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28 Years Later
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they wrap up their current season with a movie that's currently in theaters, 28 Years Later! That's right! It's the return of Danny Boyle and Alex Garland! They go through the plot of the movie, beat by beat (to the best of their ability), and offer their thoughts on it all. Did this win Mercedes over after 28 Weeks Later lost her? Did this live up to Nick's expectations? There's only one way to find out!
And at the end of this one, their announce thier next season of the show!
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Transcript
Introduction and Movie Experience
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What's up, guys? We're Morbid Curiosity's bringing you another episode. A couple weeks ago, we covered 28 Days Later. Last week, you heard us cover 28 Weeks Later. Now we're wrapping up the season with the movie that just came on theaters a couple days ago. 28 years later, I'm Nicholas Ewers, and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the Morbid Mistress of Mayhem herself.
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Mercedes Martinez, how are you feeling today, Nick, after our experience today? I'm feeling pretty good, pretty good. you know For the listeners, we we went and we saw 28 years later together. This is like the rare time we get to see like watch anything together. and We got to see it in a movie theater with a bunch of strangers eating a bunch of junk food.
Movie Theater Snacks Debate
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I don't know if you were eating. I was eating a bunch of junk food. it was it was a fun time. I think the most horrific part of this experience was learning that you like Raisinets.
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That is such a disgusting candy. Who likes Raisins? Nobody. oh I like Raisins. I like Craisins. I don't mind a dehydrated fruit.
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I got into them actually because I saw the movie Whiplash. I don't know if you've seen that, but the dad gets Raisinets and mixes it with the popcorn. I haven't done that yet, but I've debated on it. But yeah, I dig a good Raisinet.
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So the things that I judge people on are the cookies they like and if they like raisins. And, you know, I thought we were cool beans because we had similar tastes in cookie preference.
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But as soon as you busted out that box of Raisinets, no, you dropped in cookie points to me. I'm so sorry.
Spoiler-Free Movie Review
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Raisinets are an iconic movie theater candy.
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i i ah you know they They're a staple. I feel like the industry would collapse without the Raisinet. What's your go-to movie theater candy? Mine isn't the Raisinet usually. I'll get the cookie dough bites. Raisinets are a top two, top three movie theater candy for me.
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like a chocolate-covered pretzel too. Yeah, i was going to say anything chocolate. you get something at the theater, ah ah Hershey's, a Twix. I had a Twix candy bar with me.
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I just wasn't craving it at the time. But yeah, we we got to... And I gave you a Reese's and you still decided to eat Raisinets. I ate Reese's.
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Okay, well, that saved you. But, you know, the Raisinets kind of... No, I enjoy a good raisin. I might be in a minority. It's better than a snow cap. I like a bunch of crunch too.
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Guys, write in. What's your favorite movie theater candy? Not one that you sneak in, one that you get at the movie theater. the the One of the oddballs, maybe. Yes, write us. Let us know what your favorite candy I ate almost the whole box too, though. I still have a little bit left. I'm going to finish it after this record.
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The Raisinets just added to the experience. I had a ah ah really good time at the movie theater today. Guys, we're going to have a little bit of a format different than usual today. We're going to have a spoiler-free talk about the movie before we hop into spoilers, just in case people haven't seen it and they want to hear a little bit of our thoughts on it before they decide if they want to see it or not.
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This is your time to listen and we'll give you a little bit of a notice before we hop into spoilers. You know, aside from the good vibes, going to see a movie together, being out with the people, me awkwardly sitting next to a stranger who I don't think bought a ticket for the movie and left at a pretty pivotal point and didn't come back.
In-depth Movie Analysis
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What did you think about the movie and how was your time watching it? I had a really good time watching it. I didn't know what to expect. I'm always a little hesitant when a movie comes out, like a sequel, a trilogy, whatever type of add-on in a franchise comes out years after the original films came out.
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Normally, it's a miss instead of a hit, but... I had a fucking fun-ass time watching this. i I'm hearing mixed opinions on it, but no, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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There are some parts, yes, I wasn't a fan of, but still, it's a good movie. I definitely love this film. I can say that. Yeah, I think the term that's been getting used for this one is legacy sequel, legacy sequel, something like that.
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I don't know if that quite fits. It's just kind of a sequel to me, I guess. I've also heard people ah ah kind of have mixed opinions on this. I haven't seen any straight up.
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Yeah.
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most of the ones on letterbox a lot of the early buzz was sitting at the three and a half three star range a couple of people i know though gave it some pretty high ratings like david sims from blank check podcast over at the atlan atlanta gave it four and a half stars that's like high praise coming from him But as for me, I think I kind of love this movie.
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As I was watching it in the theater, sit there were some parts that I found kind of challenging. This movie takes a lot of risks that I didn't expect it would take.
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It's a lot... weirder at times than I expected it to be. Overall, it's a vibe. It's a good time. it really has an emotional core to it. It has characters that you give a shit about.
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It's got really good performances. Aaron Taylor Johnson, people like to dunk on him. I'm not one of those people that dunks on him, but I'm at the point where I'm like, I don't know if I love him.
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noticed it Nosferatu, and I'm noticing it in this movie a little bit. I feel like I can see him acting. Someone pointed that out to me. They're like, he's not a bad actor, but you feel like you can see him acting. I think I'm kind of noticing that a little bit with him.
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I mean, everybody else in the cast really delivers. I found this movie to be an absolute delight and an unexpected but very well done follow-up to 28 Days Later.
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Check it out if you haven't. If you're a fan of the series... There may be some things you like about this, maybe some things you don't like, but I mean, it it may also end up being one of your favorites. It's a very unique zombie movie that I yeah kind of am in love with at this point in time.
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Yeah, I'm just ready to jump right into our actual opinions whenever you're ready. All right, guys, so go check it out if you haven't. We're about to spoil the whole thing. So, yeah, spoilers ahead for 28 years later.
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The movie opens basically with, a is the first shot Teletubbies? I know Teletubbies is in there. Yeah, they were playing the Teletubbies song.
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And i it was funny because it was when one of the like some name came up and i thought it was going along with the name. But yeah, the group of kids, they're just watching Teletubbies and they don't look entranced in the show at all. They literally look miserable there.
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Yeah, there are kids that are on the verge of tears. Some of them are actually sitting there and just like a trans watching it. It's a very uncomfortable feeling, though. They're all very huddled together.
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And then this mom bursts through the door with one of her kids, rushes in, sets the kid down. it's basically like, wait here. Don't open the door. Just keep quiet. And the mom rushes out. You hear a bunch of like yelling and arguing. You get the idea that this is maybe like an apartment complex.
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And then it's just a bunch of screaming in the background. And if you're familiar with the series at all, you you know what kind of carnage is happening behind that door.
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But the little boy, basically, he thinks it's his dad, and he goes to... ah Does he open the door, or do the zombies just force their way in? I know he like goes to listen.
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They forced their way in but honestly, at that part, I was trying to hold in a laugh because i was thinking of the opening kill scene and Halloween Ends when the guy kicks the door open and then the kid it like hits the kid. He falls off the banister and just breaks his neck.
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like So I'm thinking, oh, my God, that's about to happen right now. This kid's head is just going to fall backwards. But yeah, all the zombies start coming in and they're just, you know, tearing at these kids.
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don't show it, but you just see, you know, the blood splatter on the Teletubbies show while it was on TV. So that made it a little more morbid to see that.
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It's a very intense opening. i i guess it is kind of letting the audience off the hook a little bit by not showing the kid death, but it's very upsetting, and the main kid who gets thrust into the room... Man, I mean, you just feel bad for those kids, but...
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The main kid who got thrust into the room starts walking out, and it's just madness in the hallways. He walks towards a door that's open, and this, like, so a neighbor or something, I assume, is just like,
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run closes the door and an infected comes and just starts like chomping on her everybody's turning infected people are puking up blood it's just absolute carnage and this kid fucking books it and is basically being chased through the forest while Awesome.
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Very Danny Boyle-esque music is playing. This movie, if you're a fan of Danny Boyle and the soundtracks he likes to have in his movies, i've actually I actually just realized today I've seen every Danny Boyle movie.
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So I guess I'm a big fan if you think about it in a certain way. But i like it was one of those moments where I was watching it, just being like, ha this is such a Danny Boyle soundtrack already.
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It's not like 28 days later. Like this one, he really really has found an identity as a filmmaker. And it comes out right at the beginning of this movie.
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And yeah, he's running up the hill. Great 28 years and weeks later
Character Analysis: Spike's Family
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iconography. And he approaches a church. I mean, what are your thoughts on everything going up to this point?
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so I'm just wondering how the stamina of a child is able to outrun all of these zombies coming after him, but i'm already just like on edge here like, all right, well, we didn't like start with an adult getting killed. well Technically, we did, but they show children.
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And, now you got this one kid and he goes to the church, which I thought was random. but then I guess his dad was, uh, the priest in there.
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And the dad started freaking me out because he just looked like he was, was accepting his fate, but then didn't want his kid. He was, yeah. Yeah, and then he didn't want his kid to die, though. And I'm thinking, oh, my God, he's going to convince his kid, you know, no, this is our fate, our destiny. you know We have to do this. I literally thought he was going to hold him or hug him while all the zombies broke in.
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But no, he he gives him his cross. He has him hide. And he's just like embracing everyone biting him. And then it even looked like they were carrying him at one point and his arms were outstretched.
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He kind of becomes almost like the pack leader, though. Like it's kind of reminiscent of the first movie, how the first infected we see is just like the priest kind of creepily. I'm like doing the body gesture for the listeners.
