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Analyzing Charlie Robinson's Labwork
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Charlie Robinson is the author of The Octopus of Global Control, a controversial and humorous book that takes quotes from over 500 witnesses to some of history’s greatest events, and uses them to piece together and expose a century-long plan for world domination.
He is also the co-author of the #1 Best Selling book The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire written with Jeff Berwick from The Dollar Vigilante, now available on Amazon.
When he isn’t writing books, he’s the host of the Macroaggressions podcast which can be found on iTunes, Spotify, I Heart Radio, Rokfin, YouTube, and Ickonic. He also is the co-host of the wildly popular roundtable podcast, The Union of the Unwanted, with Sam Tripoli (Tin Foil Hat), Ricky Varandas (The Ripple Effect), and Midnight Mike (OBDM).
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Charlie’s website: http://theoctopusofglobalcontrol.com/
Macroaggressions Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/macroaggressions/id1501964274
The Union of the Unwanted: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-union-of-the-unwanted/id1543392645
The Octopus of Global Control - https://www.amazon.com/Octopus-Global-Control-Charlie-Robinson/dp/1521818495
The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire - https://www.amazon.com/Controlled-Demolition-American-Empire/dp/B08M21XKJ5/
Hypocrazy: Surviving In A World Of Cultural Double Standards - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09GWF56Z7
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Transcript
Intro
00:02:17
Speaker
Hey folks, welcome back to the show. Today's special guest is Charlie Robinson, author, podcaster, all-around awesome guy. He's the author of The Octopus of Global Control. His latest book is Hypocrisy, and he also wrote book with Jeff Berwick that was a number one bestseller.
00:02:37
Speaker
um The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. He's podcast host of day Zero, The Union of the Unwanted, and of course, the awesome Macroaggressions podcast, which I'm sure most of you know. I'm sure you know who Charlie is, so he doesn't really really need much more of an introduction.
00:02:55
Speaker
Charlie, welcome to the show. It's great to be back. It's great to see you in Mexico. We had too much fun. We learned a lot. if We... we ah i'm I'm really excited for next year when it moves to Puerto Vallarta.
00:03:11
Speaker
Yeah. Such a different, it's so it's so much bigger. I don't know. Easier to get to. ah It's really what people think of when they think of Mexico.
00:03:24
Speaker
I think ah Acapulco, at least the area where we were for the event, is very authentic Mexico, like very rural, like dirt roads and things like that. And Puerto Vallarta is not that it's, it's like white sand beaches and, you you know, beautiful mountains and people are nice. And if you don't speak Spanish, it's okay. You can kind of get around. So, um, I've, uh, I mean, I've been to Puerto Vallarta dozen times and every time I, I love it.
00:03:55
Speaker
It's fantastic. It's the place. My family and I, we go there once a year for vacation. it's So you're going to love it. You're going really like it. You're to whoa, this is not like Acapulco at all. it Oh, yeah. Charlie, could ah I don't want to complain or anything, but like the the getting to Acapulco is like super stressful and draining and fatiguing.
00:04:18
Speaker
Like I feel like I've been recovering for like two weeks from that trip. So... but it's so Anything that makes it easier and more more comfortable, i'll be happy. I'm signing up. When when Jeff made that announcement ah on the stage, they were talking about how um there were direct flights from Rome.
00:04:34
Speaker
And you and I look at each other and we're like, dang. You could probably get here in maybe two flights instead of like yeah four. I could bring the family. It would be like an actual proper business trip.
00:04:47
Speaker
For sure. Yeah. A lot of, lot of good people, a lot of, uh, lot of networking going on. Well, you don't have to be, you don't have to work in the business to, to network either. The people that go there that are, you know, that just have traditional jobs. Um, they meet a lot of people that are working in like, uh, health and wellness, maybe helping them improve their, um, you know, some, physical issues that they have, maybe some mental issues. Obviously there's psychedelic components to this too. People can add on. So you leave with a nice little network of, of, of people and you, you you don't feel as a alone as maybe a lot of people have felt over the years. You know, it's very isolating when we, when, when it opened up, um,
00:05:32
Speaker
In 2023, when i I was there, that that was when the Canadian border had reopened after being closed for like almost three years. and the And the Canadians that came to the event were like,
00:05:46
Speaker
Felt like they had been like let out of jail and they were connecting with people and it was really important for them. So sometimes, you know, depending on on where you're coming from, just the the fact that you're around people that are like minded and you don't feel.
00:06:01
Speaker
You may feel isolated at home, but then you come there and you connect with all these people and you. email you know You get email addresses or WhatsApp numbers and everyone's talking to each other after the fact. I've i've stayed in touch with a ton of people. I've met a lot of f and i have had at least you know two dozen people from Anarcopulco on my show over the years. It's just a good it's a good place. If you're feeling like lost or a little bit like you like you're by yourself or that your family thinks you're crazy or that you're your job, everybody, you go to work every day and everybody in your job feels one way and you feel the opposite way and you feel very isolated.
00:06:37
Speaker
Go to an Arcapulco. you just You'll feel like you're at home. you know You'll feel like, oh, finally there's some people that I'm going through. them a good place. Absolutely. Yeah, you can talk to anyone and just know you're not going to be judged for you saying the most outlandish, crazy stuff and people will still be like, yeah, well, yeah, okay, maybe that's possible, sure. Instead of saying, you know, thinking, oh my God, how do I get away from this person here? Right.
00:07:03
Speaker
um Yeah, and by the way, there was a lot of Canadians and actually i spoke to quite a few Canadians that had run basically run away from Canada and had with their family and everything, with their small kids and just established themselves in Mexico and they were like, well, we like it we make it at work and it's a hell of a lot better than being a you know basically a prison freaking country. Yeah.
00:07:27
Speaker
multiple people I met, like especially last year were escaping. camp They just, i said, well, how, where were you? Where were you in the Canada? And they all described it as escaping.
00:07:37
Speaker
I thought it was funny to to say that one guy like literally escaped. He said he took his dog and his car, filled it with as much as he could and left, had to leave his house. And he felt like he was, he was going to get arrested for, cause he was speaking out against vaccines and masks and things like that. And, and,
00:07:53
Speaker
he The word came down, like a neighbor called him. He's like, dude, they came to my house. They are looking for you. And he's like, I got to go. And I met him there and he was he was traumatized by it.
00:08:04
Speaker
He had to leave all his animals, except for that one dog, that wolf dog that he had with him. And I was like, God, man, that's terrible. So so you'll you'll you'll get some some intense stories from people that are um escaping...
00:08:19
Speaker
he he might as well have been describing like escaping from poland in 1939 to me you know what i mean it was like it was uh he's like i just left with what i could grab like well yeah But yeah, for sure, this it's the kind of place where you make lasting friendships.
00:08:39
Speaker
It's so amazing. yeah we got to We got to hang out quite a bit, which i was super happy about. And on the last day, on the Friday, we um you were super appreciative. You gifted me um a bufo ceremony that we we went to to Bamboo or to do together didn't really because that was such a profound experience and then but we basically that evening it was all over and we had to go back the next day didn't really chat much about the experience we were both like I think youre like um okay let me process that so what um what was that experience like for you bro?
00:09:22
Speaker
So I had done it the year prior in at Bambuta. So I kind of knew what to expect. I knew that where the place was, and I know Shaman Bearheart, and i know how I felt, and I know what the you know what the ceremony does to you. So i i had i had advanced knowledge of what was what was going to happen there in a way that you didn't.
00:09:48
Speaker
But I was also you know working through over the last, the difference between the first time I did it and the in the second time was that I had gone through that
00:10:00
Speaker
98 days i spent in Las Vegas with my mom who, when I got the day I got there, I went to be with her for ah ah medical diagnosis that she was getting, which I thought was not going to be great, but didn't really know what it was going, you know, what the outcome is going to be. They'd found a two centimeter blood.
00:10:24
Speaker
thing on her pancreas and had wasn't sure what, you know, they did took a biopsy and then they were, she was going to get the results for that biopsy on a Wednesday in the end of July. And I came in that Tuesday right before I said, well, I'll go out there and be with her in case it's not great.
