Obsession, Mixtape, Starfox

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JohhnyCAGE: Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy Podcast for the week of and month of May 18th, 2026. I'm a little burnt.

JohhnyCAGE: i was I was bragging about it to the boys. I got a little red, red color on me. My name's Devin Kopech. It's hot out here, boys. And with me, Scorching, Steve O'Tierry.

Steve-O: They call me Mr. 99, cause that's my temperature baby.

JohhnyCAGE: And here he is, Mr. Torchion, Chris Kalani.

IGOTTADUMP: Hi, everybody. I'm just so full of it today.

JohhnyCAGE: nine Full of what?

IGOTTADUMP: two weeks. i watched and read so much shit.

JohhnyCAGE: house

IGOTTADUMP: I gotta talk about

JohhnyCAGE: You sound like dungeon crawler Carl. that's That's what you sound like right now. And I...

Steve-O: He's backed up. He's backed up on content.

IGOTTADUMP: i um I am backed up, man.

JohhnyCAGE: and

IGOTTADUMP: I got a lot.

JohhnyCAGE: You, me too. You know what?

IGOTTADUMP: oh i You know what?

JohhnyCAGE: I'll be honest.

IGOTTADUMP: In not a single fucking movie.

JohhnyCAGE: Well, you know what? I was actually, this is where I was going to start with. um Chris, you're a little bit, you big time me this week.

IGOTTADUMP: I did. i did.

JohhnyCAGE: I was, I saw a movie and i was with Chris. Oh my God. This movie was so fucking good. You gotta fucking see it. I didn't think he looked at it. He was, he was nothing, nothing like, oh man.

IGOTTADUMP: Crickets.

Steve-O: I don't have a cricket.

IGOTTADUMP: Crickets.

IGOTTADUMP: If I could have sent crickets, I would have.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. he He basically sent me that that that that gif of Shaq asleep.

Steve-O: For what movie?

Steve-O: was it Was it Aquaman? Was it in Aquaman?

JohhnyCAGE: No, it was it was...

IGOTTADUMP: He was not an Aquaman.

JohhnyCAGE: I saw... ah It was a Aquaman. ah No, i saw I saw Obsession this week.

IGOTTADUMP: Can I be honest with you, devin I was seeing it in another theater.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh... No, you weren't.

Steve-O: Whoa.

JohhnyCAGE: No, you fucking weren't. Cause you wouldn't, you wouldn't respond.

IGOTTADUMP: I made that up.

Steve-O: Whoa.

JohhnyCAGE: you earth i'll tell I'll tell you, I'll tell you that right now.

IGOTTADUMP: I made that up!

JohhnyCAGE: You wouldn't fucking respond.

IGOTTADUMP: I made it up.

JohhnyCAGE: You couldn't cause you wouldn't be like, what hurt me?

Steve-O: Would that hurt you, Devin?

IGOTTADUMP: If I...

Steve-O: If he was like, I'm seeing it just not with you.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah like I was in the same theater but it

JohhnyCAGE: um Yes, yes, and I'll tell you why, because there were multiple messages in a group chat that Chris was in that was like, hey, I'm seeing this important, this boy wants to come see it.

JohhnyCAGE: Nothing for me, which is fine. You don't have to respond, but yeah, if he yeah in retaliation saw it around the same time in a different theater, would have been like, yeah, dude, that's a felony.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah and then yeah

IGOTTADUMP: No.

JohhnyCAGE: That's a felony offense.

IGOTTADUMP: um Unfortunately, i was just stuck at work because everybody called out.

JohhnyCAGE: just stuck at not being a bad friend. That's what you're stuck doing.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

Steve-O: That's not, hey, hey, that's him making pay.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

Steve-O: That's him. He's got to shoot into the hole in the wall, man.

IGOTTADUMP: There was nobody else, man. Nobody else. nope there There was people trying to buy weed. There's nobody there sell it.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh yeah.

Steve-O: Dude, you know what happens if people don't get weed?

JohhnyCAGE: oh yeah Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: What do you want from me?

JohhnyCAGE: They'll, they'll, they'll bring you a vodka penne and, ah and, and Alfredo.

Steve-O: Wait, what?

IGOTTADUMP: Apparently.

Steve-O: Really? Yeah, you get vodka,

IGOTTADUMP: Apparently. like well yeah that's you know osmandias though wait do you podcast in the dark wait steve you too

JohhnyCAGE: Sidebar. So I'm in a dark room illuminated by three monitors, which is fine. Right.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: I just saw the silhouette of a gigantic fucking mosquito. Just like try to fly by my, my one monitor.

Steve-O: Dude, you're going to die.

JohhnyCAGE: later

Steve-O: i do.

JohhnyCAGE: Um,

Steve-O: I have this room is lit by my monitors, and right now it's a ah ah neon live sign on the wall.

IGOTTADUMP: wow whoa

JohhnyCAGE: So my neon live sign died, and i now I have a um a ah ring light that just isn't actually on right now. And then, because my normal light is, like, it just fritzes.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know what the hell's going on

IGOTTADUMP: i'm i'm in ah I'm in a locked room. white Lights on everywhere. I'm sitting on a couch. um I'm um um'm using a coffee table for my computer.

JohhnyCAGE: You know, I just turned the ring light on.

IGOTTADUMP: And I literally, I have a stack of books and a Phillies popcorn, plastic popcorn bin. And that has the mic on top of it.

Steve-O: Chris, going say something very, very cruel to you. You podcast like you are doing a daytime talk show.

JohhnyCAGE: You're good.

IGOTTADUMP: Very much. i agree 100%.

Steve-O: And I, you know, I kind of am jealous. I think that's a way more comfy way to do it than the way we're doing it.

IGOTTADUMP: i I don't understand why you're doing it in the dark. That's bad for your eyes.

Steve-O: We're doing it. We're doing it like we're hackers. Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: This is a this a personable social experience.

JohhnyCAGE: Also, mike my window, my AC is off right now.

IGOTTADUMP: What the fuck are you doing?

JohhnyCAGE: I'm invested here.

Steve-O: My AC's on.

JohhnyCAGE: It's so loud, dude.

Steve-O: My AC's on, man.

IGOTTADUMP: Is it really?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: My AC's on.

JohhnyCAGE: Well, my I have a window unit and I'm like two feet away.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: You know what? for This is for the listeners, by the way. This is what I'm hiding you from.

IGOTTADUMP: turned it on now Oh, now!

JohhnyCAGE: That's pretty bad, right?

IGOTTADUMP: god, I can't believe it it's the taker!

JohhnyCAGE: like Like, you can hear that, right?

IGOTTADUMP: No?

Steve-O: Not really, no.

JohhnyCAGE: Really? Fucking

Steve-O: No, that doesn't pick up, Devin.

IGOTTADUMP: No!

JohhnyCAGE: Awesome, dude. Hey, win-win for me.

IGOTTADUMP: What the fuck are you been doing?

Steve-O: Devin's like, this is this is what I've been protecting you guys from.

IGOTTADUMP: It's nothing!

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, it's so loud right next to me, but hey, hey.

Steve-O: ah Silence.

IGOTTADUMP: i literally, i have an air purifier on right now.

JohhnyCAGE: What's

JohhnyCAGE: I have the pop filter on. That's what's protecting now all all your ears right now. That's why. Well, listen.

IGOTTADUMP: wait wait wait guys be quiet be quiet let me i for one let me i fucking hear i hear nothing i hear nothing

Steve-O: I hear it slightly. I hear it slightly, but it it definitely...

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, fuck you. ah

Steve-O: heni he needs to talk He needs to talk for his his noise gate to go up.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, oh no.

IGOTTADUMP: oh oh oh okay i kind of hear but no no but like it's not it's white noise yeah

Steve-O: It's not intrusive.

JohhnyCAGE: It's not brutal. It's not brutal. Also, I'll turn the mic away a little bit and that way hopefully I can.

IGOTTADUMP: it's kind of a ringing, like a very slight ringing, but like, it's not anything perceptible.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: It's like the sound that sometimes your like router makes. And you're like, what the fuck is that noise? And then you put your ear near your router and you're like it's my motherfucking modem?

JohhnyCAGE: All right.

Steve-O: What?

JohhnyCAGE: It's my motherfucking mode.

Steve-O: Why does this make a noise?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Well, listen, let me, know let's get back.

IGOTTADUMP: I think you guys should, should be a little more comfortable when you, when you podcast, that's all I'm saying.

JohhnyCAGE: Let's get back to the point at hand here. I saw obsession. and I am obsessed with obsession.

Steve-O: Oh my god.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh,

JohhnyCAGE: um

Steve-O: Wow.

JohhnyCAGE: I actually pardon pardon the hilarious pun, but um this might be the best movie i've seen all year. it's It's up there with ah Bone Temple.

IGOTTADUMP: Bone bone. All right.

JohhnyCAGE: It's the best horror film I've seen since Hereditary. I don't even think it's close.

IGOTTADUMP: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: it's I was getting the same vibes from Hereditary.

Steve-O: Wow.

JohhnyCAGE: The same creepy, right?

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: And the... Oh my god. I can't gush about this movie enough. The premise is so fucking basic. It's so basic, bitch.

IGOTTADUMP: Sure is.

JohhnyCAGE: But it is so well done. So unique in a lot of ways and played so goddamn well by the, the lead actress in this movie.

JohhnyCAGE: Everybody's really good in it. Um, but she a is stand, she's like Tony Collette level standout, uh, in this to, to kind of keep making the comparison.

IGOTTADUMP: Or Mia Goff and Pearl like really carried the film.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah. Honestly. But I think honestly, she's better than me at Gotham.

IGOTTADUMP: Mmm.

JohhnyCAGE: Um, Indy Navarette. Apologies if I'm mispronouncing that. The only thing she's been in that I would have, I've never even seen it, but she was in Adventures as Superman a lot.

JohhnyCAGE: the her Superman and Lois. She was in like 50 episodes of that that show as like, I guess, the student friend of one of the kids. So I don't know. I didn't really know her too well. And I had come into this, one, hearing how good it was.

JohhnyCAGE: to being aware of that and also hearing how great this actress was. And i was kind of ready to be a little disappointed and I am thrilled to announce that I was not and I was actually more impressed than I thought I was going to be.

IGOTTADUMP: interesting

JohhnyCAGE: It has a jump scare that I've never been gotten so bad by the jump scare. Um, and I think there's a unique, I, I, the popcorn was, I actually got to the theater really early.

IGOTTADUMP: Do you fart?

Steve-O: Did you have popcorn and did you fling it?

JohhnyCAGE: Shocker. Um, so I was like mostly done with popcorn. the popcorn was just chilling next to me, but I, I was, I was watching it with Borden and, uh, I grabbed his arm.

JohhnyCAGE: I was so shocked.

IGOTTADUMP: Nice.

JohhnyCAGE: I like, Oh Jesus Christ. And I like gripped that gripped, but I like pushed on him to get away from,

Steve-O: You like held him slightly.

IGOTTADUMP: Do I hear wedding bells?

Steve-O: yeah maybe.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, to get away from the nightmare that was happening on the screen.

IGOTTADUMP: Do I hear wedding bells?

JohhnyCAGE: um this is This is like hereditary. Like, I think you should make a point to see this.

IGOTTADUMP: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: And i saw it I saw it Friday night. The theater was about 80% filled. La Young Folk. And it was it was a little dicey.

IGOTTADUMP: ah Well, its it is doing it's doing quite well.

JohhnyCAGE: A little dicey. Yeah, no.

IGOTTADUMP: And it's it's a very small budget.

JohhnyCAGE: it was like $750,000 made like 15 million.

IGOTTADUMP: It's shithouse indie.

Steve-O: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: Um, and so the crowd was, it was a little dicey. I'm not going to lie, but again, I always say this, I think there's two types of movies that are the most beneficial to see in a crowded theater. And that's act that's a comedy and horror films.

JohhnyCAGE: Um,

IGOTTADUMP: Yep. yep

JohhnyCAGE: this, I think my, my experience greatly benefited from that.

IGOTTADUMP: yep

JohhnyCAGE: And much like my hereditary story is like, you know, there's some goofy, there's some goofy, there's some chatter. And then like, once the movie kind of gets going and it's not like in obsession, there wasn't like this crazy big moment that shut everybody up like hereditary.

JohhnyCAGE: um But it was just like the movie kind of started to demand your attention by how, creepy and uncomfortable and skin crawlingly good.

JohhnyCAGE: It was, um, yeah, dude, I was, uh, I was so, so, so happy after I out of this theater. And the funny thing is, is I'm somewhat aware of the writer, director and editor, ah Curry Barker, cause he's, he's like one of those like YouTube Tik TOK, like comedy skit guys.

JohhnyCAGE: And the first time I heard about him, like really, was, oh, you know that guy you've seen on TikTok shorts? Yeah, he just signed $14 million dollars deal, which is like a landmark deal, with a twenty four to remake and a do a reimagining of Texas Chainsaw Massacre based off of this movie that showed.

IGOTTADUMP: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: So was like, what? Okay, like a little odd, right? i was like, the guy that does TikToks, like that guy?

IGOTTADUMP: Well, I got to admit, it is good timing to have another Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Steve-O: This is the meta.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, and and it was it was based because they...

IGOTTADUMP: Like, I feel like the days weren't really prepared and weren't the right time for Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: But I think nowadays, yeah, no, you need to hurt some kids.

JohhnyCAGE: We might be ready. And, like, listen, I mean, just taking that taking that out of it, he got that because this showed so well like, TIFF and all the the film ah shows and all that, like, a year ago.

JohhnyCAGE: And everybody was talking about this, but, again, I really struggled with, like... Dude, it's so basic. It's such like a basic fucking monkey Paul's thing.

IGOTTADUMP: Sure is. we've We've all seen the Love Potion film.

JohhnyCAGE: But dude.

IGOTTADUMP: I've i've seen this entails in Tales from the Crypt like five times.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: a

JohhnyCAGE: This is easily the best version of it ever. i And I'm probably overselling i'm overselling it probably for you guys.

IGOTTADUMP: I don't know. Have you seen Tales from the

JohhnyCAGE: But like this is truly, like I really think you should carve out time and go see this movie. Because this movie fucking rocks. And I watched a lot of stuff these last few weeks.

Steve-O: You're saying ah tick a A24 brought in a tick tock guy.

JohhnyCAGE: And I was like, I don't know what I'm going to talk about. Nah, dude. This is...

Steve-O: he made a banger.

JohhnyCAGE: Well, this is Blumhouse, but

IGOTTADUMP: It's the kid that does the floss dance, right?

Steve-O: This is a warm house.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know. He's a really – listen, again, I can't glaze this guy enough, but he's a weird-looking guy.

IGOTTADUMP: Same kid, right?

Steve-O: This is interesting, though, because it seems like this might be the new meta where it's like people coming from like, you know, TikTok, YouTube, because, you know, this week, later this week, we're getting ah the back rooms.

JohhnyCAGE: He's a funny-looking dude.

JohhnyCAGE: Nah, dude, dude, it's a great – they're on a great run, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Steve, I think you're you're we're thinking back rooms.

Steve-O: Yeah, we're getting like, it's genuinely interesting seeing this.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Listen, I hate to say it, but like, and it's not fair. It's not super fair to compare, but I'm like, our back rooms ain't going to be good as good as this movie.

IGOTTADUMP: kind of It's a hard act to follow. act to follow. Hard act to follow.

JohhnyCAGE: There's no fucking way, dude. Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: hard hard act to follow

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: okay

JohhnyCAGE: I, yeah, no, I absolutely love this movie. And and again, a lot of it is based off of, a the main actress who plays Nikki, her performance is an all timer.

JohhnyCAGE: um I don't know. I just didn't think it'd be as creepy, but no, it's it's absolutely terrifying. So,

Steve-O: Hell yeah. Awesome.

JohhnyCAGE: o

Steve-O: So Mary, that what you're saying?

JohhnyCAGE: yeah, ah dude, this is, we've i we've already we've been married for 10 years at this point.

Steve-O: Oh, okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I've grown old and died with this movie.

Steve-O: Damn.

JohhnyCAGE: We held hands as we both expired.

IGOTTADUMP: ah yeah I have to admit, Devin, I think I will say i have some resonance in the sense that how much I love the the Bone Temple.

JohhnyCAGE: Because I was obsessed.

IGOTTADUMP: And you you and i both loved it quite a bit.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah. I rewatched the Bone Temple a few weeks ago.

IGOTTADUMP: I thought that was wonderful. It's wonderful.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: um Yeah, so I, you know.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't want to say this, like, I won't be like, this blows Bone Temple out of the water, but like,

IGOTTADUMP: Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. sure sure it's it's It's up there.

JohhnyCAGE: To me, it's like, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: It's on art.

JohhnyCAGE: No, it's it's it might be better. I might like it more than Bone Temptor.

IGOTTADUMP: It might be better. Okay, right.

JohhnyCAGE: And to me, that's I still haven't seen Sheep Detectives, which I legitimately hear is very, very good.

IGOTTADUMP: That did look good. and did look good Writer of ah ah The Last of Us.

JohhnyCAGE: um But...

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. yeah but

IGOTTADUMP: Sheep detectives.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Craig Mazin.

JohhnyCAGE: Ew. Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: So Devin, you've been also watching some television, correct?

JohhnyCAGE: dude. What haven't I been?

IGOTTADUMP: Unless you have more movies up your butt that you gotta crap out.

JohhnyCAGE: Ah, dude. Oh, or well, okay. I'll be, I'll be as quick as I seemingly can be here. Um, I watched the chainsaw man, Reza arc, um, the anime film, uh, very good.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh boy. Here we go. Here we go.

JohhnyCAGE: I do think chainsaw man is worth your time. Uh, please watch it.

IGOTTADUMP: Here we go. Here we go.

JohhnyCAGE: Uh, I watched mortal combat too, which was fun.

IGOTTADUMP: Hey-hoo!

JohhnyCAGE: lot of fun. Um, not, you know, not going to say it's great. Um, but it's, it's who is my boy, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Who was your boy in it? Who was your boy in Mortal Kombat? Or girl? Who was your POC? Partner in crime.

JohhnyCAGE: I think Katana Katana is, is, is like the standout.

IGOTTADUMP: P-I-C. Excuse me.

JohhnyCAGE: Um, Carl Urban is frankly not good in this movie.

IGOTTADUMP: A boy.

JohhnyCAGE: Um, he plays, You know, the the timeline ah of Mortal Kombat, I'm not going to say is locked in, but he plays washed up 80s action hero Johnny Cage in this movie that assumingly takes place sometime in the 2020s.

JohhnyCAGE: That puts Johnny Cage in his late 50s. And um I just I think he's miscast. I think they should have gone younger.

JohhnyCAGE: um And Carl Irving just was not willing at all to to rise above the the material he was given, unfortunately.

Steve-O: Wait.

Steve-O: Wait, he's in an 80s guy?

IGOTTADUMP: Hello, Ewey.

