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Dr. Gabe Roberts on the Importance of Ages 0-5, Root Causes of Trauma, The Subconscious Mind, and More!
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This week we are delighted to have Dr. Gabe Roberts on the podcast! First, we delve into Dr. Roberts' view on health and how central the alignment of the inner world is. This is a key point for moving forward in this episode and for overall well-being.
We discuss the subconscious mind and its implications. A very important topic covered is the definition of love, which ties into the discussion on the importance of ages 0-5. Dr. Roberts shares that the root cause of all trauma resides in these early years.
We then discuss mental illnesses, how to address trauma, and the mind beyond the brain. We also touch on the work of Rupert Sheldrake and the concept of the holographic mind. Dr. Roberts further explains the holographic approach.
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00:00:01
beyondterrain
Welcome back everybody to another episode of the on train podcast. I'm mostly of Dalton. Today we have Dr. Gabe Roberts on and I'm very much looking forward to this episode here today. I think we're going to have a fantastic discussion. I think there's a lot that we agree on and a lot that, uh, this man understands that I certainly want to learn more about. So, uh, this is going to be a fantastic episode. I already know that Dr. Roberts, thank you so much for coming on today.
00:00:27
Dr Gabe Roberts
Hey, it's great to be here, Liev. Thank you for having me.
00:00:32
beyondterrain
Certainly. So the question I asked all my guests at the start of the, start of our episodes, and I'm really looking forward to your answer. The question is, what is health? And it's going to be as broad and general and ah abstract as you'd like it to be, but it always gives us a great baseline to work off of. So what is health? What does it mean to you? How does it manifest? Things like this. Yeah.
00:00:56
Dr Gabe Roberts
Right, so that's a great question. And I think kind of like your kind of like your understanding and hinting at, it can have a broad, vague understanding to most people. And whenever we say something like that, like like the question, what is health, suddenly everyone's own interpretation starts to kind of kick in and we might agree on some things but as we start to kind of narrow it down there might be some things that are not necessarily in alignment with what health is. So in my opinion what health is is where we're going to be fully in line with living harmoniously and that includes our outside world as well as getting you know
00:01:45
Dr Gabe Roberts
you know staying physically fit or at least um having you know some kind of physical activity at least we're doing you know on a regular basis whether it's walking whether it's just basic yard work or gardening some kind of physical activity as well as doing our best to eat whole foods that our our grandparents would have recognized and avoiding the ones that are the bio-engineered, technically manipulated you know food matter that we're we have an abundance of today, um as well as drinking water and and having adequate sunshine and things like that.
00:02:21
Dr Gabe Roberts
But that's all kind of the surface area and that's where any kind of doctor worth two cents is going to recognize. The other part that's often missed is the alignment with inside and that is where we have harmony within our deeper mind and there's there's no conflicts, there's no criticism of self, there's no, um you know, there's just acceptance for who we are. So there's self-love and then that means we might not We might not um be the most you know be the most easily accepted with how things are, but we just accept them how they are and we do so without conflict, without but that shame, without blame, without guilt, things like that. Because if we have those kind of pockets going on,
00:03:10
Dr Gabe Roberts
on the internal environment, it's always going to spill over and affect our external environment, whether it's our relationships, whether it's our health, whether it's our our mental well-being, etc. So I think health is um fully aligned on the internal world and the external world.
00:03:31
beyondterrain
Yeah, it seems like it covered all the bases there, right? i I think that was a great interpretation of that, great explanation. You mentioned this alignment with inside. That's a really interesting concept that, you know, I'd love to explore a little bit more here. If you want to maybe broaden that a little bit, I'll give you the floor to expand on. You mentioned acceptance and that's, that I think is truly central, right? You, you said it a couple of times. So maybe if I could just hear a little bit more on that.
00:03:58
Dr Gabe Roberts
Sure. So alignment on the internal world. Um, this is probably the most overlooked misunderstood and, um, You know, it's oftentimes a short-changed concept when it comes to health. Many times when a person is trying to achieve health or healing in some way, maybe they've been struck with some kind of illness like diabetes or maybe obesity or or some kind of chronic infection.
00:04:29
Dr Gabe Roberts
Well, the first thing that usually starts to happen is they want to get smart on the subject and they will they won pursue a professional, maybe a doctor, it could be a medical doctor with antibiotics or could be a natural based doctor with functional medicine or naturopathic medicine. And then usually there's a course of, of you know, doing some lab work, trying to investigate and trying to influence how the person's life is right now and how they can modify it moving forward. The problem is is the past is missed.
00:05:09
Dr Gabe Roberts
The past is missed in a majority of cases. It certainly was and my with my colleagues. um It certainly is in the investigations that I do, and it certainly is with the people that I that i contact, patients that contact me and have chronic illness whenever I ask them about their past. It's often something new that nobody's ever asking questions about. It's like, how's the stress in your life? How's the stress with your relationships? um Do you love yourself? Do you see yourself as a worthy, valuable person? And then kind of introducing them to beliefs they have, they know about in beliefs they have, they don't know about. Because again, that's where that misalignment in the internal world comes. So whenever I say misalignment within the internal world, it means there's parts of the internal world that don't agree with other parts of the internal world.
00:06:00
Dr Gabe Roberts
And that creates some kind of conflict that that will manifest to some kind of symptom over time. And so that's where the acceptance comes in. Without a doubt, any person I have that has autoimmune condition or I'll just kind of say my what what I do. I specialize in psychosomatic medicine. So this is the the reversal of physiological illness mystery illnesses of all kind that have at their root cause repressed emotion. So usually the people that i I work with have already seen every kind of doctor whether it's a functional medicine doctor or a chiropractor or naturopathic doctor and they still either have hit a plateau
00:06:47
Dr Gabe Roberts
or they've had improvements, for and then suddenly the improvements were short-lived, the symptoms come back, or they've not had any kind of relief. And so what we do is we go deep into their internal world, their internal mind, their subconscious mind, and find the root seed planting of what is going on, why the manifestation of illness, what's going on to to cause that, why there's not an acceptance of self, and 99% of the time it's somewhere between conception and around five years old that is the that's the time so the reason why conception and five is because those are the most powerful memories we have and our memories we have between zero to five conception and five
00:07:39
Dr Gabe Roberts
become the standard of how we view ourself, how we view the world, how we hold ourself accountable for it what we deserve, if we deserve healing at all, if we deserve to feel good, if we deserve love, if we deserve comfort. All of those things are are viewed through the lens that is basically formed and solidified by around age five, maybe sometimes age six, you know, but usually around age five. And that's where a majority of the problems that people have come from. A woman contacts me, you know, for a divorce. She's heartbroken. She's trying to move on. um She's been, she's been divorced for a year now and just can't seem to, um,
00:08:26
Dr Gabe Roberts
move on can't seem to start over can't seem to you know start dating and we ask her subconscious mind to take you to the seed planting of this and it's somewhere around three years old you know where the where the seed planting was we resolve it there and suddenly the dating life and starting over comes very easy for her so same with health same with illness same with things like malignancy and autoimmune you know they're they're there These are manifestations of initiating wounds that happen to us when we're very young and are oftentimes completely missed by practitioners and completely out of the awareness of the person themselves.
