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Terrifier 3
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they wrap up their time with Art The Clown with Damien Leone's TERRIFIER 3! They talk their favorite kills and who "deserved it," Art's love of Santa, and possible ways Terrifier 4 could wrap this whole thing up. They also reveal their rankings of these films, and announce their upcoming season!
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Introduction and Christmas Theme
00:01:12
Speaker
Merry Christmas, guys. Ho, ho, ho. We are Morbid Curiosities, bringing you another episode, a Christmas episode, you could say. I'm Nicholas Ewers, and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the morbid mistress of mayhem herself, Mercedes Martinez. What's up, guys? Are you ready to go back into Christmas, Nicholas? Because I'm not.
00:01:38
Speaker
I'm ready. Yeah, let's skip over everything else and go straight to Christmas for a little bit. We've been living in Halloween since we started this podcast. Every day is Halloween. That's the way to be. But I guess, you know, we can make an exception for this because we are still living with Art the Clown here and he's still up to some crazy fuckery here. So let's get into
Reactions to 'Terrifier 3' Gore
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it.
00:02:02
Speaker
Yeah, dude, every week feels like Halloween because of this podcast and watching the movie that we watched today, it Terrifier 3, which, guys, spoilers ahead for t three or as I like to call it, T3, Rise of the Machines.
00:02:18
Speaker
um This movie, watching it, I just had a moment where I was like, what the fuck am I watching? What what am I doing? like The level of gore that I was experiencing, I won't talk about where I watched the movie for part of the day. I was telling Mercedes, though, so she's aware.
00:02:40
Speaker
But I was like just thinking, like what have I amounted to? This is a wrong place and time for that. Yeah, just a very public place watching Terrifier 3, some of the most obscene shit, almost gagging.
00:02:56
Speaker
Oh, God. Where did you watch this movie? At your home in a normal place? Yeah, but for some fucking reason, i was still watching it when I was eating.
00:03:10
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it never fails. And again, I'm just, I think it was because the first time when I watched it, i was just preparing myself to look away at majority of the scenes.
00:03:21
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um I didn't want to see the gore fest going on. And This time around, I was thinking, I could do it. I could watch it all. Or i just forgot certain details of a scene. so I'm like taking a bite of my food, and I look up, and I just see someone's face is sliced open or chopped open.
00:03:43
Speaker
i create these rules, and then I don't follow them. you know Just don't listen to me, guys. I'm just here. This is Nick's show. I'm just here. That's background noise. If the one rule you followed led to you to this, then of what use was the rule?
00:03:59
Speaker
Exactly. It's a quote from No Country for Old Men. yes. I forgot about that. I had a similar thought before putting this movie on.
00:04:11
Speaker
This was the only one I had seen before we ah embarked on this season for the podcast. But I was thinking to myself, you know, the the kills are pretty tame in Terrifier 3. I could get through it with eating potentially or get through it while eating potentially.
00:04:32
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I think it's doable. It doesn't go as hard as the other ones do. And re-watching it this time, I was dead wrong. This movie goes hard as fuck. This movie ah has some of the hardest scenes to watch.
00:04:45
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ah Like, scenes where I fully had to look away. It's insane how crazy these movies are and that we're subjecting ourselves to this. yeah We're going to have to go back into who had the worst death in here, either on screen or off screen, once we get into more the details. because There was one scene in particular that I completely missed the first time around watching it. so Watching it this time, what the fuck did I just watch?
00:05:17
Speaker
It's insane. who had the worst death is honestly ah a great idea. Cause when you said that my mind jumped to one in particular, but then immediately after there were two and three more that came up where I was thinking, yeah, that those are pretty awful too. I don't know which one I would want to have happen to myself.
00:05:42
Speaker
I think I could narrow it down though. and That's what's cool about um Art the Clown because he is unpredictable and all the death that death scenes in here, even though a lot of them are so over the top and just highly exaggerated,
00:06:03
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You're just watching them and it makes you cringe. It makes you uncomfortable. You're just like, damn. Like you said, like I don't want to be in a situation like that. Or would I would i want this death over this death? but Could I handle this one? No. um All of these, there're they're pretty fucked up.
00:06:23
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Dude, this movie actually made me gag at times. i What parts? I'm trying to remember off the top of my head. i can't right now. As we talk about it, I think I'll be able to place it.
00:06:38
Speaker
But... um The only other movie I can think of that made me actively gag while I was watching it was Jackass 3, this part where the bigger dude is on the elliptical and they get the sweat from his ass and Steve-O drinks it. yeah Yeah, that that was um the scene that I happened to just...
00:07:05
Speaker
not want to fuck with those movies because i didn't watch all of them. i just I think it was my brother watching it um one time. and When I saw that part, I fucking threw up. I'm like, nope, never again. Not watching this. That same part?
00:07:23
Speaker
Exactly that same part. It's so bad, man. It's so bad. And this movie, those are the only two. Terrifier, man. You guys are nailing it Oh, fuck.
00:07:34
Speaker
This movie's so goddamn effective. um Yeah, ah I guess let's get into it. um Do you want to take us away on Terrifier 3? Your thoughts on this Christmas classic?
Art the Clown in a Santa Suit
00:07:50
Speaker
so It's always hard for me to watch Christmas movies because, again, i love Halloween, but having all and dressed up in a Santa suit is very fucking amusing um because it just adds to more of his playful demeanor. so You have this um this house.
00:08:13
Speaker
It's a night in December. This little girl, she wakes up her mom saying, oh there's someone on the roof. And this part was funny because while the mom is trying to console the daughter to, you know, ah just go back to sleep, we'll put out milk and cookies for Santa and his elves or whatever.
00:08:32
Speaker
She goes back and sees that um the downstairs door is open. It's not just like unlocked. It is open. and yeah who i'm I'm sorry. That was just my first issue because...
00:08:48
Speaker
She just closes it like nothing, doesn't think anything of it. She just blames her husband like, oh, you forgot to lock the door. you know You're not concerned with our safety. And this dude is trying so hard to stay asleep or just to go back to sleep because he has work in a few hours. I felt for that, man.
00:09:06
Speaker
I really did. She is a good point, though. He isn't concerned about their safety in that moment because... Well, neither was she because if you found the door unlocked and open, go but look around your house to make sure no one broke in or get your fucking family out of there. Fuck that. No.
00:09:28
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Yeah, both of them should be more alert and on guard in this moment. He should have woken up more and she should have stopped pointing the finger at him and they both should have done something.
00:09:41
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Yeah, that that was funny because my husband was watching this and he was getting so pissed off. He's like, this poor fucking guy, he has to get up for work in a few hours. And all she's doing is nagging him. um That was amusing on its own. But yeah, so then ah the little girl, she ends up waking up and she sees ah quote unquote Santa downstairs and um you see uh that it is art because he grabs what was it an axe that he had for his initial weapon yeah so yeah and it's the most like intense almost a rusty looking axe it just looks fucking awful when he grabs it out
00:10:24
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That's what's gross. All the weapons that he grabs, aside from firearms, they're old and rusty, and that just makes those wounds that he inflicts cut deeper in your soul because you're just thinking,
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Not only did he pretty much cut off someone's limbs, but it's all rusty, so now they have all this fucking like bacteria in them too. I'm just thinking all the gum shit. it's It's gross to think about, especially because then the blades are dull, so that makes it that much but harder to you know slice and dice these people.
00:11:03
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Yes, now they got to go get a tetanus shot on top of all of this? If they live, yes, exactly. Exactly my point. ah Very few people. There's only three characters I can really think of that live at the hand of art, that survive by heart.
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ah Three characters I can think of that survive by the hand of art Does he have your heart, Nick? He does. He always does.
00:11:30
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um He's very charming, very funny. He is funny, but where is this charm coming from? We'll get there. We'll get to his charm. Okay. But Sienna, Jonathan, and Vicky are the only three people I can think of who survive at the hand of art.
00:11:49
Speaker
Yeah, so you see Art, he goes upstairs and the little girl's just hiding by the staircase and he goes into her brother's room and you hear him wake up, but then you just hear a lot of fucking impactful sounds and you're just like, fuck, this kid's getting killed. And it was fucking excessive how many...
00:12:17
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chops this man did on this little boy like this kid's maybe what five eight whatever his body is not that long so why did you need to do it that many times i should have counted how many times and the sound design is so effective too because first you're hearing like the thumping of art santa boots on the stairs and The axe swing, it's almost like it's like a splat or a squash, I think, was the sound.
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, it sounded awful, man. I felt so bad for that kid. Not seeing what happened is ah ah so much worse, I feel like. I mean, what he could have shown us would have been awful, but yeah it was an effective sequence that Damien created.
00:13:08
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Yeah, I think if he showed something or even included the kid screaming from, you know, all the agony he was in, i don't think I would have been able to stomach that. So for him just to have him, you know, just wake up, but then all of a sudden, bam, he's pretty much dead.
00:13:30
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That was a little more... tasteful, I guess. I've heard a lot of people use that term ah when they're describing this movie in the direction that it did go in compared to what it could have gone in It's still one of the most horrific scenes, not in this series. it's Saying that is very difficult because this series has increasingly horrific sequences within one movie at a time, let alone the entire series.
00:14:01
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But and within just the genre of horror, it's an incredibly effective sequence and like almost a master class in how to begin a horror movie effectively and just giving the audience enough.
