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This week, the lads are celebrating 150 episodes of the PODPOD by bringing back the man that started it all. He has been known by many names over the years including but not limited to Buzz Dossyear, Dosby Lee-Steere and Dossy. That’s right, Murdoch has given him a free pass as long as he hits his SuperCoach mentions quota. Fresh from tracking long effective kicks, contested possessions and spoils, Dossy makes his long anticipated return.
On this episode Holmesy, Lewy, Harmey, Sam and Dosby review the first round of the multi-bye rounds, where many coaches found themselves hurting with only 18 or 19 players on field. They talk general bye strategy, look at players to target off the bye and answer a stack of listener questions. This one was fun!
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Transcript
Introduction and First Buy Round Review
00:00:00
Sam
Thank
00:00:18
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL Fantasy Classic for you on this Monday, 2nd of June. We've had the first buy round, been and gone.
00:00:29
Holmesy
There's been a few ah horror stories with rookies on field and and scores that we'd hoped would drop off, but unfortunately found their way into our best 18.
Meet the Panel and Special Guest
00:00:38
Holmesy
We're here to review the round. We have a full panel on deck plus a special guest, which we'll get to. But as always, we have two-time top 10 finisher and runner-up in 2019, John Harmy with us.
00:00:51
Holmesy
Harmy, mate, how you going?
00:00:52
Jon Harmey
Hey, Hamzy. Yeah, no, look, not going too bad. Apart from my fantasy side, which is going terribly based on all the the players that like to get subbed out. And yeah, but no, going well. Looking forward to the chat.
00:01:07
Holmesy
Very good. And we do have Sam with us today, which means one thing and one thing only.
Excitement Over Meeting Dossie
00:01:13
Holmesy
He's had a ranking rise and he's showing his face on the podcast. Sam, is this is this correct?
00:01:19
Sam
Oh, it's correct, but I wouldn't have missed this one for the world. Chance to meet one of my yeah bucket list ah podcasters in Dossie. Wow, what an opportunity.
00:01:29
Sam
I'm starstruck.
00:01:32
Holmesy
ah Don't just ah just give it away straight off the bat, Sam. Appreciate that. But... ah All good and
00:01:37
Sam
Oh, no.
00:01:38
Lew
Well, should we get to our guest?
00:01:40
Holmesy
yeah yeah, well, you can hear Louie in the background, perennial top 1K finisher. Louie, off the back of another good week, how you are how you going?
00:01:50
Lew
Yes, good, mate. Yep. um Yep. Had a decent week this week. So quite happy.
00:01:56
Holmesy
Beautiful. and And before we get to our special guest, I do just have a message from our sponsor of the show. um Why bother with simplicity when you can enjoy the thrilling complexity of Supercoach, where spreadsheets and stress are part of the fun, marvel at scoring that rewards real football so well even the players don't understand it With Supercoach, you'll finally get the joy of watching your game while frantically refreshing for scaling points that may or may not come.
00:02:22
Holmesy
It's not just fantasy. It's a full-time job minus the pay. Dossy boy, how are you?
00:02:27
Dosby
Wow, they'll they'll be happy I jumped on now with that glowing endorsement there, Holmesy. Thanks for that, mate. No, good to be on. um Been a while. you've ah You've gone all right without me, I guess, I suppose. I'll give you that, Holmesy.
00:02:40
Dosby
A little bit more, need a little bit more oomph on that intro. You need to really kick up the and. It's just a little bit flat, mate. So just just a bit of feedback from old Dossy. And the sound the sound, it's been up and down, mate.
00:02:52
Dosby
Get that mic up, Sam. ah Sam needs to work on those mics, but yeah, we're good now.
00:02:55
Lew
The levels are off. The levels are well off.
00:02:56
Dosby
We've been right now. It's been right now.
00:02:59
Holmesy
Yeah, well, look, you did jump over to Supercoach and here at the PodPod, we do have a
150th Episode Celebration and Podcast Journey
00:03:05
Holmesy
question for you. At some point, are you going to get elevated to the host or are you just permanently going to be there the guy producing lurking in the background?
00:03:13
Holmesy
What's going on with that?
00:03:14
Dosby
You're clearly not listening to any of my work. So I am, I would say co-host currently of ah the Phantom's Lair. Well, the Phantom is the host. I'm i'm a co co-host, much like the Harmy of the world. So I'm really stepping into the Harmy role and I'm embracing it, mate.
00:03:29
Dosby
love being just like Harmy, my
00:03:31
Jon Harmey
And I'm also stepping into the dossier role by pushing my ranking out towards 20,000.
00:03:40
Holmesy
Ah, very good, Harmy. No, there was a reason we got you on today, Dossie boy. We know you're not supposed to come on here too often, but it is the 150th episode of the Pod Pod, which in this day and age is a pretty impressive thing. And I did just want you and Louis to kind of reminisce a little bit about the Pod Pod and how you boys started it. I still ah still vividly remember back in 2021, stumbling upon the podcast with just you and Louis and thinking that,
00:04:08
Holmesy
you know it was a pretty special thing that you guys had going. But why don't you just touch on it, Dossie, of how you and Louis got it started?
00:04:14
Dosby
Yeah, so, wow, I can't even lie. It's going back a while now, but...
00:04:18
Lew
Long time ago. ah can remember being in my back room and putting sheets up on the wall and finding clothes and mattresses and and anything just to deaden the um the echo in my back room as we'd sort of record a podcast on ah on a Monday night every week, Dossie.
00:04:19
Dosby
um
00:04:37
Dosby
Yeah, and then we then we did some stuff at my apartment as well. We tried to do it in person as much as we could, both being Adelaide boys, but um eventually that became harder and harder. But yeah, we started with, um think like Hef reached out to us when we were kind of in between shows, I suppose, and then um set that up with the Keeper League sort of to help us out, made up the Pod Pod from there. Yeah, it started out just myself and Lou, then we got Stato to jump on board and then there was a moment where we jumped behind the paywall probably ah a moment we all regretted a little bit because we wanted to can tell we wanted to be out in the masses and um but then yeah we were lucky enough to have yourself Holmesy and Harmy join along the way um and then now we've got some random bloke Sam on the show as well after all after I had to had to make way to for my career so not it's come a long way but yeah it's been a pleasure with
00:05:31
Dosby
Lou and then obviously Stato's also not around these days but great bloke and yeah it's been been awesome yeah so he's dead he's dead to us mate he's
00:05:37
Lew
ah He's still alive, just to let the listeners know.
00:05:39
Jon Harmey
Bye.
00:05:41
Lew
He's still around.
00:05:43
Jon Harmey
ah
00:05:46
Holmesy
Yeah, look, sam Sam's been a ah decent addition to the boys this year. We kind of knew we wanted to go around again, but also knew that we needed someone that could semi-commit, knowing what Louie and Harmy are like in the preseason. So Sam, it was good for him to to jump on and and get involved in his rankings kind of showing. So yeah, 150 episodes, ah really good from the pod pod. And it's good to have you back, even if it is just for a little bit, Dossie boy.
00:06:12
Dosby
No, thanks for reaching out and thanks for having me. Yeah, was happy to be able to come on here. Obviously, just over at Supercoach these days. But, you know, I'm not ah i'm not about the animosity between the codes. I think I love fantasy. I love Supercoach. And I think the community should blend and everyone should also, of course, play Supercoach. So um not a hard game, Holmesy, as you mentioned. Not a hard game to follow. If I can do it, anyone can. And my ranking's actually been better since crossing codes. So if anyone's struggling in fantasy, go play Supercoach as well.
00:06:41
Holmesy
If I clip that up of you saying that you enjoy playing fantasy and it's as good as Supercoach, will get sacked?
00:06:48
Dosby
ah didn't say as good. I didn't say as good. I said there you know they can coexist. Obviously, the number one fancy game in the world is Supercoach. Thank you, Holmesy, for clarifying.
00:06:59
Holmesy
Beautiful. All right, why don't we ah get stuck into the round that was and and let's go through our our scores and
Reviewing Recent AFL Fantasy Round
00:07:05
Holmesy
ranks. So have no idea where Dossie's sitting at the moment, but I will throw to you first, Harmi. How'd you go on the weekend and and where's the rank sitting at the moment?
00:07:12
Jon Harmey
Oh, mate, went terribly on the back of everybody getting subbed out or subbed in, depending on what you wanted. Lawler injury, Reid injury.
00:07:23
Jon Harmey
Garcia not coming back. That one really broke the heart having to trade him out. But my score for the week was 1688. It would have been better if I um had Smith as captain, but...
00:07:34
Jon Harmey
Look, it is what it is. um i' slid down a few ranks, sitting in seven thousand Pretty neat overall. So that's where we're at, Holmesy.
00:07:44
Holmesy
You say you've taken over Dossie's role, Harmony, but I'm not sure Dossie's ever had a rank of 7K.
00:07:52
Holmesy
Until now, I'm hoping.
00:07:53
Jon Harmey
Buzz?
00:07:54
Holmesy
Dossie, where are we at, mate?
00:07:56
Dosby
Throwing to me, ah yeah, look, I'm out beyond 10K. i'm just i' but I think it was the first week I dropped outside 10K as well to come on the show, so perfect timing. are ten 10.3K just scored the 16.66 this week. But you guys do team value. Team value of 23.4 million, so pretty good there, i would say, Hondi.