00:09:10
beyondterrain
Yeah, definitely. Well, you don't hear too many doctors asking about, you know, how, how are those first five years of your life? Right. so Um, it's interesting, you know, nowadays it's funny, just the other day I was talking with somebody and you know, they had young children and one of the things that they said was, you you know, they were excusing one of their actions that was you know, not mature. Um, and they said, Oh, well, my child won't remember that. You know, I feel like there's this, we don't have an understanding as a, like a population that, you know, what those first five years, I couldn't agree more that they're the most important, you know, that's, that's when the, the child is so vulnerable. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's unbelievable. And, um, another thing that popped into my mind is
00:10:08
beyondterrain
you know, if you compare human animals, if you could do, if you can do that, if that's meaningful, but, um, if you compare that, you know, animals come out and they're walking right away, you know, so a baby, like it's much more dependent than a small animal, right? So, you know, it's almost like that we have this extension of an incubation period outside of the mother. So that's a really interesting way that, you know, I, I, I earned an interesting thing that I heard, you know, and so, I wonder if you're having thoughts on that.
00:10:42
Dr Gabe Roberts
No, youre that's absolutely true. You you might have heard Gabor Matei talking about that. Is that true?
00:10:48
beyondterrain
Might've been, might've been, yeah, yeah.
00:10:50
Dr Gabe Roberts
Yeah. So Dr. Gabor Matei talks about how we are extremely dependent even after birth on our parents ors or early caregivers for everything. we're So we're very helpless. when When animals come out like a horse, um you know our giraffe other mammals that within minutes they are walking and and seem to kind of be able to take care of themselves where we are extremely helpless and what that helplessness comes with is a biological necessity of connection of need of care of of you could say love okay
00:11:31
Dr Gabe Roberts
And when I say the word love, I want to always define it because love, the word love can hurt people sometimes. okay The word love can hurt people because sometimes when we're born, when we're in a we're when we're in an environment of conception to run five, And we are conceived and born into an environment where love and dis love means distance and criticism and sometimes abuse. um you know I could just say and smack you with my hand and say, I did that because I love you.
00:12:05
Dr Gabe Roberts
Now that person's definition of zero to five is love means physical abuse distance and criticism and That becomes the template and they will seek that out in a partner unwillingly unintentionally unconsciously they'll seek out a partner that had that resonates with distance criticism perhaps physical abuse and let's say somewhere along the line this this adult now decides they want to get their life on track they want a better life they want peace they want harmony they want self-acceptance they want healing right and if you told that person they just need to love them themselves more
00:12:48
Dr Gabe Roberts
What happens? they they They will start sabotaging themselves. I've seen it many times. They start binge drinking, things like that. So if we're going to ever use the word love in this kind of work, it has to mean only see the best in yourself. Accepting you for who you are. knowing you're perfectly fine the way you are, only s seeing the best in you, welcoming you in the presence and fill with joy to have you in my presence. That's basically what love means. And you can feel that verse, just the word love is kind of stoic itself. But yeah, many times people, um they don't understand that
00:13:38
Dr Gabe Roberts
between zero to five. That conception is actually when we're the most absorbent. It's when we're the most absorbent. It's actually when we learn the most. And this certainly was not taught to me in any of my studies in Chiropractic College. Embryology, biochemistry, biology, any of that was not psychology. None of that's taught. um it It came very
00:14:06
Dr Gabe Roberts
Obvious in my work and a few of my mentors had told me that before And and it became very obvious that that was very true that we learned the most at conception Because that's when we're the that's when we're equivalent to a blank hard drive You know, we have some wired instincts and things like that but we're basically we don't we don't know anything other than divine peace love um basically one with God, one with, you know, and how did I can come to this conclusion is because I've studied over 300 near-death experiences and interviewed people that have had experiences where they actually left the physical body momentarily, whether it was a brain infection or, you know, a horse falling on them or something like that. um And they all have similar striking characteristics of what happens when they leave the physical body.
00:15:00
Dr Gabe Roberts
There's a state of bliss, there's a piece of harmony, zero burden. They feel completely accepted like they've never imagined before. And so much to the point where all of these people, whether they were in a hospital or whatever else, all of these people would have much rather stayed there. then come back into the physical body. And when they come back to the physical body, they're they're oftentimes upset because of what they just experienced was so blissful and harmonious and zero burden and suddenly they're sucked right back into the body. So if this is what happens when we leave the physical body, what happens to us when we're incarnated on earth, we start out that way. We start out just knowing peace and zero burden and and one with God
00:15:53
Dr Gabe Roberts
light, harmony, and pure consciousness. That's basically what it is. Pure consciousness everywhere ah everywhere, at any given moment, you know. And then we're conceived and we go from pure consciousness to one single cell. at the moment of conception, but all we still know is is that zero burden, the light, the bliss, the harmony, that's all we still have a perception of, or that's all we still know. And then we have our first taste of humanity while we're in the womb.
00:16:27
Dr Gabe Roberts
And this taste of humanity, because we're a developing cell, and we don't even have a brain yet, but we have a heart that's starting to... The heart's the first thing that starts to develop in us is where this group of cells that starts to grow. But we still accumulate data. Data is still accumulating into us. And that information is from the environment. And whenever we're at that moment of conception, even after being born and being helpless and needing that connection, our entire nervous system, including our brain, is developing in response to the data we receive from the environment.
00:17:09
Dr Gabe Roberts
it shapes the brain, it shapes the circuitry of everything and it shapes the the basically the self-concept of who we are and what we deserve and so whenever somebody has an infant and they say oh she won't remember this or they won't remember this they're still absorbing that data and at the time it it's just muffled data that a that this infant doesn't understand, doesn't know what it is until later on as this as this sum young human starts to develop and learn language capacity and things like that, that data starts to become
00:17:50
Dr Gabe Roberts
the the foundation for this what's called the subconscious mind. The mind of us that's 99.994% below our awareness. It's the most powerful goal achieving agency known to humanity. It cannot accept or it cannot reject anything that goes into it. So it can't judge any decision put into it accepts everything. good or bad, between zero to five. By around six or seven, those perceptions are starting to build a barrier that protects them, called the critical faculty.
00:18:29
Dr Gabe Roberts
And what happens is we protect every perception we have. Whether it's good or whether it's bad, we protect everything that's been that data that's accumulated early on. We begin to protect it later on in life around five, six, seven years old. We we have this barrier that forms around that perception and it very effectively protects it. So, an example of this, just just a real easy topic for people to understand that might be listening and and this might be new to them, is if I were to tell you the grass is blue, the grass is blue, I want you to really think about that and try to believe it for a moment and you'll almost feel your mind closing off because it's protecting a perception that's already there.
