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EP159: Paul Bauer - The Principles Of Positive Dominant Masculinity
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What is the one piece of advice you wish you had known when you were 18? How could that knowledge have changed the course of your life? Navigating adulthood often feels like venturing into uncharted waters.
Many young men grow up without learning essential life lessons that are crucial for success. For instance, financial literacy often isn't prioritized, leaving young men unprepared to manage money effectively, build wealth, or avoid debt traps. Similarly, relationship management—whether personal or professional—tends to be overlooked, yet it is vital for fostering healthy connections and avoiding emotional burnout.
A good mentor can share life lessons, guide personal development, and provide insights that may take years to learn on one’s own. These mentors help young men take control of their narratives by offering the wisdom and tools needed to forge their paths, make informed decisions, and ultimately shape a life aligned with their values and ambitions.
If you’re ready to take control of your future and live life on your own terms, grab a copy of Paul Bower’s book, "Everything I Wish I Knew When I Was 18," and start building a life you’re proud of.
Learn more about Paul Bauer, visit his website: https://comeonmanpod.gumroad.com/.
You’re invited to come to a Sovereign Circle meeting to experience it for yourself. To learn more, go to https://www.sovereignman.ca/. While you’re there, check out the Battle Ready program and check out the store for Sovereign Man t-shirts, hats, and books.
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Society's Shortcomings in Education
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ah comments was, man, I wish I knew this when I was 18. We're not taught about finances. We're not taught about how to invest in the future. We're not taught love and relationships, how to maintain attraction in the long term. A lot of people just sort of try their best. They watch what mom and dad did and do that. And and a lot for a lot of us, I mean, if you look at the divorce rate, it's just not working out. So it starts with,
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you know, faith and believing. And once you get that worked out, you'll realize that you can have anything you want in this world.
Making Men Masculine Again with Nicky Belew
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You're a man living in the modern world in a time when men and manhood are not what they once were. You live life on your own terms. You're self-sufficient. You think for yourself and you march to the beat of your own drum. When life knocks you down, you get back up because in your gut, you know that's what men do. You're a badass and a warrior. And on the days when you forget, we are here to remind you who you really are.
Paul Bauer Joins the Conversation
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Welcome to the Sovereign Man Podcast, where we aim to make men masculine again. I'm your host, Nicky Belew. We have a very special guest here for you today. He is the host of the iconic and legendary Men's Podcast, The Common Man Podcast. Paul Bauer, welcome to the show, Paul.
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Hey, Nikki, thanks for having me, man. It's come on, man. Like, you know, come on, man. Like that. Come on, man. Like our and like our good friend Joe Biden says, right? Come on, man. That's awesome. So, brother, it's been a while since we've had you on. And the world is world has been a little nuts since we last came on.
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um Why don't you just kind of update me? What's been going on for you personally? What's been going on for the podcast?
Insights from 'Everything I Wish I Knew When I Was 18'
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Let's start there. Yeah, a lot's happened since I had you on. um i so I sort of switched to away from the interview format so much, and I started doing solo podcasts. I had i have a lot of mentors in the space, you know which I think is important for men to have mentors. Agreed.
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and um ah Luckily, you know I ah got invited a couple of years ago to be on a ah group panel show called Rule Zero on Saturdays. and A lot of very well-known the space were on that show. you know Rich Cooper used to be on that show years ago. ah John MLD from Modern Life Dating, Rolo Tomasi. Rolo was the one who invited me on there.
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and um just learning about things in the space. And one of the guys on the show is just, I got to learn so much from this guy. His name is Paul Benjamin. ah His show is called Apex Mindset. And he and I were talking after an interview one our interview one time. And he goes, you know, Paul, he goes, you don't need anybody. You don't need anybody in the space. He's like, you got it, man. You could just, you don't have to do the interviews anymore. You could just do your own thing. And I was like, all right, I think I'm just gonna go do more of those. So I started doing a lot of that.
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I wrote a book since the last time I was on
Is College Still Worth It?
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your show. It's called let me but everything I wish I knew when I was 18. So that came out in December. So it's not an an easy task. So i yeah that was something I was i'm pretty proud of. But yeah, that's what's been going on with me, man. Okay. So tell me a bit about the book. let let's Let's dive into the book.
