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Hayley Porter on Iridology, Eye Patterns, The Microcosm of the Body and Seeing Health Differently

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In this episode, we sit down with Hayley Porter for a fascinating dive into iridology—the study of the eyes as a reflection of inner health. We begin by exploring Hayley’s definition of health and how her journey led her to this unique and ancient diagnostic art.

Hayley explains the foundations of iridology, what it can reveal, and how different patterns in the iris relate to organ systems, emotional states, and inherited tendencies. We take a personal turn as Hayley analyzes her own eyes and then shares insights into Liev’s eye patterns, offering a rare glimpse into this intuitive and observational practice.

If you’ve ever been curious about what your eyes might be saying, this episode offers a fresh lens—pun intended—on holistic health. Tune in to learn more and discover how to support Hayley’s work and explore your own terrain through iridology.

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Intro

Introduction and Social Media Connection

00:01:01
Speaker
You're welcome, Haley. Thanks so much for coming on the podcast today. Really cool looking forward to our discussion. I love this topic. I think it's it's so fascinating, so important. Great way to read the body. I think it's a beautiful example of one of these little microcosms ah that we always speak of in regards to studying nature and health. so thank you for being here. Thank you for your time.
00:01:23
Speaker
Yeah, thanks so much for having me. I actually love that you reached out because maybe like a year ago, you popped up on my explore page. So I was already following you when you reached out to me. And I followed you because you clearly have a good understanding like not only in your mind but in your body of health and you know you're young so you're it's like still becoming embodied but it's already pretty like you're pretty there for being so young which is awesome and what you like the words that you speak in your videos are exactly the words that my teachers taught me and I think it's so
00:02:01
Speaker
um It's just so important to remember balance, you know, and the importance of of balance and you clearly speak that and like embody that and understand it mentally, you know, and like what is, like you said, what is health? Like you you get it. And so that's why i started calling you.
00:02:19
Speaker
i love that. Thank you so much. Yeah,

Defining Health and Balance

00:02:21
Speaker
that's great. Yeah, so that leads right into our first question. What is health? How do you define health? How does it manifest? I just love to hear perspective. It sets us up really well for for the rest of our discussion.
00:02:30
Speaker
Yeah, I think um balance is what health is. And as you get older, And for people that are older listening in your audience, we you really have an understanding that balance is the way. And Buddha taught that like all the masters teach the middle path. And the tricky part about social media these days is it's like so much extremism. You're like, do eat watermelon, don't eat watermelon, eat wheatgrass, don't eat wheatgrass, drink water, don't drink water.
00:03:02
Speaker
Do a cold bath, don't do a cold bath, you know, and and all of that is literally irrelevant, because it's so much based upon this exact moment, and the individual's body, mind, spirit.
00:03:15
Speaker
And literally, the goal for health is balance. Because we have to feel good in our mind and feel good in our body, right? It's not just, oh, when my butt looks this way or when my colon is cleaned out, I'll be healthy.
00:03:32
Speaker
Because what if you're also troubled mentally versus what if you're happy as a clam mentally, you're also a little bit ignorant and dealing with all of these health challenges. But what we find is that we would probably like, if if I ask you the question, would you rather have it perfectly, which doesn't exist, but would you have rather have a perfectly healthy body, but a mind that's worried and nitpicking the little things, or would you rather have like, doesn't really matter what your physical body health is like, and a mind that's like peaceful and contented and dare I say blissful, you know,
00:04:12
Speaker
And so that's a great thing to to ponder, honestly. Yeah.

Teaching Style and Health Philosophy

00:04:17
Speaker
Yeah. And, and that's why I'm also really aloof with my teachings because I'm not here to tell you what to do, when to do it, how to do it.
00:04:28
Speaker
You know, it's more like, how does it work for you? What feels good for you? What keeps you balanced body, mind, spirit? You know, yeah, we could do a cleanse. We could do 10 day water fast.
00:04:39
Speaker
Yeah. But, and that'll help maybe physically, but how's it going to help you mentally? is it going to help you mentally? Great. If it's going to stress you out and you're going to become more of a hypopondriac about how your inner terrain is not clean, then really is a fast good for you, you know?
00:04:55
Speaker
And yeah, the key is balance because the thing is that you will never have a perfect health. There's no such thing as perfect health. The only thing that's perfect about perfect health is being content.
00:05:06
Speaker
You know, we have that image of Gandhi as he's like being abused, right? And he's just like, it's fine. I've got this. And that's where health lies, right? Because having a human body means you always are ebbing and flowing with your body, mind spirit.
00:05:24
Speaker
Your body especially. so it's almost easier to keep the mind still than it is the body because the body is so nature-like. You know, it's like the mind and the spirit are nature, but a little more cosmic, but the body is just nature.
00:05:39
Speaker
You know, it's like very earthbound. And we have our ancestral blood and we have everything that we've done in this lifetime. And, and then now we have all these environmental toxins.
00:05:51
Speaker
So to maintain perfect health is impossible. What you want to do is ride those ebbs and those flows. And when things slightly go out of balance, you bring it back to the balance. Maybe things are super out of balance.
00:06:02
Speaker
How do you bring it into balance and maintain that balance? you know And even somebody like me or somebody like you and people might judge, oh, you have perfect health because we see you and we hear you talking about this. But it's like, no, I have my own shenanigans, got my own SHIT.
00:06:16
Speaker
i have my own challenges. And what I've learned about the health intake form that you've sent to me, I've been reading people's health intake forms for 15 years. And I love it. It has brought me So much mastery in my health because I really understand everybody has a thing.
00:06:32
Speaker
Everybody. That super famous person has a thing. That really hot supermodel has a thing. That super fit dude has a thing. Like everybody has a thing. And sometimes people get stuck in their thing.
00:06:45
Speaker
And so the more that we can normalize, everybody has their vulnerable parts or their weaknesses and the more that it's normalized and it's okay. Just like you're about to have a baby and the most important thing that you can do, I think doesn't matter what what you eat, what baby does, like the best thing that you guys can do as parents is normalize it.
00:07:05
Speaker
Because if you get stuck in like, oh, my God, this is really hard, this part, or this part's really hard, or this part's really hard, or that part was weird, or this part I'm freaking out about, the more that you talk about it and normalize it, you're like, oh, this is just part of being a human.
00:07:20
Speaker
And we all but' go through this. So I can do this because we all just do this, you know. that was a long so I love that. It was perfect. it So encompassing. You know, we're all on our own journeys and no journey is better or worse than the others. So I glad that you highlighted that point to people that we perceive as, you know, perfect there.
00:07:41
Speaker
always far from it you know people everyone's going through their own journey their own path learning their own lessons you know the creator has this really interesting way of of giving us all the challenges that we need at the exact right moment um so yeah that's that's fantastic balance is something you know that i i started to think about a lot even before i was on this sort of terrain kick you know like like years before I was talking about balance and just that everything that i ever thought of in life, whether there was financial or economics or, you know, it was science and life and health, it always boiled down to balance. So I love when that comes up in an answer. I think that's, that's so phenomenal and striking that balance.
00:08:25
Speaker
you know, the the the perfection lies in striking that balance. But at the same time, that balance is forever changing and forever. We're always adapting and moving. And yeah, so it's just, it's a journey. It's always it's always

