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Dead Rubber Granny / The Chrissy Mayne Cup! | Round 23 #PODPOD
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IT'S GRAND FINAL WEEK!!! Time to fight for glory in a battle of pure skill as the best of the best in league matchups fight it out for bragging rights. It's also time for the majority of us to pull off those final putrid trades and put this rancid season to bed! Whichever you are, we hope you've had a great season on the PODPOD.
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Goals
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome to the Point of Difference AFL fantasy podcast, a fresh perspective on AFL fantasy classic brought to you by the Kepa League pod. It's the grand final pod pod and we've got you covered for the big dance. We have Louie's best 22, our delish dozen, and we answer all your questions ahead of the last round of the 2021 fantasy footy season. Granny Pod Pod.
Reflecting on the AFL Season
00:00:39
Speaker
Welcome to the Pod Pod, it's your boy Dossie here with Louis in the same, not the ludio, what's this one? This is Dossie's Den, isn't it? Yeah, Dossie's Den. Good to be here, Dossie. I'm a little bit sad I have to front up today because I had a shocking week in AFL fantasy. I have done for the last fortnight, mate. What about you? You've only had the two weeks. It's been a full season for me, Louis, of shocking performance.
00:01:03
Speaker
That's just it. I wish I could have been let down a little bit earlier in the season because all of a sudden my league matches, draft, I haven't focused on them enough because I thought I might have been a chance for a hat. Unfortunately, it was too late when I realised I'm not getting a hat and I've pretty much bombed out of all my league matchups. Not that I could control that anyway. I've had a bit of a rotten week in terms of luck.
00:01:26
Speaker
That's pretty funny though. So you, you were just like riding high thinking you're fine in the overall ranking. So you're not caring about any of these other things. Meanwhile, I've been battling away at the other ones and I'm doing okay in a couple of drafts. So yeah, it goes to show that if you do play the league matchup, you can get wins against, you know, I haven't been putting up great scores lately, but you can really chase down some, some coaches that are performing week to week just by sort of having a look at who they've got and taking that on.
Prelim Final Impact on Rankings
00:01:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's it. And we'll talk about the round that was before we get into the big week that is the grand final week in Fantasy Footy, but we'll just reflect on what was the prelim final in a lot of leagues. And, Louis, how'd you go? You just said it was a shocker for you.
00:02:10
Speaker
Yeah absolute shocker mate. I'm pretty sure this is like round 3 type scoring. So I scored the 2072 which brought me, so two weeks ago I was ranked 392. Last week I was ranked 597 and this week I'm down at 877.
00:02:29
Speaker
So you're just clinging on as I'm trying to fight toward becoming four digit dossy as well. I might join you. Sorry, I'm five digit. I'm fine. You want the four digit, the four digit though.
Strategies for the Grand Final
00:02:44
Speaker
I am five digit dossy going for the four digit to finish the season. So you're trying to join me in that club.
00:02:49
Speaker
Well I won't mind if I do mate, it's funny I'm having more fun with fantasy this week not caring that I have the previous buddy 22 weeks so I'm getting a little bit dossy loosey at the moment. Oh I'm looking forward to your trade suggestions throughout the show then my score even though I scoffed at yours.
00:03:08
Speaker
2075 for me, mate. So pretty gross as well. Couldn't get there. You beat me by three points. Three. Three points. There you go. There you go, mate. Who's taking over Stado Senior and Stado Junior? So there we go. 2075 for the round. Pretty gross. And I want to talk about my failed-its for this week very shortly because
00:03:30
Speaker
Ah, there's one that's really, really agitating me. So I'll get to that shortly, but let's get positive first. Nailed it. Louis, who'd you get right in round 22? Look, my back was against the wall this week, Dossie, and I've had a plethora of spuds week to week, which just constantly disappoint me.
00:03:47
Speaker
So, that's what I was faced with this week, and my trade-ins were Crisp and Titch, who were both, sorry, Crisp and Zorko, who were both 106 and 122, which is nice. They both came in in the same week, averaged about 115 between them, and I just got something right, and that was nice, especially with 5-4 stouts.
00:04:08
Speaker
that's yeah that's a really nice output to get so that basically says you couldn't have done anything more than you did for the week essentially in your trades it was just the rest of your team that you were existing there that really let you down that was it so I had three other guys that unfortunately I needed to cover and I think that was James Peatling in defense Tommy Fullerton
00:04:29
Speaker
at R2 and Finn McCray at F6 there. So those guys were all right. I can't hate on them, but the three outs other than that is what hurt. But you know what? I couldn't have done more, but now the trade ins. You did well. Well, I'll just talk about my trade ins then because I did exactly the same in the sense that I got them right. I brought in, I had two outs as well, which
00:04:52
Speaker
is another recurring theme of this show in that, again, we just had to deal with late outs this week. It was Tom Stewart that I had as the bullet this week. Riley O'Brien was announced a bit earlier in the week. So I had Rob and Stewart out last week and I brought in Witherton, Alex Witherton, which was my pod pod pod.
00:05:12
Speaker
And also Josh Kelly, I had to make that decision early on the Friday night and went with it for his now to 141 with it and turned up as well. So that was a double nailed it. So there is some positivity despite our pretty low scoring round. Let's
Player Analysis: Hunter and Dunkley
00:05:26
Speaker
talk about the negative stuff here that we've got, though, Lou and found it.
00:05:32
Speaker
My fault it was Hunter again I reckon this guy's copped at a couple of different times for me but look never again list because there's no role for him anymore he's caught as a half forward then you almost think the roles change but he's just pushed up high hasn't found the footy and then he goes back to his original position.
00:05:51
Speaker
He's going 60 week to week now, and he doesn't even look like scoring a 90, I think, unless this role changes, Locky Hunter and our fantasy teams, even if he retains forward status, I just don't think I'd touch it again. It's like another Tom Phillips, isn't it?
00:06:07
Speaker
He's merged, he's formed into a Tom Phillips late in the season. It's been, yeah, a disgusting turn of events. And I think that's just given the dogs nature of their team who's been there ins and outs. It's just fluctuated his role. And I'm going to be talking about another dog in my failed it in a guy that I thought was the most genius trade I've made. He was going to, um, I was aiming to keep him in my team right till the end, which I'm going to have to do regardless. But I got him about five weeks ago, I reckon.
00:06:36
Speaker
Uber Uber Premium was the number one averaging scoring forward at one point of the season right early in the season. Josh Dunkley
00:06:45
Speaker
What has happened to dunks? It's a combination of Bevo and him himself. Just, I don't know whether it's just, he's not quite ready from coming back from that shoulder. Rico, which I can obviously forgive him for taking his time to come back from there, but I just thought if he's coming back, he's gonna be 100% right. He actually got some center bounces. He's been getting some, just has not been putting it together and he's been absolutely killing me. The first week he got,
00:07:13
Speaker
and 83 and since then it's just been absolutely putrid it's been in the 50s every single week since.
00:07:20
Speaker
Yeah, it certainly wasn't your most genius move this week, Dossie. But Josh Dunkley, and honestly, all players that are coming back from a bit of a long term injury, I think we just have to be really, really careful about, because especially in the Bulldogs midfield group, a lot of coaches didn't start Jackson McRae, for example, because they weren't sure how that was going to work. Well, how do we know how Josh Dunkley, after eight weeks off of football, is going to come back into that Dogs midfield group, which are already turning along nicely?
