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28 Days Later
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they embark on another short season with 28 Days Later! That’s right, they’re talking rage infected, fast running zombies! Written by Alex Garland and Danny Boyle, this movie is a host favorite, and it’s all leading to 28 Years Later, here on Morbid Curiosities!
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Introduction to 'Morbid Curiosity'
00:01:11
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A man walks into bar with a giraffe. They both get pissed. The giraffe falls over. The man goes to leave and the bartender says, Oi, you can't leave that lion there. And the man says, No, that's not a lion.
00:01:24
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That's a giraffe. What's up guys, we're Morbid Curiosity's bringing you another episode. I'm Nicholas Ewers and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the morbid mistress of mayhem herself.
00:01:37
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Mercedes Martinez, bravo on that intro. You did it with a smile the whole time and you you stuck to it. I'm so proud of you for that. I could not have done that. I'm so proud.
00:01:51
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I feel like I kept switching between an English and an Australian accent the whole time.
Accents and Movie Spoilers
00:01:59
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i don't feel like I fully nailed one na the one I was supposed to, but, you know. though. You tried.
00:02:09
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That joke, spoilers ahead,
Subtitles in Movies
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guys. We're covering 28 Days Later if you didn't read the title to this episode. That joke, I've heard it like so many times, especially as a kid. I watched these movies a lot as a kid.
00:02:25
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and I never really understood what the fuck he was saying at all any time I watched it. and Now as an adult watching it with subtitles, I just fully indulge in being like,
00:02:37
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Yeah, i i I get it now. I once never knew with the hell he was saying, but I get the joke now. I'm a big boy. i can read. and Maybe can't hear, but I can read. That's what the subtitles are for. It gets us it gives us all the jokes that we can't fully hear or understand.
00:03:01
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I don't know. Have we talked about this on the podcast before? I'm sure we have, but I have to do subtitles every time I'm watching ah ah virtually anything.
00:03:12
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I can deal without subtitles sometimes. majority of the times The majority of the time, especially if it's a movie I haven't seen before, but I can watch it in the comfort of my own home, I do want subtitles just so I can hear everything because I do feel like a lot of scenes just fly past me because of how the person is speaking or whatever is going on in the scene, I need subtitles. and It's funny how people hate subtitles.
00:03:44
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like They can't enjoy the movie if there are subtitles on it. well Those people are wrong. I'm just going to say it now. People out there who hate subtitles are wrong.
00:03:56
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They're wrong for hating it. I know it's an opinion, but in this case, they're wrong. throwing knives early on it's so helpful i feel like most adults i know watch movies with subtitles now and they always say it to me or just say it to anybody like if i'm hearing them talk about it they say it like they're the only one and i'm thinking like it's most people at this point.
Excitement for '28 Days Later'
00:04:22
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It really does help you understand what's being said. I mean, even though I think we talked about on Mike that the subtitles are wrong a good chunk of the time, but filmmakers like Christopher Nolan, for example, one of the biggest filmmakers who ah ah draws in some of the biggest audiences, he will purposely obscure dialogue, tenet,
00:04:47
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The Dark Knight Rises with Bane, it's a thing that filmmakers choose to do. so yeah Subtitles are they're helpful. they're They're more useful than they're not. and they They should always be welcomed with open arms.
00:05:04
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I love it. I love it. Let's go. Let's get into 28 Days Later. I'm excited. Hell yeah, guys. We're covering honestly a movie that's the the pretty big for me. This is going to be a big episode, but Mercedes. so We were talking a little bit before we started recording. You had said that you think you saw this movie once before. What's your relationship or experience with this franchise as a whole? I know there's only like two movies, so there's not a lot, but
00:05:37
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We got the new one coming out 28 years later that will, spoilers for the podcast, be covering in the future. So, I mean, what's your relationship to this franchise? And are you in any way excited for the new movie?
00:05:51
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I am excited for the new movie just because we are going to cover it for this. and I actually just saw the trailer for it when I went to see Final Destination in theaters. That was fun.
00:06:06
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There's some stuff I got to say about that movie too, but I'll wait until we cover Final Destination. Do you want to give your initial opinion for the listeners or do you want to wait for when we inevitably cover the FDs?
00:06:20
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The fact that they play Johnny Cash in the beginning. oh my God. That made me... That was kind of like how you felt with Bride of Chucky and Terrifier 2 with the opening credits song.
00:06:35
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This is how I felt going into this movie. Like, damn, this is going to be a badass movie. it I mean, I already figured that because I had you and so many other people hyping it up for me. so I knew it was going to be good, but having that song in there just to start us off, that made it great. I fucking enjoyed the hell out of that movie. You felt seen.
00:06:58
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i did. you have no idea how many people made fun of me in high school because listened to Johnny Cash. Fuck you guys. Johnny Cash, legendary.
00:07:09
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Exactly. Mercedes wins. Final Destination, the movie with Johnny Cash in it, is over like $100 million dollars at the domestic box office right now.
00:07:21
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It's like fucking slaying it. I put 28 years later over it on my summer box office, like wager that I'm doing, and I'm kind of regretting that a little bit. I...
00:07:32
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I feel like Final Destination might... i mean, there's a lot of hype for 28 years later. Final Destination had broken the record. i think it broke its record for it the capital I-T, the Stephen King adaptation.
00:07:47
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The trailer for that first movie, Final Destination, I want to say, broke the record for most viewed trait most views on a horror trailer. And then 28 years later, trailer came out, and that broke the record after that.
00:08:01
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So I was thinking like, it's such a toss up, which is going to dominate the box office. But God damn it. Two strong horror movies. so With this with this movie, 28 Days Later, i am pretty sure I watched it once before and i could not remember any of
Plot Overview of '28 Days Later'
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it. I was turning it on now thinking I'm going into this blindly, but once it started rolling, after the whole intro scene with all the ah ah chimp at chimpanzees,
00:08:35
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and They show, i never pronounce his name right, and I actually really like him as an actor. Is his name Killian Murphy? Yes, that's correct. Okay, because I jack up everyone's names wrong. I mess up my own name. I can't see. Is that Killian Murphy?
00:08:51
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Well, yes. Once I watched it this time around, it it clicked in my head. oh I did see this before because I remember- his face and it's funny just watching it now i was thinking oh yeah peaky blinders is in here i love how everyone from that show i just all the actors i just referenced that show now they played in it but he was such a baby in here basically any british actor
00:09:22
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Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, watching it now, it has me hyped up more so for 28 years later, just because it's getting me back into this creepy fucked up world of, you know, the virus infecting everybody.
00:09:41
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It left me so uncomfortable. i was going to text you like, what the fuck am I watching throughout half of it There's so much despair in here. So i I feel like all of the action scenes and the sad scenes that are included in these films is going to be...
00:10:05
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so much higher or included so much more in 28 years later. So I'm pretty excited to see what that's going to bring to us. I do feel like what really sets this movie apart, and and guys, if you didn't take the first spoiler warning seriously, we're about to spoil this thing, but this one ends on a very hopeful note that you don't really get in a lot of these zombie movies. It has a very pleasant...
00:10:33
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ending that I don't know about you, but i really appreciate. Some people have said they find it jarring. It feels like a tonal shift. You go from such a bleak, aggressively but bleak setting with these soldiers, and then that's all over, and it's just hope and peace, and maybe we can beat this.
00:10:56
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do you feel about like that contrast that happens there? I did like it because everyone is pretty much on their own in this film. But then once some they get to where all the soldiers are at, you know they think, okay, we found some like salvation here. we We're going to get help.
00:11:17
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Everything is going to be fine. We found more people. So the whole time they're trying to escape all of the infected population. But once they're here, they're in another form of danger because Christopher Eccleston, if I jacked up his name wrong, sorry, he basically tells... You got it.
00:11:40
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Oh, cool. Thanks. He tells Killian's... person in here, Jim, he he told him, you know, I promised my men women.
00:11:51
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So you're just thinking like, fuck, they're they're going to full on take advantage of these two girls here and pretty much kill off Jim. And that part made me sick to my stomach because...
00:12:04
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I wasn't expecting that. so That was just a new horror that the audience is sitting with. so The fact that they were able to escape these people and the way they did was done beautifully.
00:12:19
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All those fuckers deserved what they got. I'm just saying. I know you don't like when I say people deserve the death that they get. These guys all deserved it. yeah I agree. We'll get into it.
00:12:30
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But for them to dip out and then be able to escape, that was a good way to end this. Honestly, I i was able to breathe a breath of fresh air after that.
00:12:43
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Hell yeah,
Themes and Atmosphere
00:12:44
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that's awesome. I guess I'll give my thoughts on the movie pretty quickly and then we can kind of run down the events of the movie. i There's a lot I have to ah ah say about this thing, so everyone just bear with me.
00:13:02
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But when I hear what you have to say, it helps me with what ah ah what I have to say, so it's okay. Yeah, so 28 Days Later.
00:13:13
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This whole franchise, these two movies are some of the most important horror movies to me, I'd say. I'll get more into my experience on the next episode, but 28 Weeks Later was the first horror movie that I saw in theaters.
00:13:31
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It was one of the first horror movies that I saw, period. After I'd seen that, I saw it out 28 Days Later. And not just that, but Dawn of the Dead, the remake, and the x are the original and the Zack Snyder version, the Crazies remake.