00:08:22
Holmesy
That was even with the the Caldwell trade-in on Thursday night?
00:08:26
Dosby
Well, let's wait for my, you know, the the next segment, I think. um Come on, mate.
00:08:32
Holmesy
Fair enough. Louis, how'd you go this week?
00:08:35
Lew
Yeah, I had a decent week considering I copped a lot of sub scores, a bit like Army. I had four subs within my 20, so I was a little bit stiff there, but I still managed the 1834, which basically meant that I held par, I think. oh Yeah, I didn't slip, I gained slightly. In fact, I went up two ranks.
00:08:58
Holmesy
So you can let the listeners know, are you currently the unlucky mug if the competition was to stop right now?
00:09:04
Lew
Yeah, yeah, I am. So the last a week I was 97 and then some late adjustments blew me out to 103 and then I was sitting there on Sunday night, I was watching the footy, i didn't have Baz as captain, which which was a hard watch, but knowing i had marriage in homes or i thought i might be okay here and uh then marriage gets subbed and then home sits on the bench for 15 minutes and i've just watched my rank go 92 93 94 oh no it's gonna happen again
Struggles and Humorous Blame Game
00:09:39
Lew
and uh landed with the mug at 101.
00:09:39
Jon Harmey
Lou, you have Boxall?
00:09:40
Lew
no
00:09:43
Lew
no
00:09:44
Jon Harmey
Oh, man. I was doing that on Sunday too, watching Boxall and then never got on the field. And then the last quarter he got on, finally.
00:09:52
Lew
Well, you may as well have been a sub, right?
00:09:52
Jon Harmey
i was like, oh, he got 30 points.
00:09:53
Lew
49%.
00:09:54
Jon Harmey
He would have. Anyway, he was on for about three minutes total that last quarter. Oh,
00:09:59
Dosby
Guys, better than watching Matthias Philippou, so don't give me any of that.
00:10:03
Jon Harmey
yeah. Yeah.
00:10:04
Holmesy
da That is a, that's a classic Dossie peak. Don't ruin your segment, Dossie.
00:10:09
Dosby
Nah, I got some others, don't worry.
00:10:12
Jon Harmey
to
00:10:14
Holmesy
Sam, how'd you go this week?
00:10:16
Sam
ah Yeah, not bad. Just five points better than Lou. So 18-39. i Brought my rank in a little bit, around 20. Sitting at 172. Team value, 23.9. So yeah, just fine. Managed to avoid the the Bison Cleary scores. So that was handy, I think.
00:10:36
Holmesy
Yep, beautiful, going along very well. And Lockie Ash keeps ticking it over. Unfortunately for you, you said the pick ruined your season. But yeah, he just keeps getting it done, Sammy boy. So very, very good.
00:10:48
Holmesy
Before I get into mine, Dossie, for any of our new listeners, can you just explain the Dossie curse? What was the Dossie curse back in the day?
00:10:57
Dosby
Yeah, basically be what any player I picked would go to water the moment you moment I picked him, I think, was was how it sort of went. It was every single time I'd pick him, they'd yeah, they'd go go no good. But I reckon that's turning around after after recent developments.
00:11:13
Holmesy
Well, I want to talk about the Dossie curse that was put on my AFL fantasy career. So pre-pod pod, two hats, runner up, join the pod pod with Dossie, shit house, shit house, shit house.
00:11:20
Dosby
LAUGHTER
00:11:30
Holmesy
Dossie retires, goes over to super coach. I'm currently ranked 107 off the back of a 1914 and we know from here if my season tanks Dossie, there's cause there.
00:11:44
Holmesy
Would you agree?
00:11:45
Dosby
yeah like ever It's like everyone's best season except poor Harmy who's had to take take on the dossie role, as you've said. So, well done, Harmy.
00:11:51
Jon Harmey
but
00:11:53
Dosby
There's got to be one of you.
00:11:55
Holmesy
ah Kick us off Dossie, what is your Stato and your Dossie picks
Fantasy Picks and Humorous Criteria
00:12:00
Holmesy
for the week?
00:12:00
Dosby
Sure, mate. So, my Stato pick this week, which I'm defining as An old bloke that's let me down and often leaves me and ghosts me at the time of need.
00:12:06
Jon Harmey
Oh.
00:12:10
Dosby
So um I'm defining that as my Stato Pick of the Week, and that is James Sicily. i had him for 20 points. Can you believe it?
00:12:18
Lew
but No.
00:12:20
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:12:21
Dosby
His disgraceful display. i've got it Look, I do have a lot of pods, so happy to be on the PodPod, but I do have a stack of pods this year. Haven't really been focused too much on the group thinking, being just back in my gut. But Cicely was one. I thought I was getting him at a cheap price. And like the whole Hawthorne team's just been average intern for their fantasy production. So ah yeah, James Cicely for me, definitely my Stato pick of the week alongside Matthias Philippe, obviously.
00:12:48
Dosby
um But my Dossie pick of the week, which I'm defining as a fantastic Buzz light year Lightyear, Lightyear's Ahead style call, is as you mentioned it before, Holmesy,
00:12:58
Dosby
Jai Caldwell, 128, brought him in this week. My man, i was looking, doing a lot of research for Supercoach around him, and he's even, he's like way cheaper than Supercoach for context. So I was looking at him, and then i went across to Fantasy. I'm like, could I go there as well? He was he was a bit cheaper than Merritt. I was wondering if Merritt would get the attention, and yeah, he's,
00:13:19
Dosby
pumped out of 128 so i brought in him and nick dacos this week the combo for two 128 so despite my terrible score i had lots of um sub affected and gross scores but yeah nick dacos and jai caldwell coming in as the buzz dossier dossie pick of the week
00:13:36
Holmesy
We do know that Buzz is never wrong. He may be early sometimes, but he's never wrong.
00:13:39
Dosby
that's right he's never wrong thanks man are we switching the definitions here boys or
00:13:41
Holmesy
Dossie, well done, mate. Lou, how about your Stato and Dossie picks for the week?
00:13:46
Lew
uh my starter pick of the week um i'll give him a pat on the back here it's shy bolton off the back of a 67 last week um was a little bit flat about that certainly wasn't the conditions for him um last week and look you could probably argue it wasn't the conditions for him the week just previous but uh 102 in the wet against the Suns. Certainly wasn't expecting that.
00:14:12
Lew
um Still not loving this pick, but thankful that so far he's averaging more than what I paid for him. So, um yeah, I'll give him the respect he deserves. A 102 is pretty impressive. And he's got a nice little fixture um after the bye. In fact, the Dockers don't leave Optus Stadium for three weeks. So that might be an interesting one for...
00:14:33
Lew
coaches to consider a couple of dockers there but uh my dossie pick of the week uh it's probably riley bice uh with the nine should have traded him a couple of weeks ago really but uh that richmond matchup was maybe um a bit narrow-sided i thought i'll just hold him until then then trade him on the buy but uh He didn't get there, unfortunately.
00:14:55
Lew
He just couldn't find the pill and was subbed off, which was ah pretty devastating to to hear about on a Saturday night. It was a good thing I was absolutely plastered somewhere else.
00:15:05
Lew
So ah did it it was like water off a duck's back. But ah waking up Sunday morning, it wasn't a great thing to see. So, yeah, good thing it was best 18, that one.
00:15:17
Jon Harmey
Yourself or the bicycle?
00:15:20
Lew
What's that?
00:15:21
Jon Harmey
Waking up, having a looking having a look, the worst thing to see would be yourself or the e score?
00:15:27
Lew
Oh, yeah, bit of column A, bit of column B, mate.
00:15:31
Holmesy
Yeah, look, I knew. So I i messaged Louie on Saturday night. I was at work and I normally message him just to see how he's tracking, just to see how it's all sort of lining up. And all I got back was a video of him at a pub somewhere. And I thought, yeah, we'll we'll just leave this one for now, Louie.
00:15:46
Lew
Yep, generally the case. I'll message it back in the morning.
00:15:52
Holmesy
Harmi, why don't you go with your picks?
00:15:54
Jon Harmey
Yes. All right, then. So, so many to choose from in the, in the well, formerly known as the Dossie column. um I think I'll give it to Hugh Boxall. As I sort of said before, he put in 30 points.
00:16:10
Jon Harmey
In the one week that I needed him, like, this is the thing with all of these guys that dudded. You've got these rookies in the mid-prices that you just need them in the buys to pop a decent score. So,
00:16:20
Jon Harmey
Hugh Boxhall couldn't have been set up any better for him with, no offence, Dossie, Philippe going out in five minutes into the game. I thought, thank God, he's not the starting sub and he can't be subbed out.
00:16:32
Jon Harmey
I think then like Wangadin Melira went off for a bit as well. So anyway, he should have had, um you know, every opportunity to score well. He was on the field for 49% of the game.
00:16:45
Jon Harmey
So ah can't I can't comprehend it. Anyway, 30 points. So he can have my Dossie pick of the week. My Stato pick, I think I'll give it to Ned Long, who started off terribly, 10 points at quarter time. Anybody who's an owner will have been a bit worried. 24 points at halftime, but pumps out a 77-point second half.