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You know, it's not like anyone can see, but Mercedes sees it. but We're hyped, guys. we're We're still hyped from this movie. I know. I am on such a high right now. But the the priest is like, oh yeah, he kind of starts leading the pack and his son hides in this little hole and he's Kind of doing the opposite of what his dad's doing. and His dad really embraced this and is like, this is like the coming of this is judgment day. And he says, like, yes, my children or something as they're storming in and attacking him.
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And his son is in this little hole praying like, my God, why have you forsaken me? And i think then it cuts to black and we get a 28 years later.
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And it's like the little title card reveals that basically lets us know 28 weeks later is not a thing in this movie. And for good reason. Just seeing the how legendary 28 Days was, especially because when I first watched it, I was iffy on it. But then once I watched 28 Weeks Later, i was like, no, I ah ah hate this movie. And I actually can say that I do like 28 Days Later. now i have so much more respect for it.
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Yeah, I was thinking about it, actually, as this movie began. Keeping it in the United Kingdom allows you to do so many interesting things, and I really like what they do with it. well'll We'll get into it, but this movie this movie just feels like the tip of the iceberg, and it excites me.
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It's reminiscent of like Dune Part 1, except I like this so much more than Dune Part 1. Yeah, and it's funny because a lot of things just started clicking for me right when we started recording. So oh I'll be patient before I start going off the rails here.
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But yeah, so the I'm just too excited. But anyway, so now um we have more of a calmer setting.
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So you see this boy, he's in bed being woken up and you see he's kind of packing up for something. Kid looks like he's getting ready for war, but you see he's like just packing away his like essentials, his knife, a flashlight.
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You see him try to grab like a little action figure that looks like a Power Ranger. yeah Yes, that's what I thought it was. He puts it in his bag, but then he kind of thinks about it and then he puts it back.
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He wanted to bring that so that showing you know obviously he is young, he's still latching on to you know his childhood toys, but he put it back for a reason.
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And then you're introduced to his dad. ah He's making him breakfast and giving him, you know, bacon and eggs, which honestly, I was surprised that they were showing bacon. And I thought it was, you know,
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A little cute moment that, you know, the kid was trying to give his dad the bacon. Like, no, you have it. And he's basically saying, no, you need the fuel today. You need your strength today.
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So after that, you hear someone just wailing upstairs and you find out that the mom is up there in bed. you know, she's ill. She is sick. Something is wrong with her.
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where to the point where she can't even like really comprehend what reality she's in. That does happen quite a bit throughout the film. The husband, what's his name? Aaron Taylor Johnson. Oh, Aaron Taylor Johnson.
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Nosferatu. Yeah, and it was funny because I was trying to figure out who the fuck is this guy. I know his face. Again, I didn't really pay attention to the cast before watching it, but then i was like, wait, yeah, he was in Nosferatu, but he was also in Kick-Ass, which I completely forgot about. Oh, yeah, he is in Kick-Ass. I forgot about that.
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Yeah, he was a baby in there. He kind of pops up in a lot of stuff. He's Quicksilver in Avengers Age of Ultron. He's in a movie that I really like, Nocturnal Animals, playing a villain that I and know people have said he's cartoonish. He's almost like a Looney Tunes type of villain. He's very fucking creepy and disgusting. ah Mercedes, I recommend Nocturnal Animals to you. I think you might dig that.
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He pops up in Tenet, too. He was just in everybody's favorite superhero movie, Craven the Hunter, last year. So he's a guy that'll pop up. i He doesn't always work. So like for this movie, he's an English actor. He's the only actor who I felt like I could hear putting on an accent.
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Do you know what I mean? Yes, there were parts where, i don't know, it just felt like you know you were on the set with them while he was acting everything out. Everyone else seemed to have like a good grasp on their role in here, on their character.
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But yeah, i that does make sense. There's even like emotional moments where where him and his son are getting confrontational. And I feel like Alfie Williams is so natural and kind of acting him off the screen a little bit because there are points where he's so like emotionally distraught, Aaron Taylor Johnson, and his lip is like quivering. And I'm like, I feel like I can...
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see you making the choices with your face right now. It's weird. And I only think that way because someone put the thought in my head. Now I can't not see it. And I'm sorry if I'm doing the same thing to anyone else.
00:19:25
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Yeah, you definitely changed my perspective a lot more. I do. that All that being said, I really enjoy his character. i enjoy his role.
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it We'll get into him a lot more later, but his character, oddly enough... has a little bit in common with the dad from 28 weeks later to me.
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And I didn't expect that. There's a little bit in this movie that, there's like a little bit of 28 weeks later that's in this movie's blood that I was kind of surprised by that I wonder if it's and like purposeful or not.
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I do agree with you. i don't know if i said this yet. I did find it really cute, their breakfast moment that they had together. And when they introduced the mom, it it's like an ah ah aggressive fucking jump cut and slam that they would.
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They kind of treat some of the filming and like angles and cuts related to the mom and her being sick at home. to like an infected person. And I thought that was an interesting choice.
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It really made me not enjoy being in the room with the mom when she was sick and we were at the house. yeah I actually thought it was going to be... i thought she actually was infected and they were going to show... Me too. thought she was going to be like chained to the bed, but then once we saw her, like, oh, she's just sick. like Something's wrong with her, which I'm happy they didn't go that route. like oh They're just chaining her up.
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think that would have been like a weird left turn with this movie. It already has... quite a few strange left turns in there. um there. um Yeah. But yeah, so they're, you know, telling the mom that Alfie, what's his name in here? Alfie. Spike. Spike. Spike.
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Sorry, I just. Yeah, they say his name like 700 times. They do. And I still can't remember it. Yeah, right. I thought it was a strange name to give him. Yeah, it's like a dog's name.
00:21:33
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Exactly. but let's Let's keep that to Rugrats land. Let's not bring that in 28 years later. Good point. We have them you know telling the mom, Spike's not going to school today. We're going to go like on, what do they call it, on a run? Or they just say they're going to go on the the mainland. Yeah. They're going on a hunt.
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I thought that's what they call it. It's basically like a rite of passage that people, when they're like 14 or 16, something like that, go on, where it's like their first zombie hunt, basically.
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But Spike is 12. That's the big issue now. Yeah, and even when, like, the mom doesn't want him to go, but then you could see after, you know, putting up a fight, yelling at the dad and everything, i think Spike calms her down a little bit, and or she just kind of forgets what's going on. Yeah, she forgets.
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Yeah, she has like a little episode and forgets and then she's like, oh, where are you off to? And he just says school. She's like, oh, okay. And you see Spike and his dad, they're like making their way through their little town and everyone's like applauding them, you know, cheering him on, like giving saying good luck, Spike.
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One girl gives him an apple and I'm like, wow, everyone knows that they're about to leave. Okay. Yeah. And then the people who are guarding their little island, the woman, there was a woman there and she was saying like, you know, you're a little too young for this. The dad's advocating for him to be able to go.
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And she's like, all right, well, you're you're allowed to go and you're welcome to come back. But if you don't come back, we're not going to go look for you. So right then and there, I was like, fuck, something's going to happen and they're not going to come back and no one's going to go look for them and they're just going to assume they're dead.
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i i was really starting to worry at this part, like what was going to take place? What were we going to see as soon as they left? Yeah, I had a similar assumption too. I actually had heard the plot a couple months ago, and I didn't know if it was true, but this is what I heard without any spoilers for the next two. This is what I heard the plan was that the first one was just a rite of passage hunting trip that's setting up the world of the movie, and two and three I heard are fucking insane and off the wall, and it's where the story really kicks into high gear.
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And that's kind of what you're getting with this, but it's better. That's why i have the Dune Part 2 comparison. Yeah, I did think that it was just going to be the hunting trip, and they really subvert that expectation. They had an easy setup for a pretty basic conventional zombie story, and they chose to do more than that.
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We'll talk about it as we get closer, like, you know, get through the first act, but... as they're getting ready to go on this hunting trip, they do a setup too of, there's a strip of land and the tide has to get low enough for them to be able to make it to the, actual coast.
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And there's a couple of days where, you know, the tide raise back up and they won't be able to return home. So that's like a thing that is basically in the back of everyone's mind when they're leaving,
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this little sanctuary, they have to account for this tide. And I thought that was a pretty interesting element. I wonder if this is geographically correct. It seems like a really good setup. And I have some theories and ideas about this setup and what we might discover in the
Survival and Zombie Encounters
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sequels.
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But yeah, so they make their way over to the mainland and um um you see that Spike is you know a little nervous. He's trying not to let on how nervous he is, but you could see he's pretty nervous.
00:25:30
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Yeah, it's scary as shit, dude. I would be terrified, man. would be like, I don't want to do this. I get everybody has to do it, but I wonder if these kids even know how bad it is.
00:25:40
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I don't think they do because obviously they're not allowed on the mainland. so Some of them probably haven't even seen ah ah any of the infected zombies, whatever. so Once they are there, you know they do see...
00:25:58
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a heavy set zombie. He's like crawling on the the ground of the woods and looks disgusting. yeah you there was yeah There was even like a point where you couldn't see like the point of view from his back.
00:26:15
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so i was like, what the hell is this going to be? Yeah, I really... So this movie does stuff with like the way it gives information to the audience. It plays with the conventions of that in a way that I really like.
00:26:30
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It reveals to us that threats are coming before the characters see the threats. And it reveals them in weird ways where you maybe don't know where they are geographically in location to the main characters.