00:07:49
Speaker
Yeah. It's just too hard to tell. So unfortunately, it was probably the right pod move to make, but he paid way too much. I did. And I think we spoke about this pre-show and that I paid, you know, 800 K for it. And it was just because I was like, oh, my season is in dire straits regardless. I'm just going to have a bit of fun here. Go with Dunkley. If he pops.
00:08:10
Speaker
I'm a huge winner here and I have a point of difference ahead of everyone else. And if it fails, surely the worst dunks will go. He's not going back to old dunks. He's getting me 80 plus on the stretch home here and it's still a forward that's getting me 80. He's got me 180, an isolated COVID score of zero, and then he's gone 53, 58, 51 with center bounces.
00:08:31
Speaker
And the unfortunate thing for you, Dos, is I wouldn't recommend not chasing him this week because he's $638K and all of a sudden a player like that does actually start to present value. So that's what I was saying with how you paid too much then, but now you'd probably look at it. And it's quite interesting. I'm looking at his average 93 points. Maybe it's in our best interest, Dos, that he does continue playing a little bit up forward, drops another stinker.
00:09:00
Speaker
It takes that average down past 90 and we can pick up Josh Dunkley a little bit cheaper next year, a fully fit Josh Dunkley. Yeah, absolutely. Sorry, is his contract up?
00:09:11
Speaker
Yeah, I think he resigned. I think they were chasing him on the trade table. So Josh Dunkley coming out of contract next year. But now it's like, where's he going to go? The Dons have kind of found their midfield. Almost missed the chance unless, yeah, he's just got to find another midfield that's seeking an absolute gun if he gets in there. The thing is, the dogs have the room. It's just they don't want to. It's someone like a Libba would have to make way, but he's dominating. So you can't move him out.
00:09:36
Speaker
Anyway, lots to talk about there, but did you have your failed it already? Or no, you've done your Locky Hunter. I just wanted to quickly touch on, we might have some questions related to it later, but we were talking about it a lot last week in the Taranto turn of events. And I think this is worthy of a hot topic, which we do like talking about our hot topics. I just snuck this one in there. I haven't let you know about it at all.
00:10:02
Speaker
There's almost no way I'll have a trade to fix this up or even one-two against the matchup he's got this week. I reckon we were super lucky last week to get away with Timmy T still in our team, pumping out a 90. With Tim Taranto kicking four goals in the first half, I would say we were pretty bloody lucky. If you just check the score, you'd be like, oh, Timmy T, he's churning away, he's doing his normal thing.
00:10:28
Speaker
playing just full forward essentially. How's that for a flag? And it's just a massive flag. And like, if anyone does out there have a luxury trade, would you even consider it? But Toby Green back this way. Yeah. Well, Leon Cameron did say that he was going to play the Toby Green role. That's what Tim was told during the week. But I think if a coach out there somehow has the ability to be able to do that, then by all means, because we flagged it a couple of weeks ago, clearly that role
00:10:57
Speaker
has been lost to some extent. So you've got to be worried about that. Yeah. Ford status inbound for 2022 potentially. Yeah. I think I saw a fantasy free go put out a little something and I think he might've just been trying to generate a little bit of hype there. Maybe you know something.
00:11:13
Speaker
Well yeah I mean if he keeps if he's it depends if they golf you know what's projected I know they sometimes just project ahead as to what people's roles are if he gets the few games of sample size and then heading into twenty twenty two could be very juicy for next season. All right let's move on to the next hot topic and it was announced that there is no.
00:11:32
Speaker
Pre finals by coming up is this going to mean? Rest inbound this week for a couple of our absolute studs that we might have especially those veteran players Do we have to just be wary this week?
00:11:46
Speaker
Absolutely dos.
Pre-Finals Bye Speculation and Fantasy Impact
00:11:47
Speaker
And I've got a theory that a lot of the late outs that we've seen over the last couple of weeks, that's actually been because the clubs just haven't gotten any consistent messaging on whether or not this buy is happening. So they've tried to hedge their bets. You know, maybe it's three rounds before the last game of the season, they're playing Adelaide. Okay, we'll just rest one of our stars here. We'll do it as a laid out.
00:12:09
Speaker
I think that's why we've been seeing it and I think now that it's been announced that it's something to worry about massively and not just with the the really fantasy relevant teams either like it goes the other way where a team that's not going to play finals might just rest one of their good players and bring in a rookie just for the hell of it just to see how they play in that role so yeah it's something we got to keep an eye on and if you've got many Geelong players in your team
00:12:34
Speaker
Then I'd be worried tenfold because Chris Scott has shown that he's more than happy to do it and it suits his team going into finals this year particularly. So if you're an Isaac Smith owner or really just any sort of Geelongo, they're all over about the age of 31, I'd be worried. Yeah, even like a team, I don't know.
00:12:55
Speaker
I think someone like a Melbourne would want to roll into finals just there. They've been consistent all season. They'll want to just go in the way they are. They have to sort of win to secure the top spot. I think those sort of teams are safe, but yeah, I'd have to check the ladder and actually see who's secure where they are. They're the teams that are going to give it a rest. I think Sydney is a title dead rubber.
00:13:14
Speaker
I haven't seen the fixture, I know they're playing Gold Coast, but depending on when it's played during the round, I think that will be a dead rubber and obviously Adelaide and North, I think they are playing the last game. So you talk about dead rubbers and straight away you think of Aaron Hall too.
00:13:32
Speaker
It's a tough one, but it's one to look out for and one to definitely think about with your trades this week as well, so the rest potentially inbound with that no pre-finals buy.
Community Engagement and Player Picks
00:13:43
Speaker
If you have enjoyed the show this season on the Pod Pod, we're just asking that you leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. We're aiming to get 100, 100 plus ratings by the end of our first season, Louis, and we've got to thank all the listeners for sticking with us throughout this whole season.
00:14:01
Speaker
We sort of started up pretty late, this whole venture going into the pod pod, but it's been really enjoyable. We've built a nice little community out there and we just want to thank all the listeners. And if you can support us by leaving a little rating and review at the end of the season, we'd be very much appreciative of that.
00:14:17
Speaker
Absolutely guys, thank you everyone for tuning in every single week. Eventually we started to get a bit of a groove. I don't know if it was until round three that we really knew what we were doing. Yep, our mics weren't working the first week, we didn't have a proper setup, something went wrong and then yeah, it's been sort of back and forth, obviously a bit of a weird year having to record separately a lot of the time.
00:14:39
Speaker
Yeah I think it's been it's been a very enjoyable year in the end Louie and we've yeah thankful for the whole pod pod community that we've developed. They say it takes 100 podcasts to really master and I reckon you've done about 100 podcasts alone of different brand names so I don't know what's going on with you Dossi.
00:14:56
Speaker
Yeah, still yet to master it, mate. So we'll get there one day, we'll get there one day. And also just a shout out as well to our Pod Pod Plus members across season 2021. Statesman and I doing the Wednesday show, really appreciate it for everyone that's jumped on past and present. A big thanks to you, but we'll jump on now, Louie, to the next part of the show, which is Lou's Best 22.
