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Cult of Chucky
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they wrap up their journey with the Don Mancini driven Chucky movies, with a conversation about Cult of Chucky! Getting into what works and really doesn't work about this entry. And at the end of the episode, they reveal the next series that they will be covering on the pod.
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Introduction and Technical Mishaps
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up, guys? We're Morbid Curiosities bringing you another episode. I'm Nicholas Sewers, and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the Morbid Mistress of Mayhem herself. Mercedes Martinez. And let's see how many times I hit my microphone this episode.
00:01:28
Speaker
I am so embarrassed about that last time. Yeah, we were really fumbling. And i before we started recording, I took my mic apart and put it back together. I'm like, I can't have it like fumbling. Because before I sat down to record, I bumped it. And it got knocked over. And I was like, damn it. It's like so sensitive for some reason.
00:01:50
Speaker
yeah or we're just more clumsy. Yeah, and that was the one episode I feel as if we were really trying to, well, we were. We were really trying to go in order, and i feel like that was throwing me off a little bit too. So I was trying to stay focused and composed, and then if I actually got really hyped up about something, ah hit my microphone. So maybe that'll happen today. Who knows?
00:02:17
Speaker
Hopefully though. Yeah, we could just be the podcast that's known for ah damaging our equipment in the middle of recording. That's probably what we will be known as.
00:02:28
Speaker
It'll say that in our description. Exactly. That and the fact that Mercedes cannot talk and she slurs her words every single episode. ah dude, we both do.
00:02:40
Speaker
we're We're getting together. We'll just tell them we were like drunk while we're recording or something. I mean, the thing is, though, when you talk, you at least have a very extensive vocabulary, I would say. Me, I talk like a 12-year-old, less than that, younger than that, I mean. So even a lot of times when you're talking, I'm just thinking, wow, I never learned that in school or in a book.
00:03:08
Speaker
and need to I need to read more. ah If it makes you feel... I didn't like really start working on my vocabulary until I was an adult. I was terrible at vocabulary ah when I was in school. I was also in like reading ah but like special reading classes. They didn't realize that I was dyslexic. They thought I was just a broken kid.
00:03:32
Speaker
They were like, we don't know what to do with them, ma'am. is Your kid's broken. Damn. but i am Yeah, and I was really bad at reading in class and really bad at public speaking. And I just worked on and worked on it because I wanted to just get better at it. And I still get the jitters. I still get really self-conscious. Like if people point out how low or like quiet I am, it really it makes me like go lean more in that direction just because I get like insecure. But I had to like You know, really work on it.
00:04:05
Speaker
It wasn't something... The schools don't teach you how to be confident or really, like... They really don't....how to retain this shit. And if people have anything to say about our voices or the way we speak, ah you can go shove it.
00:04:19
Speaker
I don't want to hear it. Or rate us five stars. Yeah. If you rate us five stars, then you can have an opinion on our voices. Yes, rate us five
Diving into the Chucky Series
00:04:30
Speaker
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00:04:32
Speaker
Yeah, otherwise, get out of here. We don't want it. Anyway, today, guys, you know, lately we've been talking about the Chucky movies.
00:04:43
Speaker
We're finally here at the end of our main storyline, Chucky movies. It's a big day for us. Next week, we still have, you know, probably a stinker, but, you know, we' we'll make the most of it, but this, it's kind of exciting. It's the end of like the Chucky that Don Mancini is like involved in at least like cinematically. I don't know if I said it out loud, but Cult of Chucky is the movie we're going to be talking about.
00:05:10
Speaker
Spoilers ahead for this movie. If you haven't seen it. ah you should probably check it out you might as well if you're here right like you come this far might as well watch this one it's on netflix i had no idea i think it might have been a direct to netflix release i'm not too sure it's been on there forever though yeah i think it i think curse and um cult were both uh direct to video I didn't know that until like yesterday, but I've been watching them from this Blu-ray box set I got, the 7-movie collection. I was thinking about buying some of them on 4K individually, but they're too expensive.
00:05:50
Speaker
The box set was like $35 Walmart, walmart but Putting in the actual Blu-ray has been so nice. The last two, Cursing Cult, have trailers mostly for like Danny Trejo movies, but they're all like movies I'd never heard of.
00:06:05
Speaker
the like Just like really obscure universal movies. so It's been pretty cool seeing the extra features. It really takes me back. I haven't watched a Blu-ray in years, maybe. I can remember the last Blu-ray watched. It was Near Dark.
00:06:21
Speaker
and I don't know if you've seen that one, but I have not. It's ah been really nice having the physical copies of these movies. Guys, if you are into physical media, it's worth buying the ah the box set for these.
First Impressions of 'Cult of Chucky'
00:06:35
Speaker
Mercedes, you ah do you have any opinions on Cult of Chucky going into this? Did you have any built-up feelings? I feel like you and I had talked maybe more so off-mic about this movie.
00:06:48
Speaker
Um, yeah, so with this movie, I haven't or I hadn't watched it ever since I it first came out in 2017. So it I was only remembering certain scenes and just the fact that i wasn't really big on this movie.
00:07:09
Speaker
There were some scenes that I did like one in particular. But after that, I didn't really care for the movie or cared to rewatch it. So this time around, um' not going to lie, I was dreading putting the movie on.
00:07:24
Speaker
But... You know, I had a good time with it for the most part. I like the fact that, you know, we got a little bit of Andy again. um that was my the main part that not the main part, but one of my favorite parts at the end of Curse of Chucky, just bringing Andy back in. I love when they do like full circle things.
00:07:47
Speaker
stories in films just bringing back good characters not the crappy ones so the fact that he was even just in the intro I was thinking okay we're gonna be going into a good movie but it had some some rocky points so I'm kind of half and half with this film Is my turn?
00:08:09
Speaker
Can I talk? Yes. Yes. Cool. um ah That was very well stated. I echo, i think, everything that you said. This movie, it's... I think, like, if you took it as a standalone movie, i mean, it works.
00:08:27
Speaker
It may be, like, seen as kind of dull a little bit, but... conceptually it just it it works the insane asylum thing one location type of horror movie i usually don't love like the movie that i thought of uh was john carpenter's the ward uh the last movie that he did i forgot what year that came out maybe like 2007 starring amber heard i think it was but uh Yeah, I don't really care for the insane asylum thing, but this movie may be... i'm and Maybe it's just because of this Chucky journey we've been on, but I was more favorable towards this one. But it it has a lot of ah dull moments, I guess. But ah as a Chucky movie, as a continuation to Curse, I...
00:09:19
Speaker
I thought it was pretty satisfying. It wasn't better. it didn't up the ante in any kind of special way for me outside of everything it did with Andy.
00:09:30
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i fucking love Andy in this one, but this one works as a follow-up to to Curse. Yeah. um It does go hand-in-hand.
00:09:45
Speaker
I still want to say for the most part it does, but can we just jump fully into the movie now? Yeah, let's just dive into it. We can hop right into it. ah Where did you want to start with it? Did you have any place in mind?
00:09:58
Speaker
Actually, I want to start at the beginning with Andy because his little date that he went on royally pissed me off. um you know They show Andy he's on a date. He's trying his best to you know woo his date that's there.
00:10:14
Speaker
and You can clearly see that you know she's uncomfortable. She's saying that she's basically... anti-gun and he goes on to saying a little bit about himself but he knows that she did a little research quote unquote on him ah quote unquote and she's just asking him you know why didn't you tell me about it so he replies whatever he replied you know that's not something i just up and say or i didn't want to scare you away or whatever but then when he does talk about it a little bit her face just drops and then she's like you know what this is too much i can't handle this then why the fuck did you go on the date in the first place with andy barkley after one you should have already know his name
00:11:03
Speaker
And then also after you did your own research on him and then have the fucking nerve to say, this is too much. You don't stand up, Annie Barkley. I was so mad about that.