00:19:18
Dr Gabe Roberts
Even if you really tried to believe the grass was blue, that that barrier slammed shut. So it protects every perception you have. This is something that, again, that's overlooked in a lot of times in the healing arts, especially with functional medicine and things like that. I will tell people that have depression, that have, you know, depression, anxiety, I'll i'll tell them, I want you to tell yourself you're a worthy, valuable person and see what happens. And when they say it, they just can't believe it anymore, then you can believe the grass is blue.
00:19:53
Dr Gabe Roberts
It's because the earliest perceptions they have that were formed at zero to five don't match them being a worthy, valuable person. So that's what has to shift. That's what has to transform for that person to have health. And I don't care how good they eat. I don't care how remarkable their supplements are or how much sun they get. If they don't feel like they're a worthy, valuable person, they're there are 70 trillion cells of their body are eavesdropping on that message all the time.
00:20:25
Dr Gabe Roberts
And that's what's that's why I say it's misunderstood, it's overlooked, and it's ah it's a tremendous cause of of suffering and everything else. It's these early perceptions we have through what I would call childhood trauma. right so Now, if I were to tell you the grass is green,
00:20:39
beyondterrain
you
00:20:44
Dr Gabe Roberts
Think how that makes see it feel you feel the difference. The grass is green. Why is that? Because that critical faculty barrier opens wide up, the doors open, and that that data I'm giving you of saying the grass is green goes right in. It matches something that's there. It gives you a feeling of security. And suddenly, You believe the grass is greener just a bit more, just a little bit more. You suddenly, it's like deep down, you're like, yeah, I agree with that. The world agrees with that statement and it gives you a bit of security. Well, that's what's called the law of compounding.
00:21:24
Dr Gabe Roberts
And that's why people can do okay for a while despite these things running in their subconscious mind. And then around the age of 30 to 35 to 40 to 45, they've had so many perceptions compound deep inside of there that it starts to gain so much weight that the subconscious mind is a most powerful goal achieving agency known to humanity. bar none its powers are just limitless well beyond our bodies and able to do things achieve things that are we would call miraculous when people have miraculous healings ah suddenly they're fully healed and their tumors are gone and they and they are on a whole there's a whole different person it's because they're working in harmony with that inner mind that inner world a person that can walk on red hot coals 1700 degrees
00:22:18
Dr Gabe Roberts
and the feet completely unharmed. That is working in harmony with that subconscious mind that is a powerful goal achieving agency. Somebody that has around and around a scene where a loved one is suddenly trapped under a vehicle, a car, and they can pick that car up. and pulled our loved one out holding the car up with one hand and later a group of firefighters show up and they can't even move that car four of them can't this has happened before and people would say well it's adrenaline and the muscles are flexing and all that there might be some some degree to that but it's because we're pure consciousness we're unlimited in our ability and whenever we have a perception go into that subconscious mind that can with a very intensive motion by the way
00:23:08
Dr Gabe Roberts
um suddenly that person is no limited by the physical body. they're They're able to do things that may seem outside the norm. They may be able to do things that are that completely beyond what we would call status quo because they're working in harmony with that subconscious mind. So for us to have health, we have to understand this part of ourselves. and We have to understand the most powerful memories we have are zero to five and we also need to understand that
00:23:40
Dr Gabe Roberts
they are not necessarily permanent there's ways to change those things so whatever happened to us happened to us it's over although our mind and body don't record it is over it's actually still going on currently according to our nervous system but those are the things that just because those things happen to us we have the traumatic childhood whatever else um We don't receive those necessities that we that are required, those biological necessities when we're little. It doesn't mean that we're broken and it doesn't mean that we can't heal. It just means that those templates must be changed.
00:24:25
beyondterrain
Yeah, well put. Yeah. You know, here we always say biology follows energy. So, you know, even in the case of the example you gave with the lifting of the car, you know, if there are physiological changes, there are biological changes in the body that's still following that sort of energetical input that came first, right? So if you're looking upstream, truly, you always come to the power of the mind is first. Um, and I think, you know, with every episode and everything that I learned, you know, this, this is what is solidified in my mind.
00:24:55
Dr Gabe Roberts
in time.
00:25:01
beyondterrain
So, um, there's a hundred different ways that I'd i'd want to take this conversation right now. Um, but you know, I'm i'm really curious after ages five, you know, is there, does the vinyl vulnerability, does the, that sort of susceptibility wean off gradually, or is it a more of a strict cutoff? You know, You know, many people will say ages zero to seven and then seven to 12 or 14 and then 14 to 21. They're like these stages and, you know, our development as human beings. Do you attribute anything after age five and structure there?
00:25:44
Dr Gabe Roberts
So zero at the moment of conception is when we're the most absorbent, right? And literally moments after conception, we start accumulating data within the womb. I see it all the time with my patients. We go back to moments in the womb where their anxiety first started, you know where their low self-worth first started. For example,
00:26:14
Dr Gabe Roberts
Many people that I work with that have chronic illness that nothing is working for. They're eating right. They're doing everything correctly. ah They're taking all the right stuff. They're eating the right organic foods and everything else. And yet their body just still isn't responding and healing. And they may have malignancy. They may have autoimmune. A majority of these people, I'm going to say 8 out of 10. When we ask their subconscious mind to take us to the seed planting of what happened, it takes us to a moment in the womb when mom and dad are discussing the possibility of having an abortion. They don't want the child. They they decide, oh man, this was a mistake. we Not right now. Not in this time in my career. We're not ready to handle this baby.
00:27:03
Dr Gabe Roberts
And remember when I said the baby is absorbing that data, they're most absorbent and it becomes a perception. That perception is protected by a critical faculty, a barrier that protects what's there. And if they go through life and the environment as they, let's say the parents decide go ahead and have them and they start to have the child anyway and the child goes through life and it has this early perception that it learned early on and environmental experiences start to add to that. Just like the statement I said, the grass is green. Anything in harmony with this perception, anything on a resonant frequency of the perception of I'm not supposed to be here, I'm not worthy, I'm i'm a mistake, starts to add mass over time.
00:27:49
Dr Gabe Roberts
and around 35 to 45, it's accumulated so much that it reaches critical mass and the subconscious goal achieving agency kicks in and says, ah, we're not supposed to be here. And suddenly every environmental opportunistic it has, it starts to utilize to get rid of the person. It's not something wrong with the person. It's a simple perception operating. The subconscious is trying to achieve a goal. Now, to answer your question, zero to five is when we're the most absorbent. Around five to, so you know, some people say seven. In my experience, there are some times when it's six to seven, but it's mostly five. That's the that's the area I see often. That's the area I teach my my doctors and professionals and I teach this stuff too.