Steve-O: he's He's supposed to be like an 80s action guy.

JohhnyCAGE: Like, Johnny Cage plays like an like a washed-up 80s action star. Like, yeah. And then, you know, which puts him at like 58 or something in in today.

JohhnyCAGE: and you know, he's they see him and he's at fucking Comic-Cons and, you know...

IGOTTADUMP: So basically, Jean-Claude Van Damme.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, but like now.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.

JohhnyCAGE: And it's just. Yeah, man. He's not good to to be completely blunt. um And the plot's like, who cares? Kind of like literally they're like, who cares? Like, oh, Kano standout character, Kano.

JohhnyCAGE: Let's just bring him back. And there's even lo

IGOTTADUMP: um Devin, I believe it's pronounced Cano.

JohhnyCAGE: Kano, yeah, sorry. no but ah So there's even lore that like you can bring people back from the dead and they come back as revenants in the movie. And they're like, how come Kano's not a revenant?

JohhnyCAGE: You brought him back to life. And he's like, he doesn't have enough soul to even be a revenant or something. And it's just an excuse to have Kano back.

IGOTTADUMP: What? He's probably one of the most soulful singers of all of the Mortal Kombat characters.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah.

Steve-O: Wait, hold on. They're just like, they bring people back in Mortal Kombat?

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, because Liu Kang, I'm sorry, Kung Lao, who famously, Steve, dies in the first one. he's ah He comes back as a revenant and they have a little dust up, him and Liu Kang.

Steve-O: Are Revenants evil? like what's What's their deal?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah. So ah in the game, like in the modern games, it's an excuse to bring back dead characters. And they're just called like the Revenant form, which is just kind of like an evil undead version of.

JohhnyCAGE: You know, the character, ah because Quan Chi brings them back to life. And it's like, OK, and it's a well, if you're if you're even remotely familiar with the story of the the since like mk10 essentially uh so like the last three mortal combat games like you've seen it um and i'd say that fight is probably the best fight but i think the most mortal combat fight is the um is the sonia blade uh sindel fight uh yes

IGOTTADUMP: Hey, Devin. Can I pitch you my idea for a comic movie?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, sure, Chris. You seem really invested in this, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: So, ah story opens up on a man. His name is Lou Kanger. um

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: He's a

JohhnyCAGE: This sounds like you slammed this in chat GPT right before this happened.

IGOTTADUMP: a high stakes A high stakes broker. um And he always carries his phone on him. And there's a scene where he's like in a duel and he whips his phone out faster. And he never showed up for his kids' baseball game.

IGOTTADUMP: And then, yeah, Luke Hanger.

JohhnyCAGE: Luke Hanger.

IGOTTADUMP: And then his kids, they get kidnapped by ah Steve Sung. Captain, you know, he takes them, kidnaps them.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: He takes him the island and he's like, you know, Steve's like, I know it's in there, Kang. I know you got it in there. And he keeps prodding them. And then, you know, all the characters get together and they find out that there's, he's always been Liu Kang.

IGOTTADUMP: And he comes out at the end and he fights Shang Tsung.

JohhnyCAGE: So that's your idea?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

Steve-O: Chris?

JohhnyCAGE: That's not Chris. Sorry. that's the dance What a waste of my fucking minute that was.

IGOTTADUMP: What?

Steve-O: Chris?

IGOTTADUMP: What is it?

Steve-O: That's...

IGOTTADUMP: what

Steve-O: Chris, that's the plot to the movie Hook.

IGOTTADUMP: What are you talking about?

Steve-O: That is the plot of the movie

IGOTTADUMP: what the fuck? I have no idea.

Steve-O: Is there a part where he meets the other Mortal Kombat characters and then one of them grabs him by the cheeks and he goes, there he is.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. And Johnny Cage pulls his cheeks off and he says, there there's blue cake.

JohhnyCAGE: There you are, Liu Kang.

Steve-O: There's Liu Kang. he

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, what does, ah is is there a Kufio character who says, you can't can it fly, you can't fight?

IGOTTADUMP: It's Kano. It's Kano.

Steve-O: is.

IGOTTADUMP: it's Well, Kano is the cool character in the gang of chill children.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it's

IGOTTADUMP: I mean, adults.

Steve-O: the lost mortal combat boys.

IGOTTADUMP: um Yeah. What? No, wait. Yeah,

JohhnyCAGE: the lost The Lost Combatants with a K.

IGOTTADUMP: that's good. That's good.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, there it is.

IGOTTADUMP: That's really man.

JohhnyCAGE: There it is. Thank you.

IGOTTADUMP: that's really good man

JohhnyCAGE: yeah

Steve-O: You know what?

JohhnyCAGE: oh man.

Steve-O: I like this, Chris.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, no.

Steve-O: I'm in.

JohhnyCAGE: ah Yeah. yeah it's a ah Also, I've kind of been on a weird 90s kick. So I watched um the movie Go. which was odd because I, I didn't think I've ever seen go.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh,

JohhnyCAGE: And then I vividly remembered the last act of go.

IGOTTADUMP: that's a good movie.

JohhnyCAGE: And I was like, Oh, okay. It goes in quite a good, goes a good movie to a point where you, I looked up all of the actors and I'm like, why did none of them have any careers with the exception of Katie Holmes and Timothy Oliphant?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Nobody else in there really had a career.

IGOTTADUMP: I think, um, what's her name? Sarah Pauly. She, she became a director.

JohhnyCAGE: Uh, that makes sense.

IGOTTADUMP: Like an indie director.

JohhnyCAGE: That makes sense. Yeah. Uh, watch the, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: But yeah, you're kind of right, man. You're kind of right. That's very true.

JohhnyCAGE: Uh, watched another movie to die for Nicole Kidman nineties movie. Um, yeah yeah, yeah, dude, I was in a, and then, uh, I had a tummy ache and I watched red Dawn and the red Dawn remake back to back.

IGOTTADUMP: Nice, dude. I haven't seen that in a minute.

Steve-O: Hmm. me

JohhnyCAGE: Both not very good.

IGOTTADUMP: Not a Red Dawn. Not a Red Dawn guy.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, ah red dog I will say Red Dawn was slightly more interesting than that I gave it credit for. And the remake really is just terrible.

IGOTTADUMP: It's very, very overdramatic, the first one.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah Yeah, it is, but I also wasn't expecting it to be even remotely dramatic. I just thought it was going to be dumb. And i was like, oh, okay. And then to see the remake not even attempt to go anywhere near that because it's a PG-13 movie.

IGOTTADUMP: There's no depth, right?

JohhnyCAGE: Terrible. um And then ah to and I saw Punisher One Last Kill, finished Daredevil. ah And yeah, we can talk about that.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh yeah, so did I. We can talk about that too. Steve, did you finish Daredevil?

JohhnyCAGE: And then

IGOTTADUMP: Are you watching it?

Steve-O: No, kind of farted out after everybody was kind of like, this sucks.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. I agree.

Steve-O: I was like, why am i Why am I putting forth?

JohhnyCAGE: I wouldn't say it sucked, um but it was fine, you know?

IGOTTADUMP: i i There was one great moment in the world.

JohhnyCAGE: Wait, is it is it when Kingpin freaks out on a bunch of January 6th, basically?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. Of course. Of course, dude. That was awesome.

JohhnyCAGE: It kind of makes the season. I'm not going to...

IGOTTADUMP: I know. It's a little bit, right? Like, that whole sequence is quite good.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. But i was like I was like, yeah, this is like if Kingpin was the security on January 6th. And he just fucking kills 45 people.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

IGOTTADUMP: it it to be To be real with you, it was like, I was so over it. And I was like, it was so silly that it kind of made me like, oh, yeah, it brought me back in But I think in a bad way, i don't think that's a good thing.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I mean, and it it kind of lead it ends exactly how you think it's going end, too. Like, if you've been watching.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: um Chris, you didn't see Last Kill there, right? One Last Kill.

IGOTTADUMP: No, I did not. i was I was, you know, like I said, I i kind of felt like Daredevil put a bad taste in my mouth.

JohhnyCAGE: I will say, yeah. One Last Kill very much feels like a pilot, even though we've already had two seasons of Punisher show.

IGOTTADUMP: So wasn't really...

JohhnyCAGE: um it's ah It's a fairly intense episode, but it's just like... an episode of of the Punisher where they kind of do the raid, but it's not nearly as good.

JohhnyCAGE: So it's and there's one sequence which you may have seen online um where it turns into a PS3 game um and it's.

Steve-O: Yeah, that thing's been all over the internet.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, and it's like i like I will say, like, even watching it, I was like, what the fuck was that? Like audibly by myself, i was like, whoa. but They run out of money.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: But then it's it's it's over. And then there's nothing like that ever you know again. So it's totally overblown, but it's it's there.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm not going to pretend it's not. And then um what I thought was going to be the best thing I watched these last few weeks was the episode of the bear, the Gary episode, the surprise episode they dropped.

JohhnyCAGE: Did you guys see this?

IGOTTADUMP: I did not.

JohhnyCAGE: It's very good.

Steve-O: It's very good.

JohhnyCAGE: It's very good.

IGOTTADUMP: ah Oh, see what you did there.

JohhnyCAGE: Funny enough, the the main character in Obsession's name is Bear. Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: i would, though, since you brought the bear, I would direct you guys to the discord where I put up five ideas for shows that are better than the bear and the pit about occupations.

IGOTTADUMP: So just check it out if you ever get a chance.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: oga okay

Steve-O: Real quick, real quick.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. it's

Steve-O: We'll just take a peek in there.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah. oh yeah sure If you want.

Steve-O: Here we go. ah So Chris suggested the butt. A deep penetrating look at the drama behind being a proctologist. The bozo.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: How sad is it to be a clown nowadays? A dramatic retelling of the story of Aaron Rodgers.

JohhnyCAGE: Wait.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh my God. Is there a hook that the guy's really good though?

Steve-O: No, there's no show called The Hook.

JohhnyCAGE: zoom No, no. I'm saying is the hook of these shows like that?

Steve-O: Could do it about fishermen. It's

JohhnyCAGE: Like the bozo, is he like the a crazy good book clown?

Steve-O: like professions.

Steve-O: Nah, just a job. Just a nine to five.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. It's just a guy doing a job.

IGOTTADUMP: Actually, it's it's about Aaron Rodgers. It's about Aaron Rodgers.

Steve-O: About Aaron Rodgers. That one's about Aaron Rodgers. ah The brown janitors got it rough. But what about a janitor at explosive diarrhea high? Hot and runny drama ensues.

JohhnyCAGE: Ew.

IGOTTADUMP: What?

JohhnyCAGE: Fucking foul, bro.

IGOTTADUMP: What? a No, no.

JohhnyCAGE: it's Disgusting, bro.

Steve-O: Hold on.

IGOTTADUMP: no

Steve-O: If that one doesn't sell you, how about this one? The blow. A glass blower with asthma?

JohhnyCAGE: See, this is what I like because there's drama and also you think it's about cocaine, but it's not.

Steve-O: What an inspirational story.

IGOTTADUMP: oh

Steve-O: The fifth one The fifth one is the Bounce.

IGOTTADUMP: was the next one.

Steve-O: How high is too high for a drug-dealing trampolinist?

IGOTTADUMP: I think those are all better.

JohhnyCAGE: Not too bad.

IGOTTADUMP: I think those are all better than those shows.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, not too bad.

Steve-O: I mean, that's the thing.

JohhnyCAGE: um

Steve-O: You hear the bear and your brain goes.

IGOTTADUMP: I mean, a thousand different directions than what I was got.

Steve-O: In my head, I thought the bear was a show about it a bear.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: also think this I also think this is a better joke in season one when we all didn't know, but now it's a kind of...

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: I can't help it, Devin.

JohhnyCAGE: This feels kind of tacky.

Steve-O: Why didn't they just call it Chef Boyard Chicago?

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, God.

Steve-O: Or Escarcago?

IGOTTADUMP: You know, you know i will tell you, I got a little scene from the butt that I was thinking about.

Steve-O: Yeah, lay it on the butt.

JohhnyCAGE: The butt or the putt?

IGOTTADUMP: No, the butt.

Steve-O: The putt is...

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, I was looking at Stanton's top five.

IGOTTADUMP: i

JohhnyCAGE: I keep forgetting this section exists, by the way.

IGOTTADUMP: he didn't He didn't write any scenes, but I had a scene specifically for the butt. So it was an a doctor's office, Dr. Bukowski.

IGOTTADUMP: He's got his patient with his butt in front of him.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: He's got like five patients all lined up, all butts. And he's just, he just starts screaming. He's like, ah, I hate asses.

IGOTTADUMP: That's it.

Steve-O: Whoa.

IGOTTADUMP: That's it.

Steve-O: You know what, dude, proctologist that hates butts?

JohhnyCAGE: I think I kind of, I kind of like the idea that he, his mentor was just really intense about butts.

IGOTTADUMP: Of course.

JohhnyCAGE: So now he's like, now he hates butts, but he's also still, he's the, he's like, I lost friendships over this because I had to be the best butt man.

IGOTTADUMP: Do you think you know anything about asses? I know everything about asses. I will destroy you.

IGOTTADUMP: I am the butt man. You will never be the butt man.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: Oh, the only reason he became a proctologist was for the license plate.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: Butt man.

Steve-O: ass man, but man, you tell me, man.

IGOTTADUMP: Ass man.

JohhnyCAGE: Well, listen, ah to get out of this peak of comedy that we're discussing, I will say it is very interesting because I watched the bear episode right before or like a day before I watched the Punisher episode and both focus on um John Bernthal.

IGOTTADUMP: Anus cart. um

IGOTTADUMP: Ahem.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh yeah. Look that.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, actually, John Bernthal and um Evan Ross. Yeah, the guy who plays um

IGOTTADUMP: The thing on the bear.

JohhnyCAGE: a The Thing, yeah, and Richie. I think they wrote this episode because it just kind of came out. It's kind of a surprise episode. um It was very good, though.

JohhnyCAGE: It was very, very good. And um also, i in terms of watching, i'm i'm started Devil May Cry Season 2.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm digging it. It's just I've watched so much. I've kind of like I'm taking my time with this one.

IGOTTADUMP: Devin, you've danced around the boys. You want to talk about the boys?

JohhnyCAGE: and Well, I was... i was but I've been watching The Boys.

IGOTTADUMP: Are you saving that for last?

JohhnyCAGE: No, I've just been... like Honestly, I forgot it was on my list. My list was very long.

Steve-O: Damn, it sounds like you're a little lukewarm.

JohhnyCAGE: It's on here, I just...

Steve-O: warm moment

IGOTTADUMP: You know what, Devin? I don't blame you. It's it's it's it's not it's not the best season of the boys.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: It's like middle-of-the-road season, you know?

IGOTTADUMP: Yes. Yes.

JohhnyCAGE: i don't think it's terrible.

IGOTTADUMP: I would agree. I think everything with The Deep is still wonderful, though.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it's very... Although, I was kind of like... I mean, listen, we have one left, right? So, like, he's there's going to be something. But I did think, like, all right, man.

JohhnyCAGE: This is pretty – this is pathetic even for you.

IGOTTADUMP: He's extremely pathetic this season.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, which is – well, it's because you see him. He makes it he makes a decision where he kind of goes off in the episode –

IGOTTADUMP: shes Did you see the Hammerhead scene?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying like he makes a decision in the previous episode where he goes off and then he and then he kind of just shrinks back again.

IGOTTADUMP: They had a hammerhead shark voiced by Samuel Jackson in the episode, and he was yelling at the deep.

JohhnyCAGE: And you're like

IGOTTADUMP: He was like, you step a toe in the water, you're dead, motherfucker.

JohhnyCAGE: you're like...

IGOTTADUMP: That was pretty funny.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, and then later there's ah there's an old man drowning and they're like, D.D., please save him. And he just runs away and it's like...

IGOTTADUMP: That's pretty great, dude.

JohhnyCAGE: Like, okay. All right. All right. All right. No, it's it's it's been good. um I do think it's a bit odd because, ah Chris, you didn't watch any of Gen V, did you?

IGOTTADUMP: Not at all. I know what they were trying to do.

JohhnyCAGE: The spinoff show? No. Yeah, it's kind of funny because, like, I watched the first season, didn't watch the second. Not because I didn't like season one. It just kind of... you only got so many so many hours in a day, man.

JohhnyCAGE: um And then so the show got canceled, and then the main character of Gen V does a little cameo in this. And I'm like, this is either it for that character, or she's going to do something in the next episode.

IGOTTADUMP: Well, they got a few spinoffs coming after this show.

JohhnyCAGE: They do, they do. But I mean, like, I think that plot is...

IGOTTADUMP: Dead.

JohhnyCAGE: probably done but so i don't know it could kind of come off as a big waste or not i do think it's gonna come into play in this next episode

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, this is going to be their Game of Thrones world. Like, I don't think of the Rings is working out too well. So this is going to be their world building.

JohhnyCAGE: oh yeah no you're right you're right but i know that um i do you know what i do miss So everybody's really bummed out because like the next episode is just... It's another hour-long episode.

JohhnyCAGE: It's not crazy. um I really miss the two-part season slash series finales that kind of just play back-to-back, and it's like one big crazy ah like story.

JohhnyCAGE: um I remember a lot of shows in the 2000s would do that, and that we were just like, oh, the final... you know, the the final two episodes are back to back and then they just go and then you sit there for two hours are changing and change and then you just watch it.

Steve-O: It was a special event.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: Everybody kind of gathered around and did that.

JohhnyCAGE: And yeah, like i I remember they did it for Lost, i'm pretty sure, and some other things.

Steve-O: Mm hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: And like what I don't understand is like you don't need to do two episodes, but you come on, ye can you can fuck. If it's the last episode of the show, come on.

JohhnyCAGE: find some more room. You know what I mean? I don't quite get it unless there's some sort of contractual reason why it's, it's kind of a bummer to be honest.

Steve-O: Go big mode.

JohhnyCAGE: Cause when stranger things did it, it was great. Like truly it only benefited.

Steve-O: That was like two, three hours, right?

IGOTTADUMP: And it's crazy too, because it's the company that they're attached to is one of the most richest countries, companies rather.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Like it only benefits, it only benefits those, those episodes and those shows when they do that. So yeah, Without being that guy, um that is something I am kind of on their side on, where I'm like, it's kind of lame that the final episode of this series is just like a regular ho-hum, like, hour, two-minute type episode.

IGOTTADUMP: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: So, it, it yeah.

Steve-O: It doesn't feel special when it's the same length.

IGOTTADUMP: No.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah. And again, that even let you like have that first episode be the buildup and then it fucking ends and then you go right into the, the big finale.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, release them both at the same time, really.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, dude. But like, they're just like, no, cause this episode kind of just ho-hum ends.

IGOTTADUMP: Second to last to last.

JohhnyCAGE: Not ho-hum. I don't want to say that. A big thing happens in this penultimate episode.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, sure.

