Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
CBA movers and shakers, flaming hot SUNS, and Matt Rowell eats grass | Round 8 AFL Fantasy #PODPOD
183 Plays2 years ago
The lads ponder if every single player they don't own will go on to score 170 again next week as they reflect on another monumental round of scoring. Dos, Stato, Holmesy, and Harmey look at some of the biggest centre bounce attendance (CBA) changes in recent weeks to try and find the next gun premium or value pick to jump on!
In a last-ditch attempt to keep motivated in 2023, Holmesy demands a one-on-one battle for rankings glory and do what Stato could not last year — beat Dossy.
Use the code 'PODPOD' when you sign up for 20% off your Keeper League membership: keeperleaguepod.com.au/keeper-league-membership/
Keeper League members gain access to CBA analysis, state league fantasy scores, kick-in data, a comprehensive draftee analysis for your rookie research, the Breakout Tracker, advanced spreadsheets for fantasy draft season, and much more!
Follow us on Twitter!
PODPOD: @podpodAFL
Dos: @HKdos
Lewy: @LewyAF
Statesman: @Statesman33
Holmesy: @Holmesyheroes
Harmey: @jonharmey
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction and AFL Fantasy Updates
00:00:02
Speaker
you
00:00:18
Speaker
And welcome to the Pod Pod, it's your boy Darcy talking all things AFL fantasy on this Monday night, 8th of May, 2023. Joining the conversation as always is Homesy, Harmony and Stado. We got no Louis tonight due to a later recording time, but my goodness, it was another insane round of scoring, just 160s, 170s left, right and center. Just about everyone had one and it was just a mammoth amount of scores,
Fantasy Scores and Player Highlights
00:00:44
Speaker
guys. Let's go around the room, talk about our scores and ranks.
00:00:48
Speaker
And talk about how many pliers we had that maybe tipped over that 170 mark, because it was bloody every man and his dog. Stado, you want to go first? Yeah, a round score of 2319, which was looking really good, to be honest there for a while, but I don't have Zebel. So you can imagine my rank in about 12 minutes.
00:01:08
Speaker
in the second quarter when he's knocked up his tonne. So that was a bit ugly there and ranked therefore copped a bit of a hit. So ranked 9-7-7. So that's a drop of 440 positions and I reckon 400 of those is on Jack Ziebel. Had four of the big six. The two I didn't have is Brayshaun Ziebel.
00:01:34
Speaker
Few players there, Stado, not a bad score, mate, and still up near the pointy end. Holmes, he might leave you to last. How'd you go, mate? I didn't get to a bad buzz. Put up a score of 2-3-4-2, so yeah, I guess it's pretty reasonable, but there were some pretty big scores out there, and yeah, like Stado, I don't have Zebel, so it was a bit sort of hard to see their result there with that one. But that brought my rank in from
00:02:03
Speaker
6,000 to about 5,400. So, winning a little bit on the back of that. Don't mind that harm. You need a bit more from you, mate. They need to lift about 10%. Just get a bit better. Just do
Standout Performances: Lux and Sucks
00:02:14
Speaker
better. Holmesy, how'd you go this week, mate? Yeah, Dos, I'm going to actually throw it back to you, mate. How'd you go this week?
00:02:23
Speaker
Yeah, I thought I did better for some reason than you. You had a stinking weight, but yeah, of course I did worse. All right, I'll go first then. Oh wait, did you actually? I haven't actually seen your score. Is that legit? Did I beat you? Oh, unless you haven't updated your score. I definitely haven't updated my score, mate. Don't you worry about that. Okay, maybe I'll go first then. All right.
00:02:41
Speaker
Alright so I scored 22-43 and it's just a shame when you're scoring these 2200s. Usually would be pretty good weeks ranking wise and scoring wise but just this year has been out of this world in terms of players scoring massively and when you don't have guys some
00:03:00
Speaker
I guess players you might consider obvious picks like a Tom Green who goes 170 and a Jack Zieber who's in plenty of teams as well then yeah you're not going to go far in your ranks so I scored 2243 and I came in a little bit on my rank so I went up 200 spots still inside the top 20k sitting at 19,737 a beautiful rank there and what I will say though
00:03:25
Speaker
is I didn't stuff up my trades despite copying the COVID breakout again. Last year, that was the downturn of my season. Holmesy brings it up quite a lot. I think I brought in Jaden Stevenson last year, and I blamed COVID for that. So thankfully, that didn't happen. But Holmesy, how did you go?
Strategic Trades and Role Impacts
00:03:44
Speaker
Yeah, considerably worse than that, Dos. Thanks for bringing those 150 plus players up that I didn't have one of on the weekend, so that was fantastic. $21.88 for me. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. I didn't actually have a bad week considering just some very underperforming premiums, but yeah, $21.88, mate. No good.
00:04:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's just tough, isn't it? You look around your team, you're like, yeah, I'm going all right. You check every other team and they're either doing the same as you or far better. It's just a demoralizing moment with all these massive scores. All right. Let's talk about some of these massive scores with our Lux. Lux is mine from the start.
00:04:24
Speaker
Stado back to you, mate. Who did well enough to earn your Lux for the week? Well, mid-pricer gets mine, but he's no longer a mid-pricer because he's the highest scoring midfielder average for the season. That's Tom Green, smashed out
00:04:42
Speaker
a 130 last week and comes and gives us 170 this week. It's a great day when you get one of your mid prices actually scoring like that. So very good weekend from Tommy Green. I will just
00:04:58
Speaker
lucks one other thing and it's really not the right way to play but thanks to homie we were having a few discussions on what I needed to do and I didn't like setter's role so I moved on him took him up to Dawson which was a good solid move straight bad the highest owned good player that I didn't have in my team
00:05:26
Speaker
And then we talked a while, talked through the options and he suggested that I had to get off Riddas. I agreed with him. So I jumped off him for rat, which helped me get the cash to get Dawson. So it was a change score of about 120 points plus. So that's a good weekend when that happens for you.
00:05:52
Speaker
bit of kissing there from, uh, getting off Ridley for his injured 14 state. Oh geez. That's it. And no doubt there would have been some complaints still from the state on his score, but far out, man, you got it. You got to thank your lucky stars when that happens. Um, yeah, great, great trading though. I guess, even though you said it's not your usual conventional, um, the conventional trades you'd go for, but I'm blown away and well done for dodging that bullet. Uh, harmi, you want to take us through your Lux?