00:28:38
Dr Gabe Roberts
um Around five, we see a conception. We are so absorbent, and then we become less absorbent, and a little less absorbent, and a little less absorbent, and a little less absorbent. And around five, that absorption slows down quite a bit. So what I mean by that is we From conception till five, we are grabbing every kind of subject, topic, idea, everything that's around us, we're grabbing and basically putting together a a puzzle, a jigsaw puzzle. These are like little splotches that start to form and they're on every topic, subject, and idea that we encounter at this moment, from it's from money to what we deserve, if life is threatening to us, if
00:29:25
Dr Gabe Roberts
if politicians are good whatever it might be we're hearing all of this and we're building these perceptions into like a jigsaw puzzle and around five years old that jigsaw puzzle is now complete so imagine a puzzle that's complete and you try to add another piece to it what happens it just kind of slides off it doesn't have anywhere to go So round five, that puzzle's complete. By the age of seven, we've learned half of what we'll know our entire life. By the time we're teenagers, 11, 12, 13 years old, now we've heard
00:30:08
Dr Gabe Roberts
something we've heard some kind of concept of every idea subject topic and we have a critical faculty protecting that and that's why teenagers oftentimes don't agree with parents because they've heard something and they say they they think they're smarter than their parents on many levels and the parents are trying to say look you need to do this and the teenagers like well I don't know if I like that idea It's not that the teenagers are naturally being rebellious. It's that they've heard something on that subject. They've built a perception. They have their own critical faculty, their own protective barrier, guarding that perception of what's already there.
00:30:47
Dr Gabe Roberts
And I have a teenager, so I ah know this all well. And it doesn't mean that he's not listening. It just means, and it doesn't mean that he's implying I'm wrong or he's wrong. But it implies that that's just how the mind operates. That's just how the mind works. And I will get nowhere if I try to beat ideas into him and and parents that have teenagers. will get nowhere if they try to beat ideas into their kids because of that critical faculty. It'd be the equivalent of me trying to convince you that grass is blue.
00:31:20
Dr Gabe Roberts
Right? So, um but to but to answer your question, zero to five is the template time. Absolutely. There's been a lot of studies that show that, and I'm a former Marine, a former combat veteran, so um I know this too well. When a group of soldiers or a group of Marines go into battle, they they go into Iraq or Iran or somewhere like that. and they experienced combat and out of 100 of them, 20 develop PTSD and 80% of them are okay. And then when they look back at the 20 of them that develop PTSD, it wasn't the PTSD from the combat itself, it was PTSD from childhood trauma.
00:32:08
Dr Gabe Roberts
And the conflict during the firefights or the IED exploding, whatever it might be, just added more weight to the perceptions that were already there. And that's been the case with me and and every combat veteran I've ever worked with. That was definitely the case with me. It had nothing to do with what happened in Iraq or Afghanistan. It had to do with what happened to us early on. And those were just relives. It was just a poking of the wound that was already there. so but as we grow into groups we start a responding to our environment a certain way and we start becoming like our peers around us so you know from you know seven to twelve and then twelve to fifteen where we we look around at our peers and we try to match them to be accepted but
00:33:03
Dr Gabe Roberts
That self-image, that jigsaw puzzle from 0 to 5 is already fully solidified, fully fully concrete, okay if you will. Does that answer your question?
00:33:16
beyondterrain
Absolutely. Yeah, no, no, I think we hit it home with that one. That's great. Yeah, that's really interesting. And um something I've been interested in lately, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it is and you sort of alluded it to it there a little bit like oppositional defiance disorder. um You know, I did read a really amazing book recently, and you could comment on it if you'd like. The Body Keeps the Score. um
00:33:46
Dr Gabe Roberts
Yeah, Vestalvanderkop.
00:33:47
beyondterrain
You know, yeah. Yeah. And I thought there was a lot of good, like a lot of good nuggets of wisdom in there. And, um, you know, especially when he started talking about how these like oppositional defiance ODD is not some sort of mental illness. It's a response to childhood trauma, you know? So, um, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
00:34:11
Dr Gabe Roberts
Right. See, we label things mental illness, and we many of our thinking today with our modern medicine and our our you know the things we look at in our health care system and our educational system and the way we do research, the way we are biased towards certain research and whatnot, all stems from 17th century thinking that we're um mechanistic robots that we're basically flesh robots that consciousness is nothing more than the side effect of electrical biochemical reactions going on inside the brain and your your thoughts certainly don't mean anything your emotions certainly don't really do anything at all
00:34:59
Dr Gabe Roberts
And you know why bother? Why bother even trying to do anything because it's all predictable. It's your genetics. It's all you know happening in a predictable manner of cause and effect. And again, what that does is it gives a person an inner perception of why bother trying to change anything. I certainly can't do anything. I don't have any power. My my actions don't mean anything. My thoughts certainly don't mean anything. My emotions certainly don't mean anything and that is complete. That's completely outdated to a newer model of understanding the mind and body which comes from quantum physics and basically it means in 1927 Albert Einstein and a group of 17 other doctors and professor professors
00:35:47
Dr Gabe Roberts
Madame Curie, John Wheeler. These people got together in the Solvay Institute in Brussels and they dissected the atom. They basically looked inside of the atom and they found all atoms that make up everything about us, that make up our entire universe, are nothing more than clouds of energy that their nature's responsiveness, responsiveness to hu two to observing. And so what this means is that this outdated model of matter and mind are separate is completely obsolete that mind and matter are indeed one and the same. So this is kind of
00:36:31
Dr Gabe Roberts
going a little more deeper than what Bessel-Vandercock was discussing in his book. But what it means is whatever is put there first, whatever conception, whatever whatever is learned between zero to five becomes the standard. And whenever ah a child has a certain perception built that's protected by a critical faculty any and and children you know have these jigsaw puzzle pieces fully formed and put together by five, Anything that comes into their environment afterwards that's not a match to that is rejected. And that's why we have this behavioral, it appears to be a behavioral defiance thing going on, but it's not. It's something that the child learned.
00:37:20
Dr Gabe Roberts
and it doesn't match their perception, and they're acting it out in a certain way. And the parents, because they're being conditioned and taught from so-called health experts that are operating off of this mind, they're ah they're operating off this model of of mechanistic cause and effect. They say, oh, child something's wrong with the child. We need to give them a medication. We need to do this or that, not fully even understanding that it's something that they learned that they're acting out. That was certainly the case. I'll just give you that was a certainly the case with me whenever I was a young child Many people thought there was something wrong with me. I was tested many times. I even had electrical stuff hooked to my brain where they would do brain scans and everything and and It turns out hey his brain's just fine his brains just fine, and it was because I had um undergone severe childhood trauma and
00:38:15
Dr Gabe Roberts
So no reason I talked to you about this stuff is because I've lived it and I've, I've went from not only being severely traumatized to having every kind of addiction possible from meth to marijuana as, as, you know, a 20 year old, then going into the Marines, um, trying to get rid of all the trying to get a clean slate. So going there first, you know, ending up in prison and then later on, becoming aware of all this. And I was working as an EMT and a paramedic in the back of the ambulances. And I was like, you know, there's this tremendous conflict going on inside of me. I had no idea what it was. I didn't know how to change it. And so I started exploring healing arts and chiropractic made the most sense to me.
