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Beyond Terrain: Welcome everyone to another episode of The Bantering Podcast. I'm your host, Liam Dalton. If you're new around here, why don't you consider subscribing or following the show if you listen to the podcast version of this. And make sure you leave a review, a comment, maybe a rating. All great ways to help support the show. Sharing is obviously the best way because you get the word out, get it to a friend or family. All would be much appreciated. and We have a fantastic guest on today. A really great mind. Um, really, really, uh,
Beyond Terrain: amazing work. I've been looking into her work a little bit more recently. And yeah, I'm just I'm just really, really impressed with her approach, how she takes this like how she takes ah how she how she looks in and they how she really questions everything, you know, and I have a strong feeling that she's very, she has a high amount of integrity, which I really, really appreciate. And so I think that is really helpful, especially in any sort of scientific type discussion, right? Whether we're trying to get to the truth, I think that's really, really important because there's so much vested interest nowadays. And so I really feel like we're going to have a pure conversation here. And so, Robin, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for your time.
Robin: Thank you so much. Yeah, and I checked out your podcast as well, and I think we are of similar mindset. So I really appreciate you being out there and speaking your truth as well.
Beyond Terrain: Appreciate that. So the first question I ask all my guests is to get a little definition. I want to know how you define health. What does it look like? How does it manifest? You could really take this in any direction that you'd like. I just want to hear what you think. What is health?
Robin: I always like to go to the lowest common denominator, the simplest form, and so I believe health is when you're in harmony with your body systems. So everyone's harmony is going to be different. Everyone's nutritional needs is going to be different, but you have to know what your body's harmony is. And then when you start to venture out of that harmony, you get to know you get signals immediately so that you readjust. you know Was it the oatmeal I was eating? Was that causing problems? Boom, you're back in before you get you know diseases and illnesses stacking up.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, it sounds like there's this big component of sort of intuition or even just knowing yourself and knowing your body being kind of in tune with not only being able to receive the signals, but but being able to read them as well.
Robin: Right, and we're cut off from that, from birth. <unk> We're not told to trust our body's intuition. We're supposed to go to the lab and get give them their our blood and have them tell us what's wrong with us. We're supposed to listen to the white coats with the stethoscopes telling us you know what to put in our body, if our body's healthy.
Robin: We can't trust our own systems. And it starts even before we take our first breath. It's in utero. you know you're Your mother has to go get ultrasounds, which are so damaging to the fetus, to say that your baby's okay. Or even older women, you're supposed to get amniocentesis to see if the DNA is okay. And it's all just, I think, designed to separate us from that God -given intuition.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, like ah it's it's prevalent now everyone thinks that they need tests to know if they're healthy, they need to know their blood chemistry and they need to know you know, their genetics and all of these nuanced things that, you know, really the science isn't even there when you when you delve into it.
Robin: Right.
Beyond Terrain: I think that's a really important point. Yeah.
Robin: ah Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: and
Robin: And it's not just when you delve into like DNA, because I thought, you know, what's, what's the marketing scheme? Oh, they cast spells on you. So on 23andMe, I made the horrible mistake.
Robin: When I was like 30 or 40, I can't remember when I signed up for it because looking for my, I was adopted. So I was thinking I was going to find my birth father. It was the dumbest thing I've ever done. But I thought, why are these businesses so profitable? You know, Blackstone bought Ancestry dot .com for 45 billion or something like that. Why? um is They can cast spells of death and disease on you because on 23andMe, I can't even close the account. I've tried to, but they tell me I'm predisposed to this disease. 20 % more likely than the rest of the population to that illness. which has and And when you really delve into the the whole science behind it, it's it's not reality -based whatsoever. So they're just making it up.
Beyond Terrain: ah total unfalsifiable claims, but I think you make a really great point even forget about science, you know, you're being told that you're susceptible to all these diseases that you know, you have predisposition. And I think a spell is kind of the best way to encapsulate what's happening there, right? Because it's instilling fear. And the it's like a curse, right? It's like you're being, you know, it's going to be in the back of your mind.
Beyond Terrain: all the time, oh no, like I'm gonna get breast cancer, skin cancer, whatever it takes, it you know what I mean? Like, it's just terrible.
Robin: That's verifiable. so They made up this whole um fantasy about BRAC1 and BRAC2 genes. and Angelina Jolie, everyone's favorite at the time, made the brave choice because she tested positive for both to have her breasts removed and reconstructed.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: well i i mean You can look at her now. There is no way that woman had her breasts removed and reconstructed. She made it all up, but thousands of women had their breasts removed, healthy breasts because of that.
Beyond Terrain: yeah And our minds are obviously extremely powerful.