00:10:43
Speaker
And it was not great. It was you have panc stage four pancreatic cancer and you have 90 days to live. And it was like, holy shit. So I didn't leave. As you know, you and I have been, you know, we're talking throughout the whole thing.
00:10:58
Speaker
I immediately reached out to you. i said, I need I need a miracle. I need a cancer protocol for this. And you said, give me 24 hours. and and And then, and then all this, then it was get this, this, this, this. And, you know, we started ordering the the supplements and and fighting it to to the extent that we could. And so after going through that, you know, and staying with her until she,
00:11:24
Speaker
Until she died in that room ah with with me there, just kind of watching and waiting. I i clearly had some issues to work through.
00:11:37
Speaker
and now I had plenty of time to slowly work through them while I was there. and And, you know, it was the it was not necessarily a sudden thing in the sense that When I was a kid, my dad went out jogging one day and dropped dead of a heart attack that sudden yeah that just like, boom, it's so, you know, you don't have time to work up to it. You don't have time to deal with like, oh, my God, I'm watching this person get sick in front of my eyes. So it was a very different, a different ah trip for me.
00:12:09
Speaker
ah with my mom. And so when when that kind of wrapped up and I came home to Denver and took a month to really kind of like unpack that, I knew that when I was going into Mexico, I was going to have some sort of unresolved feelings about how everything went down.
00:12:29
Speaker
And, um, and so my intention going into that ceremony was to allow the universe, allow the magic potion that, you know, the, the Bufo, um, to allow it to
00:12:48
Speaker
use its infinite wisdom to take care of the things that it can see that need to be taken care of.
00:12:59
Speaker
I was not, you know, I was not an emotional wreck after this with my mom. i I had plenty of time to sort of, I mean, i it wasn't great while I was going through it, but I had, I had time to process it. And when, when the end finally came, you know, I was, it, it, it,
00:13:17
Speaker
It wasn't the worst thing. You know, it was this is this is probably at this stage. It's for the best. So so I i was i felt like I was fine emotionally, but I knew I needed a little bit of help. And so for me, that was the intention was let's see what let's see what the universe can do.
00:13:38
Speaker
and And I know that from doing it the time before, it's been described as a DMT wrapped in love. and And so I know that you're going to get like a very bright, like, ah you know, it feels like you're right next to the sun, you know, like everything gets very bright when you, so when you smoke it.
00:13:58
Speaker
um It's not like, as opposed to say like a really dark, bad acid trip or something where, yeah. where the the energy in the room turns and you go, I don't like this. This is no good. You don't get that with Bufo. Bufo is like the universe is embracing you in, in, in love and happiness. And you're going to, you know, sort of ah elevate yourself as a result of it. So when I went, what,
00:14:26
Speaker
Both times I've done it with bare heart. The first hit, you go down for 10 minutes or so, you're laying down, you come back up and you kind of look around, get your bearings.
00:14:38
Speaker
And in both times i I went a second time. And this this time after the first one, I kind of sat up and i kind of just barely turned and looked a little bit. And then bare heart was there like I knew he was going to be. And he you know, he'll say, I'm being told that you need to go second time.
00:15:01
Speaker
funny you should ask i'm ready for a second time you know and so so then that second one is a little bit heavier dose and and and i laid down and had this you know very warm feeling and you get the it's a vibration in your head i've described it to people that want to um I mean, it's it's an impossible thing to accurately describe, but I would say that if you've ever watched those videos of people playing around with sound, sound vibration and speakers, and they'll take like a plexiglass piece and they'll put a speaker underneath it
00:15:41
Speaker
and they'll drop sand on it and they'll crank up the the volume and this and everything will start to vibrate. And that sand will start to kind of bounce around a little bit and you hit it with the right frequency. And it turns into this like beautiful sacred geometry, and but it's because of that frequency. Well, that's the frequency that's going on like right inside your skull. And it's like, a mo you know, like, like it's revving up and and and and you get that vibration and,
00:16:08
Speaker
And once it kicks in um you get the geometrical shapes and and all that. it it's not and i the Both times I've done it it, it's not like an entity type thing. I don't feel like there's not like a woman telling me it's going to be okay. There's no form or figures or anything like that. It was more all in my head, um vibrational.
00:16:31
Speaker
And when I came out of it, I was sobbing, right? I i didn't know I was, but I was. And I sat up and, you know, had had tears going down my eyes. I was blowing my nose on my shoulder because I didn't have i didn't even have a shirt on, you know.
00:16:47
Speaker
And... um And you get, and, and so I, I, I left that experience, got done, walked down to the beach, kind of got in the water a little bit.
00:16:58
Speaker
And I, I left that, you know, that experience feeling like I had dissolved any sort of, uh, no, any sort of what ifs, you know, I, I, you know, you have, you always have a little what ifs with when when you're You know, your're face you're you're with somebody at the end of their life.
00:17:21
Speaker
You know, what if we'd done this differently? What if I'd done this? What if I'd noticed this was a problem earlier? Maybe I could have treated her and saved her or whatever, you know, the things that you tell yourself. And I... um and So any sort of guilt that I had about that, I didn't have a ton because I was there and I was proactive and I was dedicated. And once you gave me the protocol, it was every day. we i I mean, i I didn't miss. I was just, you know, it got to be a bit of a groundhog day when I was in Vegas, you know, because I was waking up and it was kind of the same day and i was in this really small apartment and I was just constantly in in you know, watching
00:18:01
Speaker
the most important person in my world slowly die. And so I did have guilt about that. And I did wish that things were different, but, uh, after the Bufo, um, and processing that,
00:18:17
Speaker
I feel like i let I let any of that go. And I don't have that sort of feeling. i know I did everything, you know. we and we and And I had a great relationship with my mom. She really good good. And she was such a grew such a wonderful person to everybody. To the point where, like, I i called up... ah called up her auto insurance to cancel it when after she'd passed away and i had to tell the lady on the phone that you know i'm you know her son and she goes oh yeah i know your mom and the lady ah who answered the phone at the auto insurance place was in tears she's like your mom's so great i was like wow like i mean like everybody loved her she's a very nice person yeah and and you got a chance to talk to her too know And and but um but by the way, when we, I think I said it to you, but when when we spoke with her for an hour, basically, 15 minutes, we're talking about her and and health stuff and supplements and and and lab work. And the other 45 minutes, we she just basically was just telling me stories about you and how much, like how proud she was of you and how awesome you are.
00:19:30
Speaker
And it was it was such an epic experience, you know. Yeah. I could see i could see what why people people would like her because like what what an epic lady, you know?
00:19:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Real, real, real wonderful. You know, good sense of humor, even till the till the very end, she said to me, one of the last conversations we had, she said to me, she goes, how, you know, she's just exhausted from dying, you know? and And she just goes, how does this all work? What am I supposed to do? Like go to bed and wake up dead?
00:20:02
Speaker
And I said, yeah, if we do it right, like if you do it right, that's, that's exactly how, how we do it. And three days later she went to bed and woke up dead. Yeah.
00:20:13
Speaker
So, so I, I, that was, you know, that was my intention for the Bufo experience. Obviously it was, it was the most profound thing that had happened to me. Uh, and it was recent. And, and so I had to process that and I knew that,
00:20:29
Speaker
Knowing what I knew about Bufo. And whereas, you know, it's not a mushroom trip where you're out, like, I'm going to pick up this rock and look at this rock. And, you know, and it's, it's, it's different. And it's a like a spiritual car wash. It puts you through like, and you know, 10 minutes and kind of gets all the stuff off of you that you've been holding in and carrying around. And, and it, it fills you with a sense of ah peace. and the time I did it before what was interesting about it was that the, the feeling I got in the aftermath of that was that, um, I was going to have a, a much bigger voice.
00:21:09
Speaker
And I didn't really know what that meant, but I made an assumption that it was because at, at that event, I was showing people, I was talking to some of the finance people there about um a project I wanted to do, which was turning my octopus book into an eight part documentary series. And so I was showing people the trailer that we had made for that and ah was talking to people about raising money.
