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Final Destination 3
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes for another wild ride in the Final Destination series, as they talk about James Wong's Final Destination 3! On top of the movie, they also discuss Six Flags Great America, Nick's Fabulous Batman swag, their experience with rollercoasters, Nick's fandom of Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Texas Battle's awesome name, SpongeBob, Halloween's influence on the children in Mercedes' life, and much more!
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Introduction to Morbid Curiosities podcast
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What's up, everybody? Thanks for tuning in again. we are back here at Morbid Curiosities with a another episode in our new season. My name is Mercedes Martinez. With me is my demon dog slash minor co-host here,
Evie the mascot and Final Destination 3
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Evie.
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Also with me is the awesome nefarious necromancer, Nicholas Ewers, was worried that you forgot about me for a second. I know.
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was like, why is she not expecting me to introduce her? So yeah no, I didn't forget about you. You're right in front of me. It completely caught me off guard. I was just like, I guess i you know I don't host this podcast anymore with you.
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No, she's just been literally running in and out of the room right now. And now she's just laying on the ground. But no, I was saving the best for last. It's always a fun time with Evie.
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yeah I still got to post a picture of her for the people who don't know what this little demon looks like. That way they can see who our mini co-hosts. Wait, didn't we make her our designated mascot too already?
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Yes, she's officially the podcast ma mascot. Got it. Oops, I got to get on that. My bad, people. Yeah, but I mean, she's joining us for a pretty good movie. Did you watch Final Destination 3 with Evie? How did she feel about it? What was she have any hot takes?
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She was not pleased by it. She fell asleep throughout majority of it and then left me by myself. You know, if I'm watching a really creepy movie, I want her next to me just so I can have that added bit of protection there.
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nah she just fucking trails off without me and leads me to my own devices. So if someone does break into our house, she's going to leave me just hanging there. So i see how it is with this little guard dog I have.
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My dog is the opposite. And ah ah listeners, sorry that we're like a dog heavy podcast, especially if you're a cat fan out there. i I don't mind cats too, but we just, we own dogs.
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but We do. Ava, if I have the lights off and I'm watching a movie, she'll sit there and she'll just stare right at the TV. Like she understands what's happening, all the plot developments and all that.
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Man, I I wish she was like that. That is cute. I try to get her to watch cartoons or just anything. She just falls asleep. Damn, maybe this is my dog because I fall asleep with everything I turn on. That is embarrassing.
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I mean, I basically told said on the last episode, I fell asleep to Final Destination 2 like four times. That's like the movie I've dedicated the most time to like this entire month. Whereas the one we're talking about today, i thankfully didn't fall asleep during it. I was able to watch in one clean sitting. I got some like decent notes out of it.
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it It was ah ah pretty smooth. I got in and out. I didn't get trapped in this battle with a this movie like I did the last one.
Nostalgia and embarrassing Six Flags stories
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I dig it. i dig it. This one I was kind of looking forward to just because it obviously takes place in a theme park. so It reminds me of Six Flags. um um and I have not been there in years.
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so Watching this just brought me back to my golden days when I would go and have a good time and you know not die on a roller coaster. I was actually at Six Flags last year. i have a video of it. If I remember, I'll post it on the Instagram when this episode drops, maybe with whatever the Final Destination score is over it. I have a shirt that I don't know if you've seen me wear it when we've recorded, but it's a blue shirt.
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Batman's on it in a pink Batsuit, and it says Fabulous. on it feel like i've seen it that's cute i love it it's one of my favorite shirts i get a lot of compliments on it too i i dig it it's course pretty awesome it's batman and no one knows it's from six flags i wouldn't have even guessed that that's pretty cool yeah but so i mean you got any crazy roller coaster stories before we get get into like full spoilers and opinions on uh final destination So I have two and they both took place on the same day.
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they're just embarrassing in my opinion. So if people can't tell by now all the shit that I give you, I'm short.
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I'm like five foot and that's it. And I stopped growing in the seventh grade, I believe. Everyone else towers me essentially. But yeah,
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I don't know how old I was, maybe like 12 or something. My brother and sister, they were going to Six Flags and my parents made them take me.
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And this was the year that I actually got those Heelys shoes, want the little ah buttons, you press the buttons and wheels come out to make them rollerblades. you remember those? Damn.
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yeah yeah Yeah, I remember those. I never owned a pair, but I remember those. i was envious of them. They looked like they were really fun and convenient. Well, the thing was i had those pairs. They were kind of like a generic pair, but I had them and I felt like a fucking baller.
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And i wore those because they were like, you might be too short to get on the rides. So they gave me like an extra fucking foot on my height.
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So any ride we were going on, the people working it were like, hey, we got to check your height. And I... barely made it on each and every ride. They're like, all right, you can go.
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It just got to the point that I started going up to the thing myself. That way they could measure me. I always made it It was just ridiculous because those shoes fucking hurt. They were not comfortable at all. When you're walking, you could feel the wheels underneath them. So my foot was not level at all. It hurt like a fucking bitch. And you were 30 years old when the story happened?
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Yes, clearly, I was 30 years old. This was just couple years ago. Yeah, this was last year. year. um but you know It was funny because later on, my brother and I were getting annoyed because my sister didn't want to go on any more rides.
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And she went into this one gift shop and he was like, come on Mercedes, let's go. So I'm like, OK, cool. And we just up and dipped off to Cartoon Network land and we got on this tiny rocket ship roller coaster.
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Mind you, we had found one of those big refillable cups in the grass somewhere. So we stole it.
Roller coaster dangers and listener engagement
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We rinsed it out at the water fountain and then that's how we were getting our drinks.
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They didn't have like cubbies to store any of our items on that ride, of course, because it was a little kid ride. But me and him got in there and the ride was like flipping on its side and I thought he was falling out and he even told me like man I almost fell out of the fucking ride because the cup was falling and I didn't want to drop the cup of my oh my god you could have died on there so yeah those are my my two stories ah ah involving roller coasters
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That's wild. I think at that point you let go of the cup. That's actually the closest I've ever heard to someone having a Final Destination-esque situation happen on a roller coaster.
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Yeah, we didn't have a lot of money that day, and we did not want to give up that cup. We were like downing pop all damn day. That is what we lived on growing up. so yeah i I accept the fact that he was willing to give his life for that fucking cup.
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Oh, my God. I don't have any ah stories that ah ah crazy. My first roller coaster was in like 2013, 2014. I rode the Goliath.
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i wrote the goliath I want to say whatever year that like opened up at Six Flags, i that was my first roller coaster I went on. And the only other story I have from Six Flags is I was on a log ride with a bunch of friends.
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I didn't know this was going to happen. I wasn't prepared. Luckily, it was at the end of the day. But... We got splashed with water, and I was the only one in our group. I just took all of the water, and I got soaked from head to toe and was just drenched to the whole rest of the day up until I got home, and it was awful.
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Were your shoes wet too? Yeah, everything was wet. No, that's the worst thing ever. Wet shoes and wet socks. That was pretty close to a Final Destination 3 type situation, I'd say.
