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Christian Yordanov: hey folks k christian jordan off here welcome back to the show today we have vito from mystic visions and he was very kind to send me this book that he is a collaborator on called the pillars of wisdom and we're going to discuss little bit about the book and some of vito's work and research so vito thank you so much for joining us today
Vito: Yeah.
Vito: Thank you for having me. It's great to be on the show.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, man. Really appreciate Brendan Thomas introducing us. I want to ask you first, just for the listeners, this book, you sent me this. It is absolutely...
Christian Yordanov: beautiful in terms of so let me see how many so 361 pages and I'll show here for anyone watching look at these amazing drawings and the the book is like really really well produced can you tell the listeners what is this book about
Vito: So this book is basically about our contemporary age and how certain economic, psychological, and also spiritual structures, um, where are set in place to sabotage you, but how you can use those same structures to get out of that sabotage.
Vito: Right.
Christian Yordanov: and so
Vito: Um,
Christian Yordanov: Let's unpack that a little bit. Where do you want to start? What to this project coming to fruition? led to this project just for the listeners what led to this project coming to fruition
Vito: So before the main author of this book was active on the red pill and he was writing since 2016. Um,
Vito: sixteen um But what happened was that his articles always got censored or removed or deleted by Reddit and also the mods on the Red Bull as well.
Vito: So he was, in terms of like theory, he is, he, he disguised a lot of his theory as like dating articles, but, um,
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: what happened was all the mods from that subreddit and Reddit itself basically removed his articles because they deemed them as too radical.
Vito: right. So he started his own community in 2019 the pandemic.
Vito: during the pandemic ah where he basically um pushed for remote work moving out of the West right to escape the pandemic and to escape those so structures.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: right So at some point, his articles kept getting deleted. So at some point he was like, okay, well, I need to publish my article somehow.
Vito: Right. And so we came to the conclusion that the best way to do that is to publish a book where they can't censor those articles anymore. Because once it's in your hand, they can't take it away from you.
Vito: Right.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, yeah.
Vito: So that's what led to this project. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Just to kind of, I'm going to read so like maybe a couple of excerpts here and there, but um this book is at the same time profoundly philosophical, yet very dark, yet very funny. um Was that the intention of the book, just to kind of use the the current culture's craziness in order to educate, to break down defenses?
Vito: Yeah. Yeah, because but you have to understand is we were competing on the Internet. We were competing against pornography. And so how do we get people to read those deeply philosophical topics without getting bored and going back to Pornhub and jerking off to fucking big breasts?
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: yeah So we disguise this in like this very profane language. to sort of like get the viewer's attention and keep him on that philosophical topic, right?
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Vito: um Because unlike in universities, you know nobody's listening to to their professor because he's just an old man with glasses just reading off of off of a whiteboard.
Vito: While here, it's entertaining, it's funny, it's dark. Certain themes are being explored that usually wouldn't be explored in in a way that that's very, um I want to say,
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: untraditional unorthodox right um but but again that's what kept the viewer's attention high that's what kept him locked onto this onto this right
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Christian Yordanov: yeah So, i just want there was one about, oh my God, I'm not sure.
Vito: so
Christian Yordanov: I'm not sure I can read. um For example, just kind of excerpt here. Beta male transcendental berserker mode. At the center of every beta male psyche is a fantasy trapping him in an endless cycle of mediocrity.
Christian Yordanov: I mean, like, beta males spend their time, their entire lives pretending to be somebody else from cartoons, video games, and online internet for it. I mean, like, it's just, like, dude, destroy your dick December. Yeah.
Vito: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: That's about, no, not November. like the The thing is just, how listen to this, how to measure your penis like an empirical, rational alpha male.
Vito: Right, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: It's just, with all the like the the scientific introduction, materials and methods, ah results, discussion, like ah like a scientific paper would have, it just like absolutely.
Christian Yordanov: And all these... All these graphics along the way, just really, what a what a production. Okay, so what what um what, I think, so just for someone some of my listeners may not know what red pill, black pill, all that stuff is, what is that?
Vito: So, and there was a big tech boom, right? In the early 2010s. There was big tech boom. And a lot of these programmers started getting into the middle class, right?
Vito: which was previously just made out of lawyers and doctors and engineers. right So now you have these programmers who were complete, let's be honest, dorks, um who stayed at home mostly. They didn't really go out. They weren't as social.
Vito: And they now got into this middle class sphere where it's a very social space where certain dynamics happened, which they weren't accustomed to. And so the Red Bull was created to sort of like teach those men.