00:21:36
Speaker
So when I have this bufo experience last year i'm thinking oh you know it says you're going to have a much bigger voice so oh okay well that's probably that the documentary series gets made right and but but what it was was that a couple months after that that's when the activist post guys reached out to me and said hey we're looking to uh sell this company and we want to make sure somebody with a who's ideologically aligned and has the right sort of vision for it would, would take over. Would you be interested? And I said, no initially. And then I was in the shower like two days later and I was like, what am I doing?
00:22:14
Speaker
Oh my God. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. This is the, this is the voice. This is the, you're going to have a bigger voice. This is it. I just got an email out of the blue from these guys.
00:22:25
Speaker
I hadn't been taught. I hadn't talked to, to, to them in months. Yeah. might Maybe even a year. And so um i I realized that like, okay, so the universe is sort of arranging things, putting things in front of me. Now it's my job to act on it and and take that to recognize it is, you know, what this is.
00:22:47
Speaker
And when you get that feeling that you're going to have a bigger voice and then out of the blue, someone offers you this opportunity, you ah you jump on it.
00:22:58
Speaker
If you're, big you you know, the universe can only do so much, arrange things, put things in your, but then it's up to you and your free will to recognize and then act on it. So, so that was the first Bufo trip. And so I got that. And so that, and I didn't have any intentions for that one.
00:23:14
Speaker
That was, let's see what this is and let's see where it goes. And I had that feeling the second time, the one with you, my intention was let's clear out any sort of cosmic baggage I have from the the situation with my mom.
00:23:26
Speaker
Not, not, not, in not to, forget about her, of course, but to, but to, to remove any sort of guilt or, um, sadness that I had and just sort of remind myself that this is a a magical trip.
00:23:43
Speaker
You should be so lucky to have, uh, a parent in your life who, you know, I'm 52. So I got her for 52 years. She was 84. So,
00:23:54
Speaker
I mean, had a lot of people would hate to you guarantee me 84. I'll take it, you know? So, so that's, uh, you know, i can't throw my, ah can't shake my fist at the sky and scream. Why, why this happened in poor old me.
00:24:10
Speaker
There's a lot of people that have it much worse off. I I'm grateful for what I had. And so that was my intention coming in, man. And, and, and in the aftermath of that, I feel, um,
00:24:22
Speaker
I feel lighter, little bit more emotionally, ah you know, ready to process the fact that that was the end of an era. And now, now we've got a new era. Now I've got activist post and natural blaze and and everything that's going on with that. And unfortunately I don't get the,
00:24:39
Speaker
ah opportunity to do what I had done with the podcast. The reason why my mom talked to you so much about that this and everything I've been doing is because i I could talk to her about that. She was open. She was interested in those things. And and I would have definitely been saying, hey, look at this article we published on this post. And it would have i would have had all that. So I don't get to have that. And i and I'm...
00:24:58
Speaker
And, and that is, uh, obviously a sadness that I'll have, but I understand. And, and it, and it's and a nice delineation between that era and this new era moving forward where things have changed and, and, uh,
00:25:13
Speaker
Some people have cycled out of my life and um new opportunities have have have cycled in. And so I'm excited. I left that experience on the beach feeling very content about things.
00:25:26
Speaker
So what about you? how What was your experience with it? Oh, man, like I was so even when coming up to the flying to fly into Mexico, i was like, oh, damn, how am I going to wheeze a lot of this one?
00:25:39
Speaker
What excuse am I going to make? I was scared. I was nervous. um But it was the same with like going to Mexico. like ah ah i I was like, oh man, at some point I'm going to tell Charlie that I'm not going to Anarchapulco this year.
00:25:52
Speaker
I can't put myself through that pain of that traveling and all that. you know ah But then you offered me the the plus one ticket. I'm like, oh God. like I offered you the plus one ticket that i didn't actually even have.
00:26:06
Speaker
it turned out. I was like, I told the stage manager, um Christian Yordanov is going to be my plus one. She's like, you don't have a plus one. I'm like, I don't. I just promised him my plus one. She's like, I'll take care of it. I'm like, thank you. Yeah.
00:26:19
Speaker
So when when, when you offered me that, I'm like, oh damn, well I can't like refuse that. If I yeah refuse that, I'm an idiot. And I, I think I'm not. So, but it it was, yeah, it was a similar thing with the booth. So I'm like, oh dude, how am I gonna, how am I gonna wheeze a lot of this one? And even during the week, i'm like, oh man, I need to think of like an excuse, but here's, it so just to, to be perfectly transparent, the biggest reason I was a bit worried is,
00:26:46
Speaker
um i've been I was taking for about a year cyperheptadine, which is a serotonin receptor blocker, right? And what can happen, and I did it for like ah anti-aging purposes, stuff like that, you know.
00:27:00
Speaker
um But what can happen when you take a serotonin antagonist, serotonin receptor antagonist is... the body, because it needs some of these receptors for physiological purposes, it can upregulate the serotonin receptors. So if you then stop, you have more receptors, and if you take a hit of some like like psychedelic whatever,
00:27:27
Speaker
it can be profoundly more, dramatically more um strong than normal. So that I was just like, am I going to be able to withstand what what will it is about to ensue?
00:27:40
Speaker
And I'm not sure... um because i've I've not seen how people react to this. I saw how you reacted to to it. you You were twitching your body a little bit and, um you know, you yeah i could sense, because you went before me, I could already sense some kind of energy and almost like a peace and love emanating.
00:28:05
Speaker
So it was already having an effect on me. So in my opinion, my it hit me hard. I don't know what what it was like from the sidelines, but I think at one point I was twitching and I was like heaving. and like oh I couldn't like even like handle it.
00:28:23
Speaker
You have to remind yourself to breathe. There's a temptation to go, hold your breath like, I'm just going to ride this. No, no, no. You're going to breathe whole thing. Yeah, so bare heart. I think he was playing some of the instruments or singing. He was, yeah.
00:28:37
Speaker
Just to kind of... get the the the sort of the the mind that is trying the ego mind trying to control the situation and get back out of it to let go and eventually I let go and so it hit me, it' dude it hit like the second hit, it just hit me like a ton of bricks. I remember I just, he told me hold. And then ah at that point, it was just like ah train just hits you.
00:29:04
Speaker
And this sort of black kaleidoscopic stuff. And at that point, I remember falling back down or kind of, you know, going back into the into the chair. And it was, the intensity was like on
00:29:20
Speaker
I just cannot put into words as you as you kind of know, it's very difficult. But once that subsided and I was in that couple of minutes or whatever of being given ah a hug by God or spirit, a glimpse into eternity and and unconditional love upon which the universe rests and just the complexity of spirit and the immense power of the force that animates this tiny sliver.
00:29:53
Speaker
If we're talking about layers, we're like an infinity amount of layers and we just one tiny layer, like a sheet, in if you print a paper, you have 500 pages and each one is like a different level of reality and we're just this tiny little one And there's so much underpinning it and it's so vast and like the the tiny sort of human limited brain of the five senses cannot fathom it only for maybe a few moments when you get this glimpse and then you understand it's all it's all based in unconditional love.
00:30:26
Speaker
Dude, I i think i was crying for like 10 minutes at least after that, if not more. just it was It's heavy duty. It's the most powerful psychedelic known to man. It is. every bit worth the price. see why they call it the gold molecule.
00:30:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. yeah So I'm super, super grateful to have experienced that, you know, with you, bro. Well, yeah, I'm glad you did too. And I've done it in, in, in an Arcapulco before where it's powdered and you didn't smoke it, but instead they blow it up your nose. And that's a, that was like a 40 minute trip, but it's, but that one was more,
00:31:05
Speaker
life review. I was watching, not not judging necessarily, but it was like, if you've ever seen that movie Defending Your Life that came out like in the 90s, it's fantastic where they they they die and they go to this sort of ah you know they They go to a place where they're like, it's a purgatory, but it's it's almost like a resort.