Robin: And how many, you know, hundreds of thousands got tested and now it's in their brain. Oh no, I could get breast cancer. You're saying it over and over and over, programming yourself.
Beyond Terrain: Especially when it comes to healing and health and disease, you know, you can certainly will your way to health and will your way to disease at the same time, right?
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: It's a double -edged sword.
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: We're very powerful either way.
Robin: It's the belief Yeah, and that's what they work on they work on your belief that knowing I know and this happened to my half -sister she Knew because she was a smoker couldn't quit.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: She knew she was gonna get breast cancer. She just knew it and And so she went in and you know got tested and they said, you don't have anything. You have some benign tumor. She said, take them both off.
Robin: I have breast cancer. And now she does.
Beyond Terrain: know Amazing. one Unbelievable.
Robin: ah That's the blue.
Beyond Terrain: It's a common story too.
Robin: Oh, extremely common. And I still was working in home health and hospice. So I get to see the tail end of the medical industrial complex and their tricks, smoke, mirrors, all of the things that they get everyone to believe in.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: Instead of coming back to that God given intuition and synergy within your own body.
Beyond Terrain: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to hear a little bit more about that because I think that's so unique. Yeah. You, know you were sort of boots on the ground in the field, seeing this stuff. You weren't working in a hospital environment. You say you did a lot of home stuff. I'd love to maybe just hear a little bit more about that and kind of some insights that came from that, right? Seeing that firsthand.
Robin: Well, the the most amazing thing I did was through home health because I couldn't work in a hospital. I'd get arrested probably that that day. there's There's no way. And I couldn't administer drugs or shots or anything like that. So I've always worked in the home health sector.
Robin: i used to so I started out in locked psychiatric wards and I thought at that time it was the psychotropic medications that were horrible that caused these horrible side effects, but in the you know ah more normal population home health, we could actually do some good as a nurse. Well, boy, was I wrong. It's the same it's the same game. And so I just started looking at what the playbook is. But in hospice, I get to take patients who are at the end, the doctors, and and they'll say, you have less than six months to live. That's how you get a hospice designation. Well, that just basically means the medical industrial complex doesn't think they can get any more money out of you. dave They've gotten every last dime.
Robin: So now you can go on hospice and take the the hospice drugs, which is Haldol and morphine and lorazepam and you know a few others and just sort of fade away. Well, I always ask the patient, hang on just one second, I've got to get my ah dog She's whining. Come on. So on hospice, as the nurse, I get to put patients on medications or take them off. The patient gets to decide, but I always say, hey, are you ready to pass? Are you ready to transcend? Or do you want to see if there's something that we can do so that you know you're not on hospice anymore?
Robin: Most people are ready to go. They're tired. they've they Their body's given out. Some people are not, or their families are not. so So what we'll do is we'll get them off all their drugs, including vitamins and supplements. No titration schedule, just boom, stop taking them. And then I'll have them do like a little quarter teaspoon of baking soda underneath the tongue, because a lot of people aren't really willing to change their diets. um And if they have like,
Robin: um different issues within the body like severe edema or lymphedema or you know, the scales and their legs are the size of tree trunks and look like tree trunks. Well, I have seen people coming in with end -stage cancer know leaving with no longer having cancer just from doing those simple things.
Robin: we stopped the root cause of whatever was toxifying their body and poisoning it. And if it it's not damaged past the point of no return, I've seen several miraculous healings, if you want to call them that.
Beyond Terrain: That's amazing. Wow. And so back, you worked in a psychiatric hospital initially, right? How long did you do that? That's so interesting as well.
Robin: like a decade. So I was in mental health for over a decade.
Beyond Terrain: ah one
Robin: And in the Locke Psychiatric Hospital, i my job ah was as a case manager was to get people into their own homes.
Robin: So we're talking you know people that have severe schizophrenia, maybe had some criminal background, and you're you're supposed to get them on.
Robin: you know voluntarily taking their meds. Most people don't want to take those drugs because they're just horrific side effects. So you're supposed to force them to take their meds and then get them to move out. Well, I didn't like forcing anyone to take the meds because I thought, well, I wouldn't want to take them either. But we would kind of look to see like, can you, you know, get up to baseline like ah a normal human being and live outside in the community. And a lot of times it was yes. Like I wouldn't treat them any differently than I would say, have a conversation with you or anyone else I just met. I would hold them to a higher standard and a lot of them rose to that standard.
Beyond Terrain: Absolutely. Yeah. And I'm thinking back. ah We had a discussion with Mr. Robert Whitaker and he brought up the Quakers back in the day. And it was all about like dealing with the extremes of mental illness.
Beyond Terrain: And, um, you know, it was all about treating them with, you know, like anyone else, right? Like treating them like an insane person is like a self -fulfilling prophecy in a way.
