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Transcript
Ryan's College Football Journey
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome back to the Connecting Minds podcast. Today we have a returning guest, Ryan Miniti. He was on the show a month ago or so or two by the time this guest posted out. Ryan, thanks for coming back on, man. Yeah, absolutely, Christian. I'm happy to be here and that we get to shoot the shit a little bit more.
00:00:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's gonna be fun, man. Let's talk, let's just, let's go. We never, because we had John on the other show, so I wanted to discuss more Live Free Now Academy and all that, all the good stuff you're working on there. But let's talk more about you to begin with. So let's unpack your awakening journey a little bit more. I'm sure plenty of people missed that. So let's start there and see where that takes us. Okay, yeah. I really started waking up
00:00:49
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maybe like when I first went to community college. So I got recruited to college for football and it was one of the top D3 schools. So like I was like all conference, all area.
00:01:09
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defensive tackle, but the only thing was that I was 5'10". So I didn't have the height to play D1 or D2. The only D1 offer that I got, it was D1AA. It was the University of San Diego and they wanted me to play fullback. So yeah, I didn't have the height to go D1. I mean, I was good and everything
Philosophy and Personal Transformation
00:01:30
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and I was strong. I just didn't have the height. So I went to North Central in Naperville.
00:01:38
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And, uh, my parents were like cheap asses at the time and they're like, no, dude, like you gotta, you gotta stay at home. North central is only 25 minutes away. You can just commute. Well, I missed out on like all of the. The bonding that you do with your teammates, like living in the, in the same dorms on the same level, you know, all of the hijinks and stuff that go along with that. Like I totally missed out on that experience.
00:02:05
Speaker
So then, um, I, I broke my ankle in the weight room, me and this one coach, like the weight room coach, the strength and conditioning coach, he was just a total Dick. He was also the punters coach and he was like fat and out of shape. And so I didn't understand why he was the strength and conditioning coach. I guess that just happens with like D three programs, but not, you wouldn't think for like North central North central is like a perennial like playoff D three school. You think they have something better going on, but at the time that's,
00:02:34
Speaker
how it was. And so I was I was doing 250 pound chains on my neck doing step ups. And when I stepped down, I just like hit the side of my ankle and just like broke the shit out of my ankle. And then and then so I had like six weeks recovery time and I was just itching to get back on the field because I was killing it. Like I was I was showing out. And so I'm like, shit, I might get playing time as a freshman.
00:03:03
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And, uh, so then after six weeks, I get back on the field and the very first rep that I, that I do, I just break the same ankle again. Oh, dude, dude, it was, it was taped to the nines. I mean, the traders must've wrapped like six rolls
Interest in Conspiracy Theories
00:03:20
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of tape around that ankle and it's very first rep. I start, they put me at D N for whatever reason. So I I'm out at D N and I started rushing the quarterback and like, I had,
00:03:32
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My famous move at the time was like fake, you know, you fake inside, go back outside kind of thing. So I fake inside and plant and just break the ankle all over again. I'm like, oh, this. And they're like, honestly, if you keep playing, like you're gonna, you're gonna just make your ankle like a total nightmare for the rest of your life. And so I was like, okay, I'm done. I just left and like never even said a word to the coaches or anything.
00:04:01
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Like I said, I didn't really build the bond that people were making that they were all living there and stuff like that. So I just kind of just left one day. And then I decided that I was going to go to community college and I was never great at school, but I actually started trying and I made Dean's list both times. So I'm like, all right, I'm not stupid. I just didn't give a shit.
00:04:27
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And then, but one thing that I, that I loved, I took intro to philosophy and I was like, whoa, this is awesome. Like I love like expanding my mind to these hypothetical scenarios and learning about all of these.
00:04:42
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you know, famous thought experiments and stuff like that. And then I took intro to ethics and then I took history of philosophy. And so I just really, really went down the philosophical road. And then I used to get in debates with my philosophy, a professor. He loved me because I was always like debating everyone. And I was a devout Catholic, but then through philosophy, I started questioning the existence of God and I concluded
00:05:11
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that God didn't exist. And I was like, debating him who was still a Christian. I'm like, come on, you know all this stuff.
Media Influence and Misinformation
00:05:20
Speaker
Like, how are you still a Christian? And we would, we would go back and forth. And so it really started with that was like the whole questioning God thing, which now I don't now I've, I've come around because of near death experience research. I had Alex securis on my podcast from Skeptico.
00:05:36
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And he is awesome. And he has all of the top like PhDs and he had Dr. Raymond Moody, Dr. Jeffrey Long, like all of these guys who are super well versed in near-death experience research. And it shows without a shadow of a doubt that there is an afterlife. So like I've, you know, fallen away from God and come back. I don't have a.
00:05:59
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I'm not Christian or anything like that, but I definitely accept the fact that there's an afterlife and we're spiritual beings and everything like that. But that's really what got me started down the road. And then I've always been big into health and wellness. And right around the same time, I was going to the gym a lot because I wasn't in football anymore.
Views on Authority and COVID-19
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So I was just hitting the gym, trying to stay in shape, lose some weight. I was 5'10", 260 pounds.
00:06:28
Speaker
That was a big old boy. What are you now? Sorry? What are you now? Now I'm 194 as of this morning. Jesus. So that, whoa, dude. Yeah. So about like 66 pounds heavier on a 510 frame. I mean, yeah, like I was, I was definitely the wrecking ball that you're probably imagining.
00:06:52
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But I mean, like 450 bench in 315. I mean, in high school, I was strong as shit. But yeah, I was definitely fat as shit as well. That's incredible. So yeah, and then I started, I started questioning right around the time I was studying philosophy, I started like looking more into nutrition, because I was just trying to dial it in, make myself healthier, lose some weight. And then I started listening to some podcasts like Ben Greenfield, and
Health, Wellness, and Societal Norms
00:07:21
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Who's my guy? Chris? Chris Cresser? Chris Cresser. Yeah. I listened to Chris Cresser, Rhonda Patrick, like all of those kinds of people. And I just started figuring out about the Flexner report and how the government, the food pyramid and how it made people obese and stuff like that.
00:07:44
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And like, basically all of the government health advice just led us in the complete wrong direction. And it wasn't just that they weren't just wrong, but they were intentionally covering it up. So I'm just like, wait, what the hell? Like I was never a conspiratorial guy. I think I had watched a 9-11 doc once and I was just like, whoa, what the fuck happened there? But then like kind of stopped questioning everything altogether.
00:08:08
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But then this brought me back to it and I was just like, whoa, this is, this is crazy. And then so I was listening to Joe Rogan and Eddie Bravo comes on and he's talking about flat earth. I'm like, you know what? I don't know about flat earth, but I like, I like listening to conspiracies. Like this is fun. It's like a thought experiment kind of thing, like with philosophy. So then Eddie Bravo on the Joe Rogan podcast, he's like, yeah, I go on a tinfoil hat all the time with Sam Tripoli.
00:08:37
Speaker
So I started listening to that. And the very first episode is Monica Perez and Brad Binkley. And they're talking about Laura Gayler Silsby and how she trafficked like 33 children. What's the, what's the island? I'm totally blanking now. The Epstein Island? No, not Epstein Island. It was, they had just had a really bad tsunami. Oh, um, Haiti? Haiti?
00:09:06
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I'm totally blanking now. But as soon as it came up, Haiti. Haiti. Did I say Tahiti? Oh, Tahiti? Yeah. Hello there. Haiti. So Laura Gayler still has to be traffic 33 children,
Biohacking and Health Practices
00:09:20
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or was trying to traffic 33 children before she was caught by the Haitian authorities. And Bill Clinton had to end up bailing her out. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the hell?
00:09:33
Speaker
And then I started looking in deeper from there and it just kept leading me down more and more rabbit holes until I finally got to the vaccine thing. And I was like, Oh my God. Like even back then, dude, I almost feel like back then it was worse to be an anti-vaxxer. Being an anti-vaxxer was tantamount to being like a Holocaust denier. I mean, you are just- When you say back then, how many years ago are we talking? 2018.
00:09:57
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Okay. Yeah. I mean, 2018, it was still like, if you're an anti-vaxxer, you're just a completely schizophrenic, like schizoid, all of the rest of the things. I remember telling my cousin, he was having a baby at the time. And so as I wanted to do at Christmas Eve, our Christmas Eve party where the whole family gets together, I was like, Hey man, no, you just had a baby. You might want to look into like the vaccine schedule and its effects on
00:10:27
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Not, not only autism, but you know, all of these various psychological disorders that are happening with kids nowadays, ADD, ADHD. Cause I know that there was that famous experiment that was done by Dr. James Lyons Wheeler and who was the other gentleman?