00:31:27
Speaker
And they have like a trial set up where you have to defend your your actions throughout your life. and you watch And they would sit there and watch on this big screen TV. They'd watch scenes for their life as a kid. And that was how it felt the the first time I did it. It wasn't Bufo, but it's 5-MeO-DMT, which is really kind of the same thing. yeah And...
00:31:48
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and And so it just, it kind of depends on how you ingest it and what the setting is. and And I did that with Johnny Dollar, who you met. that was That was, he was my partner for that.
00:32:01
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and And, you know, I've just, i've I've always been drawn to psychedelics just because I think that there's, you you just want to know what what, how does this all work? Yeah.
00:32:15
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not that you're going to necessarily get, you know, have it all figured out, but like, yeah you know, if I want, I know it's more than this. I know it's more than the visible light spectrum. I know it's more than, you know, there's a lot of religions that have made a lot of money by telling you what happens after you're dead and this and that. And,
00:32:33
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and psychedelics allow you to just peek behind the curtain for a little bit see what you think see see if you can make sense of it they're all sort of a little different in the mechanics but the DMT ones boy they just open you up to that this is such a complex and unusual universe that any idea of certainty that you have you know coming out of it like I'm positive that this and this happens like boy man yeah don't know if I'm positive about much of anything think but but
00:33:04
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And the most incredible thing is that we produce these molecules. And, yeah that you know, if you're releasing, I wonder, if you're releasing, let's say, 5-MeO-DMT or LN-DMT at the moment of death,
00:33:19
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could that be some kind of way for us to just transition from the this physical reality out of the body and make that experience sort of a little bit less because it it can be an uncomfortable experience and maybe that's like the spark that gives pushes i us into whatever other level we're supposed to go to you know Yeah, spiritual lubricant gets you out of your get your soul, out of your physical body and and out elsewhere.
00:33:50
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i I was thinking about that when my mom died because I had been and been very vocal with her. yeah I had a very honest relationship with her. I would tell her back when I was a freshman in college that I had had done mushrooms. And I was like, there's a magic in that.
00:34:08
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I mean, they don't call it magic mushrooms for nothing. But there's there's a There's something else. And I said, I feel like it's really beneficial. And I feel like i feel like my brain feels better. And it wasn't until like 20 years later, I was able to show her that, hey, look at this study I found. It shows it reconnects neural pathways that have been disconnected and ah explain it.
00:34:27
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And I'd always kind of talked to i said, have one of these days. you and I got to do some mushrooms. You know, I was telling my mom that and, and, and she's like, I'm too scared. I've never done it, you know, and it never really happened.
00:34:37
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And I explained to her about the DMT trips and and how that all worked. And I showed her the movie, the DMT, the spirit molecule. And as she watched she's like, Whoa, that is crazy. So there was part of me that was like, you know, at her moment of death,
00:34:52
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She'll have that trip. She'll have a trip when the body sort of floods, you know, with DMT and at that at that moment of release. And I wonder if she'll think, oh, this is what he was talking about. you know, this is this. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. This is crazy because you get.
00:35:12
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Disassociated from your body, which I think is scary to most people that rightly so, but, but you, when you do it, oh boy, you just, you just feel like.
00:35:26
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There's part of you that feels like your entire existence has been a lie. You know, all all this has been hidden from me the whole time. Why can't I, why can't I tap into this? Why can't, if my pineal gland is making this DMT and I'm, and I'm processing it, my body is obviously great at synthesizing it, which is why it doesn't really stay and in your system too long. It's got a lot of practice doing it, but then you've got these, this situation in your gut, which is nullifying it.
00:35:50
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And it's like, How are we built? Are we designed with a flaw in us? Is this, or is this an intentional design where, well, God, you can't just tap into this DMT all day long or else you'd never get anything done. You'd live in, you'd have one foot in one world and one foot in another world and you'd be schizophrenic or something. Yeah.
00:36:15
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So it's, it's amazing to me the first time he did ayahuasca, ah that, that I had this thought, I remembered a Graham Hancock interview where he was talking about, you know, there's a, there's a, uh,
00:36:31
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125,000 different plant species in the rainforest. And they found that the leaves of one plant and the root of another, brew them together in a particular method. And you know you do this for three days and you get this disgusting concoction, which you would never rightly think to drink, but you do. And then it takes you to the edge of the universe.
00:36:53
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And he said that he asked the shaman, like, how did you figure this out? And their response was the jungle told us. And I remember sitting up with a head full ayahuasca going, Oh, I get that.
00:37:07
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I understand. That sounds like a crazy thing to a sober thing to say. Like it's crazy to say that the jungle told you, but in that mindset, I thought, Oh, I bet, I bet it. I bet it did.
00:37:19
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You know, for those who, who have the, the ears to hear it, you know? So I, I've, I've always thought that there's, power and and benefits in psychedelics. It's one of the reasons why i I, and you know, it's one of the reasons why I wanted you to come in and have that experience too, because it's like, I know it's going to be good. I mean, I don't know what your trip will be, but I know it will be whatever it needs to be.
00:37:48
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yeah And, and that in the aftermath of that, It'll just put you on just ah just a tiny just a little bit of a tiny different trajectory. a good You know, but even like do like the last couple of weeks, I'll wake up in the middle of the night just to kind of turn on the other side.
00:38:05
Speaker
Yeah. And it's just like a dream. that I wake out of and I've been dreaming like at least that I remember at least three times of airports and journeys and it just like yeah it reframe my whole experience of this life and how how much that means.
00:38:25
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It means a lot of course, each moment is precious and and sacred, but it just framed the in in terms of eternity, in terms of my personal evolution as a part of this grander universe spirit, how but potentially this is an infinite journey or potentially this is a journey where you gradually ascend and merge back into God, maybe then to be spat out at the beginning, way at the beginning, and maybe this like the sine wave into eternity, but just wake up out of some kind of a dream that signifies journey, like the constant sort of journey, our journey.
00:39:10
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of development and and and evolution or whatever you want to call it, progression. And I'm just like, i just say thank you, spirit. You know, like bare heart. Just say thank you. if If you feel that feeling again, just if you feel overwhelmed, just say thank you and understand it's happening for you.
00:39:28
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It's not happening to you. It's happening for you. It's all part. Like everything is part of a grander design it is perfect even though it might not seem like it in our limited sort of three-dimensional five sense form yeah i think it's um
00:39:50
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but I think that I have, it's, you know, it's changed my life over the years, the, the, the psychedelics. I think it it also, let's be honest, if you're, if you're writing about the book, you know, the topics I write about and, you know.
00:40:06
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you're already asking major questions about things. so And psychedelics, as Terrence McKenna say, psychedelics open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.
00:40:17
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And that is a huge like ego dissolution right there. You go, okay, okay. if ah If everything I know is wrong, then I've got a lot of work to do. I got to start from the beginning and and sort sort of figure this out. and um And I also think that a lot of the people that are in our little world of ah questioning authority and you know questioning ah yeah everything really – One common denominator is psychedelics.
00:40:47
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Almost everybody that I know that's in that world has done them. And that is a real trigger that that is sort of like you you you do that and you go, oh yeah. the wait, there's so much more to this. And anybody that wants to keep you from that or anybody that wants to keep you believing that this is all that there is or that ah you can't talk to God. Only I can talk to God because I wear this robe and I have this staff. And and if you want, in you know, and and if you want to, you tell me and then I'll tell God.
00:41:19
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but I'm not doing that. And you want me to pay that? written No, I'm not. this is this was This is crazy. This doesn't make any sense. And so it starts to kind of peel back some of the and the filters that we look at the world through and you go, Oh my God, like in retrospect that this, I can't, I shouldn't be believing this nonsense that that I've been told my entire life to believe.
00:41:40
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And, and that makes you hard. It makes you harder to control because you start to, the control structure start to start to show themselves in a very profound way. You recognize ah you, you see them, they start to jump out everywhere. I I've always kind of described it as yeah those, you There are these paintings that that that look like just a bunch of dots.
