Reggie's Vision and Podcast Introduction
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As a child who lacked confidence, that was full of self-doubt all the way until I literally was probably like in my mid-20s. And at the same time, I always had a vision of seeing myself doing something amazing and big.
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And it wasn't until I went to college that i began to have an awareness of who I was and the things that I wanted to do in life. Welcome to Vulnerability Muscle, the inspiring podcast challenging norms and helping you redefine vulnerability as a strength.
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I'm your host, Reggie D. Ford. Each episode of Vulnerability Muscle dives into a variety of topics such as mental health, social issues, and mindset shifts.
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We explore the power of vulnerability and fostering meaningful connections.
Introducing Dr. Janee Mobley and Her Story
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healing, building resilience, and promoting personal growth. Sometimes these conversations are uncomfortable, but good workouts often are.
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So join us and flex that vulnerability muscle. Welcome to this episode of Vulnerability Muscle. I'm your host, Reggie D. Ford. Vulnerability muscle is all about redefining vulnerability as a strength that helps us connect, that helps us heal, that helps us grow.
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Today, I have an amazing guest with me, Dr. Janee Mobley. Dr. Janee is a wife, a mom, a mentor, a pharmacist, speaker, and coach whose passion is to help women profit from their purpose and overcome mindsets that prevent profit, progress, and prosperity. Come on, y'all, let's go.
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oh man. After facing homelessness with a doctorate degree, and financial hardship, Dr. Janine has dedicated her life to helping women discover their purpose, achieve personal success, and eliminate the mindset of self-doubt, low self-esteem, and self-sabotage. Oh my goodness. I am so excited for this. Yes. Give it up.
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Dr. Janine, welcome. Welcome. Thank you for having me, Reggie. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. It's enough it's one thing To, you know, you have like ever have like of those, I guess they say outer body experiences.
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And it's like it's one thing when you're typing it up, doing the work. And it's another thing when you hear what your accomplishments are and what you're doing. And it's amazing. Yes, because you are. You are that. Let's go.
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Oh, wow. Thanks for giving me. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for the honor
Overcoming Self-Doubt and Personal Growth
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and the time. I just, I think this conversation is going help a lot of people, ah women in particular, but I think a lot of men are going to gain from this as well.
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And I'm like a person who deals with self-doubt, self-limiting beliefs, who's, I can now, because I have a little bit more awareness, identify these self-sabotaging behaviors. I'm like, I just talked myself out at $10,000. Like, why did do that? Like,
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like And so, like, I am so excited to hear about the work that you do. But before we get into that, I got three questions in this segment I call What Comes to Mind.
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Okay. So the first thing you can think of. Yeah. So the first one, what comes to mind when you hear the word vulnerability? oh Oh, trust.
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Mm-hmm. Trust. Yeah. I love that. Yes. And you need safety to build trust, to be vulnerable. So I love that. What do you do to center yourself when you're feeling stressed, overwhelmed, maybe even depressed?
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One of the things that, i and literally I'm glad that you asked me this question, this time of season is one of my favorite times of the year. I remember, um just quick story, in 2020, we were sheltered in, all of us were sheltered in place and my husband was still able to work outside of the house, but I was at home working a full-time job with two children under the age of six and pregnant and expecting another one.
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So 24 hours a day, seven days a week, I was at home with amazing children. Yeah. Another human being. And that day, to this day, i literally walk outside and enjoy the things that I like to say i have taken so much for granted.
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The beautiful trees, the flowers that are blooming, the wind. I just stop at times and just allow it to hit my face. And it just calms me every single time.
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yeah. I know there was a whole lot, but. No, I love that. Because because that that sensory experience is something that you're able to describe
Cherished Childhood Memories and Their Impact
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in that trust, in that safety. But some people who have not given themselves or not had the opportunity to feel safe outside, to feel, to have the awareness of what it feels like to have the skin beaming down um or the sun beaming down on my skin, to have the wind blowing against my face. Like, oh, yes. Thank you for that. That's so good.
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What is a favorite childhood memory of yours? oh um I am from Miami, but my dad was a country boy and he lived, he was from West Point, Mississippi.
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And we used to travel from South Florida all the way to West Point, Mississippi. And we're talking about probably 16 hours.
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So my sister and I would sit in the back seat of his white, what they used to call, and I'm telling my age here, but I do not care. Or Stankin' Lincoln. It was a Lincoln town car, one of those box old ones.
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And we would travel and we would play in the back and we would play Chinese checkers. And it was just amazing. And we would literally turn around in the backseat and get the semi truck drivers to pull their car. Oh, yes. Like, yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, that's so good. So I love that because my grandfather was a truck driver and I got to experience a couple of summers with him where I went on the road and and you always see it. Like you look over and kids are just pumping their fish. Like they pumping. and And like he would always, he had he had like three horns, like there's multiple horns in there.
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And he would do the regular horn. I'm like, no, they want the they want the the big one. They want the they wouldn't hear that thing. And so, no, I love that. That's such a beautiful memory. Thank you for sharing that with me. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
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Yeah. I want to hear about the journey. I want to hear, you know, you, ah your bio is amazing and phenomenal. And to talk about, you know, your, your life prior to becoming Dr. Janine, like what, what is, what would that look like?
