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The Final Destination
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they discuss definitive(?) Final Destination movie, The Final Destination! Bad 3D gimmicks aside, how did this one sit with your hosts? Listen and find out! This is a pretty loose episode.
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Introduction & Personal Reflections
00:01:11
Speaker
What's up party people? We're Morbid Curiosities, your favorite horror movie podcast, bringing you another episode. I'm one of your hosts, Nicholas Ewers, and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the morbid mistress of mayhem herself.
00:01:24
Speaker
Mercedes Martinez. swear, every time I say my name now, I kind of pause because I'm thinking of your introduction for me, and I'm like, it doesn't sound right unless he says it now.
00:01:37
Speaker
Wow, that made me sound so full of myself. I probably shouldn't have said that, but anyway... How are you doing today? No, I mean, if people stayed till the end of, I think it was Final Destination, not to be mistaken with the movie we're covering today, the Final Destination, but our Final Destination episode at the very end after our music, I include some bloopers and i fuck up the nicknames and I had to start over because it doesn't feel right not doing the two nicknames.
00:02:08
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's weird. I always hear that in my head now when I know someone's going to ask my full government name and everything. But yeah, anyway, how are you
Critique of 'The Final Destination'
00:02:20
Speaker
today? You seem pretty hyped for this episode.
00:02:23
Speaker
Yeah, i I guess hyped is a word you could use. I told you before I started recording that I was dealing with a little bit of a panic attack, so I'm coming down from that a little bit, but Yeah, I've been thinking about this movie for a long time, actually, and I'm glad that it's finally brought to the table. I want to say I've been thinking about this movie since before we even even pitched it as a season.
00:02:52
Speaker
But I mean, aside from that, like, how are you doing? How are you feeling about everything we're about to accomplish today? I don't even know where the fuck to start. Yes, I do. What the fuck did I watch for this episode?
00:03:07
Speaker
I'm trying not to be loud and like scream in my mic like I always do. But literally, what the fuck is this movie, man? Like, oh, please tell me your thoughts on this movie.
00:03:19
Speaker
Yeah, this movie is... Man, we're hopping right into it. This is... I guess we gotta be quicker in this one. This movie is a real stinker.
00:03:32
Speaker
i guess that's the appropriate word to use for this movie. I was gonna use something a bit harsher. it. Like, this movie blows, or this movie's terrible. I feel like stinker is what this movie deserves, though, because...
00:03:47
Speaker
It's not even bad in an interesting way. It is so uninterestingly bad. It's a real you know a real stinker in my eyes. and what We'll get fully into it, I guess. but yeah That's the note I'm going to start this this thing on.
00:04:08
Speaker
but What are your thoughts on The Final Destination? but I kept saying leading up to this episode, this was the one that I didn't watch. I actually did watch but bits and pieces of it before, so it is going to be the next one that we covered that I did not watch.
00:04:27
Speaker
But this one, rewatching it in its entirety, I don't have a lot of brain cells left, but I lost the tiny bit of cells that I do have remaining watching this how how long is this film this was a good chunk of my life an hour and 22 minutes of my life that was wasted watching this film an hour 22 feels interminably long like this movie i just wanted it to end so much by the end of it i was like come on thank you and already just end and then they keep it going i'm like No, why?
00:05:11
Speaker
and it's I think the shortest out of all of the ones we've watched. and It's just so bad. like you know I can still enjoy a movie where it has characters making stupid decisions,
00:05:24
Speaker
But this one, everyone made the dumbest decision ever, and it just does not work for me at all. This is going to be one movie that I never watch again.
Director, 3D Effects & Audience Reactions
00:05:39
Speaker
i hate this film.
00:05:41
Speaker
Yeah, I think we so we're both in agreement. This, by far, is the worst in the series and a contender for one of the biggest stinkers we've covered on this podcast. It's right up there with Sinister 2 and Child's Play 3.
00:05:58
Speaker
I would actually rewatch Child's Play 3 instead of this ever again. You know, I gotta be there with you, too, because Child's Play 3 at least has a ah ah Charles, or as they call him in the movies, Chucky.
00:06:13
Speaker
I don't know. I'd rather re-watch any of them over Sinister 2, I think, so that's gotta be at the very bottom of the list for me. That movie is just so nothing. But that this movie's right there with it. It feels like it was...
00:06:29
Speaker
fabricated by the studio. They're bringing back the director from number two, David R. Ellis, and it feels like a real for hire job. This movie is like, there was clearly a 3D gimmick That was in this movie when it originally released in theaters that does not play well and takes away so much of like directive creativity. I mean, this guy's responsible for one of the best sequences in the series, the opening sequence of number two. So it's like...
00:07:04
Speaker
just This movie feels like such a poor faith like studio attempt to make a Final Destination sequel, and it just turned out really fucking bad.
00:07:16
Speaker
There's like no vision to it at all. and There are ah ah selected few out there that actually enjoy this film. um um I know someone who told me they love this film. It's like their favorite Final Destination film, but this was while they were telling me they hate horrible horror movies.
00:07:38
Speaker
Wait, they said this is their favorite Final Destination movie? Yeah, because they like horrible films. Oh, they enjoy horrible movies?
Character Analysis & Plot Criticism
00:07:51
Speaker
can't relate to that, but there are people out there that exist. I have like a distant cousin who was like, the room is a masterpiece, and she said that with in all like sincere she said it in all seriousness with so much sincerity, and I was just like, I can't talk to you about movies anymore.
00:08:11
Speaker
Yeah, i thought he was joking at first, but no, he flat out told me, like, I love shitty movies. Like, he is also a fan of Seed of Chucky. He thinks that one is the best one in that franchise. so Well, that movie is a masterpiece, so, I mean... yeah it that's That's the exception to his rule, it sounds like.
00:08:34
Speaker
We don't have to say a masterpiece. Oh, my God. We're throwing the M word around. Whatever floats your boat, Nicholas. This terrible.
00:08:47
Speaker
this one terrible It makes me just kind of curious how my own ranking is going to be once we finish all of the Final Destination films, because so far the main one that I'm enjoying is part three, and that means the rest of them in my eyes aren't great. So it's going to be an interesting turnout when we rate these.
00:09:11
Speaker
I've already got my rankings kind of figured out by now, and I've got my opinions of the next one ah ah solidified a little bit. So I won't go into any detail about that, but I promise you there's a light at the end of this tunnel.
00:09:25
Speaker
the you know Even though this is the final destination and it sounds like it's the last movie in the series, um I promise you there's there's more to come.
00:09:36
Speaker
the the A little life gets injected into this thing. The funny thing too is i didn't want to buy this film because i kept hearing you know that this one was the bad one, even though I kept mixing it up between this one and part five.
00:09:52
Speaker
I just ordered it to watch it, but when hit the rent or whatever, it's at the final destination. I'm like, wait a minute. It was supposed to be final destination four. Did I order the wrong one? I swear I clicked on the right image.
