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EP178: Jamie Lima - Don't Do It Alone - The Shitstorm That Is Divorce
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“There are so many dudes out there that need the help of people like myself and other therapists and divorce coaches, and they don’t pick up the phone, they don’t ask for the help because everybody has John Wayne syndrome.”
Divorce isn’t just a legal process; it’s a complete upheaval of your emotional, financial, and mental worlds. The truth is, most people walk into it underprepared, thinking they can “figure it out” as they go. That’s a mistake. Divorce demands strategy, whether it’s navigating the legal complexities, dividing assets, or recalibrating your life after the dust settles. Smart planning—think prenups, financial foresight, and clear boundaries—can save you from unnecessary heartbreak and financial ruin. The core lesson? Treat your divorce like a high-stakes business deal—leave emotion at the door, and always come prepared with a team of experts.
Our guest for this episode is a financial expert who turned his own painful divorce into a mission to help others. After navigating an $85,000 divorce battle, he realized the importance of preparation, prenups, and knowing when to call in reinforcements. His business specializes in the financial nuances of divorce—alimony, child support, asset division, you name it—and he urges men to ditch the “John Wayne syndrome” of doing it alone. The takeaway is clear: whether you’re considering a divorce, going through one, or reflecting on the past, the right support can transform a personal disaster into a manageable challenge.
Jamie Lima: With over 20 years of financial planning expertise, Jamie is the founder of Woodson Wealth Management and Allegiant Divorce Solutions. After experiencing a difficult divorce firsthand, he pivoted to help others avoid the financial and emotional traps he encountered. Based in San Diego, Jamie’s companies serve clients across the U.S., specializing in divorce financial planning, retirement strategies, and asset management. His work ensures that clients are equipped to make informed decisions during life’s toughest transitions.
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Transcript
The Hesitation of Men to Seek Help
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Dudes, there are so many dudes out there that need the help of people like myself and yeah other like therapists and divorce coaches, people that can help them navigate divorce if they need it and they don't and they don't pick up the phone, they don't ask for the help because everybody has John Wayne syndrome. We help with all all the financial nuances of a divorce, alimony calculations, child support calculations, dividing up assets, you you name it, we'll we'll help with with all those aspects. so i knew how to treat her then but i know now we were never gotten divorced it would have ever
00:00:33
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Welcome to the Sovereign Man podcast, where we aim to make men masculine again.
Introduction to Sovereign Man Podcast
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I'm your man, Nikki Baloo, and we have a very special guest for you today, Jamie Lima. Jamie, welcome. What's happening, man? Thanks for having me. Good to see you again. Good to see you. So, brother, folks here don't know you, who you are, what you do, what you're all about, fill us in.
Jamie's Journey in Financial Divorce Planning
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Yeah, man. Well, I think you and I got to meet each other on my podcast, so thank you for for joining me on online where we talk to all things of the shitstorm that is divorce, right? so i I have a specialization in in helping ah people navigate the financial nuances of divorce. I've been doing this work for a long, long time. and ah That's how we got to know each other, but yeah, I've been been in the financial world for like 20 years now and went through a pretty nasty divorce myself a few years back and decided to launch a company that helps people with all the financial nuances of divorce. We do all kinds of crazy stuff like dividing up retirement accounts and make sure people would get screwed with alimony or they maximize their alimony depending on what side of the coin you're on. But yeah, we do all kinds of crazy stuff relative to to ah divorce.
The Fallout of Jamie's Marriage
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So tell me your story of divorce. What happened? Good question. How much time do we have? All the time we need? oh i I decided i decided to in in late 2016 or so, two thousand early 2017, that I had had enough. and My situation was such where I was kind of, um ah the agreement that we had was that we were going to have some kids, they were going to raise a family, but there was going to be a point in time where she was going to ultimately you know use the education and the experience and the background she had to go back to work to help financially and everything else. and
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It became abundantly clear ah that that was not her vision of how things were going to go down after, after my youngest daughter, who's now 12, was born. And it was kind of time to like get back in the throes of things, get back into work, the spring of, spring of work. And that, that never came to fruition. So I was like, I'm not doing this. Like, this is not how, this is not what my life was designed to be. This is not my vision of it. This is not what I want out of my life. And decided that I wanted to force in 2017. And.