00:15:21
Speaker
And do you want to take it away? I think we're going to go through just it's a lot of match up based stuff, I think. Bit of form, bit of match up. There's only one game left, Louis, and this is your best 22. You try targets in essentially every single position. So if you've got the coin, if you've got the the ability to get these players, this is who Louis reckons you should be bringing in.
00:15:39
Speaker
Yeah basically so I'm just chasing players that I think can discover their ceiling in the final round of the season and a lot of these guys as you would have thought are priced quite highly and that's because they're performing well and hopefully we get a few questions at the end of the pod where we can talk about some of these 600k guys that maybe suit some other people's
00:16:01
Speaker
salaries, but we'll get it started with defenders, mate. And how could you go past Aaron Hall versus Adelaide? Absolute dead rubber match. Last three, 122. Oh, mate, put the C on him. Yeah. He's going to be my captain this week. He's been my biggest miss of the year, even though I was telling pod pod listeners as well as you to jump on. I just never did. I just never managed to do it.
00:16:28
Speaker
I thought it was too late during the season at points, and it just never was too late to jump on the whole train. Isn't it insane? Because I remember we were talking round four, round five. Oh, do you do it? I think I said he was a trap. Yeah, we might have. Yeah, I was I think I was fairly high on it, given how he's been, how he's gone in the past when given a great role, he can do it. He's just a fantasy scorer. He was like that at the Gold Coast when he was put in the guts. Same deal here, but in a different position.
00:16:55
Speaker
Just regret central for me, but you've had him for a while now, haven't you? Yeah, I've had him for most of the year. So sort of when everybody jumped on him, I managed to jump on and and enjoyed all of that. But next up, we've got Callum Mills, who I'm doubling down. He's coming back into my trade targets after recommending him last week and having him be out, which was sucks. But clearly he's being managed. And Horst Longmuir has said that, you know, he's been dealing with this all season.
00:17:23
Speaker
the only
00:17:38
Speaker
128 in his last 3, 121 in his last 5. I know he's burnt coaches by being a late out but this is still the same Callum Mills which is averaging the most of any defender this year. It's a loose one just because of I guess what we were saying before with the whole Josh Dunkley thing and not being 100% right and coming back and it wasn't looking good but at the same time
00:17:59
Speaker
If he's been struggling with a similar thing for most of the season and you've been averaging 1.28 in his last three before having that little niggle and just being slightly off that he couldn't perform that week, that he couldn't even, sorry, get up for the game that week. I don't mind it at all, Louis, and it's loose because of the injury concern, but yeah, you'd certainly be going probably against the grain there and especially against the Suns. It could be a great pick.
00:18:23
Speaker
massive point of difference as well. So going on to the next one, which isn't much of a point of difference unfortunately, but it's Rory Laird. How can you deny what this bloke's been doing? 115 in his last 5. Been a little bit down on form with 103 in his last 3, but like I said he plays north, which have been a little bit tricky to score against lately, but Rory Laird's pretty much their go-to guy and he's not finding the footy.
00:18:48
Speaker
Nobody else will, besides Ben Keyes hacking it around all the time. I think Rory Laird, if you don't already have him, should put up a nice one versus North at Adelaide Oval this week. I love it, it's a simple one, but we love it. Rory Laird, lock it in.
00:19:02
Speaker
Next up we've got Jack Crisp. So we know what sort of ceiling this guy has. He's been in your team I think all year, Dossie. Yep, starting side. Averaging 111 his last three, 109 his last five. This is elite numbers for a midfielder, let alone a defender. And he's actually playing in defence more often than not. So got to pay respect to what he's doing. 102, 106 in his last two has Essendon at the MCG coming up where
00:19:29
Speaker
They've given up a fair few marks. Obviously Essendon will be competitive this week, but I think that Chris could be in for a big one, if I can get my words out. No, I'm with you there mate. I think this has the chance to be a really high scoring game. Obviously the big rivalry as well there.
00:19:46
Speaker
We'll have to wait and see. I wonder how that game does develop obviously with Essen and Vyne for that final spot as well. They're going to really need the win and whether that becomes a restrictive game or whether it is just free-flowing and the pyres get a few plus sixes back there with their game style. I'm interested to see how it does go but I have no doubt Chris will put his best foot forward on your grand final.
00:20:08
Speaker
Next up, and we talk about Sealing and the guys that you want to target, this guy actually went 190 versus his matchup which is Lockie Whitfield versus Carlton a couple of years ago. He's got him again in round 23. Carlton are an absolute rabble, so I would be really interested to watch this game and what a lot of the Giants are going to do this week in fact, but how could you not
00:20:29
Speaker
I recommend Locky Whitfield, he's only 681k so he's massively under priced based on what he's able to
Player Evaluations: Whitfield and Miller
00:20:36
Speaker
do. He's under priced based on what he'll average, let alone what his ceiling could be. I had the VC on him last week against Richmond at Marvel Stadium.
00:20:47
Speaker
And I just got to say, like just underwhelming for the plus sixes we thought he's going to get. So he had four marks against the Tigers, five the week before against Geelong. That's a pretty hard opponent. Same with Port the week before three. So he's had three marks, five and four the last three weeks. He had 10 against the Dons, the team we're talking about, hopefully for Crispy this week. But that's not great numbers for Whittian.
00:21:13
Speaker
I'm all about it, Louis, don't get me wrong. I'm all about it against Carlton, but what's going on there? Cause he just, I was surprised that he didn't go big against, uh, Richmond. Was there anything to that? Just an off game and ready for a massive one this week. Oh, just an off game. I think, mate, lucky Whitfield, even when he has a poor fantasy game, if you, if you actually watch him, usually he has a pretty good game uses the ball well,
00:21:34
Speaker
by foot, perhaps it was a little bit of quality over quantity, perhaps it was a little bit of resting from Leon Cameron in game, which we sometimes see. But I think that GWS and Leon Cameron will want to be absolutely firing, going into round 23, put the Blues to the sword and just find some real finals form if they're going to make that top eight. So I reckon we'll see them come out breathing fire.
00:21:58
Speaker
All right, just need some chip mark from you, Lockie. You need some chip mark in the Scram final week from our boy Lockie Whitfield then. All right, who rounds out the top six defenders here that you've got for us? Well, I almost think I should throw this one to you, Dossie, because he's been in your team for a couple of weeks. Oh, yeah.
00:22:13
Speaker
It's got to be Chrissie made in his last game, doesn't it? Oh, it has to be. Send him off with an absolute bang. It'll be amazing to get him in all our teams for this retirement journey that he's about to embark on. So he's averaging 94 for the season, which is extraordinary numbers for the great man. He's been around for quite some time, moved into this sort of bit of a new role for him on the halfback flank. He's just thriving. He really directs traffic.
00:22:40
Speaker
Oh, it's fantastic. And you would think that they do get him involved as much as possible. The only concern is what we've already talked about Essendon trying to get the huge win and whether or not they sort of do clamp down and play restrictive. I think our guys that you've selected just in this top six, Crisp and Main, there's going to be a lot of chipmunk between those two guys, but hopefully goes more to this guy here in his final game of AFL football.
00:23:07
Speaker
I hope so. The only flag I've got is maybe they push him forward to get a goal in his last game, but we'll see. We'll see. We'll have to wait and see for that one. But yeah, I love the pick Louie and at 1% owned. That's also a great point of difference, which we love on the pot pot.
