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Seed of Chucky
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they welcome Chucky and Tiffany's twisted(?) offspring into the world! They're talking about Seed of Chucky!
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Discussing AI-Generated Clips
00:01:12
Speaker
What's up, everybody? We are back here with Morbid Curiosities. I am Mercedes Martinez, and with me is my awesome co-host, the nefarious nomad, the numbing nightmare, your next-door necromancer.
00:01:27
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Nicholas Ewers. Let's go. That's such a cool name. Necromancer. I love it. i could get used to it. I really could.
00:01:38
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um The AI clips that are generated for us on Zencaster, it's takeaway. It produced some clips. Maybe I'll post them on our Instagram
Nickname Fun and Audience Engagement
00:01:49
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if the listener's got to really want it, though.
00:01:51
Speaker
But um yeah it's takeaway from that was the noodle section from our last episode. It didn't have any of the previous... um You know, this is our Child's Play 3 episode, I guess I'm referencing, but it didn't have like any of the cool parts in the clip. It didn't have the thunderous applause that I put under Mercedes saying my nickname.
00:02:15
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It just had the noodle section, like a 10 second clip. So I was like, even ai is, ah you know, gravitating towards that. So I think you inadvertently
Instagram and Chucky Series Update
00:02:27
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started a thing.
00:02:29
Speaker
The noodle is where it's at. And you know what's funny too? I didn't even know that you were planning on putting the applause for when I said your name. And when I heard it, I was just looking at my phone like, what the fuck did he just do so But that was that was a good little bit. I love that.
00:02:50
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Nice. Yeah, I almost texted you that. I was putting it in there, but I was like, you know, I want to see if... like I want you to kind of find it out on your own or or discover it naturally.
00:03:05
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And then when you started the noodle stuff, I was going to put in like some kind of like wah-wah, but I didn't want you to think that I was making fun of you as opposed to the name, so I was like, I'm just not going to put in that. I was like, I'll let...
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people judge the name on their own, which they're all going to love the noodle. What do you guys think? Should I just take away all of Nick's um nicknames that I gave him and just go with Noodle?
00:03:34
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Acknowledge him as Noodle from now on? What do you guys think? ah Let us know. i If they like the Noodle, you got yeah i'll I'll take it.
00:03:45
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um I'll be the martyr. But you get you've got to keep Next Door Necromancer in there. Okay, I could figure that out.
00:03:57
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Yeah, I
Nicholas' Childhood Chucky Trauma
00:03:58
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think that's a good compromise. Okay, deal. Let's go with that. Let's see what the what the listeners want. hell yeah the i can already predict just judging from are like very small but like cool instagram like following i can already tell which way it's it's gonna sway at this point um but go follow us on instagram guys yeah morbid curiosities pod
00:04:31
Speaker
So, listeners who have been with us, you know, for a while, you're probably already aware, new listeners, we are right now in the middle of covering the Child's Play, the Chucky movies. um This episode is dropping the day before April Fool's Day. You're, you know, going to be seeing that we're covering Seed of Chucky. Before we get into that, have a happy April Fool's Day. Yeah.
00:04:55
Speaker
yeah have a great april fool's day pull a prank on a friend you know this section you might have noticed the edit the little prank was pulled on you guys i'd cut a bunch of shit out seed of chucky going ahead spoilers for this movie i know took a while to get there guys this is why you know it's just the build-up it's all about the build-up you know but Mercedes, you go first. I like had to bite my tongue. I was about to explode.
00:05:27
Speaker
um You go first. what What are your initial thoughts on Seed of Chucky? What's your relationship to this movie? We've had a pretty like, you know, we we've been known on the podcast to hate Seed of Chucky and we've had some pretty aggressive texts exchanged about this movie and i I don't want to speak for both of us, but I can say for myself, um I was very excited for this episode.
00:05:57
Speaker
Now that we're here, I'm like giddy. you But what are you? Just talk, talk. Tell me, tell me. so you got chuck Give me the biz.
00:06:10
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So, trying to remember when I saw this film, or at least when it came out, I was 12. So, that was really awkward. um So, it was directed by Don Mancini and then um ah released in 2004. Yeah.
00:06:31
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So I remember the trailer. You had also sent me the trailer earlier too. and i had completely forgotten about the trailer, but watching it reminded me of how stupid i thought it was.
00:06:46
Speaker
even going back to bride um i feel like i'm gonna reference bride of chucky a lot too just because these two movies go hand in hand going back to bride just that ending when you know tiffany is giving birth to a baby i did not like that um oh you didn't did we talk about that i loved that birth scene I like it's cool the concept that they had a kid but i think it was just like the gory noises or the squishy squishy noises that's so what I don't like. um It didn't appeal to the ASMR like itch it was like kind of the opposite direction.
00:07:30
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. That's like how it's like scratching nails on a Yeah, nails on a chalkboard sound. I've got that with the scraping of styrofoam, actually, or the rubbing of styrofoam up against each other. Yeah, it creates this like sound that ah it makes me want to rip my skin off.
Comparing 'Child's Play 3' and 'Seed of Chucky'
00:07:52
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Ew, yeah. Yeah. that I'm not a fan of the squelching noises, and you hear that in this movie too. um But yeah, watching the trailer again, even the um the font they used when they were talking about... you know I forgot everything that was in the trailer, what they put in there, but the font did not match the movie.
00:08:18
Speaker
And then the Chucky baby that is in this trailer looks nothing like the kid we get in this movie. um i i first when I watched it, however, or whenever it was, um because I don't know if I really did watch it when I was 12. I probably did.
00:08:42
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I was just, what the fuck, the entire time. um So watching it now, I can at least laugh at it a little more, but I'm still thinking what the fuck the entire time. But what about you? You said you had a story to go along with this, right?
00:09:03
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book Before my story, I want to know, how does this rank against Child's Play 3? Not to spoil our ah future ranking of this franchise, but so which would you say is the better film for you? Which did you enjoy more?
00:09:23
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I would say this one just because at least there's some comedy in there that you can laugh at and they do have a plot that they you know attempt to stick with. And even though I think it's kind of stupid at times, at many times,
00:09:46
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Child's Play 3 was just flat out fucking boring. um Very dry. So at least with this one, you got some good characters in there, ah at least some memorable characters.
00:09:59
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um Very, very interesting death scenes. One is a creative one. um So yes, I would rank this one over Child's Play 3. Cool, cool.
00:10:12
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um Yeah, Child's Play 3 fucking sucks. If you guys haven't listened to that episode, go go check that out to hear some of our thoughts on that one. um Yeah, I came into this with ah this episode with a story that I may have been hyping up a little too much.
00:10:31
Speaker
So I sent you that trailer for a reason. um The teaser trailer for Seed of Chucky. i Back in whatever year this movie came out, I went to the movie theater. This was the summer of that year.
00:10:47
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So summer of 2004, I'm at a friend's birthday party and we're all going to see, it was my friend Michael. ah We are all went to see Spider-Man 2. I think they might have rented out a theater, but it was all we were seeing Spider-Man 2, directed by Sam Raimi. Horror director Sam Raimi. I don't know if you guys are familiar. This movie actually, Spider-Man 2 actually does have a very scary, like hor horrific sequence with Dr. Octopus in the hospital where he's murdering all of these like nurses and surgeons and shit.
00:11:21
Speaker
It's really scary, and that did, like, unsettle me as a kid. It's great. But, um... So, watching... I'm a little kid sitting in the theater just ready for Spider-Man 2. I've never been more excited for a movie in my life. Spider-Man is my favorite superhero.
00:11:40
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I'm in, like, fourth grade, maybe. uh, yeah, so I'm older than I probably should be for this story. But... um I'm sitting there next to my mom, too.
00:11:54
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And, you know, this trailer's coming for the listeners. There's, like, a baby. It's, like, an ultrasound of a baby there. And it's, like, bluish green or whatever. And it's, like, got these, like, subtitles that's, like, a newborn baby, this and that, blah, blah, blah.
