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Terrifier
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they clown around with their new pal Art in Damien Leone's 2016 gorefest, Terrifier!
They talk about the growth in Damien's filmmaking and storytelling from All Hallows' Eve to its follow up, the much-discussed hacksaw scene, how they would handle themselves if faced with Art, and much more!
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Recording Excitement
00:01:11
Speaker
What is up guys, we're Morbid Curiosity's bringing you another episode. I'm one of your hosts, Nicholas Ewers, and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the morbid mistress of mayhem herself, Mercedes Martinez. Thank you, Nick, for that amazing intro.
00:01:28
Speaker
Hell yeah. Love to have you as a co-host. Glad we're here. Glad we're doing it. Happy Friday. We're recording on a Friday. ah We don't usually shout out the day we record, but it feels good. Early Friday record. It feels nice. It's light outside.
Horror Movie Fandom
00:01:45
Speaker
We're about to talk about Terrifier, like a super brutal movie. It feels good. feels good to be a horror fan today.
00:01:55
Speaker
It does. And i was just thinking right now, if there, well, when there's a month where there's a Friday the 13th, that should automatically be an extra recording day just for good luck.
00:02:08
Speaker
I'm down. I'm down to do that. we Maybe should we have like a bonus episode that goes out on Friday friday the 13th? That would be like a once a year commitment we would make. We could come up with a special Friday the 13th bonus episode.
00:02:24
Speaker
Maybe that's how we take down the series. We do one movie every Friday the 13th. It takes us forever to cover I'm okay with that. That'd be cool.
00:02:36
Speaker
I like that. We'll consider it. we'll We'll put it down on ah the show's notes that we share. We're getting creative here, so let's let's keep up that momentum. I love it.
00:02:49
Speaker
Yeah, I'm trying to think of different ways, too, that we can get the listeners and fans involved.
Engaging the Audience
00:02:55
Speaker
And listeners right now, like go check out our Instagram, morbid underscore curiosity underscore pod, morbid curiosities pod.
00:03:03
Speaker
um And rate and review is five stars if you're enjoying what we're doing. We're covering the Terrifier movies right now. We did All Hallows' Eve last week. Hope you guys enjoyed that. Don't know if you watched it.
00:03:14
Speaker
This one, you know...
Unexpected Fans
00:03:17
Speaker
or talk This isn't what all the kids are talking about, right? Sure, let's go with that. They're all talking about the first Terrifier movie. Yeah, it's all their favorite. Do you have ah anybody in your life who is a fan of the Terrifiers?
00:03:33
Speaker
Yeah, one of my buddies, let's call him, let's see, Zeke. See, didn't go with the AD name. um he Shout out to Zeke. Yeah, he um hopefully he knows this is who i'm referring he's who I'm referring to. But yeah, he was the one who just hyped up all the movies to me.
00:03:53
Speaker
And I was just honestly surprised because... I didn't think that would be his cup of tea, but you know he he really dug these movies and he got me and my husband into them. so um well I don't think my husband is like a fan fan, but I can say i'm i'm a fan of Art the Cloud now.
Mercedes' Husband's Take
00:04:14
Speaker
Has your husband seen all of them? Yes, he's seen all um all of them except All Hallows Eve. He saw snippets of it when I was watching it. He was like, yeah, I'll pass.
00:04:25
Speaker
Yeah, pretty much. he Almost every scene, he's like, this dumb bitch, this dumb bitch. And I'm like, wow, that's that's how I talk all the time, watching these films. But um yeah, it didn't catch his interest at all.
00:04:39
Speaker
Yeah, that
Art the Clown's Popularity
00:04:40
Speaker
that's understandable. I don't blame him for sitting that one out. it's It's cool. We talked about this briefly in the last episode, but it is cool, like the stranglehold, the grip that Art the Clown seems to have on the youth of America right now. Maybe the youth of the world. I don't know. how Listeners from around the world, what is the Terrifier's presence? like Is this a big worldwide phenomenon? I actually didn't look up the worldwide numbers for the most recent Terrifier, but I know like domestically it was a huge success.
The Harsh Appeal of Horror
00:05:14
Speaker
Yeah, um so many people that i didn't even think would be into the ah these films, all of them were, you saw all of these um little toddlers, all these young ones, they're all dressed up as Art the Clown or... um the little pale girl from part two. That's not necessary necessarily a spoiler, but um yeah, you have so many people dressed up as him. so um So this is a crowd favorite with everyone.
00:05:47
Speaker
I love seeing it between this and the smile movies. It's nice to have horror with fresh new iconography that is successful. Smile was a huge hit. Smile too, I think was, I don't know if it did as good as smile, but it was still a hit.
00:06:04
Speaker
Um, I love both of those movies. What do you have any thoughts on the smiles? Um, um So I still need to watch part two. I'm really intrigued by it.
00:06:17
Speaker
That sounds so bad because I haven't watched it yet and it's been out for how long? But um the first one I did like, it was it was fucking creepy. So I do want to see the the next one. I just got to squeeze it into our terrifier bits.
00:06:33
Speaker
Smile, both of them are movies that are very mean to its characters. And it's something that I didn't realize that I wanted so badly last October. But I watched i re-watched the first Smile and really fell in love with it.
00:06:50
Speaker
And Terrifier is a very similar movie. It's very mean to its characters. So I am kind of discovering... Both of these are blowing up in popularity.
00:07:01
Speaker
Before this, Saw was another big franchise that blew up in popularity. i Do audiences just really love horror movies that are mean to its characters? Hereditary is another one that blew up. That's pretty, you know, I'm not going to spoil Hereditary, but doesn't necessarily work out too well for everybody.
00:07:24
Speaker
I think that's what the people are going for. they are going for the fucked up endings of all these films. Yeah, and then on the contrary, movies like... a lot of Blumhouse movies are pretty successful, and I would consider Blumhouse to make pretty softball horror movies most of the time.
00:07:44
Speaker
Their biggest success was like Five Nights at Freddy's, and that was PG-13, and I thought that movie was pretty bad. I know a lot of people disagree with me. I may be wrong, but...
Blumhouse Critique
00:07:56
Speaker
it It really wasn't doing it, but it was still super successful, and they're going to make 11 more of those probably. Really? That many more? That movie was a huge hit, dude. and It was a day-and-date release, I'm pretty sure, with like Peacock, because Blumhouse Universal, um I think it was Peacock.
00:08:16
Speaker
so It came out on Peacock the same day it came out in theaters, and it still made, i want to say, I could be wrong, It made at least $100 million. I think it got up to like $300 million or something like that.
00:08:32
Speaker
It was ridiculous. And the movie, I think, is pretty bad. Okay. I've never seen it, and now I don't think I want to see it. You should check it out. We should watch that for the podcast ah if we do that like scary kids movies maybe because I would put that in the kids movies category. It's PG-13 and it's not that great.
00:08:53
Speaker
Also, yeah we don't have to watch it or talk about it for the podcast either. That's not something we have to commit to. It just sounds like it's a favorite movie of yours and you want me to watch it so it can become my favorite.
00:09:08
Speaker
I see what you're doing. No, it is far from a favorite of mine. I was not happy that I paid to see that movie. I don't remember why I saw it. I think it was one of the only ones in theaters.
00:09:20
Speaker
But then I was just so mad in the theater because one, it was bad. And two, I was dealing with a situation where the person I was with left their phone and the lift that we took to get to the theater.