00:26:43
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And you maybe don't know what you're looking at. And that's kind of an example of this before the characters even know. It's a shot that's in the trailer, but we just see like the back of one of these, like it's like a little baby kind of crawling on its belly kind of towards them.
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And another thing too, that it does with information is it shows us events that happened before the characters like were in that area. And it's in this like really intense, really intense,
00:27:15
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and it makes things so chaotic. It's very, very cool. I didn't know what I was looking at at first, but it took me a minute to kind of piece it together. We were watching parts of House of a Thousand Corpses. That's what we were watching because that's the thing that I was thinking of. it Whenever it cut like to those scenes where the the lighting was red, you see all these humanoid-looking things. You know they're the zombies, but you can really just make out their silhouette and then their eyes.
00:27:46
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It took me a minute to really piece together if that was stuff that was from the movie, because it's also intercutting shots of like when they're walking down the path that has shots of soldiers walking, then shots of like Boy Scouts.
00:28:03
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And I was kind of reading that as almost a way of like, Okay, so even though society's broken down, this is a broken world these people are living in, we're still doing the same things, like this rite of passage that they have to do.
00:28:19
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It's kind of like being in the Boy Scouts, or you know soldiers go off to war, and it's kind of just this obligation. You have to fight for your country, and that it's almost like drawing the parallels. And by the way, too, while that's happening, they're playing...
00:28:37
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boots, this like speech poem thing that is in the trailer, and it's really fucking cool. I'm glad that they put it in the movie. I didn't expect to hear it but they make it a part of the soundtrack, and it rules.
00:28:51
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Thank you for explaining that more because i was going to ask you, you know why were they showing you know random Boy Scouts or whatever? was just my read. I could be wrong.
00:29:03
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I mean, I trust your opinion. We'll say that you're right about everything. It's more subjective, though, whatever your read of is. that And that that was just kind of my read. i was like, oh, we're just kind of doing the same thing. Even though society's broken down, we're just going to do the same thing.
00:29:19
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I'm trying to give you props, man. ah ah Thank you. I appreciate it. So the dad, he is, know, prepping Spike to, you know, take his aim, get ready shoot a zero at the at the zombie.
00:29:34
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And his attention is on Spike. And then you see from a different point of view, there is another zombie crawling on the ground coming towards the dad.
00:29:46
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What is the dad's name in here? Jamie, Jamie. So at the last minute, I didn't know that till you just said it right now. They say it a few times, but i I just never remember these people's names for some reason.
00:30:02
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I just learned Jodie Comer's name now and it makes the ending make a lot more sense now. But yeah, as soon as Spike lands his arrow, he does make it into the zombie's neck, ultimately killing the zombie. the Jamie does see the zombie behind him and is able to shoot that one.
00:30:23
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So you could see Jamie. He's all proud of his kid. They keep walking forward. They find like this abandoned house, and they're trying to look for... you know anything salvageable, anything that could be useful to them. and This is where you start to see some of the you know the jokes that they want to throw in here were where Spike doesn't know a lot of cultural things from like other generations. you know Jamie popped up with Frisbee and he's like, well, what is that? He's like, it's a Frisbee. What? He's like, you're goingnna love this. Oh, yeah.
00:30:59
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and That was so simple because it was such a fun-ass toy too. and It was a basic toy, but everyone knows what a Frisbee is. so As soon as that happened, I'm like, damn, this is turning out to be one of those movies where you ask a kid, oh, do you know this band? They're like, no. You're like, all right, I'm pretty old now. so yeah Spike has probably never seen a movie before.
00:31:22
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Yes, we see that he is very uncultured with a lot of things going forward. He's probably never listened to a podcast before. He's not even a fan of this podcast.
00:31:34
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I know, he's a lame, but the actor playing him does such a great job. He he does. yeah I thought he was going to be kind of sometimes I feel like certain child actors are like wimpy a little bit, depending on their role and then you know what they bring to the role.
00:31:53
Speaker
But no, this kid, he fucking shows up in every single scene. i I'm excited to see him in more films now. Yeah, I said this, I think, on our Sinister episode. Guys, go listen to that if you haven't.
00:32:06
Speaker
That you kind of have to make a decision with a kid actor at a certain point. Like, oh man, is this kid going to annoy me the whole movie? And... this kid uh alfie playing spike i had zero issue with him i was very annoyed how many times people say his name out loud it was like oh my god no one says anybody's name this fucking much it's unbelievable but and we can't even remember his name
00:32:38
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. i did ah ah struggle with that genuinely. I have to have it right in front of me. but And his name is the only one that's like really said a bunch. Him and Ray Fiennes, his name is said a bunch.
00:32:53
Speaker
But ah ah yeah, I really found this kid to be great. he's a breakout He's the breakout performance in this movie. they So they show them, you know, getting, you know, bombarded with all the zombies like breaking into the house. So they end up having to hide up in the attic for a night.
00:33:15
Speaker
And or no, there was like a whole chase sequence actually, right Yeah, so they basically, after they kill those two zombies, they're kind of feeling good. Aaron Taylor Johnson is getting to be the big hero dad that he probably always wanted to be in front of his son.
00:33:34
Speaker
And then in the distance, they see on top of a hill. I love the hill imagery in this series. I don't think any other zombie series does it except for this. And it's perfect.
00:33:45
Speaker
It's awesome. And you just see the silhouette of like one infected, and it almost sounds like it's sending out a call. And I like Aaron Taylor Johnson. He is basically Alan Grant in Jurassic Park. He's like, nobody move a muscle.
00:34:01
Speaker
And then this big silhouette just kind of walks up, it just big and lumbering. And he's like, fuck, that's an alpha. Okay, run into the forest now.
00:34:12
Speaker
And that's kind of our... introduction to the idea of an alpha. I think that's like the first or the second time that word is said out loud in relation to the infected. And yeah, they get in a big chase where Aaron Taylor Johnson's able to hold his own and shoot arrows at them.
00:34:30
Speaker
The kid is basically missing, but we're getting these awesome... and We're getting to see the iPhone, the 20 iPhones, because i don't know if people don't and like know this. This movie was shot on an iPhone rig. It probably cost tens of thousands of dollars, but still, it's like...
00:34:48
Speaker
ah ah and innovative technology i think but there's a rig of like 20 iphones that basically recreates like bullet time anytime an arrow goes through somebody it's like the matrix bullet time where you get a full like 180 around the arrow as it goes as it impales the person it's like pretty sick i like It caught my attention a lot. I really liked it. i'm And this is the movie they first implemented it, so I can't imagine what how it's going to be used in the next But...
00:35:19
Speaker
but Yeah, the chase is pretty awesome, and then this is when they end up in the house. They basically have to like crawl into the roof of this attic, and they barely make it in as they're picking off all these zombies. and Also, too, not to go on for so long, this is where it's first made clear that these zombies are naked. It makes sense after the song that all their clothes would deteriorate, but i mean this physicality behind them, the stunt work, the makeup...
00:35:49
Speaker
It's incredible. These things look, move, sound, and act in a way that I don't think I've seen any zombie movie really portray zombies, and it's unbelievably good.
00:36:02
Speaker
Yeah, and I think that's why i was referring to them as like humanoid because in the first two films and then in usually any zombie film, they're still clothed, but this is 28 years later. So obviously, yes, their clothes are all fucked up and you know gone to shreds now.
00:36:23
Speaker
And it was funny because once they do just transitioning to the next part, like once they do up in the attic, you know, they're they're tired, they're white, they have to hide out there for a little bit.
00:36:36
Speaker
And I'm annoyed at the kid, honestly, because I'm just like, damn it, Spike, you dropped the ball. You were doing so good at first and now you fucked up. Like you're just leaving your dad hanging. You're about to let his ass die.
00:36:49
Speaker
and then you see he feels guilty about it and is telling is he's apologizing to his dad and his dad's like, what are you talking about? You're doing great. And I was happy that the dad had that conversation with him. Like he was you know, so like just telling him, no, you did a good job. Like, you i and don't care about your fuck ups or whatever, but you did a good job. Like even i think, were they in the house when they saw the suspended body at that moment yet? Or was that the next scene?
00:37:22
Speaker
They saw the suspended body that was like right before the zombie horde happened after they killed the bigger zombies that were on the ground. I forgot about that. Yeah, there's one suspended with like a blood bag.
00:37:35
Speaker
They don't know it's a zombie at first, though. It just seems like a dead body left to send a message. He does not want to look at this body and his dad's telling him like, no, don't look away. And you kind of see in a moment in here.
00:37:47
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And the kids like, well what lesson is it? And then all of a sudden that's when like the zombies like waking up and everything. And, yeah, that part was pissing me off, too, because, you know, kid, this this thing is getting loose from like the rope that was binding it. And you're about to just let it like attack you, attack your dad.
00:38:10
Speaker
And the dad, he's even like, what the fuck are you waiting for? But then, yes, finally, the kid shoots him. So I was full on thinking the dad's going to like.
00:38:21
Speaker
go off on him even a little bit, but he doesn't. and He just, you know, consoles this kid. And I love that heartfelt moment between like the father and son, because he's like, I took you out here to hunt. Yeah, you had some hiccups, but I'm not focusing on that. I'm focusing on the job well done here.
00:38:38
Speaker
I do also think, though, this is the part where the cracks kind of start to show in the dad, where it's like, oh, maybe he isn't this big, perfect hero figure.