00:11:14
Speaker
Yeah, that date did kind of go south of pretty like abruptly. um Yes. but What does he say that really like sets her off?
00:11:24
Speaker
Do you remember what it was? I don't remember word for
Analyzing Andy's Character
00:11:29
Speaker
word. um i think he was just talking about, you know, what Chucky did, like all the murders he did His teacher getting murdered, his case manager getting murdered.
00:11:39
Speaker
Yeah, all of them getting murdered. He lets his like, quote unquote, like crazy come out a little bit in front of her. But this girl probably read all of that, or at least should have if she was doing all this research on him prior to a date. like i Don't get me wrong, if you're gonna go on a date with someone and you know you know that they're on the internet, even if they're not, you can do a background check on them, do all this other shit ah just to make sure you're gonna be safe.
00:12:08
Speaker
I completely support that. But she knew ahead of time who this man was and still agreed to go on that date. Fuck you. You do not do that to Andy Barkley.
00:12:20
Speaker
No. No, I totally agree. And honestly, like if you know what but who he is and his history, you should, like yeah if you're not into it initially, you should just bail.
00:12:34
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and Or just be someone who's like ah fan almost. Just be like, oh, you're that Andy kid. like what like I love right you You could be creepy.
00:12:46
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It's like the opposite of idolizing like serial killers, you know? Exactly. So i don't know. I'd be fascinated. Like, oh, my God, you're the one with the killer doll.
00:12:57
Speaker
Can I have your autograph? or Can you sign my purse or something? But no, she that was such a crappy date. I felt so bad for him. One thing i I did like about ah that intro is the very first shot reminds me of the child's play poster. I don't know if you clocked that, and I don't know if it was intentional or if my mind was just doing it on its own.
00:13:23
Speaker
Now that I think of it, it could have been intentional. Yeah, because it was just like a shot of the fucking um exterior of the restaurant. And it looked like a nice restaurant.
00:13:34
Speaker
Honestly, if you're going to give him a hard time and like get on his case about the whole doll murder thing, why are you letting him take you out to this nice restaurant?
00:13:45
Speaker
Like, what the fuck? You're on like the 27th floor or something of this restaurant. I've never been to a restaurant on like the third floor before. Right?
00:13:56
Speaker
Where the fuck were they? What does Andy do for a living now? Because he was willing to take her to this nice-ass restaurant. And then you go to his house, which is pretty secluded out in the woods.
00:14:11
Speaker
It's like a cabin. And then you see all of his firearms on display, which I actually thought was pretty cool. Yeah, he he just looks... Comfortable, very well off for a who grew up in his situation. so i don't know. It just that kept coming to mind. What does Andy do for a living? Because then once you see what he starts doing in that scene, does he really have a lot of time on his hands to do all that?
00:14:40
Speaker
Do you think he's still in some type of like ah military forces? Do you think he joined the military? I would like an Andy miniseries. Just a mundane like sitcom in the life of Andy from like Child's Play 3 up until... Or we could go Child's Play 2 up until this moment.
00:15:01
Speaker
you know And just like... Watching him like try to maintain a normal life and keep it together and slowly prepare. um Did you mention his cabin? i didn't like quite clock it.
00:15:16
Speaker
Yeah, I mentioned it. um that That's where he's living secluded. Yeah, that's a gripe I have. What the fuck happened to the apartment, Andy? Why do you have an apartment in whatever fucking city?
00:15:27
Speaker
Like, is that like your, like, P.O. box, basically? it's Right. You just hit get your mail delivered to some apartment? I mean, could make sense. I don't know. Usually people who live in an apartment have mail delivered to houses, not the other way around.
00:15:43
Speaker
He has to be in the military or or had been in the military to, you know, pay for these fancy ass restaurants. Restaurants. And then you homes or places that he can call home.
00:15:58
Speaker
so Yeah, and then you see him, you know, he even has his, um ah what is it, his Kent um Academy sweatshirt.
00:16:09
Speaker
He has it framed. So he had to have been in the military. That probably did stick with him just so he can have some type of family unit to belong to.
00:16:21
Speaker
But he removes that image, that that frame, and then you see a safe, and then he pulls out fucking Chucky's head.
00:16:33
Speaker
What did you think of that scene? ah dude, I almost... I almost said something inappropriate right there. No, I loved it. I was all about it. It was it was my jam. I was just like, fuck yeah, Chucky on a head. like We're going to do some Chucky Hannibal Lecter type of shit where you're just going to be like not giving Andy advice, but like tormenting Andy.
00:16:58
Speaker
and i kind I appreciated that. I thought that was cool. like yeah We still have the canonical Chuckster. hanging around. He's just a burnt up head, right? Yeah, because that is the Chucky that we've been following from like Child's Play 3 to like being rebuilt by Tiffany, right?
00:17:19
Speaker
Mm hmm. I believe so. I thought it was a cool little dynamic that they had going on You know, he just places him on his table and he sits there.
00:17:31
Speaker
He starts smoking um and just the little conversation that they're having. Even with ah Andy just letting Chucky take a hit, one, that was funny because he tried to bite his hand when he did and just scare him.
00:17:47
Speaker
But you know they have their little conversation, so you could clearly see. and He's like, he want to play a game. Yeah, and that's just something they do quite frequently. And then Andy starts torching his ass, well, his head, um literally. And ah that was gross. i'm not I don't like seeing why half his face gone.
00:18:09
Speaker
So that was disturbing. But it was so cool just to see them having like a full on conversation. I really enjoyed that callback to the the first child's play, the you want to play a game type of thing. But to an extent, I'm just like, to just kill Chucky.
00:18:26
Speaker
You know, why you got him hanging around? And not to, I mean, did you want to take this in order? Can I jump ah to the end real quick? No, you could jump to the end. Not to like, and spoilers for people who haven't seen it.
00:18:41
Speaker
ah I wonder what Kyle's going to be doing with Chucky. Like, not to really, like, get ahead to what may or may not be happening in the TV show, but...
00:18:52
Speaker
Kyle shows up at the end and she's like, ah i don't remember what she says. She's like, Andy sent me here to fuck with you or something. And you get the idea that she's just going to take over torturing him now. They don't really have much of a purpose for him.
00:19:07
Speaker
I thought it was cool that they brought her back in. Yeah, even with Andy just, you know, torturing him, probably having all these you know conversations with him things that he wished he could say to him or just him torturing him because of everything that chucky has done to his life to his family to people that he knows it's a little old now and then um even like just uh to kind of piggyback off of that with another character tiffany they show her you know
00:19:43
Speaker
cutting the neck of another person in here with the nail file. Okay, you've done that so many times already. Can you can you move on? You even bitch to Chucky in um Bride of Chucky. You know, he's always stabbing people, but she's always repeating how she kills someone using the same method. She does mention that um later, but still, that was was a little boring too. We need new kills.
00:20:11
Speaker
Yeah, you really pointed out, I guess, my biggest gripe with this movie is this movie is really the we're going to pay homage to everything that came
Critique of Movie's Homages
00:20:20
Speaker
before. And so it's a cool you're allowed to do that.
00:20:23
Speaker
If you're doing that, then tell me a story that's like going to wrap this up in some way. And honestly, I feel like this one ends the most open, maybe aside from the last movie.