Robin: What?
Beyond Terrain: Often, you know, there's a lot of really interesting accounts of people developing you know, psychosis or schizophrenia because they've just been treated this way their whole life. Um, and to tie it into our, to our other others, the start of our discussion there, um, in the book, how to become a schizophrenic, there was this really, um, interesting dialogue around, um, having an, uh, like an aunt or a relative that had psychosis. And because there was psycho, somebody who was psychotic in the family,
Beyond Terrain: then if somebody was off, like a child was off, they would say, oh, it must it could be familial or it could be genetic, right?
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: And then they would say, you might end up being insane like an aunt. And I think that was one of the criteria that um Modro pointed out in that book, How to Become a Schizophrenia, was it was like a ah criteria that having someone in the family created this environment to be able to justify treating like a young one like they're insane or something like that. And then it's just a self affiliate prophecy. So I think that's kind of an interesting point on casting a spell as we were talking about earlier. And um yeah, so I'm really curious on your thoughts on these, you know, more severe types of of mental illness, you know, like schizophrenia, psychosis, stuff like that, you know,
Beyond Terrain: what What were some of the things, you know, treating them like normal people and really like treating them with a high degree of respect like everyone else? You know, that was probably a huge part of the healing aspect. Was there anything else that you kind of found um to be helpful in the healing journey there? Even we could maybe tie this into, what do you think the causes are of these severe mental illnesses?
Robin: Well, you know and I saw thousands of different people throughout that 10 years, and the common denominator was usually like an event, usually around adolescence.
Robin: So whether the hormones triggered it, but there was usually you know some type of severe trauma, but i I couldn't see that it was any different from anyone else's. So I think it's difficult to so to to say, okay, it was because of that. um The vaccines, are they dormant for a period of time? Do they do they get activated with the hormones and adolescents? I don't know.
Robin: Was it a combination? you know Like with mercury, I looked up how toxic is mercury and like Mad Hatter disease, you know where they would wear the hats and the mercury was there because they would shape the hats. But the guys making the hats would dip their bare hands in the mercury for years without getting mercury poisoning. Eventually, of course, they would.
Robin: But it took a long time going straight into the mercury. So what is it that's causing that? Is it extreme stress in the household? I mean, I think that yes, we are resilient as humans, but they each one of us has a breaking point. and it's different for everyone. So you can traumatize a child up to a point and then they break. And is that breaking point because of all of the other factors, mercury poisoning, vaccines, I think it is a lot of it. I saw one patient who
Robin: was at a locked psychiatric hospital and had he had no fingers because his mom had put his hands into a blender. Probably not a child that would have developed schizophrenia, but he developed severe schizophrenia. But again, it was that breaking point. you know Your mother, the the the woman that's supposed to nurture you and keep you safe is the opposite.
Robin: you know and he yeah The medical establishment would say that would not be possible because you can't give someone schizophrenia. Or at the time, I would argue with a psychiatrist that I don't think this is because of you know a dopamine, you know, issue or a serotonin issue.
Robin: I think he was traumatized and maybe he would benefit from different modalities, but no, of course it was just drug strike strikes drugs. And that just, it's just chemical restraints.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: You're not actually helping anyone.
Beyond Terrain: and I think another interesting aspect of it is like, you know, because there's this interesting connection to, to traumatic events. And, you know, I think that there's likely this complex interplay between toxicity and our traumatic events, or, um, even not living in alignment with nature and not being having the capacity to be able to ah process these events as they come. Right.
Beyond Terrain: Um, because, you know, it's not like this was seen and in tribal settings for the most part, right. And so they were living, you know, natural lifestyle free of toxicity largely.
Robin: All right.
Beyond Terrain: And, um, but I wonder, you know, because this initial sort of psychosis, the psychotic event, right.
Beyond Terrain: I wonder if like allowing that to manifest has something to do with the healing process, you know, because I'm thinking back to my conversations on these topics and and the book, How to Become a Schizophrenic, great book.
Beyond Terrain: um You know, oftentimes when there's not, when they're not given these psychotropic drugs, which just exasperated the issue and allowed it to continue cyclically over and over and over again because you can never get off of them because they actually create schizophrenia or psychosis.
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: um I wonder if allowing that to manifest, like the event to manifest, because you're obviously dealing with, you know, oftentimes, you know, if it is trauma related, you're dealing with this distorted reality.
Robin: Right.
Beyond Terrain: And so then your brain becomes like, it obviously, it becomes distorted. And maybe that manifestation of that has something to do with the healing process, right, as you're mentioning, the mother who's supposed to be the nurturing figure in the child's life is putting your hands in a blender right that is is distorted of what is true and what is natural so any any thoughts on that?
