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Dr. Amandha Vollmer on Mind-Body Connection, Healing, Best Interventions, and More!
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This week, we are honored to have Dr. Amanda Vollmer on the podcast! Dr. Vollmer is a brilliant mind in the terrain movement, and we had a phenomenal discussion about health and healing.
Our conversation explored masculine vs. feminine health—how each manifests, their stages, and the unique dynamics involved.
We also delved into the profound connection between the mind and body, a topic that invites deep exploration. We eventually tied this concept to the relationship between trauma and disease.
Additionally, we discussed the use of interventions, including the delicate balance between what is natural and what might be considered unnatural. Dr. Vollmer shared her insights on several interventions and modalities she has studied over the years. She is an absolute fountain of knowledge!
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Introduction and Podcast Promotion
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Beyond Terrain podcast. I'm your host, Leo Dalton. If you're new around here, consider following on the show, maybe subscribing if you're on YouTube. And if you like the show, leave us a review, a comment, a rating. Those things go a long way to help us, uh, help us grow, help support the show. Obviously sharing is the best way to get this message and, uh, what we do here around. So, uh, make sure to share. It would all be really appreciated.
Meet Dr. Amanda Folmer
00:00:29
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We have a fantastic guest today.
00:00:31
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Dr. Amanda Folmer. I've, you know, encountered her work quite a while now at this point, I guess, in my perspective, probably like four years ago. And, um you know, always been a really brilliant voice and um really helpful in my journey. Again, you know, it's, it's just, ah it's just amazing how many people are speaking up now who have, I think, a ah healthy perspective. um We live in a great great time in my opinion, where, you know, especially in the train camp that, you know, there's a lot of people from this framework. Whereas, you know, when you look back and you study the history, there was only like one or two people at a time, maybe some people in the background or underground and stuff. But now we have so many amazing voices. So I'm so looking forward to this conversation. Dr. Vollmer, thank you so much for coming on today. Thanks, Liev. Thanks for having me. Certainly.
What is Health?
00:01:23
Speaker
So my first question to all my guests is to get a little definition of health. What is health? What does it mean to you? How does it manifest? What does it look like? You can take it in any direction that you'd like. So I'll give you the floor. Well, I would say health is balance in your terrain. And that's as simple as I could probably put it. But ultimately, um it's a dynamic dance, health.
00:01:51
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And we can look at this from multiple angles as far as what someone decides health is for them, right? So there is some subjective aspect. Like I know a lot of people, they think they're healthy.
00:02:08
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They'll say, they often will say, oh, I eat very well, you know, my diet is wonderful. And ah however, when we then look at the diet, I would remark, well, this wouldn't be the best thing to eat and, you know, and so forth. So but that's their perspective that they're healthy. Then as awareness comes and you realize, oh, those symptoms that I think or that fatigue I've had or things that I've experienced,
00:02:34
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is not normal and so the definition in one's mind can change just from that. So there so that aside, um really it's ah it's balanced mind body spirit is one, this is all one containment and It can be imbalanced in any of those and throw off the terrain and then you you will exhibit Symptoms whether it's overt or covert.
Health Challenges and Personal Growth
00:02:59
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There's still symptoms of that imbalance that's also part of I see it as like the bigger spiritual picture because if everything was perfect and nothing was ever wrong and Why would we even do this game here? Why would we?
00:03:17
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go through what we go through, all the suffering, all the trouble, all the lessons. like Why would it be so? and I feel like we we create challenges in our lives and sometimes they're health-based challenges in order to you know lose something to find it and gain preciousness. or um you know like My experience ah for the wounded healer path is to experience all these kinds of conditions. And then I have empathy, compassion and knowledge that I can bring to clients and patients and people who are experiencing the same sorts of things that I went through. And that informs me and helps me become better at what I'm here to do at my path and my goal. So when I have imbalances, I'm looking at them for information. You know, what is happening in my life that this has happened, this symptoms are here and what's it trying to teach me and show me.
00:04:10
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Is it trying to tell me I'm deficient in something? Is it trying to tell me I'm toxic in some way? Or is it trying to guide me? and Because I've been unaware of some aspect of myself and how to integrate that and then continue the expansion um to the next level, which never seems to end. So there it is. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. I mean, you know, you mentioned some really great points there too, like,
00:04:33
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We're all so motivated as well in some way to improve and become better and even learn from the lessons. so I think you bring up a great point there, um especially with sort of this higher journey that everyone's on as well and and how it ties into to health too, right? but We have very physical challenges at times, but um yeah, sometimes, yeah, you need to, you don't know what you have until you lose it and hopefully you regain it, right? And hopefully you regain it and stronger, better, you know, more consistent,
00:05:02
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ways, right? So beautiful, a great way to start the conversation off there. I've not asked this question before, but i'm I'm really interested to hear your perspective on it.
Gender Differences in Health Approaches
00:05:10
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Um, you know, there's this beautiful duality that exists in nature with the masculine and the feminine approaching that health wise. Do you see that there's a difference there, right? So working with, uh, like men versus women, is there like a difference in the approach and the way that, you know, it even manifests in that respect. So just love to hear your thoughts on that.
