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Scream VI
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they wrap up their 5th season of the show by talking Scream VI. The 6th installment in the beloved Scream franchise! They talk what's to love, what's to hate, the behind-the-scenes debacle of the next movie, and what they think Scream VII (Scream 7) could be! All of that, and more.
Stay tuned until the end to hear the announcement of their next season and be sure to see Zach Cregger's WEAPONS in theaters this weekend. It just might get talked about onn the podcast *wink wink*
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Introduction & First Impressions
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up, guys? We are back here at Morbid Curiosities with another episode for you all. I'm Mercedes Martinez, and with me is my awesome co-host, the nefarious necromancer,
00:01:26
Speaker
Nicholas Ewers back here at Morbid Curiosities Inc. Happy to be here. We are back with Scream 6. This was your first time watching this film. What were your thoughts on it Throwing me to the wolves already. Oh, man. It has to be done. It has to be done. Don't be nervous. I'm right here with you.
00:01:49
Speaker
ahll try to I'll try to start off nice just because I don't know exactly where you land. No, be brutal. Be honest. I want your honest opinion. I already got one opinion from you, which I'm very fucking excited to talk about and dive into more detail with that.
00:02:07
Speaker
I want to hear what you think of this film. Go. Okay, we're going for honesty then. I really don't like this movie. This is my least favorite of the Scream movies, I think. I've i've watched it twice so far for the podcast, and...
00:02:25
Speaker
I kind of wish I got to watch it with the director commentary. At first, I did anyway. I looked up some articles, though, like top 50 tidbits you get from the Scream 6 director's commentary. And it didn't really seem like they said anything about the movie.
00:02:41
Speaker
My takeaway is kind of that this thing was pretty rushed. i It came out like a year after Scream 5. And I think that shows this seems like it's the weakest screenplay out of all of them.
00:02:58
Speaker
Like, so this is a franchise that was based on like the horror tropes and really flipping them on their head. And this one just gives into the horror tropes in like a very detrimental kind of way.
00:03:18
Speaker
I think it kind of wastes Jenna Ortega, her ability as an actress a little bit. I don't really like the concept of the core four.
00:03:30
Speaker
ah ah We'll get into that. I don't really think that that's a spoiler. One thing I will give the movie, it's got... I do like that the cast is pretty diverse.
Mixed Feelings and Character Critique
00:03:42
Speaker
It's... uh all people of color i'd say i think that makes the move it makes the movie feel real to be honest and i did enjoy some of the sequences in the movie uh more positive might come out there i don't want to like totally start off being a negative nancy on the thing but yeah mercedes uh what were your thoughts on scream six Damn, I didn't think you were going to flat out like not like the film.
00:04:14
Speaker
Wow, okay. Yeah, I had a lot of issues with this one that we'll get into a bit more, but this one, i it's the only one that's actively like made me mad by decisions the movie was making as it was making them. None of the other movies really gave me that feeling. Three, the ending reveal kind of gave me that, and this movie is like...
00:04:37
Speaker
well what it Remember that the way 3 made you feel at the end? What if this whole movie kind of makes you feel that way? i don't hate this film, but it's also not my favorite.
00:04:51
Speaker
When it came out and I saw it, I i ah already already described it as chaotic to you. It's strange just because now they just take Ghostface and this new crew to fucking New York City. And it's like, you literally just drove a car or like flew across the country to a new environment. and i don't necessarily like when films do that unless they do it within one specific film. like
00:05:29
Speaker
okay so The first one, the cast, they take place in Woodsboro, but then in the second one, they're already in college so you know realistically thinking people go out of state for college if they're dorming you know whatever so that's acceptable but now like I don't know it's just like a year or two later and they're just in a whole other setting it just feels weird it doesn't like blend well to me and Yeah, there are a bunch of parts in here that did piss me off. I don't really like Courtney Cox's character in here.
00:06:13
Speaker
i just don't like it at all, actually. Yeah, Mindy's character, i still am not a fan of in here, probably even more so in here. Yeah.
00:06:24
Speaker
Like, I think they could have done more with Jenna Ortega. I see that they were kind of focusing more so on Melissa Barrera. So, you know, that that part was kind of cool. But still, it's it's just all over the place.
00:06:39
Speaker
I did have some good times with it, but this one, even with the reveal, Not a big fan. But I don't hate it. I do still like it because Jenna Ortega and Melissa Barrera are in here. Everyone else can kind of be cast to the side.
00:06:58
Speaker
So there's a couple things that you mentioned that I kind of want to piggyback off of. You talked about the location, this being set in New York.
00:07:09
Speaker
the There's something that this movie does that's real weird. I wasn't particularly offended or bothered by the New York setting. They didn't really do much with it.
00:07:21
Speaker
Like... The movie felt like it was clearly not shot in New York. I think they shot and I want to say, I read like Montreal, somewhere in Canada, though.
00:07:34
Speaker
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure like a lot of the this movie was shot in Canada. so, yeah, the New York setting didn't particularly bother me that much. They didn't do a whole lot with the setting that I felt like justified such
Woodsboro and Family Dynamics
00:07:51
Speaker
a drastic location shift.
00:07:54
Speaker
We can get into like full on plot details. So spoilers ahead for the movie, by the way. We can get into more plot details a little later on on what they could have done with the city.
00:08:08
Speaker
But there's something that this movie does that I find like kind of annoying is they keep talking about Woodsboro as if like the rest of the franchise has really cared that much about Woodsboro and these things being tied to Woodsboro.
00:08:25
Speaker
the first one it happened in woodsboro the second one they're in college i don't even think they really talk about woodsboro at all in that one the third one they're in l a the only reason why woodsboro is even a thing is because there's a set for one of the stab sequels that takes place in that location so it's like kind of a fun way to get the characters back there but it's still not that location Four, it's more tied to the family than it is the location itself.
00:08:56
Speaker
And then afterwards, it seems like since the film got in the hands of these new writers writers and directors, they've really hammered home this attachment, like, all of this is Woodsboro. It's people who come from Woodsboro.
00:09:12
Speaker
ah Only people from Woodsboro get to be in this crew. Like, that almost comes up at one point. I find it very... odd. I mean, what what are your thoughts on all of that? Yeah, there was even a little line at the end. Sam Carpenter tells tells ah the love interest of hers, Danny, they're about to go in like the little theater, that shrine.
00:09:36
Speaker
And she's like, no, not you. ah ah Because I can't trust you. you know, you're not Woodsboro. And I'm like, wait a minute. What does yeah i'm like who the fuck says that like it just reminded me of fucking shameless where fiona was always like oh are you south side who the fuck from the south side of chicago says that nobody exactly yeah exactly i was just thinking that same thing i'm like we're from a major city and like people don't go like you're not chicago enough it's yeah oh man we say very weird yeah
00:10:10
Speaker
We say you are from the north side or the south side, and then we might you know talk shit about our north side friends. Just saying that because I have a few buddies on here that do live on the north side, so y'all will come out here eventually, I'm just saying.
00:10:28
Speaker
But yeah, so just see hearing that little detail and even with them trying to have like family ties in some of these movies just like really it didn't go well it again even with that it reminded me of uh like how rob zombie can throw out these fucking like really gross ass films but he tries to get like a little family togetherness in there as well Yeah, family togetherness in the midst of his weird like depravity. i mean, you go from having like all these prostitutes, all this gore, everyone like getting fucking shit-faced or high off their ass, and then it goes to... like
00:11:17
Speaker
oh you know Daddy's Hurt and all this other shit. I'm thinking of The Devil's Rejects, even though I really do like that film. but yeah some It's weird shit in there. but you know he's He's artistic and creative in his own way. I do dig his material.
00:11:36
Speaker
At first, I thought you were going to talk about him giving Michael Myers a mom and really expanding on the family stuff within the Halloween movies.
00:11:46
Speaker
Oh, I mean, I can go into that, but I'm trying to save all of those details for when we cover Halloween because I have a shit ton to fucking say about all of those films.
00:11:59
Speaker
I do too. that's I really do too. I didn't really like the family stuff that was happening much in this movie, At all either. Before we get into that. So there was another thing that you had touched on. Not liking Courtney Cox.
00:12:17
Speaker
In this one. I am right there with you. I'm like what are you guys doing. With her character. It's like. You You ah so I already expressed my frustration in the original Scream trilogy. They keep resetting her and resetting her at the beginning of each movie for it felt like we finally got her in a good place.
00:12:40
Speaker
Five. It felt like another reset for Dewey and Gail. But I was like, OK, Gail still has heart. And then Six is just like, let's just take her back kind of as far as we can as a person. she's one She's written another book. They took the ending of the last movie, the ending that they wrote and created themselves, and just threw it in the garbage.
00:13:03
Speaker
It just felt like they totally underserved her character. And I mean, I did like the action scene that she got in her house. I felt like it was very smart. I liked her calling Ghostface back.
00:13:16
Speaker
Yeah, that was a good one. That was a really good move. It was the best character moment they gave her and they kept her alive, even though it's kind of hard to tell. It's like they wanted to just make you forget that they kept her alive just so when they reveal it
Character Analysis: Mindy's Role
00:13:30
Speaker
in the next movie, it'll be a surprise.
00:13:33
Speaker
But I felt like they totally mishandled her and I don't know what their original plan was. For Gail, I know they originally wanted Neve Campbell to be in this movie too, but they didn't offer her.
00:13:48
Speaker
I don't know how much money they offered her, but she said they didn't offer her enough money in comparison for like how valuable she is to the franchise. She didn't feel like it was equal enough. And I totally get that.