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um Well, the doctor part, as you shared, came from the doctorate of pharmacy and my journey. Do you want to hear about the journey to entrepreneurship or the journey to evolving to be the woman I am today? Oh, I like that ladder. The second one. yeah yeah Yeah.
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So just to give you a condensed but detailed story, I grew up um as a child who lacked confidence that was full of self-doubt all the way until I literally was probably like in my mid twenty s And at the same time, I always had a vision of seeing myself doing something amazing and big.
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And it wasn't until I went to college that I began to have an awareness of who I was and the things that I wanted to do in life. So I finished pharmacy school. And the amazing thing was I graduated. Kudos to me with this doctorate degree, able to make six figures, foot out the door at the age of 24. Let's go.
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At the same time, I got my first job and I felt so unfulfilled. I felt like, what in the ham sandwich did I sign up for? And I literally, in it in truth moment, I got myself fired from that job.
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Why? Because it wasn't my passion. It wasn't what I was supposed to be doing. So as a result, I didn't give it my all. Mm-hmm. Fast forward to that date. um I literally began a quest to try to figure out what is it that I'm called and created to do? And I have a relationship. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ.
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And I literally, there are moments that I have where I do not believe in complaining about something that I'm not willing to change. And um fast forward to how we got homeless, which ended up being the pivotal point. I was working on a job, got fired again, which is literally a telltale sign.
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And at that moment, I said, never again will I ever allow someone to dictate my income. And I realized, I said, okay, if I serve a God whose word tells me that he's given me the power to obtain wealth, then surely I have a gift to be able to serve the world to build wealth.
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And um I literally began working on me before I started building a business at that time. And duke through homelessness, I literally went to library because I couldn't afford to buy book. Yeah.
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excuse me And I started checking out books, checking out books. Every time I finished a book, I would take it back and check out another book, check out another book, check out another book. And I did deeper work on myself.
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And I said, you know what? One thing that I always have loved to do is empower people. Yeah. And because I was in a place of, and I'm, and it's, I love the name of your podcast and the fact that you are, and this is just kudos to you as being a gentleman.
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who you don't, it's sad, but many of us are not aware of men willing to be vulnerable yeah with themselves or anybody else.
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yeah So I love what you do. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Thank you. Thank you. You know what? I've connected with my purpose and am destined to help other women realize that you don't have to just work a job to take care of your household. You can use your skills, your gifts to build wealth.
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Yeah, and that's beautiful. That is so beautiful. There's so many parts of of your story that I want to touch on. And I think part of one of the things that stood out to me was how you said like you had this what looked like success of a career, success of a job when you first got out there, but you were unfulfilled inside.
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Can you speak to that? Like, what did that feel like? Like, what what were you thinking in the morning when you went to work? What were those thoughts? Oh, I'm so glad you asked that question because you know, it's lot of people who just don't tell the truth about those moments.
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So literally I was excited about Friday because I knew, because I worked Monday through Friday and I was excited about Friday at the time. And I was working for the VA at the time. and And for people like the government at that time um was like the place for pharmacists to work. Because if you go to your neighborhood,
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pharmacies, they're working like to dark 30. And it was the dream job for most people. But I would literally enjoy Friday coming up and literally was like a heavy cloud over my head on Sundays.
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And I was just like, I felt like unfulfilled I was I was frustrated i was aggravated and literally I would go there and not want to do the work that I was hired to do yeah so and that you trained so hard to get to play yeah that part but here's the thing the um most amazing part of being a pharmacist that I absolutely loved was teaching that's that's powerful So it's no wonder that I love coaching. It's no wonder that I love speaking because I am a teacher. Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, wow. See, I think we we've conditioned our society to expect and accept those Sunday night scaries. And I think for people who have done what you've done and gone out and and changed what that looks like for you, who start businesses or who enjoy the work that they're doing, like those Sunday night scaries, they they are not always there.
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Like, i I don't feel the same way. Like, I am an entrepreneur through and through. I don't know if I will ever not be. And my Sunday nights do not feel like they used to when I was working in offices. And it just...
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It's a beautiful feeling. It's an absolute beautiful feeling to know that that anxiety, that fear, that stress, that all of that. like you want to You say you get in the bed at 830 and you up at 11 mad because you got to go in the next morning
Building Resilience Through Personal Trials
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early. like All of that, right? That doesn't have to be the case. I'm curious, was experience like?
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what was the the what was the experience like when you found out that homelessness was going to be a part of your story? Like the the from from having a home to not, and then what does that experience look like? Because it's different for everyone, right?
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um At the time, and it it's it's crazy because even when I rewind and I think about it, i i don't think I'm a control freak. I like to control as much and um of my environment as possible.
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So when I came home and I told my husband I was fired from my job and things would be shifting, I told him, I said, you know what? Because he was working at the time, but our salaries alone, well, his salary alone at the time, we needed to work together financially, basically.
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Yeah. And I told him, I said, we need to evict our ourselves. Okay. Wow. it wasn't, I didn't, and i don't even think I was worried about being homeless. I thought about that. I was more concerned of somebody putting a white slip on my door and people walking by and seeing it. And I don't have any control over the time that I'm able to pack up peacefully and get out of here.
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So for me, I was, I would began to consider what this was going to look like if I just sat there. Right. In the meantime, I'm not going to lie. I started, you know, doing as much as I could to make money. But when I realized it wasn't going to be a sufficient amount of time, I made the decision. I was just like, OK, babe, we need to evict ourselves.