JohhnyCAGE: um

IGOTTADUMP: But I honestly did not really care too much.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same. name

IGOTTADUMP: That's the unfortunate thing. Because there are characters I just don't care about on this show.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Also, I think that's just like this is I guess there's some shade in this, but I don't think I really respect you if The Boys is your favorite show.

IGOTTADUMP: Yes.

JohhnyCAGE: Like, it's a good show. I like it. I'll watch it. I'll make time to watch it. But if I'm like, yo, The Boys right now is my favorite show of all time, bro.

JohhnyCAGE: Like, no, I don't want to know you.

IGOTTADUMP: it's it's It's low, very low hanging fruit satire nowadays.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it's just...

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: and it's And that's not to say it's not good. It's not to say it's it is funny.

IGOTTADUMP: It's funny. It's definitely funny.

JohhnyCAGE: It's entertaining.

IGOTTADUMP: Like that that thing with the Homelander, like fuck me in the ass, that's going to be a meme soon.

JohhnyCAGE: and it's it's And it can even be you know heartfelt at times.

IGOTTADUMP: You know what mean?

JohhnyCAGE: But at the same time, I think ah to be that guy, to to put my snob hat fully on, there's a ceiling. And if you're like, this is it, I kind of, I question some your tastes, if that's your favorite fucking show.

JohhnyCAGE: So maybe because it's not mine, that's why I'm letting so many things go.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: but Which is why I think Game of Thrones got so much shit, because it was a lot of people's favorite show of all time, or of the year, and things like that.

JohhnyCAGE: This, to me, just it's just... Pretty good. Definitely above average, but, you know, go what are you going to do?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: So.

IGOTTADUMP: I do want to carve out a little bit time to talk about Absolute Batman.

JohhnyCAGE: No, please.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: what's What's going on?

JohhnyCAGE: I'm probably one or two behind. i don't maybe one.

IGOTTADUMP: Okay. I'm not going to spoil too much, but they introduced three characters, new characters. Actually, more than three, really. um Two new characters in a group.

IGOTTADUMP: of characters to the universe. And those characters are Scarecrow, Deathstroke, and Every Robin.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Every Robin.

IGOTTADUMP: have

Steve-O: Just all at once.

IGOTTADUMP: Yep. All at once. Jason Todd, Dick Grayson,

JohhnyCAGE: Can I, can I, is it a spoiler for me to ask, are they Robin or are they just like Tim Drake?

IGOTTADUMP: The Robins.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. Okay. So that they're the, yeah, it's not just like, oh this character, Tim Drake that, you know, becomes Robin.

IGOTTADUMP: So it's Tim Drake, Jason Todd, Dick Grayson,

JohhnyCAGE: It's like, no, we're,

IGOTTADUMP: and they they They have

JohhnyCAGE: Yes. Yes, sir.

Steve-O: Oh, shit.

JohhnyCAGE: Hell yeah. Dude, Chris, you know my rules. You know my rules.

IGOTTADUMP: It's so fucking cool, dude.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm in.

IGOTTADUMP: the leader is Deathstroke. And every part every part of him is fake.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh. He has like a metal arm or something, right? He's got like a... that's sick.

IGOTTADUMP: he There's a scene where he's literally putting on his arms, his legs, his face, his mustache, his nose, his ears.

Steve-O: Duh.

JohhnyCAGE: Jesus.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. He's just like a husk of a thing. And Scarecrow.

JohhnyCAGE: Hell yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh my

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I've seen I've seen some pictures. He's a little creep, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Got buttons for eyes. First appearance, walking out of a cornfield.

JohhnyCAGE: Mm hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: Duh, right?

IGOTTADUMP: Duh.

JohhnyCAGE: Duh.

IGOTTADUMP: Duh. Fucking duh.

Steve-O: ah

IGOTTADUMP: And it's not fear. It's dread. And it's it's anger based.

Steve-O: Oh.

IGOTTADUMP: So it's it's all ah like turning things against each... Turning people against each other with a lot of social media is involved.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: um And they kill...

JohhnyCAGE: Is it just him liking tweets and then people go, I hate this man.

IGOTTADUMP: He's making people doom scroll, basically.

JohhnyCAGE: I thought, oh, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: ah Yeah, he crashed a plane into a tractor in this first scene.

JohhnyCAGE: He just retweets problematic shit. Of

JohhnyCAGE: course.

IGOTTADUMP: That's, yeah, that was fucking rad as shit. um And then they kill somebody off. And it's just, it's some some somebody big. And you're like, what?

IGOTTADUMP: What?

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: What? I read that and said that. And then they showed the scarecrow laughing. Oh, man, that was rough. That was rough that's scary. This book, scary as shit.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Scary as shit.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, I would, um you know, I say it and i I have it. I just can't remember the name of it. But Scott Snyder did a, he did an original horror comic and it was quite good.

JohhnyCAGE: And of course I can't for the fucking life of me remember what it's called.

IGOTTADUMP: It's so insidious.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: there is There's a shot he has of Joker, you know, but his Joker now. That one, it's it's just... thing I think about it still.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: The last episode was wonderful. Or last episode. Last issue was really wonderful. Really, really wonderful.

JohhnyCAGE: ah The book I was talking about is Severed, by the way.

IGOTTADUMP: I gotta read that.

JohhnyCAGE: ah Dark period accurate carve comic set in 1916 about a boy who runs away from home.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: And then I won't spoil the rest, but it was quite good. It's kind of like a a one and done type book. I have it hardback, baby, because I'm umm a real one.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm a real deal.

Steve-O: Real deal.

JohhnyCAGE: ah I do have some video game updates, but Steve, have you been ah have you been watching anything?

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, I got video game.

Steve-O: No.

IGOTTADUMP: We all got video games.

Steve-O: Um, I haven't really had a chance to watch anything recently.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, yes, Steve. Watch.

Steve-O: I've been playing stuff though.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, me too.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Me too.

JohhnyCAGE: Why don't you start off the... What have you been playing?

Steve-O: So, um, i e played, ah starting this weekend have been playing Forza Horizon six, which just came out. Um,

JohhnyCAGE: I hear good things.

IGOTTADUMP: Farts. Farts.

Steve-O: You know, it is it is a very good game. um If you like those games, I've always enjoyed those games, so I'm a fan. But it is very much a loose sim racer.

Steve-O: If you're not into like simulation racers, it's probably not going to be your bag still.

JohhnyCAGE: You know...

JohhnyCAGE: I think somebody said like i was listening a podcast and this guy was like. Forza Horizon is like the best racing game I've ever played where I don't care about how good it is, you know, in the sense of like.

JohhnyCAGE: If this was your first ever racing game you've ever played, you would probably be blown away. But he's like, I played all the Forza Horizon games. He's like, it's just like a known. It's almost sad because it's like they're tens, but it's like, yeah, they're all fucking tens.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: They're all great.

Steve-O: It's it's the thing is, if you have played one of the other Forza Horizon games, it's just that in Japan.

JohhnyCAGE: They're all Marys.

JohhnyCAGE: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's good.

Steve-O: um

JohhnyCAGE: I can't. When I heard that, I was like, it's kind of reminds me of like the Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2 to Spider-Man 1. You're like, it's great. But it's just like, yeah, I thought it was gonna be great.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: And it was great. It doesn't really break your brain.

Steve-O: hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: Great. But yeah.

Steve-O: It scratches that itch if you want to play a new one of those. um A lot of the um event races are super cool. There's one where it's you against a mech.

Steve-O: And it's the mech is smashing through shit and you're like racing it.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I saw, I saw that one.

Steve-O: And it's it it's very cinematic. And those are very cool races. I'm having a lot of fun with it.

JohhnyCAGE: Like showcase races or something. I think all of that.

Steve-O: Yeah, they're showcases.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. okay

Steve-O: Yeah. um And, you know, I've been having a lot of fun with it. i don't think if you're somebody who's like, what is this do different from the other ones? It doesn't do much different. It's just in Japan.

Steve-O: um If you really like sim racers, this is the perfect balance, in my opinion, of like ah the people who kind of love the Gran Turismo games for how real they are. And they have like the steering wheel cockpits and somebody who is like, I kind of just want to drive through stuff.

Steve-O: It lets you do that. And so that's why I like it, because it's like.

JohhnyCAGE: Well, you and I, yeah.

Steve-O: What's up

JohhnyCAGE: Well, you and John were like really obsessed with the one that was like one or two editions ago, right? It was like Australia or something.

Steve-O: Yes, Australia, the fourth one.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. Would, how okay. Like is four still your kind of favorite?

IGOTTADUMP: That kind of, didn't that kind of define the formula moving forward?

Steve-O: i mean, they all kind of define the four. Like, that's the thing. They're all very similar for, I think, was the one that introduced Seasons. And I think that's just kind of been like they're all very similar after that, like you're saying, ah where it's like, you know, if you play in springtime, things are going to be like spring.

Steve-O: If you play during autumn, you know, all the leaves are going to start falling and everything's going to be orange. If you play in the winter, it's going to be snowing. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: It kind of feels like or sounds like your first Forza Horizon game is going to be your favorite one.

Steve-O: Right. And I think that is true.

JohhnyCAGE: Kind of regardless.

Steve-O: My first one was the first one.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: Like I played it.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. Is that your favorite?

Steve-O: Um, um, I don't know if but it's my favorite. It's the one I remember the most because of how unique it was. It was very much just like, here's just an entire road and area and and like open map and you kind of get to define your own races.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah.

Steve-O: Um, it's a lot of fun. And this one, you know, follows that, like it it follows that DNA, uh, I love what people do with the cars. Like literally it's people making lightning McQueen. And like, if you try to race as lightning McQueen in the cockpit, you cannot see out of your windshield because they have painted over it.

Steve-O: So it's just your blind racing.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: If you're trying to do first person racing. Um, but it's, it's a lot of fun. If you like lights, I'm going to call it light simulation racing, it It will definitely be your jam.

Steve-O: But um I'm somebody who is like, you know, I'll dabble with some light simulation racing. I'll do a few of them. I'll be like, that was fun. um I don't ever try to up the difficulty in the games past the like the normal.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: And the game will be like, hey, you're doing really good in your races. Do you want to do you want me to make it harder for you? And I'm like, no, no, no, please don't.

JohhnyCAGE: No, thank you. I'm happy here.

Steve-O: i would I want to win these races. I want to do okay.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm happy you're winning.

Steve-O: Yeah. Like, i've I kind of thought that um Mario Kart World was going to be arcade-y Forza Horizon.

Steve-O: And it sort of is to a degree, but less so.

JohhnyCAGE: But it's like not arcadey enough.

Steve-O: There's just... it's It just doesn't provide enough... Like Forza Horizon 6, it gives you a lot to do. You buy houses. There's an auction house where people can put up the cars they they either bought or won.

Steve-O: And, you know, people are like literally bidding it on stuff like eBay. So there's like this like weird ecosystem that exists. Like there's a lot that's going on in this game. Yeah.

Steve-O: And you can just like drive around. There's like speed traps and stuff in Mario Kart World, which, you know, has an open world like Forza Horizon. The only thing you can kind of do is just drive to the next race.

Steve-O: And then there's like some coins hidden in some places. That's about it. While Forza Horizon, if you want to do like whatever you want, if you want to do street races, you can focus on street races. If you want to do like um drag races, you can focus on drag races. It's very much a game where it's like whatever you find the most fun, you can focus on.

Steve-O: And that's why I think it is so highly regarded and given such good scores. Would I say it's a nine to one? Probably not. I'd probably give it like a 96, 97, but that's like, you know, just like a few points away from what it is. And that's, you know, that's not bad. If you're really big into racing and cars, because, you know, there's people out there who just absolutely love cars.

IGOTTADUMP: Right. That is their main focus for gaming, too.

Steve-O: Right.

IGOTTADUMP: It's the only thing that matters.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: So very focused.

JohhnyCAGE: So you like it, but you don't love it.

Steve-O: This is for them.

Steve-O: I I I love the fact that it is not a full on simulation racer like the normal Forza and Gran Turismo games like the The one thing that I will never forgive those games doing is punishing you for not driving the way the game demands you to.

Steve-O: Like you remember, I forget the name of that drive club for the PlayStation 4, Devin.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah yeah

Steve-O: You remember how like they were all about like, if you're not if you're not staying in your lane, you're going to be punished and dock points and you're going to be like they were very strict on the racing, which I was like, no, fuck that.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah vaguely just because i was like this is interesting and then once i heard about that was like i am no longer interested in this

Steve-O: Right. And that's the one thing for it's a horizon does where it's like it's something for the people who love cars, but it's also another thing for people who just want to like race outside the like the lines.

Steve-O: So you do whatever you want. You basically are just given a world. You can race it however you feel. It's a little bit realistic in its racing, but also you can kind of control it. The first thing the game asks you when you open it up is it's like, hey, do you want this to feel a little bit more arcadey or do you want it to be like full on sim? And so you kind of can like adjust it accordingly, which which I always appreciate.

Steve-O: So good stuff. I'm really enjoying it. I would give it a ah good set.

IGOTTADUMP: What are

JohhnyCAGE: Nice. Anything else?

Steve-O: Um,

Steve-O: Not a lot. You know, just there's just been i've been real busy lately. So.

JohhnyCAGE: Just plugging away.

Steve-O: I'm excited about something that you've played because it has been a whole fucking drama on the Internet.

IGOTTADUMP: what are you talking about?

JohhnyCAGE: Steve's, of course, referring to me replaying Wild Arms on the PlayStation 1.

Steve-O: Man, people are ready to kill Devin Wild Arms.

JohhnyCAGE: I've been... this they're Ready?

IGOTTADUMP: for

JohhnyCAGE: Ready?

IGOTTADUMP: What happened?

Steve-O: Oh, oh. wo

JohhnyCAGE: No, i I have been. No, but um so i was interested year ago. I'll do a little setup. A year ago, i saw a trailer for this game called Mixtape, and it looked really cool, fun, indie small, but like looked interesting. Oh, this seems like it be kind of cool, like like a John Hughes type film, but in a game.

JohhnyCAGE: Um, and I was like, oh sick. And then it got delayed like a year and then kind of forgot it existed, which is fine. Right. I wasn't that obsessed with it. Um, and then it kind of snuck up on me and came out and then it's, it's getting tens.

JohhnyCAGE: Everybody's like loving I, Jen gives it a 10. It's getting 9.8 nines, you know, 8.8.5. It's like something like that.

Steve-O: Best reviewed game of the year, I think.

JohhnyCAGE: Right. And I'm like, shit, I better buy this game. Sight unseen. i mean, like, I mean, not quite, but I heard it was great.

JohhnyCAGE: I didn't watch any trailers or I didn't watch any like reviews. I just bought it because to be fair, it's 20 bucks. It's not exactly expensive. um And it's like three and a half hours. Something like that.

JohhnyCAGE: I think my total time was like maybe four, four and change. And, um, I did not like this game almost at all. And unfortunately, if you don't like this game, you're basically a red-pilled piece of shit who thinks like it's ah it's ah it's a plant.

Steve-O: Yeah, I've been seeing people use the term industry plant.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah I'm sorry. It's an industry plant. it's ah You're red-pilled. It's indie woke trash. It's this, it's that. If you don't like the game. um your shill and all that if you like if you like the game. um i just I just didn't vibe at all with this game, unfortunately.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: um Because if I think if you are a ah Southern California music-loving kid of the early ninety s This is your game. This is for you. This was directly aimed at your face.

JohhnyCAGE: And I think a lot of reviewers are that guy, um for sure.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: That guy, that person. um I am not, I was not that kid. ah I didn't drink or party or do drugs when I was in school.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't care about like music. I famously, if you know me is like a weak spot of mine. um So these, it starts with like this kind of a Ferris Bueller type main character, of this, this girl.

JohhnyCAGE: And she's like, my superpowers. I'm really good at knowing what song fits every moment. And then she just kind of like tells you the game is holding tracks.

JohhnyCAGE: So it's like, oh, this is Devo, Talking Heads by Buh-Buh, came out in 1987, and she, like, talks about it, and then you play a little game sequence. And within 30 seconds, I was like, I do not like this character.

JohhnyCAGE: She's really snobby and annoying and just, which is, not even saying it's bad. It's just, like, that's her character. She's just like, oh, if you don't listen to this, like, I think less of you.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: you know, very gatekeepy, but whatever. She's fucking 19, 18, 19 years old.

IGOTTADUMP: kind of What kind of music is on Showcase?

JohhnyCAGE: It's kind of a it's a big, broad spectrum. ah Let's see.

Steve-O: No rap though. heard no rap.

JohhnyCAGE: No. Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Really?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Music of mixtape. Devo is is the first song.

IGOTTADUMP: well I like Devo.

JohhnyCAGE: highly Highly curated, nostalgic soundtrack, 70s, 80s, and 90s.

IGOTTADUMP: What song?

JohhnyCAGE: um shit give me one second oh my god it's gonna be nightmare uh oh my god that's good is that a diva song is that a diva song um but it's basically a it's divo and a bunch of songs i've never heard before um

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, I like that song. Yeah. I'm looking it up now.

IGOTTADUMP: I like Joy Division.

JohhnyCAGE: maybe Maybe there's a... So, yeah, that's good. Just Like Honey by Jesus Mayor Chain. Freak by Silverchair.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, Spellbound by Susie and the Banshees.

JohhnyCAGE: Chris, you might fucking love this game.

IGOTTADUMP: That's a good song.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know.

IGOTTADUMP: oh

JohhnyCAGE: um But, like... So, this is what really irks me outside of the characters that I do not resonate with at all. Even though i'm I'm in that age group, it's just...

JohhnyCAGE: Um, so people are like, oh, it's like a John Hughes film because it's, it's this story that takes place over the span of a day and it's high school. It's, you know, they they just graduated senior her year.

Steve-O: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: The main character is going away to New York to follow her dream. So she's kind of fucking up the, the friend unit and there's drama there, right? Which is understandable.

JohhnyCAGE: Uh, and then, you know, it starts in the morning and at the end of the night kind of ends with a party. um but it's just a lot of like John Hughes mixed with like family guy because there's a lot of like the whole every sequence of this game is like you play a song, then you're in like a little room or something where you like look at items and you have like talking points and then you select the highlighted item and then it takes you to a different time.

JohhnyCAGE: It takes like not a different time, but it's like, it's, it's very much remember when, Oh, remember when we got high and went to the video store and it's like a game is remember when we, we, yeah.

Steve-O: Right.

Steve-O: Little non sequitur moments.

JohhnyCAGE: And it's, None of them are interesting or good, frankly. Like, to me, they weren't at all. um And I'm not saying it doesn't look good.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm not saying there's not anything to really derive. But the 10, the people that are like, this is a 9, this is a 10, the story is doing, like, 80% of the work.

Steve-O: Mm.