00:14:20
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But it probably would have been overload to show that kid brutalized also. Yeah, definitely. There is a bigger detail that I do want to get into ah regarding the subject, but in a later scene.
00:14:35
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yeah But yeah, we'll we'll get to that later. But i thought i thought it was cool just because... For me personally, just watching that sequence of um seeing Art the Clown downstairs, he's just looking at the tree.
00:14:51
Speaker
It just reminded me of um Jack Skellington when he is dressed up as Santa trying to you know take over Christmas. and then um well youre There are parallels to Art the Clown and Jack Skellington we can get into throughout the movie.
00:15:09
Speaker
it's It's so cool. i um i just love that little detail. Then... After um you know Art's upstairs, he's mutilating the the parents, which, by the way, too, you don't even hear the husband barely grunt at all from getting killed.
00:15:29
Speaker
He's just dead silent, and his wife, you are not that deep of a sleeper, to sleep through a death scene going on directly next to you I'm sorry that this wife just sucks, in my opinion.
00:15:46
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Yeah, I agree. i find it fucked up how sloppy Art is with that axe, too, on top of everything we've talked about, it being rusty.
00:15:58
Speaker
But, man, I just felt so bad for that husband. He had... He had to work in the morning, true. And then he just didn't even see that ex coming. Did he get him in the neck first? Or he got him like, like almost split him in half, like right in the abdomen area.
00:16:16
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Yeah, somewhere in the torso. And then later, he got him like in his face and everywhere else. That was so disturbing to watch. i Yeah, and it's just basically a pool of blood forming right next to her. She wakes up with a bloody hand, is like, ah!
00:16:35
Speaker
And then Art is just going wild, making the craziest faces. He points to the axe and is like, I'm coming for you next. And I mean, the sequence...
00:16:49
Speaker
ah Again, i wanted to say it's one of the most horrific deaths in the series, but or in the movie, but it really isn't. But he just fucking brutalizes this woman, like really chops her up and takes her to task.
00:17:05
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and Then you just see more of him just being an enigma because he goes downstairs, he proceeds to eat these fucking thin ass cracker cookies. You hear it basically be a cracker.
00:17:21
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ah nope Not Mercedes cookies. Nope, that hurt my soul seeing that and hearing that. But yeah, then he washes his dishes. He puts it away and he's, you know, in a happy mood like anyone would be after eating cookies.
00:17:36
Speaker
But then it reminded me that scene reminded me of the movie A Christmas Story because he hears a noise and it's the little girl um hiding under like in the
Mall Santa Chaos and Social Commentary
00:17:50
Speaker
cabinets under the counter and that just reminded me of the kid randy from that movie where he's hiding under there because he figured uh the dad was gonna kill ralphie in that part have you seen that movie what movie a christmas story yeah i have not no
00:18:08
Speaker
Wow, okay. that That kind of makes sense because I wasn't getting any reaction from you. so Should we cover it? No, it's not a Halloween movie or it's not a horror movie.
00:18:20
Speaker
Well, it could be. theres There's a gun in there. We could potentially put that on the list. Any movie with a gun is now horror.
00:18:31
Speaker
They have some and someone dress up as a witch in there for one scene, so we could, but i like that it yeah that is a classic. you You should definitely watch it. It it plays every Christmas um on Christmas Day all day.
00:18:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's one of my mom's favorite Christmas movies. i I probably should watch it eventually because she loves it so much. But I went to see White Christmas with her at the movie theater, and I didn't find that movie to be very much of a Christmas movie.
00:19:03
Speaker
i I remember you had mentioned that, but I did not even know that there was a movie coming out called White Christmas at the time, so I don't even know what it was about. Oh, no, it was an old movie that they re-released in theaters, like a quote-unquote Christmas classic, but right very much because i was like Christmas.
00:19:23
Speaker
Yeah, that sounds familiar, but you know we have all these movies that are ah coming out with similar titles or the same titles, so yeah. Honestly, Terrifier 3 is way more of a Christmas movie than White Christmas. I won't go on any more about it, but if anyone at wants to dispute me on that, they can fucking at me, you know, at the page. I'll respond.
00:19:49
Speaker
let's Let's get some um some debates going here. Yeah. ah That poor little girl. It sucks that, I mean, why couldn't the mom get out of the house? I didn't catch fully why the door was so locked.
00:20:06
Speaker
Because it wasn't locked before. They they like determined that it was unlocked. That's how art came in. But now it's like the most reinforced locked door in all of the country.
00:20:20
Speaker
and Good point. I actually can't remember. i i I thought it was just her being honestly stupid and not being able to unlock the door in a time of panic like a lot of people end up doing or technically not doing.
00:20:36
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um Crap, i I completely forgot that detail. Guys, help us out. Why couldn't she open the door? i i just know her death scene after. That kid, I mean, good hiding spot.
00:20:48
Speaker
She did give herself away, but yeah, I felt bad for her. But this whole opening sequence is a great... Like, it really gets you into the movie. It's visually so well done. It's well edited. I i quite enjoyed it.
00:21:07
Speaker
It really... It's maybe the best way any of these movies have kicked off. And it might be the Christmas behind it all that's winning me over immediately.
00:21:19
Speaker
Maybe it's just seeing art in the Santa outfit. I fucking love it. But it's a great opening. It is and you're just kind of on a precipice here thinking, okay, you're only going to go down from here, like downhill, because that was just such a fucked up opening scene. So what else can art do now? And then even after all the shit that happens in here, what else is art going to post Terrifier 3?
00:21:51
Speaker
Just so many questions out there. Part of me wonders if Art's even going to be in Terrifier 4 that much. it We can get into that a little bit. i There's some things in this movie that make me wonder if Terrifier 4 is going to look and feel and be a completely different movie. I kind of have a feeling Damien is going to go full Army of Darkness ah with this next one and just almost flip the genre a little bit.
00:22:24
Speaker
We got to cover the Evil Dead movies because that's one of them that I haven't seen. so You'll get it. You haven't seen any imagery from Army of Darkness? No, I haven't.
00:22:36
Speaker
ah Oh, not even a poster? Okay, yeah. When we get into it, you'll probably see the poster and think like, oh, yeah, this is ah very different from the other ones.
00:22:47
Speaker
Okay, yeah. um So why do you think that, though? Get into more detail on that. So there's a point in the movie where Sienna is having... i don't know if it's a dream sequence or some kind of hallucination, but she's envisioning this demon monster right by ah statue of the Virgin Mary, and this demon monster is making her like angel warrior outfit that her father created her...
00:23:21
Speaker
It's in there with a a dream sequence that ah is... ah It's in there with a dream sequence that involves her father giving her the artwork of the Angel Warrior outfit.
00:23:39
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But... um Yeah, watching this scene, it's this weird demon kind of constructing her suit. And I kind of got the idea. So Sienna's going to be going to hell. And again, full spoilers, ah if i forgot to say it earlier, Sienna's going to be going to hell to get Gabby because Gabby gets dragged into hell with Sienna's sword. So Sienna's have to go down there to find her.
00:24:02
Speaker
And just that flash forward made in that or that dream sequence made me feel like maybe that's what the next movie is going to fully be this weird demon world all the way through.
00:24:15
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And it's going to be more mystical, more demonic. Kind of like the Ninth Circle segment in the All Hallows' Eve short film with all of those monsters.
00:24:30
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I feel that it might be close to that. I could see that happening, especially because at the end of the film, um' sorry for kind of jumping the gun on that.
00:24:43
Speaker
No, we can jump all over the place. Cool. They um show just little details from religion, like the crown of thorns. It was originally on, um what's her name?
00:24:58
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Vicky, I almost called her Vanessa. um She was wearing it
Religious Symbols and Horror Imagery
00:25:02
Speaker
where she was um pretending to be Sienna's aunt and uncle, just talking about her.
00:25:10
Speaker
But she was wearing it Her face is painted now. And then she ends up placing it on Sienna. That alone was just...
00:25:21
Speaker
hard to watch. Sienna's getting into that point of like desperation and despair where she sees all of her family members are dead now, or almost all of them are dead, and she's just and Art's just slapping her around, which I found very amusing.
00:25:43
Speaker
um yeah He fucking destroys her hands pretty much. That was disgusting to watch. And then they throw the crown of thorns on her. So she's already in pain. And then just seeing her place it on her, it looks as if she's placing it delicately on her head.
00:26:02
Speaker
But just her reaction. oh my God. It gave me an instant headache watching it Yeah, i at first I thought maybe I saw it wrong, but so she wasn't like pushing it down very hard on her head. I thought she was like making sure it was digging in there.
00:26:22
Speaker
Oh, well, she probably could have been. To me, it just looked like she just placed it on her. um But yeah, she probably did like you know wiggle it around just to make sure it fit her perfectly. And dare I say, Lauren Lavera still looks stunning, covered in blood with a crown of thorns on. I'm just saying.
00:26:43
Speaker
She almost looks hotter with the the crown on, if you ask me. Exactly. Exactly my point. Put a fucking hat on her.
00:26:55
Speaker
man. She's amazing in here. Yeah, she's great. And this movie really... i don't know if I said this in the last one, but this the last one really treats her bad, and this one treats her almost worse. They do fully destroy her hands at one point.
00:27:14
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And just seeing how she's trying to cope after being institutionalized for however long, um I found it a little strange that, you know, she was the one that was sent away um and, you know, she's dealing with a lot of trauma.
00:27:37
Speaker
So is Jonathan, but he's not dealing with it as much as she is and you think he would because he was the one that found their mom dead in the second one.