Robin: Well, i i i mean it's it's each one of us has this manifestation of symptoms. And so I think as a society, we're we're obsessed with the diagnostic code. like We've been brainwashed into thinking it's schizophrenia. Instead of what exactly are the symptoms, I had a lot of young men. They seemed older men at the time. They were in their like late 20s and 30s.
Robin: that told me the CIA implanted a brain chip in their brain. And ever since then, they heard voices. And these were highly successful men. Some were worked at Boeing. This is up in Bellingham, Washington. Some worked at Boeing. Some worked in high -level government jobs. How do I know the government did not implant a brain chip, especially now? At the time, I thought, could have me maybe.
Robin: Maybe, but it pushes you to the point, you know, to kind of think, well, the government experiment experimented with LSD.
Robin: MK ultra programming experiments with LSD. Like you are what working towards splitting people's minds. Like Britney Spears is a prime example. You can see like she has split personalities. They do that.
Robin: um in MK ultra programming I interviewed Julia Ingle for She was a in the sex magic Program with the government and those books that she wrote angels over Moscow and um there was another one I can't think of it off the top of my head but talks about how they go about splitting the mind I Don't you know, so so I think some people were implanted with brain chips, I think Some people, like that patient with the hands, was his mind was split with the trauma. you know we're ah We all have this electrical system. like You can fry your electrical system in your brain, too, with severe trauma. or you know I don't know about the whole adrenochrome if it's real or not, but the the science is real. like you can so You can scare someone so much, especially a child, knowing they're going to die, they will release that.
Robin: specific adrenaline.
Beyond Terrain: Wow. Yeah. Yeah, you can't put it past the the government, honestly. Yeah.
Robin: None of it. I don't put it past any of it. And, you know, I think like German new medicine always wants to find it was a shock and then that's it. And, you know, other modalities is like, no, it was this. You have parasites or no, it's this. I don't think we can ever just reduce it down to the one thing because we are, you know,
Robin: how many different experiences have we had up until that point? And to say that you figured out which ones they were, I think is impossible.
Robin: But then I just look at you know kind of what what were the symptoms that started manifesting? And then let's back up. Before that, what was going on? Can we can we meddle around in that six to 10 weeks prior to the symptoms?
Robin: manifesting and see if there was something that changed that we can go back to you know how you were operating before that. Maybe get rid of certain toxins and poisons.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, yeah, well put. Yeah, that kind of ties into a couple of the other topics I wanted to touch on the role of trauma in disease. i Really curious about your thoughts on this. You know, when it comes to things like chronic illness or cancers or stuff like that, you know, I'm really curious about your thoughts on If trauma has a role and in the development of these diseases, is it, you know, case by case? Just love to to hear some thoughts on that.
Robin: Well, I think we have gotten obsessed with trauma and being like a victim, like wearing the heavy victim medallion. It's like, well, leev I can't really show up in my potential because did you see my long laundry list of traumas? Because, you know, there's no way I'm going to show up and do my best because I'm traumatized. And then.
Robin: they You know, they call it like peeling back the layers of the onion. And I don't like that because then what are you left with? Nothing. You know, everyone was traumatized, but what was, what did we make it mean? What did we believe about that? I mean, I've suffered significant trauma. You can read my old stories, like the rifle and and certain things. And you would think, well, and and even my birth story was insane, but you can think,
Robin: All right, well, that's going to push me under, and I'm going to develop diseases. And I got to be really careful with my psyche and my this whole you know chemical biology. But yet, I i can believe it was ah was the thing that's allowing me to be more intelligent, more empathetic, more understanding. i it's It's helped me to reach my potential. I suppose the same circumstances, but what did I make it mean?
Robin: So I think there's a heavy reliance on trauma, shock, whatever causing disease. Of course, it is part of it if you're consuming vitamins and supplements and going to Jack in the Box and drinking alcohol and waking up in the morning with a cup of coffee. But no, it's it's the trauma that happened when you were six years old.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, sometimes it can kind of be, you know, a way to off put the responsibility of taking care of your environment and feeding yourself a diet that's not deficient in anything.
Robin: Yes.
Robin: Well, and that's the same thing that I think because I got an award when I left Washington from the psychiatrist because the patients on my caseload did significantly better.
Beyond Terrain: Wow.
Robin: But I did not put the extra work into it. I didn't follow anything. We were supposed to put them on a point system and do these punitive things. I just treated them like an adult.
Robin: We had conversations, adult to adult. And I said, i you deserve to live better. Like you're selling yourself short. I see potential in you. And if you don't see it, you know, I'm not going to be a constant cheerleader, but here's your options. Here's your opportunities.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah. And that's kind of like the opposite message. That's what's being given when it's all being reduced to trauma, right? Like you're traumatized and you're broken and you're, yeah.