00:39:01
Dr Gabe Roberts
And so I went to chiropractic college, studied all kinds of different energy medicine modalities from from body code to quantum integration to acupuncture. If it had to do with energy and stuff like that, i was I was full into it, studying it, trying to resolve this within myself and also trying to use it on patients that had you know similar problems. And what I found was Even if I was working on all these things I was still treating at the surface level and When I was able to go back and change those early templates those experiences I had is between zero to five It literally transformed me as a person it transformed the capabilities of I could do in life as an adult and also eliminate all the cravings for any kind of addictions I had because all addictions no matter what whether and and we all have some kind of in modern day society today we all have some kind of advice you know
00:40:03
Dr Gabe Roberts
and And even Abraham Lincoln said, a man without vice is a man without virtue. So it's not something that's that's by any means just ah you know just present in our modern society. It's been present since Industrial Revolution. Addictions have been prevalent since Industrial Revolution. Before that, we really didn't have addictions. We didn't have the pain that is that comes with our modern society today. And so whenever I hear people say, well, I had a good child and I wasn't traumatized. I wasn't traumatized.
00:40:39
Dr Gabe Roberts
um I will say that's an anomaly and I will say the only people that are not traumatized are going to be small isolated pack small isolated packs of people that are tribal, aborigines, things like that, where they still live off the land, they're nomadic and they they move, they're hunter-gatherers, they're small they're small isolated groups of unreached tribes where the child at conception is when mother's pregnant, they are fully welcomed. They they celebrate it. So what's that baby picking up? When the baby's born, he's held for the first three years of life by everyone in the village. to you know They say it takes a village to raise a child. Well, the uncle, the neighbor, the brothers, everyone is holding that child and welcoming it. It doesn't even touch the ground for the first three years of life.
00:41:35
Dr Gabe Roberts
Remember what we talked about child children being infants being very helpless, you know, and Whenever babies respond to the environment and they're being held by welcoming adults, that impacts the brain so much to where when they grow into a young teenager and adult, their brain is not only fully alert and focused, but it's also able to produce very powerful tranquilizing hormones where they're grounded, they are they feel safe, and that's what happens to them as ah an adult.
00:42:10
Dr Gabe Roberts
So when somebody i I don't know how many times I have somebody that contacts me and they have Chronic conditions and they say I have my childhood. i I know you reverse childhood trauma gave I i was never traumatized and it was come to find out you know They were left in a room alone or they were you know left on a blanket too long or something they you know And and it's not mom's fault. I'm not blaming any parents for this. This is the way our society is conditioned we are conditioned to look at security as a blanket and a bottle and not necessarily being held continuously continuously i even see people in my family that if if if um i i see people in my family today that don't get this concept and they have critical faculties it's not like i can sit there and tell them anything it's going to be rejected just like if i said the grass is blue
00:43:06
Dr Gabe Roberts
Right? The critical faculty protects everything that's there. But even if the perception is completely wrong, and I have people in my family that, gosh, they just kind of go, man, she holds her child so much, holds her child so much, and they just don't get it. You know? Our parenting instincts, for the most part, are gone. as As a modern society today, our parenting instincts are gone. And we might do our best for our kids and we might love our children. But the necessity that that child has, it's a biological necessity of being cared for, of being nurtured, of being loved, is not necessarily met just because the parent loves them. So trauma can happen to us a couple of different ways. It can happen when good things were supposed to happen and didn't happen.
00:44:04
Dr Gabe Roberts
And it can also happen when bad things happen to us. So it doesn't necessarily mean we have to have battlefields and and addicted parents and physical abuse and all these other things to be traumatized. Just us not having the needs met, not being, like Bessel van der Kock says this, for us not being accepted for who we are, not being seen for who we are, not heard for who we are, is traumatizing to the child. And I'll admit, I've done all that to my kids. you know I learned this stuff too little too late. That doesn't mean that I'm not fully connected and have great relationships with them. It just means that even though I'm an expert in this field, I too have done the status quo with my kids. I'm making up for it. um Because no matter what, for any parent that might be listening to this and and maybe even horrified at what I'm saying,
00:45:04
Dr Gabe Roberts
your child always needs connection and they will get it whether it's with a social media device whether it's with peers whether it's whatever they will always need that connection so you have that ace up your sleeve that doesn't mean you force it that doesn't mean you go tell them okay you're gonna connect with me here's what we're gonna do that means you have to kind of match where they're at match where they're at and they will ultimately deep inside of them, they want connection and they want connection with parents. You know, so you always have that ace up your sleeve. And then that's what I'm, that's what I'm working on with, with my own kids. They want to be, what they want to be, what I mean by connection is they want to be welcomed. They want you to, they don't want to hear words. They want to feel your feelings. They want to feel welcomed in your presence.
00:46:00
Dr Gabe Roberts
They want you to, they want to feel that that you're happy to have them there. And for any, for any parent of any age, whether it's teenagers, whether it's they got new babies, whatever it is, the best thing you can do for your children is let them know that you are thrilled to have them in your life and they are always welcome in your life. And if, if at first they don't know what to do with that, it's just know that they have a perception that doesn't match it, but that doesn't mean you can't build a new perception. That doesn't mean you can't plant that seed and start to nurture that seed and have them always be welcome in your presence, only sing the best in them and be filled with joy to have them in your presence. And that's how you get that connection back.
00:46:44
Dr Gabe Roberts
know I'm not a counselor and all this stuff, but I'm i'm just somebody who understands the mind model. and I understand how trauma really impacts us, how it leads to the development of chronic illnesses and autoimmune and all these other things. and Whenever a child has a connection with their parents and they feel welcomed, that is one of the most nurturing things that can happen that can take place for them. so
00:47:13
Dr Gabe Roberts
Hope that makes sense.
00:47:13
beyondterrain
powerful. Amazing. Um, yeah, I mean, once again, where do I take it? You know, after something so beautiful as that, um, maybe we can shift into talking a little bit about the solution. And I think you're alluding to it a little bit there, you know, because there's no doubt that there are people who've undergone severe traumatic experiences. Uh, you know, just sort of the way that our society is structured now, you know, it's not family unit oriented or community oriented in any matter. So, um, maybe, you know, as, as approaching somebody like for a practitioner, you know, or even if you're sort of working through it yourself, you know, is it, is the starting point that, that connection and acceptance and that little
00:48:12
beyondterrain
love, that joy, and that um you know feeling wanted. and and is that this Is that the starting point? Is that how you sort of rebuild the puzzle? Because I love that analogy. you know like how Do you got to take a piece out of the puzzle and put a new piece back in? How do you work that?
00:48:32
Dr Gabe Roberts
Well, you're not likely gonna be able to take a piece out and put a piece back in on your own because of that critical faculty protecting it, right?