00:05:30
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who um Yeah, interesting question. I mean, I tend to attract like the demographic I tend to attract um are those over 50 or between, you know, 40 and 60 that are people are trying to um Help themselves, you know, they've been through the ringer as far as the healthcare system goes and they're um not getting their answers. And so, but I tend to, um I tend to ah see a lot more females and males but when I when the men do come.
00:06:02
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they're very, it's interesting because um they're very linear in the way that they often are, you know, either trained to think or naturally think. So I actually find it a little bit easier to work with the men because um basically you just point and like do that and they're like, okay, and then they do that, you know, that kind of thing. But the, the like,
00:06:24
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involvement with women, it's very like it's very in enigmatic and can go into like deep places. And the really tough questions can be asked about okay, take it next level, next level, like next level. um So it tends to be more of like a dance with women, as opposed to the men who' just like, Oh, yeah, get up in the morning, do a coffee and okay, I'll do that, you know, kind of thing.
00:06:48
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um Which is, it's kind of just an interesting approach that I've noticed it's not, it's not 100% across the board but um the men that I've worked with Yeah, it's really, they're very like just tell me what to do and I'll do it kind of thing and the women.
00:07:04
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are like why am I doing it and um what about the nuances of why I'm doing it and you know bigger questions tend to happen there and and the mails will go like later will maybe ask those deeper questions or do some really cool research or something like that but I mean of course I'm generalizing but um And then in medicine, of course, there are different highlighted needs but for men's health and women's health. I mean, um I'm in menopause now. That's a really huge transitory space where you don't know what's going on. Your like brain is literally metamorphizing.
00:07:41
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do like Not even kidding it like shuts off parts of the brain shut off and kind of melt down back into their core materials and then remake themselves like so memories and Aspects of the brain that are no longer required for baby making or mating go away and so you actually unhook parts of your electrical system for a while and then it hooks back up hopefully later and So you can think and function again. And that's very different than like how a male goes through their andropause you know ah situation and the different risk factors and um things that become highlighted in one's healthcare are going to be um slightly different. Tends to be more prostate health in men um and ah you know getting up in the night to urinate is common for both parties, but tends to be a little bit more pronounced in the males because of the prostate.
00:08:31
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And, um you know, the belly and men leading to higher risk of heart attack, like just the hip to race waist ratio can dictate, you know, how at risk you are for having a heart attack because the aorta gets pulled by the belly, gets pulled down and that puts a physical strain on the heart. So that's another, you know, one that comes up a lot ah more in ah men's health than women's health. ah Again, it's across the board. but Those are like the dominant features.
00:09:02
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um Yeah, so there's definitely ah differences. There's definitely important differences. the But at the same time, when you're coming into a health project, there are major things you can do where you it doesn't matter if you're an elephant, you could do them, you know like um like cleansing practices, ah like not eating poisons.
00:09:25
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um like not injecting poisons into your body, you know, um like making different choices when you are shopping for even clothing. Like a lot of people don't know that wearing polyester can decrease sperm count and testosterone levels in males, right? And in females, it hasn't also has an endocrine effect, a negative one. Like these are things that everybody can you know make some changes in and and begin their process toward health and then ah get more specific as time goes on.
00:09:55
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i'll answer Yeah. Yeah. The clothing one is a big one and it's tough. It's tough, right? Because the, it's, it's 90% of clothing now is all polyester and it's so estrogenic, right? It's, it's just plastic. It's wearable plastic. There's no way around it really. And, um, yeah, it's far too common. Um, so many little things like that too. And I just remember an earlier when you were saying talking about health, right? Like.
00:10:22
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It goes beyond diet, right? Someone might say, well, I eat a really good diet, but you know, they're surrounded by, you know, plastic constantly, all they wear is plastic or, you know, they're wearing, you know, their cosmetics and, um you know, dishwasher. ah So stuff like all of this stuff can really have profound effects, right? So it's even greater than just looking at the diet, right? You have to kind of look at a much bigger picture.
00:10:49
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um And then we're only speaking kind of about the physical level here too, right? We're talking about the material, chemical stuff like that, right? So it can go much deeper than that. At the same time, I'm sure that we could probably dive into a large conversation around that topic. Absolutely. Um, so when it comes to, you know, healing the mind, I did want to hear, um, your thoughts on, you know, the mental body, right?
Connecting Mental and Physical Healing
00:11:16
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Because I feel like there's,
00:11:18
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feel like when it comes to physical, you know, the chemicals, stuff like this, it's it is more straightforward, right? It's like, avoid toxicities. And, you know, avoid deficiencies, right? So nourish yourself properly, I guess, at the most basic level. And then I guess, going up to like the emotional mental plane, I found it, you know, to be far more complex, especially when it comes to healing, you know, the mental body, because our minds put up these very interesting blocks and it can occur and for the physical as well. But you know, when you're trying to look at your life and you know, some people can absolutely just blur out memories completely and forget about them. Right. And, um, the symptomology of the mind is, is really, really interesting too, just to see what, what can happen. Um, you know, so I'm really curious about, uh, how you even approach,
00:12:15
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healing from the mental plane, right? And maybe what connection this has to to our physical body as well, because we've talked about that a little bit and um trying to clear up sort of what that means, what this emotional, physical connection means. So I kind of am steering you in a few directions here, maybe we can start with that, just this connection of the mind and the body. um And then we can move maybe a little more specific there, if that works for you. Sure. Well, I mean,
00:12:43
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One thing I learned recently, um like on a new level, I feel like we learn something and then we think we know that aspect, but then another layer comes, another piece of that knowledge. And then and then as we grow, it just kept keeps going. Like you never really ever get to, it's like infinity. We're just trying to keep reaching infinity, but we never do. And that's how I feel like our existence is.