JohhnyCAGE: And if you do not vibe with it, and I played through it hoping it was going to turn a corner. I didn't think fully, but, you know, the closest example of like, I was digging Claire, weird comparison, but I was digging Claire obscure.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: And then by the end of it, I was like, oh man, I really kind of shot up a few degrees in quality. In my opinion, storytelling wise, um this doesn't like this.

Steve-O: Damn,

JohhnyCAGE: If you don't like it in the first 30 seconds, you're not going like it at all for the, for the remainder. So like, if you don't vibe with the story, this is like a four dude. Like for me, I was like, Oh,

Steve-O: m real okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Like, cause it's, and again, I don't care that it's like a walking simulator. I don't care that you can put the controller down and kind of go through a sequence. It's not really that type of game.

Steve-O: Right. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I love Walking Dead Telltale. Like that's not necessarily what makes me get out of bed in terms of gameplay. But if there's nothing interesting going on there mechanics wise,

JohhnyCAGE: So there's really nothing and there's nothing interesting happening plot wise or story wise or character wise. The only thing this game really had going for it for me was like visually it was kind of unique. And even then it's real like choppy. It's like 24 hours.

Steve-O: They're trying to do like the spider verse thing, right?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, and it's it's, there are times where it doesn't even look that good, like, because it's it's funky looking, right? But its it's the whole vibe, so I definitely give it a pass. But, like, yeah, dude, I was just like, shit. I felt like ah i felt like an asshole for not liking this game until I really, you know, and in a good way, you know, we we kind of went a few weeks before recording, so I kind of got a little bit more time to sit with it.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: But um yeah, dude, it's just none of the the the remember whens, the you know the non sequiturs really did anything for me. They're not related in any way. It's just like moments in your childhood.

JohhnyCAGE: um

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: And considering i wasn't a music snob in the early 90s in Southern California.

Steve-O: at of Southern California music

JohhnyCAGE: We're, we're talking like this, dude. Like, I don't know, man, just fucking nothing about it spoke to me. And I was so bummed. But the only, the good news is, is people do like it and that's fine.

JohhnyCAGE: And also it's 20 bucks.

Steve-O: yeah And like, that's the thing.

JohhnyCAGE: It was 20 bucks. It was like three, four hours of my time.

Steve-O: I don't think it's like the biggest whack, but also I think there are people who are very protective of a 10 score.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: And when they see 10 scores.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I mean, a 10 is outrageous, I do think.

Steve-O: Yeah, like I think they put it up with games where it'll be like Red Dead or like Zelda games and stuff like that.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Nostalgia has a tendency to do that.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, but I think the problem is, like, this is more of an industry issue.

IGOTTADUMP: Clouds your eyes.

JohhnyCAGE: The problem is it's not just, like, fucking DualShockers gave it a 10. Like, IGN gave it a 10.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: And it's it's almost a meme at how, like, tone deaf their reviews can be at this point, but it's still like, that's the biggest name in, in the game review space.

JohhnyCAGE: So when you see that, it's like, I don't know, man, it's tough.

Steve-O: from what you From what you've described to me, where it's like a three-hour game, and you know it's's it's story, it's more or less like you know there is like you know input, but there's definitely moments where like there's not really a fail sequence, but it is definitely more or less just like trying to tell you an interactive story.

JohhnyCAGE: Cause like, how can you say, yeah

Steve-O: like I could see this being eight or even nines. I think there's definitely a point where you're like, is this...

JohhnyCAGE: The review editor should be like, the the ceiling is nine. You cannot go higher.

Steve-O: Right. I think people need to be a little bit more protective of tens. And I think there's a lot of people who kind of agree in that stance where it's like, is this a perfect sequence? And I think there's been a lot of comparisons I've seen with dispatch where people have been like, well, everything that you have a problem with with mixtape is also in dispatch.

JohhnyCAGE: which And I was thinking about that, too, because I was like, wow, like this is I was hoping it was going to be dispatch. And I'm like, this is what dispatch was to me, basically.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah and But even then, I wouldn't have said it's a 10. Granted, you know, we say Mary and that ah gives us a little bit more room.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: But I would have given the I don't think I'd be hard pressed to be like, it's a 10 dispatch is a 10.

Steve-O: I mean, you see when, like when Devin was talking about obsession before his talk about Mary, he was like, not only is it a Mary, it's a, we've, we've been together for 10 years.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah we've been We've grown old together. Yeah.

Steve-O: Like,

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, that's a 10 to me.

IGOTTADUMP: That's a definitive 10.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: Right. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: This is... um Yeah, and I don't know. It's just like... And yeah, Mixed... I'm sorry, Dispatch wasn't getting 10s from IGN.

JohhnyCAGE: So we like, what the... The fuck, man? But it's it's different reviewers, and and i and I get it. But it is an interesting talking point that like... as an industry, maybe we should control that a little bit more, but that was tough.

Steve-O: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: Cause how can you say it's not that I don't believe that the person who gave it a 10 didn't absolutely love it, but I don't know.

Steve-O: Here's another question for you. Is there any like characters who are LGBTQ?

JohhnyCAGE: No. um Oh, in, in mixtape. No, it's, it's kind of like,

Steve-O: Yeah, because I remember seeing like there was people who were like, oh, another woke game. Goddamn. And then there was people who were also like, yeah, that there's I don't think like they were like, there's no gay characters in this game.

JohhnyCAGE: No, that's the funny thing. There's nothing there's nothing woke about it.

Steve-O: Wait a minute.

JohhnyCAGE: No, there's like...

Steve-O: So it's kind of I saw like both sides kind of come at it with a problem.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it's funny because I think you could maybe infer that the main character could be gay, but not really.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: that like she has no interest her so it's it's her um her dude best friend and it's completely platonic and then um the girl cassie who they're also friends with um she was like a later addition to like the the the trio right it was like her and her guy friend and then she came she like met them in like freshman year and they're all best friends now but like

IGOTTADUMP: Thank you.

JohhnyCAGE: it could, you could imply that she had a thing for Cassie, but like, you got to stretch to get there, right?

Steve-O: Okay. Hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: There's, there's, she's very like, she's, she's just, she's not interested in anything but music. Like that's, and there's a moment where like one of the flashbacks is like, she wants to hang out with her, but Cassie's like, Oh no, I'm not feeling that good. And then like,

JohhnyCAGE: you find out later that like she actually just met up with like another friend instead of hanging out with her. And then she's all bummed about it. But like, that's more because she felt like her friend, you know, Dixter as opposed to like, I was in love with her. Like again, it there's zero of that. Yeah.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: Cause like saw like, cause know like you were saying like the red pill side of the internet, they get real. Like I saw how they went after. um Oh, what was, what's the name of that card game at risk of rain? um

JohhnyCAGE: vampire crawlers oh okay oh because of the uh anita thing

Steve-O: Slay the Spire to play the Spire to came out. People, people loved it. And then one person was like, Hey, they think need a Sarkeesian in the credits. Let's review bomb this game that we love.

JohhnyCAGE: even though like she's been in the credits like it was very odd it was very it's not like they hit it like she was like i don't know yeah exactly um

Steve-O: Yeah, wait.

IGOTTADUMP: Well, i you know, I'll be honest with you guys. i The game I'm playing the most, which might be my game of the year, I think there is a little incongruity with the reviews and the qual.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: And that's Vampire Crawlers.

JohhnyCAGE: Man, i have suchha I have such a weird take on Vampire Crawlers.

IGOTTADUMP: I've been playing that.

Steve-O: you

IGOTTADUMP: I fucking love that game. I've been playing it non-stop.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: I cracked it the fuck open.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm at the last boss. Like, last stage. Last boss. Like, totally been playing it for 20-some hours. It's extremely addictive.

IGOTTADUMP: i've I think I've unlocked all the crawlers except for one. one where It looks like a space marine. i Like the last one.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Why you got say that? Why you got to say that?

IGOTTADUMP: I'm just saying it does.

JohhnyCAGE: Why do you got dangle something like that?

IGOTTADUMP: That's all.............

Steve-O: Dude, that might be the crossover.

JohhnyCAGE: No, no. Listen, you want to when hear my take? This is my weird take on Vampire Crawlers. Not really against Vampire Crawlers, but card-based mechanics are the snobbiest mechanics in gaming.

JohhnyCAGE: Because... Because it's like, it's not even that the card-based mechanics suck. It's like, they can be good. But there's so much like unnecessary work to find the good there, as opposed to every other game type, right?

JohhnyCAGE: It almost feels like, in my brain, Vampire Survivors should have been the sequel, because that's so much more accessible. it just It's such a weird it's such a weird wall that that these games put up.

IGOTTADUMP: See, this is the thing about... van

IGOTTADUMP: I'll be honest with you. if you're like I think Vampire Crawlers is...

JohhnyCAGE: um I'm really, like my beef is with card-based mechanics. It's not really even with vampire crawlers.

IGOTTADUMP: I know, but like Vampire Crawlers I think is a more accessible game than Vampire Survivors.

JohhnyCAGE: Absolutely no. There's no way.

IGOTTADUMP: I think it is! It's easier to play!

JohhnyCAGE: i No, no, it's not.

Steve-O: Do you have it, Devin? Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: No, no, I refuse because of the card-based stuff.

Steve-O: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: It's so much easier.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm not interested.

IGOTTADUMP: It's literally just combos.

JohhnyCAGE: No, dude, I'm telling, I'm, dude, moving your, I fucking pet, I was petting my dog eating a sandwich and then playing Vampire Survivors with my pinky.

IGOTTADUMP: That's all the game is.

JohhnyCAGE: Like, don't, it's not easier to play, dude. It's just like, like listen, listen, I played a ah Marvel Midnight Suns, right?

IGOTTADUMP: don't know. I think it is.

JohhnyCAGE: With, with a card-based combat system.

IGOTTADUMP: I think...

IGOTTADUMP: I think Vampire Survivors is far more RNG-based, and I think you could do a lot more in Vampire Crawlers with the right card setup.

JohhnyCAGE: I mean, maybe. it's

Steve-O: Amen.

IGOTTADUMP: It's just, to me...

JohhnyCAGE: And it's not even that I think that it's a bad combat, but it's just like they're such a It's such an obstacle to so many people that they're like, oh my fucking god.

JohhnyCAGE: And I hear it's it's a very light card game. It's not like...

JohhnyCAGE: It's not Bellatro, right?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, it's not it's not like it's not overly cerebral and and and it's it's not hardcore hardcore ah strategic.

JohhnyCAGE: Or maybe even Bellatro is a bad... ah yeah Yeah, exactly. It's not Cerebro. Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: it's You're just getting combos.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. But it's just like, it's so annoying when known quantities say, ah you want to play this game?

IGOTTADUMP: That's all it is.

JohhnyCAGE: You want to play the sequel? You want to play the next installment of this thing that you like? Boom, card game. And I'm immediately deflated. Yes, this stems from Kingdom Hearts.

JohhnyCAGE: Chain of memories.

Steve-O: I was going to ask.

IGOTTADUMP: That's awful.

Steve-O: I was genuinely going to ask that.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, but still, but and and even then you could understand why, because the Game Boy would have struggled with with the combat system like that. But like, dude, dude, Midnight Suns card based game, ah Vampire Crawlers card based game.

IGOTTADUMP: It is so much fun.

JohhnyCAGE: The only one that really gets a pass to me. are the ones that are originally, they start like that. ah Like Bellatro, right? That's not a known, it's not like I played the Bellatro RPG and then they're made of Bellatro card game.

JohhnyCAGE: And I was like, oh, fuck.

IGOTTADUMP: I think it's a good pivot, to be honest, because it's just as... i think the whole point I think the whole point of both of these games is...

JohhnyCAGE: it I'm not even saying it's not, it's just a snobby, it's such a snobby fucking move, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: I think the whole point of both these games is addiction.

JohhnyCAGE: Probably, but but it's like, oh no, you gotta you got to learn how to deck build.

IGOTTADUMP: That's what I think.

Steve-O: They're potato chip games.

IGOTTADUMP: They are potato chip games.

JohhnyCAGE: And I'm like, fucking, I i could be less i could not be less, I hate deck building. I'm not interested.

IGOTTADUMP: It's not even deck building.

JohhnyCAGE: It's lame.

IGOTTADUMP: That's the crazy part of it all. it's you're you're of Of course, you're getting crawlers that have certain cards baked in, but every card evolves. Every card is pretty useful. It's just getting the right combos, stringing them all together properly, and getting buffs on everything.

JohhnyCAGE: Hey, Steve, you want to play the new Batman Arkham game? Nah, sorry. It's a card game.

IGOTTADUMP: I would play the fuck out of that.

Steve-O: I would check that out. I would check that out.

JohhnyCAGE: Now you, no, no, you'd be fucking bummed.

IGOTTADUMP: he is Steve would play that too.

JohhnyCAGE: You'd be like, man, I really wish.

IGOTTADUMP: Steve is going to buy a Lego Batman game.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: I already bought one.

IGOTTADUMP: He already bought one.

Steve-O: already bought one.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. And imagine if instead of Lego Batman, they were like, oh, that's a Lego Batman card game.

Steve-O: already bought it.

Steve-O: Comes out tomorrow if you buy a deluxe.

JohhnyCAGE: And you're like, what the fuck, dude? This is a problem.

IGOTTADUMP: It's a card game.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, you paid extra to fucking play two days early.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah. Dude, I paid extra to play Forza Horizon 6. That's not out yet.

JohhnyCAGE: I thought you had, oh, nevermind. I thought you had game pass and then I remembered. Nah,

IGOTTADUMP: imagine ah Imagine a Batman card game like inscription where it's like you're on like Scarecrow fear gas the whole fucking game.

JohhnyCAGE: dude, it would stink. Yeah, in script and listen, and again, and again, i'm not saying card-based mechanics suck.

Steve-O: Ooh, each of the villains.

IGOTTADUMP: Dude.

JohhnyCAGE: I've played card-based games before. I find the fun, but it's the fact that survivors,

Steve-O: What are some of the games you like?

JohhnyCAGE: Vampire survivors, you find the fun within the first second of that game. you're like Oh, I get it.

IGOTTADUMP: And I say you find the fun within the first second of Vampire Crawlers.

JohhnyCAGE: I get it. I get it.

JohhnyCAGE: You can't.

IGOTTADUMP: Within the first fucking second.

JohhnyCAGE: No, because I have to fucking watch a tutorial about cards instead.

IGOTTADUMP: It's so easy to pick up. It's literally...

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: i played Forbidden Solitaire and that was more difficult in comparison to Vampire Crawlers.

Steve-O: You definitely like lose a lot in Forbidden Solitaire.

JohhnyCAGE: ah Yeah.

Steve-O: like

IGOTTADUMP: That's a harder card game.

Steve-O: Did you finish that?

IGOTTADUMP: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Steve-O: What did you think of it?

IGOTTADUMP: It was good.

Steve-O: It was good. I don't think it's as good as Home Safety Hotline, but I liked it.

IGOTTADUMP: Absolutely not.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, you want to play the new the new spinoff of Home Safety Hotline?

IGOTTADUMP: I agree 100%.

JohhnyCAGE: Sorry, card game instead.

IGOTTADUMP: Well, I have to admit, that wasn't as good of a transition as it was from Vampire Survivors to Vampire Crawlers.

JohhnyCAGE: And you played it.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. It's it's just it's just like ah it's it's just a snobby flex.

Steve-O: a Mmm...

JohhnyCAGE: That's how i view card-based mechanics.

IGOTTADUMP: It's not.

Steve-O: devin Devin, you know what, Devin? Devin, you know what i feel like you did? You did the thing where Chris was excited to talk about his favorite game so far this year.

JohhnyCAGE: Now, I'm so sorry.

Steve-O: You know what? You drove your ATV in and you fucking so you sprayed your beer all over Chris.

JohhnyCAGE: now chris i i do apologize it's just funny that you said that because i literally i don't know if you guys do this but like i'll go on fucking rants by myself in my car i went on a total fucking rant about this for 20 minutes it's it's

IGOTTADUMP: No.

Steve-O: Ha, ha, ha.

IGOTTADUMP: That's... It's only you, man.

Steve-O: um You know what? I feel bad. i feel bad because i can ah i can I can be there with you, Devin. I went on a rant about funerals and then someone honked at me and then I started screaming at that man.

JohhnyCAGE: who Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: you go full you guys go full You're telling me you guys go full Dennis Miller in your car everyone every day?

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, dude, I, you know what I do? you du Dude, this is, this is.

Steve-O: Well, I was with someone. I was with someone, so I was talking.

IGOTTADUMP: Okay. Okay. okay okay okay

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, okay. Yeah. Mine's worse.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, this is different.

Steve-O: But I was discussing how I think it's fucked up who how like you know the person closest to the departed has to pay for the after-funeral meal.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: I think that's fucked up. And while I was saying this, I was doing my bed.

JohhnyCAGE: you know essentially you're you're doing a bit you're you're you're ah you're on the way to a bit

IGOTTADUMP: That's why so many people do is that's like so many people do so many people do good

Steve-O: I was in the middle of my bed. And then somebody in a

Steve-O: somebody in a Tesla fucking honked at me.

IGOTTADUMP: for this

IGOTTADUMP: wow

Steve-O: And I was like oh, I was in the middle of discussing why I think this is fucked up.

IGOTTADUMP: a yeah

JohhnyCAGE: wait wait to be fair were you like supposed to was the light green and you're just going on this bit okay

Steve-O: And they, the light was green. The light was green for like a second. I was ready to go. impatient Tesla driver.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. All right.

Steve-O: Literally when we got on the main road, it gets in front of me.

JohhnyCAGE: Fair enough.

Steve-O: You know what license plate fucking said, Devin? you know what his fucking license plate said?

JohhnyCAGE: i I bet you said it's like vegan forever.

Steve-O: It was a custom.

IGOTTADUMP: Ass man.

Steve-O: It was a custom. No worse, worse hockey dad.

IGOTTADUMP: Anus tart.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: a

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, i

Steve-O: So I went, fuck you hockey dad. i was talking about funerals. i was talking about the dearly departed. Anyway, that's my 10 minutes on that.

JohhnyCAGE: well, yeah, no that's, that's, you were still with somebody. See, this is where gets upsetting.

IGOTTADUMP: You know what Devin's hockey dad is Vampire crawlers, apparently.

Steve-O: but

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah. yeah

IGOTTADUMP: yeah

Steve-O: Fuck you, vampire crawlers!

JohhnyCAGE: Look at

IGOTTADUMP: He's irrationally angry at somebody.

Steve-O: Dude, I think it's Kingdom Hearts. I think it's Chain a chain of Memories.

JohhnyCAGE: you. no i i know On my rant, I was like, this starts with Kingdom Hearts.

IGOTTADUMP: get your head garbage out of this conversation.

JohhnyCAGE: No, no, because, because like, see, the why it's so bad for me is because I'll be listening to a podcast or something. They'll say something, and that will either trigger it, or I'll just think of that because it somehow unlocks something in my brain.