00:27:51
Speaker
um He did get ah or did endure some torture from the Clown, not as much as Sienna, but he did witness a lot of ah brutality from the guy.
00:28:03
Speaker
And he was researching all the shit that Art the Clown did. so Why isn't he dealing with some more trauma? He just seems like perfectly fine and not perfectly fine. I know he does have a little relapse moment, but he he seems almost, I'd say, embarrassed to have Sienna around um when she does try to get in touch with him.
00:28:28
Speaker
It seems like he's... dealing with his trauma by not dealing with it almost. He's shutting down. He's isolating.
00:28:40
Speaker
it Honestly, he seems like the kind of kid who would eventually deal with his trauma by isolating and maybe seeking out substances. Damn, you're just going to do Jonathan Bogus like that?
00:28:55
Speaker
Yeah, i mean, I didn't do him as bad as Art and Vicky do him yeah later on. Very true, very true. yeah Watching it, I was thinking, yeah, he seems like a kid who would probably eventually in college start dabbling and substances or experimenting in order to try to cope and then eventually maybe would have some type of drug addiction and that would be his type of coping. It would be...
00:29:23
Speaker
shoving it all down and repressing it through substances because he's like isolating and shutting out this whole time. mean, I don't mean to kind of like put him in a box, but ah I was getting those kind of vibes from him.
00:29:37
Speaker
i mean His character in here, he doesn't have a lot of focal points in the movie. and that That was a bit of a bummer. I wanted to see more of him in here. I wanted to see you know him and Sienna kind of take on Art and Vicky together instead of her just doing it on her own.
00:29:59
Speaker
um and I don't know, but the parts that we did get of him, he at least is, yes, he is ignoring kind of everything, just trying to put it in the back of his mind, but he is trying to you know continue onward. and Again, I say again where I'm happy he at least has a friend at school.
00:30:26
Speaker
you know no one's looking him. kind of looking at yeah I don't know why. I kind of like his roommate. He's he's stupid, and he doesn't have um a lot of ah um screen time, but he's a fucking idiot. He seems like he actually cares about Mia. Yeah.
00:30:47
Speaker
ah let me i'll get into that bitch in a second but um i i know i like that he does seem like uh you know a caring guy because he even is um kind of looking out for jonathan you know he i guess invited him to whatever little party that they were supposed to go to and um when sienna trying to exploit him though right were they Yeah, to I think Mia wanted Cole to try to get him to get Sienna on her show or to get him on the show.
00:31:24
Speaker
I think he was inviting um inviting ah Jonathan to the party just on his own, but then was going to try to convince him after his little bitch of a girlfriend was doing her thing with him to persuade him. um but yeah Even when Sienna went to the school to meet up with Jonathan,
00:31:53
Speaker
he he He, you know, hugs ah hugs Jonathan. He's acting kind of like an older brother to him, being goofy. And then when his dumbass girlfriend comes along, he's like, oh, shit. You know what? Let me get out of here because he knows what his girlfriend is about to do but she still just fucking makes her way over there. So tell me, Woosa, tell me, what did you think about his girlfriend, Mia?
00:32:20
Speaker
That is her name, right, Mia? Yeah. Mia, yeah, she didn't seem like she was the the brightest, like her elevator didn't reach the top floor.
00:32:33
Speaker
i just because So people who take their interest in ceal and serial killers and criminal investigation, who take it to a weird level...
00:32:50
Speaker
tend to bother me a little bit, and she's one of those people where she is taking this interest and overstepping boundaries. She's not someone who's qualified to do that either.
00:33:03
Speaker
She thinks she's a big journalist because she has a YouTube show or something like that, but she... Really isn't someone who's qualified to ask this person questions. She's not like a trained psychiatrist or somebody who could professionally dissect this person.
00:33:24
Speaker
All of that being said, i found her a little charming. I found a lot of the characters basically pretty charming. i don't think I really hated anybody in this movie.
00:33:35
Speaker
I'm about to end this damn episode because i fucking hated her with a passion. Just she makes her way, just interrupts their conversation because she's basically starstruck by Sienna.
00:33:53
Speaker
And then she just goes all in on her. Yeah, you know, I have this show and we would love to have you on there because we're so stoked about your story. Whatever.
00:34:04
Speaker
Bitch, have some fucking tech. You know, they are they both lost their mother. They both, um or Sienna lost her friends. And you're just kind of making it seem...
00:34:15
Speaker
As if she was meeting, you know, Lauren Lavera in real life. um She had no fucking sympathy. She was just all for personal gain right there. No, I hated her. Characters like her...
00:34:30
Speaker
is um what annoys me about films because they always, nine times out of 10, have a character who's too fucking stupid to realize, hey, maybe I should shut up and not say everything that I'm thinking um because it can come off as offensive.
00:34:51
Speaker
but um And then, what was it? Even later, when she's talking to her boyfriend she asked him oh you know do you think i was being mean or whatever she said when she was talking to sienna and he basically said yeah you know he he was calling her out on it so yeah even he he knew um how she was so yeah the fact that you find her charming i can't trust you anymore Found her a little charming. I think everybody had a little charm. I like too that the the men in this series aren't like, at least from what I can recall, aren't like womanizing assholes. They're all kind of good guys.
00:35:36
Speaker
To an extent, they're not perfect. Some of them are a little scummy in their own ways, but they themselves don't really seem to be exploiting women or just in it for the sex. They seem to kind of be there and and give a shit.
00:35:54
Speaker
huh Exactly. It's different for horror. It is. And even with Sienna's character, they aren't introducing a love interest for her.
00:36:06
Speaker
Normally, they would have that in the first movie where they showed the the final girl or who it is. And then if they don't, it's um in a movie where she gets out of the institution and, you know, she's damaged, she's broken. They are trying to give her, you know, more of a purpose or whatever.
00:36:30
Speaker
And then they bring a love interest in, but they still haven't done that, which I like. So I hope they don't do that in the next film. um But thinking about it now, if,
00:36:42
Speaker
They really had the ending the way they did, which I don't believe. um They may try to bring another male character in here, but let's hope they don't take that route.
00:36:53
Speaker
I'd be very disappointed. Yeah, I don't think there's room for a love interest in the next movie. I don't know who I am to say that, but I can't see them fitting it in.
00:37:05
Speaker
But I didn't think about that until you brought it up, and it is very Halloween. it is very Laurie Strode. She kind of reminds me a little bit of Laurie Strode mixed with Ash from the Evil Dead movies because...
00:37:21
Speaker
I have a feeling she's going to become Ash-like in the next movie, and kind of is already in this. She's taking a lot of shit. She's getting the shit kicked out of her, and she's fighting these demons. i i do This is something that I really enjoy about the Terrifier movies, is that they...
00:37:40
Speaker
seem like they're... And I haven't heard Damien say this about the movies, but these movies feel like they're a love letter to classic horror and classic horror iconography.
00:37:55
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. um You just see little homages here and there. um I mean, the main one that I always focus on is when um it, ah which one was it? um All Hallows' Eve, just how Art the Clown had, I keep calling him Art the Clown again, how Art had, um,
00:38:19
Speaker
you know, the dead lights for eyes. That's yeah like, you know, Pennywise. um And I love when films do that. They just find little details that they can add into their own film to honor classic horror films or just classic films in general that either inspired them or kind of made them who they are today.
Homage to Classic Horror
00:38:40
Speaker
Doing that, it's like, you know, I tip my hat off to you ah for yeah getting me this far in life. Yeah, the intro to this movie too, this is something i that I just remembered now.
00:38:54
Speaker
It's very like The Shining. He even has, Art has a here's Johnny moment, but it's silent, of course. Yeah. One thing I do want to say about Art and Mia and her fucking brutal death.
00:39:12
Speaker
This is something that I mentioned on ah my other podcast on our Terrifier 3 episode. These guys got juice. If you want to go check it out, I'm pretty proud of that episode. It's very different than this one. It's two people going in blind and knowing nothing about what they're watching. It's very entertaining, I think.
00:39:32
Speaker
But There's a moment where Art, after he's just brutalized Mia, he looks at her, takes off the sunglasses, then he gives her the art look, but he's really forcing it. Almost like a, this is what you wanted.
00:39:49
Speaker
This is what you came here for, right? You're a fan of me. I'm giving it to you. And then he puts the sunglasses on her, and I felt felt like that was very well done. i fucking love...
00:40:03
Speaker
art and everything he's doing with his facial expressions especially when he meets santa we don't have to talk about that right now if you want to still focus on mia and the shower death because we definitely can't the shower death is fucking insane yeah um i fucking had a ball with that scene just because um everyone like I was saying before i was not um anticipating watching these films so I was just watching spoiler reviews on them so I kind of knew what was going to happen and I knew this was going to be the um the bedroom scene of this movie um
00:40:47
Speaker
So once it was leading up to it, her just being so obsessive over Art, Art's behavior when he's in the hall, just eavesdropping on them. He's getting a fucking kick out of what they're saying because she's like, you know, he's such a great killer or whatever she said. And, you know, he just kind of.