00:14:02
Speaker
They choose to bring back other people that they didn't need to bring back who I'm sure that money could have just went to Neve Campbell to get her in this thing. it just feels like this movie was very sloppily handled.
00:14:17
Speaker
Yes, going off of what you were saying about not liking Gale's character, I can't really be on Team Gale in any of these movies because to me, she's just always a bitch in all of them. um um and She may have some parts in there where she seems like you know she has good intentions, but then she just...
00:14:44
Speaker
I don't know. it's always To me, it's always she's just looking out for herself, her career. She wants basically to make all this blood money off of everything that happened while kind of like living a double life and still you know trying to be somewhat of a good person.
00:15:08
Speaker
But you can't be both of those. And just with her in here, it's like, all right, you kind of made it seem like you weren't going to, you know, report the news about anything Ghostface related anymore.
00:15:22
Speaker
But then you ran all the way in the front to fucking interview Sam and Tara after got out of the police department for questioning. So to me, it's like she isn't changing. She's just getting worse with each film. And then in this one,
00:15:40
Speaker
I hated the fact that they right away gave her a new love interest because, yeah, I know her and Dewey were split up from the previous film, but don't know. To me, I think it could have been better without her having one, but it's because I'm always on Team Dewey. That's probably why.
00:16:04
Speaker
It seems like they gave her the love interest just to have someone formidable for Ghostface to kill in her apartment. So it shows like, oh, this guy means business.
00:16:14
Speaker
I didn't much care for her introduction either, though. She just... Kind of slides right in with a microphone and it feels like they're doing that just because that's how she was introduced in other movies. And then she gets, you know, they try to punch her, but oh, she dodged it. Oh, how cute. Then Jenna Ortega gets the punch in.
00:16:35
Speaker
And it's like, feels like you guys, not feels like you guys did that just because it happened in another movie. And this movie is filled with, you're just doing that because it happened in another movie.
00:16:47
Speaker
And that's usually what the Scream franchise tried to be above. They're like, we are taking those tropes, calling them out, flipping them on its head. If we give into the tropes, we're doing it in an interesting way. And we,
00:17:03
Speaker
It like finds a reason to justify giving in to those tropes narratively. And this one just feels like they really didn't know what to do with it, so they unintentionally just gave in to the tropes because they're like, well, this is what Scream does.
00:17:21
Speaker
Can we get into Mindy's character since we're already talking down on Gales? Absolutely. Do you want to start it off and then i I'll take oh go right after you? Yes. We'll each get around but with Mindy. Yes, knock her ass out.
00:17:37
Speaker
With Mindy's character- Again, everyone, have the core four back, which character in here, Chad, Mason Gooding, he self-titles them as the core four. Him, sister Mindy, Tara, and Sam.
00:17:53
Speaker
so I got to say real quick, I don't like the core four thing. and And the core four would be interesting if the moment after they introduce that, they kill Mindy instead of her girlfriend. i was like, that that that's a more interesting way. That's what Scream would do. Like, you know, it flips the trope on its head, but no, it gives in to the trope and is like, no, we're going to keep these characters alive. And it's like, well, that's not...
00:18:20
Speaker
interesting it's like I mean for what I had to say about them killing Randy in Scream 2 at least it was an interesting choice No, I agree on that because when I first heard him say that, it was such a cringy moment. And they even you know make fun of that in there too All the girls are like, yeah, no.
00:18:41
Speaker
But it's like, okay, yeah, we all understand that you guys survived the last movie, but Gail Dewey and Sydney don't refer to themselves as like the original three or like some lucky trio.
00:18:57
Speaker
they're almost cursed with this yeah to an extent. Yes. say something along these lines in part... say something along these lines in part or the last one, part five, where Sam is trying to get Tara out of town. And then Courtney Cox, Gail in there is saying, you know how it always goes back to the original. This is the original. And she points to Sydney.
00:19:24
Speaker
So that's the only time they really reference anything like that. But with this scene, It just seemed super cheesy, didn't need to be in there. I guess it was just to like bring a little like ah ah little humor and again, more of a like of a makeshift family. Is that what you were saying before? Because I can't remember. Yes. That's what they were kind of doing here.
00:19:50
Speaker
We get it. But it it just doesn't, it didn't need to be in there. But yeah, so with Mindy's character, they try to get her to nail down being a randy substitute and i hate that so much her and chad are already supposedly his niece and nephew okay weird detail but whatever so they have that tie now they have the tie and similarities of oh i like to watch all the scary movies i know all the rules blah blah blah
00:20:32
Speaker
She basically takes his place with like explaining all the rules of a franchise and like the requels, whatever, in part five and now in part six.
00:20:45
Speaker
and Her whole speech in here, annoying as shit, especially yes the part where she's like, we're in a franchise.
00:20:56
Speaker
why yeah why I hated that part so much. I wanted to walk out of the theater when I saw that part in theaters. i I forgot that you probably saw this in the theater. Yeah. that Her character from beginning to end, I feel like was just bad instincts making it into the movie. Her and Chad, I mean, Chad...
00:21:22
Speaker
Barely seems like he's her brother most of the movie. they Those characters don't really interact much, and when they do, it's usually like, but you're my brother, you're my sister, or that's my brother, that's my sister. They're usually just telling us who they are in relation to each other.
00:21:40
Speaker
them being related to Randy, mean, doesn't need to be a thing. There's already film bros. She doesn't need to be a film bro just because her uncle was a film bro. Right. What? That's so weird. It's, it's just, but so Mindy, I just find her character to be pretty insufferable throughout these past two movies. She's worse than this one. I agree that her monologue, her monologue,
00:22:07
Speaker
is pretty terrible. it's It's like Jasmine, what's her full name? Jasmine Savoy Brown. she She's a good actress, but like I don't know. In here, they give her too much, and i think it took her like a day and a half to memorize the whole speech she had to give to the new crew here. and It's like, again, you don't have to go so hard into explaining something that the audience probably understands already. Like us as an audience, we go see scary movies to get scared, to have a good time. Yes, there are some people that hold on to, you know,
00:22:58
Speaker
scenes and memories from the original film or even the sequel to it but you do not have to go in on every single part that may or may not be essential for the situation you guys are in now and then yeah it's exhausting at a certain point It is, it's exhausting to just listen to it. and then I'm surprised that Sam and Tara, for how like take no shit attitudes these two characters have, I'm surprised that at no point they don't go and go like, hey, Mindy, shut the fuck up.
00:23:37
Speaker
We're tired of hearing it from you. Exactly, because even part five, she full or just flat out accuses Sam of being the killer.
00:23:48
Speaker
so It's like, yeah, Sam left, but she could have gone off on her at that point. and When she even said that to her, she said it while she was smiling. and Then in this one, her whole speech, she's like,
00:24:03
Speaker
She doesn't you would think all of them would be nervous. They'd be scared, panicked even. But like her, she's very she's doing this very playfully and then more so just, you know, with enthusiasm, explaining it to everybody. Like then even saying like, oh, her girlfriend, who's her new love interest in here.
00:24:26
Speaker
She's like, I can't trust you either because you're new. Never trust the love interest because you can also be the killer. It's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? i In that moment, I wanted to just be like, get out of here. yeah Shush. right go Go over there. you know We don't want to hear it anymore.
00:24:44
Speaker
And then her whole... Like this whole movie, she is like... You're the suspect. ah ah You're the suspect. And she keeps looking at Ethan and is like, you're at the top of my list, which it's like, okay, she calls it ah ah by the end of the movie. Like he's revealed to be one of the killers, but it's still so annoying when she gets stabbed in the subway and is like, I can't believe I got it wrong again and I got the killers wrong in the last movie and then she shows up and then it's like guys guys I figured out the killers it's like oh my god we don't need this fucking energy in here get this chick out of here right and also too
00:25:25
Speaker
Something that really annoyed me was, i just want to talk about this scene and then we can even go back to the intro because I want to talk about the intro too. Yes, sure. but like This one detail where Ghostface is in the apartment with all of them,
00:25:44
Speaker
He slashes Mindy's upper arm and she's in like fucking agony. they keep but cutting the camera back to her face and she's like, you know, complaining. She's like sliding down on the ground, barely moving, you know whatever,
00:26:02
Speaker
Her girlfriend, Annika, gets fucking a knife to the stomach and Ghostface slides that fucker up. So she has gotten it so much worse.
00:26:15
Speaker
She's not even showing that she's in as much pain as as ah um as ah Mindy. So I was like, are you seriously that much of a bitch that the little slice to your arm? Granted, that would hurt.
00:26:28
Speaker
is fucking like making you that handicap that you're struggling to get over on this ladder like i don't know that part pissed me off but i want to go back to that scene after we talk about the intro real quick annika should be on the ground like dying in that moment with how brutal that stab is and mindy I don't like that she totally flubs closing the bathroom door. It's like this character is not a stranger to fucking dead bodies and violence. well I saw the last movie. She was in it with everybody else. Like she should have been faster to close that door.
00:27:08
Speaker
And it's, I just feel like that's bad writing to being like, Oh my God, a dead body. There's a dead body. It's like, right. You've seen this before. You shouldn't be that like paralyzed by the sight of this. But we can go to the intro and then go back around to talk about this scene in whole if
Film's Opening and Missed Opportunities
00:27:28
Speaker
you want.
00:27:29
Speaker
With the intro, we have the lovely Samara Weaving in here, who again is a blonde. You know, she's here, she's at a she's at a bar and the initial phone call you hear is not even to her, it's at the bar.
00:27:49
Speaker
It seems like she's waiting to meet a blind date, essentially someone she met online. and the guy that she was supposed to meet calls her, and she's really nervous, but you know he's trying to tell her, you know I'm lost.