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Mickey, i was I was one of those guys where I was like, you know, this doesn't have to be like cutthroat and all, you know, like it doesn't have to be like super expensive. We can probably do this on our own. Like, let's just like figure out how to make this the best it possibly can be given a shitty circumstance. And um like, you know, we'll go our separate ways, but you know, we'll we'll work together through this.
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And she looked me dead in the eye and said, I am going to make this as painful and as expensive as I possibly can. I was like, Oh, okay. So then I had a lawyer up and you know, $85,000 later I was divorced. It was a mess, long drawn out year long, exhausting, expensive experience. And it didn't have to be that way.
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So.
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um
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You were married, your wife and you had an understanding that she was going to go back to work after the kids were born at a certain time. She decided she didn't want to do that anymore. That didn't work for you. You wanted to get divorced. You wanted it to be amicable and she didn't.
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Once that happened, bottom line. That's the clue for those version. i guess I guess my question is, are you surprised that she felt that way? I'm not surprised. Were you at the point?
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What's that? Were you at the time surprised that she fought? I wasn't surprised that that would be her response. I was more surprised that she was but surprised that it had come to that point.
Perception Differences and Prenups
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right like We had been sleeping in separate bedrooms for almost a year. like no that like If that's happening, you shouldn't be surprised that you're getting a divorce.
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Right. I mean, like, come on. It's like I'm not 75 years old. Right. Like, you know, like at the time I was I don't even think I was 40 yet when that happened. Right. Like, who wants to like if you're married to somebody, you don't want to sleep in separate bedrooms.
00:05:59
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And and if there's if the if there was an agreement, a mutual agreement that there there was some that something was going to take place, and then that doesn't come to fruition, you know as i I was more surprised that she was. But you do realize you were married to a woman, right? like I mean, i'm I'm sorry, Jamie, but like… You're like, so like you sound like I had an agreement with a woman, but everything I know about women is they don't, they don't treat agreements the way we men do. Like you and I make an agreement. We shake on it. I'm i'm going to expect you to keep your word. I make an agreement with my woman. I'm kind of three quarters expecting that if her mood shift, she's going to change her mind. yeah coming yeah i have you Which is why, which is why I'm such a proponent of prenuptial agreements for a lot of people that work with, you know, like, because for that exact reason, but
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Yeah, man, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I was ah was obviously naive at that point, and and I was like, all right, I guess i guess we know what direction this is going, and here in here we are.
Impact of Divorce on Children
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Well, you know, I mean, listen. ah
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What you're telling me, I mean, it it's going through a divorce is shitty. um Having the divorce costs money is bad for everybody, most especially the kids, because $85,000 that could have gone to your kids went to a lawyer, and that's fucked, from my point of view. That's fucked and and fucked.
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but Everything, you know, I went through a divorce myself, everything I learned about women and how they operate, which I've spent a lot of time studying since my divorce, because I sure as fuck didn't know a lot before the divorce is um there's a.
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they They don't agreements keeping your word is not a woman thing. It's not a feminine thing. It's a masculine thing It's what men do. It's not what women do. I mean throughout history ah a Woman could tell you this morning. Hey yeah Jamie, you're the greatest guy in the world. I love you I want to I want to move in with you and I want to I'll fly to Texas and live in Texas with you Let's move to Texas and then She gets pissed off at you 10 minutes later and she says, fuck you, go to hell, right? I ain't going anywhere with you. I i mean, my my my woman, um i'm I'm with a woman right now who's spectacular and fantastic and she's very feminine and very emotional and you know keeping her word ain't her thing. It's just not her thing. It's nobody's thing, no woman's thing that I know. With men, like it was you, like, I don't know.
