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Introductions and Personal Anecdotes
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BeyBlade
Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy Podcast for the week of December 21st, 2025. Do you hear snow bells? Do you hear a wringling and a jingling?
00:00:13
BeyBlade
Well, that's just me coughing in your ear because I'm feeling slightly under the weather. My name's Devin Kovek. With me, a much healthier Steve Oteri.
00:00:21
Steve-O
I hear ringing in my ears. I think I might have tinnitus.
00:00:24
BeyBlade
Oh, God, ah the healthiest, Chris Kalani.
00:00:28
billfrankenstein
I hear nothing.
00:00:30
BeyBlade
And the grifter of podcasters, John Suarez.
00:00:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Mmm. Yeah, I'm a little sick.
00:00:37
BeyBlade
Big week for you, John.
00:00:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm a little sick.
00:00:38
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:00:39
Steve-O
Under the weather.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
00:00:41
billfrankenstein
Now he's going to push his multivitamin on on all of us because he's not feeling well.
00:00:42
BeyBlade
Yeah.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
You know how it is.
00:00:47
BeyBlade
No, i dude, I'm in the same boat.
00:00:47
billfrankenstein
Take John's multi.
00:00:48
Steve-O
Suarez Chewables.
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BeyBlade
I think ah as today has crawled on, i had a like a horrible day yesterday. Absolutely. like It was so bad, dude. I was in bed by 4 p.m. out of rage.
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BeyBlade
Because it was like I had a really bad day and then I walked by my car that had a parking ticket on it.
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billfrankenstein
ho ya who
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, rough.
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BeyBlade
And I was like, dude, dude.
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Steve-O
Hmm.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, that's that's it.
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BeyBlade
And then I just like just fucking...
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billfrankenstein
I had one of those days in Philly too.
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BeyBlade
I moved my car and i was like, we were supposed to go out.
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billfrankenstein
i can understand.
00:01:19
BeyBlade
And I was like, yo, I'm just going to go to bed. Like um I've had it.
00:01:23
Steve-O
That's the cherry on top.
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BeyBlade
And tu it was like 430 the afternoon.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Was it a ticket from outside your apartment or?
00:01:30
BeyBlade
No, no. I had to park in a weird spot because no one leaves um my street, apparently, the week of Christmas, which is like understandable, I guess.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
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BeyBlade
ah So unfortunately, i just... And you know what sucked is I had to... It's all my fault because I had to get my wallet. I left my wallet in my car like an asshole. Grabbed it and I was like, I should move my car. And i was like, no, move it later. And then...
Boxing Critique and Humor
00:01:58
BeyBlade
Had a rough trip walking around Philly and then ah came back to a...
00:02:03
Steve-O
Like you fell down?
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BeyBlade
No, no. it was just like tired and just not in a great mood because I'm Christmas shopping on fucking December 20th.
00:02:08
Steve-O
Oh.
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billfrankenstein
You didn't get a turkey stuck on your head, did you?
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BeyBlade
No turkey stuck on my head. No Mr.
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billfrankenstein
Okay.
00:02:16
BeyBlade
Beans happened.
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Steve-O
Did you drive around a tiny car with like a broom on the roof?
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billfrankenstein
That's all I think about, Steve, with his car.
00:02:24
BeyBlade
No, no, no.
00:02:24
billfrankenstein
That's all I think about.
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BeyBlade
Listen, i was i was I was walking and Jenny's like, I think you have a ticket on your car. And I was like, that's so wonderful.
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billfrankenstein
You can't put a fucking reclining seat on the top of your car, Devin. That's what the ticket said.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
You can't drive it with ropes, Devin.
00:02:39
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:02:40
Steve-O
It's a ticket from Jetty. You can't...
00:02:42
BeyBlade
And then ah yeah and then i I woke up today and I was like, I don't feel that great. And then 9 p.m. tonight, I'm like, oh, I'm going to I'm going to die.
00:02:54
BeyBlade
i think I think I might be dead by the end of this one.
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billfrankenstein
Oh, shit. Is that bad?
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Steve-O
That's rough.
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BeyBlade
Yeah. Well, you know, my i think my health was tied to Jake Paul. And then, yeah, once his jaw exploded.
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billfrankenstein
Oh, once he saw his jaw explode, you...
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Steve-O
Hmm...
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, thank God.
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BeyBlade
And then Andrew Tate lost. I was like, oh, my God, all my heroes, you know?
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
He fought? and That fucking idiot fought?
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah.
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BeyBlade
you fought He fought some weird dude who I've never seen before.
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Steve-O
My god. Hello?
00:03:17
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I wonder what the cop the cope is going to be, like what he's going to say, he lost.
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billfrankenstein
Apparently, or I did see a ah clip of that fight and it was like, you know, I watched some of the Jake Paul fight and I was like, ah' it's competent boxing on on one side and really good boxing on the other.
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BeyBlade
Hmm.
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BeyBlade
it Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
And I watched some of the Andrew Tate fight and I was like, and neither of these motherfuckers can can throw a punch properly.
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BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. it was pretty bad. I didn't, I didn't see the entertain one, but so I was watching, ah I was trying to watch fallout. think Jenny fell asleep and I'm like midway through the episode and my friend Borden was our friend Borden was like, yeah, this fight stinks.
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BeyBlade
And I was like, what? And I thought the the boxing fight was on Saturday. So I fired up and I just caught the last round and a half, which is if that's if that if there's an an amount of two of time to watch that fight, that is the perfect amount.
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billfrankenstein
That's all you need, babe.
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BeyBlade
And I was like, oh, wonderful. And I went to bed with a smile on my face.
00:04:15
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that was nice. I saw the freeze frame, too.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
That's fun to watch, right?
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BeyBlade
Oh, yeah.
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billfrankenstein
To look at.
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BeyBlade
I mean, you know, and it was very obvious that was going to happen.
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billfrankenstein
seemed like
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BeyBlade
ah
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billfrankenstein
um i don't I don't know the name of the boxer that he fought. I can't remember it off the top of my head.
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BeyBlade
Anthony Johnson.
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billfrankenstein
He had a lot of, let's call them openings, I guess is what I would call them.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
And he didn't capitalize on anymore. I was like,
00:04:40
BeyBlade
That's what I heard. a lot of people are saying he he carried him into, which he may have, right? And don't know.
00:04:47
billfrankenstein
sure.
Amazon Prime in Post-Apocalypse
00:04:48
BeyBlade
It didn't matter because, yeah, right?
00:04:49
billfrankenstein
To get the spread, to get the round, it's the right round.
00:04:52
BeyBlade
right like a opinion you know You could say he was coming off a 15-month, he was coming off like ah over a year layoff. Also, from my understanding, ah Jake was running a lot.
00:05:02
BeyBlade
And it is hard to catch a guy who won't engage with you.
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billfrankenstein
ah so like That's not good in boxing.
00:05:09
BeyBlade
Yeah, if you're entire, if you never try to win the fight for one single second and you're just backpedaling the entire fight. Yeah, it turns out ah you're not. See, that's that's the thing too.
00:05:19
billfrankenstein
Hell of a nickname, though. Runner? The Runner?
00:05:21
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's the thing that irks me.
00:05:22
Steve-O
Bye.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
00:05:24
BeyBlade
This is the last thing I'll say about it. The thing that irks me is people are like, oh man, you gotta give him credit though.
00:05:29
billfrankenstein
yeah
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BeyBlade
You know, like, no don't. That dude sucks. Yeah.
00:05:32
billfrankenstein
Nobody in the world has to give of credit.
00:05:33
BeyBlade
it dude sucks
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billfrankenstein
ah
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BeyBlade
And he got paid 90 million. i would have gone in there for 90 million dollars.
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billfrankenstein
a Yeah, easy.
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BeyBlade
and And again, if you don't try if you didn't, he didn't try to win that fight. He just tried to last as long as he did. You know, like that's.
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billfrankenstein
He looked a little gassed.
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BeyBlade
Yeah, because he's a fucking.
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billfrankenstein
A little gassed.
00:05:55
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so I saw that and I was like, that's good. Good. I'm glad that happened to you.
00:06:02
billfrankenstein
Yeah, everybody's happy about that.
00:06:02
BeyBlade
You you trashy person.
00:06:04
billfrankenstein
Everybody loved that.
00:06:05
BeyBlade
Yeah, so you know what? Domino, the first Domino has fallen, everyone.
00:06:10
billfrankenstein
Well, you would you consider Andrew Tate a domino?
00:06:10
BeyBlade
Next thing you know. Yeah, he's a Domino. He's a Domino.
00:06:14
billfrankenstein
Okay, that's two then, right?
00:06:15
BeyBlade
That's two, yeah.
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billfrankenstein
Two dominoes just fell?
00:06:17
BeyBlade
Epstein files released. Domino three.
00:06:21
billfrankenstein
That's what started all this. That's what led led to the loss, because they were all thinking about it.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:06:27
BeyBlade
Oh my God.
00:06:28
Steve-O
They were thinking about they couldn't concentrate on the fight.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
Oh, of course! The Epstein files, Steve!
00:06:32
BeyBlade
Jake Paul was really worried about being on the Epstein list.
00:06:36
Steve-O
I forget, you know, sometimes, sometimes I take flights with multiple stops.
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BeyBlade
I don't know. Maybe I'm on, you know, I forget. Am I?
00:06:41
Steve-O
So.
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BeyBlade
Who could say?
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billfrankenstein
A lot of folks on that list, everybody.
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
um ah You know, Michael Jackson might be, but the photos they were using of him were not factual. Did you hear about that?
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BeyBlade
You know? Yeah. And,
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billfrankenstein
So they had pictures of Michael Jackson and Bill Clinton at an event with children. There was women there. They took foot those photos and alleged that that was the Epstein Island, but it wasn't. It was a fundraising event for children.
00:07:08
BeyBlade
Yeah. and And I also like how people are like, oh what if clinton what if Bill Clinton's on it?
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billfrankenstein
So that's fun, right?
00:07:15
BeyBlade
I'm like, so?
00:07:16
billfrankenstein
Who cares?
00:07:17
Steve-O
Yeah, well, like, yeah, like.
00:07:17
BeyBlade
Yeah. You can get arrested too, dude. Like, fuck. I don't give a fuck.
00:07:22
Steve-O
yeah Arrest them all like, come on.
00:07:26
BeyBlade
Yeah, man.
00:07:27
billfrankenstein
are we doing?
00:07:27
BeyBlade
ah yeah
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billfrankenstein
Woody Allen's in every photo.
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BeyBlade
Yeah. Guess what?
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billfrankenstein
Get him.
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BeyBlade
i can I can stand on that. I never really liked Woody Allen.
00:07:33
billfrankenstein
I like Woody. I like Woody Allen movies and I want him arrested.
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BeyBlade
I never... Yeah, I never liked Woody Allen.
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billfrankenstein
That's the simple, simple, simple.
00:07:41
BeyBlade
He's too nebbish.
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Steve-O
I would say arrest everybody.
00:07:45
billfrankenstein
Wait, wait, wait, not Brett Ratner.
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BeyBlade
You've got shower four, Steve.
00:07:49
Steve-O
Okay, now hold on.
00:07:50
BeyBlade
Don't fuck this up.
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Steve-O
Now hold on.
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billfrankenstein
oh ho Hold on.
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BeyBlade
Don't fuck this up for us.
00:07:51
Steve-O
Now hold on.
00:07:52
billfrankenstein
Pump the brakes, okay, Steve?
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BeyBlade
Yeah.
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Steve-O
Steve, come on.
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BeyBlade
Don't mess this up for us.
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billfrankenstein
It's Brett Ratner.
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Steve-O
How are we going to get more rush hour films?
00:08:01
BeyBlade
Chris Tucker's already on the bubble, man.
00:08:01
billfrankenstein
i mean, the president wants more.
00:08:02
BeyBlade
You see that picture where he's like, what are you doing?
00:08:04
billfrankenstein
you can't stop this train.
00:08:07
Steve-O
That's a weird one. that's such a weird little like line to be like, I want a fourth rush hour movie.
00:08:17
BeyBlade
Hey.
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billfrankenstein
I think i would I would bring back Hannibal if I was president.
00:08:19
BeyBlade
Now you'd say, I want Mindhunter.
00:08:21
Steve-O
Hmm.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
You wouldn't bring back Mindhunter?
00:08:22
BeyBlade
Yeah. Okay.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
You wouldn't bring back Mindhunter?
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billfrankenstein
Nah, I'm sorry. It's gotta be Hannibal.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Hear me out.
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BeyBlade
Okay.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
What about Mindhunter, but it's all a whitewashed cast because it's got to it's got to comply with the ah with a new political...
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billfrankenstein
ah
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billfrankenstein
Well, that's why I picked Hannibal, because everybody on that shit is white already.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah
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BeyBlade
aion
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billfrankenstein
They got one black guy, Lawrence Fishburne.
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
It wouldn't have to change anything.
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billfrankenstein
He's great, don't get me wrong, but like,
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
he would die in the first episode. Maybe, like, first episode of the of the revive.
00:08:51
billfrankenstein
I gotta do what I gotta do. Gotta do what I gotta do. I mean, I get...
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
And like Hannibal doesn't even eat him because he's disgusted by skin color.
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billfrankenstein
ah
00:09:00
billfrankenstein
yeah
00:09:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
but
00:09:03
Steve-O
I feel like they got a different showrunner for this.
00:09:03
BeyBlade
yeah.
00:09:04
billfrankenstein
and don't do dark meat. I don't do dark meat. Jesus, Hannibal. You never say shit like that. ah This is a new Hannibal. that would I would change that, too.
00:09:16
billfrankenstein
He's, like, fucking rad.
00:09:17
Steve-O
New Hannibal.
00:09:17
billfrankenstein
and Listen to metal all the time.
00:09:19
BeyBlade
Hannibal's rad.
00:09:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he's rad as shit. Where's yeah wear's tank tops? Black tank tops.
00:09:25
Steve-O
Rob Zombie's Hannibal.
00:09:27
billfrankenstein
with Yeah, I mean, come on, president.
00:09:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Mm-hmm.
00:09:30
BeyBlade
Yeah, you know, is that a monkey's paw? Hannibal comes back, but it's Rob Zombie's Hannibal.
00:09:34
billfrankenstein
ah Okay,
00:09:37
BeyBlade
No! No!
00:09:38
Steve-O
That's a fun little game. That's a fun little game we could play. Like, what things do we want and then one of us has to ruin it?
00:09:42
BeyBlade
Rob Zombie's Terminator 2. Yeah.
00:09:44
billfrankenstein
no other way to it other than ruin it. there's no other way to say it other than ruining Which is fun.
00:09:52
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:09:52
billfrankenstein
for that For that context of Rob Domlin being a
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BeyBlade
thank
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Steve-O
Oh man, Mindhunter's back, but it's Criss Angel's
00:10:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
00:10:03
billfrankenstein
Ah, shit. Tell me after you something, Charles Manson.
00:10:11
billfrankenstein
You ever seen a trick before?
00:10:13
BeyBlade
so
00:10:15
Steve-O
Look, I'm a child now.
00:10:17
billfrankenstein
baby, man.
00:10:18
BeyBlade
Look at me, I'm a little baby.
00:10:18
billfrankenstein
I always was.
00:10:20
BeyBlade
How do you understand that? Look at this trick.
00:10:22
Steve-O
You've been Mindfreak.
00:10:23
BeyBlade
This is editing. No, it's magic. You just... Oh, man. Yeah.
00:10:28
Steve-O
Yeah, the magic of cinema.
00:10:30
billfrankenstein
Alright. ah Yeah, anything can be bad.
00:10:30
BeyBlade
This is Kino.
00:10:32
billfrankenstein
Anything can be made bad.
00:10:32
BeyBlade
It's just kind of a... All right. man Fair enough.
00:10:35
billfrankenstein
That's the world. That's that's reality.
00:10:38
Steve-O
That's the world we live in.
00:10:39
billfrankenstein
that will Yeah, more accurately, that's currently the world we live in.
00:10:42
Steve-O
You could be like, dude, my favorite game of the year is a banger. It won all the game awards. And then the monkey's paw. Oops. Oops.
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billfrankenstein
little bit of AI.
00:10:49
Steve-O
AI generated. lot little a i
00:10:51
billfrankenstein
A little bit of AI in there.
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Steve-O
oops
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billfrankenstein
A few drops. drops
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BeyBlade
yeah Speaking of bad, i watched him today.
00:11:03
Steve-O
Oh, the, uh, the,
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AI_PLACEHOLDER
Was it worse than War of the Worlds?
00:11:05
BeyBlade
on
00:11:09
BeyBlade
oh oh I forgot that movie existed.
00:11:13
billfrankenstein
Oh, come on.
00:11:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
that's on a lot of That's on a lot of people's like worst of the year list.
00:11:13
billfrankenstein
How...
00:11:15
BeyBlade
No, I mean, you said it and I was like, the Spielberg one? I'm like, now no, no.
00:11:18
billfrankenstein
We watched that together. I remember it.
00:11:20
BeyBlade
I know.
00:11:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, come on.
00:11:21
BeyBlade
no. no
00:11:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It was you, Devin?
00:11:22
billfrankenstein
it was you!
00:11:23
BeyBlade
ah Him was better than War of the Worlds. I guess I can't Can't take it down that far.
00:11:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It was better than an hour and a half Amazon Prime commercial.
00:11:33
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. ah
00:11:35
billfrankenstein
You see the way those drones flew?
00:11:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
starring Ice Cube.
00:11:38
BeyBlade
That's true.
00:11:38
Steve-O
You can get like a USB plug in like an hour, Devin.
00:11:43
billfrankenstein
just fly it into a a random homeless man encampment and have him deal with it
00:11:43
BeyBlade
Fair enough. Yeah. You know, I got i got a year's worth of free Amazon Prime because of that.
00:11:48
billfrankenstein
yeah
00:11:53
billfrankenstein
Huh.
00:11:53
BeyBlade
grab that Grab that drone. Save the save the planet.
00:11:56
billfrankenstein
I guess you're right. We all benefited from it in some way.
00:11:58
BeyBlade
All I did was risk my life for a free year of Amazon Prime. That won't be up and running consistently. If you really think about it, you think Amazon Prime is going up three months after the world almost ended?
00:12:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
you
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BeyBlade
it No.
00:12:10
billfrankenstein
It's ah taken a week to deliver one fucking thing to my house.
00:12:13
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:12:13
billfrankenstein
So I don't think it would function properly at the end of the world.
00:12:14
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:12:15
Steve-O
It depends on if we have the postman, Kevin Costner, because he always delivers the mail.
00:12:16
BeyBlade
Exactly.
00:12:21
billfrankenstein
Oh, he's the God damn King of Mailmen.
00:12:23
BeyBlade
You know, I didn't see that movie.
00:12:27
BeyBlade
I didn't see that or Dances with Wolves.
00:12:27
billfrankenstein
That was the original. The original title was King of Mailmen.
00:12:30
BeyBlade
Sue me.
00:12:31
Steve-O
King of mailmen.
00:12:32
billfrankenstein
And they were like, you can't.
00:12:32
BeyBlade
Yeah. King of Mailman.
00:12:34
billfrankenstein
Nobody cares about that. Nobody cares about the King of Mailmen.
00:12:37
BeyBlade
ah Yeah. I don't really have much else to say. Listen, it's um it's all the bad things you've heard about it, frankly.
00:12:49
BeyBlade
It's the, this movie's like a fever dream. It's not really intricate.
00:12:53
billfrankenstein
style over substance.
00:12:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, and there's a moment where the the movie gives you like the the explanation, and I was like, I still don't understand what's happening. I still don't get it.
00:13:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, they like feed you, they feed you the explanation and it still doesn't make sense.
00:13:07
BeyBlade
There's like a moment for like why he's doing what he does, and i was like, it still doesn't make any sense. like This is still stupid.
00:13:12
billfrankenstein
It's all flash, all sizzle, no steak.
00:13:15
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:13:17
billfrankenstein
Yeah. I mean, the trailers were provocative, right?
00:13:20
BeyBlade
Trailers are good.
00:13:21
billfrankenstein
And it kind of, uh, It hit, it rung a few bells because it was a horror sports film, which is pretty rare, you know?
00:13:28
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:13:28
Steve-O
You don't get that often.
00:13:29
BeyBlade
And like Jordan Peele's names all over it, you know, as, as the producer.
00:13:31
billfrankenstein
Jordan Peele threw his name on it.
00:13:33
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:13:33
billfrankenstein
Like, yeah if you, you know, like we all did. You looked at it in hindsight. Seemed like a good idea. Seemed like on the outside it would work, but.
00:13:39
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:13:42
BeyBlade
Listen, I would have fired my, my team too. If, if I got this instead of weapons, you know what I mean?
00:13:47
billfrankenstein
Oh, dude, what a drop. What a drop. Dropping the ball.
00:13:50
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:13:50
billfrankenstein
God damn.
00:13:52
Steve-O
See, could it could it hang with something like the substance, which was like last year's like banger?
00:13:52
BeyBlade
But, uh, yeah.
00:13:58
BeyBlade
No.
00:14:02
BeyBlade
No, no.
00:14:02
Steve-O
What was.
00:14:02
BeyBlade
This is like him. What was this year's substance?
00:14:06
Steve-O
yeah what was this year's substance slash um I'm trying to go down the line.
00:14:09
billfrankenstein
Eddington. I'm just kidding.
00:14:12
Steve-O
it might be.
00:14:12
billfrankenstein
I mean, i as far as like um a film that shocked me and I still think about it, think it's still Eddington for me in a lot of ways.
00:14:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
For what?
00:14:23
billfrankenstein
like um Like, you know, the substance was just kind of shocking and it, um and it made, I'm like, I kept thinking, I kept thinking about it after I saw it.
00:14:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, editing was that.
00:14:34
billfrankenstein
To me, Eddington was was that. It's not necessarily the best film of the year, but it's something I, Just constantly think about.
00:14:41
Steve-O
The malignant award. Because
00:14:42
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:14:43
billfrankenstein
Yeah. ah
Rat Kings and Destiny
00:14:44
billfrankenstein
Yeah. I mean.
00:14:45
Steve-O
that's what I would want out of like a sports horror movie is like, because like that would be that'd be fun if they did a sequel to the substance, but it was sports.
00:14:48
billfrankenstein
Sure.
00:14:53
billfrankenstein
I don't think that.
00:14:53
Steve-O
And it's like, dude, I can get bigger and bigger. And then you're like, it's just like an ogre on the field. Like that would be kind of wild.
00:14:59
BeyBlade
I mean, listen, you're closer than you think, Steve.
00:15:02
Steve-O
Okay. All right.
00:15:04
BeyBlade
Um, um I don't want to say this is the best comparison, but maybe together. Together is like the that comparison.
00:15:15
Steve-O
I touching eyes.
00:15:15
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah The Alison Brie and ah Dave Franco movie.
00:15:16
BeyBlade
Yeah. Listen, that speaks to a very particular creep out of mine. You know? like Like things that get under my skin, like that's together.
00:15:25
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah, that was that. Well, there was something in particular that you reacted to quite a bit when we saw it is that what you're talking about?
00:15:32
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, kind of in general, like, not only does that man have the worst dreams I've ever seen in a movie in a very long time.
00:15:35
billfrankenstein
OK.
00:15:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's I think that that dream sequence is the scariest part of that movie.
00:15:45
BeyBlade
The guy has so many horrible nightmares. Like, he should see someone. Also, there's a Rat King in it. Like, a real Rat King.
00:15:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, I love Rat Kings.
00:15:54
billfrankenstein
I think everybody does.
00:15:55
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:56
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:15:56
BeyBlade
star
00:15:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
There was a gun in in Destiny called the Rat King, where if I think you guys had it.
00:15:58
Steve-O
Well,
00:16:01
BeyBlade
I remember that.
00:16:02
Steve-O
I remember that guy.
00:16:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah. Like if you were so if you were together, like grouped up, it did more damage all if if everybody was using it.
00:16:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:16:03
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:16:08
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:16:09
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's how we beat Calus that one time.
00:16:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
00:16:11
Steve-O
We all grouped up.