00:12:12
Speaker
And then the baby's head turns, and it's... just like Chucky's face. Now in retrospect, a very shitty rendering of Chucky's face on a very shitty rendering of a baby.
00:12:26
Speaker
It doesn't even look good. It doesn't even look scary at all. But... This scared the living shit out of me. And I couldn't sleep for what felt like a month or months. And like my mom had to sit next to me in bed and,
Critiquing 'Seed of Chucky' Subplots
00:12:45
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like not in my bed, but like next to my bed and wait for me to fall asleep. i like This trailer traumatized me. It gave me nightmares. And was like...
00:12:56
Speaker
The whole reason I've had this hang up with Chucky and have not had any interest in my life in watching the Chucky movies at all. I've like had this resentment baked in against seed of Chucky.
00:13:11
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And I that's why when I found out Chucky gets funny, i was like, he gets funny fuck that i was afraid of this guy for like it seriously like traumatized me on a certain level to where even like as an adult before going into this i was like finally doing this chucky thing you know quietly to myself and uh Yeah, it's just, it's so embarrassing now, like, seeing this trailer and being like this, like, the face is not the face that I remembered, like, when I was a kid.
00:13:50
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it It was, like, so amplified and so much more scary as a kid, and it's It sucks. I'll try to remember to post that trailer on our Instagram page for the listeners the day that this episode drops or like the week that this episode drops so you guys can all see ah what really fucked with me as a kid.
00:14:11
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um i i know that was a long winded rant. Mercedes, you got any thoughts on any of that? Yeah, I was just trying to not interrupt you because i was thinking that was going to go so many different ways that um none of that I actually expected. i thought you were going to say, oh, since my mom was next to me, she covered my eyes know...
00:14:39
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you know I don't know. I was just
Gender Identity Themes and Glenda
00:14:42
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thinking a bunch of other things and I was laughing because that is what terrified you about Chucky.
00:14:50
Speaker
This bogus ass little baby looking thing that no, it does not look like Chucky and then it doesn't even look like his fucking kid in here. um That was quite the story. I was even going to...
00:15:04
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um Opened that with, you know, this story better be a good story. It better not suck because you were talking about it for the last few episodes, or at least talking to me about it for a while. So I was really hyped. And you know what? I wasn't disappointed in that story. I like that story. You know, the childhood trauma.
00:15:23
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I like it. Yeah, and I can't even properly convey like just how genuinely scary this was. There's two specific moments in childhood that like scared me and kept me up at night to where it's like I needed my mom to be there until I fell asleep. I won't go into the other one, but this is like one of them. And I think part of it, too, is because I was in a safe space.
00:15:49
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I was there to see Spider-Man 2. two Right. You know, it's... And I felt betrayed by the movie theater system.
00:16:00
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um But yeah, i I know now as an adult, I was like, oh, this was directed by Sam Raimi. That's probably why they're putting fucking a Chucky trailer before this. Yeah.
00:16:14
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But yeah, that's the story. Hopefully, hopefully it was podcast worthy.
00:16:21
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Watch people just turned off the episode like fuck this. I haven't really told many people that story at all. Well, it wasn't disappointing. I really liked it. And it's a good intro to this episode, um to the movie.
00:16:37
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So watching the movie now. ended up a bunch of time. That too. um we're We're either going to get done you know whenever we want or it can be a long episode. It can go wherever we want.
00:16:51
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um yeah So what was your take on this movie, watching it now as a grown adult? I gotta say, you know, I faced my fears and I was going into this thing like the torches were out.
00:17:07
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I just much like Frankenstein's monster, you know, Seed of Chucky was afraid of me. um I was coming after it. But ah I gotta say...
00:17:20
Speaker
I kind of love this movie. And not kind of. Really? i I think I love this movie. Yeah. Oh my I think it's going to live in my top three ah of the Chucky movies. If not the top two of these Chucky movies. it's It's right there.
00:17:44
Speaker
I had a blast with this movie. i I thought it was so fun. i thought i I said this before on a different episode.
00:17:56
Speaker
I love a meta take on a movie. And like I pointed to New Nightmare where it's like... they these This movie franchise is bleeding into our reality.
00:18:10
Speaker
And, you know, the lines are getting blurred, but this is like a a meta take on Chucky, and I'm all here for it. I don't know if they continue this route. I'm pretty sure they probably don't.
00:18:25
Speaker
But I found this movie delightful. i ah I think it's kind of cool that Don Mancini has been with this thing since the beginning and that this is his first time directing it. He decided to take it in such a different direction from Bride of Chucky. And Bride of Chucky was such a different direction from the Child's Play movies.
00:18:49
Speaker
Honestly, I'm sitting here wondering, are the next two movies going to be like interesting movies? i i I think there's a chance that these other two movies might be
Speculating on Film Endings
00:19:01
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doing something. I don't know. You have more insight than I do, but man, was I surprised. I thought that i was going I was ready to come into this thing just shitting on Seed of Chucky.
00:19:14
Speaker
But now I'm like, okay, I i got to defend this thing.
00:19:22
Speaker
Wow, that was such a turnaround from your childhood traumatic experience with this. I did not expect for you to say that you love this movie.
00:19:33
Speaker
Wow. Really? um Yeah, because i sure as fuck don't love this movie. What you hate about it? ah
00:19:44
Speaker
So, um and anything I say, it's nothing against um Don Mancini being gay, anyone being gay, nothing about trans people, like nothing is negative from what I'm saying. I know I say I hate women and I hate men and I hate everybody, but just throwing that out there in case, you know, some sensitive Susies listen. And um yeah, but I,
00:20:12
Speaker
What the fuck is with shit face? Out of all the names in the world, that is what they land on for him and... name's not shit face.
00:20:24
Speaker
That's what it starts off as. They call him shit face. They change it. It's Glenn. You're pulling a Charles right now. But they start off with that. No, but they start off with that. If they just started calling him Glenn and then he was saying later on, you know, sometimes I feel like a Glenn or like a Glenda.
00:20:47
Speaker
That would have been better. But no, they had to open it like that. And he doesn't even resemble neither Chucky nor Tiffany.
00:20:58
Speaker
um He has Chucky's eye color, which is actually Brad Dourif's eye color. He looks sickly. He looks ill. He's green. He actually looks like an alien.
00:21:12
Speaker
um and You didn't think he looked like Jennifer Tilly when he was a little redhead boy at the end? At the end, when he's human. I'm kidding. Yes.
00:21:23
Speaker
ah that That was a little better. But here, you know, neither of them are like that greenish, ugly looking color. So why was he That made no sense to me. I get it. It was a voodoo birth, but you know he didn't have to look like that. um so i think you just answered your own question. I feel like this franchise, you can just put voodoo in front of anything and that'll excuse it. It was a
Chucky TV Series and Don Mancini
00:21:54
Speaker
voodoo this, and that's their answer to all of it.
00:21:59
Speaker
yeah It's a voodoo pregnancy. That's why it moves so fast. Not for plot conveniences. Yeah, and then he has his little fucking accent, his little British accent or whatever.
00:22:13
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um so wait there's a reason they did that. Do you want me to tell you? Okay, go into Yeah, go into that because I don't remember. This movie was shot in Europe. I think it might have been for tax reasons. It shot in Romania, specifically. And Don Mancini points this out in the the commentary on the DVD.
00:22:33
Speaker
But most of the actors that they hired, just by default from where they were filming, were English. And he just said, yeah, just inexplicably, they're in L.A., but there's a bunch of people with just English accents everywhere.
00:22:49
Speaker
But... um Yeah, they ah filmed in Romania, actually. So that's why the actor they got to play him, he was actually, I think they said Scottish, but he did a British accent just to go along with the other but British people that were in the movie.
00:23:05
Speaker
Okay, okay. um I don't know. I just think everything that went along with this movie was just pulled from a bunch of different directions.
00:23:16
Speaker
I do like the meta takes on it when you know they have ah Jennifer Tilly um you know trying to get a ah virgin type role and then throughout most of the movies she's just making fun of herself.