00:09:31
Speaker
And I had to deal with that problem. so Fuck that movie. Fuck Five Nights at Freddy's. It sucks. Well, at least you have a good story to go along with that.
00:09:45
Speaker
I don't even know, man. I don't think it was worth the stress. I was so mad.
Spoiler Alert: First Impressions
00:09:50
Speaker
All right. Well, stress aside, let's get into the the topic at hand here, terrifier.
00:09:58
Speaker
Spoilers ahead for Terrifier, guys. Even though not a lot to spoil here, you could probably listen to this podcast and still enjoy the movie, I'd say.
00:10:09
Speaker
But you should still watch the movie. um Do you want to give your initial thoughts? Yeah, so it's funny because how I was saying in the previous episode, I watched the Terrifier movies um backwards pretty much.
00:10:25
Speaker
um The first time I watched the first one, or this one, it was... yeah I didn't really care for it, um but I knew what it was going to be going into it. Everyone who had seen it or little reviews I watched, they all said the same thing. There's just carnage candy throughout the entire film.
00:10:46
Speaker
So that's all I was expecting. you know I just made sure to eat prior, um before watching this. And then um it was just, it left me so disturbed that I was thinking, I don't ever want to watch this again. i can watch the other ones, just not this one.
00:11:04
Speaker
And then watching it, re-watching it now for the podcast, directly after we watched All Hallows Eve, I kind of like it now. I can actually say, you know, it ah jumped up a notch for me.
00:11:20
Speaker
Hell yeah. I dig it. I dig it. I didn't know how you were going to feel about it because you seemed to question me digging it when I texted you.
00:11:31
Speaker
I was just surprised that you did like it. But yeah, just go into your opinions on it um because you seem to be on board with it as well. Yeah, I rated this movie a three and a half... I gave it a three and a half star rating on Letterboxd. Guys, go follow me on Letterboxd at Nicholas Ewers.
00:11:51
Speaker
It's where i log all my movies, review them sometimes. But I really enjoyed this movie. I found it to be a huge, huge step up from All Hallows' Eve.
00:12:03
Speaker
It... I feel like we can Damien Leone. We can basically say this is his first movie similar to James Cameron where he directed Piranha 2.
00:12:14
Speaker
But we all just say yet Terminator is James Cameron's first movie or M. Night Shyamalan. People don't even know that he did a small indie film praying with anger and a comedy with starring.
00:12:28
Speaker
What's her face? Um, I can't remember her name. I'll leave it alone. But it's a comedy called Wide Awake. And he did both of those before The Sixth Sense. And people just consider The Sixth Sense basically his first movie.
00:12:43
Speaker
So I think we can pretty much consider this Damon Leone's like first official movie. And I dig what he's doing here. It's a really good exercise of horror.
00:12:56
Speaker
There's not a whole lot of plot. But there's... A good amount of kills. I will say there's some fat that I think could be cut. I'll talk about that more when we start to get into the actual characters and the plot.
00:13:09
Speaker
But this movie is appropriate. I'm looking at the audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. It has a 52% audience score, which I can kind of get now that I think about it.
00:13:21
Speaker
And a 62% critics rating. um critics rating That kind of surprises me. I wrote a whole thing down that says some critics shouldn't review horror because I expected this to actually have bad reviews.
00:13:34
Speaker
But that's pretty appropriate. That's pretty on point. I think that that makes sense to me. This movie, I have a big appreciation for what it's doing, what Damien Leone is doing.
00:13:47
Speaker
He reminds me of an early Sam Raimi, not in style, but in ambition. And i I found this movie to be effective, gross, nasty. It made me uncomfortable. I couldn't eat while watching it. I walked away the second time watching it during the fucking bone tomahawk scene. Listeners, if you've seen bone tomahawk, you know what I'm talking about.
00:14:09
Speaker
This movie's wild. It's a trip. And I'm glad, I'm fucking glad we're doing these movies. I'm so stoked on them. I had a blast. i wouldn't even i wouldn't say a blast. This movie is very upsetting.
00:14:21
Speaker
But I, man, I am glad I'm taking in these things. and I'm glad they exist in this world and people are digging them and they're making money. So what you're saying is you like to live on the dark side of things. You're liking all the killings in here. They just stir something deep inside you.
00:14:42
Speaker
it You know, we tend to talk about do these characters deserve it? This movie doesn't really set up characters who deserve a lot of the things that happen to them. And it's like pretty horrific, the things that happen to them.
00:14:56
Speaker
But there is it is effective when you're watching something and you just know... So many innocent people are going to die left and right.
00:15:08
Speaker
There's nothing you can do about it. There's nothing they can do about it. You as an audience member are helpless to their situation. You know their helplessness. You know their fate.
00:15:20
Speaker
And it's but it's really effective in my opinion. Yeah. So um any other thoughts before you we jump right into it?
Opening Scene Analysis
00:15:30
Speaker
No, I'm down to go right into it. Yeah.
00:15:33
Speaker
Cool. so you start off with, um hopefully I'm remembering it correctly, the little TV where they're doing this interview with, ah you're the one that pointed it out, the actress who played the babysitter in All Hallows' Eve. Katie Maguire. Katie Maguire.
00:15:50
Speaker
Yeah, her ah her character in here is named Monica Brown, and she is interviewing someone who has ah fucked up face. And it took me a few tries previously to watch it.
00:16:06
Speaker
all the way through. And now it just, it looks so bad. the the eyeball, like this girl's face is just all fucking warped. And the main feature you see, the features you see are her mouth and her like ah right eyeball, but it just looks like a little button or something, a marble.
00:16:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And i don't know. I think that interview is shouldn't have been the intro because, you know, after after you get a little bit of, you know, what happened with this girl, she was attacked by the Miles County clown.
00:16:43
Speaker
You see a big boot trash the TV, and then you see Art himself you know just getting himself ready. He's putting on his makeup, and I like that for the opening credits scene. like We're seeing him basically in a human form, so to speak, because he is applying his makeup and getting his costume ready.
00:17:05
Speaker
um In the little mirror that ah he's using, you see that his nose is all fucked up. But um the fact that he's putting makeup on, you never see killers or slashers do that. So I think if they had that in the beginning, just as the credits scene, and waited to use that interview towards the ending, it would have been a lot more of a solid buildup for me. I don't know if you think the same or not.
00:17:33
Speaker
I agree. It's very cool that he got a superhero suit up type of moment. ah It reminded me a little bit when you said how we don't see serial killers like that. It reminded me a little bit like Matt Reeves, the Batman, how you see Batman's makeup. I kind of like when you see through the seams of characters a little bit.
00:17:57
Speaker
um You get that with ah a lot of clown characters. Actually, I talked about the Joker last time. He's another one. It's really cool when you see through the cracks of these characters who are all dressed up. I have an appreciation for that so that I find that very effective to begin the movie on.
00:18:13
Speaker
And now in retrospect, I do agree with you that I don't really love that the movie opens. I mean, we already said spoilers, but spoilers, the movie opens in media res. That's a character that is from, that's a scene from basically. It basically takes, takes place at the end of the mil the film.
00:18:36
Speaker
Yeah. We're basically seeing the ending at the very beginning. yeah. Yeah, I don't love media res in a lot of movies, and it happens a lot.