00:13:13
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And so its in one way it's exciting because we we are always seeking the the information or always seeking to know or seeking to integrate something. um But I really feel like eventually it's to not know, it meaning meaning the goal is not to be in our heads all the time. The goal is actually to integrate and realize the body is the temple and it's one piece, not just up here in the clouds, right?
00:13:40
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and that we keep seeking the knowledge and the answers and the why we want to know why why why like even children right when they're born is asking why everything and we are like addicted to why why ology and it and how about the mystery though like what's wrong what's wrong with not knowing what's wrong with trusting the divine source to play with us and to guide us and to trust that and to have, you know, there's like a fine dance there. So I feel like we we go from one polarity to the other. And one thing I learned in this recent trip I was mentioning, I went to Bulgaria.
00:14:17
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And I went, um friends invited me for more so of a private um masterclass in Pydalagen. And Pydalagen, you know, is an advanced tapping and stretching process by the first, ah you know, designed by the Shaolin monks. So this is like your very intense, rigorous types of deep work, but from the physical.
00:14:45
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Right? we can We can take ayahuasca and do some deep work with the psychedelics, but and I have done these things, but I have not experienced as much of a profound shift in clearing and healing and releasing than actually approaching it from the physical body. um Because when you are when you're doing this for 20 minutes on a spot, okay?
00:15:11
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What starts to come out is all this shawl, which looks like petechiae, broken blood and stuff. But it's really not. It's actually deep, deep, deep debris inside the meridians. So our body is connected with um meridians, with little tubes through all the chakra points, through all the nadis. So doing this,
00:15:34
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Simple. You don't even have to think of anything. you don't even I mean, we do. We do, um, Haponopono when we tap. I, you know, thank you. I love you. Please forgive me. I'm sorry. This kind of thing. But, uh, what starts to come out is all debris. And I'm talking, yes, physical debris, where you, you know, you're getting sort of the bruising effect, which is called Shaw. And emotional effect happens where you might be crying, you might be,
00:16:03
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Having an experience in emotional experience in the mind thoughts ah things come up for release i had associations with shoulders and old boyfriends. You know i was surprised at where my body was holding memory and experience.
00:16:23
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and was coming through the mental sphere as I was clearing it. okay So I feel like that's a concentrated way of getting a lot processed and very efficient. when i When I think about these things, I like the efficiency of multiple. I don't want to, I don't want, I want to have fun. we We are here to have some fun and some joy and good things too, and not just always this strict discipline on ourselves and like,
00:16:48
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um However, it's a balance like everything and the PIDA is doing all of the three layers at once. And so you're really getting through a lot of um trauma,
00:17:01
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ah recessed post-traumatic stress um and emotional baggage that we just hold on to and we never release because healing, you know when you're asking me, what is healing?
00:17:15
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um Often I'll say, well, it's release. um You know, it's not suppression, it's expression. And we we we're really addicted to judging the symptoms and then taking something that suppresses it because when we think it goes away, we have the illusion that it goes away and then we think we're good, right?
00:17:32
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but that's actually just burying it. So you can you can bury stuff and hide stuff and it looks good on the outside, right? um Like you paint over the wall and you don't know where it was punched and you don't know what happened underneath it. And so that's like us. And then when you start to agitate,
00:17:49
Speaker
and mobilize this, it all comes to the surface. um And there's you know different ways to to go about doing it. And I think all of our modalities are just you know our belief systems on what's the best approach to go in, to to clear and and release and express what's been held and what's been hidden and what's been you know just patched over that really is crying out for true you know um true results, healing results.
00:18:20
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Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that. That's so cool. And there's so many different interesting modalities. And I think that one of the, you know, commonality that I see is, you know, this, this somatic component to it, right? We're not just addressing from the mind standpoint. We're not just going from a pure physical standpoint, but it's like this integration of the two within this, the modality as well.
00:18:49
Speaker
And I think that's so fascinating, right? So you're addressing multiple factors here. And really all of this is not far from the spiritual body either, right? They're the spiritual aspect of of our lives. Really, it all exists within that frame as well. And um like, ah honestly, that that's a very sort of difficult conversation to even have when we're talking about that higher level, because it's almost like hard to put into words, right? It kind of just exists as it is. and it How do we even talk about it? But, um, you know, it's all reliant on that, right? All of these lessons, all of these, even these interventions, these things that we're doing at all is connected, uh, even on that higher level, like you were mentioned earlier on this journey that we're on to for some reason improve ourselves, which, you know, I think is one of the greatest evidences for, you know, some sort of higher power there. And, um, anyways,
00:19:48
Speaker
Trauma has been a topic on this channel.