00:38:49
Speaker
Because he kind of starts to lose... It seems like he's starting to lose patience with his son a little bit. His son has a bunch of questions that he starts being a little dismissive towards.
00:39:02
Speaker
And you could tell when that alpha comes in, his dad is no longer in control of that situation. And you can kind of see that he's scared. And I don't know if his son is exactly picking up on it.
00:39:15
Speaker
But then as the movie goes along, it kind of starts to come out that the dad is like a ah ah fraudulent father figure. And I really like how slowly they they kind of give you information about who the dad really is.
00:39:33
Speaker
They were able to make it back to the their little island. you know They just treaded through the small rays of the tide while you see the alpha behind them fucking bolting after them, scaring the fuck out of me, honestly. It's like it's this big-ass dude. Well, because they keep checking to see if he's coming from behind them.
00:39:58
Speaker
And there's even a beautiful shot of them at the top of the mountain. And they're still like, OK, we're clear. We're good. So but you kind of know in the back of your mind, like, when is the shit going to hit the fan?
00:40:09
Speaker
Exactly. That's why i was even saying like, I kind of forgot what film we were watching because they, it it had like slow, like a slow build in a way to me, though we had that intense opening, but i had the yeah. had like beautiful music playing.
00:40:26
Speaker
It did. And just the scenery, it just takes you away from all the the chaos of their reality. And yeah, so they do make it back to their island. The people that are watching guard are able to finally shoot the fucking alpha down with all their arrows. I think it took like a burning arrow to finally kill his ass. Yeah, a giant ass burning arrow.
00:40:53
Speaker
Yeah, i was like, okay. Did hear people behind us clap in the theater, actually, when that took him down? I didn't even hear that. Yeah, people were clapping. And I also think there might have been a baby in our theater, too. It was hard to tell. But yeah, people were clapping the moment the arrow connects. And it kind of sets you up to want to clap. Because again, like the beautiful music that's playing, and the you just get these awesome shots of stars while they're running. It's almost like Mario Kart going down Rainbow Road while a fucking big-ass zombie is chasing you.
00:41:28
Speaker
I love that game. Oh my God. Everyone would hate me playing that game with them because because I would yell at them because they would all beat me and I would cheat in some levels.
00:41:39
Speaker
But oh my God. Yeah, I didn't hear any of that, but probably because I was too fixated on the screen. like I was covering my head a lot because I was like, oh my God, you know.
00:41:51
Speaker
They're about to die. this this is really going down now. yeah, I was pretty pretty tense at this moment. But, yeah, once they make it back in they the town was having, like, a whole, like, welcome back party for Spike. And this is where you see the dad. He's just, you know, ah hyping his kid up, saying, like, yeah, you know, he was able to, like, kill all these zombies.
00:42:15
Speaker
And you even see Spike trying to tell him, like, But I kept missing these ones during like that little chase. And he's like, no, no like you you killed everyone. And they're all trying to get him spiked drunk. Everyone's like lifting him up, like cheering him on, whatever.
Character Developments and Climax
00:42:33
Speaker
And You see it just start to become like a blur of a scene for um Spike because then you know his head is spinning from the alcohol, from everyone's praise for him. You even see the dad like dancing with this one woman. and At first, I was like, oh, his mom is better and you know she's there, but I'm like, wait, his mom was like...
00:42:58
Speaker
a lighter had lighter hair than this person. And then once you see like her pull Jamie off, I'm like, oh, no, because then the kid, he runs out, he pukes his guts out and then follows his dad and sees that, you know, his dad is having an affair with this woman.
00:43:18
Speaker
and That's fucking hard for this kid because you clearly know he loves his mom. and You see like at first he respected his dad, but now that's shattered. like He goes home. he talks Who does he talk to at his house? Is it his grandfather?
00:43:36
Speaker
I don't know exactly who that is. It's not Jodie Comer's dad because I think he's dead. Jodie Comer hallucinates her dad at one point and keeps thinking Spike's her dad.
00:43:51
Speaker
It might be Aaron Taylor Johnson's dad. It might just be someone who lives in that village, but... Yeah, he goes and talks to him, and this guy basically... tell They see a fire earlier on when they're on their hunt originally, and Spike is like, what's that fire? And Aaron Taylor Johnson clearly knows something is up with it, and is just like, it's nothing. what a What fire? I've never even heard of fire, basically.
00:44:19
Speaker
Puts on this whole shtick. That's what I meant by like being dismissive. Mm-hmm. This guy's like, if your dad didn't want to tell you about it, I'll respect that. But there's a doctor who lives there.
00:44:32
Speaker
He's kind of weird, people would say, but he's a doctor. And Spike gets the idea to basically, ah ah why aren't we taking mom there? If there's a doctor, why is mom not being taken there? And kind of raises that.
00:44:46
Speaker
Yes, and that's like towards his own little breakdown of spikes because he goes up, he ah crawls into bed with his mom, and the next day like he confronts his dad like,
00:45:01
Speaker
do you want mom to die? And if she dies, are you going to be with this other woman? And, the dad loses it. Like he does explain like who that doctor was and basically saying like, yeah, you know, he's crazy. he,
00:45:17
Speaker
It made it seem like he did like a mass genocide with all these people and you know just kind of like nonchalantly waved it off when he saw people. but like yeah It looks very fucked up the way that it's described and portrayed to us. like It's just this happy-go-lucky guy is just slaughtering innocent people and burning the bodies.
00:45:38
Speaker
That confused the hell out of me, so I'm like, that has to be incorrect. there There's something else behind this guy, and I don't know what it is yet.
00:45:49
Speaker
But yeah, since the kid, Spike, told him that you know the dad loses it, and he slaps the shit out of him, and that's where this kid is like, you know what, fuck you. and Then he runs upstairs because he hears his mom yelling, and Jamie runs after them, but then...
00:46:08
Speaker
I like it. I love this part so much because this is where, you know, Spike grows a pair and he just shoves his dad out the room and is just trying to whip out his knife at his dad. Just like, just leave us.
00:46:22
Speaker
And the dad gets even more pissed off, snatches the knife away. And I'm like, what the fuck is he going to do to this kid now? But then he just hands it back to him. And he's like, all right, I fucked this part up myself. So he leaves.
00:46:35
Speaker
But then you see like, OK, now this kid is going to be like the sole provider, you know, the caretaker for his mom. And that just added a whole other level of sadness to this film, because not only are they dealing with the reality of zombies.
00:46:56
Speaker
His mom is sick. This kid just found out that his dad is cheating on his mom and basically thinks that his dad wants the mom to die. That way he doesn't have to deal with her anymore. So just imagine what this kid is going through right now.
00:47:12
Speaker
And this is where the movie really kind of starts taking unexpected turns, in my opinion, I would say, because a conventional movie would be like, this is where we go to get the medicine for mom, and it becomes a movie about that. but No, this movie does gets a lot messier in kind of the best ways, I think.
00:47:36
Speaker
You did say something about like these people are grappling or like dealing with the zombified world. It being like 29 or 20, I keep almost saying 29, it being 28 years later, this, I kind of get the vibe like, yeah, there's a danger out there, but these people seem like they're like, this is their normal. And I kind of like that about that from the outside looking in where it's like, you know, we're living in a world where there hasn't been a zombie apocalypse. It's easy to look at that and be like, oh my God, like, how are these people?
00:48:14
Speaker
Not in fear every day because I was struggling with that myself while I was watching it. But like ah I was thinking about it on my drive home, actually, to record.
00:48:25
Speaker
I was thinking like this is their normal, actually, and they're probably not sweating it as much as I am right now and as much much as people were day one. And I have more theories about that, too, that I'll get into when we start wrapping up the episode.
00:48:41
Speaker
But I am really, yeah, it's I think this is their new normal, though, or basically their consistent normal.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, definitely, because even when they show a Spike waking up in his room, i thought that they were showing ah ah flashback or something because his room does look lived in.
00:49:06
Speaker
It doesn't look random or anything, he even had like some toys in there. so they They have established you know a whole life that they could pursue there. They do point out he would eventually have a job of basically like their source of energy is lumber, like burning lumber, I assume.
00:49:30
Speaker
So his job would be to chop trees. And yeah, that they have like agriculture has been established basically. Mm hmm. Yeah, exactly. Spike basically sets a fire as a distraction for everyone who's guarding the post of the island and is telling them, like hey this is like an all-hands-on-deck job. Everyone needs to go and put out the fire.
00:49:56
Speaker
so He acts like he's going to like man the station there, but that was his getaway for him and his mom to go to the mainland. because he wants to take her to that doctor that his dad didn't want to tell him about.
00:50:10
Speaker
So now they're on this journey, and I'm just thinking that his mom is going to have like her little outbursts here and there, and that's going to bring on so many zombies to them. i was very surprised at how calm she was, even though, yeah, she was getting a little nervous at first.
00:50:30
Speaker
She did kind of freak out a little bit. Yeah, not not too much, but she did. Yeah, there was a moment where they were at the top of the hill that I really like where she realizes like, oh shit, we're on the mainland right now. Like we we should not be here. And she does kind of accept their journey. It's a really sweet moment where he's like, I've got you, mom. I'm going to make you better. It's like probably the most emotional I get in the movie is, or like one of the more emotional points would be this one.
00:51:04
Speaker
Yeah, because even at that point, she kept asking, you know, where's your dad at And for him to be like, no, I got you, you know, I'm going to get you better or get you to the doctor whatever.
00:51:15
Speaker
It's like, okay, you know, the kid has reached that point where he is going to take care of his mother. And a tearjerker moment right there. Yeah.