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Yeah, you almost drowned. So we got some some stories regarding Six Flags. we Now we just need to go back to Six Flags. like anyone is anyone else like Has anyone else gone to Six Flags recently? Let us know in the comments, on our Instagram page, even on Spotify here.
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with this episode or more importantly have has anyone ever almost died or had a near-death experience on a roller coaster to write in about that that'd be interesting to hear Yeah, definitely. Let us
Initial movie thoughts and mood analysis
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know. But without further ado, spoilers ahead, guys, for Final Destination 3. Yeah, I like how ah climactic that was.
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you want to give your your thoughts first on Final Destination 3? So, initial thoughts with my dog in the background. Again, going into this, I hadn't seen it, and don't even remember the last time I watched it, but I had a feeling i was going to be a little more on board with it compared to the first two, which was funny because, again, back in the day, I liked the second one more, but I think that's just because I like the two main characters.
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But watching this one, i had a good time with it, but it's still... like leaving me feel incomplete on a lot of levels, but it's still a good time. You feel a sense of like dread and moodiness throughout the entire film.
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so i don't know. like They kind of add to that with the vibrant colors that they show in each scene compared to the second one. a lot of the colors, even the first one, like all the picture frames, they looked very like blue and dull, I would say.
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But I don't know. I just like how we're back in like a teenager world in this one. Even though majority of the characters I hate, some of them work for me.
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But what did you think of the film? So yeah, this movie did kind of have some familiarities with the first final destination. It was kind of reminiscent of that. It's the return of James Wong directing it and ah Glenn Morgan producing it.
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So I thought that was pretty cool. Honestly, I thought they did a better job on this one than the first one. You and I are kind of having a bit of the opposite reaction so far with this series, but I'm kind of liking them more as each movie goes on.
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So far, I'd say this might be my favorite. It's really hard to tell. Because there's good things you could pick out of each movie that are strong. And that being said, I would still put number one at the bottom out of the ones we've watched.
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But the first one has some of the funniest moments. It has some great characters. The second one, I mean, I don't know if I said that, but it has some of the funniest moments.
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some great characters. It has the best intro and maybe one of the best sequences in the whole franchise. But this one, you pointed to the moodiness.
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I really enjoyed that about this one. I liked how moody it was. There's a mournfulness to this. It kind of is about survivor's guilt in a way that the others weren't about. And an issue that I pointed out with the other two movies is no one really...
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ever mourns the death of anybody in these things. They just kind of are on to the next adventure, the next person they have to try to save and accidentally kill in some way.
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But this one, the two characters who are left surviving from the initial accident, are grieving and I really did enjoy that about this this movie stars Mary Elizabeth Winstead I'm a big fan of hers I had no idea she was in this ah ah I realized when I put this on I think I had never seen this movie in its entirety But I'm a big fan of hers ever since her days in Sky High.
Plot setup and character introduction
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But more so 10 Cloverfield Lane. That movie's great. That's when i really she really came on my radar. So that was an awesome surprise. And I thought the chemistry between her and Ryan Meerman, I think that's how you pronounce his name, her their characters, Wendy and Kevin, really worked for me. So right now, out of the three we've watched, I'm walking out of this one it being my favorite.
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Yeah, so again, spoilers ahead. So we have um um a senior class on their you know graduating class trip. They're at a theme park.
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All of them are having fun. You have like the four, well, four friends, but two of them are couples. You see the two guys are um friends. So again, you have... Ryan Miraman, who plays Kevin, and then you have Jesse Moss playing Jason.
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He's actually not a dick in this film. He's been a dick in a lot of other films that I've seen and seen with him in it, like Ginger Snaps and i forgot this other one that I had just watched him and into.
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But it's it's cool because he plays... not to sound mean, he kind of plays like a nobody in here. He's just like, you know, her, her nice boyfriend in here, ah Wendy's boyfriend.
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But yeah, so they're, they're all having fun. They're on these rides. Wendy is starting to pick up a little bit of the, you know, the wind blowing, the random little signs she's seeing.
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She sees like on the first ride that the three of them are on while she's taking a picture. i think it was called high dive, but in the camera with her photo, it said high dive. The V was cut off or the light wasn't working.
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So she's getting all these little signs. You meet all the other like side characters in here. They don't seem too great. You don't know too many of them, but you know it does lead you up to the main event in the opening scene. um it was called what, like Devil's Lair or something, Devil's Flight.
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And what a cool looking fucking roller coaster. You got a big ass devil like in the front voiced by Tony Todd. i would have just loved to have taken a picture with that
Tony Todd's cameo and death's design
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thing. That thing was fucking huge.
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I want to point out that the Tony Todd thing. So is this Tony Todd's character from the other movies? Did he pick up a job where he voices carnival rides or is this just unrelated and this is a Tony Todd voiceover cameo because I would like to know and it would have been cool to see Tony Todd in this movie I i actually noticed that I was like by the end I was like oh we didn't get Tony Todd at all Yeah, that bugged me because the first time I watched this, I didn't realize it until the end. Like, oh shit, where the fuck was Tony Todd at And then rewatching it a different time, I learned that was his voice.
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then it also, he also does a voiceover in the end as well. But That was disappointing. However, what a cool way to have him in there still like included in the film to be the fucking devil for that ride.
00:18:00
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Really fucking crazy. Yeah, maybe narratively they couldn't justify having him come in for a third group of people and explain this shit. And this movie also doesn't spend a whole lot of time going on and on and litigating like the death death's design thing that the last two movies were doing.
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So maybe they were like, okay, we don't need to explain. People get it. The only setup we'll really have these characters do is they discover the order thing. that That's something that these movies consistently do is these characters have to rediscover that they're going to be killed in the order they were killed in the premonition.
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And I really appreciate that about this film because it got very tired you know hearing the narrative of death's design.
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and It's like, okay, we get it already. For them to just kind of like like zone in on, all right, we all died in my premonition. like Who's next to die? like That's all we need.
00:19:09
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I just thought it was funny that They have an emo couple in here and I fucking love them. They're just, they're just funny. You see them trying so hard in a way. but I think the funnier thing was, you know, watching reviews on this movie, uh,
00:19:31
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CZ's World Things You Miss he cracked me up because he it's the couple is named Ian and Aaron but he named them NCR and Misery Business and I thought that was so fucking epic I love that name for them That is about the right time period. I guess they would be listening to probably like my chemical romance.
00:19:54
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I am kind of surprised that you liked these characters. I found them to be insufferable and I relished in their deaths. I especially found Aaron's to be little funny.
00:20:07
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Yeah, i they were my two least favorite characters. Well, like, and Aaron had a satisfying death, too, because hers was
Roller coaster accident analysis
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kind of, so she falls onto, like, this nail gun, and it shoots into her head, but then, like, the dead weight of her head keeps, like, depressing the trigger of the nail gun, and it keeps causing it to shoot back until it's unloaded, and I thought that was pretty comical. like, yeah, get these characters out of here. and When Ian was still alive, I was like, I rewound it twice because I was like, wait, did I miss something? They must have killed this character. and I was pretty disappointed to see that he makes it pretty far into the end.