00:20:36
Speaker
Well, no, the last movie, Andy shooting Chucky in the face, did feel like it was pretty definite. um They could have ended it there, but this one felt like it was just, like, ah maybe they had a sequel in mind and they just couldn't do it and they took it straight to TV. I heard Don Mancini working on the Hannibal Lecter TV show is why they went straight to TV and is also why there's a Hannibal Lecter getting canceled reference in their Mancini. Oh, okay.
00:21:06
Speaker
Yeah, he worked on the show, and that's after, I guess, working on the show, he, and like, this is just what I've heard from some YouTubers, so it could be, like, completely full of shit. yeah But he was saying, I wish I could credit the dude, I'm sorry, but he was saying ah that Don Mancini, after his experience on Hannibal Lecter, he was like, you know, chuck maybe this is a good route to take Chucky's TV, but, um,
00:21:32
Speaker
God, I hate how this is the homage movie and it just leaves you hanging more than like most of these other movies have done. Yeah, like they they introduced Nika in Curse of Chucky.
00:21:45
Speaker
We all fell in love with Fiona Doris following your hurt in here. I don't know. the The characters they have in here, I'm not a big fan of them either. I kind of found one amusing, that guy Malcolm, the the ginger guy, um who was actually the the cop in the previous film.
00:22:06
Speaker
He was? Yeah. um He was the cop at the end who ah shows up at the house and- And gets his throat slit? Yeah, that was him.
00:22:18
Speaker
And he's alive in this one? He's not playing the same actor the or same character? It's just the same actor? Yeah, he's playing someone different, but it's the same actor. And apparently... um He has multiple personality disorder, too. That's his deal or something?
00:22:32
Speaker
Yeah, and i just I found him amusing because you know when they introduce his character, you think he's pretty you know normal. he He's holding a legit conversation with Nika...
00:22:47
Speaker
They have their their little hookup scene. And she doesn't find out until after the fact that, yeah, he has you know there' multiple personality disorder going on.
00:23:00
Speaker
I thought that was a cool little spin on that. So um he was the only one that I actually found memorable in here.
00:23:11
Speaker
Everyone else, they were either annoying or just... you know, a boring side character. see it's weird. I felt the opposite. I was so over Malcolm and his horse shit, like immediately. Oh man.
00:23:27
Speaker
Yeah, I like, and then when he like fakes to be possessed by Chucky, I don't know if like he was intentionally faking or like what the deal was, but was like, God, just kill this guy.
00:23:38
Speaker
But I liked um Claire and I forgot the girl who had Chucky is like a baby doll. I actually felt like those two had more going on and more to do than they gave Nika to really do in this movie.
00:23:54
Speaker
They don't really like use Nika in interesting ways. yeah um the The character who had Chucky as a baby, i I think her name was Madeline.
00:24:07
Speaker
That wacko. She fucking tries to smother Chucky, and I was like, damn, she definitely killed her baby. feel That was disturbing to watch. ah Yeah, I get your point. Everyone else, they kind of had a ah bigger storyline than Nika, um or at least more to do in this film than her. You know, Nika's just...
00:24:30
Speaker
kind of playing on the sides, just, you know, trying to warn everyone that Chucky's there. um And even no her her scenes with ah the doctor, psychiatrist, whatever he is, um you find out that, you know, he's been hypnotizing her and then basically um having his way with her and taking advantage of her. That...
00:24:56
Speaker
Wow, that that was the one scene that I enjoyed just because Chucky just comes out of nowhere, like ah hits him on the head with a glass and says, you know, um just that he's shocked by what this guy's doing. Like, wow, this guy's sick.
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah, it seemed like it was just in there for the Chucky joke. Because otherwise, I found it just unnecessary. I was like, why are we doing this like sexual assault in a mental institute? This totally like would be... It just feels like it's unpleasant for no reason. It it doesn't feel like it's the movie for that.
00:25:39
Speaker
I do like Chucky undermining it, though. Like, him just being like, wow, this guy's sick. I could, what the, I should be taking notes. I was just like, okay, that's cute.
00:25:51
Speaker
I'll give you that. But i didn't need, I don't like sexual assault in movies if it's like, if it doesn't have to do with, like, the story and character and character development. If it's like just something that happens, I really am just like, well, get it out of the movie then. It doesn't but belong in here.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah, I could see where you're coming from.
Controversial Scenes and Impact
00:26:14
Speaker
This one, i i was able to you know watch it um do just because he obviously, the whole act is wrong, but the way they have them it have them play it out It's nothing too overboard to where I felt like I needed to turn away or skip the scene. Yes, he does kiss her.
00:26:38
Speaker
And then he's apparently into, you know, her feet. And that part alone grossed me out because I hate feet. um But I could at least watch this compared to, you know, other rape scenes in other movies. Those, that's a different story. um But this, I, yeah, it didn't bother me as much being in the film.
00:27:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty tame. um Just it being in the film, it really like ah put a sour taste in my mouth for that little bit that it was there.
00:27:13
Speaker
But like um going back to where we talked about in ah Bride of Chucky, the like Don't Breathe Turkey Baster, it doesn't really go to that level. And the Turkey Baster in Bride of Chucky...
00:27:26
Speaker
I find that more upsetting. like Thinking back on it, I'm like, guys, like ah just the implications behind that are super gross and really like creepy and yeah upsetting. and you know It does like have a narrative purpose, and the horror behind what they're doing may be a part of that. and so i will give that a little bit more like leeway, but that feels like they could have just done a voodoo chant, and it's like, okay, you're pregnant with Chucky's baby.
00:27:56
Speaker
that That scene, the that scene i did not care for. And the one scene in here that actually really disgusted me was when Madeline was, um you know, tending to Chucky, tending to her baby. And then she starts breastfeeding with Chucky. And she's putting him in the bed. And you could see that she is bleeding.
00:28:22
Speaker
Oh my God, I cringed bad at that. That to me was just as bad as the turkey baster. ill The bleeding breastfeeding? Yes.
00:28:33
Speaker
Just that whole That's not how it's supposed to be done? That's not how it's done? No, not at all. oh I was like taking notes because I was just like, oh, I didn't know that you're supposed to bleed into the baby.
00:28:46
Speaker
Yes, that's how the vampires do it. Not the voodoo way, the vampire way. vampire babies bite the nipple when they latch they uh that's upsetting i don't even want to think about that why did you take it there mercedes would you have bring up bloody breastfeeding because we we've already been there we had you brought up the the turkey baster we didn't have to go back into the past so this is your fault yeah I did want to compare to the Jennifer Tilly scene. but yeah so that's That's Madeline. she
00:29:23
Speaker
I know she dies. i can't really remember her death. What's she got ah um going on? When they buried her baby version of Chucky, he comes back and then...
00:29:39
Speaker
They have a little embrace. yeah and I didn't know what the hell he was doing at first because you know he has his hand on her lip and she looks like she's kissing it, but then he's just you know sticking his hand all the way in her mouth. and Did he remove her tongue or remove her tonsils to put his arm in there to kill her that way or know i have no idea what happens because they cut away as it looks like you're about to see i thought he was going in there to like rip her tongue all the way out but yeah you just see him like shove his hand in there and it cuts away and then next time when they walk in it's just his hand is in the opposite way like the hand part that was reaching in is now sticking out so you're almost just like
00:30:34
Speaker
What the fuck did he do to this woman? Like, it's probably the most upsetting death in the movie, if not the whole series.