00:28:06
Speaker
They start talking about how she's a college professor teaching like film studies and you know focuses on horror slashers, which is pretty cool.
00:28:17
Speaker
I wish I knew that when I was going into college, I so would have studied that shit. But yeah, the guy, he eventually lures her out to say like, oh, I don't know if I'm at the right spot. You know, what does the front of the bar look like? And then he's able to draw her into an alley.
00:28:37
Speaker
And then he switches to his ghost face ghost face voice, which was such a clever thing to do. And then, yeah she meets her fate in a Fucked up way. I love Samara Weaving's scream. Oh my God, it's beautiful.
00:28:56
Speaker
Her death was pretty fucked up and brutal. I will give these past two movies credit. The death feel very upsetting. The way the knife goes in how much blood. There's blood all over these movies. It makes getting stabbed to look like the worst way you could possibly die.
00:29:17
Speaker
Plus, they're all getting stabbed multiple times, like excessive stab wounds instead of like you know the usual one or two that they would do in the first few. Yes.
00:29:30
Speaker
This intro, the person who she's supposed to a date with is played by Tony Revolori.
00:29:37
Speaker
tony revellari And when his voice came on the phone, i was just sitting there thinking, I know this voice. Who is that? And I didn't look it up. And when the reveal happened, I was like, of course, I know who it is. It's Spider-Man's bully, the bully from the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies.
00:29:57
Speaker
He's also in Grand Budapest Hotel and I think maybe a couple other Wes Anderson movies. So I was like, yeah, I ah ah knew it was a younger actor oh at first. It felt weird that she couldn't tell that it was one of her students that was calling her for the date. Because i don't know if you said that already. It's revealed that it's like one of her students who set her up on the date and was pretending to be Ghostface. Yeah.
00:30:25
Speaker
I gotta say, this lady, like, for teaching course on, like, horror movies or whatever, she's not, like, that well-versed in what goes on. Yeah. it's very i thought she would do better i was pretty disappointed with the fact that she went into the dark alleyway was presented with the silhouette ghost face proceeded to stand there and be all like dumb on the phone get scared for a second continues to stand there just makes it like presents herself to get stabbed by this guy i was like lady
00:31:04
Speaker
What the fuck are you doing? Oh, very frustrated with how that first half of the intro played out.
00:31:14
Speaker
I liked where it went from there, though. I like how they double down on the intro a little bit, and they take it in directions that I didn't expect it to go in. But did you enjoy the first half of the intro? Were you a fan of everything leading up to Samara Weaving's death?
00:31:30
Speaker
I was just because, you know, it wasn't how these films typically start. And then you get more of that when, you know, Ghostface is about to stab her one last time. He's like, now I see something red. And you're thinking, okay, like with the camera angle, they're about to give us the title card.
00:31:52
Speaker
And they don't. They're just on Ghostface. And you're like, wait, the film freeze. Like, what happened here? But then... You see him taking off his mask. I'm like, wait, what the fuck? Like, i don't want to know who the killer is right away. That's going be so weird for the entire movie.
00:32:09
Speaker
I liked that part of it when he took the mask off. I was like, oh, we're getting the killer reveal right away. Kind of like what I thought at the beginning of scream for with one of the fake outs. I was like, oh, they're doing this. This is a cool idea.
00:32:22
Speaker
Like letting the audience know. I think they could do something interesting with it, but they don't ever see that through. Yeah, I was not ready for that because I was hoping it wasn't going to be the killer because, yeah, that just sort of threw me off, honestly. But I mean, that's cool that you liked it. I yeah, I'm happy it didn't go that route that it was trying to take. What did you think of the second half of the intro?
00:32:51
Speaker
I dug the second half for the most part. Basically, Tony Revolori's character goes back to his apartment and he gets a call from another ghost-faced sounding person. and Basically, you find out that he's got another friend he's been doing this with. They're friends of Richie who want to try to complete his movie, Richie the killer from the last movie.
00:33:14
Speaker
And i liked the phone call they were having where he was like, oh, it felt great. Like, she was human, and the more I stabbed her, she wasn't human anymore. Just an animal, and then just a sack of meat, or whatever he said. It's really fucked up in...
00:33:33
Speaker
An interesting kind of way. I liked the idea of exploring this. And then it turns out it's not his friend. His friend is mutilated in a fridge. Like his whole body has been chopped up and is in a fridge. And then Ghostface comes and kills him. And he's like, what about Richie's movie? And Ghostface is like, who gives a shit about movies? And uh, it kills that guy, which is weird now to say when you know the reveal, I guess we can say it now. The reveal is that it's, uh, Dermot, uh, Mulroney's character. He's a detective.
00:34:08
Speaker
and his daughter Quinn and, uh, his son, Ethan, they're all relate family members of Richie father and siblings. And so it's weird knowing that like they he only kills these people because they were going to kill Sam and Tara before them.
00:34:28
Speaker
Why not try to get them in on your ghost face thing? like that I didn't even think about that until now, but I was kind of hoping they were almost going to do like a cult of ghost face type thing where...
00:34:41
Speaker
but It was really going off of like the Richie thing where other people were radicalized and it's this whole internet movement of people being like, Sam is the real criminal here. We need to go after her. I thought there was like interesting groundwork and instead it's like ah ah father who's upset about his son. We'll get into that later, but man.
00:35:05
Speaker
I mean, what are your thoughts on the second half? I liked it up until that very end part where he's like, who gives a fuck about movies and they kill him because im ah ah it felt like they were taking an interesting idea and throwing it away very early on.
00:35:18
Speaker
No, I like that Ghostface killed them off, but like to your point on that, though, they could have, or the three could have pinned all these murders on those two, just kind of use them as like they're like puppets in a way. Like, yeah, you know, these are the people we want to kill.
00:35:38
Speaker
And then once they executed all their plans, then they can, I don't know, kill off those two. And that way no fingers would have pointed to the three that did happen to be Ghostface.
00:35:53
Speaker
That could have been like another storyline detail that they could have followed. Who were they trying to pin it on at the very end? I thought they were trying to pin it on those two, maybe.
00:36:05
Speaker
It's all kind of s slipping from my mind right now. They were just trying to pin it on Sam, I believe, because at the end they were trying to get her to put on Billy's mask.
00:36:18
Speaker
And they never really say why but I'm assuming it's just so her DNA can be on it and they can use that to their advantage. Well, they even pivot at one point and try to pin it on Kirby, too. But I guess that's just for Sam and Tara to throw the other characters off.
00:36:38
Speaker
And maybe not the law enforcement. But it fully does, at a certain point, make you feel like Kirby might be the one doing this. Also, like, spoilers, they bring Kirby back in this movie. Mm-hmm.
00:36:51
Speaker
in a way that feels almost like totally totally wasted. Anybody could have been that character. ah They didn't really do anything with it being Kirby and a survivor of all of this.
00:37:05
Speaker
Yeah, when they brought her back and you know Sam says, oh yeah, she was a senior when I was a freshman, I don't think they needed to have that line in there either because it's like, okay, all of you guys were from Woodsboro.
00:37:23
Speaker
That's history enough. You guys have all had an encounter with Ghostface. That's history enough. But I don't know, little details like that that they keep trying to force in like I was saying with Mindy's speech, with this, like there's so much that does not need to be in here.
00:37:42
Speaker
And then, yeah, with Kirby's, you know, reappearance in here, i know a lot of people were happy because she was a fan favorite from part four.
00:37:53
Speaker
But... Yeah, they didn't really do much. Yeah, she was a detective, but like half the time she's not even in the film. And if she is, it's kind of like she's just a bogus side character. you know She talks about like all the killers when her and Detective Bailey have all the pictures up of everyone who portrayed Ghostface at one point.
00:38:20
Speaker
And then... She talks to Mindy when they were in the ah ah theater with the Ghostface Shrine, which I really fucking loved. I'm not going to lie.
00:38:31
Speaker
But they don't do much with her. She talks to Tara a little bit on how she overcame, you know, her victim trauma. But they they wasted her coming back, honestly.
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah, and the overcoming the victim thing doesn't really connect much at all for me in that scene. And it's back to back between, it's like there's two heartfelt moments. Sam has a heartfelt moment with, I don't remember who it was.
00:39:02
Speaker
And then it goes to Tara. Gail, I think. Yeah, it is Gail, right? Yeah, it was her because then they started talking about like, I think it was because Gail asked like where her and Tara's mom was.
00:39:15
Speaker
And she basically said, like, you know, she's not in our lives. But then Gail was like, you know what? Fuck her You can make your own family, even if it's just with one person.
00:39:26
Speaker
and then you hear the little, you know, theme song from Dewey's character. Yeah, they didn't give Dewey a theme song actually until the last movie from what I heard in the commentary. They plucked it from a small moment in one of the sequels that Dewey has, like a little bit of music plays. And they're like, what if we gave Dewey a theme based off of that?
00:39:46
Speaker
Right. Which I thought was pretty cool. That Gale scene and the Kirby scene felt forced and just kind of felt pretty flat for me. Gale, I mean, I want to say she makes a reference to a mom that we don't even hear of. Gale's like, my mom sucked too or something like that.
00:40:03
Speaker
I was like, well, that doesn't mean anything to us. And yeah, the Kirby scene, she doesn't really seem like she's been through much of a traumatic experience. She seems like she's doing pretty okay, which I guess therapy would do that. And she's like, I've dedicated my life to this.
00:40:20
Speaker
it just I don't really feel it in the energy or feel it in the performance. She doesn't quite feel like the Kirby from Scream 4. And she doesn't feel like someone who's believably been changed by this thing in the way that Sidney in the last movie felt like she had organically been affected by this. And Neve Campbell felt like she really embodied everything this character had been through.