00:18:47
Speaker
I just saw Sinners last night. Sinners opens in media res, and I always get a shaky feeling. Don't Breathe opens in media res for seemingly no reason with just an old man dragging ah the girl through the streets or whatever.
00:19:04
Speaker
I don't really love it. It feels unnecessary. i don't know why movies tend to lean on it for their intros. So I do agree with you now that I've seen the movie and I know how it ends.
00:19:17
Speaker
I'm not going to lie, the first time I watched it, I didn't understand why that took place there, like what that character, um what her purpose was in this film, um aside from you know being one of ah Art's victims.
00:19:34
Speaker
um So yeah, just watching it now, um or once they even introduced her character later on before her face was all jacked up.
00:19:44
Speaker
I didn't know that was her the first time I watched it, but watching reviews after watching watching this film for the first time, that was when everyone was saying, you know, it's it's quite annoying that they opened up with the interview because they gave away the ending with this girl's character.
00:20:03
Speaker
i didn't realize it was the ending initially because I don't know if in the interview if they call her Victoria. I don't remember if they do, but i was watching the part where her sister Tara calls her.
00:20:18
Speaker
So you have um these other two characters, Tara and Don, they're leaving a Halloween party. and Dawn's car has a flat tire, plus they're both drunk so they can't drive. So Tara calls her sister, who is Victoria, and i thought, okay, is this when they say her name and that's how people automatically know this character was her?
00:20:43
Speaker
But she doesn't even say her name in there. She just says, hey, you know can you pick us up or whatever, however that conversation went. um But yeah, I can't remember if they said her name in the interview.
00:20:55
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think they say it in the interview, but they ah drop it a few times throughout the movie. i But yeah, at the end, at the very end, they say, we i think the final line of the movie is, um are you ready for your interview tomorrow, Victoria?
00:21:13
Speaker
so like, good luck on your interview, yeah. Yeah, but it was a little too cute for me. i didn't need that little wraparound. I appreciate Damon Leone for trying. They say your ending should mirror your beginning in some way.
00:21:30
Speaker
And yeah, Media Res just isn't the way to do it for me. Do it like Inside Llewyn Davis, where it's literally... the same exact thing happens but just through a different sequence of events and we literally get the same exact shot that we begin and end on it's uh i fucking love the coen brothers spoilers for inside lewin davis No one cares. This is a horror podcast. They're not watching that.
00:22:00
Speaker
Shut up. But yeah, it's it's just... ah it It was a strange setup. But anyway, you have these two girls. They're pretty drunk. um And they see...
00:22:14
Speaker
Art the Clown in the distance just staring at them. and you know the The one character, Tara, she's freaked out and then he just disappears. so They decide to go get food at this ah small pizza shop.
00:22:30
Speaker
And can I just say how fucking annoying Dawn is? she she had She has a stupid voice or tone of voice. And you could just see her being that ditzy character.
00:22:44
Speaker
And both of them annoyed me because this is a situation where the women in the movie annoys me because both of them went to a Halloween party And they were both drinking.
00:22:56
Speaker
If one of them can see that the other one is getting way too fucked up and it's nearing the time that they're getting ready to leave, maybe that other person should sober up. That way they won't be in the predicament that they found themselves in. I'm just saying.
00:23:10
Speaker
Yeah, or have a ride prepared. and Call a Lyft or an Uber. This was like 2016. 2016. Yeah, Lyft and Uber existed definitely.
00:23:24
Speaker
That's not even proposed at any point. They stay stranded at at a pizzeria, which, gotta say, kind of scary looking pizzeria. Looks like a place where people would be murdered.
00:23:36
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like a place where, you know, it's just um a setup for drug deals to go down, honestly. Did you mention the part where they see art initially in the street before they go to the pizzeria?
00:23:48
Speaker
Yes, so he's already on there on his radar. He saw them. um and The girl Dawn is just like in her own little world where Tara, she sees him staring at them and is already getting on edge and was a little freaked out about him when they were at the pizza shop.
00:24:09
Speaker
so Then once he makes his entrance and just sits down, she's just thinking, fuck, he you followed us here. And their little stare down was intense. And Art's carrying around a garbage bag this entire time.
00:24:24
Speaker
Did they ever explain what was inside the garbage bag? Do we ever see? I don't think they do it in this one, but they show it in part two.
Mystery of the Garbage Bag
00:24:34
Speaker
They do? Okay.
00:24:35
Speaker
Wow. I didn't know we were going to get that reveal. Okay. That's interesting. shit. Sorry. Spoilers for Terrifier 2. We see what's in the garbage bag. Yeah, that's like the least expected thing. i was just like, oh, it's kind of cool. They just had a garbage bag and they don't explain what's in it. But damn, that's a nice little payoff. I like when movies pay certain things off.
00:25:00
Speaker
But, uh, Yeah, when they go to the pizzeria, Art is sitting there looking fucking shitty and like mean. And I like how randomly it cuts to ah him just kind of giving a very just weird smile. How would you describe that smile that he gives? I can't even find a word.
00:25:24
Speaker
It's like fake Joyce's teeth are vicious looking. Yeah, like sinister, satanic-looking. satanic-looking, human-looking. Kind of cutesy, though. He's very playful, Art.
00:25:38
Speaker
He is very playful. He has kind of a childish demeanor in that point. But so, yeah, he ends up, ah well, you were speaking to Dawn and how wild she is. She ends up going and sitting on his lap to try and get a selfie with him and post it on Instagram while her friend is like, what the fuck are you doing? Don't do this. Stop doing this. It's like, you're such a bad friend. Dawn is just annoying drunk girl, like drunk white girl, stereotypical annoying drunk white girl.
00:26:09
Speaker
Man, I'm like frustrated with a fictional character right now. See, now you see my or feel my pain. um Random question. How old do you think these two women are?
00:26:23
Speaker
oh man. With how like obliterated drunk they're getting and being irresponsible about their car, I would guess 22. That's what I figured as well. It just reminded me of um the this one episode of um Hot Ones, I think. Jenna Ortega was on there, and they were um asking her questions about you know how do you feel about the teenage characters that you portray in ah the the movies and shows you're in.
00:26:55
Speaker
And she had said, you know, I wish they were, um i can't remember word for word, but she was basically saying she wishes that they were more intelligent. You know, they're kind of playing stereotypical teenagers where they're naive or they just go into stupid ah situations that they can't dig themselves out of.
00:27:18
Speaker
And I wish they had a little more credit to, you know, use their brain. in these situations and that's exactly what I was thinking of in this movie just are you that fucking dumb and that drunk that you're gonna go to some random ass clown this random ass person and sit on his fucking lap he could have easily assaulted you right then and there but know no let me let me get a picture for the gram Yeah, not with those teeth. The only justification you could give is that's a really good Halloween costume.
00:27:53
Speaker
But it looks terrifying still. Not to say the title, almost say the title of this movie. You were waiting to use that one, weren't you?
00:28:03
Speaker
I keep accidentally using it. I'm trying not to say terrified because I use that word a lot anyway when I'm talking about things that are scary. And in this franchise, it's just going to sound stupid when I do it.
00:28:17
Speaker
Not really. it'll It'll go hand in hand with it. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I feel dumb, but thank you. I'll try to get over it Yeah, but um realistically, though, unless you know someone that you're trying to take a picture with that who is all decked out in a costume, you are not going to go sit on their lap.