00:30:45
Speaker
It really, like, ah fucked with me. I gotta give Don Mancini credit for that one. um That was a horrific fucking kill. yeah Out of all of the kills in here, that one was the most disturbing. The one that actually made me feel bad, not really feel bad, but I was just like, damn, this guy had it rough, was um the nurse Carlos when all three of the Chucky's just gang up on him, stab him, cut him open. I was like, what did he do?
00:31:23
Speaker
Right. He did nothing wrong to anybody. I was like, is this just because he's gay? like is Tucky just that hateful?
00:31:34
Speaker
Like, oh, my God. They needed to make it equal, apparently. and The worst thing he did was he's like, hey, don't think I'm a fan or anything, lady. And it's like, yeah, fuck this lady. Everyone thinks she murdered her family. She sucks.
00:31:48
Speaker
Like, in the public eye. Yeah, yeah. His his death, of man, I felt so bad for him. But um yeah, the the kills in here, aside from those two, the they weren't the greatest. um Also...
00:32:05
Speaker
What I found really disappointing too was they kill off Alice's character. um you You kind of assume that you know she dies at the end of Curse, like like ah me and you were talking about before, but then they just have ah Tiffany come in saying, yes, I'm her guardian, but oh yeah, she's dead.
00:32:26
Speaker
and You'd never get like closure on that. They brought her in, but then in curse, but then they just, you know they I don't know. I didn't like her ending on that.
00:32:38
Speaker
You get a glimpse of her in a dream sequence with a big Chucky with a Charles Lee Ray actually in the knife. I thought that was a pretty cool dream sequence. I don't know about you.
00:32:50
Speaker
Yeah. i I love the fact that you see a Brad Dourif's eyes and his knife. I thought that was a nice touch. Yeah, it was pretty sweet. I dug it. But then Chucky, I think, goes on a monologue where he says that he possessed Alice's body, and he was like, you know, you can do a lot as a human, but the thing that human bodies get is damaged or something like that. So the implication is he just fucked up Alice's body so bad throughout like all of his shenanigans and just had to bail.
00:33:24
Speaker
And it's like, God, that's fucking terrible. Yeah, i I just wish that they showed something of that. Like, no, I wasn't a big fan of her character, but, um and I love the fact that they brought the the same actress to ah repla yeah reprise her role in that dream sequence.
00:33:48
Speaker
um But I wish we got to see, the you know, what Chucky was saying. they They could have done a little flashback of that. Yeah. I don't know, I would have enjoyed that more if they did it that way.
00:34:00
Speaker
um So I found that you know very disappointing. Kind of wish we we had a little bit of her. And honestly, I wish we had a lot more of Andy in here than what we got.
00:34:15
Speaker
Yeah, if you're really going to sideline Nika and like not give her much to do at least like make Andy more of a presence. um Make Andy the focus, maybe.
00:34:27
Speaker
yeah they They could have followed him a little bit more. They did kind of touch back on the first one where they're showing Andy again in his cabin, but he's eating his his perfectly looking bowl of cereal in here. i know you like that part. no it was trashed.
00:34:46
Speaker
That was an overflowing bowl. He's learned nothing. He's learned nothing. He's got guns, but still a terrible just and living space. It looked like, what's that cereal? It did look very clean, actually. It looked like Trix, or maybe he got over his fear and was eating the good guy cereal again. Who knows?
00:35:08
Speaker
it Just to toughen himself up, he's like, I need to self-torture in order ah to be strong. Probably. he seems like he's got it together.
00:35:20
Speaker
He does. He doesn't seem super traumatized. Things don't always trigger him, or they don't seem to trigger him at all. But you know when he brings out the little Chucky head and tortures him, he just lets out all of his frustration. And I think that probably is the reason why he seems like he has it all together, because he has some type of an outlet knowing that I got the ah fucker that ruined my life. I got him. He's in my home.
00:35:48
Speaker
He's at my disposal. So that could be why. But i wish we would have gotten more. Yeah, I agree. He's probably had years of therapy too. Like, man, I wish I could be there for the breakthrough where he was like crying and whatever. Like, ah he's probably got a therapist that like believes him and is like, you know,
00:36:13
Speaker
Or like, you know, really like ah just let him be a safe space and let him have a breakthrough. i don't know. I hope Andy, I hope that for Andy, especially after how bad child's play three was. i hope he found a good therapist.
00:36:28
Speaker
I'm pretty sure he did. Even at the end too, when he's trying to, um are he's headed towards the asylum, he he punches the guard, which I thought was lazy writing, and he they they lock him up, and then he's just waiting for all the events in the asylum to take place so that Chucky can go to him and he can kill this doll too,
00:36:56
Speaker
but It was stupid. Andy shoots Chucky excessively. He did not need to shoot him that many times. But even when he does, this little shit still comes back to life.
00:37:10
Speaker
But then, yeah at the end, the whole thing was ah for Chucky to transfer his soul into Nika, which he does. And then they have their little...
00:37:22
Speaker
you know, verbal altercation. And then she just locks him in there, locks Andy in the room. That way it looks like he was the one that killed everyone there. And that's his ending in here. i don't like that. Andy did not deserve that.
00:37:37
Speaker
Yeah, they really lifted the ending of Ex Machina. Spoilers for Ex Machina if you haven't seen it. ah Sorry. um Yeah, they really lifted the Ex Machina ending with that one.
00:37:49
Speaker
What do you think about Andy's plan? ah Yeah, ah for some reason I forgot his name. No, it's okay. i Because I keep almost calling him Alex because of his actual name. Right.
00:38:03
Speaker
What do you think of Andy's plan, though? Like, It's so convoluted for like very little. yeah Ultimately, he's just sneaking in a handgun into this insane asylum, but through Chucky doll that he takes the time to like cut his hair so he can identify the difference. and He knows that this one is going to be possessed. I don't know if like Charles like told him his plan when he was like just to head back at home.
00:38:32
Speaker
But fucking he brings his own Chucky doll there. And it just counts on that one being the one to go after Andy. And it was like... so funny i think the deciding process they're like i get to kill him look at me i get to kill him look at me and then the other one's like hey guys look at me and like points to the haircut and they're like yeah you go kill him you added the worst and like yeah that's kind of funny but like andy you couldn't have known that that was gonna happen that he was gonna be the one to go after you and like
00:39:06
Speaker
What if you just couldn't get to him in time or get to that gun in time? That was like a pretty terrible plan. They also just threw him in like fully clothed. So he could have probably just had a gun in his pants or his like yeah jacket pocket.
00:39:21
Speaker
Yeah, with the way he was just, Andy was just, on you know, just basically filling up Chucky, essentially. was just watching that scene thinking, what the hell is he doing? Is he trying to tickle him?
00:39:35
Speaker
um i really thought that's what what was going on. And then I finally start hearing all the gross sounds as ah Andy's shoving his hand, tearing into Chucky's body, into his clothes, essentially, into his body to get this damn gun out. It's really aggressive.
00:39:52
Speaker
Yeah. So it's like this guy had to have some sharp-ass nails to do that. But um yeah, that that whole plan was... kind of high hoping in a way because if all these Chucky dolls are, you know, coming to life, it wasn't a guarantee that the Chucky that he cut all his hair off was going to be the one to enter into his room or to go find him.
00:40:19
Speaker
You know, he was assuming it and yes, it did happen, but it wasn't a guarantee. So I don't know. I think anything else could have happened, but...
Evaluating the Ending and Closure
00:40:30
Speaker
That was such a weird-ass plan.
00:40:33
Speaker
It's not a guarantee that he's ever going to come in contact with that doll when he enters inside of there. Both other dolls could get to him first. Security could get to him first. like So much could happen.