00:40:49
Speaker
They were just brought back just as like legacy characters. Okay, these or Kirby was like a crowd favorite. Let's bring her back. That way we don't have like like a redo of what happened with Randy, essentially. But even just those details of how they're trying to like you know have Mindy be a Randy substitute or how they had that picture of Randy in his sister Martha Meek's house,
00:41:18
Speaker
I don't know. just There's so much in these past two films that did not need to be in there.
Killer Reveal and Logic Flaws
00:41:23
Speaker
I keep saying that, and I sound like a broken record. I'm sorry, but it's frustrating to see that shit.
00:41:28
Speaker
and a A lot of this stuff, especially with like Kirby... It feels like they had an idea. They're like, wouldn't this be really cool to have in the movie?
00:41:41
Speaker
ah ah Kirby or like different set pieces or even the idea they had for the reveal. They all seem like they were like, all right here's some cool ideas we want to do.
00:41:52
Speaker
And it seemed like they wrote a first draft and then they never got to write anything beyond that. A lot of it just feels like first draft attempts at these ideas. And they maybe just needed a couple more cracks at it to really figure out how they could have really brought Kirby in an interesting way or what they really could have done with Gale Weathers or these characters. or even i mean I don't know about you, but I feel like the reveal in this one is the worst.
00:42:20
Speaker
How do you feel about the reveal? The reveal is pretty weak to me because Dermot Mulroney's character, i like him in other films. so Seeing him in here, it wasn't terrible, but just as he just starts descending into madness because you know his daughter was killed and he's like, oh, that makes two of my kids killed, whatever.
00:42:47
Speaker
It just doesn't sound natural. Like, even when he tells Sam, like, oh, if you fuck with my family, you die. That just, it he it wasn't executed well.
00:42:59
Speaker
And then all of a sudden, he's in, like, a, you know... little playful mood when him and his two kids are revealing that all three of them were Ghostface.
00:43:16
Speaker
When they had Ethan's character, yeah when he reveals himself, I'm like, this feels like another Roman type of reveal where it's like, oh, yeah, you were a new character in here that we were introduced to and you're the killer. For a second- When Ethan takes off his mask, I was like, wait, who is that guy again? i had to pause it and look up like the characters and be oh yeah, that was the roommate who like everybody's like kind of like, who's this fucking dweeb? Fuck this guy. Exactly.
00:43:52
Speaker
Exactly, because at least in Scream 3, Roman was bitching in almost every fucking scene he he was in, so that kind of made him relevant, but you at least you remembered who he was, but it made no sense for him to be the killer because he never met Sidney in these films.
00:44:14
Speaker
And in here, it was like, wait, yeah, who the fuck was this kid again? Like, oh, yeah, you know, the few scenes he was in with the few lines he had. He spends the whole movie, every scene he's in, just being like, wait a minute, what do horror movies do? Horror movies do this. Why did everyone react when the phone went off? How come people are looking at me weird? It's like...
00:44:38
Speaker
Jesus, kid, from just the ground up, this character sucks. And then they picked him to be the villain. It's like, or one of the villains. It's awful. Yeah, it's like his lines in here are basically the only purpose they serve is to kind of be like, hey, guys, don't forget about me. I'm still in the room.
00:44:58
Speaker
That way, when his reveal is done, you can think like, oh, yeah, you know, it was him. But it's like, you're not a memorable enough character for that.
00:45:08
Speaker
And they just do the same thing with him and his sister that they did in the last movie where it's just, oh, they were people that found you online and are now your roommates or are close with you to some extent. It's very close to that. i I felt like there were other missed opportunities in there too with Dermot Melroni's character. I felt like he... Like, there was a point where I was thinking about this movie and I was like, make him Richie's dad.
00:45:38
Speaker
Make him a good guy that we're questioning the whole time who genuinely wants to... who's like I saw this movie called Mass that's about two families coming together. It's the parents of a school shooter and parents that are parents of the victim of one of the shooters.
00:45:57
Speaker
And they meet and are like reckoning with, like how could your son do this? And the parents are reckoning, we brought this kid into the world. And it's a devastating movie.
00:46:08
Speaker
And I was like, it would be interesting if they really took a father grieving over Not the loss of his kid, but the kid who his son ended up becoming and him wanting to maybe do right by society or, you know, do right by Sam and Tara and you're questioning him the whole time.
00:46:31
Speaker
But they... didn't It's just like so convoluted, the most convoluted these movies have gotten with the reveal. He's like, my son loved movies and he loved these movies in particular. And I love my son. So I must therefore turn my whole family on my side to come and kill the people who killed my son. It's so fucking off the wall. Like, ridiculous.
00:46:59
Speaker
And I have more to say about that, but do you have anything to add before I continue to dig into this? There were just some, like, continuity errors that, like...
00:47:11
Speaker
were just bothering me. For him to be the detective on the case while his daughter was involved with it, like that wouldn't happen. Here's Evie exiting the room. yeah I don't know if you can hear that.
00:47:25
Speaker
Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, making her presence known, of course. But one fan. i know we should. i know we said we can get her like a ghost face costume, but we should make her like a little shirt with our logo on it. I think that'd be cool.
00:47:42
Speaker
Or we make her the shirt. She's on it. And it's morbid curiosity is number one fan. That's true. I think people would like that. Guys, what do you think? Would you want my dog, Evie, a little pit bull who's a demon, realistically, on a shirt with our logo Morbid Curiosities on it? Let us know in the comments on our podcast page, Morbid underscore Curiosities underscore POD. Let us know.
00:48:09
Speaker
i think I have to put another picture up on her of her on there as well. so Yeah, I'll probably do that. Do it. Yeah. But yeah, so that detail like annoyed me.
00:48:20
Speaker
And then also... I heard or i was watching when this came out, a review on it by Cody Leach, and he had mentioned on there the part where Quinn is in her bedroom and she's on the phone with her dad. And she says like, well, you're the police. Can you like look in on her or whatever?
00:48:46
Speaker
Whatever she says, it's like, you guys are both ghost face. So why is this scene in here? It's literally in here only for the audience, but it did not have to be in there. didn't make sense.
00:49:00
Speaker
That's a good catch. I didn't even notice that. But that's what I mean about it being like first draft shit where they overlook stuff like that. I mean, another big like weird thing having to do with them being father and daughter is The moment when they're all at like the kitchen table or whatever in their apartment and they think that her roommate is getting fucking railed by one of the dudes she's been banging throughout this movie. One of the 12 dudes she's been banging throughout this movie.
00:49:34
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like, but it's not, it's actually her dad as ghost face in there. And so it's weird how that whole scene is set up though. It doesn't really make sense to me because I'm like, what are these characters thinking? So it's like ah ah her, Sam's boyfriend is in his own apartment, looking out the window across into Quinn's bedroom And he sees Ghostface just creeping in the bedroom. Her boyfriend's in the shower. Don't know how her boyfriend didn't notice Ghostface at all in the room at any point. He must have been chilling in the closet. did
00:50:12
Speaker
Was he standing there like being like, okay, I'm going to stand here until Sam's boyfriend walks in and notices us in the fucking mirror and then I'm going to hold you up so he can take a perfect picture and send it to Sam and we'll stage this death and I'll cut it was just I don't know what they planned to happen in there but the setup just felt so sloppy yeah so that part was weird and then that point too Think about it
00:50:42
Speaker
You know, you and your dad are serial killers in here. But this whole scene you're trying to act out is you sleeping with someone.
00:50:54
Speaker
How did you come up with that idea to let your dad know like, hey, so we can act out like... that I'm sleeping with someone and they'll think it's totally normal because I do it all the time.
00:51:05
Speaker
the fuck kind of relationship do you have with your dad to have that type of communication going on? No. Well, even, i mean, it's not revealed that Ethan's her sister, but even when Ethan is around, there are points where they're like, well, Quinn's a fucking slut.
00:51:21
Speaker
It's like, That's her brother. So he has to hear all of that. And then, yeah, so she's simulating sex noises while her dad is sitting there pretending to be Ghostface.
00:51:34
Speaker
And it's just like... Also... Did your dad hang out in the closet while you were having sex with that boy Right. That's very like weird. The whole setup is weird. It seems like the writers didn't think about the circumstances surrounding that staged kill of Quinn.
00:51:53
Speaker
That whole thing was weird and even the scene after it, I have mixed feelings
Intense Scenes and Fake-out Deaths
00:51:59
Speaker
about. so you know Ghostface is there doing his thing, killing people, and then we're back at the part where- Doing his thing.
00:52:10
Speaker
Yeah. And then we're back at the part where Mindy gets her arm slashed. Annika gets her fucking stomach gutted, essentially.
00:52:19
Speaker
And then Sam's love interest, Danny, is across the like the you know opening of their apartment, whatever. And fucking has a big ass ladder in his apartment and is able to just like extend it across the windows that way they can all crawl over there that was such a strange setup like I kind of like the scene because it's very fucking nerve-wracking but it was so weird at the same time
00:52:50
Speaker
So the intensity of it, I kind of liked. I like a good ghost face chase. I mean, compared to the stuff that Wes Craven's done, this doesn't really hold a candle.
00:53:01
Speaker
What ramps up the intensity is just that like half of the group has been stabbed. So they're all screaming their fucking eyeballs out. They're at the whole time. So it makes the scene feel very intense. There's a lot happening.
00:53:16
Speaker
They're trying to keep ghost face from getting into the room. They could have barricaded that better. i was thinking, push the whole bed in front of that door and then push the fucking shelf in front of the other door.