00:17:07
Jon Harmey
So anybody else? um who has these mid-prices and they're all falling apart. Well, finally, one of them stood up for us. So I'll give it to you
00:17:18
Holmesy
Yeah, I'm with you on that one, Harmi. It looked a little bit, ah yeah, not good at halftime in the revenge game against Hawthorne, but he's ah he's just a very good player. um There'll be talk of whether or not...
00:17:27
Lew
Not good in the first three minutes, Holmes. There was few messages being fired off in the group chat real early on that one. had to pull you up.
00:17:35
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:17:36
Lew
Come on. No,
00:17:37
Holmesy
Sam was the first one, I think. don't know. I can't remember, but yeah.
00:17:40
Sam
Mate, that is false accusation. I won't stand for that.
00:17:44
Lew
ah you're as bad as each other. though
00:17:46
Holmesy
Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, we definitely are. Sam, don't you go with your picks?
00:17:51
Sam
um Yes, I'll start with Kai Lohman as my Stato pick of the week. It was um not the rollercoaster my heart needed on a Thursday night after watching him start slow, then kick a goal, then go off with an ankle, but he definitely pulled it together and and produced a nice score for us with Three goals and ah and a handful of marks and tackles.
00:18:12
Sam
ah My dossie pick of the week, I think the boys are being too harsh on our rookies. um So I'll go to bat for them and I'll say my dossie picks are Dean Cox and Ross Lyon. um
00:18:23
Sam
Dean for ah making Cleary the sub and subbing Bice.
00:18:23
Dosby
Thank
00:18:27
Sam
He's the biggest culprit. And then Ross for keeping Boxer on the bench. Just play the kids, boys. Your teams are washed anyway.
00:18:27
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
00:18:36
Holmesy
Did you ah did do trade in Chad Warner for his 74 this week, Sammy Boy?
00:18:40
Jon Harmey
oh
00:18:42
Sam
Yes, yes I did.
Pod Challenge Standings and Trade Strategy
00:18:43
Sam
Not my finest trade this year.
00:18:47
Holmesy
Yeah, nah, fair enough. though I think you guys are being a bit a bit harsh on the rookies, giving them to players that didn't even make your best 18. Unless did Boxer sneak into your best 18, Harmyn?
00:18:57
Jon Harmey
Yeah, of course he did. Had a 9 and an 8 and whatever else.
00:19:03
Holmesy
Far out. These buy rounds are brutal. ah My Dossie...
00:19:05
Sam
look Look how smug he is. Look how smug Kyle is. You can't wipe the smile from his face, hey? Oh no, rising tide lifts all ships. Nah, it doesn't.
00:19:18
Holmesy
It's because Dossie's on the show. i'm just I'm just trying to show off. I'll go back to being quiet next week. ah My Dossie pick for the week, ah hard to go past Baz Smith as captain, was at the game, was in two minds about whether or not I'd take Max Gorn, just wanting a bit of a safer captain score with a bit of carnage. But yeah, going with Baz.
00:19:39
Holmesy
um was very good. and I think that might be two weeks in a row where I've managed to have the highest scoring player of the round um be captain as well. So clearly that helps in ah in a ranking rise. My dossie pick of the week, I'm going to give it to Isaac Rankin. I had some rookie scores in my best 18 that came out, but 63 seems to be a bit of a role shift at the moment. They're putting Berry and Peatling through the midfield a little bit more, which means he's playing a bit more forward and You would have thought in a game where they win by 90 points that Isaac um would have got a little bit more than 63. I think he was on 17 points about five minutes into the game when he kicked his first goal. So Isaac Rankin clearly not trading at the moment, but may not be a top six forward in this role if he doesn't get his midfield minutes back.
00:20:25
Holmesy
um Let's just check in with the Pod Pod Challenge. It's been a few weeks since we've done this. So currently sitting at 19 coaches in the top 100, which is very good to see, but three coaches inside the top 10 at the moment. So we've got Shane's team, Screaming Eagles, sitting at rank number three in a very, very good position to start launching towards the Hilux.
00:20:46
Holmesy
ah Tom's team, Ethan M. Fan team sitting at number six, just behind. And then Michael's team, I think it's Nisa or Niso FC sitting at number 10. So just a reminder, the Pod Pod Challenge is brought to you by Supercoach Champion in 2025. So the winner of the Pod Pod Challenge will receive a custom AFL Fantasy ring.
00:21:05
Holmesy
um So that is very exciting to see those coaches up there. Not only a chance to win the Hilux, but winning that ring as well. All right, boys, let's get stuck into our strategy roundtable. So what I want to do is just talk a little bit of strategy around what they're looking to do or what you guys are looking to do with your trades this week. I think there's...
00:21:24
Holmesy
two camps at the moment where there's some coaches that want to continue to attack and get some really good premiums moving forward.
00:21:28
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:21:31
Holmesy
And then there's some other coaches that are looking to maybe bank some cash this week, knowing that it's everyone's strongest buy round. You're going to have 22, 21 on field pretty comfortably, meaning that we won't necessarily need the extra numbers and we can potentially cash up to be stronger next week.
00:21:46
Holmesy
So Lou, what are you thinking at the moment with strategy for your trades?
00:21:50
Lew
Yeah, I had a long think about this the other week, actually. And um for me personally, I think given that this is a week where most coaches will be able to field some seriously strong sides, I didn't bank any cash last week or not not a significant amount anyway. um I think this is going to be the week where I'd like to make some downgrades and just tidy up the bench and and sort of set sail for the back end of the buyers in terms of cash generation.
00:22:20
Lew
um just given that, you know, only two teams that have the bye. I've got a relatively strong 18 here, and I think I can ah can kind of get away with this one. And are you boys sort of finding yourself in a similar um similar position here? Because I think the most popularly owned players on this round 13 bye are probably going to be Brayshaw, Wanganeem Malira, Marshall, and a Sinclair.
00:22:48
Holmesy
I suppose, Harmi, I'll go to you because I know you have some of these rookies to trade at this buy-around. So although they're red dots, you know you've got Cooper Simpson, Boxall, some other coaches might have a Hastie or an O'Connell flying around. Is this the week where you're looking to so kind of get off those red dots there and make a little bit of cash and potentially maybe get a small upgrade on the other end? Or are you looking to still attack a little bit here, Harmi?
00:23:12
Holmesy
What do you think?
00:23:13
Jon Harmey
Well, most of mine aren't red dots. though would They were like the pink dots. What's the sub dot? That dot. Last week, I traded out Zach Reid, Sam Lawler and Hugo Garcia.
00:23:26
Jon Harmey
So I traded them out. Got a bit of cash banked off the back of that. This week, I'm looking at these players. Riley Bice, Ryan Marrick, Luke Treanor, Kdening Cleary.
00:23:38
Jon Harmey
and potentially Levi Ashcroft. So I'm thinking that three of these guys that are vulnerable should be making their way out of my side and looking at a downgrade, upgrade. So ah guess fortunately for me, Holmesy, I get a couple of premiums back in, in Caleb Daniel and Colby McEacher from last week's buys.
00:23:58
Jon Harmey
So that'll strengthen me up a little bit, but I'll be going with a typical get rid of the players you don't want in your side who aren't premiums, holding all the premiums. and looking at an upgrade along the way. But the upgrade targets are kind of light on this week too, hey?
00:24:13
Lew
but what were you Who did you trade out, Harmi, just out of interest? Because I would have thought Colby would have been top of the list.
00:24:21
Jon Harmey
No, I had to trade non-playing players. Zachary, Sam Lawler, they both did the hamstrings the week before. And then Hugo Garcia didn't get in and then had this week as a buy.
00:24:31
Jon Harmey
So i was like, well, no point. i might as well hold somebody that's not going to lose cash this week and he's going to be an option to play the week after, which is now.
00:24:39
Lew
Yep. Fair enough. All good. I'll tick it off.
00:24:42
Holmesy
Dossie,
00:24:43
Lew
I'll give it the Stato stamp.
00:24:45
Holmesy
as someone that spent a bit of time with Stato over the journey and and looking at buy-round strategy, his his methodology has always been to maximize the green dots.
00:24:56
Holmesy
But do you think it's more important this round to get off Bice, Cleary, Traynor, Ashcroft, these types that are now starting to bleed cash even though they're going to be green dots?
Trade Debates and Player Considerations
00:25:08
Holmesy
Or are you still in the camp of maybe potentially trying to hold some of those, getting the score and then getting off the red dots? Have you put much thought into what you're looking to do this week?
00:25:18
Dosby
All I know is that I wouldn't go against the great man, the great Stato and his old school advice. Is it a bit outdated? Maybe. He's a bit bit of a fuss these days, but um no, i think I think it depends on your situation. It depends who those players are because some players I desperately want to get off like,
00:25:36
Dosby
Yeah, like a Cleary. Like, is he even going to play, for instance? Or... um Yeah, those sort of guys I'd probably be happy to jump off. And and I'm in a situation where I've got a Lawler as well. So I think, like, there's going to be some people that are just forced to trading out those players with a bit of money on their head.
00:25:53
Dosby
But if you do, like... If you have the opportunity to trade out those red dots, I think now is the great opportunity. Like you said, it's the easiest of the buy rounds to do that. And it's probably your last chance, I think, in the next couple of weeks to be able to do that effectively without losing too much on the field. so I think if you, like, depending on who you own, if you're owning some of these, like, real dead rookies, I'd probably use this opportunity to jump off.