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Even though you you don't see a lot of him after that. I actually like them. like they i won't lie. Again, this is like where it was making me laugh just because of how how hard they were having to try to like be the little moody emo characters. Because even when they were on the roller coaster, everyone's like, oh, yeah, they're really hyped up and everything.
00:21:15
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They're just kind of sitting there looking around. And then even when they make the initial drop, like you see Aaron getting a little like... into it and Ian's still just like you know whatever and then once you know catastrophe starts and everyone's fucking dying all over the place that's when you see some damn emotion come from them so yeah but I didn't want them to die. I actually wanted them to live.
00:21:44
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i like them maybe just because I like their clothes, but I like them a lot. There were some other characters in here that I couldn't fucking stand, but we'll get there. We'll get there.
00:21:55
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But how how did you like the the kill scene of the roller coaster? Like everyone dying in that scene? I enjoyed it. I thought it was better than the plane crash in the first one, but it didn't hold a candle to how good the intro in number two was.
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I still liked it, though. James Wong's directing style doesn't fully work for me, especially at the intro. He really likes the shaky camera, and it made the intro scene kind of hard to figure out what was happening. i have talked about geography in certain movies. That's something that I apparently is like pretty important to me when I'm watching something, but I was like losing track like, wait, who's behind who and who was where in this.
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But that's been the case with most of these movies. I feel like they haven't done a great job conveying The actual order everybody was seated in and the order they died in, especially the first one, because they change it, the dying order halfway through the movie.
00:23:02
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And then the second one, death decides to move backwards. So they just keep fucking with it and making it harder to keep track of. But, the directing style aside and there are some cool tricks that james wong did that i heard about and i'd like to watch behind the scenes to really see how it was implemented but i guess they use shooting into mirrors to get different angles of the roller coaster that they needed and couldn't get because of how it was built but uh they had to like really improvise to get certain shots and i appreciated that but
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Overall, the complaints I had aside, I thought it was a really effective and awesome sequence. and I hadn't really ever thought about Final dust Destination 3 before I got on a roller coaster, but I think maybe next time I'm on I might ah ah start having a slight bit more paranoia.
00:23:53
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But I don't think it'll ruin any roller coaster experience, though. so I love the fact that they brought us to a theme park here because I feel like that would be able scare a lot of people because you know teenagers go to theme parks. Younger kids go because they're anxious to get on rides like short little me did.
00:24:17
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and then is Is this a theme park? or It looked like a county fair with like an insane roller coaster that should not be at a county fair.
00:24:28
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Well, that's why I'm considering it a theme park because ain't no way in hell that they have this big ass roller coaster just at like a tiny fair. Yeah, but teenagers were still manning it. I was just like, oh my God, like I wouldn't.
00:24:42
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Why are there loops on a roller coaster at this fair?
Character interactions and teenage emotions
00:24:45
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That was actually a thought that I had at one point. I was like, this is insane. Mm-hmm. Yes. I'm just calling it a theme park, but yeah, it's like so many of the population go two theme parks and they want to have that fun. You have everyone who is fucking terrified to go on the rides, but they still go, and now we have this fear.
00:25:06
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Yes, nothing holds a candle to part two, but this one is like right behind it. Because, yeah, you have absolutely no control once you are up in the air about to make this however many foot high drop.
00:25:23
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Maybe to your death. Who knows? But I liked it. The thing that I didn't like was how it was prevented. So you have like this jock, Louis Romero.
00:25:39
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He, when Wendy starts freaking out, like, oh, you know, the... the roller coaster is going to fuck up or whatever. He gets off the ride too, and he just starts bitching about her like, oh, you know, shut her up, Kevin. you know He's like really going in on it, and it's like, you were still on the ride though. You were guaranteed to go on the ride if your dumb ass didn't get off. This literally has nothing to do with you.
00:26:05
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So in my opinion, this fucker was on steroids to be that angry about her freaking out when they literally would have probably just had her and Kevin get off the ride and not bothered with anybody else. But no, he had to get involved all stupidly.
00:26:20
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Yeah, you'd think someone having a full-on freakout before roller coaster starting would be a more common thing. i was like, oh, this seems pretty believable. i could see somebody like maybe like once a day at a theme park having a freakout about getting on a roller coaster with how many people they shove on those things and within a day.
00:26:41
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you know it seems like the chances would be pretty high and they i agree with you they definitely overreact to her freak out they're like what's your address we're gonna take you home it's like a guys chill out just escort her off the ride yeah just like let her calm down no one even like gave her that moment they were all just like all right we're gonna have your mom come and get you like What? Just calm her ass down. like You guys are jumping the gun trying to like get rid of her, and then they don't even have any extra time to tend to her because that's when everything starts fucking up on the roller coaster.
00:27:21
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But after that scene, you do feel... the morning that her and Kevin are going through mainly her because you know she's in school it's a rainy day she's just getting her diploma and she sees like the little like kind of altar memorial for the few students that did pass away on the roller coaster and you know one is her best friend and the other one was Jason her boyfriend
00:27:50
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So I like the fact that they brought it back to a teenage setting again because they had them be, they had two couples to focus on in the beginning. So when you're a teenager, your hormones are all over the place.
00:28:07
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Everything is the end of the world. And the person you are with is like your soulmate at the time. so The fact that both of these characters had that one person ripped from them, it kind of made it more depressing to watch.
00:28:24
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And then the rain did not help. So that scene genuinely made me sad. Yeah, I thought it was pretty effective, and that's when I was fully hooked into the movie. There was a sadness to that moment, and the rain, too, just added to it. It felt very TV, kind of like how I was talking about on the first one, just a real...
00:28:48
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Like the colors are very washed out throughout this movie, but it worked more in this one than the first one for me. real Real quick, before we get too far away from the roller coaster, I want to just shout out one more moment from it.
00:29:03
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That dangling, that was super effective and worked on me. I would be terrified. Like that is the fear. The roller coaster stopping when you're upside down and then you end dangling. That's the scariest part about all of this, I think.
00:29:21
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But you were talking about the intro and how they get like right to the moodiness of it all. I do like how what's accomplished in that intro also is it lays out a couple more of the characters like the two girls that introduce themselves to Wendy and are like, hey, I don't know if they invite her to a party or whatever.
00:29:43
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And Wendy's not interested. It does a good job of setting up those characters and making, I guess, making you want to see them die. i felt like they got a little too much more than they deserved.
00:29:57
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But then I also like that they streamlined the whole Flight 180 process. thing too like the character does all of the
Narrative focus beyond main plot
00:30:05
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research off screen and we don't have to go through all of that again we don't have to go through that and then later in the movie they skip the interview with detective stuff that all happens off screen and she's like I told them everything and they thought I was crazy I was like thank god this movie's not doing this for a third time yeah they The two girls, Ashley and Ashlyn,
00:30:30
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were they were feeling bad for Wendy and how to like she was coping with everything. They actually invited her to go to go tanning with them. Guys, don't do tanning.
00:30:43
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There's self-tan out there. Don't go tan out in the sun either. It is not good for your skin. I am a licensed esthetician. Please don't fucking do that to your skin. Anyway, sorry.