00:48:43
Dr Gabe Roberts
um One of the, some of the best things you can start to do is is catch yourself criticizing yourself at all and and just stop criticizing yourself on anything. Learn to be okay with who you are or where you're at. learn to do that learn to be okay with where you're at and stop all criticisms of yourself and stop all criticisms of other people okay uh that that's a good start there the second thing is whenever i talked earlier about
00:49:20
Dr Gabe Roberts
this older 17th century model that that governs all of our so-called science today and our healthcare system. And it certainly influences things like functional medicine and naturopathic medicine and chiropractic and all of that ah is this idea that we're flesh robots, that everything operates, the universe operates by mechanical, you know, mechanical behaviors. And in this approach, we don't look at things like emotions having much power.
00:49:55
Dr Gabe Roberts
I'm going to tell you that emotions are very powerful. Emotions, humans are emotional creatures and emotions can very quickly build and they can very quickly destroy. So if a person wants some kind of understanding how to start, the first thing you want to do is every concept, every idea, everything you hear. from now on, everything. And we we trance, we go in and out of memories 15 to 50 times an hour. So as humans, 15 to 50 times an hour, our mind takes a trip. You can't even help it, it just does it. People listening to this for an hour, I guarantee you you didn't hear everything because your mind just kind of takes trips is what we do. Become aware of this and become aware that you can control what you become emotionally involved in.
00:50:54
Dr Gabe Roberts
or have intense feelings towards. And the first thing you're, if a person has the determination, they make a decision, I'm not living like this anymore. Because the best doctor is the person themselves, not the doctor. The doctor can give guidance and the name itself means, the name doctor itself means teacher, so they can teach you things, right? That's what the whole concept comes from. If a doctor is just saying, here's this external stuff, take pills, take these supplements, you need this, you need that, um and not working on the inside, know that the know that that internal world's getting overlooked, okay?
00:51:35
Dr Gabe Roberts
But if a person makes up a decision that they're not living like this anymore, that something has to change, they want a different result. They look at the result in their life and they say, okay, I'm not happy with this result. this result First thing, understand it's not some predictable thing that just came and happened to you. You're not a victim of just what happened. That you, in some way, shape or form, created this because of what's going on internally within you. So you have to go from blaming to kind of taking responsibility with that.
00:52:10
Dr Gabe Roberts
And when you do that, you get your power back. It doesn't mean what happens your fault. It just means you're you're not aware of what you're not aware of. And you can't change anything if you don't know what the problem is. And if you deny that problem, if you deny that that problem's not there and I'm fine and everything's good and you deny it, then then you're not going to be able to address what needs to be addressed because it's a problem that's denied. How can you address something when that problem is not there? right So you what you do is you screen your thoughts, you screen the things around you, you screen the people. Maybe it's an ex-wife or a boss or someone, you know a mother-in-law, whoever it might be.
00:52:56
Dr Gabe Roberts
that typically hits your buttons and gets you emotionally involved in negative ideas. Start there and start to not allow yourself to get emotionally involved in any idea taking you in a direction other than where you want to go because I can guarantee you this if a person is not happy with the results in their life They're not happy with their health. They're not happy with their material wealth. They're not happy with their happiness, their levels of mood. They are always emotionally involved in some kind of negative idea, whether it's politics, whether it's a neighbor, whether it's, you know, whatever the decision they made a year ago, that was a poor decision, whatever it is, they have feelings towards it. And the problem is,
00:53:43
Dr Gabe Roberts
with this. and Remember, I mentioned quantum physics model earlier. This model of mind and matter are the same. What happens is your mind mind and matter are one and the same. They're not separate. So, whenever if you look at the word emotion, emotion means energy and motion. And everything in our known universe is through is formed through waveform information, vibrations. It's waveform information, far too complicated far too complex for our conscious mind to even understand. And we are always interacting with this world in ways that or go beyond what we're capable of even thinking, what we're even but we're even
00:54:34
Dr Gabe Roberts
capable of understanding what we can do. We're interacting with this world in a vast way. I'll just, let me give you an example that's real easy that lets you just see how important this is. Have you ever had this sensation of being stared at?
00:54:51
beyondterrain
oh yeah
00:54:51
Dr Gabe Roberts
Yeah, simple.
00:54:52
beyondterrain
yeah
00:54:53
Dr Gabe Roberts
So here's the thing, somebody's staring at you, you've sensed that and you're like, wow, okay. You sense and you see somebody looking at you. That is just one example of how someone's mind is not confined to the inside of their body, their brain. It's actually extending out, interacting with another part of the world and that part of the world happened to be you and you felt it.
00:55:15
beyondterrain
Oh yeah.
00:55:16
Dr Gabe Roberts
Well, everything around us is constantly interacting with everything else.
00:55:17
beyondterrain
Yeah.
00:55:21
Dr Gabe Roberts
everything is doing the same thing. That's why dogs are always happy to see you. that's why you know That's why somebody nearby you, a family member, can be in a bad mood and you sense it. Now, the old model of thinking would dismiss that. I love asking doctors and PhDs, have you ever had the sensation of being stared at? Yeah. And I said, hey, explain it. And they go, you can't. And I say, yes, you can. your your mind is not Your mind has an energy to it similar to scalar waves that extend past your pasture body with every thought you have, every feeling you have extends a wave form information out and it interacts with everything around it. People have a tourist field, you can go to a human tourist tourist field and you'll see this field around the human body eight to ten feet.
00:56:16
Dr Gabe Roberts
and diameter that acts like a membrane that's connected to your proprioceptive nervous system. So if somebody stares at you they're sending out a waveform information that interacts with that membrane and you sense it in your proprioceptive nervous system. So the point is you're constantly interacting with the world around you. And if you want to change the results in your life, you have to be aware of what you're getting emotionally involved in. Because the minute you get intense feelings towards something negative, you start vibrating in residence to that. And you're only going to draw in more of that negative. You're only going to shift your mind to where it only pays attention to things in harmony with that negative. So you can want to change things.
00:57:03
Dr Gabe Roberts
You can say, okay, I want to change my life. I want to change this. I don't like how this has turned out. I don't like that I keep dating the same person with a different face or whatever else it is. i don't i'm not I'm not healing these illnesses. you know I'm taking all this stuff and it's just reoccurring. The first thing is you have to watch what you're developing intense feelings towards. And only you have control of that. Doctors can do things for you. They can give you advice. They can give you knowledge. They can give you recommendations. But if you're leaving their office and you're emotionally involved in negative ideas, I promise you you're wasting your time and efforts.
00:57:40
Dr Gabe Roberts
And that's where a lot of my work comes in is going in and healing those wounds to where the person easily has no emotional involvement with whatever that is. Like I mentioned earlier, I said a woman contacts me divorced. We take her back to three years old. I have her think about her ex-husband, you know, and she doesn't bother her at all anymore and she's flabbergasted. So, but for a person to do this on their own, Okay. Watch what you become emotionally involved in.
00:58:12
Dr Gabe Roberts
Okay. So that's really important.
00:58:14
beyondterrain
Yeah, amazing. I was thinking of Rupert Sheldrake's work there a little bit when you were talking about the, he stared at that morgue for resident stuff is fascinating.
