?
00:17:37
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah. um I don't like to throw the baby out with the bathwater on either side. um When I had to do dissection, you know, in a regular four-year medical curriculum, and I had to do three times conventional naturopathic four-year college and chiropractic college.
00:17:43
Beyond Terrain
Sure. Sure.
00:17:56
Dr. Barre Lando
And so...
00:17:57
Beyond Terrain
Wow.
00:17:57
Dr. Barre Lando
First year of each one, we did a full dissection. You're given a body and that's that's your material for the you know full two semesters for the year.
00:18:09
Dr. Barre Lando
And you pick it apart you know ah piece by piece.
00:18:10
Beyond Terrain
wow
00:18:12
Dr. Barre Lando
Now, I thought that was absolutely ghoulish. And there's part of me that didn't like it at all. And then on the other hand, it does help you understand structure, but it does not teach you how those work in the living system.
00:18:30
Dr. Barre Lando
So there is some value.
00:18:30
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:18:31
Dr. Barre Lando
And then also on a conventional side, if you stop there, then you think that's the way things really work. For example, in conventional um medical science, they say that after a certain age, your cranial bones fuse at the sutures, there's many sutures in your head.
00:18:51
Dr. Barre Lando
And any craniopath worth his salt ah trains themselves how to feel the movement.
00:18:52
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:18:59
Dr. Barre Lando
There's distinct movement. So ah the reason why they believe sutures ossify and there's no movement is because they see that on cadavers.
00:19:12
Dr. Barre Lando
And that's true on cadavers.
00:19:13
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:19:14
Dr. Barre Lando
ah There was an Italian a segment of the medical ah field over there that did studies in different ways and said, no, actually the cranial bones are moving all the time. And if they didn't, you'd be dead.
00:19:29
Dr. Barre Lando
So, you know, that's just a simple example.
00:19:29
Beyond Terrain
Wow.
00:19:34
Dr. Barre Lando
But as far as the real morphology of the human body, what has been helpful to me was to um go deeply into the old alchemical skulls.
00:19:41
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:19:48
Dr. Barre Lando
Now, when we say alchemical for folks that are not ah familiar or or have an appreciation for what that really is, ah just think of all chemistry, not just you know the end products of waveforms that you see in a lab or you know in traditional ah science.
00:19:48
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:20:09
Dr. Barre Lando
But you're actually seeing both sides of the equation. You're seeing the energetic principles that actually create those after effects. And the value, of course, is you then understand how the universe works and therefore how you work and what your potentials are.
00:20:26
Dr. Barre Lando
So in the alchemical sciences, you understand the etheric mechanisms. And those etheric mechanisms have a very um defined function according to those stratifications. So i'm kind of making a little materialistic here, but just to talk about it.
00:20:47
Dr. Barre Lando
And at each one of those levels, certain things happen.
00:20:47
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:20:50
Dr. Barre Lando
Things happen that can even be understood from a Western perspective. You know, we can assign instead of the old alchemical, ah you know, fire, ah you know, water, air you know, salt, all that kind of stuff, earth.
00:21:04
Dr. Barre Lando
um We can confine it or or use molecular terminologies, you know, like hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen and carbon. But at each one of those, we can then demonstrate, even for the satisfaction of our Western brains, how certain things happen, how initial idea or consciousness, that fire element, you know, that is represented by ah hydrogen, you know, within our Western concept.
00:21:33
Dr. Barre Lando
And then things coagulate and then nitrogen, you know, the next level down, which would be air in the old, you know, system of thinking.
00:21:40
Beyond Terrain
Thank you.
00:21:41
Dr. Barre Lando
And we can even look outside, you know, in nature and see how when nitrogen increases in the atmosphere, like when things are getting cold, ah then it, you know, increases the viscosity of the sap and trees and cuts off that lifeblood to the outer branches and leaves and leaves wither and die and you know, so all these principles are, you know, demonstrated to us all around. And then the next level, the transmitting utility, when we water, there's a fermentation process.
00:22:15
Dr. Barre Lando
And in the alchemical lab, fermentation means you're actually separating the parts, you know, identifying the three components that compose all life forms that are a product of those four stratifications. The fourth one is the you know we consider the carbon or the earth realm where things actually precipitate into the full after effects that we perceive as real but those four and we won't go into you know detail on how but each level or combination of levels creates one of the three attributes and what i'm getting at to is the actual structure or anatomy of the body
00:22:40
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:22:44
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:22:54
Dr. Barre Lando
And in the alchemical terms, they talk about mercury as kind of that prana, chi, you know, spirit that moves through all things kind of thing.
00:22:55
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:23:03
Dr. Barre Lando
And then we have the, you know, the salt, which is the calcification, the body. And then we have the sulfur, which is the individualized soul. Now, if you get into Steiner's work a little bit, and I don't, you know, I, I learned from wherever I can, but I try not to just become ah zealot for any one school of thought, but Steiner had a lot of good stuff.