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hmm. And the the piece in that is that I didn't have to go through the sheriff knocking on my door. The piece in that is I was able to go to our property manager and say, hey, this is the situation I'm going to have to break the lease. I was able to communicate that and I was able we were able to maintain our integrity.
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So it gave me that level of confidence. Now, couple of months later throughout, it was ah very uncomfortable because we were staying with my sister-in-law, her two children, my mother-in-law in a two bedroom duplex sleeping. And my husband and i were literally sleeping on the floor on a mattress.
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So it was uncomfortable. However, I've been one that has always trained and been personally and focused on personal development. Yeah. Even that's why it occurred to me. I said, I got to get to a library. I got to get I got to pour into myself. I was very aware of who I surrounded myself with. So to be honest, it wasn't as daunting as it could have been.
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Yeah. Yeah. that We had to sleep in a car overnight. Right. It wasn't as daunting as it could have been, if that makes any sense. Yeah. No, I think that that speaks to a lot of different things. One, just your drive.
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your drive of of knowing that to to say we have to evict ourselves, I think takes so much wisdom and courage and bravery to know that like, we're going to be all right, but we got to get our ducks in a row so that we we stay all right. And to be able to sustain what's all right, to knowing that you have supportive people in your life that you could go sleep under a roof as opposed to under a bridge. And like, I think there's so many beautiful parts of that story. And then you continuing to develop yourself You said earlier where ah you you started to to look at yourself and understand things about yourself while you were at the library and things.
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What did that self-discovery look like? what And what did you find out about you that now helps you with the work that you do? Oh, wow. um I developed a spirit of resilience that I didn't have before going through the trial that I went through.
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A lot of the times... and I can definitely speak from experience. Change is very uncomfortable. However, I've learned even in that experience, when you yield to it and you're vulnerable to the change, right?
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It gives you the opportunity to explore the lessons that needed to be learned along the way. Which ultimately builds your character, which ultimately builds your strength physical mentally as well as physically, mentally, and spiritually.
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So when i'm when I encounter women who are resistant, who aren't willing to be vulnerable... who feel shame, who feel self-doubt. I'm able to speak from a place passionately from experience because I've already lived it in some capacity. It may not be the exact situation.
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However, I'm able to relate more because of that tribulation. Dang, that's so good. That's so good. like I think there is such...
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such a need and desire for, for relatability. I guess one thing to have a person, a coach, a teacher, a mentor who's up here that has, is telling you to do all these different things. And it's like, but you don't understand what my mind's thinking. you don't understand where I've been at. You don't understand my past. You don't understand those things from a lived experience.
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So you telling me this, it's hard to, to relate on that, but for you to have that experience, and help women get through that mindset is is beautiful. can you Can you speak more to to that work? So like you you established the Success and Wealth Institute.
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What motivated you to do that and what work do you do there?
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um Well, that's literally my coaching and speaking and um writing umbrella. So would put this house under um that particular brand.
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um But though the success and wealth, how did that even come? That's the first time anybody has asked me that question. So I wrote a book literally when we were coming out of homelessness, like That's why I realized that I didn't realize just how much I built before I got to that point and able to make some changes and do some things.
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But I literally, because during homeless, we found out I was pregnant with our first son. So it's pregnant. Yeah. All of that. And i remember I told myself, I said, women are usually given six to eight weeks for before they are charged to go back to work.
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So I said, I'm gonna give myself six to eight weeks and then I'm going to commit to writing a book. Now, mind you, I had never written a book ever before in my life. Wow. So I literally got, you know, those paper folders that have the three prongs. Yeah.
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Notebook paper. Cause I ain't taking a class about writing a book. I said, not going to overthink this. Like we don't eliminate all excuses. Right. And we had our son on a schedule. So my husband would go to sleep. Our son would sleep and I would stay up and I committed to writing for 15 minutes.
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Nice. Right. ring And ah again, even as I think about that, Reggie, all everything that I encounter, all of that work that I put into myself literally landed me to a place that I was able to write in one of the most challenging places in my life.
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But it goes back to that's where the success part is. A lot of people feel like, oh, you have to accomplish all of this stuff to be successful. First of all, success is personal.
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yeah So you identify, and this is my belief, what success is to you. Facts. The wealth part is the wealth. Again, he gives us the power to obtain wealth.
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So how was I able to write a book when we was trying to figure out how to pay bills after we moved into a new house? I realized I had an idea. i took the idea and took action on the idea and marketed the idea. Surely I was going to make some money. Wow.
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Wow. Wow. And the rest is history. Look at that. like ah and so I love what you said about like committing to just 15 minutes of writing.
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Because I think we overcomplicate some of the the most basic things of commitment, of consistency, of discipline, and doing that on a regular basis and making that a non-negotiable to reach a goal that we set for ourselves.
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You gave yourself that time and you said, this is what I'm going to do. And so I i know it just because I've written a book, too. Like you sat down for 15 minutes and that day is like I got juice and I'm going to go. And it may be hours later. You're like, look at all this that I've written.
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But then again, you come back to the 15 minutes. If that's all I got for that day, that's all I got for that day. I think that is so, so powerful for people to understand. You got to inertia, like being stuck is, is hard to overcome and you have to get that ball rolling in some way. And it has to be, it's a lot of times it's like Atomic Habits. I love that book.