00:51:27
Speaker
Okay, I can't focus on that because i did tear up at one point in this movie, it wasn't that scene. It was later on. A little later. i think I might know which one.
00:51:38
Speaker
So this is where they hit that gas station, right? No, the gas station comes a little later. So they basically make it, they travel a little ways away and they make it to a church and decide to settle right there for the night.
00:51:54
Speaker
And this is a point where, again, the they really reveal information to the audience, but in such a nice and particular way, they're like Spike is starting to fall asleep. And as he's starting to doze off, it cuts to an overhead shot of one of the baby belly crawlies, like zombies.
00:52:16
Speaker
and it's this overhead shot and you don't really know where it is in relation to them then cuts back to spike dozing off again cuts back and it's like the camera lower to the ground and the zombies crawling then cuts back to spike he's asleep then one more cut it's an overhead and the zombie is crawling towards spike very slowly and he's not waking up the zombie starts chewing on his shoelace And then you basically, a bag gets put over the zombie's head and you cut to the morning. They're cuddled up together. And it's revealed in a weird way.
00:52:52
Speaker
and this isn't really touched on ever. I don't know what the movie was trying to communicate, but the mom, it looks like bagged up the zombie and bashed its head until it died. And she doesn't have any memory of that. And I wonder if it was just to show that she doesn't have any memory of that. I don't know what the point of her being the one who killed it and showing us that at that moment and her not remembering. I don't know what the point of all of that was, but it was very well done, like the buildup to it.
00:53:25
Speaker
Yeah, that part kind of confused me because I was thinking, okay, she snapped back to reality and got into like you know her protective mama bear mode to you know kill this thing that was about to kill her son.
00:53:41
Speaker
Then she forgets about it. So it was either that or it was her having like a moment where she just said, like,
00:53:51
Speaker
such a freak out but still either way she was protecting her kid so yeah i i don't like that they don't focus on that a little more than they did yeah that made me wonder if she ah ah had a little bit of rage virus in her if that's what they were trying to communicate but it wasn't it might have just been a motherly instinct thing like He says he's looking out for her, but she's really, you know, she's the mother at the end of it all. And the mom's going to do what she can to protect the kid.
00:54:23
Speaker
That might have been what it was saying. But right after all of that, it's basically cut right to these soldiers. Actually, it kind of comes out of nowhere.
00:54:35
Speaker
You don't really know what you're watching or why you're watching it. But it's these soldiers running through this like ah ah lower, like what was probably something that water ran through, and they're being really being chased by zombies.
00:54:50
Speaker
They're Swedish, I think is what they say later on. I could be wrong, Swedish, Swiss. But they're running, being chased by these zombies. They say there's eight of them. They're being picked off one by one.
00:55:05
Speaker
Zombies start falling from above. There's an alpha that actually sent them. There's a shot of an alpha before all of this standing on a ledge. And these three survivors make it into this dark tunnel where they're walking and walking and the alpha meets them in there they all turn around at once and i was like okay one of you face the other way for christ's sake yeah i was like all of you turn around so nobody's watching your back and the alpha we really get to see their power at this point he takes one of the one of them he grabs him by the upper half of their skull rips that and rips their skull off their spine comes with it
00:55:51
Speaker
then he takes that and beats the other one to death with it. And the third guy escapes through the way that they came. I want to say it was hard to kind of tell, but it looked like maybe that's where he left is where they had come.
00:56:04
Speaker
Was I the only one who thought their alpha was fucking Jason Momoa? Because I swear it looks straight up like um I was trying not to laugh at that part, but I was also... He could have been Jason Momoa.
00:56:19
Speaker
I wonder if Jason Momoa has a fucking hog like this guy too. I mean, I know why they call him alpha. Yeah. Man, I really wish we were recording when we first started talking. That would have been a great line here.
00:56:35
Speaker
I don't even remember. all the dick talk. Yeah, we talked about behaving and not doing any dick talk. I actually said that and now look.
00:56:47
Speaker
where we are. i'm I'm the one who brought us here. A lot of dicks, though. I give it a lot of credit. There's a lot of just full frontal nudity of men and women, and good for those stunt people. I hope they were paid.
00:56:58
Speaker
It really fucking paid off, because they got some great footage involving them, but... I had to get past the alpha. They talk about it later a little bit where they're like, I guess the rage virus infected them like or affected some of them like steroids a little bit.
00:57:15
Speaker
But yeah, it's just these hulking like berserker like from Gears of War. Basically, these berserker like creatures with just giant fucking swinging hogs on them. Yeah.
00:57:27
Speaker
And it's it's ridiculous, but it's awesome. It's my favorite edition. I hope in the sequels we get more different types of zombies because they introduced two in this one.
00:57:39
Speaker
And I really like both of them. But the alpha, man, he's scary. You really believe like nobody can kill this thing. Yes, that fucker was massive. and Then they even show um um a part where there was like a stream of water, all the zombies are in it, and they show pregnant zombie.
00:58:02
Speaker
and I'm like, what the loved it. No. i heard you say that actually. That was such bullshit. I was so mad at that part. like I like the waddle. looks so fucking wild. was just like, man, that thing's ready to pop. It looks like if you poke it, the fucking baby will slide right out of there.
00:58:23
Speaker
Yeah, I knew that's what they were leading into, but it just reminded of- like how give that information to the audience, though. They put it in your head like, what is this?
00:58:34
Speaker
I hope they call back to that. They better not ignore pregnant zombie over there. Oh my god, that was such a stupid detail. like Anyway, we'll get there we there. I disagree, but there's probably a lot of people who agree with you.
00:58:51
Speaker
I felt that that was going to rub people the wrong way, especially the pregnancy scene itself. I heard someone say, what the fuck, behind us when the pregnancy scene was happening.
00:59:02
Speaker
Oh, I thought I said that too. You made noises too, but you weren't the only ones. So I don't think other people were feeling what you were feeling, but I was all about the pregnant walk.
00:59:14
Speaker
I thought the birth scene itself was kind of ridiculous. Jodie Comer, like putting her hands up and helping. Yeah. I guess we're talking about it now, so we don't have to yeah we can glance over it later. but Yeah, tell us all. Yeah, I thought that ah thought that was ridiculous a little bit. But i overall, in concept and in most of the execution, I really liked it.
00:59:35
Speaker
Especially that walk you know in the river. it just I'm imitating the walk on camera now, but I really i loved it. I hated that scene so much. so By the time we get to this scene, they end up meeting with this... The guy was in the Navy, right? Eric?
00:59:58
Speaker
I feel like yeah the Navy. They basically, they meet them at a ah good old hell gas station they're being chased by a bunch of zombies. Yeah. i don't remember how they started getting chased actually, but they're getting chased to the hell gas station. That's where I get gas.
01:00:15
Speaker
actually yeah That's where all the morbid curiosity fans go. yeah um but yeah they They meet up with this guy, Eric. he He sees that they're not really going to be of use to him, even though he helped save them. but you know he He's trying to help the kid get his mom to that doctor.
01:00:35
Speaker
He's starting to see like you know the mom's a little out of it. kid is very uncultured, doesn't like the way his fiance looks on his phone. um and they started yeah that was that was a good moment, actually. That was. i enjoyed that part. I thought it was a little much at the same time, but it still had me laughing.
01:00:58
Speaker
but yeah As they're walking, they start hearing all these screams. and For some reason, the mom was able to make her happy way over to see what it was. i don't know how she managed to get that far away from Spike, but then that was when she found the pregnant zombie.
01:01:18
Speaker
That was such a bullshit scene. Before they stumble on the pregnant zombie, though, we get a lot. I really enjoyed Eric's character because he's not in the movie for that long, but he gives a lot of context for what's happening in the outside world. He basically talks about like, yeah, the island's been quarantined for all 29 years. Probably Eric's entire life, this island has been quarantined. He's just grown up where we don't go here. Something fucked up happened. They're all like kind of savages.
01:01:49
Speaker
He assumes that inbreeding might be happening, which I was like, that would make sense why people would assume that. But he says like his, he was in the Navy, his ship crashed and ah ah team of eight of them were kind of drifting towards the Island and they tried not to, but the wind blew them there.
01:02:07
Speaker
And if you step foot on there, you basically, no one's going to let you leave. So that sucks. This guy's life is over. And I mean, he is kind of a dick. So that adds to a little bit of the fun of it. You hope that he dies, but he's given Spike a little bit of a hard time about what he doesn't know in the real world.
01:02:30
Speaker
And Yeah, all around, he is just kind of an asshole, but he does have a really good bit where Jodie Comer is like, I know a dick when I see one, and then the camera kind of pans over to his face and holds on his reaction for a little bit.
01:02:45
Speaker
I thought that was funny. It didn't seem like a lot of people picked up on that joke or they didn't find it funny, but i it seemed like joke. thought it was It was. Yeah, it was. i I was excited with him because I thought they were going to have like Their own little like forced together family. like He was going to have an older brother and not really have to take on all the responsibility. and Then fucking alpha male over here kills him too.
01:03:18
Speaker
yeah I'm not going to lie. That part pissed me off too because I didn't want Eric to die. like For the little time he was on screen, I grew attached to him. Really? I'm surprised. i thought you would have been on board with him dying because I liked what he added to the movie. Just being in there for a little bit, he was like, you call them Alpha? You make them sound like Wall Street Bros or something. It's like, yeah, he...