00:06:20
Speaker
Oh, this week, I think I'm going to give it to Errol Goulden, 161 he had, and he was just awesome. For a guy that didn't have any sense about attendances for the game, he just racked up. It's sort of like he just followed around the stoppage regardless. Like after the CBA, he'd sort of follow around all of those stoppage plays and got a lot of clearances and he just looked amazing. So, yeah.
00:06:42
Speaker
give him a bit of a vote of confidence this week. So the Swans had a bit of a game plan to combat Collingwood and a fair bit of that was the slow play and looking at the switch and he just found himself in the best position. But one thing that we would all love, but especially Dossie, he was so pissed off with his teammates when he didn't get used. The observable thirst
00:07:11
Speaker
was there for everyone to see. Absolutely. That's what we love about Goulden. He is a thirsty operator. Holmesy, who's your luck's mate in that rubble? Yeah. And you guys are going to laugh, but I can't believe I got one 27 from Liam Stocker and still scored that. So that shows how well I'm going to move on.
00:07:34
Speaker
Wow. I'm just going to, I'll just give it to Josh Dunkley quickly off the top as well. 172. We just, guess we take that for granted because he's in essentially every team. I think he's in 70% of teams or something ridiculous like that, but 172. And I guess we probably don't bat an eyelid because we know that that's what he's capable of. He's just not done it since arriving at Brisbane, but
00:07:55
Speaker
Yeah, that was an outstanding display on the first, first match of the round. And yeah, it was devastated. I hadn't even considered him for the vice captain just because he hasn't been delivering it
Midfielder Challenges and Bi-week Planning
00:08:07
Speaker
this year. So congratulations to anyone that had actually, you know, had the balls or had the foresight to, to think, to put the VC on him and have a monster score for the round.
00:08:17
Speaker
I also just wanted to, I just wanted to mention that I think like the last couple of weeks, I'm very happy with my trades, despite the scores and the rank not really rising. So I wanted to give the lucks aside from dunks, the obvious one, to Chera and Callum Mills. So the last two weeks I've brought in Adam Chera, who's gone back to back 130s. And then I brought in Callum Mills this week. I went against bringing in the light years ahead, Stringer, who didn't do too well, mind you.
00:08:46
Speaker
And backed in a more obvious premium in Callum Mills and like I think my process is there so I was quite happy with that. But let's get on to our sucks. Hold on a sec, Dossie. If you did say well those trade-ins, how can you still score 100 less than Stolo and I? What were your other trade-ins that you're not talking about?
00:09:07
Speaker
Well, no, like the trade-ins are fine. So the last two weeks, the players I brought in are Cherra, Feorini, Callum Mills and Drury. So like, I don't think I've, I haven't got one of those wrong. The problem is that the incumbent.
00:09:22
Speaker
the players that I did at the start of the year. So I think I mentioned to you guys in the chat this week that there's a clear moment in my season where I, where I fell apart, where I was averaging, still doing well, doing great. And then there was a moment and it was when Docherty went down, my season just went in a completely different direction.
00:09:42
Speaker
I was even advising friends and family and people, everyone around the community, when he went down, just go to Dawson and a rookie. That was the pretty obvious move. Everyone did that, except for the great man handing out that advice in Dossie. I went instead, split the cash between Trent Rivers and Jack Bose. So that's where my season tumbled out of control. So let's get to our sucks.
00:10:11
Speaker
Let's go, mate. Who sucks? We don't need to hear another sucks from you. You just gave us the best one of the year. So this one's a bit harsh and seeing I dodged Ridley's bullet, I shouldn't go too strong, but he gave me a ton last week. But K Chandler normally won't do this to a rookie because they are a rookie, but he is 23 years of age.
00:10:36
Speaker
that number 37 has appeared way too many times in my squad this year and he was another 37 so time to go Chandler or worst case scenario time to go off the field. Yeah that's fair enough I suppose and shows I guess how well rounded your team is if you have to do have to give it to the rookie that you've got there. Ah Hami who's your sucks with the weight mate? Well when it comes to fantasy
00:11:05
Speaker
schools you really want your players getting 100 that's what you want your premos hitting so I'll have looked through my midfield and there is only one player that's got 100 and that is Tom Green all the rest of them Jack McRae will set a field all of these buzz names just not get it done for me so my whole midfield can have it apart from Tom Green. Love that. Holmsey, plenty for you to choose from mate.
00:11:27
Speaker
Yeah, and I have to get something off my chest here. This is just, I can't even believe this, but I've had a bit of bad luck, right? I've had a few forced trades. But how can Brad Crouch and Christian Petrarca, two of my top players, combine for seven points less than Tom Green? Yeah. What is going on?
00:11:49
Speaker
Yeah, look, my team's a rabble, absolute rabble. But in no world should that happen. And then when Tim English puts 80 points on Sean Darcy as well, it's just no wonder my team was nowhere near the top this week.
Player Evaluations and Trade Strategies
00:12:00
Speaker
And credit to you too, because Trucker was one of the three or four premiums.
00:12:08
Speaker
that I was looking at and I mentioned him to you and you shared to me as an owner, just have a look. Yeah, he pumped out, I think I won 40 the week before, but I actually looked through his scoring history this year and tough matchups, he struggled in scoring, easy matchup and he's bashed him up. So that was really good intel, so thanks.
00:12:36
Speaker
Yeah. And just on that, I think we need to go away from the Gold Coast matchup being considered an easy matchup as well, especially for captain choices with the way they're playing. It just wasn't it. He played a very, very good fantasy game in terms of, sorry, a very good football game at 25 and two, but an 80 didn't really reflect a good fantasy score. So yeah, wouldn't be jumping unless he guarantees get forward status. And we both know round 10, he'll have an 80% midfield game and just fall short again.
00:13:02
Speaker
What's with Brad Crouch too? I know there's a few listeners that'll want to ask it later anyway. We might as well touch on it now. I mean, talking about that, you've watched him closely. What's happening there?