00:58:23
Dr Gabe Roberts
Yeah, that's
00:58:27
beyondterrain
He was one of the first people that I was studying when I sort of had my own little paradigm shift. So I owe a lot.
00:58:33
Dr Gabe Roberts
Absolutely. I mean, he's he's he's one of my he's one of my favorite proxy mentors because of this idea about the mind beyond the brain. and And when I mentioned that's why your dogs are always happy to see you. I'm glad to hear that you brought up Rupert Schilder. So I know that we're we're on the same page. Your dogs can sense when you're coming home with no evidence, with no with no without seeing you, without hearing you, without even being in the time frame that you know you always come home. Your dogs can sense when you're coming home because of the morphic field, the connection, the inner connection between you and your pet. okay Another one is Cleve Baxter, his ability to
00:59:18
Dr Gabe Roberts
influence plant physiology by staring at it, and with the intent of burning a leaf, suddenly it made the plant physiology change to where it it showed a dis a yeah radical change on its polygraph machine. So, thoughts extend beyond our body. they extend They interact with our pets, they interact with plants around us, they interact with every atom there is, because remember what I said an atom is, according to the the scientists at Brussels. It's empty creative space, amenable to suggestion. That means it's nature's responsiveness and it works in a deductive manner, positive or negative. It gives you whatever you give it. It reflects whatever you give to it. So if you are if you are emotionally involved in negative ideas,
01:00:08
Dr Gabe Roberts
You know, you're going to always get that back. And the the substance of our heart, that Taurus feel comes from our heart. The language of our heart through what we feel in our body interacts with the matter of the universe. And it literally can draw in things that are in harmony with that, whether they're good or whether they're whether they're not so good. So.
01:00:34
beyondterrain
Yeah. Amazing. You know, some of the, so some of the interventions that you use, you know, I saw on your website, was it hypnotherapy? You're you're really connecting with the subconscious, right? And the psychosomatic approach, you know, you're really looking at, at sort of talking directly with that subconscious mind in a way. You know, I wonder if you could speak to that a little bit here. I know we've got a few minutes left.
01:00:59
Dr Gabe Roberts
Right. So, uh, no, I don't, even though I've been trained as a master level hypnotherapist, um, I don't use hypnosis. Um, but any, any level of work that's going to change, that's going to result in change has one thing in common and that's altered states of consciousness, right?
01:01:09
beyondterrain
Yeah.
01:01:17
Dr Gabe Roberts
Um, I've been trained in, uh, EMI. which is EMDR's predecessor, okay? So, it's it's the it's the work that came before EMDR. Eye movement integration, hypnosis, neuro-logistic programming, psych-K, emotional freedom technique, quantum integration level three, best level three, all these different types of body code, emotional code, I've used them all. I've trained in all those and used them all. What I found is these approaches don't address the holographic imprint.
01:01:50
Dr Gabe Roberts
So whenever we get wounded between zero to five, ah these leave traumatic imprints that have two forms. um Energetically, they're light. biochemistry, they're neuropeptides that are not that are not processed. Neuropeptides are the molecules of emotion that when we don't express certain emotions, they start to build up and accumulate in predictable areas in the body. People that have arthritis are usually very critical of themselves. People that have any kind of malignancy have a lot of repressed anger. People that have breast cancer are ones that um
01:02:31
Dr Gabe Roberts
have an automatic compulsive nature to respond to the emotions of people around them while ignoring their own. hey People that have MS and ALS don't want help from others. They want to be very, very, they want to do everything themselves. They don't want to rely on anyone else and they're the nicest, nicest people ever. but they will not they have a very strict obligation to duty. So these things are often predictable to some extent, but I never i never put people in categories because they're so individual that there's always exceptions. There's always exceptions, okay? Well, whenever we have these holographic wounds inside of us that happen from trauma,
01:03:19
Dr Gabe Roberts
You have to address the entire holographic imprint. Otherwise, otherwise the work you do will be short lived. And I've seen that with all of those mo those techniques. I've seen them not work. I've seen people that do MDR and they get relief temporarily and the things come back. the the triggers come back, the the pain comes back. Same with hypnosis, same with emotional freedom technique. So what my work is addressing is the holographic imprints at the seed planting. So even though the difference between what I do and and regressive hypnosis is hypnosis, regressive hypnosis, not not suggestive hypnosis, there's two types.
01:04:00
Dr Gabe Roberts
Suggestive hypnosis is where you get into a light trance and they give you suggestions that are, you know, you find it real easy to relax. You find it real easy to to choose healthy foods over, you know, over other not so healthy foods, right? And they're talking to your subconscious mind. They they bypass the critical faculty. They are giving you suggestions. And the problem is if they're giving you suggestions and there's a holographic imprint in there, It's only a matter of time before that thing resurfaces and you find yourself going for the junk food again, right? So regressive hypnosis is going back to the seed planting, which part of that is used in the work I do.
01:04:39
Dr Gabe Roberts
um However, hypnosis bypasses the critical faculty to go into the subconscious mind and talk to it. It opens that, it bypasses that barrier where the holographic techniques I use use the conscious mind It uses the critical faculty and it uses the subconscious altogether. So it's using all parts of the mind, not just setting one aside and talking to one part. We're using all three parts, talking to the changes is deeper. ah Additionally, we're addressing all the ho holographic fragments as well. When we do this work,
01:05:19
Dr Gabe Roberts
My clients describe the holograms to them. Whenever I start doing this, they're literally, all I'm doing is asking questions and they're giving me feedback on this holographic imprint. When we're finished, that holographic imprint is gone and the feelings are gone and therefore the emotional charge is gone and the behaviorals related to that and around that are suddenly gone. So it's it's the deepest, most powerful change work that I've ever explored. And i so and I'm always asking people to do stuff, change work.
01:05:52
Dr Gabe Roberts
um If you can show me something that removes self-mutilation as easily as the work I'm doing right now, from that removes self-mutilation from the subconscious mind and installs health, let me know and I'll drop what I'm doing and and become a student of yours. I'm always saying that. The offer is always on the table. I still don't i still hear crickets. um You know, ah most of the time people that have done change work their whole life and experience what I do, they usually become students of my university. They're immediately like, oh man, I got to do this, I got to do this. So it's it's much more detailed, much more in depth than the EMDR that Bessel van der Kock was discussing and and the body keeps the score. I'm not saying these modalities are not helpful.
01:06:41
Dr Gabe Roberts
I'm saying that oftentimes they are temporary. They're temporary relief because they're not addressing the entire holographic imprint enough. So.
01:06:54
Dr Gabe Roberts
for people that are For people that are wanting more, I just released a book ah just released a book um few months ago and it's called From Pain to Purpose, a complete guide on how to heal PTSD.
01:06:55
beyondterrain
Amazing.
01:06:59
beyondterrain
yeah
01:07:10
Dr Gabe Roberts
<unk> Dr. Gabe Roberts, that's that's that's me. i would You can find it at thesubconscioushealer.com. TheSubconsciousHealer.com is my website. Order it off Amazon. If you order it off of Amazon, you if you go through our website and order it, you'll get a code that gives you video access to show you how to do the techniques in the book as well. So it introduces you into these holographic concepts and will give you ways of start clearing these imprints out.