00:10:47
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where they had like 500 kids who were vaccinated, 500 kids who were unvaccinated. And they found that not a single unvaccinated child had like ADHD or ADD, but then like 60% of the vaccinated kids had one of the two. It was pretty crazy. So I was just telling my cousin about this. I'm like, you might want to look into it in case your kid is like, my cousin's an anti-vaxxer.
00:11:10
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Oh my god. Bro, I just looked into it. And I think that there's a lot of weird shit going on over there. So yeah, so basically how
Nutritional Insights and Metabolic Health
00:11:20
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it started and then snowballed into this whole thing.
00:11:23
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I'll tell you one thing that I like to say to people that are, you an anti-vaxxer, dude? Yeah. I'll tell you, like there is no doctor or PhD or parent that has looked into the vaccines thing and then continued to be pro vaccines. Not one, unless they're like completely like medically, like not well as in like the, the, the maybe what, what's, what's.
00:11:52
Speaker
Politically correct term for retarded now. I'm just one blank in here. Mentally challenged, learning, learningly disabled, learning. Or mental as they say in the UK.
00:12:06
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fucking crazy, dude. Not one sane person with a functioning brain and psyche that looks into, even sometimes 100 pages of a book will be enough to see. And then how
Gut-Brain Connection
00:12:20
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many people
00:12:23
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parents in their 30s, 40s, they start telling, oh yeah, these, these pharma companies, they're just profiteering off us, the disease business, this and that. And then they're fully, fully boosted. Their kids are all fully vaccinated. It's like, wait,
00:12:39
Speaker
They're doing all this criminal activity in the name of profit and possibly even some worse stuff, but somehow they're really good about the vaccines because otherwise we'll all be dying of color or whatever, tetanus or I don't even know what else, measles, mumps, rubella, et cetera. You know what I mean? What sort of mental gymnastics are going on in the head of a person like that, I wonder sometimes.
00:13:04
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I really think it is just like straight up brainwashing. I mean, people, my friends, I mean, I have plenty of liberal liberal friends, not saying that I'm conservative. I'm mainly anarchist. This is my like political
Privacy Concerns with Health Data
00:13:20
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philosophy. But I really do think it's
00:13:25
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mass mind control where, you know, people are just being told exactly on the news. And then you ask them, it's like, Oh, you're just, you're just, you know, regurgitating whatever you saw on CNN. It's like, Oh, I don't watch CNN. But it's like the CNN implanted narrative that's filtered through all of these forms of media that they digest wholesale. And then they're told because in the same messaging that says the vaccine is safe and effective is also the opposite of anybody who's questioning the vaccine is
00:13:54
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crazy, and you should not believe them. And here's why. And so then they give you all of these regurgitated things about VAERS, like, oh, VAERS, nobody trusts VAERS. So like, what? We trusted VAERS all of these years, but now all of a sudden, we don't trust VAERS at all. And they're saying like, oh, VAERS is wildly over reported.
00:14:16
Speaker
What? We've known for years that VARES is totally underreported.
Organic Food and Supplementation
00:14:21
Speaker
That's like so much time to enter all that data. Like maybe one in 20, one in a hundred doctors are actually doing all of that work because they don't get paid when they're doing that.
00:14:34
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. It's completely insane. So I mean, people are just giving these ridiculous ludicrous talking points that they've never even looked into. And then they just regurgitate it as if, you know, they're informed because they heard it on NPR or something like that. Um, I was actually just watching this, this interview with Derek bros. He posted it on his telegram channel recently. I can't remember the news outlet, but their disinformation
00:15:05
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their misinformation expert, NBC, it's NBC's misinformation expert. She interviewed Derek about what's going on in Utah right now and the ritual child abuse and stuff like that. And so she
Podcasting Passion and Alternative Health Views
00:15:20
Speaker
was just talking about McMartin preschool and some of these cases from the eighties, the Memphis three, and she's like, well, that was satanic panic. Like we all know that. It's like, wait, wait, wait, no, we don't all know that. Like the McMartin preschool case,
00:15:34
Speaker
We know that at the time, the FBI said it was satanic panic and it was all bullshit, but they later admitted that there were underground tunnels under the school and the first child that they brought out of, what kick-started McMartin, the whole thing, was this little boy who came home and he was bleeding through his pants on his bottom.
00:15:59
Speaker
He was taken to three different doctors. Every single doctor was like, this is 100% slam dunk like this, this child was abused. There was no question in their minds. Three different doctors, three separate doctors, three different opinions. They all gave the exact same
00:16:16
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conclusion. That's what kicked off McMartin preschool. So that kid came home from preschool and they knew straight away that he was abused. Then the FBI investigated it, covered a bunch of stuff up, and then later admitted as their one to do, like the Golf of Tonkin, like all of these other things that they've
00:16:32
Speaker
later admitted to they cover it up at first and then later on they admit oh yeah it was all true like you got us kind of thing like they've done the same thing with COVID but the point that I was making is that this misinformation expert just swallowed wholesale because she's heard it reiterated so many different times that it was satanic panic nothing happened at McMartin preschool even though there were underground tunnels even though there was a satanic altar
00:16:58
Speaker
like in the underground tunnels, even though this kid was diagnosed by three different doctors as being abused, it was just satanic panic. I mean, it doesn't get any crazier than that, in my opinion. And it really just shows the brainwashing that NBC and NPR, CNN, and all of the other three letters, same with the Fox News crowd, I'm not gonna let them go either.
Mindset and Health Optimization
00:17:20
Speaker
They're all under the same kind of brainwashing, whether it's from the right or the left, in my opinion.
00:17:28
Speaker
Yeah, dude, I mean, it's so easy to just say it was this, it was that.
00:17:34
Speaker
People don't want to hear the gory details. It's pretty damn disturbing, I can see. But those people in those places, I don't even know, are they ignorant? They're getting paid enough. It's a cushy job. So you just don't rock the boat, dude. It's like all of these doctors with this COVID nonsense, right? A lot of these doctors know that these vaccines harm. A lot of pediatricians
00:18:03
Speaker
They know, they know how many parents actually are coming back to them. And they're like, Oh, my, my kid, this, my kid, that now all neurological delays and stuff. And these doctors, dude, know what, why else?
00:18:20
Speaker
are the suicide rates of doctors the highest of any profession. It's not because of the long hours. A lot of people work long hours, a lot of entrepreneurs and this and that. And when you're making a positive difference in the world, you swallow it and then you keep working and you're happy and you're fulfilled at least. But it's the same reason why cops in the military, they also have very high suicide rates because you were working towards an agenda you were not aware of.
00:18:50
Speaker
And now your paycheck depends on you continuing to ignore it while you're harming innocent people. And I think that of course, unless you're a psychopath, that is going to lead you to want to take your life or something or go get medicated by one of your fellow drug pushers.
00:19:12
Speaker
Right. And, you know, especially in our space, you know, you mentioned the police just doing their job. I mean, that's one of the biggest things, you know, I went from being like on the right, like supporting Trump and, you know, being a total bootlicker cop lover. But then once you understand like what police are really doing, enforcing laws that they don't believe in. And, you know, I get a ton of pushback on this, especially like being in the freedom community, because a lot of people are on the right.
00:19:40
Speaker
A lot of people are conservative minded or they have a dad that's in the forest or something like that. But I mean, during COVID lockdowns and stuff like that, who were kicking people out of stores for not wearing masks?
00:19:54
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, some store employees tried, but usually they would call the cops and the cops would remove you who were issuing citations for not wearing masks or doing things that were anti the COVID lockdowns. That was the cops. They were just doing their job. I mean, if you look at it, they're enforcing laws that they don't believe in. I mean, I got told by several cops because, you know, I was one of those guys that wouldn't wear a mask or something. It's like, hey, man, you know, I don't agree with it, but you know, it is.
00:20:22
Speaker
You cannot put that beautiful chiseled jaw behind a mask of bullshit. That is bullshit. Unacceptable. And going to what we were originally talking about is, you know, all of these experts, like this NBC misinformation expert that believes in, you know, it was just all satanic panic. Monica Perez, she made up this phrase and it's hote propaganda.