00:28:41
Speaker
You will be like, oh, my God, let me take a picture. Or you'll just go and stand awkwardly next to them, just not go sit on their lap. That that was just too much.
00:28:56
Speaker
I hate Donne. It really was. it's all it's You just can't do that to anybody. you i don't think anybody's allowed to just sit on somebody's lap without full consent.
00:29:09
Speaker
that shouldn't be lot Guys, just a message from Morbid Curiosities. Don't sit on anybody's lap without consent. Yeah, because imagine what if he was going along with it? He went along with it. like He hugged her or he like booped her nose because she kind of like touches his nose a little bit.
00:29:31
Speaker
um What if he started being extra creepy with her? She would have turned that shit right around and started freaking out about him, but he didn't. He just looks at her in the picture.
00:29:42
Speaker
um But yeah, just just don't fucking do it. Use your damn brain. Yeah, that was the most chill art has ever been in his entire life was that moment. Which I'm surprised. She fucking just takes his hat off or like snaps his hat off. Oh, yeah.
00:29:59
Speaker
And snaps it in his face too, right? Yeah, you would think that was going to be alone that alone would have set him off, but no, he you know he kept composed. he He had a plan in mind.
00:30:11
Speaker
God, Dawn sucks. the the A lot of these characters are kind of dumber than they should be. Like, there's a point, not to jump too far into the movie, but Tara and Art have a confrontation, and she has a good upper hand on Art.
00:30:29
Speaker
He's on the ground in pain, and she's like come on, get up. Get up, you motherfucker. Get up. And I'm like, what are you doing? Kill this guy. Right.
00:30:41
Speaker
you Why are you making this a fight? This shouldn't be a fight. This guy has cannibalized people. he's and He's a menace.
00:30:52
Speaker
Get him off the streets. Kill Art the Clown. But she gives him some time and then... I'm just going to say this now. He pulled out a handgun, which I find was kind of funny. We don't have to like go straight into this moment yet if you don't want to, but found it funny.
00:31:07
Speaker
It's reminiscent of All Hallows' Eve. There's a lot of... um This movie reuses a lot of what All Hallows' Eve does. I hope the franchise doesn't continue to do that, and it just... Damon Leone gets it out of his system here, and he keeps um upping the game from two to three, but...
00:31:28
Speaker
Yeah, I did appreciate those little callbacks to All Hallows Eve. Yeah, I started noticing those too. um But yeah, though the whole little fight scene, that that was just dumb. You have the upper hand with him being hurt. Okay, start hitting him more or just attacking him more. And that was one...
00:31:52
Speaker
um gripe that i had against this film too because everyone who has the chance to attack art they stab him once or they hit him with something once and then once he falls they're just thinking okay i did my job let me leave well then they hide they corner themselves immediately victoria does that and that leads to her fate everybody is cornering themselves right after they hurt Art.
00:32:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's stupid because i had even um asked my husband what with one of the scenes that we were watching, just, you know, it i didn't ask him, but i had talked to him just saying, okay, in an event like that,
00:32:43
Speaker
If someone's attacking me or if I saw this type of brutality um against a friend of mine that I was with or anyone for that matter, the the um guy who is committing all these acts, if I have a chance to attack them, I'm not just going to stab the guy once or hit the guy once. I will probably go crazy and...
00:33:04
Speaker
whack the dude like so many fucking times on the head in the back stab him whatever not just this little dainty one time deal and then think okay he's dead do you see where you hit this guy or stab this guy it's not enough to fucking paralyze him or kill him get it together people Yeah, I would almost be too afraid to stop like defending myself from this guy.
00:33:31
Speaker
Especially, he's fighting Art after she just saw her friend get sawed in half. This fight takes place after that scene.
The Infamous Hacksaw Scene
00:33:43
Speaker
yeah you You saw him in half. That's how you deal with this problem. Exactly. Something should click in your head, in your mind to attack this guy and avenge your friend.
00:33:56
Speaker
um By the way, how did you feel about that scene? That is the scene in here that everyone refers to. Yeah, I didn't know that was in this movie. I thought that was in Terrifier 2.
00:34:07
Speaker
It really caught me off guard. I was like, oh fuck, we're doing this right now. I'm watching this today. and I didn't realize well Yeah, every, um or once part, three came out and everyone was talking about that scene. No, when part two came out and everyone was saying, oh the bedroom scene.
00:34:28
Speaker
um i didn't know what they were talking about since I didn't watch it. And then when part three came out, they were thinking, OK, the shower scene, you know, there's the scene in each one So I was wondering, OK, well, what's the scene in this one?
00:34:43
Speaker
And then once we got there, damn, that that was painful to watch. Him using a hacksaw just makes it so much worse.
00:34:54
Speaker
And honestly, having used a hacksaw on things before, maybe the hacksaws I was using at previous jobs weren't really that sharp. They were pretty worn out. I feel like it would take him a lot longer to do what he did to that woman.
00:35:07
Speaker
Oh, definitely. don't even want to say what he did to her. It was so upsetting. And the fact that when he's cutting her, he doesn't fully split her. It's like she's got a little bit of head still keeping her like as one piece. Right. Right. And she just dangles there.
00:35:28
Speaker
Honestly, Tara's reaction isn't horrified enough. She gets over it pretty fast and then challenges Bart to a street fight later. ah She's like, hey, let's have a fair fight. Get up and fight me.
00:35:41
Speaker
It's like, what the fuck are you doing? Right. um It's crazy. You know what's trippy too? So i can't remember where I watched or heard this from, but from um the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, when he lifts the girl up and like, um spoils spoilers for this movie if people haven't watched it, when he lifts this one girl up and he just like,
00:36:14
Speaker
puts her back on like that hook that's suspended from the- The meat hooks. Yes, that part. um I remember um some people were talking about it and they were saying you know the the scene is more horrific watching because you see she has like a backless top on or whatever the fuck she was wearing.
00:36:36
Speaker
and that reminded me or This scene reminded me of that ah he Art has this bitch suspended in the air by her feet and she's naked except from her except of her... ah She only has her fucking panties on. And then right before he starts slicing her in half, he rips them off And I don't know why just that act alone made it that much harder to watch as if that little fabric of clothing was going to save her or help in any way. It really wasn't. But yeah, that blade is still going to cut through it. But you're just zo the blade is like touching directly on such a sensitive area.
00:37:21
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Just slicing and dicing right there. yeah that was That was rough to watch, man. Guys, go watch this film just for that scene if you
Creative Kill Scenes
00:37:31
Speaker
haven't yet.
00:37:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, there are kills I've seen similar to that inside and outside of this franchise. But the fucking hacksaw is what makes it so much worse.
00:37:47
Speaker
I can take a chopping up, you know, Texas Chainsaw Massacre style. But the hacksaw is just such a fucking brutal weapon. That or like a sawzall.
00:37:59
Speaker
One of the evil dead someone uses like, ah fuck, I forgot a turkey carver, whatever it's called. i think don't know if that's exactly the word for it.
00:38:09
Speaker
I know what you're talking about. don't know the proper term. Yeah, I don't know the proper term, but I get it. Yeah, it's a hacksaw, though. That's got to take the cake.