Trauma's Impact on Chronic Illness
00:19:51
Speaker
You know, we've been kind of delving into the weeds of it. Uh, we had a couple of very interesting conversations surrounding, you know, trauma as being sort of a causative agent of a lot of diseases. There's a lot of talk about how, you know, chronic illnesses especially are rooted in some sort of trauma. Um, I'm curious about your thoughts on that and, and whether or not, uh,
00:20:15
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you know There's an interplay with a physical there. I know that Bigglesons and I had a great conversation too about how you know there is an interplay between the storage of toxicity in the body and some sort of ah scarring caused by perhaps a ah very physical scar or a psychological scar. um Just curious maybe a bit to hear your thoughts on on that connection of trauma and disease there.
00:20:41
Speaker
Well, ah you can't separate anything really. This is a this is like a one organism and integrated with its world. So the idea of separation is kind of an illusion because if you were to really see, like see how maybe a dragonfly sees or so or any type of creature that has a broader ah range of experience of the world,
00:21:07
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ah because we have a very limited spectrum, light spectrum, that we can see with. So say we could see our energy fields, and some people can, and if you try, you actually can get those skill sets. But imagine, you know, ah the if you could see what was really going on.
00:21:25
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um how different we would behave and how different um we would interact. Like if you saw someone and they had, I don't know, a big hole in their field and they were just bleeding out, you could see that just stuff was coming out of them, draining them, or they were being, you know, stuff was being stuck in there and you'd go, hey,
00:21:49
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I can help you with that. I can help you with that because i my field is is good and i can I can assist you with it. you know This is where I think we're going to eventually get to, where we're going to be able to visualize or manage the electrical field because everything comes down to to this, right ultimately.
00:22:08
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And um so when it comes to the energy field of the mind, right, there's not really a separation in that all these fields. There's overlap and overlay. So the thought form is just a faster, it's like faster moving light than, you know, your arm. um So I see all of the things that we call physical is just like super slowed down light. I mean, quantum physics has described it like that too, whatever.
00:22:35
Speaker
Not that I subscribed everything that it does, but um I'm just saying like it's like a slowed down thought or slowed down light and then the and then the more refined it is the harder that it's faster and we don't see it as material and So our mind is just, you know, faster light. And that means though, that when we, if we slow down that light, we can create physical particles, right? We can manifest through the thought, through the word. And as we focus more on bringing the light and imagining that light is becoming more concretized, that's how we actually use our manifestation power. So that's why people love their vision boards and stuff, right? like
00:23:21
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you're like, Oh, I want to manifest a blah, blah, blah, or here's a wish or something I'm asking, you know, the divine for or something I feel just that I want to create. It's not just about the word, right? There's more vibrational need that has to happen there. So what I'm telling you this is just to help people understand how powerful the mind is, and the thoughts and that it does relate to creation.
00:23:47
Speaker
And so when we're in a trauma state, a lot of things go out of alignment. And I know from my own traumas and personal experience as well as other people. And it can begin your mind, like depending on how your mind is working, because some people are very visual and some people are very auditory. And so you you all have your, you know, different ways of how you you approach life.
00:24:13
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So I have an internal monologue, um about 50% of people don't. um So I when I speak, or when I think I think in speech, and I can hear myself in my head and but also I can visualize it. ah Additionally, some people have one or the other or, but you know, some people have both of those.
00:24:34
Speaker
So what's happening here is we're ruminating on past traumas and trying to complete them and trying to close them and trying to make sense of them and trying to put them to bed if you will. a But because of the pain associated with the thought, the emotion so associated with the thought, we continue to um mull and create more of the physicality more of the the we're we're putting more energy into the manifestation as we're trying to close the loop as we're trying to solve the issue um logically which is not the way to do it that's why talk therapy only will take you so far right um some logic is good not saying it's all bunk but some logic is fine like oh well
00:25:17
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you're you're just being silly because you're having a silly thought about your self-worth or something like that. So just stop it. It's like when you go to the doctor like, oh, you know when I do this, my arm hurts. And the doctor goes, don't do that then. you know It's like, well, OK, great. I'm going to have some thought stopping processes or some other things to like change my thinking, sure. But the underlying owie, if we will, is still there. right the The assault is still in the physical body. It's being held.
00:25:46
Speaker
ah So a lot of the rumination I feel like is the body trying to actually express it, complete it and get it out physically. um So the best thing to do for this is actually not mole is actually go and get physical, go and move the body, go and do breath work. go in um ground your body outside, you know, ah ah find new perspectives of energy, find new spaces that will help your energy field that has that hole in it, you know, um rebuild itself. And of course, any thought you have, just write it out and like even burn it or get rid of it, like just get it out of you so that you feel like you're not ruminating. ah But the change up the the best thing I found in the long run is just to
00:26:31
Speaker
exercise, ah go for a walk to do something physical stretch, um yoga, whatever, whatever it is, move your body, it's the best way I found to, to get it through and then if you're blocked, like if there's a blockage in your physical body that needs to be addressed. So that's either acupuncture, PIDA, there's like a million and one gadgets now we I even sell like an electro acupuncture device and Um, if terahertz frequency devices will do it like there, we have so much now actually, which is incredible. And, uh, so where it's like the more traumatized or we're getting the more solutions are coming. Um, so hopefully we can turn a corner on that at some point.