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Yeah, well, I had been wanting to write a book for a long time, because I'm an avid reader, and I wanted to be able to tell my story and sort of tell people some of the things that I've learned. And one of the common themes I kept hearing from people in the comments was, man, I wish I knew this when I was 18. Man, I knew that wish I knew this when I was 20. And I really felt the same way. I was like, man, there a lot of this stuff, we're just not taught. We're not taught about finances. We're not taught about how to invest in the future. We're not taught ah all sorts of things. We're not taught about love and relationships, how to maintain attraction in the long term. A lot of people just sort of
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you know, try their best. They watch what mom and dad didn't do that. And a lot for a lot of us, I mean, if you look at the divorce rate, it's just not working out. So a lot of us didn't never got taught how to have loving relationships and how to maintain attraction and stuff in the long term. And so I decided, you know what, over the last several years I've been on this journey, I've decided that it's I needed to sort of lay out everything that I've been learning over the last several years, and I laid it out in a sort of a chronological order of importance, what I think is important. right and so It starts with you know faith and believing, and and once once you get that ah
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worked out, you'll realize that you can have anything you want in this world. And then it goes into education and, and how, you know, a lot of us have been, it's been beaten into our head that you have to have college, you're not going to be anything. But a lot of times, a lot of times you go to school now, it's a, it's a huge waste of of money and time. And, you know, your, your, your take on all the student loan debt and for what, you know, when you don't even really need a college degree to be successful in this world. So I talk about all that kind of stuff in my book.
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You know, um it's funny you talk about college degree, right? My um my son is 18 and he was accepted into universities here in Canada. And he was all set to go to school ah next year. a University of Western Ontario, two hours away from Toronto, where I live. And well, he got himself a job with um Amr camera at Hammer Fitness. And Amr has been my health and fitness coach. So since the last time we saw each other, I dropped quite a bit of weight. I don't know if you saw that, but I yeah i dropped 60 pounds and I did a bodybuilding competition, came in third place and not bad for a 57 year old. And so my son, his interest is kinesiology and so forth. and
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Anyways, he came to me and he said, dad, um I don't want to go to school next year. I want to stay here with Amr and work full time. If I go to school, I'm just going to party. I'm not going to study as hard. And I'm not going to learn as much. I can stay here, work with the sky. I'll learn more. I've talked to all the people that work there that have degrees. um They all told me they learn more from working than they did from school. And so I want to ah want to push off going to school for a year, and you know we can revisit it next year. A lot of people go travel and backpack in Europe. This kid wants to work.
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and I gotta tell you, I'm proud of him. As a man who has a master's degree from an Ivy League school, and I'm very proud of the fact that I did that. These days, schools are not necessarily giving kids what they need. They become these woke factories that are turning and churning out these communist idiots out there. My son doesn't wanna be a part of that. He wants to work, he wants to make money, and he wants to learn.
Alternatives to Traditional Education
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And I got to tell you, I think that's really good. And I just want to know what your thoughts are on that. No, I agree. And and and that's one of the things that I talked about the in the book, because I went to college myself. I have two bachelor's degrees and associate's degree. And the thing is, is I got into a profession. um I work in information technology you know for my day job. And I know guys that never went to college.
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making just as much if not more than me, and all they ever did was on the job training and certifications. You can go get IT certifications for a couple hundred bucks a pop, whereas you go to college, you're spending tens of thousands of dollars, and it's like you don't you don't necessarily need that to get educated, you know? And so one of the things that I really learned over the last, I would say, five or six years is If you're going to college, ah do it because the profession you want to go into requires it, right? If you're going to be a doctor, you sort of have to do that. If you're going to be an attorney in most places, you still have to go to college for that. But
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If you're going to get into something like IT or you know some kind of ah physical training or whatever, a lot of times there's like you could go and get a certification. And then if you want to learn about philosophy or whatever, I mean, go get an Audible subscription. you know Yeah. Well, Jordan Peterson has come out with um Peterson Academy.
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which is the way that he's taking aim at the entire educational institution. He's got some of the world's greatest um minds coming forward and teaching courses like in an online university format. The cost is $449 a year, which is 100th the cost of university education right now.
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and Basically, there's no woke indoctrination and he's working hard with companies to have them recognize this instead of a an actual college degree.
Financial Independence and Planning
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I decided to sign up for it. It's I'm one of the pre enrollers and I'm supposed to be getting my access today. Don't yet have it, but I'm hoping I'm going to get it real soon. um And I got to tell you, I think I think this makes more sense. I can go and learn about how to
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um
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get better at any subject through really brilliant people like Jordan Peterson, as well as through a self-education curriculum rather than going to a goddamn university. What the hell for? i Yeah, actually, that's ah that's a pretty smart move. have you ever read Have you ever read the four-hour work week? Yeah, years ago, years and years. Yeah. One of the things that I found fascinating about that book was a lot of a lot of the whole first part of the book is trying to, you know,
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finagle your current job into ah let letting you work from home so that you have more freedom to do what you want to do, right? But one of the things that he talks about in that book is building up credibility overnight. And he says, one of the ways you do that is through various certifications. Man, if you pay you pay a 400 bucks a year, that's nothing. that's That's like the price of a certification and you go and get some kind of certificate from Jordan Peterson, you know what's it what's the name of the school? Peterson Academy. you go to You get a certificate for Peterson Academy, I bet you 99% of employers wouldn't even bat an eye at that. They'd go, oh oh, Peterson Academy, okay, sounds good. And they weren't even you wouldn't even look into it. they would though That is funny. I bet you that would work out great, for especially for young kids out there and that don't want to go and get indoctrinated at some of these liberal factories.