Vito: So before they read the Red Bull, there was pickup artists, right? And pickup artists were, let's be honest, scam artists who sold men, these programmers, this idea, oh, like, this is how you can pick up women.
Vito: right This is how you can be more social and all that stuff.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Vito: um When pick up pa die die pickup died, pickup artists, when they died, right, that culture died, the Red Bull came to fruition, right? And out of the Red Bulls, different branches like MGTOW, Black Pearl, all that stuff came to fruition.
Vito: But the Red Bull was basically a branch from pickup artists that became mainstream later on, where a bunch of these programmers who learned from pickup artists started writing their own blogs, right?
Vito: right And on the Red Pill, it became really big because later on you also had lawyers on there, you had doctors on there, engineers, you know politicians, judges who started becoming part of that community. right and And that's how it became really big because it was was exploring these dating dynamics, these gender dynamics in a very unfiltered way.
Christian Yordanov: on.
Vito: And what happened afterwards is, I mean, i could i could go deep into this conspiracy if you want, but what happened afterwards is when there was a 21 convention led by Anthony Dream Johnson, who basically put all these Red Bull people in one place.
Christian Yordanov: go
Vito: right And they could discuss everything together. right Problem was that a lot of these bloggers who went on there were frauds.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: right People who were cuckolds, people who were having sex with transsexuals. and But they were all advocating for this masculinity. So how can a cuckold advocate for masculinity if he himself is...
Vito: is is is performing these, these liberal actions, right? Um, and so basically the author of this book started calling these people out. That's how a whole war happened.
Vito: He started calling these people out saying like, how can these people advocate for masculinity if they're performing these unmasculine acts? Right. And That was one point. And then the other thing is it also got infiltrated by the federal government.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: So the federal government started getting involved into this and they started putting their own agents on there to sort of like delegitimize the whole thing.
Vito: Right. Um, so after that convention, everything went pretty much downhill because a lot of people got exposed for a lot of these main bloggers.
Vito: They, they were either frauds or they were just federal, federal agents who dismissed, who delegitimize the whole, this whole project.
Vito: Later on, the Red Bull moved from this blogosphere onto YouTube, right? And what happened there, it just got flooded with more federal agents and more frauds, right? There's people like Fresh and Fit where Myron Gaines, he's a federal agent.
Vito: There is people like, I um think his name was...
Vito: There's Roland Tomasi, who's who is a fraud as well. basically Basically, it just got delegitimized even further. And a lot of these lawyers and doctors and engineers started leaving that sphere because they didn't want to associate with it anymore.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Vito: right And so that's why you have, now you have, when you think of the Red Bull, you're thinking, when people think of the Red Bull, they're thinking of this post 2015 era, right?
Vito: ah fifteen era right where Where it all went downhill. But before it was a pretty serious thing. um And it it could have developed into this um political movement or into a very big cultural movement, but it got shut down by the federal government.
Christian Yordanov: So what was the point of the red pill? Was it just to kind of help these kind of dorky guys become more self-confident?
Vito: Initially, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: Initially, yeah. And then later there was later, there was the threat because more people started joining, more serious people started joining. There was this threat that it could turn into a cultural shift.
Christian Yordanov: Okay.
Vito: All right.
Christian Yordanov: And they don't like that. They have to control everything.
Vito: Of course not, because what happens when you have a cultural shift or you have a bunch of lawyers and judges and politicians get radicalized against the system, then the system doesn't work anymore.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Vito: Because they're the main, uh, driving force of that system. Right.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: If you look at all major revolutionaries, you know, they were lawyers, you know, like Lenin was a lawyer, um,
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: ah think I think even in in Nazi Germany, Goebbels was a lawyer. But the point is, Fidel Castro was a lawyer. you know
Christian Yordanov: well
Vito: So all major revolutionaries, they were lawyers. right or because they were either lawyers or doctors or in that sphere. right Because in order to to to drive a cultural shift, you need to be able to ah sway the public to your favour and also be able to read a lot.
Vito: That's what lawyers are pretty good at. They're just good at reading a lot and collecting a lot of information.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: And so the, the federal government was afraid that it could turn into something like that. And they had to shut it down, um, through this honeypot operation.
Vito: Right.
Christian Yordanov: That was that 21 twenty one conference
Vito: Yeah, that was a, yeah, it was a 21 convention. That's when, that's when it started happening.
Christian Yordanov: Convention.
Vito: Um,
Christian Yordanov: Right. So now they basically they control what comes out of the movement and then it's basically like at many other things. You go in and you are being socially engineered because they they control the message coming out of the big channels.
Vito: Right. So it's like a controlled opposition.