JohhnyCAGE: I'll pause the podcast, go on a fucking Dennis Miller rant, and then start the then start where I stopped by myself.

IGOTTADUMP: Jesus Christ, Devin.

JohhnyCAGE: Because I've i've done this with with women I've dated, and they tune me out so quickly.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm gonna be real with you, Devin.

JohhnyCAGE: Jenny just doesn't even pay attention to me.

IGOTTADUMP: Whether you like it or not, they got a roadmap now out for vampire crawlers.

Steve-O: A roadmap!

IGOTTADUMP: Bitch! We got DLC coming! Choke on that!

JohhnyCAGE: Now, listen, listen, you know, I'm going to, you know what?

IGOTTADUMP: Ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha

JohhnyCAGE: I'll just, don't enjoy Warhammer survivors when that comes out. and A normal person game.

IGOTTADUMP: ha ha! Warhammer Survivor?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, that's a real game coming out.

IGOTTADUMP: Is it really?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, du dude, it looks good too.

IGOTTADUMP: mean, I'm gonna play that, too.

Steve-O: that's That's probably why that's a space marine at the very end.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm gonna play that, too.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah No, but but listen, because this is this is my my bias, because you know I'm a fucking slut for Warhammer.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, sure.

JohhnyCAGE: The card games, I don't fucking touch.

IGOTTADUMP: If there was a Warhammer Crawler, you wouldn't go near it

JohhnyCAGE: I got no thank you.

JohhnyCAGE: No, maybe. I check it out. I think I don't.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, Kdev. Yeah, i thank you for at least admitting you would check it out.

JohhnyCAGE: I think I i just, so I, but to Steve's point, Chris, I do.

IGOTTADUMP: Because

JohhnyCAGE: but It's just funny that you brought it up. Cause I went on a fucking psychotic rant about this and I was like, I should do like a tick tock about this or whatever. And then I didn't.

Steve-O: Yes, you should.

JohhnyCAGE: And then Chris brought it up.

Steve-O: You should.

JohhnyCAGE: Do it.

Steve-O: ah do it. Oh, okay. Excellent.

JohhnyCAGE: Do it

IGOTTADUMP: that's... It's a Mary. I love it.

JohhnyCAGE: man. So, okay. So you're saying it's, it's your favorite might be your favorite game the year.

IGOTTADUMP: Can't wait for DLC.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, I played another game pretty recently, as in of today. i bought it today. Marvel Cosmic.

JohhnyCAGE: Ooh, that's a good game.

Steve-O: okay excellent

JohhnyCAGE: That's a good game.

IGOTTADUMP: I wanted to fuck around. I like beat-em-ups. It plays almost exactly like Absalom.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: um

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, well, it's like that company has their fingers in all all those games in some level.

Steve-O: They made, like, that's the same company, right?

IGOTTADUMP: I believe it is.

JohhnyCAGE: There's like four companies or something, because like the the same...

IGOTTADUMP: It feels like it is.

JohhnyCAGE: One of like the three companies that did Marvel Cosmic worked on Absalom and they also worked on the Turtles game. I think this is... And Streets of Rage 4. So it's like, I think this is closer to the Turtles game that came out of a few years ago.

Steve-O: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: um

IGOTTADUMP: Yes.

JohhnyCAGE: It's funny that you said that, Chris, because ah some DLC just was announced for that game.

IGOTTADUMP: Cyclops and the Thing. I got it.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah.

Steve-O: All right, you got the bundle. Hell yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Of course!

JohhnyCAGE: Nice.

Steve-O: Chris is saving because it's on sale right now on Steam Daily Deal.

IGOTTADUMP: e really like Captain America. Really like Black Panther.

JohhnyCAGE: know

IGOTTADUMP: um Do not like She-Hulk.

JohhnyCAGE: ah Really? i dig She-Hulk a lot.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, I was not having fun with her. She's too slow. um Yeah, Cap is great, especially when you chain his his shield.

JohhnyCAGE: Fair enough. Fair enough.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: That is fucking wonderful. i just clear clear in house with that. And Black Panther is really fucking good.

JohhnyCAGE: He's awesome. Wolverine's obviously awesome. ah

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, the the the the his jump attack where he like jumped on top of you.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Rocket. Rocket is fun because he has like an RNG with like his like his combo or something. like randomly, he'll just like do like a screen clear attack because he's just a fucking maniac type character.

IGOTTADUMP: I do not like Captain America. I do not like, or no, i I don't like Iron Man.

Steve-O: You just said you like Captain America.

JohhnyCAGE: You don't like, yeah, you just have some Marvel.

IGOTTADUMP: don't like playing as Iron Man.

Steve-O: Oh, OK.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, Iron Man. What about Nova?

IGOTTADUMP: There's something about the projectiles that just don't have like any weight, like outside the shield, the shield bops people around

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: And the shield yeah comes right back to you.

Steve-O: Hmm.

IGOTTADUMP: and it comes back. um the The better a bill storm breaker storm bringer storm bringer.

JohhnyCAGE: Breaker, I think.

IGOTTADUMP: Breaker. Stormbreaker.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: I like that ability quite a bit. But he's really slow too.

JohhnyCAGE: Um, who's a character?

IGOTTADUMP: Like that's that's a detriment in this game.

JohhnyCAGE: I, you know what? I, I thought I'd like Spider-Man and Venom more, but like, I don't love the swinging.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. Me either. It's too awkward.

JohhnyCAGE: It's a little, yeah, it's a little not, not, it's not perfect.

Steve-O: It's very funny because I feel like Captain America, no matter what game he's in feels good.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah. And ah man, I don't know if you if you watch that trailer, but Cyclops looks sick in this.

Steve-O: Cyclops looks sick as hell.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, dude.

JohhnyCAGE: Looks sick, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm all about that fucking jacket combo.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: that's ah That's a nice touch. I like that they went for the jacket Cyclops.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, that is, that looks good. It looks like, because, you know, to be real, whenever he's just in that thing, he looks kind of naked. You know?

Steve-O: I'm with you.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: And it' just I like that he has, it's like a little bit extra style to the

Steve-O: It's a little bit extra style, but also I'm i'm going to say it gives him a little dad energy. It gives him a little like, hey, bring a jacket like that kind of like attitude.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, it's going to get chilly. All right.

Steve-O: So we should all bring jackets.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm the one thinking.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: Logan, where's your jacket?

IGOTTADUMP: They get Silver Surfer yet.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, you're going real fast, Bob.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm kind of psyched. I'm psyched for Silver Surfer.

Steve-O: Okay. Hell yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: I did not get it.

JohhnyCAGE: No, he's sick.

IGOTTADUMP: I know he's in there, right?

JohhnyCAGE: I like him more than I like Phyla Vell. She's okay.

IGOTTADUMP: I don't like Phoenix either. I'm not a big fan of, I'm not a big fan of like the projectile.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah, no, that's fair.

IGOTTADUMP: group they're not that's not as weighty you know i actually haven't haven't tried cosmic goes right i do

JohhnyCAGE: but the You don't like Cosmic Ghost Rider?

JohhnyCAGE: you know You know that's? That's Frank Castle, right? For some reason, not for some, there's a comic reason why, but, ah you know,

IGOTTADUMP: yeah no i've i've watched some youtube videos about some such things he goes like nuts too right because he's out in space

JohhnyCAGE: cosmic ghost rider. Yeah. Even though I'm like, I'm not going to be sold on this. This is still fucking stupid.

IGOTTADUMP: It is very dumb. It's everything that they've done with the Punisher um for the past, would say 10 years, has been stupid.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: yeah i think I think people have just been kind of like oh man I gotta do Punisher yeah I feel like a bunch of like shitty cops ruined everything

JohhnyCAGE: ah

IGOTTADUMP: I don't think it's been interesting any way.

JohhnyCAGE: um

IGOTTADUMP: It's like such a bummer now.

JohhnyCAGE: He's because it's he's like he's like the Superman still, right? It's like, how do you do it? That's not boring.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, I think Absolute Superman is doing it pretty well.

JohhnyCAGE: We need an absolute punisher.

Steve-O: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: i They literally turned crypto. Instead of crypto, Absolute Superman has Parasite as his pet.

Steve-O: Oh.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: That is more interesting.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm in.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, but like, but okay, so so the and the the given there that was like Superman's an alien, so you have some room.

Steve-O: That's a very interesting.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: What do you just do? What do you do with a guy where the core concept still is like family died?

IGOTTADUMP: he he's vietnam it's Vietnam is so it's so crucial Frank it's like no other war I mean at least since Vietnam hasn't been as I know that but like Vietnam was the beginning of that

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Yeah, you just change the war? Like that's that's all they do. They just change the war that he was in.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know, man. this This new one. This new one we're in.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: You know what i mean? Like it was really the the starting point of wars being pointless and people dying for no reason. You know, since the World War II at least.

IGOTTADUMP: And it was like romantic.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: But yeah, like the it's it's the romanticism of war died in Vietnam. And that's what Frank Castle is. He's the death of the romantic ideal of the hero.

IGOTTADUMP: So...

JohhnyCAGE: true

IGOTTADUMP: I mean, you could keep doing that, but like, it's just, you know, Vietnam's, it's an important part.

JohhnyCAGE: oh ah you know what kind of reminded me what I was thinking is a I gave the Leon must die DLC little bit of a shot um unfortunately

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: You died.

JohhnyCAGE: I you died. um i was ah I was really out of practice because I just come off of the Alan Wake to my Alan Wake to replay.

JohhnyCAGE: So like and it's funny because I'm playing. out God, these characters are so slow. Fucking Leon's a sloppy tank in in that game. Like I just i was like, oh, my God, God.

IGOTTADUMP: He's sick.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I know.

Steve-O: He's very ill.

JohhnyCAGE: But, but, you know, I just was like, fuck. And then I gave it like two or three runs. I got the point, but I was like, I kind of, I need to be, my wheels need to be a bit more.

IGOTTADUMP: Do you really fight Nemi?

JohhnyCAGE: What was that?

IGOTTADUMP: Do you really fight Nemi in that?

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, maybe it'd be news to me.

IGOTTADUMP: ah I thought that was like the final...

JohhnyCAGE: oh Oh, well, probably like Nemesis in the sense of the Nemesis villain in in this game. Remember, because he's a Nemesis, the doctor.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, yeah. Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I think that's probably you're thinking of.

IGOTTADUMP: All right. I didn't know how far they were going with that. Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. um

IGOTTADUMP: Well, that's a bummer.

JohhnyCAGE: No, but it's, you know, it's neat, but I was just like, cool.

IGOTTADUMP: I thought it was nemmy. mind every

JohhnyCAGE: And then I put it down because one, it wasn't mercenaries and two, it wasn't story DLC. So. I have my biases. So I was like, okay, I'll put you down.

Steve-O: I've seen a lot of people kind of just be like, yeah, I'm glad that this is a free mode.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it's free. Like, you can't even be mad about it was like, maybe, maybe if I was like, it's tough because like, this would have been, i would have had so much more fun with this if I was just freshly off of r e nine

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: But, like, my I lost all my my muscle memory. It was all gone, you know? And I was like, oh, whother what's the action button? Shit. And I'm just, you know. It's a tough mode to, like, get your bearings back in.

IGOTTADUMP: Do you think we're...

IGOTTADUMP: Do you think we're getting paid DLC for this?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. I think they announced it.

Steve-O: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: They did?

Steve-O: They hinted at it at least.

JohhnyCAGE: ah Yeah. Yeah.

Steve-O: i

JohhnyCAGE: No, they they said it because I think they even went as far as you'll find out who he's married to in the DLC.

Steve-O: They said it officially. Okay.

Steve-O: Oh.

JohhnyCAGE: In the story DLC.

IGOTTADUMP: What if it's America? America.

Steve-O: Oh, married to the country. It's

JohhnyCAGE: He just puts a promise. Oh, this is a promise ring to my country.

Steve-O: a promise ring on the Statue of Liberty.

JohhnyCAGE: You're like, oh, you suck.

IGOTTADUMP: I think that would be really romantic.

JohhnyCAGE: No, I wouldn't. I need him to be. I think the Internet needs to know that he he fucks. You know what I mean?

Steve-O: I drive a Porsche and I fuck.

JohhnyCAGE: They need it. Yeah, they need to know that he fucks. You can't just.

Steve-O: What if he looks at the camera and he says, I don't fuck.

JohhnyCAGE: I make love. Oh, OK.

IGOTTADUMP: No, no, he never doesn't elaborate.

JohhnyCAGE: okay Oh, okay. um

Steve-O: I'm an asexual being. Will you freak stop putting me in these scenarios?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. um Steve, you're the only one to ask this question.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Are you going to get Star Fox?

Steve-O: ah You know what, Devin? i am. i am.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: I am so into these freaky looking fucks.

JohhnyCAGE: You're in u're into it? I didn't know if you were going to get into it or not.

Steve-O: come Dude, you know what?

IGOTTADUMP: Freaky looking fuck.

Steve-O: Because here's the thing.

JohhnyCAGE: They're fucking weird looking, man.

Steve-O: Here's the thing. Because I'm seeing the people who are really into kind of like, you know, animal designs and stuff like that. They they go like, they're disgusting.

Steve-O: I hate this. And I look at it and I go, Well, one, like, keep in mind, you know, i that's just, it's just, it's just fucking, it's good.

JohhnyCAGE: it What?

Steve-O: It's good theming. The idea of, you know, nature, animals, but like these these, you know, these things that you see out in the world.

IGOTTADUMP: Let take a look.

Steve-O: And they're being they're being twisted and demented by technology, by man-made, like scientific discovery. It's twisting them. It's warping them into these disgusting, vile freaks.

Steve-O: And so, yes. Yes, Devon, I love it.

IGOTTADUMP: You like the, so I'm looking at, he's looking, but

Steve-O: Also, it's on sale. It's a discount game. It's only 50 bucks.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, he's just so fat.

IGOTTADUMP: wi yeah He's looking...

Steve-O: He's real fat.

JohhnyCAGE: Chris, is this your first time seeing them?

IGOTTADUMP: Yes.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. it's just ah I'll be honest.

Steve-O: Dude, they're disgusting. I love them.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't have an issue with any of the other ones. Just Fox is like, why are you so fat, bro?

Steve-O: You only have a problem with... Okay, a lot of people I'm noticing have problems with Falco.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, Falco looks little fucked.

JohhnyCAGE: i don't I don't see the problem with Falco.

IGOTTADUMP: He looks a little fucked. I think in motion, Falco's gonna look... gonna look rough.

JohhnyCAGE: i'm ah You know what? You know what was nice during that direct?

Steve-O: What's that?

JohhnyCAGE: I didn't know about the Pygma lore.

Steve-O: Oh, you didn't know about Pygmalore.

JohhnyCAGE: Pygma Gengar or whatever the fuck his name is.

IGOTTADUMP: is he Is he on the bad group?

Steve-O: ah Well, here's Pygma used to fly with James McCloud, Fox's dad, and then he betrayed him.

JohhnyCAGE: So Pyg... Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Dude, he was the Judas.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: He was the Judas.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, I see.

JohhnyCAGE: And then he's just like second in command of Star Wolf. And I was like, what the...

Steve-O: Did you play a lot of Star Fox 64, Devin?

JohhnyCAGE: I... Yes and no. Like...

Steve-O: Okay, because there's that part where he's like,

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, but I guess I never made the correlation that he, like, screwed him over, you know?

Steve-O: Oh, yeah, dude. It was a big it was a big fucking, like,

JohhnyCAGE: And then I didn't realize he's, like, the main villain in, like, the other Star Fox games or something. Also... Should be made aware. Because I think this is a crazy stat.

JohhnyCAGE: This is like the remake number four of Star Fox.

Steve-O: This is the fourth. Yeah. So there was, um yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: That's obscene, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: eve can I give you the names of star Fox characters and you can tell me the animal that they are?

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

Steve-O: Yes.

JohhnyCAGE: Ooh, dude.

Steve-O: I could try. I don't know if I can nail it because I'm not Mr.

JohhnyCAGE: I think he's going I think you're going to nail it.

Steve-O: Star Fox, but I'll do my best.

JohhnyCAGE: I think I could get this.

IGOTTADUMP: Okay. All right.

Steve-O: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: So I'm going to go, I'm gonna go easy first.

Steve-O: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm going to easy first. Panther car, car CEO.

Steve-O: That's a panther.

IGOTTADUMP: There you go.

JohhnyCAGE: Easy.

IGOTTADUMP: Easy peasy, easy peasy. Uh, I'll go another a little toss up. Wolf O'Donnell.

Steve-O: That's a wolf. That's Star Wolf, isn't it?

IGOTTADUMP: rep and Yeah. Star Wolf. That's he's the bad guy. He's the, the, the counter to star Fox. All right.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I'd say he's like a rock. No, I guess he's bad, right?

IGOTTADUMP: Okay. Steve, i don' I'm going to, you know, turn up the dial, turn up the dial a little bit here. going to give you Marco Monticello.

Steve-O: Marco Monticello. Is Marco Monticello

Steve-O: Marco Monticello. That's such a fun name.

JohhnyCAGE: you

Steve-O: Is that like a... Is that an ape?

JohhnyCAGE: What the fuck?

IGOTTADUMP: is that an ape

Steve-O: Not an ape? I don't know. What is Marco Monticello?

IGOTTADUMP: it's an uh crocodile or an alligator i'm not i'm not 100 sure okay uh that was that was that was that was right that was rough let me go katya gorsky um

Steve-O: Crocodile. Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: What the fuck?

Steve-O: Okay.

Steve-O: That's a cat.

Steve-O: Did you say Katia?

IGOTTADUMP: Katya. Yeah. Katya.

Steve-O: Not a cat, not a cat.

IGOTTADUMP: Katya Gorski. Well, it is. It's a feline.

Steve-O: Oh, it's a type cat.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, but I think that this i think I know exactly what cat this is. If you know. it's ah It's a big cat.

Steve-O: OK, is it a ah is it a cheetah?

IGOTTADUMP: It is a cheetah.

Steve-O: OK.

IGOTTADUMP: You got that one. All right, Steve. All right, i go to go I'm going to a little harder on you. Gia Antonio Vincenzo.

Steve-O: hold Okay, hold on.

IGOTTADUMP: Antonio Vincenzo.

Steve-O: We should play a game of Fox character or ah or a Sopranos character.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, some of these sound like you're fucking making this up, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm not.

JohhnyCAGE: Godfather or Star Fox.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm not.

Steve-O: ah

IGOTTADUMP: ah

Steve-O: ah ah ga

JohhnyCAGE: I'm sorry. What was the name again?

IGOTTADUMP: Gia Antonio Vincenzo. And it's a hyphen.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, this sounds...

IGOTTADUMP: It's hyphenated.

JohhnyCAGE: this You're fucking lying, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Antonio Vincenzo is hyphenated.

Steve-O: Is this some sort of bird?

JohhnyCAGE: There's no way!