00:13:12
Speaker
I only watched him closely last week. I didn't actually see this game, but yeah, I actually don't know. Last year, Jack Steele helped him. And this year, three games with Jack Steele back, he's gone 70, 70, 80. So yeah, he's horrendously out of form. And now a very bad pick considering I went golden to him a month ago. So that now really, really hurts. Yeah. All right.
00:13:33
Speaker
I'll be quick, as you said, Stado, I have got a few sucks on my team, but Jack McRae, just with the 90, I just can't, like, can every other premium, your Jack Zebels go 170s, your Tom Greens get 170s. Jack McRae, the most consistent fantasy player on the planet over our lifetimes in the last 10 or so years, and he just can't bloody score this year. Like, he's not getting the role, and he just doesn't look like the Jack McRae of old. And it's honestly like,
00:14:00
Speaker
From the players in my team, I expect some of my guys not to do that well. It's not a devastating moment when a Trent Rivers gets me a 72, but when a Jack McRae just can't crack a ton. It's just the most frustrating type of player to own.
00:14:15
Speaker
The only thing that might potentially save us with that, Dossie, is that's back-to-back games now, 40% CBAs, he's well and truly out, so if he does get forward status come round 12, maybe we can swing him forward, but you're right, he just seems to have a ceiling of about 90-95 at the moment, which is not someone that we really needed to pay up for at the start of the year, so it really hurts now.
00:14:37
Speaker
It's just sad to watch, you know, Dunkley gone and everything kind of pointed the right way. And obviously Bont's just taken a big step up and probably still continue to be a great pick. But yeah, it's been sad days. He's taking a big step up as well, hasn't he? He's getting the time in there. Yep. It's just times are changing.
00:14:53
Speaker
It's definitely been one of those years where we've seen kind of some shifts in getting those ball users in the midfield, getting a bit of speed around the ball. It has been one of the years where sometimes we're jumping at shadows in the pre-season about some big changes happening. This year has been one of those big ones. I think it's just been one of those years. All right, hot topics.
00:15:14
Speaker
Not heaps of hot topics this week, I will say. I think we kind of just touched on one of the hot topics that I want to talk about, and that's the hot suns. Holmes, you mentioned that they're a tougher matchup. We've already mentioned about probably the last couple of weeks about their game plan. Same's real now. And I just wanted to say, which players should we target out of the many that are available at hand? We've got Noah Anderson. Atkins still available with a negative break even. Braden Ferreni's still there if you don't own him.
00:15:43
Speaker
And even a willpower seems to be just racking up, getting the kick-ins with Lockie Weller moved onto a wing and even not playing last week. So let's just, I guess, talk about this quickly as a team, figure out who's the options here and who we have some genuine interest in. Harmony, have you got any thoughts, mate? Yeah, yeah, I do. Well, I watched a fair bit of that game. It's quite good to watch, actually, because it's a classic sort of thing.
00:16:10
Speaker
Oh, well, if you, if you had the money, would you go Anderson at the moment? I mean, he's probably still got a, he's probably still got a bit of upside from where he is. He's looking awesome. Like, he's their number one man. But, uh, look, I brought in Feorene, the goat, um, last week and I would have got him the week before. And I said, it's a bit of a divide in the pod pod group at the moment, because Dossie, myself, I think it was Louis, uh, I've all jumped on the goat.
00:16:37
Speaker
But Holmsey and Stado have gone a different direction to us. Broken, broken suit. I was looking at a Hami. I did have some Feorini trade plans last week and it actually would have been Liam Stockett of Feorini. So if I'd have done that, I probably wouldn't have rocked up today. So pretty happy to go Atkins in the end, knowing full well that he probably gets dropped this week.
00:17:01
Speaker
Yeah, the Atkins move was a decent play last week for someone in my position that didn't have a heap of cash and needed to swap around a few rookies on the bench. So I actually went Fergus Green to Atkins, which was, it's very good for me after what Fergus Green put up on the weekend. So I can't actually be too upset to be honest. I actually nailed my trades and got all of the poor rookie scores off the ground. I just couldn't have a 150, which didn't help. So do you think Atkins is still a play at 450K?
00:17:30
Speaker
Yeah, I do. So I was looking at Atkins last week too, but I mean, after that hundred, I thought, Jesus, that just went out of the bag for him. But he was taking kick-ins and man, they actually looked for him. Like they went backwards in play to kick it to Rory Atkins. I could not believe what I was seeing from the sun. So maybe he does have a few weeks left in him.
Unique Player Behaviors and Role Evaluations
00:17:53
Speaker
So look,
00:17:54
Speaker
What is he, $4.47 now? I have been looking at him in my trade plans to think, look, he's still going to make cash off him and you would do, I think, if he could hold his spot. And if he could hold out people like Guy Farrar and Charlie Constable, all these big names knocking down the door in the fifth hole.
00:18:12
Speaker
Yeah, was that a dig at Charlie? I don't know, man. Hey, Tommy, did you hear that Matt Rao had probably the single greatest game of AFL football of his career on the weekend for a 76? Did you hear that?
00:18:27
Speaker
I was watching the game, the commentary was going off about how great he's gone and I couldn't agree more. I was like, he's playing a blinder. Just go down, refresh. 50, 52, 53.
00:18:43
Speaker
I mean, it's just so, look back at the end of the day, he's had 18 touches, yes, but 11 clearances, like he did play an unbelievable game. And I got to say, he's earned at least another like six to eight weeks in my team after that footage of the grass.
00:18:59
Speaker
I merged him munching on the grass. Oh my goodness. That is some quite like, he is an unreal unit. That is some strange behavior, but I, I love every bit of it. And, uh, Maddie Rau just, you know, he's in my team. Yes, but he's got my heart as well. Can we talk about the goat? Can we, can we talk about this lack of CBA role is, is this a concern? So someone's coming off the wheel.
00:19:29
Speaker
Someone is leaving the wing roll when Weller's back. Okay, that's fair. Can I say Stata, or even, sorry, Hami, because I know you watch the game quite closely. Is it an Errol Goulden type where it's 0% CBAs, but that wing roll is allowing him to just hunt the footy at the stoppage around the ground, or is it different?