01:03:43
Speaker
it's a nice reminder that oh yeah the world moved on and forgot about these people this is the island of the world is just forgotten and we make sure nobody leaves ever it's kind of fucked up if you think about it and eric represents that in a way and i i was actually happy to see him go this is a first time reversal here on the podcast for the new listeners but Mercedes wanted him to stick around, and I was happy to see him go. And he kind of dies almost like Carmine does in the first Gears of War movie at the hands of the Berserker, or one of the Carmine-looking soldiers.
01:04:20
Speaker
So very it reminded me a lot of that. And then the alpha kind of uses his skull and spine. He just kind of carries it around like a baby with a toy a little bit.
01:04:32
Speaker
But yeah you hated this whole scene. i yeah, because i was on Eric's side, like, dude, fucking leave this pregnant bitch. Like, we see that she's pregnant and she's infected.
01:04:46
Speaker
Nothing and good can come out of this. But, you know, the mom. But. But the the thing about that, though, so I was agreeing with you, and I i really love that Eric was there for the the scene because Eric is us. Eric is us who have not lived through a zombie apocalypse being like, no, fucking kill it.
01:05:05
Speaker
Fucking kill it. Jodie Comer and Spike, though, there's no real risk in them saving this baby. the whole Their whole world is fucked. What's one more, you know, if it starts to show signs of infected infection, you kill it.
01:05:21
Speaker
They do say over and over that it's not infected. I feel like that's on purpose. It's either a subversion or they were really trying to hammer it home that it's not. But I like I don't feel like the characters who live on the island really have much reason to get rid of the baby at this point.
01:05:41
Speaker
Why not? Like, fuck around and let's find out. You know, it's already the end of the world. They're they're living in hell right now. Like, let's see, like, how fucked up shit can get. Like, oh, well, they're banging.
01:05:54
Speaker
That's what Ray finds. His reaction is like, I had theories that they were banging. you know it's like let's see where this can go guys you know when you fuck around and find out you normally get killed already did they already fucked around and find found out yeah but i'm talking about the human years ago They did 20 humans here. and Right here. They lost an island.
01:06:20
Speaker
They can't go to the island anymore. The ones trying to help this fucking pregnant bitch, the mom, Isla and Spike here, because I'm just thinking the mom is going to be touching this baby that's exiting the fucking pregnant zombie.
01:06:39
Speaker
All that yeah blood, all the gunk is going to be on there. And then I'm thinking, okay, they're going to cut the umbilical cord. That shit's going to splatter on one of them. And then, yeah, but that whole fucking time.
01:06:53
Speaker
Yeah. That whole time i was just quoting my own mother because anytime we would be watching a movie and there was like a birth scene in there, she'd be like, that's bullshit. That ain't no newborn baby.
01:07:04
Speaker
Because she pours like the tiniest bit of water on the baby after saving it. And all of a sudden this baby is spotless. That is such bullshit.
01:07:14
Speaker
Yeah, side tangent there. just purified. That water is so pure, Mercedes. It's because it hasn't been polluted by man for 28
01:07:23
Speaker
All the zombies polluted it though when they were walking in there naked and splattering around in there. Yes, but that's natural like you know waste. It's not like they're dumping oil or anything. you know There's no BP oil spills happening over on this island anymore.
01:07:43
Speaker
They're all secreting blood and guts and oozing everything out of their body. And it's all going in there. Fish do the same too.
01:07:54
Speaker
It's pure. They should really focus on that. Kind of like in Endgame, they're like, you know, the water, there's more fish in the water. The waters are clear. You know, since the Thanos snap, people should be talking about it. They're like, hey, since the rage virus, you know...
01:08:09
Speaker
the Not as much pollution. you know You can get a breath of fresh air without suffocating. My phone isn't reading weather alerts every day.
01:08:21
Speaker
mean, they don't have phones, but side to end. The one guy had a phone and then it died. Yeah, it did. I like that touch, though. He's like, here's my fucking alien-looking girlfriend.
01:08:32
Speaker
And Spike gets a good laugh at her. and I mean, honest, No offense to that actress. I know. make fun of her though It welcomes the poking fun of.
01:08:44
Speaker
she She looked a little rough. I'm not going to lie. Let's just say that was AI created that. I'm sure it was. yeah I'm sure it was like a beautiful actress, but they just enhanced certain parts of her.
01:08:58
Speaker
but so Then, yeah basically, the baby's born. Mercedes hates all of it. We're in the theater, and I guess she wants to rip her skin off. She hates it so much.
01:09:09
Speaker
They take out her favorite character, and then- You know, I do like how this movie, I don't know if it meant to do the train to Busan, but it's like, we're going to do train to Busan, but just on a crashed train.
01:09:24
Speaker
And this alpha is fucking running for him. And you're like, they're not going to survive. And they barely make it. That alpha comes so close to killing Spike. It's like swings at him and misses. And then there's like a reddish orange guy who does like a...
01:09:41
Speaker
and gets the alpha with like a little dart. and It's like some type of morphine. and This is where we get Lord Voldemort himself, Ray Fiennes. He comes into the picture. and God, you know you got to love Ray Fiennes. I didn't ah ah know what to expect of him. I knew he was going to be the doctor based off of the flash forward or the flashback we get. It looked like a Ray Fiennes type.
01:10:08
Speaker
And you kind of just know, too, it's like, Ralph Fiennes is in this. He's probably playing the doctor. You kind of just put the pieces together. But man, I really enjoyed him in this movie. What do you think about all this? You know, you hated everything leading up to this. Did you like the chase, too, by the way?
01:10:27
Speaker
I did like the chase that if you didn't see, I was hiding under my hoodie too, barely peeking out because I was like, they are so fucked. I don't know how they're getting out of this. I noticed you hide once or twice, i think.
01:10:39
Speaker
I mean, I pushed it through. I manned it through and was able to watch it all, but you know I was hiding a little bit. I need a little security blanket there. But yeah, that that part like fucked me up, so i was I was surprised. I didn't know. Is it Ralph Fiennes or Ralph Fiennes?
01:10:57
Speaker
Because I know who he is. i just didn't know his actual name. It's Ray Fiennes, and I've accidentally called him ah Ralph Fiennes on the podcast before.
01:11:07
Speaker
Not on These Guys Got Juice's Conclave episode, but like an episode or two before that, I was talking about him. Then by the time of Conclave, I was like, Doug, why did you let me accidentally say his name wrong a couple times?
01:11:21
Speaker
I know it's Ray Fiennes, but just the spelling puts something else in my head. It does, yeah. So, yeah, I didn't know he was going to be in here. So when they did show him, i was like, wait, is that Voldemort? And then thinking back to like what you said, when you see the flashback and you just see his back, it's like, yeah, that's him. I could buy it. And him fucking looking like Dr. Satan himself with that iodine on him. Iodine or whatever he calls it, how he pronounces it.
01:11:55
Speaker
yeah he the like The virus doesn't respond well to it or something. I thought that was cool. I'm like, oh, he just coats himself in iodine. na he It was funny because you see he's he's a little kooky. he's not He's not just like a general doctor, which you knew because you're hearing these rumors about him. You didn't think he was operating out of a hospital or he had an operating practice?
01:12:22
Speaker
They made it seem as if like he was like a mad doctor. like He was doing like some fucked up experiments. He's like, muah, ha, ha, ha, ha. Like Frankenstein himself.
01:12:35
Speaker
It's alive. Alive. Once he's talking a little bit, you see he's just like, he seems very, what's the word I'm looking for?
01:12:50
Speaker
You see, he's trying to... Sincere. Sincere, yeah. He's trying to instill some you know good knowledge into into Spike. And he thinks like, oh, there're did you guys come here because of the baby? Yeah.
01:13:05
Speaker
I like that line. Not to like interrupt. Sorry, but it was just the way he says it. He was like, did you guys come here for the baby? No, we came here for my mom. It's a nice natural way to get into that exposition because, of course, he would have questions about the baby.
01:13:20
Speaker
He's not going to not ask about the baby. He's a doctor. But then it's like, oh, no, that's not why you're here. OK, I thought that was a really organic bit of writing that I enjoyed quite a bit. I'm glad you brought that up. I didn't want to like overlook that.
01:13:35
Speaker
But yeah, then you know he they show the the doctor. He's just you know doing like as best of an examination Isla as he can. He's asking her her the you know general questions and then He says, you know, without like the proper tools and being able to properly diagnose you just based on your symptoms, I believe you have cancer.
01:14:01
Speaker
And that is just like the biggest fucking slap in the face here. It's like you're... These people are... are already down, and now you just have to fucking kick them while they're down because out of all things, when they're all trying to hide or like escape like the inevitable death of zombies attacking them, now you have another form of inevitable death hitting the mother slowly, and it has been for God knows how long.
01:14:31
Speaker
And he even says, like, you know, she will die soon. And it's just heartbreaking to watch because out of all the things that Spike didn't know about, like he doesn't know what a Frisbee is, didn't know what a phone was, like anything like that,
01:14:47
Speaker
He literally can't comprehend why simple medicine cannot cure his mom. Like he doesn't know about cancer and doesn't know like, yeah, there's no cure. So that part fucking killed me. I hated that scene so much. Yeah, I didn't realize that because at a certain point I did think to myself, like, what if they did drop that she had cancer or something?
01:15:10
Speaker
But it didn't hit me until like that moment. Like, oh, yeah, this kid, there's a chance he may not have been exposed to this before. and Yeah, this is a world where diseases like that are probably such an afterthought that people aren't really considering. No one's thinking about checking for cancer right now. They're looking at your eyes to make sure you're not going fucking rip somebody's face off or something.