00:53:30
Speaker
Like, you know, work a little harder. Push everything you've got in front of these doors. I liked how intense that scene felt, but i I didn't fully believe it. The boyfriend, why does he have a ladder? He lives in the second floor of an apartment.
00:53:47
Speaker
I get having like a step stool or something or like a two or three step ladder. What do you need a full a ladder that fully extends for in a New York apartment?
00:53:58
Speaker
That seems just kind of odd. and Then on top of that, it's the most flimsy ladder in the existence of human history. I've never seen a ladder that flimsy.
00:54:09
Speaker
i One random thing I do want to say about this, and it's going to come off super sappy, but i don't know. i just I like this part. so you know You have... you know, Melissa or the the Sam, like they've already established that her and this guy, Danny, have been hooking up. But, you know, they got their own little secret like relationship going on when he has the ladder extended over and then is getting her to come across. Like, obviously, she's scared out of her mind.
00:54:45
Speaker
But, you know, he's like, you know, I got you, baby. I got you. I love that he called her that because you don't have that in any of these films. Like even when, um um you know, you have moments between like Gail and Dewey, their little romance going on or Sydney and her love interest in different movies, like you don't have any type of like affectionate pet names.
00:55:11
Speaker
And I don't know why. i just love that in here. And I think that because of what Melissa Barrera had to go through because... A lot of people didn't like her performance in Scream 5.
00:55:27
Speaker
So when she was kind of like expressing to Tara at the table, you know, this really sucks that the world hates me, essentially, that was kind of like bleeding in from what was being said about her in real life and her acting performance So, her going through that, being scared for herself, for her sister, for her friends, and just the intensity of that scene, that little like line alone, i don't know.
00:55:57
Speaker
I liked it. it It worked for me. Random detail, I know, but yeah, that was just what I wanted to say on that. I'm glad you called it out. I gotta say I really like it too. It feels like a real moment of intimacy, like you said, more than these movies have really gotten to have, and it...
00:56:16
Speaker
Seems believable, too, because I'd say in a high stress stress situation like that, something you really feel would come out in that moment, something really genuine. You probably like if that's what you call this person, that's probably what would come out in the moment.
00:56:32
Speaker
So I thought that ah it it was very nice, very touching. I'm glad that you you called that out. what follows in that scene. got to say too, relationship wise, I didn't mind Mindy and Annika. I liked Annika a lot as a character.
00:56:46
Speaker
I feel like this scene is 10 times better if you killed Mindy off instead of Annika. Yeah. And I'll, I also don't really like that Annika, she's crossing the ladder when Ghostface comes up behind her.
00:57:04
Speaker
Everybody freezes and makes a face and she stops and is like, what? Why are you guys making that face? Or why are you guys looking at me like that? She says something along those lines. And I just was like, come on. This movie, it's got a lot of that shit where characters stop to say something. Oh, man.
00:57:22
Speaker
And yeah, that kind of took away from the moment a little bit. But yeah, I thought it was pretty sad when Annika died. Yeah, I hated that part because it's like... Clearly, she knows she's at a disadvantage more so compared to Mindy because she has been you know stabbed more.
00:57:44
Speaker
But it kind of seemed like she was telling Mindy to go because she knew she wasn't going to make it. And then it sucked because once she was on the ladder and like trying to crawl her way over there, she was just like, you know I don't want to die.
00:57:59
Speaker
yeah I don't know. I feel like... Adrenaline would be kicking in at that point, like, let me hurry up. But then at the same time, her she did have a knife like fucking dragged up her stomach. So has to be in an immense amount of pain.
00:58:15
Speaker
so Yeah. yeah And then having to crawl over there would suck. Well, the movie doesn't really distribute pain too well throughout this movie. And yeah what I mean by that is Annika, I mean, she is like screaming and is selling it pretty well to an extent. I feel like she should just be gushing blood because of how badly she got stabbed.
00:58:40
Speaker
And I think she should probably be on the floor and not be capable of moving. But then later in the movie on the subway in one of the most painfully boring subway sequences I've seen in horror. I can't believe the underutilization of a subway in this movie.
00:58:59
Speaker
She gets stabbed and like pretty bad and it's just like sitting there and is like sweating like, oh, my God, I'm going to die. And then you see her at the end of the movie and she comes up and it's like, hey guys, does a backflip. And it's like, I know who half of the killers are.
00:59:15
Speaker
And it's like, what the fuck? This character is this mobile after being stabbed like six hours ago? What the fuck? Exactly. Like that part was so stupid. Again, all the fake out deaths are so annoying. Like even with Chad, he fucking gets stabbed by two ghost face.
00:59:35
Speaker
and he lives okay yeah i didn't think we needed chad to get it that much it felt like they were really making him the dewey in that moment when they were decided they weren't going to kill him i like that they ultimately didn't but the way that they his fake out was just so over the top and really like dramatic in a way it i didn't love it I do like the moment that he had with Jenna Ortega, though. Jenna Ortega really fucking sold it and is kind of acting him out of the water in that scene, like the Raisinets scene.
01:00:15
Speaker
You know, I mean, they fucking clearly. if That's what the that's what the candy was Raisinets. Yeah, they had Raisinets. I was like, so we got some Raisinette fans in this movie.
01:00:28
Speaker
The only reason they didn't eat them is because of how old they were. But you see, that was the only candy they had, meaning no one likes Raisinets? No, that was a fully stocked bar of old candy, and they went for the Raisinets. They were like, what do we grab?
01:00:43
Speaker
And they just they grabbed the Raisinette, the classic movie theater candy. Oh, my God. ah ah They are on my side. Your beloved Jenna Ortega is on my side in this argument.
01:00:58
Speaker
Nanana boo-boo. hell up. Secret head and doo-doo.
01:01:03
Speaker
Shut the fuck up. I really like how she is... She's like, you can have it. This is old-ass candy if you're into that kind of thing.
01:01:14
Speaker
It was like very... I was like, they must improv'd this. This is so like real. Maybe it was written, but that was like the best... moment they really gave Jenna Ortega. It's the moment where it's like, oh, they're actually giving her something to do as an actor now.
01:01:30
Speaker
I didn't expect her and Chad to have like a little budding romance once it started happening in the beginning. I was like, okay, I didn't expect that. and Then I find out that no one really expected it. but They do sell it really well. it They have...
01:01:46
Speaker
a decent amount of chemistry where you can think like, all right, I can believe this. And yeah, with Jenna Ortega's acting, like she just she is phenomenal in whatever she does.
01:01:59
Speaker
Yeah. With them just like trying to kill off Chad. and don't know. They could have did that with Mindy.
01:02:09
Speaker
and just killed her and I would have been okay like they could have had a scene where you know you have Chad lamenting over her getting stabbed but no we got all the fake outs and Mindy's horrible horrible one-liners and speeches and Yeah, they set up this whole, like, core four thing, and it's like, I guess you can't kill the core four, and wonder how far that's going to go in the next movie, considering your two lead actresses aren't fucking returning. Right. We can get to that at the end of the episode more, all of what ah ah went on behind the scenes after this movie came out, but...
01:02:52
Speaker
Yeah, the Chad fake hat I didn't love. They make you think Gail's dead, but she's not actually dead, even though we don't really see her. They just kind of say, like, she's got a little bit of a pulse, and then there's a phone call where they're like, Gail also survived. And it's like, oh, that's kind of lazy. I yeah feel like you'd give her a little bit more then And Gail's alive, too. Right, like, something...
01:03:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, you know, she came back for whatever you guys fucking paid her. But she also is a Friends alumni and doesn't need a payday like Neve Campbell. They should have just paid Neve Campbell what she wanted, which is probably about the same amount as Jenna Ortega was getting, I'd assume, for this movie.
01:03:37
Speaker
Pinning it on Kyle. Kyle has a fake out, too. They make you think she's dead. This movie doesn't really kill anybody that you care about. I do just want to touch upon the theater and the shrine itself because i was being such a geek when I saw that for the first time. It's like if I could see that in real life, I'd have like such a stupid grin on my face because that's pretty much how I looked when I watched it for the first time in theaters and then rewatching it now.
01:04:08
Speaker
je They all enter the theater where someone had this entire shrine built with all the ghost face from the past in there. And then they have the stage with the curtains rising and you see all these mannequins that had every killer's ghost face costume.
01:04:32
Speaker
But all the masks are missing because in each murder in this film, you have one of the masks being left behind. that way it's just kind of throwing off the police.
01:04:43
Speaker
It felt like a dumb franchise thing to do that where it's just like ah ah you could have the shrine. why is Why are they leaving behind the old masks? though It felt ah so pointless.
01:04:57
Speaker
It did because it's like they can't really say, oh this person's alive, this person's alive, or they don't really even try to go in on that. Everyone thinks Stu's alive.
01:05:09
Speaker
And with the little clip I had posted about Matthew Lillard, he did say, you know, stew does return and scream seven so it's like all right cool but for this yeah they don't really lean into any of the killers being alive from the past in this one so yeah there's no point for them to like leave the masks behind and and then for the final one to be left
01:05:40
Speaker
for Sam was Billy's mask. Made no point. So yeah, if they had all the masks on in the shrine, I think that would have been so much more effective.
01:05:52
Speaker
Yeah, just seeing all the like little drawings and clothing, all the little pieces of evidence from all the other murders. I thought that was cool to see.
01:06:05
Speaker
and Then, i don't know. I feel like they could have done more with that shrine sequence, but that's just my opinion. The shrine sequence, a little bit of the power was lost on me.