Personal Health Journey

00:08:37
Speaker
going to be a journey. So I'm really curious about your journey and how you got into to this way of thinking. You know, you you mentioned some really amazing, amazing people that you've obviously learned from. And I'm really curious as how you how you got to this point.
00:08:52
Speaker
Yeah, it came to me. i mean, when I was younger, i was sick and I was the type of sick that I didn't, we didn't know I was sick. Like I was so sick all the time from you know, I had all the vaccines. I ate probably the i like a bad version of the standard American diet, like a lot of candy, a lot of pasteurized milk.
00:09:14
Speaker
I don't remember fresh vegetables. Like I don't remember that, you know, it was home cooked, but it was the American dream home cooked. you know, like frozen and packaged and Pop-Tarts and Lucky Charms. And just so like we had to drink pasteurized milk every day.
00:09:29
Speaker
and so I always had strep throat. I always had ear infections. I had like awful skin. I was just looking at my skin other I'm like, look at me When I was a kid, I had like that red bumpy keratosis, I think is what it's called, keratosis pilari.
00:09:45
Speaker
was angry and like had like a lot of suppressed pain. We can even pull up my eye photos if we want to. um But I have, I'm a lymphatic sensitive type. so I could hold onto stuff and I held onto a lot and I was never taught about exercise.
00:10:00
Speaker
My parents bless their hearts. They're love their drugs. They love their alcohol. They, they didn't teach me anything about health. They taught me about music and my mom taught me how to snuggle, you know, and how to create world peace. I got that from my mom.
00:10:18
Speaker
And I got like my lover archetype from my dad, but they didn't teach me anything about health. And they also, wait they had, there was like a lot of drama in their relationship. So I was put on the back burner.
00:10:29
Speaker
So even though I tried to commit suicide, it was not a big deal. And even though i was into sex drugs and rock and roll, it wasn't big deal. Even though I was sick all the time, it like, wasn't a big deal. So thankfully though, he never brought me to like doctors.
00:10:42
Speaker
So of course I got all the antibiotics and stuff, but it was never like nobody ever paid enough attention. And looking back, I had all of the symptoms for leukemia. um And I also had like a lot of close friends that had leukemia. So it was like clearly spirit was...
00:10:58
Speaker
showing me that but I had like gray snot I would be constipated for like you know a week at a time had massive yoni like vaginal imbalances immensely wild um moon cycle timings and I would like play around with birth control in my sex drugs and rock and roll and um And in high school, I was just

Activism and Career Choices

00:11:19
Speaker
acting a fool. And my best friend's mom was like, she was very Christian.
00:11:23
Speaker
She was like, you girls gotta to get your shit together. is okay if I cuss or no cussing. I like to cuss. Go ahead. i I'll reel it if I don't do it if I don't have to. i and But she's you guys to get your shit together. So she had us pick an afterschool program in high school.
00:11:40
Speaker
And we picked this club called Peace Jam. Cause it was the least lame of all of them. And it was this amazing, like God brought me there. um It was this amazing afterschool club.
00:11:52
Speaker
and it's still around today, Peace Jam, and it unites high school students with Nobel Peace Prize laureates. So I got to meet Jane Goodall, the Archbishop Desmond Tutu.
00:12:03
Speaker
I was supposed to meet the Dalai Lama, but that was right around 9-11, so it didn't happen. um But I met all of these wildly passionate, caring people. and We also implemented the recycling program at our school.
00:12:17
Speaker
but but we went around and like sorted recycling. We taught people how to recycle. We would go in the dumpster bins. We decreased our like school electric bill by $600,000 a year because we helped change the light bulbs and like unplug the unnecessary microwaves.
00:12:30
Speaker
So I had this like this this activism from an early age. And I had always been an activist, but it wasn't channeled correctly. And so this brought me into like, oh, this what I love. I love to have passion, but for the earth and for the love. I've always been a lover. You know, if people like tried to start a fight, I was always the friend that would like try to talk it out.
00:12:51
Speaker
I've never gotten into like a fist fight. um I'll rile people up, but you know, it's like with love it in mind. um And I'm a lover and a fighter, I guess.
00:13:03
Speaker
And yeah, Yeah. And so what they taught us in Peace Jam was think globally, but act locally. Think globally. If you want to help the world, you do it in your own backyard. They didn't say with yourself, which my teacher then taught me, but it was think globally, act locally.
00:13:20
Speaker
So was like, how do we help our local terrain? How do we help our local people? And So we just did a lot of amazing things. And from there I realized, okay, how can I help the world? And it was like time for me to branch into college. You know, was 17, 18 and was going to choose peace studies at this Buddhist university here in Boulder.
00:13:41
Speaker
um Or I was going to go to massage therapy school and I ended up picking massage therapy school because it seemed, i don't know, it was just a guide. I mean, from, from that PCM era, it's always been a direct arrow.
00:13:54
Speaker
Like, no questions asked, like that's the way I go. And so it's clearly been a guidance and, but also like listening to my heart. But so i was going to study peace studies, but I feel it felt like that wasn't the best. And so I studied massage therapy because I figured if I can, people are never angry after a massage. So like I can actually help world peace by giving people massages.
00:14:14
Speaker
And I was good at it. have big hands and I play piano and stuff. And um so I did that.