00:27:15
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more about the talk therapy part of it, especially it's funny.
Therapy: Traditional vs. Natural Interventions
00:27:21
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I'm finishing up a psychotherapy masters as we speak actually. And. Um, I liken, you know, the CBT approach, like the cognitive behavioral therapy approach to like the pharmaceutical company. Um, you know, like it's like almost a little bit of just like, it's very surface level. It's very addressing the symptom and not actually the root cause of anything. Um, you know, and so it's definitely important to go deeper. I, all I think, and I think that you're bringing up some really great points, something that I kind of struggle with. And just since we're on the topic here, you know,
00:27:56
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Really, my philosophy is centered around, you know, returning to nature, you know, really being inspired by natural principles, trying to integrate those into our lives nowadays. ah When it comes to these interventions, sometimes I find it difficult to decipher which ones, you know, and this might be a little a priority, right? So kind of like prior to any sort of experimentation, but trying to decipher which ones sort of align with this natural principle, right? Like, so like,
00:28:25
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say something like like acupuncture, right? And I think, you know, they're using now stainless steel needles ah for the most part to do acupuncture. I'm like, okay, well, like how natural is a stainless steel needle to be doing this intervention, right? So part of my brain goes there. The other part of it goes to, well, I think Hippocrates said it, you know, modern problems require modern solutions. That's totally like a paraphrasing of what he said. He probably said it way more eloquently, but Um, you know, even in regards to our experiences now and our, even the traumas that we face, we sort of face these unnatural traumas in this day and age. Whereas, you know, you can make the argument that we've always faced traumas, even in the natural setting, right? yeah You know, hunting accidents or whatever it may be, natural disaster, stuff like that. Um, you know, but.
00:29:21
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A lack of love from parents was not something that was really experienced in the natural setting, right? Because there was always such a high amount of gratitude for, you know, a newborn child, right? It was just full of potential. And, um you know, they were welcome with open arms. Whereas in this modern age, there's a lot of parents out there that elect their kids, you know, which is, I think, in an absolutely unnatural form of trauma. Obviously, um this discussion could go much deeper. But when it comes to interventions, right?
00:29:50
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I think that we are facing these unnatural environments that might require slightly more unnatural solutions, and but still kind of sticking as close to nature as you can. Are you following with what I'm saying here? Can you can you provide any comments on on what I'm um kind of trying to get at? her Yeah, well, how I you know translate sort of what you're saying in in the way that I teach is that um once you go down a road of suppression, right, and you take that road pretty far down, what happens is a dependency on the same activity.
00:30:34
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And then, so that's your modern solutions requirement, right? Because you you probably are aware that once an intervention happens, which is one of the roles of the shots is to, right? um You have a perfect baby, you give them this, you don't know the difference, right? Like you haven't even gotten to know them yet. So you can't tell the damage from the the first initial assaults.
00:31:02
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And so that's a modern approach to, that's like a mistake in thinking about health, right? Which will give damage. So now you have a damaged, instead of natural, you have something synthetically damaged. Now you are hopefully, ah the parents wise up, they stop that behavior, they clean things up, right? And then you can stay on the natural path.
00:31:26
Speaker
But you keep doing this, you keep giving the vaccines, you keep, you know, every time they get a scratchy throat, you give them the antibiotics that totally damages their terrain, not just gut, but their whole terrain. And you keep taking them to the doctors, which they approach it with suppression.
00:31:44
Speaker
It becomes a little bit, you know, to shift your path is a little bit tougher because there's a mindset that has to be overcome, which is often, you know, connected to guilt and shame and all kinds of things. You made mistakes and we're we're trained that mistakes are bad and you're bad if you make one. It goes right back to parenting, which is, you know, dysfunctional and that the the whole capture of what's happened to us is just unnatural.
00:32:12
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So it's like one intervention kind of begets another and it keeps you on that slippery slope because I remember talking with a farmer one time who had ah inherited a farm of a long um lineage of vaccination. um I think it was sheep or a specific type of sheep or something. And if they stopped the interventions of the vaccines, they all died.
00:32:37
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um So it it kept them dependent on the suppression as the action. So yeah, there can be that thing. That's how I think of it. It's like, all the well, now, like um you know a stretch and sweep seems innocent enough on ah when when there's childbirth, right? Even the midwives will do this kind of stuff.
00:32:56
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Oh, we've got to move this baby along. So we're going to do a stretch and sweep. Even that is unnatural. And even that can cause a chain reaction that sends them into a C-section, right? um And so what we have available is what we're going to use as in as smart a way as we can as we dig ourselves out of this ridiculous path that we've created for ourselves. And so we're goingnna we're going to have to learn compassion, acceptance. um where We have to um not be so judgy, which is really hard to do because you see mistakes being made and you want to correct them, but you know people learn through mistakes. So here we are, right? um And I think
00:33:48
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I accept when people are trying to get out of it and they're using some suppressive tools as they go, I i get it. But then there's the purest path or the the the highest path or the best, most best path or whatever, right? So it's like there's these different, so I see I go, oh, but if you could just have done it that way, oh, it would have been, you know?