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It's the small things. It's 15 minutes. It's the five seconds if it if that's what it needs to be. So I love that. Thanks. Thanks.
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You, ah I mean, a lot of determination in your story. A lot of like, I mean, to make it to be a doctor, you said the resilient mindset what wasn't there, but to make to make it to be a doctor and pharmacist, like you had that resilient mindset in you and it may not have been showing up in different moments, but But where does that come from? Like, where were who were the influences in your life? Who motivated you or what motivated you during those early periods of life?
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um The first I'll tell you story that comes to mind. So I'll tell you a story that helped me out with resilience and then a person. So at a very young age, I saw a lot of death.
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What do I mean? i had uncle passed away. I had uncles. I had a grandfather, like all before I even became an adolescent, like people were just dying. Right. But the biggest death and loss that I experienced was the death of my father.
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I was a big daddy's girl. So at the age of 15, my father passed away due to cancer. And I'll never forget. i too I was trying out to be a majorette in high school and um up until the days that he was passing away. And we knew that he had cancer.
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And the crazy thing is um I had a vision of him dying and it was the, it freaked me out as a teenager, but didn't give it too much, you know, thought or anything like that.
Early Influences and Resilience Building
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And Yeah. And I remember when my mother told me, because my mom was kind of like the opposite of my dad. My dad would baby me. My mama was like, OK, you're going to get me.
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Look, you I'm not into the baby stuff. My mom nurtured me. But my dad was the type of person, even as a teenager, I would sit on his lap. He would a huge daddy's girl. Wow. The loss was very major for me. So I had to literally transition quickly because my mama wasn't going to give me that same attention that my father did.
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And the day of his funeral was the day of our majorette tryouts. And i don't know what in me, but I made a decision that I was going to try out.
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So after his funeral, I literally left, had somebody drive me to tryouts. And I believe it was during that moment and point that a ah spirit of resilience really increased in me.
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And my mom watching her have to deal with the death of her mother nine months prior and bury her husband was it it just it it was something the experiences that i had and just seeing her go through that yeah i had a push like nothing else afterwards because i knew life wasn't going to be the same and to make a decision So it's amazing that you're asking these questions because now I'm getting ah even a better understanding of even where a lot of my resiliency has it started out very young.
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Well, I'm sorry to hear about the the many deaths, the multitude of deaths and the death of your father. like no hearing that just like i like Hearing that you were so close and that you know you you he nurtured you in that way and babied you in that way, I think like We need more of that. We need more of that in our lives where men, like, I mean, that's a vulnerable expression.
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I'm reading the myth of normal right now. And it and it said to care is to be vulnerable. It's a vulnerable emotion. Like if I care about something, because that opens me up to being hurt. If I care, that means that opens me up to be hurt about something. But that's okay because we know what comes with caring. And there's a lot of good that comes with that.
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And I know that there is a lot of pain that came with the with the loss of your
Empowering Women Through Personal Stories
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father. And so I extend my condolences because those things that those things are important and and significant in our lives.
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thing And to be able to identify like a moment of of recognizing where resilience really started to to be one modeled by mom and then displayed by you is amazing. Did you make the tryout? Did you make it?
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I didn't. You did? No. What was that? What did that feel like? Oof. Honestly, was I disappointed? Here's the truth. I was more proud of the fact that I showed up because I had every reason not to. Because she was like, are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure? I was like, i was no I was so sure at that moment that I needed to do that.
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And I was so proud of myself that I showed up. Yes, I'm proud of you too. Ah, showing up, showing up. Let's talk about abouter your your book, your coaching, your business world and how you show up for other people, right? You've shown up, like you you bear your soul, you're vulnerable in your work and you use that to help other people.
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what are What are the idea or what are the i guess yeah ideal candidates or clients that you work with and what are they coming to you for? What what kind of services are they coming to you for?
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Initially, I started out as a life coach and I realized that sometimes you know God will give you signs when it's time to to shift. But a lot of the clients that I started working with were either entrepreneurs or those who desire to.
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So they're women, um they're working full-time jobs and or they either desire to start a business or currently have a business. And the amazing thing is I've worked on the extreme end. I've worked with women who are very successful in entrepreneurship. However, their personal life is just jacked up.
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And when I say that, I mean, emotionally, they're not vulnerable. They're very hard. And their work, here's the thing, I always realized that regardless of the level that we have acquired of success, there's always an even greater level once we overcome the conversations in our mind, right?
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So she is a woman who has experienced and is experiencing self-doubt, a lack of confidence, And really knows that there is some area of her life that she has yet to explore that's inhibiting her from infiltrating the level that she knows that she's supposed to infiltrate.
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So we work together. It's literally in a program and I so support them because I'll be honest in total transparency, And a lot of people don't say this. And this is of the reasons, I guess that's the vulnerability muscle.
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Let's go. Flex that. Full-time job while building my business. Why?
Balancing Financial Stability and Business Growth
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Because there's a certain lifestyle that I desire to maintain while building my business. Yeah. And this is just me. Everybody's journey is different. And this is another way that I am relatable to my clients because it's hard to build anything when you're trying to figure out how you're going to stop them from collecting your vehicle. Yep.
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from collecting on money you owe. So she works a full-time job, whether in corporate America or healthcare, and she's really, really ready to take the idea that she's had on the shelf of her mind and really implement it and push past those negative thoughts, those self-limiting beliefs, that fear, that lack of confidence, not feeling good enough, that imposter syndrome, and ready to take it to the next level.