Herbal Medicine and Iridology Discovery

00:14:20
Speaker
And in massage therapy school, like in the hour or the year long program, They emphasized this is the best thing ever, but you can't do it forever because your hands will hurt.
00:14:30
Speaker
And so they emphasize, like, make sure you also do something else. And the had this amazing teacher, she was like our Shiatsu reflexology teacher. And she was tiny, four foot, like 11, like no fat on her bones. She would teach in horse posture.
00:14:45
Speaker
And um I asked her, I was like, hey Gail, what should study next? And she just said herbs. She only said herbs. And I was like, cool, thank you. And I knew nothing about herbs. I was still eating fast food.
00:14:57
Speaker
I still, at that point, I would take like, like I think it was six to eight ibuprofen every single day, just because I had headaches. So every single day I would take them, ah which is just wild to think about.
00:15:08
Speaker
And in massage therapy school, I started drinking water and discovered that you can drink water to help things in your body. And um so I just went home and researched herbal medicine school and I emailed the one and she got back to me and I immediately met her. And that's my teacher, Rita.
00:15:28
Speaker
And she, Frida Charan, so she's written quite a lot of iridology books. And I just happen to be blessed that she was like pretty close to me. And um she is wild. If you haven't read any of her books, 200% recommend. She's got a lot of books and of many different priorities are my favorite herbalist walking by.
00:15:46
Speaker
I'll probably wait. um But yeah, she's written books about iridology and she was the doctor of the entire country of Iceland in the 70s. She was the doctor of Jim Morrison. She was the doctor of the Grateful Dead.
00:15:59
Speaker
um She was a doctor of like famous rich um royalty in India. And so she had years and years and years and years and years of experience. It started out, she had breast cancer when she was 35.
00:16:13
Speaker
The doctor told her she wanted they wanted to cut off her breasts and she gave the middle finger and found another way. and she was an intense teacher. She was like five foot and she transformed me.
00:16:25
Speaker
I was young enough, you know, I was 18, that I just did everything that she said. And um no questions asked. I didn't resist anything.
00:16:36
Speaker
i took what sheet i took the herbs. I did the enemas. I did the casserole packs. I read the books. I did the studies. And I was transformed in like a year and a half. Like my voice changed, my health, everything was better.
00:16:49
Speaker
All of my relationships were better. She made me break up with this boyfriend and I had like a wart on my finger and at the time from that boyfriend. And as soon as I broke up with him, the wart fell off. like But she was also intense.
00:17:00
Speaker
um I've had other teachers since then and Frida was definitely like a dragon. Like she would slap you if you needed it, kind of a teacher. She didn't actually slap us, but that kind of teacher.
00:17:12
Speaker
And, um, yeah, and actually my first, so I studied to be a natural physician with her. She has, has this school and it's similar to my school now. Um, and she, you could be a natural physician if you studied herbal medicine, iridology, healing diets, nutrition, essential oils, homeopathy, reflexology.
00:17:30
Speaker
And i did the whole program just cause I was like, I just drank it every, I just drank everything up. And I was a devoted student. Like I would just go clean our house for fun. You know, i was like very much a student. I love the student student teacher relationship. I think it's so valuable and so underrated nowadays. Like I think it used to be a thing and now Like, oh, hey, buddy. And it's like, oh, it doesn't work.
00:17:53
Speaker
If you want the two student student teacher, it's like some kind of sacred agreement. You know, it's very interesting. And so I was absolutely a student for her to her. And coming to my first iridology class, I actually didn't believe in it. I was like, oh, have to go to iridology. Everything else I loved. i was like, oh, it's time for that woo woo shit. That's weird.
00:18:12
Speaker
You know, I'm like, so my first class in iridology, I didn't believe it. and like, I just have to take this class to get my to get my diploma. and And then just like, was like, oh, oh, you know.
00:18:29
Speaker
And now at this point, iridology is the most valuable assessment tool. Like it is so accurate. And I wish I cared about science because I would love to help like run studies about why it is true, but I don't i don't care that much. But it would be nice if at some point we could prove it because it's so, I mean, 7,000%, one infinite amount of percent.
00:18:53
Speaker
I know it's accurate. And it makes sense when you look into your eyes. If you're the type of person that looks into your eyes and is curious, which I have always been since i was younger i remember being young being like oh look at that oh look that you know versus some people are like i don't know what color eyes i have i'm like how do you not know you don't gaze you don't gaze into your soul all the time you know or gaze into somebody else's soul like my brother just started dating a girl like what are eyes like he's like don't know it's like how do you not know can tell you every detail from our first interaction
00:19:25
Speaker
And yeah, so iridology is amazing. And I love that you know about it. um And yeah yeah, for your listeners, like it is the most valuable assessment tool you could ever find. I've studied dark field microscopy.
00:19:40
Speaker
It's even better than that. I've studied reflexology. It's even better than that. You know, I know how to read the body with my fingers as a massage therapist. um I've never studied, you know, like acupuncture, the meridian lines or the pulse. Yeah.
00:19:57
Speaker
But I think it's even more accurate than that because you can tell a for thank everything, everything. They can tell the exact state of somebody's body, mind, spirit in this exact moment. And that includes the blood, the lymph, the organs, the nervous system, what their mind is doing, what their spirit is doing.
00:20:14
Speaker
You know, it's very cool. Yeah, it's absolutely amazing. You know, the eyes are the seat of the soul. yeah They tell the the entire story of the body.
00:20:25
Speaker
um yeah I remember like, you know, my first, cause I didn't grow up paying attention to to eyes, but I remember distinctly when I started to become more aware of my external and internal terrain, cause that obviously goes hand in hand.
00:20:40
Speaker
um It was like during COVID and stuff and all you could see were people's eyes. And i I started to know everything about a person based on the way that they were looking at me.
00:20:51
Speaker
Cause all I saw were the eyes. And so it was so interesting. I was starting to learn how to read people just based on their eyes. And I have a little bit more of a psychology mindset, I suppose. But um that's that's where I went. So I'm really curious, you know, what what can the eyes tell us? You know, what what are we what are we looking for? What is what is this iridology stuff anyways?
00:21:13
Speaker
it It's technically so you brought up the microcosm, right? It's technically the entire universe because you are the universe. Right.
00:21:24
Speaker
So I've been studying. It's been 15 years now that I've been studying and practicing iridology. You know, so I've looked at thousands and thousands of eyes, talked to thousands and thousands of people, photographed, drawn, read so many books, you know.
00:21:37
Speaker
And but I think the reason why i've had such a good relationship with iridology is I've really dove as deep as you can into myself, right?
00:21:49
Speaker
maybe not as deep, but I've dove really deep, which is why you know about terrain because you've contemplated it. We can't just say like, read some books, you know, it has to be like really deep experience, you know, and then then we can speak from a good place. It's almost like you can read about meditation and do a couple, but you don't know about meditation until you've been practicing it for long time, you know?
00:22:12
Speaker
um So when it comes to the human body, technically you are the whole source of the universe, right? Because the world doesn't exist without you.
00:22:26
Speaker
in it. Your world doesn't exist without you in it. So you're the observer and the observed and, you know, all the things. And regardless of religion, like technically, you know, that's how I see it.
00:22:39
Speaker
And um so technically the eyes are the whole universe, right? And you can also see that when you look at an iris and a nebula, they look the same.
00:22:52
Speaker
You know, so of course. um And so you can see everything. And sometimes because I have a school where I teach, I certify people to become iridologists and it's a hard, it's a hard course because it's needs to be hard.
00:23:06
Speaker
You know it needs to be rigorous. And sometimes students or just people who start to study iridology or look into it, it can be a little bit overwhelming because it's a, it's a portal that never ends.
00:23:17
Speaker
almost like astrology or human design or terrain theory or learning about microorganisms or learning about nature. You know, it's just never ending because you're trying to study the universe.
00:23:30
Speaker
And then even more so for the human, like you are technically God experiencing itself, you know? And so you could see everything in the eyes, like literally everything.
00:23:43
Speaker
Um, I don't usually go like, oh, when you were five, that's why this, you know, we're not going, that's like not really relevant, you know? And so what I try to do in sessions is make it the most relevant and and the most helpful in every way possible, you know? So like, what, where is this person at? What, what are they needing to hear? And you know, like when it comes to psychology, you have to be able to meet a person where they're at.
00:24:09
Speaker
And the only way to support or help a person is to to meet them where they're at. Like if you try to give them something that's not accessible to them, that's a waste of your time and their time.
00:24:21
Speaker
So I really try to meet a person where they're at in each session. And yeah, you can see everything. So there's a map. I just so happen to have one, you know, so simplified, there's a map.
00:24:33
Speaker
It's been around for a long time and it hasn't changed, you know, and the best thing that a person can do is maybe get my intro class. have a $20 intro class and just kind of learn the foundation. foundation So it's a three hour intro class.
00:24:46
Speaker
And I go into this, you know, my certification course is like
00:24:53
Speaker
100 hours, you know, so the three out at plus because you have to read all the books. It's like 200 hours, maybe, you know, so the three hours a good place to start. But there's a map, you know, and it breaks it down. Right eye is right side of the body. Left eye is left side of the body. And it goes like this to keep it easy. This is the nose.
00:25:12
Speaker
So there's the medial side and the lateral side, the top of the body, the bottom of the body. I drew mine like this because I love the chakra system, the chakras, but it's actually pronounced chakra. And so it kind of can give a good visual of how to understand where the placements are.