00:34:12
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But people learn the hard way or they have to go through their processes. right like I have people that are scared to come off of their pharma drugs. See, I would be scared to be taking them. So it's little by little for people to come out of the ideologies, the propaganda machine, the generational aspects, right? Like those sheep that just couldn't, it was such a lineage of suppression that you stop suppressing and they couldn't even overcome. They couldn't even write the make the corrections, right?
00:34:49
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So it's like, okay, well, werere we're going to be gentle with ourselves now as we come out of this. And we're going to focus on the heart more than up here. And if someone's going to need to suppress something still,
00:35:04
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We can't just, you know, what are we going to do? You know, we have to love them through it. It's just the only it's the only way that I can see us getting out. um Banning these things is not going to be realistic. We're not going to ever. We're not going to get there just by overnighting it. It's just it took too long to get here. Like Rockefeller ideologies and the Frankfurt School ideologies and stuff, they've infiltrated pretty, pretty deep.
00:35:31
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Um, the philosophies I see right now are definitely shifting. So that's good. And, um, yeah, use what you got. I understand the acupuncture needles aren't the best. It's, we're going to get more refined, like everything comes down to frequency. So do we even need any of it ultimately?
00:35:50
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me No, we could heal with a thought we could heal with a touch we can, you know, I've studied Reiki from all kinds of angles and have all kinds of master's training in various types of hands on healing and that will work nine out of 10 times better than the dial in all or any of these other things.
00:36:09
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But we're not ready yet, right? we're just We're just babies in this. were So do what you, do best for you. I think that's where, meet yourself to the next highest level. That's your goal. You don't have to be ah the top achiever. You can just move to the next rung of the ladder and that's achievement for someone. so from If they're gonna get a stainless steel needle in their arm, go for it, okay? Because it's gonna unblock them, and then they're gonna get more um faster light coming through them, and then they're going to be able to connect to source, and then they're gonna be able to be guided better, right? Out of their muck, out of the the the low vibe stuff is just stuck in the muck, right? Any way to get them out is fine. That's where I'm at. Yeah, definitely.
00:36:55
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Yeah, and you can't just open up the floodgates, right? you know That kind of will just lead to disaster if you just kind of let it all out at once too, right? So there's sort of this, again, there's this protective aspect of our mind and our bodies too, right? Like our symptoms are obviously just healing mechanisms, right? Like the cough is slowly getting the toxicity out, but it's not like,
00:37:17
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You know, you open up your lungs and then boom, all the mucus is gone. Like it's not just like right away, right? It's a slow process. Same with a fever. You don't just sweat for five minutes and everything's out. It's, you know, it can last, you know, 24, 48 hours, whatever is kind of like natural and or normal, I guess, whatever normal means. But um yeah, that's really interesting. I think that's great. And yeah, you got to kind of.
00:37:41
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That's why it's so individual, right? We always say health is so individual. You have to meet the, you know, if you're a practitioner, you have to meet the client where they're at, or if you're working on yourself, you have to meet yourself where you are, right? And take it slowly and kind of even just reflecting on my own journey, you know, just right now. It was, it was still a very slow progression. You know, I, I encountered, you know, when I first heard of the terrain, I probably encountered some of the,
00:38:07
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you know, more purist ways to approach things, but they didn't necessarily resonate with me right off the bat. You know, so I, you know, I still took it like slow over the last, you know, four, four and a half years that I've been learning about the terrain, right? It's like, it's been a slow progression, um, to kind of integrate these principles over time. And, um, so it's interesting how that happens, right? It's, it's very difficult to go zero to a hundred.
00:38:35
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ah So I think that's really helpful. And it's that self-compassion piece too, right? I think even understanding this like logically can help with that cycle self-compassion piece a little bit, right? So um as much as that can can affect an individual, right? So that's amazing. That's great. um Yeah, you know, this conversation just fascinates you so much talking about this connection.
00:39:00
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um You mentioned that really interesting modality that you're just learning about.
Effective Health Modalities
00:39:04
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What are some other modalities that have really stood out to you for approaching, you know, health in general? You mentioned Reiki as well. Um, anything else kind of stand out as like just kind of mind blowing. Yeah. Um, it's like every, as I progress in life,
00:39:25
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every time I'm presented with something, I'm mind blown. After the Bulgarian trip, I was like, wow, how did I even miss this part? like yeah I mean, I knew obviously like tapping neuro-linguistic programming and like those types of things, right? And EFT, emotional freedom technique, and like all of these behavioral change like things you can do, physical, like ah But yeah, i'm I'm endlessly just a gat, like just like gat, I don't know what the word is, but like just a ghast I guess is the word is like wow, and how much there is available for us. And um like I probably don't even know maybe a thousand different other ways in different cultures that we don't have a clue about, honestly.
00:40:21
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like we're just It's exciting times actually. um so i would i mean Traditional Chinese medicine was one of my deeper loves. It was what really woke me up to the integration aspects of our body. It was the only model I had that really helped me relate the organ systems together.
00:40:42
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with the meridians and the rest of the body to to associate like when, as signs. So when someone comes to you and they have issues with their ears, you know, immediately I'm going to ask about if they have low back pain and if they have knee pain or knee problems because of the where the meridian goes and also ah because it all relates to the kidney and kidney health.