00:10:10
Speaker
And then I'm like looking it up on my phone just to double check. And I'm like, wait a minute. This part is called the final destination. And in my head, I was thinking, oh, yeah, because the most recent one was called final destination bloodlines.
00:10:25
Speaker
So mini heart attack right there because I thought I wasted $4. But what a ballsy move to call this the final destination.
00:10:36
Speaker
Well, 5 is just called Final Destination 5. They don't give it a subtitle or anything. They just go right back to the numbers thing. Like, they didn't drop it one movie prior. It's weird that this one is the Final Destination. I'm surprised didn't call it, like, Final Destination 3D or something shitty like that to really match how bad this movie is.
00:11:01
Speaker
But it's just the Final Destination. Yeah, and I don't mind it when they have numbers after the title. I think when they do like the little subtitle, it's kind of weird to me sometimes. Sometimes they work, but to go from Final Destination 1, 2, 3, the Final Destination, and then Final Destination 5, and then Final Destination Bloodlines, make up your fucking mind. Pick numbers or pick subtitles.
00:11:31
Speaker
For any of our listeners who may be confused right now, this is the fourth final destination that we're covering in the series.
Setting, Stereotypes & Death Comparisons
00:11:40
Speaker
I don't know if we fully said the number, but also we might as well just drop it now. Spoilers ahead.
00:11:46
Speaker
If you've never seen this one, who gives a shit? Listen to the rest of the podcast. We watched it for you. We did the work. and we're going to tell you everything that happens.
00:11:58
Speaker
I mean, the movie kicks off on a real high note. It opens with a Shinedown song. Mercedes, are you a big fan ah of Shinedown? I'm not a big fan, but I do like their music when I hear it. They have some good bangers. But yeah, I was wondering what you were going to say about that because I love what you say whenever there's a good opening song to a movie.
00:12:21
Speaker
So I've actually seen Shined On Live a couple of times. I didn't go for them, but they were on just like some festival shows that I went to. And I've never like fully minded their music. The song that's in this one is Devour. i actually kind of like this the song in a different context. For this, I think it's just a bad choice to start this movie on. It's like, no never devour.
00:12:44
Speaker
just do dad rock it's like you might as well have opened with fucking creed even though scream 3 has creed in it and that's a significantly better movie than this so i don't know what to tell you but yeah i don't hate the song but god the combination of shine down and devour i was just like this movie feels racist to me Yeah, that's actually funny because like i won't jump too far ahead, but i always watch
00:13:20
Speaker
CinemaSins on movies that I like, and it makes me laugh because for every movie, he drops a that's racist type of line when he's commenting on like whatever scene he's And he does say that a lot for this one. Like, yeah, we have the one racist guy in the beginning.
00:13:44
Speaker
And then that same guy later or no, later on, once the main character is having like his premonitions of the one guy, the the security guard, George Lanter,
00:14:00
Speaker
He dies right after his premonition and his comment was like, well, you know, this guy had enough time to have his premonition right when the guy behind him was getting hit by a bus or ambulance, which just goes to show that his premonitions are racist. So, yeah, a lot of racism.
00:14:23
Speaker
ah ah I'll get into the premonitions a second because I think this movie just takes them too far. But like in regard to the racism, like i know we're ah ah touching on this pretty hard, but I mean, there's a lot of like weird racist remarks said in this movie to the point where like there's a racist character who's Actually, like burning cross on a black or attempting to burn a cross on a black character's yard. He says the N word at one point in this movie. It feels very like, OK, there's a more nuanced way ah to do a racist. I get this as a Final Destination movie, but it felt like so jarring.
00:15:12
Speaker
And then there's an old man near the end of the movie who's about to get into a bathtub. And then he just starts saying racist shit to a Chinese man who's assisting him. And I was just like, are we supposed to laugh at this? What is happening here? This feels really weird.
00:15:31
Speaker
Yeah, even with that part, I won't go too crazy on it, but i was just surprised because it's like, why do we keep making these comments towards different races?
00:15:43
Speaker
That's pretty tasteless to do when we're not really focusing on the topic of racism for this film.
Relationships & Emotional Scenes
00:15:50
Speaker
and Then- Like two seconds later, I'm starting to feel bad for this old guy just because of how he looks, knowing like, yo, this tub is filling up and overflowing.
00:16:00
Speaker
I was happy to see though that old guy go. I was like, come on, let's get this guy out of here. Like, we don't, what are we doing? Yeah, kill him already. Why did we bring him here? Yeah.
00:16:13
Speaker
I think I just felt bad because i genuinely hate seeing elderly people in a dangerous situation like that just because of their facial expressions and then their...
00:16:29
Speaker
feebleness it just freaks me out so that was the only reason why other than that the guy was a dick yeah but he was racist so as far as I'm concerned he could you know he deserved that bath death he deserved to be in it and to have it fall on him at the same time if that would have been possible I actually thought you know he would have fell with the ceiling along with it but That would have been a cool way to die.
00:17:00
Speaker
Anyway, back to the intro scene. so Basically, it's this big like NASCAR race. and I wrote down in my notes, like David R. Alice, he just loves his car wrecks. Both times, you see it from a mile away.
00:17:15
Speaker
The setup is the least believable, I think, out of the four movies that we've watched so far. It's the only one that doesn't feel scary. Not everyone's going to go to a NASCAR event.
00:17:26
Speaker
People have genuine fears of flying roller coasters and now because of Final Destination driving behind log trucks. I mean, there was probably still that subconscious fear, but now it's like been brought to people's attention and probably created a fear within people. But this one, not many people are going to find themselves at a racing event. It's a pretty niche thing.
00:17:52
Speaker
And then the way everything like gets destroyed. Like I said, there's no like imagination to any of the deaths in the intro. It's explosions and like tires flying at the screen for 3d or poles sticking out and stabbing through people because of 3d. Like what year did this come out in?
00:18:13
Speaker
It's like, 2009. So this is the Avatar year. I assume it came out after Avatar because that was around Christmas time. So it probably wasn't even good 3D. I don't know if they were like if there was just in general big craze, but it felt like the whole intro just felt cheap to me and bad. And I i knew we were just off to a rough start when we were at a racing track. And I was just like, OK, I could never picture myself being here.
00:18:43
Speaker
It was such a strange setup. and Then even with our cast that we are given, they yeah were terrible. You don't have anyone that you really like. and For me, the only face I knew was Nick Zanno.
00:19:03
Speaker
Did not know the and the other three or even the other like cast members in here, but nothing about them, like what they were saying, what they were doing, nothing made me want to continue watching this film except...
00:19:20
Speaker
for the sake of the podcast. Everyone had something stupid to say. All the characters, most of the characters were obnoxious. ah ah Even the main couple, Nick O'Bannon O'Bannon and ah what's her name? Lori.
00:19:36
Speaker
Them being together, they, to me, have no chemistry at all. It's just they were being gushy for no reason. i did not like any of these fucking people in here.