00:23:31
Speaker
Apparently a lot of people like that. i I'm half and half on hearing her crack jokes about herself, but... She's specifically going for the Virgin Mary, too.
00:23:43
Speaker
well Yes. I thought that was great. And then the director who's directing this, like, Bible movie is just staring at her breasts the entire time.
00:23:55
Speaker
yeah I love how game she was for this. Like, watching this, I was like, Jennifer Tilly is just having fun a couple years, like, not too long before this. She was just in Bound.
00:24:10
Speaker
I fucking love Bound. Guys, if you haven't seen it, it's the Wachowski's directorial debut right before they hopped into the Matrix trilogy. It's but honestly my favorite movie from them. I like it more than the Matrix movies. It fucking...
00:24:24
Speaker
rules and i love that this movie is referencing bound all the time i'm like what the fuck and it's like kind of funny that that i feel like people probably would say is like one of jennifer tilly's like more like prestige kind of movies it's on the criterion collection i don't know how many movies she's in that are on the criterion collection but i i love that they're like not above bringing that movie down, that she's just so game for all of this.
00:24:58
Speaker
Watching ah both Doc of Chucky and Living with Chucky, she was talking about how you know she did want a decent amount of money to be in these films, but she even called herself a brat. you know I was a brat back then um because Don Mancini and...
00:25:19
Speaker
another a guy working on the film, they gave themselves a pay cut just so they can make sure they had enough to pay for her to... Or pay
Jennifer Tilly's Franchise Impact
00:25:28
Speaker
her to be in her role.
00:25:30
Speaker
But she even said, like even with the bathroom scene where Chucky throws the TV in the tub, she was saying, you know, they they loved everything I did. You know, I had to keep drowning myself so many times, but everyone loved what I did. And, you know, why wouldn't they?
00:25:47
Speaker
So just kind of seeing that little confidence, that confidence that she even had with that, just to say, yeah, they loved what I did. um And then just seeing how she can just make fun of herself endlessly in this film.
00:26:03
Speaker
It's, it's, I'll say it's refreshing. a I don't know, some of the jokes I don't like. i think they're kind of tasteless, but some of them, they could be funny. They have their moments.
00:26:16
Speaker
Speaking of her like making fun of herself, she ah she does that in the commentary too. like The beginning, the opening credits, which I thought were like pretty bad. i thought it was a bad take on like the creation of Chucky, how they usually do the opening credits, but Don Mancini seemed pretty proud of it, so you know good for him, I guess.
00:26:40
Speaker
But Jennifer Tilly joked about how her friend called her and was like, oh my god, the opening scene is basically the inside of your vagina. Because it's... Yeah.
00:26:54
Speaker
Right. so I was like, yeah I do really dig how game she is for this. ah Not gonna lie, don't love the insemination plotline. yeah When she is pregnant and in bed and giving birth, like I found that to be pretty delightful.
00:27:12
Speaker
ah It's genuinely horrific. Like, The idea of all of this happening to a person like I feel genuinely bad for her while all of this is happening around her. Her life is like derailing and she has no idea that it's actually derailing yet until she wakes up pregnant.
00:27:31
Speaker
But the insemination with the turkey baster. ah Have you seen Don't Breathe? Yeah, and It's great, don't breathe. Yeah, it is. And I was enjoying most of that movie too until it got to that part. And i almost turned it off because no, ah yeah there's only so much I can take.
00:27:53
Speaker
And no, so when they had that in here and they even have the sperm but dripping from the base. Yes. Oh my God. I hate shit like that.
00:28:05
Speaker
No. Oh, man. Yeah, that I found that to be pretty revolting. Very. It was awful. But yeah, this movie... So you did touch on ah him like not being able to pick like Glenn or Glenda or like the writers not being able to land on one, maybe?
00:28:28
Speaker
I mean... ah that's what I did kind of find amusing about this movie is it's about gender identity, sexuality, and at times addiction for seemingly like no reason. It's about these like very self-serious and like personal things. And I don't think it's making fun of those things, but it's having fun with them.
00:28:54
Speaker
And I, I found it pretty like delightful. I liked hearing Don Mancini talk about it and like how he was like, yeah, if you start seeing these movies from the doll's perspectives, they become less scary and it's better to lean into the comedy of it all.
00:29:16
Speaker
But I do want to say, in terms of the Glenn and Glenda conversation and like... Chucky and Tiffany, you know, Chucky wants a boy, Tiffany wants a girl.
00:29:29
Speaker
ah This movie's biggest fault is not fully committing to Glenda. I think Glenda is this movie's proudest achievement.
00:29:40
Speaker
That, like, moment, that, like, psycho reveal where, you know, they think it's Tiffany, then she turns around and it's Glenda... I wanted to jump up and start clapping. I was like, this is a five-star movie. Five out of five masterpiece.
00:29:56
Speaker
It should have won Best Picture. Where's Glenda? Why isn't Glenda in everything? Glenda should be in more movies. And then they like totally dropped Glenda immediately. And I was like, guys...
00:30:09
Speaker
you fucked up you should have seen glenda all the way through don't just flirt with the idea guys don't just tickle my balls give give it all to me you know um honestly um oh sorry if you had more you can go no that's all i love glenda what do you have to you better have only nice things to say about glenda You know being able to watch, you know, behind the scenes clips and the two documentaries on the Chucky franchise um and understanding Mancini's direction with the films, um basically saying, I am going to just start...
00:30:56
Speaker
um making these more homosexual bits in here. um I can understand this obviously way more than I did as a child, 12 year old, but but Yeah, um with the character split of Glenn and Glenda, Glenda obviously beats Glenn's personality by a mile. and I was a little bummed seeing her ah personality pop up only at the end even because Glenn was saying, you know, sometimes I feel like a girl or or boy, and
00:31:38
Speaker
um If he had, you know, some internal thoughts throughout the movie also as Glenda, I think that could have helped it a little bit more to really seeing his struggle because you're mainly seeing the struggle between Chucky and Tiffany trying to choose he's a boy or he's a girl, um even though it was his own internal struggle. But they don't really talk about that. But Yeah, um i have nothing bad to say about Glenda. I think she's cool. Even her little human version at the end where she has Chucky's full head of crazy ass red hair.
00:32:17
Speaker
That was great. Yeah, ah she's very creepy, and all she does is stare through a window. so So that's a thing we need to talk about, a point in the movie. So at the end, and again, guys, we're in full spoiler mode.
00:32:36
Speaker
This movie ends in basically like a horrific blaze of glory. Tiffany, and so Jennifer Tilly gives birth to two twin babies, a boy and a girl, and Jennifer Tilly is trying to switch bodies, or sorry, Tiffany is trying to switch bodies with Jennifer Tilly.
00:32:58
Speaker
They're going to do a body swap. And Chucky ends up putting an axe or something right in Tiffany's head, killing her. And the whole time I'm like, I bet the fucking switch worked.
00:33:10
Speaker
The switch does work. But then Glenn takes the axe ah or whatever. It is an axe, right? Yeah, it's an axe. Yeah. He takes an axe... Yeah, because they do like a Shining parody earlier. um But so he takes an axe and chops off all the limbs of Chucky in a very cool sequence. That's probably my favorite like action bit in the movie. They...
00:33:35
Speaker
They keep finding pretty cool ways to kill Chucky from movie to movie, and I dig it. but um So Chucky ends up dying, and then cut to your back. It's Jennifer Tilly. Tiffany is in Jennifer Tilly's body, though. Jennifer Tilly is dead, we can only assume.
00:33:56
Speaker
uh they have a little daughter named glenda that's i'm assuming the daughter grown up a little bit more and glenn is in the boy's body so they swapped the baby into that doll and then did they just kill the baby all of that to ask that did they kill this baby I mean, it seems like the babies were fine, but they were able to just split Glenn's full-on personalities with ah both babies, and you know he got to be both a boy and a girl.