01:06:18
Speaker
when it came to that stuff just because of that's where we really start to bring billy loomis back into it is when they get to the shrine they really start to do a lot of billy loomis stuff that kind of annoyed me and it took away from how cool the shrine was because i mean yeah if that existed in real life there should be like a movie museum where they have that scream shrine up there something that you can go to visit paramount like fucking get on it what are you doing Right.
Hallucinations and Setting Shortcomings
01:06:45
Speaker
But Sam starts seeing reflections of Billy and he's like, come on, father, daughter, the Loomises are back together being a family of killers.
01:06:54
Speaker
You know, it's so fucking weird. Billy Loomis was a murderer and the rapist of Sydney's mom. And it's so weird that they feel the need to have this dude fucking hanging around.
01:07:07
Speaker
in flashbacks it feels kind of tasteless honestly it feels like it's bad sequel instincts kind of like what i was saying about in the last review when they were referencing sequels movies that had sequels and how we have to go based off of what those movies have done like legacy sequels basically The last movie talks about how they have to do what the legacy sequels that came before have already established.
01:07:39
Speaker
But most of what those legacy sequels have done before has been bad and poorly received. And this these past two movies fully leads into some of the worst aspects of legacy sequels.
01:07:51
Speaker
And the Billy Loomis thing, like when he's like, come on, grab a knife and fucking kill everybody on your way out the door. I'm getting the lines wrong, but it's something like that. And then she grabs and he's like, good choice.
01:08:04
Speaker
That's my favorite. And it's just so gross and bad. i don't like it at all. Yeah, it didn't work in part five. It doesn't work in here.
01:08:17
Speaker
It's just it's so stupid. But let's talk about the dreaded subway scene. I want to hear your thoughts on that. Before we get into that, one last thing about the shrine that annoyed me.
01:08:30
Speaker
Kyle pushes over the TV that Stu was killed with to deliver the final blow. That's another thing where it's like you guys are just doing it because another movie in your franchise did it.
01:08:43
Speaker
You guys have been above this this whole time. And now six movies deep you're choosing to do this. It's the same issues I had with alien Romulus. Actually, that movie did the same thing where alien was never a franchise that was about homage and dedicating itself to the other movies. It was always about burning down what came before and establishing something new. And scream was always kind of about, again, flipping these tropes on its head. And it,
01:09:14
Speaker
really just gives into this shit so hard and don't let me forget I have theories for what I think Scream 7 is going to be and the possible return of Stu let's touch back around to that after the subway scene Did you say Kyle? I meant Kirby. I've been doing that outside of the recording. I'm mixing up fucking Kyle from Child's Play 2 and Kirby.
01:09:41
Speaker
Because i was like, who the fuck is Kyle? Am I missing someone's name? yeah yeah Yeah, sorry. Yeah, let's talk about the subway scene because...
01:09:52
Speaker
I at least like the fact that everyone is essentially decked out in a costume. Like I shit you not Halloween is not the way it used to be anymore.
01:10:07
Speaker
no one really cares even for halloween parties i find it rare when someone throws one so the fact that they were all starting off at a halloween party in the beginning of this movie i thought was cool i i do agree with you halloween's not the same when i was a kid i felt like halloween day there would just be kids in the streets it would just be like a mess of kids it was crazy And now it's like cold and it's just like parents who are taking their like babies for their first like trick or treat or something.
01:10:39
Speaker
Yeah. Even my early 20s, was just like, I want to have a Halloween party. And I think I hosted two of them where I actually decked out the house and I was telling everyone like our costume is fucking mandatory. Like don't show up here without one.
01:10:56
Speaker
yeah. yeah like We need more of that. Guys, do not let Halloween die. oh my God. but Anyway, we have a lot of costumes in here that um pay homage to like all the other great films. so You got Michael Myers in here. There's Freddy Krueger in here.
01:11:17
Speaker
Someone even dressed up as Wednesday in the beginning. Jenna Ortega. She should have dressed up as Wednesday. Yes. She would have made a great one stay in here. My girlfriend noticed Michael Myers and I rewound it and I didn't see him and I'm like, I don't i didn't i don't know if he's there.
01:11:33
Speaker
Yeah, very briefly, he's in there. You have May Queen from... How do you pronounce it? Midsommar? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that. so Okay, so I should have paid more attention. I just didn't even look at the background actors because I was pretty just frustrated with the movie at this point.
01:11:50
Speaker
One thing I did notice in all the flashing is... The little boy from Us, someone was dressed up as him because you get a good like direct shot of his face in the dark subway as all the lights are flashing.
01:12:05
Speaker
It's only one I noticed. I didn't see that one. i saw... Fucking Babadook was in there. He was in there. Who else am I missing? There was like a bunch of people in there too and I can't remember the rest of them. But yeah, and then you have a million people dressed up as Ghostface apparently then everyone kind of hallucinating who the real one is and who isn't.
01:12:26
Speaker
That's an issue I have too. like All these people dressed up as Ghostface. there On the news at one point, there are news anchors in the background being like, Ghostface masks are through the roof.
01:12:38
Speaker
I've got mine. And then the other anchors like, I've got mine too, Chad. Or whatever. and it's just like, that's fucking sick. it should that should This should be illegal. like Not illegal, but they shouldn't... like Have these on shelves.
01:12:52
Speaker
I don't think in real life if people like if people were getting store bought masks and like committing murders in them over the course of decades that these would be allowed in stores anymore.
01:13:05
Speaker
Right. They made um made um a point to say that in Terrifier 2, when what's his name, Jonathan wanted to be the Miles County clown and Sienna was like, no.
01:13:17
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And when she was telling the mom, she was like, no one dresses up as Jeffrey Dahmer or whoever. Yeah, so it's like... You would think they wouldn't sell that costume. Or you would think they would sell like a variation of it. Like, you know, you had... Sorry to interrupt. like Two real-life serial killers with...
01:13:40
Speaker
that That dressed up that you don't see people dressing up as because it would be deeply fucked up. Like the Zodiac Killer had a look at one point. Like, but just I think one of his killings, he he was dressed up in like a ski mask and all this shit.
01:13:56
Speaker
And then John Wayne Gacy is the other one. He had like a specific clown look. And you don't see those two getting portrayed in any type of... Nobody dresses up as that. It'd be fucked up.
01:14:09
Speaker
Exactly. And at least with Ghostface, there are different variations of the mask because when Scream came out, then you saw or you would see like, OK, the regular Ghostface mask, but then you saw the one that you could press the little button and then blood just comes down the mask.
01:14:28
Speaker
They have different color masks. I think even in part five, His mask is silver. It looks like it's chrome in there. I could be wrong.
01:14:38
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But yeah, they have different ones. So it's like you would think there would be a variety of that on the subway. But, you know, I guess it was just to, you know, keep throwing the characters off of, oh, is this the real ghost face? Is he in here? You know, whatever. And then Mindy just is even more annoying in this part, too. So, yeah, I'm happy she got stabbed.
01:15:03
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Yeah, and this is where they really kind of try to make it clear it couldn't have been Ethan. I don't know, but his character could have just gone. I thought they were going to do something more interesting. There's like so many people.
01:15:19
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i thought it was going to be a bunch of different people in different train cars, and maybe there's two ghost faces on the train, and it's them trying to get off in time, and it ends up And it ends up being like some type of crazy fucked up chase where maybe civilians are witnessing this.
01:15:38
Speaker
It being this like weird discreet thing where the lights are flashing. I don't... I don't even know if lights flash like that in real life on subways. I don't know if that's how that would work.
01:15:52
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Also, I think, too, you can hold open doors on subways and keep them open. I think they could have held the door open for each other and let each other on. It's just the believability didn't wasn't there for me, and the scene just could have been executed in, i think, a more interesting way.
01:16:09
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Yeah, you can definitely just put your hand or your foot in the court in the court in the door and like those sensors would reopen it. So that was kind of stupid.
01:16:21
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And then i think, I don't know where I heard it from, one of the reviewers that I watched. One of them said, you know, they probably had this take place in New York just so you can add to the whole intensity of the scenes with Ghostface in there because, you know, shit can happen on the street and no one really cares or bats an eye or whatever.
01:16:46
Speaker
But it's like in this part, it just... I don't know. I thought it was stupid. like you know You were able to cover up Mindy's mouth and stab her multiple times, and she barely is able to muffle out any type of noise. like I don't know. I...
01:17:09
Speaker
They really just wasted time with Mindy's character all over. yeah and Ghostface is a fucking like teenager or like early 20s year old half of the time, too.
01:17:24
Speaker
So how are these people not overpowering whoever is behind the Ghostface mask? mean Dermot Moroney is an older man. He's probably got like a hip problem or something, his character, in real life.
01:17:37
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So he might be easy to overcome. Right. Yeah, I don't know. When it comes to the New York of it all, though, I gotta say, I did like the bodega scene to an extent.
01:17:48
Speaker
And then the ending when they were crawling on the ground. I mean, I like the imagery of Ghostface with a gun. I thought that was cool. I thought it was dumb that the got the shop owner who had the gun when he pulled it out originally, he yelled, hey, before shooting. Yeah, yeah.
01:18:08
Speaker
It's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And he that ended up getting him killed. But when they were crawling on the ground, basically, I thought Ghostface was going to push the shelf on them.
01:18:21
Speaker
I thought that would have been the more interesting call. But they pushed the shelf on Ghostface. And the only detail I got from the commentary that I thought was kind of interesting was I guess they originally wanted them to successfully make it out the back door to get into a taxi. And then Ghostface would somehow commandeer that taxi and it would end with a car flipping.