00:19:49
Speaker
And Not to be bogus, but Nick O'Bannon's – Bobby Campo, I'm saying and going back and forth on their names. But, like, he barely showed any emotion in here whatsoever. When he had his premonition, he was perfectly fine.
00:20:06
Speaker
When he was panicking, quote, unquote, perfectly fine. at least in the other films, when one of the characters had a premonition, once, once like, they snapped out of it, they were, like – Breathing heavily, like hyperventilating, they're fucking crying or sweating. This guy shows nothing is alarming him.
00:20:29
Speaker
So again, i didn't buy anything from these actors in here. and to touch a little bit on something you mentioned, the chemistry between Nick and Laurie At times I forgot that they were even ah ah dating and in a relationship. At the end, she calls him babe at one point. I'm like, oh yeah, they're dating. I mean, they don't even seem like they've fucking like slept together at all or maybe even kissed. They seem like they're in the hand-holding phase or like they're kind of acquaintances. it's very weird. They don't seem like a couple.
00:21:07
Speaker
Exactly. That's why when they have that little moment where her friend is like, oh, chivalry isn't dead after all, chiv chivalry. And she's like, what are you talking about? Like, I have my cowboy right here. And then she starts making out with him.
00:21:22
Speaker
It was... stupid to one say that line. I thought that was such a poorly written line. And then, yeah, you don't feel any chemistry from them.
00:21:34
Speaker
And then even later on, there's a scene at their apartment where she doesn't have any pants on. So it's literally camera view just so you could see her pantsless.
00:21:47
Speaker
But it's like, okay, we get you guys are supposed to be a couple, but you're not selling that you're a couple. Yeah, that's not really sold too well. And the other characters too, just everybody except for George, I would say is pretty unlikable.
00:22:06
Speaker
Like ah ah i grew to kind of appreciate the mom a little bit just because of how clueless Just like her cluelessness
Fan Reactions & Humorous Observations
00:22:17
Speaker
to how unlikable and rude she was, I found pretty entertaining. I'm like, okay, I like this character. just i mean, the rock to the face in front of her kids I thought was a little too much. i was like, oh man, her kids have to live with that shit for the rest of her life.
00:22:36
Speaker
But her and fucking... car wash lady, i don't remember her name, Janet, her and Janet were two where I was like, okay, I'm kind of not hating you and you guys seem like you're the most capable actors in this thing and you kind of are carrying it with a little bit of charisma whereas everybody else in this movie is just a vacuum of charisma.
00:23:04
Speaker
You see, i'm happy that the mom died. Her kids probably hated her because you know she's the type of woman to say, oh, boy, stick tampons in your ears.
00:23:15
Speaker
Ew, get the fuck out of here. You deserve to die. No, your kids didn't deserve to- They weren't used tampons. Still, that's disgusting. You are setting your kids up for failure. They are going to get bullied. What if- What if there were kids from their school at this race?
00:23:33
Speaker
What if an adult was a douchebag enough to go up to them and just start making fun of them? I don't think their mom would have been one to stop them. She probably would have laughed along with this douchebag. So no, she deserved to die. They didn't deserve to watch their mom die.
00:23:50
Speaker
But she was probably a cunt bucket to begin with. She had a pretty easy death. I mean, the rock to the face, she was just dead instantly. But yeah, I just kept thinking like how horrifying that would be for the kids to witness. And oh, man, the casualness of the fucking lawnmower guy, the landscaper just riding along, didn't even notice. It was just like kind of upsetting to me how absolutely pointless ah ah her death was to every single person around her.
00:24:21
Speaker
No, like her death was kind of stupid. I wish she had more of like a banger type of death because she deserved it.
00:24:32
Speaker
Just being a service provider myself, guys, I'm an esthetician, merciless aesthetics. But the fact that, you know, she's one of those women that's like, oh yeah, let me come in When they're like about to close, let me come to get my hair done and then just be like, oh, la-di-da, everything's like fine and dandy.
00:24:55
Speaker
You have the one hairstylist. Of course, she's a goth girl seems kind of like a bitch. That I didn't agree with because it's like, okay, she also shouldn't be like treating a customer like that just because it's getting towards the end of her shift.
00:25:11
Speaker
But this woman, are you going to go there? and like expect them to work on you and then have your kids fucking come in and wreak havoc on the place.
00:25:24
Speaker
It's their fault. they Something spilled on the ground. I forgot what it was, and one of her sons slipped on it. it was like some type of lotion or gel.
00:25:35
Speaker
Okay, yeah. And then imagine what these workers felt like after cleaning that and then after witnessing this woman's death, like, damn it, now we got to clean this. They probably didn't clean it because that's above their pay grade, Anna Hazard, but yeah, she deserved to die.
00:25:56
Speaker
So you mentioned the lady being kind of rude when she walked in. i have a quick question for you. What is your policy on walking into a place late, like like but right before they're about to close? How do you feel about that?
00:26:09
Speaker
For my business personally or in general? i guess both ends of it. They kind of go like hand in hand for places of employment. Obviously, they are, you know, worried about the business and they want to make as much money as possible.
00:26:26
Speaker
So they have a type of late policy and they'll still want to see someone if they can. that bothers me because then it's like, okay, well, i have to stay later because this person was late or that messes up my schedule if I have people after.
00:26:44
Speaker
Like, that's not fair. Because realistically, no one wants to stay working somewhere after they know they are supposed to leave. No one wants to stay late. But the attitude that you have and, you know, give off will make or break that experience. So it's not saying I'll be an asshole to the person who did come in late if you are still going to see them.
00:27:07
Speaker
My own personal policy is for people, and I've been lenient with it right now, but for people just to be on time, if they're a few minutes late, that's fine.
00:27:19
Speaker
But the more people that I have been booking, You know, if someone's late, then i can only give you the remaining amount of time. If you are like 10 minutes late, then I can't see you because, you know, someone else is after you. So this is ah business, you know, treat people.
00:27:41
Speaker
uh, with respect or like respect the person that you're going to for a service. that way, you know, they can give you their full time and energy that you deserve. But if you're just going to be like, Oh, whatever with time, then, you know, you're not going to get the service that you technically feel like you deserve.
00:27:59
Speaker
Yeah, so basically, respect the constitution of an appointment, basically. I had a situation where I was going into a disc replay. I'll say the name of their place. Yeah, disc replay.
00:28:11
Speaker
I was walking in, and they had five minutes to close, and I knew what item I was going to buy anyway. So i walk in, and there's a guy by the door, and he's like, hey, you know, we close in five minutes. And he said it like real shitty, like, you should probably leave. And I was like...
00:28:25
Speaker
Okay, it means I got five minutes to grab my thing and check out then. Cool. like like To me, that's different. You're technically open. yeah yeah It's different than an appointment. and Yeah, because you, well, one, already knew what you were going to get, so you can technically go to the section, find like the alphabetized little cardboard thingy or whatever, and then find your Yeah.