00:23:25
Speaker
So we'll move into our midfielders now, Dossi, and I'll start off with the obvious, Tom Mitchell versus Richmond, last three of 130. If you don't already have him, get him. We don't need to speak about Tom Mitchell, do we? Nah. Hopefully a bigger ceiling. A lot of people would have seen him last week. I mean, there was a lot of underwhelming captain scores and 105 you wouldn't have complained about, but yeah, let's get that 130 for the Granny, shall we?
00:23:49
Speaker
Yeah, that's it. And in fact, a lot of these midfielders follow the same trend where we've spoken about them all year. And we just know how good they are. And the next one's Jack Still versus Fremantle with the last three of 135. We don't have to go in. We don't have to go in depth on that sort of stuff. So next up, which is someone we have actually spoken about quite a few, quite a bit over the last few weeks. And that's Cam Guthrie. He comes up versus Melbourne, just like he averaging the 117.3 in his last
00:24:19
Speaker
Yeah, he's been big and yeah, it's another player that I think we've talked about so much over the last few weeks, but a guy that has traditionally all season had the low time of ground. I didn't see what his time of ground numbers were this week, but it's a guy same as a, I think I made the comparison. You were trying to make one sort of comparison a few weeks ago and I brought up maybe that a better comparison was fair rainy because
00:24:43
Speaker
Is that sort of level of just points per minute machine I just never really gets above the sort of 70 to 75 percent time of ground though so it's a little bit encouraging he did play 79 percent which is off the back of 81. It looks like he it's quite weird he sort of hovers between 65 and 80 depending on I'm not sure if it's soreness or just management.
00:25:05
Speaker
Chris Scott did say at the start of the year that he would manage his players during the season in game so maybe that's what it is but he's certainly worth a mention should certainly be a trade target versus Melbourne as well which have been giving up a lot of points because they're too good they don't care about the opposition yeah that's right I just let him run free in the midfield I like that one
00:25:25
Speaker
Another one that's pretty self-explanatory but I could forgive some people for being hesitant because he did have a bit of a dip in scoring a couple of weeks ago but I think that's gone now as dogs sort of settle in and that's Jack McRae versus Port with the last three average of 108.
00:25:39
Speaker
Yeah, and I'm probably one of the only people you're talking to with this one because I actually don't have him, but- No, neither. Yeah. Well, there must be a few of us out there, but yeah, if we don't have him, it's just, I think like what we've also said- Take on aspect. It's the take him on because you haven't had him on season. So cheap now though. He is so, so cheap. Just, you know, having McCray on your team for the last round, it might just make me a lot more of a happier coach. So I'm not against doing it. That's for sure. You want to finish with a good team.
00:26:07
Speaker
Good looking team. That's impossible now mate. I'm sorry to say. Tried to catch myself there but... Alright, well let's get on to the next player. We're up to the fifth midfielder. There's a few left here.
00:26:18
Speaker
Yep. So we got Luke Parker, which is probably the biggest point of difference in this list here. He's at 1.8% as a midfielder going 102.3 in his last three 106.8 in his last five, 748 K. So he presents a nice little price is in that sort of sweet spot for that's often where I sort of get up to when I try to do my trade. So I'll see him always looking around that range. He's coming off the back of a one 16 versus North Melbourne on the weekend and then comes up versus the sons.
00:26:48
Speaker
which he averages 113.2 against across his career. Yeah that's massive.
00:26:56
Speaker
Do you think if your boy Callum Mills does come back, is that going to affect him at all? And would you sort of go one or the other in this case? No. They'll be pretty good together. They've worked well together all season. So maybe that does temper Luke Parker's ceiling a little bit. But at the same time, I think Luke Parker's a star and could certainly see him popping out of 120.
00:27:19
Speaker
Yeah, and since we kind of lost the Hugh Greenwood factor at the Gold Coast Suns, there's no real negation to to be concerned about their coming up against them as well. So should be off the chain as well. But you've got a player by the looks on the other side of this game as well in your in your list.
00:27:38
Speaker
Yeah, look, I just took Miller in here because you just can't deny what this guy's doing. I mean, he dropped an 82 on the weekend and he's still averaging 119 in his last three. I mean, do the math on that. That just shows what the guy's been scoring. I mean, yeah.
00:27:53
Speaker
You go back to around 16, 141, 155, 110, 127, 135, 140. This isn't a surprise for owners or non-owners, so he has to be on this list just based off of the fact that if he reaches his ceiling this week, you're absolutely laughing and his ownership is still only sitting at about 12%, so he's a bit of a point of difference. I don't want to go against
00:28:15
Speaker
took for what he's done this year but i think in terms of match ups that we've been talking about this is one that would concern me if i was trading you mean i'm just because we know how swans can be restricted if they want to be in if this is a guy that they've targeted.
00:28:31
Speaker
and they're going to target as a player that's going to damage them with those massive numbers that he has been doing. That's probably something enough for me to question it, would you not say? What tips it for me? And you're thinking along the right sort of line there, Dossie, I look at it as this is going to be a dead rubber match. This match means nothing to the swans. So why would they play accountable football?
00:28:54
Speaker
play your own brand and try to fine-tune everything that you like going into the finals and I just can't see the swans playing an accountable role on Took Miller. I think the fact though it's play the football you want to play, Horsey loves to be accountable so he might be practicing the opposite of what we're hoping he's going. No, it doesn't stand out for finals, you can't tag in finals. Alright, we'll back in again with Took. So who's these last couple to round out the midfield we've got?
Petracca's Performance Under Pressure
00:29:21
Speaker
All right, the next up is Jared Lyons. This is another one we have spoken so much about this last couple of weeks and we've nailed it here. It's not been hard to nail because the guys averaging 117 for the season, but pretty self-explanatory there. But yeah, he's absolutely carving. What's his matchup this week? West Coast, mate. So absolutely cashing in, laughing. You're probably getting out of your 880K. My boys are cooked.
00:29:45
Speaker
And then finally, look, I've not been hot on this guy as a fantasy player this year just because he lost his forward status, but I need to pay him some respect, and that's Christian Petrarca. He's averaging 112 for the season, 118 in his last three, just come up against, Adlai dropped a 117 and now has Geelong in his next game, so he's someone that I could easily see putting up once again another 120 plus.
00:30:11
Speaker
Gun. That's all that needs to be said about Christian Petrarca. I'd be willing to jump on. I reckon this... I have a feeling this might be a little bit more open than we think as well. This game, like you said, sort of both midfielders just going at it. I think we might see that rather than a too much accountability as well. But we'll wait and see for that one. Geelong will take it easy I think. Do they need a win? I'm not sure. I haven't done the ladder predictor but...
00:30:38
Speaker
I think it might be a sort of, I think they might actually have to win to secure a home final. It could be a high pressure. At the MCG. It is. It's the top. Yeah. Yeah. So there's 66 points versus 64 points on the ladder for this one. So it's going to be heated. So I'm wrong. It's going to be completely opposite. But does that mean it's restrictive or does that mean it's just all out? Go both ways. Yeah. It could go 50 50, mate. All right.