00:40:47
Speaker
It's such a weird plan. Again, for so little. Just a gun with like... I mean, do you have anything to reload it with? Is it just the one clip or whatever? like Right. Yeah.
00:41:01
Speaker
It's ridiculous, Andy. All these years and this is what you come up with? like You're no brother better than the fucking breakfast kid we saw back in 1988.
00:41:12
Speaker
nineteen eighty eight Leave him alone. He was adorable in there and he is trying his best. but no he He makes me sick.
00:41:24
Speaker
he He could have packed some extra magazines in there just to make sure he was prepared. i mean On the way over, he had um when he was ah in his truck driving and on the phone with Jennifer Tilly, he does look in his passenger seat and you see this ah bag of firearms that he had. so he Could have had a few extras, you know, and he could have at least loaded a little more in this Chucky doll.
00:41:51
Speaker
So that was a half-assed plan that he had, honestly. Yeah, figure yeah but figure out how to break in through the exterior. Like, you figure out how to come in through the underground, maybe.
00:42:04
Speaker
it's ah It's so weird. I kind of appreciate it for how dumb it is, though. um Only horror movies can get away with this, and only the seventh entry of a horror movie that you ah horror franchise you've grown to like can get away with stuff like this.
00:42:21
Speaker
You gotta be kind of forgiving. You do. um I remember when this movie came out, um I didn't get to watch it the day of, but I was working at this one coffee shop um and there was a shift lead there who was into horror films too.
00:42:41
Speaker
He watched it and was asking me how I felt about it and I didn't get a chance to watch it, but once i did, we just kept like saying a few scenes from it, but he was so hyped about this movie. He seemed to really, really like this movie.
00:42:58
Speaker
It's got its fans. It does, right? I didn't want to bring down you know his you know hype and enthusiasm for it, but i was just taken back thinking, were we watching the same movie? Because the way you feel about this movie is how I feel about Curse of Chucky.
00:43:18
Speaker
um I don't know. i I think that one delivered so much more to us compared to this one. Did this guy not like a Curse of Chucky?
00:43:29
Speaker
No, he did, but he also loved this one too. So I think he was just, you know, a diehard Chucky fan to where he was at a point where none of the movies disappointed him.
00:43:41
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with you. Curse um delivers way more. i i We're going to be ranking the ah movies next week, but again, Curse is really... I've been thinking about where that one should go, and it's been giving me kind of a pain.
00:43:59
Speaker
um I feel like our lists are going to be pretty close to identical, though, if not like have slight differences. Yeah. I do want to ah talk about the the Nika scene where we leave her at.
00:44:17
Speaker
How did you feel about her fate and what happens with her? Because we just lose her completely. We're done with Fiona Dorff, it seems like, at least like playing Nika. Let me hear your thoughts on it first because there is something that I do want to say that um about Nika's character with ah that involves the TV series. So I do want to get into that. But what did you think of that first? I want to hear your thoughts on that.
00:44:44
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'm pretty mixed on it. I thought it was interesting that they would do that to our lead, but ah end your movie if you're going to do something like that. The movie doesn't like really end. It's just kind of like Chucky wins. He gets Nika's body and can like somehow walk.
00:45:06
Speaker
I don't know if like that they know how paralysis works but changing personalities doesn't give you the ability to walk um the v dog like yeah exactly exactly you got me there because i was gonna i know dolls don't have the ability to walk but for some reason it just feels different um for someone who's paralyzed Yeah, you would think her her legs are going to be so stiff or they might crack or just something, but I guess we just blame it on voodoo again.
00:45:37
Speaker
Yeah, no, she she stands up and ah runs like a full mile before she gets up and meets up with ah Jennifer Tilly, good old JT. Yeah, what did you think about ah the way they wrapped that up, though, them leaving and stuff like that? I've given you my thoughts. I didn't really like how it doesn't wrap up. When you initially saw it, before knowing there was going to be a TV show, how did you feel about it?
00:46:03
Speaker
I was a little disturbed by it only because I'm sitting there thinking, wow, Fiona Dorough making out with Jennifer Tilly.
00:46:14
Speaker
And I know damn well her dad, Brad Dorough, is on set watching that. so kind of loved it. I liked that for both of them. ah They both got to kiss an attractive lady.
00:46:27
Speaker
I guess. Yeah. Not to cut you off. I did want to say something I forgot. What's up? I loved that it was Fiona Dorff playing her father's character, even if it was just for a little bit. I appreciated that. I just wish they did something with it. I wish they had an actual ending to the movie.
00:46:49
Speaker
Yeah, even um I was watching ah Living with Chucky today, and Tiffany was saying that she didn't, or Jennifer Tilly was saying she didn't get to work with Brad a lot.
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah, they had their little voiceovers and everything, but she never really got to work one-on-one with him in person. But the fact that Fiona was... um playing the ah role of Chucky when she said Jennifer Tilly said that when ah Fiona was walking out like walking to the car she was staring at her and thinking wow you know that's Brad that that's literally Brad Dourif so I thought that was so cool they could not have had that any other way having having any other person ah play Nika's character um but yeah I thought that was
00:47:43
Speaker
It was so strange to me. Like, wow, they're, you know, essentially you Chucky and Tiffany back together, but it's, you know, a woman making out with another woman. So I don't know. i I found it funny, but also disturbing at the same time. And them just leaving. And then you see the Tiffany doll in the back too You're thinking, okay, well, the cult is getting bigger because we have all these dolls of Chucky, but now we have Tiffany and her own in Jennifer Tilly's body but then you have Tiffany and the doll too so their ending for this movie
00:48:24
Speaker
I was not satisfied with the ending of the movie in general. um and Just Andy's fate sucked. Them... ah ah i keep I keep going back with their real names and then their movie names.
00:48:37
Speaker
um Tiffany and Chucky, them just driving off in the middle of the night. Not happy with that. It was just such a crappy cliffhanger that you know i wasn't happy about. I love the fact that they brought Kyle back, but um yeah, with...
00:48:53
Speaker
With a Tiffany and Chucky and Nika's character, they just, they left me hanging and i was so mad about that. there's no way they could have lived up to the fucking wallop that the end of curse of Chucky gives you.
00:49:11
Speaker
And it kind of makes you just wish they didn't even attempt to do it, that they just had a normal ending. How all these movies usually have like some form of like an ending.
00:49:23
Speaker
ah it Yeah. It was just really weird to leave this one hanging. I got to say, i don't know if I mentioned it earlier, but ah I really see the Brad Dourif resemblance when Fiona does her laugh, especially when she is actually Charles Lee Ray. They do a lot of Charles Lee Ray talk in this movie, too.
00:49:46
Speaker
They do actually, um which surprised me. But yeah, they're um their laughs are very similar. Even in the Living with Chucky documentary, ah Fiona Dorff laughs at one point and I was like, oh, wow, you know, that's that's her actual laugh. It wasn't like her kind of forcing it um to sound similar to her dad's in the movie. She actually does have a similar laugh to him, which I thought was awesome.
00:50:14
Speaker
One death I want to shout out in this movie that I did quite enjoy, it was a callback to Bride of Chucky, but I feel like they did it better in this one, was ah Claire's death when Chucky has the um oxygen. What does he say? ah i forgot what's written on it, but he like reads what's on the canister, and then he bangs it and shoots it at some glass, and this glass falls...
00:50:39
Speaker
And it decapitates Claire. I didn't love the decapitation. ah kind of wish that they just stabbed through her. i think visually it would have been a bit more cooler than decapitation. But i ah dug that character and, you know, it hurt to see her go, but at least she went out in a spectacular fashion.