00:28:51
Speaker
so That's different, but for that person to be an asshole, like like I said, people don't want to like stay or do anything extra, which I understand, but you also don't need to be a dick about it to the person.
00:29:06
Speaker
I mean, maybe I deserve to have a projectile thrown through my eye and, you know, killed instantly. But who knows? That's listeners. Let me know. Did I deserve that in the moment when I walked into disc replay? Write in and let me know if I deserved certain death for that.
00:29:24
Speaker
You know, I choose for people to get killed in a lot of movies. i wouldn't choose death for you, man. Like in that situation, of course, I wouldn't choose death. So, you know, guys, back me up.
00:29:40
Speaker
What do you guys think? Should he have gotten certain death that day? Yeah. What? Just listen to what he said. Yeah, but but ah that that was a good sidebar.
00:29:52
Speaker
But anything else
Film Execution & Personal Anecdotes
00:29:53
Speaker
you want to talk about? That's it. That's the whole movie, right? We talked about everything. Pretty much. They just have like little tiny nods back to the first first and second movies. so We're done.
00:30:08
Speaker
We've been morbid curiosities. Yeah. no so yeah Basically, i mean before we get into more of the deaths, because I guess that's really the only thing we have to talk about, a couple of the deaths and how the movie ends. Yeah.
00:30:26
Speaker
So I'll say couple of things that really annoyed me real quick. I've touched on both of them a little bit. And I'm curious how you feel about both of them. So I'll start with the 3D element.
00:30:38
Speaker
I feel like it just, I mean, I've said it already. I feel like it totally weighed down any interesting kill that this movie really could have had because they were just hell bent on ruining it with a, fucking you know thing coming at the audience or whatever i mean how did you feel about the 3D did it work for you at all I don't really like when films are in 3D because just me personally, I don't really care to see a movie in 3D. I'd rather you know experience like a live action type of ride instead of seeing a 3D film.
00:31:12
Speaker
so That on its own does bother me too. and Then, yeah just like all the digital effects for these deaths, it just looked amazing.
00:31:25
Speaker
so corny and so generic. Yeah, just so you can have, you know, like a pole sticking out of this guy's body and you feel like, oh my God, it's coming to you or a piece of wood or scissors, whatever. All of it was bad. i really hated that. So it did make the movie like 10 times worse because of that.
00:31:48
Speaker
Yeah, and the you know filter looked really weird for me. I can't tell if it was the movie or the fact that I had on my Spy Kids 3D glasses trying to get the 3D to work, but it was like blue and red the whole time. I didn't know what to make of it. I was like, what's with this blue in one eye and red in the other? i didn't get it You have those still? Oh my god, that is awesome.
00:32:12
Speaker
I tried to buy them, actually, because these guys got juice back when we had like originally started, was going to cover all the Spy Kids movies. And we stopped after Spy Kids 2. We realized that they were like just so hard to talk about while we were doing commentaries. It was just not what I thought they were going to be.
00:32:30
Speaker
So I didn't end up buying the... I actually... I did buy Spy Kids 3D with the glasses, but the person who I bought it from canceled the order on Mercari or whatever. So I didn't end up getting it, actually.
00:32:43
Speaker
But I thought it was a good bit for the podcast. You know, shout out to the Spy Kids 3 heads. You know, that one's in three d Hey, I loved Spy Kids. Not 3D, but I loved the first one. it was strange its a little random side tangent. When it came out, I don't know how old I was, but I think I was in like second grade or something. and One of my friends, i had asked her, like do you want to come to the movies with me? Because my my dad's letting me bring a friend. and She's like, yeah, I'll
00:33:14
Speaker
He bought us tickets so we could see Spy Kids. And he bought us candy too. And he put his jacket on the chair next to me so he can go and see whatever other movie he wants. I'm like, oh my God, I feel like an adult now.
00:33:30
Speaker
And then it was just so random because I'm eating my candy. And then when I look over, my friend didn't even have hers. i'm like, where's your candy? And she's like, oh, i have it under my leg.
00:33:42
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It's like, why? she's like, I don't know. And then later, once she got it out, she's like, do you want some? And it was a melted like cookies and cream Hershey. I'm like, no, I don't want that. But yeah, that's what I always think of when I think back to Spy Kids.
00:33:56
Speaker
What? Your friend? I mean, you guys must have been pretty young though, so it's understandable. this I imagine like an adult doing this and I was like, why would they have candy under their leg?
00:34:09
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Yeah, I don't know. i think she nice yeah I think she was intentionally trying to melt it, but and don't think she meant to melt that much. Yeah, it was weird.
00:34:21
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Has this person been thrown in jail yet for some sort of crime? No, she's actually turned into a lovely lady. i I don't talk to her anymore, but I do have her on Instagram. so I do see like bits and pieces, but yeah.
00:34:37
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It's an interesting upbringing we had. Yeah, enjoying your chocolate melted. That's a a restable offense in my book. Anything white chocolate is an restable offense because white chocolate is a granny flavor.
00:34:50
Speaker
You hear that, listeners? If you like white chocolate, Mercedes thinks you should all be round up and thrown in prison. I didn't say all that. I just said it's a granny flavor. Why do you always have to come at me like that? That is so rude. You're going to stand outside of every local Walgreens with a pair of handcuffs, checking people's shopping bags. Every time you see white chocolate, you make a citizen's arrest. The local police are like, stop bringing people here. We're going to arrest you.
00:35:18
Speaker
No, man. White chocolate is nasty. it's I don't know how anyone gets on that bandwagon. Yeah, man, there will be people who who will like buy white chocolate Reese's, and I'm like, damn, you just bought a perfectly ruined Reese's right there. Exactly.
00:35:33
Speaker
You could have just thrown your money right in the garbage if you wanted to. Exactly. Those are disgusting. I tried one once because my brother just loves them for some reason.
00:35:46
Speaker
i wanted to throw that shit up, so yeah. We don't do white chocolate over here. It's nasty. Yeah, if you give me a white chocolate Reese's, I'll ask for like a potato peeler and I'll peel the chocolate off of it and just eat the peanut butter. you Peanut butter works, man. It's for the gains. Oh, man, this is a real tangenty episode. It's calling back to our Child's Play 2019 days when we really didn't want to talk about the movie.
00:36:23
Speaker
But we got some good side tangents. I mean, in my opinion, sometimes I'm like, yeah, sometimes when we go off, I'm like, damn, maybe we didn't need to go that hard on like what we were thinking or like that story probably didn't need to be included. But this movie sucks so bad. It's hard to derail, not to derail. This is gonna be a shorter episode and we still gotta pad this thing out to get to an hour 20 at least or whatever.
00:36:54
Speaker
oh man. We can get through some of this other shit though. My Spy Kids 3D glasses bit really ruined the podcast.
00:37:05
Speaker
and ah We're on white chocolate Reese's somehow. That's what they come here for. Yeah, it'll be fun to track how we got there. Yeah, our listeners like to hear us go off on random shit, hopefully. Yeah.