00:16:13
BeyBlade
We all grouped up with our rat kings.
00:16:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
as and has It has rats and shit like embossed all all over it.
00:16:15
BeyBlade
Drop that fool.
00:16:17
billfrankenstein
I wish we all had tails to intertwine like that, huh?
00:16:18
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:16:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It gets stuck forever.
00:16:21
billfrankenstein
It gets stuck forever. It's a dream of mine.
00:16:23
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:16:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Just the concept of what an actual racking is is is actually pretty fucking disgusting.
00:16:28
BeyBlade
No, dude, that's what I mean.
00:16:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
though
00:16:28
BeyBlade
Like, there's a scene where he pulls something out of, like, a light fixture and it's a rat king.
00:16:30
billfrankenstein
it Yes.
00:16:34
BeyBlade
And he's ah like, barehanded, dude.
00:16:35
Steve-O
That's kind of wild. That's kind of wild.
00:16:38
BeyBlade
Disgusted me.
00:16:38
Steve-O
i mean, if we wanted to do like kind of like a fun little experiment of being a rat king, we could just all wear headphones like for like a month and just see if like we got intertwined with one another.
00:16:53
billfrankenstein
Oh, like the cables?
00:16:53
Steve-O
And and we can't remove them.
00:16:54
billfrankenstein
You're saying with the cords?
00:16:55
Steve-O
Like, that's the thing.
00:16:55
billfrankenstein
Yes.
00:16:56
Steve-O
We can't remove it because, you know, rat rat kings don't like they're not like, oh, let me get my tail out.
00:17:02
billfrankenstein
Yeah, i gotta go somewhere tonight. That's the how that works, Devin.
00:17:06
Steve-O
You ever try to put a bunch of bunch of cables into a bag, Devin?
00:17:07
billfrankenstein
This is a commitment.
00:17:07
BeyBlade
I mean,
00:17:10
Steve-O
Instant Rat King.
00:17:12
BeyBlade
that's true, man. Yeah, I rack king every day, dude.
00:17:16
billfrankenstein
I
00:17:17
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:17:17
Steve-O
That's the sound of a an LMFAO song.
00:17:21
billfrankenstein
ah
00:17:22
BeyBlade
ah
00:17:22
billfrankenstein
rap king every fucking day.
00:17:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Every day I'm rat-kinging.
00:17:23
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:17:25
Steve-O
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
00:17:26
BeyBlade
I will say a better film, a better film, was I saw Avatar Fire and Ash. And I didn't just see Avatar Firenash.
00:17:37
BeyBlade
I saw it Thursday night, middle of the front row IMAX 3D.
00:17:43
billfrankenstein
Jesus Christ.
00:17:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
How many people... Was it packed? The theater?
00:17:46
BeyBlade
It was packed. yeah Not the front row.
00:17:47
billfrankenstein
What the hell are you doing?
00:17:48
BeyBlade
Front row had some space. Yeah,
00:17:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, I know, but like just the fact... Dude, Avatar just... makes money dude even though like like I'll never watch them like personally have no interest in them but like it makes so much money
00:17:53
BeyBlade
dude. Yeah.
00:17:59
Steve-O
Same.
00:18:01
BeyBlade
What's up?
00:18:01
Steve-O
Wait, so like one out of four of us watch the Avatar movies.
00:18:01
BeyBlade
You guys.
00:18:06
BeyBlade
and I have to watch it four times to make up for you guys.
00:18:07
billfrankenstein
I think that's a i a completely fair um fair equation for the world.
00:18:14
Steve-O
One out of four people have seen all the Avatar movies.
00:18:14
billfrankenstein
Wait. I think that because like the way they make money, it's and it's specifically in in China and India and a lot of other countries like that's got to be it. Right.
00:18:26
Steve-O
It has to be the other part side of the world because I feel like there is no interest. No interest here aside from Devin.
00:18:31
billfrankenstein
Well.
00:18:33
Steve-O
And he just keeps going and going and going.
00:18:33
billfrankenstein
It did. I did read it it it as far as domestically and underperformed quite a bit.
00:18:39
Steve-O
It has only like a 70%, right?
00:18:41
BeyBlade
88 million, 88 million.
00:18:41
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:18:42
BeyBlade
I mean, the score, sort of.
00:18:43
billfrankenstein
88 million, which is 88 million for any movie nowadays is wonderful.
Avatar Mix-Up and Reflections
00:18:47
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:18:47
billfrankenstein
You know, like, don't don't get me wrong, but it has any, and you can ah argue that it's also the state of cinema and the way people look at movies.
00:18:56
BeyBlade
Yeah. And it's a three hour long movie and it's the third one, you know.
00:19:00
Steve-O
The third one.
00:19:00
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I mean, yeah there's a lot.
00:19:02
BeyBlade
There's a lot. There's a lot. 345 million worldwide. So it's still broke. A buttload of records. But funny story.
00:19:14
BeyBlade
You guys are going to love this.
00:19:16
billfrankenstein
Oh yeah?
00:19:16
BeyBlade
Because you're huge Avatar fans.
00:19:18
billfrankenstein
Oh yeah, we are.
00:19:19
BeyBlade
So I walk in. I walk in. I went to Applebee's. Treated myself to two Long Island.
00:19:24
billfrankenstein
Now that is a true Avatar fan, if I've ever heard one.
00:19:27
BeyBlade
Yeah. Treated myself to two Long Island's.
00:19:29
billfrankenstein
Avatar B's
00:19:31
BeyBlade
drove to the theater. walked into the wrong theater immediately. And I was like, oh, shit. Oh, this must be the end of the second movie because they're on the boat.
00:19:45
BeyBlade
The Avatar, ah the bad guy has the Avatar, Jake Sully's kids hostage. And he's like, you better get over here because I'm going to fuck you up. They're on the boat that's crashing.
00:19:55
BeyBlade
There's a big water battle happening. i was like, oh, this is the end of the second. Maybe they're doing like a whole like watch all of them in one go, right?
00:20:03
Steve-O
Oh.
00:20:04
BeyBlade
And I'm sitting there and i was like, you know what? i'm pretty i This is weird, though, because I'm on time. I think I'm in the wrong theater. So I get up and I leave. I was in the wrong theater.
00:20:13
billfrankenstein
Oh boy.
00:20:13
BeyBlade
Walking to the IMAX theater, sit down. My seat is broken. my like So I was like, yo, this is not going to work. So I scooted it over, found a seat that worked, um saw some some trailers, which I'll touch on in a minute. But I'm watching Avatar.
00:20:33
BeyBlade
And then ah we get to the end of Avatar 3. And I was like, motherfucker, this is not Avatar. this I did walk it. I walked into the end of Avatar 3 thinking it's Avatar 2. Now, I didn't watch, I didn't rewatch the movies in preparation for this. I don't care that much.
00:20:52
BeyBlade
But I'm pretty sure that like 95% of the ending of Avatar 2 is just Avatar 3. Like it feels like a second draft. of Avatar 2, at least the third act.
00:21:05
BeyBlade
Because the second movie ends on a big the big boat battle in the water where the bad guy has Jake Sully's kids and he's keeping them hostage because he wants to get at them. And this movie ends in the big water battle on a busted up boat, has one of Jake Sully's kids and he's like, hey, you better get over here. And I was like, what the what am I watching right now?
00:21:28
Steve-O
Dude, once water is introduced, James Cameron can't get out of that mode.
00:21:28
BeyBlade
It's the same exact movie. The same exact movie.
00:21:31
billfrankenstein
Yeah, Jimmy Cam's is stuck once he gets out there.
00:21:33
BeyBlade
Dude.
00:21:37
BeyBlade
Like, I know there are differences, obviously, but like, you know, it's ah narratively, it's it's a lot of copy paste.
00:21:44
Steve-O
I wish heek
00:21:48
Steve-O
i wish he cared about the Terminator series as much as he cared about his stupid blue water planet world.
00:21:55
BeyBlade
Terminator doesn't make him nearly as much money.
00:21:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Pandora.
00:21:57
BeyBlade
That's the problem.
00:21:57
Steve-O
It could, though. It could, though.
00:21:59
BeyBlade
Yeah, Terminator showing up in Pandora. Now we're talking.
00:22:04
Steve-O
be kind of sick.
00:22:05
BeyBlade
You know what?
00:22:06
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, that would actually be... I would watch it if he showed up.
00:22:07
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:22:08
billfrankenstein
Okay, hold hold on.
00:22:08
BeyBlade
You know what? I'm going to say this, though.
00:22:10
billfrankenstein
That's a horse of a different colour.
00:22:13
BeyBlade
I'm going to say this. There is something somewhat refreshing, and this is probably true of the second movie, too. There's an earnestness to these Avatar movies that is lacking in most of these big budget action movies.
00:22:29
Steve-O
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know what you mean, Vern. What do you mean, earnestness?
00:22:33
BeyBlade
Well, so
00:22:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Bye.
00:22:35
billfrankenstein
Oh, struck a chord.
00:22:36
BeyBlade
they're talking about really dumb things, right? but the the the The Rubicon juice. And we got to we got to kill this kid because he is he can breathe our air. And if he breathes our air, he's not going to be able like their humans are gonna be able to reverse engineer it. Then we're goingnna take over a planet. And no one's quipping.
00:22:57
BeyBlade
No one's cracking jokes. There's a one there's a kid avatar a Navi. There's a kid Navi who tries to commit suicide in this movie with a gun. Because his dad hates him because he got his brother killed.
00:23:12
BeyBlade
Like it's dude pretty much right.
00:23:13
billfrankenstein
The other brother should have died.
00:23:15
Steve-O
but
00:23:17
billfrankenstein
oh man.
00:23:17
BeyBlade
Like the content is somewhat really serious and like, you know, not for nothing, but I'm like, God, if this was a fucking Marvel movie, like I'd be hearing so many quips and jokes and there's something to be said about at least they're taking it serious.
00:23:36
BeyBlade
And I can appreciate that. You know, I truly can.
00:23:40
billfrankenstein
it I guess you're right. I mean, for people that are Avatar fans, I'm sure that that kind of resonates with them because they they take the world so serious and it's part of whatever fandom exists.
00:23:50
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, dude this is all like, there's no tongue in cheek in these movies, dude.
00:23:57
billfrankenstein
But, you know, for someone like me, it just means it's more open to like, satire and make fun of.
00:24:03
BeyBlade
Nah, dude. Nah, dude. How dare you?
00:24:04
billfrankenstein
No, I'll dare me.
00:24:05
BeyBlade
How dare you, dude?
00:24:07
billfrankenstein
I
00:24:08
BeyBlade
The whales can speak. Okay?
00:24:11
billfrankenstein
Oh yeah? Yeah, they can speak on our planet too.
00:24:11
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:24:11
Steve-O
Whoa.
00:24:13
BeyBlade
And there's this guy who got his arm cut off in the last movie and you thought that was the end of it. Now he's back and he's got a little baby robot arm and it's very it's very amusing to me.
00:24:22
billfrankenstein
It's a tiny, small arm?
00:24:23
Steve-O
That's just army of darkness.
00:24:25
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:24:25
Steve-O
That's just army of darkness.
00:24:26
BeyBlade
Yeah. it's ah He has a tiny robot arm.
00:24:28
billfrankenstein
Alright. Well, at least they committed to that silly bit.
00:24:31
BeyBlade
Because he's he's a whaler, you know?
00:24:31
billfrankenstein
Sure. Sure.
00:24:34
Steve-O
He doesn't have like a hook hand if he's a whaler. That would be kind of sick like Aquaman.
00:24:35
BeyBlade
No, no he has a big he no. He has a little robot hand, but it's like half as long as his normal hand. And then in this one, spoilers for the fate of this guy.
00:24:42
billfrankenstein
That's rough. That's rough.
00:24:47
BeyBlade
ah This one, the last time you see him is the whale bit his legs and dragged him into the abyss.
00:24:52
Steve-O
Are the whales the bad guys in these now?
00:24:54
BeyBlade
No, no. This is a blackfish situation. You're rooting for the whales.
00:24:59
billfrankenstein
Fuck everybody who lives on the land. That's what they say.
00:25:01
BeyBlade
Yeah, you're rooting for whales. So I'm like, if this guy comes back, he's going to have robot ah tiny robot legs and a tiny robot arm.
00:25:03
billfrankenstein
They all fucking suck.
00:25:09
BeyBlade
And I'm here for it.
00:25:10
Steve-O
she He should get those properly sized.
00:25:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Are they using mechs or suits, exosuits Avatar?
00:25:13
BeyBlade
no
00:25:17
BeyBlade
Those are mechs, dude. Those are for sure mechs.
00:25:19
AI_PLACEHOLDER
OK, I'm just making sure there's continuity here for Devin.
00:25:20
BeyBlade
And there's little crab mechs. There's little crab mechs that there they were driving.
00:25:23
billfrankenstein
I like to think there's a big notebook that John has and he's just crossing off thing.
00:25:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, just let yeah making sure.
00:25:27
billfrankenstein
All right.
00:25:28
BeyBlade
you did ah I'll be honest.
00:25:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
OK, Avatar is on the list.
00:25:30
BeyBlade
The first Avatar movie, the first Avatar movie is like one of the originate is is one of the first things I think of where I'm like, yo, these fucking mechs are sick.
00:25:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah
00:25:38
BeyBlade
I'm team, team humanity.
00:25:40
billfrankenstein
John's building up a defense. It's to be rock solid at the end of all this.
00:25:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Okay.
00:25:43
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:25:43
Steve-O
i remember I remember people being stunned by that when you were saying that back in the day, Devin.
00:25:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
00:25:44
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:25:47
BeyBlade
Yeah. I was like, dude, I
00:25:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's going to be a 20-page addendum where I list things that Devin was contradictory on.
00:25:52
BeyBlade
can I can i Yeah.
00:25:56
billfrankenstein
And we take this to a grand jury and I represent John.
00:25:58
BeyBlade
Well, on week 17, you said this.
00:25:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah
00:26:00
billfrankenstein
i have to have to feed the the jury all the info.
00:26:04
BeyBlade
Can tell you, I think my most toxic personality comes out when I watch Avatar movies by myself.
00:26:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Why is that?
00:26:10
BeyBlade
Like, I'm like, I'm just, I don't know.
00:26:11
Steve-O
What's that?
00:26:12
BeyBlade
I'm just a xenophobic psycho. I'm like, yeah, fuck that little kid.
00:26:17
billfrankenstein
Oh boy.
00:26:17
BeyBlade
Fucking, fucking kill that kid.
00:26:18
billfrankenstein
I think that's the opposite. Isn't that the opposite intention?
00:26:19
BeyBlade
Kill those whales for for immortality juice or whatever you get from the whales.
00:26:23
billfrankenstein
It's the opposite. and It's the opposite. Lesson the movie's trying to teach.
00:26:27
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, I'm a fucking psychopath, dude.
00:26:28
Steve-O
m
00:26:30
billfrankenstein
So you get you got the the polar opposite effect from from Avatar movies.
00:26:33
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:26:35
billfrankenstein
Where most are like, because about environmentalism.
00:26:37
BeyBlade
Yeah, no way, dude.
00:26:39
billfrankenstein
and natives having their own space.
00:26:40
BeyBlade
no and And the Fire and Ash Na'vi, they're they're basically... trying to think of like a non-racist comparison.
00:26:50
billfrankenstein
Oh boy.
00:26:51
BeyBlade
No, but I mean...
00:26:51
Steve-O
Oh, we could skip this.
00:26:52
BeyBlade
but like No, but I'm just saying they're like...
00:26:53
billfrankenstein
Yeah, you don't have
00:26:53
Steve-O
We don't have to go there.
00:26:54
BeyBlade
They're like they're the stereotypical like savage tribe.
00:26:55
billfrankenstein
I was going to dig deep on this one.
00:27:00
BeyBlade
You know what I mean? like They're basically the bone-and-nose savage tribe type archetype that you see.
00:27:07
billfrankenstein
I guess that's cool with people.
00:27:10
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:27:11
billfrankenstein
I guess they were okay with that. I'm
00:27:12
BeyBlade
Quaritch, dude. Dude, where my Quaritch heads at? Chris, you're Quaritch head.
00:27:16
billfrankenstein
talking about Quark from DSpace9?
00:27:17
BeyBlade
Dude.
00:27:19
billfrankenstein
That's my shit.
00:27:20
BeyBlade
You know what?
00:27:20
Steve-O
Dude, Quark was sick.
00:27:21
BeyBlade
whatever Whatever lie I can tell you to get you in the door, I'll say it.
00:27:25
Steve-O
I don't think you'll ever get us in the door. It's been like almost 20 years.
00:27:27
BeyBlade
Dude.
00:27:28
Steve-O
if We haven't walked into any of these doors.
00:27:29
billfrankenstein
You think I got gold-plated latinum? I don't think so.
00:27:31
BeyBlade
but Well, chris Chris saw the first one.
00:27:32
Steve-O
Chris, have you have you seen an Avatar movie?
00:27:34
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:27:34
billfrankenstein
I've seen the first one, and I watched half of the second one, and was bored to tears.
00:27:36
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:27:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I didn't watch the second one at all.
00:27:41
Steve-O
um I've never even seen the first one.
00:27:43
BeyBlade
See, Steve, yeah.
00:27:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What? Steve, that's a violation.
00:27:46
Steve-O
Dude, I'm holding the fort down.
00:27:46
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's a violation. See?
00:27:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's a red that's a yellow flag.
00:27:47
Steve-O
how is that how is that of How is that a flag?
00:27:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
No, no, no, that's a yellow flag.
00:27:49
BeyBlade
That's a violation.
00:27:49
Steve-O
That's like a green flag.
00:27:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You gotta
00:27:50
BeyBlade
Let's see.
00:27:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
No, no, no, no, no.
00:27:51
BeyBlade
approval
00:27:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You have to watch it.
00:27:52
Steve-O
I wasn't indoctrinated into the 3D cult.
00:27:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
No, no, no, no, no.
00:27:55
Steve-O
I didn't make TVs $1,000 more expensive.
00:27:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You gotta watch it. You have to watch Avatar, Steve.
00:27:59
BeyBlade
No, dude. Yeah, you got watch the first one.
00:28:01
billfrankenstein
You know what? i'm i'm in steve's I'm on Steve's side on this one.
00:28:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't know.
00:28:03
BeyBlade
No, no, no, no.
00:28:03
Steve-O
You know what? There's only one avatar you need to watch, and that's the one with the airbending.
00:28:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He has watch the show.
00:28:04
billfrankenstein
I'm on Steve's side on this
00:28:08
BeyBlade
No, that was bad.
00:28:09
billfrankenstein
one.
00:28:09
BeyBlade
That was really bad,
00:28:09
billfrankenstein
Now I'm on Steve's side. See how easy that is?
00:28:12
BeyBlade
Oh, so you'd rather watch the M. Night Shyamalan movie?
00:28:15
Steve-O
No, I'm not talking about the movie.
00:28:15
billfrankenstein
Are you fucking dumb?
00:28:16
Steve-O
I didn't say The Last Airbender.
00:28:16
billfrankenstein
No way.
00:28:17
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Wait.
00:28:17
Steve-O
I didn't say The Last Airbender. I said Avatar, The Last Airbender.
00:28:21
billfrankenstein
Give me a fucking break.
00:28:21
Steve-O
Animated. Animated.
00:28:22
billfrankenstein
Don't twist my words, bitch.
00:28:24
Steve-O
Animated.
00:28:24
BeyBlade
No, no, no. You can only watch one live action movie and it's M.
00:28:27
billfrankenstein
I don't want to watch live action. You know that.
00:28:28
BeyBlade
Night Shyamalan.
00:28:28
billfrankenstein
You you know damn well.
00:28:28
Steve-O
i don't want I don't want to... Why do i have to watch live action?
00:28:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Wait, Chris, so what what would you...
00:28:31
BeyBlade
because This is the ground rule.
00:28:33
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Gun to your head on your deathbed. You're forced to watch one movie.
00:28:38
Steve-O
Wait, Gundu is dead head on his deathbed.
00:28:40
billfrankenstein
if They're going to shoot me.
00:28:40
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:28:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah Oh, hey, they're cute, but anyway.
00:28:42
billfrankenstein
I'm ready.
00:28:43
Steve-O
do
00:28:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Just gun to your head. You're promised you're going to live a long life.
00:28:45
billfrankenstein
I'm ready, baby.
00:28:45
BeyBlade
bullet
00:28:46
Steve-O
You just be like, rock on, dude.
00:28:48
billfrankenstein
Yeah, let's do this.
00:28:48
BeyBlade
Chris says, this is my deathbed.
00:28:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, do you watch Avatar or Avatar The Last Airbender?
00:28:51
BeyBlade
Pull the trigger.
00:28:55
billfrankenstein
Shut up.
00:28:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Which one? Which one do you choose, Chris?
00:28:57
BeyBlade
Yeah, which one?
00:28:57
billfrankenstein
I'd say shoot me shoot me now. over Get it over with.
00:29:03
BeyBlade
Let's see, Chris.
00:29:04
Steve-O
You know what? I'll tell you what.
00:29:05
billfrankenstein
Fill your hand.
00:29:05
Steve-O
One day, one day i will watch both of those back to back.
00:29:07
billfrankenstein
That's what say.
00:29:10
BeyBlade
No, no, back-to- back to back to back.
00:29:12
Steve-O
No, no, I'm talking about Avatar one and the last airbender.
00:29:15
BeyBlade
Oh, okay.
00:29:15
billfrankenstein
and Avatar, The Last Airbender, live action, you know, watch them all sandwiched together.
00:29:18
BeyBlade
Ooh, yeah, I guess.
00:29:22
billfrankenstein
wonder what the order, what order would you go on that?
00:29:23
BeyBlade
Well, listen, I'm just going to give you the plot. line The plot of Avatar, Fire, and Ash, right?
00:29:28
Steve-O
Is that the third one?
00:29:29
BeyBlade
Let me, this is the third.
00:29:30
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:29:31
BeyBlade
Jake and Natiri's family grapples with grief after Netanyam's death encountering a new aggressive k Navi tribe, the Ash people, who are led by the Fury Varang as the conflict on Pandora escalates and a new moral focus emerges.
00:29:32
billfrankenstein
Way of the water. second.
00:29:47
BeyBlade
Does that not get you?
00:29:47
billfrankenstein
this is what This is what I sound like when I talk about Star Trek. I think I understand now.
00:29:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
00:29:54
BeyBlade
Yeah. You
The Odyssey and Cinematic Adaptations
00:29:55
BeyBlade
know, you know, ah listen, you know, honestly, it's a crazy, it's a visual feast as, as they all are.
00:29:55
billfrankenstein
I get it. I get it right
00:30:04
BeyBlade
Right. It's a, there's no point where I'm watching it and I just, I'm thinking I'm watching computers. I'm like, yep, this is just fucking eight foot tall blue people. Like, and I'm just watching it and I'm, and I'm vibing with the story.
00:30:18
BeyBlade
So listen, that's just objectively, I think, unimpeachably impressive, right? I don't think narrative, all that, whatever, but like, it's just, it's, it's a gorgeous movie for sure.
00:30:32
Steve-O
It's ah's a visual feast for the eyes.
00:30:32
BeyBlade
um
00:30:34
billfrankenstein
Of course.
00:30:34
BeyBlade
You know, what was a visual feast?
00:30:36
Steve-O
What's that?
00:30:38
BeyBlade
ah Not the Doomsday teaser.
00:30:40
Steve-O
Oh, I want to hear about these.
00:30:41
BeyBlade
No.
00:30:42
billfrankenstein
Okay, Devin, what do you got here?
00:30:43
Steve-O
Yeah, what's going on?
00:30:43
billfrankenstein
give us some Give us the hot take here.
00:30:43
BeyBlade
so so So there's some trailers, right? There's something to So all the Supergirl trailer in IMAX, that was fun. Nothing different, right? But um the Odyssey teaser, was it was in this.
00:30:56
billfrankenstein
You said that was quite good.
00:30:57
Steve-O
That's um Christopher Nolan, right?
00:30:58
BeyBlade
Yes.