00:34:30
Speaker
Wait, so when the... Oh, they did they just split both personalities? That's what happened? That's what I was thinking because they had both a boy and a girl baby. And since this dude was um feeling a boy and a girl in his own body, once they did the Chucky chant and they butchered it again, they switched it up again um by saying switch instead of awake. And neither of those were in the original anyway.
00:35:01
Speaker
Sorry, I get really annoyed that they keep switching that. um Oh, and it's so bad now. It is. It's terrible. And switch, and switch. No, doesn't work. um But yeah, I just assumed that they split both of his personalities and they were able to get both the boy and the girl, Glenn and Glenda.
00:35:20
Speaker
Okay. I get it now. That makes more sense than the whole ah rant thing that I went on. But... Okay, I get that.
00:35:32
Speaker
Man, Glenda is fucking creepy then, but that's not the energy Glenda was given when she fucking lit Joan on fire and made her fall down a flight of stairs.
00:35:43
Speaker
like Right, she was fucking crazy. Yeah, Glenda was full Norman Bates. <unk> Like, you know, screaming like, no, as he's being taken down.
00:35:55
Speaker
No, man. More Glenda. Give us a Glenda movie, dude. Does Glenda come back in these future movies? I feel like we're never going to see Glenn or Glenda again.
00:36:07
Speaker
you want me to answer that? Yeah, you can answer that. So she doesn't come back in the movie. Wait, wait. Spoilers for the fate of Glenn and Glenda.
00:36:21
Speaker
If the listeners don't want to know. um She doesn't come back in the movies, but she comes back in the TV show. Oh, okay. Okay.
00:36:33
Speaker
man yeah Man, maybe we got to cover this TV show in the future. wink. win Maybe.
Character Dynamics and Tiffany's Role
00:36:40
Speaker
yeah um Yeah, the episodes where they do have Glenn and Glenda in the ah series, they have more focus on Jennifer Tilly.
00:36:52
Speaker
but she is making so many jokes about herself and just acting more you know ditzy crazy instead of homicidal crazy and it got to the point where i stopped watching it because it wasn't entertaining for me um once it got to that point jennifer tilly Yeah, just I got tired of all the cracks that she was making about herself.
00:37:21
Speaker
um And yeah, I don't know. Maybe if I revisit the series, um I might like it again now that I'm really dissecting these films for the podcast. But I don't know.
00:37:34
Speaker
We'll see. We'll see. Um, so where does this TV show, like, fall in place? Did it come out in between a Curse of Chucky and Cult of Chucky?
00:37:50
Speaker
Uh, I thought it came off, or came out after, um I really think it came out after because Chucky does reference um that he has a queer kid ah in the series um in like one of the first few episodes too.
00:38:14
Speaker
So that came out in 2021 and in 2017. holt of chuck e came out and twenty seventeen so okay so the tv show was after all of this damn tv shows a lot more recent than i had realized i didn't realize that was post-covid um tv show okay that's pretty cool and don mancini's involved in the tv show yeah i believe so Okay, do you know if Doc of Chucky touches on the show at all?
00:38:46
Speaker
is just I don't think they do. Yeah, it's just the movies. um Yeah, because when I watched it the first time, I didn't see them talking about the show or anything. And I could be wrong. Demonsini might not be in it, but I want to say ah that he is. um Yeah, he is.
00:39:05
Speaker
He's involved with it. Sorry. ah Okay, cool. Sorry. All my facts are off. um Are there any moments in the movie that you wanted to talk about at all? Anything that ah you anything that you found positive?
00:39:22
Speaker
um Let's see. It's not really, i would say, positive. i would say it's more so just...
00:39:34
Speaker
out there from what I was used to seeing about Chucky. And it was just making me laugh because,
Horror vs. War Films
00:39:41
Speaker
um again, watching Doc of Chucky and referencing Bride of Chucky again, and something that you kept talking about, Chucky's genitals.
00:39:53
Speaker
We get a little bit of that in here. So, and in Bride of Chucky. This movie has the same questions. These were important questions. Even the writer-director was like, I kind of want to know, too.
00:40:09
Speaker
Yeah, and even for Bride of Chucky, the infamous sex scene, everyone was just cracking up about it. um And they were just thinking, you know, how how is that going to happen?
00:40:23
Speaker
So even Don Mancini was saying, you know you know, we're just angling the camera down. You see some of Tiffany's butt. And then the director, Ronnie Yu, was saying, well...
00:40:36
Speaker
no one wants to see two dolls having sex but at the same time they do but also how are we going to do that and then they had them basically like just showing their shadows and everyone got a kick out of that and then seeing all the puppeteers just laughing while they are simultaneously trying to work together to get these two dolls to to have sex on TV or not on TV, on film.
00:41:04
Speaker
Apparently that was really difficult for them because all of them were laughing. And the same thing with this film, they're all trying to work together to you know, replicate a doll masturbating in this film and apparently you can chucky's dick in the uh unedited cut of this film which i did not know and i could have gone a life without knowing that i I don't think that's the version that I saw.
00:41:38
Speaker
um What's it called? Man, they didn't think people would want to see puppets having sex. Were they wrong? Team America World Police came out um in 2004, and if I remember correctly, that movie has an infamous puppet sex scene.
00:41:55
Speaker
I could be wrong. haven't seen that since it originally came out. so But I think that that does have a puppet sex scene. interesting um anomalisa i don't know if those are puppets that has a uh very um like real and kind of sad sex scene in it you want to check out that one not a horror film it's about the horrors of life
00:42:28
Speaker
Oh, lovely. that makes it even worse. But my question to you is, were you finally satisfied that you got Chucky's genitals in both of these movies covered?
00:42:43
Speaker
I don't remember Chucky's genitals in this movie. what What point did they come up? I remember that the Glenn genital search where they pantsed him. And I was like, that's the first thing I would do to Chucky.
Podcast Banter and Audience Stories
00:42:55
Speaker
Not the kid doll, but the adult doll. what What point did the Chucky genital scene happen? When they were trying to prepare for the artificial insemination, so Tiffany was giving, you know, Chucky the little cup so he can masturbate.
00:43:15
Speaker
And then um they show him masturbating in the bathroom while Tiffany and Redman are downstairs. Yeah. um And the paparazzi, ah john John Waters, he came and he started ah taking pictures of Jennifer Tilly and Redman, but then he also sees ah Chucky upstairs whacking it. And then um he's like, oh, God bless the little people.
00:43:40
Speaker
I don't remember that scene at all. I must have like not, I must have like walked away for two seconds both times I watched this movie during that scene. I have no recollection of it.
00:43:52
Speaker
um John Waters, you mentioned him. Shout out to him, director John Waters. um Yeah, I wasn't too familiar with him, but I was just like, oh, cool. And cool to see him in this movie, I guess.
00:44:04
Speaker
I don't know if I've seen any of his movies. I don't know if I have either. I've just seen his face. And then on Doc of Chucky, he was talking about how he really just wanted to be a part of this and have a really gory death scene ah done by Chucky and getting the acid poured on him and just watching his face melt.
00:44:31
Speaker
I had to turn away at that point. um So I'm sure he was happy with his own death scene in there. Yeah, he's a director of Crybaby, Pink Flamingos, Hairspray.
00:44:44
Speaker
yeah Serial Mom. Ooh, Serial Mom. He's the director of Crybaby, like Johnny Depp Crybaby. Yeah, Johnny Depp Crybaby. love that movie, but I love Johnny Depp, so...
00:44:56
Speaker
so So you have seen one of his movies. I still haven't it.
Final Reflections on 'Seed of Chucky'
00:45:01
Speaker
I might have seen Hairspray, actually. that movie, seeing the poster, I'm like, I feel like i ah in another life I've seen this movie.
00:45:11
Speaker
You probably have, or at least seen some parts of it. I do want to say i I thought I was going to be very annoyed with Glenn going into this movie, but i did kind of enjoy his journey going from, you know, the puppet show guy where everybody hates him.