00:37:21
Speaker
So I had another ah complaint too. We can just get through real quick. I've made comments about them leaning towards like a dead zone thing with the premonitions and they just fully do it. This character is just getting premonitions every two seconds. I think it's just utterly like stupid.
00:37:40
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I don't know. Sorry to like call it stupid before asking like what you think of it because I don't want to like set you up with a criticism to part. but I'll try to do that a little less, but you already know what I thought about this.
00:37:53
Speaker
I fucking hated that. and I'm always like ripping on scenes before i hear your thoughts on it, so it's okay. That annoyed me so much because once the second premonition happened, ah was like, wait a minute.
00:38:11
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What? like It just felt different than the other ones. So, like yeah, the first one, Alex has the first premonition, but then he was seeing signs everywhere. The second one, same director I know, it's... a What's her name? Kimberly. She was having premonitions every so often.
00:38:33
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Did not care for that either. the third one yeah she goes back to just seeing like signs. and Then in this one, i don't know, every two seconds, he was having like a vision. and and Even the visions were garbage.
00:38:51
Speaker
Oh, yes, dude. They were terrible. and One thing that I thought would be cool was like, oh, someone's going to get eaten by an anaconda or something because I saw a snake in there. Yes.
00:39:04
Speaker
The little hissing thing, I was like, oh, cool. What is that? and Then it was just because of the ambulance symbol. I'm like, are you serious? You just killed what could have been a badass, brutal death here.
00:39:17
Speaker
I thought that exact same thing when I was watching it for the podcast because I had watched it with my girlfriend a couple months back and that's when I really i was like oh man this one's a real stinker but ah when I was re-watching it I saw that clearly for 3d really bad cgi i shot of
Franchise Comparison & Script Weaknesses
00:39:38
Speaker
the snake i was like well i know someone doesn't die with this by a snake i was like this is so bad what kind of premonition is that and i knew i just pieced it together i'm like that's like a hospital symbol or whatever i was like this is horseshit what kind of
00:39:54
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Like, his premonitions are abstract and in 3D. Oh, the what this is so stupid. And then Lori also starts ah ah seeing things too. And it's like so now we're sharing the the premonitions?
00:40:10
Speaker
Yeah, I thought that was strange as well because it's like, all right, in the first one, at least clear was... she started to see little signs and, you know, pick up on these strange feelings at the end of the movie.
00:40:27
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And then that's basically how she was in part two once she left that asylum she was at. But in here, it's like, okay, wait, why does his girlfriend now share the same capabilities to see what's going to happen in the future? Yeah.
00:40:45
Speaker
as this guy i thought we were focusing on him now we're gonna be following you around like i fucking forgot you existed in this world so yeah but the fact that their visions were in 3d it pissed me off even more it's like i get it you guys are making a 3d movie but those are just so fucking bad You know what it all feels like?
00:41:09
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it It all feels like some real dumb studio exec was like, we need, this needs more. Final Destination needs more. This has to be the Final Destination. It has to be in 3D.
00:41:25
Speaker
It needs more premonitions. More characters need to be having premonitions. More explosions. More of this. More, and it... It's just like, it seems like it just is doing what the other three do, except it's more, more, more, and it is just bad. It's bad results because of it, I would say.
00:41:44
Speaker
Because this movie, like, lot of the kills are a bit more, and like, grand, I'd say. There's not, there's still the Rube Goldberg aspect to but it just...
00:41:56
Speaker
It feels like they wanted everything to feel bigger. Everything feels more explosive in this one. This is a perfect example of less does not equal or less is more here. like They have too much going on and that doesn't mean it's going to be better. like That just made it way too over the top, it too excessive and it it was just too much. Yeah.
00:42:25
Speaker
Yeah, I don't even think I enjoyed any kill scene in here because of how crappy and generic all the kill scenes looked. I have two that I enjoyed, and they're at the bottom of any of the kill sequences that I've enjoyed and like thus far.
00:42:47
Speaker
But the car wash sequence, which I guess you could say isn't a kill sequence, I enjoyed that whole thing. That one in the end where the semi-truck is going through the window, I was like, okay, this movie has two scenarios that are at least one like believable or memorable. like That car wash thing, I think, is the only thing people remember from this movie.
00:43:13
Speaker
And they probably don't even remember that it's in this movie. They probably think it's in three or five or something, and they never made a fourth Final Destination. But then just the semi-truck going through the shop at the very end, the, like, final kill.
00:43:30
Speaker
That one it's just something I've thought about from time to time. Over by where my girlfriend lives, a somebody drove their car through, like, a Portillo's and, like, hurt and killed several people.
00:43:44
Speaker
And so that was something i'm like, okay, that, like... I get that. You could have played more on that, but the movie was insistent on going big. yeah the The car wash one I just thought was fun, and I was genuinely like, oh my god, get out of this, because this looks like it fucking sucks.
00:44:02
Speaker
So I actually have a few things to say about both of those. So with the car wash scene, that was stupid on its own because the girl Janet was clearly having an issue with her window, like the sunroof thing, not closing, and then pays for her car wash before she confirmed that her window will exactly or will actually close.
00:44:29
Speaker
It was closing while she was going in there. That is such a dumb ass move on your part. She deserved to die. was mad that she made it out. But with... Yes, see, I choose violence.
00:44:42
Speaker
But with the ending, how the semi-truck does crash into them, and then all of a sudden it's like an X-ray type of screen where you see all three of them, like how they die.
00:44:56
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I thought that was a little cool, so I do take it back. That one was cool, but it it was kind of like how they did the opening credits where they were doing x-rays of the previous deaths all the other movies.
00:45:14
Speaker
so you saw like Todd's yeah um um and you know the nail gun and everything. I liked seeing that because it's like, all right, well, maybe the movie will redeem itself just by those little clips.
00:45:27
Speaker
No, it just, that was the highlight of the film, honestly. Yeah, the opening credits were the highlight of the movie. I completely agree with you there. You took the words right out of my mouth.
00:45:39
Speaker
But even like, so there there are two kills right here I'll throw out there that I think are pretty bad. the the racist with the tow truck.
00:45:50
Speaker
He's going to burn the cross on George's yard. And like, I don't know, his shit happens. There's a leak and he ends up getting tied to his tow truck as it's moving and a lighter in his pocket goes off and he burns alive while being dragged across the street while like just a really bad on the nose needle drop ends up playing. What is it?
00:46:16
Speaker
i don't remember it's like oh why can't we be friends that's what it is i was just like okay that is a really bad needle drop and then uh the mechanic guy he you think the van is gonna back up against him when he or back up on him when he's right up against the uh fence it doesn't then a projectile shoots at him and cubes him I mean, we saw that in the second one. A dude gets cubed by a fucking fence.
00:46:44
Speaker
I don't know if we've seen a guy get lit on fire, but it's i mean pretty underwhelming to me. Yes, and then it was funny too because they named the racist character Carter.