01:07:42
Dr Gabe Roberts
In a very simple way very very easy practical ways and and the feedback I'm getting from this book people are calling it a masterpiece or they're a thing that they're comparing it to they're They're comparing it to some of my mentors, which I'm very humble and proud about, like Bessel Van Der Kock and Gabor Mate. But what's different is my book is written in lay terms, so it's really easy for a person to understand, easy for people to understand what we're kind of discussing today about the trauma mechanism and and how the subconscious mind and and
01:08:17
Dr Gabe Roberts
keeps that and and how it encodes trauma and how it how starts to come out into a person's manifestation and ultimately how to start changing that. I give some really powerful techniques that are extremely practical for shifting these perceptions very quick as well as free video access. By the book you get the videos for free as well. So
01:08:42
Dr Gabe Roberts
that's That's a real easy approach for people that are that are wanting some change and wanting it very quickly.
01:08:51
beyondterrain
Y'all be picking that thing up. I'm sure right after i we're done here. So, um, that's amazing. Yeah. And I really appreciate all, all the amazing words that you were sharing today. And so I just want to ask if you have any final thoughts, anything that you want to share on our discussion today, anything that you might've missed or that you want to add or final message for the, for the audience.
01:09:14
Dr Gabe Roberts
Oh, there's always stuff that that's missed. you know we win we We're always students, and I once heard of an educated man is knowing enough to know that he doesn't know anything, right? um But I would say the best thing is is to really start watching what you're emotionally involved in. I mean that that sounds so cliche, but if you can just start to ask yourself when something comes up that normally would upset you, ask yourself this question. Give yourself, love yourself enough to ask this question.
01:09:51
Dr Gabe Roberts
Is this worth getting emotionally involved in? And you'll quickly find no and then shift your thoughts to something else. And it may take time. It may feel completely foreign, but that was the that was the driving step that took my life into a radical direction because I've been at rock bottom before. My my childhood traumas have been something that spilled over and impacted all areas of my life. And once I started understanding that my inner world was actually creating my outer world, I thought, OK, what do I got to do to change this inner world? And nobody changes it overnight. You can do some really fast changes with my book and reading the book and understanding it. But nobody changes overnight. It takes time. It takes time, patience, and relentless determination.
01:10:51
Dr Gabe Roberts
Okay, relentless determination. But once you start to understand that your internal world creates your outer world and you start controlling what you get emotionally involved in because you do have control of that to a certain extent, your life can start to radically change in a very short period of time. Whenever I said you have control over it to a certain extent, there is a term called response flexibility, and that means when something happens to us, there's a pause we have on deciding which way we throw our weight into the circumstance to ebb and flow, how we react versus respond to something, right?
01:11:31
Dr Gabe Roberts
Those things are often taken from us when we're traumatized. That response flexibility is something that is taken where something occurs, it triggers a holographic imprint, we have a body feeling, suddenly we have an emotion come up like road rage or whatever else it is and we didn't even have a chance to respond to just happen so quick, right? um When you start to use some of the techniques in my book, you'll get that responsive flexibility back very quickly, even if you don't believe the process. You don't have to believe anything about it. Some feedback I got from a ah college professor I knew long ago, who's reading my book, said that she gave an example of this. And I don't even talk to her. She just read my book, and I knew it from years ago.
01:12:22
Dr Gabe Roberts
She said there was a limb that from the neighbor's yard into her yard. And it was it was the neighbor's limb hanging over her fence. And one day she comes out and that limb is cut down and it's in her yard. And she immediately felt anger. And she went in and sat down, went to her safe place, did what's called a holographic deletion. very simple, very, it becomes a nuclear technique once you start getting accustomed to it. And then she goes, I want to test this out. She did a deletion. She walked back out in her yard and she stared at that limb and the anger was just completely gone. Like she could not bring it up at all. And that was a simple technique. She learned from a book, took her about 30 seconds to do that. And suddenly her emotional, her emotional involvement in something was gone. And remember how important that is because of
01:13:13
Dr Gabe Roberts
concepts like morphic resonance, concepts like Rupert Sheldirk has brought to us that, hey, your mind and matter are one and the same. You're literally connected to the outside world in such a remarkable way. Start on the inside. Start on the inside. work on that, change what you get emotionally involved with, stay emotionally involved in good ideas. Don't get emotionally involved in anything taking the wrong direction. And that is really the fundamental key to start transforming your life. Period.
01:13:48
beyondterrain
Amazing. Wow. And how can a listener support you and learn more from you? You mentioned some great books. That's not the only book you wrote, of course. You have some great courses as well. Any social medias, websites, things like that. Now's the time to bring that up, too.
01:14:04
Dr Gabe Roberts
Yeah, so our email is elevate your and this is just a great way to get some resources from us. Elevate your field. Elevate your field at pm.me and that's pm is in paul mary.me is in mike echo. So elevate your field all written out.
01:14:29
Dr Gabe Roberts
TheSubconsciousHealer.com is our website and probably the easiest way to get those are those two ways. And again, just the book is called From Pain to Purpose. so But it's it's a great book and I'm not just saying that egotistically. it's couple of years with a work making it into late terms, understanding what trauma is and how to start clearing it out. And I'm probably about a hundred pages into my next book right now, which is going into even more details. So.
01:15:05
beyondterrain
Awesome. Well, this has been the most phenomenal episode. Uh, I've certainly learned a lot and I have a lot to look into now. A lot of good reading material that I'll be ah getting those deep into. So listen, I, Dr. Roberts, I appreciate your time so very much. I appreciate everything that you shared today. Thanks for coming on again.
01:15:24
Dr Gabe Roberts
Hey, thanks for having me today. It was a real pleasure and and I really appreciate the opportunity.
01:15:30
beyondterrain
Always. Yeah. I want to thank you all for listening. You should all know that this is not medical advice or psychotherapeutic advice or any sort of you know advice in general. This is for your general informational purposes only. ah But also remember that we're all responsible, sovereign beings, capable of thinking, criticizing, and understanding absolutely anything. We, the people in the greater forces are together, self healers, self-governable, self teachers, and so much more. Please reach out if you have any questions, criticism, comments, concerns, whatever it may be in order to find me on Instagram there at this point, at least you should by now. Links are all in the bio. and
01:16:02
beyondterrain
Dr. Roberts links will be down there too. So if you want more, listen, I really appreciate y'all taking the time for listening today. And so if you found it informative in any way, please like, share, comment, subscribe, follow, whatever you got to do on the medium you're listening to, that would be fantastic. Much appreciated. Sharing is always the best way. We want to get this word out and and reach more people. That's sort of the main goal. So that's the best way to support. I just remember there's two types of people in the world. Those believe they can, those believe they can't, and they are both correct. Alright guys, thanks for listening. Take care.