00:45:32
Speaker
He just, like... He's just living in a cage, sees his parents on TV, on actually a very, like, nice-looking vintage, like, TV. I really enjoyed the look of ah Chucky and Tiffany being interviewed.
00:45:49
Speaker
I don't know. I'm really liking the aesthetic of like an old TV or like a VHS look. And I think part of that is because of the morbid curiosities logo we had originally come up with.
00:46:00
Speaker
Right. um But then shipping himself off to LA and going, bringing his parents back to life and just going on this journey. His Chucky and Tiffany have the violence talk with him where he's,
00:46:15
Speaker
I think maybe like laying in a bathtub or something. and Chucky's very creepily like tapping a knife on this bathtub. and it i don't know.
00:46:29
Speaker
I am just very very shocked that I enjoyed this thing. but i'm I'm kind of glad that I i tackled this beast. and I'm here now at the other end of it.
00:46:41
Speaker
and It was, I don't want to say my white whale, but it was just this thing, seed of Chucky, seed of Chucky. It was always in the back of my head, you know? This movie, like, i'm I'm never going to see it. I don't want to see it. I heard it so bad. And to not only have finally watched it, but to, like, enjoy it, I think it's triumph.
00:47:05
Speaker
It's a triumph. Well, I'm happy you enjoyed it um and at least have a lot of love for it that you can defend it on this episode because i still don't like it. Yes, I like it better than Child's Play 3, but I can't say that, yeah, I like this film.
00:47:26
Speaker
No, it's it's amusing, but i can't actually say that I like this film. That's fair enough. And I feel like most people are going to ah fall in line with your opinion on this.
00:47:41
Speaker
um How did you feel about the made in China thing on on the wrist? I hated that part so much. um Why do you hate it?
00:47:54
Speaker
Just because, you know, at the end when um Chucky kills Tiffany and then Glenn's crying and then he just you know snaps. He gets mad and you hear you know the music playing and then his...
00:48:15
Speaker
martial arts moves come out and he's trying to you know beat up Chucky and then he finally kills Chucky. That just reminded me of um spoilers for Halloween Resurrection, the ending of Halloween Resurrection.
00:48:31
Speaker
That pissed me the fuck off when Busta Rhymes basically makes Michael Myers look like a bitch when he's pulling out his martial arts moves. No.
00:48:42
Speaker
I... Nope. didn't fly with me at all. Who did it first though? Was it Halloween or was it, um, fucking seed of Chucky? Nick, you gotta prepare me for these questions.
00:49:02
Speaker
I actually, I was prepared to vamp while you looked it up. I actually didn't really realize, um, what's it called? That, the made in China thing, that that's what it was actually and like that that fight scene was in reference to until listening to the commentary and hearing dan and Don Mancini talk about it.
00:49:27
Speaker
um So Halloween Resurrection 2002, and then seat of was and four so halloween did it first I knew Halloween Resurrection was 2002. I should have just confidently said it like I do the the wrong things that I confidently say on this podcast.
00:49:51
Speaker
I did. i mean, you know, this movie did explain my Gina Gershon mix up. Gina Gershon is the other actress in Bound. I just mixed the two names with the faces. So I was like,
00:50:03
Speaker
pretty close and god damn it again i have it in my notes it says go on 30 minute rant about bound um you guys do yourself a favor watch bound it rules it's such a great movie um yeah uh jennifer tilly uh How did you feel about her relationship with... What's the name of her driver? i i kind of... I kind of dug that, dude.
00:50:37
Speaker
I did not dig that guy. he was kind of lame. um he was, i'm trying I know. I'm trying to find him. Stan? ah dan Oh, yeah, it was Stan.
00:50:49
Speaker
um Yeah. It seemed weird, them two, when they were together. she just starts making out with him, so I'm thinking, oh okay, they've had you know some relations already.
00:51:02
Speaker
um and clearly they must have because he's over there just practicing saying I love you to her or you know he's just really obsessed with her um I loved how lame that was he's i love you Tiffany I love you Tiffany oh god have you ever had a moment like that where you needed to you know practice something you were going to say to a woman um and Maybe. i rehearse in my head ah lot.
00:51:36
Speaker
Okay. that i don't But not like in a mirror or out loud. No, the closest I have gotten to that is back in the day when I had to actually call off like and talk to a person when I was calling off work.
00:51:53
Speaker
um I would rehearse um my sick voice and what I was going to say before I would make the call. Nice.
00:52:03
Speaker
Yeah. Can you relate to that at all? I can't because, you know, like you, i try to rehearse everything in my head. um Well, no, that's a lie. I do try to, you you know, have conversations with myself in the car or Not really with myself, but i'm thinking of, you know, maybe an argument or a smart ass comment that someone said to me um some time ago. And I'm thinking I could have said this or I could have said this and just getting mad at myself because I didn't think of anything to say back to them to shut their ass up at the time. So, um yeah, not really. ever
00:52:46
Speaker
You never rehearse in preparation. No, not really. Just more so after the fact of when it happens. Yeah, I don't really do a whole lot of rehearsing either. I practice my accents alone to myself sometimes, though, if that counts.
00:53:03
Speaker
You know, I'm watching a movie. I hear an actor doing an accent. I'll just start doing the accent, too, just repeating the dialogue, trying to imitate the accent. You're brave. I can't do that. I should try to. alone when I do it.
00:53:17
Speaker
But still, you're brave. If I'm alone and I try to say something, and just think, ew, why did I even try that? Let me shut up and go crawl under my rock again.
00:53:29
Speaker
No, man. i When I'm alone, that's when I bounce the ideas around. Fucking talking to my dog, doing weird accents with her. Oh, I say weird shit to my dog all the time, and that's probably why she doesn't love me, because I annoy her.
00:53:46
Speaker
I'm just with her fully quoting movies, Infinity War's on. I'm like, i know what it's like to lose, to feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail all the same, and I just do the whole monologue, and honestly, the whole movie.
00:54:01
Speaker
It'd be like that with some movies. I respect that. Yeah, not many movies. Infinity War is one of the few. I talked about this on the podcast. I saw it in theaters like 10 times. It's one of the few I can like probably quote the whole thing.
00:54:13
Speaker
I like think I remember the movie entirely front to back. Nice, nice. I'm going get there with Seed of Chucky, too. That's the goal. I'm going watch it every day.
00:54:26
Speaker
i think this should become a Seed of Chucky podcast, actually. seat of chuckey podcast actually Well, looking at our Instagram, that's pretty much what it looks like since we had to remake the page.
00:54:41
Speaker
um i was just looking at it today and thinking, wow, this this isn't even about horror movies. This is just about Chucky. We have all these little bits for Chucky. Yeah, if our main picture weren't the misery picture, then it would look like we're just a podcast solely devoted to Chucky, which, I mean, we kind of are for two months.
00:55:03
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Pretty much. Which isn't a bad thing. I'm really learning that I didn't realize how much fun I would be having. Like, Child's Play 1 and 2, Bride of Chucky and Seed of Chucky have all... Like, I've had something to take away, but...
00:55:23
Speaker
I mean, Mercedes, I feel like you got to give Seed of Chucky another rewatch. Then we got to record ah another episode. Once a year, we will record a Seed of Chucky episode.
00:55:37
Speaker
Yo, I can't make that commitment once a year. i could probably watch it once a year, but talking about this once a year, I...
00:55:49
Speaker
I can't. Maybe I could do that about Bride of Chucky. you know i That was more my jam than this one, but you know we we all have our ah guilty pleasures here. We like this one. I like Bride of Chucky. It's all good.
00:56:05
Speaker
I don't believe in guilty pleasures, at least you're not within not within movies and music. feel like you just got to let yourself love them. you know don't Don't feel guilt. you know i try to see it from that perspective, but someone always rips on me for the music I like. you know People like you. um I do the same thing back to you.
00:56:35
Speaker
i don't think I ripped on Yes, you did. I... I said you to Motley Crue. I listened back to that. I was like, damn, that did like ah was very cutting.