01:18:43
Speaker
I guess they decided they didn't want to do that. I don't know what would have been the better decision. But I thought the bodega scene was pretty fun. yeah and I guess um audiences were you know really bashing the fact that Ghostface was holding a gun in here. It's like, well, so what? you know They were showing guns in previous films and doesn't make a big thing. like I like the fact that you know they had that in here as well. Yeah, I thought it was cool imagery, Ghostface with a gun.
01:19:16
Speaker
I like the mask, too, in this one. I think that's supposed to be Billy Loomis' mask that they're wearing, the really fucked up one, which is gross. That mask must be so gross.
01:19:27
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think those things degrade over time. It's been ah ah couple decades. That's actually one of the main pictures of I was looking for when I was you know designing my aesthetics room.
01:19:41
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You saw it. So i have all my pictures up that I created, but i found one that shows...
01:19:51
Speaker
all the masks of Ghostface and like the evolution of it. But I put on there, like you know don't be like Ghostface, wear your sunscreen, just as like a little thing of what can happen to your face. so yeah But I love the way his mask looks in here. I should post that on the page just so people see it.
01:20:11
Speaker
But yeah, I like the mask in here. Is this the only movie where they've drastically made a mask change like this
Ghostface Mask Evolution
01:20:18
Speaker
one? Yeah, just because the other films, like, I think the first one is where it looked a little different. In the first scene with Casey Becker when Ghostface is chasing her outside, and then when Henry henry Winkler was about to get killed, but he had put the mask on, like,
01:20:42
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That was the only time mask looked different. It kind of looked like more condensed in size, and it looked a little gray, I think.
01:20:53
Speaker
I do like that they haven't really changed the mask that much. It makes me like wonder, like why couldn't Halloween do that? They just couldn't replicate the original mask?
01:21:04
Speaker
i don't What was the issue? I don't understand what the issue was. Don't get me started on that. Oh my God. you're just We need to cover Halloween soon. Oh my God. but Halloween is like double the length of fucking Scream, maybe even and then some.
01:21:22
Speaker
I'm surprised. They just legit would not stop with those. and It was funny. Even me and my brother were talking about this yesterday. were like because i think I was telling him how they're coming out with a new Scream movie.
01:21:34
Speaker
And we were just like, you know, why do they keep like adding on more to the franchise of like all the, you know, classic franchises? Why can't directors just come up with something new, you know? So, yeah, well...
01:21:50
Speaker
We'll see what happens in Scream 7. I keep wanting to call this 7 or 6. I'm getting all of them mixed up. yeah well We are getting new stuff. It's just we're getting so much of the old stuff too at the same time. Because we've got good franchises like Terrifier, Smile, I think is some great horror.
01:22:11
Speaker
28 years later, there's a new trilogy that's like fairly untapped when it comes... There's not a lot of those movies and I feel like we could go for some more zombies in the world. So that's pretty cool.
01:22:25
Speaker
the barbarian director, he's got more shit coming out weapons. Who knows what that's going to be. So, ah ah but I get what you mean.
01:22:35
Speaker
We keep going back to Halloween. hellraiser came out a year or two ago, ah ah Texas chainsaw massacre a year before that. it Before we know it, we're going to be getting another Friday the 13th, which I think LeBron James was supposed to be working on. Some basketball player oh my god wants to do that.
01:22:56
Speaker
And then I think just producing, though. And then we'll probably get another Nightmare on Elm Street before you know it. I just think the last one was so bad. i think they're afraid of doing it. I've recently rewatched the remake. It's like really bad. Okay. All that being said, we just need to get Slaughterball out there before the Waynes brothers get theirs out. So we got to get to it.
01:23:24
Speaker
We do. One thing I want to talk about, and then we can probably start to wrap this up. It's almost a forgettable part of the movie, but Sam has a therapist played by Henry...
01:23:39
Speaker
Henry Senry? I don't know how to pronounce the guy's last name. He plays Kittredge in the Mission Impossible movies. So right when he was on screen, I'm like, this motherfucker, you can't trust this guy.
01:23:54
Speaker
He's got like just shade all all over him. And Kittredge isn't even a bad guy, but I just find Kittredge kind of slimy, especially in the last two movies.
01:24:07
Speaker
uh his intentions don't always seem the best so i was just projecting all of that onto the therapist and just so i wanted to get all that out there but there were two things that come from that one he is so unprofessional in just bailing on her and being like i need to call the police it's like she didn't threaten anybody I get what you're saying, but she didn't do the things that you're supposed to alert authorities about.
01:24:35
Speaker
oh So I felt like he blew that way out of proportion. And then when he dies by getting stabbed in like the nose, I think they said... That scene was pretty pretty okay, I'd say.
01:24:48
Speaker
But that made me think, Melissa Barrera, that would be, like, make her the killer. That would have been way more interesting. Or, i mean, Scream 7 felt like it could have been her being the killer, but we're never going to get that.
01:25:04
Speaker
As far as it seems, we're not going to get a Scream with Melissa Barrera or Jenna Ortega in it again. Yeah, and that is devastating, honestly, because you know when I saw them in Scream 5, it was hard for me to latch on to them at first just because you know i I really liked Gail, Dewey, and Sydney, but it's like, all right, well, what are they going to bring to the table? But i again, I love what Jenna Ortega like always brings, and then
01:25:40
Speaker
Melissa Barrera, I had no problem with her performance in Scream 5. So the fact that she got a lot of like, you know, hate or whatever um she experienced for her performance in there, that's really shitty because it's not like she did a bad job but and Even her character wasn't too bad either.
01:26:03
Speaker
Scream 5 is definitely better than part 6. So yeah, it it just sucks that you know they're not going to be in here. And then it's crazier too how Nev Campbell is actually going to return for Scream 7.
01:26:17
Speaker
seven So it's like, wow. Because they're not paying Jenna Ortega her fat ass paycheck. Exactly. So it's like, all right, well, we don't got the two leads in here anymore. Let's bring back the original lead, pay her what she was asking for, essentially, and, you know, win our crowd back.
01:26:38
Speaker
Where do we go from here? And get the writer to return and come on as director. It feels like a pretty desperate attempt. I'm surprised Kevin Williamson is coming on unless he really knows a way how to tie it back around to Wes and really knows how to wrap it up.
Speculations on Scream 7
01:26:58
Speaker
I kind of thought maybe they would be doing a prequel or something, and that is why they there's been talks of Stu returning. I'm not entirely, entirely sure, but it doesn't seem like the best move. ah have you Are you in the know about the behind the scenes of Scream 7 at all?
01:27:23
Speaker
I don't. If they were to do like a prequel, the only thing that I can assume they would try to do is like set up a storyline that includes Maureen Prescott, and then i don't know if they're thinking about de-aging Neve Campbell or...
01:27:44
Speaker
something of the sort or even like having her portray Maureen Prescott and have someone else be Sydney's younger self and that's how they can bring Stu in there but like i don't I don't know that's the only storyline I think they can go by so Bringing Stew in just feels so wrong-headed.
01:28:07
Speaker
Like, Star Wars did that. It's the same thing Star Wars did in their finale. They brought back a villain who we had known to be dead for many, many movies, and it had been many, many years since that character had died.
01:28:24
Speaker
And then they show up in the last one, and they justify it with somehow Palpatine returned. And it's so lazy, and it's, Just bad and Stu coming back as the killer kind of reeks of that unless it's someone pretending to be Stu.
01:28:41
Speaker
Then I think that could be interesting. Yeah, it could be that. I don't know. I don't even know when it's getting released, but yeah. Next year, it says.
01:28:52
Speaker
Oh, okay. Well, we'll just yeah revisit this world once we get Scream 7 and see if it can take us all by surprise.
01:29:03
Speaker
Paramount really ah ah kind of botched this whole thing. so like, the order of things going wrong for Scream 7 seems to be the radio silence guys bailed first. They said it's because they wanted to do something else. I wouldn't be surprised if it had to do with how rushed was.
01:29:22
Speaker
The last one was and how like not so strong of an entry this is, even though it has good reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, Letterboxd, it doesn't have bad reviews. It's sitting at a 3.4, which is pretty good, a lot more than I had given it.
01:29:41
Speaker
But so the Radio Silence guys left. Then they hired the director of Happy Death Day. I'm not sure if you've seen that movie. have. That's a pretty good choice. He's kind of like king of the Scream-inspired movies right now. But the issue is none of his movies are quite as good as Scream.
01:30:01
Speaker
They don't really reach that. But he eventually left for some reason. But before he ended up leaving, Paramount fired Melissa Barrera because of political beliefs that she had expressed online.
01:30:16
Speaker
I want to say they were pro-Palestine tweets, which I don't know, like, word for word what she said. It seemed like her heart was in the right place, though, when she made them. And it kind of seems like...
01:30:30
Speaker
a bullshit reason for them to fire her. And then after that, Jenna Ortega left. They said it was because of scheduling issues. It feels like she left in solidarity with Melissa Barrera because of how shortly after, like all of that it was.
01:30:49
Speaker
And then, uh, the director had bailed and they got Kevin Williamson. So it seems like they're in a pretty desperate place. You got any thoughts on any of that?
Production Challenges and Cast Dynamics
01:30:59
Speaker
When they were trying to say like, oh, it's ah for scheduling reasons why Jenna Ortega with everything that she was filming, like Wednesday, this, they find ways to work around someone's schedule if they really want someone in a film.
01:31:18
Speaker
So it's like, that's such a bullshit thing to say. And, you know, it at least shows, you know, like she was pretty, and don't want to say loyal to Melissa Barrera, but it's also like, well, hey, if you're going to fuck her over, like I'm going to fuck you guys over and just dip out of here.