00:51:00
Speaker
i did not like her character at all. You didn't like it? You didn't find her charming? How much she yelled and complained? No, she was so fucking annoying. The one that I did like was the one that um she ah that Claire said she took care of Angela, the one who would just walk up to everyone and say or ask everyone, oh, can you see me? you know Don't be afraid of me. I don't know why. i love her. yeah.
00:51:28
Speaker
And Chucky meets her in the hallway and is like, I'm a toy from the 80s that's come to life. And blibbity blop. And she's like, I'm crazy.
00:51:39
Speaker
I'm like on crazy pills. And then I don't remember what happens to her. Does she die? She does die. um Chucky is trying to go kill ah Nika, and you see that Nika tried to kill herself um when she found out that Alice was dead.
00:51:57
Speaker
And he fucking stitched her hand back up ah or her wrist back up together. um But he goes to Angela and kills her in the same fashion that Nika tried to kill herself.
00:52:09
Speaker
So... Yeah. And writes Chucky did it in blood. Yeah. That part was funny. To try and frame Nika. I was like, damn, Chucky, you sly son of a bitch. It's going to look like Nika did this.
00:52:22
Speaker
There's barely any patients at this fucking hospital. What's the deal? Who's funding this hospital for this big of a place for there to be like five people? um One doctor going unchecked fucking sexually assaulting the patients. It's crazy.
00:52:40
Speaker
I know there's no other doctor there except them. It's him and then the two nurses. That's it.
Spoilers and TV Series Insights
00:52:46
Speaker
But you have this big ass facility. ah Makes no sense at all. um But I did want to get into the spoiler of um what ah of ah Nika's character. My God, I can't talk still in the series.
00:53:01
Speaker
Are you going to watch the series? Because if I say this, it's going to throw a big part or spoil a huge part for you. If things shape up for the pod, I would like to watch it for the pod, but there's an off chance that I will watch it on my own. But you can feel free to spoil it. There's a good chance I may forget. I'll try to like tune it out to you. I think the listeners would like to hear it.
00:53:26
Speaker
um Because yeah I don't know if they're going to check out the show. But guys, spoilers ahead for the Chucky TV show. It's on Shudder, right? It's a Shudder original. think it's sci-fi. Yeah, it's sci-fi. um But yeah, so major spoilers because you do um follow the story of ah Nika still being ah possessed by Chucky and she's with Jennifer Tilly.
00:53:53
Speaker
They do have a little relationship going on. But then ah Jennifer um or Tiffany She dismembers Nika, so you're left with her being a fucking nub, and I was so pissed off about that because once I saw that scene, you see the fucking pain in Nika's eyes whistling.
00:54:20
Speaker
what the fuck happened to me? like She basically had no legs to begin with because you know she couldn't feel her legs, but like now she has nothing and they just end an episode like that. I think that really fucking killed it for me.
00:54:37
Speaker
Not to mention the main characters in there fucking suck, but um that part really, really killed it for me to the point where I just stopped watching it. It was...
00:54:50
Speaker
Nika did not deserve that either. Justice for Andy and justice for Nika. Is Andy in the TV show? He is. Okay. And they're both played by the same actors?
00:55:03
Speaker
Yeah, they are. So, yes, Andy does get out of the ah asylum, but, you know, watching the film and seeing that his ending, not knowing that they're going to, you know, continue on with it in the series, that was tragic. And then while they're in the series, they they need more of Andy in there to give him, you know, a better role in there. um And then...
00:55:33
Speaker
You get a lot more of Nika, but the way they do her is so dirty. I ah was so disappointed in that show. You know, I might just end up watching the show as like a comfort watch kind of thing since I've already gotten so many so much Chucky.
00:55:52
Speaker
I'm at the end of his cinematic story at this point. Like, it would be probably a pretty easy show to throw on and watch since it's a continuation. And i already like feel like I have a pretty good understanding of this world.
00:56:05
Speaker
i I want to see more Glenda. you You promised me that there would be more Glenda. So, you know, she better look like she does in Seed of Chucky, though. I'm really happy with the choice they um they with the choice they go with for Glenn and Glenda's characters.
00:56:24
Speaker
um So, yeah, I think once they do show them that... ah you'll You'll be happy with it. But um I didn't watch anything past when they were in there. That could have been a little past ah when Nika was dismembered. But yeah, I don't i don't know. the The series, it does have some redeeming episodes.
00:56:46
Speaker
Some. The first season was pretty cool. But the second season, it just, you know, it started to die out really quick. So I don't know.
00:56:57
Speaker
Give it a chance. You might actually like it a lot. You tripped me out when you came out of left field and said that you loved Seed of Chucky. So I don't know. You might love this series. Who knows?
00:57:10
Speaker
Yeah, and dude, again, this is a pretty strong franchise. Child's Play 3 is the only bad one, in my opinion. and They're all like pretty good to great movies, I'd say.
00:57:24
Speaker
um One thing we didn't talk about that I want to hear your thoughts on is Chucky's look. What do you think of Chucky's look in this one? Oh man, if people could see the reaction Mercedes gave me. She pulled out a gun, much like Andy. She ripped a gun out of a Charles doll and held it up to her head and attempted to pull the trigger, but it jammed.
00:57:50
Speaker
Oh my God. Mercedes is still here to podcast with us, luckily. you have If you had the sigh button, you could press it like five times at this part. I hated it so much. Oh my God.
00:58:05
Speaker
So when you get the first reveal of Chucky in here he looks stupid. I actually like the way he looks in curse more than in here. And I didn't really, I wasn't the biggest fan of how his, you know,
00:58:21
Speaker
good guy look was in in Curse. um But in here, it just looks so stupid. And then none of them have the stitched up face except, you know, the the head that Andy has. But um yeah, all of them, they have the good guy look.
00:58:38
Speaker
His head looks smaller, or his face looks smaller in here. he He just looks fucking weird. they They don't redeem themselves at all in this film with the way Shucky looks. I was ah was let down.
00:58:54
Speaker
i What do you think? You probably loved it, didn't you? ah I thought the head of Chucky was the best of any of the Chucky's. um and There's something to the facial expressions of the short-haired Chucky when he was getting ripped apart. I really loved. I thought the animatronic work on his facial expressions were great.
00:59:14
Speaker
Aside from that, I think this is the worst look for Chucky that we've gotten so far. And I think even like the animatronic work, not to like criticize the puppeteers or any of the people who ah worked on it,
00:59:28
Speaker
I just think it it looks it looks awkward. it it doesn't look um as like grounded in reality as I'm used to. like There is a scene of Chucky's feet running in the the Claire moment when she dies. That's pretty normal ah looking. But when he's walking in the hallway and what was that one patient's name who he slits her wrist with?
00:59:53
Speaker
Angela. Angela. Yeah, Angela. When he's like walking in the hallway and she in Angela encounters him, his walking is so weird. i like It looks like maybe they just like had a bad day with the puppet that day or something when they were filming it.
01:00:11
Speaker
I'm not too sure. i mean, in terms of... You mentioned Redemption for the look that he has in Curse. I've really grown to like that look a lot. ah There's something about like his head shape that I really like. He's a different size.
01:00:27
Speaker
He's got like a ah sheen to him that he didn't have in in the previous movie. And I know like continuity-wise, it doesn't make sense why he would look more sleek. but there's something to his look that I really enjoyed. It's very very like cartoonish to me. there's some i don't know why. I'm probably an outlier on that, but I'll be the one to defend the curse of Chucky look.