00:38:20
Speaker
I mean, goddammit, Damien Leone. I think what makes it worse too is the fact that all the weapons that Art is using in here are fucking dull and rusted. and that That just adds to the goriness of all of his kills. and Then he always manages to ah create a weapon filled with multiple devices so there was like scissors razors all these little incision incision knives knives on there um just so he can whip it at all of his victims that alone is you just ow yeah i i like the i'm not gonna say like this because it's so yes you do it's very weird thing to like i like it for art the character
00:39:18
Speaker
And his kills. But but the the needle that he has that he injects into people, that's a very unique touch. eight rate jump The date rape drug, essentially. That's why I didn't want to commit to saying I liked it.
00:39:35
Speaker
ah but like It's very, oh it's it's somehow one of the worst actions art's done is, and it's very violating. it It also reminds me of the poster of this movie Audition, the Japanese horror film.
00:39:52
Speaker
Have you seen Audition? I have. that was a ah was traumatized after watching that. I couldn't focus for a good week or so. That's one I would really like to cover on the podcast one day.
00:40:06
Speaker
We can do it. We can do it. Yeah, if we do like a Japanese horror season or figure out some type of theme to work it in. We'll get there. Yeah, guys, check out Audition if you haven't.
00:40:18
Speaker
Yeah, I did enjoy the little touch of him having something unique like a needle. I did want to ask you, what did you think happened to that first pizzeria guy?
00:40:29
Speaker
What do you think Art did to that man? He's just a head on like a stovetop burner. So that's the thing, too. I've been noticing that almost every kill he does, he does something to their eyes, whether he pokes their eyes, um shoots them near the eye, you know, an eyeball is missing. So he probably carved out an eye. i think it's an easy special effect to do.
00:40:56
Speaker
True, that makes sense. um Best case scenario, he choked this guy to his death at first, so maybe he didn't experience all of the carving and detailed work on his face to basically make him a jack-o'-lantern, but...
00:41:13
Speaker
Seeing that part really made me so uncomfortable. Just the little slits in his eyes and then the the light um illuminating through the eye sockets and his mouth.
00:41:26
Speaker
That was so gross. It was a creative kill, though. There's a chance Art suffocated him first. He's been known to use cellophane or, you know, maybe he knocked him unconscious, injected him with something.
00:41:41
Speaker
I have a feeling Art sawed his head off when he was alive or something.
Favorite Kills
00:41:45
Speaker
That happens to the one of the pest control guys later in the movie who just shows up just to get...
00:41:54
Speaker
I think one of the most horrific and best looking kills of the whole movie where art like stabs something through the top of his head and then just starts sawing off his head. that Was that your favorite kill out of the movie though?
00:42:09
Speaker
I don't know if I would put it at my favorite. It might be my favorite because it was so good looking. It was so effective. And it wasn't the most obscenely horrific kill.
00:42:25
Speaker
True. i had I almost had to look away a couple times. that it was very It looked very good, I thought. Yeah, just seeing like how his eyes were just rolling all around once he was stabbed in the head.
00:42:38
Speaker
just Just remember or recall all the times that you've banged your head on something or you fell and hit your head. So this man had a fucking knife stabbed into his cranium.
00:42:51
Speaker
That had to fucking suck. I know, man. ah When you put it that way, no I do, yes, for the listeners. i Right when we started recording, the worst headache I had started, but it started it's not as bad anymore. But man, when you put it that way, like imagining being hit in the head, I've taken very hard hits to the head. I took I like stood up very quickly and bumped my head on a steel like garbage compactor door and my head started bleeding.
00:43:25
Speaker
That was one of the most painful bumps to my head I've ever gotten. That's why I talk so slow, listeners. It was that head injury. At least we know why.
00:43:37
Speaker
yeah That's a good story to go along with that. That was funny. Yeah. Yeah, that's not actually why, but I do tell people that. One question that I wanted to ask you was, how do you, well, how am I asking
Art's Unsettling Behavior
00:43:54
Speaker
this?
00:43:54
Speaker
How do you feel about Art's mannerism and behavior when he, um just in this film in total, like, let's start with that first.
00:44:08
Speaker
I really enjoy it. he He gets very angry and has a lot of like human moments. You see him get hurt, and he really shows that he gets hurt.
00:44:21
Speaker
That did catch me off guard. I expected him to be a bit more silly, just because the art that I've seen on social media and in videos, pictures, the...
00:44:32
Speaker
Art iconography is a bit more silly, and I've been exposed to him outside of this movie. So it did catch me off guard, but I do really ah like the silly mannerisms that he has in this. he doesn't The angry brooding thing doesn't fully work for me, but I dig art.
00:44:53
Speaker
Do you know what I mean by angry brooding? He does seem ah angrier in this one, kind of, or more human, rather. He does, and um i agree with you on that because since I was watching reviews of this and, um like you said, seeing him um in you know more of a silly ah aspect or lighting, I should say,
00:45:19
Speaker
It was disturbing to see him in here, especially because when he ultimately kills that homeless woman, or they call her Cat Lady, I think, in here, he scalps her so he can have her hair on him, and then he...
00:45:37
Speaker
carves out her chest so he can um have her breasts on his chest. And he was naked at that part just a full of victoria um to to make her seem like he was her sister in ah dire need of her help.
00:45:54
Speaker
But when he starts... walking up the stairs looking for Victoria, he's walking in such a dainty yes way. and He kind of is just flowing and just doing these weird little fluid movements, kind of like a ballerina type of deal, and just like flipping his hair.
00:46:17
Speaker
he looked so fucking scary at that point to me because the lighting on him, it kind of... you know, highlighted all of his facial features and it just looks so fucking scary. that That's all I could say. So him just moving in that type of um setting, I guess, it just really freaked me out.
00:46:43
Speaker
So him, he he was a lot more scary in here than I thought he would be. yeah The first time I saw that scene, I didn't actually realize. At first, I thought he was wearing Tara as a skin suit. I didn't realize he was naked.
00:46:59
Speaker
You don't see his dick at all, right? You who don't. or You see something, but um yeah i they area. darken that area I was wondering, I didn't like fully pay attention to, I didn't catch it too much, but I was wondering if he was doing like ah Buffalo Bill Silence of the Limes.
00:47:21
Speaker
Silence of the Limes.
00:47:25
Speaker
and Maybe it's like Silence of the Lambs, Buffalo Bill style. ah He was tucking his private areas down. I could i didn't fully clock what was happening.
00:47:38
Speaker
He could have. The movie was too upsetting to really pay attention for genitals. It's not fun like the the Charles franchise. I was going to say, you were so so determined to see Chucky's genitals, but you don't want to see Art's genitals. Yes.
00:47:53
Speaker
No, no real interest. It's because Chucky's a doll, isn't it? Yeah, I'm curious about Chucky's genitals. Art's genitals feel threatening. Okay, i i will I will give you that one.
00:48:09
Speaker
Are there any other sections we want to talk about? What do you think about Tara and Art's fight? Do you have any thoughts on that? or We haven't really talked about the Victoria section either.
00:48:22
Speaker
Um, so when Tara calls Victoria, she is over um at school. I guess she's studying for an exam. So she does decide to go help ah try to pick up Tara and Don. So when she does get there, um Art's already having his way with these women. And Her dumb ass tries to go up to the building to find them.
00:48:46
Speaker
I'm not going to go fucking look for someone if they are calling me to pick them up in the middle of the night, damn near ah early ass in the morning.