Christian Yordanov: Right. Okay.
Vito: Right. And so, you know, it's an open question. an open question when exactly it started, but around that time area, it did start.
Vito: And now it's so bad that... um it's it's not It's not the real thing anymore, but it's just it's just federal agents delegitimizing the whole thing.
Vito: It's weird scam artists trying to make a last buck out of it and then disappear. All right.
Christian Yordanov: It's crazy, dude.
Vito: So when we when we give people this book, bay they expect something like that to come out, like a scam to come out.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Vito: They don't expect a real book to come out of this because they've because so many fake books came out of that sphere that... um that it's just It's just the norm, right?
Vito: But, you know, we wrote a real book because we've been censored for a reason. We've been we've been what been ah deleted for reason. And we were like, okay, well, well this is stuff that the public needs to know.
Vito: um ah A lot of useful information is on there. Now, we're not telling people what to do, but we are telling them, well, this is this is what it looks like. This is what's happening. And here's something you could do about it.
Vito: You know?
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Yeah, so
Vito: Like that.
Christian Yordanov: what is a normie?
Vito: A normie someone who believes in that the system has his best interest and who defends the system with all his might. Right.
Vito: So if you for example, during the pandemic, um there were many, there were many like people who believe that, that the pharmaceutical companies have their best interest in mind.
Vito: when it was later and really obvious that they didn't. Right?
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm. Yeah. yeah
Vito: And what happened was, what what happened with normie culture is basically that it's mostly the middle class, right? It's mostly the middle class who believe that the system has their best interest in mind, despite there being proof that it doesn't.
Vito: And they defend that system. And the way you can catch a normie is when you say those radical things and they get defensive immediately.
Vito: right
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, yeah.
Vito: despite Despite them showing proof that something clearly is wrong, something's clearly not not the way it should be.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, dude. like ah we We were visiting family a few weeks ago and in Ireland, Dublin, and I hadn't been back there since 2019. twenty nineteen And um actually, my wife, she noticed that they were spraying the skies, you know?
Christian Yordanov: So we were staying with family. ah I won't name them who it was, but ah my wife ah noticed it the first day. The next day, I'm like, oh, look, it's spraying again. They're spraying again.
Christian Yordanov: And we were at the dinner table with family and it's insane how quickly they just, they just, oh, and they just immediately change the subject, move on to something else.
Christian Yordanov: And I just kind of looked at my wife and we're like, okay, well no we're not going to belabor this point. But it to me, it's like almost like, um fuck, I don't even want to think about that kind of stuff. Let's just completely block it out of our minds. You know, it's it's insane. though and And we all know people like that.
Vito: Right. So that's typical, normal behavior, because to acknowledge what your wife says means that they'd have to question, they'd have to argue for the system.
Vito: And that's a weak argument with everything that's been happening lately.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: and then on And then on top of that, when when they can't and they are proven wrong, they have to change their entire worldview
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: that the system does not support them and that they're actually on their own.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. ah just they It's so difficult to accept. It's like imagine you're a kid and someone tells you your mom or your dad doesn't like you.
Christian Yordanov: In fact, they hate you. In fact, they want to make your life horrible as horrible as possible. And it does it's ah it's something like that, imagine, how are you gonna imagine like, oh yeah, my government and this entire sort of society, the way they've engineered it, it's just to fuck with you at every step imaginable.
Vito: It's something like that.
Vito: Right.
Christian Yordanov: It's so difficult to to accept and and it's it's earth it's what paradigm shattering for people.
Vito: Right.
Vito: Right. and But that's been happening forever now. You know, it's been a thing.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: ah It's been a thing since forever. And I think the best the best clue was the 2008 market crash where where.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: 91% of the people lost there their income. They lost everything, all their assets. They were left they were left poor. right But the top they got of all these assets. They got bailed out.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Vito: and then the rest nineteen percent they they they were you know they got ah scraps from that But the rest they were just abandoned. Right?
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: And it's hard to believe for someone who benefited from the system in the 50s and the 60s, right?
Vito: Who benefited from the system and then realized that that benefit always came with with a price. But not for them, but for next generation, and the the generation after that.
Vito: And that's why that's why, for example, baby boomers, um they love the system so much because they benefited from it the most.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Yeah.
Vito: They got free loans.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: They got they they they could buy houses at a very cheap price. you know They got benefits for working hard. you know
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Vito: um But all of that was purposefully done to crash the market. So that, so again, so that 90% of the assets could go to the 1%.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, and I think the folks kind in the middle middle class, they're given just enough scraps so life is comfortable enough where they don't have to give out too much and and demand much. And what I've actually just, again, my my frame of reference here is Ireland because I lived there 14 years of my adult life. So it's ah I know the most about like how a country is.