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I really think it's a fantastic idea. Patrick Bette David, ah the host of the PBD podcast and Valuetainment, he um wrote a book a few years ago laying out a case against the university education. And he said that it may have made sense 20, 30, 40 years ago, but today the cost is ridiculously high.
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um the value that it gives to kids is almost non-existent unless you're wanting to be an engineer or a doctor or a lawyer or something like that. And that young men and women are way better off going and getting the education they need elsewhere. And the fact that they become woke indoctrination factories ah just was the final nail in the coffin as far as he was concerned. So I was glad to hear you say that in your book you talk a bit about that and and why it doesn't make sense for young men to go down that road. So what are your
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ah thoughts as you explain the book for a young man who is starting out in the work world. What does he need to be focused on and why? Let's let's let's have you delve into that for us a little bit, Paul. Well, I have a chapter i have a chapter in my book.
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that talks about how anybody can be rich. And this is something I really wish I knew when I was 18. And I mean, this really has been a really old principle, you know, it sort of goes back to the allegedly to the, you know, the ancient city of Babylon, you know, you got to pay yourself first. And so if I, if I would have known that as a kid, my first job, I got my first job at 15 years old, if I would have put away 10 to 15% of that, you know, for myself and some kind of, you know, IRA or some kind of index fund or something, if I would have done that for every single job I had,
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I could have probably retired by now. you know So I think no matter what you're gonna go do, if you're just yeah if you're in high school, you got your first job, you're working at McDonald's, you're working at you know Safeway, the local supermarket, whatever, you need to be setting that kind of money aside and try to stay out of debt as much as possible. That's what I would recommend for a kid just coming out of high school. And as far as career goes,
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What I talk about in the book is you got to figure out what what you would love to do. And a lot of people have this concept of you know follow your dreams and do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life. and And to an extent that might be true, but a lot of times what you love to do won't make you any money. you know So if you if you love building Legos, you know maybe you could go work for Legoland and build Legos for for them at the amusement of a park or something for a living. But for most people, that's not a reality.
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So what I, what I prefer is what could you enjoy doing, you know, and you wanted to imagine yourself in the future 30 years from now, what's your life look like? You know, what what, what kind of house do you live in? What state do you live in? What do you want to do in your leisure time? What do you want to, how do you want the rest of your life outside of work to look like? Okay, now picture that and and then work backwards from there because you need to figure out what you can do that you would enjoy doing that could get you to that reality. A lot of people don't think about that. They just sort of, their parents tell them, hey, you know, you're pretty good with numbers. You'd probably be a good an accountant. And they they hate it. They hate their job. They hate their life. They work, you know, 70 hour work weeks that they can't stand. They have no time for family and they could have done something that they actually enjoy doing. And, you know, and also if, if you, what you love to do is something that maybe isn't,
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going to make you millions of dollars, that's okay too. You also have to learn how to live within your means though, so that you can still enjoy life and, ah you know, and also have sort of a work life balance if you want to have that. But that's that's sort of the kind of idea that I come up with in my book, I don't tell people, you know, oh, this is what you need to do, you know, this is like something for them to think through, so that they can come up with what they would want to do that they could be happy with and be proud of.
The Importance of Early Investing
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The thing that you just said that struck me as being most pertinent and valuable for a young man is pay yourself first. Don't waste money on stupid shit. you know If you're making $200 a week, you're a young man, you're still living at home, don't go blowing that 200 bucks. take $30 of that $200 or $40 and put it in a, as you said, an IRA in the US or RRSP in Canada or tax-free savings account and start investing in stocks. like I want my son to start doing that. like He's going to be getting paid at the end of the month and I want to say to him, hey,
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We're gonna sit down, you and I, ah and we're gonna go to the bank. We're gonna open up an account for you. So you you need to ah have a conversation with Hammer, with your boss, and say we're doing this. I'm setting this up for you. We're gonna go, we're gonna set this up. i want you to I want you to start investing in this. I want you to have your online portfolio, put some money in this, and let's think of which companies you wanna be investing in over the the next little while. so You know, in the last 10, 12, 13 years, I put some money into Apple, put some money into Amazon. I put some money into Tesla. I put some money into some dud companies too. But Amex, those kinds of companies, companies with like a bit of a long haul future. And man, they've done well. They've done really well. They've doubled, tripled, quadrupled, five folded, 10 folded in in ah Tesla's case in value.
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This kid keeps putting in $200 a week. I mean, $40 a week for now, $50 a week. If he does that for 50 weeks, that's 2,500 bucks. you know ah Next year, he'll make more money than that figure doubles, quadruples. If he can put $10,000 a year for 15 years into stocks and bonds, I'm thinking this kid's gonna be rich.