00:20:51
Speaker
So it's like propaganda for the educated individual, for people who are college educated, people who have their master's, people who have their PhDs. It's propaganda specifically engineered to convince those people. So, Alex Zacharis of Skeptico, maybe my favorite podcast of all time. He had on this
00:21:14
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MIT PhD professor who was convinced because of the scientific literature that masks were absolutely essential and stopped the spread of disease. So Alex is like, Hey, man, I'm a PhD. Come on my podcast. He has PhDs on all the time, by the way, so he can like throw his weight around with a lot of very educated individuals. And so this guy comes on MIT PhD.
00:21:41
Speaker
And he's like, all right, here's all my studies. So like before they even do the thing, they, they swap studies. Like, here's what I'm looking at. Here's what I'm looking at.
00:21:49
Speaker
So then they go on the podcast and every single study that this PhD from MIT referenced was, had a statistically insignificant result. And Alex showed him that he's like, Hey man, the P value on this is statistically insignificant. He's like, you shouldn't know that. And so this guy that was educated, that was telling all of these people and people, you know, the authority bias, the authority fallacy,
00:22:16
Speaker
they're like, Oh, he's an MIT PhD. He's saying he's all these papers and literature. He knows exactly what he's talking about. Meanwhile, Alex, who's an educated individual has a PhD himself. He knows about P values as statistically significant results. He's like, Hey man, those aren't statistically significant at all. And as a matter of fact, they actually show more of my case than yours. And it was a complete slam dunk interview. I've never,
00:22:44
Speaker
Seen an ass whooping that bad or heard one because I just listened to it this one. You gotta send me this one. Oh Yeah, I definitely will Know yeah, what's the guy's name that's got interviewed? Sorry, what was the guy's name? They got interviewed on Alex's podcast I want to say his first name is Dan, but I can't remember his last name I'm gonna have to look in Alex's archives and send it over. I think I like them Sounds like a bloodbath
00:23:14
Speaker
It was awesome. I said it to my girlfriend at the time and she was just like, holy shit. Because Alex just destroyed this guy. I mean, took no prisoners. And I had Alex on my show and I was debating him about whether viruses existed or not.
00:23:34
Speaker
Cause like I got really big into that. I read like five different books and I just like studied, studied, studied. I was, I was just doing a ton of research into it. And so me and Alex started getting into it and he's like, Ryan viruses are absolutely real because virus. What he's a virus. And he, dude, he, he hates that people like are questioning viruses. Well, he, the example that he,
00:24:03
Speaker
gave to me, well, there's two different ones. He's like, dude, there's six different guys that have isolated the COVID virus. He's like, you're going to call them all shills. They're all like misinformation. They're all just like towing the government line. I was like, I'm not saying that, but maybe like viruses are something that
00:24:21
Speaker
They've been misdiagnosed, right? So there's the whole exosome theory that exosomes are actually what people thought were viruses. And instead of the chicken and the egg thing where you see this infection and then you see all of these viruses around it, maybe it's not the viruses causing the infection, but maybe it's the exosomes
00:24:44
Speaker
trying to quell the infection and that's why they're all pooling in that specific area. So maybe it's just been misdiagnosed like that. But Alex gave me the example of the polio vaccine and how one of the guys who was chiefly responsible for promoting it, he brought both of his grandchildren on stage.
00:25:10
Speaker
He's like, I'm gonna prove to you right now that this vaccine is safe. And he gave it to both of his grandkids. One died like that night and another one got like severe polio and was never the same. And so it was just, he's like, he injected, so Alex says, he injected a virus into them and the virus wreaked havoc. I'm like, he injected poison into them and the poison fucked them up. That's where I'm coming from.
00:25:38
Speaker
So I haven't done the exact etymology myself, but apparently virus means poison in, uh, in Latin or something like that. Who knows, man. I mean, I think it's just poisons that are responsible for us getting sick.
00:25:57
Speaker
I mean, that's why I've got a whole course 13 hours long on all about detoxifying your body and protecting yourself and reducing toxic exposures. I strongly believe this is one of the biggest causes of disease. You don't even need to be really smart and you do a bit of research. It's so evident. It's disease. It's toxic exposure of various kinds.
00:26:27
Speaker
poor nutrition, the two couples together amplify each other and then you put an unprecedented level of stress like in the modern society that we have and that just will push anybody over the edge. What really matters is how lucky you are in terms of how well you've eaten or are eating, maybe you're
00:26:48
Speaker
you're smart enough or lucky enough to know you need to supplement your diet and you need to learn these stress reduction strategies because all of what is being pushed even to be honest, I stopped listening to Ben Greenfield a while ago. I like his stuff.
00:27:06
Speaker
Personally, I think it's too advanced for the regular person that's not even doing basic stuff, too. Basic food and water, you know what I mean? But what I don't really like is a lot of these big influencers, Gary Vayner. I'm not saying I don't like them. I like them as people, and they're really awesome.
00:27:28
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inspirational, but what they're influencing is this culture of hustle, go get it, go get it, you know, burn the candle with both hands. You know, you're going to wake up 4 a.m., intermittent fast, drink your bulletproof coffee, cold plunge, you know, go do a fasted run, swim into the ice cold river, all this shit. And then at the end of the day,
00:27:57
Speaker
It's fine when you're 25 or 30, when you still don't feel the stress and you actually run on the stress, it's giving you a buzz. That's why people are adrenaline junkies, adrenaline, cortisol. These give you that buzz and you think it's all good, this endurance running, crossfit. And then you're 35, 40, you wonder why you can't conceive.
00:28:20
Speaker
you know, or why you have low libido or Why it's everything is getting harder. You can't think you have brain fog and then you go to the doctor and then he tells you look that's what happens when you get old and if he tells you that Maybe you got lucky because if he thought there's something wrong with you and he started treating you He will probably make you a whole lot worse Well, what about that's that's really interesting I've
00:28:51
Speaker
influenced by the cold plunge thing. I was doing like cold plunges every day for like two months. And, uh, recently Mike Mutzel, who I'm a really big fan of high intensity health, he had on a guy talking about how if you do cold exposure before a workout, you actually substantially increase your testosterone. So are you saying that all of these various modalities that are being introduced
00:29:11
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I really got some
00:29:21
Speaker
as biohacking tools are actually negatively impacting our health in the long term? That's precisely what I'm saying. I'll tell you, I have a neighbor here. We became friends recently and I see him running every evening and then we talked about, he told me he was 40 kilograms heavier, which is about 90 pounds, very substantial weight loss he achieved.
00:29:45
Speaker
He told me what he does, so one meal a day and then fasted running, coffee all day, working really hard. And I told him, dude, you're 31. He's like, I don't feel it. I'm telling you, you're stressing your body. He's like, I don't feel it. I'm like, dude, when I was 30, I was training for a Thai boxing fight, had a full-time job. I was drinking after training with a coach and the other fighters were going partying, smoking cigarettes.
00:30:11
Speaker
doing stupid things. I was on a vegan diet drinking soy protein shakes of all things, you know, I could do so many stupid things when you're like 25 30 up to 35 maybe even but these things they what they what they do is they
00:30:28
Speaker
dip into your what i like to call the vital reserve you can call it whatever else you can call it the adaptive energy right so you have this let's say reservoir of energy that you used to adapt to stressors so one stressor.
00:30:45
Speaker
may be good, let's say exercise. But if you start doing, let's say exercise, let's say you're doing CrossFit, that's already a big stressor. Now, if you add to that low carb, you're stressing your body more. If you start doing cold plunges, you're doing more. Now, if you have an intellectual job and you're using your brain a lot, which is the most energy-hungry organ in
00:31:07
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that we know of in the known universe, the most sophisticated machine. So if you're actually doing a lot of mental labor, you're an athlete in many ways, or at least you should be taking care of yourself as an athlete. So if you've got these multiple things, and then you do fasting because fasting upregulates autophagy,
00:31:28
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or whatever sound bite we've been told which again there's when they dig deeper into at first it's like oh this upregulates such and such gene you know resveratrol upregulates sirtuins longevity and then they did some trials with resveratrol and i think some people died because it's a highly estrogenic fight to estrogen right so there's always there's always deeper layers to the story so with fasting yeah dude you can do these things they can be therapeutic but um
00:31:55
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we are doing too much thinking it's the culture that it's a disease sick culture and we think more more is always better when we should actually be thinking at least where I'm at I'll be 40 quite soon in a couple of years I'm thinking what are ways to de-stress my day so I have more life in my ears and more years in my life because this stress is a killer when you actually when you look deeply into it all of these diseases
00:32:24
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They have very similar characteristics, even like diabetes, cancer, obesity, a bunch of these diseases. They have very similar characteristics as you would have doing fasting or keto, right? In terms of biology, biochemistry. That's really interesting.