00:30:55
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but yeah i they won't use a tanning bed after watching this movie either. i mean I don't think I ever intended to. And this didn't really like scare me in a crazy way where i'm like, oh my God, this will happen to me.
00:31:09
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But just in general, I was like, this just doesn't seem safe to do. No, I've worked in gyms that had tanning beds in them. and They smell fucking disgusting after being used because one, I hate the way suntan lotion smells. and Then with there, it just- the lights in there it just
00:31:35
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It does not smell good. It's not good for you guys. Do not fucking do it. I will come for you if you do it. I swear. Anyway, before I go off on a whole tangent with that again. Yeah, they I was happy that they didn't like focus on like, oh yeah, let's watch everyone do all their research again.
Tanning bed scene critique
00:31:57
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i kind of didn't even like the fact that Kevin brought it up to Wendy, like, oh yeah, I did a little research.
00:32:16
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um,
00:32:17
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I don't know. In this type of world, they would have known about that, but I don't know. I was just happy that, yes, they didn't go through like all the interviews, like any type of police work. You see like the detectives who do question Wendy and Kevin later on. They kind of like eye them suspiciously, but They don't show them like fucking tailing them throughout the film, which I liked because then that would have been like a whole cat and mouse chase that we did not need in here.
00:32:51
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Yeah, you mentioned them not being aware of Flight 180 at all. That is a pretty good point. I mean, the beginning of the last movie, someone was on, assume, national television. It looked like a popular talk show discussing the events of that and Death's design. So it seems like it's widely known information, but these characters act like they dug up something that's been buried by the world.
00:33:17
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Exactly. exactly yeah Going into the two tanning bed deaths, like oh, God. Yes, I had seen this before.
00:33:30
Speaker
Yes. They have those big ass Slurpee cups. I can guarantee two women like that, two teenage girls like that would not be fucking drinking those, especially on their way to go tan.
00:33:46
Speaker
The thing to keep in mind throughout this scene, and you said it, Mercedes, you use the word teenage to describe these two girls. And that's what makes this scene kind of like almost completely unappealing to me. I mean, before I get into it, what were your thoughts on the the tanning bed scene?
00:34:03
Speaker
No, let me hear your thoughts. i need to hear yours now, just how you opened up with that. I just thought like they're doing the nudity thing just because what horror movies like have nudity. It seems like it's such a weird like late 90s, early 2000s type of thing to just have nudity because it's a horror movie. and I know yeah that's how it's been for a while.
00:34:27
Speaker
But it really seemed apparent in this time period where it was just like, oh, horror movies, that's what you do. You just have nudity in it. You see naked women. And it felt really kind of tasteless to me. And the fact that they're, like you said, teenage girls made it really weird.
00:34:48
Speaker
The song they picked, the roller coaster song, It was completely annoying. And ah like my girlfriend pointed that out too.
00:34:57
Speaker
But they only play that song because the beginning there's a roller coaster. I don't know. It's a well done sequence. It's a very famous sequence, but it just felt really gross to me.
00:35:11
Speaker
This scene was ridiculous to me just because, yes, like you said, these girls are teenagers and they're half naked in these tanning beds.
00:35:23
Speaker
Yes, because you know they do typically include nudity in horror films. But it doesn't help that they have these two characters being like the ditzy naked girls.
00:35:36
Speaker
And it's it just makes a scene that much worse. And i don't know, I guess like that's just...
00:35:46
Speaker
kind of adding to the intensity of the scene, like, okay, they're naked and they're on like these hot ass tanning beds and they're burning alive.
00:35:57
Speaker
Okay, well, we could have gotten that with them just being you know in a bikini or whatever. like in that I think the movie I Still Know What You Did Last Summer did it better. you know Jennifer Love Hewitt, she was going in a tanning bed, but she just had on a bikini. and That was their nudity scene, essentially.
00:36:19
Speaker
yeah and The one girl even says like her boyfriend or whatever is into tan lines. so They have a line in there that would justify them wearing bikinis and Exactly, but they just they had to have this scene in here. like It could have been directed in a different way that would have been more tasteful, but i mean we got like the cool scene. I forgot the proper term for it, but you see the two tanning beds like on fire, and then it cuts to their two caskets at their funeral.
Drive-thru scene excitement and humor
00:36:55
Speaker
I forgot what it's called.
00:36:57
Speaker
That's a great shot. though i'll get that's like a shot that you notice and you're like okay that was very thought out and executed well for just how small it is too Side note, I really like their caskets. like They had some designs on them. like One of them looked almost glittery, and the other one, I think, had like a floral print on it or something.
00:37:26
Speaker
but I thought that was cool because it's like, okay, their families, their loved ones, they have got a casket to you know represent their personalities like I don't know like I I wouldn't have that as my casket my casket is going to be full-on black maybe a coffin even but i I don't know I just like that they had that little detail in here But right after that, I think we're right into the drive-thru scene, I want to say, which I think I didn't even, I've never seen that before. And I thought that was actually like pretty pulse pounding. And you can take that and put that on the DVD cover and quote me on that.
00:38:06
Speaker
It was exciting. like You have the setup of the you know shitty people behind them waiting to get food while they're taking too long at the drive-thru.
00:38:18
Speaker
This garbage truck is backing up to their car, which I found pretty believable. I used to do maintenance at McDonald's, and our garage where they took the garbage out was right next to the drive-thru. So I was like, this could have happened at the McDonald's that I worked at, this same scenario and so i thought the setup was great and i was just like oh my god like how like not only was it believable but i was just trying to think how are they going to get out of this and by the end of it some stranger just gets like a motor blade to the back of the head they get their head grinded up and i was like
00:38:55
Speaker
Oh my God, that's a fucking move to do. You kill a stranger in the middle of your final destination movie. How is that going to affect things? But then it turns out it's Frankie.
00:39:07
Speaker
And I thought that was pretty cool that they accidentally get Frankie killed while avoiding their own death. It shows like, you know, death still has a sense of humor throughout all of these movies.
00:39:19
Speaker
and what One of the most fucked up pieces of this scene was they was when Wendy and Kevin were like talking about the photos while they were in the drive-thru.
00:39:33
Speaker
and Kevin mentions, like wait, SpongeBob lives underwater. and Wendy has the fucking nerve to say, it's so sad that you know that.
00:39:44
Speaker
Everyone fucking knows that. Everybody would know that. It's 2006. SpongeBob was maybe at its peak of popularity. Of course, this high schooler would have some frame of reference for SpongeBob. He would know SpongeBob lives underwater, I feel like. That's pretty basic information. like My parents knew that.
00:40:06
Speaker
Exactly. My dad he was in the Air Force and whenever he would go to his base in Wisconsin, he we would go with him. But one day me and him were driving and he was just laughing and telling me like, man, one of the guys that I worked with over here, they were saying like, yeah, I got to get up every morning at this time so I could watch SpongeBob.
00:40:30
Speaker
And my dad was just laughing at him like, are you serious? My nine-year-old watches that. like I was like, well, he has good taste. SpongeBob is funny. Yeah, my dad, he's retired now, but he was a fireman for most of my life. And the firemen, they would watch Spongebob 2 at the firehouse. I don't know why, but someone threw Spongebob.