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Let's go. Let's go. I love that. Y'all heard it. Women, like if you're out there and you felt like she was speaking to you, then you need to speak to her.
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Holler at Dr. Janine. Like that is as powerful. And i I can think of so many people like that. I can think of so many people because it's not it's not.
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Like if you think about being a woman or being ah ah a woman of color, even a black woman, like the world is sending us signals that we are somehow not enough, that we should somehow doubt ourselves because of this, this, this and that.
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And it's like, we can stop that at the door and say, nope, that's bullshit. You're not going to let that infiltrate my mind. And I'm going to rewrite all of these different narratives that my mind has has taught me about who I am.
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And I'm going to stand in my power and I'm going to go out and I'm going to accomplish all those things. The vision that I see, I'm going to make it a reality. And I think that's so beautiful. And I love your vulnerability and saying, you know, like I'm i'm still working while building my business. And I think that's a a myth of entrepreneurship is that you don't do that. Like I like there you have to have funds. You have to have security. You have to have peace of mind knowing that bills are going to get paid or else you go into this tunnel vision mode and tunnel vision blocks opportunities.
Mindset Transformation and Coaching Approach
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Ton of vision makes you do things that may be out of your character because I need that next dollar. And like, and it's like, no, like do what fits your path and your journey. And so i love that that is a part of your story and the story of the women that you are helping.
00:30:39
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I love that. Yeah. What is, what is your, what is your coaching style look like? What do, what can people expect? Like, are are they, is it hands on? Is it exercises or is it all talking? Like, what does that look like if you've never done coaching before?
00:30:56
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I am, well, my coaching style is really based off of implementation. Like how many of us have been gone to conferences, conventions, workshops, and so forth. And then you leave with all this content and you have no implementation, like zero.
00:31:13
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Okay. You're excited. You fired up only to go home and just kind of look around. Like, what am I doing? So I focus a lot on implementation.
00:31:25
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and i'm ah and And I say this simply, I'm a very simple implementer. Very, very simple because I understand that a confused mind will do absolutely nothing. So I first, because I have a systematic five step approach that I use in helping them to go from mindset to movement and literally taking that idea off of the shelf of their mind and implementing it without excuses and eliminating all excuses, excuse me.
00:31:53
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So literally when we focus on the first area I focus on is mindset, because I believe that if you can't believe you can do something, you just won't do it. Right.
00:32:04
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It's like, yeah it's like the old adage, those who think they can and those who think they can't. All right. Exactly. So mindset is one of the biggest areas that I work on throughout, but we spend time the most on.
00:32:17
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Because, I mean, let's face it, a lot of us know and understand at this point what marketing is and that we have to basically get our brands out there, even if you just mess it up at the beginning. But people allow the fear of or the self-doubt of or the opinions of to prevent them from doing the very thing to get their out their idea out there on the market.
00:32:38
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Yes. Right. So that first the first couple of um the first two sessions, we focus on mindset and then it's more so is very engaging.
00:32:49
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So I give content. We have Q&A and discussion. The reason why i say Q&A and discussion is because a lot of the times people don't know what they don't know. Right.
00:33:00
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And I'm one of those. I am whenever I interact with people, whether virtually, especially if I can see your face. Right. and the And hear the tone of your voice. Well, I can pick up when there is ah gap.
00:33:15
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when there's a lack of understanding or when you aren't really showing up as a coach, I'm going to call you out on it lovingly and politely. But my goal is to get you to rise to the occasion, right? I've never played a sport in my life, but one thing I understand about every coach who's coaching someone in a sport, their goal is to ensure that their team or the person that they're coaching wins, whatever the game or whatever the sport is.
00:33:41
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yeah So if they got the, Whatever they got to do to corral you, that's what they do. So I'm very, very big on connecting with my clients and identifying what their hindrances and challenges are.
00:33:54
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So I focus a lot on gathering the data to see what are the stumbling blocks. Hmm. Right. um With that mindset, because marketing is marketing, that's concrete.
00:34:05
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But when you're dealing with people with personal issues, you have to find a way of connecting with them on their level to get them to the place that they need to be. Right.
00:34:16
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So we focus on mindset. I focus on their message and so forth. And then we go from there. But mindset is the biggest, yeah the biggest piece. Oh, my gosh. Yes. Yes.
00:34:27
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I want to come back to the the five steps. But before that, with the mindset, what are some of the common roadblocks that people are saying or some of the self-limiting beliefs that you hear probably more frequently than others?
00:34:42
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The biggest one is fear. And we know under fear, there a plethora of the types of fears. The fear failure, the fear of rejection, the fear of success, right? The the fear of the opinions. Speak to that.
00:34:55
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Speak to the fear of success. Oh, gosh. So what is the fear of success? Like we sit in, we say, OK, we want to make all of this money. We want all of these accolades. However, when it comes, there's a ah or even before it comes, there is intimidation of what that's going to look like.
00:35:12
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So for somebody, you may be the first in your family to succeed at anything. So how are they going to feel because I'm making all of this money? Are they going to call me and ask me for money to take care of them?
00:35:28
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And because I feel obligated, am I going to go broke because I feel obligated to take care of them? Mm-hmm. That's so real. i I have ah a mentor and a friend who ah was a very great football player.