00:32:52
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Huh, because I'm really big into a lot of that stuff. I was thinking about getting a sauna. Sauna is good. You like sauna? Yeah, but again, it's one of those things it's good to do, but should we be doing it twice a day, every day for the rest of our days? I don't think so, but definitely a little bit.
00:33:17
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And it doesn't, again, we don't have to put ego in it. I actually use my red light and near infrared light therapy lamp. I use that behind me, or I face it, and then I have an infrared lamp, you know, those red bulbs with the heat emitting. Dude, that's enough. Even now it's September. It's enough to get me sweating in the morning.
00:33:37
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a little bit of sweat in a parasympathetic state goes a long way actually probably detox much more than what you would in the gym or doing exercise so sonos good no shit that's really interesting to to know so what do you think about
00:33:58
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the cold plunge before exercise, increasing testosterone. So that would seem like it is increasing libido, but do you think it's too taxing, too many stressors? The question is for how long, right? For how long is it doing that? If it's doing it for 24 hours, but then your testosterone is depressed in the net, it's probably not a good idea. If it's raising it
00:34:25
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for a week, maybe that's a good thing. But if you look at, I forget what was the study, was it fasting? A fairly short-term fast, I think it was, not a term of fasting, but like maybe a four-day fast. They measured the biomarkers of stress, cortisol, all that good stuff, and androgen, zestrogens. So a month after that short fasting period,
00:34:48
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the cortisol was still high, was higher than baseline. So yeah, we have to understand like, think about fasting and keto. What signal is the body being sent? We are not in a state of abundance. So you are, as much as you feel good, you are in a state of stress and the body will respond accordingly in order to, because it's really good at survival, it will
00:35:16
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do everything to protect itself. And you are one, of course, with the body. But it starts to down-regulate higher functions, including things like joy, connectedness to spirit, fertility, even things like hair, non-essential functions, higher thought, you know,
00:35:39
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cognition at a high level, these things are some of the first things to get down regulated when you're in a state of stress and this is a state of stress. No matter what anybody tells you, if you look at the biomarkers and the things that are happening in a body that's fasting or in ketosis or even doing low carb, they're indicators that the body is in a stress or at least it's perceiving so.
00:36:03
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Hmm. Cause I know that the argument would be, Oh, I'm intermittent fasting and doing keto. So my body is just using ketones and burning fat for fuel is like what the, the standard line would be. And I'm wondering what the line is between like hormesis, like a stress that makes you stronger or like, actually you're starting to do harm now. It's just compiling too many stressors all at once. Exactly. That's the thing. And doing them repetitively.
00:36:32
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That's the thing about hormesis we're talking. It's like when they say alcohol is a hormetic stressor. Well.
00:36:39
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How much alcohol do you need to get a hormetic response? It's something like a tablespoon or two tablespoons of alcohol. It's very little amount. So definitely these things really add up. And for whatever reason, we seem to think that, again, sitting here at a computer, do engage in mental labor.
00:37:04
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It's Chris, it's John. He just got done with the weapon. It's John. How are you, buddy? It is a live podcast. My biography of Elon Musk. Oh, the Musk. Oh, he is beautiful. How are you doing, bro? I'm good. Good. Stay busy. Yeah. Stay busy. Yeah. I just started writing a new book this week. I was studying Ryan earlier. Yeah. Oh, we got some copies of the book you sent. Thank you for that. Yeah. My pleasure. My pleasure. Okay, cool. All right. I'll let Ryan warn you.
00:37:35
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Yeah, so I think we forget the fact that it's easy to gloss over the fact that sitting at the computer here, doing mental labor, being on the phone, whether it's with clients, respective clients,
00:37:48
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employees, vendors. These things, a lot of these activities, working on deadlines, being in traffic, these things upregulate the stress hormones in very similar ways as if you're in the jungle getting chased around by a lion or whatever else. So we forget that that chronically elevated stress, it also opposes the more protective hormones like androgens like testosterone and all the others.
00:38:18
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progesterone, which is also important in men's health. And dude, we forget these things. So we already have very stressful lifestyles. You know, you're looking at, you're looking at the Jones's on social media and you're like those feelings or like your ex-girlfriend and you see her with another guy or whatever, like with, uh, you're like stress and, and negative feelings. So this hormonal milieu in the body,
00:38:44
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is very detrimental. It takes a lot of adaptive energy to overcome this. And then if at the end of the day, you know, you go for a workout to blow off some steam, you're adding on top of this bucket of stress and you just, it fills up and fills up. Again, when you're young, when we are young, we got a massive bucket and it's not full. But the older you get, drop by drop or cup full by cup full, that bucket is slowly getting filled up. And what I
00:39:14
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the paradigm shift for me was I want to be metabolically healthy every single day. And I might not be, you know, super ripped or super won't be able to, I can sprint well. Maybe that's my probably my best thing I can do is I can sprint I can't lift a lot.
00:39:33
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But metabolically, I know that this is the way to longevity. And then I can in the summer, maybe lose a couple of LBs back on a couple in the winter. But dude, I'm married. I have a kid. I don't have anything to prove. I don't have that kind of young person's ego. Not that you have. I'm not saying that you have. But a lot of us, when we're young, we have this ego of, you know how they say youth is wasted on the young. If I had known this stuff 20 years ago, I probably wouldn't have
00:40:03
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I would not have aged as much as I have, for example, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I was, uh, do you know carnivore Aurelius? No. Okay. He's this, uh, he's got a huge Instagram channel and, uh, you know, basically he's, uh, all about, um, eating animal based and, but, you know, a lot of honey and fruit and stuff like that, like Paul Saladino asked. Yeah. I love Paul. And he was, he was talking about.
00:40:33
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He was referencing this study where it was two groups of males and one group was doing intermittent fasting and the other group was just eating normally three, four or five meals a day.
00:40:48
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And the group that was doing intermittent fasting had substantially lower testosterone than the group that was just like eating maintenance or maybe even surplus calories because I guess testosterone is just produced in a state of abundance rather than a state of scarcity as you were just saying. Totally. For example, the more you eat, the more likely it is you'll be eating fat, saturated fat, which is
00:41:14
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You know, a source of, can be a source of cholesterol and the body will have more substrate and energy and glucose and just calories to do more things. Let's say, think about this way. Let's say for ease of the example, you need 2000 calories today, right? For optimal metabolic function. If you eat 2000 calories, you're sorted. If you eat 2100 calories,
00:41:44
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Now you're gonna be storing fat, but if you eat 1900 calories, what happens? Well, it seems like the body...
00:41:55
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It's so intelligent that it will triage where the nutrients go. So it won't, you know, use energy to rebuild something in your, you know, your collagen in your skin before it, you know, takes care of the brain, the heart, the organs, you know, kidneys, liver spleen, et cetera, et cetera. So the nice two halves take a backseat. When you're teetering on subclinical
00:42:23
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deficiency of nutrients, similar things happen. So when you're teetering on this, what the body compensates via other mechanisms, for example, if it needs
00:42:33
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If there's a lot of toxins coming in, like most of us are exposed to quite a lot of things over the course of a day, even though they're minute, they're cumulative. So if it needs calcium for whatever reason, it will pull it out of the bone. Or zinc, it can break down muscle tissue to get the amino acids for the detoxification enzymes. And then that zinc that is there, it can be used for more vital functions, like in the immune system, for example.
00:42:58
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you are slowly actually cannibalizing yourself. And when you're stressed on top of this, the cortisol literally, it literally attaches to your tissues, soft and bone, and it literally causes them to break down so they can be turned into glucose because that's its role to keep your blood sugar stable so you don't collapse and die or fall into a coma. So if we're at this kind of deficit, and this deficit can be achieved even by
00:43:27
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One nutrient being quite deficient in the diet, like if you're a vegetarian or a vegan especially, you don't get enough zinc and you don't supplement. Just zinc alone or magnesium alone can start this process. And then other things, you might have all the cofactors needed for a whole pipeline.