00:40:52
Speaker
so One of them even had, this might be little too personal, but I'm not dropping names. One of them even had Spongebob sheets on their bed at the firehouse.
00:41:03
Speaker
You're lying. I swear to God. Wow. I was going to say, and you're over here giving me shit for talking about my nephew having SpongeBob pajamas on, but I did point out who he was. You at least didn't drop a name. And he was kid. He was still a baby, so it doesn't matter.
00:41:21
Speaker
That almost matters more, actually. I'd say if someone was dropping baby shit that I did on a podcast, so I would be like, why what are you doing? Why are you talking about this on a podcast?
00:41:36
Speaker
Because he won't listen to it. like I think he started to, but he he's in his own world. but Love him to death, but I had to throw it on here. Love him to death, just not that supportive. I supported him and him loving SpongeBob. I was saying he he's not supporting you if he doesn't listen. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he's never going to hear this, so we could say whatever about him. Drop another baby story about him while you're at it.
00:42:03
Speaker
Oh, I should. I was going to wait for it to be for when we watched or when we covered Halloween, but it did come to my attention. And I feel like I told you this story too.
00:42:14
Speaker
But no, he has an older brother and they were a year apart. But my mom and brother, they would let them watch Halloween when they were toddlers all the time. So, you know, they'd be...
00:42:27
Speaker
playing with their toys, you know, humming the Halloween theme song all the time. They knew Michael Myers front to back and everything. I guess one day my mom was just at home by herself, but she was watching them. And she was on the computer downstairs, but she didn't hear them. She just heard them kind of of runner running around upstairs, but they were quiet. And she's like...
00:42:52
Speaker
That's not good. And then she just hears the youngest one, my nephew, he was telling his brother, ah ah should probably give them fake names. Let's call him Tad and Chad.
00:43:05
Speaker
i don't know why I keep bringing up the AD names. I'm sorry. But the youngest one, Tad, he was saying like, it's okay, Chad. It's okay. And my mom's like,
00:43:17
Speaker
what the hell are you saying? and She kept hearing that and then all of a sudden she heard like a loud bang and then the older one, Chad, ran up to her and he's crying and his head's kind of bleeding.
00:43:31
Speaker
and She's like, what the hell happened? Then she looked over and seen Tad stairs and he had a little butter knife in his hand and he's like slowly putting it down and he's like, it's okay, grandma. It's okay. Yeah.
00:43:44
Speaker
so yeah They were little terrorists. Oh, wow. That's what Scream is about. Yeah, exactly. These little killers, they learned young. Don't watch horror movie, kids.
00:43:56
Speaker
if you can We used to give lessons on this podcast, and if you can take anything away from this episode, it's don't watch horror movies. They're bad influence on you. Watch them with your parents because they'll filter it for you, and then you'll be okay. the Maybe. Maybe.
00:44:15
Speaker
maybe You know, my nephews, they were just little demons and they got away with murder, essentially, literally in this point. And yeah, they could still do no wrong in my eyes. So, yeah. But anyway, that was my little side tangent back to the film here.
00:44:33
Speaker
I forgot which part we were on. Did you have any thoughts on, or final thoughts on that drive-through sequence before we hop on over to Lewis's death? This movie is just this a series of set pieces.
00:44:47
Speaker
So it, yeah it's easy to just hop around.
00:44:53
Speaker
what the hell was that? So, is in the room and she was messing with the lights so she, oh my god, that's scary. You can, part you can turn them off if you want.
00:45:07
Speaker
Oh, if you wanted to, be you can turn them off. I can podcast in the dark.
00:45:13
Speaker
That scared to me. I was like, you're going to think that my power went out. yeah
Drive-thru chaos and personal anecdotes
00:45:18
Speaker
i know. was like, damn, he doesn't seem concerned that his power just went out.
00:45:24
Speaker
Yeah, you're like, it didn't react at all to everything around him going down. I know. If that happened to me, I would have like freaked the fuck out. Like, nope, not dealing with that. was just like, this is what I'm doing now.
00:45:38
Speaker
I'm recording in the dark. That is hilarious. With the drive-thru scene, that was actually...
00:45:51
Speaker
Yeah, a little heart pounding just because, you know, they're just one. They don't know what the fuck they want. They're just like sitting there trying to figure that out. And then they start looking around and then they notice like the truck behind them coming like full. Well, not necessarily full speed, but it's just rolling down uncontrollably on the hill.
00:46:11
Speaker
And the couple behind them isn't paying attention, even though they're being assholes trying to hurry up and get their food. then the person in front of them is being like a dick, like just flicking them off because he thinks they're just rushing him.
00:46:26
Speaker
And then they fucking break the windshield so they can escape. And then, yeah, the semi truck that was backing into them, like fucking slices open this
Gym death scene and gym culture critique
00:46:39
Speaker
guy's head. And you're like, oh shit, you know, ah ah random pedestrian just died. Like what the fuck happened or bystander whatever.
00:46:47
Speaker
And yeah, then you find out it's the guy that was next on death's list. ah The guy, crap frank what's frankie frankie i i kept wanting to say randy probably because his last name is cheeks in here and i'm thinking randy meeks yeah that's that that is very close actually it feels like these movies are kind of lifting from scream even though that's a coincidence i'm gonna just say they were trying to do randy meeks he had a randy meeks
00:47:19
Speaker
kind of vibe to him, except this character sucked, and I'm glad that he really got no real service when he died. Yes, he had a funny death. It was just like, damn, okay.
00:47:34
Speaker
We were getting like kind of like I would say like cheesy deaths in the other films. Some of them were a little crazier than others, but this one really freaked me out. Like, holy shit, like this fucking crazy accident just happened with a semi truck.
00:47:57
Speaker
And the little that this truck did created so much havoc that it crushed Kevin's truck and then also fucking damn near decapitated this guy.
00:48:13
Speaker
Yeah, that was pretty bloody. It was like, damn, all right, this is what we're going for in this movie. Yeah, I think in a world where Saw now exists and is playing on the big screen, you're able to ramp up the intensity and show, like, really really live in gore like that for a little bit.
00:48:30
Speaker
Are you cool with hopping over to Louis's death? Yeah, let's go. lewis played by texas battle i just wanted to shout out that name right because i mean that's a pretty awesome name this even you know yeah shout out to texas battle you know i don't know if i've seen him in too many things but uh you got a good name but on the other hand his character lewis I didn't care for his character at all, and I thought the way he died was kind of annoying. That whole scene was annoying, and you could see his death coming from a mile away.
00:49:10
Speaker
They do have a twist on it at the end. They throw you a curveball where it's like, oh, wait, he didn't die in this moment. How is he going to? Oh, it was the wires being cut, and these two weights come and smash his head.