00:26:17
Dosby
But, yeah, I'm in the same situation as Harmy where I've got some players I genuinely just have to get off now. So that's what I'll be doing.
00:26:24
Holmesy
Yeah, I think ah think it is actually super important this week to get rid of like your bias and your clearing, your trainer types because they're they're starting to bleed so much cash now. And and even if they are named against Richmond, their break-evens are so high that going to to have a ripper game just to break even or or still potentially lose money. So for me, those are the more urgent ones, especially...
00:26:46
Holmesy
Bison Cleary, like the chances of them even making your best A team this week, regardless being so strong as is nothing. And then they're on their buy the week after. So you may as well make yourself stronger for next week by jumping off them early. We know that coaches have struggled for cash.
00:27:01
Holmesy
And the last thing you want to do is lose another 30, 40, 50K from these players and really struggle for your upgrades the following weeks, Harmi.
00:27:09
Jon Harmey
They're both getting dropped though, Holmesy, right?
00:27:10
Dosby
Yeah, Coxie's going to make that mind up for you, I reckon, mate.
00:27:11
Jon Harmey
like the ah they the They hit the two worst performing players in a terrible performance from the team. So I just can't see them being named anyway.
00:27:23
Lew
but Is that going to work for coaches though? Because you can kind of kick that can down the road a further week and maybe make some upgrades too. and know there's a couple of players that coaches are a little bit skeptical on. Levi Ashcroft's probably um towards that top of the list. Marich is another. There's just a few of those mid-prices that...
00:27:43
Lew
If they start headed in the same direction, um they could fall at sort of a rate of knots. Whereas if you've got Bice or Cleary riding the pine, um with that black dot or the red dot, ah you can kind of it's a bit of a holding space with the buy next week. You can maybe push that one a week further.
00:28:02
Holmesy
Well, then i'll i'll I'll go with you, Lou, because I know you've got Ashcroft and Marik, and then maybe you can sort of spitball ideas with Sam as another Marik owner. Do you think those two players now are starting to get to must-trade territory, knowing that they've done all the hard work to get their price to where they are?
00:28:18
Holmesy
They're within reaching distance of some really good premiums. Do you think you need to go there, knowing knowing that the upgrade you're going to get is going to be far better than you know a Bice or a Cleary or those types?
00:28:29
Lew
Marich worries me. That role started to shift probably two weeks ago. it was a bit higher up the ground on that wing, which we know if they're not getting involved, it can sometimes produce some grim scores. We saw on the weekend, it's pretty much full-time wing and didn't actually take a kick in, which is kind of what's been his bread and butter so far. It's been a nice little floor to have, but...
00:28:53
Lew
Yeah, being the tactical sub out isn't boding well. We've got Tom McCarthy, who by all reports is a pretty handy halfback flanker. He's every chance to come in for the Eagles. Just you know even look at previous years that Hutchinson and ah as well as Marich came in about two weeks after they were drafted. So I'd be expecting him to come in pretty soon. I think, yeah, the writing's on the wall there. That's one that I'm quite happy to trade out of and trade out of quickly just because on top of all that the Eagles as a fantasy scoring um total has been pretty grim we're we're talking 1250 fantasy points which is which is so far below the comp average it's not funny so for that one I'm happy to hit eject Levi Ashcroft's an interesting one this is going to be um
00:29:44
Lew
Very ah contextual in terms of what your team and how it looks like. I personally think five-day break, he's a first-year player. The 57 off of what it was about 60% ground, wasn't it? fifty percent Yeah, time on ground.
00:30:02
Lew
He's almost going at a point per minute still. ah He's gotten his rest now. know he's got a tricky matchup next week, but he's one that we've seen this before. He dropped down to a 63, a 65, and then back up to a 115. So I think he's got the potential to still pop an 80, 85. don't know.
00:30:24
Lew
Not sure he's ah he's a super high priority, but the you know he's probably starting to circle the drain. Yeah. I would make the call based on this week personally, just to see what that looks like and whether he makes it all the way through the buy period. But he's done his job, hasn't he? I mean, he's 785k currently. It's priced, what, near 80?
00:30:46
Lew
and He's done a good job. I think you can make that step up as well to an Uber premium this week if you've got that cash and your and your team's in a good spot to do so.
00:30:57
Holmesy
yeah Yeah, I agree, I think. i think yeah You nailed it. He's a first-year player. He's now priced up in the 80s. You can take him to a bond, green, whoever the premium is. and Yes, it might not be as much of an upgrade if you take bias up to someone, but you're going to sleep easier knowing that you've got that premium now for the rest of the buy period and away you go. so yeah um I'm happy to go on a Levi Ashcroft, especially with the Adelaide matchup.
00:31:22
Holmesy
If he comes out and has an 80 or 90, he holds his price, but there's a chance that he has a another 50 or 60, and then all of a sudden he is really going to start to bleed cash, and then you will have to make that choice next week, and that means that you might fall behind in your trades.
00:31:35
Holmesy
Sam, do you have similar thoughts for Marek as another owner?
00:31:40
Sam
Yeah, i do. um yeah It wasn't pleasing to see his role on the weekend and then obviously getting subbed tactically isn't a great sign either. I'm kind of tossing up between Marich and Bolton being my third out this week with Bison Cleary being one and two.
00:31:58
Sam
only reason I put Bolton on the list there was definitely a lot more forward on the weekend. um You know, kicked three goals to get to 100. You know, with his bye being this week, it's a possible trade-out for me. But um as Louis pointed out, Freo do have a nice run um after their bye, and they've got a few games at Optus Stadium. And, yeah, Shai, if he gets good weather and lots of space at Optus, he can score really well, kind of irrespective of the role he's playing.
00:32:26
Sam
um So those are my kind of three early thoughts. I feel sorry for anyone who might have gone, you know, Xavier, our Halloran, McAuliffe or Berry. um ah this week because they all presented as nice options. I wonder if I can ask maybe Harmi, because I know you went McAuliffe. What's your thinking with him? Do you hold him for one more week now for his bye or just jump straight off?
00:32:51
Jon Harmey
No, well I've got to hold him because we've got too many other headhanks but look I wouldn't say that it's a complete write-off with him yet just because he still had quite a few CBAs in a game that they were competitive and were trying to win and he was still in there, um didn't get subbed and that sort of thing. So i I'll just give him a little bit more time and we'll see. He went up about 43,000, think, off the top of my head.
00:33:18
Jon Harmey
But, yeah, I mean, out of all those guys, Sheldrick was the one. um But, anyway, that's life. That's okay.
00:33:26
Holmesy
Yeah, you say Sheldrick's the one, but is he going to hold his spot? I know he got an 80-odd, but they they're going to change that team around, aren't they? But he he probably does. he He definitely was the pick out of the Bury, McAuliffe, Xebra, Helleran group, that's for sure.
00:33:40
Holmesy
I think you've just got to hold those players through to the bye and hope they have a pop score at some point throughout the bye, and then you eject. I don't think you can do it off the back of one game. ah But yeah, it's
00:33:49
Dosby
Harmi, you wouldn't be too disappointed with a 74 from Kay McCauliffe, would you? 100% kicking efficiency, 18 disposals, um of course, the 12 contested possessions, 74 supercoach points.
00:34:02
Jon Harmey
yeah Yeah, and the Tigers went okay, so I think they get an extra boost for that. yeah move I remember with the way it works.
00:34:11
Holmesy
Very good.
00:34:11
Dosby
Come on, mate.
00:34:11
Sam
Doesn't it depend, like, what phase of the moon um is currently in?
00:34:12
Dosby
You're better have than that, Harmi. No,
00:34:16
Sam
does he Doesn't that have an influence as well, Dossie?
00:34:17
Jon Harmey
yep
00:34:18
Dosby
look...
00:34:18
Jon Harmey
it His mum turned up to the game in a Richmond top, so that got him an extra point.
00:34:19
Sam
Dossie.
00:34:23
Dosby
Everyone's just, you know, throwing away a second chance at a big prize. Boys, you guys, all you WA folk listening, because I know heaps of WA people, barely any of them play. It's just opening up the competition for the rest of us dossies.
00:34:35
Lew
what's the yeah What Chinese New Year is It's the Year of the Dragon or something, isn't it? What does that do for my super coach scoring this week?
00:34:43
Dosby
Oh, my God. oh they're going to be happy.
00:34:48
Holmesy
ah Beautiful. All right, boys. What I want to do is just talk a little bit about the teams coming off the bye. So Carlton, North Melbourne. ah Who else do we have? Port Adelaide.
00:34:59
Holmesy
And what's the other team that forgetting? Bulldogs. um So we know that... Really what we want to do now is is trade in premiums off their buy, knowing that they've got an extra game played um compared to trading into someone on their buy.
00:35:09
Sam
Thank you.
00:35:13
Holmesy
So if we think, let's use Caldwell as an example. If he goes 110 over the next three weeks until his buy, he scores you 330, but then you go a Bont who goes 100, there's 400 points. So more often than not, the player coming off their buy is going to be more value and score more points for you compared to trading into someone with a buy now.
00:35:33
Holmesy
So we're going to look at some targets just coming off the buy. Now, i don't have i don't have heaps as I don't think there's a lot of relevant players, but we're going to discuss some anyway. So we'll start with Carlton Dossie. I'm going to throw to you first, as I know you've been a fan of this bloke over the years. Sam Walsh priced at 92.