00:43:45
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but one, and that whole pipeline might have to stop until that magnesium or whatever cofactor or coenzyme is there. So again, we shuttle things to the high priority areas. That's why some people age faster. Well, it's because they're not optimal in terms of stress reduction,
00:44:08
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toxin reduction and supplying the nutrition required and the energy. And the body is triaging, triaging, triaging and their skin is taken a backseat. Maybe their hair is taken a backseat. Definitely their libido, their fertility will take a backseat. So I think when you break it down logically like that, it makes a ton of sense. Right. You know what?
00:44:32
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Well, and one thing to touch on that point is, uh, you know, you see a lot of vegans and they have that, that vegan look where it's like their frail, their, their brittle, their abnormally thin, their hair looks thin. Like, I don't know. You see that a lot with vegans. I mean, Derek, um, Derek bros, I mean, he, he's vegan and he always looks great. So, uh, you could never really even tell, but then it's just other vegans, like, uh, you know, not to talk shit or anything. And I love Pam Popper, but.
00:45:03
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You know, sometimes I see Pam Popper and she's a huge like, oh, you got to eat vegetable base and all this kind of stuff. Be vegan, meat's not healthy, all these things, this study, that study, her and I just, she has that look, that gaunt look where it's just like, bro, I don't think you're optimally like healthy.
00:45:25
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I think if you just ate a little bacon here and there, maybe a couple of cheeseburgers, you might be like completely optimal. Maybe vegetables have a role to play. I don't know. But for me, like I just, I just started introducing like, uh, bell peppers and onions into my diet. Cause you know, right now I'm cutting and I'm working with a trainer and, uh, you know, just trying to get lean. So I'm cannibalizing myself. Right. Um, and so I just, I just want to, sorry.
00:45:53
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You're mostly meat-based, right? Yeah, mostly meat-based. I eat meat and fruit, basically like Saladino recommends, except I don't do honey. No milk? I love, there's a farm in town, they do raw goat's milk and it's absolutely a phenomenal product. And also their cheese. It's just too, it's too many calories to like budget into the thing. Goat milk is so fatty. At the moment.
00:46:23
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You're on 1900 calories. Yeah. Are you serious bro? You must feel horrible. Why?
00:46:32
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I mean, here's the thing is, uh, well, hold on. I'll finish the onions. So I put bell peppers and onions back into my diet. And I notice all of this like gut dysbiosis, gas, bloating, water retention, like all of these things, diarrhea, like as soon as I add vegetables back into the mix. Now I know that onions are kind of like famous for that, right?
00:47:02
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Yeah, Ben Greenfield used to talk about it all the time, um, that when he would like pile on onions into his, into his diet, he would have a lot of gas and bloating. So I definitely noticed it right away. And so now I got to cut them right back out. I feel way better when I'm just eating meat and fruit, but, but yeah. So I mean, I've been cutting for the last month and a half and I got another month and a half to go, but, uh, sorry.
00:47:32
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What's your body fat, roughly? Or what are you shooting for, rather? I'd like to be 10%. Nice. But right now, I don't know what it is, to be honest with you. But I was 210, now I'm 194.
00:47:50
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The weird thing is that my strength is going up every single week, even though I've been eating in a deficit for the last month and a half. I mean, I do take in a lot of creatine. I do five grams of creatine and then there's creatine and this drink that I drink and it's got glutamine and BCAAs, which I know the BCAAs aren't as good as essential amino acids. Ben Greenfield's talked about that at length on his podcast, but it's also got
00:48:18
Speaker
Yeah, just glutamine creatine, BCAAs. So like all the good things for recovery and it doesn't have any artificial sweeteners. So I really like. How do they, how do they make it not taste like death? It actually tastes phenomenal. And you look at the ingredients, nothing on there. They don't have any. Stevia maybe. That's super sweet. Yeah, that's probably it. Organic Reb A, which is organic. Nice.
00:48:48
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Very nice. Yeah. Yeah. So, and then everything is like organic and I mean, it's just got a ton of vitamins and all of this really good stuff and it's sour, great flavor. It tastes phenomenal. I really like it's called fit aid is the brand. That's amazing. I like their stuff. I also drink Jaco energy drinks before I go to the gym.
00:49:09
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It's only 95 milligrams of caffeine because I used to drink like the, the bane energy drink is like 300 millis. And then I started looking into the more caffeine that you have, the more lower zinc levels and the more susceptible susceptible you are to
00:49:25
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infections and getting sick and stuff like that. So, um, I definitely monitor my caffeine intake. I only do like maybe 140 milligrams a day. Keep it. Cause I think it's when you start pushing that 400 milligram threshold is when you really start losing the ton of zinc. So I try and keep it under 200, but, uh, yeah, I totally got sick. Do you take zinc and other minerals?
00:49:54
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No, I don't. I, I take, uh, I take a desiccated beef Oregon supplement and it's, you know, it's got the whole factor. Let all of the, all of the beef organs. Um, I take that as my supplement for like my nutrient base. I'd like to incorporate more liver. It's just, it's just hard to stomach, bro. I mean, bro, I had liver before we started this call. I had a bunch of liver, cooked up some for my wife, my kid, but
00:50:24
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Definitely when I saw you today, you look different. That must be because of your cut, bro. I was like, yeah, you definitely looked much more cut to me. Yeah, I think I was probably over 200 pounds the last time we talked and now I'm 194. And I mean, like, I don't know, dude, I've always been like the bigger guy. I told you I was 260. And so like, I've always been bigger. I just want to be I just want to have abs. I mean, holy shit.
00:50:50
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But I know, I know the trade-off I'm like, like we've been talking about when you're that lean like testosterone production dips, all of that kind of stuff. But I'd like to at least do it at some point in my life. Listen, after the call, hang on for a few minutes. I'm going to give you the cheat codes, bro. The cheat codes, let's go. The cheat codes, baby. Oh yeah, the shortcuts. Oh yeah. You're going to get them a few months before they get published.
00:51:20
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Perfect. All right. I'm in well one other one other thing that I wanted to talk to you about is My girlfriend has horrible eczema and she did this eczema diet plan That you know was supposed to help it seems it's like her symptoms have only gotten worse She gets it really bad on her hands like these. Oh these pustules on her hands and she just can't stop scratching and
00:51:48
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They won't go away. So, I mean, she eats really clean. She's only like 115 pounds, like 5'7", 115. She's like real thin. She eats a really clean diet and mostly organic. So it's just hard to pinpoint like what exactly is going on there. We think it may be some kind of like childhood vaccine injury because she's been dealing with it all of her life, but... Well, since what age did you start dealing with it? I mean, I'd have to go back and ask her, but she says she's only been dealing with it.
00:52:17
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Yeah, let's maybe talk about that after as well privately because obviously we don't want to start. Your girlfriend might not want to start telling all her details about her life here on the record. Right, right. It's just interesting because she tried improving her gut and all of that stuff. And it just it didn't seem to help. She does like a lot of what she was doing bone broth fast and stuff like that, like trying to improve her gut microbiome. Bone broth fast. Yeah.
00:52:47
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Bro, listen, if you want, we can arrange, I can get a Stu test kit sample sent to your address and she could just, you know, put a little sample in and we can
00:53:00
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give it to the courier, send it off to the lab. It's a really good, I think it's the first FDA approved stool test. It's a really good one, a really good company I work with. And more often than not, it's gonna be skin stuff, even psoriasis, a lot of autoimmune stuff.
00:53:20
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it's going to be something in the gut. We're going to most likely pinpoint a very significant, if not the significant cause or factor there, and then I can show you what to do, you know? Okay. All right. Yeah. I just wanted to bring it up because I know you're the expert on all things. Yeah, bro. These things?
00:53:42
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Generally, when we figure out what's going on in the gut, after that, it's fairly smooth sailing. It just may take a while because, of course, the immune system is involved. So anything you add to, if the gut is somehow imbalanced, let's say there's
00:54:01
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increase intestinal permeability or certain gram negative bacteria that are producing these endotoxins or lipopolysaccharides. If we can figure out what's up and kind of knock those numbers down and improve the ecology of the gut, we still then
00:54:20
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You have to give the immune system time to calm down, to down regulate antibody production and so on and so forth. That can take time and you have to do things in a pretty pristine way to get the fastest and best results, which is why I'm glad that what you already said about diet lifestyle seems to already be
00:54:39
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pretty dialed in. I'm sure if your diet and lifestyle stuff is pretty dialed in, it's usually the partner is usually in that ballpark. So that's always a promising thing. Right, right. I don't know. What else should we bullshit about? Let's see. I had some notes. Don't nobody say, I don't prepare for these interviews.