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If you and I had an agreement around a business, for example, I yeah i said to you, ja Jamie, I'm going to hire you and have your services. Here's a handshake deal. I'm going to keep my word. I'm going to keep my word. i both out out like yeah I would need to have like a rock dropped on me and be physically unable not to keep my word, to not keep my word. You know you know what I mean? But if it was my wife,
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ah
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They don't keep their word. that's That's a fact. They just don't. Well, well yeah i want you to make I want you to be one of those people that takes my advice and gets a prenup the second door out. Yeah, that's if I get married again. I mean, though this lady and I get together and the prenups I think are a great idea, period. I mean, especially if one partner is way wealthier than the other, it just makes sense that you You have a prenup for what you had before you came into the marriage, because otherwise you could yeah you could totally lose everything you got. Well, hey man, I mean, there's there's an insurance for everything, right? You don't have any insurance for your car, you have any insurance for your home, you have life insurance, you have insurance yeah to the nth degree and everything, right? I mean, we even have E&O insurance, errors of admission insurance for the work that we do to make sure if we make a mistake is to protect our clients. But but there's ah but like nobody ever gets marriage insurance.
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Marriage insurance is... That's exactly what a prenup is. Yeah. Yeah, marriage insurance. I think that's smart. but There's such a stigma around it. There's such a stigma around it. and People don't want to talk about it. They don't want to say they got one. They don't want to talk about it with their significant other, all these other things, man. It can blow up in your face if you know if you don't protect yourself.
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Yeah, no, that makes sense. I mean, i mean that absolutely makes sense. But I also think it's, you know. A man like you, if if my son was getting married ah right now, the first thing I'd sit down with him and tell him is, say, look, son, you can't expect her to keep her word like you would a man. You just can't. It's not going to happen. And if she tells you right now, oh, yeah, someday I'll go back to work. And then she goes, you know what? I changed my mind. You should actually expect that. That's kind of like their nurturing instinct that comes through. After they've had kids for a while, they want to stay with their kids. They don't want to work.
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um And it's my ex-wife is ah a CEO right now of a company. She's like hardcore, like a nonprofit, actually. She is like hard. She she won the and NBA case competition in Canada. OK, like this is a smart business oriented woman. After she had her second child, she said, if you can make all the money, I don't have to work. I'm all in. She told me that this is
The Role of Prenups as Financial Safeguards
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before we got divorced. She said, I'm all in. And I did, yeah you know,
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By the time other issues came came back and blew apart marriage, I was actually pretty close to making that happen. But blew apart marriage, she went back into the world that she was in. She's the CEO of this nonprofit right now, global company. I don't even know what to call a nonprofit. It's not really a company, but global organization and and all that. And she wanted to stay home. I mean, that's how they're wired. they' They're wired to have kids and stay home.
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sounds like doable
00:11:57
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I don't think so. I don't think so. I wish we had stayed together. I wish we had stayed together. I wish ah wish that my my kids didn't live in two separate homes. Honestly, it's so best for them if we had stayed in one house. um At the time, ah ah there were other reasons she didn't want to be married anymore. and ah yeah I was upset with her and i i didn't know how to I didn't know how to be the kind of man who would be able to handle her issues then. And those issues were around my youngest son being born with a medical condition that almost killed him. And she freaked out. and I didn't handle it while I handled her freak out by getting angry instead of calming her down, which is what I should have done. Wow. And so the kids now, like what what are the ages of the kids I forget? 16 and 18. Okay.
00:12:48
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oh yeah Yeah, we've been separated, I mean divorced, but we haven't had the kids live in the same house for 15 years now. Yeah. it's That's all only mean that that's to the environment they know, I guess, effectively, right? Well, you know, one day I asked my my my sons, I said, you know, um what do you love about, you know, your life? What do you not love about your life? What do you love about your mom, your dad, your brothers, all of that.