Christian Yordanov: And ah so we had the middle class were doing well. you know You can get a mortgage easily. You have a home. You think you had you own a home. ah You can buy a car on a you know monthly payment that you can afford.
Christian Yordanov: So things things are seemingly okay. And then for the lower class, ah hundreds of thousands of those people, they'll be on like um social welfare. Some of them get like housing.
Christian Yordanov: So they're pacified. so they don't create too much trouble. but They might you know have you know whatever, ah the the a small percentage might deal drugs or do crime, but you know most of them have jobs to kind of like ah pay the bills.
Christian Yordanov: So everyone that can become a problem in terms of segments of the population pacified in a way that basically allows them to pull strings behind the curtain and then boom, 2008 Before 2008, people were paying 70, 80 euro for a single hour with a personal trainer.
Christian Yordanov: They'll pay that up front. After that, personal trainers were doing like 10 euro an hour wage jobs, basically the same, like a cleaner, a waiter.
Christian Yordanov: And just the standard of living dropped so precipitously for people from that event. And most people will deny that that shit was orchestrated since the last one, since 2001.
Christian Yordanov: All right, when's the next one? Okay, 2008. Let's start planning that. And they don't realize every seven, eight years whenever a crisis happens, for the most part, it's been engineered in order to strip them either of their freedoms, of any semblance of wealth they might have, or quality of life, or most importantly, freedom. I think ah that's the most important one.
Vito: ah no percent 100%. And that system is designed that way. It's designed to crash. It's designed to cause crises, right? Because again, that's how, like you said earlier, that's how they make the most profits. That's how they can take away more freedoms. That's going to justify justify exploiting the public, you know.
Vito: you know, and the working class, the lower class who get those welfare checks, always that welfare check comes from the social tax. So they're paying for their own welfare tax welfare checks that they have to pay back later on.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: And that's the cycle that's always been there, right? The middle class, they earn enough money to to perpetuate this this this state ideology more and more and more and more, right? That's their entire existence. And when you tell them, hey, like your entire existence is to basically legitimize the system that is exploiting you as well, it's hard for them to accept.
Vito: right And then that out of that, that's how you get normal culture.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: And the lower class, they're not educated enough to make those statements you know because they can't afford ah their education. right And in the middle class who can afford their education, they're only being educated in a specific way.
Vito: You bring in new knowledge or new philosophical structures and they start they start getting defensive. Right? Because, because again, like they've been taught this way since birth, sense sense since, since, since, you know, actually, yeah, since birth to, to think a specific way.
Christian Yordanov: yeah yeah when did you start awakening to all this kind of stuff
Vito: There was, i mean, i started awakening pretty early on, started catching on pretty early on. um There was this thing in Europe, i don't know if you remember, but there was TTIP, right?
Christian Yordanov: TTIP
Vito: Which was a transatlantic trade ah agreement between the US Germany, where grew up, where US corporations...
Vito: basically the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers could take over European companies and basically change, ah basically override work workers' laws through um through policies.
Vito: right So that's why Walmart, for example, didn't work out in Germany because the workers' laws didn't allow them to do that. So they tried to override that with that agreement.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: What happened was people decided against it. They voted against it and they tried to pass that bill anyway. They were having secret meetings.
Vito: So protest protests started happening where they would attack those those investors. ah Like physically attacked them. Like they were really like at their office, like, like, like violent, just just doing violence.
Vito: And so they stopped, right. But two years later, they redid, they redid another poll, and they passed the bill anyway. Right.
Vito: And so I realized that, okay, so if I'm voting, no, my vote doesn't fucking matter. My vote doesn't matter. People's votes doesn't matter. So, so that system is already crooked.
Vito: Right. Then um the pandemic happened. I was like, well, it's not just ah hot ah ah politics that that that that the politics system that's that's crooked, but the pharmaceutical pharmaceutical system as well.
Vito: And they started going going into this rabbit hole of like how it's all connected, how it's all done. right So I had a pre-awakening in 2015. Then I had a real awakening do during the pandemic.
Christian Yordanov: Got it, got it.
Vito: Right.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah man, it's... um when When things start to emerge and you kind of start going down rabbit holes, I think a lot of us that have been there, it's almost, if you accept that yeah your whole or part or your your whole world view will have to change,
Christian Yordanov: and it's going to be painful i think those of us that sort of say all right you know what i i want the truth i know it may be painful but i'd rather have the painful truth than you know some kind of comfortable lie do did you ever have a period of like depression like i i certainly feel like i did have some kind of period of depression that i was self-medicating myself through in various ways but um it's almost like okay the truth came the fire hose hurt too much and you know there was repercussions did you have that period or phase
Vito: I ah had a period of depression where where I went into this nihilistic stage where I was like, okay, well, it doesn't matter, right?