00:25:26
Speaker
You can even find like on a Google search, you can see iridology maps where people like in the iris, they show like the nose, like an actual nose and that can kind of help you to understand. But it's basically into out, top to bottom, this way to this way, side to side.
00:25:40
Speaker
um So the map is simple. It looks complex, but you just start slow and steady. And the way that my teacher had us learn iridology was from our own body. So we looked at our eyes and said, okay, this is a pigment. It's in my spleen area. This is what spleens mean. This is what pigments mean.
00:25:57
Speaker
This is what the spleen does, you know? And so we really had to understand it from that perspective. um I never go into a session I mean, it used to be this way that people wanted me to tell them everything, you know, but that's impossible.
00:26:12
Speaker
We need a whole whole lifetime to talk about everything. So it's literally impossible to talk about everything in the eyes in one session. Absolutely impossible. And, but the main things are like, what are the most relevant? What are things? Yes. If they're alarming, should we, we should probably talk about this big cyst thing, you know, we're like, Whoa, there are some times I see that people's eyes are like,
00:26:33
Speaker
We are definitely gonna talk about that because that probably doesn't feel good for them, you know? And um
00:26:43
Speaker
yeah, you can see everything. I love that. That's amazing. let's ah Let's dive in. Let's look at look at an iris. so I know if you want to start with, because like I shared my own for the listener. We're going to look at that. um But i don't know if you want to share yours and and continue maybe kind of transition from from your journey into and to mine, if that works. Sure.
00:27:09
Speaker
That could be nice. I could sugarcoat it a little bit before we put you the side. Let me go through. Let me go through. I probably have my eyeball saved in my favorite section.
00:27:20
Speaker
I'm sure. Yeah. It's really cool when you have a child um because you oops you can see everything and you'll see them become them. And it's just the cool, you know, i have a six and a half year old and it's just the coolest experience to
00:27:42
Speaker
to see them become them. And when you know, I would all you're like, oh yeah, that is them. It's all so clear. But then you also, the best part is just knowing how to support another person because your child, yes, it's you and your wife, but it's also not you and your wife.
00:27:56
Speaker
Right. And so what does this individual spirit need? Okay. Let me um share my screen now. Perfect. Yeah. A fantastic tool, right? Especially past. that's That's pretty much all I've been thinking about lately, of course, with the with the yeah little one on the way, right? So amazing. Oh, cool.
00:28:17
Speaker
Can you see this? Yes. Yeah. This is an outdated photo. It's a little... It's a little too yellow, but the I think my son took this picture actually when he was like four. um So this is my left eye many, many moons ago.
00:28:33
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And what's so cool is often you'll hear people say, oh, my eyes changed. But the eyes don't just go one way and stay that way. They're like nature. They're like you. They can go back and forth and things can change for the better and for the worse, right?
00:28:47
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um And so when I first started out, my eyes were like this dark green with rounds and oranges and, and then they turned almost completely blue. And then when I had a child and I went through some trauma, not with my child, but with my son's father, my eyes got really yellow like this. And now they're kind of back to like the,
00:29:08
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They're like a seafoam greenish, you know, and they're less yellow now. But so there's my left eye. And you can always tell because the flashlight's on that side.
00:29:18
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Right. So that means that my ear is here. my nose is there. Right. And so you can actually see that there's a little pigment right under that flashlight. You see that little pigment? Yeah, the little brown spot.
00:29:32
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And this photo makes it look really light. It's actually super dark. And then um on the medial edge, so the opposite side of the flashlight, there's those two other pigments. And you can even see a pigment right above the flashlight.
00:29:45
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There's like a reflection of something with like three shapes, but that's not in my eye. That's some kind of reflection. And there's a pigment right there. so that pigment right below the flashlight is in the screen area.
00:29:56
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And then there's two more in my thyroid area and then one in my heart area. And so every marking has a meaning. Every color has a meaning. And then it's all dependent upon the location and how it's all working for the whole ecology of a person, like holistically.
00:30:17
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Right. Sometimes people are, oh, is this spot in their womb or in their lower back? Well, it's they're like this far apart in the body. shit And if something's happening in your shoulder, it's also happening in your hips.
00:30:29
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Right. If something's happening in your liver, it's also happening in your screen. You know what mean? Like it's all connected. I sometimes people, they try to separate the human body, but it's a whole, it's like, it's, it's a whole unit, you know?
00:30:41
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Yeah. And so when you're looking like good iridologists will look at the whole, they will not send you a five page writeup of every marking and every meaning that's like almost irrelevant. And is it really helpful?
00:30:52
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You know, I don't do writeups anymore. I only do conversations. Because it just feels like such a waste of time, you know? And did I even talk about what they wanted to talk about, right? You know, as like when you're in the therapy world, like you should always start a conversation with what do you want to talk about, right? Which is why I asked you in my in my health intake form that you filled out, first question is what is your intention for this? Like, what do you want from this, you know?
00:31:15
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And that's always something that's important when you're, when you have some kind of session, if you're in this field of health and wellness, the best thing you can do is ask somebody what they Because who cares about what you have to say? You know what I mean?
00:31:27
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Yeah, that attunement piece is, I think, the most important thing that any sort of practitioner can learn. And that's the best thing that's ever been taught to me is just attuning to person in front of you. Right. That's that's what it's all about.
00:31:39
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Yeah.
00:31:42
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So my eye is a group of a lymphatic sensitive. So you can see around the peripheral edge, like close to the edge of the iris, there's all of those yellow areas.
00:31:53
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beads And that shows that my lymphatic system is just congested, you know. And anytime you're talking to about iridology and markings, you always ah want to remember that everything has a pro and a con.
00:32:08
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So, okay, yes, I have a super congestive lymphatic system and and I'm prone to bacterial things and I'm prone to mucus congestion. I'm really sensitive to any foods that are mucus forming. I can't eat dairy. I can't eat potatoes. I can't eat grains.
00:32:22
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But does mean that I'm like just super emotional and I'm very tuned in with the earth. And it also emphasizes the importance of moving that expression and moving that emotion exercising, right?
00:32:40
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And, yeah, so so it's always important to highlight the pros and the cons, not just the pros or not just the cons. Yeah, I really like that you said that, actually, you know, because, you know, in in our perspective to like the terrain side of things, you know, that the adaptation piece.
00:32:57
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you know, is huge, you know, every response of the body or every symptom or whatever it is, is, is an adaptation. There's, there's a reason for these things as well. So we might say that there's lymphatic congestion, but you know, if we, if we dove into it long enough, there's just likely a reason why that was happening to it at the basis.
00:33:19
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Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I like that a lot. And what's funny about iridology is like you can really try to say why, why, why. And you can you can find out a lot of reasons why. And I've thought about this, you know, i'm like an absolute nerd. So probably i got the symphatic toffee because I was given all the vaccines.
00:33:36
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But why do some people react differently than others? Well, because of what my parents ate when I was conceived and what my mom ate when I was pregnant and everything. the environment, all the cigarette smoke and all the tap water, um but also what my grandparents say.
00:33:48
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But then when it comes to the root of it, why um my eyes this way? Well, because, because, because you need, because God said, I need you to have this body. yeah i need you to have these eyes for this lifetime in order to do what you need to do or something.
00:34:06
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You know, it's just part of the the flow. 100%. Amazing. And now I could dwell on the fact that my lymph is so sensitive. I could dwell on that.
00:34:17
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And I do sometimes I'm like, oh, why can't I just have raw dairy? Why can't I just, you know, do things that people just do? i can't have bread. My body goes into like a hilarious mucus reaction when I have bread.
00:34:30
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awful. And, but at the same time, I'm so sensitive. And now I know, i really know what, like, how, like the subtleties of the human body and the subtleties of the train, the subtleties of what throws human bodies out of balance versus some people that like you have a really strong body.
00:34:50
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You might not feel those subtle things or not the subtle things, but you might not feel that lymphatic thing as easily as I do. Right. And so, yes, we can always have the grief about, oh, my gosh, I was born with this liver marking, or, oh my gosh, I was born with this big lacuna in my kidney.
00:35:07
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But really the goal is how do you learn to love it, like you said? like How do you learn to support your weaknesses and understand