00:23:17
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:23:25
Dr. Barre Lando
And what he understood him and Goethe is ah the metamorphosis of the body from those stratifications. And they um can yeah identify those three alchemical divisions into parts of the body. For instance, the sulfur is the metabolism. It's, you know, the the soul is the metabolism, the thing that actually individualizes and makes things work, makes energy, what we would think of in biology.
00:23:54
Dr. Barre Lando
ah that The salt is actually the part of the um ah neurology.
00:23:59
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:24:01
Dr. Barre Lando
and the neurology. And we could you know talk at length about each of these. And then the other part, the extremities, kind of the spirit, because that's what ambulates us.
00:24:07
Beyond Terrain
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:12
Dr. Barre Lando
It's moving and you know it's how we exercise our our will form.
00:24:13
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:24:16
Dr. Barre Lando
So when I'm practicing medicine, I look at the body in those compartments. you know I look at it as a whole, but I also understand manifestations of, let's just say, the lack of health. um You can start pinpointing on what of those three components really needs attention and ah start you know coming up with more solutions that way.
00:24:41
Dr. Barre Lando
You can even take those three divisions down to the microbial level. Because it never stops.
00:24:46
Beyond Terrain
Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:48
Dr. Barre Lando
And down to the elements, the, um you know, the metallic elements we think of as minerals that are the capacitors that hold the resonance that then our cells get their information from to build the body in the first place.
00:25:03
Dr. Barre Lando
So it's a much deeper understanding.
00:25:03
Beyond Terrain
Mm-hmm.
00:25:06
Dr. Barre Lando
It's living, but you may not be able to see that in a conventional laboratory or under a microscope, but you can demonstrate those functional principles in medicine or in a different kind of laboratory where you're making preparations from minerals and minerals.
00:25:28
Dr. Barre Lando
ah You know, i can, you know, which I've done is I take rainwater, filter it, and end up making 12 different components, nothing added, nothing subtracted, just the same original water.
00:25:41
Dr. Barre Lando
And each one of them has different attributes that you can actually measure. How does that happen?
00:25:46
Beyond Terrain
Wow. Yeah.
00:25:48
Dr. Barre Lando
That's called transmutation. And the law of transmutation is what makes us tick. It's what the old alchemist understood. um And then when we get into waveform mechanics, we can start to westernize it a little bit as far as understanding how those waveforms are associated with every single one those processes and how, in fact, we're the originator of...
00:26:10
Dr. Barre Lando
That initial idea or spark that created the electricity, the polarize it went all the way down to the stratification in the first place.
00:26:19
Beyond Terrain
Yeah, amazing. That's one of the things that you do so well is you you can really bridge these, you know, these teachings that have been around for thousands of years with the modern way of sort of even speaking about something to make it, you know, kind of clear to understand.
00:26:28
Dr. Barre Lando
but
00:26:36
Beyond Terrain
So I really appreciate that. And if that doesn't get you excited to learn about alchemy, I don't know what will. I'm like, I got to go read some more some more books here on Alika because that's something I've kind of been neglecting a little bit here in my in my study. But um one of the hot topics, and you brought it up briefly, is the microbial system. And I would love to talk about it because i do think that this is one of the areas that our modern techniques
00:27:04
Beyond Terrain
that doesn't allow us to see the pleomorphic nature of microbes because we're not looking at our micro systems in live states.
00:27:10
Dr. Barre Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:27:12
Beyond Terrain
Obviously we have like a dark field microscope that allows us to really see, you know, the pleomorphic nature of of microbes. But, um, obviously these are not in the laboratory either in, ah you know, in any academic institution that I know of, at least you might know of a couple of hidden ones around the, around the place, but, um,
00:27:32
Beyond Terrain
Yeah, usually not. Usually, you know, they're still working within the framework of dead matter, stains, heavy metals, different things like that. um I'd love to maybe just hear your thoughts on what clear morphism is to begin with and and maybe any points about our microbial system.
00:27:48
Beyond Terrain
And then we can probably move into a little bit deeper of a discussion on that topic. like
00:27:52
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah, pleomorphism is simply the law of um transmutation and action. And there's nothing that escapes those cyclic changes that happen in the world of appearances.
00:27:59
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:28:06
Dr. Barre Lando
So it brings up another point. When we are looking at things more mechanistically, then we like to say that's the way it is. We have we like to fixate on certain isolated things and say that's a fact.
00:28:20
Dr. Barre Lando
Well, in fact, if you stood around and watched ah a certain mineral for a few thousand years, you might see one element change into an entirely different element on a periodic table.