00:49:22
Speaker
It was okay, I'd say. I didn't really care for his death or that whole sequence at all that much. I found it kind of annoying. I did too. It's like, okay, I don't know what goes on in an athlete's gym. I have gone to gyms. You've gone to gyms, so like you know that you have like the stereotypical like meatheads out there who- fucking do like one set of something and they're like all right good ass pump and they're just like looking at themselves in the mirror very obnoxious that is what's oozing from this fucking gem and he is very arrogant like you know death can't touch me i control my my fate and my destiny whatever
00:50:10
Speaker
And you just like hear everyone else like, you know, grunting, going loud as fuck again. i don't know if that's actually how it is in like a college setting gym.
00:50:24
Speaker
i wouldn't be surprised if it is, but it's also like, yeah, I was getting kind of annoyed in this part. And then his death scene me It was whatever to me. like His head got like crushed by these weights. like That was a little too over the top for my liking.
00:50:42
Speaker
I will say i did athletic conditioning for a little bit in high school and I had to go to like, uh, after school, like the football training workouts was a part of that.
00:50:56
Speaker
And, uh, the gym was about that, this level of douchey. It wasn't quite there. There wasn't a bear. People were punching till they got bloody and yelling like, fuck the Bruins or whatever the hell it was.
00:51:11
Speaker
But yeah, it was like ah ah little, a couple notches below that, but there was still the same vibe of douchery there.
Ian and Aaron's dark humor
00:51:20
Speaker
I'm not surprised that, yeah, I'm not surprised at all. This is why that's one of the few times that I'm happy that I am a female and I don't have to deal with that, like.
00:51:34
Speaker
Ew, that, no. Next scene, i that guy, like I love the guy's actual name. His actual name is great. He does a great job of being a fucking douchebag, but I hated this scene.
00:51:46
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. But yeah, then we're on to the warehouse with your two favorite characters. and Now that we've talked about a couple of the more like less likable characters, I think as we're coming back around to this, I like Ian and Aaron slightly more compared to Lewis and Frankie. But man, we are really kind of pointing out how many dislikable characters are in this movie that I didn't quite realize.
00:52:15
Speaker
Almost everybody besides our two leads sucks.
00:52:21
Speaker
besides our main two leads Yes, because even at first, Wendy and Kevin, it's not like I didn't like their characters. I was just like, I don't think I'm going to have an emotional attachment to either one of them. but you know Just going through all of the other characters in here, it's like, damn, it's hard not to not like these two just because of how shitty everyone else is.
00:52:54
Speaker
and With Ian and Aaron, like yeah you could see either there is they're a bit of an asshole too, like both of them.
00:53:04
Speaker
You have like Ian fucking shooting at these birds with a nail gun because his boss wants him to get rid of that problem.
00:53:14
Speaker
What the fuck are you going to shoot at these birds for? They didn't do shit. Well, technically, they're in the warehouse, but like, come on, there's other ways. Don't shoot the birds. Yeah, I thought that was pretty insane and kind of unnecessary.
00:53:27
Speaker
i know pigeons are annoying, but I don't know if I could. I don't know if I have it in me to start picking them off with a nail gun in that kind of way. I did find it funny that these two did they find love at this night shift warehouse or were they already dating and they found a job they could work at together?
00:53:45
Speaker
That's what I was contemplating too. They had to have been working there and then they met each other. They probably got stuck on this shitty night shift and they were both like you know talking like they're their deep conversations about their hate towards the world and probably their job and everything, their boss. so They probably developed their love from their hate from their job.
00:54:14
Speaker
I feel like I'm starting to realize why you like these characters a bit more now. why Please elaborate. ah ah Just when you were talking about their hate towards the world, I was like, okay, Mercedes could connect with these people in some type of way.
00:54:33
Speaker
i get it now. It's true. Like... Whenever I talk to someone and i don't know how we get about this subject in general, but I'm just like, I fucking hate people.
00:54:49
Speaker
Like I hate majority of people. So if I actually can say that I like you, you better feel damn honored by it because I literally fucking hate everybody like you. i like you.
00:55:00
Speaker
ah ah like a few other people. but everyone else can go fucking suck it. Not our listeners, of course, because you guys are on our same wavelength, but a lot of other people, I feel like our listeners would probably be on the same level as us with like the people we are cool with and maybe not cool with.
00:55:18
Speaker
Did you hear that, listeners? Mercedes told you to go fuck yourselves. I did not, you bastard. Oh, my God. You're a douche.
00:55:28
Speaker
So you think Aaron should have survived and lived a long and prosperous life? That's where how you think? Yeah, her and Ian should have lived because even the dark characters need to find love. And they had love, too. I was so sad when they died. But you know what's funny, too?
00:55:51
Speaker
was i was watching The Kill Count earlier, and they were going over this film, and they were talking about how... Ian, he was being a dick in here, and after listening to Wendy and Kevin talk, he was like, okay, you know what if the last person in line like you know makes the decision to kill themselves? like oh That should save damn near everyone else that was supposed to die, and it would skip all of them. so like
00:56:21
Speaker
you know Any takers? Basically like telling Wendy, like hey, go kill yourself. Fucked up thing to say, but like in the kill count, James
Tricentennial event chaos
00:56:31
Speaker
A. Janice mentioned like, you know, that didn't really work in the second one when Kimberly thought, oh, let me go kill myself and I'll save everyone.
00:56:41
Speaker
That didn't work out. The one random kid at the end and ended up getting sliced open, but or like exploded. Kim survives, though. ki Kim does get away with it, though.
00:56:53
Speaker
but Yeah, she technically dies, but then they had to you know bring her back to life. so They thought, okay, we reset it. so That idea on its own, they're like, it didn't really work. so Why would you try to like bring it up again in this film?
00:57:10
Speaker
Because, well, because even though it didn't save that other kid, Kim goes on to like live, though. She doesn't die like off screen any way. She's, I think, the only survivor in the whole series, as far as I know.
00:57:24
Speaker
People don't count it, but I think there was a bonus feature on the DVD where you can see like different deaths or something. and I guess they had one on there that showed like a news clip of her and the officer getting killed by like a wood chipper or something.
00:57:45
Speaker
so To me, they ended up dying. But, so, okay, so spoilers for Final Destination Bloodlines. They say it in that movie that she survives.
00:57:57
Speaker
Oh, shit, they did? I don't remember. Tony Todd says it. He was like, there's one person who survived this by killing herself, and she made it out of death cycle.
00:58:08
Speaker
But see then he even admitted that she killed herself. But she died and then came back to life. like he was saying that she... Yeah. But she broke through the cycle, though. like She ultimately, like death didn't get her.
00:58:22
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. I completely forgot about that. We got to watch Bloodlines again. we need to hurry up and get to that film. I completely forgot about that. Should just skip the next two and go straight to Bloodlines? Yeah.
00:58:35
Speaker
Yeah, let's do it. Guys, what do you think? I'm kidding. We've got to talk about five at least. No, I'm excited to see which one is the sucky one.
00:58:47
Speaker
But to reel us back in a little bit, the so I did find it kind of surprising that Aaron or Ian became a philosopher all of a sudden, and he's like, wait a minute.
00:58:59
Speaker
If every cause and effect has a cause and effect and this and that, then you should kill yourself. And I was like... This guy seems like he would be like death's friend or something like that, or he would welcome the idea of death or be like, oh, I would love it to be a part of death's design or something.