00:30:58
billfrankenstein
wait Wait, wait, the one we've all seen, right?
00:31:00
BeyBlade
No, no, no.
00:31:01
billfrankenstein
Nope.
00:31:01
BeyBlade
this is a this is a This is like a four or five minute expanded scene, sequence, essentially.
00:31:08
billfrankenstein
Is it with John Burton though?
00:31:09
BeyBlade
Yeah, Jon Bernthal...
00:31:10
billfrankenstein
Oh, I saw that. I did watch that.
00:31:12
BeyBlade
The whole thing? Like...
00:31:14
billfrankenstein
I watched a scene with him. i know that was in something.
00:31:16
BeyBlade
Okay, so so the trailer is this, right? he's He's talking to Tom Holland. He's like, you know the story about the the horse? He's like, yeah. He's like, do you know the story from the inside? And you're like, oh.
00:31:27
BeyBlade
And it cuts to...
00:31:29
billfrankenstein
Oh no, this is different.
00:31:30
BeyBlade
They're on the... fight They're in the horse.
00:31:32
billfrankenstein
Oh my.
00:31:33
BeyBlade
The horse is toppled over and they're dragging it. They're dragging it into... There's no dialogue, this whole scene. They're dragging it into the the ship. They're stabbing it.
00:31:45
BeyBlade
And the people inside are have to be quiet. And, like, somebody gets stabbed and he screams. Well, you know, they grab his mouth before he can scream. And then, like, it shows them breaking out of the the horse and taking everyone over.
00:31:57
billfrankenstein
Oh, that's cool.
00:31:59
BeyBlade
And they get spotted. And they're trying to get the door open. And it's a big tense sequence because they're shooting arrows.
00:32:04
billfrankenstein
Oh, that's fucking neat, dude.
00:32:05
BeyBlade
And they're coming. And it's fucking...
00:32:06
billfrankenstein
It's like d-day
00:32:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's so good. It's so, so, so good. And I was like, oh, I get why this movie sold out a year in advance.
00:32:12
billfrankenstein
D-Day. I think I know.
00:32:16
BeyBlade
You know what I mean? um And also, like, I don't know if you've seen it in the marketing, but, like, there's this big-ass fucking warrior. He's got, like, a weird black mask on, and he's just gigantic.
00:32:31
billfrankenstein
Oh, he's Cyclops, right?
00:32:33
BeyBlade
I guess. He's not a monster. It's just a dude. Like, so I...
00:32:37
billfrankenstein
Oh, oh, oh, like you you meant normal big, not like...
00:32:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. He's just this big fucking dude decked out in like black armor.
00:32:40
billfrankenstein
Isn't
00:32:43
BeyBlade
ah I don't know. I was annoyed at myself.
00:32:46
Steve-O
that Achilles? Oh,
00:32:47
BeyBlade
I don't think. No, because Achilles is on the other side.
00:32:49
billfrankenstein
that armor?
00:32:50
Steve-O
Achilles is on the other side. Yeah.
00:32:52
BeyBlade
He's on the other side.
00:32:52
billfrankenstein
That'd be gold.
00:32:52
BeyBlade
So i truly I truly don't know. But it was a fantastic sequence. And I was like, oh, yeah, this is the Chris Nolan that I that i fuck with. You know what I mean?
00:33:02
Steve-O
I think, I think that the Odyssey is just one of those things that like everybody kind of is like, this is kind of sick.
00:33:02
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude.
00:33:10
Steve-O
Like,
00:33:11
billfrankenstein
Yeah, everybody likes the Odyssey.
00:33:12
BeyBlade
yeah
00:33:13
Steve-O
Like when when you are taught that in school, you're like, ah okay, all right. we're We're just doing like superhero comic stuff now. But like.
00:33:20
billfrankenstein
I think that that's actually the book because when I was in middle school, I got really into Greek mythology because it was like the WWE.
00:33:27
BeyBlade
It's the best mythology, dude. Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:29
billfrankenstein
It was like wrestling, you know, and it was very dramatic.
00:33:30
Steve-O
yeah
00:33:30
BeyBlade
yeah
00:33:32
billfrankenstein
And then I read the Odyssey and there's like, there was one scene in it that like, I know he's going to do it right. It's the, it's his dog, Odysseus's dog.
00:33:45
billfrankenstein
Like it's at towards the end of the book. And he has to pretend that he's not Odysseus. Like when he comes back, because there's all these suitors in his house. So he's dressed like an old man and he sees his dog. He's still alive and he's like old and dying.
00:34:00
billfrankenstein
and He perks up. The dog perks up. But he can't interact with the dog. Because people would know it's him.
00:34:07
Steve-O
Hmm.
00:34:08
billfrankenstein
So he just walks away and he's crying.
00:34:08
BeyBlade
Hmm. Hmm.
00:34:12
billfrankenstein
As he's walking away.
00:34:13
Steve-O
messed up let' visit this That's that's.
00:34:14
billfrankenstein
Dude!
00:34:15
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:34:16
billfrankenstein
It hit me as a young adult very hard. And I know he's going to do that justice.
00:34:22
Steve-O
yeah
00:34:22
billfrankenstein
Like that whole sequence is going to be... It's probably going a short sequence. But like... It should be in there. and yeah, you're right. It's just the fucking awesome.
00:34:33
billfrankenstein
It's like a road trip story. And.
00:34:35
Steve-O
It's generational to like um I know like a lot of people listen to I think it's the soundtrack is called epic and it is just a like a musical telling of the Odyssey.
00:34:47
Steve-O
And it's kind of a banger. It's like a rock opera. And, you know, people just like love it. So I think it's just one of those things that like generation generationally. generationally is just like always in existence where it's like this is a cool thing and we want to see and like experience cool versions of it like over and over again.
00:35:07
billfrankenstein
It's a sequel.
00:35:08
Steve-O
Also sequel.
00:35:10
billfrankenstein
Which is like even cooler when you think about it.
00:35:12
Steve-O
What came for wait wait so so there was the Exodus or the Iliad ahh right.
00:35:12
billfrankenstein
And it's better. The Iliad.
00:35:16
BeyBlade
Iliad and then Odyssey's like, is that the first sequel? Like ever?
00:35:21
Steve-O
Wait was was the Iliad written first.
00:35:22
billfrankenstein
I don't know. Yeah, I think so.
00:35:24
BeyBlade
I think so.
00:35:25
billfrankenstein
I'm pretty sure.
00:35:26
Steve-O
Odyssey was written second. It wasn't like the first prequel.
00:35:27
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:35:29
billfrankenstein
Actually, I don't know.
00:35:30
BeyBlade
Oh boy.
00:35:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Is Odyssey Roman or Greek mythology?
00:35:31
billfrankenstein
Greek. Greek.
00:35:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Why did they pick Roman to name the planets, Chris, instead of Greek?
00:35:41
BeyBlade
So the Iliad came first, chronicling the final year of the Trojan War and the Odyssey's the sequel, detailing the journey home.
00:35:47
billfrankenstein
Because we based our calendar after the Julian calendar, and I think that's that's Roman in origin, I want to say.
00:35:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Okay. Or were Romans... Did Roman mythology... predate Greek mythology stuff?
00:36:02
billfrankenstein
No, Roman came after.
00:36:03
BeyBlade
No, no, Romans written.
00:36:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
No?
00:36:03
billfrankenstein
They actually stole all of, basically stole Greek mythology to build up their own mythology.
00:36:06
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:36:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Wow, okay. So it's probably a political thing.
00:36:13
billfrankenstein
Yeah. I mean, Rome was, they love Greek culture. There was like this whole Hellenistic period where they wanted to adopt like Greek culture, you know, without all the, you know, focus on men.
00:36:26
billfrankenstein
I think that was a big part of Roman thing where Greek culture loved the male body quite a bit, but Roman culture kind of moved away from that. They wanted more ah female bodies. So it the goddesses and a lot of the beautiful statuettes are of the female gods in the Roman pantheon. But that is also the Greek pantheon because they just stole everything.
00:36:54
Steve-O
They just ah changed all the names. they They give me your notes.
00:36:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah. the
00:36:59
Steve-O
Give me your notes and we'll just change them slightly.
00:37:00
BeyBlade
oh
00:37:02
billfrankenstein
Yeah, Rome did that a lot, apparently. so you know They also created democracy. so got that They got that going for
00:37:11
BeyBlade
Yeah, you know, give a little, take a little.
00:37:14
Steve-O
And crazy bread.
00:37:15
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:37:16
billfrankenstein
them. And maybe pizza too.
00:37:19
BeyBlade
Ooh.
00:37:20
Steve-O
Pizza pizza.
00:37:21
billfrankenstein
I think it started then. I'm not 100% sure on that one.
00:37:25
BeyBlade
Yeah. um So right after this, um I'm feeling pretty good right after this. You get like everything, like all the to welcome of stubs and all all this.
00:37:34
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:37:39
BeyBlade
And then where the movie should start, it's like this cuts to like a front house the front of a house. And some guy behind me gasps audibly. He's like, I was like, OK, this must be it.
00:37:50
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, yeah.
00:37:51
BeyBlade
This must be it. And it's ah you just you see a motorcycle riding down.
00:37:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh.
00:37:58
BeyBlade
and it's just like little piano you know keys playing.
00:38:02
billfrankenstein
Aw, man.
00:38:02
BeyBlade
And you see the guy.
00:38:03
billfrankenstein
daniel d
00:38:04
BeyBlade
You don't see the face. You see the body get off the bike.
00:38:07
billfrankenstein
be
00:38:08
BeyBlade
Slow pan up.
00:38:08
billfrankenstein
and
00:38:10
BeyBlade
Steve Rogers. You see him like gearing up, but he has a little baby.
00:38:14
billfrankenstein
woman
00:38:15
BeyBlade
He has a baby on it. You know, he has like the little baby satchel. And then you hear the Avengers theme and it just says Steve Rogers will return.
00:38:24
billfrankenstein
da
00:38:25
BeyBlade
And, um, and that's it. That's the whole thing. And I was like, fucking what, what did people, why were people excited?
00:38:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Wow.
00:38:33
BeyBlade
And I guess like, yeah, but it's like, it's common knowledge.
00:38:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Is it because Chris Evans is back? Like that kind of thing?
00:38:39
billfrankenstein
i thought that was that was already happening
00:38:43
BeyBlade
It's common knowledge that he's in it. I don't know why people were like one offended or upset. And two,
00:38:50
billfrankenstein
well no I am offended um but it's for it being so wing you know what i mean
00:38:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, it was unbelievably lame in compared to like the the hype it was getting.
00:38:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Haha.
00:39:04
BeyBlade
It's literally just he has a baby. Okay. And I guess it's in the past. So he's either going to get plucked. What I thought, like what what I had in my head, I was like, oh, they're going to like Announce that he's like Hydra a Captain America, right? Because it's Doomsday. it's It's multiverse. It could be anything, right? We can play. it We can do whatever we want with it.
00:39:26
BeyBlade
No, no, not at all. He was just like, okay, here here it is. Like, oh, that's cool, I guess.
00:39:34
billfrankenstein
If it was Hydra, Captain America, I would throw up on you, dude.
00:39:36
BeyBlade
ah Out of excitement or disgust?
00:39:39
billfrankenstein
Disgusting.
00:39:40
BeyBlade
Hmm. See, I'm here for it. Why not?
00:39:43
Steve-O
The throw up?
00:39:44
BeyBlade
What?
00:39:44
Steve-O
You're here for the throw I say i say you just give us you just give us Captain America with a baby and um I just say you just do it like a Lone Wolf and Cub and just give me that
00:39:45
BeyBlade
I'm here for the Chris.
00:39:45
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he's into the vomit.
00:39:47
BeyBlade
I'm here for the Hydra Captain in America. Because like what other, what better way could you kind of shove it in into in the people's faces?
00:39:55
billfrankenstein
I just don't think it's right right now. just don't want to see it.
00:39:58
BeyBlade
No.
00:39:58
billfrankenstein
Do it hurt me?
00:40:03
BeyBlade
But you have Captain America.
00:40:08
BeyBlade
you have sam You have Sam Wilson. Dude, if's but it's not it's not a movie about that.
00:40:12
billfrankenstein
I'd watch that.
00:40:14
BeyBlade
it's It's called Avengers Doomsday. like
00:40:17
Steve-O
I don't want that.
00:40:18
BeyBlade
You don't want that? You just want a ah ah another Lone Wolf and Cub type story with Captain America?
00:40:23
billfrankenstein
Sure.
00:40:24
BeyBlade
the The worst character to do a Lone Wolf and Cub story?
00:40:25
Steve-O
or even Or even Wolverine. you give ah You could give us that cool Wolverine story where he goes to Africa.
00:40:32
BeyBlade
don't know, dude.
00:40:33
Steve-O
like so you yeah
00:40:33
BeyBlade
I don't need that.
00:40:33
billfrankenstein
Oh, like when Ernest went there.
00:40:36
Steve-O
I never read that comic.
00:40:36
billfrankenstein
yeah I mean, that's well-trodden ground because Ernest was there.
00:40:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I never read that comic.
00:40:41
billfrankenstein
i we argue
00:40:43
BeyBlade
yeah
00:40:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Logan.
00:40:44
billfrankenstein
ah
00:40:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Just Logan, but with Captain America.
00:40:45
billfrankenstein
I mean, I don't even, I, I, we don't have three hours.
00:40:50
BeyBlade
we We could do a panel by panel breakdown.
00:40:50
AI_PLACEHOLDER
and then it's And then it's white. And then it's white patriot. It becomes white patriot.
00:40:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Man.
00:41:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yikes.
00:41:01
billfrankenstein
Yeah. That's a big yikes.
00:41:03
BeyBlade
Yeah. And then i saw ah I saw Avatar and it was it was good. It was decent.
00:41:07
billfrankenstein
Paved over all that.
00:41:07
AI_PLACEHOLDER
MFK.
00:41:08
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:41:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Was it better than the second one?
00:41:09
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:41:09
BeyBlade
Fuck.
00:41:12
BeyBlade
It's the same, dude. It's the same movie. So I guess slightly worse.
00:41:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You're pulling my hairs here, John. They're both amazing.
00:41:19
Steve-O
okay
00:41:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Both Keno.
00:41:21
BeyBlade
Yeah, you're pulling my ball in here.
00:41:21
Steve-O
You're asking me which which of my children to disown.
00:41:24
BeyBlade
Yeah. I'd say worse, I guess. And it kind of... um Yeah, you know, because he said he's like, listen...
00:41:36
BeyBlade
The story is, is this movie has to make like $2 billion dollars to be profitable.
00:41:41
Steve-O
He sounds kind of pissed when talking about it.
00:41:44
BeyBlade
Well, I, one, cause I don't think that's true, but two, I think, I think the story went is that he fucking screamed at Disney when he was getting the money for this.
00:41:54
billfrankenstein
yeah he was shocked that they wouldn't give him the money really he's like you guys don't want to make billions of dollars is that i'm hearing
00:41:57
BeyBlade
Yeah. He was like really mad. So, um,
00:42:03
BeyBlade
Yeah, he's like, are you
Avatar Franchise Financial Expectations
00:42:04
BeyBlade
idiots? Are you are you just fools? So he's he's also stated, like, if this doesn't make the money it needs to make, he's he's also willing to to move on, which, I mean, I don't want to say they button everything up, but it's like, it could end, I guess.
00:42:19
billfrankenstein
they scrape the the sully of it all off their boot?
00:42:26
BeyBlade
No, I mean, like, there's some dangling threads, I guess, but but like the whole culturally relevant thing, Like, I do agree. Like, it is wild that, like, it doesn't really have any sort of staying power.
00:42:41
BeyBlade
So I don't think anyone would be like, oh, what about, what about this plot with Spider and Quaritch?
00:42:42
billfrankenstein
Well, you gotta to have a good story for that.
00:42:48
billfrankenstein
Nobody cares about Spider.
00:42:49
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah, exactly. No one cares.
00:42:51
billfrankenstein
ah nobody Nobody cares about any of these characters.
00:42:52
Steve-O
I feel like if Avatar was like a full book series before they were movies, then it would be like a little bit more relevant.
00:43:02
BeyBlade
Yeah, but this is a regional a regional keynote, dude.
00:43:05
billfrankenstein
No, no, but it's I think what Steve's getting at is, like, these are really big worlds, and it's hard to...
00:43:05
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:43:05
BeyBlade
Sorry.
00:43:10
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:43:11
billfrankenstein
create this lore that's, you know, everlasting without making it a book, you know? Cause it's like, there's a lot going on Like when I watched the first Avatar movie, there's lot going on under the hood when it comes to the world that they're on Pandora.
00:43:18
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:43:27
billfrankenstein
Like there's, it just seems like there's a lot of stuff that we're not privy to. Right. And I feel like in these fantasy environments, it's always nice to have like a book to give you that.
00:43:39
Steve-O
Like a road map.
00:43:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah, something to...
00:43:43
BeyBlade
do You know, the roadmaps, the mystery. What could it be?
00:43:46
Steve-O
The mystery.
00:43:47
BeyBlade
What could it be, guys? Are they going to meet some sort of Earth Navi next?
00:43:49
Steve-O
i don't.
00:43:51
BeyBlade
Who knows?
00:43:52
Steve-O
No, it's just going to more water because he's stuck on water because he's water man.
00:43:57
BeyBlade
They got it Yeah, they I'll tell you this. They got move on. They got to move on from that.
00:44:02
billfrankenstein
He's never going to move on from that.
00:44:03
Steve-O
He's never going to move on.
00:44:04
billfrankenstein
You know that.
00:44:04
Steve-O
Unless if he does Terminator versus Avatar, which would be sick.
00:44:05
billfrankenstein
There's not enough water in that.
00:44:09
Steve-O
It would get me in the theater.
00:44:11
BeyBlade
I'll be honest, Terminator get washed immediately. Like, it's... It would get washed immediately. There's no chance.
00:44:19
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What if the Avatar...
00:44:19
Steve-O
All of the Terminator, all the Skynet.
00:44:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What if what if Terminator is the Avatar?
00:44:22
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:44:24
billfrankenstein
We find out at the end.
00:44:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And you're controlling... Yeah, John Connor is just controlling T-800.
00:44:29
Steve-O
Oh, and they get to the tree of life.
00:44:29
BeyBlade
Um...
00:44:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
after having After having...
00:44:31
billfrankenstein
need these blue sons of bitches to save Earth.
00:44:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
After having tail... After having tail sex with him. Or whatever it was in the first movie. Steve, you wouldn't know.
00:44:37
BeyBlade
You know, that the yeah, you wouldn't know, dude.
00:44:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Because you didn't watch it, Steve.
00:44:40
BeyBlade
You wouldn't even know about tail sacks.
00:44:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:44:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You wouldn't know about tail sex, Steve.
00:44:43
Steve-O
I'm familiar with, ah believe me, I've heard about enough. I've heard enough.
00:44:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's basically docking. It's basically docking, but with tails.
00:44:48
BeyBlade
Well, now there's interspecies tail sacks, dude.
00:44:51
billfrankenstein
all the all the All the benefits of docking, but with also...
00:44:51
BeyBlade
they're They're leading towards it.
00:44:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, really? There's hybrid Navi in this?
00:44:57
BeyBlade
you gotta You know what? got to watch it.
00:44:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You gotta watch it.
00:44:59
BeyBlade
You got to watch it.
00:44:59
Steve-O
You've got to watch it.
00:44:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm in.
00:45:00
billfrankenstein
ah got you there, John.
00:45:00
Steve-O
You've got to watch it
00:45:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm in.
00:45:02
billfrankenstein
He got you, buddy.
00:45:03
BeyBlade
Yeah, I'm in. Yeah.
00:45:06
Steve-O
John Suarez will return to Avatar.
00:45:06
BeyBlade
ah
00:45:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
John Suarez will return to Avatar.
00:45:10
BeyBlade
yeah
00:45:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's great.
00:45:13
BeyBlade
okay
00:45:14
billfrankenstein
um I watched something as well.
00:45:18
BeyBlade
yeah okay
00:45:19
Steve-O
Oh, ah you still but you're still plugging through.
00:45:19
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Oh yeah. A couple of things actually. Um, I watched the American revolution documentary by Ken Burns.
00:45:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Again? you watched it again? the fuck?
00:45:29
billfrankenstein
It's yeah all ah episodes.
00:45:31
Steve-O
It's multiple parts, multiple parts.
00:45:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Chris, we don't... Chris, come on, dog.
00:45:33
billfrankenstein
is mother one die yeah I love it.
00:45:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Bro.
00:45:36
billfrankenstein
i love it.
00:45:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Why?
00:45:37
billfrankenstein
I love it. Um, there, yeah, I'm on, I think I'm on part six now, uh, going over,
00:45:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i think this should be a Galanian chill, and I might be out that think.
00:45:48
Steve-O
Yeah. ah you're going to skip that day? well Well, he's on part six and there's only seven. So part six of seven.
00:45:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I'm getting to the... Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:45:58
Steve-O
yeah
00:45:59
BeyBlade
Wait, is there is it...
00:46:01
billfrankenstein
Yeah,
00:46:01
BeyBlade
don't spoil it.
00:46:02
Steve-O
ah
00:46:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:46:04
billfrankenstein
ah yeah I'm not going to spoil anything, but um I think I...
00:46:08
BeyBlade
What war is it?
00:46:08
billfrankenstein
i Oh, yeah?
00:46:08
BeyBlade
I can't remember. No, I literally...
00:46:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah
00:46:12
BeyBlade
can I'll be honest.
00:46:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Which one? Which one is it?
00:46:13
BeyBlade
I can't remember.
00:46:14
billfrankenstein
Anyway, I'll keep it short and sweet. I do really like it. it's very It's a very interesting look at what happened during the Revolution, about what George Washington was willing to do.
00:46:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Ken Burns is locked in, huh? He's locked in.
00:46:25
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude, these things are great. They're always fun to watch. And they get celebrities do the voices, like Mia Hawks, they're in it. They got, a what's his name? ah Oh, my God, why am I blank on his name?
00:46:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Simon Pegg?
00:46:36
billfrankenstein
Not Simon Pegg. They got the guy that was in Weapons.
00:46:39
Steve-O
Jim Varney.
00:46:42
billfrankenstein
Oh, my God. Brolin.
00:46:45
Steve-O
Oh, James Brolin.
00:46:45
billfrankenstein
he's He's, he's, Josh Brolin is, Jesus, Steve, what are you from the Yeah.
00:46:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Josh Brolin?
00:46:45
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:46:46
Steve-O
Josh Brolin.
00:46:47
AI_PLACEHOLDER
James Brolin.
00:46:48
Steve-O
James Brolin.
00:46:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, come on, dog.
00:46:51
Steve-O
but Oh, no.
00:46:52
billfrankenstein
ah home
00:46:54
Steve-O
My disguise.
00:46:55
billfrankenstein
Josh Brolin is George Washington. So he whenever George Washington is speaking or their speeches, he gives the the speech. um Yeah. And they got Paul Giamatti back as John Adams. Like, you can't go wrong. you can't go wrong with that.
00:47:11
billfrankenstein
um I also watched the newest episode of Pluribus. ah
00:47:17
BeyBlade
Isn't the last episode.
00:47:19
billfrankenstein
I think there's one more.
00:47:20
BeyBlade
Okay.
00:47:21
billfrankenstein
think there's one more. um And this was kind of like a like a romance. Like a love story in a lot of ways. And I don't want to give too much away because I don't know what you how much how many episodes you guys have watched. um The previous episode was phenomenal.
00:47:41
billfrankenstein
i don't know if we talked about that with I think his name's Mansua who's trekking through the rainforest because he refuses any help from the collective, uh, is fucking wonderful.
00:47:55
billfrankenstein
That was really, really good and beautiful too. Shows consistently well shot in every way.
00:48:01
Steve-O
well shot that
00:48:03
billfrankenstein
um and very expensive. Um, you can see the money, you know, every episode. And I respect that. I think there's a lot of TV shows on the air that have huge budgets nowadays, and it just doesn't look like it.
00:48:19
billfrankenstein
Um,
00:48:19
Steve-O
It goes to marketing.