Robin: Yes. Let's talk more about that.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. So I do, um, I, I, I practice psychotherapy and I do EMDR, eye movement desensitization reprocessing.
Beyond Terrain: I think it's such an interesting modality because you know, based on what you're saying too, you know, it's It's kind of how you internalize things. So I don't necessarily work with ah traumatic events per se, but I work with the associated self beliefs, right?
Beyond Terrain: and Because I'm really concerned with sort of the mental health component of it, right? My claim to cure, cure any physical ailments through trauma processing, but you know, these associated self esteem issues, anxieties, different things like that can really be tied to these negative self beliefs, right?
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: And so that is what I like,
Robin: Yes.
Beyond Terrain: I aim to break down the negative ones, build up positive ones, but it's all, you know, we say trauma and we kind of meet what we mean by that is like negative life experience, you know, but that then that that leaves the other side of the coin where there's positive life experiences and, you know,
Robin: Right.
Beyond Terrain: It's all about how you interpret it at the same time. Because if you internalize it, you know, it can be very negative. Even a positive experience that somebody might think is positive, you can internalize it as negative. And so it comes very subjective. Because at the end of the day, the experiences that we face are... There is no good or bad or whatever. These are all human inputs, right? Nature just is what it is. These experiences just are.
Beyond Terrain: you know, we can we can attribute our own morality onto it and try to really project onto our experiences. But yeah, so I think it's you're really working within kind of like that subjective part of things there too.
Robin: yeah And that's where we're taught to live. We're taught to live in that subjective experience and that's what is forming us when the opposite is true.
Beyond Terrain: Hmm.
Robin: So we would we could be so much more resilient if we're taught, you know, this wasn't a an event. Now you have to go within yourself and, and, and create, you know, if you want to be the hero of that story, create yourself as the hero. And because, you know, animals can't carry on, you know, the story like on their backs and carry, you know, all this, all this weight around they, they have trauma. They see they witnessed their children getting, you know, eaten by a lion. Okay.
Robin: And then they shake it out and they go on living. You know, they don't develop a drug addiction and alcoholism and like, well, you know, I saw my child get killed and really it's not my fault. I drink a bottle of wine a night.
Beyond Terrain: It's a great way to put it, honestly. um that's That's hilarious. But yeah, when when it comes to that, I think you're you're absolutely right.
Beyond Terrain: and like it might not you know i I know you're using comedy here a little bit, but you know like the animals don't just lay down in a cave and just willow away and die. like they They continue on.
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: You know, like obviously they're not going to reach for a bottle of wine, realistically speaking, but they could very well lay down and never get up again.
Robin: Yes.
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: You know, like, so like, you know, you're highlighting a great point here and, um, I really appreciate that. But that's true. It's true. They shake it off. I think that's another big thing. You know, it's, it's really funny.
Beyond Terrain: Like I learned that from my dog, you know, every time he gets, even when he gets a physical trauma, right? Like he gets hit in the head by a law, like when he runs into a tree or something, to you know, he's a silly dog, right?
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: He walks away, he shakes it off, and he's on to the next thing.
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: you know And he'll go and do it again.
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: you know He might learn. He learns slow. i like I think he learns a little slow, but he does learn eventually. But every time something happens, he shakes it off and he moves on.
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: you know So that's something that you can do.
Robin: yeah hi take me some here here yeah and i think I think the game changer is when you realize like no matter what life throws at you, you're going to get back up.
Beyond Terrain: You can shake it off. You know what I mean? like You can shake off. If something bad happens to you, shake it off. Yeah.
Robin: It might take a couple of days. You might need to wallow in your, you know, self -pity for a minute or two, but you're going to get back up.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That empowerment piece is big, right? And I think, uh, this kind of ties into the role of like even higher power in, in health and wellness, you know, having that faith that, that you have that ability, right?
Beyond Terrain: That that is, that is in you that you are resilient. You know, we are very resilient.
Robin: yeah We are truly.
Beyond Terrain: You know, yeah, go ahead, please.
Robin: Well, I was just going to say, like that I really like what you said about you know having that faith. You have the faith, the sun is going to come up in the morning, the same faith that you have. like You are going to persevere. You are going to get out of this depression that you're in or the anxiety. You'll figure it out. Keep going. Yes, that didn't work. That didn't work. That didn't work. That didn't work. It's just pushing you to the one that one thing that does work, and that's where we can maybe train more about resilience than victim.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think that's a really important message and I don't think human beings, you know, since we are these beings that can carry a story with us, we can carry this weight and these you know it it's it is built within us, right?
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: But I don't think that a human being can live without faith, you know like the atheist delusion in a way. I think that people think that they're atheist because they're like, oh, I believe in science, but that's the faith.