00:35:49
Dosby
Oh, Walsh, okay.
00:35:49
Holmesy
Big drop off. Big drop off. 55% center bounces, which is relatively consistent across his career. He's definitely gone on runs where he's had much higher center bounces than that, but...
00:36:01
Holmesy
A bit of a super coach lens here. I know he used to be a big scorer, but I'm not sure he's scoring that anymore. Do you think there's just been a ah big drop-off in form from Sam Walsh in terms of Chera coming back, Hewitt starting the year so well? Do you think he's an option for us moving forward or is he just just a role player at the moment?
Sam Walsh Trade Debate
00:36:20
Dosby
If he gets into form, he's going to be a bargain. That's the thing. It's really just how well he comes off this break and if he can really get back to his best. Because, like, yeah, to your point, he's sort of just at that 50% sort of center bounce mix.
00:36:32
Dosby
And a guy like Chera, who, you know, might have played the same role as Sam Walsh, has jumped up in that mix. um Look, I think you'd probably want to see a bit of a role change before jumping on. But that being said,
00:36:45
Dosby
The run's nice. They've got, i think, Essendon and then West Coast to start. So as a point of difference player, i quite like it, but we just haven't seen, it hasn't been vintage Walsh to this point of the season yet.
00:36:59
Lew
Yeah, Holmesy, you always used to say to me when I was picking a starting squad, how many how many players average over 100 or 105 in one midfield group? And um um' I'm looking at Sam Moulter. He's currently M4.
00:37:13
Lew
ah Cripps is obviously M1. Hewitt's been in some superb form. I can't see him moving just because he probably lacks that versatility. So put him at M2. Cher at the moment is is in some fantastic form. and He's probably wrestled that M3 position from him for the time being. but um So I'll just ask the question, how many M3s, how many M4s are ah sort of doing much more damage past 95? And that's what really concerns me. So...
00:37:41
Lew
ah I understand Sam Walsh is a fantastic player and he has been a fantastic player pretty much since he was drafted. But um besides sort of leaning onto the argument that he's scored well in the past, I'm sort of failing to see why Sam Walsh is a good pick just yet. Like I just want to see, like Dossie said, some sort of role switch or...
00:38:05
Lew
you know ah ah Even with the nice fixture, ah ah it just worries me. It feels like a trade later down the line. like you'd You'd really want to nail this one. So for me, I think Sam Walsh in the current role with the current scoring, it's it smells.
00:38:24
Sam
i yeah I hear you, absolutely. And it's it's one that's difficult to explain, right, because his role seems to be similar to what he's always done. But if there's three weeks where he's going to put it together, Essendon, West Coast, North, so they're an all in the top six.
00:38:41
Sam
for points conceded per game. And we talk about the split between transition scoring and stoppage scoring for midfielders. Sam Walsh definitely fits into that category of a transition scorer, a little bit more outside.
00:38:55
Sam
West Coast and Essendon concede a lot more transition points than they do stoppage points. So I can see a world where he does bounce back in these next three. But then, you know, he's got tough matchups after that in Port, Collingwood, Brisbane, so he could easily regress.
00:39:10
Sam
He's one that definitely interests me as a trade-in option this week.
00:39:15
Holmesy
Yeah, look, ah yeah, louis's Louis' point's good. We're seeing it with the Brisbane midfield currently. You've got Dunkley and McCluggage around that sort of 104 mark. Neal's dropped off. You've got Ashcroft in the mid-90s. It's really hard with multiple players, you know, sort of sharing the ball around for them to go north of that 105 to 110 mark. So that is what worries me about Walsh. Sam, he might have a good three-week block, but then...
00:39:40
Holmesy
As Louis said, yeahre you're booking in a trade. At that point in time, you're probably going to be wanting to get maybe a Roberts up, a Chera at that point, your worst forward. um And then you might find yourself a little bit stuck if he goes back to the 80 scoring that he's been doing so far this year. So...
00:39:57
Holmesy
Definitely one to monitor, and if there's a ah change in role, um I think we'll all be going there, but for now, it's a a pass for me. Lou, do any of the other Carlton boys um interest you? So I've got two here. George Hewitt, we know he started really well, but he's seriously dropped off now.
00:40:12
Holmesy
Priced at 94, but he was going at 115 up until round seven. And Sam Docherty, priced at 80. um Back to his traditional half-back roll last round for a 112. Any interest? any interest
00:40:23
Lew
you're Not really. Hewitt, But Doherty, he would make me very, very nervous if I was purchasing him at the price tag. The Blues, look, they were pretty open about the fact that you know this is a bit of a transitional period for for them in general and that Sam Doherty would be in and out.
00:40:43
Lew
And I just don't think that he's a player that's going to necessarily escape that sub-vest if they've got a fully fit 22. think... um Voss has been yeah pretty open and honestly pretty consistent about that in terms of what he's done this season. He played a lot of twos already.
00:41:01
Lew
um Yes, he did play well against the Giants, but you know I can see one bad game and and perhaps one good game from one of the you know players in the twos with a bit of depth there, um sort of forcing their hand and and him being handed that vest. So While if he does get that halfback role full-time, it could be quite fruitful, I think it's still one that I'd at least like to see just one more and maybe a little bit of um maybe a bit of fluff in the media during the week too.
00:41:30
Dosby
It's my buzz pick of the week, Holmesy. Sam Docherty, jump on board. um he's He's back in the halfback role. There was an article out saying him and Voss had, as you said, a discussion about it and that he only he mutually went back to the VFL to recapture his form, said, I think I play my best footy at halfback and it's how he wants to continue his career and play on next year in this halfback role. But the thing about Carlton is that they don't have...
00:41:56
Dosby
that in-between person that can rack up and and it's almost what they need to get the other guys going. Like you're Saad, like you're Weedering and stuff like that, you know, up there with their higher distributors. I think they need the Doherty back
Player Role and Potential Discussions
00:42:08
Dosby
there. So um i don't know what Blues fans think. I know they've gotten been pretty upset with his form so far this year. So they're probably not thinking the same, but I'm just thinking vintage Doc. He had his best years in this role. And um look, if the coach as if the coach is aligned with him, um ah love i love the I love the play.
00:42:25
Jon Harmey
If it's good enough for Buzz Dossier, it's good enough for me, so I'll do that this week.
00:42:29
Dosby
There you go, Hami. Jump on board.
00:42:31
Holmesy
Harmi, you've taken the Doss role too literally there, I think.
00:42:33
Lew
Very concerning. Very concerning.
00:42:36
Holmesy
Yeah, midno't mid only is the one that concerns me, but let's go to the Bulldogs now. And Dossie, I'll stick with you just because Bont and Richards, once again, two players that are very relevant in the super coach world. So I'm sure you've done a lot of research here, but Bont at 108, Richards at 106.
00:42:54
Holmesy
um Do you think there's value here in terms of them continuing their form and being top eight mids for us?
00:43:00
Dosby
Yeah, I'm interested to see where Treloar plays because I think he's back this week. um That's the really interesting thing to me. I think that if he's – it'll be hard to switch the mix they've got right now. But, yeah.
00:43:12
Dosby
Long story short, yeah, I think both of them are great options. I think Bond, obviously, just due to history and Ed Richards, because Bond is so untaggable, Ed Richards now will be the one to cop the tag. I think going there now, like he copped the O'Sheen Mullen before the buy, um thankfully still bust out an okay score. right Sorry, I don't know what his fancy was, but I know he did well in super coach in the end, but um With Bont, I think I'd have pretty good faith that he's going to be, well I would hope to be a top eight mid. And I know he's expensive, but I've had him in my plan. So maybe if I don't back in dock or if I manage to get both, I think Bont would be the target I'd be jumping on this week. Also, TDK from Carlton you didn't mention, but he's got such a good run home. I know he stunk it up late.
00:43:58
Dosby
I wouldn't mind going there from Marshall personally.
00:44:03
Holmesy
That's why we have you on, Dossie, for the pod pod.
00:44:05
Dosby
Mate, he's got an incredible run. He plays Essendon and Port twice on the run home.
00:44:08
Holmesy
Dossie,
00:44:10
Dosby
I'm just saying.
00:44:11
Holmesy
we are at the point in the season where we stop messing around with our rucks and you need to have a combination of Cherry, Marshall and Gorn.
00:44:16
Dosby
Nah.
00:44:19
Holmesy
You need the top two big dogs that are capable of going 150. We haven't seen TDK 130 since round one.
00:44:26
Dosby
Mate, you blokes get unlimited trades over here. I can do what I want.
00:44:30
Lew
You know what? He's got 1.7 million on his head, so he'd want to put up some 130s on the run home. So I'll give Dossie that one.
00:44:38
Dosby
Thanks, Matt.
00:44:40
Holmesy
Sam, with Treloar coming back, does that mean that you're potentially dislike counting out Matt Kennedy? Priced at 105, he's gone 111 in his last five, just keeps getting it done. I know coaches are considering going there if they need to go up from Marrick and they don't have any DPP available.
00:44:56
Holmesy
Currently sits well inside the top six forwards. How long do we keep disrespecting Matt Kennedy?