00:48:21
billfrankenstein
Goes to marketing, you know? um Yeah. So I respect Pluribus knowing that Apple has all the money in the world and they can just bilk them for whatever.
00:48:31
billfrankenstein
It's fucking great, you know?
00:48:34
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:48:36
billfrankenstein
When you're making a TV show, to know that the person that's funding it is just endlessly wealthy.
00:48:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Is endless infinite money, yeah.
00:48:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah, yeah. um It gives you, I think, a sense of freedom, too. And the show is consistently a slow burn too they're letting it kind of just do its thing and it's one of the reasons I love Better Call Saul in retrospect because they they just AFC let him do whatever he wanted and it was a slower paced show that really built up to some of the more dramatic moments I've ever seen on television so I'm I'm totally on board with doing that again
00:48:59
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:49:15
billfrankenstein
and yeah, this is great. I really love this show quite a bit.
00:49:20
BeyBlade
Where's it rank in terms of like a shows this year for you?
00:49:25
billfrankenstein
It's pretty high up there. I think, um alien earth is still my favorite, um, that i I can think of.
00:49:27
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:49:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Thank
00:49:32
billfrankenstein
Like that's the first one that's always coming up when I think of my favorite show of the year. Um, I know there was something earlier this year, but it's, I think me not remembering it is also a problem.
00:49:45
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:49:45
billfrankenstein
You know, i know there was something that we were talking about as far as TV shows go. That was quite good. it was the end of something. oh
00:49:57
BeyBlade
severance severance ending yeah
00:49:58
billfrankenstein
Was it Severance? Yeah, that was the beginning of this year, wasn't it?
00:50:04
billfrankenstein
Yeah, no, that's not my favorite show of the year.
00:50:07
BeyBlade
it's a count it's a dispatch situation yeah Chris Chris you'll find out you you can make that decision
00:50:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah Stranger Things.
00:50:13
billfrankenstein
Stranger Things is... I will find out. I felt like the first episode was a little slow. So I'm like... That one I'm... And it's still not finished.
00:50:24
billfrankenstein
So, ah you know.
00:50:25
BeyBlade
you know Speaking of slow, did you guys watch the fallout?
00:50:29
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that first episode was...
00:50:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't watch Fallout.
00:50:31
billfrankenstein
was
00:50:31
Steve-O
I have not.
00:50:31
BeyBlade
The first episode was so... like it I'll be honest.
00:50:33
billfrankenstein
I did watch that as well. Yeah.
00:50:36
BeyBlade
You could wait a week.
00:50:37
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:50:38
BeyBlade
ti you know It's good. It wasn't bad. But it's set up.
00:50:41
billfrankenstein
It's set up. Set up and introducing characters and and settings and stuff.
00:50:43
BeyBlade
It was all set up.
00:50:47
billfrankenstein
It's a little bit of fan service, too.
00:50:49
BeyBlade
Yeah. That one snuck up on me. Wednesdays. that' ah It comes out on Wednesdays.
00:50:53
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. It's still down, though. It's getting crazy reviews, so... and just...
00:51:00
BeyBlade
Yeah, like it was it certainly wasn't bad, but it was, you know, I was i was like, oh, okay. Is anything going happen?
00:51:10
BeyBlade
And then it ended. And I was like, I guess, I guess not.
00:51:12
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. i I felt exactly the same.
00:51:16
BeyBlade
but
00:51:17
billfrankenstein
um I did feel the same way about the first episode of Stranger Things, too. And that is great. You know, like, it's...
00:51:24
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:51:25
billfrankenstein
It's gotta cook. It's gotta cook. Let them cook, Devin.
00:51:29
BeyBlade
um
00:51:29
billfrankenstein
them cook.
00:51:31
BeyBlade
You know what? i I won't delve too deep into this, but I finally got one of those. feels good to get something off your like like your your list, right?
00:51:40
billfrankenstein
Chest. Chest.
00:51:42
BeyBlade
Like, the the whole though like i got to make time for that.
00:51:43
billfrankenstein
Oh, okay.
00:51:45
BeyBlade
And I made time for two movies this last few weeks. ah One of them was Perfect Blue.
00:51:53
billfrankenstein
Oh boy.
00:51:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh shit, you watched it?
00:51:54
BeyBlade
um Yeah, I was like, I'm going to fucking make time for I liked it.
00:51:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
you love it
00:51:58
BeyBlade
um i Love is strong. um I think it's a bit, I think if I saw it at the time, i don't want to say overrate it.
00:52:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Overrated?
00:52:11
BeyBlade
Because like I think if it's insanely good for its time.
00:52:15
billfrankenstein
It's very shocking. It's very...
00:52:17
BeyBlade
Yeah, i won't I won't think I was terribly shocked in 2025. You know what I mean?
00:52:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right, right, right, right, right.
00:52:25
BeyBlade
It's just a bad thing, but it was just, ah it was very, very good. And um something that I just, I don't know why I never gave it the time of the day, but I watched Hunt for Red October.
00:52:37
BeyBlade
i
00:52:37
Steve-O
Oh.
00:52:37
billfrankenstein
It's a rad fucking movie, dude.
00:52:39
BeyBlade
Yeah, a McTiernan hole that's been in my resume, and I was very glad to fill it. um And then it kind of got me thinking ah if I should
00:52:56
BeyBlade
mentally put together some sort of collection of Jack Ryan movies. Even though like put that sounds like a nightmare in terms of like...
00:53:04
billfrankenstein
I will say, i think ah Clear and Present Danger and Patriot Games, I think they pale in comparison to The Hunt for the Rocktober.
00:53:08
BeyBlade
present Presentation.
00:53:15
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:53:15
billfrankenstein
think The Hunt for Rocktober is a fuller movie. movie
00:53:19
BeyBlade
What's the thing? Like, I mean, could you imagine like, and i and I know there's like a Jack Ryan TV show right
Jack Ryan and Cinematic Universes
00:53:25
BeyBlade
now. Like i I'm aware of that, but like Jack Ryan in 2025, would have been this crazy collection of of interconnected films.
00:53:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Thank
00:53:37
BeyBlade
And it's just really fun and funny to me that like all throughout the nineties and early two thousands, it's like throw a dot. And this movie just happened to be a movie with a different actor whose name just happens to be Jack Ryan.
00:53:51
BeyBlade
And I'm like, that's really fascinating to me. Cause like nobody really cares. No one's like, Oh, it's the next big Jack.
00:53:56
billfrankenstein
Well,
00:53:57
BeyBlade
Like nobody treated it like James Bond, right?
00:54:00
billfrankenstein
I think that's what Tom Clancy was intending with Jack Ryan.
00:54:00
BeyBlade
They're not like Oh, it's new Jack Ryan movie, you know?
00:54:04
billfrankenstein
Like, he wanted a James Bond, American James Bond, basically.
00:54:04
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:54:05
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:07
BeyBlade
Yeah, but it certainly never, had it's just like, this is a good movie and the guy, just it just happens to be Jack Ryan, you know?
00:54:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Thank you.
00:54:13
billfrankenstein
I think, I think, um I like the portrayal of Jack Ryan being, like, an analyst.
00:54:19
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:54:20
billfrankenstein
I like him, like, instead of being, like, an action hero, like, being the guy, like, no, I know who this... villain that everybody thinks is a villain is and he's not like just I need to talk to him like that is so compelling in Hunt for the Rocktober he cuts through all the bureaucracy and he cuts through all of like the high levels of military by just being like ah yes and he knows the guy he's like I know him this is the truth you gotta listen to me you know um I really love that about that movie
00:54:36
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm.
00:54:44
BeyBlade
Yeah, he's like a dog with a bone. Like he has an idea and he just can't let it go.
00:54:55
BeyBlade
Yeah. And also like there's there's but like there's lore that's tied to it that like you never know about. Right. They're like, he's oh, how's the back? Oh, it's fine. And you find out like later they're like, oh, yeah, yeah.
00:55:05
billfrankenstein
I
00:55:07
BeyBlade
This this back incident. And i again, it it got me wanting to look into it, but then I was like, dude, I should just fucking swatch all of the Jack Ryan movies.
00:55:20
billfrankenstein
Hunt for October also has like a fucking bomb ass cast too like it's just whew that cast is ridiculous
00:55:24
BeyBlade
Nah, dude, I mean, that's that's a McTiernan thing, dude. i I was telling Jenny, I was like, no I've never seen a director... and Maybe it's writer, director, right? But I'm just saying it just seems I'm going to say director because it's all of his moves. Like I've never seen a a director be able to make every other character just as interesting as the main character.
00:55:48
BeyBlade
Like.
00:55:48
billfrankenstein
It's good performances.
00:55:49
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's good performances, but like there's always something like everybody has a little bit of something to do or say and like.
00:55:57
billfrankenstein
Like Sam Neill's character in Home for October is, is you could you would consider ancillary, but like really tragic.
00:56:08
billfrankenstein
and that
00:56:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, like they have that cute, cute they have that nice moment talking about
Submarine Movie Classics
00:56:12
BeyBlade
Montana.
00:56:12
billfrankenstein
Yeah. wants to go to Montana.
00:56:13
BeyBlade
There's the Scott Glenn as the other commander of the other sub.
00:56:13
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:56:18
BeyBlade
Tim Curry.
00:56:18
billfrankenstein
Tim Curry fucking ah holding the line, not knowing what's going on like thinking he was still loyal.
00:56:24
BeyBlade
Yeah,
00:56:26
billfrankenstein
Like it's just, it's just the acting and fucking James Earl Jones, like in there too. Like yeah, that movie's got hitters.
00:56:37
billfrankenstein
Oh, and fucking Sean Connery.
00:56:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, of course, of course, Sean Connery.
00:56:41
billfrankenstein
Like, and yeah, that movie is wonderful.
00:56:45
BeyBlade
Oh, Jeffrey Jones, right, Chris? You love you love Jeffrey Jones, right?
00:56:46
billfrankenstein
Jeffrey Jones.
00:56:52
billfrankenstein
I think he loves too many people.
00:56:52
BeyBlade
Nah, nah.
00:56:54
billfrankenstein
you know i Allegedly.
00:56:55
BeyBlade
Stellan Skarsgård's in it.
00:56:58
billfrankenstein
That's right. And he is.
00:56:59
BeyBlade
And obviously, you know,
00:57:00
billfrankenstein
who Evil.
00:57:04
BeyBlade
Alec Baldwin as Jack Ryan. I think a perfectly fine You know, performance by a Alec Baldwin. Yeah, dude. like And then made me kind of be like, should I just get into... It made me want to do two things. One, get into Jack Ryan lore.
Magic in Cinema: Now You See Me vs The Prestige
00:57:20
BeyBlade
And two, get into submarine movies.
00:57:24
billfrankenstein
Oh, like Das Boat.
00:57:25
BeyBlade
Yeah, and like Yeah, dude. Yeah.
00:57:28
billfrankenstein
Das Boat is that's a sad one.
00:57:32
BeyBlade
yeah dude
00:57:33
billfrankenstein
Claustrophobic.
00:57:33
AI_PLACEHOLDER
or Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning.
00:57:37
BeyBlade
yeah
00:57:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What about that one?
00:57:38
billfrankenstein
Get your goon coffin.
00:57:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What about, yeah.
00:57:39
billfrankenstein
Watch that one.
00:57:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What about that sub movie?
00:57:42
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah. Dude. Yeah, I mean, you must be out. ch Imagine if there was, John, imagine if there was like that guy for every scene in, and that's Hunt for Red October.
00:57:47
billfrankenstein
Crimson Tide.
00:57:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:57:56
BeyBlade
There's always like a somebody that's standout, a standout personality.
00:57:59
billfrankenstein
even the Even the sound guy, he was fun on the sub.
00:58:02
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude. ah Fucking ah Courtney Vance.
00:58:03
billfrankenstein
He was a fun character.
00:58:07
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:58:07
billfrankenstein
Even though he played like a good version of the guy from Die Hard.
00:58:11
BeyBlade
he
00:58:11
billfrankenstein
You know what I mean?
00:58:12
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:58:13
billfrankenstein
like Same type of character.
00:58:15
BeyBlade
Yeah, it did. So that was a fucking in good flick, man. Worth watching on whatever I watched it on.
00:58:22
billfrankenstein
Mm-hmm.
00:58:24
BeyBlade
I don't even know what I watched it on, but it was good. You can find it.
00:58:27
billfrankenstein
Oh, no.
00:58:27
BeyBlade
It's on one of the services.
00:58:30
Steve-O
I've been doing a little work with some movie watching.
00:58:33
billfrankenstein
Oh, no.
00:58:33
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, shit.
00:58:34
BeyBlade
That sounded pervy.
00:58:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Okay.
00:58:36
BeyBlade
I don't know why.
00:58:36
Steve-O
no, no. no
00:58:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Insert obscure anime title.
00:58:38
Steve-O
it's it's
00:58:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, yeah,
00:58:40
Steve-O
It's called a research. And believe me, it is the ultimate anime.
00:58:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
oh yeah baby.
00:58:45
Steve-O
Let's just say I watched the first and second in a film series called now You See Me.
00:58:51
billfrankenstein
Oh, no.
00:58:53
BeyBlade
ah Oh, are you are you are you getting yourself worked up for the new one?
00:58:53
Steve-O
Do you believe in magic?
00:58:57
Steve-O
Yes. Yes. ah
00:58:59
BeyBlade
chi Yeah,
00:59:00
billfrankenstein
way
00:59:00
Steve-O
i'm I'm trying to finish the fight.
00:59:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's the magician, the magician's movie.
00:59:03
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude.
00:59:03
BeyBlade
yeah. yeah
00:59:03
Steve-O
Magician heist films. Yes.
00:59:05
billfrankenstein
Talk about a cast.
00:59:06
Steve-O
Oh my goodness.
00:59:09
BeyBlade
Actually, the cast is sick, dude. Okay.
00:59:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm not gonna lie, the last, the the trail, yeah, the trailer for the, ah the most recent one coming out was, was cool.
00:59:17
Steve-O
They're fun.
00:59:17
billfrankenstein
I gotta admit, that first movie is so fucking stupid.
00:59:18
Steve-O
They're fun little flicks.
00:59:21
billfrankenstein
Like, it's... and in It is...
00:59:22
BeyBlade
if the way you said The way you started that made me think you were going say something positive.
00:59:23
billfrankenstein
Like,
00:59:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, thought you were going to say that.
00:59:27
BeyBlade
I got to admit, I got to give him the flowers.
00:59:27
Steve-O
I've got to say, Paddington, watch your back.
00:59:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I have to admit, not going to lie, it was actually pretty horrible.
00:59:33
billfrankenstein
Those movies are
00:59:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's what Chris did.
00:59:36
billfrankenstein
the dumbest films.
00:59:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He had us in the first half.
00:59:39
billfrankenstein
The dumbest films I've seen.
00:59:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah Steve, who is the best character? Or the actor, I guess, from the cast?
00:59:44
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:59:45
Steve-O
Uh...
00:59:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Is it Dave Franco?
00:59:48
Steve-O
I think Dave Franco is like the most popular of, yeah, he's, he's kind of like the, he's like the wet works guy while ah Woody Harrelson is like, I don't know if they're actually magicians or actual like wizards.
00:59:50
BeyBlade
He's the bad boy, right? Bad boy magician.
00:59:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
The Renegade.
01:00:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Woody Harrison is just Hitch from...
01:00:05
Steve-O
He might, he might be a wizard.
01:00:05
BeyBlade
but okay. Okay, wait. Because because this is this is my issue with it.
01:00:07
billfrankenstein
Do you remember that scene, Steve? Do you remember that scene, Steve, with james or or Dave Franco where he had the walkie and he imitated Mike Ruffalo
01:00:16
Steve-O
Oh, he does Mark Ruffalo's voice perfect because it's just Mark Ruffalo's voice.
01:00:20
billfrankenstein
and his...
01:00:20
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:00:20
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude.
01:00:21
Steve-O
ABR over DeFranco.
01:00:22
BeyBlade
Yeah. yeah no so so So that leads me into my issue with like when I was seen the of the footage I've seen of it in the clips.
01:00:25
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:00:25
billfrankenstein
yeah they
01:00:31
BeyBlade
I'm like, there's no magic in like there's no trick in here. It's just like fucking ah special effects, like everything CG that they do or just frankly impossible, like mimicking somebody's voice.
01:00:48
Steve-O
You know what? That's the same thing they said in the Prestige, Devin.
01:00:52
billfrankenstein
um
01:00:53
BeyBlade
That's not true. That's not true at all.
01:00:55
billfrankenstein
you know it's funny when they were like I will use like Mark Ruffalo watch Dave Franco die right in that car crash and they explain the very convoluted plot that they did where they had a different car attached to a bus bus with a dead body in it and literally I think someone's like why would you go to all that like in the movie
01:01:10
Steve-O
To the front of the bus, yeah.
01:01:10
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:01:21
billfrankenstein
is like this this seems why would you do that and they're like we we're magicians yes so we love
01:01:26
Steve-O
they' You know, because they love the spectacle, Chris. They love this that they love the spotlight, even even if it kills them.
01:01:35
billfrankenstein
and then they had that shot of jesse isenberg with a big mustache
Celebrating Samuel L. Jackson and Iconic Voices
01:01:40
Steve-O
Oh, yeah.
01:01:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Sounds like Chris really liked this movie, to be honest.
01:01:43
BeyBlade
Yeah, Chris, I think you like
01:01:44
Steve-O
he's got a lot of He's got a lot of memories of it so...
01:01:47
billfrankenstein
so stupid
01:01:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
think Chris likes this.
01:01:49
billfrankenstein
It makes me laugh. It makes me laugh.
01:01:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
chris definitely chris Chris definitely liked it more than he liked Severance this this year.
01:01:51
Steve-O
it's it's
01:01:56
BeyBlade
Yeah,
01:01:56
Steve-O
oh youtube
01:01:58
billfrankenstein
I'm having more fun with it. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that.
01:02:01
Steve-O
It is, I would say that these movies are like, what if they just took the brakes off of the Ocean's Eleven movies and they were just allowed to do anything they wanted?
01:02:09
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Yes.
01:02:12
BeyBlade
you know
01:02:12
billfrankenstein
I was just thinking about Jesse Eisenberg with the mustache.
01:02:14
BeyBlade
yeah I was going to say, so so you love them, it sounds like, Steve.
01:02:17
Steve-O
um um' um They're very silly and I want to see the third one.
01:02:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You're into it. You're into it.
01:02:22
Steve-O
Because, that you know,
01:02:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Maybe I'll watch them too. i think sam I think Sam watched the first one.
01:02:27
billfrankenstein
They're so silly.
01:02:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i think she was into it. She's into shitty things like this sometimes. so is it actually magic or is it like Is it actually magic?
01:02:31
Steve-O
it is it is it is I would describe it as Ocean's Eleven with with the brakes removed and also Fast and the Furious but for magic.
01:02:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Or is it really all sleight of hand, the entire thing?
01:02:44
Steve-O
i Dude, I can't tell you. because like that's That's the thing, right?
01:02:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, shit. You know what? I'm in.
01:02:48
Steve-O
like
01:02:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Devin, do you watch these movies?
01:02:50
BeyBlade
No, no.
01:02:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I think we got to watch them then.
01:02:51
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:02:51
BeyBlade
I've seen clips.
01:02:52
Steve-O
Dude, Devin washes them and he shows up with like a bunch of playing cards tattooed on his other arm, I had to buy them.
01:02:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What's it streaming on?
01:02:58
billfrankenstein
Now
01:03:00
BeyBlade
it's Oh, my God.
01:03:01
Steve-O
i had to
01:03:01
BeyBlade
You have the Blu-rays?
01:03:02
Steve-O
I had to buy them. i built
01:03:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, wait, it says, oh, it says requires add-on for Amazon Prime.
01:03:06
Steve-O
i think I think they just have an Apple TV bundle if you want to buy all three of them because you can buy the third one now.
01:03:14
billfrankenstein
you see me.
01:03:15
Steve-O
Now you see.
01:03:16
billfrankenstein
Now you see me too.
01:03:16
Steve-O
they They learned. They learned from the third one. They called it Now You See Me, Now You Don't.
01:03:20
billfrankenstein
Now you don't. They learn.
01:03:22
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, which is what the second one should have been called, but, you know.
01:03:22
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, couldn't.
01:03:25
billfrankenstein
Of course!
01:03:25
Steve-O
Right.
01:03:28
billfrankenstein
Now you see me too.
01:03:28
BeyBlade
What do
01:03:29
Steve-O
They should have called the third one Now You Three Me.
01:03:31
billfrankenstein
Yeah, easy.
01:03:32
BeyBlade
you get?
01:03:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, there's a Pokemon, actually.
01:03:33
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:03:34
BeyBlade
Alakazam, you know?
01:03:35
Steve-O
Oh, abracadabra.
01:03:37
BeyBlade
Yeah, Abracadabra and Alakazam. Those are Pokemon.
01:03:41
Steve-O
Those are Pokemon.
01:03:43
BeyBlade
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, guys.
01:03:45
Steve-O
Happy 77th birthday to Samuel Jackson.
01:03:48
BeyBlade
Oh.
01:03:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I thought were to say happy 77th birthday to Pokemon. I thought that's what you were going to say.
01:03:52
Steve-O
Happy 77th birthday to Pokemon.
01:03:53
BeyBlade
Thank you.
01:03:54
billfrankenstein
Jesus Christ, they've been around that long?
01:03:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i was like, wait, what?
01:03:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:03:57
Steve-O
They've made enough money to be that that eternal.
01:03:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, damn. To be eternal at this point.
01:04:01
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:04:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i was like, shit, bro.
01:04:04
billfrankenstein
77th birthday Samuel hu wow apparently his use of curse words in movies was due to the fact that he had a stutter as a child and curse words helped him yeah I know right well it's it's it's actually stolen from James Earl Jones who said that he was mute for like
01:04:13
Steve-O
So he just replaced that with cursing.
01:04:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Did I stutter?
01:04:17
Steve-O
I think that's like a real like iffy excuse for just wanting to curse.
01:04:18
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Bye.
01:04:24
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:04:30
billfrankenstein
12 years of his life. And then when he started talking, it was like molasses, beautiful and lovely.
01:04:34
BeyBlade
Really?
01:04:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:04:37
Steve-O
Oh, he saved it.
01:04:39
billfrankenstein
He saved it up and it concentrated and became his voice.
01:04:39
Steve-O
His voice was like a fine wine.
01:04:44
Steve-O
If you don't talk as a child and the first time you talk is like when you're a teen.
01:04:51
billfrankenstein
This is CNN. You say that out loud at the beginning of your life.
01:04:55
Steve-O
It's booming.
01:04:56
BeyBlade
yeah You know, that happened to the ah the the ninety the movie trailer voice guy in like the 90s.
01:04:57
billfrankenstein
You know.
01:05:03
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:05:04
BeyBlade
He said ah one day he just went through puberty and he didn't talk for like two weeks. And the teacher was like, yo, what is your fucking issue?
01:05:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Thank
01:05:14
BeyBlade
was like, what do you want me to say?
01:05:16
billfrankenstein
In a world.
01:05:16
BeyBlade
like at least Yeah, you know.
01:05:17
Steve-O
In a world.
01:05:19
BeyBlade
Yeah. So he's like, oh, okay. I didn't know you were a psycho.
01:05:24
Steve-O
They just really got rid of that guy entirely.
01:05:25
BeyBlade
Oh,
01:05:28
BeyBlade
I think he died.
01:05:28
billfrankenstein
Yeah, they rubbed him up. They rubbed him out.
01:05:29
BeyBlade
I think he died, actually.
01:05:31
billfrankenstein
They rubbed him out. He got killed.
01:05:32
Steve-O
Yeah, but there's still like people with like buttery voices.
01:05:35
billfrankenstein
They all died.
01:05:35
BeyBlade
oh Oh, you mean like that guy?
01:05:37
Steve-O
Yeah, like that role is not needed in trailers anymore.
01:05:37
BeyBlade
like Not him, specifically.
01:05:40
billfrankenstein
They all died.