00:19:54
Speaker
He did stay out on the wing a fair bit, so it wasn't quite their all-golden thing. But the thing is, because they were chipping it around, they would sort of go around that 50 arc and out to the wing. So he was still getting a few mark kicks. And look, the guy just finds the pill. So I've got no real concern. I think he's going to have more time on ground and he's going to have a reliable spot in the 22. So I think he's still a fair play. There's a couple of things we didn't talk about. We didn't talk about Powell, who I think is
00:20:25
Speaker
He is one that will hold his spot, does have a reliable role in the team and we have seen him can be a scorer in the past. So yeah, just played that one. But with the Weller coming back, I think it's here, Rory Atkins, who's more vulnerable because Weller has looked at his best dishie in the back line from my perspective, but I'm not sure he do.
00:20:50
Speaker
And just a closing thought, I do wonder, you mentioned him at the top and he's probably the most relevant in terms of just pure point scoring business. Noah Anderson, I wonder if he's the guy this year. Obviously, whilst Took's out there, I wonder if he's the guy that, you know, we see guys go on runs. We're already seeing it right now with him. Is it not just too late to jump on a guy that's going at a massive clip? Could he be the lead of last year? Could he be the brochure or the early brochure of that time when
00:21:18
Speaker
he goes at 120 for a solid six weeks and you really do get that jump on the competition. Homsey, have you got any thoughts on Anderson being that guy?
00:21:27
Speaker
Yep, he absolutely could be Dos. He's the type of player I never really get on at this time of year and he's the type that always really burns me because you just think he's essentially fully priced and he just goes on a run so you can't knock what he's doing. He's been absolutely sensational and a clear missed pick when he dropped .380s in a row to start the year. He's the type you need to jump on because we know he's a gun. For some reason he just started slow and it's definitely something I'm going to try and remember for next year.
00:21:54
Speaker
All right, I just want to touch on this hot topic. We nearly had to deal with it last week with a Shawnee Darcy for a second there. There was an injury cloud. Didn't ever come to fruition. Rowan Marshall with the ankle. Look, we're touching on this at the very beginning of the week. I just want a very quick answer. Which way do you go if you've got one of these guys and they do happen to go down with an injury or we have to have a forced trade? Who's the next guy out of when you have to get rid of one of these guys, if we ever do this season, Holmsey?
00:22:23
Speaker
For me, I just think I'll bite the bullet and go up to English if I don't have him, if I'm a Darcy owner. But thinking outside the box, I actually wouldn't mind making a bit of money and going down to Max Gorn, knowing that he's got forward status on the cards.
00:22:39
Speaker
And if that stays, he's going to be a top six forward in that role. And who knows, towards the end of the year, he might find himself back in the midfield a little bit more than what he has been. So I do like that play, but if you've got Marshall in English, you're set. You don't have to worry about anything, do you?
00:22:55
Speaker
It's interesting that this is part of the luck of the game. So every player I've had this year that rumours are that they're injured, they've effectively been injured, or their score go down, or the LDU was laid out twice, for example.
00:23:15
Speaker
Zebel going into the weekend, I'm just looking at everyone's benches and seeing 37s, 45s and 6s available in the emergency spot and Jay-Z's being, you know, talked about being out all week. Clayton Oliver had a flu, Rory Ladd's basically gonna miss the last month.
00:23:37
Speaker
And they're all just keep on smashing it out. So I don't go into these people because talk is there. It's like you wouldn't grab Sean Darcy last week because all the talk was he was doing a fitness test during training. But hey, fortune goes to the brave.
00:23:56
Speaker
Did you watch that North Melbourne game? No, no, no, I was watching the other game. You watched it, you watched it. How is what he did on the weekend any different to what Aaron Hall was doing? Like the big narrative.
00:24:13
Speaker
It's just that he did it without another guy racking up back there as well. Yeah, it's unbelievable filth back there. It was the most fantasy-friendly game you can possibly ask for. I think Jaden Papowski pulled out there the fastest to a ton in the history, wasn't it, of recorded fantasy, I think. He got to the ton the quickest. So yeah, I hope that starts right. But go check Jaden's Twitter, if not.
00:24:40
Speaker
All right, the final hot topic I've had, and we're going to touch on it a bit later, just CBA shake-ups. I think this time of year is really a time to watch where coaches are going to be leaning. And we've just seen one recently with Setterfield moving out. We've touched on it before. And it's this time of year where coaches that think their team still has a chance at making finals, or maybe are starting to realize they have no chance.
00:25:06
Speaker
there's some center bounce mix ups. I'm talking about it. I've been talking about it for a couple of weeks, but we will touch on some center bounce changes later
Round Table Observations and Upcoming Strategies
00:25:13
Speaker
in the show. First of all, though, I want to get to one of my favorite segments, of course, the observations and our round table discussion. Who wants to kick us off with what they're looking for this round or what they've observed?
00:25:25
Speaker
I'll start, mate. It's bi-planning time. We're not long away at all. Now, this shouldn't control all your decisions when you're training, but you need to keep it in your mind. You need to start having that situation, especially if you're in the hunt or you want to do a bit of a catch-up on a mate.
00:25:44
Speaker
planning this well can really catapult you. And the main aim through those four weeks is to make sure you roll out with a completed team, something you're happy with that you can just do luxury. So be careful you don't get a bit too crazy during the buys, but the best way not to be crazy is have a really good structure. Love that stato. Anyone else got a got an observation to talk about? Yeah.
00:26:14
Speaker
Something else with the, so I've been doing a little bit of it myself today, actually, that Stado mentions there. Something, another part of it is making a list of the primos that you feel are dropping in value a bit for one reason or another, and making a list of when you think you may trade them in. So that's also part of your buy planning is, yep, the people that you want to trade out.
00:26:40
Speaker
the num, making sure you have enough numbers throughout the course of that four-week period, but also trading in the people you feel are going to bounce and put up a better second half of the season. Beautiful. I think I had one more. Oh, no, I've already talked about it. It was just Matty Rau and my love for that moment eating the grass, so I already talked about that. Holmsey, did you have anything to add, mate?
00:27:07
Speaker
Uh, not specifically for, for the comp, but I'm going to throw something to you, Dossie, because my season is absolutely in the toilet. And it was about this time, it was about this time last year when Stado, um, threw a bit of bad luck as well. Also was in this and he threw out the challenge, the Stado versus Dossie. So I reckon from here on out, mate.