00:28:33
Dr. Barre Lando
Of course, you're not going to do that by watching it on a tabletop somewhere. You have to get inside the living body of the earth that has its own consciousness and faculties that create that effect.
00:28:43
Beyond Terrain
chair
00:28:50
Dr. Barre Lando
So things are always in flux, including ours, you know, our our own bodies. I look a lot different than I used to, you know, 50 years ago. um So everything is about change. Now, when it comes to microbes, there are certain innate organisms that live within us and they yeah We aren't going into Darwinian evolution here.
00:29:13
Dr. Barre Lando
That's a different kind of thing. But, you know, we have evolved in the sea. I like to say expanded evolved to suggests sort of a linear progression, whereas evolution should be thought as more of a multidimensional expansion.
00:29:22
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:29:27
Dr. Barre Lando
But we'll use evolution for the heck of it.
00:29:28
Beyond Terrain
Love it.
00:29:30
Dr. Barre Lando
As we evolve, um certain organisms, microorganisms have evolved with us. Now, we're talking about the three divisions of the body that Steiner talked about and and what I recognize the way I work.
00:29:46
Dr. Barre Lando
um Each one of those has a different germ layer of tissue that I'm not talking about microbes, but the germ layers, for instance, that ambulation part that we're likening to the mercury ah that is the, the, the mesoderm, you know, the stuff that makes the muscles that make things move and so forth.
00:30:06
Dr. Barre Lando
And um with the mesoderm, certain microbes that have an affinity
00:30:07
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:30:13
Dr. Barre Lando
for doing special work within those tissues that would evolve into our body parts later on um they evolve with it and become our permanent eco partners ah the same thing the ectoderm that makes the nervous system tissue different ah types of little micro creatures again that become the eco-bionts or partners of that tissue. And therefore, for the life of our body, um you know, the organs and tissues that evolve from that germ level.
00:30:45
Dr. Barre Lando
And then the endoderm that has more to do with our organs. And the i'm just simplifying because there's overlap and stuff.
00:30:51
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:30:52
Dr. Barre Lando
um You know, similarly has its own little partners on the microbial level that develop with it. Now, so the reason for that is because so microbes are the little worker bees and they are going to for the life of the body.
00:31:09
Dr. Barre Lando
And let me just say something else beyond the life of the body, because those are living sentient beings that are peopling our own universe that we are the God of.
00:31:26
Dr. Barre Lando
so don't think that their journey stops when we change bodies they move on as we do and there's a whole evolutionary process and opportunity for the expansion of their awareness as well um so there's a whole psychic life of microbes that goes along with this that goes a little deeper but
00:31:26
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Wow.
00:31:45
Beyond Terrain
well
00:31:53
Dr. Barre Lando
now those microorganisms when there's a certain issue in the body uh for instance something needs to regenerate or something ah needs to be cleaned up you know maybe some old spent tissues or toxicities then they will change into different life cycles that will act as scavenger
00:32:04
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:32:17
Dr. Barre Lando
Now, in before when we were talking off air, you brought up Gaston Nassant. And not just with him, but also with people that predated him, Gunther Enderlein, notably, they identified 16 life cycle ah stages.
00:32:25
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:32:36
Dr. Barre Lando
That would go from little seed forms that, you know, very, very tiny. They look like little sparkling lights darting around under a live cell microscope slide, which I used extensively for many years, ah you know, looked at the blood of everybody.
00:32:53
Dr. Barre Lando
I didn't jump to conclusions just with what I saw there, but it was a very important tool. And then you would see right before your eyes, uh, from that stage, which would be, you know, maybe about 0.5 micron size, which is interestingly the proximate size of what conventional medicine considers a virus.
00:32:59
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:33:18
Dr. Barre Lando
Um, and enough on that, but then you would see them go through ah stages where two would come together and then a membrane forms. And then, you know, you see a little head on each side of this membrane. And then all of a sudden it coalesces into a singular kind of like little creepy crawler worm-like thing that's swimming around. We call that a chandret.
00:33:43
Dr. Barre Lando
And then from there, ah different formations until you get up in the higher valences and
00:33:46
Beyond Terrain
Okay.
00:33:50
Dr. Barre Lando
Now, all of a sudden, you see what conventional science, what I learned in medicine, as you know the three types of bacteria. And then beyond that, they would start growing branches and look like fungus.
00:34:04
Dr. Barre Lando
But each one of those stages, the important takeaway is they have a certain function at each of those stages. So that is pleomorphism. Now, besides just looking at those three germ layers and the microbes that evolve with those to be permanent helpers with us, um yeah you know, because they have an affinity, then there are also ah categorizations, we'll say, you know, according to traditional pleomorphism of different kind of organisms that will also have an affinity for different types of tissues in the body, like aspergillus nigerum.