Steve-O: Is this some sort of bird?

IGOTTADUMP: Yes, Steve. Yes.

Steve-O: Okay, it is. Is it a...

IGOTTADUMP: Yes.

Steve-O: um

IGOTTADUMP: I really don't know. But, like, if you...

Steve-O: Is it like a...

JohhnyCAGE: Chris, I need to see pictures. This feels like you're on a fan site, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: I think you're good enough to but burn, to be honest with you, bro.

Steve-O: Like a a hawk or a raven or something?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, i'd I'd say Hawk is pretty pretty pretty good, Steve.

Steve-O: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: You got that one. Okay, okay, all right. going to go as hard as I can.

Steve-O: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Leon Pawlowski.

Steve-O: Oh, that's a chameleon.

IGOTTADUMP: Nice, Steve!

Steve-O: Uh-huh. Yeah, i know. i remember Leon. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I'll be honest.

Steve-O: e

JohhnyCAGE: That was the most normal setting name.

IGOTTADUMP: I think that's like the hardest one on in here, bro. oh Oh, okay, okay. Boris Gorski.

Steve-O: Boris Gorski.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, Boris Gorski.

Steve-O: Is that a boar? Is that it like ah a ah like a warthog or a boar?

IGOTTADUMP: No? No, no. It's definitely not that.

Steve-O: No. Okay. Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: I'll give you one more.

JohhnyCAGE: Chris, can you can you post pictures or something? as

IGOTTADUMP: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: I swear to God you're making this up.

IGOTTADUMP: oh I'll do it after. i got one more.

IGOTTADUMP: Boris Gorski, Steve.

Steve-O: ah Do they have tusks?

IGOTTADUMP: ah Um... No, no.

Steve-O: No tusks.

IGOTTADUMP: It's actually, I think it's a Lynx.

Steve-O: Okay. Damn and damn Boris Gorski is a lynx.

IGOTTADUMP: And he's got a Lynx with glasses on.

Steve-O: Interesting.

IGOTTADUMP: All right, one more, Steve, one more.

Steve-O: That's interesting. Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: Luca Greco.

Steve-O: God damn it, Chris.

Steve-O: Luca Greco is...

IGOTTADUMP: Luca Greco!

Steve-O: um These names are phenomenal. Holy shit.

IGOTTADUMP: I know. who

Steve-O: um Is this some sort of like I want to say this is like some sort of snow animal.

IGOTTADUMP: like Shakespeare.

Steve-O: No? No, I give up.

IGOTTADUMP: I believe it's a toucan.

Steve-O: Okay. Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: i want to go with toucan.

Steve-O: Right.

IGOTTADUMP: Now, I took off the obvious ones like Falco and stuff, but this is the grouping I'm looking at right now.

Steve-O: right

Steve-O: That's funny. These names are wonderful.

IGOTTADUMP: And I was looking it up and I saw this and I was like, Steve, you got most of these, man.

Steve-O: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: I'll give you props. The Boris Gorski and Luca Greco. Like, i do who the fuck? How could you tell?

Steve-O: yeah I'm unfamiliar with some of these characters.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, this... ah Chris, i this might be like some fan site shit. cause like

IGOTTADUMP: Is this a fan site shit? I really don't know.

JohhnyCAGE: Because Marcus McCloud is the son... Looks like the son of...

IGOTTADUMP: yeah Well, thank God i didn't I didn't say Marcus McLeod or Crystal McLeod.

JohhnyCAGE: spot There's no way.

IGOTTADUMP: But yeah, this could be some fan shit.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, what? it the still

IGOTTADUMP: I really don't know.

JohhnyCAGE: boy

IGOTTADUMP: Character reference sheet.

Steve-O: Dude, nah, Marcus McCloud has a Nintendo wiki from Star Fox Command.

JohhnyCAGE: a

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, character reference sheet I did of Star Fox and original characters for a fan comic. So they were going to make a fan comic, but these are is a characters.

JohhnyCAGE: Marco Montes.

Steve-O: Dude, I really like some of these names, though.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, I Google i google that the fucking crocodile. I can't find this fucking thing. was like, this has to be tricked.

IGOTTADUMP: Marcus Marticella or Marcella, I don't know.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm about to chill. I did i can't. like Google's like, who are you talking about? The internet's like, who are you talking about?

IGOTTADUMP: Hey, you might see him in the new game.

Steve-O: But Leon Pawalski, that's real.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: I remember Leon.

IGOTTADUMP: What game is Leon in?

Steve-O: ah Star Fox 64, I believe.

IGOTTADUMP: Is he really? Jesus Christ.

Steve-O: Yep.

IGOTTADUMP: Wow.

Steve-O: I think he's one of the members of Star Wolf, maybe?

JohhnyCAGE: Leon?

IGOTTADUMP: I assume the Owl and Leon or Luca, they're from like other games, like not Star Fox 64.

Steve-O: There's a few games out there and it it kind of surprises me because they like, like you said, the past four games have definitely just been Star Fox 64 like remakes.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: So.

JohhnyCAGE: Or just Star Fox. Yeah, because Star Fox 64 is a remake of Star Fox, which isn't Zero remake of Star Fox.

Steve-O: Zero to remake of Star Fox 64.

JohhnyCAGE: And then this is a remake of Star Fox 64 again.

Steve-O: Hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: And then there's like Adventures and Dinosaur Planet. And then there's ah Command or whatever.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, this fucking... I don't like anybody.

Steve-O: But I'm like, that's the thing. They're like, hey, this is a game. It's $50. It's just Star Fox, because the problem with the last one, the one that they tried to put out for the Wii Star Fox Zero, was they build it up so much.

Steve-O: Miyamoto was like, I'm making Star Fox. It's going to use the touchscreen. And then everybody played it and was like, this sucks.

JohhnyCAGE: Yamamoto's a fucking, he's such a, he's such a weirdo. I get it. Like he, it's like his favorite thing that everybody's just like, dude, why are you so into this?

JohhnyCAGE: And he's like, no you don't understand.

Steve-O: It's he's he loves Pikmin and Star Fox.

JohhnyCAGE: love it.

Steve-O: And those are the two franchises that I think that he came up with that never made it to Mario and Link status. And he's just like he's just stuck in this.

IGOTTADUMP: trying

Steve-O: Like, how the fuck do I push these to get to that tier?

IGOTTADUMP: I think he's in well I think he's in the mindset like how the fuck do they not love this

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: And it's like weird because it's like we do a lot of people like Star Fox, but it's it's funny because he said something along the lines of he was like, oh, i I asked if they could do it.

JohhnyCAGE: And like to my surprise, they said yes. And it's like, yeah, because you're the boss. Like.

Steve-O: You're the guy. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, of course, we're going fucking say yes, asshole. Like.

JohhnyCAGE: Oddly, it's his most Lord driven IP to.

IGOTTADUMP: I bet you, i bet you though, every once in a while, I'll, I'll post photos or I'll pull out a photo of this new Fox and everybody kind of groans in the room. He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Steve-O: There go. Hmm.

IGOTTADUMP: wait wait wait wait Just let me, trust me.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, I think he's like like in his...

IGOTTADUMP: Everybody's going to fucking love this.

JohhnyCAGE: When he's at the salaryman bars and he's like, hold on. you guys You guys like him though, right? like You're not just saying it.

Steve-O: this is This is cool.

IGOTTADUMP: no no no here No, no, no, no,

Steve-O: This is cool, right?

JohhnyCAGE: You fuck it. He's a good idea, right? like He's not...

IGOTTADUMP: na a yeah yea an na nas No, No, no, no, no, I wouldn't, like, it's...

Steve-O: You know what's...

JohhnyCAGE: You're not fucking with me. I'll i'll fire you. oof We'll end your career, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: He's, like, fat, but, like, we love it.

Steve-O: He kind of looks like a corgi.

JohhnyCAGE: He's not too...

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, like, we love it.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I don't.

IGOTTADUMP: We love that.

JohhnyCAGE: Hmm.

Steve-O: He doesn't look as much as a fox, but like a corgi a little.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, I guess like visually I was like, ew, but I think the game itself looks cool.

Steve-O: Well, here's...

JohhnyCAGE: What do you think of the ah the V tubing thing?

Steve-O: here's the thing that's interesting. Um, yeah, yeah. Here's the thing that I've heard. I've heard that they made that first and that's why the characters look the way they do is they,

JohhnyCAGE: so because they have to be big enough to cover your face essentially

Steve-O: ah yeah, basically they had to like make the faces human shape sized, um, So like the malls are kind of pushed in or the muzzles are pushed in a little bit and ah the eyes are in like definitely more human places. um Like Slippy definitely, you know, is like a little bit weird, but.

Steve-O: ah

JohhnyCAGE: where would you um I saw that and I was like, that's so fucking...

Steve-O: e I, you know, here's the thing, Devin.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: it it It made me order a switch to camera. Because I think it would be really funny if I could pop into a chat as Fat Fox and just talk to you guys.

JohhnyCAGE: I want to know...

IGOTTADUMP: Uh-oh, what the hell are you doing?

JohhnyCAGE: none us have Switched 3, Steve.

Steve-O: Hey! Oh, my god

IGOTTADUMP: You know how tight that cockpit is?

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, man.

Steve-O: Oh, my God.

IGOTTADUMP: I can barely get out of it

JohhnyCAGE: Are you playing...

Steve-O: Oh, my God.

JohhnyCAGE: a

Steve-O: Oh, been hanging out with my Gia Cominabo. And that'll be good.

IGOTTADUMP: it. We've eating all the pasta.

Steve-O: Hey!

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

Steve-O: Hey! my goodness.

JohhnyCAGE: Are you playing Resident Evil Night Requiem? Oh, boy. I love that.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: know, that zombie chef, it but you you make some good...

Steve-O: i I think Big Pussy's been talking to the feds.

IGOTTADUMP: Ha ha ha ha

Steve-O: uh kyle bossman had an interesting take he said it's very funny to me that for years and years nintendo have been like nah story doesn't matter in games just have the adventure be its thing you're playing you're having fun and then this is the game where they're like oh by the way we could do like full-on cinematic graphics and cut scenes and like voiceovers

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: It's so strange to me.

Steve-O: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: It's like just Star Fox just evades the rules like no one who cares.

Steve-O: $50. I'll take it. Nintendo is, you know, I think that, cause that's the thing.

IGOTTADUMP: $50 Devin. Hmm.

Steve-O: I think they went, Oh fuck, man, we got to raise the price of our console from all of this fucking shit. Fucking AI jacking up the Ram prices, fucking Trump's tariffs.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, we got to call Luca Greco, dude.

Steve-O: Luca Greco needs to put a hit out. But before then, we're going to have to raise the consoles up and maybe we'll lower the games. Maybe we drop the games a little bit.

JohhnyCAGE: You know what? That's probably fair. I'll take that. I would gladly, well, let's not get crazy. I would be okay with spending $100 more dollars on a console if it meant all of the games dropped to $10.

Steve-O: I could agree with that.

JohhnyCAGE: You know?

Steve-O: I would buy more games.

JohhnyCAGE: That's 10 games. On my clip, that's that's fair.

Steve-O: In my head, hey, if if nobody's buying your games for your console, your console's basically as dead as Marco Montezello. You know, he's sleeping with the fishes.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, no.

IGOTTADUMP: Don't bring him up in front of me.

JohhnyCAGE: think

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, Marco, Luca, what a time. But then they ran into Boris Gorski, dude. don't know, man.

IGOTTADUMP: The mad Russian.

JohhnyCAGE: The Madden.

Steve-O: It's interesting, though, because it's like Fox and Wolf. They definitely gave like kind of Irish, like um Scottish names to.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, McLeod.

IGOTTADUMP: They're all Catholic.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: O'Donnell, McLeod. Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: They're all met at the same church.

Steve-O: The only way fucks it up is Slippy Toad.

IGOTTADUMP: Slippy...

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, yeah, because O'Hare, yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: No, you know, he's like Hesh on The Sopranos.

JohhnyCAGE: Lombardi? right It's Falco Lombardi, right?

Steve-O: faul off Falco Lombardi.

JohhnyCAGE: Big hockey fan.

Steve-O: Slippy Toad fucks it up.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah,

Steve-O: That would be like if you were named like Chris Human.

JohhnyCAGE: dude, Slippy Toad.

IGOTTADUMP: i I have no problem with that name.

JohhnyCAGE: no i don't know what's going on Slippy Toad, man.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm okay with that.

JohhnyCAGE: It's funky dude.

IGOTTADUMP: He could be like, like hash from the Speranos, you know, you gotta, you gotta have other groups of people in your crime family. Isn't that what this is

JohhnyCAGE: You know, I think this...

Steve-O: Do a barrel roll, Christopher!

IGOTTADUMP: who

JohhnyCAGE: I'll be honest, this is just a naked attempt. A bold attempt. Very blatant. To get the Sonic fandom into the Star Fox.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, I see. got that furry crossover.

JohhnyCAGE: They're trying to take that.

Steve-O: No, that's the thing, Devin.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: I think they've made them too gross.

JohhnyCAGE: No, but I'm saying they're going like, I think he's too gross. So I've created my own version.

IGOTTADUMP: i think i think it'll I think it'll mold the meta, to be honest.

Steve-O: Oh, interesting.

JohhnyCAGE: And then...

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: who Who wins?

Steve-O: I think that's the thing.

JohhnyCAGE: Who wins in a brawl?

Steve-O: We're in the...

JohhnyCAGE: Actually, I guess the Sonic.

Steve-O: we're in the oh

JohhnyCAGE: It's too... there's It's Legion, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Like, if the game is good, I think it'll affect the the furry meta.

JohhnyCAGE: Furry men is out of... Well, out of control?

Steve-O: they just They just become too real.

JohhnyCAGE: i don't want to say out of control, but...

Steve-O: They become too strong at that point.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it's...

Steve-O: Because then it's just like...

JohhnyCAGE: They're gonna get a... Their numbers are gonna get bloomed.

IGOTTADUMP: I think that's this is Miyamoto's plan.

JohhnyCAGE: Miyamoto coming out as a...

IGOTTADUMP: needs ah He needs an army.

JohhnyCAGE: At the very least, he's a furry supporter.

IGOTTADUMP: i but i percent

JohhnyCAGE: have to be, right? You can't just like...

IGOTTADUMP: that's it's pro 100%.

IGOTTADUMP: It's pro.

JohhnyCAGE: What's up?

Steve-O: i think he might be a foe.

IGOTTADUMP: I'd say no. Nintendo, I think, is pro furry.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, no. No, dude, because he's the man behind...

Steve-O: No, because he made these guys look fucking gross.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, but he's also like making them... again He's like shoving it. No one would push for this except for Miamondo.

IGOTTADUMP: I think he set the tone and now he's changing the the music.

Steve-O: I'm telling you, he's like, you know what?

JohhnyCAGE: You know, my favorite rumor, unsubstantiated rumor that I read was that this is secretly being developed by Ubisoft.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: And they're like, that it would explain the character designs. I was like, would it?

IGOTTADUMP: a

JohhnyCAGE: was like, I don't know, maybe. Maybe.

IGOTTADUMP: I don't believe that for a second.

JohhnyCAGE: And they're like, but now they're they're not going to tell anybody. I'm just saying, maybe maybe run Fox in that DLLS S5 filter.

IGOTTADUMP: I don't believe that.

Steve-O: Damn.

JohhnyCAGE: Maybe yossify him up a little.

Steve-O: Damn.

JohhnyCAGE: Well, it's just like like everyone else said, right?

Steve-O: Nah, he doesn't need it. He's beautiful.

JohhnyCAGE: It's like he um he looked really good. and Despite how garbage that fucking Mario Galaxy movie is. Fox McCloud's character design was pretty good.

JohhnyCAGE: It was that was actually quite... Like, there's nothing to complain about.

Steve-O: Yeah, he looked like Fox McCloud.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, and this guy just looks like he ate Fox McCloud.

Steve-O: Kevin, I'm bored. Devin, I'm bored with Fox McCloud.

JohhnyCAGE: All right, all right.

Steve-O: one has cared about Star Fox since 1992. Or 96,

JohhnyCAGE: hi yeah I f played a lot of it.

Steve-O: I guess.

JohhnyCAGE: When I had an N64, I didn't have...

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I owned like one n i in two N64 games and they're both WrestleMania and No Mercy.

Steve-O: Those are great games. Those are great games.

JohhnyCAGE: So I was at the whims of my friend Adam Klein who would bring over Star Fox. So I would play it, but I wasn't really...

Steve-O: You weren't allowed to play it.

JohhnyCAGE: I wasn't allowed to just like...

Steve-O: You'd watch him play it because that was a one-player game.

JohhnyCAGE: I watched him play a lot.

Steve-O: This one's out in a multiplayer mode, so you would have been able to play it as a kid had it had this mode, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. I could have.

Steve-O: Which is going to be wild because I'm going to be playing multiplayer and my face is going to be freaking Panther Caruso

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, is that magnificent pig runs around your entire Star Wolf Armada pig mouth?

IGOTTADUMP: yeah ah

Steve-O: Dude, it's to be wild seeing peppy hair being like, you fucking piece of shit. Fucking get off my ass. Get off my ass. I'm going to like, wow, this is.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah they it's probably going to be the first Nintendo game with a lot of F-bombs

Steve-O: lot of F-bombs, dude.

JohhnyCAGE: It

IGOTTADUMP: what the fuck you talking about she makes me happy she makes me happy

Steve-O: I can't let you do that, to you motherfucker.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm like, you're cloud doom.

Steve-O: Woke up this morning. Got an R-wing.

JohhnyCAGE: Got my... school

Steve-O: Got an R-wing in my eye.

IGOTTADUMP: I met somebody. I met somebody.

Steve-O: All right. So Star Fox coming out next month.

JohhnyCAGE: Star Fox. a yeah no Yeah. And again, I will never besmirch a game that gets announced and they're like, by the way, it's coming out in like six weeks.

JohhnyCAGE: You can't...

Steve-O: This was, you know, Vicious, Vicious, if you're listening to this, what's your deal, man?

JohhnyCAGE: How mad can you be?

JohhnyCAGE: what is What's his deal?

Steve-O: What's your deal?

JohhnyCAGE: I can't remember it.

Steve-O: You came to my defense on this one. You remember when I was like, wow, this came out of nowhere.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Steve-O: And Vicious was like, oh, they put it in a movie, really not out of nowhere. I'm like, no, this came out of fucking nowhere.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah.

Steve-O: Get off your fucking high horse and get into the dirt with me.

JohhnyCAGE: Nah, he's a... That's a high horse. No, you're right. I agree. you Get into the mud with Pigma.

Steve-O: Get in the mud with the mud, bro.

JohhnyCAGE: With Pigma Dengar.

Steve-O: people.

JohhnyCAGE: With Pigma Dendario Baratheon. Fucking goddamn. Yeah, um... Speaking of, dude, you know what's funny is like, there's a great Star Fox game waiting to come out.