00:56:50
Speaker
and Then you talked trash about Avenged Sevenfold. I didn't. Yes, you did. No, I didn't. You said they have a cheeseball song or something. A cheeseball song. I feel like yeah you can say that about trash everybody. That's not talking trash.
00:57:08
Speaker
But to me, it is.
00:57:11
Speaker
It cut deep. They do have some songs that, no, I am not a fan of, but I won't say it like that. um I don't belong here. We gotta move on here.
00:57:22
Speaker
Escape. from this afterlife see you know all the lyrics so i like that okay then we're on the same page with that let's let's not go back to that trash them yes that's a harsh word you trash them you trash them and then you trashed man oh man no That's just what this podcast is. You're just here to, you know, take jabs at me all the time. And I'm not witty enough to come back with something to hit you choice yeah twice as hard.
00:57:58
Speaker
I will one day. I will prevail. i don't know when, but I will. yeah You know, I don't remember the Bride of Chucky recording too much because we've, for the listeners, we recorded them like six months apart from each other.
00:58:13
Speaker
ah It feels like that. I don't know why. It felt so long between recordings. It really does. I feel like I've been pretty calm the past couple episodes. I was expecting to be hyped. I i was pretty ah excited to talk to this movie, but say pretty level. I had to take an academic approach to this movie.
00:58:40
Speaker
Why? Because it deserved it. you know It deserved it deserve no No, at all. It deserved it for reasons like Martha Stewart gets executed off screen and a Britney Spears look-a-life dies in an explosion. It's Britney, bitch. I even had that in my notes. It's Britney, bitch. I love that scene. That was too funny.
00:59:08
Speaker
See, the reaction you gave right now to that, I feel like should put this movie at like three stars for you. Let me rate the movie for you.
00:59:20
Speaker
Three stars? Three stars. Three out of five. You don't think that's too generous? That's generous. That is very generous. I would say two and a half stars.
00:59:33
Speaker
Two and a half stars? give Child's Play three two stars. Child's Play 3, give one star. Yeah, I got to bump that down to one or one and a half. That movie depresses me thinking about it. It's such a bad sequel.
00:59:49
Speaker
It's not even that it's a bad movie. It's just such a bad sequel. who and and like we were saying too even the kills in there they weren't memorable or exciting to watch um in Bride of Chucky at least you have cool actors in there um like John Ritter you have him in there R.A.P.
01:00:12
Speaker
um and he loved being a fucking asshole he really wanted to take on the role of being an asshole and then um you have Alexis Arquette just being insane in the beginning and then his death scene was pretty oh god gross let's not talk about that either even though I brought it up but Child's Play 3 super fucking bland Nothing to latch on to.
01:00:40
Speaker
um So you do get some redemption in Br- I cannot fucking talk. I'm sorry. ah You do get redemption in Bride of Chucky and in Seed of Chucky. I will admit, again, it's better than part three.
01:00:55
Speaker
Yeah, and you... I feel like this movie delivers us like a lot of um great and memorable kill scenes. this Aside from the first Child's Play, this might have all of my favorite ah kill scenes.
01:01:12
Speaker
um The British Parents, that being shot as a parody of Halloween, which Don Mancini had talked about, that... It's shot to look like it's all one take, but it's broken apart with ah the thunder and the lightning. um They use that to kind of cut everything.
01:01:30
Speaker
And what's it called? I found that to be a surprisingly effective intro. um Not fully, but when it starts cutting up, like the girl cutting up closer, being like...
01:01:44
Speaker
you're peeing your pants your pants you're peeing i think that's what she's saying um didn't even try to do a girl's voice but uh i think she said ah pissing instead of peeing you're pissing your pants you're pissing yeah she's i felt like oh side note um i think uh glenn slash glenda had made in japan on his wrist not made in china japan yeah that would make sense um i also oh i had made in china in my notes that's probably why um but uh
01:02:28
Speaker
Yeah, I thought that kill was really good. The animatronic guy getting decapitated, not too great. I mean, Britney Spears, pretty funny. John Waters gets his face melted. um And Chucky hanging upside down and that moment, too. Oh, my God. With a knife in his mouth.
01:02:47
Speaker
Yeah, I really dug that. I like the puppet work. Chucky has his fingers crossed as he's breaking a secret at one point. That's a hand that they attach to Chucky because they can't move his fingers.
01:03:01
Speaker
Oh, true. I thought that was delightfully stupid. It's like, he really needs to cross his fingers to break this promise. Right. I know it's like shorthand for the audience. literally Literal shorthand.
01:03:16
Speaker
Chucky got ah tiny hands. but um There you go again with the short jokes. Oh, my. That was directed at at Charles, though. Little Charles. you've been shaying Chucky, and now you wanted to bring it back to Charles. You're just... Yeah, I feel like we're so far past the Charles of yesterday. i feel like...
01:03:39
Speaker
He's become Chucky. He's a married man. um his His lady calls him Chucky, too. And so I was like, you know, i feel like he's there. he's The nickname has fully grown on him.
01:03:54
Speaker
Exactly. After all these years.
01:03:59
Speaker
And after the few episodes where you were really trying to stick to Charles. Yeah. Well, finally evolved. it It wasn't even a conscious effort. I mean, because Charles, i it felt right.
01:04:15
Speaker
He felt like Charles to me. I was making ah connection with the human side of him. But, I mean, that is kind of a testament to Don Mancini's writing.
01:04:26
Speaker
ah yeah Mercedes has given me a face. This is a testament to Don Mancini's writing. he's Chucky has lost his humanity. He's become dehumanized, if you will.
01:04:41
Speaker
And he and me so naturally going from Charles to Chucky is just a testament to that.
01:04:54
Speaker
and don't I don't know what i what else I can say. No, i I see that. And I love the the ending. like that you took that seriously. I know.
01:05:05
Speaker
I had to. But no, it just it leads me to my point here. um The ending where not the full ending. But um where Chucky's about to you know do the whole chant to switch everybody and um Tiffany's like yelling at him to hurry up and then um Jennifer Tilly and Stan, they're just you know screaming and then his kids going off too. He finally snaps and is just like, you know what? I can't do this shit anymore. I'd...
01:05:40
Speaker
like I like being a doll, like a killer doll. I'm notorious pretty much. And, you know, I have everything. You know, I have a beautiful wife, a talented kid. I'm Chucky, the killer doll. And I dig it. I fucking love that whole dialogue right there.
01:05:59
Speaker
So. Brad Dourif wrote that himself, actually. Really? Yeah, I guess he only had like one or two lines there. And Brad Dourif was like, this is a big moment for Chucky. I feel like, let me take the reins on this one. So that's all him right there.
01:06:20
Speaker
that's love That's coming from the character that he's been working with for, what is it, like two decades at this point? Pretty much. the point of seat of Chucky. Yeah.
01:06:32
Speaker
Yeah, I thought that was great. You did... I don't know if this happened before the monologue or after, but Stan, he bites it. Chucky or somebody throws a knife and it goes right into like his sternum as he's like defending. He like blocks Jennifer Tilly, and I i felt bad. i was like, man, you know...
01:06:53
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe you're right, Mercedes. Maybe he did suck. yeah He was kind of schlubby. Jennifer Tilly is actually like very beautiful. um She could do better.
01:07:04
Speaker
Yeah, Stan was a fucking wiener. He only had five lines in here, and he now he he he was boring. And I feel like every man thinks Jennifer Tilly is beautiful.
01:07:19
Speaker
You know, I didn't really get it until these Chucky movies. I wasn't seeing it. The voice was a hindrance for me. i was like, it sounds like she's hurting when she talks. Like, it hurts to speak.
01:07:33
Speaker
I remember seeing her in Liar Liar first. The Jim Carrey movie? Yeah, I love that movie. It's amazing in there. um But hearing her voice in there, i was just thinking, is this fake?
01:07:48
Speaker
Is that her real voice? She has to be faking that because no one could talk like that. um But i found out, oh, the that is her real voice. Okay. um It's kind like...