Character Critiques
00:48:55
Speaker
If you are not where you're supposed to be, I'm going to leave you. I'm sorry if that sounds mean, but I'm not going to go fucking look for you.
00:49:04
Speaker
i thought you were saying you were going to call the police or something. No, fuck that. There is no one on the street. And I think that's what makes these films even more disturbing to watch because um i know they're low budget films, so they don't have a lot of extras. But the fact that you don't really see other people on the street.
00:49:24
Speaker
uh where they're at you just feel that much more secluded in those areas so knowing that no one is around you don't see your sister or her friend in the car that they're supposed to be at you're gonna go fucking get out in the middle of the night and by this random ass building to go look for them and then you see dawn's scarecrow hat on the ground And then apparently Art knows how to use phones and knows how to text. So he texts us that they're in the back or something.
00:49:55
Speaker
So she goes in the back to look for them and then ultimately goes inside of this damn building to go look for them. Fuck you. I'm not going to search for him or search for them. No, go away. You did point out something that I find that I now find interesting is this movie doesn't have any extras. Everybody who's on camera is a speaking role.
00:50:17
Speaker
who Yeah, so you literally get that feeling throughout the whole film that there are only one or two people per scene, forgetting that you know you have a whole crew watching them and you know setting up the entire scene in general, but um you really feel like you're alone ah watching this person. So i keep saying it, it just adds more intensity to the scenes.
00:50:45
Speaker
it It creates a ah creepy atmosphere. Yeah, exactly. So it sounds like you may have friends who could potentially be murdered by Art the Clown then. Yeah, I mean, you're... Sounds like they shouldn't call you if they have a clown problem on their hands. you're dumb enough Well, think about it. You have... Before anything happened to Tara and Dodd, Tara kept saying she had to go to the bathroom.
00:51:11
Speaker
So she goes to bother the... janitor or whoever it is taking care of the building um a pest control guy i wrote down in my notes 45 times that he was a custodian but and then later twice at the end i have pest control guy in parentheses by the way i liked his character a lot i like that they called him a creep and made fun of him and he was actually like a kind of a nice guy yeah And that was the thing, too, because um she asked him to use the bathroom after saying no, he does let her go in there. And then he's telling her, yeah, you know, there are rats in here. And he's trying to make sure the bathroom is clear of all these rodents. And she's actually the one that's making conversation with him. OK, well, what if one comes out of the toilet?
00:52:01
Speaker
Bitch, that's your problem at that point. um But he, you know, at first was standing a little too close to her for my liking when he... when they were talking about that, but then he was just, well, you know, I'd better make it quick. And he starts walking away.
00:52:17
Speaker
But then, yeah, they try to make him seem as if he's a bit of a creeper because he turns around and he looks at her asking, do you want me to wait for you? And she... She said, no, I'm fine.
00:52:29
Speaker
And yeah, he walks away. So you're thinking, okay, is he going to do something to her? Is he going to, I don't know, try to stalk her after that? But he doesn't. He goes and does his thing.
00:52:39
Speaker
So you feel bad when, you know, he gets attacked by art. But after she uses the bathroom, her dumb ass wants to go explore this building Do you not realize that you left your friend outside who, yeah, is a dumb ass piece of garbage for getting drunk enough where you guys can't drive home.
00:52:58
Speaker
But I'm not going to go explore an abandoned building by myself for one or possibly ever for that point. But yeah you have I mentioned how dumb these girls are in here? I'm sorry. Yeah.
00:53:13
Speaker
They are. They like fucking exploring and getting lost and backing themselves into corners with Art the Clown coming. Dawn also, too. Lock your fucking doors. It's Halloween night. and Like the middle of the night, you're listening to a radio station station talking about how the pizza place you were just at, two people were just brutally murdered.
00:53:37
Speaker
And you're like, I think I'm safe here to be alone with my doors unlocked on this street. It's like, for fuck's sake. you're Also, you have a flat tire. You're calling a lift and dealing with that tomorrow.
00:53:51
Speaker
Right, exactly. if you're drunk with a flat tire. I don't care wherever I'm Now I have it instilled in me. If I drive somewhere and someone's with me and I'm waiting for them in the car, I just lock my doors once they once they get out. Or if I'm somewhere and I park, I automatically lock my doors just because of fucking movies like this. Anyone can open the door and climb right in.
00:54:18
Speaker
Nope, not having that chance. I had, this is a true story, I had three people get in, one guy actually got into my car, two guys came around the other side and tried to open the door. I locked it in time for those other two to not get in on the other side, but some guy fully made it in my car, and three people tried to rob me back in about, I think this was 2006, no, 2018, think no two thousand and eighteen What the fuck? Where were you at?
00:54:48
Speaker
I was in our like hometown over... I don't want to say the name of the place, but there's You don't have to. i won't get into all the details, but yeah, I was able to get out of that situation like somewhat unharmed.
00:55:04
Speaker
Holy shit, that's scary. Yeah. Bad idea leaving your doors unlocked in the middle of the night, especially I mean... i mean I don't know. Maybe some people didn't grow up where that's just what you were taught. You just lock your doors.
00:55:22
Speaker
I mean, i I go to people's houses sometimes and they never lock their front door. Yeah, that, i don't know how. it it was a little funny because um the the town that our high school was in was like labeled the bad town or whatever compared to the little suburb that I was in. um and i remember I had my friend with me and his friend along with him who I was...
00:55:54
Speaker
about to date at the time, I guess. um But they came home or they came to my house with me and my mom, she would always have ah the door open.
00:56:04
Speaker
But if she had the screen door just, um you know, close, she had that locked, but she had it unlocked because she knew I was coming home. So we were walking inside and me and my one buddy were going upstairs. And then when I look back, the second guy was just asking me, um you're going to leave your door open.
00:56:23
Speaker
And we were both laughing a little bit like, yeah, we we do that out here. And he was just so shocked by it because out in um the city of our high school, which is where he lived at, they could never leave their door, their door open like that. So um but now, no matter what, I'm always locking my doors because fuck people.
00:56:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's a real state of Indiana thing, leaving your door unlocked and wide open. It's like, a look, I get you guys are allowed to have guns, but fucking chill out, okay? yeah Close your door. If my screen door is open, or like, if my main door is open, the screen door is locked.
00:57:05
Speaker
Oh, yeah, definitely. I can't leave both doors open. That's, nope, not a good time in the world for that. Yeah, I live right off a major road where random people are just walking back and forth all the time.
00:57:19
Speaker
so Yeah. Yeah.
Real-Life Safety Lessons
00:57:22
Speaker
Yeah. So moral of the story is kids, lock your fucking doors. Even when you're in your house, lock your door. Are you one of those people that sleep with a door, your room door open?
00:57:34
Speaker
who can Who does that? Yeah, have movies taught you anything? And we get it. We live in the state that Halloween takes place. You know, that the killer comes to you in those movies.
00:57:47
Speaker
I get it. But it still just feels irresponsible to not just take that precaution. So you don't get Art the Clowned or Michael Myersed. Exactly.
00:57:58
Speaker
um I honestly don't know how anyone can feel comfortable in their home without having a door locked. Yeah. So Dawn should have locked her car doors. maybe Did she deserve her death?
00:58:12
Speaker
Honestly, probably not. Yes. don't think anyone. I'm going to talk you down from that. I'm going to try to. Okay, please try to talk me down from it. She hacksawed in half while hanging upside down.