00:27:28
Speaker
It's Holmsey versus Dossie. I'm not proud to say that I'm back here with you, but I reckon we have something on this and we see who can finish on top at the end of the season because my motivation for the season is quickly falling, mate. I need something there. So what do you reckon?
00:27:42
Speaker
You really want me to go back-to-back in this challenge to take Chucky's last year off state? I still haven't got the... What was it? The carton still hasn't arrived. Well, we're going double or nothing this year. That was actually a discussion. Holmesy, despite his crap season, don't you still have an 8K rank advantage on me or something? No, not anymore, mate. I've slid back to about 16.
00:28:10
Speaker
Yeah, I would like to say though, picked up Tukmila just before his injury. I'm sure he wouldn't have feasted these last three weeks with this new Gold Coast game plan changer, you know? So rough. Yeah, go on. Go on, homie. Let's do it. I'll take you to your cleaners, mate.
00:28:26
Speaker
Do it mate, you're on. Now, to be fair, Dossy, to be fair, Dossy, Holmes, he had a 14 round one with a Stewart going down with an injury. It took as his captain at 48 going down with injury. You? Just your trades. I had a Bose 10, thank you. I had a premium Uber premium Jack Bose. What were you doing with Bose instead of Dawson?
Listener Requests and Player Prospects
00:28:54
Speaker
move on, move on mate. It's time for CBA trends brought to you by the keeper league pod. Of course you can check out all the center bounce attendance numbers, kick-ins, drafty numbers, also the state league fantasy numbers as well, which we can see who might be coming into the team for our rookie options as well.
00:29:14
Speaker
Head to keepaligpod.com.au and use the code PODPOD at sign up for 20% off their yearly memberships. The link will be in the podcast description and this segment's called I Diddle Diddle. Straight through the I Diddle Diddle!
00:29:29
Speaker
I mentioned it before in terms of players and teams changing that center bounce mix. I think there's quite a few that we can look at in recent weeks that may be targets or that may be changing roles around the ground as well, which can really open up other roles.
00:29:47
Speaker
For instance, there'll be a few players that I'll be talking about here that are pretty juicy. So first of all, Callum Mills this round Buzz Lightyear over here, Darcy, he picked it up early. It was clear with Robbie Fox coming back in the team that he's not going to have to play as much defensive unit.
00:30:03
Speaker
He went 27% more than his season average this week in the centre-bounce attendance mix. He was clearly in the midfield. Just a quick thought on Callamills. Is everyone okay? He's super cheap for what we know he can do, Hami. Yeah, he sure is. I've been sort of mentioning him last couple of weeks actually, but yeah, 803,000 a year. He just put out his return on the weekend.
00:30:27
Speaker
And he's 180,000 down for the year. So that's an indication of the sort of value you're picking up if you're buying him at the moment. Just another, I noticed like, what do you get about 45% CBAs, I think on the weekend. Luke Parker also had a look at, because I think it's like one of the trades. 95% I think. Yeah, 95%. I mean, the guy is just in there all the time.
00:30:53
Speaker
If you think the swans are going to improve a bit from a fantasy perspective, I think Park is going to be in the middle of it. And he's also down for the season 104,000.
00:31:02
Speaker
paying just a bit below Mills as 767,000 for Parker. Yep. So, Mills was up at 63% this round. Obviously, a tough matchup that they wanted to win against the Pies as well. So, potentially, they do mix it up a bit. I know Row Bottom was out more. They limited, obviously, Goulden, we mentioned, had zero. He was out on the wing purely. But, yeah, clearly a direction to get Mills and, obviously, Parker, the veteran bodies in there this week.
00:31:30
Speaker
Definitely some nice targets though for the Swans. A couple of other ones I want to talk about. We've talked about how Sinclair and Jane Short both have kind of been using that halfback roller again early this year but then Short this week was straight back into the inside mix as has Jack Sinclair been the last couple of weeks now.
00:31:49
Speaker
It's not necessarily great for them. I think they tend to score. Well, Sinclair is pretty similar in both roles, but Short definitely performs far better in his half-back role as opposed to the inside. But it also just opens up roles. So we saw at Richmond the start of this year.
00:32:05
Speaker
Rioli getting a plenty of the pill without short in the side at all and then with short playing in that half back line He sort of tape it away. But with Sinclair out there's a couple that listeners are keen to know about as well with with a Wanganeen Miller and your boy homesy Stalker back there just racking up with a bit a bit less Sinclair in the side is Is any of the center bounce mix here or the lack of interesting with these two players? homesy
00:32:32
Speaker
I'll start by saying it's an absolute no on Liam Stocker. Every week he's a nervous own and he's pumped out one out of the box, but against North Melbourne, so you're just not touching that. I'm only going to hold him for another week or two just to absolutely milk whatever cash I can from him, but you just wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to that 60 average that he's been doing over the last month.
00:32:54
Speaker
Wangany Miller, he is an interesting one. He's definitely put up some pretty big scores this year and they definitely look for him and if Sinclair is going to be that 60% CBA guy, then there's clearly going to be a lot of ball back there for him. But I think that you made a good point, Dossie, with the teams like Richmond and St Kewter, is that they just fling guys around left, right and centre and when you're picking these players in classic, you need to know their role is secure.
00:33:18
Speaker
And every week it's up and down, it's changing. So I just don't think you could trade into these guys. I think they're sort of draft players only. Would you agree, Stado? Yes, totally.
00:33:28
Speaker
All right. Well, speaking of probably draft players, then, um, I just want to talk about a few more changes. Liam Duggan has suddenly become more of a midfielder. David Swallow, obviously taking the two, two Miller minutes, Caleb Daniel, and lastly, Jake Stringer, all getting some more usage. Stado draft only or draft only. Okay. All right. Uh, just one other player that had more than 90% center bounces on the weekend, apart from Luke Parker, LDU, um, despite his score. So.
00:33:58
Speaker
Is he still on the monitor, Stado? No, I have no idea what happened there. The first two weeks, mate, we were dancing in the streets. We were going, we got the best pick, 117.5 after two rounds. Killing it has been a disaster ever since. It's just north, isn't it? Sink was in the midfield on the weekend and put up a putrid score. They are not going to be good, are they?