01:31:36
Speaker
So it's like that was a good move on her part. It sucks that we're not going to have either of them in here because, you know, they were good characters even with what they were given. but yeah, so at least we get Neve Campbell back. But again, like, I don't i don't know how that's going to pan out. So we'll see.
01:31:58
Speaker
I think by default Mindy becomes our lead. I don't know how narratively you just... Yeah, I know, right? It sucks. I don't know how narratively you justify losing Sam and Tara.
01:32:13
Speaker
just seems like they're... i don't know. Maybe Kevin Williamson pulls it off. I hope he's doing it for the right reasons, too. I hope it is kind of his send-off to what Wes Craven created.
01:32:27
Speaker
But man, this movie really made me miss for like long for the days of Wes Craven. Is there anything else you want to touch upon before we go into our ranking of this franchise? Yeah.
01:32:39
Speaker
i'm I'm ready to to rank the screams. Do you want to go first? No, I want to hear you go first since you were a virgin to majority of these films.
01:32:51
Speaker
all right, so there's six movies we're ranking. Are we starting with one or are we starting with six? Six. All right, so my number six is Scream 6. It's sitting there comfortably at the bottom where it will hopefully stay. you know If Scream 7, if they're putting the work into it, then Scream 6 will stay at the bottom forever.
01:33:15
Speaker
My number five is Scream 3. I like Scream 3, though. There's only one bad one, I'd say, and it's Scream 6. And it's only bad because it's it's messy.
01:33:26
Speaker
It's the messiest out of all of them, I'd say, but Yeah, Scream 3 is my number 5. My number 4 is Scream 5. My number 3 is Scream 2.
01:33:39
Speaker
My number 2 is Scream, the original. And my number 1, drumroll please...
01:33:50
Speaker
Scream 4. fucking knew it. That's the head honcho. fucking knew it. I think about Scream 4 all the time, actually, since I watched it. i've been i mean I've been forced to think about Scream a lot for good reasons, too.
01:34:05
Speaker
But Scream 4 is the one that stuck with me the most, and then Scream right behind it. This is a bulletproof franchise for the most part. I... feel disappointed that we went out on what I would say is such a low note for the franchise. All of these movies are riding pretty high for me.
01:34:24
Speaker
This is, I can't wait to rewatch all of these except for six. I might just not watch this one again. it was such a bummer ending on that, but we got a good episode out of it.
01:34:37
Speaker
And yeah, I don't know. I, Everything, like aside from six, the lowest rated movie I've got is Scream 3, and that's sitting at four stars. So i don't know I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what more you folks
Franchise Chemistry Reflection
01:34:54
Speaker
want from me. this is These are good movies we're talking about.
01:34:58
Speaker
Mercedes is quickly putting her list together. No, it's because I have them ranked, but I didn't have it like 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. So I was like, wait, let me do that. That way I'm not like numbering them off all stupid because I would.
01:35:13
Speaker
It got really confusing too because it was like 6 is my 6, 3 is my 5. That's what I'm saying. Like, let me fix that really quick. Sorry if that was difficult to listen to, listeners.
01:35:27
Speaker
Yeah, and it's funny because I kind of thought you would like part six a lot more than, well, you don't like it at all. i The main part I like on here is the intro scene, but after that, like, yeah, it's it's not the greatest out of these films.
01:35:44
Speaker
Yeah, when you said that you thought I would like the intro and I was watching it, like as I did like half of it, but I was just like, damn, I hope this isn't going to be a thing where it's like you love the movie and I just hate it. And when I watched it again, i was hoping I really flipped opinions on it, but I liked it even less the second time around, especially when I knew who the killers were.
01:36:07
Speaker
And I didn't have that reaction for any of the other movies. Well, I mean, three, the killer is kind of blah, and his fucking role in the movie, Roman, he's kind of nothing.
01:36:19
Speaker
But i at least he was, i don't know, something. Yeah, I agree with you on that. So my ranking is little, well, it is different from yours. It's very different. I'm nervous now.
01:36:35
Speaker
So I have at my number six, my least favorite is Scream 3 because again, like- Whoa, whoa. I didn't expect that. I'm like mind blown.
01:36:49
Speaker
Shut up. No, I am. I am. I didn't expect that. It's just, I hate the killer reveal in there. The fact that it's her long-lost stepbrother, essentially, or half-brother, whatever. It didn't like pack a punch like it was supposed to do because she met the agree with you. It's weak.
01:37:14
Speaker
Yes, she never met the guy. If she did, then it probably would have been more of a good reveal, but there it there was no meaning behind that. That was just stupid.
01:37:28
Speaker
my number five is Scream 6. again, there were some things I liked in this movie, but majority of them, it was just, it was all over the place.
01:37:37
Speaker
My number four is Scream 4. So it's not at the bottom, but Scream 4. I'm not mad about it. I'm not mad about that placement. It getting higher than three surprised me because it felt like you were the most negative on four, but I i respect it. you know Four four. sitting at four I think it had some decent moments in there, like some cool characters. like yeah i like
01:38:10
Speaker
I like Sheriff Hicks, even though she's stupid. i like Kirby's character in there. Charlie's character, you kind of give off Charlie vibes to me, honestly.
01:38:21
Speaker
But yeah, it's not too bad. My and number three is Scream 5, just because we get the lovely Jenna Ortega and the lovely Melissa Barrera in there.
01:38:33
Speaker
My number two is Scream 2, and my number one is the original Scream, because you like you have such... A cool-ass cast that you just love right off the bat. Everyone just has like good chemistry with each other.
01:38:54
Speaker
You see the sparks flying between Gale and Dewey and their real-life characters, Courtney Cox and David Arquette. So that was pretty cool. Matthew Lillard is just a fucking...
01:39:08
Speaker
crazy ass monster in here you have the charming Billy Loomis fucking Jamie Kennedy is ah ah dork like everyone in here Rose McGowan like they all were just like amazing characters so you can't beat the original one in here The original is a pretty special movie.
01:39:29
Speaker
I think all around this whole franchise is special. It's one you can reflect on and be like, but remember the reveal in this one? But remember the fucking sequence in this one where this chick gets thrown off the balcony?
01:39:43
Speaker
It's an endlessly fun series filled with great moments and I mean, i I'm going to be thinking about these movies forever, I think.
Upcoming Episodes and Future Plans
01:39:53
Speaker
They're in my brain now, and ah ah I'm thankful for it.
01:39:57
Speaker
if you If you're listening to this and you haven't listened to our previous episodes, I want to encourage you guys to listen to the... Scream 4 episode partially because I really love that movie and the other part is because you and I were pretty split on it and I was expecting it to be at the bottom of your list or maybe this to be at the bottom but for 4 to be lower and you know I would have understood it because you know I wouldn wouldn't have held it against you but I'm glad to see it at number 4 this has been a fun miniseries though
01:40:32
Speaker
Definitely, definitely. I'm glad that I got to share the experience of you watching these films with you. And yeah I'm excited for what's to come next.
01:40:43
Speaker
Yeah, coming up. So next week, we've got a special episode for you guys. We're going to be talking Weapons, the new Zachary Kreger movie. I want to say that's how you pronounce the last name. I'm going to just assume it is and not look it up.
01:41:00
Speaker
But... The director of Barbarian. I'm super stoked for this movie. The marketing has been awesome for that. Go out to the movie theater and fucking see Weapons and be there with us.
01:41:14
Speaker
Those early screenings on Thursday at 2.17 p.m. in relation to the movie, that's the one Mercedes and I are going to go to. I'm fucking excited for it. I'm actually more excited for it than 28 years later, honestly. I think this is going to be...
01:41:31
Speaker
a big experience and possibly a movie that we're talking about for the rest of the year I hope it's a good movie. And it was fun being able to go see 28 years later with you, learn your horrible taste in candy, and able to- Hey, we well it's on the record. We talked about it already in relation- I know, but I have to- Jenna Ortega loves the Raisinette.
01:41:56
Speaker
I know. No, she does not. Are you going to come with Raisinettes? If I come with Raisinettes, it's because I'm going to throw them at you. Fair enough. I'll eat them off the ground.
01:42:08
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No, I'll just like sneak them in your hair. Then they'll melt. I got a fly in my hair the other day. It was traumatic. It was a whole thing. i hate that. Yeah, like I caught my hair when I was driving and I accidentally smashed it in there yeah when I ran my hands there. It was traumatic. I'm still thinking about it.
01:42:26
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Yeah, ew. Let's not think about that. yeah, that was a cool experience, being able to watch that and you know be able to talk about it while we were still high off the film. So this is going to be fun. I'm excited for it. Guys, you should be excited too. Don't forget to listen to our other episodes if you haven't.
01:42:45
Speaker
Rate us five stars on Apple Podcasts and Spotify as your favorite horror movie podcast. What more is there to say? Just join us in on our journey here. And do you want to go ahead and just announce our next season on this one just in case people don't catch weapons in time?
01:43:03
Speaker
Yeah, go for it. let ah ah Let the listeners know what's in store for them. All right, guys. So coming up next, we're going to be covering the Final Destination movies. I almost said something else.
01:43:17
Speaker
What were you going to say I almost said 28 Weeks Later movies. I don't know why. Well, I mean, we were just talking about it, so that's understandable. I thought you were going to say something completely different. Okay.
01:43:29
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No. We're going to be covering the Final Destination movies. I think that'll be a fun one. This will probably be a pretty easy breezy season filled with some easy breezy watches. It's going be fun. I'm excited.
01:43:42
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Yeah. I hope you guys are excited too. Thank you guys for listening. Looking forward to Final Destination. We've been Morbid Curiosities. Yeah.