01:08:00
Speaker
I think Marge from The Simpsons might have a very similar voice to how her character sounds. um I could be wrong. I want to say I saw that actress in a movie directed by Jane Campion.
01:08:17
Speaker
um I might be wrong. I might be conflating a couple of things, but... Yeah, the it, I think that's why she is so, like, or or she got this popularity, though, is because of, like, how specific she sounds.
01:08:37
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, they, Don Mancini did create the role of Tiffany for her, and he did um tell her, you know, every time I wrote out the script for you,
01:08:50
Speaker
um this role i would hear in your voice. So, um, she, she brings a nice little charm to it, especially at, um, I know I've said that before, but, uh, at the end of, uh, Bride of Chucky, when, um,
01:09:09
Speaker
uh, uh, geez, I can't talk, Chucky kills Tiffany at the end, um, Jennifer Tilly was talking about how her and Brad Dourif, you know, they were still in their, um, recording booths, uh, in front of each other, and she was saying, you know, at that part where he stabs me, I look up, and, you know, Brad Dourif is, you know, tearing up, and, you know, that was, that was a touching moment for them, and even he,
01:09:39
Speaker
um finished off with you know why haven't I had a bride before this or why did it take so long for me to get a wife in here or something he Braddorff loved having Jennifer Tilly as his opposite in here so um they make such a good duo I love them together They do.
01:09:58
Speaker
Tiffany, i think, kind of steals these movies. They... Kind of like how I said Child's Play 2 would sink without Kyle. I think these movies would really sink without Tiffany.
01:10:11
Speaker
ah ah She should almost be the main focus for a movie. This is what I want to see. Tiffany, the main focus, or Glenda, the main focus...
01:10:26
Speaker
give Give me, well, I'll put Glenda off to the side. Glenda needs her own movie. We got to give Glenda justice. Hashtag justice for Glenda.
01:10:36
Speaker
Listeners, you know, you rally behind certain stuff on this podcast. it may not always be in my favor. Rally behind this. Hashtag justice for Glenda. Tweet at Don Mancini.
01:10:50
Speaker
Message Don Mancini. Hashtag justice for Glenda. Tell him we sent you. We want more Glenda. At least I do. I can't speak for Mercedes.
01:11:01
Speaker
But... Hashtag justice for Glenda. We need more of her. That aside, we need a movie that is Tiffany focused with Chucky as a side character.
01:11:14
Speaker
Much like um Captain Jack Sparrow in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Use Chucky sparingly. Have him around for a spectacle. Make it be special when Chucky pulls up on screen.
01:11:28
Speaker
Let's have a just Tiffany focused movie.
01:11:33
Speaker
Is it too late to get her back in the doll? ah We... going to need you to... Well, I'm going We both need to just watch the the series. We don't have to cover it for the podcast, but... The TV show.
01:11:48
Speaker
Yeah. Guys, I mean, well, not. Well, maybe we've been talking about if we ever did a Patreon, we'd probably start with the Chucky TV show over there.
01:12:01
Speaker
So it might be in the cards, but there's a good chance I might just watch the TV show just for the sake of it. And maybe like throughout the podcast, you know, future episodes, we can like dip in at the end of the episode. Like, hey, where are we at with Chucky? You know, let's talk about that Chucky TV show.
01:12:20
Speaker
I do have a random callback to um our previous episode. I think it's our previous episode. um But before we go off the rails with that, would do you have any final thoughts on Seed of Chucky, your favorite fucking movie?
01:12:39
Speaker
Yeah, man. i Sorry to disappoint. I don't know if you were expecting us to like both go in and like shit on the movie together.
01:12:51
Speaker
i kind of wanted to keep it a secret a little bit because you hadn't you also hadn't rewatched it yet when I was first watching it. And I was texting you like, oh my God, there is so much to talk about.
01:13:05
Speaker
And even though we covered everything in my notes, actually, um I still feel like we haven't even scratched the surface. This movie is going to be dissected by me for decades.
01:13:18
Speaker
um I could see you doing that. You just bringing it up in almost every episode. Remember in Seat of Chucky, this happened. I think that's where this movie got it from. i see you doing that.
01:13:31
Speaker
gonna write a book about it. um i So I'll say this, I'm super, super excited for the next two movies. I had no expectation ah for Cult of Chucky and Curse of Chucky. I have no idea which order they come out in.
01:13:51
Speaker
um But now knowing that these are still done by Don Mancini, it seems like he really has an attachment for this character, and he's interested in seeing this character do new things in each movie.
01:14:10
Speaker
At least that's how it seemed from everything I was listening to from Seed of Chucky. He could have had a change of heart, because... think there's a big gap in between these next two movies that we're about to review, like their original release date.
01:14:24
Speaker
but I I'm optimistic I I like when a creator stays attached to something and really gets to see their vision through and it it doesn't seem like a cash grab like it this seems like something he's like passionate about again just from stuff I've gotten from the seat of Chucky and Bride of Chucky interviews actually but All of that being said, I'm really happy to have watched Seed of Chucky and to have walked away like a fan of it. I was saying, like, one of these movies that people find bad, I'm gonna latch on to and I'm really gonna like it,
01:15:06
Speaker
and I didn't think Seed of Chucky was going to be the one. I was putting my money on Child's Play 3. Didn't realize how bad that was going to be. But yeah, Seed of Chucky. I'm walking away from this this our first like full season of this podcast. Walking away being like...
01:15:25
Speaker
Damn, there are going to be some hidden gems in these fucking miniseries, even the ones that like, or not miniseries, in these like seasons. And even the longer ones that might seem daunting that will eventually do like the Hellraisers, I feel like are pretty long and the Friday 13th.
01:15:47
Speaker
it It makes me feel like there might be some really fun experiences to be had in the middle of these like extensive like question mark franchises.
01:15:59
Speaker
The ones that are at least a question mark to me. and know that was long-winded, but yeah, I enjoyed Seed of Chucky. There's going to be one listener on our Instagram page who's probably going to be happy that I defended Seed of Chucky.
01:16:15
Speaker
um I mean, I'm happy that you at least enjoyed it because neither of us had a good time watching Child's Play 3 and felt very difficult to get a good episode out for that movie too. yeah,
01:16:34
Speaker
yeah i didn't think that you would enjoy this film, but knowing that you did, i like it because and at least we can see, you know,
01:16:46
Speaker
our tastes starting to, you know, differ a little bit. um So it it makes for good discussion here on the podcast. Yeah, I think this is our first full-on like difference in opinion that we've come across right now. And honestly, part of me was like, man, what if we really like went to the mat with each other on this one? Mercedes was like, fuck you, you're an idiot. You know you like trash.
01:17:14
Speaker
And I was like, you don't get high art. Okay.
01:17:19
Speaker
I mean, we'll probably get to a point. ah Some movie were were pretty heated on the topic. And, you know, I might be defending the movie and you might think it's trash and therefore i call me trash. We don't know.
01:17:33
Speaker
The world awaits us. I would never insult you or your taste. I don't see it getting to that point. But I'm ready for a like ah high energy, i don't want to say heated, because I don't really want us to get like angry with each other legitimately. Yeah, I don't mean like mean heated. energy, high back and for you know with so cant talk nice insults
01:18:05
Speaker
Yeah, I'm working on being wittier with you um and trying to come back with some funnier comebacks. It hasn't happened, and I've been slurring my words all throughout this episode and the podcast, really.
01:18:21
Speaker
haven't even noticed anything. notice No, I've been fucking up words. ah My vocabulary apparently is really bad too.
01:18:32
Speaker
But um no, I like that we were clashing with this one because ah I'm really excited to see what your thoughts are on Curse of Chucky. That one is next. And that one was released in 2013.
01:18:48
Speaker
ah twenty thirteen and this one was 2004. So yeah, definitely a big jump. Curse is the one that you like? Yes, Curse is the one that i love.
01:19:00
Speaker
Okay, nice. yeah I like that I know that you loved i actually got like chills when you said that. i Because it's like, again, it's just like kind of how I found Seed of Chucky through this. It sounds like out of all these Chucky movies, there's like an obscure one in the middle that you really like latched onto. Because love is a strong word, but you love it. like This is one you would put up there with one and two.