00:55:11
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Oh, I love, I love doing this, bro. I just really love this podcast. The people I've met like yourself and John and just all the other people are just amazing, amazing people. I feel so blessed. It's not even anymore. It's all about, I'm not trying to be the next big podcast. I know all the big, the big dogs, they have their podcasts. You're going to have them tens of thousands or millions of listeners. And I'm not trying to compete with them. I'm doing this now for the love. It's all about the numbers. It's all about,
00:55:40
Speaker
I was joking with my wife when I, just as I was about to start this podcast, I had like maybe 10 guests lined up to interview, not launched yet. And I was like, I want to, to one day get sponsors like that clear light sauna guys that you know, the clear lights on us.
00:55:58
Speaker
Ben Greenfield, Dave Asprey, they were all sponsoring all those big podcasts. They had amazing Swedish-made saunas, these amazing units. But actually, when we bought our apartment a couple of years ago, I budgeted and I got one of their lie-down sauna units. It was a couple of grand, but far infrared, really non-toxic materials. And I said to myself, well, I got my sauna. I don't need a massive sauna now.
00:56:28
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I don't need sponsors, you know what I mean? I'm going to be the sponsor. I'm just going to do this, connect with awesome people. And this is what I love doing. Actually, you kind of already got me on the track. I wanted to talk about your training, your supplements. We kind of touched on that a bit. What about blood work? Have you done any blood work in recent months or years?
00:56:51
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So being a conspiracy theorist, I'm super guarded about giving out my blood. I don't know. I know it's like some kind of schizophrenic thing that I just don't know what's going to be done with it. Are they going to store it? It's like the FDA or Moderna at some point going to have availability to that blood sample and make a tailor a vaccine specific to like my
00:57:18
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you know, my DNA, I mean, like, I just get so weirded out about that stuff. Like the place next door to us, they do blood testing. And they're like, hey, we just got a new machine. If you guys want to come over, send your neighbors, you know, we'll give you will do a free blood panel. I'm like, fuck no. I'm like, I'm not giving you my blood. Nothing. Nothing is for free.
00:57:38
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Are you keeping it? Are you throwing it away? Are you gonna drink my blood? Are you gonna drink my blood? It's absolutely something that I need to do because I mean like in order to be truly healthy you need to know your numbers, right? Where do you stand on piss? Okay, you don't want to give away your blood. How would you feel about giving away your piss?
00:58:05
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It seems like an easier thing to get rid of, but I bet you're about to tell me that you can find as much information and piss as you can in blood. Well, I was listening to a podcast of the lab that I work with. We do this organic test, organic acids tested to urine test and the guy
00:58:24
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They were doing a workshop mostly for doctors. But I got there in Spain about four years ago. And he was presenting one of their top doctors on the panel. Their trainer, doctors, was presenting about autism, the latest findings of the lab. And I spoke to the guy, great man. He used to work for the CDC and everything, like really smart guy. Could have been a Nobel Prize winner probably. And he had a chance. That's that caliber of guy. Anyway.
00:58:54
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So they're doing this organic acid test for a bunch of different markers. And I asked him, started asking him about what we can find in the urine.
00:59:03
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Exactly. We can detect hundreds of organic acids. It's about understanding the clinical validity. So, you know, you need to do research, you know, give somebody, let's say B1 or test their B12 status. They P before and after B supplement. And, you know, if they're B deficient and this particular marker is high, it means they're B deficient. And then if you give them B12,
00:59:30
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and that marker lowers, it means that that verifies the validity of that particular organic acid. So it takes a lot of time, a lot of work, and researchers have to get a hunch, what could this be related to based on its molecular structure and so on. So far, there's a lot of organic acids that this test, it's a simple at-home urine collection, can tell us. So the first page is all bacterial, fungal, and yeast markers. So you can see if you have Candida,
00:59:59
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You can see if you have certain Clostridia species like C. difficile, there's a few indicators that you might have fungal exposure like Aspergillus mold. Then you have B vitamin status. You can see glutathione slash antioxidant status. We can see mitochondrial.
01:00:18
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markers, so energy production, glycolytic psycho production. We can see neurotransmitter metabolites, dopamine, serotonin, a couple of other things. Neuroinflammation we can catch early. Well, I've actually caught that with some people and actually oftentimes, not oftentimes, every single time they had a gut problem. So if you have a gut problem,
01:00:45
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Though when the gut is broken down, let's say you have a gut insult, whether it's bacteria, inflammation or toxins, when they break down the gut cells, those little proteins that hold together the gut cells, they actually, some of them also make up the blood brain barrier. So if you have them circulating in the blood, the immune system creates autoantibodies like an immune type reaction.
01:01:11
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then the immune system or those antibodies can actually open up your blood brain barrier. That's why leaky gut can lead to leaky brain. I talk about that in my autism book, right? So we can catch neuroinflammation early with the quinolinic acid marker on that test. And then it's really like a red light or a red flag that we got a
01:01:36
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really ramp up the heating protocols, if you know what I mean. We can't, no more time to waste, right? So catching, it's about, this test is about evaluating the metabolism with a wide lens, catching things early. And look, if someone has a health problem, we always find something.
01:01:53
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And even the healthiest people, we always find at least two things, at least a couple of things always. So that's a good one. Yeah. And, uh, you know, that's, you know, going back to Chris Cresser, he used to talk about that kind of stuff all the time, which is why I thought it was so fascinating. He used to always talk about, you know, the gut brain connection. And I was dating this girl back in like 2016, 2017, and she had horrible depression. Oh my God, it fucking sucked.
01:02:22
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I'm just such an outgoing, happy guy. Being with someone that's totally depressed all the time, I was just like, Jesus Christ. But what I thought was really interesting, and I was listening to Chris Kresser at the time, so I knew exactly what was going on. She had horrible, horrible IBS too.
01:02:43
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And so she had this really bad depression and this really bad IBS. I'm like, it's interconnected. So I, Chris Custer used to talk about that stuff all the time because he had, he had to do a, uh, what's it called? A stool transplant, I think. Oh, fecal microbiota transplant. There you go. Cause he went to like India or something. And he swam in this river.
01:03:07
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And it was completely polluted. There were, there was a cow farm upstream and he had no idea. And so he was just swimming in like the contaminants and the waste products of all of the cows. And so he came back like fighting for his life, like super, super sick. And he fixed his gut and got like the stool transplant and everything. And he was, he was way better. And so he just talks a lot about gut health and depression issues and anxiety being directly related to problems in the gut.
01:03:35
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Absolutely, dude. I just today I started working with somebody and he just a few months ago, everything just went weird. He just, he had a, I ate some bad food three days sick. And then a week after that NASA fatigue doctors, you know, the doctors say, Oh, you're just getting old guys barely in his frigging thirties, barely in his frigging thirties. And I told him what I told you earlier, you know, it's like, it's a good thing.
01:04:04
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that to actually sometimes it's a good thing for the doctor to say look you're just getting old I can't help you or something like that and not make the problem worse because if they start sticking tubes up your butt or down your throat and those copy and all this other stuff biopsies you just never know dude you just never know what they start cutting things out removing things and giving you different pills and potions I mean yeah all of the allopathic bullshit
01:04:29
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that they do. I completely agree. Yeah. By the way, bro, I want to be respectful of your time. If, if you have, if you need to go, you let me know. Otherwise we can go for another few minutes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm down to keep going. Cool. Cause I might, might have the nanny in on today. So I have another, I have plenty of time so we can do another 10 minutes, 15 minutes if you want. Okay. Yep. Sounds good with me. I feel like we can shoot the shit for literally four hours.
01:04:56
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Yeah, no, I could keep going, especially like the health and wellness thing. I mean, that was my first love before conspiracy. But I definitely acknowledge what you're talking about with like the Ben Greenfield types and stuff like that. Well, I think that he's amazing. I mean, like, I already know like the foundational principles of health, you know, eat real food, eat organic food.
01:05:19
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all those kinds of things. But then Ben is just talking about sirtuins and telomeres and all this kind of stuff. He's like, what the fuck does that even mean? So I could see how like a newbie would just be completely lost listening to him or something like that. I think a lot of people, a lot of practitioners
01:05:44
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are confused. I think we're all a little, we get confused at times. I'm a Mercola. I'll tell you more, you know, Joe Mercola, of course, Dr. Mercola, he wrote a book, I think 2018 fat for fuel here. And there was a big keto thing, right? Yeah. And man, the keto thing, I got onto the keto thing. My wife was on the keto thing. We were on the keto thing. I put my mom on the keto thing.