01:05:41
BeyBlade
know it's kind of a shit Yeah, I mean, honestly, is that he has that, ah yeah, theyve we've done a purge.
01:05:42
Steve-O
They all died. if There was like...
01:05:43
billfrankenstein
he hold the hide
01:05:47
billfrankenstein
It's over.
01:05:47
Steve-O
Thanos did the snap.
01:05:49
BeyBlade
Well, the one guy does, ah he's the YouTube guy now. The YouTube guy. He does like the Honest Trailers or whatever.
01:05:57
Steve-O
Okay.
01:05:57
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah.
01:05:57
BeyBlade
Like, whatever that guy is, I think that's what he does now.
01:06:01
Steve-O
In a world.
01:06:03
billfrankenstein
As far as commercials go, it's usually just Jon Hamm and John Cena that I've been hearing.
01:06:06
BeyBlade
It's celebrities. Yeah. Isn't weird when it's like, it's John Cena and like no one no one cops to it.
01:06:09
Steve-O
You will...
01:06:13
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:06:15
BeyBlade
And I'm like,
01:06:16
billfrankenstein
Well, John Cena was in an ad in Pluribus. i don't know if you guys saw that. Did you guys see that? Oh, shit. I'm keeping my mouth shut then. You didn't see that?
01:06:25
Steve-O
No.
01:06:26
billfrankenstein
well
01:06:26
BeyBlade
It'll be fine.
01:06:27
Steve-O
umm
01:06:27
BeyBlade
It'll be fine.
01:06:28
Steve-O
Yeah, don't worry. Don't worry. um
Gaming, Sports Rivalries, and Streaming
01:06:31
Steve-O
I know Matthew McConaughey signed a deal with Eleven Labs, so you can just like AI generate his voice for whatever now.
01:06:41
billfrankenstein
All right, all right, all right.
01:06:42
BeyBlade
Sick. Can't wait for that. Yeah.
01:06:45
billfrankenstein
How many times can you get it to say all right before it breaks the data center? All
01:06:49
Steve-O
it just yeah It just catches on fire and Eddington happens.
01:06:53
billfrankenstein
right.
01:06:55
Steve-O
um
01:06:55
billfrankenstein
All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.
01:06:57
Steve-O
Now, fellas, yeah. Or now, ladies, that's it. What's cool with me? That would be fun if like we figured out how to how to just turn everything into Hey Ya.
01:07:13
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it's all trending that way anyway.
01:07:17
Steve-O
Like, come on, Devin. Are you telling me in the middle of um of ah what's the the I was thinking of Avengers Doom Doomsday.
01:07:23
BeyBlade
Avatar fire and ash.
01:07:26
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:07:27
Steve-O
If like in the middle of it, Dr. Doom just did like a three minute like musical number to Hey, yeah.
01:07:35
BeyBlade
Hmm.
01:07:37
Steve-O
Because that kind of happens in Zootopia, too.
01:07:37
billfrankenstein
You might want to give i were to give Kevin Feige a call.
01:07:39
Steve-O
I'm bringing it up again. and
01:07:42
BeyBlade
Oh, the movie with the giraffe you want to have sex with.
01:07:44
Steve-O
It's not a giraffe. It's a gazelle, stupid.
01:07:46
BeyBlade
I'm sorry. My mistake.
01:07:50
billfrankenstein
Wow.
01:07:50
Steve-O
I stand corrected. Please,
01:07:51
billfrankenstein
Holy... Holy Tledo.
01:07:54
Steve-O
take the bench.
01:07:55
billfrankenstein
I
01:07:55
Steve-O
Tutopia.
01:07:56
BeyBlade
You know what? cede my time, Your Honor.
01:07:58
Steve-O
No.
01:08:01
Steve-O
please take the bench um
01:08:05
billfrankenstein
gotta see the Zootopia movie.
01:08:07
Steve-O
tutopia
01:08:08
billfrankenstein
Zootopia.
01:08:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
utopia, baby.
01:08:09
BeyBlade
Yeah, you'll see a Giselle.
01:08:10
billfrankenstein
I know! It's what I want to see, Devin!
01:08:11
BeyBlade
Or a gazelle.
01:08:13
Steve-O
dead
01:08:16
billfrankenstein
Duh!
01:08:16
BeyBlade
You'll see Tom Brady's ex-wife. He's hanging out.
01:08:18
billfrankenstein
ah
01:08:20
Steve-O
um
01:08:20
billfrankenstein
How do
01:08:23
Steve-O
Yeah, like there's been there's been a lot in the past few weeks of like stuff. ah We found out who our our fantasy games winner was because there's just nothing else. There's just nothing else to combat it.
01:08:40
Steve-O
So congratulations.
01:08:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, now he's all like, what are we drafting again?
01:08:40
billfrankenstein
and you guys feel?
01:08:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
want to do this again.
01:08:44
Steve-O
I want to win a wind again.
01:08:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i need to do my victory lap.
01:08:49
BeyBlade
I'm pretty sure, you know, you give me 10 minutes in the edit tool and I think I'm going to win, guys.
01:08:50
Steve-O
I need to win again.
01:08:55
Steve-O
i mean
01:08:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Could you imagine it if you just fucking took your ball, go?
01:08:57
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude.
01:08:58
billfrankenstein
You're going change the scores like in war games?
01:09:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You're like that...
01:09:02
billfrankenstein
You're hack it?
01:09:04
BeyBlade
don't have to hack it.
01:09:04
billfrankenstein
What are you, Trump?
01:09:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah you're ah You're like that episode of X-Men where fucking Wolverine just flattens the fucking basketball with his claws.
01:09:05
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:09:12
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:09:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He just walked away because lost.
01:09:12
Steve-O
ah
01:09:14
billfrankenstein
You got to... You got You should
01:09:15
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Did that happen in episode X-Men?
01:09:17
BeyBlade
That's a comic or it's like every time they play basketball, I think.
01:09:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Every meme.
01:09:22
billfrankenstein
storm the Capitol, Devin.
01:09:22
BeyBlade
God
01:09:22
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Because he's so short. Because he's so short. He's so bad at basketball.
01:09:26
BeyBlade
damn it. That stings, dude.
01:09:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
cyclop Cyclops is doing fucking 360 reverse windmill dunks.
01:09:32
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:09:33
Steve-O
Let me win.
01:09:35
BeyBlade
You know, is the first time I've even logged in since since I knew I wasn't going win. It hurts.
01:09:43
Steve-O
and i get that.
01:09:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Wow.
01:09:43
Steve-O
Believe me, when I when Mind's Eye came out and sank me, it took me like three minute months to like.
01:09:50
BeyBlade
Yeah, you muted the chat.
01:09:51
Steve-O
I did. I did.
01:09:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, and it's not like my case where I got to play an amazing game i that I counterpicked anyway, so it didn't matter to me.
01:09:58
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, you just got...
01:10:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I was okay with it, you know?
01:10:04
BeyBlade
Yeah, so you know what? Officially, just because I don't want to hear about it. Officially, congrats to Reign, official winner of the 2025 anti-fanboy fantasy critic.
01:10:18
BeyBlade
Yeah, I feel, I agree. You know what? It's just like, it's just like when Sting wrestled Jeff Hardy at TNA.
01:10:27
Steve-O
Oh, and Jeff Hardy was inebriated.
01:10:28
BeyBlade
Jeff Hardy was on drugs.
01:10:30
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:10:31
BeyBlade
It was just, and Sting stin good was saying, i agree when they were booing the match.
01:10:33
Steve-O
Stin.
01:10:38
BeyBlade
He was like, i agree. I don't know what you want me to say.
01:10:39
Steve-O
I agree. I'm with you.
01:10:42
billfrankenstein
You got booed, Devin?
01:10:43
BeyBlade
No, um Rain got booed.
01:10:45
Steve-O
Rain. Rain got booed for winning the ah the fantasy games.
01:10:48
BeyBlade
And I'm saying I agree.
01:10:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, he's ah good he's the mets he's the Mets guy and fucking rookie of the year.
01:10:49
BeyBlade
i agree with the booing.
01:10:50
billfrankenstein
He should get booed. That's
01:10:52
BeyBlade
The analogy doesn't work. I'm being frank.
01:10:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
and
01:10:56
billfrankenstein
how I feel about football. It's not the Eagles. I'm booing them. That's how it works, man.
01:11:00
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:11:00
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:11:01
BeyBlade
You're booing ah the Steelers with my guy. Hey, Roger.
01:11:05
Steve-O
Those are always booing the Steelers. If it's Pittsburgh, I'm booing.
01:11:06
BeyBlade
yeah
01:11:07
billfrankenstein
i Yeah, of course I'm going to boo this.
01:11:10
BeyBlade
Penguins, I'm booing.
01:11:10
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:11:11
BeyBlade
I was kind of ambivalent towards the the Steelers. I was like, eh, whatever.
01:11:15
billfrankenstein
both
01:11:16
Steve-O
You know what? To be fair, there were times in the Steelers like the history where I was like, okay, the bus, let's go.
01:11:16
BeyBlade
They were a team.
01:11:26
Steve-O
i got that.
01:11:28
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm. Yeah. yeah
01:11:29
billfrankenstein
What about the wife beater, Ben Roethlisberger?
01:11:31
Steve-O
Nah, that wasn't on my list.
01:11:33
billfrankenstein
There wasn't one.
01:11:33
Steve-O
No, no.
01:11:33
billfrankenstein
and A crazy man, Antonio Brown.
01:11:35
Steve-O
ah Cordell Stewart? Was that? ah
01:11:38
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he was on there.
01:11:39
Steve-O
Okay. Mm-hmm.
01:11:40
billfrankenstein
Kicker slash quarterback. Yeah.
01:11:43
Steve-O
I think I had a Cordell Stewart jersey at one point.
01:11:45
billfrankenstein
Are you big fan of DK Metcalf after you punched that fan today?
01:11:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I saw that. Like, what the fuck is he doing?
01:11:52
billfrankenstein
You like that guy?
01:11:53
Steve-O
I don't... I mean...
01:11:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You fan of Ron Artest for fucking curb stomping a fan at Malice at the Palace?
01:11:58
Steve-O
but
01:11:58
billfrankenstein
i mean, um hold on.
01:12:01
Steve-O
i I mean, Latrell Spreewell.
01:12:04
billfrankenstein
I mean, you're allowed to choke your coach.
01:12:05
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Choking his coach?
01:12:08
Steve-O
a Coach goes chair across gymnasium.
01:12:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah
01:12:10
BeyBlade
You see that guy?
01:12:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, what's that?
01:12:11
BeyBlade
Wait, did you see that ah DK Metcalf like punched a fan?
01:12:11
billfrankenstein
Who doesn't love that?
01:12:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Night?
01:12:14
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude.
01:12:15
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, punched the fan in the crowd in the crowd the face.
01:12:17
billfrankenstein
Of course.
01:12:17
BeyBlade
Or tried to, I guess. I don't know what the deal was.
01:12:19
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he whiffed it hard, but...
01:12:21
BeyBlade
Well, the guy's like 10 feet above him.
01:12:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
The guy should have taken it. That's a fucking lottery ticket right there, baby.
01:12:26
BeyBlade
I know. Yeah, dude.
01:12:26
Steve-O
Oh yeah.
01:12:27
Steve-O
Oh yeah.
01:12:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You know?
01:12:27
Steve-O
And you know how much you might have a lottery is high right now.
01:12:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You take that punch.
01:12:30
Steve-O
So you take that money and then you put that back into the lottery.
01:12:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, you take it. yeah you Take that lump sum. Take that lump sum, baby.
01:12:35
Steve-O
Just money on money. i want to, I want to delve into some of our news early because there's, there's definitely some, so some heaters in this one.
01:12:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Spice!
01:12:45
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:12:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Spice!
01:12:47
Steve-O
So who wants to, who wants to start down the list for us?
01:12:48
billfrankenstein
We got some spice.
01:12:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Spicy baby!
01:12:53
billfrankenstein
Oscar shock! Woo! YouTube wins TV rights to host Academy Awards beginning
01:12:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah with their
01:12:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
you know what you know what it'll good because fucking fuck whatever streaming service that we wouldn't even know that it would be on if it wasn't YouTube oh yeah it's just YouTube right yeah this is good for the consumer
01:13:06
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:13:11
BeyBlade
Yeah. You know, this, this actually, this, this ties into, this ties into another thing too.
01:13:16
billfrankenstein
i'm happy you with this
01:13:18
BeyBlade
Uh, so I might as well just mention it, but, ah the Keelys, uh, the numbers came in most watched thing more watched.
01:13:24
Steve-O
The Game Awards.
01:13:25
BeyBlade
Yeah. The game awards, uh, more watch Superbowl, 170
01:13:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
IMAX Keeleys.
01:13:29
billfrankenstein
More watching the Super
James Bond on Netflix and Film Quality
01:13:30
billfrankenstein
Bowl? Dang.
01:13:31
BeyBlade
million viewers.
01:13:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's how it was last year, yeah.
01:13:34
BeyBlade
Yeah, it broke last year's record. um
01:13:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And then, however much money fucking the high guard team gave Keeley to add that on top too as a sweetener.
01:13:37
BeyBlade
So I get it.
01:13:41
BeyBlade
holy Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like, yeah, dude. So listen, I'm not surprised at all that they're doing that because.
01:13:50
billfrankenstein
Guy's making money. He's got a Game Award show. His dad's a fucking camera. Do you see that?
01:13:56
BeyBlade
Yeah, well, his yeah his dad passed away and now had reincarnated into a camera.
01:13:56
Steve-O
Dude. Yeah.
01:13:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
His mom and dad.
01:14:01
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he's a fucking cameraman.
01:14:01
Steve-O
and And Christopher Nolan picked it up and said, I'm going to shoot the Odyssey with this.
01:14:06
BeyBlade
I'm going to shoot it with the Kili, dude.
01:14:07
billfrankenstein
With your father.
01:14:07
Steve-O
yeah
01:14:08
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
01:14:09
BeyBlade
That's kind sick, actually. You know, like, that's that's pretty sick, though.
01:14:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's pretty cool. Especially because like I think his mom's been working.
01:14:14
BeyBlade
Give me the give me the the Galani.
01:14:16
AI_PLACEHOLDER
His mom's been working for IMAX for like fucking forever too.
01:14:16
BeyBlade
You know? let be
01:14:20
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:14:20
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah.
01:14:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So it's like yeah.
01:14:20
Steve-O
Is that true?
01:14:21
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:14:21
billfrankenstein
Storied history.
01:14:22
BeyBlade
Yeah, both his parents worked at i probably Nepo higher, right?
01:14:22
Steve-O
I didn't.
01:14:22
billfrankenstein
Yeah, of course.
01:14:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah she's like and she's not like Yeah, she's not like ah an executive leadership team role.
01:14:25
BeyBlade
Let's be honest.
01:14:25
billfrankenstein
They literally have a camera named after them, I don't
01:14:26
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:14:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
like She's like a maintenance like camera person.
01:14:31
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:14:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
like She actually works on the camera.
01:14:32
Steve-O
That must be kind of wild because it's like, Jeffrey, when you grow up, do you want to get into the movies like we are?
01:14:32
billfrankenstein
There's a...
01:14:39
Steve-O
No.
01:14:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Nah, Mom, I'm going to make award show about about Mario.
01:14:43
billfrankenstein
Mario, madio Mario, Mario!
01:14:43
Steve-O
I'm going to do.
01:14:44
BeyBlade
yeah Pizza, pizza, pizza, radical, radical, radical.
01:14:48
billfrankenstein
Pizza, pizza, radical, radical!
01:14:48
BeyBlade
Yeah, just he's just the niggsturtle. That's what happened. um Yeah, man, that's ah interesting, right?
01:14:57
Steve-O
Yeah, I mean, like, you know.
01:14:58
BeyBlade
it's It's a feel-good story.
01:14:59
Steve-O
is it Is it, it's the TV rights. That's kind of strange because it's like, does that mean it's not going to be on a channel?
01:15:06
BeyBlade
I guess not.
01:15:06
Steve-O
It's just going to be just streamed?
01:15:08
billfrankenstein
There it is, man.
01:15:08
BeyBlade
I mean, frankly, dude, if I was like ABC...
01:15:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Who's hosting it? Who's hosting it?
01:15:11
Steve-O
I believe it's going to be Nakey Jakey or MatPat.
01:15:14
BeyBlade
Oh, you well, well, so the, huh?
01:15:16
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:15:18
billfrankenstein
Love that guy.
01:15:18
BeyBlade
So, so, so to clarify, this is not starting.
01:15:20
billfrankenstein
have sit on that big ball a whole night.
01:15:22
BeyBlade
Yeah. YouTube has the TV rights in 2029. So we gotta, so yeah, by then Nakey Jakey will be hosting.
01:15:26
Steve-O
o
01:15:29
Steve-O
Oh my god, no.
01:15:30
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:15:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Who's hosting it?
01:15:30
Steve-O
That's the worst scenario.
01:15:32
BeyBlade
By then he'll be big enough. I don't know who's hosting.
01:15:36
billfrankenstein
Hey, Snakey Jakey's.
01:15:36
BeyBlade
Did they even announce it?
01:15:39
billfrankenstein
rolling around on that ball.
01:15:39
BeyBlade
The Snakey Jakey. He calls them the Jakeys dude.
01:15:41
Steve-O
oh
01:15:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's Aiden Ross is the fucking co-host Puka Nakua.
01:15:44
Steve-O
oh my god no
01:15:44
BeyBlade
oh Oh, no.
01:15:45
billfrankenstein
Oh.
01:15:46
Steve-O
that's the worst scenario
01:15:49
billfrankenstein
Yeah, there'll be a lot of people there and won't be happy with that one dance he's planning.
01:15:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What a fucking idiot.
01:15:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, man. And then did you see all after all that shit from the stream, his brother got arrested for stealing a Lakers SUV like he stole a car?
01:16:07
billfrankenstein
Wow. Wow.
01:16:09
BeyBlade
Oh, I didn't even know that was the thing.
01:16:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, dude.
01:16:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And then he and then he drops like 200 yards and two touchdowns or whatever the next night.
01:16:10
billfrankenstein
Hey, he's the new Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown 2.0.
01:16:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, because what? He doesn't believe in CTE. Like, he doesn't believe concussions are real.
01:16:17
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:16:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Wait till he gets one.
01:16:21
BeyBlade
Jesus Christ.
01:16:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You know?
01:16:23
BeyBlade
He probably has a few already. And he's like, these ain't shit.
01:16:25
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah, that's why he's saying that.
01:16:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He might.
01:16:27
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:16:29
billfrankenstein
Oh, Lord.
01:16:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But yeah.
01:16:31
billfrankenstein
Anyway, Oscars, bald statue. Who doesn't love it being on YouTube? I do. Um... Davin, License to Kill. James Bond films to stream on Netflix as part of... SHOCKING MOVE!
01:16:45
BeyBlade
Yeah, I don't know.
01:16:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You know what, though?
01:16:46
BeyBlade
That's.
01:16:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Fuck that, though, because they're not even showing Casino Royale, at least.
01:16:50
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's it's ah Die Another Day, No Time to Die, Quantum of Solace.
01:16:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, what the hell?
01:16:53
billfrankenstein
Oh, it's only those specific movies?
01:16:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's like two, it's two really, it's two horribly bad James Bond movies.
01:16:55
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:16:56
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:17:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
One pretty bad James Bond movie. One good one. And one pretty good final one.
01:17:06
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it really runs the gamut, doesn't it?
01:17:06
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:17:08
Steve-O
what's the What's the best one on that? Skyfall? Hmm.
01:17:10
billfrankenstein
Skyfall.
01:17:10
BeyBlade
Oh, on this?
01:17:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Skyfall, yeah, yeah.
01:17:11
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's Skyfall.
01:17:12
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:17:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
For fucking Roger Deakins alone, scott Roger Deakins fucking carries that movie.
01:17:16
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:17:17
AI_PLACEHOLDER
it's You can watch it on mute and be entertained.
01:17:19
billfrankenstein
It's the prettiest Bond film ever made.
01:17:22
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah. puff Quite frankly, one of the prettiest movies I've ever seen, I think, in general.
01:17:25
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:17:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
like That's the one thing I take from it.
01:17:26
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:17:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And it's got low-key, this might be a hot take, but like probably my second favorite Bond song. like After listening to all of them again, I'm like, bro, the Skyfall song is actually fucking sick.
01:17:36
billfrankenstein
Okay.
01:17:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's actually a fucking banger.
01:17:43
billfrankenstein
I like the villain.
01:17:43
Steve-O
Skyfall!
01:17:43
BeyBlade
You know what?
01:17:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, exactly, that one.
01:17:45
BeyBlade
You know what? he's no ah He's no Jack Ryan.
01:17:49
billfrankenstein
Okay.
01:17:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Goldfinger.
01:17:49
BeyBlade
That's all I'm going
01:17:52
Steve-O
from plane.
01:17:52
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, jack ryan Jack Ryan would be fucking brains on a wall if he ran into if he ran it into Daniel Craig's James Bond.
01:17:56
BeyBlade
to say.
01:17:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Especially Quantum of Solace, fucking apps absolute James Bond.
01:17:59
Steve-O
yeah is
01:18:02
BeyBlade
No, no.
01:18:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Is the absolute yeah yeah is Quantum of Solace Bond the absolute version of James Bond?
01:18:04
BeyBlade
I'm talking about shadow
01:18:10
Steve-O
he fell from a plane
01:18:11
BeyBlade
Oh my God.
01:18:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Fucking ripping...
01:18:12
BeyBlade
Yeah. The guy who's just ripped door handles.
01:18:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ripping door handles off the doors. Like, what the fuck?
01:18:18
BeyBlade
Yeah. Falling from planes straight up.
01:18:18
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Stopping a... He stopped a motorcycle at top speed with just his arm, too. Like, it's like fucking... Yeah, that's absolute.
01:18:25
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:18:26
billfrankenstein
Bonds are sociable.
01:18:27
Steve-O
They were like, we need to we need to dial this back a little bit.
01:18:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's absolute Bond. You know what? Thinking about it, this should have been our favorite James Bond movie. The movie is just bad. Like, if the movie was okay, like, it would be...
01:18:37
billfrankenstein
It was written during a strike, wasn't it?
01:18:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'd be i'd be okay with all with all the fucking obnoxious shit.
01:18:41
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:18:41
billfrankenstein
Wasn't it written during a strike?
01:18:43
BeyBlade
That was, yeah, that was the one where Daniel Craig's like, yeah, I discovered I do not know how to screenwrite.
01:18:45
Steve-O
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
01:18:50
BeyBlade
Because they were like, you write it. And he's like, uh, okay.
01:18:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And it was like when that YouTube reviewer wrote, and fucking tell that to Zod snap neck, that guy.
01:18:54
BeyBlade
I'm bad at this.
01:18:57
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
01:19:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like if he wrote that.
01:19:04
Steve-O
You know, we're going to go back on Netflix and rewatch Quantum Solace and be like, I take it all back.
01:19:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah You know, man you know, we should we should do a rewatch of that.
01:19:08
Steve-O
Yeah. yeah
01:19:11
BeyBlade
Oh.
01:19:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I think we should. Maybe we should watch it together.
01:19:13
billfrankenstein
I've only seen it once and i barely remember it.
01:19:15
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I've only seen it once, too, and I was like, this is a horrible movie. And the the more remember...
01:19:18
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:19:19
AI_PLACEHOLDER
the like the The things that I remember the most from it is just the absolute Batman shit. Like the crazy, the superhuman side of Daniel Craig.
01:19:26
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:19:28
BeyBlade
i mean, that and him getting in a fight with the dork with an axe. And I was like, what? This is like, again, the most super powered Bond I've ever seen. And I'm like, he's struggling with like a businessman with a fire
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01:19:40
BeyBlade
axe.
01:19:41
BeyBlade
because he took water from Bolivia or whatever the fuck.
01:19:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I know, right? Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, imagine if some fucking normie... went after absolute Bruce Wayne with a fire axe, and he lost that fight. Like, you know?