00:13:50
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Any zombie movie that I could see on TV, I would just throw on and watch immediately. There was one called like Dead Men Walking, I think I remember anything. George A. Romero was a big guy for me. Diaries of the Dead, Survival of the Dead, Land of the Dead 2, the later Romeros. But not only really...
00:14:11
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brought me into horror it defined my favorite part of horror which is zombies i didn't realize it until i guess adulthood but zombies are some of my favorite kind of horror my most the kind of horror i find the most compelling when done right There's so many bad zombie movies out there, but when they're done right, when they're making some kind of social commentary and it's working, it's at its best.
00:14:43
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And 20 days later, i would put there up top with the best of the best. It's not only one of my favorite zombie movies, one of my favorite horror movies, it's one of my favorite movies in general.
00:14:58
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On Letterboxd, I have a top 16, just because 16 looks nicer aesthetically, so I go with that. And 28 Days Later is right up there. i put it up there earlier this year after re-watching it.
00:15:13
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It just works so hard for me. And we'll get into it more so why. But this and 28 Weeks Later are very defining movies for me. And I'm proud to be here planting the flag and, you know, waving it for these movies right now. I really hope...
00:15:35
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28 years later doesn't let me down. But it's... I mean, I like 28 weeks. I'm more forgiving it of it than other people. That one didn't have Danny Boyle and Alex Garland.
00:15:48
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This one, 28 years, and the third one both have Danny Boyle and Alex Garland. And the second one is... Alex Garland writing it still, I think, and Nia DaCosta, who did the Candyman remake and the Marvels, a Marvel movie I will defend.
00:16:06
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It's not that bad. It's pretty fun. But Nia DaCosta is directing it, so it's got a lot of potential, and I guess we'll see. That's everything I got on 28 Days Later right now. I'm ready to kind of kick this plot off if you are. I think we'll fly through it pretty fast.
00:16:24
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Yeah, and I agree with that, but start us off. Start us off with the plot. All right, so i had made a joke earlier to you that ah ah kind of slipped by, but I was like, something along the lines of you were looking at and being like, wait, is that Cillian Murphy? like You couldn't tell it was him?
00:16:44
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but I was trying to make a comment about the way the movie looks. It looks almost like it was shot on a potato or like a Super Nintendo or something. I really enjoy that. That's something I didn't catch originally when I had watched it as a kid. I think that just because I watched it on, like, usually pretty shitty quality devices anyway, it took a while before I got a Blu-ray.
00:17:11
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But i remember... A couple years ago, I had put on put in my Blu-ray and was watching the movie and just being like, this must just look like shit because of the Blu-ray. It looks kind of like shit.
00:17:23
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That was my initial thought. I've since reverted on that and have grown in appreciation for the look a little bit. But you didn't like notice anything. This was shot on an early, early digital camera that...
00:17:37
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I forgot the details behind it, but Danny Boyle was experimenting with
Infection Origin and Chaos
00:17:40
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it. and It was like handheld and easier to move. i think it was similar to like a camcorder, but it's something that's aged into a very specific look that not many other movies really have.
00:17:54
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So I probably didn't notice anything because I did have to watch this on my Chromebook so that there is just giving it shitty quality. So I figured nothing was wrong.
00:18:09
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If I was able to watch it on my TV, then probably would have noticed a difference. It might have been streaming at like the best possible quality on your Chromebook, and you just thought, oh, it it looks like crap because it's my Chromebook.
00:18:22
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And I'm not trying to say this movie looks like crap, but we begin the movie with basically what a lot of horror movies tend to not show us right off the bat. It's the start of the infection It's at first these shots of like public and like civil unrest. People in the streets rioting, lighting things on fire, just going fucking buck wild everywhere.
00:18:49
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And then... the camera kind of pans out and it's revealed that there are these chimps watching all of these and there are these chimps in cages and these like left-wing animal rights activists break in to go and free them and this scientist comes in and tells them guys don't do this i know you think you're helping but they're infected with rage and the guy's like what's rage and he's like In order to understand it, or in order to cure it first, we must understand it.
00:19:22
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So they're basically creating some form of rage within these monkeys or these chimps. And it's like rage to its furthest extreme in order to study and figure out how to cure rage in a time where the world is...
00:19:40
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isn't at its best people i mean they show you on camera people are riding in the streets most of this movie was shot pre-9-11 it came out like a little bit after nine eleven so it feels very of that time but uh yeah they let out one of the chimps it attacked somebody and that's the start of the infection it's uh 28 days later from there you got any thoughts on this a lot of Horror movies, a lot of zombie movies don't take the time to really explain the origin. How did you feel about that?
00:20:14
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I kind of liked that they showed it because you're right, a lot of movies or shows don't explain how this whole end of the world sequence starts. so I actually got confused. I thought I was watching the wrong movie.
00:20:33
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because i saw the chimps there again i didn't read any of the descriptions on anything for this movie so i didn't know that chimps were involved so when i saw it i was so confused thinking okay is that a monkey right there that that's a pretty hairy specimen and i don't think it's a dog mercedes please it's a chimp not a monkey Sorry, a chimp. Yeah, it was just strange because i i didn't expect that. And then once they started getting into it more...
00:21:06
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I appreciated that they you know took the time for the intro to explain that. I am happy that at least one of the chimps actually attacked it was the the girl in there that was trying to get them to escape, right?
00:21:22
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They attacked her first? Yes. They attack the girl, and then the girl immediately split spits blood in another guy's eyes, and he doesn't handle it well.
00:21:32
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What is with the eyes in every movie? There is something to do with the eyes. Even later in this film, something happened with the eyes. I'm not going to spoil 28 weeks later, but this is a series that likes the occasional eye thing.
00:21:50
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They like a good eye gag. They know you're watching. Actually, there are two scenes involving eyeball shit. so You're telling me that there's more in 28 Weeks Later involving eyeballs?
00:22:07
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Yes, and it really like indulges in it too. Listeners, you know what's up. You know what I'm talking about. Oh, my God. You've all seen the movie.
00:22:18
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Oh, my God. 2007 classic, 28 Weeks Later, everyone's favorite movie. Guys, if you missed the part where this whole podcast is based on my blind spots and Nick's blind spots in horror films, well, here it is again. i have not fully seen 28 Days Later until now, and then 28 weeks later, I have not seen at all.
00:22:44
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So now I'm a little... squeamish thinking about it. so Great, something to look forward to. More eyeballs. it's yeah 20 weeks later is a fun one though. I think you're going to have a good time with that.
00:23:00
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I don't know. You kind of you can got me worried when you said you're more forgiving of it than other people. Is it bad altogether? I don't think it's bad. It's just this movie carries such weight. This movie was unintentionally like making a statement at the time that it came out.
00:23:20
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And it was pretty a pretty important release. It affected a lot of people, especially given the imagery. So shortly after nine eleven I think it's like maybe a year it came out after 9-11, maybe not even a full year.
00:23:36
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28 weeks later could just never really live up to what this movie was. And 28 weeks later doesn't really try. It's just like, we're going to do the 28 days thing, but as a really intense horror movie.
00:23:49
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And it it really works. Danny Boyle, we'll get into it. He directed the intro to it, and it's one of the best horror intros of all time, I think.
00:24:00
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All I heard
Jim's Journey and Isolation
00:24:01
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was eyeballs. I'll say it now and I'll say it for listeners. This isn't a spoiler for the next week's movie, but if you're squeamish about eye stuff, the movie, it will present the moment very clearly in front of you and you can feel free to close your eyes during it.
00:24:20
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You'll know when it's coming up. It's like not early in the movie, but it's within the first act. Okay, thank you for the heads up at least.
00:24:30
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Watch My Dumbass is still going to watch it and freak out and probably yell at you for that. But we're talking about 28 days today. Yeah, I really enjoy the fact that this movie gets rid of any kind of ambiguity. It doesn't even, because I don't know about you, when I'm watching maybe Dawn of the Dead or something,
00:24:53
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It is in the back of my mind. How did this start? Where would it have started? What are the origins? 28 weeks later, lays it out in front of you. It feels believable and grounded.
00:25:04
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It's not something supernatural like yeah a decaying corpse. It's something within us that's getting brought out and it's very primal and it's ugly it's the very worst side of us that could possibly get brought out and there's no stopping it once it's out and i really you can kind of connect the dots on your own especially later when they dump the exposition and this movie handles exposition like no other horror movie i think
00:25:40
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But ah you can really connect the dots of how this thing got out of the lab and got out of control and really spread. It's fast, it's instant, and it's not stoppable. it's very It's a cool take on the zombie scene.
00:26:00
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tro or the zombie like idea especially for the time now we've seen a lot like this but ah at the time especially it was like it's very fresh and I love what it did for zombies as a whole Yeah, that was a ah ah cool concept, just using rage as the virus.
00:26:21
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and once they switch from, you know, that scene to where Killian wakes up in the and the hospital, once he gets outside,
00:26:34
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There's absolute silence out there. And that freaked me out. I mean, you have nothing, no sound, no one around. I thought they did a good job of just that whole silence to completely isolate him in that moment.
00:26:51
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Yeah, it's like right out of the Twilight Zone. They kind of imply that he maybe got hit by a car because he was ah ah a package delivery guy, rode a bike.
00:27:03
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And so they implied maybe he got hit by a car, and ended up in a coma, and And what I really like is how the circumstances under which he wakes up, he's naked.