00:34:28
Speaker
Yeah, probably right. Their match-ups were soft the first two weeks. Okay, and we're getting into our listener request now, and we might as well just start with one of the big ones still. It's Will Setterfield, we've mentioned him a couple of times, but he had zero centre-bouncer tendencies, so as a nice little segue, here he was playing a pure wing roll, and then he even slid back when Jordan Ridley went down with that injury stato, the bullet U. So,
00:34:55
Speaker
Delicately avoided there. Um, is here guy that we trade out now harmi given that he's lost the role and he's still got some coin on his head a high break even Yeah, look, I think I was um have to say I was wrong last week in saying that we hold him because I felt like he still was going to have a role in that cba and he has zero so I think that's that's now the the um catalyst for me to move him on trying to try to move on this week
00:35:24
Speaker
I just might have to hold him to the buy. I just don't see how my team's going to be improving with him going out. Like, I don't know. That's the thing. Like, I mean, if you can get him out to a meals or even like imagine if you got him at the brochure, you'd be pretty happy with that when you.
00:35:42
Speaker
The question is, he's never been the same ever since he had that clash knock. Whatever it was, we was questionable whether he was going to play on the week. They were monitoring him. Yeah, they're resting him through the week basically. I think he even had some sessions off. He's actually never been the same.
00:36:09
Speaker
I just think it's funny though, people trade in your mouth and I think the, the method might've actually, I mean, it was right in that he wasn't scoring and Stringer was in there. So he was playing defensive, but you know, I don't think anyone would have thought he'd lose his center bounces completely this week. So.
00:36:25
Speaker
a bit of luck as well involved I think in that in trading him out in terms of the low score not being result of him kind of the reason that you got rid of him in the first place is what I mean. But also understand that both Stringer and Hobbs weren't in the team when he was getting bulk CBAs.
00:36:44
Speaker
Fair, fair. All right, we're getting into our major part of the show now with our listener requests, which we love. Thanks for sending them through at podpodafl on Twitter. We put out the tweet. You guys always send in a stack of names for us to talk about, some of which we've already talked about tonight and we'll just skip over the ones we have talked about, such as Braden Feirani and Luke Parker. We've touched on them already, but Zach Merritt-Homesy,
00:37:10
Speaker
putting up some very nice numbers and getting those midfield minutes, unlike a set of field interest in him. Yeah, absolutely mate. Top eight mid. I'm very confident that he'll be a top eight mid for the rest of the year. Not sure why he only had 30 odd percent CBAs last week. I think there was a bit of word that maybe they were putting a bit of time into him with Mark O'Connor. So maybe they were just getting him around the ground a little bit, but yeah, I'm sure he'll be a top eight mid. He's one of their best players and yeah, I do like the pick.
00:37:39
Speaker
Jack Steele, Stado, a lot of coaches might have thought to bring in last week, or I saw a few in the content sort of creator space bringing in Jack Steele. I know a few of the Hat Chat boys definitely did. Wanting that sugar hit, unfortunately, didn't get it with an 85 up against what you would have considered to be a soft matchup in North Melbourne. But is he still a target? He's got three games. He's got the Crows, GWS, Hawks, then his buy. Could you still get that sugar in the next few games?
00:38:06
Speaker
I look you could, but I will say this is the time of year where I don't jump into first round buys and considering that we've got four this year, four rounds of buys, it's even more incentive not to. So why pick a player that's only playing three out of the next four weeks basically. So he's the type that
00:38:31
Speaker
human mills looking at closely to be players that come in round 13 fair enough it's always feels criminal to be paying 100k extra for steel over mills when the last year they were kind of fairly similar um output if memory serves but as well okay sam docketty harmi
00:38:55
Speaker
In the midfield mix at Carlton, and just going back to Doketty ways of just pumping out massive scores, I do see this week he's got that juicy Western Bulldogs matchup at Marvel. But then Carlton have a pretty tough schedule after that for a few weeks. You've got the Pies, and they've got Sydney at the SCG, followed by Melbourne. Is Doketty a target now, or when do we bring him back? John wants to know that on Twitter. Yeah, I'll just hold fire a little bit on Doketty.
00:39:22
Speaker
You don't need to just recently come back and put up a big score, 129, I mean, far out. But anybody who's 900,000 and above, you'd have to be really confident in them. And I'm just not quite at that point with Doherty at the moment.
00:39:37
Speaker
OK, a bit of a point of difference this year, though. How many own him? 26% own. OK, take that back. Jack Sinclair, though, homesy. We mentioned how maybe a Nassau, Wanganeen, Miller, and even Stocker, who you said definitely avoid both doing better without Jack Sinclair back there. But Sinclair, is he still an option? And taking into account, Stado, what he's just said about round 12 buy, though.
00:40:02
Speaker
Yeah, I think he is. I'm not 100% sure that he's going to be a top six defender. We've got some pretty good defensive options this year. And like I said before, that rolls kind of up and down.
00:40:16
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I don't know. You know, 63% CBAs on the weekend, you would have thought that would have led to a bit of a bump in scoring against North Melbourne, but would he put up a 60-odd or a 70? I can't really have... 79. Okay, 79. So not as bad, but not something you want from someone you're paying up 850K for. So I'd potentially hold fire on that Sinclair one if I was being honest. I think he's about what he is at the moment, so there's no rush to have to get him in.
00:40:42
Speaker
Adam Cherr. Look, buzzers would have gone at him maybe a week or two ago, Stado, but anyone looking to bring in Cherr at the moment? Three 130s in a row. Honestly, though, as watching on, he's looking fantastic and playing some unbelievable footy, getting center bounces. Interest, Stado, in Adam Cherr, averaging 102 for the season now, 101 and a half. Yeah, it's amazing. I've sort of been on this boy. Your boy. Yeah, been on this boy for a couple of years.
00:41:12
Speaker
It's never really paid off in the last three weeks. He's blitzed it. I like his buy around 15 is great. He's on the move. I don't know how expensive he is now.
00:41:27
Speaker
So he's up 90k. He's got Western Bulldogs, which is a really good matchup. But as you mentioned before when talking docks, then they've got a couple of tough ones. But the overall run until the buy is looking pretty good, includes Esslyn Melbourne, which is a good matchup for midfielders.