00:13:16
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yeah and The one thing they both said is, I wish I didn't have to go from house to house. And they said that, and that ripped me up when I heard them say it, it ripped me right up. yeah I didn't want that. i didn't I didn't want them to have that. And you know looking at her now, she's... um She's a good woman ah who honestly was taught by this crazy world of ours that, you know, if your husband acts a certain way, divorce him, leave him. And she ended up with a guy after me who was a deadbeat and lived with her for years. She didn't get a prenup and, you know, now she's she's got issues in dealing with him. and And I feel horrible about that. I feel horrible about what that means for her, for the children.
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ah
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I wish I'd have been enough of a man to be able to deal with her angst. With my current woman right now, I deal with her angst a lot better. That's just because ah I've been learning how to do that. um And I don't know if we're going to get married. Candidly, she doesn't seem like she wants to. And that's okay. I'm i'm good with it. I'm okay not to be married. Not looking to have kids at my age. you know Come on, dude.
00:14:39
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Yeah, so I don't know. but you you want to
Improving Relationship Management for Men
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meet You don't want to wake up like every 20 minutes at night and at at our age? No. know out I don't know. I think it's important. What you say is important. Preenups are important. But I think even more important is to learn how to learn how to deal with a woman for a man. ah Learn how to pick the right woman because it's easy to pick the wrong woman. That's for darn sure. Too many guys pick the wrong gal.
00:15:08
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um and do your best, do your doneness to keep the family together. a I didn't spend $85,000 on the divorce, but I spent enough for it to piss me off. you know so yeah it it Like you said earlier, it's just a gigantic waste of money anyway. because It is all all you're doing is. All you're doing is paying for your eternity to send emails or file this form or do this thing. like we we never We never really stepped foot in the courtroom.
00:15:39
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You know, it's, it'd be one thing if you spend that kind of money and you have like you know a week long case, you know, like I'm like, like, like a major case or something. I could see that, but for the work that was done and and the actual time spent on the tasks, I can't, I, it's just, it's just money pissed away. I mean, like you said, he was taken taken away from the kids, frankly. You know, you're talking about, I mean, that money, that money, even 10 years ago, probably, you know, more than if doubled for college savings accounts.
00:16:09
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Yeah, I mean, but hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn, you know? It's true. You lived it. You lived it. yeah And, you know, now it's just a matter of, you know, now I'm on this personal mission of of making sure that other people don't step on the same landmines, you know, but, you know, the the thing that I've seen, though, Nikki,
00:16:34
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is that dudes, there are so many dudes out there that need the help of people like myself and yeah other like therapists and divorce coaches, people that can help them navigate divorce if they need it, and they don't pick up the phone, they don't ask for the help because everybody has a John Wayne syndrome.
00:16:54
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Oh, brother, with all respect, I think you're what you're saying is true at the end of the day. If you're stuck in that position, you better get the help you need. Otherwise, you're screwed. yeah But the help they need first is to not fuck up their marriage in the first place. Because the help you needed back then was to have someone tell you, don't expect your woman to keep her word. you Like, I would have slapped you upside the head if you told me that and you were in my inner circle. I'd say, you really expected she was going to keep her word? Are you a dummy?
00:17:22
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Wake up, that's a girl. That's not a guy. You're sleeping with a girl. She's not a guy. She doesn't have a cock between her legs. She's not gonna be like you. I mean, that's the first thing. ah it the The biggest scourge of our society today is how many damn divorces are taking place that don't need to take place. I mean, if a divorce is gonna take place, and unfortunately these days they are, if if you have no choice, that's one thing. But I think too many people, the first choice is divorce, not the last.
00:17:52
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And I think yeah at the very least, my own opinion is for the, for and this just, it's my opinion, for the sake of kids, it's way better to keep the family together. It's way easier on them. I mean, the stats on kids from intact homes versus kids from divorced homes are staggering. They're not good. yeah yeah They're not good, man. You know, in terms of teen pregnancies, in terms of, you know, kids that do drugs, kids that end up committing crimes,
00:18:20
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They're hair raising. When I saw those stats after we initially got split up, the first thing I did was I just said, what do I need to do to make sure they're not part of these statistics?