Robin: it's the same right
Beyond Terrain: it Science is the biggest religion out there, right?
Robin: let
Beyond Terrain: You have faith that the sun comes up in the morning, not because of
Robin: drtly
Beyond Terrain: you know, the beautiful divine, but you have faith because science has proven it so. You know, it's the same thing. It's just a different story, but you still have faith. But the problem with when you have faith in science, science is filled with half truths and all of this nonsense and these death stories, you know, it's on the death cycle of things. Everything's leading to disease and dismay. And, you know, whereas when it comes to, to believe and have faith in like higher power of some sort, you know, it's all about,
Beyond Terrain: beauty and love and light and life. you know So there's big discrepancy there.
Robin: Yes And are that's it that's and that's the difference you have faith at the sunlight as the same as you have faith that you Someone has your back and your healing is there, you know, you'll get through it.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah. Yeah.
Robin: You'll get through it in a beautiful synergistic harmonious way and I agree with you like we can't live without that we can't live without I mean people call it the universe.
Robin: I call it god. I had an experience with god when I was three and let me Let me close that door.
Beyond Terrain: Sure.
Robin: It's got the leaf blower. OK. But I had an experience oh sorry um with God when I was three.
Beyond Terrain: Someone please.
Robin: And you know I had wandered away from our campsite in the middle of nowhere and was gone the whole day. And of course, my parents were worried sick. And when I came back, I was shocked that everyone was so worried I'd only be gone a few minutes, but it had been the entire day. I had just, I'd been in a clearing. I'd seen this light. I understood things. Not like I was the special chosen one, but it was, the message was that we're all the special chosen ones. You know, and we don't need the the religion as our step stone.
Robin: to understanding we go within and we trust that and we listen to the voice of God through us.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, I mean, that's a really powerful experience. I wonder, you know, what would you say to someone who hasn't had that experience, you know, as kind of the proof in a way?
Beyond Terrain: I'm just curious what your thoughts are on like, how to even begin going within and finding this power, right?
Robin: a
Beyond Terrain: Because I feel like people are longing for it. And I feel like a lot of people don't realize it, not that they don't have it. Because like you said, everybody is the chosen one.
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: We've all we all have this. But some people might not feel like that.
Robin: and Yeah. Number one, stop seeking it. Number two is get rid of any impediments, alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, cannabis, prescription drugs, vitamins, supplements, packaged foods, anything with HEK 293 cell line in it, you know, get rid of all of that.
Robin: so that you can hear and then you have to get silent. Now, you know I think people are so freaking freaking out about how fast time is going because when you're not engaged with someone, you're scrolling on your phone and that's a time eraser. So you have to get rid of all of those distractions and then get quiet long enough to hear. So that might be a four hour hike that might be you know turning off the radio and everything else when you're driving. It's just what I do. I drive around you know to home health patients with no radio on so I can hear. and it takes you know you It takes a long time, I think. It takes a long time of that silence before you can then hear something come through you.
Beyond Terrain: that's That's absolutely beautiful. And that's something that I feel like that's what everyone lacks. That silence.
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: We're constantly engaged in something.
Robin: simple We're constantly engaged in something that is focusing our attention for a few seconds at a time. You know, we were all just commenting, you know, a few years ago, how we're all goldfish brains.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: And now it's just, it keeps getting shorter and shorter and shorter, our attention span. And that's, I think by design, you're so much easier to rule over as a slave population that we are when you are distracted.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, it's so multifaceted because because it's not only are we easy to rule over, we're also really easy to make money off of and really easy to just keep docile.
Robin: You can. Yeah.
Robin: Exactly.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, it's just like so multifaceted.
Robin: That's that'sly like the Egyptians, you know, they they gave the slaves beer on the weekends. And that kept them in the cycle. So they were better slaves when they gave them beer on the weekend.
Robin: Well, now they figured out, why would you just give away the beer, get the slaves to buy their own beer with all the the money they made during the week. like they're They're clever because they're working backwards.
Robin: I don't think they're that smart, but you know this is how the I think this is how they operate whole time.
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Beyond Terrain: Yeah. and And I mean, I think if you look at history too, you'll see that they've operated in the same manner for the most part, the whole time, right? Like they have one playbook, it's Machiavellian, it's all, this it's terrible, but they use it over and over and over again.
Robin: That's it.
Robin: It works.
Beyond Terrain: And you know, it works, it's been working, you know, and they just change the words, right? Like even with the whole germ theory thing, it's all the same.
Robin: right
Beyond Terrain: They just change the name of the virus or they change the name of the germ or they change the name of whatever, like, and it just keeps working.