01:00:53
Speaker
I'll be the the one person in the world to defend that look. So I at least like his look in Curse now compared to how he looks in this film.
01:01:08
Speaker
um And I think when i was watching Living with Chucky, they said that their budget was lower in this one. So they ended up shaving the puppeteers down to three.
01:01:23
Speaker
Three of them, I think. Was this the lowest budget movie? Because ah Curse at the time was the lowest budget movie. Curse cost like $5 million, dollars which is like $4 million less than Child's Play cost in 1988 money.
01:01:41
Speaker
I can't remember the if it was lower in this one, but they did make a point that um each film was getting shorter and shorter. um You said Cursehead was $5 million?
01:01:56
Speaker
yeah This one was also $5 million, so Okay. Yeah, that's like the Blumhouse model. They were probably just following that. Like, let's get it done in $5 million, have it one location. one location in the last movie really works.
01:02:13
Speaker
This one, I think it kind of works against it. The Insane Asylum, I mean, yeah, the... House, you know, serial killer thing has been done before a bunch. The insane asylum just feels so like less interesting, like the character tropes that come with the patients like one of them is loud and crazy, you know, one of them.
01:02:35
Speaker
is like talking to themselves. One of them treats Chucky as a baby. It just, it feels like just really odd stereotypes and cliches for like this type of horror movie.
01:02:49
Speaker
um I know I don't have a lot of comparison points right now, No, um I get it. But i think that if they were able to... I get the budget was low.
01:02:59
Speaker
If they did have a higher budget and they were able to at least go in different areas of the insane asylum, like maybe you see that they have a cemetery, but if they, I don't know, had basement scene, um like an underground tunnel scene, anything else...
01:03:21
Speaker
It could have made this movie a little stronger. Instead, we're reduced to a hallway and a cemetery, and that's pretty much it. So, I mean, everyone was still proud of the film, and they all talked about how they did their best, but, yeah and Curse was...
01:03:39
Speaker
Curse was a lot stronger just to be in that one setting and, you know, it had a charming aesthetic to it. This one, because of the fact that they're in an asylum, you would think that it would be, you know, um multiple settings in there. I don't know that that was a a failed attempt in this in this film.
01:03:59
Speaker
I don't think I got to talk about this on the last episode, but Don Mancini had mentioned that his sequel ideas after Curse were going to be either an insane asylum movie or Chucky on a Train.
Future of the Chucky Franchise
01:04:13
Speaker
And, you know, Chucky on a Train feels like it would have been harder to get Nika in there. I don't know if they do Chucky on a Train in the TV show, but I feel like he should have done fucking Chucky on a Train, done something like that.
01:04:26
Speaker
Whatever his vision was, i like that he keeps... He kept progressing, like pushing the story forward. Each movie was doing something new. This one feels like it's just doing a kind of lesser version of Curse. It's like ah continuation that's trying to give you the same punch at the end all the reveals. You got Andy back.
01:04:48
Speaker
It doesn't fully utilize Andy there. You got Nika back. Doesn't really fully utilize Nika. You have Jennifer Tilly coming back at the end and they want to give you this big surprise. Doesn't really work.
01:05:00
Speaker
It's just a lesser version of curse. It's not just that to me, but that that is one of the things it is to me. I don't think it would have been a good direction to go on a train either. um Spoilers for Scream, what was it, six?
01:05:19
Speaker
Wait, going to take my headphones off. Is this a bad spoiler for Scream? No, because you see what it is ah in the trailer. Okay, if it's in the trailer, you go ahead and spoil it. That's cool. If we like ah hit Scream for the podcast, that'll be my first time watching any of the sequels.
01:05:36
Speaker
Really? Really? Yeah, I've only seen the first one. and Oh my god. I might have seen the third one because I know Creed is in the third one. Oh my god, yeah, we need to cover Scream. I love the Scream franchise, so yeah, we have cover that.
01:05:49
Speaker
I'm excited about that. Hell fucking yeah. he I'm saving it for the podcast. Scream is the franchise I was actually ah save screaming friday the thirteenth or the two i was saving for the podcast.
01:06:01
Speaker
Hell fucking yeah. We are going to have a ball with that. I love that franchise. Okay, cool. um But no, they they're in New York and there's a scene when they're on the train and I don't like it. They try to make it you know fun for the audience, but It did not go well for me. i I was not a fan of that. So I think if they took that route in this film for Cult of Chucky, I probably wouldn't have liked it either. So I think if they were to have just ended the franchise with Curse of Chucky, that would have been great.
01:06:43
Speaker
um you know their their post-credits scene they bring andy back he shoots him that would have been a great fucking ending bang up job but no they had to try to you know go for more a little bit i don't know if they were under a contract to you know spit out another movie but yeah if they would have just ended it with curse it would have been fine I have a feeling enough time passed and Universal probably approached Don Mancini. We're like, what do you got?
01:07:12
Speaker
Let's, you know, there's a new horror business model out there. They, I don't know how well it worked for curse, how much money curse made, but actually I think curse might've been straight to DVD. Actually. I think I heard curse didn't get a theatrical release. I could be wrong though.
01:07:29
Speaker
Did you, did, did you see it in theaters? No, it was straight to DVD. I mean, it it probably had a good life and made a good amount of money on DVD. And then whatever streaming rights, I'm sure Curse made enough money to justify cult getting made after enough time. And they were probably like, hey, let's just give another crack.
01:07:47
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They might have had a contract with Netflix already. I mean, they put $5 million into it. Whatever they sold it to Netflix for, for to just live on there, probably paid them back. probably just a safe bet to do this for five million dollars for a Chucky movie that probably makes the money back in a couple of years and even more probably eventually like starts to turn a profit pretty quickly.
01:08:07
Speaker
one One thing people don't understand is like even if things don't make a profit initially, they all eventually will make a profit with like the VOD life is like a whole new thing.
01:08:18
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. i mean, I guess that there are some fans of Cult of Chucky. What do you guys think? Are you fans of Curse or are you part of the cult? Let us know.
01:08:30
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Comment on our Instagram. Comment on this episode, wherever you're listening to it too. What is your ranking of Curse and Cult? You know, giving them, you know, out of five stars, would what would you rank both of them? Because I can't remember what you ranked Curse before.
01:08:47
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Oh, I put curse at four out of five and I put cult at three out of five. And that's a very generous three. I think I'm giving cult right now. Yeah. There's a lot of this whole podcast and all these episodes and everything leading up to it. That's all going into that three star journey. Cause I'm like, Hey, thanks for not,
01:09:09
Speaker
Ending this with a shitty movie. You didn't really end it, but thanks for making it not a pile of shit. Thank God for not giving us another Child's Play 3.
01:09:20
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Yeah, Child's Play 3. Let's never talk about that again. I do want to say, too, Letterboxd, I saw some very high ratings for this. It's a 2.5 to a 3.5 movie from a lot of people I follow.
01:09:33
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Someone even gave it four stars, but a lot of it is like living in the three-star range from people I follow. People have seen
Personal Rankings and Preferences
01:09:40
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this one, and ah while it has a 2.6 on Letterboxd, it seems like the Chucky fans think better of it than what the general audience thinks of it.
01:09:51
Speaker
I actually can now say i prefer Seed of Chucky over this movie. And I do not like Seed of Chucky. Seed, seed, seed.
01:10:04
Speaker
What's a good chant? Seed of Chucky, seed of Chucky, seed of Chucky. we can I can hear everybody chanting at home right now. They're all fist bumping with you right now.