00:42:01
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And you you go in some some store that sells like posters or paintings or whatever, and and it'll be just a bunch of dots. And you stand there and you squint your eyes and you look at it, and then you go, oh my God, an elephant.
00:42:13
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It's an elephant. I can see the elephant now. Yeah. and It's just the way that in which your brain kind of works. and and and Whether it's psychedelics or whether it's just getting honest about the the control structure, once you see the elephant, you can always see the elephant.
00:42:30
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But the person standing next to you can can be looking at the same painting and they'll go, I just don't see it. And that is how I've felt about the world that we live in is is that I wanted to see the elephant and now I can see it.
00:42:46
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and And once you can, i can always go back there. I can always kind of put my brain in that spot to to see the dots in in a different way. and And I'm always a bit surprised that the person next to me can't see it.
00:43:03
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Yeah. But you know, for me, over the last couple of weeks, it seems like, I don't know, is it part of the cleansing aspect? I was holding some grudges against people in the past that I tried to wake up, I sent them information, they made fun of me, this kind of stuff, or lost friends.
00:43:22
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And... There was and accumulating amount of sort of this stuff, especially after the scandemic and all this stuff happened. People were even more people people are even more sort of divided.
00:43:35
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so it feels like now
00:43:40
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having glimpsed this grander design or and a tiny aspect of this grander design because it's probably so much grander than we can even through the the best, ah most um potent psychedelics, we still are very much limited by because these things act on our receptors and you know, we're we're limited beings at least in this and this incarnation.
00:44:02
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um But it just allowed me to see how in this grand infinite spirit, all possibilities must be must be available to us. and Maybe some of us are meant to come here to the Earth School to suffer, some to wake up, some to have already been woken up for many you know previous lifetimes.
00:44:30
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that they have a bigger role, ah ah maybe on the good guy's side, maybe they come back, they're on the bad guy's side, maybe they have to experience all sides, and this is just a grand theater of of of the universe that we're ah part of, and it's it's it's like a game that God, the creator, is playing, because you know it's infinitely powerful, it can do all of these things, and then some.
00:44:57
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Why? Because it can, I don't know. so um i've become more tolerant to other people's my point there was sorry uh i've become more tolerant to people that don't see the truth that we see and don't don't believe the things we believe you know yeah they might be here too on a different mission exactly exactly
00:45:18
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yeah so do you want to talk about your lab work Yeah, let's talk about it. so Am I going to die? you You're an eternal being.
00:45:29
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No, you you you cannot die because you're an eternal being. There you go. According to the ceremony. According to the lab results.
00:45:40
Speaker
yeah No, yeah imagine they tell you that. It's like when when my um when my um daughter was born, she was a few months old, and um my wife's mother would be be visiting, and she she'd be telling her her name.
00:45:55
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This is your name. This is your name. I am this. I am this. You are your name. And I'm there on the sidelines. I know it's that's normal. That's how we have to do it and stuff, to so the child can operate in the world and not be like weird.
00:46:08
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But i'm like, no. You're so much more than that, baby. You are so much more than that. All right, let me share the screen, bro. So, as always, your lab work is...
00:46:28
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better it looks better than than most people that I work with. yeah know you can youre You obviously don't have health problems to speak of, very very kind of glaring health problems, so most clients that come to me they have quite a few health issues issues going on. So the this Metabolomics Plus report um Basically, it gives us like ah this little dashboard. So if you have a need for antioxidants, mitochondrial support, reduced toxic exposure, methylation support, so yeah it it kind of looks at markers that can indicate oxidative stress or damage happening to the body, the tissues, the cells, the whatever the...
00:47:06
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brain cells, the mitochondria inside the cells, mitochondrial dysfunction where there's specific blockages in our energy production pathways, which is what the ah major role of the mitochondria, that's what they do.
00:47:20
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It can look at various indicators of toxic exposure, and methylation, which you know we don't really have to get into. But I'll tell you, we can probably just go over what I see on the report and maybe I can ask you some questions and that will help me to refine your protocol even further. than i So I've published one protocol for you based on my initial impression and then maybe this can help us tweak some things.
00:47:48
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Does that make sense? Yeah. So this this here... um this chart, anything that's green, generally your mark it means the marker that they are measuring is in a normal range for your age group.
00:48:08
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Anything that's yellow or red means there's there's something there's an issue there. So this is a very high level um chart of the various ways we can produce energy. So we have fatty acids, which, you know, there's a couple of markers here that we can measure so we can see based on if these are low, high, we can see that if there's certain deficiencies. So we have carbohydrates, that's we have proteins and amino acids. So these, a lot of these pathways lead to this thing called acetyl-CoA, which then goes into the citric acid cycle. So this is this is a major, one of the major pathways to producing energy. So as you can see here,
00:48:44
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ah As we get into the cycle, you have citric acid, cisacognitic, isocitric and alpha-ketoglutaric. right So these are yellow and one is red and then the rest are green. So what I'm seeing here is potentially some blockages along the energy production pathway.
00:49:03
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Now, they also have, if we zoom in, you see here, they theyve give you what factors are needed. So for example, here you need vitamin B3, magnesium and manganese.
00:49:17
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Here you need iron and glutathione. And here they show you the toxic metals which can interfere with this step of the pathway. So here you have mercury, arsenic, and so on and so forth, right?
00:49:29
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And then from here we go into the um electron transport chain which is again another pathway to producing energy and they measure things like lipid peroxides down here. They give you like a snapshot of is this yellow, red or ah green and then 8OH-TG, that's a marker for DNA damage and this will make sense in in a little while.
00:49:49
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So the next page of the report there's various organic acids. So we we've done one organic acids test with you in the past. And I had a look at that briefly before I looked into this, just so we can kind of compare any any glaring things on the first one to see if if there's there's still an issue. And there weren't many, to be honest with you.
00:50:11
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The last time... You had the biggest sort of thing that I i remember was you had the glutathione, so the antioxidant, the master antioxidant glutathione. That was indicating that it was ah on the a little bit on the low end, some kind of deficiency of it, which could be ah protein, like not eating enough protein. It could be increased toxic exposure. right So I was looking out for that.
00:50:34
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and then you have a little bit of Candida, ah the the the one marker for Candida was slightly elevated. you did a whole protocol for that. And here on the top left, we have so we have malabsorption and dysbiosis markers. So this is related to the gut. so The first couple of markers are in range, so nothing nothing is telling us that you're not you have potentially malabsorption in the gut. right So you've already done some gut protocols.
00:51:00
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Your gut function was already in pretty good shape right before because you've been doing healthy healthy behaviors. right that You've been doing the chemical free body supplements and you eat clean and you live...
00:51:13
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you know living ah By the way, living at high at high altitude, i I don't know if you know, but that actually increases the the mitochondria in your cells. and people That can be a longevity and performance promoter. I don't know if you know that.
00:51:27
Speaker
Nice. Did not know that. For those listening or watching, I live in Denver. Yeah, so you're like 5,000 feet? At altitude. You're like 5,000 feet, right? yeah fifty Yeah. Where we are is like about 5,500 feet.
00:51:40
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Yeah, so some sports teams go to train at high altitude, so then, like before World Cup soccer whatever, then if it's, let's say, at sea level, they can perform better because they're there's um adaptations, like more but mitochondria, mitochondria biogenesis, things like that.
00:51:59
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And when you have more mitochondria, you can actually produce more energy if all the you know energy, fuel, vitamins, minerals, all those pathways are supported. like So in in some ways, I'm i'm starting to think look with this context that these markers up here, could they could this just be maybe a prolonged fast? but Did you by any chance, what time did you normally have dinner?
00:52:34
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ah Maybe 8 o'clock. 8 o'clock. And then you would have collected the sample maybe between 6 and 8 in the morning? The next day? Yeah. Okay, so so usually a prolonged fast can cause so some... but So what what I'm seeing... And by the way, just just to wrap up the the dysbiosis and and... So eastern fungal markers, so candida, potentially, there's one here that could be a mold exposure. It's actually below detectable level.