00:59:18
Speaker
But no, he really went a different route. and that's i That's a big reason why I like them because they were just pretty much dead on with like how fucking emo teenagers would act and how they would talk.
00:59:35
Speaker
Like in the beginning, Aaron said something about explaining what the roller coaster is. i don't fucking remember what it was, but it was just like, OK, you know, relax. You know, a girl's afraid to get on the roller coaster.
00:59:49
Speaker
Whatever the hell you just said is not helping her. And then you have Ian over here being an asshole like. you know breaking down everything that they're saying, killing pigeons, and then telling her, just go kill yourself. like That would make the world a better place here.
01:00:08
Speaker
I just really liked their characters, even though they were ah bit annoying. I don't know. It was refreshing. It was kind of like take like a take back, like a little flashback on how teenagers were in high school, even though they pissed me off too.
01:00:24
Speaker
It was cool to see. What did you think about the revenge mission that Ian goes on after Aaron's death? Oh, yes. that I wish there was more to it. Yes.
01:00:37
Speaker
I before I jump into that, I felt very bad for them because, yeah, you know, they intervene and save Ian from like all these pieces of wood falling on him.
01:00:49
Speaker
But then all this other shit happens and Aaron ends up getting like nail gun to the head. I don't even know how many times, but then there's a point where like Ian looks at her and like looks down because he's just like in shock.
01:01:05
Speaker
But then you hear her like crying a little bit, like her last breath. And then like he just fucking freaks out. That broke my heart because it's like, damn, you just saw like your teenage love get fucking mutilated essentially and then with him kind of like stalking wendy a little bit but you see him in his van and i thought it was gonna be more to it they show one scene where he's watching her and then when they're at their tricentennial event thingy at the end
01:01:39
Speaker
He just like pops up and basically says, like you know you you caused Aaron's death, so yeah let me just start this off and cause yours essentially.
01:01:53
Speaker
But then his death, I wanted more from that. I wish like it showed him like fucking with Wendy more, but we don't even get that. We get a few stalking scenes No, one stalking scene and then the ending.
01:02:08
Speaker
And then he gets crushed by, what was it, a crane or something? Yeah, it was like a crane or a big sign that was near a crane or whatever. But yeah, he ends up getting crushed after...
01:02:21
Speaker
They end up skipping enough people's deaths. Like they find out that Wendy's little sister is a part of all of this, which we haven't mentioned to her. They find out through her bracelet, which when I rewatched like a YouTube recap after watching, I was like, oh, that bracelet is super noticeable. If that's like your dead grandma's bracelet that you've been arguing about.
01:02:43
Speaker
I feel like you would notice that immediately when you looked at that picture. it was It wouldn't require that much investigating to be like, wait, my sister was on this roller coaster.
01:02:54
Speaker
Right. We didn't have like Pandora bracelets out yet. So she really should have recognized that. Yeah, it was stood out in that photo pretty noticeably.
01:03:07
Speaker
And side note about the sister, I found her kind of annoying. Like, there's a point, like, right after Wendy's boyfriend had died and she's in her room sad, she walks in and it's like, yeah yeah ma my man the bracelet, and it's just like, oh, my God, you're so unpleasant.
01:03:23
Speaker
This girl's boyfriend just died. Like, chill out but yeah she's in the loop they discover way too late that she's in the loop and that's how they end up at wherever you said they were I had no idea where they were actually they have some tri that tricentennial event for their town i guess where they were gonna have fireworks and cosplay and whatever I hated her little sister she was such a fucking brat
01:03:54
Speaker
And also a nobody in here. um in here. um And even her friend fucking died randomly. they They just kept saying like, who was next to you on the roller coaster? Yeah. Next.
01:04:07
Speaker
I don't even remember how she died. Like. A flag comes and just impales her and sticks right into the ground. Her or him, i thought I thought it was a girl, but a YouTube video, somebody said it was a him. was like, I must not have paid close enough attention to this character. thought it was a girl too.
01:04:25
Speaker
I thought it was, yeah. But yeah, they just get a flag right through them straight to the ground. It was a pretty upsetting death, for especially for a character that seemed mostly innocent. I don't even know if they said a word the whole movie.
01:04:40
Speaker
They didn't, and that's why it's like, okay, why would they make her sister one of the victims in here? Because she's just like a background character, and then her friend, we don't even fucking know about her until the second she's about to die.
01:04:56
Speaker
so it's like that was not a vital person in here. That was just an extra body to add to this kill count. It felt like it was there specifically for comic relief, but- Yeah, they're dodging all of this like crazy shit, avoiding death.
01:05:13
Speaker
At one point, Kevin gets kicked by a fucking horse when it's his turn to die, and I was like, that would kill somebody. They shouldn't have had that in there if they wanted to make it believable. like That horse fucking bucks him, but he falls down like a person shoved him or something.
01:05:30
Speaker
Have you ever ridden before? Yeah, not like full on ridden, but I've been horseback riding before. It's terrifying.
01:05:40
Speaker
Well, it's terrifying for me because of how tiny I am Being around horses in general is pretty scary to me. Those are big fucking animals. And just the fact that, yeah, they can randomly kick. And if you're just in the wrong place, i mean, that's your life or you're just a vegetable for the rest of your life. It's...
01:06:01
Speaker
They're scary animals, and I you know don't really seek them out too much, even though I do have like ah an appreciation for them. They're beautiful, and I'm sure it would be incredible actually getting to ride them.
01:06:15
Speaker
also do feel really bad because they've had to endure a lot of shit because of humans. like They've died in wars and probably pretty awful ways. They've had to go up terrible terrain. Yeah, so Horses are probably better off with one less person fucking with them.
01:06:33
Speaker
So i know a girl who goes horseback riding with her family and she was next to their horse in their barn.
01:06:45
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and I guess she was trying to take a like a selfie with it. And she said that the horse fucking bit her shoulder. And i was like, wait, what?
01:06:56
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That's a hard bite. Have you fed a horse before? No, because i do not want to get my fucking hand chomped off by them. have some big ass teeth.
01:07:08
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Yeah, that would be terrifying. There's this movie that came on 2017 called The Rider, directed by Chloe Zhao. She also directed Nomadland, I think. The movie it won Best Picture a couple years ago.
01:07:24
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But The Rider, it's based on a true story. I like haven't seen it. I own it, so I might have a little details wrong. i apologize. But I want to say it's based on a true story about...
01:07:36
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a guy who actually got kicked by his horse that he had a really like close bond with and he had severe brain damage but was still able to function just not how high he was functioning before and they got the real guy to play himself i want to say again i apologize if i have any details wrong this movie came out a while ago I bought it, but didn't get to watch it.
01:07:59
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But it seems like a powerful movie. And that alone, hearing the details behind that, I was like, that's when I was like, oh, I just don't, I think I'm going to just avoid horses as much as I can.
01:08:10
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i I enjoy horseback riding, but yeah, I'm a little scared of that. Random side note, sorry. but Yeah, no, it was cool. But yeah, they're just dodging a bunch of crazy shit, and all of them avoid end up dying, all leading up to things coming back around and that sign falling on good old Ian, everybody's favorite Ian. Yeah.