IGOTTADUMP: I think I'm related to Falco Lombardi.

Steve-O: You know, she's dead. to

IGOTTADUMP: He's like someone in my family. Yeah,

JohhnyCAGE: And it's just, it's never going to happen if they stay. Like, unchar Naughty Dog could make the best Star Fox game ever

IGOTTADUMP: they're really good.

JohhnyCAGE: Because I do think he's just as cool out of the cockpit fucking throwing Chun-Li kicks and shooting things with his gun.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

Steve-O: oh yeah

JohhnyCAGE: Like, that's sick. And I get it. Like, they did that with Star Fox Adventures. It's just like, I don't... I think the the the game direction there was all off.

JohhnyCAGE: But, like, I don't think...

IGOTTADUMP: They got Falco with five Rico predicates.

JohhnyCAGE: You can get them out of the cockpit and it can be dope. And then they can get back in it. It doesn't have to just be them flying because they're too cool to not to just be stuck in the goddamn ships.

IGOTTADUMP: I think you could easily make like a ah cool Blade Runner-esque a game with Fox and like a legal animal tampering being the core focus of it.

Steve-O: I'm saying though with this with this dirty dog style that they're switching it up to this this is more doable they do look like bio mutant characters I agree

IGOTTADUMP: Like

JohhnyCAGE: You went real dark there.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, they look like, they look like biomutant characters.

IGOTTADUMP: Exactly.

IGOTTADUMP: Like it could be like this this experimentation that's going on that's like evil when he's trying to get to the bottom of it, you know?

JohhnyCAGE: So, like, the first one comes out and he's like, kill me! And then that's like, he's just like a little amalgamation and they're like, slugs don't get to fly planes, what's going on here?

JohhnyCAGE: And then you find out Andross has been...

IGOTTADUMP: And then cut the fox eating noodles while it's raining and they're like, we got to call you in.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: We got another run of

JohhnyCAGE: And that dog's like, we need the old McCloud back.

IGOTTADUMP: He haunts his own people.

Steve-O: This is interesting.

JohhnyCAGE: Dude, Star Wolf would be a sick fucking...

Steve-O: Oh, dude, Star Wolf could be their Shadow the Hedgehog.

IGOTTADUMP: I think Star Wolf would be like your your Roy Blatty in this scenario.

JohhnyCAGE: I've... that's what That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's Roy. um I do think Star Wolf might have been one of my very first, like...

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Realizations that, like... It's a trope, right? There's like Spider-Man to Venom, Star Fox to Star Wolf. was like, oh, this is like a thing. And I'm into like Star Wolf fucking rocks, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Steve-O: Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, he's got an eyepatch.

IGOTTADUMP: The eye patch and everything.

JohhnyCAGE: And once he Star Wolf, Star Wolf's inclusion in Smash Brothers Brawl made me go, this is the superior roster to Melee.

JohhnyCAGE: And then Ultimate came out and kind of broke it all, right?

Steve-O: i agree

JohhnyCAGE: But as whack as Brawl it kind of is as a game, that roster is fucking sick. It's just no one will ever talk about it now because Ultimate's a thing.

JohhnyCAGE: But, dude, that roster was something to be lauded, I think, during its time.

Steve-O: The bra one? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, dude. it's a Yeah, it's just everything else about the game fucking stunk. But, all right. You, ah Anybody have any other games they want to talk about? Should we kind of get to the...

IGOTTADUMP: I think we got a lot of news to to run down, bro

JohhnyCAGE: We got a lot of news.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: So let's...

Steve-O: Let's choose to choose through the news.

JohhnyCAGE: ah We'll chew through. i'll kind of go bottom up game wise because there's not that many game stories.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: So Sony, who's like, hey, we keep hearing all in in the news. how Xbox is doing things that's like not awful. And it's kind of slowly but surely getting goodwill back. How do we how do we stop that?

JohhnyCAGE: I know we should raise our own prices because fucking why not? Sony increases PlayStation Plus cost for new and lapsed subscribers.

JohhnyCAGE: why like why i don't know it's very stupid it's a dollar it's like not a lot but it's like why more we don't want more it's very obvious more is bad

Steve-O: i don't I don't know this. I saw that they also...

Steve-O: know It's such like a We're going to increase by $1. You're our most dedicated customers.

IGOTTADUMP: I think they got to pay the real Nathan Drake some money. Because he's real.

JohhnyCAGE: I hate it I hate it so much it's just I need one I need a hundred more fucking cents from you

Steve-O: I'll get off the couch, but I need one more dollar from everybody.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, that's fair. He's not. You're to make another video game about my life. need another dollar.

Steve-O: I ain't Falco Lombardi. I ain't doing this for cheap.

IGOTTADUMP: a

JohhnyCAGE: ah you You want that damage and stuff? You go down to Slippy Toad. Lombardi treatment.

Steve-O: Oh,

IGOTTADUMP: Now let me tell you the story about I found the people in the center of the world.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah

Steve-O: my God.

JohhnyCAGE: would you would you Would you believe it? Dinosaur Planet. It's crazy. I don't understand it.

IGOTTADUMP: I killed every one of them.

Steve-O: Every one of them. Oh, and by the way, in the center the world, there's a monsters. Monsters are real.

JohhnyCAGE: Also, did you know your dad is just you with aviators on?

IGOTTADUMP: and the dead.

JohhnyCAGE: It's wild. i had no idea.

Steve-O: That's wild. That's just you.

JohhnyCAGE: I didn't know that was like how dads were. I don't have a dad, but apparently it's a weird dad. That's crazy.

IGOTTADUMP: All I care, we're getting another Uncharted game.

JohhnyCAGE: every I didn't know everybody was like that.

IGOTTADUMP: about.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: But not for cheap.

IGOTTADUMP: i car about

JohhnyCAGE: Nathan's Nathan Drake's dad with aviators.

Steve-O: Not for cheap.

Steve-O: I can't let you do this, Nathan Drakefather.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

Steve-O: um

JohhnyCAGE: That's going to be a tough, that's a tough bit to drop. Fucking Starbucks Italian.

Steve-O: we're gonna We're going to keep doing Sony also announced that um they're no longer doing single player games for PC now.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. Okay. ah

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it was kind of, it was kind of like strongly rumored. And I think they basically confirmed that.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I think they said single player narrative games are not going to go on PC.

Steve-O: I think that's a smart move.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: That's smart. I think that's smart.

JohhnyCAGE: I think it kind of is too solely soly based on...

IGOTTADUMP: It'll get me to boot my PlayStation back up again.

Steve-O: Right, exactly.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, and also solely just based on the fact that they're like, listen, we had games on there and they weren't selling that well. So, like, why lose that prestige status for, like...

JohhnyCAGE: 400,000 copies of a game on that's sold on PC.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: It's like, just fucking just buy it. And you know, I'm not saying it's it's friendly, but it makes sense financially.

Steve-O: is the cost of like making a switch to version of Indiana Jones and the, the great big circle is is that going to beget having a real, it's a real big fucking circle.

IGOTTADUMP: Hmm. That circle's so big. It's fucking huge.

Steve-O: um

JohhnyCAGE: I better fly through that with my fucking pasta boat, my pasta wing.

IGOTTADUMP: God damn.

Steve-O: but well, I do a pasta roll.

IGOTTADUMP: ah ah

JohhnyCAGE: Oh. Yeah.

Steve-O: um But yeah, I don't i don't think they evened out. Because like you said, they like they don't they don't sell that many on the other on the other platforms.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah For whatever reason, like the PC snobs are very, and I, and I use that term intentionally. I think like,

Steve-O: You're right.

JohhnyCAGE: They're du're just fucking snobs the about it. I'm not going to play like fucking that PlayStation game on my Steam.

Steve-O: I've noticed PC gamers have a tendency to be like, whoa, this game is $12? I'll wait until it's $8.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. I've talked to them on this very podcast.

IGOTTADUMP: Well, they bathe they paid val

Steve-O: I don't know who you're talking about.

IGOTTADUMP: they paid thousands of dollars for their PC.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: deny

IGOTTADUMP: They got to some ROI, man.

JohhnyCAGE: well I'm in the hole right now.

Steve-O: i

JohhnyCAGE: You don't understand.

Steve-O: Come on, but is it front and slop though?

IGOTTADUMP: it

Steve-O: Then I'll play it.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah. So, ah yeah, I mean, i don't want to say it's like awesome, but as somebody who owns a PS5 Pro, i am I feel, no, I don't think it ever c clenched.

IGOTTADUMP: Your butt clenched up a little bit and you're, you're, or where I did and now it unclenched.

JohhnyCAGE: It's just like, cool.

IGOTTADUMP: Hmm. I think I clenched it.

JohhnyCAGE: I feel more, and it only unclenched once I realized I got in, I overpaid for a console before it got even more expensive.

Steve-O: Yes, which is weird, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: so

Steve-O: Dude, that's so weird. Like we paid for a console five years ago.

JohhnyCAGE: The worst trend in gaming.

Steve-O: i remember when we bought PS threes and then like the year later that thing dropped. Not anymore.

JohhnyCAGE: And it's, it's not just more expensive. It's like noticeably more.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: It's not like, ah, you know, it went 20 bucks. It's like, it's hundreds of dollars more money now. And it's,

Steve-O: It's like $600, $700. Noble

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, and not that i'm I'm rolling in it by any e stretch, but ah it's I have no interest in building any PC anytime soon because you're gravy, dude.

Steve-O: with RAM prices and shit.

JohhnyCAGE: No thank you. so and and And, you know, it's not really newsworthy, but people are like, oh my God, Sony said they don't know when they're going to come out with a new PS6.

Steve-O: Yeah. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: And I'm like, fuck, I don't... I'm good. They can't afford it.

Steve-O: they

JohhnyCAGE: I can't afford it. You know, so if Sony's like, dude, I don't know.

Steve-O: We can wait.

JohhnyCAGE: Like, you think I'm going to be able to fucking shoulder that? No, dude. Like, take your time. This generation is already infamous for not having a lot of, ah you know, output in terms of, like, first party or even super noticeable, like, notable games.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: So, like, I'm good with another two years with this fucking thing.

Steve-O: Yeah, I don't, I don't, do make it three, four or five.

IGOTTADUMP: Like you guys didn't do enough yet.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, you didn't do because it's like I don't know.

Steve-O: Yeah, like I don't.

IGOTTADUMP: not. um i'm a

JohhnyCAGE: People, they keep talking about how they're like figuring out how to get the the pipeline to move quick quicker. It hasn't happened yet, but if it does then let's stay here.

JohhnyCAGE: Let's stay here for a little bit longer.

Steve-O: Yeah. What are the legendary exclusive PS5 games that released?

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, what are those games?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, dude, I have no fucking clue.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Like legendary. I mean, like, listen, I will say Astro Bot is still phenomenal, but like.

Steve-O: Astro Bot. I'll even count um God of War, Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: um

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, OK, Spider-Man 2, think um ah Ghost of Yote, I think is definitely worth it.

Steve-O: Dark Souls was cool. Yote, that's fair. um But I feel like, you know, we're we're kind of struggling to put like five on one hand. PS4, dude, we could go hog wild.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Returnal, Saros just came out. um Death Stranding, even though I think that's...

IGOTTADUMP: I think that came out on Steam, too, didn't it?

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know where that's at.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it might have.

Steve-O: um

JohhnyCAGE: It might have. it might have Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah, a few of these are on Steam, but, you know, um being lenient I'm being

JohhnyCAGE: Gran Turismo.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: I'm being figuring.

JohhnyCAGE: Horizon, here even though those are those are on PC and sold fucking 20 copies, so...

Steve-O: um might be I might be jumping a bit here, but it's tied to the PlayStation talks. um Sony reported that Bungie has been a big loss leader.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, they really ah threw them under the bus, didn't they?

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: um Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: They're getting ready to... Getting

JohhnyCAGE: They... They call it a, the official term is a impairment loss.

IGOTTADUMP: ready to...

JohhnyCAGE: And what that means is essentially they were like, we paid, i think $2.3 billion dollars um for, for Bungie, which is a lot of money. I think we can all admit that overpaid.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't think anyone saw that was like, what a steal. Yeah. And an impairment loss is basically they're like, we paid this much. um Whatever we paid for, this is now worth this much now. And it's $765 million dollars less than that. So billion minus at. Um,

JohhnyCAGE: seven hundred and sixty five million they're like this is where we're at um So they're like, we're taking a big bath on this. It's still worth some money. um It's just, we lost almost a billion dollars of, of worth out of that. And oddly, no layoffs, um not no major layoffs from marathon or from Bungie and,

JohhnyCAGE: I think, honestly, it's because they're super hesitant because they want to get their fucking money back um in some form or fashion from Bungie.

Steve-O: Right.

Steve-O: That's a weird catch 22 where it's like you have lost us so much money.

JohhnyCAGE: us Yeah, because they can't gut the studio.

Steve-O: If we got you, then we have just completely just wasted that money that we spent.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: And they don't... I think they're more hesitant to gut it financially for financial reasons than they are to kill Bungie, which would be... I think kind of a landmark closure, you know, and it's like Sony killed bugs.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: You what the fuck?

Steve-O: You know what?

JohhnyCAGE: But it's.

Steve-O: Lean into it lean it. Be like, we killed your guy, Xbox.

JohhnyCAGE: You fuck. We fucking bought that bitch and I fuck.

Steve-O: We made him squeal!

IGOTTADUMP: That's poor Joker.

Steve-O: um

IGOTTADUMP: That's a pure Joker move right there.

JohhnyCAGE: It's like a real evil villain type shit.

IGOTTADUMP: poor joker that's a be jokeer right there

Steve-O: but

JohhnyCAGE: yeah

Steve-O: ah

JohhnyCAGE: um But it's. I think the only, I'm not saying Sony's ah innocent in all this, but I think a lot of people don't really go like, man, Bungie really got fucked over by Sony.

JohhnyCAGE: It's like, Bungie has just been gotten worse and worse over the years.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Because, sorry, 3.6 billion.

Steve-O: You did a discussion about that where you were like, Halo, real big into story and lore, and then Destiny, I don't know as much.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Ironically, too much story because by the time Halo 3 came out, don't think only thing anybody cared about the story, but like Bungie cared. And that is something i appreciate.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm like, you know what? I still appreciate that they're going for it. Like they want to tell a story and that's cool.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: And then, and Halo is the biggest thing in in the world at that time.

Steve-O: Right.

JohhnyCAGE: Destiny comes out. And it's it's kind of a fifty fifty really more multiplayer than story, but like it's it's melded in there. And still pretty popular, but it's it's no longer what it was.

JohhnyCAGE: And now Marathon seems to be mostly multiplayer. Granted, I haven't played a second of Marathon, but seems mostly multiplayer-based. There's no real shared lore story happening, except in very small... ah features and and marathons by far smaller than destiny was, which is a magnitude smaller than that.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: And it's like, what's the correlation? And it's like, maybe you guys ah just stop giving a fuck about people that would be interested in um playing a game for a

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: And it's, I don't know, man.

Steve-O: I remember playing Destiny 1 and being genuinely like shocked. that there was like no, no attempt to even try and explain what was going on outside of like online entries that you had to collect and read on their website.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, it's ah it was always stupid. But I don't know, man.

IGOTTADUMP: What about Peter Dinklage?

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, yeah, that's right.

Steve-O: That wizard came from the moon.

JohhnyCAGE: It's the guy with...

Steve-O: He's a bad voice actor. I'm sorry, Peter Dinklage. You're a great actor, but like. Maybe you just don't know how to be directed while like in just like a booth.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, don't translate well.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: I think, I think, they I think, um, what's his name?

IGOTTADUMP: Don't translate well.

JohhnyCAGE: Marty McDonald explained it kind of. He was just like, the story kept changing. Cause like they couldn't commit to a plot essentially.

JohhnyCAGE: And, uh, he was just like, he was getting pages that were like a day old in terms of like what the script was. And then at that point, the I think the voice director was like, I don't fucking know, man.

JohhnyCAGE: Just say the word. like he hadn't the He was like, he didn't even know.

Steve-O: You think they were just like all annoyed? They were just all annoyed in the booth that day?

JohhnyCAGE: i think I think it got of turned into that. They were like, dude, like I don't know what to tell you because I don't fucking know what's going on. so

Steve-O: tell you what, if it was Robin Williams, it would have been legendary.

JohhnyCAGE: But dude, yeah. Yeah. You know who would have made that infinitely cooler? Robin Pistachio. No one is...

Steve-O: the fuck is Robin Pistachio?

JohhnyCAGE: except Sorry. Robin Mustachio.

Steve-O: I'm a Robin, by the way, if you can't tell from my name.

JohhnyCAGE: Have you noticed my mech suit, Batman?

Steve-O: Batman.

JohhnyCAGE: All right. I like how I was like, we need to get away from this. And then I bring it back in the worst way. Okay. um We talked about Marvel Cosmic. Okay, let's get into some amount TV movie stuff. And again, we're a few weeks old, but ah there was a Kate Fear trailer.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know how you guys feel about a Cape Fear Apple TV series.

Steve-O: You said you needed a reason for Apple TV, Devin.

JohhnyCAGE: This is not it, even though I really like Cape Fear.

IGOTTADUMP: Is Amy Ryan Robert De Niro?

JohhnyCAGE: No. um um no

IGOTTADUMP: Or out Amy Adams, excuse me.

JohhnyCAGE: she's um She's the lawyer.

IGOTTADUMP: She's the prosecutor.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: She's the lawyer. Hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: And Javier Bardem is...

IGOTTADUMP: i think

JohhnyCAGE: Is ah the... is Yeah, it's the castings, not bad. It's just like, okay, let's go. um Cool news for a cool guy, Matthew Lillard added to Superman 2, Man of Tomorrow.

JohhnyCAGE: Pretty sick.

Steve-O: That's great. I think people, after what Quentin Tarantino said about him, I think people have been on a like, oh, come on, man.

IGOTTADUMP: Paul Dano. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: You know what's funny?

Steve-O: Let's put him in our thing.

JohhnyCAGE: is i Is I never heard what he said about Matthew Lillard. I heard of what he said about... um

IGOTTADUMP: paul dana

JohhnyCAGE: Paul Dano never heard what he said about Matthew Lillard.

Steve-O: It was all the same sentence. like Literally, he listed he listed three actors.

JohhnyCAGE: It's basically the same.

Steve-O: and

JohhnyCAGE: Oh man. Who was the third one who gets no love?

Steve-O: Paul Lillard.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: um I'll look it up real quick, but you keep going.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. You look it up. Uh, we got evil dead burn trailer. Um,

IGOTTADUMP: I saw that um trailer recently. i didn't, you know, I don't know why I didn't see it up until this week. That looks really good.

JohhnyCAGE: looks good right it kind of gives me um like re7 hillbilly killer vibes right yeah so and even though i think i was slightly disappointed rise like i just really like how some phantoms can be snobs i feel like evil dead fans are like whatever dude hell yeah i'm in like we're just happy to get more yeah

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: because there's a lot going on in that trailer. It's just brutal as fuck.