Vito: Everything is controlled. doesn't matter. I can't do anything to anything about it.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: But I had this urge to leave. And I was like, well, I just need to get out. I just need to get out of this country. I need to get out of here. need to do something else. Maybe if I get out of here, like i can I can change some things.
Vito: um That's I met the author of the book. I basically called him. I told him like, hey, listen, like I didn't have any education. You seem like you can give me that proper education and then I can use that education to get out, right?
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: um and he was like yeah sure let me teach you everything i know and then we'll see so he did and then he realized that i had a certain talent that he could use to to help his company right and he offered me to just live with him until everything is booted up and and um ah This was perfect for me because I got a stable remote job through that.
Vito: right I get to do what I want and what I like, which is reading books, researching stuff. and i get to live I get to live where I want to live, but which is outside of Europe, as far away as possible, not going back to Germany.
Christian Yordanov: That's awesome.
Vito: I really don't want to.
Christian Yordanov: It seems like Germany, they have it one of the hardest sort of thing. They seem to be very under the boot the government, if you know what I mean.
Christian Yordanov: Is that a correct assessment?
Vito: Yeah, it's a correct assessment.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Vito: And even that government is under the boot of the United States. Right. So the thing about Germany is Germany is the European Union.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Vito: it's It's the main driving force that that's that takes pretty much all the decision decisions for Europe. Right.
Vito: and and so And the European Union is just a puppet state for the United States to sort of like do foreign policies under the guise of, you know, yep so they don't have to call themselves an empire.
Vito: Right. um And that was the original plan with Nazi Germany, right? So Nazi Germany was funded by the British crown and by the United States to create a European Union.
Vito: But, you know, Hitler failed horribly. So they had to shut the whole thing down and rebranded it under the European Union.
Vito: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, you, yeah. So um I don't know that history well. so So he was just doing his the bidding of those guys to to create a unified Europe. that is it was that kind of So he thought he was doing doing a good deed for his masters.
Vito: Yeah.
Vito: but hit Well,
Vito: basically there was There were many plans like this, even before Nazi Germany, right? They tried to do this with the Soviets, with the Bolsheviks.
Vito: But the Bolsheviks, you know, they were already ideologically interpolated into communism. And so that that plan fell apart because when the Soviets took over Russia, they were supposed to hand it over to the British crown.
Vito: right um they didn't They didn't because because they had their own agenda. right That's how the civilian was starving for a year, actually, because all the funding was pulled away from them.
Vito: So they had to create new economic structures for themselves where they could become self-sufficient. And during that time, all their funding then went into... into the the National Socialist Party in Germany, right?
Vito: And Hitler was just a spokesperson for them, right?
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: It's not that, you know, that that that National Socialist Party was not as famous before. They didn't have any funding at all. They were doing very horribly and they were very unpopular.
Vito: The Communist Party was doing pretty good in Germany and the Socialist Party as well. And they were. But again, they were not under the control of the British crown in the United States, and they were afraid that, oh, this could we could have another Soviet Russia happen in Germany.
Vito: We can't have that. So they started funding the National Socialist Party to to gain favor. Right. um That's how you get the brown jackets who were like destroying people's property for voting for voting left.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: um That's how you had. um or they started attacking leftist voters, or they started and and they started attacking the Communist Party itself, you know?
Vito: So very violent reactions started happening out of that, right? But those violent reactions weren't because people believed in fascism.
Vito: It's just that fascism was was convenient for... for um the elite to create a unified Europe under the Nazi flag, right?
Vito: And for for the Zionists to have an excuse to go back to Israel, right?
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: There were a lot of forces involved in this. The British crown wanted to take Russia through the Nazis. The United States wanted to create wanted to create a puppet state in Europe. to to to solidify their dollar.
Vito: right So whenever the dollar crashes, they just sacrifice the euro to do that. um And the Zionists, they needed a reason to go back to Israel and star start the whole war over there.
Christian Yordanov: It's insane, man. It's also like being um from Bulgaria, ah remember when I was a kid, there was whole big old thing there on the map called Yugoslavia.
Christian Yordanov: We went to live in South Africa when I was like nine years old. And of course, you're very much, we didn't have internet properly back then, you know, in the mid 90s and stuff. So you don't know what the hell's going on. You're a kid. You don't give a damn about world affairs. You don't read newspapers.