00:27:17
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The blinds are closed. The door is locked, but someone slipped a key underneath the door. So it it feels like such a lived in situation, but the world is entirely empty. Like,
00:27:31
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Someone was looking after him, maybe changing his clothes, giving him a sponge bath. They were nice enough to close the blinds and lock the door to keep him protected. But it's just nobody is there. And it I tried to put myself in Killian's character, Jim, his shoes this whole time and tried to imagine what would it be like if I just woke up and everything was gone, and like or everybody was gone, it was desolate.
00:28:06
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And i don't know, my mind, I wouldn't go to zombie apocalypse immediately if that was the case. What would you think of then? I would think alien abduction before zombie apocalypse because you would kind of expect to see bodies, but I do really like the choice of, I mean, it seems like whatever bodies were in the nearby streets all got dragged into the the church. Yeah.
00:28:32
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It seems, which I do really like that layer, but I do like that they chose tone and atmosphere over having bodies scattered all over the place. It would have kind of taken away from what how powerful that imagery is if there were bodies all over the place.
00:28:50
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It also would have spelled it out too much for the main character, I think. No, that's true because while he is going... yeah i can't talk.
00:29:01
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While he's going through the entire hospital looking for somebody, you don't see any blood on the walls, nothing of that sort, nothing crazy. But you see... ah All of the chairs, the phones, everything is scattered around. It's all on the floor.
00:29:21
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So you know something's wrong, obviously. But they don't show how crazy it what is. One of my favorite details, too, and ah ah something I didn't really fucking pay attention to in like a character way until watching it this most recent time, but he i always love the fact that he wakes up and he drinks a Pepsi. He doesn't go for water.
00:29:47
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He goes for Pepsi. i always think, like, what kind of fucking maniac would do that? But it kind of, and I know ah ah people that, like, and no offense to anybody, if you would reach for a Pepsi before water after being in a coma, I just, I mean, I wake up from a nap and I'm chugging a bottle water.
00:30:09
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but i mean, i used to chug Coca-Cola as a kid. I would wake up in the middle of the night, sneak in my mom's room because she always had a case of pop right by her door.
00:30:21
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i would grab one. I'd open it up and I would chug it. And apparently my entire family could hear me, whether it was my mom or my stupid siblings upstairs claiming to be sleeping.
00:30:33
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Everyone heard me. So I i can relate to the to Killian in here. I can relate. Yeah, except the difference is you you weren't a bearded man.
00:30:44
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you know i mean, we've seen his dick. He's all man. we We know. Did you expect to see his dick at all? No, I didn't. That's your introduction.
00:30:58
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That was my introduction, and i was even looking to see if he had a body double in here, and I guess he didn't. So no that was that was a good intro, I guess.
00:31:10
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That was him good for Killian. didn't... you know he didn didn't packing little bit, you know, nothing to be ashamed of. but He's studying the setting the stage.
00:31:21
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Yeah. I love him getting the Pepsi because in a way it does feel a little immature and it feels like this is not someone who's ready for this fucking shit that's about to go down. Like anybody who was prepared, who is hoin is in the know about the world right now,
00:31:41
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would be reaching for water, and they would be grabbing every water they they could find as they were reaching for it. And he goes for a pop, and I was like, him drinking that Pepsi is just showing this guy is not ready for what's in store for him in a couple of moments.
00:32:00
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you know I like that you mentioned that because he didn't fully pack that little bag that he had. he didn't fully fill it with supplies or sustenance that he would need.
00:32:12
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so yeah they i like that point of view right there because it's so true. Even when he starts meeting the other characters in here, he's still not fully...
00:32:24
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aware of what's going on and then even when they try to explain it to him, he you see he's still kind of like... Not really in denial, but kind of just thinking, well, I could still go find my family. i can figure this out on my own, you know, whatever.
00:32:41
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So he really was not prepared at all. I love that you mentioned that. I didn't think about that. And what I like about his character, too, is he... i mean, there is a certain turning point we'll get into a little bit later, but he...
00:32:56
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is very like childish at certain points. I mean, he later on, I would say, looks to Frank, Brendan Gleeson's character, as like a surrogate father.
00:33:07
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He makes a remark to Naomi Harris's character, Selina, about, oh, it's like going on holiday with your aunt or something. You know? He's kind of like a fucking...
00:33:22
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child a little baby boy at times and it's like dude yeah you haven't lived the full 28 days maybe it takes that well i mean it takes that long to form a habit maybe it really takes that long to get hardened but dude fucking catch up a little bit I don't know why I found that hilarious.
Survivors' Dynamics
00:33:48
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One detail ah i thought that you might enjoy too, because you had mentioned the empty London streets. It's London, right? I don't have that wrong. Yeah, United Kingdom.
00:34:00
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Mm-hmm. They, I guess, would come in and they asked... I was listening to a little bit of the commentary, and I feel like this is over-discussed on this movie, so I apologize if people have heard this before.
00:34:13
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They had these traffic guards that they designated. Danny Boyle had said one of them was his daughter, too. They came and they would block traffic.
00:34:24
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at all of the at like a couple different points and would shoot for one to two minutes at a time and get as much footage as they could and they did that across like six days the week before 9-11 happened and they said if they did that after 9-11 they probably would have ended up going to jail it's crazy how close they were to not having been able to get those shots. but And I love how fuzzy Cillian Murphy is when it's out of focus. This movie is like lightning in a bottle to me, especially when I look at the talent that's involved in how, at the time, they were all basically nobodies. And now everybody is a star.
00:35:10
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Oscar-winning, Oscar-nominated actors, basically. It's... This movie is such a special object to me. But so, yeah, he gets done wandering the streets and ends up inside of a church. There's a writing on a wall that I thought you would really appreciate.
00:35:30
Speaker
It's a slow pan up revealing the phrase backwards. Actually, I thought that was pretty cool. It makes you really read it, but it says the end is fucking nigh. in this church.
00:35:42
Speaker
Pretty metal, I don't know. How did you feel about that? It took me a while to actually see it because again, i was on my Chromebook here, but that whole scene there was so messed up.
00:35:58
Speaker
I actually, if this sounds stupid, I'm sorry. I actually thought everyone went into the church to kill themselves. like a mass suicide because of everything going on until you had mentioned what people actually did.
00:36:13
Speaker
But that whole scene, like just imagine walking into that. That was such a fucked up scene to see. like It freaked me out. Honestly, mass suicide is not a bad guess.
00:36:27
Speaker
The whole time watching it as a kid, especially I was like, oh, that was just a group of people who went there to pray and an infected came in there and just killed all of them, ripped them all to shreds. And it was just a massacre.
00:36:40
Speaker
But on the commentary, they specifically say that their intention was to make it that the bodies got dragged from the street into the church. And I had actually not thought about it that way.
00:36:52
Speaker
until watching the movie with the commentary yesterday. This is why the commentary is so great to watch. my I would always watch the commentary for films when I was little, just because I liked hearing all the actors just joke about scenes or just get more in detail with it. There's so much that you miss in the film that they're able to provide in the commentary. so I love that. i love it.
00:37:20
Speaker
That's where you got to buy Blu-rays and DVDs to or Blu-rays, DVDs, 4Ks. I could only watch that on the DVD that I had. I couldn't really.
00:37:31
Speaker
There's a version on YouTube that's an hour and a half. So it has like gaps cut out because the movie is an hour 50. There's no way they would have 20 minutes of the movie. They're just not talking about.
00:37:41
Speaker
so the YouTube video doesn't fully sync up with the movie if you're trying to do that. But yeah, i I might just start falling asleep to fucking movie commentaries. I've been debating on it, like napping to movie commentaries.
00:37:57
Speaker
I mean, that ah ah can be considered ASMR because depending on the movie that they're covering, it could be soothing to you. It could be relaxing to fall asleep to.
00:38:09
Speaker
I will say, so After Killian, after Jim enters the church, he gets introduced to the first infected. It's this priest.
00:38:22
Speaker
They said the priest was the first actor who did any kind of infected performance on screen, so he is the one who they modeled the rest of them after, so good for him for being the guy to really set the tone for the...
00:38:39
Speaker
like physicality of these guys but Jim basically encounters his first infected ends up getting chased into the streets and these two people come out of nowhere start throwing Molotov cocktails lighting things on fire they grab him they blow up a fucking gas station which I watch and I'm like how could a movie of this size like the shot work goes wide and you see the explosion I'm like oh they're just showing you that this was real they actually did this I love how flat it looks too. We'll get into that a bit later.
00:39:16
Speaker
i love how when the explosion goes off, they're being shielded between the windows of another building. That's an awesome shot. And then they run.
00:39:28
Speaker
i mean, there are zombies that are on fire. It's pretty cool. But then they run... down into this like underground shopping center and into this like snack mart. And this is where the joke that I said at the beginning of the episode happens and we meet c Selena and Mark.
00:39:46
Speaker
I really like their character introduction. I don't think they needed to save Jim, but you know they wasted a lot of resources trying to save him, but maybe they felt like they needed and extra person.
00:39:59
Speaker
I mean, they did. do you prefer Jim? that I can't call him Jim. I know a Jim. Let's just call this guy Killian. Killian Murphy.
00:40:10
Speaker
Yes. so did Did you really want Killian to be off on his own? I didn't really like like Mark's character. i thought he was just a side character, obviously.
00:40:24
Speaker
Selina, she had some good qualities. She is very apathetic towards everything though because she knows everyone's ultimate fate is you're either going to survive, but you got to be, you know, you can't like show any emotion or get attached to anyone.