00:31:04
Speaker
We'll move on to the rucks really quickly. It's Grundy and Gorn. Oh wow, what a surprise there. Yeah, that's it. So moving on. It's not big Strawny. Big Strawny. Yeah, he was surprising. I'd say he's probably more pleasurable to watch than Big Rob out there just flailing his legs around. That was a blessing and a disguise wasn't it?
00:31:25
Speaker
Moving on to the forwards, once again Dane Zorko versus West Coast, 129.7 in his last three as a forward. That's ridiculous Dossie, jump on. Yeah that's crazy.
00:31:40
Speaker
like west coast as i was alluding to before yeah they're no good shambles and just lost tim kelly as well mate is it a concern that maybe mark hutchings plays a bit of an accountable role i mean he was out of the side last week surely they give one of the young kids a shot this week now
00:31:58
Speaker
Maybe, and I'm not sure they don't put it on Locky Neal anyway, to be honest. I know he's not been in the best form, but they don't want him in good form for, well, West Coast aren't playing finals. It's something to flag, though. I mean, if Hutchings is in and you've got a choice between this trade-in and one of your other five, would you just go the other way just to avoid that risk? No. I'd chase the ceiling. I really think Zorko could be in for a huge one. Yeah.
00:32:25
Speaker
All right, back it in. It depends where you are too. That's it, mate. I'm Lucy Dossie at the moment. I'm chasing ceiling. That's what I'm doing. That's why I messed up my captain choice this week, by the way. Oh, where'd you go? Titch 105. Oh, yeah. But I was so over it on the Friday night that I went, nah, VC Whitfield straight into Titch the next game, put the phone down for the rest of the weekend. Yeah, it's not. Don't even look at my team.
00:32:47
Speaker
It's not too bad a strategy when you're at this point of the year, mate. That's it. Josh Kelly coming up next versus Carlton. His last three is 113. I mean, you saw how good Kelly was on the weekend, Dossie, with the 141. He's going to be really unique.
00:33:04
Speaker
at the top couple of, what am I saying? At the top competitive coaches? Is that what I want to say? Top end, yeah. Top end coaches. Sorry, I was just trying to figure out a joke to sort of play on with you having him outside the top 10,000. Five digit dossier.
00:33:20
Speaker
Five digit Dossie, but coming up against Carlton, 108.6 average versus Carlton across his career. So I would be banking into it. I reckon it was one of his, like he had his breakout game against Carlton where we really arrived on the fantasy scene. I reckon that was where he got his big one 60 or whatever it was that really made him arrive on the scene.
00:33:43
Speaker
We'd have to look back at the data to see if that is true, but someone will do that for me. But I'm pretty sure that was where he made his stamp on the competition, Josh Kelly, and he'll probably do it again this weekend. I love it. He should dominate the Blues. Coming off 140. He's one to definitely target.
00:33:59
Speaker
After the same reason as Camgar3, we got Patrick Dangerfield who is playing in the midfield these days. He plays Melbourne. His last three is 1-0-2 excluding that injured 15, which I think we sort of have to put an asterisk on because 1-0-2 as a forward is a really, really good last three average. Yeah, his ownership I'd imagine.
00:34:19
Speaker
Yeah it is something to take on in terms of his ownership but I do think Patrick Dangerfield could put in a big one here. He's playing top of the ladder Melbourne, round 23, going into finals. I just think Patty Dangerfield could drop a big one. This is kind of the thing that I do think the midfields will go kind of head to head.
00:34:38
Speaker
Yeah, the truck of a danger. Yeah, I do think it's gonna happen So it'd be it'll be awesome to watch if that does happen But if it does you're probably right in the sense that both Petrarch and danger field are in for Kind of like what we saw back in the day with danger verse five kind of that just then Guthrie There's water on top of that's not not a match up to our sneeze that either my way and say Maybe Chris Scott will just throw it back in our face and it'll be a pressure field game But um, yeah, probably and go let him go
00:35:04
Speaker
Next up, we've got Jordan de Goey versus Essendon. His last three is 105.7. I think most coaches would have Jordan de Goey by this point. And I'd still recommend jumping on him because the points are there. And with how quickly it drops off in the forward line anyway, if you don't have Jordan de Goey or if you don't have five or six of these guys anyway, then jump on. Is this a week as well?
00:35:30
Speaker
We talk DFS kind of, this is, this is really, it's a one game. So we have to think about DFS style things heading into this final week of finals. And we talk about like big goal kickers or something like that. I haven't seen any of these guys in your lift. You've got, you've gone pretty much the players you just genuinely think are going to carve up, which is fine. And a lot of midfielders, especially we do sort of have those players that maybe kick a bag to get the Coleman. I don't know if there's any that really stand out this year in that sense.
00:36:01
Speaker
But I think we do especially would you change trades based on like things like weather or things like that that can play a factor in our DFS selections to make sure that a game is going to be a high scoring game for both teams and that's the sort of way you want to go you just want to get a game that is going to be high scoring and pick players from that game.
00:36:21
Speaker
Absolutely I would, but I wouldn't let myself get panicked by it either. So quite often, Dossie, it'll be a Saturday, 1-0-5. Get the message on my phone, ding. Hayden Dossie has messaged me. Gee, this weather looks good, mate. Should I put the VC on Aaron Hall?
00:36:37
Speaker
You know, that's panicky sort of stuff and you're on the right track, but sometimes when it's so close to the bounce, you just go, oh, screw it. I'll do it. But I think you got to be clever with it. Yeah, agreed.
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00:36:50
Speaker
But I do think that's this week, just something for listeners to.
00:36:53
Speaker
Pay attention to like later in the week, have a really good sauce of the weather when we get conditions, you know, announce for where and when the games are going to be. Just have a look at what the weather is going to be like that sort of thing and just see if it's going to be a free flowing game. If you.
00:37:09
Speaker
project yourself. If you think, for instance, that the Geelong Melbourne game is going to be tight, not free-flowing at all, then avoid these guys we're suggesting and go for a game like, I don't know, the Carlton GWS, which might be that sort of free-flowing at or the Adelaide North game. As you say, Dead Rubber might be have to be the title of this podcast. I thought about putting in Benny T's.
00:37:35
Speaker
you know, just look at these match-ups and figure out what you think is best for you. And that's the players I'd be targeting is those just high ceiling games from a high ceiling matchup is what we're really after. But let's get through these last couple of players. Yeah, we'll just wrap up these two here, Dossie. Chad Wingard, your man, plays Richmond this week. Last three, 115. I just think, like I say, how quickly it drops off in the forward line, that Chad Wingard is a genuine option. And he just goes on runs.
00:38:02
Speaker
He does, doesn't he? He goes on runs, he's on one. Just jump on. I'm sure he'll be fine this week. And you've only got to have him for one week. So, you know, lick your bones if it doesn't work out. Matt Kennedy is the final one. Grudge match versus GWS. Yeah, the Grudge match. Last three, 111. And do you know what? Even that 43 a couple of weeks ago, that was because he
Highlighting Key Players for Final Round
00:38:22
Speaker
played forward, not because he was a
00:38:23
Speaker
out of form, so I've got to acknowledge this guy at this point and he's actually got a little bit of value on him, so I'd be picking him up if that's all you can get to. Yeah, he's still cheap enough to go to, especially after just coming off his highest. Was that his highest? That has to be his highest score of the season, wasn't it? 131. Oh, it would have to be.