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00:35:15
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that they're vulnerabilities, not be ignorant, but just learn to support them so that they're no longer weak because everybody has a thing. Everybody has a weakness. Everybody has a vulnerability.
00:35:25
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But it's up to you to become aware of it Do not be ignorant, which is why iveridology so helpful. become aware of like what's actually happening and then support it you know because the end goal is to have less suffering we're all going to die so it's not like learning iridology is going to not make you die you're going to die but the goal is to like have it become like have your life be comfortable and not be sick and not not be sick mentally right like how do we really learn to support our body mind spirit so it feels good in our human experiences Yeah, just become the best version of yourself, right? Become the best that you possibly can in the vessel that you're given and the circumstances that you're in and just becoming the best version that. Doing your best. I like that. Yeah.
00:36:08
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Great. shall we yeah Shall we move on? Move on to to my eyes? I'm kind of i'm kind of excited, honestly. I've never had a any sort of iridology reading or anything like that.
00:36:21
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I'm just so worried there might be something naked here. Okay. Okay. right So there's your left eye. So I always like to start with the left eye because um it's like the receptive side of somebody.
00:36:36
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And so when I'm looking at somebody's eyes, always start with the left side. And what's really cool, if you can get, or anybody listening, if you can get a little jeweler's loop, Because there is a gigantic difference in looking at a photo.
00:36:51
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Even if it's a super good, like these are good photos. You guys did a really good job. But there's a huge difference in looking at a photo of an iris versus looking at an iris. Like with a magnification little lens. And they're like 20 bucks.
00:37:05
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I have one. and It's tiny. It's so old. I've had it for 15 years. But to see and but the dynamic aliveness of an iris. will help you to like to to understand the intensity of it all even more. I mean, you can see it in your eye here. I mean, this is an amazing photo you took, right? so yeah we can see and feel But you can't miss out on that first foundational experience looking at the eyes, looking at your eyes. You can even, I don't have it with me, but you can get like a makeup mirror, little handheld.
00:37:36
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And they're like 15 times so girls can, you know, do their things close up. You get that, look at your eye and then use a flashlight, right? And you can, I mean, it's just wild. So getting that for yourself or partner or just if anybody's interested in learning about iridology, that's really the place to start.
00:37:54
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Because looking at photos, you miss so much. You miss the depth. You miss the ah breathing of it. and And sometimes, you know, the way the light is or the kind of the hue of the light or, you know, the time of day can really change how a photo looks.
00:38:10
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And you you miss a lot of, like, the depth. And so I definitely invite you to get one. And they're, like, $20, you know, $20 jeweler's loop, $10 for, a jeweler's lo ten bucks for a mag ten bucks for like a mirror, for flashlight, you know And yeah, they're valuable.
00:38:26
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Love that. Yeah, great tip. So what are we looking at here? What are we seeing? What are we... This is your eyeball. you're doing a great job. I would love to have a body like yours
00:38:42
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Oh, it's easier. However, what's different about yours and mine? And then first, there's kind of two things. And let me actually swap to your other eye too. So people can, because they're both. You can't just look at one person's one eye. It's both because you're both. And they're often very different.
00:38:59
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You know, the left side is the left side. The right side is the right side. but also the feminine side, the masculine side, that's your whole body. So you can see how your eyes look different. Yes, the lighting is a little bit different. And what you guys can do is always like pay attention to how the skin looks.
00:39:14
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Because sometimes people are like, oh, and that's why I don't like iris comparison so photos. People are like, I did a cleanse. Here's my before and after. And their flashlight is a different color. So you're like, no, your eyes didn't change. Your flashlight changed. Goofball.
00:39:27
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But you can kind of this color here is a little more orange, right? Go back to this one. It's little more pink. skin's just a titch more orange. So this looks quite a lot more orange, but it's not, they're probably pretty similar colors. You do have a little bit more like yellowy orange and those pigments, right?
00:39:46
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In this eye though. But so they're different, right? They're, you know, it's still you, but they're different, right? But yeah, so let's start with your left eye. So the first thing I noticed, um,
00:40:00
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that stands out is what we call the ANW. So the ANW means autonomic nerve wreath. Have ever heard that term? No, I haven't. i I'm familiar with the restaurant, but that's it.
00:40:15
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I'm not talking about the restaurant. Okay. I do remember that. It sounds like a root beer or something. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Anytime I voice text A&W, it does the the restaurant root beer thing.
00:40:27
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Like, so no, no, no, A&W. But so A&W is the abbreviation for autonomic nerve wreath. The autonomic nerve wreath is the dense nervous system that makes up your colon, your small intestine.
00:40:41
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You know, especially that your colon has a lot of feeling to it. Mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically, right? Like the colon isn't just a tube where you're food and poop go process you know it has there's like a lot we feel our gut the gut sensation ah your belly feels it's how you feel and everybody feels that way and science is now discovering that there's like ah much higher amount of nerves and neurons and things like dense nervous system tissue in our colon
00:41:15
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in comparison to our brain. We think of our brain as like, oh, but our colon's pretty like, whoa, also when it comes to dense nervous tissue. So the that's why they say nowadays the gut is like the second brain. It literally is.
00:41:28
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And it's such a dense nervous system structure that it shows up in the eyes. And it's that circle, that white circle, which I could point on here. I probably could draw.
00:41:40
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ah might be too, I'm pretty not tech savvy. i don't want but It's the tense nervous. It could. No, I don't. I'll give myself the trouble. So it's is that white circle around your pupil. You can see it, right?
00:41:56
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Yeah. So that structure, the A and W, the the colon, the small intestine shows up in every person's iris. But it shows up differently. shows up different shapes, different colors, different textures based upon the current constitutional makeup, how their colon digestive system is right now.
00:42:15
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So the way that iridology works, to backtrack, is you have a brain, right? And when you are a four week old embryo, so your baby's way past that, but when your baby was just four weeks old, old they're now 22 weeks, their brain was developing and developed.
00:42:33
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And at four weeks old, their brain, it's like what the brain is one of the first things. I think the the belly button is like the first thing or something like that. You can get a book on embryology. It's really fun. But at four weeks old, the brain develops.
00:42:46
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And then it goes through this process called evagination, which means that you have your brain and then it extends, but also splits. So it's like here and goes into two.
00:42:59
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And the brain then becomes, at that time, it's called the optic stalk. But then as the embryo gets older, we call it the optic nerve. And the end of the optic nerve, as we know, is the iris.
00:43:13
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So iridology is the study of the iris. It's not ophthalmology. It's not the study of the eye. It's iridology, the study of the iris. And so it's not the study of the sclera, that's sclerology. It's not the study of the white.
00:43:26
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It's the study of the colored part of the eye. And this iris is actually a muscle and it's nerve tissue. There's over 28,000 nerves. This guy hopefully sees that I've plugged in there.
00:43:40
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He's like the the parking. ah Oh, good, good. sort
00:43:47
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There's over 20,000 nerve endings in the eyes. So what you're looking at and this is why it's crucial to look with a magnification and not just photo, When I was 12 years old, I got to go with my best girlfriend to an eye doctor appointment because she had glasses. And when I was 12, this must have been a start, but I didn't know at the time.
00:44:06
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I got to see her eye blown up like a huge picture. And I was like, what the there's noodles in there. You know, sometimes people will see a photo like this and they have no idea. They had no idea. And I looked like this, but it does like those noodles are in there and that's all nervous system tissue.
00:44:22
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And so what you're seeing is the brain extended and then the end of it. So you can kind of imagine like a cable or like a licorice stick, right? Because the brain is all these nerves, all these neurons. You can see me, right?
00:44:40
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Because I'm doing a visual thing right now. But the brain is all these nerves, right? And when you extend it, and goes through that process of invagination, the optic stalk, it becomes optic nerve, optic nerve and ends of the iris. What you're seeing is like a cable, just like the spinal cord.
00:44:56
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We know that the spinal cord is that thing, but the other way. And then it branches out into every nook and cranny. Right? So every neck cranny up the spinal cord, the brain, it's like it's like the loop, you know, one end to one end, and the brain is in the middle.
00:45:12
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brain the spinal cord are in the middle, but the brain is like the epicenter, right? and so when it becomes optic nerve, it's literally like a licorice stick, you know, and or a cable, right? And if you splice that cable in half, it's like that perfect circle and you can see all the cable endings.
00:45:28
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That's what the iris is. So what you're looking at is 28,000, something like that. sure there's more of a specific number. I used to say 30,000, but think it's more than 28,000 nerve endings.
00:45:40
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And the iris is also a muscle. That's why it can contract and dilate and do all those things. It's because that pupil opens and closes, opens and closes.
00:45:52
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And so you're seeing that endings of the nerves and muscle fibers in the eyes. So those a wiggly noodles, indicate a lot of the, ah like the muscular, the muscle tissue of the iris.
00:46:11
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And the brain is an epicenter of the nerves and that's the iris, right? It's extending down and the colon has so much, the colon and the small intestine, they have so much nervous system tissue that it shows up in the iris because it's like a concentrated zone.
00:46:30
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of nervous tissue tissue so if you guys can remember my photo I had that a and w because everybody does because pretty much everybody has a colon and a small intestine but mine was faint like you couldn't see it versus yours almost looks like a rope like a mountain range right And okay, so if we can compare those two, if mine was calmer looking, like the tissues were more soothed, okay, on the other end of the spectrum, if it's raised and white and like a little poofy and literally lifted up, like if you were to look at this photo with, or if you were to look at your eye with the magnification tool, you would see it's actually raised up.
00:47:10
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Here, i just know, yeah, here I just know it's raised up. but But it's actually, like if you were to look at it from the side, it's like a little mountain peak.
00:47:20
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And so as you learn more about iridology, you can understand that that means that the ANW is raised, swollen, it has a white color. Not everybody's is white. Some people's might have the same texture as yours, but maybe it's orange or brown, which has a different meaning.
00:47:35
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So yours is showing me that your colon it gets inflamed easily. Like it just gets irritated easily. Right. And you wrote in your intake form idiopathic stomach pain, something like that.
00:47:54
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And yeah. And so the funny thing about health too is we always like people, I say, oh, my belly hurts. But you want to clarify like where in your belly, like your liver belly or like your stomach belly or your colon belly or your small intestine belly.
00:48:10
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But for you, it looks like like the colon and the small intestine. Like, it probably gets irritated more easily. And also, it's important to to think relatively, like, you know, maybe it was much worse when you were younger, maybe it was much better.
00:48:29
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Everybody's different where they are in their health journey, right? Are they feeling better than they ever have? um So it's interesting that time that I had that really bad stomach pain, too, was like the worst I was ever living. It was first year university. So and not very healthy lifestyle.
00:48:48
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And then had this this just this episode like it was unbelievable. Yeah, really interesting. What happened? Interesting. I just, it was the, it was the oddest thing. One day I woke up, I had this like sharp pain in my stomach and then I went to the hospital because it was like unbearable.
00:49:04
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And, you know, it took like a week and then it just, it ended up going away and I got no answers. They did blood labs. They did a bunch of tests and stuff and they just, you know, everything was fine. as as Yeah. Could you stand up and show me where on your belly?
00:49:20
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It was like, It was like kind of like like lower here, but it felt like it was deep it was deep inside. Yeah, so that's more of your small intestine.
00:49:32
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Yeah. Because your stomach is higher. So your stomach is is like if you, don't know if you can see me, but like your ribs are here, right? And your stomach is just kind of a little bit lower than that that beef. So where you pointed to your small intestine zone.
00:49:51
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Oh, it was definitely my small intestine or colon or something like that. but It wasn't my stomach. Sorry, i I generalize. I say my whole tummy is my stomach.
00:50:03
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Yeah, most people do that. Yeah, yeah. No, that's that's true. it was It was definitely not my stomach. It was definitely not my stomach. it was much lower and it felt like deep inside, like almost like halfway through to my back. Like I didn't feel it on my back. I felt it kind of like in between.
00:50:18
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was very interesting. oh um Yeah, it's almost like it could be. yeah Because yeah, you have a few. look at your other oh yeah, maybe it's that too.
00:50:34
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Like you have a couple places where it's, let me just try. Just try to draw on the screen here. And if I mess it up, I'm so sorry. No, copy. I don't see edit. I don't even see edit.
00:50:46
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That's weird. Okay. Well, So you see on this side how it's pretty much a perfect circle, which is good. We want that autonomic nerve wreath to be a pretty perfect circle around the iris.
00:51:00
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Some people are like, ah like crazy. You can see if you go, so imagine this is a clock, right? And if you go to like about three, three o'clock, see how it kind of like branches out.
00:51:13
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I don't know if the phone is switched. Like this side, right? yeah Yeah, um the side where your ear is. Because see, when I scroll, when I zoom out, this, yeah you know, that.
00:51:26
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ah So I don't if the camera swapped or the video, but on the ear side, like almost at perpendicular, if I zoom in right here, that part right there kind of jolts out. Yeah, it's out. Yeah.
00:51:42
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Phasms out. Same with right here. see how that part kind of balloons out and then has that like part. And then even the top there is like a little more constricted versus in comparison, this side is more of a perfect circle, but on this side, so that you were probably feeling like this.
00:51:59
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Yeah. The spasming of the tissues from lifestyle, all the things, you know, what were you drinking? What were eating? What were doing? What you're not doing? What are you not drinking? What you're not eating all that. Right.
00:52:12
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How are you feeling? What's your muscles? All of that. But yeah, I bet it was some kind of like just pretty intense spasming constriction inflammation of those tissues.
00:52:23
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Cause that's right where you're talking about. Yeah. Yep. hundred percent. Interesting. and it, it kind of, it like, I let it pass. It passed.
00:52:34
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It was kind of an interesting time too, because there was a time where I kind of went through this shift in lifestyle where I i was like, oh i'm I'm done with this kind of fast living and fast food. And, you know, just like I wanted something more. It was really his first year and I knew my wife at this time. We were just friends. we were working together in the summertime.
00:52:54
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And I was like, no, you know, like I really want, I really want to change in lifestyle. And, you know, I finished out university about three months. And then we started working together after a couple more months. And we started, you know, hanging out every day. We started going out. And then that's, it was like, that's history right there. That's, then we, have but we were never separated after that. So it was this big shift in my life too. I had this really big psychological shift after that happened. It was kind of like this physical,
00:53:22
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this physical symptom that happened and then something triggered it mentally in me and I had