00:40:42
Speaker
Otherwise, they'll slow you down and then you'll die. I enjoy that a lot. You do? Yeah. I really enjoy how her and Mark are so hardened after just 28 days of this infection breaking out.
00:41:00
Speaker
But what I like, too, is that i mean they're hardened and different ways you you can tell they are only bonded through this trauma and they have no relationship outside of their bonding of this trauma for me personally the whole movie is selena i really like her turn from hardened to hopeful and loving in this makeshift family that she eventually finds herself in
00:41:33
Speaker
yeah When they um end up finding Frank and his daughter Hannah, you can see her slowly start to you know drop her guard a little bit.
00:41:48
Speaker
She is starting to see you know there are still some things you can hold to. I did like seeing that. i I liked the fact that she was softening up instead of just being a hard ass the entire film.
00:42:02
Speaker
And you would you mentioned Frank and Hannah. I don't know about you. I feel like this movie really starts fucking cooking, singing, all of it when those two enter this picture.
00:42:16
Speaker
ah ah We can kind of rush through everything a little bit and get to them as fast as we can if you want, but... Right when they enter, I mean, before we started recording, right when I got home, I put on the movie just to have it running in the background. I skipped right to when Frank walks up.
00:42:36
Speaker
Yeah, I like when they bring in Frank because you i mean you you nailed it right on the nose, basically calling him like a surrogate father.
00:42:47
Speaker
He pretty much was. You see that you know he's trying to be a little hospitable to these two. and i was just thinking, wow, he's being very nice to people. that Maybe he just you know wants to help them.
00:43:04
Speaker
But then they do get to that point where Selena had mentioned to Cillian Murphy that, you know, they need us more than we need them. Basically, him and his daughter are going to slow us down.
00:43:19
Speaker
But Brendan Gleeson actually does tell them that, you know, we need you more than you need us. I know i need to just make sure if something happens to me, my daughter's okay.
00:43:31
Speaker
And then I love how Hannah jumps in and was like, no, we all need each other. so i love their relationship and then what they bring to the entire group as a whole. I agree with you. they They bring some extra life in here. Yeah, man, I ah ah kind of got like chills hearing you talk about it and just thinking about this movie.
00:43:54
Speaker
But at the end of the day, i mean, yeah, it's a movie with zombies and intense violence. But I feel like at the end of the day, this movie is about your relationship our relationships that we have with other people, with the people within proximity of us. And i find it very beautiful what we choose to do with these relationships, how we choose to welcome or not welcome these people in.
00:44:24
Speaker
Like, It's just very beautiful. The movie, Kellyanne, when he's introduced to Selina and Mark, ah him wanting to go to the house to see his parents, ah him being devastated by their death, but them being like, hey, you had it easy. You didn't have to see what we saw. Mark saw his dad infected turned...
00:44:47
Speaker
turn ah ah within like a crowd at the airport mark said he was standing on something soft and like it was a body i was kind of thinking like was that your sister you were standing on it's like a very dark story but all of these people had these dark endings with the people that they were closest with and Killian kind of got a little bit of relief. And I i just like that this movie is about yeah the relationships we have with the people closest to us, whether it's physically or just you know spiritually, however you would want to phrase it.
00:45:25
Speaker
Yeah, I like that they were bringing that up to Killian too because obviously he's devastated that that um his parents passed away. they They took pills to you know kill themselves, right?
00:45:39
Speaker
Yeah, and I wish I remember the note that they wrote, but it's, like, so profoundly sad where it was, like, we are sleeping now.
00:45:51
Speaker
ah ah Something about, like, it's relating to him being in the coma and being asleep and them eternally sleeping and joining him. It's, like, the saddest thing.
00:46:02
Speaker
But honestly... If there were a crazy apocalypse, that would be the way I would probably want to find a loved one compared to so many other ways I could find them. Yeah, it said something like, we left you sleeping, and then you know now they're sleeping, and don't wake up, something along those lines.
00:46:22
Speaker
Damn. Yeah. That that was very that was those hard hard to read. When you said don't wake up, it like took my breath away for a second. When I read that, I'm like, they didn't write that. Yeah.
00:46:37
Speaker
No, don't don't do that to me. Wait, if they're dead, how could they have written that? Someone been so so well mustve put that there. I know.
00:46:48
Speaker
and But yeah, that was that was very sad to watch. And then again, obviously he's hurting by it and it's not for them to kind of, you know...
Emotional Turns and Character Development
00:47:03
Speaker
say all your feelings of losing your parents are unjustified they're at least saying you know at least they didn't suffer the way our family did which yes if you're gonna end up ultimately having to die i would much rather a loved one die loved the one die peacefully than be infected by rage and then just basically lose their soul Yeah, because right after we see the parents committing the that the parents had committed suicide, i mean, the next example we get of death or any kind of interaction with an infected is Kellyanne Murphy.
00:47:47
Speaker
It's just a light from a candle alerts them. I love the like view from the house outside. I didn't notice that shot until this movie. It's like so quick. but You see the candlelight through the outside.
00:47:59
Speaker
And these zombies just, they're like old neighbors. They come bursting through and basically bite Mark in the confrontation and he has to get chopped up by Selena.
00:48:14
Speaker
One thing, the 28 movies, I feel like kind of allude to this, but So this is somewhat my justification a little bit for the zombies not running rampant, but so this has been going on for 28 days.
00:48:31
Speaker
He says those are his neighbors from like four houses down or something like that. Part of me gets the idea that the zombies go fucking buck wild and then when they don't see anything to attack or nothing alarms them, they are either sprinting in a pack or they are standing still, not doing anything, just existing.
00:48:59
Speaker
And part of me was like, were they just fucking in the neighborhood, just standing there? Then they heard some shit, started investigating. They saw the light.
00:49:10
Speaker
It's just the the behavior of these things. They don't fully get into. I feel like 28 years is really going to get into that.
00:49:21
Speaker
But I find it pretty interesting. They seem like they run in packs or they lie dormant, kind of. Yeah, in typical movies, you either have the very slow, dumb zombies that can barely move,
00:49:39
Speaker
and or i'm sorry or you have the fucking crazed zombies that can hear the slightest sound being made, and then they just full-on sprint to you and then just go crazy on you.
00:49:56
Speaker
so Seeing that like a mixture of both of those behaviors in here did take me by surprise because when they were showing that point of view outside where Cillian Murphy has the candle lit, I didn't know why they were doing that until the camera just started zooming in.
00:50:16
Speaker
So then I was like, oh, shit, you know, they're about to get attacked. So, yeah, that was a little confusing to me. And I really love how after c Selena... I mean, she quickly chops up Mark, and it's aggressive. It's with a machete. She gets his arm off first and then really starts laying into him.
00:50:34
Speaker
But I like how she very like she's keeping it together, but it sounds like she wants to cry almost. She's like... we have to go there.
00:50:45
Speaker
More will come. Then she's like stops. And she's like, they always come or something like that. And she sounds like she's fucking sick of it. She's been here, done that.
00:50:56
Speaker
And then we go off to them walking. This is a little bit before they get in the chase and meet Brendan Gleeson. But they have this conversation. i really fucking love the conversations in this movie. It's a movie, a horror movie where every bit of dialogue feels important.
00:51:14
Speaker
And like it was it needed to be on the page. And they're talking about. how, and like, dreams. And Selena's like, Mark is someone who had dreams. He was a big dreamer. And she was like, are you a dreamer, Jim?
00:51:29
Speaker
do you dream of finding a cure and saving everybody, or do you just want to fall in love and fuck? And I was like, God, yeah, Selena, like...
00:51:41
Speaker
Fuck yeah. I like could really feel her in that moment, her frustration with this whole thing. like God, what who ah her being like, who the fuck are you, Jim? What's your deal?
00:51:54
Speaker
i mean, she finds out and then she ends up you know choosing the second dream for herself. so she it sounds like she becomes a dreamer too at some point.
00:52:08
Speaker
so yeah Then basically after that, we get a whole chase. What did you think of the chase as they were going up to the apartment? I love that they use Christmas lights actually to signal.
00:52:22
Speaker
Honestly, I hated that part. I hated that so much. What part? Christmas lights? Yes. It's like, come on. this is a horror movie. Let's not bring Christmas into this shit.
00:52:35
Speaker
It was so perfect. They're playing like Frosty the snowman, which they said in the commentary that was the most expensive part of the movie. But I felt like it added such a nice atmosphere to the apartment when they first get in there after this chaotic scene. It's just Christmas lights flashing and Frosty playing.
00:52:56
Speaker
When they unplug the lights, I actually got kind of bummed. i was like, wait, no, leave them on. Come on, Brendan. I mean, i do, i guess I can appreciate them, you know, having the Christmas lights and playing that song just because in that moment, you know, Selena and Killian Murphy, they feel like, you know, they found a little bit of hope with these two people.
00:53:23
Speaker
And i mean, they end up not being assholes to them. They are genuinely trying to join forces. That way they can get to their, their destination to just get out of the whole city in general.
00:53:37
Speaker
So there was some charm to that scene, but still let's not talk about Christmas here. I mean, ah Killian needed a little bit of Christmas, I think, because...
00:53:50
Speaker
Brendan, if Brendan Gleeson's character Frank didn't come in, think ah Killian Murphy dies in that moment. I don't think Selina goes back to save him. i think he gets eaten or brutalized in that stairwell right then and there.