01:06:08
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Yeah, we're measuring ketones, MCT oils, C8, caprylic acid, all that good stuff.
01:06:19
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Maybe in 2020, I can remember, actually, this is a Bulgarian guy also interviewed this researcher, George Dinkov, that he's very technical. He really understands stuff. And basically, he's kind of the one that convinced Markola in many ways to start eating more carbs. And I believe he introduced him to Paul Saladino.
01:06:46
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And Paul Saladino, I don't know if it's because of him or he was already introducing more honey and fruit, but this guy is all about, because he wrecked his health with the keto and the endurance exercise. So I've been listening to him a lot. I kind of stumbled onto that whole scene. What's his name? George Dinkov.
01:07:04
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So I stumbled onto this Georgie guy, and because he was Bulgarian, I just, you know, out of interest, I listened to, he was on Paul Saladino's podcast three times, and I listened to all three episodes, maybe three times each, and there weren't short episodes. And I was like, this motherfucker knows shit. You know what I mean? He knows stuff. So I started listening to him on other podcasts, and
01:07:33
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following him on a forum and reading some of his stuff on his blog and this guy do like I believe he he being exposed to this knowledge and another guy called Ray Pete who he's heard of him this really filled in a lot of gaps for me
01:07:51
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That something I feel like was missing because even I like earlier this year I was doing more kind of low-carb being and then I was doing intellectual labor and then I'm like Something is missing. I'm taking the new tropics, but something is not right. And then as soon as I started pumping the honey pumping the milk Just even like the white rice just my mental performance or at least I could go on sprayed with folic acid which the white rice
01:08:24
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No, it's organic. I think it's just rice here. It's too expensive already to add extra things in the organic food. So food is not as bad as in the USA. Luckily, I mean organic food, if you realize the importance of investing in it, it's not that bad. But yeah, this model really filled in a lot of gaps and I believe
01:08:49
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I believe, bro, most people are doing a big disservice to themselves long term to their metabolism by doing the fasting and the even cutting. I believe when you're cutting, when you cut calories,
01:09:05
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or let's say carbohydrates, what you're doing is you're sending a signal to the body that there's less food coming in obviously. So using the thyroid, it down regulates the metabolism. And this is where people then when they go back on their previous diet, they gain a few extra LBs.
01:09:23
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because they think they can eat the same as before, but maybe the body will upregulate the metabolism eventually, but it's a very slow process, just like it's a very slow process to downregulate it, it can take months. And I was looking over my blood work yesterday and today, and when I was on the Keto, bro, my thyroid, my TSH, you know, my thyroid stimulating hormone, it kept creeping up. It was still under three in the last test I checked.
01:09:54
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But it was it was creeping up there. And then my cholesterol was creeping up. And actually, one of the surest things your cholesterol value will tell you if it's high is probably that your thyroid is not working very well. It's not really so much your heart disease. We know that's BS. But there is value in the in the blood work. There's a lot is enough functional medicine experience there. What was the number?
01:10:20
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so the highest i saw today and yesterday was like 281 but i believe at one point my my cholesterol was 300 but i was you know bullet two bulletproof coffees this kind of thing all day long well not all day long but you know meat and meat and fat so it was i think i had what i saw i remember one was 300 but yeah 281 is
01:10:43
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very close to 300 and low lowering thyroid indicators of lowering thyroid function and a higher cholesterol that definitely is indicative of depressed metabolism. Yeah. Yeah, I was watching this Paul Celedino video the other day and he said that he doesn't recommend anyone go any lower than 100 carbs a day, 100 grams of carbs a day. And so I mean, that's
01:11:13
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kind of how I've been eating for a long time. Like I, I mean, yeah, I eat like a crazy amount of fruit. So I probably, I mean, I only eat like 50 to 80 grams of carbs a day. And you exercise and I exercise.
01:11:29
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A lot. And you know where, you know, and you use your mind for work, you use your brain a lot. Uh-huh. I know, because you're super, right now you're using a lot of calories because you're fucking, you're lucid, you know, you're here, you're not like, and then you're not speaking like end stage vegan or anything like that, you know. Right, or Biden. Or Biden.
01:11:49
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I think Biden didn't get the memo that vegetable and seed oils are not good. He's dunking his doughnuts in them or something, dude. There's this conspiracy. I never verified this, but someone was saying that
01:12:09
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that Biden's granddaughter came out and said, that is not my grandfather. My grandfather died four years ago. Like that is my uncle or not, not uncle, but like his brother kind of thing. And I was surprised. Who knows what to believe with any of that? I mean, conspiracy community is 90% bullshit now. I don't believe anything coming out of the conspiracy community. And also,
01:12:35
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They just talk about the flavor of the week. They're almost as bad as the mainstream media now. Every single conspiracy podcast, like when the Titanic submarine went down, they were talking about that bullshit. I mean, every single conspiracy podcast, and I hate to say it, and I love Sam to death, Tinfoil Hat is a ride or die with Tinfoil Hat.
01:12:55
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I took a bullet for Sam Tripoli. But they were fucking talking about the Titanic thing too. The submersible. And I was just like, bro, come on. We're no better than the mainstream media if we're going to fall into these traps. Yeah, man. That's why I keep going back to Charlie and macroaggressions. He's doing a great job. I think that's the first place I heard you on was macroaggressions. I was like, who the fuck is Christian Yordanov?
01:13:24
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Yeah, that's how I found you. But listen, I haven't I haven't asked either Sam or Charlie, but I have an idea for a topic on their shows that I think people will find very interesting, bro. Blockbuster shit, bro. Are you going to divulge or?
01:13:45
Speaker
I'll tell you after, I just don't want to spoil this. I'm still in the research phase. It's quite a lot of research to read and dig through and sift through what's the most relevant, because some of it I don't understand. Obviously, I'm not a biochemist or a doctor, so I have to find the relevant stuff. But there's a lot of, and it's not even being hidden so much. You just know the pharma companies, they're just really good at marketing what they want to market it.
01:14:15
Speaker
And because they're lying in the pockets of the networks, all the counter arguments for whatever we're talking about will never make it on the air. It's very well suppressed. Even though they're not necessarily actively suppressing information, it's all there. You can find it on PubMed or wherever you download your research papers. But there's a lot of stuff over the last
01:14:39
Speaker
several decades that indicates they knew a long time about the dangers of very commonly used, I don't even want to call them medications, you know, treatments. Vaccines? Oh, no, no, not vaccines. That's the, that's the golden goose or what's the, what's the, that's the golden child. No, it's not vaccines. I'll tell you after, tell you after. Yeah. I mean,
01:15:09
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I don't know, sometimes like with the vaccine conversation, like when I, I think it was when you were on tinfoil hat.
01:15:18
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You're kind of like, look, in my book, I don't talk about vaccines that much. I'm like, come on, Christian, go for the motherfucking throat, dude. Sometimes I just like, dude, go all the way. So you're like, fuck vaccines. No one should ever take a vaccine. Every single vaccine that's ever been made is bullshit. And then some people, they call me on it. They're like, oh, you wouldn't get a vitamin C, IV? Because that would be technically a vaccine. Like, shut the fuck up.
01:15:44
Speaker
I'm like, no, it wouldn't be. I'm like, it doesn't have all the adjuvants and like all this other shit. So yeah, I mean, on that one, I was just like, Come on, go for the throat. Just say vaccines are bad always and then move on with the rest of the stuff. Can I make an observation? Sorry, can I make can I make an observation? Yeah.
01:16:04
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I, please don't take this the wrong way. But you definitely, I don't know is it because it was you and John on the last time, but you definitely were more serene that last, I don't know where you tired that day? Are you more amped up today?
01:16:24
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But if you want my practitioner's opinion, I think if we were to test your cortisol at that time and compared to what your cortisol is today, your baseline cortisol may be elevated due to your lower intake of carbohydrates. Well, I'm always a pretty animated guy. If you listen to any of my podcast episodes or
01:16:52
Speaker
Like I'm also a very social guy. Like I love going out in huge group settings and like, I'll even test jokes like a comedian would. Like I'll, you know, just throw things out there that I'm like, oh, this will kill. And then I'll throw it out there and I'll totally bomb it. So I've always kind of been that guy like, anyway, but I mean, maybe so. I mean, you can definitely be right. And you definitely are right.