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00:53:27
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to release that. It was so such an interesting time, you know, this big, big paradigm shift in my life.
00:53:34
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so And it never came back. Good. Good. Yeah. Who knows? Like, you know, it's always, we wish we could have had photos of what it was happening then. I know. Yeah.
00:53:44
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Probably based upon like your level of awareness and integration, probably it's much less inflamed and white. So the white color specifically means like inflammation, you know, each color has a different, um,
00:53:58
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different thing that it means, you know, like what it's affecting, like what it's influencing, what's influencing it. Yours is like very white. So there's that like almost like hyperactivity um of your core.
00:54:12
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And that's good though, because you also don't want to have the opposite, which would be like gray and slowing. So to me, I think you you probably feel pretty good.
00:54:24
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And as you age or as you go through stress, which I love, I want a million babies. So it's not that babies are stressful, but babies are stressful. So the more that you can, and my teacher was this type, you're called immune reactive. After we're done, I'll send you some excerpts from her books of the immune reactive type.
00:54:47
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But it's like, your your stress comes from your core. And what I love about iridology is we can have all these things like stress or anxiety or acne or skin things, whatever, but we can find the root of it. Like why exactly? So anytime you're experiencing stress, you kind of have two things that show up of like where it's coming from and how your body is metabolizing or what's the word I'm thinking of?
00:55:17
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Like how, what's it just, what's happening when you're stressing, you know, but yours is coming from the nervous system of your belly. So, so I would recommend you make best friends with belly massage and I have a class. I can send it to you. If you just help me remember to, for me to send you, I made a video on abdominal massage for the self because there's a way that when we're touching ourselves, it can be deep spiritual conversation, but also a physical supportive thing.
00:55:49
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So I can send you that. And of course your wife can't do belly massage now, but later she can, you know as long as she's like ah couple months postpartum. um But there's a way that you know we can really commune with our body. And so the more that you can embrace, adopt, gather tools for your toolbox of what to do,
00:56:09
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When you feel a little out of balance, right? um that Those are good. So belly massage would be a good friend for you because it'll help you to hear your body. You know, your body is, our bodies are always talking to us.
00:56:22
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It's just, are we listening? And then the first time we listen, our body's like, oh my God, hey, finally, what's up? You know, right? Like it really, and loves when we listen. And I love the fingers as ah vessel or ah communion.
00:56:39
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thing because you are like seeing and feeling and going inside but from the outside and the inside at the same time so belly massage you in castor oil packs which your wife also cannot do right now but she can do after she's her belly and yeah you know, everything's all healed up postpartum.
00:56:58
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Those are so good because castor oil goes in and softens everything. And so it'll soften the system.
00:57:05
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And because, so you're called immune reactive. And if you ever get sick, the reason why you would get like a cold or flu is because your core is is irritated. Like your A&W, your colon is irritated and overactive.
00:57:22
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And then it just triggers your immune system. Right, so my teacher was so healthy unless she would get pissed and then she would get sick.
00:57:32
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Very interesting. the Kind of the last little, I know we got to wrap it up here, but um a lot i interesting point that, you know, kind of connecting my psychology psychotherapy side of things is um I always look when I'm working with like any sort of trauma or anything like that, always look at where in the body is it located. So, you know, through my own work and my own self-observation and stuff like that, and working with my own experiences, positive, negative,
00:57:58
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whenever I would feel any sort of stress or pain or, you know, trauma or whatever, always manifested in my, I want to say stomach, but in my lower abdomen area, you know, it always manifested in that area, which I find is such an interesting connection that that's kind of the the place that you noticed, right? Because that's,
00:58:19
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always where I feel things and I need to feel things through there. Like if I want to, you know, feel something out, it's, it's that uncomfortable, you know, just not pain, but just that, that sensation, right? Like almost indescribable. That's always it there in my lower, lower abdomen.
00:58:36
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the Belly massage, castor oil packs will be so good for you because not everybody has that same experience. i don't have that experience. When I have tension, it's more in my literal brain or in like, um that's really it.
00:58:53
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Yeah. And like some people have nerve rings, which you I don't think you really have. It's hard to tell in photos. And they experience like when they have stress, it's like their muscles are contracting. It has nothing to do with their cold, you know?
00:59:05
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So all that you just said is absolutely like that that's the that's your main spot. So making friends with it. And it's almost like... have have some kind of daily practice and it changes when you become a parent you know but you can also make use of one minute right to tune in to yourself like all i need is a freaking hot bath and like 10 seconds with my eyes closed and i'm good or like or an ice cold bath like that's all i need and i'm like got this you know and so and more that you can like maybe you put your hands on your belly and you say
00:59:40
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belly you know, wea soft, let it go, like calm down you know. and especially because before you have a baby, you know, like getting that toolbox set up because then you're unshakable.
00:59:56
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mean, parenthood is hard, but it's also the best thing in the entire universe. And so you just get your toolbox stacked so that when you do lose your shit, because you're going to lose your shit because you're a parent, you know, you're like, it's fine.
01:00:09
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I know what to do. i know how to remedy it. I know how to say sorry where you know, like how to say sorry to yourself. Yeah. What else? And anything that's good for the colon, like marshmallow root would be good for you. So the brown bark, lemon balm, like anything that's soothing to the nervous system.
01:00:26
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Also, I wanted to say too, like you do have a little bit of stress, like in your nervous system, you can see how some of these noodley white fibers are even more white than other ones, right?
01:00:38
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Like the those are called the fibers of the iris and they're, they're like raised and more prominent. And so it's like the stress, any of the stress that you're experiencing is coming from that nervous system of your colon stress. And then like, eventually it's starting to kind of ripple out into what your mind is saying or into like, maybe what your, what your, you know, lower back is saying or your lungs or your throat, you know, like just the different areas of your body.
01:01:10
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And so bringing it back... So what's the brown spots? What does that mean? Like, I know that, like, they're in a certain location, but what does that kind of indicate, the kind of brownish or yellowish?
01:01:20
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Because there's kind of, like, a streak there as well. Uh-huh. So pigments... So basically, there's white color that can show in the eye So then you have the base level.
01:01:32
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Let's go back. there's There's three base iris colors. Just like when you start a painting, you can start with three base canvas colors. Usually it's white. But in iranology, the base canvas color is either blue, and it can be like a lighter blue, or like ah like yours is more like a dark.
01:01:48
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you know, like yeah like my son's, like dark blue, versus like my teacher's is more like this, like sky blue, just like our skin. all might have be cocky, like have light skin, but it's like different kind of shades. So there's blue, but it's kind of different shades of blue.
01:02:03
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And then there's a true brown, which same, it can be different shades of a true brown. And there's also a true mixed, which is the baby or the grandbaby, or sometimes a great grandbaby of those two, right? But you have a true blue eye, so your base color is blue.
01:02:18
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It's like your shirt, actually, your shirt is like the exact probably color of your base blue color. And so then anything else, and sometimes that's where you, well, that's where you get the green eye. Like my eye, no you don't have a green base. I have a blue eye but it's got yellowy, which green plus yellow or blue plus yellow is green, right?
01:02:38
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And so you have that base blue, but the white, and then you have like a little bit yellowy kind of some little bits of brown, right? And so that's what's, it's paint on top, right?
01:02:49