Robin: yeah
Robin: It's the new one. Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: Yeah. This one's the scary one.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, exactly.
Robin: Or this is the miracle care. Not the last ones. We admit, okay, they were poisoned, but no, this is the one.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: And everyone falls for it.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: i I'm shocked every time. like People still ask me about, well, what about this drug? Or what about that? No. It's still a toxic poison to your body.
Robin: You can't poison the body back to health.
Beyond Terrain: Let's talk about that. Vitamins, supplements, medicines, tinctures, all of these great things that are being sold to us constantly on our Instagram feeds.
Robin: yeah
Beyond Terrain: What's the problem with them?
Robin: So here's here's what I have narrowed it down to. You hide God. You hide the miraculous capacity of your body to heal itself with nothing because I don't have a control. I don't have the Robin 2 .0 that didn't take the miracle care and got better. I just, usually when we're ready to take that tincture or that vitamin or that supplement, I have changed my life Up until that point, I've stopped eating junk food. I stopped going to Starbucks. I quit drinking alcohol. But then I'm going to take this, you know, elixir and I'm going to say that healed me instead of my body healed itself. So I think that's, we're always seeking that external. If you look at vitamins, I started out looking at vitamin D3 because my son broke his shoulder from a shortfall.
Robin: like a little old lady. I mean, the shoulder break was severe. I actually gasped when I saw the x -ray and I wouldn't let him x -ray it for a few weeks because I didn't want x -rays going into a fresh break and right into the bone. My brother actually got bone cancer that way, but I thought it was just isolated vitamin D3 as rat poison. It pulls calcium from the bones. That's probably why what happened to him. I started researching all vitamins and supplements.
Robin: Well, they're made in the identical way that you make a prescription. Like if you're going to get, you know, digoxin from Foxglove, it's not like you put the Foxglove plant into his, you know, machine and it extracts out the active ingredient of Foxglove and you get digoxin. It's we pick one compound out of digoxin out of the half million and we make a chemical copy. Same thing with vitamin D3. Same thing with vitamin B1 thiamin.
Robin: You pick one compound out of bran, you make a chemical copy out of coal tar, ammonia, acetone, hydrochloric acid, you know, and other chemicals. So we're not chemically deficient. We're love deficient, we're nutrient deficient, but all of those can be accumulated no matter where you are at any time. I have, I've seen that. I believe that is true.
Robin: But we want we want the savior.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: We want RFK Jr. is going to save us. Trump's going to save us. you know Whoever it is, they want the savior. And so I think I trigger people so much because I take away their binky of their miracle care and I take away their savior.
Robin: And it's like, no, you got to do the work.
Beyond Terrain: Wow. Yeah. Probably the most meaningful thing you can do, though.
Robin: It is, and that's real love, I think.
Beyond Terrain: Absolutely.
Robin: you know, that telling someone the truth as you see it, take it or leave it. Like I want to show you, there's a question to ask and a choice to make. Please make an informed one. I will love you either way.
Beyond Terrain: Sure.
Robin: I don't care if you still want to take the vitamins, but hear what I have to say that that's not paid. I'm not paid to say anything. I don't get any money. If you go by Brussels sprouts, instead of, you know, taking a vitamin B12,
Robin: but just at least hear another side of the equation. And if you still choose, that's great. Now I can rest at night because I know that you have all of the information, or at least, you know, as much as we can get in this insane world where we can actually get too much information.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, in the age of information, we all know nothing. Um, I'm curious, can we kind of differentiate supplements?
Robin: Exactly.
Beyond Terrain: Like, uh, what if you think bee pollen is a supplement? Like I kind of think about these things a little differently, right? I think you're really referring to like the petrochemical derived supplements, right?
Robin: Yeah, chemically made supplements, like supplements I'm not referring to and it would never as something that is from the God -given world.
Beyond Terrain: Stuff like that.
Robin: So something that you get out of your beehive or an herb, but they still need to be treated with just as much respect as anything else. You can't just you know go into the forest and start chewing on leaves.
Robin: like Everything has an energy in our frequency and you have to really know and be able to communicate with plants on their level.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, you need to be attuned with your environment, right? With what's around you, right?
Robin: Yes.
Beyond Terrain: And that's, that's a lost art too.
Robin: It is. Well, and I have the fortune of growing up in the middle of nowhere, Nevada, where we were not allowed to be in the inside the house if the sun was out.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: Rain or shine, doesn't matter what temperature it was, which I loved. And so we were free to wander wherever we wanted to wander and I would communicate with the plants.
Robin: The mountains would tell me bedtime stories and I didn't know everyone else didn't hear that. So I went into school and I had this particularly great story I wanted to tell my friends and mountains had told me last night.