00:46:57
Speaker
Why would you name another person in here Carter when there's clearly a character in the first one named Carter who's very notorious for his name because you get fucking Stifler almost in every scene saying, Carter, you dick. so Why would you have- an even more unlikable character with that same name in here. That kind of annoyed me.
00:47:22
Speaker
he's just quoteed or He's just named racist for me on Letterboxd. So yours and my character's names are different because we already said like the mom, her name was Milf on Letterboxd. We talked about that before we started recording.
00:47:40
Speaker
So it's weird the differences in these. Someone over at Letterbikes really yeah took away some agency from some of these characters.
00:47:51
Speaker
Yeah, i just I just pulled up the cast on online, and so that's probably why. yeah, yeah i I don't know. I hated the mechanic's death too because, yeah okay, we had a fake-out death and then his actual death was so unbelievable.
00:48:15
Speaker
It's like, okay... yeah we Like you said, we have had someone get cubed before. This one kind of reminded me of the captain's death in Resident Evil when like that laser went all crazy and then sliced him open and you just see him falling apart in the reflection of the room that they were in.
00:48:41
Speaker
Damn, I want to watch Resident Evil now. but yeah though That scene sucked too. Which one, the Resident Evil one or the Final Destination one? Final Destination. Sorry, I should have clarified that. But no, um i love the original Resident Evil.
00:48:57
Speaker
I wasn't sure because this movie is so good. i was just trying to think of what bad part you might have been talking about. Oh, yeah, that's right. You, too, also like crappy horror films. No, I, no. Seed of Chucky is so bad. That is not master masterpiece.
00:49:16
Speaker
No, it's not. one of our most downloaded episodes for a reason, you know, to give the listeners a peek behind the curtain. Yeah. Oh my god, okay. I'm not going to say anything else. You have your opinion. I have mine. Mine's the more accurate one.
00:49:34
Speaker
It's okay. If we're going by downloads, it's the second most popular in the series. The second most popular? Which one is the first again? The original.
00:49:45
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. But the second? Wow. Okay. Yeah. So, hey, guys, if you haven't, check out our Seed of Chucky episode. You know, it's one of our more popular ones. People seem to like it. Nick's favorite. Yes, Nick's favorite. Please go listen. If you want to hear me praise Glenda, you know, finish this episode first. I but promise it's getting good. You know, this episode is just about to get good.
00:50:11
Speaker
Oh my god, this episode is just going to be us laughing the whole time with how terrible this movie is. I know. I mean, I love the spirit in this one, though. I didn't know ah ah what I was going to say.
00:50:24
Speaker
But I mean, i think this is, you know, i said this already on a different episode. I can't remember which one. This is like, we're just walking down the memory lanes of our old episodes on this one.
00:50:36
Speaker
Yeah. This is like, a it's like one of those episodes on TV where they just reminisce about everything that happened earlier that season. That's what this episode is for our podcast.
00:50:49
Speaker
A clip show. That's what it's called. Pretty much. Yeah, because there's nothing good to take away from this movie. But I yeah didn't know what we were going to talk about, but.
00:51:00
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, we've covered... Oh, what I was going to say is we're the best thing associated with this movie. This episode of this podcast is the best thing associated with this movie.
00:51:12
Speaker
Everything in here tasteless, stupid. i'm trying I'm also trying to not say you know people or you know works of art are stupid, but my God, this is just unforgivable with like how corny it is. and i get they were trying to go like more comedy in here, but it doesn't work when you have ah ah shitty dialogue a non-impressive cast and just there's not even a real storyline in here. When they, the couple, they go to, you know, George lantern Lanter's house to, I don't know, check on him, talk to him, whatever,
00:52:01
Speaker
And then he was trying to commit suicide apparently all day. they you know, come to the conclusion like, okay, well, you know, it must be over.
00:52:12
Speaker
And then they're having champagne or whatever together. you The girl was just like, yeah, you know, we're going to do some traveling. And all of a sudden it cuts to her boyfriend packing up so they can go travel.
00:52:25
Speaker
Like, what is the time frame in this film? Because that literally looked like it was the next day that that was happening. So no good storyline to follow.
00:52:36
Speaker
Yeah, I'm so happy. I'm just stuck on the part where you called this a work of art. Oh, I didn't mean it. This thing is a work of art. I just mean in general because I know I've bashed people and movies before. I'm trying not to be mean all the time. Trying. I am failing, but I am trying.
00:52:55
Speaker
Man, that like suicide scene with George, I just thought was so ridiculous. They walk in, he's like, I've been trying to kill myself all day, man. I was like, oh my god, what the fuck is this?
00:53:06
Speaker
I was like, come on, are you kidding me? This is so stupid. And, oh man, yeah, I just thought that was ridiculous. Another thing I thought that was pretty dumb, because we surprisingly have like not talked about the Hunt character much at all.
00:53:23
Speaker
Oh my god. This guy sucks. This movie seems to know that this guy sucks, and it really likes to stick the audience's nose in the fact that this guy sucks. There's a point where he's like, if we're going to die, I'm going to go do what I do best.
00:53:39
Speaker
Get laid. And I was like... Nobody would ever say that, ever. It's just, that's so ridiculous.
Stereotypes & Narrative Structure
00:53:48
Speaker
That's not what anybody's the best at either, i don't think. That sounds hard to know, but also, oh man, it's just ridiculous.
00:53:58
Speaker
Then there's like a two-second sex scene in this that, like, you use the word tasteless to describe this movie. i mean, that's exactly what this is, the whole movie, but the sex scene in particular is tasteless.
00:54:09
Speaker
And, ugh. Then this guy gets his intestines sucked out through his asshole. So that's the fate of old Hunt.
00:54:20
Speaker
Yeah. Good riddance. I wish I never met you. Yeah. Because at least in other films, when they do it right, you have...
00:54:31
Speaker
a character that you can't stand nine times out of 10, but sometimes, you know, they go through a phase, they up redeeming themselves at the end where you're like, you know what, they're not bad, or they learn from their mistakes and they've grown from it.
00:54:48
Speaker
this guy, okay. Yeah. You can tell right off the bat, he was going to be annoying. and all he cared about was sex. Uh, he was even talking to Janet cause I guess they dated before like, oh yeah, you know,
00:55:03
Speaker
I like head or whatever. Then, like you said, he's about to die. So he's like, yeah, let me go get laid. He gets laid and clearly doesn't satisfy this girl. And then as soon as he walks out of the little tent they're in, by the way, how the fuck are they like doing that? They're right in like a public area. I know they were in a tent, but there were children there, so also very ballsy to do.
00:55:30
Speaker
But then right when he exits the tent, there's another girl that passes him, and then he's just like all eyes on her, and it's like, dude, give it a rest. We all know you're a piece of shit. No way.
00:55:43
Speaker
No one's that horny. No way. I was like, that I don't know. This guy's just built differently, I guess. Yeah, and this is all like cross-cut between the car wash shit we talked about earlier and then the two leads, Nick and Lori.