Vito: Right.
Christian Yordanov: So Like, dude, they split up a mass. Like, when you look at Yugoslavia, it's like six countries. It it was huge. And they freaking split that up in like ah under a decade. It's insane, man.
Vito: Yeah, it was a whole CIA operation too.
Christian Yordanov: Insane.
Vito: Like the whole Yugoslavia thing was a whole was a CIA operation to to just, because it was it was the remnants of the Soviet Union, right?
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Christian Yordanov: Wow, it's just, what goes to mind?
Vito: So after the Soviet Union collapsed, Yugoslavia remained and they still had the same beliefs. They still had the same ah ah core ideological ideas. And the United States needed to sort of like get rid of them as well so that it's easier to split them up.
Christian Yordanov: divide and conquer
Vito: I mean, of course, right. And of course, get them into NATO contracts that are not in their favor.
Christian Yordanov: and then install even more of their own people representatives and ambassadors and even though like they apparently I don't know any much at all about Operation Gladio but they had sleeper agents there for a long time in there didn't they yeah
Vito: Yeah. Yep.
Vito: Yeah, yeah. Even in the Soviet Union, like Gorbachev. Gorbachev was funded by the CIA to collapse the Soviet Union.
Christian Yordanov: whoa
Vito: and And the KGB knew, but they couldn't do anything because, one, they were too old. And two, they they didn't have, their their resources were were pulled away.
Vito: So the Soviet Union collapsed because Gorbachev was funded by the CIA. He was tasked to collapse it. right That's why he started like bringing all these American companies into Russia, like McDonald's and Burger King, all that stuff. right
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: And then Yugoslavia was was a remnant of the Soviet Union. was the last bit that they needed to get rid of as well to really install globalism on on onto the eastern side of the world.
Christian Yordanov: And it's it seems so counterintuitive to the, i guess, to the, for when you look at it, first of all, if if they're trying to install globalism, like speak like from the normie sort of side, if they're trying to install globalism, why would they break these countries up? But it's when you kind of describe how they ah they do it by installing you know these agents in there, it makes a lot of sense because that's covert globalism, which,
Christian Yordanov: that's That's the one that's really bad because no like most people are not going to catch on until it's too late.
Vito: Right. it's app plususe There's a plausible deniability, right?
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: If I put everything under one country by force, there is I can't deny that it's that I have a secret plan that's really there to fuck everyone over, you know?
Vito: But by pretending that everybody is their own sovereign nation,
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: you know, doesn't matter how small they are, then it's easier to, it's easier to basically convince people to take my side.
Christian Yordanov: If I were to force you to pick the top three to five countries in Europe where if you were forced to live, what what would those be?
Vito: um I'd say Russia is a good place.
Christian Yordanov: Interesting.
Vito: Russia is pretty good. um
Christian Yordanov: Interesting.
Vito: I would also say Belarus is pretty okay.
Christian Yordanov: Okay.
Vito: um Serbia is fine.
Christian Yordanov: Okay.
Vito: But overall, Europe itself, i wouldn't I just don't see how those countries wouldn't at some point... you know maybe Maybe not Russia, but for sure for sure, like Serbia, the Balkans, they're goingnna they're going to be taken over.
Vito: They're going to adopt more and more of those of those policies. If you look at Croatia, they all went into lockdown. Serbia went into lockdown.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Vito: you know um Most of European countries went into lockdown. That's how you can tell that's not a good place to stay in.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Vito: The reason why Mexico is so good yes, they went into lockdown the first year, but the second year, they realized that it was a sham.
Vito: And they open up their borders again and they open up stores again. That's why so many people came here as well because there was no lockdown here. Right. Because Mexico is not run by hey so by bankers, but it is run by by the cartel.
Vito: And they realized that shutting everything down is bad for the business. So by opening up everything, more more people came here and they started buying their drugs, you know.
Christian Yordanov: I thought though, because when you look at their ah like the coat of arms and the fact that it's called United States of Mexico and there's 32 states, I thought there's some sort of power behind it.
Christian Yordanov: Would you think
Vito: It's very it's very conflict conflicted because they call themselves the United States of Mexico to sort of like jab at the US because Mexico and the US, they always had some, they always quarreled against each other.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: And they're so upset that about their old regions being taken away from them, like Texas, Louisiana, all that stuff, right?
Vito: um And so they call themselves the United States of Mexico to sort of like jab at at the US. But the reality is Mexico run by the cartel.
Vito: and And all these politicians, all the police officers on there, they're they're basically puppets for the cartel to help them perpetuate their business.