Steve-O: We're just happy.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah.

Steve-O: We're just happy to have it a

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, that this looks right up that alley.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm okay with that.

JohhnyCAGE: um

Steve-O: a good...

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm. The third actor was Owen Wilson.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Listen, i enjoy me Owen Wilson, but no one's come to his defense, and I feel that's bit odd.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah

Steve-O: No.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: That's a bit strange. Maybe they're like, he doesn't need it. He's in those fucking Wes Anderson movies.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah

Steve-O: know He's got a famous brother who will take care

JohhnyCAGE: He's in those Wes Anderson movies. He's fine. um The Odyssey trailer. I saw this. I liked it. Although I didn't really think about it after, but this fell into the internet thing of, I think personally, trying to fucking rage bait click farm by talking about how bad this looks.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm in.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh yeah. Of course. It's

JohhnyCAGE: And I'm like, are we talking about the same director and trailer that?

IGOTTADUMP: all generated by Elon Musk's bots.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh yeah. That's part of it too. Right. I mean, yeah, it's just like,

IGOTTADUMP: This is what all this is.

JohhnyCAGE: I don't know. Maybe we just go with the body of work. Maybe we just go, oh, it's Christopher Nolan who rarely has misses, if any.

IGOTTADUMP: Maybe we just go that this is a fantastical story featuring Cyclopses and Hydras and it doesn't really matter whose who.

JohhnyCAGE: Yes. i The only thing i will say was a bit strange were the American accents and

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, that is

IGOTTADUMP: yeah that is a little weird. I'll give you that.

JohhnyCAGE: and And there's a scene where Tom Holland's like, my dad's going to come back.

IGOTTADUMP: little jarry.

JohhnyCAGE: And I was like, that's fucking weird. That's a weird. Like, wait till my dad gets over. He says something like, not your father. and I do think tinfoil hat is it's because Matt Damon's like, I have no ability to do a ah British accent.

IGOTTADUMP: My dad's coming home.

JohhnyCAGE: So I'm just not going to try.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah That's controlled the whole production.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm wondering how much of that's like that. David's like, dude, I can't do. I just can't do it. So it'd be weird, right?

IGOTTADUMP: I'm, again, it's a myth. It could be told in many different ways.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Fuck it. Right. Yeah. We're talking about Cyclops.

IGOTTADUMP: it it's been told in many different ways.

JohhnyCAGE: cause

IGOTTADUMP: Shit. Oh, no. Oh brother. Where art thou is literally the odyssey.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. I just, uh, yeah, it's just, yeah. People are like, this looks terrible. And I'm like, okay, cool. Sure, dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Let's see what they're going to do. Let's see what, what he's got.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Let's see what this American myth of the odyssey is going to be. Cause that's what it is

JohhnyCAGE: Well, Chris, I want you to keep, I want you to take that. i want you to take that vibe, that energy and keep it because Peacock's developing a Fast and Furious TV series. So keep that positivity.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, Vin Diesel. Hello, I'm Vin Diesel.

JohhnyCAGE: Vindy Tell.

IGOTTADUMP: Frenchman Supreme.

JohhnyCAGE: I think the the best response to this I heard was like, hey, can we just get that last movie instead? Like we don't need, we don't need that. we I just want to see the last movie. Can we do that?

IGOTTADUMP: they can't They can't go any higher than space. I think they're starting to realize that now.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, but like literally not that I care, but I do because I have a sickness, but they ended it's on a cliffhanger.

IGOTTADUMP: I know it is.

JohhnyCAGE: is

IGOTTADUMP: So what?

JohhnyCAGE: I need to know how it ends as stupid as it can be. I just need to know.

IGOTTADUMP: And Diesel's stuck in that little tube and he can't get out, right?

JohhnyCAGE: oh

IGOTTADUMP: Is that what happened?

JohhnyCAGE: You know what? I almost don't remember.

IGOTTADUMP: I made that up.

JohhnyCAGE: No.

IGOTTADUMP: I don't know.

JohhnyCAGE: no um Lobo... Lobo blew up the dam.

IGOTTADUMP: Steve told me he was stuck in a tube.

JohhnyCAGE: He blew up, like, the Hoover Dam or something. As if Vin Diesel can't drive his way out of that problem. But still.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, that's easy. It's water. You can drop on water.

JohhnyCAGE: But, you know... I just thought... Thought they'd just be further along.

IGOTTADUMP: He'll be fine. Devin, he'll be fine.

JohhnyCAGE: Alright, alright.

IGOTTADUMP: He'll be fine.

JohhnyCAGE: um This trailer i do think looks sick. Wildwood trailer. By Laika... Laika Studios. It's the guy who did Coraline. It's the guy who did Kubo and the Two Strings.

IGOTTADUMP: Familiar with Cuba.

JohhnyCAGE: um Yeah. they I think this is like more CG than stop motion, but it looks in that stop motion vibe, which...

IGOTTADUMP: They captured it in computer generated effects.

JohhnyCAGE: I mean, I don't know, man. I'm just... Yeah, they they they they captured the vibe. um'm I'm pretty bricked up about it, we'll say.

JohhnyCAGE: um Batman 2 gets official cast announcements of Scarlett Johansson, Sebastian Stan.

IGOTTADUMP: Woo.

IGOTTADUMP: Sebastian Stan Two-Face.

JohhnyCAGE: um I think the the rumor is Stan's dent, right?

IGOTTADUMP: The rumor is...

JohhnyCAGE: I think that's the rumor.

IGOTTADUMP: Not only is he dead, but there is no origin.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

IGOTTADUMP: he is Two-Face in the beginning.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, just, okay. Okay. And Scarlett Johansson is just going to be somebody who's beautiful on screen.

IGOTTADUMP: Off the off get. brah

IGOTTADUMP: Now they're going to introduce Three-Face, which is something that they didn't really do too much in the Batman comics.

JohhnyCAGE: oh that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense, actually.

Steve-O: Three minutes.

IGOTTADUMP: But he's really something. So hope guys are prepared.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. Um. ah shock This dropped today, and I was actually pleasantly surprised. Lantern's ah official teaser to this.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, didn't see this.

JohhnyCAGE: this um This has allayed some of my concerns of like, man, you know, to be really annoying is Green Lantern being in a fucking Yellowstone type environment and for some reason can't solve the problem within 10 seconds because he's Green Lantern.

JohhnyCAGE: Like that's been a concern from the other trailer. um This shows a little bit more superhero isms happening. And I was just like, oh, sick.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm down. And then we got something I'm actually down on. I'm officially out, guys. I'm out.

Steve-O: You're out. You're done.

JohhnyCAGE: Her Private Hell by Nicholas Wining Refn.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, Devin. Oh, I'm not.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm dude, I'm out.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, oh, I'm not. Oh, oh, I'm not.

JohhnyCAGE: I'm out. I betcha it's going to be weird, it's going to nonsensical, and it's going to have a stupid ending.

IGOTTADUMP: Oh.

IGOTTADUMP: The premise of the film is it is a dystopian future in which there is a strange fog that causes people to go insane.

JohhnyCAGE: Listen, I'd be psyched if that was literally any other director.

Steve-O: Hmm. Hmm.

IGOTTADUMP: ah

JohhnyCAGE: I really would. I'd be like, wow that's that sounds sick. This is going be weird, and

IGOTTADUMP: I am in.

JohhnyCAGE: uh i'm not listen i hope it's good but i i will not be excited for it how about that i i can't um yeah i might do that well i'm going i'm not gonna have fun i've done worse i've seen worse dude yeah um what's interesting i didn't realize this but uh apparently um well one this is his first movie in a minute i think it's been like

IGOTTADUMP: This awesome.

IGOTTADUMP: You can come to the movies with your arms folded. That'll be funny.

Steve-O: Hmm.

IGOTTADUMP: and

JohhnyCAGE: 10 years or something since the last movie. But apparently he, he had some serious health issues. He said he was dead for 20 minutes.

IGOTTADUMP: Yes, I think...

Steve-O: Whoa.

JohhnyCAGE: He had a, he had like a heart valve league gigs or something guide and then had to like relearn how to fucking walk and stuff.

IGOTTADUMP: Yep, some genetic issue.

Steve-O: Oh, damn.

JohhnyCAGE: So he's like, he got, I guess, reinvigorated to like make movies again.

IGOTTADUMP: Fuck yes.

JohhnyCAGE: So I'll be honest, that part's interesting.

IGOTTADUMP: Great story.

JohhnyCAGE: But also that makes me think he's not, he's going to go, I give even less of a fuck.

IGOTTADUMP: Great story.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah

IGOTTADUMP: Oh, then I'm in even harder.

JohhnyCAGE: i could die I could die at any point. Why well why do I care about with sensical plot?

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah. Yep.

JohhnyCAGE: Another movie, I am actually, I hope is good.

IGOTTADUMP: yep

JohhnyCAGE: This trailer for the movie Hope. It is made by the director's name. I cannot remember off the top of my head, but it's the guy who did The Wailing, which is an all-timer for me, to be honest.

IGOTTADUMP: Now, Devin, I've heard both, I've heard a good review, a great review, and a terrible review for this.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. So, i will say, not to be biased against weird horror comics

JohhnyCAGE: Korean, Vietnamese, ah you know, and space. ah Aliens is an interesting take.

IGOTTADUMP: It is.

JohhnyCAGE: And it doesn't look bad. It looks action-packed, which might be a problem.

IGOTTADUMP: I heard an action masterpiece and I heard a poorly scripted CGI mess.

JohhnyCAGE: Really? Ooh.

IGOTTADUMP: That's the two reviews.

JohhnyCAGE: It could be, but that's, you know what that sounds like? That sounds like one James Cameron or a Michael Bay.

IGOTTADUMP: A mix.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: You know what I mean? It's like both things can be true.

IGOTTADUMP: It

JohhnyCAGE: um The trailer is pretty sick.

IGOTTADUMP: looks cool.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. um

IGOTTADUMP: It looks a little like, if I'm honest, it looks a little like, oh my god, what is it?

JohhnyCAGE: Quiet Place.

IGOTTADUMP: No, yeah, Quiet Place, thank you.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay. Yeah. Um, no, dude, like, yeah. Nay Hong Jin, um, who did the whaling yellow sea and the chaser. I haven't seen any of those other ones.

JohhnyCAGE: I've only seen the whaling.

IGOTTADUMP: I did like that giant weird Elder Achar thing they had in the trailer. It was like that man with the crab legs.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh yeah. Yeah. Um, no, dude, like,

IGOTTADUMP: That was cool. Don't

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, shit. Shit, yeah. In the remote South Korean village of Hope Harbor, police chief and officer sung are called to find a mysterious creature. Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Cadre of hunters.

IGOTTADUMP: love me a good crab, man. i always said that.

Steve-O: You know, that's a real good thing.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. What begins as ignorant plants that seed.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, it's hard not to like a good crab, man. It's like how Devin likes mechs.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, that's a good, that's a good weak spot to have crab men.

IGOTTADUMP: I like a good... lincoln do

Steve-O: Crab people, crab people.

IGOTTADUMP: i like... Yeah, whenever is a good like representation of a half-man, half-crustacean, or scorpion, I'm in.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

JohhnyCAGE: So you like the Scorpene King.

IGOTTADUMP: I like the CGI. Well, yeah I could be as nitpicky as you about this, that would

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

Steve-O: ah He liked the book more than the movie..........

IGOTTADUMP: the book written by by Cormac McCarthy uh is uh it's incredible but um no the CGI

JohhnyCAGE: you you fucking leapt head first in that pool.

IGOTTADUMP: the CGI for the Scorpion King in the mummy 2 mummy uh that is quite awful that's didn't pick that pretty hard

JohhnyCAGE: You know what? I will admit it is bad, but I don't think it's like the worst ever. People, i think, overhate that.

IGOTTADUMP: Now, i do I can nitpick even more. It can't be like a crab man or a lobster man with a human face. It's a different thing. Okay? It needs to have the torso of a man.

IGOTTADUMP: The body of a crab.

JohhnyCAGE: But i the head of a crab, though.

Steve-O: Yeah, you just named the body twice.

IGOTTADUMP: No. No.

JohhnyCAGE: He said torso in the body.

Steve-O: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: dude I'm so fucking cool.

IGOTTADUMP: Well, like the torso and the legs of a crab.

JohhnyCAGE: He needs a fort.

IGOTTADUMP: Like centaur style.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: It can't just be like a face on a...

JohhnyCAGE: But what's his what's that mug look like? Is it a human mug or no?

IGOTTADUMP: yeah yeah, it's human. It's like a centaur.

Steve-O: But like, it's got a claws for hands, right?

JohhnyCAGE: still like this So like the so like this Scorpion King.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, it's a claws.

JohhnyCAGE: You're just describing exactly the Scorpion

IGOTTADUMP: Kinda. i Also, Clash of the Titans. They're featured in that.

JohhnyCAGE: King. Okay. All right.

Steve-O: I think the idea, though, I'm not as big a fan of the scorpion part because once you defeat a scorpion, you can't eat good. When you defeat a crab person, you're eating good.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm going be honest. I ate a scorpion before.

Steve-O: That's fucking wild, Chris, and disgusting.

IGOTTADUMP: So I'm going to say I'm going to rebuke your claim.

Steve-O: You know what, Devin? I'm going to allow you to roast fucking vampire crawlers for the next hour and a half now.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, thank you.

IGOTTADUMP: yeah

JohhnyCAGE: Thank you.

Steve-O: Yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: You know what? Scorpion bodies are the snobs of...

IGOTTADUMP: You know, I think we ran a pretty long podcast about now.

JohhnyCAGE: just

IGOTTADUMP: i That'd be a good time to to wrap it up, you know?

JohhnyCAGE: Are they... Wait, sorry. Last question. Are they allowed to... Do they have to have, like, pincers or can they have human hands?

IGOTTADUMP: um They can have both, but it it has to, yeah, yeah, it could be one-in-one, like Goro style, but like that torso, that human torso is is important, is important to us.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay, so maybe one in one?

Steve-O: Oh,

Steve-O: A hand for Shaken and a hand for Klawin.

JohhnyCAGE: Oh, um we're we're at this stage. i think I think we can spoil this. You can ask me if you care about the fate of one Cole Young from Mortal Kombat 2.

IGOTTADUMP: Is he dead?

Steve-O: Oh, how did Cole do?

JohhnyCAGE: um Not well. He was killed very unceremoniously.

IGOTTADUMP: He dead.

IGOTTADUMP: he

JohhnyCAGE: and it was quite funny, actually.

IGOTTADUMP: I knew it.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: fucking knew it, man.

Steve-O: and this

JohhnyCAGE: He gets, a to be fair, he kind of gets his flowers a little bit because he kills Shao Kahn. But at this point in the film, Shao Kahn has like an invincibility spell on him. So he just like read his skin re-knits. So his throat that gets slashed doesn't. And then he just smashes Cole Young's head with a hammer. And they're on the acid stage in Mortal Kombat 2.

Steve-O: Okay.

JohhnyCAGE: So then Shalkan very disrespectfully just shoves his headless corpse into the acid pit with his hammer. Like he's mopping. And it's... it was It was fairly disrespectful. And I was like, God damn.

JohhnyCAGE: I actually felt a little bad for Cole Young, even though he does objectively stink.

Steve-O: That's funny.

Steve-O: That sounds like it might win me over because I, you know, I gave that first movie a lambasting for that choice.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah, no, it's...

Steve-O: So.

JohhnyCAGE: a Dude, I mean, goes ghost see Obsession first.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm glad he's dead.

JohhnyCAGE: Don't see Mortal Kombat.

IGOTTADUMP: Okay. Mortal

JohhnyCAGE: what do you think What do you think I'm talking about, Chris?

IGOTTADUMP: Kombat 2. Of course.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah. He died.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm going to see that first. And I can't wait to see Cole die.

JohhnyCAGE: Now, i am do you know do you know how like upsetting that would make me?

Steve-O: in obsession yeah Look, I was asked to go, Devin.

IGOTTADUMP: In Obsession.

JohhnyCAGE: Like how bummed I'd be?

IGOTTADUMP: What?

JohhnyCAGE: so That would be like to trigger me specifically. Oh, yeah, i went to the movies. I saw Mortal Kombat 2.

IGOTTADUMP: That would be so brutal, wouldn't it?

JohhnyCAGE: i i'd be I'd be like, I'd take it personally. i mean, you're a fucking you're a fucking bad friend.

IGOTTADUMP: It was dog shit. What if I said that the whole thing.

JohhnyCAGE: You're a bad fucking friend. Dude's bad.

Steve-O: Devin, I was asked to go. I'm sorry.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: it was like, it was the mob thing. i don't want to get into it.

Steve-O: Me and Panther Caruso.

JohhnyCAGE: Yeah.

IGOTTADUMP: Panther had me by the fucking balls, man. Trust me, I don't want to get into it, but had to go and it was awful.

JohhnyCAGE: yeah Marco, Marc Gicelli.

IGOTTADUMP: I owe him a lot of money.

JohhnyCAGE: This is real bad, dude. Let's see where we're back.

IGOTTADUMP: Yeah, it's not good.

Steve-O: Devin, don't sweat him. It's me, Slippy Toad.

IGOTTADUMP: Fuck, go.

JohhnyCAGE: Okay.

IGOTTADUMP: Now, drive. It's like uncut gems.

Steve-O: Don't worry about him, Devin.

IGOTTADUMP: Basically, it's uncut gems, but I'm just being followed around by anamorphous animals.

JohhnyCAGE: I think Slippy Tone's like, hey, where's my fucking money, Chris?

Steve-O: ha.

IGOTTADUMP: deliver

Steve-O: Chris.

IGOTTADUMP: Shut the fuck up, Slippy! Leave me alone!

JohhnyCAGE: I'll kill you and yos I'll slaughter you and your family.

Steve-O: Oh, you sound just like your father did.

IGOTTADUMP: betting on Fox!

IGOTTADUMP: Falco's throwing me my own trunk of my car.

JohhnyCAGE: dude.

IGOTTADUMP: Maked.

JohhnyCAGE: He's like, he just sold his, he said, Hey, I need you to hold onto this. I'll wing pigma Dengar. I'll hold on to it for two days and no longer.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm gonna come.

JohhnyCAGE: Then it's mine. All right.

Steve-O: Chris, we got to go to the Pine Barrens.

JohhnyCAGE: I got to go.

IGOTTADUMP: I'm

Steve-O: but my god

JohhnyCAGE: and

Steve-O: All right, this episode's done. So we will ah we be back next week. And until then, see

JohhnyCAGE: Go see obsession.

Steve-O: trustees Obsession. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

JohhnyCAGE: That's the rule.

IGOTTADUMP: i'm in got me i'm obsessed

Steve-O: See ya.