01:19:52
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:19:52
Steve-O
Dude, that's just that Daredevil episode where it's like the bank robber versus Daredevil and everyone's like, what?
01:19:55
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah. The bank robber.
01:19:57
Steve-O
I
01:19:59
BeyBlade
Yeah, that that was Anthony Johnson versus Jake Paul.
01:20:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Who's the Bond girl? Who's the Bond girl on this one?
01:20:02
BeyBlade
It's like, why is this taking you more than two seconds?
01:20:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Ooh,
01:20:04
Steve-O
don't remember.
01:20:05
BeyBlade
i
01:20:06
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't know if her name, but brah.
01:20:06
BeyBlade
Uh, ooh. Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh.
01:20:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ha I'll post it on Shit Talk cover.
01:20:13
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. Post that good. Well, while you're... Wait, let me take a look. I was about to segue, but...
01:20:18
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
01:20:20
BeyBlade
ah
01:20:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Mm!
01:20:24
BeyBlade
Yeah, no, for sure. Yes, ma'am. What gets you more worked up?
01:20:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't even know what her name is.
01:20:30
BeyBlade
That Silk Song Sea of Sorrow? Official expansion.
01:20:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What worked up? What do you mean, worked up?
01:20:35
BeyBlade
You sound pretty worked up. You sound pretty worked up looking at that pretty, that beautiful woman.
01:20:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, I've been hype all week since they dropped that shit.
01:20:42
BeyBlade
I know. I know.
01:20:44
BeyBlade
I made ah i made a little – I took a little – wouldn't say a shot. I just took a little lightheaded jab.
01:20:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Now, give me Hornet all day.
01:20:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I know, you're just like, what?
01:20:50
BeyBlade
And you were like, you ruined – I was like, oh, I hope i hope it comes out in 2026.
01:20:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's never coming out, you fucking idiot! Fuck you!
01:20:54
billfrankenstein
Ha ha ha!
01:20:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm like, alright, dude, you know what?
01:20:58
BeyBlade
And you're like, fuck you and everything you stand for. This is my life, bud.
01:21:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He, um... Well, I mean, well, the thing is, is, like, the the Hollow Knight original DLCs came out within, the like, the first or second year of it.
01:21:03
BeyBlade
And was like, oh, my God.
01:21:06
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:21:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
of the
01:21:13
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:21:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So, it's like, I think this is a... I think they're i think they're in a good spot. Like, i don't think I honestly don't think they would show it.
01:21:19
BeyBlade
i so I think they know. They know better.
01:21:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, I don't they would show it unless unless it was coming out.
01:21:24
Steve-O
This is um like one of the little icons that appears in like the bottom left corner of of Hollow Knight 1, right? Where it's like there was like several.
01:21:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah. Yeah.
01:21:35
Steve-O
And they're free too, correct?
01:21:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
They're free and they're all integrated in the game. So it's like...
01:21:39
Steve-O
That's sick.
01:21:39
BeyBlade
yeah And this one this one' is free, too.
01:21:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, Waldo came across the fucking... The the fucking... Shin Akuma of the DLCs, like, by accident.
01:21:50
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:21:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And ah he's like I don't think I'm going to get through it. And I'm like, dude, just, you can't.
01:21:55
Steve-O
Just walk past it.
01:21:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm still getting through it right now.
01:21:56
Steve-O
Walk past.
01:21:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I'm, like, maxed out everything.
01:21:57
BeyBlade
you just can Yeah.
01:21:57
Steve-O
but
01:22:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But, you know, like, the trailer looks sick.
01:22:01
BeyBlade
okay
01:22:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It looks like, because they had, like, you don't you guys might you guys won't know anything, really, about, because you didn't play Silksong yet. But, yeah, you didn't play Silksong.
01:22:10
BeyBlade
I know.
01:22:11
Steve-O
you did You did buy me Silksong for my birthday, which I need to thank you for, John.
01:22:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But um it looks like, oh, yeah, dog. Well, you know, i just wanted to say, i just wanted to put the the bear quote in there.
01:22:21
Steve-O
you You put the seed. It was a good that was a good one.
01:22:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, I just i just wanted to do that. But, um they like it said in the ah in the official press release by Team Cherry that you're going to have new areas, new tools, which is pretty exciting.
01:22:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And um new new bosses, obviously. That's just a given. But, like, from the trailer alone, it looks like there's like a corpse on there, like a corpse thing that usually that's what you like stab with Hornet to get a new crest.
01:22:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So if they add a new crest, which would like change all of her attack patterns and stuff, like that's pretty cool if they add all that shit too.
01:23:04
Steve-O
That's super neat.
01:23:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And then you know being able to play through the game with that crest is pretty exciting.
01:23:04
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:23:08
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:23:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm actually pretty happy. I'm thinking about fucking you can slip my throat in my sleep if you want Devin but I'm thinking about playing through another playthrough again to max out some of the other or you know max or keep some of my other stuff open so that I could max out the new crest if I want to I don't know I'll just fucking do it now and then you know maybe I'll play it again play it again when it comes out and but um
01:23:14
BeyBlade
Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
01:23:28
BeyBlade
You should do that when you get a release date. I think. Oh my God. Oh my God. You know what? If train spotting was about video games, you'd be the main character.
01:23:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But not only not only did they announce that, though, the big...
01:23:43
billfrankenstein
Ha ha ha.
01:23:47
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I think somewhat just as big news is that they announced the fucking... like All these quality-of-life fixes to the original Hollow Knight, including updating the original Hollow Knight to Switch 2 edition.
01:23:56
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:23:57
BeyBlade
oh
01:24:00
Steve-O
Switch to edition for free, correct?
01:24:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Which is... for for Everything's free, dawg. If you bought the game, or if you spent a dollar on their Kickstarter, which would be best value, you get everything for free. Like, originally...
01:24:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You get everything for free, basically.
01:24:12
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:24:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So, like, um yeah, like, they switched, because the that was my main issue with the playing the first Haunt, which is, like, I'm actually pretty impressed with myself that I stuck with it, even though playing it on Switch 1 felt like fucking dog shit.
01:24:14
Steve-O
That's awesome.
01:24:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I complained about it constantly. I'm like, this this looks like fucking asshole on Switch 2. And it looked way better on the Steam Deck, like, way, way, way, way way better.
01:24:38
Steve-O
Mm.
01:24:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But um that's pretty cool.
01:24:41
Steve-O
Did they.
01:24:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
and like i now Now I'll have now have essentially four copies of the game on Nintendo Switch.
01:24:42
Steve-O
um
01:24:47
Steve-O
Did that switch to version already come out? Was it like a shadow drop?
01:24:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
No, no, no. it's ah I think ah it's not out yet, but they they said that ah that's going to come out.
01:24:54
Steve-O
OK.
01:24:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I would assume that's going to be the fucking soft feed. like they'll They'll throw that out there like like a few months before the DLC gets an even an an announced date.
01:25:03
Steve-O
Mm.
01:25:08
Steve-O
That's cool. That's awesome.
01:25:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah. All AI generated, the entire game, was made by ChatGPT.
01:25:12
Steve-O
ah I mean, you know, based on all the game of the year award winners and stuff like that.
01:25:16
AI_PLACEHOLDER
and Oh, you know what else is kind of a flex, too? And this this all goes with Megabonk as well. Both Megabonk and Silksong released their DLC like stuff like a a couple days after the Game Awards aired.
01:25:35
Steve-O
Yes.
01:25:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And then you know got all this really good press anyway.
01:25:39
Steve-O
e
01:25:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
it's kind of like they're... Kind of showing, you know, maybe high guard, you didn't have to drop 10 million from your marketing department to fucking showcase your game.
01:25:45
Steve-O
No.
01:25:45
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:25:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, yeah, it's good to get stuff like out there. And that's probably the biggest platform with the most exposure or whatever. But like, if your game is good enough, like, you know, just regular Internet hype will will be able to carry it.
01:26:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You know?
01:26:03
Steve-O
That's why people flocked away from E3, right? Like... like
01:26:06
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, because they don't you don't need anymore.
01:26:08
Steve-O
getting caught up in like the mass news releases and like just having your product get swept away.
01:26:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
and
01:26:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't know if this was a I don't know if this was a troll post either but like it seemed like when Team Cherry released the the official press release on their website their website crashed two so it's like it's like they but then they you know they mentioned that they have been working on it and that they're actually taking a break
01:26:20
BeyBlade
Healthy.
01:26:26
Steve-O
that makes sense.
01:26:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
for the holidays and stuff, which is, you know, good for them to do whatever you do.
01:26:38
BeyBlade
healthy
01:26:38
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:26:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
They, they literally deserve everything in the world.
01:26:38
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:26:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Those guys.
01:26:41
Steve-O
You know what's not taking a break?
01:26:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So,
01:26:44
Steve-O
Everybody at Naughty Dog.
01:26:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah Oh, Oh yeah. That, that,
01:26:49
billfrankenstein
Oh, crunch time, baby.
01:26:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What you think about that dog?
01:26:52
billfrankenstein
The crunch is in.
01:26:52
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I mean, I mean, I'm like, I'm like kind of torn on this as a, as the consumer.
01:26:53
BeyBlade
mandatory overtime.
01:27:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, i don't want to be like anti developer or whatever. but I feel like, you know, crunch sometimes is is needed. Like, it's not like people that don't make games don't crunch, you know?
01:27:15
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, there are people that out there that have to fucking grind it out.
01:27:15
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:27:19
AI_PLACEHOLDER
They got to pop their zins in and fucking really good go to town to get something done. And, you know, and just in general, life stuff too. Sometimes you got to crunch for life shit.
01:27:28
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:27:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like,
01:27:29
Steve-O
I think in, you know, in all aspects of life, there's going to be moments where you have to crunch. I don't think a perma work culture that is entirely like all crunch all the time is is good.
01:27:43
Steve-O
I think that's, that's probably terrible for burning out a bunch of talented people, but you know, I can understand when it's like, you know, certain times of the year where it's like, we have a lot of work, we got to get stuff done before like,
01:27:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right.
01:27:55
Steve-O
You know holiday break stuff like that. Let's you know, we might have to do a little bit of crunch so that way we can enjoy our break.
01:27:59
BeyBlade
Thank you.
01:28:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, but like if this is, yeah, also like if this means that they're not using generative AI to make shit happen, you know, isn't that better to pay your employees for overtime than have, you know, a fucking, a robot do some of the work so that your game can come out at a reasonable time too.
01:28:20
Steve-O
Do you It's a wild world to live in.
01:28:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, it's kind of a double, it's a double-edged sword a little bit, right?
01:28:22
Steve-O
It's a wild world to live in, right? Where it's like, I'd rather there be employees to crunch than just crunching machines.
01:28:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So,
01:28:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah. And again, They said mandated, you know, mandatory overtime, but that might not mean, that might mean like 10, 15 hours extra a week or something.
01:28:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That might mean that to just,
01:28:42
BeyBlade
Well, I think it's mandatory Saturdays or whatever I think it said, or weekends.
01:28:43
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:28:46
Steve-O
Hmm. Hmm.
01:28:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah.
01:28:47
Steve-O
That sucks.
01:28:47
BeyBlade
This is to, this apparently is to meet a, ah oh God, there's a term that i'm I'm blanking on that they use, like a milestone to to show Sony.
01:28:48
Steve-O
That kind of sucks. So let's be let's be honest. of
01:28:50
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude. That's fucking terrible.
01:28:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah like it might Yeah, it might be yeah it might be yeah and like it might be that too like to you know show the investors and stuff, and that's where you kind of have to draw the line.
01:29:01
BeyBlade
Like,
01:29:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But if this is a difference of like the game coming out 2027, or it's like an into the or a Spider-Verse situation where it might not come out until...
01:29:22
AI_PLACEHOLDER
When Spider-Verse comes out?
01:29:22
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:29:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
2028 or some shit?
01:29:24
Steve-O
Yeah, I think so. Something like that.
01:29:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Where we're not going to remember the fucking movie anymore?
01:29:29
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:29:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And it's because of all the...
01:29:30
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:29:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm i'm assuming it's because of all the all the alleged you know crunch yeah crunch tactics that they used to get the second movie out.
01:29:36
billfrankenstein
Controversy.
01:29:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
um I don't know.
01:29:42
BeyBlade
Yeah. They had a, so apparently several missed deadlines. I, you know what I think is kind of fucking wild though. Like, This is Naughty Dog, and they've struggled to get one game out.
01:29:54
BeyBlade
One real from the ground up game out in this entire generation.
01:29:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
01:29:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right.
01:29:59
BeyBlade
They've been struggling to do it.
01:30:00
Steve-O
Yeah, 2020 was their last full game.
01:30:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And do you do you think it's because they do do you think it's because they had the they had to change the culture because of all the bad press? Because of all the crunch?
01:30:08
BeyBlade
I mean, I think, you know, it's like COVID, then factions.
01:30:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Because they they kind of made it...
01:30:13
BeyBlade
actionions I think there was a lot of work in factions that they just dropped.
01:30:15
AI_PLACEHOLDER
In that in that Last of Us 2 development documentary, like they kind of basically they acknowledge it and then like kind of like said, yeah, we don't really...
01:30:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
we don't really fuck around like that anymore. Like, they don't they don't... They make it a point to not do it.
01:30:31
BeyBlade
Well, pretty funny because that has aged like milk. That comment.
01:30:36
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:30:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right, yeah.
01:30:38
BeyBlade
um Yeah, man. um So they're crunching to finalize a demo for Sony.
01:30:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Was this a Shryguy reveal?
01:30:47
BeyBlade
ah
01:30:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yes, it was, baby!
01:30:49
BeyBlade
Report. Yeah, yeah.
01:30:50
Steve-O
Try Guy exclusive.
01:30:51
BeyBlade
Bloomberg.
01:30:52
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Jason Schreier, you know what that means? Oh, dude, it's a fucking paid fucking...
01:30:55
BeyBlade
Yeah. Well, also Druckmann wasn't really around because he was fucking around with show.
01:30:57
Steve-O
That's Bloomberg, man.
01:30:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
article fucking
01:31:04
BeyBlade
So it's like...
01:31:05
Steve-O
Mm.
01:31:06
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah I mean yeah he made it a point to like he made ah an official announcement that he's stepping away from the show to work on the game and maybe it's because right and also I don't i don't want to I don't want to kick the man while he's getting dragged but he was fucking partying at the game awards like that's not really like
01:31:12
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah. But it's like, so yourre your game director's not there. ah Plus, the other game you're working on fell through and then...
01:31:28
BeyBlade
He's partying and then he comes in on Monday and says, oh, ah by the way.
01:31:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, by the way, you guys got come in Saturdays because we didn't show anything this year.
01:31:34
BeyBlade
Sorry.
01:31:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I got yelled at.
01:31:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:31:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i got yelled at.
01:31:40
BeyBlade
Be fair.
01:31:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Meanwhile, Team Cherry's like chilling.
01:31:40
BeyBlade
you
01:31:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Team Cherry's chilling, you know?
01:31:43
BeyBlade
Oh, i i mean Craig, Dave and Steve. Yeah, those guys.
01:31:48
Steve-O
Dude, they don't need to show.
01:31:49
BeyBlade
okay
01:31:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
man.
01:31:51
BeyBlade
They don't. You're right. You're right.
01:31:53
Steve-O
Come on, man.
01:31:53
BeyBlade
But ah yeah, just just interesting that.
01:31:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
The less employees, the less employees you have, the less chances of fucking bad press to leak out to the press.
01:32:02
BeyBlade
Yeah, exactly.
01:32:03
Steve-O
Yeah, I mean, you know.
01:32:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's more controlled.
01:32:03
BeyBlade
right
01:32:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's more controlled environment.
01:32:05
BeyBlade
You know that was some pissed off guy that was like, fuck it. What's what's shy guys number?
AI's Ethical Concerns in Gaming
01:32:10
BeyBlade
Let me text them.
01:32:10
Steve-O
I'm talking to him right now.
01:32:11
BeyBlade
They're making me come it up Saturdays. This is bullshit.
01:32:14
Steve-O
And Shrek guy's like, I got the big scoop.
01:32:16
BeyBlade
Yeah. Try guys fucking fangs extended like the little vampire that he is.
01:32:20
Steve-O
You know what was interesting?
01:32:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I wonder what their... Do you think Naughty Dog has a bunch of remote employees and stuff now, too, after 2020?
01:32:22
Steve-O
He didn't...
01:32:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
They
01:32:26
BeyBlade
Well, no, they they did.
01:32:26
Steve-O
I think they brought him back.
01:32:27
BeyBlade
and then.
01:32:28
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
01:32:29
BeyBlade
so no So the article mentioned specifically like, yo ah you know, you got to come back in office, my guys.
01:32:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
they brought him back.
01:32:36
BeyBlade
You can't.
01:32:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Well, maybe because people have been slacking, working from home.
01:32:37
BeyBlade
you can't be doing it Yeah. you So they were three days a week and now they have to come into the office five days a week.
01:32:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
hang
01:32:45
Steve-O
Ooh.
01:32:46
BeyBlade
yeah dude Dude, we got milestones to hit my guy.
01:32:47
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Well, hey, man.
01:32:47
Steve-O
Ooh. Ooh.
01:32:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Hey. Yeah.
01:32:50
BeyBlade
yeah Maybe when we stop missing fucking deadlines, you guys can jerk off on your lunch break.
01:32:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What's going on? What's going on at Santa Monica, by the way? You know, we nobody knows.
01:32:59
BeyBlade
working Working eight days a week, dude.
01:33:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
These guys are 24 hours a day.
01:33:01
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:33:01
BeyBlade
Working eight days a week.
01:33:02
Steve-O
de
01:33:03
BeyBlade
Dude, they're probably thrilled.
01:33:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
are twenty four hours a day
01:33:06
BeyBlade
They're thrilled nobody knows because they don't have That means they, yeah, the pressure's not fucking on them.
01:33:09
Steve-O
They're like, oh, thank God.
01:33:12
Steve-O
The second you put you give Keeley something, then the pressure's on.
01:33:13
BeyBlade
okay Yeah. I mean, dude, to hear that this game's not coming out mid-2027, that fucking stings, man. Yeah, man, it's going be
01:33:21
Steve-O
Hey, well, at least we get a mid-looking Mega Man game the same year.
01:33:26
BeyBlade
yeah man cool Can't wait.
01:33:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And we got the rock, we got the rock star delay too, which probably like, like I,
01:33:29
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:33:33
BeyBlade
Oh, the, the upcoming 2020 into 2027.
01:33:35
Steve-O
Dude, 2027 is going to be a banger year for GameStop.
01:33:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah like ah
01:33:35
BeyBlade
Oh my God. Um, sort of. Yeah.
01:33:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, what if we find out that Naughty Dog saw that Rockstar is releasing their game late, 2026, so they had to push it because of that, you know?
01:33:47
BeyBlade
god
01:33:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I mean, that seems that seems plausible, in my opinion.
01:33:49
BeyBlade
um
01:33:52
BeyBlade
sort of yeah I mean, to me, I think they just go like, I think they go, oh, good.
01:33:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
you know They don't want the smoke.
01:33:58
BeyBlade
Like, we don't have to worry about it until 2027. And then somebody from Sony is like, hey, when we've seen that demo?
01:34:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's what I'm... Yeah, yeah. Actually...
01:34:03
BeyBlade
And they're like, oh, fuck.
01:34:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, actually...
01:34:07
BeyBlade
Can't wait for this to fall through.
01:34:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
where Where are we going to see a demo of this saw this game that all the chuds are complaining about not having an attractive female protagonist? Where is this at?
01:34:16
BeyBlade
know,
01:34:18
AI_PLACEHOLDER
We need to make sure we're putting our money in the right direction and not investing it into Stellar Blade 2.
01:34:18
BeyBlade
ah you know
01:34:24
BeyBlade
i' gonna so this This isn't new news, but ah you know the Tomb Raider trailers that dropped?
01:34:28
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:34:28
billfrankenstein
Oh yeah, course.
01:34:29
BeyBlade
Somebody said, why does it look like they've Yassified Lara Croft?
01:34:35
billfrankenstein
Yasified.
01:34:35
BeyBlade
like they They put her through like the Yassified ah filter. And even though it's not necessarily true, it's true enough, and that's all I can see now.
01:34:47
BeyBlade
I'm like, oh my god, her she is like
01:34:48
Steve-O
There was a picture of just like someone sitting at a Starbucks and they were like, I don't know why, but it looks like the new Lara Croft. And it kind of did.
01:34:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh my god.
01:34:57
BeyBlade
Okay.
01:34:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, do you think that...
01:34:58
billfrankenstein
creeping on a girl at Starbucks and posting
01:35:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
No. Yeah, do you think do you think possibly, maybe, possibly, maybe, possibly?
01:35:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
don't want to... Maybe ChatGPT generated face model that looked conventionally attractive, and they used that
01:35:21
BeyBlade
Yeah, but then then you had the grifters go on and say she looks old.
01:35:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't know, man.
01:35:26
BeyBlade
So like, who knows?
01:35:26
Steve-O
Yeah, there's no winning. There's no winning.
01:35:27
billfrankenstein
Yeah, there's no one
01:35:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, you can't. well I mean, i mean they're they're literally, that's what they they do, right? They're not happy no matter what you do.
01:35:38
billfrankenstein
I'll never be happy. Your boobs weren't big enough. That's it, guys. I said it. It's Lara Croft.
01:35:47
BeyBlade
They're never big enough. How dare you? can see them. Poor Tungas, dude.
01:35:53
billfrankenstein
The poor Tungas.
01:35:53
BeyBlade
ah
01:35:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
See those submarines.
01:35:54
billfrankenstein
What the fuck is that?
01:35:57
BeyBlade
I don't know. You guys never just ah say weird things? No?
01:36:01
Steve-O
No, I've never said anything weird.
01:36:01
BeyBlade
Just me?
01:36:03
Steve-O
Never, not once.
01:36:04
billfrankenstein
Nope. Always logical and reasonable.
01:36:07
BeyBlade
Speaking weird, you guys, this is of zero substance. It's just a movie. I didn't know that a certain combination of people were involved in. But ah the trailer teaser for Digger has released.
01:36:22
BeyBlade
The most powerful man in the world embarks on a frantic mission.
01:36:24
billfrankenstein
This is a new Inerto movie. Is that how he pronounce his name?
01:36:28
BeyBlade
yeah uh alejandro g yeah but uh this stars tom cruise jessie plemons riz ahmed uh the most powerful man in the world embarked on a frantic mission we got fat todd to proves that he's humanity savior before the disaster he's unleashed destroys everything um listen i'm i'm all for tom cruise uh being in uh
01:36:28
Steve-O
That's a Birdman, right?
01:36:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
In there, in R2?
01:36:30
Steve-O
Revenant?
01:36:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
In R2?
01:36:31
billfrankenstein
Inerutu?
01:36:33
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That sounds like a
01:36:33
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Birdman.
01:36:36
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:36:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
got Fat Todd? They got Fat Todd in this?
01:36:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Bro.
01:36:50
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Sounds like bogo reverse Begonia.
01:36:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Tell me I'm wrong. didn't even watch Begonia.
01:36:56
BeyBlade
A movie movie, you know what i mean
01:36:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I didn't watch Begonia. didn't.
01:37:00
billfrankenstein
Begonia was great. And it was.
01:37:02
BeyBlade
I mean?
01:37:02
billfrankenstein
i don't know I don't know what Digger is going to be, though. This is just sort of a teaser with an old...
01:37:05
BeyBlade
No. She's just kind of dancing in it.
01:37:08
Steve-O
I dig the Saul Bass style, like, little, like, titles.
01:37:13
billfrankenstein
Yeah, the right the retro titles. Yeah, it's not bad
01:37:15
Steve-O
Yeah, I dig that.
01:37:16
BeyBlade
Yeah. You know, I'll be honest. My first thought was I thought this was like a mystery man spinoff.
01:37:23
Steve-O
Oh, of the Shoveler.
01:37:24
BeyBlade
I was like, what? The shoveler. And then I was like, oh.
01:37:28
billfrankenstein
He even had a tiny shovel.
01:37:29
BeyBlade
But, yeah.