00:41:07
Speaker
puts his hand out there like like an aw shucks yeah yeah stop don't make me blush and then her boyfriend's like dude you just sound like you want to fuck the guy and she's like no i don't want to fuck him and then he looks so disappointed and it's like well realistically you do sound like it um but then she's really you know getting into it i just want to see how it would feel you know your last moments when he is right there right in front of you doing his thing or whatever and it was just amusing seeing him fucking use the bathroom which throws me off because he has all these little supernatural traits about him yet he still has to use the bathroom you know I guess when nature calls
00:41:58
Speaker
He pees twice in this movie, actually, and it's like dead yeah body urine, too, from a demon. It must smell fucking rancid. Dehydrated. Exactly. Dehydrated.
00:42:12
Speaker
I had said this on the other Terrifier 3 episode, and i was pretty proud of this statement, and I heard Damien Leone, or Leone, ah I'm still not sure how to pronounce it, I keep hearing it different ways, but he...
00:42:28
Speaker
I heard him say this about David Howard Thornton himself, but I compared Art the Clown to Bugs Bunny. I thought to myself watching Terrifier 3, Art is very Bugs Bunny in the, oh, stop it, who, me? Or like the shucks or when he's peeing or when he meets Santa and he's getting excited and giddy and dresses up as him. It's all very Looney Tunes and Bugs Bunny to me.
00:42:57
Speaker
especially in this movie i fucking love him in this movie so much yeah he really amps up his character in here and just how playful and silly he can be while still being a fucking brutal serial killer and you had asked me a question about how i felt um with these films and I know I'm going to word it wrong, but how their behavior is towards women.
00:43:27
Speaker
And I said, you know, I think that's a question for a different movie. But this was that movie that I was saving it for because um this scene, he doesn't just attack Mia. He attacks Cole, too. Yeah, he...
00:43:44
Speaker
attacks Cole first, but he kind of you know, he chops off his fingers and just leaves him kind of in a, you know, paralyzed state, basically. ah The guy's on ah the floor because he, his leg is cut open.
00:43:59
Speaker
um But he's, you know, slicing and dicing Mia. and while she is just in her little vegetable state right there, I wish she wasn't that chopped up at that point because, you know, she's just kind of looking at him.
00:44:17
Speaker
And yeah, that's when he looks at her ah forcefully just saying, hey, this is what you wanted. i wish there was a moment of fear in her eyes in that moment, just um instead of it being, you know, her being afraid of him attacking her leading up to it.
00:44:39
Speaker
Yeah, if she was alive and got a reaction and before that happened. But I will say, I do love her reaction when Art first bursts in there with the chainsaw.
00:44:50
Speaker
Dude, watching that, I don't think there's any music playing. It's just the sound of the chainsaw and they're screaming and she's behind him.
00:45:00
Speaker
And he's like, his hand is chopped, but he's holding the chainsaw back. I'm like, good. Thank God he's fighting back. These movies don't always have people fighting back like this. Not the Terrifier movies, but horror in general.
00:45:14
Speaker
But they're in close quarters. They can't get out of there. It's fucking... intense and just art's face oh man it's i'm getting chills just thinking about it it's crazy and she's i don't remember what she's screaming i i wish i did but she's saying actual words and it makes the scene feel so real i know she's screaming for help at certain points but she's Almost, I think, pleading for Cole's life in that moment, too, as art is chopping him up. It's fucking crazy, man. i
00:45:54
Speaker
I am always going to remember... the Not just this scene, almost every kill in this movie. I don't want to spoil our rankings, but this movie through and through has just memorable kill after memorable kill.
00:46:11
Speaker
They're so fun and gross. ah It's great. Would you like to explain how Cole meets his demise being a male and all?
00:46:23
Speaker
Oh, geez. So...
00:46:27
Speaker
And what I do like about Cole when he's about to get it is he's pleading for Mia's life too. While he can't do anything about it, but he's broken up that she had whatever the hell happened to her. And he doesn't, he can't see what happened to her, but he just knows are this clown is done with her and he's on her way to me. So she must be fucked up right now.
00:46:55
Speaker
Cause he's like, Mia, no! And I was just like, fuck. This is so intense. But... So, Art takes his chainsaw and basically, again, bone tomahawks him. Terrifier 1s him with the chainsaw from asshole and genitals.
00:47:16
Speaker
Not all the way through his body. Not quite like he does that woman in Terrifier 1. I will say, the woman in Terrifier 1 probably had it worse and more horrific than this guy did that chainsaw went through a lot quicker and he passed out very fast into that process yeah so people out there who thought you know that art was just going after the women in these films he's not look at how he killed this guy
00:47:49
Speaker
He gets this guy pretty bad.
Santa's Death and Art's Antics
00:47:51
Speaker
He gets Santa in one of the most awful ways I could think of. But when this guy's getting cut in half, you can get glimpses of his balls and his genitals, like everything, getting absolutely mutilated.
00:48:08
Speaker
it's You're kind of happy that he passed out. in the middle of that but honestly no one else really gets that they don't get to pass out they live through all of these deaths in such awful ways i do ah i want to hop around a bit more ah to talk about a couple more deaths and a couple more scenes but do you have anything else to say about cole's death or the shower scene no take us to the next death that you want to discuss
00:48:43
Speaker
Okay, let's get to Santa. We can touch on the Santa death right now, or the Santa scene in general. This is my favorite part of the movie, I think.
00:48:55
Speaker
There's a lot of Santa antics, actually, that I would like to talk about, but... this in particular is probably my favorite art is just walking by this bar and sees Santa in the window and fanboys out the face art makes. He's like, Oh my God, that's Santa.
00:49:15
Speaker
Yeah. I in my reading of this art believes that there is a Santa in this world and art believes that he's now come across the real Santa and he checks the beard to make sure he's real it's real and the Santa tells him you can't be Santa without the beard so that comes into play later with this guy's fate.
00:49:39
Speaker
But yeah, Art is geeking out and they must think he has some kind of disability or something because they're being really cool with this deceased demon clown yeah coming in, not talking, gesturing wildly and freaking out. And I like that Santa is telling him, like, I'm in the suit. If he wants Santa, that's what he gets.
00:50:05
Speaker
I mean, what do you think about Art geeking out over Santa? I found it amusing. He was just over there pointing to the ah decoration of Santa, just like, oh my God, it's you. It's really you.
00:50:20
Speaker
So i thought that was a I thought that was adorable. I'm not going to lie. He was so hyped up. And then I agree. I like the fact that um the guy who plays Santa, he's still kind of going along with it because I hate in movies when they have... um They're mainly, you know, children's movies where the kid, they're being nosy and they're trying to ah find Santa behind, you know, the employee door or wherever they're at.
00:50:49
Speaker
And the person playing them is on the phone yelling at you know, their boss and agent, whoever, and then they rip off their beard and their hat. And they're just an old grumpy drunk. And it just, you know, kills the whole illusion for the kid.
00:51:07
Speaker
So at least this guy, he goes along with it Not like, um why do i keep forgetting her name? Ellie in the second one.
00:51:18
Speaker
Was it Ellie? Yeah. Maybe, possibly. Wow. I'm sorry, guys. I failed you on these names. but That was a long time ago. It was. the girl from the bedroom scene, um she was being so mean to Art. He was just trick-or-treating. He wanted candy, and she's like being so dismissive. No, you're too old for that.
00:51:39
Speaker
Get out of here. Or this guy, he's much older than Art. Well, maybe. Who knows? um But he's still going along with it and, you know, trying to keep this guy in high spirits. I respect that about this Santa Claus.
00:51:53
Speaker
Yeah, he tells him, just like when I played Elvis, but he gets Santa. I'm in the outfit. He gets Santa. One detail I find kind of funny is when Art rushes in out of excitement, he knocks these two women over that are leaving, and one of them is like, hey, you fucking racist.
00:52:14
Speaker
And I just thought that was... a nice thing to call him i rewound it like three times just to hear it over and over i was delighted by someone calling art racist um i don't know how he's only killed one person of color as far as i know i'm not too sure but i think so yeah Yeah, calling art race. No, two, actually, at this point.
00:52:41
Speaker
One at the beginning of this and one in Terrifier, too. But I appreciate someone calling art out on it, finally. He's had it coming. but Very true.
00:52:53
Speaker
ah These other two guys in the bar, one of them's named Smoke, I think. ah Eddie and Smokey. Yeah. They both get let off the hook pretty easily. I mean, Eddie gets shot in the neck and bleeds out, but that's pretty pretty easy to Not that bad for Art.
00:53:15
Speaker
And then Smokey just gets a bullet in the head and dies immediately. Santa, the guy who's the nicest one to him in that interaction, the only time he really gets pissed is when Art pees on him. And yeah, rightfully so. That piss is probably rancid.
00:53:31
Speaker
he ah But Art gives Santa the worst treatment ever. He takes his suit and this guy bargaining with Art. Nice touch. I really enjoyed his acting, him trying to reason with him.
00:53:46
Speaker
Say, you want the hat? is ah Where did this situation go wrong, buddy? do you want the hat? You and I are in the same business, Clowny. He keeps calling him Clowny in this situation. And then we cut to Art is in the Santa outfit. And this guy's taped up to the chair. He's bound to a chair.
00:54:04
Speaker
And Art takes this liquid nitrogen that he was testing on rats earlier, freezes his whole body, and just starts shattering blood. all of him while this dude's alive he shatters his legs his arms his hands it almost looks like cherry pie from like mcdonald's or some fast food place yeah pouring out that's what i thought like it looks like pie you you
00:54:32
Speaker
i was like i could eat that probably looks delicious comparison very good comparison But when he shatters the dude's face and Art rips his beard off because he needs the beard to be Santa, can't be Santa without the beard. The guy shouldn't have said that. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten frozen as his death.