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So that white is on top. And then the pigments are are different because the fibers and the ANW are part of the fiber network. And there it's like with the structure of your iris versus the pigment is is almost like printed on top. Like it's an extra layer, just a paint in that area.
01:03:12
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And so there's white, there's then yellow, there's orange, there's different shades of brown, and then there's black. There's also gray, and there's also red, there's also rust.
01:03:24
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White is hyper inflammation, yellow is subacute inflammation, orange is and acidity. So it's like different levely levels of acidity. Orange is more acidity.
01:03:37
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This is affecting the lymphatic system, the kidneys, and the pancreas. And then the brown comes into the liver and the circulation and much more chronic. Acute is new. Chronic is older. So much more chronic um things. And it's now impacting the metabolism of the liver as well.
01:03:54
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So yours are like a gentle brown. And they're small and they're light. Right. least that's what they look like in the photo. and so pigments overall, regardless of the color, indicate an area that isn't receiving optimal circulation.
01:04:14
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And so, yeah, bummer. But also imagine if it was receiving the circulation, too. That's, you know, you can kind of look at it from both perspectives. Right. Like I have tons of pigments in my eyes. So I understand them. Like, yeah, it'd be nice if my eyes.
01:04:26
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This, my thyroid functioned optimally, but it doesn't. So how do I make sure it does? Right. And um so with your coloring, that's more of like a chronic thing.
01:04:38
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Once you get into pigments that are like orange, brown, dark colored, that's ancestral. So that was something you got from your mom, dad, grandparents. And what's cool is like, you can get so nerdy with iridology. You can really understand which ancestor did you get it from? What is the lesson?
01:04:55
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You know, like, where did you get it from? Well, I know that the pigments in my thyroid are from the chemotherapy and all the chemical drugs that my grandmother did. Right. And the same with the one of the ah the one in the heart is from my dad and his dad.
01:05:06
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Right. Because of this, this and this, you know, this is ah clearly I had time before I had a child to dive into this. I don't think about these kind of things nowadays. think about dishes and snacks, but um and some adult conversations sometimes.
01:05:22
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But yeah. So these are ancestral and that one that's in the top. So this is your right eye. Right. And so this one is like at 12 o'clock. That's a unique spot because 12 o'clock, you know, like that's, that's technically this part, but because it's all connected and you see, we were talking about the A and W, your colon is right there.
01:05:42
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It's like also right above your belly button. So it's like here, but also into your sinuses and the space directly above your belly button. Cause all those are connected. So maybe if you have like a freckle there, i have a pigment in my eyes and then I have a pigment on my body there and, a big you know, it's all connected. really But that's your that's not only that is that like part of your transverse colon, but and part of the brain and part of the sinuses. But it's also like the section of the brain that we call the will for life and the vitality for life and the zest for life.
01:06:18
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And physically, it means always make sure you are supporting your brain health and getting enough circulation in and out of your brain. So circulation is the inflow and it's also the outflow.
01:06:32
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So my grandfather, not to scare you, only to enlighten you, has a pigment right there in his eyes. It's a little bit higher up though, but he has... extreme dementia.
01:06:43
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He had, he is like fully gone. It's adorable. And he's so sweet. And i love him. I called him like last year and yeah know, I've talked to him since then, but one time ah he was like, have you landed yet?
01:06:54
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And I'm like, what are you talking about grandpa? He's like on, on the moon yet. I'm like, Nope, still here on earth grandpa. You know? So, His is other things and he's had chemo and tons of antibiotics and things that like poisoned his system and his, you know, liver stuff. But it's like, okay, so circulation, that's the uptake of ah nutrition. That's uptake of blood. That's uptake of oxygen, but also making sure that you're eliminating.
01:07:17
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So the circulation is the whole, whole circulatory system. So inversions, my grandpa never did inversions, head massage, spicy foods,
01:07:29
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And foods that are known to be good for circulation, or foods and herbs that are known to be good for circulation. So yeah, spices, high iron herbs like red raspberry leaf, yellow dock, nettle. um Yeah, and massaging your scalp hot and cold.
01:07:44
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Showers or baths, and making sure that you put your head in it also, right? But yours is pretty light also. So maybe it would start to fade even as you gave it more circulation.
01:07:58
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I mean, you're clearly, so what's like think yeah, your your brain is fine now, clearly, like clearly. But, you know, just like my spleen is mostly fine, but if I'm not on it, I feel like sometimes it can ache, right?
01:08:13
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And so, again, these things are not to scare us. It's only to just create awareness and how can we alleviate our own suffering, right? So we if our eyes show us something, we don't fear it. We say, oh my gosh, thank you so much.
01:08:27
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Now I know what to do about it. And then you have some holding kind of in your liver area. That's what this darkening streak is. And the liver important, you know.
01:08:44
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Excuse me, it does so much filtering for the body. Just trying to look at all my brightness is so... Oh, do I have my fat on? I do not. So you probably guys just saw that.
01:08:55
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Okay.
01:08:58
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So yeah, making sure that you're taking care of your liver, and massaging your liver. Maybe you do some enemas, like a detox tea enema. make an awesome detox tea. Or maybe coffee enemas are really good for your liver.
01:09:12
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Avoiding oily foods. I mean, you do you do really good with your diet. But you know, if you're going to have a snack food, just don't have shitty oils in it, you know?
01:09:23
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um And most like this isn't because of what you're eating and doing now. It's like the accumulation of your entire lineage and your life up until this point. Right. And and herbs should be a part, you know, like if you haven't started learning about your local.
01:09:40
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um Bioregion, right, the herbs that go around you, that's the best place to start. Right. Find local herbs that are good for the blood, good for the liver, not because anything's wrong with you, but because you are nature and we're designed to have herbs that are wild all the time.
01:09:55
Speaker
You know, i'm drinking right now. There's herbs in here, right? The hearty herbal tea, because that's just what the human body is designed. You know, some people who are into the more carnivore or ancestral or primal diet, they're like, no plants and herbs or whatever. But to me,
01:10:09
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there are They say, you know, humans have always eaten most the animals. We've always met flintipores. But that doesn't make any sense. Plants have always been here. And you never, we never are just ate animals.
01:10:21
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We always ate a lot of wild plants, not grocery store carrots, you know, not grocery store spinach, but the wild spinach and the dandelion greens and the bark and the berries and the leaves. And we've always made herbal teas or infusions from them, you know.
01:10:37
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And it just matches our body's chemistry, biology really well. So learning around you, I don't know your flora very well.
01:10:48
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You have a lot. I feel like your area is like really mystical. Pretty diverse, actually. It's pretty diverse. It's more diverse than I thought it was. But yeah, it's cool. I've started that journey, but that's quite a, that's a daunting journey from starting from zero. But anyways, yeah.
01:11:04
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Never let it be daunting. Just follow your curiosity. So what but a good way ah to go about it is to get a local airbook and you can just search online like,
01:11:13
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herbal medicine of Nova Scotia and maybe get like one or two books and then just look at it and maybe you carry it around on a walk or you you find something in nature that you're like oh that's cool and you bring it home and you find it in your book you know so just starting you're never going to learn all the things and you're not you're also never going to learn all the things because one tree has so many properties also like the pine tree grass dandelions like you'll never learn everything about them but just like one little bit at a time and it's so um it's also very connective and very like nourishing for the nervous system to know that like mother earth has got you always and you're so connected and you're so apart and and also to be the one who knows what to do if you get sick like just go outside and get this thing and do this with it and here you go it's a very or know how to has been
01:12:04
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Sorry. No, I just, I know that that we got wrap it up here, but i this has just been amazing. I'm just curious so if there's anything you want to leave the listener with um to kind of wrap things up