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um Yeah, yeah and and then I talk about in my book, too, the the power of compound interest, because a lot of people were are like, you know, um I'm just putting that money away. Well, you're putting that money away, but it's also working for you. Yeah. That's super califragilistic important. Power of compound interest is is very, very important. And you spoke of I don't tell people what to do. I tell them to think. You got to show people how to think. Young people, period, aren't being taught how to think. They're being indoctrinated. So how does a young man learn how to think? That's a that's a good question because what you'll find is a lot of people, when they're consuming content, even content like this,
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they're not They're not thinking. They want to be told how to feel. you know How to ah should I feel about this thing that you're reporting on? So a lot of people aren't taught about ah critical thinking skills. And that's just that's one of those things that you've got to develop. You've got to develop the concept of just asking questions you know about this. somebody Somebody's telling you something. that It may be true. It might not be true. You got to ask them.
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You got to say some of this stuff out loud. you know If you say some things out loud that people are telling you, sometimes if you listen to yourself say it, it doesn't make any sense. So then you got to ask questions. Why why is this true? And then you got to do your own research. But most people won't do that. most We live in a too long, didn't read generation, and they want to be told what to think and how to feel about it.
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but so it so And that's that's like 97% of people, you know, 97% of people go through life and they have life dictated to them. And they just, they don't take control of their own life and have any kind of
Developing Critical Thinking Skills
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critical thought. They don't pay attention to to what what they want to do. And they just sort of exist. They, as Bob Proctor says, they tiptoe through life, hoping they make it safely to death. And that's just no way to live. No, it is no way to live. so What's your advice to a young men? How do you learn how to think?
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Oh, that's ah I'm trying to think of when I learned how to think. It took me took me a long time. I think I didn't I didn't really start going on this journey of self discovery and learning all this stuff until after a really bad breakup. And and I started reading books.
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And it was after I started reading books and that I i really started ah understanding what it meant to think critically about certain things. Also getting into the red pill space, ah learning from guys like Ryan Stone. There's this guy named Ryan Stone in the space. he's He's really big on just teaching people not ah not to just, you know, do what he says, do your own research, think for yourself and that kind of thing. And and so that just sort of started resonating with me. So I would imagine it would be a good idea if you want to learn how to do that for yourself is,
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find a find it you know a good mentor and in some fashion. ah You can even find a mentor in just reading certain books. you know A really good book, I think, that helps you sort of figure out what you want in this world and think for yourself as thinking grow rich. you know That's a really good one by Napoleon Hill. It's a classic. It came out in the 30s.
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um So I think that's just one way, but really, ah man, um that's a good question. I think a lot of times people don't do these types of things, these sort of looking for answer type journeys until something really bad happens to them in life.
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You know, so if it would be good if you could teach your kids this when they're young. So that way, because when kids are young, they sort of are easily impressionable. they They're just walking subconscious minds. Everything you say goes into their subconscious. So it's good if you have a good influence on you when you're young, but most of us didn't have that.
The Impact of Mentorship on Personal Growth
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um luck I was fortunate, I will say this, I was fortunate when I was ah in elementary school going into junior high, I did have a good mentor in my karate sensei, his name's Fred Bodhi. I have a new book coming out and I talk about him throughout that book and it's all about paradigms. And his he was really big on teaching us um to always believe in ourselves, to never quit, always keep trying.
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um to always develop develop ourselves mentally, physically, and spiritually, and to always be leaders. And I didn't realize how influential that was until later on in life. I was like, man, what that guy was teaching was huge and most guys don't have that. And so I was really fortunate. um So yeah, I would say you need to get a good mentor.
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Mentors are super, super important, but I think you need more than one mentor and in in life. like I have a mentor right now that's helped me with my health and fitness. right That's how I lost 60 pounds and did a bodybuilding competition. so Without him, it wouldn't have happened. I've got a fellow who mentors me in sales. Spectacular has helped me become a ah rockstar salesman.
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um So how do you figure out what you need mentorship in? And what's the best way to to find and select your own mentors? That's another good question. Because I think a lot of that just comes down to figuring out what you want.
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um What do you want to do? and You have to really sit there and think it think it through. like What are your goals? um and A lot of people don't think about their own goals. They're thinking about other people. They're thinking about putting their family first. They're thinking about, oh what you know what what are my wife's goals? What are my kids' goals? and They never think about what the what they need to do.
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and That's one of the things that we teach in the the the red pill space is this concept of mental point of origin, being your own mental point of origin. Some people look at that and they go, well, that's selfish. and It's not about being selfish. It's kind of like when you're on an airplane.
00:24:40
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and they the the you know the The flight attendant says in the event of an emergency, put your oxygen mask on first before you help other people. And the reason why is because you can't help other people if you're passed out. So you got to help yourself first and you got to put yourself first and your own goals first and figure out what you want before you can go through and help other people.