00:38:42
Speaker
Excuse me. Yeah. Score of his career. Yeah, it would be wouldn't it? You know, only 72% time on ground too. So coming against GWS. No Patty Cripps. Yeah. Yep. Okay, you've got a few notes here for us though. It's not just your best 22 year also just giving us a few flags for maybe some guys to take on perhaps.
00:39:05
Speaker
Yeah, a couple of guys that you could easily put in your top trade targets most weeks, but this week I just think there's a little bit of a question mark on some of these guys. So starting it off with Sam Walsh. He was tagged versus GWS earlier this year. He plays GWS again and Matt De Boer is fit. So do they do it again? Do they need to do it again? Well, those suck.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah, they do suck, but they, GWS also need to win the game. So if something worked last time, they'd probably do do it again, don't they? Perhaps. So that's one for coaches looking for a point of difference. Clayton Oliver is next. He could cop the mock lock, Marco O'Connor. He actually tagged in the last half this week and Brandon Parfit did a job in the first half. So I'd just be a little bit worried that Oliver maybe cops a bit of attention this week. Unfortunately, your boy, Braden Feoreni,
00:39:59
Speaker
He'll be fine. He's on this list just because... Not just a 110 this week then I guess.
00:40:03
Speaker
He's no took miller mate and he plays Sydney which have been relatively tough to score against when they decide to lock it up a bit. Andrew Gaff versus Brisbane, recipe for disaster here. I'm not sure how many coaches have Andrew Gaff but I can see a bit of a floor game there even though we put up something nice on the weekend. And then Rowan Marshall versus Fremantle up against Sean Darcy off the back of his 52. It's just too many flags for me.
00:40:31
Speaker
Yeah, I'm just returning to what you're saying about Walsh. I know it's like it seems like a different podcast every week is saying, oh, maybe get rid of Walsh. Like I know we've said it last week. We said it could be an option for you with the injury cloud and this tough matchup this week.
00:40:48
Speaker
I do just I do think that you know especially if this to bore his name we saw Walsh actually tend a lot of center bounces last week with Patrick Cripps out probably is a genuine concern considering we've seen that Leon's willing to roll Tim Taranto as a forward and something like that could easily happen and you could just get that that tough tag on considering that the Giants will be wanting to get that dubs.
00:41:12
Speaker
So and what they've been doing the blows the last couple of weeks is starting Sam Walsh on a halfback flank to avoid that tag and going straight into the midfield. What GWS actually do with Matt De Boer is start him on a half forward flank and then send him into the midfield. So yeah, we'll see.
00:41:28
Speaker
Alright, let's get into our delish dozen which we've got here from the late call up we actually sent it out to our Pod Pod Plus crew just because we were late on the show to get this out to the social so we thought we might throw it to these guys and I reckon we've got just under the does but we'll just roll through it and David Potter is coming up with Tom Rockliffe as a player he wants to talk about now.
00:41:51
Speaker
I'm assuming this is thanks to the traders. I haven't had a chance to listen to their latest episode, but I'm thinking that there seems to be a tribute floating around of people bringing in the great men and whacking the sea on just before maybe for a cheeky before their Thursday show or something to get his numbers up. But I think we'll be having to do that for a couple of days, won't we, Louis?
00:42:12
Speaker
Well, I've got a rocky history with Tom Rockliffe actually. You're not doing it, you're honoring him. I still remember when I traded in Tom Rockliffe after his 134 averaging season in around 23, only to be a late out and losing my grand final match-up. So I've always been sour grapes with Tom Rockliffe, but he's been alright since he moved to Port Adelaide, I'll admit. Oh yeah, yeah, Port man now as well. That's pretty sour from Louis.
00:42:37
Speaker
I've been a big fan. Follow the journey. Had him so many times in my team, so many captain sees across the year. And yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll jump on. I haven't listened, but I will be. And I'll be doing whatever that in terms of embracing the fantasy community as well. Just such a legend. Yeah, absolutely.
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's a shame. I just wish we could have got one final, one final. One farewell game. God, it would have been a piggish. Oh, piggish would have been disgustingly piggish. All right. Brad wants to talk about Selwood. So I guess Joel Selwood, he came off a pretty big game on the weekend. We're talking about this Melbourne. And we're talking about players getting arrested as well. Joel Selwood just
00:43:19
Speaker
screams out for me, especially with, I mean, he's played nearly every game this season. In fact, he's played, yeah, he's only missed a couple, but he's going to be a little bit banged up. So that's someone that I could see being managed in game or managed by being not in the game in round 23. I'm not a fan of it. I could never bring in Joel Selden and enjoy my trades for the week at this point. He's retired now in terms of being a fantasy option.
00:43:43
Speaker
Uh, Steven wants to talk about fair rainy. Now Louis just put a flag on him. I'm all about it. Still. He's just getting the job done week to week. Uh, had a little bit of a, I was really annoyed. I was talking to you. That's amazing. Uh,
00:43:58
Speaker
I was talking about pre-show. He got negative eight after the siren on the weekend and he was my captain as well. So I lost a big amount of points. Yeah, that hurts. It's absolutely brutal. So champion data. Obviously there was a fair any fan in the box. It wasn't me, but I was definitely counting some extra stats along the way as well. I'm a big fan.
00:44:17
Speaker
I still go there, Steven, I reckon. Locky wants to talk about Relton Roberts. It's been a few years since he's a hit the fantasy traps, I think there. So we won't talk about him, but Urban, Zaki Butters has to have a run in his team this week. His CBA's are up on the weekend. You liked him last week, didn't you?
00:44:37
Speaker
Yeah, I did like him last week, and I like him even more this week, because I was listening to the radio on the way here, actually, Dossie. He was doing an interview with Kimbo and The Rooch, and he said that he'll be using or he'll be attending more center bounces next week as he gets a bit more match fitness. So yeah, I mean, he's already attending center bounces, but there may be a little bit of an uptick in that, although he did say that there were a lot of goals kicked on the weekend. So maybe that was why he was in there so much.
00:45:07
Speaker
Taking the Mickey out of himself a bit, but Zach Budders in the midfield wins games for Port Adelaide, so I think that's what we'll see. Yeah, the last time I saw him in the guts with serious centre bounces was when he was actually in my team in the third or fourth round this year when he was, he had about 80 at half time. Yeah, so he can get it done when he's playing guts. And speak about locks in our forward line next year. Zachy Budders, mate, he's played nine games, so he's going to come in massively discounted.
00:45:37
Speaker
I can see you've moved on to 2022 planning already there, Louis. And I'm with you, mate. I'm with you. Jared wants to know about Alex Witherton, who I brought in last week. And I think it's a great move. As soon as Hearn went down, that was where my thinking came through. When he's taken a bunch of kickouts this year, he's gone massive. He's had a huge ceiling. In games where he's had over eight kickouts, he's basically going at 120. And it's only like a two or three game sample.
00:46:05
Speaker
Yeah, I'm a pretty big fan of it versing the grudge talk about grudge matches old Alex with it and against his old team in Brisbane He's played enough at the gabba if it is at the gabba Don't know if that's gonna happen. But yeah, we'll see how Alex goes But I'm a big fan of with oh as a nice little point of difference in this last round
00:46:24
Speaker
I'm a big fan too mate, this is the sort of guy that you do bring in for one round at the end of the year because if he finds his ceiling you'll be laughing. Alright and we've got one, we've got two more here so Caleb Sarong wants to, Rick wants to know about Caleb Sarong and obviously just without Nat 5 and finally getting the time on ground that he needs and the centre bounces that he needs.