00:18:33
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And I just took a lot of time to make sure the kids spend a lot of time with me. And I made sure that they never heard a with bad thing about their mom for me. I just, I took all of it on me. I said, it's all my fault, not mom's fault at all. My kid, he was three years old and he said, well, I know it's not mommy's fault. And I go, yeah, you're right. It's not mommy's fault. And, you know, in my heart, I thought I wanted to scream, yeah, it's your mommy's fault. But you know that's that's not what I was going to tell him. and and Everything I did was raise them a certain way, be with them a certain way, ah teach them things in a certain way, um and do my best to get along with her, do everything I could to get along with her. And for the first year in a bit, it was tough because you know it wasn't, as you know, divorces aren't fun in the initial situations at all. But yeah right now, we get along well, we really do. um And she's even come on vacation with the kids and me and my new lady.
00:19:28
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so Wow. So it's now amicable and you guys are all getting along. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And how does, how does the middle lady get along with her? They're friends. They're good friends actually. They like each other. Good. It is. Trust me, it makes my life easier. I was going to say, don't fuck it up.
00:19:55
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No, no, no. I've learned my lesson. I've learned my lesson. I've learned my lesson. That's for darn sure. I mean, I hired some coaches. They got it through my thick skull that don't treat women like men. And yeah I wish I just knew this before, before the whole divorce thing happened. If I knew how to treat her then, then I know now we would have never gotten divorced. It would have never happened.
00:20:23
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It would have it wouldve stayed the way it is. But you know like you say, guys need help. I mean, I was smart. I got help when I needed. I had a lawyer. I had other people I brought into the play that you know we met with ah with a couple of relationship counselors together, all of that. And it it helped. And we negotiated what I thought at the time was a fair divorce and and separation agreement.
00:20:53
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But still it costs way too much money. um Way too much money. Do you still think it was fair and equitable when you look back? Yeah. yeah i mean Better it didn't happen. Better we didn't have to spend the money on the fucking lawyers yeah and all of that. But at the end of the day, you know she what she asked for I could live with and I pushed back on a couple of things and she she gave in on them. and
00:21:24
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I didn't have to spend nearly the amount of money you had to spend, but probably spent 15, 20 grand on lawyers, another 20 grand on fees, I mean 40 grand. yeah No big deal, no big deal. But there's guys who are spending millions, right? Guys who don't have prenups, you know, gals, like my ex who didn't have a prenup with the next guy, that's terrible. That destroys their lives, right?
00:21:54
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Well, I mean, it's like you, you, you have all these people that are out there that that are spending hundreds of thousands. out I don't know about millions, but maybe you know hundreds of thousands of dollars on these divorces that are, you know, they may be a CEO of a, of a company or they may, you know, they may just be, you know, built their wealth one way or another. And and we're dealing with that. Then you have, you know, you have people like myself, well I'm not LeBron James. I spent gods of money.
00:22:18
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war and you have people like you like the tom um' i know you're wearing a yintee shirt i'm going to say it though do like i grew up in rhode island i'm a red sox fan sa at a more um' sorry gru from around like I'm not a Yankees fan, brother. I live in Toronto. I'm a Blue Jays fan. I just wore the shirt because it's a nice looking shirt.
00:22:38
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but yeah Because of the Juan Soto decided to leave yesterday for $750 million or whatever it was. um Wow, that's crazy. Somebody like the Tom Brady, Giselle scenario of the world. right They had everything dialed in. they had like And within just a few weeks, it's over.
00:22:56
Speaker
Yeah, that's just—listen. That's because she's an idiot. Like, honestly. Like, she got mad because the man was pursuing his passion. And that's that's a case of a woman not understanding what a man was like. I think she was also she's also fucking a fucking karate instructor, too. I think that doesn't help.