00:54:09
Speaker
So, mean, little Christmas. Yeah, she was full on. She was full on leaving his ass. But at the same time, while he just kept saying, like, whatever, like, wait for me or whatever he was yelling to her.
00:54:26
Speaker
i was at the same time i was just like dude shut the fuck up like stop talking stop bitching just start running that adrenaline should be pumping in you right now just to you know fight for your life right here so but honestly if i have to run up the stairs just got out of a coma though i know i know the poor guy he he needs actual food and is you know struggling, recovering from a head injury as well.
00:54:53
Speaker
And running up the stairs, that's no joke. I fall going up the stairs. a lot of times people make fun of me and are just like, how do you fall going up the stairs?
00:55:04
Speaker
Motherfucker, you slip on a stair and you fall. It happens. It does not only happen to me. But anyway, he that's a hard task to do. oh It happens.
00:55:16
Speaker
A lot. I feel like it happens more than falling down stairs, honestly. Right, exactly. Everyone that I would tell that to, they would just look at me so weird.
00:55:27
Speaker
it happens. You're like tripping up the stairs as opposed to falling up. You know what I mean? Yeah. People... are just getting hung up on the word fall or falling up the stairs.
00:55:42
Speaker
ah ah i don't know. Again, this is another case of other people being wrong. I agree. i agree with that.
00:55:52
Speaker
But I mean, yeah, if I was in this guy's situation, I ah ah probably would have been killed too or killed. He didn't get killed because i would not have made it all the way up the stairs.
00:56:05
Speaker
i wouldn't have been screaming like him, but I wouldn't have made it up the stairs. i don't think I would have. I feel so bad for him when I watch that scene. I'm just like, oh my God, when he's screaming, like, Selena, wait. I'm like, wait for him, Selena. Fight off the infected. But the that's the difference between people in this movie and a lot of other zombie movies.
00:56:28
Speaker
These people don't really seem like they have any interest in duking it out with any of these people. They're trying to get away. But Brendan Gleeson, Frank, he's smart with having that riot gear.
00:56:40
Speaker
I've always thought in a zombie apocalypse, like if I could get my hands on like a knight's armor, you know, I would break into like a museum and put on knight's armor or something. I wonder if that would protect me.
00:56:54
Speaker
It's funny because i remember in high school, why I'm referencing high school a lot, but I remember one time i was in gym and we were, you know how we would just walk around the field house all the time for gym?
00:57:08
Speaker
When I was in there, I was talking to a few of my buddies and then they were saying, where would you go in a zombie apocalypse? And one of my friends, he said, oh, I would go to let's say Billy butcherson Butcherson's house because he has all of these pistols, all of these firearms. like He started naming all of them. I don't remember what they were.
00:57:34
Speaker
But i was like, you know what? You're right because he was trying to show me a little bit about that before. And I was like, okay, I have a plan. So i think everyone should have some type of plan set in place if a zombie apocalypse happens.
00:57:50
Speaker
I agree. you know Don't you kind of welcome it sometimes? You're ready for it. I'm actually not ready for it. I would hate to have to live in a zombie apocalypse.
00:58:01
Speaker
That would be pretty awful, especially fast-running zombies. One, I'm terrible at running. i know I said i run just so I can make sure my cardio is good for if I'm getting chased by a zombie, but it's still bad.
00:58:15
Speaker
I run very slowly. And also, i was watching this thinking i would be so fucked if I was in a situation like that because I need ah bathroom.
00:58:28
Speaker
I am a girl. i am... I don't think I'm a girly girl, but I'm a girly girl when it comes to the fucking bathroom. No, that's not enough. of This is why I haven't gone camping in years because I need an actual bathroom.
00:58:47
Speaker
I really do. even Frank says it right there. I mean, Killian was trying to shave, which i thought he didn't have to. He could have just shaved his head the way he did, but he didn't have to fucking in shave, actually.
00:59:00
Speaker
But yeah, i I would not survive just on that alone. I need a bathroom. Nope, not for me. and Frank came in. Frank was like, oh, you know, there's no running water, but there's a bucket. You toss it out the window every morning. I know that was Australian, but still.
00:59:17
Speaker
At least you're trying. You're trying your hardest here. Yeah, it's just the low grumble. I can't do it not in an Australian accent.
00:59:28
Speaker
But ah ah sorry to any English listeners that we may have. But yeah, they have a bucket. You throw it off the ledge or whatever every day.
00:59:39
Speaker
So there you go. and No, I would hate that. That would suck. At least it's only two of them, so it's pretty manageable. When you get to four, that's when they're like... we All right, so I know of an escape you know place, there's a cure. That's when you start looking for cures, when you got four people shitting in a bucket.
00:59:58
Speaker
You're like, all right, can we like bring an end to this? Save humanity now? Yes, especially because females have periods, and you know they do have to worry about that too.
01:00:09
Speaker
so i would not survive in a zombie apocalypse just for the sole fact that I need a fucking bathroom with running water. Are you implying the period blood is going to attract zombies, Mercedes?
01:00:23
Speaker
No, I'm just saying those that requires supplies that you need to go out of your way for to make sure you're stocked up on and If you don't, you're kind of fucked and just going to be very uncomfortable. Yeah.
01:00:39
Speaker
I don't know. It's zombie pot. You're telling me you can't just throw a sponge in there or something? You're a guy. You're not going to understand this. Shut up Let's continue on with the movie. Gold. Everybody's going love hearing that.
01:00:53
Speaker
Yeah, probably. Probably. Anyway, next scene here. all right, so Brendan Gleeson, loving family, him and Hannah. Yeah, I love these two characters. This is where the movie goes from four to five stars for me, I think, having Frank and Hannah in there.
01:01:13
Speaker
They quickly, like the next day, Frank shows them this radio frequency that's coming through. One thing I really love about the camera work is how...
01:01:26
Speaker
You're getting all these big shots of this city, but everything looks so flat. It, in a way, makes such a big world feel so small, and it feels like it's just these characters in this big city that I love that.
01:01:44
Speaker
i love the split diopter shots, which is when you have something in the foreground and the background, both in focus. There's a lot of that when they're outside. You'll have Brendan Gleeson, you know, twisting or like cranking up the radio thing, whatever he's doing, trying to get a signal.
01:02:02
Speaker
And the shot of the city in the background will also be in like perfect focus. It again does a good job of making such a big city feel so small and like it's just these characters. But yeah, they find this radio frequency and decide that they are going to go looking for it. Frank is a cab driver, so he has knowledge of the city routes. I really enjoyed that.
01:02:29
Speaker
Did you like that? It seemed like that got a reaction out of you. I did just because i like you know the little joke he says, i i don't i don't take cards or whatever he said. so He's trying to at least you know keep some humor, some ah ah uplifting moments in there. Not really uplifting, but still.
01:02:51
Speaker
but Then the part where they- Brings levity to the situation. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They get to the part where they're in the tunnel and his dumb ass fucking just drives over the pile of cars, bodies, everything that's in this fucking tunnel.
01:03:11
Speaker
Oh my God, that was such a bad decision to do because i didn't even really think like, oh, you're going to get a flat tire. i was like, you're going to fuck up everything underneath your car. Why would you do that?
01:03:25
Speaker
And then they got a flat tire. So he deserved that one. That part, from a like writing perspective, feels like it's the most manufactured part of the whole movie.
01:03:37
Speaker
They created a situation to bring in a bit more excitement. They hadn't had a zombie moment for a while. It's going to be a little while before we see another zombie really pop up in an effective and meaningful way.
01:03:53
Speaker
So it seemed like a way to get some zombie action in there. I like how Frank is kind of reckless. It's the only way they can really get over this barrier. That's at least my understanding.
01:04:06
Speaker
They can't really go around it. And Frank is making the most of it. But I do like how quickly they change that flat. It seems like maybe an unrealistic amount of time. I've changed a flat and it takes a while.
01:04:21
Speaker
but You know, older car, maybe it was a bit easier. i realistically, I think they're most certainly dead in that moment, but it's still pretty exciting. It is, and I love that Hannah is the one that's changing the tire, not him. so i thought though He's picking up the car. Yeah, yeah. he's He's doing all the heavy lifting there while she's you know being speedy Gonzalez getting that tire switched.
01:04:49
Speaker
was a cute detail that they added there because imagine if none of them knew how to change a tire. Imagine if they didn't have a spare tire. They really would have been fucked at that point.
01:05:00
Speaker
Yeah, they just got to square up with these fucking zombies. And again, these ones don't seem like ones you can really fight off. Even the Dawn of the Dead fast-running zombies, I mean, those seem pretty impossible too.
01:05:16
Speaker
But there's something about the 28 Days and Weeks Later zombies that feel like almost touching them is going to get you infected or just getting within arm's reach, they're going to brutalize you.
01:05:30
Speaker
yeah I feel like it's it's also because they use the word infected a lot. I know other zombie films do too, but they usually say, I've been bitten.
01:05:44
Speaker
But in here, they only say infected, least as far as I can remember. so I think with that, it kind of makes it feel like... more severe where you know as soon as you touch them i'm infected ooh i have cooties essentially so i mean that's what i was getting out from it it does need to be body fluids and they do like mention the word bite ah ah when mark get before he dies selena asked him were you bitten she asked him a couple times were you bitten
01:06:21
Speaker
But it what separates the two, because I guess they're not technically zombies, because zombies, you would have to be dead in some way, I think. And these people aren't undead. They're just like a host for some type of parasite or, yeah, infected. They're just very, very incredibly sick people to the most extreme degree.