01:17:20
Speaker
I woke up at 5.30 this morning. I went to bed at 10.30. So like only got maybe seven hours. And then, you know, instantly wake up. And I know that you shouldn't drink caffeine in the first two hours of waking, but I do anyway, because I'm going straight to the gym. I'm about to lift. Like yesterday, I was doing 365 deadlifts at 6 a.m. No food? Yeah, I trained fasted. Bro, I know.
01:17:50
Speaker
Wait, I need to get some air. I'm gonna have a fucking I don't know stroke or some I need some training fasted. I feel like if I have food in me, it just like slows me down and I get more winded So I do prefer to train fasted like early in the morning knock that out of the way and then eat like a big breakfast And then what time are you eating breakfast? I eat breakfast at like 9 a.m.
01:18:18
Speaker
a pound of ground beef, some raw cheese. And then like today I had two oranges, but usually it's like an orange and some blackberries or some blueberries and some strawberries. I eat a lot of berries because James D. Nickel Antonio, he talks a lot about how berries are the most nutritious fruit if they're organic. So again, organic berries and I eat a lot of those.
01:18:44
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But then I also love oranges, so I just started working on oranges back then.
01:18:49
Speaker
There's an organic orange shortage here and I'm really stuck, bro. I even bought organic just regular juice and for whatever reason, even a small cup of that, I feel like it just jolts my insulin up and then some reactive hypoglycemia, whereas I can down triple the amount in freshly pressed orange juice, no problem.
01:19:14
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issues with the blood sugar. I don't know. However, it's processed. Maybe it's just less processed in that form. But yeah, I'm really missing the oranges, man. Yeah. Paul Saladino talks about the best fruit juices that you can have are watermelon, orange, mango, and coconut. He's like, those four juices, he's like, those are the absolute best. Interesting. I was drinking a lot of coconut water, but now it doesn't fit into
01:19:42
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the diet plan, the 1900 calories. How old is this guy that that that major program? You can look him up on Instagram. He's he's huge on Instagram. His name's Tanner. I'm going to send him some very strongly worded messages.
01:20:01
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Well, he's he's like one of those guys that's like a former CrossFit guy. He's like torn every ligament in his body. And he's just like kind of the mindset of, hey, man, like you just got to fucking every week you should be improving. I know he's a pleasure to work with. I'll be totally honest with you. He's very receptive and he likes to tailor my program to my needs. So I mean, I would have a pleasure to work with him. I'm sure I'm sure he's awesome. But how old is he?
01:20:32
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He's a, I want to say he's like 36, 37 and he's, he's 210 pounds, 8% body fat. Like he's just a unit of a human being. He sounds like a, you know, like a crazy genetic specimen, maybe like greenfield or something, because like, that's the problem though. Like not, I'm not saying you are, you clearly are very gifted genetically, but what really irks me bro is,
01:21:02
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I got one client, you know, she's in her 40s and her trainer put her on a powerlifting program and he's a
01:21:12
Speaker
You know, he was a power lifter and like a champion or whatever else. And he's got this woman in her 40s doing this crazy program like Jesus Christ, man. Like I want to like come out and like, you know, can we get this guy on a zoom call? I want to give him a digital slap to give him powerlifting program. That because I saw her program. I told her, listen, if I do your program this week,
Training Philosophy and Fitness Journey
01:21:39
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you probably have to find me in the hospital. Obviously, tongue in cheek, but my point there is, for example, when you're super motivated or whatever type A, you may expect other people to be like that, or if you're super strong or whatever you can do running, when you're a hammer, everybody is a nail. So maybe in your case, maybe that's the kind of clients he attracts, but I feel like
01:22:09
Speaker
more is not necessarily better. Again, maybe because I'm just getting older, bro. Maybe just because my client demographic is kind of more that kind of side of the spectrum. But I feel like we can achieve just as much. You know how they say, I forgot who it was with exercise or stimulating strength.
01:22:32
Speaker
You need the minimum effective dose after that. It's unnecessary damage that will probably prevent you from the next workout being efficient for strength. You can easily do less than six or eight sets a week and develop strength, at least unless you're a super advanced. What was it, Mansur? Are you familiar with Mansur?
01:22:58
Speaker
A long time ago I was reading bodybuilding books when I was like 15, 16 years old. An 80s bodybuilder and he was famous for like the one set failure. And he would recommend training every four days. So you would hit chest and you wouldn't hit it again for two weeks. And he would talk about all of these principles of like, yeah, you need way more recovery than you actually realize.
01:23:25
Speaker
So before I was training with Tanner, I was doing like the Mike Menser protocol and I was getting stronger every week. There's no doubt about it. I mean, it straight up works, but I just wanted to take this approach. Tanner's in fantastic shape. And so I just wanted to take the opportunity to work with him. And like so far, I mean, I've had amazing results. I'm getting stronger every week. I mean, eating the calorie deficit, I'm losing weight and I'm gaining strength. So I know that.
01:23:52
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I'm losing fat and gaining muscle. So I mean, what he's doing is definitely working. I don't want to dissuade anyone from working with him, but I mean, yeah, it's a pretty intense program for sure.
01:24:06
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I guess I just, since I did my fight, I did a tight boxing fight, uh, seven years ago when I was 30. After that, I, I, I just push it, push it out of, of all this intense stuff. And now I guess I'm, I'm a dad now. I'm, I got the, not that I'm, I'm looking forward to having a dad ball or anything, but I guess I'm just looking for less stress because I had, I had a back injury putting my kid in the, in the car last year, maybe 18 months ago. And I only got.
01:24:36
Speaker
I only sounds like the quintessential dad like injury. Yeah, dude, but it's the thing with ligaments, it takes easily a year to a year and a half to to heal. So during that time, I couldn't do much. So now I'm, I'm kind of doing more. But I'm thinking how can I be? How can I be as efficient as possible? If you know what I mean, just create the stimulus, and then get out of the way that the body do the healing. I'm sure I'm sure probably in
01:25:05
Speaker
in a while when I'm back to kind of closer to my fitness levels when I was 30. Maybe I'm going to have some other ambitions, but yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Maybe we can close on this. One of my favorite biomarkers of, you know, if you have like optimal health and virility and stuff is just waking up with a boner.
01:25:30
Speaker
So every morning I wake up with a boner and I'm ready to fucking crush the world. So I think I'm doing pretty well right now, but I do recognize like the leaner that I get, because like my goal is like 175. So 194 right now, once I hit 175, I definitely think like the testosterone is going to be taking a huge hit. But for right now, I mean, I feel fantastic. And unless you get the cheat goals,
01:25:59
Speaker
unless you get the cheat codes from your board. My man, I got to get them from you.
Podcast Promotion and Upcoming Events
01:26:03
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All right. Before, before we get to the cheat codes, let's just send off the folks with where they can find you on the internet and connect with you, bro. Yeah, absolutely. Really. I had a podcast called conspiratorial conspiring. I, I was doing that for a while. I got to get back off the ground.
01:26:22
Speaker
Really like Christian was talking about earlier, I just started it so I could talk to cool people. I just, I wanted to talk to Alex Siqueiros. I wanted to talk to Charlie Robinson. I wanted to talk to Crow Triple Seven. All these people in the conspiracy space, they're huge. Like I wanted to just call them and have a two hour conversation, but that's like, no, they're too busy for that. But if I could be like, hey, you know, promote your book on my show, then they're like down for that all of a sudden. So that's why I started the podcast called Conspiratorial Conspiring.
01:26:51
Speaker
If you want to check that out, some of the older episodes, I want to get it back off the ground. But in the other capacities, just go to livefree.academy. It's not .com. It's .academy, livefree.academy. Look at our events page, see what we've got going on. We've got a health summit, which Christian will be speaking at. We're really excited.
01:27:11
Speaker
about all of that kind of stuff. And we've got different kind of things going on all the time right now. We have a Bitcoin for basics, Bitcoin basics for beginners and boomers. If you need any help getting started on Bitcoin, stuff like that, we can definitely help you out with that. But yeah, the main thing coming up in the next couple of months is going to be that health summit. So we're really excited for that. Go to livefree.academy. Ryan, thank you so much, bro, for your time. Absolutely, man. Pleasure as always.