00:46:46
Speaker
Sarong has shown that he is an absolute fantasy stud in the West Coast matchup on the weekend, dropped to 121, the medal. He was just amazing and you'd expect that he's a pretty nice option for this last week. Yeah well his confidence should be up, plays the Saints which are pretty easy to score against so I could see a pretty decent score from Caleb Sarong. The only flag is I think Frio are still a slight chance of
00:47:13
Speaker
of making the eight. So I'm not sure if that affects his role, but they are winning. So, you know, you just got to look at that. Well, he just won them in the game on the weekend. One 17 and he's had one 18 and one 17 in his last two games. See that goal. Oh yeah. Well, I was
00:47:29
Speaker
I was on the other side, I was raging at the screen. I was like, first of all, I thought it was out about three times. And then it was sort of that, it was, I think all the players were like, oh, that's going to go out. It's going to trickle out. Just don't bother. And then he just picks it up and snaps it from the bloody boundary line. Oh yeah. It was a flaky goal. It was gross, but good on him. 1.17 for owners. And yeah, I still think he's a great option.
00:47:52
Speaker
I don't mind him either. We've seen that Fremantle have been churning through these young guys in the midfield at the moment. So yeah, jump on. Why not? All right. That's our delish half dozen or how many it was there, Louie. Do you have any pod pod pods for us this week at all?
00:48:07
Speaker
Look, I will just say Wingarn is a Pod Pod Pod. I think he can drop something nice this week. And then, and then Maine, which we spoke about at 1.3%. And I'm already foreseeing that the episode title is going to be named after the great man. So yeah, Chrissie Maine's my Pod Pod Pod. I've already, I've already named a few after him. I think, I think we've settled on the, the name's going to be something to do with this dead rubber. This dead rubber thing that you've brought up about 50 times. Dead rubber Granny, I think is the,
00:48:35
Speaker
the name of this show, but let's get into our questions for the week.
00:48:47
Speaker
Alrighty, Louis, on to the questions from at pod pod AFL on Twitter. You can find Louis at Louis AF and me at HK Doss. This one comes from Tyson. Best mid under 810K. He's looking at Brayshore and Guthrie as unique in the final. So Brayshore coming off suspension. We just talked about Sorong as an option coming up against the Saints. Andy Brayshore having a week off. You reckon he could go a ride as well?
00:49:14
Speaker
Do you reckon Brayshore could go alright? Coming off the suspension, 62 or 67 or something versus Brisbane the week before, I'd be a little bit concerned, whereas Cam Guthrie's form line is almost the opposite. I know Brayshore did drop that massive ceiling game a couple of weeks ago, but I'd be chasing the consistency of Guthrie since he's a pod.
00:49:36
Speaker
All right. There you go. This one from Joe blog Neil or side bottom. And is there any other, what are the best options under $700,000? So do you like lucky Neil or still side bottom there? I don't mind lucky Neil. You're jumping on him for one week. So you don't have to worry about his fitness.
00:49:53
Speaker
We know how good he is, I think he's going to want to find some form in this last game before going into the finals and he comes at great value at 691k. Still side bottom, he's had the roll at centre bounces, he hasn't really found his ceiling, I still think his roll could be volatile this week.
00:50:12
Speaker
just because maybe calling would try a few new things depending on which way the game goes but that being said still side bottoms record versus Essendon is unbelievable so I don't mind both of those two options in terms of best person under 700k dossie thinking on my feet I'd probably have to say
00:50:32
Speaker
Lockie Whitfield. Yeah, he's under 700. That's amazing, isn't it? If you can scrape a few extra dollars, you'd obviously go Kristofferson, Maine at the 703K, I think it is. You know who another good option would be, and he's fairly highly owned, but Jayden Short at 680K coming up against the Hawks off the back of a 110. I think he should score pretty well against the Hawks this weekend.
00:50:59
Speaker
Um, that's another one to consider, especially considering they're now out of, uh, out of finals contention, the elder tags. So yeah, maybe that there's, there's a couple of options for you anyway. There's, there's actually a lot of nice, um, options under 700 K. So there's guys like Caleb Daniel, you could back in for just the one week Chad Wingard. We've spoke about multiple times, even Jack Redden seems to be in really nice form for the West, the struggling West coast.
00:51:25
Speaker
There's so many cheap options at the moment. I swear to God, just a couple of weeks ago, once you got to 700 K, that's just a gap. Yeah. And then it was 800 K players. There's nothing in between. Yeah. People hit inform light. It sort of happens that way, doesn't it? You can find a bit of gold at the end of the season. It sort of just comes out of nowhere.
00:51:43
Speaker
Hopefully that helps, but lucky Neil out of those two, the side bottom and Neil. Absolutely. Dan Kay, thinking of trading out Oliver or Bont who don't have great matchups this round, or Taranto who looks to be back up forward, I'd definitely be getting rid of Taranto if you have that luxury trade. Yeah, Taranto for me. Which of them should I trade? We're both going with Taranto. Like we said, I think we were just so lucky. Imagine no four goals last week. Taranto, Oliver, and was Walsh that last one?
00:52:09
Speaker
Uh, I don't think he says, well, she was just Bont. Sorry. I would do it in. Yeah. I'd be picking that one. Yeah. Toronto. Which of them should I trade? And then should I bring in Andrew bracial Guthrie who you've already preferred Guthrie or Ben Kays though.
00:52:26
Speaker
Don't mind Ben Keys. He's down at 737k in a dead rubber versus North Melbourne at Adm. Oval. I mean, when we speak about sealing, this guy's got it. So I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to I'm not going to recommend somebody brings in Ben Keys, but Guthrie, not the other guy, maybe Ben Keys.
00:52:48
Speaker
Kays is gonna record that and So yeah, Benny Kays are probably fantasy points for disposal efficiency. We'd be in strife, but It's funny how Kays then pays out fair rainy as well for that They're pretty much similar sort of output on the older that being said family much better player Alright a man main and or Murphy to go big in retirement final game. I think Murph's done isn't in there
00:53:16
Speaker
Yeah, Mark Murphy's done. So get on Mainy, E-Man. What did Mark Murphy do in his last game? 92. That's not too bad for old Mark Murphy. Imagine what Chris E-Man's going to go. Yeah, that's it. Jade, I'm in a grand final. What the F do I do? I've got about five players, Hunter, Houston, Daniel, coming side bottom, who could possibly underperform and F me over. And they're up against the likes of Jack Steele, Sam Walsh, Wines, Crisp, and Rich. Just please, tell me what to do.
00:53:48
Speaker
to be the guy to tell him a lot of people are going to have to fall over to win that one. That's that's JJ. What can you do? Not a whole lot. Hope pray.
00:54:03
Speaker
get creative but that's that's a uphill battle that one definitely get creative with those periphery players and try and fling something that's going to get you something not so great and try and I would identify the players in his matchup that his opponent owns that may be underperformed this week and try to chase a point of difference that way because there's no way those five players are competing with the five players that you just mentioned like your steals and all that sort of stuff so
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00:54:30
Speaker
And good luck Jade with that one. Anthony, can downgrade Reeves and upgrade Ridley or downgrade Walsh with Deboer. So he's concerned about the Deboer here and upgrade Ridley. So what's his best option? He's got four options here.