01:06:49
Speaker
After all of this, we get one of my favorite sequences in the whole movie, which is the fantasy shopping sequence, where it feels like they step into a whole other world. and it To me, fully becomes like a fantasy movie. and I really just love it. I love the music that's being played. It's called... like AM 180 by Granddaddy, I think, is the song.
01:07:22
Speaker
But it's so pleasant and nice. did you Did you have any thoughts on the shopping sequence? For some reason, while I was watching it, I was like, I can see Mercedes hating this maybe. I liked it because all four of them had their own carts. They weren't you know trying to be resourceful. We only need this or this or this.
01:07:44
Speaker
There was one part where Brendan Gleeson takes whatever bottle Cillian Murphy had. of alcohol and was like, we can't take just anything. So I thought that was a point where he was trying to be resourceful. But then he pulls out more of an expensive bottle of alcohol. I don't even know what it was. And then they show him grabbing like three or four of them.
01:08:07
Speaker
So were all having fun in that scene. And then once they're all leaving, Brendan Gleeson leaves his credit card by the cash cash register.
01:08:19
Speaker
That was so cute on his part. It is. it really... There was... That's another... Because I never... Sometimes I try to watch these movies through your eyes sometimes if it's one that I'm a bit more familiar with.
01:08:33
Speaker
And that's a moment too. I would refer to it as cute, but sometimes I'll call things cute in a derogatory way. But that's cute in a way that I really enjoyed. It's a nice... button on that moment because it's going to continue to get a little darker from there. But I loved how much of a bonding moment that was. You really see Selina let her walls down. She's like...
01:08:59
Speaker
I could she was saying something about how she would be fine if she never had chocolate again. Then she sees like chocolate covered oranges or something and gets excited. It's a really sweet moment. Yeah, it's probably my favorite part of the whole movie.
01:09:16
Speaker
Yes, that was cute altogether. i actually did enjoy that scene. i feel like people don't expect me to like, here comes Evie again, needing to make her her presence known.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yes, I feel like people are always expecting me to not like scenes like that, but that one- I did enjoy. It was cool. I think my dog enjoyed it too, or she was sleeping during it.
01:09:42
Speaker
It is something you could fall asleep to. It's pretty relaxing. It's very nice. I think a lot of issues some people have with this movie are when they do break what would be quote-unquote rules of our reality, where like the opening, there not being bodies in the streets, or how come this store is completely untouched and it's perfect.
01:10:06
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You just kind of got to buy into it because shortly after that, while the music is playing again, one of my favorite shots, just the shit they do. They're driving by in front of a field of flowers. And I don't know if it's like a matte painting or an oil painting, that whole field.
01:10:23
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But it looks so cool, especially with the quality of the camera not being the greatest and again to speaking like the camera quality later on after that you get them driving and i forgot what city it is that's on fire but the camera is like slowly panning up and you just see like a pixelated city on fire and it looks so real it looks like they actually burnt down a city
01:10:55
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Yeah, that was that was intense to see because i was thinking, wait, is that where they needed to go Now what are they going to do? But yeah, just seeing them still just being that solitary car on the road and then the fire is burning up the entire city in front of them.
01:11:16
Speaker
Just imagine seeing that. The only thing that I can kind of reference that to was my husband and I, when we went to California, we were by the ocean. And normally when, since we're in Chicago, if we go downtown and we're by Lake Michigan, you know, we know that there's an ending that.
01:11:38
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To the lake right there. When you're in California and you're looking at the ocean, there is nothing out there. Yeah, you're looking at the horizon. You're looking at the end of the world, basically.
01:11:50
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So basically, right after this, they stopped to get gas and There's a scene where Killian Murphy goes in. This is where he's kind of behaving like a child and he makes the aunt comment I was talking about earlier.
01:12:03
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But then he goes in and has a confrontation with a kid. I don't really know what to make of the kid saying, I hate you or him thinking he hears the kid saying, I hate you. Did you have any kind of a read or takeaway from him killing that kid?
01:12:17
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It does change him. He has a conversation with Christopher Eccleston's character later on when he asks him who he's killed, and he says ah ah a child or a boy.
Military Base and New Threats
01:12:28
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and it seems like this is the turning point for him as a character where he kind of stops being that little baby.
01:12:37
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I think this is also before or after he calls Frank dad, which is a really sweet moment too. So we're kind of seeing him him grow as a character right after we see Selina put down her walls.
01:12:51
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Now it's time for Jim to grow a little bit. Yeah, when I heard I Hate You, i got so confused because i was thinking, do these things talk still? Are they able to comprehend shit? That is the question these movies ask. like How much humanity are these things retaining? and Again, they flirt with these concepts. I feel like 28 years is going to really get into this stuff more.
01:13:19
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Because, again, they're not dead. so What happens... 28 years later. Right. No, that i hope they answer that because none of the other people who are infected talk in here, just this one kid.
01:13:35
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so and i actually do like that it was a kid that ended up being Killian's a turning point that he had to kill off.
01:13:46
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Not because it was a kid, but going along with what you said, you know, that's the point where he kind of grows up and is finally, you know, okay I have to stop acting childish here and, you know, fully embrace the fact that, you know, i have to help.
01:14:03
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or you know protect myself while also helping these other people that I'm starting to grow attached to and yeah you could see his whole demeanor changes obviously once he leaves and yeah little by little you see him trying to become you know more of a manly figure in here compared to how he started Yeah, with him, also, like, for the I hate you moment, too, I haven't fully always known how to how to read that.
01:14:38
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At this point, I kind of take it as Killian Murphy's character just projecting that onto to this creature. Like... him still viewing this kid as a human and trying to put reasoning in his head to like, okay, what is this like nonverbal aggressive kid trying do?
01:15:04
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communicate to me in this moment of rage. That was at least kind of what I was reading in that moment. But I really don't know what the correct read on it is. Shortly after that, we end up at the like base, the location that the signal was telling him to go to.
01:15:23
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And it's pretty desolate. Frank is upset. And this is one of my favorite zombie or like deaths in a zombie movie frank is frustrated he snaps like he's like they say we should go frank and he's like go where and then he storms off and he sees a crow picking at a dead body and what does he say does he say leave it or get off of it get off it
01:15:55
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Get off it. Get off it. And then he starts, like, kicks or shakes whatever fence to get it away. And a drop of blood falls in his eye.
01:16:07
Speaker
It's fucking unfortunate. It's just one of those things where every time I watch it, like, Yeah, it's just like, damn, you hate to see it happen.
01:16:18
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You kind of know watching the movie, you if especially if you know where the movie goes, you understand why they kill Frank. I don't think Frank is a character you can have around for the last act, given what they do with it.
01:16:32
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It seems pretty intense, and I don't think he would make it out of that last act alive. So this is a very appropriate send-off for him. It's very well done. It's so sad and unfortunate.
01:16:46
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But one of my favorite parts is thinking about it from the perspective of Hannah, Selina, and Jim. to them frank was just like go where he has a fucking outburst walks off comes back says hannah i love you i'm sorry about that get away from me and just turns into a zombie and then selena is like what the fuck jim walks around the corner selena's like kill him
01:17:18
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Oh my God. Just Naomi Harris is acting the fucking shit out of this scene. That's what I love about this cast. They would all go on to do great things, but they're in this movie early in their careers.
01:17:32
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Fucking. given it their all and that scene is so tragic in so many ways oh man it's heartbreaking and it's great one of the most effective parts of this whole movie I hated that scene so much. It made me so sad, so upset.
01:17:55
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i get why they had to kill him off, but that was so fucked up to watch. And then at the same time, I was thinking, if I was in that situation, that probably would have happened to me because dumb shit happens to me all the time. The most unfortunate things happen to me.
01:18:16
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so Let's hope that doesn't happen to me. I would hope so. i Or hope not, I should say. You would hope so, damn.
01:18:26
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Okay. Now I see how you really feel. I hope nothing like that happens to you in a zombie apocalypse. i It reminded me of a situation I was in at a summer job. I was kicking ah ah little fence and then a wasp came out and stung me.
01:18:42
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came out of like a hole in the fence and stung me. I was like, oh. Yeah, I couldn't have guessed that was going to happen. And Frank was in that same situation.
01:18:54
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man. It's effective. it's It's beautifully tragic. But then the military come in and they light up zombie Frank and Hannah's like, Dad?
01:19:06
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Dad? And it's like, hey, to break it to you, kid. h Brendan Gleeson's dead. He ain't your daddy anymore. Poor kid, poor kid.
01:19:16
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And then in that moment, like when Selena's trying to just, you know, kind of console Hannah at that point or just not console her, but make sure she doesn't go off to her dad because she knows he's infected.
01:19:33
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You see her not becoming like not a surrogate mother type, but you see her just becoming more of a protector for her. So that is also helping to break c Selena's outer shell as well.
01:19:48
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Yeah, they kind of become adoptive parents. And that's one of my favorite elements of zombie movies are the makeshift families. Dawn of the Dead is a big example of that.
01:19:58
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But I love it the most in this movie, the makeshift family that they create in this. They'll go on to do it and you'll see 28 weeks. It's just a big trope of the zombie family.
01:20:11
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series but this movie does it like no other. It feels like these characters really do care about each other. Yeah, I agree. i was thinking of, I know it's a comedy film, Zombieland.