01:37:31
Steve-O
He didn't.
01:37:31
BeyBlade
Listen, I'm all for Tom Cruise proving, reminding people that he's an actual good actor, too.
01:37:31
Steve-O
He didn't.
01:37:38
BeyBlade
It could be fun.
01:37:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:37:40
Steve-O
Let's see it before we can say it.
01:37:43
BeyBlade
Yeah. Well said, Steve.
01:37:46
Steve-O
Come on, Tom.
01:37:46
BeyBlade
i
01:37:47
Steve-O
Come on the podcast.
01:37:49
BeyBlade
You know, the haters will say it's AI. But, uh.
01:37:54
Steve-O
ah You know what? I would not be surprised if Tom Cruise has enough like artistic merit. Because he's been Mr. like I'm doing my own stunts.
01:38:05
Steve-O
but And also hearing how he was when he was like directing. that like I guarantee you he he probably wouldn't touch this stuff.
01:38:09
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:38:13
billfrankenstein
Dude, he fought in AI in his most recent movie. he It was the villain. He would never put that in there. He had to go in a goon coffin to fight it.
01:38:23
billfrankenstein
Which is what the whole movie was about.
01:38:24
BeyBlade
I mean,
01:38:28
billfrankenstein
You can't just watch AI porn all day in your goon coffin.
01:38:28
BeyBlade
it's a problem, dude. It's a problem.
01:38:33
billfrankenstein
you gotta fight the You gotta fight the power.
01:38:34
Steve-O
Get up.
01:38:35
BeyBlade
Dude, that's why entity's always listening.
01:38:35
Steve-O
Get up, Tom Cruise.
01:38:38
BeyBlade
It's what the entity wants.
01:38:40
billfrankenstein
yeah
01:38:40
BeyBlade
It's me and my goon coffin.
01:38:41
billfrankenstein
He wants you in that coffin jerking it nonstop.
01:38:45
BeyBlade
I think it jerks you, right?
01:38:46
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
01:38:47
Steve-O
That's how they ended the Mission Impossible series.
01:38:50
billfrankenstein
Of course.
01:38:50
BeyBlade
Oh, Steve, you got to watch it.
01:38:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Basically, yeah.
01:38:52
Steve-O
ah Yeah.
01:38:52
BeyBlade
You're so behind.
01:38:53
Steve-O
I got to see Avatar that I got to see.
01:38:54
BeyBlade
you're You're wasting your time on now you see me, now you don't.
01:38:55
billfrankenstein
mean, we spoiled all the good stuff.
01:38:59
BeyBlade
and You could be watching the the goon coffin chronicles, dude.
01:39:00
billfrankenstein
We spoiled all the good stuff.
01:39:01
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:39:01
billfrankenstein
We spoiled all the good. I'm sorry. and
01:39:03
Steve-O
Is there any like John Cena commercials in there too?
01:39:03
BeyBlade
how far How far behind are you?
01:39:06
billfrankenstein
Well, you got to get through those.
01:39:07
Steve-O
ah
01:39:08
billfrankenstein
Get. the AI generated porn that you watch in the coffin.
01:39:09
BeyBlade
hearing
01:39:12
Steve-O
I'm learning so much.
01:39:14
BeyBlade
us Speaking of there's a bit of a one-two punch. don't know if you guys heard about this. um Game of the Year winner, Darlene, Claire Obscure, swept another award show, the Indie Game Awards.
01:39:33
BeyBlade
And then they found out that they had one or two instances of AI generated content. It's been patched out. It's been patched up, but they said, no, no, no, that's not good enough. We hereby disqualify and rescind your awards.
01:39:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Well, they lied. That's that's the issue.
01:39:54
Steve-O
They did lie. They actively...
01:39:56
billfrankenstein
Wait, they lost the Game Awards?
01:39:58
Steve-O
no so ah the Indie Game Awards.
01:39:58
BeyBlade
No, no, the indie game award.
01:39:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
no, the Indie Game the game indie game Award, they they stripped them of their Game of the Year title.
01:40:01
billfrankenstein
ah Oh.
01:40:02
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:40:02
billfrankenstein
Oh.
01:40:02
Steve-O
it
01:40:05
billfrankenstein
My lord.
01:40:05
BeyBlade
So because because they said there was a eye, it's been patched out.
01:40:11
Steve-O
But the thing is, they when they submitted it to the Indie Game Awards, when they came to the part where it was like, did you use any Gen.AI in the production of your game?
01:40:11
BeyBlade
But they said not good enough.
01:40:21
Steve-O
They said no. And they did the awards show the same day as like the big drop of them admitting to using ai
01:40:23
billfrankenstein
Oh, boy.
01:40:23
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:40:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
01:40:30
Steve-O
So they were like, well, they admitted it in July, but it was in like French news magazines.
01:40:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right.
01:40:30
BeyBlade
Well, the thing is, is they admitted it years ago, but. it wasn't like,
01:40:39
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:40:39
BeyBlade
yeah, I say years ago. Yeah, you're right. Like, like it was, it was resurfaced fairly recently.
01:40:41
Steve-O
yeah
01:40:44
Steve-O
Right. Right. It was... every Everybody after it won was like, oh, we're digging up all the dirt to bury this son of
01:40:50
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Uh-oh.
01:40:51
BeyBlade
but Do you know, apparently it's apparently some of it was, there was a like a newspaper clipping that was AI. Like, like,
01:41:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, there's like a clear... It's clear. Pretty clear.
01:41:04
BeyBlade
but But I'm saying like it's it's nothing substantial, I'd argue.
01:41:05
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:41:10
BeyBlade
But they said –
01:41:10
Steve-O
Well, it's nothing substantial you'd assume based on what you've seen.
01:41:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i mean, they used they were...
01:41:15
Steve-O
And they have said that they have patched everything out, but also now that they're being like kind of disingenuous about their usage of it, and also you mentioned before that like they did not do any admission to the Steam page where...
01:41:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, which which I find.
01:41:28
Steve-O
like
01:41:29
BeyBlade
it And whether or not that's because by the time it hits Steam, it had been patched out, I don't know. Right? but ah But I guess there's there's like a Steam disclosure, I think, right?
01:41:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, what is Steam? Do you know what Steam, like, asks? Do they ask if it's if if they if it's in the game?
01:41:43
Steve-O
Yeah, I think it's like open-siting by Steam. like I don't know if it's like something that like you have to do, but it's something where it's like you know just one of those things where it's like, hey, did you use AI?
01:41:50
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:41:54
Steve-O
like you know We would like to have this be like something we could like keep track of, but you know that never popped up on the Steam page for Claire Obscure.
01:42:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:42:05
Steve-O
um And I think you know the Indie Game Awards has...
01:42:05
BeyBlade
Yeah. For, for whatever reason.
01:42:10
Steve-O
you know they kind of put their foot down and like rightfully so like if they're going to be like adamantly against you know the use of gen ai in the games that they are featuring in the indie game awards and you know you kind of like try to subvert it i think you know being like hey like we're gonna it was actually this game and another game too it was um i forget the name of the other game uh but they both got
01:42:37
BeyBlade
Oh, another game was was ah smashed by the Indie Game Awards.
01:42:39
Steve-O
Yes, it was. um Let me look this up real quick. It was do do. do ah
01:42:49
BeyBlade
While you're looking that up, ah debut so the two awards, ah had it had won. Debut game is now given to Sorry We're Closed and Blueprints won Game of the Year.
01:43:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Good.
01:43:01
BeyBlade
So...
01:43:03
Steve-O
Blueprints is an excellent.
01:43:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But also, but also, like, does it feel bad if you're them?
01:43:06
BeyBlade
Oh, dude, there's a lot of AI in that, man. fucking How many times can the rooms change?
01:43:11
billfrankenstein
No, no, no, no, That's... Oh, got him.
01:43:13
BeyBlade
That's AI, my guy.
01:43:15
billfrankenstein
Got him.
01:43:16
BeyBlade
got him, dude.
01:43:17
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, my God, dude, it the fucking the psycho glazed.
01:43:18
billfrankenstein
Solve.
01:43:19
BeyBlade
Generative, dude.
01:43:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, I looked, I just Google, I start typing blueprints. And AI usage is like the second fucking search search term.
01:43:30
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:43:31
billfrankenstein
You know what, man?
01:43:32
BeyBlade
I mean, it's
01:43:32
billfrankenstein
You know how it...
01:43:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Because the Psychoglazer trying to find shit on blueprints now.
01:43:36
billfrankenstein
you You know how I would circumvent all of this as a company? It's the easiest solution to this problem. Anytime anybody says that we're using AI generated content, we hired Allen Iverson to work at our, at our place.
01:43:50
Steve-O
oh
01:43:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah
01:43:52
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:43:52
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
01:43:53
billfrankenstein
So we just say it's his.
01:43:54
BeyBlade
You know what, Chris? I wish I could say that would work, but people would just see the headlines and send you death threats.
01:44:00
billfrankenstein
are you talking about? We have Allen Iverson. Everybody loves that guy.
01:44:03
BeyBlade
We're in, I'll be honest, we're in witch hunt territory when it to this AI stuff.
01:44:06
Steve-O
We would say ah
01:44:08
BeyBlade
I truly think, I truly believe that.
01:44:11
Steve-O
I think, you know, um'm um I'm not for it.
01:44:13
BeyBlade
It's, it's ah I'm posting the the found examples of um of AI in the
01:44:17
Steve-O
it's It's one of those things where in Clare Obscure, I've seen a lot of it. and you know Like you're saying, like you know it is graphics here. But the thing is, it's like you don't know where that usage came. like You don't know how deep it goes. like There's going to be a point where it's just like...
01:44:33
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Did Sandfall respond did sandfa respond to that any of this stuff or no?
01:44:36
BeyBlade
they just I think they said, it just hey, it's been patched out, but we like respect their decision or something like that.
01:44:36
Steve-O
really.
01:44:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What if they posted like, oh, that's cool. We still got the bigger award.
01:44:46
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:44:47
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah The Game Awards.
01:44:48
billfrankenstein
That's so fucking petty.
01:44:52
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah. We don't need this one. Thanks, though.
01:44:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
No, but like now it's like, It's weird because like the discourse is becoming like like, the arguments are becoming like, well, if they just use it as a placeholder, it doesn't count. you know And like does it or does it not?
01:45:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
like like Yeah, I'm sure like the whole Unreal Engine assets thing is is ah could could have a play in this too. like The fact that they, like there's the claim that they used assets that they weren't that they didn't know were generated by Gen.AI, which is kind of a weird thing
01:45:29
Steve-O
This is a really big discussion and it, it, it is kind of scary to the sense of like, where, right.
01:45:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
where do you draw where would you draw the line you know because like in in with respect to like what we were talking about i guess what we can talk about next as well or in the same conversation the whole larian thing like that's also one line like do you draw it there you know like
01:45:41
Steve-O
Like,
01:45:52
Steve-O
yeah.
01:45:58
BeyBlade
Well, I mean, i mean so so like for this, for the photo stuff, right? Like, is this worse than Naughty Dog getting caught using Ubisoft stock footage in their like...
01:46:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Well, yeah that that yeah, that's what I wanted to...
01:46:12
BeyBlade
Because it's basically...
01:46:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Because that was what, Uncharted 4? Yeah,
01:46:15
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:46:16
BeyBlade
yeah and it's basically they're like, oh we just used AI so we didn't fall into that trap. And now they're getting smashed or that. And it's like, so what what what is expected of them, right?
01:46:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah I mean, I guess... the like I think that they're both wrong.
01:46:29
Steve-O
Just do your job.
01:46:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
They're both wrong. And if you're going to use a placeholder that could be mistaken later for being an actual asset that you want to use in in the launch version your game, then make an actual placeholder.
01:46:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Make them fucking bright orange so that you know.
01:46:46
Steve-O
do I mean, notoriously they do like the big bright pink placeholders. So, you know, where you haven't put your texture.
01:46:52
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, you know it's... Yeah. Right. So it's like, why don't you do that? like Why does it have to be... like Is it an aesthetic thing? like because Because that's the thing. like If they're putting their them in there as placeholders to make continuity with their design language of the game, then yeah, that's kind of fucking shitty to do. just make Just don't put a placeholder in. Make the actual asset there or put it in when you make it. you know Don't use a placeholder at that point.
01:47:20
Steve-O
It's one of those things where it's it's speed over substance where it like I'm looking at the um the examples that Devin posted and it's like these are things that are like kind of egregiously like AI when you look at it.
01:47:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right.
01:47:33
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, it's like it's it's obnoxious.
01:47:35
BeyBlade
I mean, that's how they were caught. They were like, oh.
01:47:36
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:47:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And this was in the launch version of the game that they patched out, right?
01:47:38
BeyBlade
But also, also, yeah,
01:47:40
Steve-O
Right. And like, you could like, this is like something cool that like you could come up to this pillar and like get a little bit of like world lore.
01:47:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
that's
01:47:48
Steve-O
Like, you know, FromSoft would like make this something. Other companies would make this something. um
01:47:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right, exactly, Yeah.
01:47:55
Steve-O
But, you know, it does, it does sound like based on what um Larry and, and um who are the kingdom come ah developers?
01:48:06
BeyBlade
uh develop
01:48:07
Steve-O
Because they they kind of came to support Larian with like the AI usage where they're just like, it's everywhere now.
01:48:13
BeyBlade
warhorse studios
01:48:14
Steve-O
where Everybody's using it. Get used to it. Yeah.
01:48:17
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, I mean, there's like there's clearly a difference between using AI to like find references to stuff that you would just spend more time Googling and you know sifting through later for information.
01:48:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
like there's There's that. And then even what Larry was saying, to create PowerPoint presentations for internal meetings or whatever, like that's whatever too.
01:48:39
Steve-O
I mean, that's, that's like meeting stuff. That's work stuff. Like that's not just, that's not stuff that's touching the game. That is just discussion.
01:48:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. if If it's going to touch your game at all, then, you know.
01:48:48
Steve-O
um
01:48:48
BeyBlade
Thank you.
01:48:51
Steve-O
But like, that's the thing it's, they are, they're removing some of the most fun parts of creating art where it's like, you get to come up with the ideas, come up with the images in your mind, you know? um Like, right.
01:49:03
billfrankenstein
Well, it commodifies it. it it it it ruins everything that makes art art.
01:49:05
Steve-O
It's, it's,
01:49:08
billfrankenstein
It makes it a product.
01:49:09
Steve-O
They are they are artists who like put out like art books where like, you know, people get their ideas for art like they're, you know, they're taking money from them.
01:49:19
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, like, crick Chris, what if what if Joe Cross opened a newspaper in Eddington and it was just a fucking AI schlop that on the page and he was, like, reading it? Like, wouldn't that fucking take you out of the movie completely and just, like, and, like...
01:49:32
billfrankenstein
Of course it would. it Considering that the AI a logarithm is the real enemy of that movie, it would wouldn't make any fucking sense.
01:49:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah,
01:49:41
billfrankenstein
It would be hypocritical.
01:49:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
it wouldn't make any sense. Yeah.
01:49:43
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:49:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Or if, like, you know, i mean, again, like, this might be just, like, you know, like a fucking stamp on the, on the, yeah, maybe it is good to be a fucking psycho and use real film for your movies like Christopher Nolan.
01:49:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Cause like, that's something that you can't really do in, in the movie later, you know, like,
01:50:04
Steve-O
It's ah Christopher Nolan has always had that like one thing where it's like, yeah, I don't, I don't use, um yeah, it's all in camera.
01:50:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah, everything has to be practical. Everything has to be real.
01:50:13
Steve-O
Right.
01:50:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
01:50:14
billfrankenstein
Yeah. All, all, all practical effects that anything he says, anything that you, anything in the script that can be practical will be.
01:50:16
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Fucking Brian Singer.
01:50:22
AI_PLACEHOLDER
we'll be proud Yeah, but I remember reading Bryan Singer on Superman Returns like said that all of the Daily Planet employees had actual business cards with actual titles and names like real names.
01:50:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
like in Even though they weren't in the like in any of the shots at all.
01:50:39
billfrankenstein
It's immersion. It helps the actors.
01:50:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's immersion. Yeah, it helps everything.
01:50:41
billfrankenstein
It, It really creates the production that as an actor, it's easy to act in.
01:50:48
Steve-O
hey
01:50:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So like, if if like, because that's the thing is like, ever since like, well, I guess Metal Gear Solid 2, like, it's always been like, oh, like video like, video games as an art form is like, is pretty close to being like cinema and, and film, like film-like, right?
01:51:05
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like this shit like this kind of pushes it back a little bit, I think, which kind of sucks, you know, because, you
01:51:10
Steve-O
it's It's a weird tug and war between the artists and the businessmen where it's like, where where where is a video game on that? Is it art?
01:51:19
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And if you if you have the loud consumers that are like, you know, you know, planting their flags in the ground now, like moving goalposts forward and back just to just to write raise up their favorite product, like then that puts the the developer in and an awkward position where do they is it going to be OK to do this?
01:51:29
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:51:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Is it not?
01:51:41
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:51:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
We could save a lot of money.
01:51:41
billfrankenstein
I mean, unfortunately, this is a story as old as time, though. I get it.
01:51:45
Steve-O
Right.
01:51:46
billfrankenstein
our Art and money have always been on either end of the spectrum. And the key is that they have to coexist. And when one side gains more than the other, things start to change, whether that be good or bad.
01:51:59
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:52:02
billfrankenstein
So it's like, yeah, it's it's a thing that's a struggle. I feel like it's more on the money side now, you know, unfortunately.
01:52:09
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
01:52:10
Steve-O
yeah
01:52:11
billfrankenstein
um
01:52:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I think i think with with this award being stripped in particular, i think it it's like 80% because they fucking didn't disclose it when they should have.
01:52:22
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:52:23
BeyBlade
Well, apparently they wouldn't, yeah, they wouldn't even been in the discussion if they had disclosed it.
01:52:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like that...
01:52:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
If they said, Yeah.
01:52:29
BeyBlade
Yeah. Which is why they were like, we were, that was the rule.
01:52:30
billfrankenstein
that's That's not cool. Yeah.
01:52:33
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
01:52:33
Steve-O
I think like, that's the thing, like, you know, um, game of the year doesn't have that stance, I imagine.
01:52:36
BeyBlade
And I guess like I can,
01:52:39
Steve-O
So like, you know,
01:52:40
BeyBlade
no but I can also, I guess, see if they were like, well, when you're asking us now, like there was no AI in the game at that point. So that's probably why they were like,
01:52:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Nah, I don't know.
01:52:52
BeyBlade
Don't worry about it. I don't know. like I don't know what that don't know how ah stringent they are.
01:52:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Well, my my friend my friend put the bag of Doritos in my bag before I left the store, so...
01:53:02
Steve-O
Is that what people are going to be doing? They're going to be having their their buddies yeah do doing their their stuff for them? um Yeah, this is kind of...
AI's Role and Controversy in Game Development
01:53:13
Steve-O
This is a bummer a little bit because like you know this all kind of came out and I was i was very excited about talking about you know the Game of the Years on the Anti-Fannies when we do it.
01:53:23
Steve-O
um But like a little bit a little bit of my sale has kind of... like come down on my game of the year. Like Claire Obscure is still like probably my favorite experience I had in gaming this year.
01:53:35
Steve-O
ah But just like in general, it's it's one of those things where it's like you found...
01:53:41
BeyBlade
Why exactly, though?
01:53:41
Steve-O
you
01:53:42
BeyBlade
Like, I mean, honestly, like, see.
01:53:42
Steve-O
why it
01:53:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You fucked around, you found out. You fuck around, you find out.
01:53:44
BeyBlade
don't know.
01:53:46
billfrankenstein
you
01:53:46
Steve-O
Why did my sale deride? Because it's it's just like... you know, i I love, I like celebrate human ingenuity and like creativity and stuff like that. And just be like, eh, you know, we kind of, that we kind of took some shortcuts here and there and it's like, ah, and that's kind of a bummer.
01:54:03
Steve-O
Like it's I, I'm allowed to be dissatisfied.
01:54:04
BeyBlade
i I don't know, man.
01:54:07
Steve-O
Dude, you can't, you can't have like, you can't criticize my problems while, or my thoughts on it.
01:54:07
BeyBlade
No, no, you are. I just, I just, I struggle. no, but I struggle to to just get that worked up about it, I guess.
01:54:17
Steve-O
I'm not worked up. I'm saying it's still my game of the year.
01:54:19
BeyBlade
You said, no, but I'm saying, you're saying like, I guess I struggle to see, to get to get that like invested in the fact that there's AI involved, I guess.
01:54:20
Steve-O
But i'm i'm I'm allowed to be bummed out.
01:54:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
the same if the same If the same thing came out about Team Cherry, I would probably fucking slit my wrists, to be honest.
01:54:38
Steve-O
You'd be bummed, right?
01:54:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Stop!
01:54:39
Steve-O
It'd be a bummer.
01:54:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i would fucking i would I would drive my car to the Grand Canyon if they came out and said, oh yeah, we fucking ChachiPT came up with the entire design of Hornet and and all of our ideas.
01:54:39
Steve-O
Like,
01:54:40
BeyBlade
I don't get it.
01:54:43
Steve-O
i hope not. i Like,
01:54:51
Steve-O
Like even even if it's just like placeholders and stuff, you know, it' it's the it's the set of like the fact that like it has touched that.
01:54:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
we're only We're only three people. What do you expect us to do?
01:55:02
Steve-O
So I don't know where else it has touched in the creative process. That is one of those things that kind of like, you know, like if you're if you're eating like some popcorn and you like you find a pube in there.
01:55:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
and you find a And you find a hair in the popcorn.
01:55:15
billfrankenstein
your your
01:55:16
Steve-O
Yeah. And you're like, oh, yeah.
01:55:17
billfrankenstein
you're you're You're saying it's not necessarily a bad game, but it's tarnished.
01:55:21
Steve-O
A little bit.
01:55:22
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's a little bit tarnished.
01:55:22
Steve-O
A little bit.
01:55:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
a little bit.
01:55:24
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:55:25
Steve-O
So, know, that's my thoughts on it.
01:55:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I think it's... I mean... yeah I... I'm not...
01:55:29
BeyBlade
I think it really just depends on what is AI, you know, like, yeah, if you, if you find out like entire levels were AI, like designed via AI, that, that I did.
01:55:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But that's what Steve's saying. It's like, how do we how do we know that they didn't do that for some things?
01:55:41
billfrankenstein
It touched this level and that was the most noticeable.
01:55:41
BeyBlade
You just, you just gotta,
01:55:47
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i mean, Act 3 could have been an AI fucking flowchart, if you ask me.
01:55:50
Steve-O
and And the thing, the thing, the thing too is it's, it's a game about like artists stuff.
01:55:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
For that game.
01:55:56
Steve-O
and It's like, come on
01:55:56
billfrankenstein
yeah It's hypocritical, right?
01:55:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah. Yeah.
01:55:59
billfrankenstein
Like that's, that's the hypocritical part of it all.
01:56:02
Steve-O
Maybe that's the sequel they're planning and I'm just playing into it.
01:56:04
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm hoping... hoping they're like...
01:56:06
Steve-O
Who knows?
01:56:07
BeyBlade
I mean, technically, that painting's AI, dude.
01:56:07
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm hoping they're...
01:56:09
BeyBlade
Like, they're all just...
01:56:09
billfrankenstein
See, this is why I really like the show Pluribus, because I feel like it's having these arguments in real time in the show, and it makes...
01:56:16
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:56:18
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, that game won Best Art Direction.
01:56:18
billfrankenstein
It's just interesting.
01:56:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Just wanted to let you guys know that. So, you know.
01:56:24
billfrankenstein
Half of that was done by a robot.
01:56:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
over Over hand-drawn paintings.
01:56:28
BeyBlade
I don't know, man.
01:56:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Actual hand-drawn.
01:56:29
BeyBlade
going find out. You're going find out, John.
01:56:32
billfrankenstein
About to find out.
01:56:32
Steve-O
Three people.
01:56:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't think so, dude.
01:56:32
Steve-O
Wait, three people is small amount of people.