00:34:42
Dr. Barre Lando
ah One of our little partners in there, ah you know, has important functions for the lymphatic system and the lungs and mucoracemosis for the cardiovascular system, candida paracillosis for, you know, the gut and, you know, all the the oral cavity and and and so on and so forth.
00:34:43
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:35:03
Dr. Barre Lando
And so in medicine, you can use that to great advantage um in a number of ways. I'll just stop there and and you kind of get me back on the tracks.
00:35:11
Beyond Terrain
Sure. Yeah. No, no, that's perfect. You know, one thing I was kind of curious about, ah you know, was the role of of parasites. You know, we kind of come from the idea that parasites, again, don't cause disease. They still have this bioremediary role.
00:35:28
Beyond Terrain
You know, they can still help maybe in the very late stages of disease at some points. um do they fit into pleomorphism? Like, I was curious if if that was something that you ever saw, ah like in the later stages, you know, maybe even past the fungal stage. I'm just kind of curious if you've ever encountered that.
00:35:46
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah, absolutely. Parasites go through cyclic changes as well. They have an important function. you know If an animal dies out in the forest here you know surrounding our farm, um they're on the spot and they gobble things up and you know clean up the forest floor. and you know It's an important function. They do the the same thing in your body. you know We all have parasites. Yeah.
00:36:10
Dr. Barre Lando
But they only become problematic when our bioterrain becomes askew, becomes out of balance. Then they're not out of any pathogenic tendency trying to harm us, but they're opportunistically multiplying, growing in size, growing.
00:36:31
Dr. Barre Lando
And doing what they do because there's a lot of stuff to gobble up, you know, maybe in a toxic environment. And they are just acting as scavengers and they're saying, thank you very much. there's There's a lot to sustain ourselves with here.
00:36:46
Dr. Barre Lando
So um I would use...
00:36:50
Dr. Barre Lando
occasionally anti-parasitics for the, for the, for this reason, if somebody was coming in with, ah and again, i have to use conventional terminologies, end stage cancer, which we'll just say it for now.
00:37:08
Dr. Barre Lando
um And, you know, but they're literally on the ropes. They're not going to be in their body. And, you that's the reality. That's what I used to see all the time. So, very often in that state, the body also outgrowth of my ah microorganism imbalances and parasitic imbalances.
00:37:32
Dr. Barre Lando
So if I were to just do a very judicious um little cycle of an antiparasitic, which I would favor something like frequencies,
00:37:48
Dr. Barre Lando
Sometimes I would use chemical means like very pure, great of turpentine. ah
00:37:55
Beyond Terrain
Okay. Sure.
00:37:56
Dr. Barre Lando
People that are a turpentine tend to go off the deep end and say it's for whatever ails you. But I had a way to very carefully monitor the body so I wouldn't overstay my welcome because there can, you know, it's a little bit harsh in other ways.
00:38:07
Beyond Terrain
chair
00:38:09
Dr. Barre Lando
But I would knock down the populations of say a parasite because they're excreting their own waste products in the blood, not helping anything at that point. Again, not their fault.
00:38:21
Dr. Barre Lando
And also gobbling up a lot of nutrition. So that would help me create a little window of opportunity just to allow people to get a little bit more wind back in their sales.
00:38:35
Dr. Barre Lando
And then other things would work better. And there's, you know, with this whole scam that happened, um, you know, in the last few years, ah there's ah something that became very popular.
00:38:50
Dr. Barre Lando
um Am I allowed to say medicines and things? and
00:38:53
Beyond Terrain
Say it. Yeah. The big old ivermectin.
00:38:54
Dr. Barre Lando
I've remembered. Yeah. And so, you know, it helps a lot of people for the same reason, but there's a great toll on the back end.
00:39:02
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:39:05
Dr. Barre Lando
It sterilizes a lot of the populations, just like antibiotics do of,
00:39:05
Beyond Terrain
Hmm.
00:39:12
Dr. Barre Lando
um very beneficial and necessary organisms that you need later on. And now you leave yourself open, you know, to other things. And of course they think they're curing COVID, which doesn't exist the way they think it does.
00:39:27
Dr. Barre Lando
And, but, you know, some people say, Hey, I feel better. And all that tells me is, Oh, okay. You know, And your system was out of balance in the first place, which is why you're taking that stuff, but it's working.
00:39:39
Dr. Barre Lando
You're going to have a price to pay on the back end, and it's not working for the reasons why you think it's working. And if you really wanted to play that game, then you should maybe take a little round of turpentine.
00:39:45
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:39:49
Dr. Barre Lando
Instead, it's going to be a lot healthier for you.
00:39:52
Beyond Terrain
True, true, absolutely.