00:41:49
Speaker
Western Bulldogs. Look, I think he's a play, but the right play was when Buzz got on him two weeks ago. What made you go for him, Buzz?
00:42:01
Speaker
Actually, it's been similar to what I was saying in terms of system, in terms of getting offset a field. What I just meant then is that everyone jumped off him because he kind of lost the disposal role, but then he completely lost his center bounce role. So it wasn't, the system kind of wasn't the same as what you'd expected. With the chair one, it was similar. I expected him, they tightened up their center bounce mix the week before I got him. So they went down to four man rotation. He was getting bulks and bounces.
00:42:29
Speaker
And then the week after they kind of split that up more, but he still managed to score well. So I actually got him because I thought he was going to be just a pure inside mid. You've made 80 grand out of you. Yeah, it's been an unbelievable trade.
00:42:45
Speaker
Dossie, can I just ask, with Colton losing three out of their last four, getting absolutely crucified by the media, and Matt Kennedy coming on in that last quarter and being absolutely sensational for them as the sub, is there a danger for someone trying to trade into chair now that that midfield mix could be changed again?
00:43:03
Speaker
It's tough, given his price now, and having, I guess, a tougher matchup with Brisbane. Just the way he's playing, though. It looks, I don't know, just like a much better player than I've ever seen, Cher. Like, I'm looking at him, and I'm not afraid watching him. He's not one of my players, like McCray, where I'm sort of nervous at the moment. But who knows? You're right in the sense that, yes, Kennedy had an unbelievable blitz in the last quarter. But I feel like he's more likely to take someone like a Hewitt's role, who I just don't see it.
00:43:32
Speaker
That's what I was going to say. He's a bit different to those other players. Like if you think about Kennedy, Crips, Hewitt, Ed Kurnow, they're all that sort of bigger body, bit slower, bit more defensive kind of
00:43:47
Speaker
He's a bit more zippy, so he shouldn't really hold his spot, but he knows. Yep. And that seems to be what Voss has done too. He's wanted Cherra or Walsh at like one or the other at every cent of ounce, basically. So that's kind of, yeah, I think they do need that kind of mix, like you're saying there, Hami. It's a big price to pay though, Holmesy, to answer your question. What's the final verdict on Will Powell and Rory Atkins and Stado? Are they targets for you?
00:44:15
Speaker
Absolutely. Their buy is great. Their break even is great. Their price range is great. Obviously, I think Willpower is a real target. And I think Rory Atkins is a great short-term option. If he continues to get selected, he's going to make you a lot of cash.
00:44:36
Speaker
the roles great. I will say Rory's performance in round seven just caught my eye. It was so impressive, not as impressive on the weekend, but not disgraceful either. And they got West Coast this week too, so they could put up another decent round.
00:44:58
Speaker
I got to say Will Pao scares me a bit because I've owned him in draft before and he does these 120s and he's had this actual role a couple of years ago before he went down with his injury. He had this role and he's prone to a monster and then a sort of quieter one. He actually doesn't always play on out of the square as well, which would be frustrating as well as an owner. He doesn't always take that step over. He's not got that fantasy awareness.
00:45:23
Speaker
Oh, at 650, whatever he's at, I think it's 656 or something like that. That sort of scares me a bit, just a bit of a flag. Will Ashcroft, is it time to sell, Hami? No, wouldn't have thought so. I don't know. I mean, you could do, you could go early as a point of difference if you're up there, but I'd probably be inclined to hold him at the moment. It was about this time last year that I jumped off Nick Daco. I think they were talking about him needing a rest and
00:45:49
Speaker
But then in the back half of the year, he just killed it. So I'm willing to wait and see on Ashcroft a bit. I mean, last week we put up over 100. I think we get in a bit of recency bias, don't we? Thinking he only got 60 on the weekend. But if you look at the season he's had today, I mean, he's still got a bit to go, I reckon. I think just one little flag that the coach talked about arrest after the game.
00:46:12
Speaker
Oh, okay. Is that what you were going to say too? Well, I was just going to say for, for teams up the top. Um, I actually would look to jump off him at some point soon. Maybe it is by, he's got that first buy around. Um, it could be a good leg up. Selby always talks about that play that he jumped off Tim Kelly early. And it didn't matter that Tim Kelly put up nineties because the guy that he got to was putting up one 10. So, um, the difference with day cost last year being that he could fling him into defense. So he's
00:46:41
Speaker
putting up close to top six defensive numbers, but Will Ashcroft isn't going to be a top eight mid. So the sooner you can complete your midfield, the better. Interesting. Two different, yeah, two different solid perspectives. I think both could, could potentially pay off. It really just depends how, how well Ashcroft performs. And like you said, state off, he gets a rest that could probably just dictate it for you. Errol Goulden. So listener, Taser, he's faded him at the start of the season, was pretty upset to see the 160 dropped on his head on the weekend.
00:47:11
Speaker
Holmsey, is it too late to jump on Errol Goulden after, as we said, the thirst that we've seen on display, especially this past weekend?
00:47:22
Speaker
I can't see how you would pay $830,000 for Errol Goulden when you've got Callum Mills at $800,000. I think Mills would be the one I would be targeting if I didn't have either of those boys. Before the 160 on the weekend, he hadn't been, you know, he'd been performing well. He wasn't putting up top six numbers, but he was pretty close. So he was at one out of the box, I don't know. If that game style for Sydney is real, then he could put up a lot of scores similar to that.
00:47:49
Speaker
I don't know if I've added much there, but yeah, I'd look at Mills before Gordon, but I'm seeing them terribly. So do the opposite of what I've said. You'd be training in, right? So you'd have to be choosing Gordon over all the other players that are at or below his price.
Rookie Targets and Strategic Advice
00:48:06
Speaker
So Gordon, so you're taking him at 8.32. You're taking him over Zebel, taking him over Bailey Smith, Jack McRae, Lockie Neal, Callum Mills, Sicily. So I guess.