00:53:03
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So that's great. Your eastern fungal markers are... within range, so nothing to worry about that. Your dysbiosis marker, benzoic, or just one is in the yellow, but that can be elevated through quite a lot of pathways other than gut dysbiosis. So nothing gut-wise screaming anything at me, and I am assuming your gut function is is good since we yeah as we've spoken. that Yeah, so...
00:53:30
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All good here. So here the only so the next section is the cellular energy and mitochondria marker. so this So the the in that graphic up there, these are some of the markers of energy metabolism, citric acid, cis-okinetic, isocitric. So these are on the low end and um you had one here, lactic acid was low, but overall,
00:53:54
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I'm just wondering, could this be... You don't eat a lot, do you? You're not the kind of guy that eats a lot. No. And you're pretty I don't lot. I don't eat often, and when I eat, I don't eat a ton anyway.
00:54:08
Speaker
ah yeah And you're pretty lean. Yeah. You're like, what, like eight nine percent body fat, right? I'm 151 pounds. so yeah But you're like six pack year round, right?
00:54:21
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Yeah. Yeah, so like Charlie, so you're not a typical client, of course, right? So normally, so yeah if I, in your specific context, what this indicates for to me is these lower energy metabolism markers, being some of these being, you see how They're all, except one, are low-ish, borderline, or or straight up in the yellow low.
00:54:46
Speaker
So that just indicates to me, potentially, that you may you may be under-eating somewhat. I probably am. Yeah. So something like this, i think, could be... what what What I tell... I recently had a client sign up. He actually is a fan of yours.
00:55:06
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And um he kind of eats like a couple of times a day. Tall, <unk> pretty lean, very active. And this was one of the first things we we we start we went about addressing is you may... i told This is what I told him.
00:55:21
Speaker
You may be leaving some good... repair and regeneration on the table. Because if you, let's say have the protein and the carbs, what that will do is, first of all, very unlikely to be to to be stored as fat because protein is exceedingly difficult to turn into fat and carbs, they don't actually get turned to fat in a healthy person, like 1-2% actually turn get turned into fat.
00:55:47
Speaker
So the only way to get fat, increasing calories, is to increase calories a lot I need a lot of fat. So I don't think it would actually cause you ah unless unwanted weight gain in terms of fat. In fact, it can actually help you work out probably harder and gain more muscle mass. So i would in your in your situation, I would say eating more protein and eating more carbs is probably going to do you a lot of good.
00:56:10
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And the reason I say that is if we look at the... So on the other side of the first ah sort of page with markers, we have vitamin markers. So here we see a lot of B1, B2, B3. So nothing crazy in the yellow indicating vitamin B1, B2, and B3 deficiencies, right, so far.
00:56:30
Speaker
Potentially one is, you know, in the yellow. We have one for folate that's kind of in the red, that could be B deficiency potentially. um But then what what I see here is this xanthyrinic acid, so this is the neurotransmitter metabolite section.
00:56:46
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The xanthyrinic acid being borderline, this can be caused by insufficient vitamin B6, that's why I added B6 to your protocol just for a couple of months.
00:56:57
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to normalize that if it's an issue. And there was other things in the elsewhere on the lab work that was indicating ah need for vitamin B6. But overall, so far, you know this is not like serious problems. This could be something that can easily be solved by just eating 50, 100 grams more of carbs a oh sorry yeah fifty hundred grams more of carbs a day like fruit or whatever you like, and maybe more protein.
00:57:28
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I think more protein for sure will help you out. The quinolinic acid, this marker here, that indicates neuroinflammation. That's like bad.
00:57:39
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So you're way, way in the green on both of these. So that's always a good thing. So I actually have one, potentially one in three clients roughly that are in the yellow indicating that they've had, this is what I'm talking about in terms of, so you're, you're not a typical client. Like a lot of, a lot of people, this first page, because there's so many markers, the red is like, like a Christmas tree, you know, in many cases.
00:58:04
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So you're, We're talking about minor optimizations here. Now, another thing, so we the catecholamine marker, so catecholamines are things like dopamine, adrenaline, noradrenaline. So what I'm seeing here, the homo vanillic acid marker, that's a dopamine breakdown product. And now dopamine...
00:58:23
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What can happen, this gets a little bit sort of ah um tied back into eating sufficiently. when a person Just as an example, when a person cuts their calories, over time, what happens is their dopamine levels will drop.
00:58:41
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And that um is because generally serotonin will rise. Now in your case, your serotonin marker is this 5-OH-indoacetic acid.
00:58:52
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That's smack bang in the middle, which is good. So if it was low, it can indicate you're not breaking down serotonin, which can cause you problems. If it's elevated, it can indicate you have a lot of serotonin, there's a lot of turnover.
00:59:04
Speaker
So the fact that you're smack bang in the middle, To me, it seems like you don't have any sort of genetic um polymorphisms in the genes around this, so you're you're probably metabolizing things very well.
00:59:18
Speaker
You're probably not deficient in ah vitamin B2, riboflavin, which is good. But what I would say is we want to boost the dopamine level because probably what will happen is...
00:59:28
Speaker
When we can take a person that potentially has a low dopamine level and we can boost it, they feel improvement in... improvements in in um how they feel, libido, desire to do stuff, motivation, just a lot of beneficial things happen.
00:59:48
Speaker
right So I actually have a way, a couple of supplements in your protocol that can boost dopamine. if Now I know you're a bit more sensitive to supplements than most people, so if you don't if they don't jive with you, just let me know and we can...
01:00:02
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you know We can skip them. We can always... Yeah, the the one that always got me was zinc. I take those zinc pills and I just throw up. Yeah. Yeah, it kind of sucks. Yeah. um so and then So here, when we go down to the toxin and detoxification markers, so the the the two middle markers, these are...
01:00:23
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these are usually elevated when people live in the big city and they drive a car and they're in traffic a lot and these are styrene and MTB which is like a gasoline additive right so you're well in the green so not indicating that you're obviously living Colorado up in the mountains probably you know your air is fresher and a nicer than lot of big cities so not Not much indication of acute toxic exposure.
01:00:52
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and However, if you recall last time, so this this marker pyroglutamic, that's an indicator of glutathione deficiency when it's high or when it's low or elevated and low.
01:01:06
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Now, on your first organic acids test, it was kind of high. and So it was more like in in this area here. which which you know we put some some stuff in place for that. Now this time around, it's actually in the yellow but on the low end.
01:01:21
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So to me, this this is why we want to add glycine to your protocol, right? But this is also this can be low because of insufficient protein intake. That's another that's another reason. So a lot of a lot of issues can, ah at least the way I'm seeing them here, in your case, can be alleviated by, you know what, simply eating another steak every day, like ah an eight ounce steak or whatever, sixs to six to eight ounce steak, depending on kind of how much, what your appetite is like.
01:01:56
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I think that... will probably do you a lot of good because remember that beef or yeah red meat specifically has a lot of its muscle and muscle has a lot of mitochondria and mitochondria have a lot of the things that require to run them which includes a lot of the things that we're measuring for here so um vitamins B1, B2, B3, alpha lipoic acid, you know, biotin, vitamin B6, all of these are in red meat and you're getting amino acids for glutathione, getting those B vitamins and you're getting a bunch of other good stuff there. So i think literally that's what I would do next because it's so easy, right?
01:02:37
Speaker
I know you probably, you know, if you're... I'd love that my recommendation is eat more steak. Yeah. you If you, if you can, yeah and also, also eggs, do are you an egg guy?
01:02:53
Speaker
Yeah. I, I, I've actually been eating eggs a lot more lately. How many would you say you, you average per day over the course of a week? Well, I, when I eat them, I'll eat like three eggs, but, um, that might only happen twice a week.
01:03:10
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Okay. yeah Yeah, I'll probably do like at least every second day those three eggs. yeah i And when I say at least, if you if you can eat three eggs every every two days and then an extra, like I said, five to eight ounces ah roughly of meat, the more the merrier, of course.