00:45:02
Sam
Yeah, I mean, geez, hasn't he hit some form? We always knew he was a talented player, Carlton, where he didn't really get a consistent run at it. And he's absolutely taken to this Bulldogs midfield.
00:45:14
Sam
I think like, you know, what we were talking about before about, you know, how much can an M3, M4 score every week? um They've been on this amazing run where I think Bond, Kennedy, Richards, Libber have all gone sort of circa 100 points for about four weeks now.
00:45:31
Sam
Don't think it's sustainable um if anyone's going to lose CBAs and maybe regress a little from that list with Treloar coming back. You know, Kennedy's probably the obvious one because he's he can play half forward.
00:45:43
Sam
um Price at 105, geez, I can't see him outperforming that price.
00:45:45
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:45:48
Sam
There is a good chance he finishes as a top six forward at the end of the year. But um look, I think you can hunt around and find better value in the forward line. um during the ball rounds.
00:45:58
Lew
I don't know about you guys, but every time I look at Matt Kennedy, I think the moment I pick this guy back to 75s, just as like as an average, it it just feels so dangerous um knowing that Treloar is coming in and just not being totally convinced by the guy from a fantasy sense, but his football form is incredible.
00:46:20
Holmesy
Yep, agree with that one, Lou. The last one I had here was Bailey Dale priced at 98. Is he a top six defender? I think he's going to have his ceiling games, but he's also going to have his floor games. And that's going to put him as just a one rung below the the top six defenders who are all averaging well over 100.
00:46:37
Holmesy
So for me, Bailey Dale is a no, but if you'd need a defender, you can go worse than him. Louie, I'll stick with you for North Melbourne because you traded out Harry Sheasel. And when you traded him out, you said, I'm looking to get him back.
00:46:50
Holmesy
Priced at 105. Had the forward roll last game, but we know that changes all the time. If he becomes a midfielder or goes back into defense, clearly we're going to need him. But at the moment, are you fading Harry Sheezer or do you think he's still a good buy to jump back into?
00:47:04
Lew
No, ah I'm still fading. um I ah traded him out knowing that I'd be comfortable trading back in if I heard anything of the opposite of sort of what... has been happening the last couple of weeks. and By all reports, it sounds like he might stay in that half-forward role for now. So that's got me worried. I think Caleb Daniel and Hardiman have played some good footy while he's been shifted. So I'm not sure where Sheasel lands. Is it midfield? I'm not so sure either. You've got LDU, Powell, and ah name escapes me right now.
00:47:41
Lew
He should be in there, but...
00:47:42
Holmesy
Wardlaw.
00:47:43
Lew
he's even yeah Wardlaw that's the one he's even come out himself and said where would you like to play your footy I'd like to play as a forward so that worries me a bit and um one that I'd be happy just to just to keep an eye on um if that role shifts again but uh Yeah, I didn't really want to ride that train.
00:48:03
Lew
I'm bit nervous about it. 7% CBA is pretty disgusting.
00:48:06
Dosby
Thank
00:48:07
Lew
And yeah, if he's not going to be off that half back, I'm just not sure what that um role is in terms of a fantasy score. He's got the West Coast Eagles this week. I think a disaster situation is if he plays really well at half forward against the Eagles and he might put up a 110, 115, but if he kicks a couple of goals and looks good, then that role may just keep continuing. So that ah that would,
00:48:30
Lew
Even though it'd be good for fantasy coaches, that would probably spell disaster over the weeks following.
00:48:36
Holmesy
What about Riley Hardeman, Lou? So priced at 50, break even negative one. Is Riley Hardeman an option for coaches that are still looking to generate cash or do you think he's a little bit expensive now?
00:48:48
Lew
ah I think he's a bit expensive. he's he was really good the the week previous um and he's been impressive pretty much since he came into that side, but he is a bit of a hybrid in that he can attack, but he's also a really good defender and that's sort of what...
00:49:04
Lew
um I know the North fans like him back there, therefore he can do a bit of both. ah For me, priced at 50, I think I'd rather someone in a bit more of a cushier role.
00:49:11
Holmesy
Amen.
00:49:14
Lew
He's not necessarily the number one guy back there in defense. He's probably behind a ah Caleb Daniel there still. um Will you make money off him? Yes.
00:49:24
Lew
um But would I be confident that he's going to score more than 60 week in, week out? I don't know, I question it. So for me, I'd rather shop further down that list rather than pay that or or maybe find a little bit of extra cash and pay.
00:49:40
Lew
pay some more, but Riley Hardiman for me ah is a pass. That being said, I could be completely wrong because I've been impressed by his football and bit of confidence does some funny things to a young player.
00:49:53
Lew
And if he can find that ball in the North Melbourne back line, which it should be back there plenty, ah yeah he could be one that maybe goes 70 from here and be a smash pick.
00:50:06
Holmesy
Harmi, last club that we have coming off the buy at Port Adelaide. So I've got a few players here just to go over. First one is Zach Butters, priced at 98. We all know what Zach Butters can do and and with his but at his best, he's a ah clear top eight mid.
00:50:20
Holmesy
Has a break-even of 140. Three games coming up, GWS, Melbourne and Sydney.
Port Adelaide Performance and Trade Impact
00:50:25
Holmesy
Could coaches jump this week or do you think you wait for the break even, hope that he you know puts up another stinker against GWS with the Bedford tag and then look to jump on the next couple of weeks? What do you think with Butters?
00:50:37
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I think we can afford to wait. I'm not going to get him this week, but I'll certainly be keener next week, I reckon. Who else? Bergman. Man, it depends how long JHF is out for, doesn't it? Because I guess the reason that people became interested in Bergman was that switch to the midfield.
00:50:55
Jon Harmey
um And, yeah, with JHF on that, well, he's proclaimed himself to be fit, didn't he? So i think I'd prefer to not take the punt on Bergman.
00:51:06
Jon Harmey
And I'm more interested in Butters and JHF. But you've got to remember, like Port haven't been going very, very well either. So, yeah, I'm a little bit sceptical, but I'm definitely keen on Butters next week.
00:51:19
Holmesy
So Bergman actually came into the midfield but against Adelaide when JHS played and that actually resulted in JHS having 50% centre bounces. Now, we haven't really seen it for a full game yet because the next game after that, JHS went down with the Hamien.
00:51:36
Holmesy
We kind of hypothesized that Bergman went in to tag Dawson and we didn't know whether it was going to stick. Dossie, is JHF someone that you'd be more than happy to jump back on once he's lost a bit more cash with that high break even? Or do you think there's too many moving parts at Port Adelaide and he could find himself having more of that mid-forward split, which wouldn't make him a ah top six forward?
00:51:56
Dosby
Well, it be hard for me to jump back on because he's still in my team. um But actually, the podcast that I recorded myself, which you guys don't listen to anymore, um over on the Supercoach platform, I spoke with the journo from Adelaide, um went down to port this morning, and he was saying that apparently Horn Francis is more unlikely than likely to actually play this week, which is disappointing for holders. And if you're targeting him, yeah, you're looking to wait.
00:52:24
Dosby
um I do think he's well-priced.
00:52:25
Lew
well
00:52:26
Dosby
um I do think he's well-priced for, um yeah, when he's back up and running though. And I think on the run home, like, yeah, i I think at that price, man, like I'm definitely jumping back on if I'm a non-owner, but yeah, you could probably wait to see how he responds from the hammy as he might be managed his way through for the first couple, just like we kind of saw with Jai Caldwell before he popped. He had a couple of downscores just adjusting back and playing a bit lower time on ground. So, yeah,
00:52:52
Dosby
Probably weight, but positive sign is that it was his first hamstring injury, which for some reason I thought he'd done multiple, but it was the knee issues early in his career. he hadn't actually done a hamstring. So um yeah, but that that's what we heard early in the week. And you'll be able to hear that exclusive news when I actually end up um editing the podcast when I finish up here.
00:53:13
Lew
Yeah, I'm bit worried for Horn Francis. Ports suck at the moment. I can see him coming back from that hamstring injury straight out of the um out of the box, sort of playing full forward, where he's really effective um when Port are in form, but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment.
00:53:30
Lew
What I will say, though, is a bit of a grey area here now because that tweet's actually since been deleted, but just before we pressed record... um It was reported that Ollie Wines may be dealing still with his heart issue. So um if that's the case, it it opens up a massive door for Myles Bergman potentially to come into that midfield mix and...
00:53:54
Lew
Yeah, he he he could be a serious play if that is the case. So um keep an eye on that one.
00:53:58
Jon Harmey
What's he worth? 723. Yeah.
00:54:01
Lew
723k. ah but a lot ah Jordan DeSena, who's a good friend of the show, good friend of mine, um seems to think that we're going to pump up his trade value from here.
00:54:14
Lew
Thinks he might be out the door. So that would be an interesting one to to explore, i think, and comes at a pretty nice price there.
00:54:16
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:54:22
Holmesy
What I will say about JHF, and this might be getting a a little bit ahead of ourselves, but kind of gives me Connor Rosey vibes from last year in terms of the timing of his injury and how cheap he's going to be.
00:54:34
Holmesy
He could be that perfect player to target around 17, 18 if he drops all the way down to sort of mid 700s to try and get him as that sort of 23rd premium um on the bench to be able to loop with knowing that he has a ceiling on his day and you might not necessarily have to to roll with him on fake on field each week. But yeah, definitely one to monitor and we know he's going to get cheap.