00:48:19
Speaker
I'm just making the point, Stuart, will day. There's some pretty good players below that price that may present better value than Gordon, if you're looking to trade into him. Just on Jack's Abel, too late now. I mean, I've just, I've had a friend already message me this week saying they're bringing him in. I'm like, I think you've missed it now, but without Aaron Hall, Holmsey, you said it before. Is he just going to have this license and is it just ignorant not to, not to take a look at it? And he's still kind of affordable to bring in.
00:48:50
Speaker
I know Louis got on him, I think, four weeks ago and he earmarked that St Kilda matchup. So you're not going to get that St Kilda matchup now, trading into him. Before that matchup, he'd been good, but he'd kind of dropped back to that sort of 85 to 95 without having the ceiling. So if you trade into him now, you're not going to get that ceiling. So you may as well wait a little bit and come the buyers after. If you're still putting up scores, then you might have to look at it. But I think for now, you hunt value around his price and see how it plays out.
00:49:21
Speaker
Stado, Dan Houston, you pegged him as an option maybe a few weeks ago, but are you still keen on him? Three weeks ago, I pegged him. He's averaged 98 over those three weeks. Yeah, a little bit different. Still some good matchups to come, mate. Still plenty of teams to come in the defensive matchup. Yeah, but he was down 100K on last year, although last year was a career high. So I was mindful of that.
00:49:49
Speaker
He's already gone up another 60k since that time, unfortunately. So there's not a lot of value left in him. But yes, he's still got a good run. But as we know, he is capable of giving you a few seventies on the trot as well. So when he was discounted, he was an option. I don't think he's a serious one now. And only because I don't think he's going to be a top sixer.
00:50:15
Speaker
Bailey Smith, Bazalenka, he's got the forward status, Hami, he's down 120k on his price last year. He popped a ton for us on the weekend, 105 his second ton of the year. He's got Carlton, Crows, Gold Coast, Geelong Port and North before his buy. Treloar's out, he's still not playing in the midfield, but he's playing that high half forward role that he dominated in to start last year. Could you go a Bazalenka at this stage?
00:50:42
Speaker
Yeah, he definitely could. You said that he scored 105 on the weekend, but his price also went up on the weekend. So he's now headed in the other direction. He's not dropping cash anymore. So, yeah, I'm interested in him. All right. A few looser options from our listeners now. John Noble, Honzy. Is he a player you could consider in AFL fantasy classic?
00:51:05
Speaker
Got him off the waivers in draft about four weeks ago, and he's gone on a run ever since. He's been a very good draft player, but I'm not sure he's going to be a top six defender, especially with your boy Nick Daikos around there commanding so much of the pill.
00:51:19
Speaker
Now, a non-biased, non-owner, Brad Crouch, let's talk about maybe some concerns from owners who, this is someone from Twitter saying, do we offload or trust our premium state? I want your opinion and maybe you can be answering this who might be Homesies Burner asking this one, I think.
00:51:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's a tough one because I think he should be scoring a hell of a lot better than this. I remember the first week Holmes, he got him and he was 24 and a half time, but it didn't end up scoring 120. I can't explain it. I don't know if he's carrying something. I haven't looked closely at the game style. He's an absolute magnet and Ross likes him, so I don't understand what's going on.
00:52:05
Speaker
Matt Kennedy, someone's flagged here. I mean, was it you? Who said before that he could maybe come in and take that role? Could we look at him as a target in the next coming weeks once he's obviously dropped this cash? If he becomes a regular player in there, 664K, he dropped 61 points in a quarter, I think it was last round. Who wants to have some Matt Kennedy in their team if he drops the coin?
00:52:30
Speaker
Look, we are the popcorn. No, I'm interested. Yeah. If he starts getting a regular game and he drops another 50 grand or whatever, he's going to be 600,000. You'll get a rookie team easily. So yeah, I'm sort of watching him at the minute.
00:52:46
Speaker
Yeah, you might be able to straight swap from an Ashcroft by next week as well. All right, that'll do it for our listener request. Thanks for getting those in. Follow us at podpodafl on Twitter for all your requests when we post those out every week. Let's get to the Fossils 5.
00:53:17
Speaker
Yeah, I'll go through it quickly. We've gone a bit long recording lights and number one best rookie is Blake Dury. 221 solid score of 53. Most pundits are saying a pretty good debut game.
00:53:32
Speaker
Number two, probably the main target, although I will say around 12 buys. So you should only do it if you really seen in that buy. And that's Callum Mills, just the change of roll going back to the midfield and the price deduction that he's had.
00:53:51
Speaker
I think it's about $178k drop in price and he's only $803k. Bailey Smith, really good buy, it's the last one, so you get plenty of time. $815k, he's dropped a bit of coin.
00:54:08
Speaker
Willpower, I really like the game plan and his role at 656. So if you can't get up to those premium levels, two rookies can get your willpower, I think that's a tick in the box. And we've talked about this before, it's the risky one is Royal Reactkins with a minus break even at 447K.
00:54:35
Speaker
Selfish question. Is Chincotta still a target if you're one of the only coaches that hasn't got him still? Yes. Still, would he be in your top five if he wasn't an obvious one already? Yeah, I think all listeners, except for Stado and Dossi,
00:54:54
Speaker
You're a non-owner as well. Yeah, so he's actually in this week with his Western Bulldog, which will only be one week on the field, but great matchup. You got Newman outs. So yeah, he'll play this week. He looked good and it was probably the first time I could have a real close eye test on him and he certainly passed.
00:55:17
Speaker
Yes, and congratulations as well to someone out there on Twitter who identified the correct theme song for the Fossils Five being from the 90s children's television show, I suppose you'd call it, Walking with Dinosaurs, the old school documentary where they did the CGI graphics, real old school stuff.
Conclusion and Future Challenges
00:55:39
Speaker
Stato, you would have been a fan of that, wouldn't you?
00:55:41
Speaker
No. No, a bit too late. That was a bit too modern for you, that one in the 90s. All right, that'll do it. We'll wrap it up there. Good luck with your team structures this week and start planning for the buzz as Stado has suggested.
00:55:58
Speaker
You know, look for that next light year pick. I didn't provide any this week, but I'll no doubt bring in another fantastic trade myself. Looking out at Noah Anderson, I think, boys, paying up the big coins, getting on the guy that can actually rise me back up and beat Holmsey for this carton that he will probably not pay up as well, just like Stacey. All right, we'll see you next week.