01:03:31
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I think that would probably improve a lot of these things if we were to retest it in a month of you doing that. on its own before we even factor in all the supplements that I sent you. Right.
01:03:42
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Okay. That's good to know. So overall, like, again, minor things that the beauty of this test is that we always find, even like the healthiest people, we always find stuff to optimize. And there is, it's like a, I have a video about this. It's,
01:03:58
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It's not a sprint, it's not a marathon, the health thing, the longevity thing. It's a game and there's infinite levels. And we just have to find the level where things are easy enough to maintain in terms of habits, supplements, diet, toxin reduction, all that stuff, where we also enjoy the game. So we we're not like at home.
01:04:16
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popping pills all day and hiding from toxins and radiation and you know with her tinfoil hats on so and I think you you have a great ah also given the fact that you're very active and you know you you love you love life and you i love I've seen this firsthand you love life and you enjoy life to the fullest I in especially with that context these results are really good if you know what I mean good And then here's a, so we have a couple of these, these markers are awesome. The oxidative stress and oxidative damage. So lipid peroxides, that's quite literally when things in your body that are made with fat, fatty acids, get damaged and then you pee out those lipid peroxides. so
01:05:01
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That can be in a brain cell, in a heart cell, it can be a ah part of a mitochondria, something inside um a membrane in a cell or a blood vessel. So when this is in the yellow, I'm always concerned. And I've done quite a lot of tests like this in the last year.
01:05:18
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And a lot of guys are, again, one maybe one in three guys that come to me that we run this test, they're in the yellow. And actually one one client of mine who was also a listener of yours, he was weighing the red. he So the cutoff is 10. So up here, the red is 10. He was 18.
01:05:36
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And he had a lot of ah lot of health problems. Do you think that the C60 that I take is, because I know it's good for oxidative damage and things like that. So do you think the C60 is part of this? Yeah.
01:05:49
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part of this yeah Yeah, yeah, so some of the stuff i've I've sent you in your protocol for sure helps with that and the C60 on top of that for sure will help you out. Yeah, how much of that do you take, roughly?
01:06:01
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um i could Like a teaspoon. every Every morning? Yeah. Yeah. what's here Dude, this is why i told you before, like we need to study you harder.
01:06:16
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Like science needs to study you harder because this next marker here, 8-OH-TG, which stands for 8-hydroxy-2-deoxyguanosine, just rolls right off the tongue, doesn't it? Yeah.
01:06:29
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This is a marker, like I said earlier, for DNA damage. Now, I see this kind of somewhere like three, four here for most people. And then occasionally we go into the yellow, which is of course concerning. It means you have DNA damage and it's not good.
01:06:45
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But what's crazy is I've never seen it below detectable level. They have not been able to detect it in your urine sample. Oh. Yeah. So maybe it's the C60 and the other stuff you're doing, ah coupled with living at altitude.
01:07:01
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um But in in a normal, I'll tell you this, man, in a normal client with various health problems, you're even moderate health problems, if I see a below detectable level marker like this, I would like, i would email the lab and say, is your were there instrumentation issues at the time of this lab report that you didn't include this marker, but normally they would just have nothing on there.
01:07:26
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Because it's you, I'm actually willing to to accept that they they couldn't find DNA damage markers in your in your urine. wow but But most people, I'd be like, no, this this must be like some kind of anomaly that I need to email the lab. That's why I'm saying we need to study you, dude.
01:07:43
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And actually, I'm going to send you another test this week that I think you'll really love as well. so i do. I love these tests. Yeah. so So then this test is so awesome. Man, the metabolomics test is an amazing test.
01:07:59
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So next up we have amino acids. So as listeners know, amino acids are the building blocks of protein, but we also have amino acids that are not part of protein. So for example...
01:08:09
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taurine, theanine, things like that. So when I look at this in your specific case, what really stands out to me the most is, so the cystothianine being low, this is actually a can be used in on the pathway to make that master antioxidant glutathione. So yours is low, which again could be because of you know low protein intake.
01:08:38
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It could also be low ah vitamin B6 level. That's why I had a specific B6 supplement for you to take for two months, just for two months, just to get those levels up. And when you up your eggs and your your meat,
01:08:52
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You should be able to maintain that because we've addressed any potentially subclinical deficiency in in there. um so But but the this section here, being b be be um when it's low, it can be B vitamin issue related.
01:09:12
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There's a couple of things that are, again, borderline and yellow. So this again goes back to we need to get more B vitamins. That's why there's a specific supplement in your protocol for addressing B vitamins.
01:09:25
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And then you have this citrulline marker. This also can be elevated because of a specific vitamin deficiency, b one more specifically thiamine. So it's quite high. So um I'm going to do a little bit of more research on this um to see but see could there be ah any other issues there. um But the other thing that really sort of stands out to me is the glycine marker.
01:09:47
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See? it's yeah You're again in the yellow. So this... actually cannot necessarily be solved with just upping meat intake because meat, muscle meat is pretty low on glycine and that's why i would recommend because it's so involved in the detox system and in collagen formation And collagen formation isn't just for the the skin, hair, and nails.
01:10:13
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It's for um blood vessels, joints, things like that. So that's why that's why I you know had the the glycine in your protocol. And I really think if if you were to double down on any one thing, I think probably that would be it. I used to take it. You you sent me glycine before.
01:10:34
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Yeah. Yeah, so I sent you both powder and capsule form so you can take the... By the way, when when I was in Mexico, I had a whole 100 capsule, the same one that I sent i sent to you.
01:10:47
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I took a whole thing of that and within those 10 days of that whole trip, I had 10... per day of those. I just took them all, the whole pack in 10 days. And then when I came back, because glycine is part of the collagen network, it's one third of collagen.
01:11:02
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When I came back, my wife was like, you know, she was like caressing my arms like, but your skin is really nice. And so it's either the glycine I was taking or all the sweating that I was doing that kind of exfoliated my skin.
01:11:17
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There was a lot of sweating going on in in Mexico. Yeah, it's hot. Yeah. So that's kind of the the thing that most screams out to me on the amino acid side of things. Again, this one, we're talking, you're not going to feel it now.
01:11:31
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We're talking about if we if we up the intake, we're talking about longevity here because you the more the more of this you have circulating in your body, you can repair it collagen more.
01:11:45
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But more most importantly, you can more readily detoxify things because glycine is part of the antioxidant glutathione. It's one of three amino acids in it. So that's huge in the immune system, and ah you know with um in terms of pathogen stuff, ah neutralizing toxins from from bacteria and stuff like that make it into the body.
01:12:08
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Also toxic metals, chemicals, stuff like that. So it's huge. But also glycine, is used as a as the molecule to bind stuff. So you you can have a... In the liver, when you're transforming a toxin, you can also bind it to glycine.
01:12:26
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So there's multiple ways it can help us to detoxify and kind of keep the body clean of this cleaner of these toxins. And it can also help with sleep when you take it at night. So just myriad of benefits to this amino acid. So it's the kind of thing...
01:12:44
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You just want to continue for forever, basically. Okay. um And then the last section is we have the element markers. We have toxic elements on the left and nutrient elements on the right. So your toxic elements...
01:13:00
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Dude, pretty good. Nothing approaching red. good But what's actually good is you see the lead is 0.1 and the mercury is 0.13.
01:13:11
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ah So lead, mercury and aluminum, if you see how you have in some like platinum is below detectable level, ah less than DL. So I would rather see these 0.1, 0.13 a little bit in the yellow rather than below the detectable level, because these are so prevalent, the lead, mercury, and aluminum specifically, is that if you're below detectable level, it probably indicates you're not detoxifying things well.
01:13:43
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So I'm happy that almost not well three things are below detectable level, but everything is you were pi basically you're pissing out the the chemicals. they're not theyre They're not lodged in your tissues because you don't have energy and capacity to excrete them. So that's that's what I want to believe. Now,
01:14:02
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to play devil devil's advocate, could because your glycine markers, your cystathionine, your glutathione markers were somewhat showing being low or you know subclinical deficiency potentially, could it be that if we up those for a while, these excretion levels would increase? And that that is possible.