01:15:37
Speaker
It is pretty um wild. we Like, yeah, it it was a tough scene. This is where, shortly after this, this is where I kind of struggle with the movie a little bit myself.
01:15:54
Speaker
After the mom gets this news, she basically decides in that moment that she's going to end her own... and Like, allow her life to be ended.
01:16:06
Speaker
Basically, like a different form of euthanasia with the doctor. and the issue that I had is just how she was like, I'm going to kill myself now that I have this news.
01:16:19
Speaker
I understand like it's a movie and you probably can't have her be like, let me have three good days with my son before I die. You don't really have the time for that. That's a whole different.
01:16:30
Speaker
That's a whole nother movie you have to show. in order to get all of that across. So you do kind of have to streamline the mom death. And I just didn't like how abrupt it was and how okay she felt with it.
01:16:45
Speaker
And then how okay Spike was with the fact that this man just killed his mom. He had no say in it. She was there and now he woke up and she's gone.
01:16:56
Speaker
And he's very accepting of it immediately. And I mean, it's kind of fucked up. Like he's getting handed her pristine skull a little bit. We do see the skull.
01:17:08
Speaker
He sees the skull process like with Eric earlier and like the scraping of the skin and everything off of it. So like i would be like, damn, I just I know how this process works. I don't want to see my mom's go. That's me personally.
01:17:24
Speaker
But I just I felt like the decision for her to end it was made very quickly. And it like rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. But I found the sentiment beautiful.
01:17:35
Speaker
And I found the shot after like when he puts the skull at the top of the a pile of skulls and it's the sunrise. I thought that shot was very beautiful, too.
01:17:48
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with you because as soon as you know they're trying like they're really explaining to Spike, you know there's no cure for this whatsoever, you know the mom hugs him and she's like, I shouldn't have told you. But then like you see the doctor, he's walking off a little bit and I'm like, is he going to you know shoot her with a dart now to kill her?
01:18:15
Speaker
But didn't expect him to, you know, shoot the dot or dart, whatever, at a Spike just to calm him down. And yeah, that little moment where, you know, the mom has Spike holding the baby and then she's cradling both of them.
01:18:33
Speaker
I'm thinking, okay, they're going to have one last night together. She's going to at least like have you know some tender moment with him that he can hold on you know This whole movie, he was very protective of his mom and wanted to get her better, find her a cure, and now he has to accept that he's going to lose her. and Then it was so abrupt. She just like, okay, well, I'm going to get killed now. and I did not like that scene at all. It was, yeah, I think that decision was made too quickly.
01:19:12
Speaker
She didn't even cry. And in that moment, she was in that reality where she could understand, you know, what was going on She was going to die. She wasn't going to see her son anymore. She wasn't even going to see this baby that she just grew attached to anymore.
01:19:26
Speaker
And she doesn't even like really, think of the dad. like I know the dad was a dick and cheated on her, but like she doesn't even mention him anymore. so it just felt It just didn't feel like fulfilling for me to have that kill scene there.
01:19:44
Speaker
Even... even like Once he shot her, you see like these little rays or like these little balls of light going around everything. i did like Ray Fiennes little setup of well, not little.
01:20:02
Speaker
He has like all these fucking towers of bones and those are all the people that were killed before And, you know, he, you know, burned their bodies, but like salvaged the bones. He made them into like these large ass towers. And then, yeah, the the tower of skulls just looked beautiful on his own, as morbid as it was. But yeah, once the kid, he takes the skull and puts it at the top and kind of faces the skull towards the sun after he kisses it and says, you know, I love you, mom.
01:20:38
Speaker
Even at that point with him, not like he shed a tear. like You could see he's devastated. But like at that moment too, it's like, all right, like he's not a kid anymore. like Throughout this film, like he was still kind of latching on to some childlike habits. But at that moment, no, he he completely grew up. And yeah, that scene with the sunrise ah ah and them just being able to gaze off into it.
01:21:04
Speaker
That was a ah ah good ending to that part, but yeah, her kill scene on its own pissed me off. Yeah, this is the real turnaround point for the son, basically, where he makes the decision to leave everything behind, i would say.
01:21:22
Speaker
And, i mean, a lot of truths about his father have come out at this point. His father wasn't the best equipped in that first hunting situation. His father's cheating on his mom.
01:21:33
Speaker
His father also doesn't seem that interested in him. getting his mom any kind of help. His father lied about the doctor being a genuine
Sequel Speculations and Ending
01:21:40
Speaker
person. And I think, honestly, you know, this perception that we have as an audience that this world outside of their little island is fucked up and people aren't thriving, I think we're going to find out in the sequels that that's kind of wrong.
01:21:57
Speaker
And people have adapted in the years to the world that they're living in. and you know, I think we're going to find out that not everybody's really a bad, untrustworthy person. i I think this, there's going to do a lot of, the sequels are going to do a lot of interesting things with kind of continuing to show Spike that his dad and the life that he lived on that little secluded island is a bit fraudulent.
01:22:32
Speaker
But so basically after all of this stuff, though, we get of my favorite hard cuts in the movie. It's a hard cut to daylight and it's Ralph Fiennes and Spike just jumping into a hole and it's the fucking alpha just book in it for them. This scene was pretty terrifying, I think.
01:22:51
Speaker
Yes, I was like, fuck, Jason Momoa is back and yeah this is the moment where they're all going to die. like How the fuck is this baby asleep throughout all of that though?
01:23:03
Speaker
This baby does not cry at all. The baby was crying at one point. It was... When? When it was born? ah ah Yeah.
01:23:14
Speaker
No, there was... It was when they're talking to Ray Fiennes about something, and there's music playing, and the baby's crying almost blends in with the music to the point where you can barely notice it.
01:23:27
Speaker
But... Yeah, I think it might be when they're talking about the mom's diagnosis. I think the baby's crying is blending in with like really beautiful music. Maybe at some point there where it's just like a symphony of conflicting sounds and images and ideas happening all at once.
01:23:50
Speaker
So this baby is going to cry along with the score and soundtrack of this movie, but it won't cry hearing Jason Momoa going crazy trying to kill these two.
01:24:03
Speaker
i mean, yeah, it's that. Alpha's literally brocking their world. I mean, it reaches down in there and grabs Ray Fiennes. And I thought he was a goner at this point. This was the most scared I was for any character in the movie was when this Alpha had his hands on Ray Fiennes and Spike has to go get one of the morphine injections and get this Alpha, basically.
01:24:28
Speaker
Oh my God. Like I did not think that was going to work, but yeah I'm like, fuck this kid's going to be too late and this guy's going to die. Um, but yeah, that was, man, I was holding my breath at that point too.
01:24:44
Speaker
but yeah, then, you know, Ray finds tells him like, I think it's time for you and the baby to go home and you see, there There wasn't like a struggle or anything. I actually thought the kid was going to try to stay with the doctor, but yeah, he leaves. He leaves um and and he's carries immediately.
01:25:05
Speaker
Yeah, and he's carrying the baby in like a a shopping basket. that I thought that was hilarious. like that. I did too. like he just got back from Target.
01:25:16
Speaker
Right. bought a baby at Target. and Right here, I think, is where it cuts to black and we get a good old fashioned 28 days later. Yeah, so he you hear like a voiceover. he i guess, wrote a letter to his dad.
01:25:34
Speaker
So he left the baby on like the the gate of the ah ah post to their little island, and he was just telling like his dad, like, you know, I'm okay.
01:25:49
Speaker
Don't look for me. You know, I want to keep, you know... walking on the mainland or whatever. I'll come back when I'm ready. He wants to walk till he can't see the shore anymore.
01:26:01
Speaker
Yes. I'm like, you're not coming back. ah but yeah he At least there, he has like some type of... um um I can't think of this word. It starts with an R, but he has like some type of like ah ah not R, closure, ah ah kind of with his dad too, just like, okay, like I'm not going to be like pissed at you.
01:26:26
Speaker
i am telling you I'm okay, and you know what's going on with me instead of leaving you to worry. and i love this because this is also a slap in the face to the dad he's like you know take care of the baby her name is isla and that was the wife's name and it's like damn yeah yeah then the dad treat her nice right exactly she was born of an infected but she's not infected so Then the dad, he's like running to try to see if he could still find him. so
01:26:59
Speaker
Even that moment was a little hard to watch, but you know it's like, well, this whole movie was like watching Spike grow into a man, so you have to let him go at that point. He's growing into a man, and he's discovered that like a lot of what i knew i'm findinging out a lot of what I knew is kind of a lie.
01:27:23
Speaker
There's a whole world out here that I am discovering more and more about, and I kind of want to continue that discovery. My mom was what was holding me here.
01:27:33
Speaker
My dad wants to bang this other chick. I don't really want to be around that. So since I have no mom, no ties to that island anymore, I'm going to venture out and discover what's been kept secret from me my whole 12 years of existence.
01:27:50
Speaker
And the whole 28 years we have not been seeing what's been happening. Yeah, and then weirdest fucking ending, which made me laugh. the weirdest ending. i think the reason The thing that may tank the box office, may single-handedly tank the box office of the next two movies, this ending.
01:28:17
Speaker
So... you You see a Spike, he's trying to just like you know cook a fish over this little fire, but then he sees zombies coming toward him like one by one. He hears a noise. It almost sounds like a person saying, like kind of.
01:28:34
Speaker
It doesn't sound like a zombie, actually. Oh, yeah, that too. I meant to say, Eric does call them zombies in this movie at one point. I did like that too.