00:56:00
Speaker
and I gotta say, i got to say this character' is being named nick this character being named Nick just drove me fucking crazy. Oh man, it was ridiculous. It wasn't as bad as when I watched Gone Girl the other day because Ben Affleck's character is named Nick and he also like intentionally sucks, but this character like unintentionally sucked. We're supposed to like him and they just fucked up the assignment on that, I'm pretty sure.
00:56:25
Speaker
And you just hear everybody yell Nick the whole movie and I'm like, what? Stop saying my name. But But um all of that, so this whole pool shit is all cross cut with these two doofuses being like, what? Water?
00:56:40
Speaker
were Water? I see a sign about water. And it's just like, oh my God, like the fucking water. Okay, just get to save somebody, you know? And they pull a real Dark Knight, actually, a year after the Dark Knight comes out.
00:56:54
Speaker
You know, the Joker has like Rachel over here and fucking yeah Harvey Dent over here and one of them is gonna die paul they thought they were clever i but I saw through them they're just ripping off the dark knight That's a clever reference, I like that. but yeah Then it was stupid too because the yeah the Clear Rivers thing, it's like, are you serious?
00:57:18
Speaker
That was such a waste of a nod to a previous character. and It's funny because I know like so many people out there thought at one point too, wait, is her name Claire?
00:57:32
Speaker
but Then once you see it like in writing, it's clear. Why would you name a character Clear Rivers? Come on. I know people got some fucked up names these days, but this was, what, 2009? How you to give a girl a name Clear Rivers? Not even 2009 because this is the fourth film in this movie series. So, yeah, didn't like that at all.
00:57:57
Speaker
It reminded me of River Phoenix and Leaf Phoenix, now known as Joaquin Phoenix. I think Leaf was his original name. But it reminded me of a move like that, some real hippy-dippy type of shit.
00:58:10
Speaker
I didn't even pick up on that reference. That's that's a real good catch. But you had mentioned something earlier, that i and I kind of like shifted the conversation in a different direction, but I want to go back and ah ah answer your question.
00:58:24
Speaker
So, after and George like tries to kill himself, then they have that time jump. I think it's it's like a week. Maybe it's only a couple days. It's a very short amount of time.
00:58:35
Speaker
And I wrote in all caps in my notes. I took the town to write in all caps and by hand. Why are they so sure they made it out with exclamation points all after? Like, why are they so confident that they beat this thing?
00:58:51
Speaker
It's just ridiculous. Because then we have like... All the bathtub shit we got into are kind of yada yada some of this ending stuff. But there's another survivor, the cowboy hat guy from the beginning.
00:59:05
Speaker
He's at a hospital and he gets crushed by bathtub. It felt like they just added it in because they're like, we have to do something different that the other movies didn't do. What if there was a guy we didn't know about?
00:59:17
Speaker
It just didn't add anything to the movie at all. And then, like, the two surviving girls... Oh, no. Then walking out of the hospital after failing to save that guy, George gets nailed by an ambulance.
00:59:34
Speaker
And... Oh, man. I just... was come on. You know, but you had already touched on that. And then... It's basically... They're at the movie theater, and...
00:59:46
Speaker
there's like while they're like the two main girls are watching what i wrote it down love lays dying which i thought was kind of funny there was a movie called love lies bleeding that came out last year and they said it was a rom-com earlier i think this movie didn't look like a rom-com it seemed like full-on action movie that they were watching Yeah, do you remember someone said it sounds like a rom-com earlier?
01:00:11
Speaker
and the yeah and yeah, it was strange. he the What's his name? the The boyfriend in there said that to her because he didn't want to go see it There was no couple in there whatsoever, so it's like, what the fuck are you watching?
01:00:26
Speaker
How is this movie titled that and you know described as a rom-com, but like things are getting blown up in there. It makes no sense. So then basically like somewhere in the mall, there's construction going on. Maybe it's like behind the movie theater screen. It looks like there's like a pair of sunglasses and sun is reflecting through the sunglasses pointing at this pile of sawdust that gets lit on fire.
01:00:51
Speaker
There's like paint thinner, There's like paint thinner going to these barrels of flammable liquids or whatever. Those catch on fire, explode, kill everybody in the movie theater.
01:01:06
Speaker
And then we find out it's just another premonition. And that's when I was like, oh, great. This movie is going to be longer. Like, for fuck's sake. It can't just end here. But...
01:01:17
Speaker
I did find it kind of like a little clever that they come out of the premonition. It's like George dies again. They put the audience through that. It felt tasteless.
01:01:28
Speaker
I'll agree. like But I don't know. I didn't hate that move. I did ah ah just because we already have um a death scene where you know someone's hit by an oncoming vehicle, and that was in the first one with Terry Chaney. We didn't need another one. That was just such a copycat move. and Then, yeah, in that premonition when you're seeing everything that you just described with the 3D glasses and the sunlight, I'm just like, wow,
01:02:00
Speaker
Death has like a very intricate design going on here to you know kill off this entire theater room. That was way too much for this movie, and or in general for that matter.
Closing Thoughts & Outro
01:02:16
Speaker
Yes, it was very odd. You know, i I didn't hate the way that that was all set up, just because it's really the only time we got some kind of real Rube Goldberg set up in this movie. The hair salon kind of has a little bit of that.
01:02:35
Speaker
This movie's so void of anything cool, so I was like, okay, I appreciate that, but it... Yeah, it wasn't like believable. It was all so by chance. And I mean, the fun was kind of sucked out of it because it's usually all of this stuff is happening around a character and you're worried for the character while it's happening.
01:02:59
Speaker
And they somehow have some kind of hand in it, either by dropping a penny or throwing spaghetti out the window. But this scene is like, while it's void of that, it has like half of that. So I have to give it like something, I guess, for that.
01:03:16
Speaker
But I say that half-heartedly. Nah, hated that whole scene. And then I respect it. I respect to you hating it. Yeah, even later when, or not later, earlier than that, I'm sorry, this one, it's not that important, but it just, oh my God, it bothered me so much when Lori and Janet are going up the escalator and Lori's shoelace got stuck in the escalator.
01:03:46
Speaker
It's like, bitch, you're starting to panic. Just fucking take the shoe off and then the thing out. Exactly. was an easy fix. Such an easy fix. Exactly. and Then that whole detail where she was like, oh, Nick likes me in sneaks.
01:04:02
Speaker
okay I know damn well a guy is not going to look forward to their girl in sneakers of all shoes out there.
01:04:13
Speaker
Stupid, stupid detail. Yeah, that is a real ah ah really weird detail. Like, you know, I've heard like, oh, this is going to sound dumb. It's from that 70s show, but like Kelso's like, oh, every girl looks like good in a hat. And I was like, that but would make sense to me because that does like to an extent change your appearance, but a different pair of shoes that's not really altering your appearance. It just seems like you have a foot thing. I mean, maybe he does have a foot thing and mean, if he does, then no shame to the guy. That's not like a weird thing.