Paul's Journey to Becoming an Author
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So like you, for instance, wanted to lose a bunch of weight into a fitness competition.
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And I mean, if you knew how to do that, you would have just do that, right? But you're like, I need help with this. I did. I don't know what I'm doing. like And you got to be humble. You got to be humble and not think you know everything and empty your cup a little bit. And that's when, you you know, you need to find a mentor in this area. So you got to figure out what you want to do first. Brother, you have to. If if you don't know what you want to do, you're going to get nowhere in life, right?
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Yeah, OK, so um what made you decide to write a book in the first place? Well, like well like I said before, i was i'm I'm a really avid reader and i and I really started getting into this stuff, bless her heart, from and ex-girlfriend an-girlfriend. An ex-girlfriend of mine introduced me to ah concept of self-help books. Before that, I'd only ever read novels. And you know if you handed me a self-help book, I would have i would have ah put it on my bookshelf and never looked at it because I would have thought it was boring. But she introduced me to ah Dave Ramsey's Total Money Maker over this first book she gave me. And I listened to that book
00:26:25
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And it changed my life. the whole That whole book changed my life, changed my whole viewpoint on money. And when I realized that, um after she and I broke up, I was like, you know, I bet you there's some be there's some books out here that'll teach me how to keep some women around for a while.
00:26:44
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because i had I had gone through a divorce and in 2014 and then she and I broke up in 2019 and I was like, man, there's something I'm doing wrong here because the the two major relationships that I've had in my adult life have failed. What am I doing wrong? I'm the common denominator here. And I'm like, man, she taught me, she taught me about these books and she was always reading these, these, you know, leadership books and self-help books and stuff. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to, I think I'm going to start reading some material on this.
00:27:13
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and I ended up reading ah a book by a man named Corey Wayne. always call it how to be a I know that. Yeah. Yeah. So he he taught me um or his book, how to be a 3% man. One of the things that he says in that book is read my book 10 to 15 times. And so I was like, okay, that didn't really make a lot of sense to me until I started reading his book 10 to 15 times. And then I started studying Bob Proctor stuff and I realized Bob Proctor He studied Stick and Grow Rich and yeah, um yeah he he he's studied that book for like every day of his life for 60 plus years. And so I was like, man, and I just really started learning from all these guys and and just various concepts. and And I started putting, making my own content, start putting out TikTok videos, started making my own podcast and stuff. And people kept saying, when are when are you going to have a book? You keep talking about all these other people's books. When are you going to make a book? and i was like
00:28:08
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should write a book. You're right. I should put all these concepts that I've learned into a single book. So I finally broke down and started working on that. It took me a long time to write it. I don't know how long it takes you to write, but it took me a year and a half to write that first book. this The second book that I've covered out, it only took me a couple of days because I was so on fire about it. but um But this one, it took me a year and a half to put it all together and and get it get it out and get it published.
00:28:34
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but But that's why, yeah, because I had a lot of people saying, hey, when yeah I'm looking forward to your book, man. You keep talking about all these other people's books. When are you going to write one? I was like, ah, all right.
Inspiration from Mentor Thor
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All right, so I'll do that. Good, good, good. So what made you want to write a second book? Well,
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So I had already had an idea for a second book, and it's almost like, and I don't i don't know how you feel about it, but you you you get done with your first book, you start putting out, there's some buzz about it, and you're like, it's almost addicting, you know? You're like, oh, yeah I got another idea now. I think I'm gonna write another book about this. So i had this I've had this idea for a while to write this other book. I still have to write that one. But what happened was a good friend of mine,
00:29:18
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another Another mentor in my life, his name is R.P. Thor. he's ah He's a guy who's pretty well known in the the men's self-help space. And he got diagnosed with brain cancer. And he um it it hit him all. he he ah he did the audio He did the audio for my my my book. And he had written wrote a book himself earlier last year called A Dominant Masculine Presence.
00:29:46
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And it's a, it's a phenomenal book. It's kind of like, have you ever read boy crisis? Um, I haven't read it, but I have it. It's, it's one of the books that's on my list. Okay. I can read them and I read a hundred books a year. So Yeah, so Boy Crisis is pretty good at talking about the problem with masculinity in this country, but I don't think, what's his name, Warren? Farrell. Warren Farrell. I don't think his prescriptions are that good in the book. No, they're very sorry. He's a pussy. He's a pussy. Yeah, yeah. So he's like, yeah, we have to- No gun bullshit? Come on, come on, Warren. Get over yourself already.
00:30:26
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Right. So his prescriptions in the book are like, hey, we've had all these we have had all this stuff because of feminism caused a whole like several generations of guys to be pussies. Let's double down on the stuff that makes these guys pussies and and and tell them it's OK to be pussies. You know, it's like that's not going to fix it. no So Thor's book is is very similar. It's like, hey, we have a masculinity crisis. The the cure to that is to teach positive dominant masculinity.