Robin: And so I said, I was trying to get the conversation going. So I'm like, well, what do the mountains tell you when they put you to bed? What are you talking about? You're insane. And I was so disappointed. I was like, I can't share my story. I was thinking that we're going to really get excited about this, about this bedtime story the mountains told me. And that kind of shut it all down. I was like, well, if I'm going to have friends, I can't actually be myself anymore.
Beyond Terrain: Wow. So what did the mountains tell you as a bedtime story? Do you remember? I'm so curious.
Robin: Well, and there was two mountains behind where my my bedroom was. And so I called them the grandfathers. Then the grandfathers would tell me like how it was specific what I had done that day. like You were really good talking to your teacher. I know you were nervous, but you did such a good job. We're so proud of you. Just things like that. Just really simple you know four or five -year -old compliments.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: And I just loved it because my parents were not, you know, the nicest. And, um, and so I was seeking that unconditional love.
Beyond Terrain: Sure.
Robin: I got it. I got that medicine all around me.
Beyond Terrain: Wow. Wow.
Beyond Terrain: Hmm. Yeah. I think that speaks to the power of the silence too, right? You're not, you weren't going to bed as a five year old with an iPad.
Robin: Exactly. Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah.
Robin: Nothing, no distractions in the room.
Beyond Terrain: to
Robin: I mean, the TV that we grew up with, it had three channels and it was black and white.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, exactly.
Robin: There's nothing on anyway, but of course, of course we watched it.
Beyond Terrain: Sure. Yeah. Well, I think this might be a great time to wrap things up on that beautiful little story there at the end. I really appreciate you sharing that. Do you have anything that you want to add to this episode?
Beyond Terrain: Any final thoughts? and Anything that you might have missed? Now would be the time to share.
Robin: um The one thing I like to leave everyone is like my tagline, you are the medicine. Like you don't need anything external for the most part, you correct where you are out of harmony and the body will heal itself. But again, that's not a trillion dollar industry.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah, you're not going to make too much money telling people that, right?
Robin: No, no, what is but it's like, I went, you know, everyone wants to ask me, what do I eat in the morning? Well, you're not my clone. So don't eat what I'm eating.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah,
Robin: I want the. Look to yourself. You are so wise. You are so powerful. Listen to the voice from within. Start to to like link back up with your intuition.
Beyond Terrain: yeah that's great. Yeah, spend some time in silence. I love that.
Robin: Yes.
Beyond Terrain: So how can the listener learn more about your beautiful message? How can they support you? Where can they find you?
Robin: I just go to my website purifywithin .com. I have a nice little group over on Telegram. You can join there. It's not for debate. We're not in there arguing back and forth. It's just, hey, I have um symptoms of a rash. What do you guys think? And everyone kind of chimes in, well, what happened you know when you started the rash? So that's kind of our little, um how do we actually heal? Because um we're done debating over ah distracting ourselves with this and that. It's what are we capable of if we're not poisoned in any way? And let's start to have the conversation around that. So that's you can go to Purify Within and click on the Telegram group link. I teach classes several times a year, so you're more than welcome to join my classes. I just started an 11 -week course to help people get all of the toxins out of their homes so that you can eat your laundry soap if you wanted to, not that it's tasty.
Robin: You can eat your dishwasher soap because you're eating it anyway if you're using it. So you know how to get rid of all the toxins and make all of the products for pennies on the dollar. So you're going to save at least $1 ,500 the first year if you do all the um homemade recipes.
Beyond Terrain: So cool. That sounds amazing. Awesome.
Robin: Yeah.
Beyond Terrain: Yeah. We'll put all the links down below for everyone to make it nice and easy for you guys to access her and her amazing work. So Robin, thank you so much for your time that I really appreciate you coming on and and sharing some of your message with us.
Robin: Thank you so much for having me. You are a delight.
Beyond Terrain: Thank you. I want to thank you all for listening. Of course, you should all know that this is not medical or psychotherapeutic or any sort of advice just for your informational purposes only. But also remember that we're all responsible sovereign beings capable of thinking, criticizing, and understanding absolutely anything. We, the people in the greater force, are together self -healer, self-governable self -governable, self -teachers, and so much more. Make sure to reach out if you have any questions, criticisms, comments, concerns in order to find me Instagram, email, YouTube comments, whatever. I'll get back to you at some point.
Beyond Terrain: Really appreciate you guys sharing your thoughts on the episodes. Really eager to hear what you guys think about this one. And if you did like this, make sure you give us a like, share, comment, follow, subscribe, review, rating, whatever you got to do in the platform you're on. Help us grow, help get the word out. Be much appreciated. Just remember, there are two types of people in the world. Those believe they can, those believe they can't, and they are both correct. Thanks for listening, guys. Take care.