00:54:52
Speaker
But Art shatters his face, the guy's eyes still moving, he's still alive, and Art just completely... Yeah, just shatters this guy to nothing. And ah it's so intense. And I feel bad for him. But that's when, as dictated in Tim Allen's The Santa Claus, art has now become Santa in this moment.
00:55:16
Speaker
You see, at least Jack Skellington, when he was trying to become Santa, he wanted Santa Claus to be taken care of um by little Oogie Boogie boys. ah And they he um fucking kidnap the guy but it's funny because he's just he being you know nice and cordial with him um but then he's like oh wait let me take your hat and then just lets them fucking take him wherever
00:55:49
Speaker
ah He doesn't specify what to do. He just wants them to take care of them. So he didn't kill this guy. Whereas Art just like loves the guy, fanboys all over him, and then fucking ices him. that Oh, God.
00:56:03
Speaker
i was thinking like, wow, that has to fucking hurt. But my husband was like, well, he probably doesn't feel his legs because they were frozen, which is very true. but It's so uncomfortable to watch.
00:56:19
Speaker
It was shattering. Yeah, it's... Again, I almost said one of the worst things I could have watched. In any other movie, that would be the case. This would be the moment we talk about, but this is fucking softball for Terrifier 3, I guess.
00:56:38
Speaker
It is pretty horrific, though. I feel bad for him. The... Him and Jack Skellington do aspire to the same things, though. They want to be Santa, and they love the spirit of Christmas. And for that, I admire Art.
00:56:55
Speaker
If his goal in all of this was just to become Santa, is he any worse than Jack Skellington? Whoa. What are you trying to say about Jack Skellington right now?
00:57:07
Speaker
Are the crimes of Jack Skellington more forgivable than the crimes of Art the Clown? Of course they are. and pretty sure they're both felonies that they're committing. Yeah, I mean, there were some houses that he dropped some questionable presents in. There was a snake that was eating a tree, so it could have potentially have eaten the family in there.
00:57:32
Speaker
But they don't show that. They don't show that. They show a little jack-in-the-box chasing a kid. But, you know, the kid was a bit hefty, if I'm remembering it correctly. So he they were just exercising.
00:57:45
Speaker
Same argument could be made for Art the Clown, man. We don't know if he killed those kids at the beginning. They didn't show it. he could have just been He could have given him a toy snake.
00:57:57
Speaker
Very true. Yeah, very true. But he had a weapon, and then the weapon was bloody. Jack Skellington, he just dropped those presents in and then dipped off. He had all these other houses to go to, whereas Art, he only went to one.
00:58:12
Speaker
You know, but Art commits to his women. You know, he's with Vicky through all of these movies. Jack doesn't give a fuck about Sally in those movies. Jack, he doesn't know how to treat women. he's just casts her off to the side like, I don't care. You could be a slave. Who cares?
00:58:31
Speaker
Oh, damn. Let's not go that far. He's just oblivious to Sally's crush on him. You know, i I didn't fucking know if any guy liked me when they did in high school. um if i If a guy liked me, I did not know unless they told me. and It would actually be funny because if my mom would pick me up from school and you know I was staying for ROTC practice or doing whatever, she would see someone and say, you know that guy's staring at you. i think they like you. I'm like...
00:59:09
Speaker
You don't know that. Like, no, they don't. No, they don't. And then years later, I find out that they did. I'm like, oh, well, oops. How was I supposed to know? But yeah, he's just oblivious. You can't blame Jack Skellington for wanting to focus on a career choice that he was making in that movie.
00:59:28
Speaker
Hey, Art took Vicky with him on his rise to the top. Art was thinking, I have career moves I want to make. I want to be Santa. And Vicky, you can be my Mrs. Claus.
00:59:41
Speaker
Art is ride or die. Art and Vicky, they are Dom and Letty. They are... I'm trying to think of other great cinematic couples.
00:59:52
Speaker
They are... Han Solo and Leia, I'm pretty sure they didn't last. they They break up at a certain point. Spoilers for Star Wars. um They're among the great cinematic couples, even though I didn't list any of them. I love how dedicated you are to try to prove this point to me.
01:00:14
Speaker
Yeah. but Who are some couples? Help me out here. I mean, this just shows that you don't need someone.
01:00:26
Speaker
ah No, let me not say that. That's going to come off so bad right now. They're Chucky and Tiffany. Say No, no. I don't want to make a a mean comment right now. But um I mean, look at Tiffany's demise.
01:00:41
Speaker
They didn't have a happy ending there. Until they did, it is spoilers for the chuck the Charles movies, the Chucky movies. ah Jennifer Tilly comes back around. you know they They're having a little lesbian relationship now, Chucky and Tiffany.
01:01:00
Speaker
Yeah, but if you think about it, Jack Skellington does end up with Sally at the end. Yeah. ah it's There's no longevity there. Dude, shut up.
01:01:10
Speaker
Shut up. Don't diss my movie. That is my movie through and fucking through. You cannot change my mind on that. Anyway, back to Terrifier 3. so um i want to get into the mall scene where- This is one of the best parts of the movie.
01:01:31
Speaker
So Art, he's doing his thing as Santa, the real san wall the real actor Santa that they've hired for them all, takes a break, goes on lunch, and Art takes his place ah in Santa's throne up there.
01:01:49
Speaker
And just found it funny that none of these parents who let their kids go up there willingly gave a shit that this Santa Claus has paint on his face.
01:02:02
Speaker
That should have been the biggest indicator that something was wrong right there. um They didn't notice because they were too busy on their phones. Like parents these days, these millennial parents all on their phones. It was social commentary.
01:02:19
Speaker
It was. And yeah, they were very negligent. I that just oh, God, it drives me crazy when i see a parent walking with their child who is basically a toddler and they're just too busy on their phone and their kid is walking behind them, not in front of them, next to them, holding their hand or anything.
01:02:41
Speaker
They're behind them. And it's just like, you know, someone could easily kidnap this kid. I could easily go grab this kid as bad as that sounds. But it's like, you're not fucking paying attention. Pay attention to your kid right there. Geez.
01:02:56
Speaker
These people, they didn't care. They just let their fucking kid go up, see Santa. He could have gave them, you know, ah creepy tape that had porn on it or just a snuff film as a present. But no, no one cared.
01:03:09
Speaker
No one cared at all. g He gave some of them pretty pretty normal toys. One of the kids got a bomb. that That's not not that chill. But one of them got a doll.
01:03:24
Speaker
Sucks to be the kid who got the bomb there. Dude, security, that mall security sucks. That security guy comes up to Art and is like, all right, buddy, let's get out of here.
01:03:36
Speaker
Walks him maybe 30 feet away and then just leaves him there. Doesn't escort him ah out of the mall, not into the parking lot, just a little bit away within still like view of of the Santa chair. it's right It's ridiculous.
01:03:55
Speaker
Yeah, that was pathetic. Even when the security guy came up to, um and war wo was he, an elf or something? He was just um telling the security guy, that's not our Santa. and when security is walking up, you see the elf kind of like hitting his fist, like, yeah, go get him or something.
01:04:17
Speaker
you're not even going to do anything about it. And. oh he's scared. He says he's scared. Exactly. So that I, I just found that so stupid and funny, but, um, there was a lot of issues with this scene because, you know, the kid with the bomb, it blows up and all of these kids and their parents, everyone in that vicinity, they get killed.
01:04:45
Speaker
Um, It felt very jingle all the way. i'm not going to lie. explain that Explain that, please. Because there's a bomb that they have in Jingle. Oh, yeah. Sinbad's character.
01:04:59
Speaker
Keeps Sany as a bomb. I don't know why. I was thinking of the stupid um there fucking ghetto factory where all the little Santas are there and they got into that big fight and that midget was there. They blow up like a radio station. They do, Yeah.
01:05:19
Speaker
I forgot about that part. that I love that movie. I know. That movie rules, man. this and Jingle All the Way and Terrifier 3 are like the two best Christmas movies, maybe.
01:05:30
Speaker
We're bringing up a lot of Christmas movies for a horror podcast. We got to stop this. It's a Christmas episode. I said Merry Christmas. Ho, ho, ho. Did the full thing. You and I sang Silent Night, Deadly Night or whatever. it That's not the name of the song.
01:05:45
Speaker
You and I sang Silent Night, ah Holy Night. Silent Night, Deadly Night. youre Yeah, you and I watched Silent Night, Deadly Night. We could cover that. That's a horror movie. yeah but That is a good ass movie.
01:06:00
Speaker
We'll have to remember that. But yeah, I know a lot of people, they didn't like this film because of this scene. They were saying, oh you know, Damien Leone went too far with that. You know, that was that was wrong. All this stupid shit ah towards kids and, you know, this death scene here.
01:06:23
Speaker
but he doesn't show it. He shows maybe the aftermath of it or gives yeah some gruesome sound effects, but he doesn't show it. so The aftermath is very fucked up.
01:06:36
Speaker
I could get why people may be sensitive about this because it's essentially art is committing an act of terrorism on American soil and killing a bunch of children in the process.
01:06:51
Speaker
it you know I don't know if there's any real life events that... mirror this but this feels like something that could happen in real life but guys it's just it's a movie you gotta chill out this is maybe one of the more tame things that they've done in this franchise Yeah, I was watching, um i reference this guy a lot, Cody Leach. He was talking about the film and he was saying, you know, this is not the first film where they are including ah death scene of a child. and he referenced Stephen King's It because, um you know,
01:07:37
Speaker
in that movie they show the infamous scene of Georgie getting his arm basically torn off and then killed ah by Pennywise in the sewer.