00:58:26
Speaker
Does anyone deserve that? Does anyone deserve that? She does because her dumbass got too drunk, left her friend hanging like that, then went up to a fucking stranger to go sit on his lab just to get a picture and then doesn't even give a shit that her friend is Visibly uncomfortable and then is telling her, oh, go pop a squat in the alley so you can go to the bathroom. Then she's yelling to the the exterminator guy.
00:58:56
Speaker
ah she'll make it worth your while if you ah let her use bathroom. And then and not being aware of her surroundings in the car, just trying to take more pictures of herself. And then hears about Art the Clown and his murders on the radio and then didn't fucking lock her doors. so that gave the Art the opportunity to enter the car and then have his way with her.
00:59:19
Speaker
She was stupid. She was dumb. She deserved to die. Well, it sounds like Dawn did suggest peeing in the alleyway, which probably would have avoided half of these problems. They would have never split up.
00:59:32
Speaker
They wouldn't have, probably, but they were both stupid. And because Dawn was the shitty character in here, she deserved to die. ah um what about What about by like lethal injection, though? Does it have to be hacksaw from vagina to face?
00:59:52
Speaker
We all know that you're a fan of the d*** in here. I'm not a fan of the d***. Don't tell people that. That's not true. good It's not true, guys. I'm just f***ing with him. It's really not true. I'm talking about what we use to kill dogs.
01:00:11
Speaker
Wow. Why'd you have to go that route? Why did you have to say it like that? what Don't you know I have a dog? ah Yeah, I have a dog too. Yeah, but I'm sensitive to that subject here. i have two dogs, actually. So I love dogs more than you.
01:00:27
Speaker
But by too I'm just waiting for you to start saying, you know how much shit you talk about your dog? Do you really love your dog? Yeah, exactly. Well, well no, you missed that opportunity. So you can't say it now. You can't use that. You said it for me.
01:00:42
Speaker
Well, you can't use it. It's invalid here. I could just edit out you saying it and then make it sound like you never said it and I was the first one. Well, too bad. Anyway. Yeah, I don and don't fudge with the documents like that.
01:00:59
Speaker
I just like that um it reminds me of Audition mostly. it's You don't see it too much. It's a very creepy, upsetting, and effective thing for a horror movie. Not in real life. Nothing in real life like that.
01:01:12
Speaker
Probably going cut all of that out. i don't um I genuinely am sorry for making you feel uncomfortable. or is It's okay. I forgive you. Everybody knows that we're kidding.
01:01:26
Speaker
And honestly, it was the funniest part of the podcast. Yeah, probably. but um yeah Ultimately, Dawn deserved her death. and Did she deserve the way that she died in here I would say yes.
01:01:44
Speaker
i i'm so You think she deserved the hacksaw all the way through? She did. i think she even deserved to be cut all the way through, not just hanging on by a thread there.
01:01:58
Speaker
She deserved it. That hurts just thinking about it. Oh, man. It does. And I'm the woman here. I really thought. Good point.
01:02:09
Speaker
I really thought I was going to convince you. That is good point. You you are the woman here. I never thought about it that way. You know, it's funny, though. um I already have not an argument, but an argument per se ah prepared for part two that i am interested in hearing your ah thoughts on. So we'll and it's similar to this. So we'll see about it when we get there.
01:02:35
Speaker
I might watch part two today. I'm really just fucking marathon marathon and through these since we're, we're recording these past two episodes pretty close together for the listeners. But yeah, I'm, this is a good series to marathon.
01:02:50
Speaker
They're not that long and they, and don't know, but again, maybe you could cut out all hollows. Even though, no offense to Damien Leone have a great respect for you, but,
01:03:02
Speaker
You could marathon this trilogy pretty pretty easily, knock it out in a day, have a pretty good time. Watch it on Christmas time, every Christmas. Yeah, ter exactly.
01:03:13
Speaker
It's funny because everyone always asks me, like how are you going to watch horror movies around Christmas time? It's like, okay, well, you know how many movies are um based during the Christmas season that are horror movies?
01:03:30
Speaker
You have plenty to choose from. So this is now one of them in your face. Even just snowy ah Christmas movies. And there's an argument that one of the entries in here is a Christmas movie. So by default, you could just marathon the whole thing at Christmas.
01:03:48
Speaker
Exactly. It's Harry Potter. you know Some of it's at Christmas, so they're Christmas movies. Some of Terrifier's Christmas, so they're Christmas movies. This a Christmas series.
01:04:00
Speaker
And for all of those who live the lifestyle of every day is Halloween, they could be an everyday movie, an all year round type of movie. Is Terrifier 2 Thanksgiving movie?
01:04:12
Speaker
That's what I'm wondering. ah No, it is a Halloween movie. damnmit They had an opportunity there to get the three holidays in a row. because see This is a Halloween movie. and three i mean We've already alluded to Christmas.
01:04:28
Speaker
Two should be Thanksgiving. Why is two not Thanksgiving? Because Halloween triumphs over every holiday. i don't know, man. Art could be dressed up as a pilgrim. There could be some commentary done with that.
01:04:43
Speaker
But who wants to dress up as a pilgrim when you can dress up as something creepy? Pilgrims are arguably creepy. They're horrific. They, you know, are responsible for genocide, right?
01:04:58
Speaker
Sure, let's go with that. They could be creepy. Real life horror. of We need more Thanksgiving movies for our Thanksgiving season. Damn it. We only have Thanksgiving. That's only one I can think of.
01:05:12
Speaker
We can use the film You're Next. It's not really a Thanksgiving film, but you know it's in winter, so we can say that could be a Thanksgiving movie.
01:05:24
Speaker
Your next great movie. Well, definitely. That'll be one to cover on the podcast because that movie needs some championing. People, I think, have forgotten it. Adam Wingard has went on to do those goddamn Godzilla Kong movies, much like ah Brian Tyree Henry we were talking about. They work together. There's a link to be made there.
01:05:45
Speaker
But, yeah, he's been fucking working on those movies. People need to be talking about Your Next, not Godzilla Kong. Yeah, I'm actually surprised about how many people don't know about this movie.
01:05:59
Speaker
It also got a lot of hate when it came out. I know a lot of people that don't like it, and I honestly don't understand it. It's one of the best home invasion movies I think I've seen. I think it's better than Strangers, and ah Strangers is more popular movie. Your Next is like thrilling.
01:06:13
Speaker
Really? i They're very different vibes. Strangers is like very upsetting. Your Next is kind of fun. It is, but have has anyone shared why they don't like Year Next with you?
01:06:29
Speaker
No, I've just heard from friends over the years when it gets brought up, they're like, oh, that movie sucks. There's a couple movies that have had a reputation like that as I've gotten older. A lot of people like I've known growing up have said they thought Cloverfield sucked, and they always just point to the found footage camera aspect, and Yeah, you could hate the genre, but that's not really full-on criticism of the movie. I love Cloverfield.
01:06:58
Speaker
I love found footage in general, though. i do, too. And I haven't seen Cloverfield, so I do need to watch that. Maybe for the pod. I would like to do Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane.
01:07:10
Speaker
um was thinking about a monster series at some point, getting like classic Godzilla. I would love you to watch. The shirt I'm actually wearing right now, Shin Godzilla, that movie fucking rules. That goes hard. Godzilla minus one, the original King Kong, Peter Jackson, King Kong, and then um things like the movie we were just talking about.