01:56:34
BeyBlade
You might.
01:56:35
Steve-O
Now thinking about it.
01:56:36
BeyBlade
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
01:56:37
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I feel like Team Cherry would be a triple suicide before before something like that reached the news.
01:56:38
BeyBlade
No one needs to talk, man.
01:56:41
Steve-O
No, I i i agree. it literally
01:56:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Even if they did do it, I feel like it would never get out.
01:56:47
Steve-O
it took them almost a decade to make this.
01:56:47
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Which is good enough for me.
01:56:49
Steve-O
So like it does seem like the the proper span of time.
01:56:49
billfrankenstein
yeah right like
01:56:51
BeyBlade
Yeah, they had to wait for the AI tools to come out so they could.
01:56:53
Steve-O
Oh, yeah.
01:56:54
AI_PLACEHOLDER
They had to order all of the RAM from fucking Micron to build a fucking data center to to to generate the entire game.
01:56:54
Steve-O
They were just hanging out.
01:56:57
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:57:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:57:03
Steve-O
Is that why the PlayStation 6 is going to cost $3,000?
01:57:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yes.
01:57:08
Steve-O
Damn it. ah Team Cherry, you've done it again.
01:57:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, it's
01:57:12
BeyBlade
So what's worse this or Larian using AI for flow charts?
01:57:16
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I think this is a little bit worse.
01:57:18
Steve-O
I think the Larian hiring practices is the grossest thing.
01:57:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's that's the bad part of it all.
01:57:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, that that's pretty rough.
01:57:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:57:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's pretty rough.
01:57:25
Steve-O
Like six months being strung along.
01:57:27
billfrankenstein
The AI... The hiring.
01:57:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I love how Saven is like, maybe he's leaning into the to the fucking backlash on the AI. Just, you know, saying you with the whole holy fuck tweet.
01:57:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
to divert away from the fact that they fucking suck at hiring people.
01:57:44
billfrankenstein
hiring
01:57:44
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's a wild way to start your your PR statement with a holy fuck, guys.
01:57:45
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:57:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, I know.
01:57:50
BeyBlade
You know, it's going well.
01:57:51
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Well, that him putting out that tweet makes me respect it a little bit more because he's like a real person. Like, it seems like he's a real person.
01:57:57
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:57:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, uh,
01:57:59
BeyBlade
Well, basically, what he's he basically said, ah hey, in the next few months, we're going to be doing like AMAs with like our developers. So you can essentially feel free to grill them on AI and they'll they'll tell it to you.
01:58:14
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, you know what? What's worse?
01:58:15
BeyBlade
Then you can biction moan.
01:58:16
AI_PLACEHOLDER
What's worse? This whole thing? Or Bungie stealing an entire fucking art showcase from one person and then putting making it their entire game?
01:58:26
Steve-O
that that guy That guy has done that four times at this point.
01:58:26
BeyBlade
Like that's way worse.
01:58:31
billfrankenstein
Wow.
01:58:31
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:58:31
Steve-O
and
01:58:31
BeyBlade
I also, looked crazy to me. He, he voluntarily stepped down, not fired.
01:58:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah, yeah. He quit. He quit.
01:58:40
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:58:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He fucking quit.
01:58:40
BeyBlade
He's yeah.
01:58:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Which is like,
01:58:42
BeyBlade
Quit doing what? Stealing from people.
01:58:44
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Well, this is my this is my theory, Devin. Knowing Bungie, being a Bungie guy for years and years and years, I think he knows that the game's going to be fucking ass cheeks.
01:58:50
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm.
01:58:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Like, you just it's just not going to be the same because of all this stuff, and he's just stepping out now.
01:59:00
Steve-O
That's so wild, though. Like whenever that happens, you know, you know, a stinker is about to arrive.
01:59:06
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah, you know you know something's about to come out. Yeah, like, and I don't know if it's like, it's going to be blatant that whatever changes they made, like it's going to be like apparent that they really want to remove themselves from what the previous art, art direct art style was before.
01:59:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah like, it's just not, does not look good at all.
01:59:27
Steve-O
No.
01:59:28
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So, and that's the thing, like Bungie's been on a fucking downer for a while.
01:59:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:59:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Cause I remember their, their CEO, what the fuck is his name? The guy that was bragging about his fucking cars or whatever that he's buying.
01:59:40
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
01:59:41
Steve-O
Jay Leno.
01:59:41
BeyBlade
okay
01:59:42
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:59:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He was like, he was posting stuff. He was at like Black Lives Matter protests and stuff in 2020. And like, he was like posting pictures from them and he was there.
01:59:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And it made me feel good as as a fucking supporter of Bungie. And, you know, i've i don't I haven't directly donated money, but I've bought things from their store that directly went to charity um with, you know, with feeling good about myself.
02:00:07
BeyBlade
yeah
02:00:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And then, like, all that shit came out about him. I'm like, oh my god, that's fucking horrible. And now this. And they're saying that Destiny 4 is, like, in development. And it's like, oh, wow. You guys really fucking fumbled the ball here.
02:00:23
BeyBlade
Destiny 4?
02:00:24
Steve-O
Yeah, not even three.
02:00:25
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah they Yeah, they threw... Or no, Destiny 3, sorry. Destiny 3.
02:00:27
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:00:28
Steve-O
Jesus.
02:00:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
When they clearly could have announced that Destiny 3 is being worked on when all the marathon stuff was being pushed out. So, it' like,
02:00:38
Steve-O
Right.
02:00:39
BeyBlade
me
02:00:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Clearly, they're in, like, fucking fire extinguisher mode, and they're, like, trying to fucking save face um by using, you know, the stuff that has made the money forever.
02:00:52
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Also, inie indie studio Bungie, self-published.
02:00:56
Steve-O
Yeah, self-published.
02:00:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
So, you know, yeah, does that count as an indie game?
02:00:58
Steve-O
That's more than you can say about Sandfall. I mean, that's one of the things that I've been talking about where it's like, I think we need to redefine what an indie game is.
02:01:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm just...
02:01:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah. I don't like the idea, like, this thing, I don't like the idea that it has to look a certain way or be graphically inferior to other games, like, aesthetically, to be to be considered an indie over a game that does.
02:01:20
Steve-O
agree.
02:01:24
AI_PLACEHOLDER
But, like...
02:01:25
Steve-O
I think it's a, ah I think it needs to be something that is one cell published and I think it has to be a certain team size.
02:01:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I mean, indie films of the 90s and stuff, like, like, they... Created that whole aesthetic because they were low budget and because they were they were self-made.
02:01:39
Steve-O
Right.
02:01:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And now like big production studios will will have people make their movies look that way because, you know. But they're not considered indies at that point.
02:01:52
Steve-O
Right.
02:01:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Still. i don't know, man.
Defining Indie Games and Award Criteria
02:01:58
Steve-O
It's an interesting time.
02:01:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
This is a lot of shit.
02:01:59
Steve-O
it's ah It's a lot all at once to like have to like kind of start assessing. 2026.
02:02:06
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Jeff Keel is just going back into his Mission Impossible fucking...
02:02:11
Steve-O
He's going into the coffin.
02:02:11
AI_PLACEHOLDER
du He's going into the Gooner AI coffin just so he can avoid being asked about this and if they're going to strip Claire Obscura from whatever awards from that from their award show.
02:02:13
Steve-O
our no. Yeah.
02:02:21
Steve-O
He's like, no, no. Have you seen my parents' camera?
02:02:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I don't think i don't think they're going to do anything, though.
02:02:25
Steve-O
No, I mean, that's the thing. I don't think they have any, like, anti-Gen AI things for the game awards. um
02:02:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Plus, that would be pretty big if they were like, oh, you we're taking best indie and best debut indie from you because of whatever, because you're getting bad for us now. Because that's basically what would be the reason.
02:02:42
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:02:42
Steve-O
I gotta say, does that mean the only game with merit this year, Megabon? The only one that stepped out?
02:02:49
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, and that, yeah.
02:02:50
Steve-O
They did the Ryu move and they didn't show up to the podium standing.
02:02:52
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, they said the answer lies in the heart of battle, and they said, fuck you.
02:02:57
Steve-O
but ah
02:03:00
billfrankenstein
Bye.
02:03:00
AI_PLACEHOLDER
but
02:03:01
Steve-O
Holding it its duffel bag over its shoulder as it walks into the sunset.
02:03:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
they said Yeah, hold this shit. Yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah. And you know what? Mega Bog is such a flex, though, too. because like they I'm glad they're their stepping down was like a good move for them.
02:03:16
Steve-O
Hmm.
02:03:16
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Or for him, I guess. But fuck, man.
02:03:19
Steve-O
we Hey, we weren't even playing the game until they did that move.
02:03:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
no
02:03:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
That's true. actually wasn't even planning on playing it at all. And then I was like, you know what? It's fucking $10. And Steve was like, you know I'll wait until it's $1. I'll
Progress in Death Stranding 2
02:03:34
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
02:03:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
wait until this $10 game was $1.
02:03:34
Steve-O
I didn't. I didn't.
02:03:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah,
02:03:36
Steve-O
And then 15 days later, Devin...
02:03:38
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah they fucking... They bonked you, dude. You got bonked.
02:03:41
Steve-O
They bonked me. I got bonked. I got bonked. But you know what? Hey. Those bonk bucks, they're well-earned. um Is there anything else we want to touch on? I think we got one more.
02:03:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I have one question for Devin.
02:03:55
BeyBlade
Yes.
02:03:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Did you finish Death Stranding 2 yet? Or are you close?
02:04:00
BeyBlade
i'm
02:04:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Because I'm really curious where that's going to land on your
02:04:02
BeyBlade
i mean Actually, let me find out. Let me find out. How many? So I'm on chapter nine.
02:04:08
Steve-O
there's going to be like 15 chapters, I bet.
02:04:08
BeyBlade
That's Stranding 2. Fuck,
02:04:13
Steve-O
How many? 17. seventeen oh
02:04:16
billfrankenstein
Oh, you're in for it, man.
02:04:18
Steve-O
you're You're barely halfway, man.
02:04:19
BeyBlade
Now, I will say, I will say, if I, like, the the clip of the game is truly, like, you do a main mission, maybe two, you're done a chapter.
02:04:32
BeyBlade
with like a little five minute cut scene, you know, involved I know, no, no.
02:04:34
Steve-O
Yeah, but I know you, Devin. I know you.
02:04:37
BeyBlade
The problem is I'm like, well, I got a five star.
02:04:40
Steve-O
yeah
02:04:40
BeyBlade
that I gotta, I gotta do all this.
02:04:44
Steve-O
You got to find all the little posts and stuff.
02:04:44
BeyBlade
So yeah it's pretty bad. um and no, trust me. I was like, I gotta, I gotta fucking hammer down right now. I am in an, an, an,
02:04:58
BeyBlade
I am in an an annoying area. Like, it's all... It's cold mountains. So everything takes forever to get to.
02:05:07
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I thought he's gonna he was going to start describing Blighttown, Chris. And I was going to be like, see?
02:05:11
BeyBlade
no it's not it's not quite that bad.
02:05:11
billfrankenstein
Oh, God.
02:05:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's in every fucking game now.
02:05:12
BeyBlade
Not quite that bad.
02:05:15
billfrankenstein
a
02:05:15
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Fuck!
02:05:16
BeyBlade
But I i definitely am I'm hoping for some AI cheat codes to come in so I can just fly over the snow.
02:05:23
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, there you
02:05:26
BeyBlade
ah No, no. So I'm thinking I'm going to... I say this every week, and i and I've yet to do it, but I'm going to start plowing through. i want to be close. I want to be truly close to beating the game by the end of the year.
02:05:47
BeyBlade
I think I could beat the game in 2025 if I just buckle in. So we'll see.
02:05:55
Steve-O
Alright, the race to beat.
02:05:58
BeyBlade
Yeah. Even though there's no, do we have a date? Like, are are we, are we like going to try to do it like first week of January?
02:06:05
Steve-O
I'd say sometime in January, yeah.
02:06:07
BeyBlade
Yeah. Like sometime, right? Not necessarily.
02:06:10
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Is there anything slated to come out like early January or no?
02:06:14
Steve-O
I think i think on January 4th, I might not be able to record, so we might have to go the next week.
02:06:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, dude, yo, breaking news. Chris, they said that Captain Atom will be in Creature Commando Season 2. That's pretty fucking exciting.
02:06:31
billfrankenstein
Ooh.
02:06:31
Steve-O
Oh.
02:06:32
billfrankenstein
I wonder who that's going to be.
02:06:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
pretty fucking That's pretty fucking exciting.
02:06:36
Steve-O
Also, it looks like James Gunn playing Bellatro, so expected to lay on everything.
02:06:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
what's
02:06:40
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, what a fucking sicko.
02:06:40
BeyBlade
Oh.
02:06:41
Steve-O
You're
02:06:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
God damn it. Am I going to start playing this shit again?
02:06:45
Steve-O
going to just touch it once and get addicted again.
02:06:45
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Fuck.
02:06:45
BeyBlade
Oh, uh, so, so the, uh, the one, the one bit bit of news that we were thinking that, and we couldn't remember uh, it's kind of just that, right?
02:06:57
BeyBlade
It's, uh, Lars Eidinger has been cast as Brainiac Eidinger.
02:07:02
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Eidinger. Eidinger, I think.
02:07:04
billfrankenstein
Hey, ninger.
02:07:06
BeyBlade
Hey, uh, listen, I'm all for, yeah, I'm all for unknowns, so fuck it.
02:07:07
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Say my name.
02:07:11
Steve-O
Dude, look at this guy's melon. I can't wait for this to be shaved.
02:07:13
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, he looks like Brainiac, dude.
02:07:15
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
02:07:15
Steve-O
It's... You know he saw that head and he's like, dude, that's such a shavable head.
02:07:17
billfrankenstein
Look at that.
02:07:21
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And fucking Nicholas Holt actually shaved his head, too, so he can't...
02:07:21
billfrankenstein
That's a big head to play with.
02:07:26
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He's got go he's gotta go full.
02:07:26
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:07:27
billfrankenstein
That guy, to be honest, he probably should come home anyway.
02:07:27
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah, dude.
02:07:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He's gotta go full built.
02:07:27
BeyBlade
and
02:07:30
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
02:07:30
billfrankenstein
you get what I'm saying.
02:07:31
Steve-O
um Yeah.
02:07:31
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Yeah.
02:07:33
Steve-O
it's He's doing the thing with ah what Stone Cold had to do.
02:07:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Chris, have you been seeing all the good press about r slash bald, the subreddit?
02:07:36
billfrankenstein
Yeah. No. No. You'll be a beautiful without it
02:07:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Because everybody's just been talking about how wholesome the entire community is because it's just a dude that's like struggling with coming to terms with his hair.
02:07:42
billfrankenstein
well.
02:07:50
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And everybody everybody is super supportive all the time on that subreddit.
02:07:50
billfrankenstein
yeah i come home
02:07:55
AI_PLACEHOLDER
There's no toxicity at all.
02:07:57
billfrankenstein
yeah brother stick with it for as long as you can but no no you'll be it beautiful without it as well
02:07:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's a good subreddit.
02:07:59
BeyBlade
Yeah. Oh.
02:08:03
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Right. gotta take it back.
02:08:05
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's...
02:08:05
billfrankenstein
That's our mantra.
02:08:06
Steve-O
That's angelic. Angelic.
02:08:08
billfrankenstein
That's our mantra.
02:08:10
BeyBlade
armmon Yeah. Okay.
02:08:11
billfrankenstein
Yeah, Devin, ours.
02:08:11
BeyBlade
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
02:08:12
billfrankenstein
Not yours.
02:08:16
BeyBlade
No shade. No quarrel.
02:08:17
Steve-O
Devin's over on R slash hair.
02:08:17
BeyBlade
No quarrel.
02:08:19
Steve-O
Just getting in fistfights.
02:08:19
billfrankenstein
yeah
02:08:19
BeyBlade
Yeah, our dude, literally, my endless subscriber on r slash fierce flow.
02:08:21
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:08:24
billfrankenstein
you know What a fucking front that would be.
02:08:25
Steve-O
ah
02:08:28
Steve-O
All right.
02:08:31
billfrankenstein
That would be funny. I love that.
02:08:34
BeyBlade
R slash hair, dude. 4.4 million members.
02:08:36
billfrankenstein
Got a haircut.
02:08:37
BeyBlade
Sorry, guys.
02:08:38
billfrankenstein
My hairline, still good.
02:08:40
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah.
02:08:42
AI_PLACEHOLDER
that
02:08:42
BeyBlade
Shave my head. Why? Felt like it. It'll grow back.
02:08:45
Steve-O
yeah
02:08:49
BeyBlade
You know, jenny ah Jenny said, she's like, what if it doesn't grow back? I was like, I went, are you kidding me?
02:08:54
Steve-O
that's just that seinfeld episode
02:08:55
BeyBlade
You wouldn't get me?
02:08:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
you know who I am?
02:08:57
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah. i That one I do know.
02:08:59
AI_PLACEHOLDER
you know who I am?
02:08:59
BeyBlade
I know. I've seen that one.
02:09:01
billfrankenstein
The horseshoe pattern. Classic horseshoe pattern.
02:09:04
BeyBlade
Dude, i was like, look at this is my My father. My father is ah the strongest hairline. my dad still has better hair than me. it's It's actually.
02:09:13
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
02:09:13
Steve-O
Well, that's because he's Raditz.
02:09:16
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And that's because you're you're only half...
02:09:16
BeyBlade
one
02:09:17
Steve-O
i
02:09:18
AI_PLACEHOLDER
He's only half of you. Like, he's half of you.
02:09:19
BeyBlade
i I know. i'm only but Yeah, my mom gave me. I don't know what. She didn't give me like the flow flowy hair.
02:09:27
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Dude, we found we found one one light brown strand of hair on Owen's head.
02:09:28
BeyBlade
My dad has flowy blood.
02:09:35
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I was like, see, Sam?
02:09:35
BeyBlade
Oh, shit. did you
02:09:36
Steve-O
Whoa.
02:09:36
BeyBlade
Did you immediately accuse her?
02:09:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
i was like, see, Sam? He got some of you, too.
02:09:38
BeyBlade
look, look, see?
02:09:41
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I was like, see, you can't be salty anymore.
02:09:42
billfrankenstein
Yeah, whatever.
02:09:43
BeyBlade
I'm sure she
02:09:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
People... yeah
02:09:45
billfrankenstein
yeah you know what?
02:09:46
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Literally one strand.
02:09:46
billfrankenstein
that's that butter or not That's that buttering up she don't like, right?
02:09:50
BeyBlade
was thrilled. She was thrilled to hear that.
02:09:53
billfrankenstein
b
02:09:53
AI_PLACEHOLDER
that funny though?
02:09:54
billfrankenstein
That's some horseshit.
02:09:55
BeyBlade
ah look look see
02:09:57
Steve-O
There you go.
02:09:57
AI_PLACEHOLDER
One strand.
02:10:01
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Literally one strand of hair.
02:10:02
BeyBlade
sure if she was thrilled too thrilled to hear that
02:10:05
Steve-O
right, everybody.
02:10:06
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:10:06
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I plucked it right out.
02:10:07
Steve-O
Tell us how many strands you have.
02:10:08
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And I said, I get fault i get full custody now.
02:10:09
Steve-O
You plucked it out. Yeah. you ah
02:10:11
BeyBlade
Wow. That's the most hateful thing I've ever heard.
02:10:12
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I'm the captain now.
02:10:16
Steve-O
We're going to Jollibee for dinner tonight.
02:10:18
AI_PLACEHOLDER
ah Yeah.
02:10:19
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's probably me tonight.
02:10:20
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You're gonna...
02:10:21
BeyBlade
He can't walk in here with his brown hair.
02:10:22
AI_PLACEHOLDER
You get hot dogs in your spaghetti, not meatballs.
02:10:23
Steve-O
ah
02:10:25
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Sorry.
02:10:26
billfrankenstein
you
02:10:29
AI_PLACEHOLDER
yeah But yeah. So...
02:10:32
Steve-O
Oh.
02:10:34
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Anyway...
02:10:36
Steve-O
All right, everybody.
02:10:36
AI_PLACEHOLDER
that it? Is that all of it?
02:10:37
Steve-O
i think I think that's it for this week.
02:10:39
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Shit, bro.
02:10:40
BeyBlade
Shout out to to Christmas and Hanukkah and i in all of them.
02:10:43
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Shout out chat GPT.
02:10:45
BeyBlade
you got
02:10:45
billfrankenstein
And to Christ. Is that what were going to say, Devin?
02:10:48
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Keep the Christ and Christmas, Chris.
02:10:50
billfrankenstein
Oh, what the fuck?
02:10:51
Steve-O
I hit the wrong button. I'm sorry.
02:10:54
BeyBlade
Shout out to Pluribus.
02:10:56
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
02:10:57
BeyBlade
Rock out.
02:10:58
billfrankenstein
Keeping it real with AI and everything.
02:10:58
BeyBlade
Santa Claus.
02:11:00
billfrankenstein
It's great.
02:11:01
BeyBlade
Shout out to ah me not being dead tomorrow.
02:11:05
Steve-O
Don't everybody get better if you're feeling sick.
02:11:05
BeyBlade
I think. Yeah, dude.
02:11:08
billfrankenstein
Yeah, take some time. nothing now Your health is most important.
02:11:11
BeyBlade
think i mean i'm gonna yeah think I'm to have to take the old the old CVID, you know?
02:11:13
Steve-O
I woke up feeling rough too.
02:11:17
Steve-O
Oh, take the test.
02:11:18
BeyBlade
Well, I didn't want to take it to deck. I thought it was too early, but I was like,
02:11:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah, the new ones, can they go up your butt. So.
02:11:23
BeyBlade
oh oh. Maybe I'll pass.
02:11:25
AI_PLACEHOLDER
Oh, you got to take a COVID test?
02:11:25
BeyBlade
Maybe I'll just... think I just should, I think. You know, just kind of...
02:11:31
Steve-O
Just as nicety.
02:11:31
billfrankenstein
Test the waters.
02:11:32
AI_PLACEHOLDER
And then you're going to positive you're gonna set a positive one from three years ago to your boss and be like, yo, bro, dance.
02:11:32
Steve-O
a nicety
02:11:35
BeyBlade
And then what I'll do, yeah I'll find, I'll i just Google, you know, apparently that was a thing. Somebody posted on Reddit or something. He was like, Hey, just in case you need one, he's posted a positive.
02:11:47
Steve-O
That's messed up, dude.
02:11:48
BeyBlade
gift Is it, or is it ingenious?
02:11:48
billfrankenstein
I got one on my phone.
02:11:51
BeyBlade
see?
02:11:51
Steve-O
Hey, you know what? That's also...
02:11:52
BeyBlade
little bit bit up
02:11:54
Steve-O
that's so That's the new Christmas card for the year.
02:11:56
AI_PLACEHOLDER
It's a COVID podcast.
02:11:57
billfrankenstein
Mike positive COVID does.
02:11:57
Steve-O
you just You just send COVID tests from all your family.
02:11:58
AI_PLACEHOLDER
I can't make it. Sorry.
02:12:01
billfrankenstein
I remember sending it to Stinn when he showed up last year.
02:12:05
Steve-O
like, sorry.
02:12:05
billfrankenstein
was like, fuck! Yeah,
02:12:09
BeyBlade
Oh yeah, that's right, dude.
02:12:11
billfrankenstein
yeah that sucked.
02:12:11
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:12:12
Steve-O
Hi, Chris. Remember me? Get away from me.
02:12:16
billfrankenstein
Get away from me, Stan. I'll make you dead.
02:12:17
BeyBlade
Yeah. Everything.
02:12:19
Steve-O
I'll make you dead.
02:12:20
BeyBlade
ah
02:12:22
billfrankenstein
That's all I would say.
02:12:23
BeyBlade
yeah
02:12:23
billfrankenstein
If saw him and I had COVID.
02:12:27
Steve-O
All right. We'll see y'all next week. Happy and Merry Christmas and happy holidays and everything.
02:12:35
BeyBlade
everything