00:23:16
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well I don't know about that but like she's i think she is she just she's pregnant now if she's pregnant with her karate instructors or come food instructor or taekwondo or whatever it is okay good good's good for her but i mean at the time when the two of those at the time when the two of them were married Um, for her to lose her shit because this man decided he was going to go back and play football again. And this has been his dream. Like women need to understand that men aren't women and they're not family first. It's not who we are. We're purpose first. It's, it's, it's.
00:23:51
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They may not like it, but it's a fact. And a good woman understands that and respects that and won't try to force a man to shit on his purpose and choose between his purpose and his family. And that's what she did. And she fucked up her ah her her family over that. That's on her. That's not on him him. That's on her. I have no issue with what he did. he shouldn't he there's There's no problem with a man like him going, you know what? I still feel the fire to play. She should have said, OK, keep playing.
00:24:20
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family You'll be here when you're done and he would have been done. He needed to scratch the itch a little bit more I mean like the guy wanted when he went out on a whopping 66 games that year and and the season was over so it was it was all was over but and man I Mean, like it's just it's just bananas the amount of money that spent on these things it is it is bananas,
Avoiding Divorce Pitfalls with Financial Planning
00:24:41
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but I think men need to learn how to deal with women and women need to learn how to deal with men and you know her her ah Her decision to break up her family over him trying to follow his purpose is a problem. It's a massive problem from my point of view. I think she did a really bad thing. Bad thing for her children, bad thing for her. Now she's got another guy that she's gotten pregnant from. Good for her, I suppose. But how's she gonna feel about having kids with two different men? yeah like That's weird, man. I don't think women should do that, personally. but
00:25:21
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whatever, you know, Gisele Gisele, but he was, you know, he isn't the most upright guy. He was with ah Bridget Moynihan and she was pregnant with his child and she and he left her for supermodel lady. It's not exactly the most honorable thing a man can do, right? Hey, let me leave my pregnant lady for a hotter woman. cut Hello.
00:25:46
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Yeah, I don't know. And I guess i guess when you you at some point status-wise you just like rationality just goes by the wayside. Yeah, this is one of the things that I think is a problem with um the the men's space today. You've got these younger men who are in their 30s, who are going around telling men that, hey, if you make enough money or you're successful enough, it's okay if you sleep with multiple women. It's okay if you throw your girl aside when you find a hotter model. And I'm like, in what fucking universe do you think that's okay? That is not okay. That's the ego gratification of a teenage boy.
00:26:34
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You know, that's not okay. In my books, that's not okay. What Brady did was not okay. What his wife Giselle did to him was not okay. But you know, that's karma. What goes around comes around. You were a shit to your first woman. And you know, god God had your second woman be a shit to you to teach you a lesson. So whatever.
00:26:55
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God bless him. He's a hell of a football player. i I'll give you that much, but I don't know him personally. I don't really care. It's just a salutary lesson for younger men. I just, I have a son who's 18 years old. He's starting to become successful. I just want to make sure that he doesn't become one of these guys who just decides that, okay, just cause I'm successful, that means I can do whatever I want with whatever woman I want. And if there's a woman that I'm in a relationship with, it's okay. If I cheat on him, I don't want him to be that kind of man.
00:27:24
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I don't think that's okay. What's he doing? He works, man. He's so he's a fitness coach and trainer ah for a company, and the same company that I hired to help me lose 60 pounds last year. wow So he started training with ah the owner of that company because he was my trainer too. They hit it off. He hired him to work there in the summer. He was all set to go to university. And then he came to me and he said, dad, not going to university. I'm going to keep working. And so I've got a college fund set aside for him, but looks like I'm not going to be spending it this year and I might not spend it at all. So we'll see. Wow. um Okay.
00:28:14
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Did you give him any time? Like, did you have a year to figure it out or two years to figure it out? Did you give him any time? No, he's an adult. He makes his own money and can make his own decisions. I'm not going to tell him what to do.