00:41:07
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So when someone is having ear issues, I support the kidneys because that's the expression of the kidneys comes out through the ears. And um just as one example, so this type of knowledge I found very powerful. It really helped me when I had someone in front of me with imbalances, how to approach it, how to approach the approach, the imbalances properly and how to make sense of why the body was doing what it was doing and the genius of the body.
00:41:38
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ah I would say then that my next, you know, powerful love um was just the medicine that grows ah of the earth and so plant medicine and learning that we have medicine outside of our front doors literally is sitting there for us. And um the more we get to know it and the more we you know ingest it and work with it, the more powerful we become, the more knowledgeable we become, the more um intuitive to our own needs we become.
00:42:13
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And it's still overlooked somehow. I mean, it's still not a household thing to do. ah ri To think about the plantain growing on your driveway when there's a wound. Instead of reaching for the polysporin, right? How about go outside and grab a leaf and bruise it up and put it on your wound? You know, this kind of approach of the way we think about our medicine.
00:42:38
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um And then um movement, anything to do with a physical movement is has to happen in some in your life. it just there We are meant to move. We are born to move.
00:42:52
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um And so these types of the therapies that I found work the most are aligning the breath with the body, um making sure that things are mobilized inside and sweating, which is a form of cleansing or detoxing, right?
00:43:09
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um So it doesn't even have to be a specific modality, but I have found, you know, Qi Gong, Tai Chi, a lot of the a lot of the martial arts are very centering and balancing and potent.
00:43:25
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um I found that, yeah, the the stretching and slapping pi-dilagin sort of approach is very concentrated, so you're getting a wow factor sort of after that. um Some of the other processes take a bit longer.
00:43:41
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Terahertz frequency or frequency healing on any level is probably one of the most powerful because that's why we do anything. I mean, I don't think i think at some point we'll figure out how we don't need to eat food because everything we put in our mouths and and ah digest and and assimilate what it What eventually happens? you know I've said this before. What eventually happens? Well, what's what's it after? It's after an an electrical moiety of some sort, an electrical action. It boils down to that energy, everything, like literally everything that goes in. That's what it's about. It's getting down to that and how it's interacting with all the other things in its electricity.
00:44:21
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Um, which means we can affect ourselves very easily on from those, um, from frequencies, understanding frequencies. So I have like a Tesla machine, for example, very powerful.
00:44:33
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um I have an ozone machine, also very powerful. um That's more you know using oxygen to heal, but it's getting at blood level so it's it can approach you know the entire body. I have a hydrogen machine, same same idea. and Hydrogen being like ah the most ah ah you know the smallest element, but the biggest amount of it in our bodies.
00:44:54
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and the structuring of water and the fourth phase of water and understanding um how when our waters are structured properly, our electricity flows as it needs to and and affecting that. So with terahertz frequency devices, um ah I have a rife machine as well that I've Tesla coil, but ah also rife machines. So rife machines will send you frequencies through your your signature, which we're calling DNA, whatever you know we can argue.
00:45:23
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all of that at some point when we get down the nitty gritty. But um again, boiling down a frequency, but your unique code, and you can send frequencies to any part of your body that way. Those are very powerful um aspects. so we can get So I find the most, the heavy hitters as I call them, right, are like from the physical are things like DMSO, dimethyl sulfoxide, which I wrote a book called Healing with DMSO that is a guide that If people don't understand the substance, want to know how to use it properly, that's why the book is there. It's layperson understanding, even though it's all science-backed, everything. and Then things like um coffee enemas. Again, they're a heavy hitter because the the liver controls the blood, controls the endocrine system. It's like the master gland of the body that
00:46:12
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It's like your receptionist, everything comes into the body, has to go through the liver, liver has to make all those decisions. It's your major detoxifier and organizer and regulator. So if you can get on top of your liver and support it and clean the blood through the liver, you you get ahead of the problem very quickly, right?
00:46:31
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and pain, inflammation, cancer, gall butter issues, um menstrual pain, hormonal imbalances, you name it, you can do that and get a result. Okay. um So there's these kinds of physical approaches that can be done and you don't even need to know what's wrong 100% before you start.
00:46:51
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um I'm writing also a book co-authoring on urine therapy or Shavambu, using your own the intelligence of your own waters to regulate and up and down regulate because it's actually an adaptogen. So it will choose what needs to be made more of and what needs to be less of. So there's an intelligence there. There's an automatically obstructed water which has its own intelligence And then it's not actually waste. People think the urine is waste. It's not. It's just excess. And you can apply this in so many ways. And that's why we're writing a book, um you know a guide on how to use your own waters for your own healing. um So you know this these are some of the modalities that are not really known um or substances not really known, but very, very potent. It gets gets a lot of things done. Like even DMSO can be used in a trial with Down syndrome.