01:07:48
Speaker
And then even the one part in the beginning where um there's a little girl, she's on a tricycle outside right in her yard and Pennywise is just hiding in their laundry that's hanging out there.
01:08:00
Speaker
um That was the scene that originally scared the hell out of me with that movie because of how tim curry's face was in there but that was a death scene in there and a lot of people like the movie it and they didn't go too crazy on that scene as well as all these other movies so why is it this one that makes it such an issue go to hell people In Star Wars Episode III, Revenge of the Sith, Anakin Skywalker slaughters a whole bunch of children off screen. and That's in a movie that made like hundreds of millions of dollars, potentially. um Hobo with a shotgun, they burn a whole bus full of kids alive in that movie. ah and Also, child's play. Yes.
01:08:47
Speaker
child's play You have a fucking guy performing a voodoo ritual to transfer his soul into a doll and then befriends little boy and wants to fucking take over his body. So he's going to get killed pretty much. And that whole fucking series is him trying to follow him and kill him pretty much. So why is this any different?
01:09:16
Speaker
Yeah, kids dying in movies, it happens, you know? It's just something we gotta get used to, folks. Guys, what do you think? Are you against this film and how these kids met their fate in here?
01:09:31
Speaker
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01:09:48
Speaker
I will say one of my favorite horror movies of all time, Dr. Sleep, I'm not too sure if you've seen it, that has some kid moments that did actually upset me.
01:10:01
Speaker
ah There's two moments in particular in that movie that we'll get into whenever we and inevitably cover Dr. Sleep. i I intend on working that in somehow through some type of miniseries or season. Yeah.
01:10:14
Speaker
Yeah, sometimes it does really hit me hard, but I don't think they should not be in the movies, though. Yeah, it's there are scenes from other movies.
01:10:27
Speaker
i can't really think of them off the top of my head, but children are getting abused, and you know they're showing some ah point of view of it.
01:10:38
Speaker
I cannot stand watching those types of movies. um What was it? I think it's called... bastard out of Carolina. This girl, she is getting sexually assaulted um by her mom's boyfriend ah throughout the entire film. and The mom...
01:11:02
Speaker
only sees him pretty much abusing her, but doesn't fucking leave him. and Other people find out, and this girl basically never gets help, but you see just like him hitting her in some scenes.
01:11:17
Speaker
You just know what's going on. That was fucking hard to watch. This movie, I didn't leave with that ah feeling with um the death scenes involving the children here.
01:11:29
Speaker
um Maybe I did in the beginning, just not with the the mall scene, just because of how it was presented. Yeah, the beginning was a lot more intimate and pretty upsetting.
01:11:43
Speaker
The explosion is pretty quick. That's what you can at least say. It's one of Art's more humane killings was that explosion. That's why it feels kind of softball.
01:11:53
Speaker
It is kind of funny to me that Art is a terrorist now. Yeah, pretty much. And he's still driving in this fucking movie. And it does remind me of, you know, like you were saying, Halloween, where Michael Myers is just driving around doing his thing over there.
01:12:15
Speaker
um and I have to just say, i can't wait for when we cover the Halloween films, because those are so near and dear to my heart. I just have to say it. I know it's going to be a special moment when we fully decide to pull the trigger and cover the Halloween movies. I feel like that is going to be a mutual decision we're going to need to come towards because there's there's a lot. That might be one of our longest series that we cover because if we do Halloweens, I'd like to do the zombies and the David Gordon greens in there. Oh, of course. Yeah, we have to do all of them.
01:12:52
Speaker
ah No, I'm not a fan of all of them. Even in like the original franchise, I'm not a fan of all of them, but we have to go through all of them. so That's going to be a journey, and it's going to be fun as fucking hell.
01:13:05
Speaker
Let's go. I know. I'm so stoked for when we get to the point of eventually covering Halloween. And guys, what we've got coming up next too, we were just talking about more series to cover in the future.
01:13:20
Speaker
We've got two more locked in and near the end of this episode, we're going to reveal ah what we're going to be doing going forward for the next couple of weeks. But yeah, man, we got some cool ones lined up.
01:13:33
Speaker
It's going to be great, guys Go back, listen to our our earlier episodes. You don't necessarily have to, um you know, watch the first or listen to the first episode to kind of listen to these ones.
01:13:47
Speaker
You can go and order however you want to do it. Just keep up with them because, yeah, we're going to start introducing some good films in there. So you want to be here for that. Yeah, make sure you check out our whole back catalog.
01:14:00
Speaker
Before we fully start to wrap up the episode, I do want to talk about a another kill that really fucked with me, and I kind of want to tackle the end a little bit so we can hit both of these at once.
01:14:16
Speaker
But Sienna's aunt, I can't remember her name off the top of my head, But her death is one that I had to, I couldn't watch actually, i think both times. I watched it, so I saw Terrifier 3 in theaters when it came out.
01:14:33
Speaker
And I did watch it fully in theaters because I remembered in detail everything that happened. So I felt comfortable looking away on this rewatch. But she's strapped to a chair. She thinks that ah Gabby is dead, but it gets revealed that it's Jonathan and Gabby's alive.
01:14:54
Speaker
And she basically, Vicky takes a big tube. i don't know if it's glass or whatever, but she takes a giant tube and shoves it in her throat.
01:15:06
Speaker
And then It's so gross. Blood is spewing out some like white liquid, whether it's p pus or vomit, is coming out and Art's hammering it in, just destroying her throat and they put rats in there, make them run down with fire.
01:15:23
Speaker
Slid her throat, the rats come out. It's fucking vile. It's upsetting. She's alive throughout all of this. It's... One of the deaths where i actually thought people say they took it too far with the kids, what you were just telling me, I was thinking that with this death, this thing, they took it too far.
01:15:44
Speaker
This is one of the most mean and horrific deaths I could imagine. You're putting live animals inside of this person while you're killing them. And yeah, this is the one I'm pretty sure that made me gag.
01:15:57
Speaker
It was absolutely disgusting. ah you Did you love it? Do you feel like she deserved it? Yeah, I... No, of course not. i i think her name was Jess in the film.
01:16:11
Speaker
um she She wasn't a character that I could say i liked. Yeah, they showed her a little bit, but... You know, she wasn't a big character in here, so it's not like I was attached to her.
01:16:24
Speaker
um i think I was more ah attached, you could say, to Gabby, the little girl in here, um because they do show her more. They give her more of a personality ah compared to her mom.
01:16:39
Speaker
But no, her death was disgusting. And it's crazy because normally in movies, in horror movies, when they are bringing an animal in, whether it's just to have an animal in there or they decide to kill it off,
01:16:57
Speaker
It's a dog nine times out of 10. But in this one, they're rodents. You have a possum. You have rats. Ew. Why do we have to have these nasty things in here? And that just adds to the discomfort you feel in these movies. It's already gross and gruesome but now you're just adding these fucking animals that no one likes almost everyone is grossed out by rats so no one wants to see them unless you're a fan of them no one wants to touch them but you have a fucking death scene where you are just forcing them down this woman's throat that's and then they cut her fucking neck and they come out
01:17:41
Speaker
Ew. ah Awful. Awful stuff here.
01:17:47
Speaker
gross. It's maybe the one death in the movie where I probably could have gone without now that I'm thinking about it. It's a lot. It's almost too much. No, it definitely a lot.
01:18:00
Speaker
The one death scene that I didn't like was Jonathan's because we don't see it. Yes, it dies off screen.
01:18:11
Speaker
Yes, they just show a skull that's all fucked up and then they ah put Jonathan's glasses on on it. so They're basically telling Sienna, yes, we killed him.
01:18:24
Speaker
I don't believe that he's dead. that I feel like he's too big of a character to have him die off screen. They kill the uncle and they been decapitate him and they have him you know pinned up like a cross on the wall, but they have his head as a star on the Christmas tree.
01:18:46
Speaker
That was weird. i um i That I didn't really care that we didn't get to see that, but it's like you can't do that to a main character, so I don't believe he's dead. I think they're just fucking with her.
01:19:01
Speaker
Yeah, that could have been Cole's or Mia's skull that was in that cage with those rats. Mm-hmm, definitely. i I feel like they're going to bring back Jonathan in some way.
01:19:12
Speaker
I had that feeling, too. i was convinced that he was dead the first time, ah but it i mean that's usually a sign in these movies. You kill the character offscreen. If you don't see a body, then they're probably alive. You're using that as a way to maybe bring them back if narratively it's interesting. Yeah.
01:19:30
Speaker
Yeah, very true. um The part that was really gross to me was when um Art and Sienna, they're fighting, battling it out to the death, and he fucking shoves her head in her uncle's split down in half stomach and he's just like you know shoving her all in there and oh my god that was so disgusting
01:20:01
Speaker
I really love the shot leading up to him smashing her face in there. It's like Sienna. yeah I mean, you guys can watch it. I don't need to describe it, but it's just from her on the ground, a downward angle shooting at, ah like aiming at her and she gets up and then Art grabs her by the neck. And it's just, it's so cool.
01:20:23
Speaker
It's this whole chainsaw sword fight between, sienna and art is, I found it exhilarating. It's one of the most ah exciting and energetic and cool parts of the whole series. I it's i was sitting there just speechless watching it this time. It shows that Damien is very good at directing action, too. It's very well edited, very...