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01:12:15
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Well, first of all, thank you for sharing yourself with me and with the people. That's a vulnerable thing to do.
01:12:21
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And valuable for yourself. That's valuable for other people. and so thanks for sharing all of that. so Clearly for the benefit of people like you're clearly just trying to share goodness in the world.
01:12:35
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So thank you. And... We only talked about a little bit, like you know like usually sessions with me are like two hours long, right? Because you can see how it's like, it's so, so much, you know? And um yeah, for anybody that's interested, check out my $20 intro to iridology class. It's on my website, understandthyself.com.
01:12:56
Speaker
I always do one-on-one sessions. um I can do like an emailed video analysis. It's cheaper. Or we can have a full two-hour conversation and you fill out my health intake form prior.
01:13:08
Speaker
And, um or just, yeah, start looking at your eyes. You know, sometimes it's better to look at your eyes and really tune in rather than jumping into iridology books. But if people feel called, they can definitely do iridology books.
01:13:22
Speaker
There's some great, really simple ones. You would want to start with a simple one. If anybody wants to study iridology in depth, have a really great iridology certification course. I also have ah holistic health and detoxification certification course.
01:13:37
Speaker
And yeah, I guess the best thing to leave you at is remember that everything is good and nothing is bad. And when you, as we start to learn about ourselves, we don't judge the things. We don't shame the things. We just notice, you know, we just notice what's happening and observe and and do your best. Just like keep doing your best, understand that you're doing your best and see maybe what your next best and even better could be.
01:14:08
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Phenomenal. Amazing. Amazing. Your website again was understanddyself.com. That's my personal. Fantastic handle. Yeah, I got it a long time ago. I'm sure I could sell it or something. But I do have my school website, which is School of Iridology.
01:14:22
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But you can find all of them together. Like they're all linked. And then I do have an amazing medicine company. I don't think I have. I have but just a lip balm with me. Yeah, I shipped to Canada and the US and UK and Australia. Yeah.
01:14:33
Speaker
Well, thank you, Haley, so much for for the amazing conversation. This has been absolutely amazing. Honestly, it's been a fantastic discussion. I'm sure we could have had you know, hours and hours of but on and on. so Yeah.
01:14:46
Speaker
So, but I really appreciate it. This has been great. Thank you. Thank you so much. And you reach out to me too anytime. We'll chat more after this, but if you want to know more or you want to learn about your wife's eyes and how I can share with you about your baby's eyes and what to look out for, um I would love to keep the conversation going.
01:15:03
Speaker
That'd be great. Awesome. Okay. Well, thank you so much. You're welcome.

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