00:30:53
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And so he wrote that book and then he got diagnosed with brain cancer. And he came up with this idea and he wanted to do this himself, but because of his, he's going through all these treatments, he can't do it.
00:31:06
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He decided to get a bunch of us in the space together, and we're all going to write a series of books based on his first book, ah because what he one of the things he lays out are seven Ps of a dominant masculine presence, stuff like problem solving, psychology, physicality.
00:31:26
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you know ah I'm trying to think of some of the other ones. but But those types of things are seven of them. And so he got us all together and he says, I want you guys to write a book based on one of the peas in the in the you know the that dominant seven peas of the dominant masculine presence. And so I was like, Oh, okay.
Interviewing Eric Everhard and Community Support
00:31:49
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You know, one of the things that I talk about a lot Um, is paradigm, you know, and, and those, a lot of the stuff I learned from Bob Proctor, but also from my, my karate instructor, Fred Bodie. So I was like, you know, I think I'm going to do a book on psychology paradigm and how our paradigms control our results in life. And so that's what this book, this next books on it's, it's called skills of a dominant masculine presence, psychology paradigm. And, um, so that one,
00:32:20
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but Yeah, it's great. I'd like to interview him. Is he still alive or did he pass away? No, Thor's still around. Yeah, i can I can put you in contact with him. You put me in touch with Eric Everhard. I enjoyed talking to Eric. We had two interviews, smart guy, thoughtful guy, and ah my woman was pissed. how you How can you be interviewing a porn star? This is so terrible. this ah yeah look honey No, I'm going to interview this dude. He's a good guy. I want to learn from him. And he's going to teach me how to be a better lover, among other things. Yeah. The porn porn like she she goes crazy over porn like not. Yeah, it's it's it's funny. Did you read his first book? I didn't read this. Unleash. I didn't read this. Oh, unleash your sexual superpowers. It's really good. But yeah, no, Eric, Eric is so funny for a guy who's
00:33:12
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Yeah, for a guy that was in that kind of business and lifestyle, he's so down to earth. He's so helpful. He will bend over backwards for his friends. And he and I have become good friends over the last couple of years. he's He's a really great guy. Yeah, I'll probably have him back on the show. He's a good man. I like him.
00:33:30
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yeah I like him. I like to see him be successful and help men get better at at and being good lovers to their women. I think that that keeps relationships strong. so you know He's doing God's work as far as I'm concerned. It may have strayed off the beaten path for a while, but that happens to the best of us.
00:33:47
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you know it's ah It's good. so um positive, dominant masculinity. What a concept. I really, really like that. This fellow Thor, he must be a pretty thoughtful man. thor Thor's the best of us. um It's funny when when he when he got diagnosed,
00:34:10
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all the guys in the manosphere, like whether you like them or hate them, got together to rally behind this guy. Guys like Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate, Tristan Tate donated $10,000 to Thor, Thor's medical treatments. And and think about Thor's You guys will love this. Thor, his wife, Missy, got into, I mean, you won't love this, but you'll love what Thor's done about it. Thor's wife, Missy, got to a really nasty accident four years ago, and she's basically wheelchair bound. and so and It's, it's, oh, it's terrible. And Thor
00:34:45
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You know, he has been doing nothing but just taking care of her, being her number one caregiver and stuff like that over the last several years. And then when this happened, it was like, ah he was like, oh, crap, like, what am I going to do? Because my wife Missy needs me. And I've got this terminal.
00:35:03
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condition. And so all the guys in the space got together and you know some of the biggest names, Pearl pearl Davis, whether you like her hate or hate her, she offered up her platform so we could do a fundraiser for for Thor and his wife to make sure that they were taken care of. Another porn star in the space, Sterling Cooper, offered to take care of all of Missy's ah home healthcare care because Thor can't do it now. She needs a home healthcare nurse.
00:35:31
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Sterling's like, I'll pay for it. Don't worry about it. you know and Wow. that's but that's a that's That's a community. it It really is, and and it's and it's funny because ah the Red Pill space gets a bad rap. you know ah you you know If you you hear certain people, they think that it's all about hating women. It's it's never been about hating women. It's ah this male sexual strategy is what it is, and a positive masculine identity. That's all it's ever really been, but you get a lot of guys that that make give us a bad name, that all they do is talk smack about women. Maybe they have a podcast where they ah give girls white claws and kick them off. I don't know.