00:35:45
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And he knew he was great. I think as a freshman, he was a starting quarterback for a powerhouse team. And he he scored this big touchdown to win the game against a rival. And he remembers like you know crossing that pylon as he was getting tackled.
00:36:01
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And the crowd went crazy. And he, in that moment, was like, holy shit, I got to live up to this every day of my life from here on out.
00:36:11
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And like ended up playing in the NFL, all of these different things, great great career, but carried that weight of those expectations forever. When the passion didn't meet that expectation, when the when when he wasn't feeling it, he still had to carry that. And I think that is a part of the fear of success that we have. and And I think about it even...
00:36:33
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Sometimes um I will. Well, I try not to do this now because I have awareness around it. But when I look back at different periods of life, it was a moment right there is a a big game. There's a big talk. There's a big something big that's going to come. And it's pivotal.
00:36:48
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It can it can take you to the moon or you can still stay where you're at. And the preparation in that, I'm like, I'm a wait, I'm a procrastinate, I'm gonna do this. And then I put together some and it's nice, but I know in my heart, I could have put together something 10 times better.
00:37:06
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But I self sabotaged in that way of procrastination or in that way of not giving it my all in the preparation phase. So it is real. The fear of success is real. And being able to identify like, yeah, we're afraid to fail. It makes sense, right? We are afraid to not accomplish the goal.
00:37:22
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But we are also sometimes afraid of all of those things that come after we succeed. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's get back to the the five steps. Can you can you list them out, how how you address them?
00:37:36
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And just so that people understand what that looks like. So I believe that there are five areas that we must master in order for us to implement our ideas successfully.
00:37:46
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Right. So the first one is mindset, obviously, because we understand that the position and wish it, and I love breaking this down because it's exciting. Right. So mindset we know is a compound word. We have mind and and then we have set.
00:38:00
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So when you bring the two together, when you think about them individually, excuse me, set is the position or the place or your mind is your way of thinking. It houses your beliefs and so forth.
00:38:11
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So the difference between people don't realize the only difference between people who are successful and those who are unsuccessful, those who are are in lack and those who are in poverty is the positioning of their belief system and their thinking.
00:38:24
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Mm-hmm. Here's the thing. People are chasing money, but all you have to do is change your position of your thinking and your belief system. Right? So you've got to have the right mindset. You have to, because here's the thing.
00:38:37
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Even when somebody rejects you and says, no, you understand that what I have is valuable. You understand that my that the solution that I have is what the marketplace needs. This may not just be my ideal client. And guess what? That's okay.
00:38:50
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Mm-hmm. You see what I'm saying? And you have the resilience to get back up and keep going, right? And even with the fear of success, you understand the way that that is overcame is that I don't ever have to live up to anybody else's standards or even even the the self-sabotaging standards that you have set for yourself.
00:39:10
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Your goal is to continue to reach higher. If you miss it, understand that it's just a lesson learned. Yes. Right? That's why our environments are so important.
Balancing Personal and Professional Life
00:39:20
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Next is the mindset of management, right?
00:39:23
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You cannot, and a lot of times people, when you say management, they think about corralling a team. Yes, you need corral a corrraella team and lead a team in order to implement the idea and make sure that it's effective. But before you can lead other people, you got to manage yourself.
00:39:36
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Thanks. Let's go. Yeah.
00:39:40
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Right. You got to have all that together. So self-management is huge, right? The next is mastery. Here's the thing. You got to master your craft.
00:39:53
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The reason why the brand McDonald's has been around for as long as it has is that they've mastered their craft. They mastered it.
00:40:06
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Same thing with all of the other brands. They've mastered it. It's always top of mind is what my first business coach said. So we have the mind, we have mindset, we have self-management, and then we have mastery. Next is marketing.
00:40:19
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yeah Right? Right. So here's, no, before that, it's actually six, but anyway, I'll just go over first. Give us the extra six. I like action. Yeah. My first coach, Danielle A. Jervie, an amazing woman, Danielle A. Jervie Harmon, she said, you can have the best idea since Pockets, but if nobody knows about it, it matters not. And she was lying.
00:40:39
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Yep. Right? So true. it And next is your message. What are you communicating with people? Right. Everyone, especially in the social media world, everybody has a message, whether they realize that they're delivering one or not. Yes.
00:40:55
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Our message is the way that we effectively communicate with them. And then once you have your message, your goal is to create a movement that people will want to follow and say, hey, I want to jump on this man, right? And they, whatever it is, right?
00:41:09
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So those are the, those are those, I love that. I love a them. Hey, them M's to get to the M's. Let's go. I love that. I love that.
00:41:20
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and And what you said about about the message, and and and this is something about brand, like your personal brand, like people people think because they're not a business that they don't have a brand. But you do. Everybody has a brand and your brand is how the world is perceiving you, how you show up into the world.
00:41:36
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ah Well, brand reputation but being perceived and things like that. But you have brand and reputation based off of how you're presenting yourself. And i had a ah in business school, I had a um professor or program director who always used to say, like, you're always interviewing.
00:41:53
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Right. Because these professors are coming in they own businesses or they know people. You got classmates who are going to be running business. You got like all these. You're always interviewing. and And so in the same breath, like like if you have a business, your business, whether it's how you show up to a meeting or not show up or show up late, whether it's how you dress, whether it's how you talk, you're always presenting your brand and your message. And so.