01:10:15
Speaker
Yeah, everybody's on board. We've converted Mercedes. Even though she didn't say she loves it or is a fan of it. you know She likes it more than two of the entries in this franchise. and at least it's not at the bottom.
01:10:30
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so Let's give her a round of applause. Oh, I hate that we've we've come to this point. i've hate I hate it. I know you love it, but no. um What, the end of our mainline Chucky movies?
01:10:46
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No, just the fact that i had I came out and said that because, you know, going into Seed of Chucky, I'm just thinking, even going into part three, even though I just said, you know, let's not talk about that again.
01:10:58
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um Going into ah Child's Play 3 and Seed of Chucky, was just thinking, I do not like these films. These are not going to be enjoyable watches for me. I'm going to do it for the podcast, you know, suck it up.
01:11:12
Speaker
um But, you know, i knew I was going to have somewhat of a good time with Child's Play 3, but... but hated it at the same time. I'm contradicting myself and I probably sound stupid, but um i already knew what I was getting into with Child's Play, through or no, with Seed of Chucky.
01:11:32
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And then I couldn't remember how Cult of Chucky was. i just knew i wasn't a fan of it either. So now watching it again, and it being in such um close proximity with me watching Seed of Chucky. Yes, I could say I like Seed of Chucky more, but ah hate the fact that I had to say that.
01:11:54
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Man, why do I have a feeling you're going to put the Child's Play remake above Seed of Chucky? you seen that yet? I have seen it. i so i saw snippets of it one time. i didn't like it. Then I think I watched it ah all the way through another time because Cody Leach, I've i watched all of his YouTube videos.
01:12:17
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He, I really hope it's him. um He really liked it and he defended it. So I tried watching it. I could kind of see what he liked about it when I watched it again, but I haven't watched it since.
01:12:31
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So I don't know. I don't, I don't have high hopes for that either. Let's go in with an open mind. I have a feeling we're not going to like it, but what if we love it?
01:12:44
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you know You're probably going to love it. I could see you liking this one a lot. i really do. really? I'm so... I don't really like horror remakes for the most part. I surprisingly liked the Rob Zombie Halloween. Guys, don't kill me.
01:12:58
Speaker
I like the Rob Zombie Halloween 2 even more. Don't kill me. Most remakes outside of that haven't really been a fan of too much. um Like the Speak No Evil remake that came out recently. don't dumb didn't like it uh glad you guys got to hear that i was going to watch that too but you know because the trailer it looked okay and then when i put it on i instantly turned it off because i got bored have you seen the original no but i should
01:13:34
Speaker
Oh, dude, watch the original. The original is, like, fucked up in, like, so much better ways. The fucking remake is just so conventional and dumb. It really bothers me. but Just because people went to see that one who didn't see the remake, and I'm like, okay, this one's just not gonna get seen by these people now, I think.
01:13:55
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Like, because it's just, they went to see the... I know people who are like, I won't see the foreign movie. Give me the American remake. And I'm like, I hate that. It feels like we're catering to that now.
01:14:07
Speaker
Yeah, i I try my best to um watch the original if I'm going to watch a remake of ah movie. Yeah. It doesn't always happen, but I do try that. And then if I don't know that there is an original movie that was a foreign film, then I end up watching... i try to watch both, too.
01:14:31
Speaker
But there are a few times that I didn't know that it was um a foreign film originally. um I think... Yeah, i can't think of any off the top of my head. um I did like the movie One Missed Call. I knew that was a foreign film. I actually watched that with my mom a long time ago, and it scared the shit out of me.
01:14:50
Speaker
and Then when um an American version was coming out, I wasn't happy because I knew they were going to butcher it, and they do. um so Yeah, I'm on board with you with that.
01:15:03
Speaker
Have you seen Ring U, or did you see Wreck before quarantine? I did see Rick before quarantine. So um I do love that film too. It's fucking scary as hell. um What is Ringu?
01:15:18
Speaker
The Ring. Oh, really? Wow. ah Sorry, I felt like you knew that already for some reason. Because I use the Ringu poster in our trailer too.
01:15:29
Speaker
But it's kind of hard to make out. There weren't really that many good posters for that movie to use for our trailer. Yeah, I've seen the posters for it. um And I've heard the name. i just I never knew what it was. And I didn't want to be stupid and think, oh, yeah, it's the ring.
01:15:45
Speaker
But wow Wreck is pretty close to the top of my list for priority movies for this podcast. Like he yeah ah probably sometime within the end of this year, the beginning of next year, one of my picks will probably be the Wreck trilogy. I think it's a trilogy, but yeah, that' that's something I'm i very interested in doing for the pod.
01:16:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's a trilogy and i feel like I've only seen the first one. i might have seen the second. seen both the second. and Okay, yeah, i I only remember the first one. um So yeah, I'm excited to cover that. I'm excited to cover that and Scream. I did not know you only saw the first Scream.
01:16:33
Speaker
Yeah, so I mean, listeners don't know our schedule yet and how it's mapped out, but you're the next up to pick after what's on our schedule last. So I mean, not saying it has to be Scream, but it's something you can consider now if you want to do another franchise that you've already seen and you love. I'm sticking to a lot of ones I haven't seen, but like...
01:16:58
Speaker
If you do, like, if you pick the Scream, I would not be opposed to that in any way. It would be another longer one, but I would not be opposed to that in any way.
01:17:08
Speaker
Okay. I need to look at our list again and see, um because maybe I might want to save that for another season. But, yeah.
01:17:19
Speaker
Yeah. I know we're doing our rankings next week, but you know since we're at the end of this Chucky journey, should we just tell the listeners now what we're doing in two weeks? Yeah, fuck it. let's Let's go on and tell them. That way they have something to latch on So after next week we' you know next week, we're doing the Child's Play remake, and then we're kicking off our next season with All Hallows' Eve. We're covering the Terrifier movies.
01:17:46
Speaker
Let's fucking go, man. i i am so excited to do that. I've been hyped that season. So 3, right? you said you only saw terrafier three right Mm-hmm.
01:18:02
Speaker
And if you guys check out my other podcasts, These Guys Got Juice, we did a Terrifier 3 review. And I haven't listened to it in a long time, but it's one of the reviews I'm i'm i'm the most proud of, I'd say, ah from that podcast. I really... ah I didn't know if I could handle the Terrifier movies. And spoilers for our upcoming Terrifier miniseries, I loved Terrifier 3.
01:18:26
Speaker
ah So I'm, like, so excited... For this next miniseries, I'm like, I was excited for Chucky and I'm excited for everything to come after Terrifier.
01:18:37
Speaker
But right now, everything that's on the schedule, Terrifier is the one where I'm like, ooh, I'm so excited to fucking record those episodes, especially because they're not like that pot heavy. So it's going be fun to talk about.
01:18:50
Speaker
It really fucking is. And listened to your review on ah the Terrifier 3 movie um when I was just watching reviews for the movie because i had no plans on watching it.
01:19:07
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But you guys hyped it up and then one of my buddies hyped it up a lot and a lot of ah YouTubers that i follow would not stop hyping it up so...
01:19:19
Speaker
yeah ah Once I finally did watch it, I was i was hooked. so i I'm pretty fucking excited for it. I hope everyone else has something to look forward to now. I hope you guys have been enjoying the Chucky franchise and all of our episodes and what we think of it. so I'm excited to hear what everyone thinks about the Terrifier movies.
01:19:42
Speaker
Yeah, I hope you guys are ready to get terrified. love it.
01:19:48
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We've been Morbid Curiosities. Let's go!