00:39:54
Dr. Barre Lando
um and And the same thing with the microorganisms that are innate to our system, some of those ones that I alluded to. Now, when they go into these higher valences because they have a job to do, maybe scavenger kind of job or something, but we fail to support them in the job they're doing, then you get in sort of a hanging conflict where they...
00:40:17
Dr. Barre Lando
to overstay their welcome. Again, not because they're pathogens, you know, like one particular progression into a bacterial form, we might recognize as staphylococcus, which is an outgrowth of something that actually is a seed living in us and is very beneficial.
00:40:32
Dr. Barre Lando
It's there doing the job. On the other hand, And it doesn't go away because it can't complete its job because the biotrain is out of whack and we are failing to support it.
00:40:44
Dr. Barre Lando
And then so I might go in with isopathics of a certain type or other remedies and just sort of corral that in, but not to kill it, but to downregulate it into the forms that aren't going to you know be posing a stress.
00:40:44
Beyond Terrain
Interesting.
00:41:01
Dr. Barre Lando
And then, of course, take care of the reason why they're overstaying their welcome in the first place.
00:41:06
Beyond Terrain
Sure, sure. Very well put. You know, I'm curious if you could comment on penicillin, right? Because, you know, the original discovery, you know, might fit into this conversation and, you know, how it's used today. I'm just kind of curious ah about your thoughts on that. i I don't know too much about it, so I'm really eager to hear what you have to say about it.
00:41:28
Dr. Barre Lando
So ah first off, I'll throw the conventional medical system a bone. And I'll say, if a person is so far gone where...
00:41:43
Dr. Barre Lando
systemically ah these organisms, again, not because they're causal or pathogens, but are creating such havoc and there's not enough time, or let's just say you're not with a bioterrain physician, you're on that other side.
00:42:00
Dr. Barre Lando
um You know, things can get a little bit out of hand and you can have a systemic sepsis and antibiotics and that level can be lifesaving.
00:42:10
Beyond Terrain
sure
00:42:10
Dr. Barre Lando
um It's stupid, you know, because you're using them, you know, it's like going in rather than having ah normal relationships with your neighbor, you just go over and nuke them, you know, um but it works.
00:42:10
Beyond Terrain
Absolutely.
00:42:23
Beyond Terrain
You're not addressing the root cause, right?
00:42:25
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:42:26
Beyond Terrain
yeah. yeah
00:42:27
Dr. Barre Lando
Okay, but here's the other side which far outweighs the benefits. So the folks that live in different worlds and aren't you know really willing to take responsibility, okay, use them, but it's going to take its toll.
00:42:33
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:42:41
Dr. Barre Lando
And here's how it happens.
00:42:44
Dr. Barre Lando
A tumor, we'll call a tumor, um it's a biological expression.
00:42:44
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:50
Dr. Barre Lando
And it is for our benefit. And we could go on many levels of biology um all the way to the level of our psyche on how that tumor actually is designed to help us.
00:43:01
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:43:05
Dr. Barre Lando
And it will also go through a two-phase predictable life cycle of its own. And if...
00:43:15
Dr. Barre Lando
we are able to support what it's doing for us to heal us, it will go away. Now in the end stage, we're talking about a growth.
00:43:26
Dr. Barre Lando
There's different kinds of organisms that get active in the first stage and it gets a little bit more complex that way, but we'll just keep it simple. And the the ones that work on the second phase on a growth in the body, um,
00:43:40
Dr. Barre Lando
When the biological expression is first initiated, those organisms that are going to be needed in that second stage are already there with the process. they're They're waiting. You know, it's how the body works.
00:43:52
Dr. Barre Lando
And that's why embryologically certain organisms, ah you know, align with certain tissues. And when a tissue makes a move in some level, those organisms are right with it. They're inseparable.
00:44:03
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:04
Dr. Barre Lando
And now when that tumor has done its job, then those organisms are going to transmutate into a scavenger form and they're going to gobble up the tissue that is no longer necessary and it's going to go away. And in fact, that happens all the time in our bodies and we don't even know it.
00:44:25
Dr. Barre Lando
Things are coming and going and that's why sometimes, well, maybe early detection, good idea or not, I don't know. Um, so, uh, yeah, we don't even know it, but however, when it gets into a hanging conflict, because maybe those, that second stage can't resolve and the tumor can't be digested properly because we overused antibiotics at some point in our life and sterilizes organisms that are needed to scavenge, you got problems. In fact, I would say that antibiotics are one of the main contributors of what we consider,
00:45:01
Dr. Barre Lando
um cancer that is reticent to any kind of treatment
00:45:07
Beyond Terrain
Gotcha. Gotcha.
00:45:10
Beyond Terrain
Since you brought it up, I do want to talk about viruses for a few moments. You know, obviously, this is a hot topic.