01:20:27
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though That was a cool movie to watch. I did enjoy it. Hell yeah. But their... they're like what What did you call it? The family?
01:20:39
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There was the term and then you said family. What was that? Oh, the makeshift family. Makeshift family, yeah. So the makeshift family and there you basically have...
01:20:50
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similar characters. You have the oldest male, you have the two that are going to be a couple, and then you have the youngest female. This one, just the actual family ties was between Emma Stone and then the girl who plays her sister. I don't know her actual name. I think it's Abigail something.
01:21:11
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Their little family they had going on, it was okay. I think I just liked them all as individual characters, whereas here, i like the youome the family ties that they are all building in this film, probably because they're all sharing trauma and you can actually feel it more compared to how Zombieland is more of a comedy movie, obviously.
01:21:38
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I've never realized up until this point, and you nailed it right there. Zombieland is doing the 28 days later thing. It's the exact same dynamic. Jesse Eisenberg is like idolizing Tallahassee is like this father figure. Killian Murphy is not really idolizing Brendan Gleeson, but they're doing very similar things just in a slightly different way. Yeah.
01:22:06
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Man, you kind of nailed it. it is Zombieland is the 28 Days Later parallel just without the coma, really. Our lead knows what he's doing instead of not knowing what he's doing.
01:22:19
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Have you seen Zombieland 2, Double Tap? I did see it. i wasn't a fan of it. I liked the first one more. I haven't seen Double Tap. We'll have to cover those two. I didn't even really consider them. I'm sure they're on our list, but those would be interesting to talk about.
01:22:35
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Zombieland's so popular. I've seen it too many times at the time when it came out, and I've greatly distanced myself from that movie, similar to like Elf, just very overwatched movies.
01:22:49
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so ah ah It would be interesting to revisit that one. So this is where we get to the final part of the movie and we get introduced to a character who I somehow always forget is in this movie. It's a doctor who himself fucking Christopher Eccleston Mercedes. You would you're a doctor who fan.
01:23:12
Speaker
I tried to watch it and- Nerd. Only because i was told to watch it I did not enjoy Nerd. I didn't finish it, so you can't really call me that. You can call me a nerd in other contexts, but not regarding Doctor Who because I couldn't watch it and then me like weeny hu You Hut Jr. before.
01:23:36
Speaker
Well, you deserve that. and When I call you something, just it's playful. When you insult me, it's hurtful. I feel that straight in my heart. It's like a stab in the gut or a knife in the gut.
01:23:49
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so It's different. What the listeners don't know is we had the same conversation off mic and I didn't call you a nerd. I know. but Now we're here. The mics are on.
01:24:01
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He has to upstage me with his amazing vocabulary and then just always prove me wrong on every point. And then now just it's so bogus.
01:24:14
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You can't make me feel bad for the person that I am. i just I talk the way I talk. I. You make me feel bad for the person that I am. and don't try to.
01:24:25
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It's okay. No, you don't. Calling you a nerd? I was just kidding. No, I don't care. here I don't care. but No, it it was funny because I forgot Christopher Eccleston was in Doctor Who. My brain...
01:24:40
Speaker
was thinking man why does this guy play an asshole and everything he's in even though i was only kind of does right i was only referring to one other film that i saw him in which was gone in 60 seconds plays such a dick in there so once he turns around and shows his true colors in here man i knew i didn't like this guy for a reason He's a priest in this TV show that I really liked called The Leftovers that listeners, if you have HBO, I encourage you to check out. It has 28 Days Later vibes, except without being zombies.
01:25:19
Speaker
But he's really good in that. And if I remember correctly, he's kind of an asshole priest. He's kind of an asshole in True Detective Season 4. He's an asshole in Thor The Dark World. He's...
01:25:32
Speaker
Malekith, the dark elf. I mean, you can't be a dark elf without being an asshole. Yeah, I mean, the guy is just... He understands the assignment when he gets all of these roles. They probably cast him for that.
01:25:46
Speaker
Yeah, and man, he he's a fucking major asshole in this one, almost literally. If his name were asshole, he would be major asshole because he's like a major in the British military or something like that.
01:26:01
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But he essentially brings them all in He reveals to Killian that he's his cure is he has a zombie chained up in the back. And this is kind of where we get the explanation for everything.
01:26:17
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They're trying to see how long it takes a zombie to starve. And we really determined by the end of the movie, it's where we get the title, Not only are we starting the story 28 days into it, but it takes 28 days for the zombies to starve to death.
01:26:34
Speaker
At least that's the idea. i have no idea what 28 years later is going to do to this, the idea of these zombies. I kind of have a theory that maybe they're going to become a part of the earth in some way. I don't know. I feel like they're going go so sci-fi.
01:26:50
Speaker
Have you seen Annihilation, and the Alex Garland directed film? He's the writer of this movie. Is Natalie Portman in it? Yes. i saw a trailer of it, and I was going to watch it, but I never got around to it. I just rewatched it a couple days ago, and I fucking i loved it more than I've ever loved it. e I'm a huge fan of Alex Garland. I'm surprised I haven't really talked about him that much on the episode.
01:27:17
Speaker
Ex Machina, Annihilation. Civil War didn't sit too well with me. I like it less than other people. I didn't see Men. And Warfare, i actually fucking loved. I have a pretty like good takeaway from that movie, but we don't need to get into that.
01:27:34
Speaker
Alex Garland wrote and directed Annihilation. i fucking love that movie. Great sci-fi horror. If you're into just really weird sci-fi horror, a female-led cast.
01:27:46
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Oscar Isaac looking like a snack sometimes, even though he was, like, ill throughout the whole movie. um It's fantastic. And I...
01:27:57
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I kind of have a feeling 28 years later is going to pull be pulling a little bit from Annihilation. I feel like we're going to see some Annihilation influence.
01:28:08
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And if you see that movie, you'll kind of know what I'm talking about when I say I feel like the zombies are going to like become a part of the earth or become a part of nature. I'm just thinking natural life process 28 after this event.
01:28:24
Speaker
and we'll see if the speculation pays off by the time we see the movie this i'm so excited to fucking see this shit oh man but 28 days so yeah it's the reveal of the zombie and how did all of this make you feel this whole set piece because i have thoughts i'll get into but i want to hear you It kind of pissed me off because they had this false hope thinking, okay, there's a cure for everyone who is infected
01:28:57
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and Before they and ultimately show, you know, it was just them basically, you know, doing an experiment to see how long it takes for a zombie to starve.
01:29:13
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or At first, I was just thinking, that's going to suck if there is a cure, and they just fucking... took long to show up there, and then the dad ends up getting infected and dies.
01:29:26
Speaker
So that they could have saved him, but again, I know why he didn't need to be there. So for them to have that false hope and then all of that is just basically...
01:29:38
Speaker
destroyed it doesn't even they don't have like a full-on solution was such a shitty thing but then how it just turns darker because um um christopher eccleson ends up saying you know so what i was saying earlier he promised his men women, that just really, like I said, freaked me out because, you know, they're over here worrying about becoming infected, whereas there's another a big issue that they have to face now, a bigger danger, because these people who are human, you know, they...
01:30:20
Speaker
Nothing has happened to them. They're not infected yet. They are the ones they have to be afraid of now because they're basically going to be taken advantage of as women. I fucking hated that part. That whole scene just made this movie even darker. Yeah, these guys are like macho bro type of people. They take hunting or killing the infected as ah ah sport, basically.
01:30:46
Speaker
This is the section of the movie that I have struggled with the most over the years. And it's the section that has kind of held me back for a while from fully putting it up there as one of my favorite movies.
01:31:03
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It, for a while, never sat well with me that ah just how dark it gets. You're watching an infection and these zombies really brutalize people, but the darkest part of this movie is they're, these military guys are talking about drugging and raping this child and this woman just because they want to repopulate the world, basically. That's like what they were, put we
Survival Instincts and Justice
01:31:34
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repopulation. We have women now and it's,
01:31:38
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somehow yeah darker than the zombies could ever get and it feels nasty and mean and in a way depraved when they're bringing killian murphy out to the forest and they're going to kill him and he has to basically turn into an infected and bring out that primal side of him in order to survive I found it pretty challenging, but it's something I've come around to recently, but ah ah it's still when after Frank dies, i start to go into dread as opposed to I'm really enjoying the ride I'm on.
01:32:21
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Yeah, that whole ending, it was just not what I was anticipating at all because... I'm just thinking, how is it going to spin around back to the, you know, the infected?
01:32:39
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So the whole movie, I'm just, you know, anxious about them getting infected. And now I'm just anxious about them getting out of what they thought was going to be their salvation.
01:32:51
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yeah. I also thought too Killian was going to get infected because when who who shot off rounds when they were in the when they were about to kill him off because someone shot.
01:33:07
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Didn't they shoot the other guy, the sergeant or whoever that was there? Yeah, they shot the other guy who kind of was standing in their way from sexually assaulting these women.
01:33:18
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And then the two soldiers kind of get in some kind of argument, I think is what happens, and Killian runs away. Yeah, he he runs away, and he was able to make it over their barbed wire wall.
01:33:36
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But when he... He tried to hide in the bodies of people that they were that they had already killed. He has cuts on his head. so I'm thinking, okay, wouldn't he have gotten infected there? I'm pretty sure these people all have blood. Well, they weren't infected.