00:54:56
Holmesy
All right, lads, let's finish off with some questions. The first one here we have from Lex. What are the top six forwards for the rest of the season and who else is around the mark? So there's a little bit to to unpack here, but...
00:55:09
Holmesy
Currently, what we have is the top six forwards as they stand are Baz, Martin, Kennedy, McRae, Petrarca, and then Jackson, which was a little bit surprising off the back of his last two weeks.
00:55:21
Holmesy
And then just behind them, we've got Myers, Rankin, and Warner. So I'll throw to you, Sam, with those top six forwards that are there currently and the ones that are in the mix, do you see any of those changing? And and what would you expect to change in the run home?
00:55:36
Sam
I think the obvious one that would change maybe a little bit there is Jackson. um i mean, it's not guaranteed because the Sean Darcy situation is an interesting one, but I think as long as Darcy is playing and playing sometime in the ruck,
00:55:50
Sam
Jackson's scoring probably isn't going to be the same, although we did see him play quite a bit of midfield, um even with Darcy at the centre bounce. So that's probably an interesting one. Kennedy we've talked about earlier. I can see him dropping, you know, five to 10 points if he misses out on some midfield time and spends further forward.
00:56:08
Sam
Rankin, we've seen a kind of steady decline, maybe a slight role change. Will he bounce back up there and be top six? Warner, I think, I mean, I think he's a 90 to 95 guy, so he's always going to be around the mark.
Top Forwards and Strategic Considerations
00:56:22
Sam
Myers is a very interesting one. um So I think what we've got there is probably, what, nine, maybe 10 forwards that could all finish the year within the top six. But I think Baz, Martin, McRae and Petrarca are locks. And then, you know, you can maybe have a dabble in other places. Do you do you guys have any different thoughts on that?
00:56:43
Lew
I think you've nailed it. I'd maybe add Caleb Daniel to that mix, potentially, if um if he's back into that halfback role that we saw to begin the year. I know it's a bit stinky, but we're looking at some of those some of those scores there from that group of, what, seven or eight players, and it's you know it bottoms out pretty quick at sort of 90.
00:57:04
Lew
So potentially he could be in the mix as well.
00:57:08
Dosby
I reckon Treloar might be in the mix.
00:57:12
Holmesy
Will he play enough games, Dossie? I don't think he'll play enough games to get forward status from here.
00:57:15
Dosby
Before the next game.
00:57:17
Lew
I think they've got to play about six or eight this time of year, yeah.
00:57:18
Dosby
You're right. I think you're right.
00:57:22
Dosby
Next year I'm talking.
00:57:25
Sam
maybe Maybe a different question for the podcast then. ah there it Would you be targeting any of these guys right now at their price? Maybe McRae when he comes back in, but even 99 feels a fair price for him.
00:57:40
Holmesy
McCray, well, he's not priced at 99, I don't think. That's his average for the year.
00:57:43
Sam
Oh, sorry, is that that's the average? Yeah, okay.
00:57:46
Dosby
um Probably as a non-owner, i'm I'm looking at ranking if that role goes back. And if this last couple of weeks was just a rest against some easier opponents, I think he'd probably be the one.
00:57:54
Sam
Yeah.
00:57:56
Dosby
But I know he's quite highly owned. But as someone who's not had him, I think he'd be probably, you you know, that price is nice given that he has had that shift forward. But I'd have to see the center bounces back for him to be considered.
00:58:09
Lew
he He worries me because he's always been one that sort of dwindles out as the season goes on and the body picks up a few niggles. So I don't know, maybe first year in the midfield, it's it's just getting a bit too much.
00:58:21
Lew
He's still going to be in there because he's super effectual. But that one probably concerns me a little bit, Isaac Rankin.
Trade Validations and Role Changes
00:58:29
Holmesy
Dossie, I'll go to you for this one because you have the ability to give the the Stato stamp of approvals back in the day. This one's from James Hulse. He's copped every bullet under the sun recently, but he wants to start getting his team value on field. So the proposed trades he's given us are Marek to McCarthy, if named, then taking Langford to Butters and Ashcroft to Richards.
00:58:51
Holmesy
Does he get a stamp?
00:58:53
Dosby
Langford to Butters. I mean, I think you guys spoke about why not to target Butters this week. I think you you can still wait. I don't have the break even of Butters, but I'd imagine it's pretty high.
00:59:00
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:59:02
Dosby
And think Harmy flagged as well. The the Bedford tag, imagine trading in an expensive p player. I know he's still a bargain for what he can deliver, but imagine trading him in and you cop a tag for like ah a 60 and then he goes on his run.
00:59:15
Dosby
I mean, if you've got other plans coming up and you're willing to cop that, but yeah, I wouldn't want to be trading in Butters. He does not get the stamp. of approval for this one, but I'd look at another premium midfield in that mix, and I think that's pretty good trades.
00:59:30
Lew
so So Butter's break even 140. And the last time he came up against Toby Bedford, who did tag him, went up against him, he scored a 67. So if that were to repeat itself, he'd be at 907K, according to Selby's projector. So...
00:59:48
Lew
ah It's 60K drop would be a would be a lot. That's essentially the same as what coaches have copped from a Bison, a Cleary on the weekend gone. So um yeah, with cash hard to come by, I'd be a bit nervy to to trade into Zach Butters with that tag looming
01:00:06
Sam
Yeah, and he's probably not far off being able to go Bond and Caldwell instead of Butters and Richards, which I'd probably prefer. Even Bond and Walsh, my boy Walsh. I'll back him in to bounce back over the next three weeks.
01:00:21
Holmesy
Yeah, I think...
01:00:21
Dosby
Caldwell's a great shout.
01:00:23
Holmesy
Yeah, it's just the buy, Dossie. It's just the buy.
01:00:25
Dosby
It's the last one, though.
01:00:25
Holmesy
And if you... Yeah, I know. But yeah, that's the that's the sticking point for me.
01:00:30
Lew
we we do We do have a lot of trades.
01:00:31
Holmesy
But yeah...
01:00:32
Lew
like ah I'm not against considering trading into players with a buy still. um Yeah, I don't know. like I ah think there is a bit of room for some sideways trading this year in terms of this buy period, just with how many trades we've got available to us. I think most coaches should complete their side before then anyway, so I don't mind it.
01:00:57
Holmesy
Harmi, this one's from Ethan. Do I hold or do I trade Bolton?
01:01:03
Jon Harmey
I am a Bolton owner and I'm holding. ah just think that I've got to fix up some of the other problems in my team. And if Bolton ends up being, um what what are we, F6, I'm okay with that, even though he does put out a few floor scores.
01:01:23
Jon Harmey
I think that he's got his bye this week, obviously, but he's somebody that we can hold for a little bit and just see. And if the scores do drop away, then we we ditch him then.
01:01:32
Holmesy
Yeah, i I agree with that 100%. What I will say about Frio is that Erasmus and Johnson are growing each and every week. They're starting to play their roles a lot better in the midfield.
01:01:43
Holmesy
You've just had Fife come back as the sub. he's He's probably going to be the sub for at least another two or three games, but um he's going to come back into that midfield as well. And I think... Friot are going to want, eventually, they're going want Bolton as that sort of pinch hit in the midfield, but more Cozzy Pickett style up forward.
01:02:01
Holmesy
um is He's going to be far more valuable kicking three or four goals a game than he would be getting sort of 20, 25 touches in the midfield. But yeah, I i don't think I'd be trading him this week, Lou.
01:02:11
Lew
Yeah, if if Darcy's in the ruck as well alongside Jackson, um Jackson's taking up a mid-spot too. So that that probably doesn't look great for Bolton. But like i said earlier, that fixture is quite nice, even if he is camped at that sort of half-forward role, potentially just with the um ah talent we know that he does possess. him He might be enough to so just clip at the heels at some of those names we mentioned earlier. I'm not sure you know some of Some of these guys, Rankin, Myers, Daniel, potentially Warner on his day, even McRae wasn't in the greatest form.
01:02:44
Lew
It might be near enough, close enough sort situation.
01:02:49
Holmesy
Dossie, this one's from Tyler Finlay. Is Libba an option? Supercoach Gunn, but with Treloar due back soon, um do you think Libba can maintain what he's doing or do you think being a bit older and and with the emergence of Richards and Bont doing Bont things that Libba is eventually going to come back to the pack? I think he's priced at 105, so he'd have to really maintain what he's doing to be a good pick.
01:03:11
Dosby
I've got the same question over on the show that I did today and I'm not, and this is probably more of like a, yeah, I i don't, I want to see what it looks like. I think jumping in without seeing Treloar as a regular in the side. Now I know he played, what did he what's he played this year? Like one game so far. um Yeah. I want to see him regularly in there. And and if he, when he starts putting some footy together, whether he does get in that mix. So I'm sort of avoiding, like that's why I kind of said it's bond.
01:03:42
Dosby
or it's nothing for me at the moment really out of that mix. um So for me, yeah, I'm not on liver. I think especially a guy that's over 30 paying full price. I think it's just tough, even though he's had a ridiculous season and I, I've faded him all year in both formats and yeah, he's killed it for owners, but I wouldn't jump on now at this price.