00:36:07
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but But that doesn't help men be better men. That's funny as shit. But but but what if if you actually get down and listen to it, got you know guys like Rolo, you would think based on people that quote him that he hates women. Rolo's been married for 28, almost 29 years now. Rolo's had a successful marriage. He's a good dude. um But a lot of guys don't hear that. They hear the the negative stuff. And so we get a bad rap, which is fine. But but yeah, I mean, Thor Thor is just a pillar of the community and and everyone knows him and and everyone got behind him. and And his book is phenomenal. I'd like to interview him. I'd
Defining Masculinity
00:36:48
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like to read his book. it It sounds great. um You know,
00:36:54
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I don't know. Look, i've not I bought Rolo's books. I haven't read them. I started to read one of them, and I put it aside. Other things kind of took priority, but I'd like to at some point. I listened to him extensively on a couple of different podcasts.
00:37:08
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um Some of what he says I agree with, some of what he says I absolutely disagree with pretty strongly. Andrew Tate, I support him because what's what's being done to him is bullshit.
00:37:22
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um I gotta be honest, i'm not I'm not thrilled that this guy gives advice on how to make money and the biggest way that he made his money is he got girls to get naked on and on camera.
00:37:38
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You know, yeah like as a, as an uncle to some lovely young women who are nieces, man, I don't know. i I was that man that went after girls with daddy issues. And I'm looking back now, I, that was not my finest moment. You know what I'm saying? Not my finest moment. And I got an issue with that. And I subscribed to his email list and I get his emails. A lot of what he says I like.
00:38:08
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But his sales strategy is so fear of loss oriented. So you're a fucking idiot if you don't pay attention to me. And he hits the emotional button so well. Yeah, that ain't my jam. I mean, a little bit of that is fine from my point of view, but it ain't my jam. But I'm gonna support him as long as the the matrix is coming after him because the matrix is the enemy. He's not the enemy. He's just somebody who I think's a little misguided. and You know, I'm going to say this, right? One problem I have with
00:38:40
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ah a lot of the energy of the red pill community is, even though there's some elders in there, there's a lot of young man energy in there. Dudes in their 30s, and no offense, but you're in your fucking 30s, you haven't lived life. Maybe you've got a six pack, maybe you've made a shit ton of money, good for fucking you. Do you think that's what makes a man a man? That he has a six pack and he's got a massive bank account? You're an idiot if that's what you think makes a man a man. The manliest man I know is 70 years old, he's fat, he smokes,
00:39:09
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He does not have a ton of money. He's the manliest man I know. You know what makes him the manliest man I know? You can fucking take what he says to the bank. I'm talking from what time he'll show up to whether he'll send you an email or make a phone call to you to ah an agreement he's made to do business with you. It's all gold. That's a man.
00:39:35
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Nothing else makes a man a man. Not how much money he has. Not how big his fucking muscles are. Not how many broads he slept with. How good's your fucking word? How count-onable are you on? This is the manliest man I know. And I don't know Andrew Tidd, I've never met Andrew Tidd. I don't know Rollo, I've never met Noel. I've never met any of these dudes, okay? I don't want to say anything bad about them. But are you fucking kidding me? I guarantee you their word is not that good. I guarantee you it's not that good. Guaranteed. My word is not that good and my word is better than 5,000 men that I know. You know, I want to be like this guy. I aspire to be like him. Every day I go, how the fuck does he do it? Why am I still such a pussy that I can't do it this good? You know what I'm saying?
00:40:20
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Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. yeah Integrity and congruence. It is really a trait of a ah a dominant masculine presence, I would say. Yeah, I've never i've actually never met i've never met the Tates myself either. I have met Rolo. I met Rolo once. I went and i went to ah Las Vegas once that I got to meet him. um One thing I will say about Rolo is He changed the course of my podcast. He, um, I had him on, this was before I got into the red pill. I wasn't even really on board with red pill yet. I was sort of like, eh, they have some good points, but you know, a lot of what they say is negative. They hate women and stuff. And so, but I had him on. I never believed that.
00:41:04
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yeah yeah yeah Yeah, I'm not saying you did, but that's what I thought. yeah and so I had him on and and he he made time for me and then he had a problem where his computer crashed like right in the middle of us recording. and At this time, I hadn't really talked to many well-known people in the space, well-known authors and stuff. and He's like, hey man, sorry, I'm not gonna be able to do this. And I was like, that's okay, we got 30 minutes out of it. Like, ah yeah I just appreciate your time. And and he goes, no, no, we're gonna finish this up. Like, what's your what's your schedule look like tomorrow? And I was like, ah yeah, I'm open, I'm open at this time. He's like, yeah, yeah, well, I'll get this all fixed up. We'll do it tomorrow, we'll finish up your show. He didn't have to do that for me, but he he did that and i was I was nobody. So I would say like Rolo,
00:41:52
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is a guy with integrity. Sometimes what you see on the camera is sort of kayfabe, but yeah I've never met Andrew Tate, so there's really not much I can say about about him. Yeah, well, you know, I get it that that that's that's a man. That's a man. That's a dude who follows through on his word. I'm impressed. A lot more impressed than the shit I've heard him say when I've when I've seen him be interviewed. But that's that's that's definitely a manly thing to do.