01:33:54
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Probably. Never mind. Let me take that all back. But yeah, he was able to escape and then make his way back to the house where... uh selena and hannah you know they're the men are trying to get them dressed up which i thought was even more disgusting she's trying to give hannah pills that way she doesn't like feel everything that's about to happen and i love how she is hannah is talking like yeah you're gonna die
01:34:27
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Like, it's okay. I'm fine. That whole scene, that little monologue she was doing, i i i thought that was a good touch here. Yeah, and Killian even asks her, like, are you high at one point?
01:34:40
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Yeah, yeah. That part was funny. When he actually is able to come back and he starts killing off everybody and then how does their one zombie get unchained?
01:34:54
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The one that they were just kind of observing? Killian lets him out, I'm pretty sure. then that zombie infects one other guy, the guy who had like the funny like winter hat on, I think. And then it's two of them just fucking running amok, man.
01:35:13
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it It is pretty intense the way those soldiers get killed. They seem like they're more afraid than anyone else. Like the one soldier who's in the corner and is like, I don't have any bullets.
01:35:24
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Or he says it British. He's like... I don't have any bullets. I'm not going to. I'm to cut that out. At least you're trying. He says says, I don't have any bullets.
01:35:36
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And then the zombie comes in and rips him apart as Killian's getting out the window. The one guy who comes in and tries to shoot him, but another zombie comes from the side and his scream, he's, oh man.
01:35:51
Speaker
These guys all went out like fucking bitches. And It's pretty appropriate. It feels like justice in a way. Yeah, I was laughing at how all of them were getting killed.
01:36:04
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and This ultimately shows Killian becoming... this is going to sound bad, but like more of a man compared to how he started in the film.
01:36:16
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When he is able to get in the room where Selena and the one guy who was just, you know, kind of guarding her. he is able to fight him throughout the whole movie. he Killian's getting his ass beat by everybody.
01:36:33
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But in this part, his shirt was caught on the barbed wire, so he was shirtless. But that just shows him kind of more as a predator here. He's able to grab the one soldier again,
01:36:47
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again He's able to kill him by sticking his thumbs in his eyeballs or his eye sockets. so More eyeballs, yay.
01:36:58
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we Not that long ago, we were watching faces getting ripped off and terrifier and chainsaws going up assholes. That was hard to watch too. I had to look away from the camera or from the camera, from the TV sometimes.
Film's Conclusion and Reflection
01:37:13
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that We have talked about on mic actually, there's eye stuff aplenty in those terrifier movies. Which I hate. I'm pretty sure I said that too. Why why does everything have to revolve around an eyeball?
01:37:27
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Yeah, I don't get it. think I'm just traumatized by the eye stuff, honestly. For some reason, when I was... um No, I agree.
01:37:38
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It bothers me, too. Yeah, but I have a weird reason. When I was little, my brother would poke my eye all the time. would just randomly poke my eye.
01:37:49
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and I guess he liked the feeling of my eyelashes, but yeah i that's probably why I don't like eye shit. It just brings me back to those days where I was bullied.
01:38:00
Speaker
Sounds like it's your turn to get revenge and poke his eye back now that you're bigger. Yes, I'm stronger. Let's go. Exactly. Punch him in the eye. kidding.
01:38:12
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Don't punch people. What did you think of Christopher Eccleston's death before we get to the end of the film? Oh, yeah. he He's in the car and Hannah just starts driving.
01:38:24
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Well, he shoots Killian first. Oh, shit. That's right. forgot he shot him. I always forget that he shoots him. Yeah, I forgot it too. Oh my god, I was so scared scared because I thought Killian was going to die like right then and there.
01:38:39
Speaker
But yeah, Hannah starts driving off and i'm like, what the fuck are you doing? But then the way she swerves is kind of like how she swerved when they were all getting the gas. But she just breaks and then the infected zombie, he just breaks through the...
01:38:57
Speaker
the back window and grabs Eccleston out of the car and just goes to town on him. That was well-deserved. I didn't expect him to go out that way, but that was well-deserved.
01:39:12
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yeah Yeah, you love to see it happen, actually. i i didn't make that connection that her doing that car trick when they were filling up gas was kind of setting up her doing the same thing to kill Christopher Eccleston.
01:39:26
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That's a good catch that I've never noticed before. Thanks for putting that in my head. That's something I can now pay attention to. No problem. Afterwards, they end I don't know if they take Killian Murphy to a hospital, but they patch him up, they get him all good, and then we get the title for a second time. 28 Days Later... dot dot i think it has the ellipses at the end of it.
01:39:51
Speaker
But... Yeah, they kind of give you the idea that Killian was in a coma again. i don't think that's actually what happens, but he wakes up this time. No curtains. He points that out. He's like, oh, even the curtains are gone.
01:40:06
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c Selena and Hannah Selena's sewing together curtains to make a little sign. A plane flies overhead, which... This is the second plane they see.
01:40:19
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I'm surprised I didn't call this out, but one thing I love about this series is this infection is only in the United Kingdom. It's nowhere else in the world. At least, like as far as we know, it has not spread outside of the UK.
01:40:35
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So that's like a really cool detail that the world outside of the UK is going on. There's a plane in the sky. A commercial plane is flying over the UK. People are just fine. It's only here.
01:40:47
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I love that little detail. And a jet flies overhead. They're spelling out the words hello, which help seems a bit easier, but I get it. They want to go uplifting.
01:40:59
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Yeah, you agree. I do agree because I was like, why the fuck wouldn't they say help? but that That's what I thought they were trying to do in the first place. and Then hello. Oh, my God. i No, help would have been so much better.
01:41:14
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Or hey, hello. Hello? No, those are still too friendly. Those are just all friendly. They need to be help, or they need to say help in order to stay within the the emotion of the movie. Realistically, I would do SOS, I think, even though I'm not on a ship.
01:41:34
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That seems like a pretty universal sign for help. Yes, that still is shorter than Hello? i Yeah, I do like that it's a friendly message, though. It's cheesy, kind of like the card being set down.
01:41:52
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It's kind of cute. It's hello. The plane flies overhead. Selina's like, do you think they saw us? Or however British people say that. Yeah.
01:42:04
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whatever their funny speak is like it's funny because they talk different but yeah then the movie ends there it plays like some nice music at the very end i think i have it uh written down actually Season song by Blue States and then music by John Murphy.
01:42:25
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We forgot to shout out John Murphy's score too, or at least like i I meant to make note of it. The theme that plays at the end when Killian's going buck wild. It's such a unique, cool score. It's an actual band but you don't really see that in movies an actual band playing the score like up rock punk industrial sounding band I think it's very cool but what did you think of the ending I liked it. At least it was able to pull everything together in a way because you weren't left feeling super hopeless with everything that was going on. They might possibly get saved now because I think c Selena even says, do you think they saw us this time?
01:43:16
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i could be wrong. but i think you're right. Yeah, so it was it was a good way to end the film because I honestly didn't know how they were going to. So I think them doing it this way and even, yes, making it more uplifting was definitely the way to go.
01:43:35
Speaker
It's what you asked for last week or in our timeline a couple days ago. Yeah. uh let's live in the now a good point yeah you got any final thoughts before we wrap up i know we went pretty long on this episode but yeah very pleasant ending for an otherwise like heavily dark and sad movie Yeah, that I feel like I'll watch this movie again because hearing what you had to say about it, i can appreciate it a lot more.
01:44:11
Speaker
Because when I watched it for the episode, i did not want to rewatch it again just because I feel so so uncomfortable watching zombie movies. So I probably will watch this again. And I'm just...
01:44:26
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you know, anxious to see what 28 weeks later is about because I'm going in fully blind on that. I don't know shit about that one. So I'm ready.
01:44:39
Speaker
Yeah, I'm glad that this movie's not necessarily for everybody. i'm just I'm really glad that you didn't hate this movie. that like you know Even though zombie movies can be a tough watch for you, I'm glad you stuck it through and actually like got something out of this thing.
01:45:01
Speaker
So I really... I'm grateful for that. You know, that this didn't turn into, I had a feeling maybe I was going to have to defend the movie. And part of me going into this was like feeling like, do I have to defend this against the people I know in my life who don't necessarily love this movie? But no, I very happy with how all of this turned out. And,
01:45:24
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This movie in particular, it's just, I know I said earlier, it's a very important movie to me, but it's something that I truly find inspiring. I don't know if I'll ever get to make a movie in my life, but that is something I dream about, something I think about. I have stories, ideas written down, outlines, parts of screenplays.
01:45:45
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And 28 Days Later is a movie that I watch, and I get inspired by the craft. I get inspired by the identity, the specificity of this thing. it has a tone, a look, a feel.
01:45:59
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Everything came together so perfectly between the work of... The writer, the director, the cinematographer, the editor, the way it all came together in post, the look, how flat these big worlds feel, and the score being so unique and kind of really mixed in there, feeling almost just as flat as some of the images look.
01:46:25
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And I don't mean that like saying it's a flaw. I think all of this is a feature of the film. I think it's something worth to worth studying on a craft level, on a writing level, and it's something I really love throwing on and picking apart. And I'm glad that we got to talk about it today, and I'm really glad that we're going to be covering 28 Weeks Later...
01:46:48
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next week i won't have as many long-winded things to go on in that movie this one there's just a lot more meat on the bone with this but i think next week our listeners are going to be in for a really really good episode all right i'm pumped it better be a good watch Hell yeah.
Closing and Listener Engagement
01:47:09
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01:47:22
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