01:20:52
Speaker
Well shot. i It must have been very difficult. I think it was probably a long process shooting it. I wish I got to listen to the commentary for this one. But goddammit, that chainsaw sword fight is so cool. It's awesome. I'm wondering... i hope we get more of that. I love...
01:21:11
Speaker
these little battles that people have with art, they always excite me. And this one is the best. This is kind of why this movie is projected like to the fucking top for me.
01:21:23
Speaker
So I have a different opinion. I, Yeah, I like the fact that, you know, Sienna has her sword and Art's weapon of choice is a chainsaw for their final battle.
01:21:37
Speaker
But felt like this scene was a little too long for my liking. um i I love when they have her, you know, tied up in the chair, taped up, and he's just walking back and forth, slapping the fuck out of her head. He slapped her 50 ways from fucking Sunday. It was hilarious. That was kind of funny.
01:21:57
Speaker
It was. um but you know, just them going at it you know Taking forever for her to get the sword itself with Vicky. And then i just don't like Vicky's character. know they should have just stuck with the little pale girl.
01:22:18
Speaker
um But then when you have Sienna and Art fighting, i don't know. I like the fight scene more in the second one. i felt that one was a little long, too.
01:22:31
Speaker
but at least, you know, Jonathan was in there and he was getting attacked as well. um They're not really attacking Gabby. They already killed off um Aunt Jess and it's just him and Sienna going at it for a long time. So I felt like this scene was a little too long. It was good, but i think it could have been shortened a little bit.
01:22:55
Speaker
Oh, damn. Yeah, I was fully on board with this. I kind of agree with you. The events leading up to the fight, I was thinking, man, this is dragging a little bit.
01:23:07
Speaker
um But yeah, I i found a that battle just so exciting. It really worked for me. I like the final part where Sienna stabs him with her sword and his fucking eyes turn pure white.
01:23:30
Speaker
That was terrifying. Yeah, and he's like biting in her direction, too. And that's when this like portal to hell or what was the portal to the clown cafe in the last movie opens up.
01:23:47
Speaker
And it's kind of funny. Sienna, the only object she thinks to grab is the sword. I was just like, I mean, I understand your cousin's in peril, but you may want to find something else that is easier for you to grab onto as well.
01:24:07
Speaker
But so watching it this time, i I realized that it was just a way for the sister or the cousin to be able to go to hell or this demon realm and have the sword with her because the cousin has the sword at the end of this altercation.
01:24:24
Speaker
You know what? That's a good point because that that scene annoyed me because her fucking hands pretty much look like ground beef when they were um smashing them when she was tied up.
01:24:39
Speaker
So they're pretty fucked up. And you see she's struggling to open her her present with the sword in it. But then when she when Gabby runs up to her, she kind of grabs her head So she still has full mobility of her hands.
01:24:55
Speaker
And then when Gabby is just hanging on um while she's falling into the portal, I was just thinking, why the fuck didn't she just grab some Christmas lights to hand over to Gabby? That would have been a lot easier. You're just slicing your hands up even more.
01:25:10
Speaker
But yeah, that makes sense. It was a way for Gabby to bring the sword to hell with her. we'll what happens. way she can... survive I assume or maybe she becomes the warrior angel that Sienna's dad has been drawing maybe it's not Sienna who becomes that ooh the plot thickens Yeah, because I'm wondering if these movies are going to do weird stuff with time.
01:25:39
Speaker
It seemed like All Hallows' Eve, a little bit, had some weird time stuff with the phone call that's made at the end of the movie and it being the phone call from the movie that they were watching. I'm wondering if there's going to be some weird time shenanigans when they go into this demon pit.
01:25:53
Speaker
I hope... ah They take it to some really wild and wacky places with this one. There is a something they do at the end of the movie that I did enjoy a little bit. I wonder if it has any actual meaning or if it's just an Easter egg, but Art basically escapes and ends up ah on a bus at the end of this movie.
01:26:17
Speaker
This was Damien Leone's original conception for... The Ninth Circle, it takes place at a train station, but he wanted it to take place on a bus, I'm pretty sure.
01:26:30
Speaker
And Art gets on, sits right down, and there's a lady reading a book called ah The Ninth Circle by Rosemary Cassiavetti, I think.
01:26:41
Speaker
I don't know who that is. I paused the TV. I couldn't really read the description. it was... The TV I was watching it on gets fuzzy whenever I pause it. It's kind of annoying, but then he pulls out a little honker, honks the horn, and it's Terrifier Christmas starts playing.
01:26:58
Speaker
That's a wrap on this picture. Yeah, i thought that was a cool little um Easter egg that he included in there. I didn't even think to ah see if the author of that book was anyone related to the film.
01:27:13
Speaker
Guys, if she is, let us know. But yeah, watch in the second the second one, the fourth one. Yeah, Gabby's in hell. She's, you know, using the sword to her advantage.
01:27:27
Speaker
Hopefully meets up with Jonathan and finds a way to save them, but... Yeah, you know, I can't wait for this next one to come out because i want to see i want to see more art.
01:27:38
Speaker
I want this world to, you know, amp up the brutality in this next one because it always seems to do that with ah the following films. So I'm psyched.
01:27:49
Speaker
Me too. i I have no idea what Terrifier 4 is going to look like. I listened to Damien Leone on the Inside of You podcast recently in hopes that he would give some details about it, but he really doesn't talk about that or his next projects, but...
01:28:08
Speaker
I'm excited. He is officially wrapping it up after Terrifier 4, even though there's a letterbox page for Terrifier 5. He confirmed he wants to finish it at 4 and go on and do other things. I don't know if... I think I heard something about him working with Sam Raimi's production company on a movie.
01:28:29
Speaker
coming up so that's pretty exciting one final thing i want to mention about the movie in the credits there's a song chrissy by dream kid that plays i love that song choice earlier on in the movie sienna is having a bonding moment with gabby there's a lot of heart to it i really enjoy it and they're playing this like electronic pop rock type of music in the background and All of these song choices are supposed to represent the kind of music that Sienna's into, and I dig her music choice. It's very laid back, and using that, having the music be kind of diegetic, it adds a nice vibe to this world. I really dig it.
01:29:11
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Any final thoughts on the film before we go into our rankings? No, I think I'll get my final thoughts out when we when we do our rankings.
01:29:24
Speaker
All right cool. So start us off with our rankings, guys. We are going to rank our likings for the Terrifier films because this is the last film for the time being in the franchise. So we might as well get our rankings out now.
01:29:43
Speaker
So what is your least favorite film in this franchise? Yeah, I can... Basically, from least favorite to favorite, it goes in release order. All Hallows' Eve, Terrifier, Terrifier 2, then Terrifier 3.
01:29:58
Speaker
Terrifier 3 is up top for me. It's my favorite. I think it's... ah The Christmas element adds so much to it for me. I love a Christmas movie. I love the season. I love a Christmas horror movie. It's so rare to get one that's actually...
01:30:15
Speaker
like working for me and doesn't feel cheesy and isn't too comedic. I really ah dug this. This and like Black Christmas maybe are my two favorite Christmas horror movies. I haven't really analyzed that statement, but yeah, Terrifier 3 takes it all. This movie rules. ah That chainsaw sequence actually is probably what projects it to the top for me because of, like I said, how exhilarating i had found it.
01:30:48
Speaker
The kills in Terrifier 3 are relentless, memorable, fun. Art is fun and the funniest I think he's ever been. i I really enjoyed my time with this franchise, but yeah, I think they've been getting better as they've been coming out, and I'm really excited to see Terrifier 4. I hope that it's better than Terrifier 3.
01:31:10
Speaker
At least in my opinion, they keep getting better, so yeah. Nice, nice. My ranking is a little different from yours, so Nice, nice.
01:31:23
Speaker
My ranking from least favorite to top favorite is Terrifier, All Hallows Eve, Terrifier 3, and Terrifier 2 is my favorite one.
01:31:36
Speaker
Okay, I want to hear... Terrifier 2 being your favorite doesn't fully surprise me. I want to hear your bottom two having Terrifier at the bottom in All Hallows Eve 3rd.
01:31:49
Speaker
I find that very surprising. I respect the hell out of it, though. All Hallows Eve... So you did like enjoy that movie a decent amount, it seems. Yeah.
01:32:00
Speaker
I enjoyed it more than Terrifier.
Critique of 'Terrifier' Series
01:32:05
Speaker
Terrifier no fucking plot. The two ah main characters in there that were supposed to follow annoy the fuck out of me because of how stupid they are and the dumbass choices that they make throughout the film.
01:32:19
Speaker
um And yeah, it was just mainly brutality. No storyline to follow ah along with. And I don't like that in films. I want there to be a storyline for me to latch on to or relate to those I find to be more of the, you know, meaningful, impactful films.
01:32:44
Speaker
um With All Hallows Eve, yes, it was um a bunch of stories put into one, um an anthology, but it I like just the whole um background of it.
01:33:01
Speaker
I forgot the word that you used to describe but how it's... The framing. Framing, yes. um You have a babysitter ah with these two kids. They have a film. They're watching it throughout the movie.
01:33:14
Speaker
um And then she continues to watch it by herself. And then little by little, it's coming to life in her in her reality realm. um i like the train station scene just because I can relate to it.