01:19:29
Speaker
Yes, definitely. Okay, guys. Well, tune in fucking next week for that. You just got me excited for... Okay, I've got some expectations now. That's cool. Yeah.
01:19:45
Speaker
We're, like, nearing the end of this thing. We got two more Chucky's and then the remake left to do. And then we're on the other side of this. We're going to be on to our next series, which we'll tell you guys about in a couple episodes.
01:19:59
Speaker
um Yeah, that'll... That'll be fun. But yeah, you wanted to go off the rails. Yes. So, um my husband was talking to me today and he was actually offended because one of our episodes you had asked, you know, what is a quote that he took from a movie that i didn't like or just stood with him.
01:20:24
Speaker
And it I couldn't say any at the time. um and it wasn't because i couldn't remember. It's just I didn't want to say I'm on mic.
01:20:35
Speaker
But, you know, since we're in this franchise and now we have Jennifer Tilly and everyone kind of can recognize, you know, her features and all, it reminded me of one.
01:20:49
Speaker
um So have you seen the movie Superstar with Molly Shannon? Is that Will Ferrell? Yeah, Will Ferrell and Molly Shannon in there. Yeah, so... had an ex-girlfriend that, like, loved that movie.
01:21:04
Speaker
That's a good-ass movie. I don't remember much of it. ah Do you remember the part where Molly Shannon's character is fighting with the the mean girl in there?
01:21:18
Speaker
No, but okay you can describe it for the listeners. Okay, so yeah, Molly Shannon plays this dorky girl, Mary Catherine Gallagher. Spoilers if no one has seen that. And if you haven't, what the fuck? That's a good ass movie.
01:21:31
Speaker
um Anyway, um yeah, she just wants to be in this talent show and this other character in there, Evian, she is the mean girl, but the popular girl in there. She's dating Will Ferrell. I just don't know this girl's real name.
01:21:47
Speaker
Um, but you know, she's telling her, no, you can't be in it. So Molly Shannon, she fucking pushes her and they start doing like a little girl fight. But then all of a sudden, Molly Shannon just starts punching the shit out of her boobs.
01:22:02
Speaker
And you just hear like the weird sound effects of it too. it was awkward, but she fucking just keeps going at it with her. And the other character, Evian, just grabs hold of her chest and is just like, my titties. and that's the fucking line that stood with him because...
01:22:24
Speaker
Randomly, if like he saw like girls fighting or something online, he would just yell that. And then apparently someone said something related to that movie at his job and he was able to full on say that.
01:22:41
Speaker
um So yeah, that that's what I mean. When I show him movies, he latches on to the weirdest fucking quotes. He didn't latch on to the part where this dumbass is like smelling underarms. He latched on to that. So, you know, just throwing that in there for this episode because he was highly offended.
01:23:06
Speaker
Nice. Well, I'm glad you could correct that egregious error you made on Mike. How dare you? I know. I suck for that. You really cracked me up. I'm like, crap, now I have to rectify this situation. so do You know what? now Now he gets to do Cult of Chucky or Curse of Chucky.
01:23:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah um I think I might have him watch it with me just so i can get his input on it now because I want to hear one of his opinions on a movie that we cover um as I watch it.
01:23:41
Speaker
You guys should do like a monthly bonus episode for the podcast where you... ah Just relitigate everything you talked about, every story you've told about him, and we just get his side. we get all of it. He'll be like, no, wait a minute. That's not what happened.
01:24:01
Speaker
This is what happened. um Yeah, that would... Sorry. No, you you go ahead. No, I was going to say that that'd be entertaining.
01:24:12
Speaker
Yeah, you know, if I said it as a joke, but if you guys ever did it, I wouldn't be offended, you know, if you're like, hey, once a month, can we record ah relitigation of ah everything we discussed?
01:24:29
Speaker
Maybe the end of every season you guys go through and release a bonus episode where gives his side of the story. Maybe he'll jump on an episode with us. I'll ask him, ah see what he thinks. he He finally listened to all of our episodes, so um I don't know. Who knows? Maybe he'll jump on it, but if he does, oh my god. There's no joke that I can say that will top any of his, so...
01:24:58
Speaker
what ah What horror movies does he would you say that he loves? Really putting you on the spot now. Testing your knowledge of your husband. I'll cut it all out if you don't have an answer.
01:25:09
Speaker
i know, right? What the hell? Well, that's the thing. He doesn't really love horror milk. ah that See, I'm fucking up my words because now I'm nervous. um He doesn't like horror milk?
01:25:20
Speaker
Yes. The moo juice, the secret moo juice. He doesn't like horror, blah. He ah doesn't, like he'll watch horror films because i put them on, but he's more so of an an action-y film guy, a military film guy.
01:25:40
Speaker
So um it was actually funny because one film he wanted me to watch, he's like, this is my favorite film and I really want you to watch it'm like okay what is it and he said saving private ryan and i had never watched it so i'm like okay let's watch it and i was just traumatized the wildest shit ever in like the first 20 minutes exactly and then one of the kill scenes at the end where the guy stabs this other guy and i'm sorry i don't remember any of these people and their names but you have this bitch soldier who didn't even go to this guy's defense and
01:26:20
Speaker
And I looked at him and just said, why would you have me watch this? And he's he's just like, you have... is that one Is that Woody from Toy Story?
01:26:34
Speaker
Right. No, he was just like, um you know, you watch all these fucking horror films, but you can't watch this? I'm like, yeah, because I know that shit's fake. yeah I know this is fake, too, but I didn't want to watch this, though. Wow, that really fucked me up.
01:26:51
Speaker
but after one Warmer. War movies are very, very different. I can't always handle war movies um just because there's like a psychological like element of like what's happening to the characters that like really bothers me. so It's very specific to Vietnam War movies, though, like ah Apocalypse Now. It took a while for that movie to really work for me.
01:27:20
Speaker
um full me ah Full Metal Jacket, that's a movie where I found the end like deeply upsetting and other parts of that movie pretty upsetting. um World War two it's a bit more interesting.
01:27:34
Speaker
Like a war movie, Jarhead, there's some upsetting shit in that. there War movies have like stuff that's upsetting on a very like real level that horror movies... I mean, Terrifier, it's like you know you see a ah wax butt with a chainsaw going up it or whatever.
01:27:55
Speaker
oh man. ah He actually likes that movie. Yeah.
01:28:00
Speaker
um The terrifiers? Well, actually, i don't know if he likes them, but he became interested in them when someone started talking about it, so which surprised me because I had no interest in watching them.
01:28:14
Speaker
so that was do you watch Do you watch these movies that we talk about with your husband ever? um If I have it on and um he's home, he'll come and watch it, but then he's normally...
01:28:31
Speaker
he doing his own thing um so yeah but i want to i do want to watch um curse of chucky with him because we've watched it together before but i want his opinions on it now yeah i was gonna say if you guys ever watch them together like feel free to if he takes any notes to bring those to the table okay cool i'll i'll just plagiarize all of his shit but No, just fully be like, I have notes from Adrian.
01:29:01
Speaker
I think that would be ah pretty fun addition to the show. Yeah. I'm going to see what he says. I'm going to make him watch the movie with me and just jot down everything he says.
01:29:13
Speaker
Nice. Well, hell yeah. It's a pretty chill end of the episode. Should we insult each other or something before we wrap up?
01:29:24
Speaker
Um...
01:29:27
Speaker
I'm always right. Is this too nice of an ending? i'm always right, even when I'm wrong. And, you know, Nick will come to terms with that one day.
01:29:38
Speaker
ah Except when it comes to Seed of Chucky. Um... Mercedes, I just can only hope and pray that one day you will find clarity or, you know, much like I needed to find sobriety, i hope one day you find Seed of Chucky in your heart.
01:30:03
Speaker
We are morbid curiosities. Yeah.
01:30:09
Speaker
Thank you.