00:45:18
Beyond Terrain
You know, do like there's a lot of talk about, you know, the actual existence of these particles, whether they're just laboratory artifacts. Obviously, using a darkfield microscope, you could see at the scale that these particles.
00:45:34
Beyond Terrain
you know, little dots exist, right? um What's your take? Do viruses exist? They might probably don't exist in the way that we think of them in our Western way, but you know, what what is your take on the virus? Does the particle exist? What role does it play? How would you even go about talking about what we think is a virus?
00:45:56
Dr. Barre Lando
So the particles, um number one, aren't isolated in a way um that can
00:46:02
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:46:07
Dr. Barre Lando
soundly be recognized to match the virus theory.
00:46:12
Beyond Terrain
Sure. Sure.
00:46:13
Dr. Barre Lando
And ribosomes, which are another little organ within cells, you know, um they also can fit the bill of that size of, you know, what we think of as virus.
00:46:30
Dr. Barre Lando
First off, viruses as pathogens, you have to go into a different mode of thinking, which is natural design inherently damages and destroys viruses.
00:46:48
Dr. Barre Lando
Now, there are factions of the natural design that maintain balance, just like a mom and dad in a family. you know Dad might kind of set some guidelines in a certain way, and then mom might you know provide more than nurturing.
00:47:03
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:47:05
Dr. Barre Lando
And what we were describing with the microbes that live within us, they do that too. Some digest materials, eat up stuff. And others nurture and, you know, stimulate stem cell production and so forth and help things regenerate.
00:47:19
Dr. Barre Lando
So it's about an ecosystem that's self-perpetuating and self-renewing. Whereas when you go into the conventional medical side, it's just these things that are destroying.
00:47:33
Dr. Barre Lando
And in order to help you, you have to destroy the things that destroys you. And that gets into the whole immunization and immunology mode of thinking.
00:47:46
Dr. Barre Lando
And the immune system is also a fallacy. When you look at components of the immune system, like antibodies and so forth, well, all antibodies are doing is stimulating, regenerating processes.
00:47:58
Dr. Barre Lando
That brings us to why I believe there's no such thing as a viral pathogen. And my eyes really open. in the early 80s when I started getting a lot of AIDS people.
00:48:13
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:48:13
Dr. Barre Lando
um People that were diagnosed with AIDS.
00:48:14
Beyond Terrain
Mm-hmm.
00:48:17
Dr. Barre Lando
And of course, the AIDS was considered a. ah Product of HIV and for HIV, we had an antibody test.
00:48:33
Dr. Barre Lando
Now, the antibody test.
00:48:33
Beyond Terrain
Mm-hmm.
00:48:35
Dr. Barre Lando
was capable of determining that there was a certain titer of a certain kind of antibody. So, and again, antibodies aren't there to fight bad guys.
00:48:50
Dr. Barre Lando
They are part of our self-renewal system. So they had to create a nexus. Dr. Fauci was at the heart of this, by the way. And so they have to have a viral theory And then they also have to have a theory that there's a link between rising titers of this antibody.
00:49:13
Dr. Barre Lando
And this antibody that would rise in amounts in the body that you could test was a result of the body healing itself.
00:49:20
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:22
Dr. Barre Lando
And it didn't have anything to do with a virus or something called AIDS. We know how AIDS started. It was a bioweapon. It was downloaded into smallpox vaccines and experimented on extensively in East Africa.
00:49:37
Dr. Barre Lando
And it worked. You know, people just got all these outgrowths of all the stuff we consider Yeah. And then they say, okay, great success. And then they brought it to the East coast and, uh, use the gay populations as a vulnerable population to create the mythology and, uh, put the same elements in hepatitis vaccine said, you guys are all you know prone to this because your lifestyle and stuff.
00:50:04
Dr. Barre Lando
And then took it to San Francisco. And that was the beginning of the whole thing. But then, uh, they perpetuated it by not um you know, you didn't, after, after the whole disease was considered a fact and here's how it happens.
00:50:22
Dr. Barre Lando
ah Now, you know, the, the final one, two punch was, was the HIV cocktails, the AZT and so forth, which would kill you. Okay.
00:50:32
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:50:32
Dr. Barre Lando
So here's how I kind of connected some dots. Can I prove it? But I saw hundreds of AIDS patients, hundreds and the vast majority all got better, even in ones who were very advanced.
00:50:45
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:50:48
Dr. Barre Lando
And nothing to do with me. i was just kind of getting a little savvy about what was going on. And maybe that the meds weren't a good idea, and and then also rebuilding their terrain.
00:50:54
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:51:00
Dr. Barre Lando
So when these people came in with the diagnosis,
00:51:01
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:51:06
Dr. Barre Lando
that titer of HIV may or may not go down as they were actually getting better. So I'm like, okay, they're free of symptoms and all by the checks that I do, you know, to ah just determine if the terrain is healthy, they're pretty good shape, but they might still have, you know, positive tests.