01:28:45
Speaker
her Yeah, and it was funny too. One of the guys that I watch on YouTube, Cody Leach, when he did like his review, like a spoiler-free review, he was like basically saying, yeah, someone said zombies in here, and ooh, I know like a lot of you people didn't like that or some shit. like It made me laugh.
01:29:06
Speaker
But yeah, so... What's his name? Spike. He is starting to shoot them, but he's like running off. and Then he gets to like this um um like all these rocks in the road, these like little boulders in the road.
01:29:20
Speaker
It's rocky road, you could say. Yes, exactly. and Then he's getting ready to like start just shooting at the zombies, but then you see this guy up at the top.
01:29:38
Speaker
He looks like he has a very bad blonde wig on, like a jumpsuit, an inverted cross. He's in a purple Jonathan Davis jumpsuit, right Jonathan Davis Adidas corn tracksuit.
01:29:53
Speaker
Exactly. And he was just like, basically, I can't remember what he said word for word, but was like, you know, mind if we help? then Oh, it looks like you could use some help there, love.
01:30:05
Speaker
A bit rude in it. Yeah. I don't even know if he's got a Cockney accent, but he had some accent. there is We didn't even talk about a lot of thick accents, kind of hard to yeah understand everything.
01:30:20
Speaker
Like i i was kind of getting frustrated because I couldn't stand half of the shit that was going on. But yeah, then you see all of these other people jump up that look just like this guy with their track suits, with these fucking weird ass wigs. I'm like, oh my God, he just ran into a cult right now. And he's like, hold it, hold it, you know?
01:30:45
Speaker
but He said like go fucking go or some shit at the end. I don't know the way he just like let them loose. I thought it was amusing. And then like British punk stops, starts playing some like British punk.
01:30:57
Speaker
Yeah, it was so crazy. and Then they're all catapulting with like whatever type of weapon they have. They're doing all these crazy like flips and tricks to kill these zombies and shit. They're like gymnastics beams. Yeah. and they i mean They're winning. They're able to kill off all of them. and Then they all do like this weird little pose at the end.
01:31:22
Speaker
And then the guy comes down and like introduces himself as Jimmy shakes Spike's hand and is like, yeah, let's be friends. I'm like, oh my God.
01:31:35
Speaker
I think that's the kid from the beginning, the one who was hiding in the church. I did not realize that until we started recording. I was like, wait, okay. And that was the name. really? Yeah, I didn't know that until right now. That's why was like, shit, I think I just, I figured it out.
01:31:53
Speaker
Okay. Because they really present his cross necklace. It's inverted on his chest. They're really like flashing it when he first shows up. It's kind of dangling. But then yeah it's like one of the last shots of the movie. They really focus on it.
01:32:10
Speaker
And it's kind of letting you know, like, we're going to get more into what happened on the mainland through this character. Also, shit's a little bit weird on the mainland. Like, these guys, there are people holding on to some stuff. Like, dressing, that people have a look, you know? There's something more than what we imagined.
01:32:29
Speaker
Yeah, that's why originally when, or like right when we watched it, i was thinking like, fuck, he just, he ran into a cult because he has an inverted cross on Like I didn't think of that, but i forgot like the dad gives him the cross in the beginning. And when they were in that, when Spike and his dad are in that one building with the,
01:32:52
Speaker
the body that's suspended, you see the name Jimmy carved in there in his and his torso. And then you even see the name Jimmy like spray painted on one of the buildings. There was like some saying on it. I did see that.
01:33:09
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that's who it is. It's that kid. yeah Okay, yeah wow, that makes sense. Jim, Killian Murphy, his name is Jim too, so I was wondering if that was a nod to that guy, but wow, that was a good catch.
01:33:25
Speaker
Yes, that's what like, wait a minute, I think I just figured it out. but yeah so that was That was an interesting ending. yeah that's all I could say on this ending.
01:33:38
Speaker
I'm still mulling it over a little bit. I don't dislike it. I also, i have an issue, you know, Star Wars did it with one of the TV shows, these post-apocalyptic things where it's like, we're going to form a gang, but we're going to have a specific look that's like, feels like it's from a time. And,
01:33:58
Speaker
I don't know. Part of me wonders, like, yeah, maybe these people have adapted so much to the world that they've been able to kind of take things that they liked as a kid or take imagery. You know, maybe it was the Teletubbies, who knows, but take things that they liked from the real world, the world before, and make it their own and have their own identity. Have a little fun with it. I feel like there's room for that in an apocalypse ah ah scenario that's lasted about 28 years. So...
01:34:25
Speaker
so You know, I'm i'm open to seeing where they go with it. It's not the type of thing that's my jam and the music that they play didn't really help me with it. And it really sends you out of the movie theater feeling kind of strange afterwards. It makes you forget almost how awesome everything before it was.
01:34:46
Speaker
But I'm willing to see where they go with it, even though it's not my thing. i I'm still kind of into it. Yeah, and even in the opening scene where you see all those kids watching the Teletubby show, they're all blonde, and then all group of men right here, they're all blonde. I'm like, all right, they're they're latching on to something.
01:35:10
Speaker
so I think some of them might have been women. I'm not too sure. Oh, I thought they were all guys. I was just more so focused on their dumbass wigs. Yeah, I i agree, but...
01:35:21
Speaker
Yeah, that, you know, right when that ends, the credits start rolling. i actually, you know, I sit, I mean, the credits feeling pretty good when we're done, when we get out of the movie.
01:35:32
Speaker
I don't know about Yeah, you feel the same too? Yeah, it was it was a cool experience. i was i was psyched to go see this movie with you. was actually really funny because once we got to the theater, I saw that we were both rocking some Scream shirts, like Ghostface on our shirts, while we're covering the Scream franchise.
01:35:55
Speaker
Well, we got to, I guess we should announce that on this episode since people may not have listened to our 28 Weeks episode.
Next Podcast Project and Future Excitement
01:36:03
Speaker
Guys, new listeners, anyone who didn't listen to last week's episode, coming up, we're going to be covering the fucking Scream franchise. So stay tuned every Monday for some Scream.
01:36:14
Speaker
But, uh... Yeah, that was kind of a ah ah fun detail. we were both wearing Scream shirts while we're in the middle of recording our Scream episodes. That was unplanned. i didn't even put it together until you brought it up when we were in the parking lot.
01:36:30
Speaker
and That's what got me mad too because i wanted us to take like a stupid picture by like yeah but ah the the poster for 28 years later and of course they didn't have one. I'm like, this would have been perfect for that because of the fact that we were wearing these t-shirts. Oh, man.
01:36:47
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if you told me i would have went and i would have found one i'm pretty sure there would have been one in a hallway somewhere and but damn i don't know we'll we'll photoshop uh us standing in front of a poster at a different movie theater or something yeah we'll figure it out there's always next time yeah but uh you got your final thought you got any final thoughts on 28 years later Although there was a lot of things that I ah ah disagreed with. not and oh I wouldn't say a lot. I'll say a few things that I disagreed with with this movie.
01:37:21
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Some parts really annoyed me. i I love this film. like I still had fun with it. i i I walked out of there having a good time. Yeah, go go watch this film.
01:37:34
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Hell yeah. i you know, I'm right there. i think I might feel a little more strongly about it than you do, but I really, i loved this movie. It was a great time at, it was a great time at the theaters. I'm glad we got to see it together. was a rare,
01:37:51
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rare time for the podcast. I don't know when that'll ever happen again, but I mean, you famously didn't like 28 weeks later much at all. That might be one of your least favorite movies on the podcast, I could probably assume.
01:38:07
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But, uh... You know, we I didn't know how you would feel about this one, but I'm glad that, you know, you're you're right there and loving it, too. That's pretty awesome. And had a great time seeing it with you at a great time talking about it. And I mean, this movie, it does kind of rule. It's going to get a mixed reception. But I mean, I think it kind of rules, you know, it kind of fucks.
01:38:32
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Guys, let us know. Maybe this is going to start getting us giving or getting more people to you know interact with us. like What did you guys think of this film? What do you guys think of 28 Days and Weeks Later?
01:38:49
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Which one is your favorite? Let us know. like Are you on our side with this film? Did you not like this film? What do you guys think? Let us know. Comment on our Instagram page.
01:39:01
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01:39:15
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Tell friend about the podcast. And one final closing statement. I'm so excited for the sequels. I'm so excited to see where the 28 franchise goes.
01:39:27
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I didn't, you know, this was big for me. If you listen to our last couple episodes, these movies were the past two were pretty important to me. Say what you will about 28 weeks. But it, you know, it meant something to me.
01:39:41
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But, you know, I'm glad that this came out. fucking rules, and it feels like it's the tip of the iceberg for what is going to be, like, the Dune or the Lord of the Rings of zombie movies, maybe. I think I have high hopes for the sequels, and, you know...
01:40:04
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I'm going to push for us to maybe cover them as they're coming out in theaters. you know Let's do this again next year. i don't know how you feel, Mercedes, but I'd like to see you next year at the movie theater for 28 years later, The Bone Temple.
01:40:18
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We will. And there's so many and other movies that we're covering that are coming out with another fucking movie soon. So we can go see those as well and then cover them on the podcast too.
01:40:31
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Hell yeah, I'm down. So, guys, old listeners, new listeners, we hope you enjoyed this one. Again, like Mercedes said, let us know what you thought about the movie. Leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts, and we've been Morbid Curiosities.
01:40:47
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Let's fucking go!