Vito: but in any in any In any official state, in any official structure, you need this shadow institution.
Christian Yordanov: God.
Vito: to push it forward because because economically speaking, it can't ah can't ah keep itself going, right? It's not sufficient enough to keep the rules.
Vito: You have to cheat to keep the rules. and Think of a bodybuilder. A bodybuilder can tell you all about his his his workout plan and he eats chicken rice and broccoli every day and that's how he got so big.
Vito: But what he doesn't tell is the steroids that he injects himself with behind the scenes to keep that body.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: Same thing with a porn star.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: Like porn star, like on camera, he looks like he's just a stud who can keep having sex for eight hours, no pause, no breaks. But they don't tell you about the Viagra pill and the other drugs that he's taking behind the scenes to keep that performance up.
Vito: And that's how it works with governments too. So the the official government of Mexico, it looks like a republic. Right. The reality is it's, it's, it's the cartel running those things because they need, um, they need that official government to run their business.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: Right. And the official government needs, needs them to keep the economy up, to keep the economy going.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Vito: Cause that's the main driving economic driving force of Mexico. It is, it is the drug, drug money.
Christian Yordanov: it's kind of I think in some ways it's similar to Bulgaria where I'm from because Bulgaria is kind of ah bridge between Europe and Asia, so a lot of drugs go through there.
Christian Yordanov: And the after the the fall of communism around 89, 90, over the next 5, 10 years, ah power structure emerged from the sort of, they call them the...
Christian Yordanov: um the wrestlers, so there were a lot of like kind of tough guys that were like Olympic wrestlers, weightlifters, so really sort of tough dudes. And they kind of basically started racketeering, getting a lot of money, then with that money, they started buying businesses and legitimizing their operation.
Christian Yordanov: and Eventually, they got into government. so the you You could say bularian the Bulgarian sort of government structure is greatly influenced still by Russia. That's been the case probably since they helped liberate Bulgaria from you know Ottoman slash Turkish sort of um slavery, which it was you know for five centuries.
Christian Yordanov: um But then you also have the States. I i remember where I live in Bulgaria, there's an American school or college. I can't remember. It's like whatever. But that's been there like 25 years, maybe even more.
Christian Yordanov: And so they have... ah the The States has a lot of influence there. But I think the just the... the gangsters and the mafia, they got so powerful from all the stuff. It's not just it's so just drugs, but it's also arms and you know a lot of other sort of dark stuff.
Christian Yordanov: so But what what a lot of, at least Bulgarians that I know, because I haven't lived there a lot ah lot to know this stuff in and out, but Bulgarians say that they will leave you alone if you don't look for trouble. If you're just a normal person out there, the mafia, you know, they generally don't like they might. If you have a business that's growing, they might come to you. Look, we have to protect you.
Christian Yordanov: Racketeering type stuff. But they they'll leave the average Joe alone because they have their S classes. They have all the money, the, you know, the prostitutes, everything, the cocaine.
Christian Yordanov: So they're living life fine. They don't need to but bother normal people. um which actually allows people to have a little bit more sort of leeway where it's not an oppressive government with you know cops and Stasi-type shit going on, SS-type shit going on.
Vito: Right.
Vito: Right. And it's the same in Mexico too. like As long as you're not selling drugs, you're fine.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Vito: nobody Nobody is really bothering you. but Unless you have your business.
Christian Yordanov: Otherwise, they break your legs.
Vito: ah Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: In Mexico it's even worse.
Vito: Or they just... Well, I mean, they're Mexicans. that They're worse. They're more brutal. They're very like...
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: asked They're like ass-sex-amized, so they chop you up. They really like chopping people up.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, dude. Oh, dude. It's
Vito: But, um, it's very traditional. Uh,
Christian Yordanov: insane. Sticking to our roots here. Gotta chop this guy up.
Vito: yeah, exactly. Carve his heart out, you know?
Christian Yordanov: Send his organs to his family. Send him a message.
Vito: wear his skin as a raincoat. That's what they do. um But yeah, they you know as long as you're not selling drugs here, as long as you're not interfering in their business, they usually just leave you alone.
Vito: And it's pretty safe here. you know like i live Where i live it's it's it's very safe.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: you know i haven't i havet several end danger at all ever you know so so you can live a normal life like that's the thing about corruption like you'll feel you'll find corruption everywhere right but the problem is like how much the main idea is how much access do you do you have to that corruption and is that corruption going against you or is it actually good for you
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Vito: yeah And corruption in the West, in the Western world, is actually very bad because it's designed to to keep you enslaved to that system, to bankers, to investors.