00:51:27
Beyond Terrain
Thank
00:51:28
Dr. Barre Lando
So what's that test, that antibody test actually telling me? Now, I saw the same thing with Epstein-Barr, hepatitis C, all these so-called um you know viral etiologies and antibody associated.
00:51:48
Dr. Barre Lando
And it was true across the board with all these things. So you know just anybody that's capable of taking care of the body properly in an aggressive way. And then also observing you're like, there doesn't seem to be a correlation between the reason why they diagnosis and then blame the systems on the thing that they use for the diagnosis.
00:52:14
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Sure.
00:52:15
Dr. Barre Lando
I think there's some reality to that. And then, you know, beyond that, ah you know, I'm very practical.
00:52:18
Beyond Terrain
chair
00:52:21
Dr. Barre Lando
I'm a farmer. So,
00:52:25
Dr. Barre Lando
They're you know great intellectual minds you know that really like to get in and read all the research in the papers. Negan talks circles around me you know as far as um you know all the the studies and research.
00:52:38
Dr. Barre Lando
um I'm not so much interested. I just want to know what works. And I think real intelligence, there's a place for that other stuff, but real intelligence is just you know common sense. Yeah.
00:52:50
Dr. Barre Lando
So I was able to just watch, uh, observe what happens when you do things and don't do other things.
00:52:51
Beyond Terrain
yeah okay
00:53:00
Beyond Terrain
yeah
00:53:01
Dr. Barre Lando
And now one of the tests that I did, and I'll finish up with this, sorry. Um, I did certain kinds of blood tests on my own in-house and didn't send out for conventional.
00:53:13
Dr. Barre Lando
But if people came in with, you know, blood tests from elsewhere, you know, actually interpreted them a little bit differently, but I, you know, I learned some things, not all watch, but the ones I did, I was able to extrapolate the elements.
00:53:21
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:53:25
Dr. Barre Lando
I would pull out of bodily fluids and put it in an electrical ah kind of format. And I use mathematics to do that would give me what we call the line of resistance because the body's electrical.
00:53:35
Dr. Barre Lando
That had much more important and practical function for me. But the point I'm trying to make is one of the components of that test is had to visualize cell debris. And cell debris is something that is just what the name implies.
00:53:50
Dr. Barre Lando
but Cells are dying and being renewed every single moment. Now, when the debris is of a high titer that is abnormally high, which means there's a lot of cell damage for some reason,
00:54:05
Dr. Barre Lando
ah Then that cell debris is in those little small micron, possibly confused with virus, you know, theory.
00:54:12
Beyond Terrain
Okay.
00:54:16
Dr. Barre Lando
And those cell debris are actually beneficial. in that they carry bits of information that stimulate the production of exosomes, x endosomes, you know, that ah start manufacturing goodies, including antibodies. They stimulate stem cell growth and so things that are part of the renewal process.
00:54:40
Dr. Barre Lando
So even when the body has a lot of circulating ah cell fragments from spent cells, they're still doing a function. And but when it was of a certain level, that also suggested that that terrains a little burden. And it also coincided with very often when people had symptoms that were confused with a virus etiology.
00:55:04
Beyond Terrain
Gotcha. Is there ever any confusion of like a viral particle with the microzyma or with the somatid protist, whatever you want to endobiotic?
00:55:16
Beyond Terrain
Is there ever any confusion between that particle and, you know, that that basis of, you know, the pleomorphic cycle?
00:55:22
Dr. Barre Lando
I believe so. um I don't know for sure, but my best guess is absolutely.
00:55:26
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:55:29
Dr. Barre Lando
ah Again, when they are visualizing with their kinds of um technology, they are not seeing things in a living state.
00:55:39
Beyond Terrain
Mm-hmm.
00:55:40
Dr. Barre Lando
So they can observe things of a certain size in abundance when certain symptoms correlate and, you know, maybe could be confused with their viral theory.
00:55:55
Beyond Terrain
Sure. Yeah, absolutely. I've heard that Nassans was able to isolate the somatid and work with it. And obviously, Antoine Bichard did some experiments with fermentation using, the he called them the microzymas.
00:56:14
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. I don't know if Bishaw had the isolate or whether he just visualized it and saw, you know, one of these jars had the microzyma and the other one didn't. And that's how he was able to determine his results.
00:56:26
Beyond Terrain
Now, is there any truth to to that being able to isolate the somatid?
00:56:32
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah, I believe we have that's what we observed all the time. And also um thought of as the seed of life within the body.
00:56:36
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:56:43
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:56:45
Dr. Barre Lando
And then you have people like Wilhelm Reich with his ah experiments that really identified these bions with these little blue auras around them that were the source of all life, the seeds of all life.