00:42:19
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I love that. I love those M's. Can you repeat them for us so we can, and somebody's taking notes out there going to reach out to you. So it's mindset, mastery, message, movement, marketing.
00:42:31
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Mm-hmm. I love it. I love it so much. Can you give us ah for your yourself personally, because you're you do a lot, right? How do you juggle all the responsibilities of being that mom, of being the the entrepreneur, the author, the speaker, all of those things and your self-care? How do you balance that and what do you do for your own self-care?
00:42:53
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Oh, gosh. i'm Again, I'm a simple coach and I'm simple at heart as a person. So it doesn't take much. ah Taking those moments out of the day to just be what I like to call my first name.
00:43:08
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not missus not mommy not strategist not coach just jenny so i walk outside i just take like literally this time of year it's my favorite time of year yeah no favorite i literally love to look at the flowers that's my self-care like i love to see the flowers bloom And I ex exercise.
00:43:32
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Now, exercise has its physical benefits. But for me, it is the greatest mental and spiritual pill. Yes. Like people don't realize. Yes.
00:43:45
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oh Once you shift your perspective about working out and you realize just how amazing you feel afterwards, I'm one those, I can go to sleep after a workout because it's just that relaxed.
00:43:56
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Yeah. Oh, that's good. That's so good. it's just so clear Yeah. I love giving people just different tips and tools of what they can do. Cause you know, not everybody comes from an environment or understands the benefits of, or how it presents for them. And like, so like to, to know like something as simple as going out and and staring at the flowers and truly embracing the beauty of a flower.
00:44:21
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Like, i I'm with you on that. Like I can i can be in nature and and just zone out and it'd be the most peaceful thing that I've experienced. So I love that. Thank you for that.
00:44:32
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Oh, you're welcome. Yeah. I want to ask about some of the, the satisfaction that you get from from your job now and some of the the success stories. Can you talk to like, when you speak about it, you you're so passionate. It comes through.
00:44:49
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And i think that that is beautiful because I know some of us are in jobs where like, yeah, I do this and i do that. And like, On Monday to Friday, that's what I'm doing. But like, but when you speak, there's so much passion behind it.
00:45:02
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What are some of the the the success stories from the work that you do? Well, I teach. I am as a job for career. So I teach in terms of I prepare students to become pharmacy technicians. Again, I'm still in alignment with my purpose. That was ah great gift. Let's go.
00:45:21
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Right. And the greatest satisfaction is being able to not teach them academically, but to provide them with strategies to be able to show up for themselves.
00:45:33
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Because one of the things that I always tell my students is that I cannot expect for you to perform academically when your personal life is jacked up. Say that again. Say that again. Say that again. Because educators, listen, please, please.
00:45:49
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Right. You cannot expect to a person to perform academically when their personal life is jacked up, like a true telltale of where like prime example, I had a student and I knew again, I pick up on, and maybe that's just me gifted, but, and I, and the fact that I genuinely care,
00:46:10
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And I do it the same way with my clients. I'm aware, even if I can't see you, I can hear. Right. So I can tell when something is off about you mentally and emotionally.
00:46:21
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Right. So I connected with the student, found out and realized that the student had anxiety. Right. So severe anxiety and they were dealing with personal issues. Hence, how are you going to show up in the classroom?
00:46:34
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Mm hmm. Right. So the greatest satisfaction i get out of my work is being able to teach again, still doing what I'm gifted to do, even at a job.
Vulnerability as a Superpower
00:46:46
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And that's what makes it easy to go to. That's what makes it easy to show up for. Right. In a sense, I'm still kind of doing the same thing because I coach my students.
00:46:57
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Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I'm sure you coach a lot of people in your life. And yeah, Sometimes you're like, all right, how much I'm getting paid for this text message? It took me how long to craft? Yep.
00:47:09
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ah have my Oh my God. I'm so thankful for you. And I know that so many people are thankful for you and the work that you do, the person that you are, just, just Janine.
00:47:20
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before like before it all before all the titles oh that was so beautiful I'm gonna listen to this again and that's gonna still stand out because we get so attached to all of the different roles that we play all of the status all of this all of that and I have a talk where it's about grief and I ask the question like who are you when all of those things get stripped away like who are you can you sit with that person do you love that person do you do you Do you cherish it? Yeah, it's like like that is something that I i want us all to to recognize is that me, Reggie, without any of the other stuff, I am enough.
00:48:00
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I am loved. I am worthy. And so thank you for that. That was beautiful. so I want to, before we close out, I got another segment. It's its a fill in the blank. And so again, kind of, kind of first things that come to mind, it could be a word. It could be a phrase. You can, you can tell a story, whatever it is. But um the first one is vulnerability makes me feel blank.
00:48:24
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Safe. Wow. Wow. My biggest strength or my superpower is blank. Being vulnerable. Ooh, let's go. Let's go. me tell you why.
00:48:38
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and and I know that sounds, but it's the truth. The truth will make us free. But a lie will keep me in bondage.
00:48:48
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So the more than, and it takes truth to be vulnerable. Right. So the more that I tell myself the truth and seek the truth, the more that I am able to be free.
00:49:05
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The more you live and live in a lie, the more you will be in bondage. I don't have time for it. I don't have the energy for it. And even when I say vulnerability, it's about being vulnerable, even with myself.