01:33:27
Speaker
And then the last segment of the film where um that girl is at the gas station, it's just so fucking creepy to think about.
01:33:39
Speaker
um So I enjoyed those two sections in there. um So that definitely gave it a higher place for me compared to Terrifier.
01:33:50
Speaker
um Can you see yourself re-watching All Hallows' Eve ever? I can. yeah If it's on TV, I'll watch it. i may I don't know if it'll ever be on TV.
01:34:03
Speaker
I know, but if it was, um if I saw it just, ah you know, in my cabinet, I'll be like, yeah, I could watch it. I'll put it on as like background noise.
01:34:15
Speaker
um Maybe I'll fast forward certain scenes, but um i could probably rewatch it. I might not do it frequently, but i could probably rewatch it once in a while. Yeah, and then going to um my top favorite, just,
01:34:34
Speaker
Sienna being introduced in Terrifier 2, you get a little bit of background of their family, well, a big background of their family, um but a little bit of a backstory on ah you know her ah angel warrior costume, her just putting it together, um all the characters in there.
01:34:55
Speaker
It was a um solid film for me, one that I did not expect that I would really like. I have been ah re-watching it ever since I actually did watch it a few months ago.
01:35:09
Speaker
um so Once we were covering ah the movie for the podcast, I was just fully ready on it because i watched it so many times.
01:35:21
Speaker
um But it's just, it's beautifully made. I love her character. I love all those characters in there. And I think just with Terrifier 3,
01:35:32
Speaker
three
01:35:34
Speaker
I would say mainly because of how choppy it feels. That's why I like Terrifier 2 more. I think Terrifier 2 just flows consecutively throughout the film.
01:35:47
Speaker
And this one, it goes from person to person. it doesn't have the fluidity like 2 does. So, um yeah, I just, I like ah how...
01:36:00
Speaker
you know Even though Sienna is pretty damaged in part two, she holds herself together. In this one, she's more damaged, and that's coming to the surface a lot, but I think...
01:36:16
Speaker
If part four delivers the way I'm anticipating, I think I'll like her character more in there. um But i i was I just wasn't of as much of a fan of her character in here compared to how I was in part two.
01:36:32
Speaker
Sorry, that was a mouthful. But yeah, those are my rankings. No, that was very well put. I respect the rankings. I do. For some reason, I thought we might have a similar ranking and two and three might just be the things that are a little different, but I like it.
01:36:50
Speaker
ah I dig it a lot. Very good. Very cool. What's your guys' favorite Terrifier movie? I feel like it is really between two and three. yeah The ones that go together in this franchise, it's a battle on which one is the best. but yeah I feel like a lot of people probably like part three more than part two.
01:37:12
Speaker
and Two and three really have... ah i mean, there are similar similarities to but they really have different vibes. There's different things happening in each movie.
01:37:24
Speaker
ah You really can't... Both movies really can have their own, like, no, this is my favorite. No, this is my favorite. I wonder what four is going to do. I really hope that four is an undeniable...
01:37:38
Speaker
we all view this as the best. It's a good closer and we don't want any more terrifiers unless the creator wants to give us more.
01:37:50
Speaker
Yeah, and I think that's how it'll be. They will find a way to seal it all in. Hopefully, they find a way to seal it all in, and they find a good way to end it because there are so many films out there that are not just horror films, um but so many films that have a solid ending. You think, wow, that...
01:38:13
Speaker
ah There's nowhere else to go from here. But then they end up pushing out a sequel or an extra film in that franchise. And it bothers me so much because you're kind of thinking, great, you know, we get to jump back into this world again, but we didn't have to.
01:38:30
Speaker
So, um yeah, i I just wanted to be part four and then let that be it. That's what's awful about this franchise world that we live in. Series, movie series, franchises, seemingly even TV seasons sometimes never end on a good note.
01:38:50
Speaker
We never end franchises on a good movie. I say never. There are ways I could be proven wrong. We usually don't end them on a good movie. We end them when they're starting to get bad and they're not making as much money anymore.
01:39:06
Speaker
But hopefully Terrify something where it's in the hands of the creator. He hasn't sold it. So I think but when he's done, he'll walk away and he'll be done unless, you know, this is always another thing. No, this is another thing that happens.
01:39:24
Speaker
sometimes directors creatives their careers don't always go that great they put out movies that aren't too well received so they go back and make a sequel to something that they know works and has a built-in fan base that's a possibility let's hope that doesn't happen and we just get whatever serves this narrative yeah Yeah, only time will tell what happens with Art
Upcoming Season on 'Sinister' Movies
01:39:49
Speaker
and Sienna. so um Let's root for the best here. but Do you want to give the listeners the the sneak peek or um you know the secret on what our next season is going to be about?
01:40:05
Speaker
The big reveal? Reveal, yes. I'm sorry. i can't talk. oh That's embarrassing. Reveal, big reveal. It's late and you know if you want me to cut this out, I will, but you're also about to put your body through a lot tomorrow, so conserve as much energy as you can. You don't need to remember words.
01:40:29
Speaker
Words aren't important. Yeah, that's what I have you for. You have the big words and I just have the little crayons writing my notes in here. i'll just ah I'll feed you ah synonyms in this little chat that we have if you ever need them.
01:40:45
Speaker
Watch, I would say it at the wrong time. um But yes, we're we're trying to grow here, guys. Just bear with us. But yes, do the big reveal for us, Nick. Nick.
01:40:57
Speaker
So now that we're all done with Terrifier, guys, get ready next week. We start a relatively short season, but you guys are going to love it. I've already told people in my personal life that we're covering these movies, and it seems like it might be enough to get them listening to the podcast. but We're going to be covering the two Sinister movies coming up. So the next two weeks, you're going to be getting Sinister 1 and then Sinister 2 to follow.
01:41:24
Speaker
I'm fucking excited. I have only seen Sinister once and in the theaters, never seen Sinister 2. I have, you know, ah specific experience and relationship to Sinister that I'll get into on the episode.
01:41:37
Speaker
But I'm excited to watch these. We're... We're going to be working with maybe A-list actors for the first time in this series. I mean, i can't speak for Psycho, but Ethan Hawke.
01:41:51
Speaker
My boy Ethan Hawke is going to be in this. Oh, Captain, my captain himself.
01:41:59
Speaker
Oh my God. What was that? What was that movie from? or what was that line from? That was it. Okay. Yeah. um My husband actually had me watch that not that long ago. And again, another movie where you know, I'm tearing up. I'm like, why are you having me watch these films? I'm left such in a bad place after those films.
01:42:22
Speaker
If you want a good Ethan Hawke movie, and I'm definitely going to talk about this on the Sinister Episodes listeners, you better be fucking damned if you don't think i'm going to talk about this. The Before trilogy, guys, the Richard Linklater trilogy ah with him and and Julie Depley, I think is how you say her last name.
01:42:40
Speaker
Fantastic, fantastic trilogy of just a romance spanning the course of 18 years. i think I think it's 18. Yeah, feel free to get into that because I have never heard of that. so Oh, man, if you want just sad ah yet uplifting and real love stories about the passage of time and how you know upsetting time can be ah to us and just the tragedy of life and our circumstances, then i don't know.
01:43:17
Speaker
It's a very beautiful series of movies. So, guys, we're covering those two as well as the Sinister's. So what you're saying is you want to make me cry because you want me to watch a movie that's going to make me cry.
01:43:31
Speaker
No, one I want you to watch three movies that are going to make you cry. oh wow Thank you for being specific with that. um Yeah, maybe I'll pass on that. you know I don't really like to cry with films, um but it happens so much. I'm such a baby.
01:43:50
Speaker
Okay, I'll consider it. Consider it. Before Sunrise, start with that. One of my favorite movies. And then it's Before Sunset and then Before Midnight. Great trilogy.
01:44:01
Speaker
But guys, it's sinister next week. We're doing it. I say this a lot, but we're finally doing it. You guys have been clamoring for it, all the sinister heads. all all You guys have been asking, where's Oogabooga? You've been talking about him since episode ah two and three.
01:44:19
Speaker
Where's Oogabooga? Well, you guys are getting him, calm down. You're getting him. Ooga Booga is with Crash Bandicoot. This is Mr. Boogie.
01:44:34
Speaker
Yes. That was great. That was great. But that could also be mistaken for, um you you've seen Superstar, right? I have, yes.
01:44:45
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to say, feel like I asked you that. might have talked about it the I was say, I'm pretty sure I asked you that. But, oh yeah, duh. I remember why I brought it up. But, no, it was ah the part where the grandmother, she's trying to teach um ah the Molly Shannon and her classmates how to dance. And she ah saying, okay, now, when I say booga booga, you booga booga. So that's kind of what I thought of two but yes it is mr boogie okay i don't think you talked about that on the podcast actually i didn't talk about that scene i talked about a different scene let's not go back to that scene but apparently because i rectified that um whole situation that's my husband's favorite episode now Hell yeah.
01:45:31
Speaker
Shout out to your husband. hope Hopefully he's ready for the Ooga Booga talk. Man, this, up I forgot. These are going be off the rails. You're going to hate me more than the Charles shit.
01:45:44
Speaker
I'm excited for it because i really, I love the Sinister movie. Well, the first one. I don't love the second one, but we'll get into that more later. So yeah, guys, stay tuned.
01:45:56
Speaker
is great googly moogly in ah the Sinister 2.
01:46:03
Speaker
We've been morbid curiosities, guys. Tune in for next week's episode.