Vito: you know
Christian Yordanov: yeah So other than Mexico then, okay, we know Europe's not exactly the best, which kind of sucks for me because, you know, it's tough. But um other than Mexico, what where else would you go if you had to change?
Vito: I mean, any Latin countries is is is okay. Mexico is so good because um it's really good in terms of like integration.
Vito: if you move to If you move to a new country, you want to go to a country where it's easier to integrate and where it's easy to learn the language. Right. So I if I shave my beard, you know, and I cut my hair bit shorter, i would look like a white Mexican.
Vito: Nobody would know that I'm from Europe. right And I had plenty of Mexican women say that I i look Mexican women, Mexican men say that that I look Mexican to them.
Christian Yordanov: Nice.
Vito: you know So it's it's Mexico is so good because you don't need to you you can pass as a Mexican. And so you're not on the receiving end of like immigrants treatment.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Vito: you know Unlike when you go in Asia, for example, where Asians are very racist and very national nationalistic, they have a strong national identity, you will always you could learn the language, yeah know you could you could integrate, but you'll never be part of them.
Vito: And they'll always treat you as an outsider. Right?
Christian Yordanov: ah Vito, only white people can be racist, okay?
Vito: ha
Christian Yordanov: ah
Vito: Yeah, I forgot to say that. That's true. they're They're proud of their identity, obviously. They're proud to be Asian. Although, according to...
Vito: according to Who was it again? Was it it the ADL? But Asians were considered as white about two, I think it was three years ago, two years ago, something like that.
Christian Yordanov: Interesting.
Vito: Because there was the stop stop Asian hate movement, right? and you know asians they're like math nerds they they're not they're not like other races which i'm not going to mention but i think we know what i'm going to talk about but asians are like there they're they're math nerds and they realize that hey like them the majority of asian hate crime doesn't come from white people but from from black people
Vito: So the problem, so so is it really like, so they started going against black people, right? And the person that was funding,
Vito: was ah funding was funding The people that were funding Stop Asian Hate Crime, they stopped their funding because they realized, oh, this isn't going in the direction that we want to. And then they started labeling Asian asian people as white because because ah they didn't follow the script of antagonizing white people more like other movements did.
Christian Yordanov: man
Vito: Right.
Christian Yordanov: It's insane,
Vito: So Asian people, ah according to two years ago, Asian people can be racist too, cause they're not white.
Christian Yordanov: dude. It's insane because ah my having lived again in South Africa from a very early age, from the age of nine, um and then in Ireland, which was a huge melting pot, you know you had the big influx of people from China in the early 2000s, and you had the Polish, you know then you had the...
Vito: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: um Brazilians, the Romanians, the um all all sorts of people, you know. um So, yeah like I'd work with in an office with a hundred people and there'd be maybe 20, 30 different nationalities represented and races and all the races, well, most of the races. So,
Christian Yordanov: so we we would naturally I would naturally befriend people that I liked. It wasn't about if you're black or Asian or white and i had to be or European and you know if you were from South America, wouldn't hang out with you.
Christian Yordanov: We would just, depending on whatever factors, you know personality, astrological science, there's a million things, interests, um So we would just hang out and go drink together, party together, whatever, go for meals.
Christian Yordanov: So it's kind of in the media, dave dave they just create this fucking chaos. But we yeah just put regular people together in a group.
Christian Yordanov: things kind of kind of work out to the point where I remember there was this one guy, Olu from Nigeria. um We would always be ribbing each other and remember we were going for a burrito with a few of the guys. I was always like, come on guys, burritos, burritos.
Christian Yordanov: So this dude, Olu, and we're just like Irish guys, and Olu, he came, we were like waiting for the elevator and he's like, where you going? We're going for burritos.
Christian Yordanov: Why don't you invite me? And they started like arguing with this Irish dude.
Vito: you
Christian Yordanov: oh And they were like, oh and I'm like, Olu, Olu, Olu. He looks at me. I'm like, it's because you're black. And we all like started laughing, you know, including him, obviously.
Vito: okay
Christian Yordanov: So this this is the kind of humor amongst friends that you if you go on the internet, you you would think there's like a war going on out there and everybody hates each other. But that's just so manufactured hate that people then feel like they have to subscribe to, to fit in because that's that's what's happening, you know?
Vito: You know, like Slavoj Žižek once told a story about his friends, his Balkan friends, and his friendship works. And I know because I had a lot of Balkan friends myself.
Vito: um But he said that the inclusion, trying to be politically correct, trying to be politically correct and multicultural is actually what stops real