00:47:44
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and can correct a lot of the genetic problems that you see, like the larger tongue and the the shape of the face and the breathing issues and stuff can repair that. um Like Dr. Stanley Jacob, who's considered the godfather of dimethyl sulfoxide, he treated many ah down syndrome children and they grew up without the features ah the problems and features that they they typically get, which means it's As much as we want to say genetics is like that type of genetics is you know set in stone It's actually not there is still an epigenetic component that can be affected as The child is still in growth during growth after everything's set after 26 when everything's finished um Very
Self-Doctoring and Health Education
00:48:30
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hard to change but as we're flexible when we're younger a lot of these conditions can be affected and that's major and So there there are plenty and plenty of powerful modalities, and I've dabbled in a huge amount of them um and teach a lot of them. So if people are you know interested in some of these topics, I suggest going to um yummy dot.doctor. That's my ah my main one of my main websites.
00:48:59
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It has a private membership. I'm teaching there. what i What I'm focused on is teaching people how to doctor their own selves, how to feel empowered, you know what to do, ah how to triage things, how to deal with the cutes, how to help their families, you know how to have their home dispensaries, um how to get back to nature in a way. like the way we used to do it, and more, and the modern ways. The cool modern ways can fit into our historical traditional ways. um you know It's like we're we're in a world of AI now. So you know it's a tool. And it's like the tool can be for negative things or for positive things. right um So we're going to adapt the best we can, but always remember fundamental principles. And that's the safest way to you know move forward.
00:49:43
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and um Yeah, I just if people are interested, I have tons of public free public videos, you know, on all these topics and blog articles and stuff. And I have a sub stack page as well. And people can um sort of, you know, feel more comfortable to learn about these things so that they can apply them and test them out themselves and then go, oh, my God, who knew a coffee enema could provide that much relief or who knew that my urine wasn't waste? I didn't realize that or whatever. So. Awesome.
00:50:15
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Yeah, and kind of what it sounds like too is like there's a big um integration happening too, right? Like, obviously, you take a very holistic perspective and just the way that you study and learn about these topics, but also apply them and, um you know, there's this sort of great integration going on. I've talked about this a little bit, how we we are in this beautiful age where we can know about so many different traditional medicines and all of these new modern ways to approach, you know, healing and health and Um, really bringing it all together. So cool. It's so fun to learn about this stuff. I really appreciate, um, you know, all the the wisdom and, and, uh, Knowledge that you shared here today. It was really, really an amazing discussion. Do you have any final thoughts on the episode? Anything that you want to add or before we kind of sign off here?
00:51:01
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um well uh you know we're in interesting times there's a proverb about that um and uh i what i'm feeling is um that there's a lot of loneliness energy there's a lot of um like isolation, ah alone energy, even even um ah when people are around other people, they may feel very alone. um And I just, you know, I feel like social media has got us in a real pickle with our communications, with our interactions, with our satisfaction.
00:51:43
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And I just wanted to address that, you know, if you're feeling like that, this is kind of what's going around and to um not stress about it I guess because I think people think they're the only one they stress about it more and I just feel that the energies are really big for this and we're gonna figure it out we're we are gonna figure it out together so just hold on and find your people that you can speak with that you know um are okay with you that accept you for who you are and um you and do what it takes to um
00:52:24
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to not mull in it, to not stay in the thought form of that too much. um we really We really need each other and you know as much as we have been separated from the tribe, kind of going back to what you were talking about,
00:52:40
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excuse me at the beginning you know with nature and nature's principles well we used to be tribal right you were saying with children we used to we used to all take care of the children um but now we've got little boxes and little families and um weird expectations unnatural expectations which means we're we've put a lot of hardship on ourselves and it's really easy to ah feel overwhelmed by that and it's not natural just you know it's not natural to live the way we're living um this is adaptive and we are we like with all things we are figuring it out so i just wanted to leave on that note because i think it's very common and there's a lot of suicides and a lot of
00:53:27
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people struggling with um depression and anxiety.
Hope, Encouragement, and Community
00:53:33
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And we are, um I just wanted to just give some hope to people. And also, you know, there are tools that you can use to get yourself out of that you don't need to continue to mold and suffer. um You don't deserve it. As much as you think that you're not worthy or you're, you know, less than or whatever the thoughts are the thought form that got in there, just Even if you have put elastic band around your wrist and snap that away whatever you gotta do just stop the thought it's a wrong thought and you are divine and worthy and In fact, I would go so far as to say is if you didn't exist none of this would exist because that's how integral you are and important you are to life and So knowing we are one and knowing we are connected. I just want to thank you very much for the work you're doing and It's inspiring to see younger generations like understand the importance of this knowledge and run with it. um It's very brave because we're still in a lot of ignorance and stuff, but it's ah the more we do it, the more we'll get there. So um everyone chin up and um and thanks again for for hosting and for having me and um and thanks to your audience.
00:54:51
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What a beautiful way to end the show. Thank you, Dr. Volmer, for everything today. Thank you so much, Liev. Yeah, amazing. I want to thank you all for listening. ah You should all know that this is not medical advice. This is for informational purposes only. But also remember, we're all sovereign, responsible beings, capable of thinking, criticizing, understanding, absolutely anything. We, the people in Greater Forrester, together, self-healer, self-governable, self-teacher, so much more. So make sure you reach out. If you have any questions, criticisms, comments, concerns, if you feel lonely, whatever it is, reach out. We're always here to chat.
00:55:20
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