00:49:20
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First and foremost, people don't even, people aren't vulnerable with themselves. Facts. Right? You telling yourself a lot to the point where you don't even know what the truth really is anymore.
00:49:32
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You don't know what the truth anymore. But yes, vulnerability makes me safe and it builds my confidence because I'm able to be honest with where I am.
00:49:43
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Yes. Right. yeah wow wow wow thank you for that that that was powerful oh man if i could tell a woman struggling with self-doubt anything it would be blank
00:50:04
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truth moment you gotta know whose you are
00:50:10
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You got to know whose you are. When you know whose you are, you can be sure of who you are and the position that you stand in. Because even when self-doubt comes in, the fact that I know whose I am,
00:50:25
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Even when the doubt creeps in, the truth always awakens and reminds me of who I am.
Mentorship and Personal Growth
00:50:31
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So regardless of whether there's an opportunity at the door and I question whether I'm satisfied, I ask myself and I remind, really remind myself of who sent me.
00:50:43
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And that qualifies me every single time. a lot of the times people are in doubt because they're not sure of themselves. Again, you can't be both at the same time.
00:50:54
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Right? You either sure or you're doubtful. So you got to understand where the doubt is coming from.
00:51:03
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and get go let i I paid too much for this mic to drop it, but damn, let's go. Let's go. All right, last one. When I need inspiration, I turn to blank.
00:51:21
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The first, but I listen to him every day. So Dr. Myron Golden. go The man is gold. Yes. Like he is anointed for the appointment.
00:51:35
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um He's someone that I listen to every single day. Yeah. The the wisdom that he drops is just. Yeah. He makes you like, like he speaks to me and it's like, he's drilling a hole in my chest. I'm like, all right, I got you. You, yes, you're talking to me. I hear you and I hear you loud and clear.
00:51:55
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So he will make you, he will help you self-reflecting and and understanding a lot of those patterns in your life that are are holding you back from things that can take you to that next level and really propel you to prosperity, to profits.
Defining Success and Encouraging Action
00:52:10
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Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. When you think about it, a lot of the things that he shares, you can tell he's naturally very vulnerable. He says a lot of things that a lot of people who have achieved the level of success that he has acquired will not share. That's Facts.
00:52:27
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Yes. He shares. He shares. And like you say, speaking from a place of I don't experience this. i've i've I've made that mistake. I know. But he has so much wisdom now with that. And it's so powerful.
00:52:40
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Yes. ah I love that. I love something that you said earlier, too, about plenty of things that you said earlier. But you said that success is personal. Right. Success is a relative term that is only can be defined by us.
00:52:57
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We can define what success looks like for our own lives. And so if you are chasing success and it's just this this category of something and you don't know what that truly is I challenge you to define what success is in your life. What does it look like holistically? What does it look like financially in my relationships?
00:53:16
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and my but What fun I have? All the different parts of success that you can think about. like It's not just go out and make a lot of money because you can go out and make a lot of money and be miserable.
00:53:28
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I've seen miserable millionaires and a couple brokenhearted billionaires, and I don't want that for anybody. So how are you defining success that encompasses your entire well-being?
00:53:39
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I love that. Dr. Janine, do you have any closing thoughts, any final remarks that you want to leave the audience? One of my favorites um that I like to close with whenever I'm being interviewed on podcasts or even when I'm on YouTube going live.
00:53:55
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um Reggie and I shared some amazing nuggets. The simple coach in me is saying, identify the one thing that you're going to choose to implement and do it.
00:54:07
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Don't be information station, right? Take the information, take one thing. I don't care if it was one of the five. I don't care what it is that we have said, identify the one thing that you say, you know what? I'm going to take this and I'm going to take action on it.
00:54:26
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Whether it's working on me, whether it's applying it to my business, whatever it is. You mentioned something about grief what that was amazing and powerful. What can I take? That one thing, not the whole list, but that one thing that I can implement.
00:54:39
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I love that. I love that. How can people contact you if they want to work with you? If they want to say thank you for this message, how can they reach you? um Oh, gosh. you'll It'll be in the show notes, right? Absolutely.
00:54:50
Speaker
Okay. So I am on YouTube as Dr. Janine Mobley, as you see it there. I'm also on Instagram as Dr. Janine Mobley. I don't even know if many people even go on Facebook anymore, but I am.
00:55:01
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Yeah. I am on Facebook. um Also in the show notes, I'll drop the link for you all to make sure that you um get my free gift to you, which are the mindsets that um and the mistakes that women make um to prevent them, that prevent them from profiting from their purpose.
00:55:20
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And I'll make sure I'll have um my email address info at drjenie.com available for Reggie to put in the show notes. Absolutely. And this is me. Like I asked you how to pronounce your first name and didn't ask you how to pronounce your last name. And so i said Mobley and you just said Mobley. And so now I'm like, let me just go ahead. It's fine. Look, it is fine. Oh, Dr. Janine, I this has been absolutely amazing. And I thank you for all the work that you do and for the person that you are.
00:55:57
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With all the things that you could be doing and all the places you could be, I appreciate you being here with me embracing vulnerability. Thank you for having me. And thank y'all for listening. Thank you for joining us in another episode of Vulnerability Muscle.
00:56:09
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00:56:23
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00:56:39
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00:56:50
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