01:07:32
Speaker
Hell yeah. We'll make it happen. have some type of monster series. But then 10 Cloverfield Lane is a monster movie in a different way, but that might end up needing to go in a different type of season.
01:07:46
Speaker
Or we could just do the Cloverfields. If we have a two-movie series we want to knock out. Or if we want to do three movies and watch the shit shitty Cloverfield 2, which I'm fine if we don't watch Cloverfield Paradox.
01:07:57
Speaker
All right, sounds good. Any final thoughts on the first Terrifier film? I guess I kind of want to just talk about Victoria and her ending a little bit.
Ending Speculations
01:08:10
Speaker
yeah Basically, Art terrorizes Victoria the She runs into a shed. Art crashes through it in a truck. ah Again, another thing that happens in All Hallows' Eve, Art Drives. It feels very Michael Myers. I don't mind it, actually. It felt weird in All Hallows' Eve, but I don't mind him driving and using a handgun.
01:08:30
Speaker
It feels really sloppy, and I like that he's kind of sloppy in this movie. feel like he's going to get more sadistic, fucked up, and theatrical in the sequels. But...
01:08:42
Speaker
he bursts through, knocks her unconscious, and then the police come in. He munches on Victoria's face. It's so fucked up. And then he puts a bullet in his head and ends up at the coroner's office with ah the pest control guy whose face got smashed in.
01:09:00
Speaker
And ultimately... You think he's dead, but he the lights flicker. He comes back to life a little bit and strangles the corner, and the movie ends there.
01:09:12
Speaker
i found it to be pretty cool. I like the ending. I didn't need the little button with Victoria at the end. It was good to see her face. It didn't look that great, but it's nice to know she's sticking around.
01:09:25
Speaker
I mean, she really shouldn't be sticking around. She doesn't have much to Look forward to. Yeah, I know a little bit about her character, and I find her very interesting.
01:09:37
Speaker
yeah I'm not a fan of her character. i'm excited to see what happens in 2. What did happen in 2 with her? Oh, yeah. Okay. Let me not spoil it. But anyway, so um I found it amusing when art was in the truck and he just crashes through the doors and he's just dancing along to the music playing on the radio. That that brought it back to a little humor with him not just being super fucking sadistic. he He is still being playful, even though he just rode on a little tricycle not too long before that. Oh, that was so creepy. And the tricycle sitting there with him not riding it and it's on its side. I was oh my God. That was the scariest part of the movie for me.
01:10:24
Speaker
Yeah, it was so fucking creepy. With him just you know being in his little playful mood again, but then coming out, going up to Victoria's body, and then just eating bits of her face, I did not fucking expect that. So when you're hearing all the sound effects of him eating her face, that was so disgusting. And you see him putting chunks in his mouth too. Yeah.
01:10:48
Speaker
Yeah. Isn't it when like the cops show up, there's like a piece hanging from his mouth or something. i had to turn away at that point. This is why we warn you guys don't watch this movie while you're eating. I mean, if you have a strong stomach, go for it, but not for me. I I'll pass on that.
01:11:06
Speaker
um Yeah. I couldn't do it. Not for a terrifier. All Hallows Eve. I think I could have done it, but not this one. Yeah, that was that was just an ending I was not expecting. um Even though they do show Victoria's character, um i just didn't expect her face to turn out like that because he's fucking eating her face.
01:11:25
Speaker
So it was just such a different extreme to go from him just you know jamming out in the truck to being that brutal with her. this guy, he just he's relentless.
01:11:39
Speaker
He's pretty fucked up, this Art the Clown guy. Now, I'm wondering how he survived that bullet to the head. Part of me was thinking, is that a theatrical gun? Was there ah fake bullet in there? and I mean, there would be some on-the-scene investigation probably to make sure he's actually dead. So i'm I'm excited to see what happens, how they justify him being alive in part two.
01:12:04
Speaker
Well, I mean, to me, just from this one, it sounds like he or it looks like he is having some or he has some supernatural powers within him because when the coroner opens his um his body bag, he is looking at him in his direction. And then with the all the power and electrical shit just flickering on and off, I'm thinking, OK, that's All the evil within him is just sparking up everything.
01:12:37
Speaker
And that could be the only reason he's alive, in my opinion. That's at least what I got from that part. Yeah, I was wondering if he started off Supernatural or if he becomes Supernatural as the series goes on.
01:12:54
Speaker
I'm still not too sure what Art's full deal is. And I have a feeling Terrifier 2 is really going to expand on the lore of Art the Clown. That's the thing that I'm the most excited about with these horror movies is because I know that this has a reputation for having lore.
01:13:12
Speaker
And I... Love that we have horror with lore back in it. It's cool. There's like, it seems like there's going to be a history to art and whether it's rich or not, I find it really cool. And I'm so excited to see what Damien Leone does with this story. I'm,
01:13:31
Speaker
Terrifier 4. I'm ready for it. i was I was thinking about this earlier, actually. He could end up being like Sam Raimi when he was on Army of Darkness in his career.
01:13:44
Speaker
Because at this point, Damien Leone, he's he's done his Army of Darkness. He's on his third of his franchise that he's created and has developed this really cult-like fan base around.
01:13:57
Speaker
And I'm wondering if we're seeing the next Sam Raimi and years from now, if he will be in charge of like, maybe not a superhero movie, cause that's all Marvel and DC, but if he'll go to the levels of directing ah Spider-Man and completely redefining blockbuster filmmaking or doing something pivotal with cinema or something that really connects with wide audiences i have no idea what his career is going to be like but i'm fucking on board for him now it's it's really exciting he may live in terrifier land for the rest of his career and i'm okay with that but he's here and welcome fucking damien leone
01:14:44
Speaker
Hell, yes. After seeing the third one, it really got me hyped up for the next one. and i believe that's the one where Damien Leone said was going to be the last Terrifier film.
01:15:00
Speaker
Terrifier 4? Yes. He at one point said- I want six of these things. I think he said he wanted to do about four or five of them, but I feel like I read somewhere that Terrifier 4 would be the last one.
01:15:15
Speaker
ah could be wrong. Guys you who do your research better than I do, help us out here. Is Terrifier 4 going to be the last one or will we get about six of these like Nicholas wants here?
01:15:28
Speaker
Let us know. Yeah, ah hopefully. I mean, if he's like, I've got four stories and I'm ending it there, totally cool. Get out while you're ahead.
01:15:39
Speaker
Don't bleed this thing dry. But if there's room to do six, i'm i welcome it. If he doesn't feel like he can, if he can't justify it that's cool. But if there's room for it, let's let's go.
01:15:52
Speaker
Six terrifiers. But again, maybe he wants to do other things with his career. i'd I'd be very interested to see what other ideas he may or may not have or what he's even interested in doing.
01:16:04
Speaker
i I find him fascinating. And these movies I'm so intrigued by. Yeah, I'd be interested to see if Damien Leone is able to create another slasher or just another horror movie in general that can kind of compare to the standards of Terrifier 2 and 3.
01:16:31
Speaker
So yeah, let's let's just stay tuned and see what else he has in store for us. Hell yeah, guys. And if you enjoyed this episode, remember to rate and review us five stars on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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Speaker
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01:17:01
Speaker
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