00:28:27
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You know, not going to treat him like a child. He's a man now, pays his own bills. God bless him. There's things I advise him on, but he's got to make his own choices. Yeah, good for him.
00:28:43
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Yeah, I think so. I think so. I mean, you know, until the 60s, there was no such thing as a teenager, right? You were either a boy living at home or you were a man. There's none of this in between stage bullshit. yeah yep right and I don't know. I guess I'm starting to, you know, create a throwback situation, at least in my family. Throw that. Yeah.
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So Val, why't you why don't you tell the folks about your your company a little bit, what you guys do? Yeah. ah So the company I run, I actually run two different companies. um I have a company called Woodson Wealth Management. We are at the base of Mount Woodson here in CDO, California. And that company, I started about five years ago. My timing was impeccable. I started i left the the confines of a big name company.
00:29:43
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with amazing salary and all these perks and benefits and everything else and decided, yeah, I should go start my own company in April of 2020. Remember what was happening in April of 2020? Remember the throes of COVID with um zero clients, zero income and zero revenue. i might as well you It sounds like an amazing idea.
00:30:06
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I'm kidding, ah but we yeah we've we've we've had some amazing growth and we've we've we've done pretty well over the course of the last four and a half, almost five years now. ah So we have a wealth management company where we do traditional retirement planning, investments, and yeah state planning, insurance, all this stuff that a lot of your listeners probably need help with. but Over the course of the last couple of years, we I did change tack a little bit and started focusing a little more on on the divorce by actual planning. so We set up a separate company to do that work called Allegiant Divorce Solutions.
00:30:38
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leg divorce solutions and Here in the US, we are like killing it right now. We're we're getting 120 people a month that are knocking on our door asking for help ah with their divorce. We help with all the financial nuances of a divorce.
00:30:55
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alimony calculations, child support calculations, dividing up assets, you know, you name it, we'll we'll help with ah all those aspects. So ah we have a small team that's helping me work to do that work now. but We work at all 50 states. Since we virtually, all of both both businesses, we do 100% virtual. um So we've been 100% virtual for the last almost five years now. And working all 50 states, been great. Yeah.
00:31:24
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yeah You know, if a man's going through divorce, he ought to have a conversation with you. That's 100% true. He ought to have a conversation with you and um get his head out of his ass and make sure he doesn't get divorce raped. Because, you know, it's a thing, divorce rape. It's horrible.
00:31:49
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what man I mean, it's almost, I mean, 50% of marriages end in divorce. So you might as well, you know, if you happen to be on the wrong side of that coin, you know, you might as well get the help you need. And that was that that was, I think that was one of the biggest mistakes I made in my own divorce, but it's just not thinking I could do it all on my own. Right? Like, I've got this. I've been a financial planner for many years now. Well, as long as I need help on the legal side, it's going to go. Don't do it all. Not so fast.
00:32:21
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Don't do it alone, the shit storm that is divorce. That's gonna be the name of this episode.
00:32:30
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It's true, man. It's true. How long you been divorced now, Jamie? Seven, almost eight years. Almost eight years. Are you getting married again, or are you? I'm sorry, remarried, and you ye yeah. yep.
00:32:49
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It is much different experience when you get your ducks in a row and you yeah you you spend some time deciding what you want and who you want to be with and you get on the same page, so to speak. It's definitely different experience. Definitely different experience. Awesome. Jamie, you're a good man. Enjoyed my conversation with you. um We'll make sure we put your company information in the show notes.
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and
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Divorce is a... It's a shitty thing. Can be a scary thing. Don't do it alone. Because it is a shit storm. And it's better to go through a shit storm with a strong umbrella. Yes. There you have it. There you have it. I love the pugilla. This one's gonna be awesome. Yeah, man.
00:33:44
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Jimmy, we really enjoyed it, man. Thanks again. Thanks for having me on. You bet. That's a wrap. Thank you for listening to The Sovereign Man podcast. If you're ready to take charge of your life and become the man you've always wanted to be, we invite you to join the movement at sovereignman.ca.