01:04:48
Speaker
But if he has a foot fetish, you would think he would want to see her actual foot. So like seeing her in heels or something. don't know. Maybe he's just like, I got to dress that foot up.
01:05:01
Speaker
I want to see that foot with a shoe on it. Yeah. Like I love the foot so much. I don't want to see it. It needs to be covered up. He likes the sense of imagination. like What do her toes look like in those sneaks? Okay, let's not talk about toes. I hate toes. Anyway, anyway.
01:05:19
Speaker
ah So So yeah, he rushes to the theater and tries to stop it and gets his hand nail gun to a wall and ends up getting the sprinkler system to go off, which I thought was a smart idea.
01:05:34
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i do also think the other fire probably would have gone gotten the sprinklers to go off. I don't know. andt really know exactly yeah how long those take to work or exactly how they work completely. I think there's a little piece of metal in there that like melts down from the heat that makes them go off, but I could be wrong.
01:05:56
Speaker
I did think that was a pretty clever fix. They probably just lifted it from a better movie, so I don't want to give them that much credit. But I'm also just making assumptions at this point, so...
01:06:07
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Yeah, then, i mean, i don't even remember. They all make it out alive after that? Is that what happens? Like, the chick doesn't get impaled, right? No, the two girls or what's her name? Lori was telling her friend like, no, i'm I think we are basically about to die, whatever. And then that was when Nick came in, saved his girl. Janet was like, no, I was meant to be here and watching this movie. And then the movie theater blows up with the couple leaving.
01:06:38
Speaker
Her dumb ass like gets killed. Thankfully, and didn't like her. But yeah, those two make it out of alive. Wait. No, no, no, no, no. Because that was the whole premonition, right? That was the premonition. Yeah, so they they make it out alive. because the three do survive.
01:06:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's the three at the end. Yeah, you're right. My bad. I wish she died, though. She annoyed me. like So memorable this ending is. I know, right?
01:07:06
Speaker
I was really going in on that. But yeah, I guess they they make it out alive and they are at some coffee shop called Death by Caffeine, which i fucking love.
01:07:19
Speaker
That's like one thing about this movie that I'll take away from it. Just that name of that coffee shop, pure magic. That name of a coffee shop in a different movie, I think is better, but final destination. It's like, come on guys. Why is so on the nose with everything in this movie?
01:07:38
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but yeah, it's a two week jump to this period. And you see Nick, he's just, you know, conquered death. He's extra confident, but he's also being safe. You know, he's looking both ways when he's crossing the street. He there's,
01:07:53
Speaker
They're shown as character development there, I guess. and yeah They end up, what? You said the coffee kills them in the coffee shop? That's how they go? Or they end up happily ever after?
01:08:05
Speaker
The semi-truck comes in and kills them all?
01:08:09
Speaker
But the coffee death would have been cooler. If they all died drinking coffee. It's called death by coffee. you know It might have been... i wasn't going to say more.
01:08:21
Speaker
I won't say a more respectable decision, actually, because I did but claim this as one of the only good choices they made in the movie. so I guess I'll stick by that one. and The closing credits, we kind of shouted those out a little bit.
01:08:36
Speaker
Those ain't too bad. One thing I did notice at the end, though, and I want to know if you caught it on your first watch. Tony Todd couldn't be paid enough money to be seen in this thing.
01:08:47
Speaker
At least that's what I'm assuming. I don't know if they even asked him or what happened. They probably didn't ask him. They probably thought they were above it for some reason. but Again, making assumptions. I should have looked this up.
01:08:59
Speaker
But Tony Todd didn't grace this thing, and I think he's all the better for it. I'm glad not to see the final destination on his filmography when I pull up IMDb.
01:09:11
Speaker
I agree. That would have trashed this man's career. who would have been a dark smudge on his resume. He did not need that. I love Tony Todd. And when he's in a film, it's just like, damn, this just him alone, like brings it up so much, gives it so much or so many more brownie points.
01:09:33
Speaker
but the fact that he wasn't in here, it's like, okay, good, because one, they wouldn't have had a good spot to fit him into this lack of storyline here, but yeah, it would have just like not done him any justice. so yeah Well, you got any final thoughts on the final destination?
01:09:53
Speaker
The Final Destination deserves to get a swirly. And yeah we are this much closer to Final Destination bloodlines.
01:10:05
Speaker
I don't know. I'm checking in my notes. This one is called The Final Destination. So I think this is the end of our season right here, guys. Stay tuned next week. We're going to be starting, look fucking...
01:10:20
Speaker
Stephen King miniseries i don't know we're gonna be doing all the Cujo movies all I think there's only one of them I was about to say, wait, there's multiple? I only know of Cujo. We're going be doing covering Cujo and all of the fan fiction surrounding Cujo.
01:10:38
Speaker
it's It's going to be 12 episodes, so stay tuned for that. no Next week we got Final Destination 5, guys. Don't worry. Don't worry. We didn't forget about the last two.
01:10:51
Speaker
I know. You're probably disappointing people who are fans of Final Destination 5. That would be something. I mean, like, Bloodlines just came out this year, but people are like, wait, what? This is the last one?
01:11:03
Speaker
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01:11:19
Speaker
Let us know how much you hate this film, or even if you like it, like, It's I mean, it's OK that we hate it if someone out there likes it. it But a if someone does like it let us know why defend it.
01:11:32
Speaker
And like, we'll have a good time talking about that, too. Yeah, no shame to you if you like this one. We went pretty hard on it. I think maybe harder than we've gone on a movie before. I don't remember you going this hard on Sinister 2.
01:11:48
Speaker
In Child's Play 3, we went pretty hard on it, but we were pretty young. We might have been holding back. This one, now that we're old vets to the podcast biz, we were more comfortable to really twist the knife when we stabbed this movie in the back.
01:12:06
Speaker
And real quick before we sign off, I've just got two quick plugs that unfortunately will be buried in the final destination episode. And, you know, are this episode's coming out weeks after this release. so But I have a band, Fear and Grace. We released a song earlier this week called Indigo. You can go check that one out. There's a lyric video on YouTube and you can follow us on Instagram.
01:12:33
Speaker
Facebook, I think. And then I also dropped a movie commentary with my girlfriend. We're doing just like random movie commentaries. We're probably to do Jumanji or something next.
01:12:44
Speaker
Not as like focused or serious as this. I don't think we really start talking about the movie until the back half. But we have an episode on the 2016 Blair Witch. If you want to give that a view. I know we're not typically a plug podcast, so you won't be hearing a plug segment from me too much. But, you know, if you can, go give those a listen and, you know, follow the YouTube pages for those because the commentary we didn't work that hard on, but the Fear and Grace song we did put a good amount of work into. So if you could check that out, that would be appreciated.
01:13:18
Speaker
Yeah, guys, show Nick and his girl and his band some love out there. And stay tuned for the next episode. We've been Morbid Curiosities. Let's go.