00:54:48
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Wow, and he's got an extra one. So hold Walsh Ridley to Ben K's parish gaff or Neil. Walsh to Butters Ridley, Josh Kelly. Can you rate these and just give me your best one or are you not on the social? No, I'm not on it. Walsh to Matt. I'm going to trust you with this answer. Walsh to Wingard Ridley to Neil.
00:55:08
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Butters can it yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot here Anthony. Sorry There's too much to read but what do we reckon out of those sort of premiums there Josh Kelly butters parish keys gaff kneel? What do you think?
00:55:22
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The Keys one's intriguing me now. Alright, let's do that one. I like that one. Ray, who should I get rid of? Prestia or Taranto will replace either with Lions. Taranto could kick another four against the Blues. I'd trade Taranto, I think Prestia will go right this week and copped it a bit today because he had a little bit of a COVID breach so he might go out and stick the finger up at everyone and play a ripper.
00:55:51
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Alright, so Toronto out again for that one. Nick, Zorko, Josh Kelly or Crisp, getting rid of woeful bows and can flick Hall back if needed. So Zorko, Josh Kelly or Jack Crisp. I think I would go Josh Kelly just because as you flag maybe Zorko could copper tag. Then I would be happy with Zorko followed by Crisp I think.
00:56:14
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Okay, yeah, they're all great options. So, good luck, Nick. And maybe in that case, you know, do have a look at these weather stuff and a bit about the matchup, see who's in if Hutchings or something comes in. That sort of thing is definitely what you're looking for in those to decide on that trade. But yeah, Josh Kelly, they're all great options. This one from Rug.
00:56:34
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players with best match ups for this week. I think basically this whole pod's been about that. So we can probably just skip past that. That's exactly what I'll try to put out some stuff during the week as well. Um, just based on match ups and who might be able to get a really good run this week. So, uh, stay tuned at Louis AF and I'm sure we'll retweet it on pod pod AFL too. Absolutely. We'll, we'll be doing that. So Cam Mitchell wants to know who's the biggest liability for a grand final out of these guys, Houston coming or harms. I'm thinking of going harms to Patraka.
00:57:05
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Yeah, I think harms, because the midfield mix at Melbourne are returning, aren't they? I think Jacqueline is done with his little stint on the sidelines. So pending teams, it's harms or coming for me. I kind of buy what Houston's putting out at the moment when he comes up versus the Bulldogs who are quite easy to score against. I think he's being real good lately too, though. I'd be backing in coming for sure. What did he get on the weekend? Did he stink it up? I thought he was really good again.
00:57:33
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He got 96 and coming off a 116 or something the way before, yeah you're not getting rid of him. Houston at least is in some form, who have your port boys got this week.
00:57:43
Speaker
uh port have the dogs okay so Houston should score really well versus dogs forwards because defenders score well versus the dogs and then you've got harms well I'm glad you're saying harms because you know I'm biased I'm just not a huge fan of him fantasy wise um I'm not a fan footy wise yeah probably probably a bit of both there so yeah harmsy for us going uh kind of hackling
00:58:09
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Chrissie Mayne or Josh Kelly, Grand Final opponent has Kelly. So are you countering Kelly or are you bringing in big Chrissie Mayne?
00:58:20
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So he's asking, does Chris Mayne outscore Josh Kelly this week? I'm not that confident. If Josh Kelly wasn't playing Carlton, if he was playing like, oh, I don't know, Geelong, I'd go, OK, all right, I'll take that on. But no, I think you've got to negate Josh Kelly there.
00:58:40
Speaker
Yeah, look, you know, you know, we love our Chrissy Maine, but we don't want to give out poor advice. And that's a, that's a tough one. Chris Maine has a ceiling of one 26 this season. Josh Kelly has a ceiling of one 51. So, and he's talking 25 points. Yep. Yeah. Just counter Kelly hates on it to Chrissy Maine.
00:58:59
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Let's hope for a big one from Chrissie though. All right. Steven Summons, Locky Hunter to Matt Kennedy. Honestly, I don't mind it. Hunter's essentially a top Phillips. That could be a 50 point upgrade. Yeah. Okay. Good. Ah, Dion Prestia and Zack Butters, two mid price options for the final round. Um, yeah, I think that's, that's, they're nice options.
00:59:18
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Yeah, Budders certainly is, and I don't mind what Presti has been doing either. He's always been about 100 guy, and if that's what you need, then by all means. Is Tim Kelly on the Never Again list from Ninja Spoon? No, he's not. It was a knee injury, wasn't it? Yeah, it was a tough one. I think it was a teammate that barreled into him from the side, looked like something. Same sore knee? Or something. I'm not sure which knee, to be honest, but it was like one of the, you know,
00:59:47
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force coming in from the side, banging into it, so it didn't look nice. Right, so I don't know if Ninja has had him all season, in which case I don't blame you for putting him on your never again list, but when a lot of coaches did bring in Tim Kelly, it was under the cloud of injury. We thought he had maybe a few knee problems, it came good, he looked good and ultimately it did catch up on us, so it was a risk taken and fortunately it wasn't a risk rewarded.
01:00:12
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And we do want to pull one out for our mate, Nathan. I don't know if you've heard this story yet, Louie, our mate, no hat Nathan, um, from the Twitter sphere. He had Sorong and Tim Kelly, but he managed to loop in. I swapped him. He managed to loop in John Newcomb. So he had a big one 11 sitting on the bench.
01:00:32
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So he looped in one, had to bench one of Tim Kelly and Sarong. You can guess which one he can count on. Oh no, okay. Well, no, you can't blame him for that. You can't blame him for that. That's what most coaches would have thought. But might have been the difference from no longer being called no hat Nathan, but unfortunately.
01:00:48
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It is still his nickname. All right. I think that is all our questions that we've got time for tonight. And, uh, Louie, it's been a pleasure this season doing these podcasts and I'm sure we'll have one to wrap or one or two to wrap things up over the next couple of weeks. We're definitely going to make that two, mate. The bullets I've copped in the second half this season, we're going to have to stretch it over two.
01:01:09
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And we're definitely, we're going to be doing one, a special edition one with the keeper league pod. So stay tuned for that one, but everyone good luck in your grand finals. Thanks for making this a really awesome community to be a part of in the pod pod in 2021. We've been really enjoying doing this and Louie, we'll be talking to you soon anyway, mate, but good luck in your round 23 as well.
01:01:28
Speaker
Yeah, good luck every, all of you listeners. Thanks for listening all year. Good luck in your match-ups. Dossi, I'm not sure if you're in a couple of grand finals, I reckon you might be, but just draft. I don't think I'm in any, so you don't have to wish me luck. I'm in my home league in draft, but I think, um,
01:01:45
Speaker
I think pretty much everyone just stopped playing about halfway through the year. So I'm basically versed in donuts on the lead up. But I think the grand final match up, there's, it's two people that have been giving their all year. So yeah, hopefully a big one for me in that granny. But yeah, thanks mate. Beautiful. See you next week. Yep. See you next week.