00:56:57
Beyond Terrain
Yeah. Amazing.
00:57:02
Dr. Barre Lando
That's how our body starts.
00:57:04
Dr. Barre Lando
Our body starts at the moment of conception with a seed atom. It's called for lack of a better terminology. That's kind of old school.
00:57:04
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:57:13
Beyond Terrain
Sure.
00:57:14
Dr. Barre Lando
That seed atom is the Akashic record of our soul and all of our prior experiences. that will then create a portal in which case those waveforms will ah again manifest into a living being with all the beneficial and flawed waveforms that we created through our own prior experience it is our job now to put right
00:57:47
Dr. Barre Lando
But if you look at an acorn, you know, the acorn doesn't turn into a, you know, a large oak tree because all of the elements are in the acorn.
00:57:55
Beyond Terrain
Thank you.
00:58:00
Dr. Barre Lando
It's the informational fields for the entire tree. that other levels of the ether will then be able to download all of the things for the lifetime of that tree so it manifests into a tree. Same thing as our body. So is that seed atom the, um you know, the primordial bion, so to speak? um You know, a lot to think about. i don't have all the answers, but it's kind of fun.
00:58:31
Beyond Terrain
Absolutely. I like thinking about this stuff, too. And I think that's a really amazing point you made, the acorn, you know, and it it showcases sort of the role of the environment, too, because the acorn can't grow up in the Arctic.
00:58:45
Beyond Terrain
You know, it needs the right environment to manifest as well.
00:58:46
Dr. Barre Lando
yeah And just like we embody into the perfect circumstances we need in order to fulfill our mission as an an expanding consciousness on the soul level.
00:59:01
Beyond Terrain
Wow, beautiful. Well, Dr. Lando, I think this is probably a great time to wrap things up. I feel like we did a little bit of a beautiful cycle there in and of itself.
00:59:05
Dr. Barre Lando
Okay.
00:59:09
Beyond Terrain
So I'd love to ask for any final thoughts on the episode, anything that you want to leave the listener with this time.
00:59:15
Dr. Barre Lando
No, I think it was a fun discussion, and and I think you did a great job just kind of leading it there because I can go off on tangents if I'm not careful. But no, it was it was great. And the only thing I'd like to maybe leave your audience with is, you know, we threw out maybe some unfamiliar terminologies. Your audience is probably pretty sophisticated, i would imagine.
00:59:39
Dr. Barre Lando
But still, all this stuff is not rocket science.
00:59:40
Beyond Terrain
Oh, they're great.
00:59:43
Dr. Barre Lando
And everything that I speak on can be demonstrated in the farm, you know, in the laboratory, in the human body, in the practice of medicine.
00:59:44
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
00:59:53
Dr. Barre Lando
And it's way more common sense, logical, and simplified than everything I had to learn in medical school, which leads to nothing but blind end theories and disease and death, basically.
01:00:02
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
01:00:05
Beyond Terrain
Yeah.
01:00:08
Beyond Terrain
Absolutely.
01:00:09
Dr. Barre Lando
yeah
01:00:10
Beyond Terrain
Yeah, absolutely. Wow. That's great. And and Dr. Orlando, where can the listeners learn more from you? You obviously have an amazing podcast that you co-host with. We just had Mike Winter on actually not not too many episodes ago. So um you could tell them about that, any websites or social medias, anything like that.
01:00:28
Dr. Barre Lando
Well, just, ah you know, I'm not, ah you know, i participate in a podcast. I'm really not a podcaster. Mike kind of ropes me into that one. um But, you know, it's great fun. We meet a lot of great folks like yourself.
01:00:41
Dr. Barre Lando
ah The website is
01:00:49
Dr. Barre Lando
That's where you find all our stuff. I'm making things in my lab all the time. And we have a permaculture farm. And part of our permaculture operation is to fund ourselves by making stuff out of what we grow.
01:01:03
Dr. Barre Lando
And, you know, and then ingredients that we can procure elsewhere from trusted partners and things. So ah it's kind of a hobby for me, really not a, know, it's more of a lifestyle.
01:01:14
Dr. Barre Lando
So alphavedic.com.
01:01:15
Beyond Terrain
sir
01:01:16
Dr. Barre Lando
Yeah.
01:01:17
Beyond Terrain
Great. Yeah, we'll put the links down below. And thank God for Mike for for roping you into that because you've obviously shared so much invaluable wisdom with with everyone. And um it's really amazing, amazing thing that and that you have everything that you have to share.
01:01:30
Beyond Terrain
So really, I appreciate your time. I appreciate all the wisdom that you've shared with us today. Thank you so much, Dr. Lando.
01:01:36
Dr. Barre Lando
Thank you for having me.
01:01:38
Beyond Terrain
Certainly.

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