Cultural Shifts in Gen Z
00:42:19
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The the red pill space is doing something that I think is necessary. It's waking a lot of fucking men up. And I read a um read an article
00:42:30
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I forget who wrote it, but they were talking about the rise of the right-wing Gen Z man in that Millennials tend to be quite liberal and left but Gen Zers tend to be very right-wing and The reason is because they're the ones who've been shit on and told that just for being a man There's something wrong with you and obviously that's not a message a lot of men are gonna take too well to you know Yeah, and They are very right-wing. They are very non-woke. And I have hope for the future because of these young men. These young men are not going to put up with me. You think the pendulum's swinging back a little bit? I think the pendulum for the young men, it's swinging back hard, man. I have an 18-year-old son and a 16-year-old son. And I'm telling you, these are not pussies. Now, they got me as their dad. That helps. But these are not pussies.
00:43:28
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These these dudes did not buy the woke bullshit that they were being fed at ah at school. They went to a private school that we sent them to a Catholic private school. But even that got infected a little bit with the woke virus, the kids would come home and they'd be laughing at the bullshit that people would be telling them because they know it's crap. And that gives me a lot of hope, a lot of hope. That's good. I have noticed ah there's a lot of There's a lot of people sort of waking up to some of the DEI stuff, especially with Trump, yeah the the assassination attempt on on Trump and you know the the the complete
00:44:05
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just incompetence of the ah secret service because of like some of their hiring practices, because they wanted to be woke and they're like, this guy oh this guy could have died. And you have this lady that can't even draw her gun and she's in the field because of DEI. And so you see a lot of people second guessing this. You see a lot of companies saying, we're not doing this anymore. ah You see shows like Deadpool and Wolverine making a billion dollars at the box office.
00:44:31
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And so now you have like male Disney executives going, wait a second. All this woke shit that we've been trying to shove down people's throats for the last five years have absolutely epically failed. And we give people a guy's movie and it makes billions of dollars. but Something's not right here, right? So people are sort of waking up to the fact that no one likes this woke bullshit. No matter how much they try to shove it down our throats, we don't like it.
00:44:57
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No, we don't. we We absolutely don't. And young men are stepping up hard and strong ah for traditional masculinity. And that's what gives me hope. I think that God is on our side. I think he turned Donald Trump's head at the last instant. I think I was divinely inspired. That did not just happen because of luck.
00:45:19
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And I think that men like you doing what you do, men like me doing what I do, we are part of the vanguard to make sure that men, manhood and masculinity, once again, find their honored place in society. And I'll give you the last word.
00:45:37
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Yeah, well, I agree with that. I certainly hope that's true. um One of the things that I do disagree with Rolo on, right, is that he says that we can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. You know, he says there is no pendulum swing back. We're only going forward. It's only going to be like this going forward. And I'm like, there you are I disagree. I disagree. I mean, you can you can look at some of these things that maybe don't work out well, right like marriage laws and you know that that we in the Red Bull space don't really like. But that doesn't mean that we can't move forward and navigate in a certain way to where we could still have health relationships healthy raise healthy kids, raise kids to do the right thing.
00:46:19
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We do try to take morality out of the equation when we're talking about red pill stuff, but that doesn't mean we can't apply our own morals on top of this stuff. you know So I think all that kind of stuff is good. i do I do see that the pendulum swing is going to come back. It has to. It's universal law. I don't know if you've ever studied ah Ancient hermetic philosophy, but there is a allegedly a law of the universe um The law of rhythm that says that things absent flow, you know as it swings one way It's got to swing back the other way. So I I believe in the universal law. I think it's gonna it's gonna do that and um Hopefully sooner rather than later what goes up must come down as above so below and Look ah
00:47:06
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i I think you got to fight like hell in the US of A to get Donald Trump elected. So don't be complacent for one nanosecond. In any persuadable, you should try to persuade him um to vote for Trump. But I don't think God saved his life to hand this over to the devil spawn that is Kamala.
00:47:29
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um Yeah, it's almost like it's almost like at this point, anybody but Kamala or Joe is a better choice. It's Donald Trump. He's the choice. And ah when you're doing what you do and you're talking to people who aren't sure which way to go, do everything in your power to persuade them to go Trump's way. You're not going to persuade the hardcore leftist and you shouldn't try. But somebody who's unsure, they're persuadable and we need to be fighting for every vote.
Take Charge of Your Life
00:48:00
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Yeah, I think my my my mom, she ah she volunteers for the, or she used to volunteer for the local Republican party and stuff like that. I've met, and but I got to, meet because of that, I got to meet people like, you know, Lauren Boebert, who people don't really like too much anymore, but I got to meet her. ah Yeah, I think, you know, I would say my mom would agree with that statement. Amen. Amen. Paul, thanks for coming on the show. And that's all right.
00:48:25
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