01:08:34
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Even his kill scene, once he's like dead, his body is still twitching and he's like flicking off the camera essentially. and It's like, okay, come on, we get it.
01:08:47
Speaker
We get the type of character he is. Didn't need to show that. He's dead, whatever. but yeah After his death, then it cuts to you know sometime later, what's her name? Wendy was is on the train with her friends and i don't know where she's going. Is she going home? Is she going to an event?
01:09:14
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like i don't I don't remember where she was going. That's bad. I don't remember lot details. think she's going anywhere. Sure, let's go with that. She took a midnight train going anywhere.
01:09:30
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Get it. She's starting to pick up a few little signs. There's a guy on the train singing that the song from the first one. you know There's someone like what is it watching behind you or walking behind you. Yeah, what the fuck is that song? And man, death?
01:09:52
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Come on, death. Like, seriously, you're changing the radio? You're communicating like Bumblebee now? Or is that God that's doing that? Who knows?
01:10:04
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Was that guy on the train God or the devil? Is that God warning her the devil telling her he's after her?
Subway premonition and movie's conclusion
01:10:11
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Let's call him a little demon because he's even like getting off the train and he looks at Wendy. He gives her like a weird little look like, okay, was that supposed to be flirtatious look or a look like, oh, you're going to die. This is why I'm singing that song. like Death, you can pick a different theme song. does not have to be this one.
01:10:32
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but yeah She wants to get off the train at that point and then her sister pops up getting on the train so it kind of just distracts her. and you know She's telling her sister- and Where was she going, Mercedes?
01:10:46
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the I literally just watched the ending because I wanted to see it what happened again. It sounded like she- think was going anywhere.
01:10:57
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She took the midnight train going anyway. Yeah, so her and Julie are talking and Wendy's telling her, like, you know, I just had a feeling again, like that night. And she's like, no, you know, me, you and Kevin, we we got around it. We escaped. We made it.
01:11:17
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So until something happens to me and then Kevin, you're basically good. but then she sees Kevin and she's like- Where was Kevin going?
01:11:29
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i don't know, Nick. Where was he going? I think he said he was going back home, right? I want to say- I knew you were going pull some shit. yeah yeah i think that's correct.
01:11:42
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He had a destination. ah ah final destination. Oh, end the episode here. cut Just leave it here. We've been morbid curiosities. I know, right? ready yeah all right go on Yeah.
01:11:59
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All right, You hear Tony Todd's voice on the intercom. He's saying you know the whatever stop, the last stop is the end of the line.
01:12:09
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fucking love Tony Todd's voice. But yeah, they start to pick up like, oh shit, you know stuff's happening. The the train starts like fucking ricocheting or whatever off the tracks. And then don't know like how this ended up, but I think like a piece of the train like tore off or something and like Julie was sucked out.
01:12:35
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I just remember her body was like bloody and and Then Kevin, he like falls on a broken window and then he flies out. so Both of them are dead, so you're like, fuck, well, Wendy's going to be next. like Train crashes, everyone's dead. She's like on the tracks with a fucking broken leg and then is looking at everyone dead on the ground.
01:13:02
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Just imagine what you would be going through. You're like the last one alive and you know you're about to die and you are just there looking at all these dead bodies.
01:13:12
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And then a train comes and then you're dead. But you're not dead because it was a premonition. I would feel kind of okay until the train, until I saw the train coming. be like, fuck, this sucks so much more. Yeah, what a way to go.
01:13:27
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But yeah, at that point, they're just like, oh shit, you know it's happening again. They're all trying to get out, but- you know you see the lights flickering they just kind of focus in on wendy's face and then the scene cuts to black and that was the end so i guess all three of them died well everyone on there died but what did you think of the ending scene because i wasn't satisfied Oh, really? Damn.
01:13:55
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I thought i the ending was pretty great. I liked the subway derailing a lot. I thought it was pretty well done. But mostly, i like the comedy of them all just ending up on the subway together. It's like, okay, she made it home.
01:14:12
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she She got it. She beat death. And then just one by one, each character showing up, I thought was pretty great. i'm like, OK, now Kevin ah has to show up and he's just there.
01:14:24
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But what really did it for me is that cut to black. Mary Elizabeth Winstead looking at the subway window, it's got like a blue tint cut to black. And then you hear the crash sounds. I thought that was pretty effective. And I mean, if you're going to end on a final shot, let it be Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
Final thoughts and podcast outro
01:14:42
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She's, i mean, an incredible actress and give her that attention, spotlight her because she elevated this movie more than I think any of the other actors have really ah elevated the previous movies.
01:14:54
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yeah Maybe that's another reason why i like this film too because I i like her in here. Her character isn't like, wow, the greatest character like in the whole series, but so far she kind of is and yeah She does like exceed like the job everyone else did in here.
01:15:17
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i don't know. I kind of wish the the ending scene lasted a little longer or gave us a little bit more, but yeah On to the next one. And it's that kind of enthusiasm that we're going to end on. to the next one, I guess. Why are ripping on me on this episode? Like, what the fuck?
01:15:39
Speaker
I know how the tables have turned. and I really got a good one. The listener, we weren't even recording. It wasn't even a dig at you, but we had a little bit of a technical error. Fran I got a little bit of a joke in up top.
01:15:55
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Why do you got to live in the past, Nick? like Why do you have to point out all my flaws, all my insecurities? Why are you being such a guy? Oh, man.
01:16:06
Speaker
It wasn't planned, but, you know, I think i think it worked out well. I'll get my revenge on you. I will. Just like death coming for these teenagers, because we all know death just fucking hates teenagers and their reckless abandon and their youth.
01:16:24
Speaker
But just like death and those teenagers, you're going to come for me. Yeah, you won't even see me coming, but it it'll happen. And then you'll regret this. Hopefully.
01:16:35
Speaker
well Shut up. Well, guys, that's it. That's Final Destination 3. The beloved Final Destination 3. The last one they ever made, I think. The end of the trilogy.
01:16:49
Speaker
It's been a fun run. Our next season is, I think, Boo-A-Media Halloween. I think that's our next season. If we were on the phone, I would have hung up on you.
01:17:01
Speaker
i really would. We'll get it in there. I mean, hell, we got scary movies on the list. We could cover the Boo Medea movies. Medea Boo a Halloween 2. I don't know the order of those words, but I think those are all the words in the name of the movie.
01:17:17
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Any final thoughts on Final Destination 3 before we wrap up, Nicholas? i thought it was a good one. I had fun with this. I didn't know how I would feel. I thought most of the season I would be pretty critical of these movies. I thought I might be kind of a drag, but I've been having fun. These are easy watches. They're pretty nice.
01:17:37
Speaker
And, uh, I had a good time with this one. They've been getting better as they go. and I'm really excited to hear what you have to say about The Final Destination.
01:17:49
Speaker
oh Is that the next one? What it's called? The Final Destination? the Final Destination. It's The Final One. Oh, fuck. Okay, I'm excited. I'm excited to see if this is the sucky one or not. So we'll see.
01:18:04
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01:18:54
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