01:04:03
Holmesy
Sam, this one's from Rod Rodelson. If no interesting basement rooks are named, can I bring in a red dot to loop with after the buys if it means getting bonked? So we think we're probably going to get a ah basement come through.
01:04:17
Holmesy
ah But if not, could you tick off going the red dot if Cash Gen's fine to to get the gun premium on the other end?
01:04:25
Sam
Oh, probably not. I mean, I don't know how many teams could have be affording to trade in a red dot now, um given the given the rook situation we've had over the last, you know, four five weeks. I mean, I've still got, you know, two to three red dots on my bench, so I certainly wouldn't be looking to bring in a red dot. ah So, I mean, like, I'm someone that's looking at Bont this week, obviously, but I also think you can wait a week on him.
01:04:52
Sam
You Hawthorne, He's priced at 105. Is he really going to... The Bont's the Bont. He could always go 130, but I think you can wait a week. And then he has a really nice fixture after the Hawthorne game as well. So I personally wouldn't be trading in a red dot just to bring in Bont this week.
01:05:09
Sam
Bring in someone else and and have a look at Bont next week.
01:05:13
Lew
who who are you Who are we downgrading to?
01:05:13
Holmesy
Yeah.
01:05:16
Lew
That's the question because there's every chance that you're going to downgrade to a red dot in the future anyway. I don't mind it. Like i said, we've got a lot of trades too to fix this up.
01:05:26
Lew
So if it does get you the premium you want, knowing that there's not a whole lot of premiums to choose from this week, as we sort of stated earlier, think if you bother in a good spot, you could you could do a whole lot worse.
01:05:36
Holmesy
Yeah.
01:05:40
Holmesy
Yeah, on I'm firmly against it just because at this time of the year, it's very it's very easy to try and just deplete your bench um and get all of that cash on field, which is fine.
01:05:50
Holmesy
But you've got to remember, we're still only halfway through the season.
01:05:51
Sam
Thank you.
01:05:53
Holmesy
Cash gen, although not as important as your starting squad, it's still an important part of the game now because we... We still need to make trades all the way up to the end of the year and you're need cash to do it. So, ah yeah, I don't think it's ah a play at the moment to trade into a red dot unless you built it your bench is super, super healthy and you're only carrying one, then I'd tick it off. But I think most coaches are starting to get to a point where they've got three or maybe even more piling up and we still need to generate cash to to attack later on in the season. Yeah.
01:06:24
Holmesy
Dosby, this one specifically for you from Patrick. If the guest is who I think he is, how did he transform his brain to watch footy and actually care about the result of each kick and handball?
Enjoying Footy with a Supercoach Lens
01:06:37
Dosby
ah You know what? And I'm not even... This isn't just spin. I enjoy watching it more, not having to worry about every single stat. The thing is, you actually you actually look at the whole result of the game, but you're also looking at like spoils you know are effective. Contested possession, like you're kind of watching it more holistically than just watching for a kick or a handball. So ah actually like watching it when you know kind of what is Good super coaching, which for those that don't know, it's long effective kicks, it's contested possessions, it's hit outs to advantage. So Ruckman do well, people that get contested, people do well and people that use the ball do well. That's pretty much the three things that I'd say to everyone that plays fantasy that wants to know how super coach is just like three pretty easy things.
01:07:21
Dosby
and then how the game plays out and it's big moments so if the bond kicks a goal and there's it's like after the siren you know you're going to get a massive score boost rather than just yeahp yeah well not quite that much but rather than just your usual um you know nine that you get from a kick and a goal so yeah i i enjoy watching at homesy it's not just spin i do enjoy um watching a little bit more of the sort of holistic view and i don't find myself
01:07:30
Lew
300 points.
01:07:48
Dosby
writing every little stat. thing that I do find though, is that when people turn it over, it really annoys me these days. So the effective disposals does, does annoy me a little bit more.
01:07:58
Holmesy
There we go, Dossie boy. that The boss will be happy we've reached the quota.
01:08:01
Dosby
Thanks mate. Can you clip that bit up?
01:08:01
Holmesy
hot
01:08:03
Holmesy
Harmy finishes off with your question for Dossie.
01:08:06
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I've got a question for Golden Tonsils. I couldn't help but notice on the weekend, one of your boys, Hugh McCluggage, pumped out a massive score. Don't know what he scored in a Supercoach. Could have been 500 something.
01:08:20
Jon Harmey
But he got it hunt over 150 in fantasy. So I thought ah thought I would ask a question because I'll just flick back, write down a few names.
01:08:23
Dosby
Yeah, about the same.
01:08:30
Jon Harmey
Dawson, he's going pretty well. Jake Bowie and all sort of gone all right, but he's coming back to the true Jake Bowie now.
01:08:36
Dosby
I don't know.
01:08:38
Jon Harmey
Paddy Dow, he's looking at a return. He's not far off a game for the Saints. Jack Bowes, I think he's been in and out. i don't know what's... Is he playing at the minute?
01:08:47
Dosby
yeah that's probably a missed one, that one.
01:08:48
Lew
Uh, hamstring. Yep.
01:08:50
Dosby
Maybe one day.
01:08:50
Jon Harmey
Braden Fiorini, he's looking at a return to the VFL. I've got him in a draft comp, um you know, we with you in the back of my mind, but I think he's headed back to the VFL, so he's not...
01:09:00
Dosby
I'm
01:09:00
Jon Harmey
you know But my question is, Do you have a boy for this year? Is there a new dossie boy?
01:09:07
Dosby
trying to think on the spot. um You know what? The the Caldwell pick, I was pretty keen on that last week, and I'm really happy it paid off. But Caldwell's a bit bit of old news. He kind of had his run last year.
01:09:20
Dosby
What I'm doing, Harmi, I found myself... you know jumping on ah someone a bit different who's actually stinking it up now that everyone's jumped off and everyone's forgotten about.
01:09:30
Dosby
And he's my boy. And I'm going to ride him into next year when everyone is going to pick him. Steve's jumped off. Stato's jumped off. Sammy Flanders, boy.
01:09:40
Lew
ah so
01:09:40
Dosby
Jump on board the dossier chain.
01:09:40
Jon Harmey
ah No way.
01:09:42
Dosby
He's my boy now. Get him back in the midfield. Get him out of the Suns. I always like a project player. So get him out of the Suns. I've got to always got a reason to get someone out of the Suns. Sammy Flanders next. Get him back in the midfield. Get him on a halfback flank.
01:09:55
Dosby
Get him out of the forward pocket.
01:09:57
Holmesy
he's ah He's going to be a good pickup next year at isn't he,
Celebrating 150 Episodes and Dossie's Contributions
01:10:01
Holmesy
Boy? like
01:10:01
Dosby
yeah that's it
01:10:03
Lew
You were pretty big on Ryan Marich, Dossie, pretty early on.
01:10:06
Dosby
Yeah, that was early. Yeah, he's our boy over on the Supercoach.
01:10:08
Lew
Ryan Marich and Julia.
01:10:09
Dosby
He's our boy over on the Supercoach show. The problem I can't claim him is everyone else picked him after I talked him up and then I didn't pick him. So I can't i can't claim that.
01:10:16
Lew
Oh, he's certainly your boy, mate, because he's headed straight for the waffle.
01:10:17
Dosby
It's just this classic buzz, mate. just Just classic buzz, mate. Just doing the right thing for the community ahead of my... Not thinking about myself, thinking of the community. So yeah, sorry, not off the top of my head, but we'll go Flanders.
01:10:28
Holmesy
All right, lads. Beautiful. We'll wrap up there. What a bumper of an episode for our 150th. I hope the listeners got a lot out of that. Dossie, we don't know when we're going to see you again. We know how hard it was for you to walk into your boss's office with your tail between your legs and ask for permission for this. So why don't you give us a sign off? and And who knows, maybe we'll maybe we'll see you again in the future at some point.
01:10:52
Dosby
Well, if you guys ever can start playing a bit of Supercoach, maybe I can get you on a guest the other way around, and but you might need to provide a bit more nice words on the platform for me to be able to do that.
01:11:02
Dosby
But um yeah, no, thanks guys for having me. Really appreciate it. um You're doing a great job. I was really happy, Holmes, I'll let you know this, but was really happy that you kept going. I hope it can keep going for as long as it as long as it can without getting too much in the way of, um of your other lives. But um yeah it's obviously sad. It would' have been lovely to have the the great man Stato on as well, but always love having a chat. And I definitely miss, um miss doing this show with you guys. So it was obviously um really, so it was shocking when I had to go initially, cause like I didn't know it was going to be so sudden. So it would have been nice to have a proper, um a proper send off. The kind of last show was a bit thrown together, but,
01:11:43
Dosby
It's great to come back on. And um yeah, thanks for having me back. Thanks for inviting me.
01:11:49
Holmesy
Anytime, Dossie invitation is always there.
01:11:50
Lew
We love you, Dossie.
01:11:53
Holmesy
For everyone else, make sure you're following us on Twitter, at Twitter, sorry, um at PodPodAFL. Make sure you subscribe to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your content. Have a good round this week, guys. Best 18 again, um but only two teams on the bye.
01:12:08
Holmesy
Hopefully means we're fielding 22 and 21, Harmi, so you won't have to take those eights and nines, but we'll see you back next week.
01:12:27
Holmesy
you