01:14:25
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But what in in all situations, if you up the, basically if you add those supplements that I added to your protocol, you may have a period where you actually are excreting more of these, but that's more power too, that's that's the whole point of it.
01:14:39
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And then they'll probably kind of back down and normalize after a while. So in in both situations, we're putting something in place. ah Whether I'm wrong, that you know in either situation, whether I'm wrong, ah or whether it's one or the other, we are putting a place where both even both are basically addressed, no matter what the reality is, if that makes sense.
01:15:01
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It looks like my copper is high. or Yeah, so the copper and the manganese, so this is, remember, this is excretion. So sometimes I've seen i've seen mag magnesium off the charts here.
01:15:14
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That's in a very state, a person with a very poor state of health. That just indicates a very much acute stress. mean In acute stress, we tend to lose things like that. So ah you can lose sodium, you can use magnesium. So I have to...
01:15:30
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I have to sort sort of look into this. So in some people, for example, welders, manganese can be high because they're actually getting manganese exposure. So this is something ah have to look into deeper. Why?
01:15:42
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What can cause high levels of copper? I just didn't have time today. um But we're going to get to the bottom of it. but what i'm So what I'm seeing here is chromium.
01:15:53
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It's kind of low. See, a lot of these are kind of low. so molybium is on the lower end selenium ah vanadium is in the yellow even zinc is a little bit on the on the low end so i've added the mineral supplement in there now that one let me know how you like it if if you don't like it obviously we're goingnna have to yeah yeah but we done that right we might try a liquid one um just the the best way to do it and i've i've outlined that in the protocol
01:16:23
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is if you take it in the middle of the meal a sip of water that it will allow probably hopefully the the capsule to break open and to mix with the meal and then less of an impact in terms of feeling nausea and and kind of any adverse reaction so ah see how you do with it otherwise you know there's always multiple different things we can we can do if it if it doesn't drive with you
01:16:50
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but overall you know like this all of these like i've had for example the worst i've seen is so far is when client will have four of these toxic metals in the in the red and most of these here nurid elements would be low so like yellow red and low green so you're you're doing good you know you're you're doing a lot of good work and of course this is this is what we expected but this test because it has so many layers
01:17:22
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means we can always just find what what can we optimize now like ah like a person that's beginning their journey a lot of things to optimize push that's kind of or on the other side there's less things to optimize and they move the needle less but that's what you do you know like a pro like a pro athlete as you know theyre not trying to improve ten percent year onyear they're trying to pursue but improve one percent if they can every year or a half percent get that edge so that's that's where we are at i believe with you this is great
01:17:53
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yeah great great results i'm glad i'm glad to not see you know the talks ah you know heavy metals and the toxic levels and you not be high yeah i might um and might send you there's another urine test by mosaic they that that you pe and and they they actually can test for ah ah think ah about a hundred and eighty loss toxic metals that might be fun to do once in the in the near future
01:18:24
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but that that's more of a nice to have i rarely run that one but i hope the the next one you're going to love um think so well else i'm gonna ship on up to all this stuff awesome so ah stuff especially when i when i turned fifty you know it was nice to have to run that test and and and see kind of where i am i can go look back at that ah when i'm sixty and say well
01:18:53
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still low and like did i have i gotten better or i worse it's just most to know kind of where things have been so in case something goes wrong then we know what normal was yeah yeah and here's the other thing man so that stress ah you taking care of your mom those three months that really takes a out of people and i believe you told me he lost like was it ten pounds during that time yeah so that that um'm i'm glad we ran this test now to catch these things
01:19:24
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because for for many people out there that's stress could have resulted in a lot more issues you know what i mean like my granny it basically destroyed her health taking care of my grandda those last ten years you know of his life especially the end and couldn't get out of his chair so she would come to carry him that collapse on the floor so she'd be picking him up then she he passed away and then like ah but soon after she had like ah her first
01:19:56
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three or four strokes we believe she had at least three or maybe maybe maybe four so just that care takingking aspect really takes takes it out of people psychologically as as we know but also physically and that's what a lot of people because they're putting that other person's needs ahead of theirs they forget even basic things like just feeding themselves and properly and stuff like that so yeah it's good to catch things like this when i get stressed i don't eat ah some people when they get stressed they ah but um yeah yeah i'm the opposite i i eat do
01:20:29
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because i know that carbs lower we'll lower cortisol and stuff like that i cant ah can't sleep unless i ive eaten ah on an empty stomach so i'll i'll be working even not and not even necessarily when i'm stressed but if i'm like in the middle of a book or something ah my wife will say did you eat today and i'll be like i the fuck i forgot and she'd be like how do you forget to eat yeah i go i to just get busy and i don't i'm not hungry and
01:20:59
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and i and just forget she's like that's the weirdest thing ever that's why i'm telling you we need to study you more because um some of these things that and i want to like i don't want to be withholding what might my what i think and what i would say to someone like a client of mine that like in your situation i would say won't be able to get away that forever you know so
01:21:31
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putting putting things into place now what i tell a lot of clients is find ah carbohydrates you like and and just every if you don't even if you don't want eat just every two three hours like have a little bit of it like if you like maple syup today and yesterday i just been so busy running around doing stuff that just have a bowl of maple dude i know it's weird as fuck but have a bottle of maple maple syrup and i have a couple of gloaks glus drive my daughter to to her preschool then go to my tennis lesson
01:22:02
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couple of glugs so i have energy came back couple of glugs so you know you just figure out what you can so you're adding fuel and your burning fuel as opposed to your your body becoming the few and you're using degeneraterive hormones the cortisol you turn your body into fuel just so you can remain alive really at least now i'm i'm aware that i'm doing it more so and i know that i don't need to and i need be careful with that yeah but again like many many that that's the thing many people
01:22:35
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are able to to do this even in their eighty s and ninety s so um if it ain't broke i don't want to fix it ah just it's important to you know how it is yeah nice good yeah bad work and we did it come all right brother so thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your story again with us and just before we wrap up just let the listeners know where they can connect with you tell them about activists post and all your projects ah can find
01:23:06
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activist post is where you should be getting your news at least bookmarking it checking it out you can get it on your phone too didn't build an app too much centralization of power to the hands of apple and google so you got find it on a browser on your cell phone or just go to activist post dot com when you're desktop computer and it's a we're republishing other writers articles ah a lot of the writers i know pretty well and ah some i don't but who' have been doing outstanding work
01:23:37
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and activist post dot com for that naturalblaze dot com or anything health related that was part of the ah the purchase of of vctor's post came with ah natural blades which is which is tremendous for alternative health and macroaggressions podcast it's twice a week if you're interested in you know i think most people if you listen to the intro to the podcast you'll know like it's a two-minute intro it's pretty chaotic and and and wild you're either into it or you're not so you'll know you'll know pretty pretty early on and then we i do an interview once a week i do a monologue once a week that's it and
01:24:15
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and and then we have a flashback friday show which re <unk>s some of the shows from out throughout the years but we just i just just now crossed into five years of doing the podcast yeah are you doing an amazing job with it and you've been so consistent it's inspirational that's tony merkel for you that was that was who who told me when we started this he said i'll engineer the backend stuff for you so you don't have to do that but he says you got to be consistent you have to deliver like on a schedule and if you don't he said they'll
01:24:49
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but people will forget about you he he literally said they'll think you died and they'll move on to somebody else drcker carlson or something yeah though yeah they don't give them a don't give an opportunity to go oh it stuff isn't here oh well i guess ill i'll just go look somewhere else so so some good habits for from that and also to you know take it take it seriously treat it like like it's ah like it's a real thing and and i do and i like it and i've it's one of the greatest things i've ever it's the greatest job i've ever created for myself and the activists posting is like boy i just added a whole lot more work to my life it's like well but you know what i love
01:25:25
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it i love the mission i love what it represents i love that the information is getting out there so you know like i can deal with it it's fine got it's got to work my ah my oxidative stress levels are so low that you know i can just handle it now exactly exactly ah thank you so much for your time and thanks