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The Game Awards 2025
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Introduction and Holiday Humor
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BeyBlade
Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy Podcast for the week, ah December 14th, 2025. Do you hear those w ringlings? Do you hear those jinglings? That's Santa Claus creeping around your little house, you throw up the UAV, and he's just circling your neighborhood, regardless of religious creed.
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BeyBlade
That's him, Santa Claus, as one of his little helpers, me, Devin Kopech, also, Chris Galani.
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billfrankenstein
Hey, first of all, that ringling, jingling, you've been hearing. That's all the jewelry that I just bought because I am rolling in the money now. Hey!
00:00:36
BeyBlade
Oh, my God.
00:00:36
billfrankenstein
hey
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BeyBlade
Also rolling in the dully Steve
00:00:42
Steve-O
That's right. I opened up a pizzeria and well, let's just say it's a little slice of heaven.
00:00:49
billfrankenstein
What a name. Is that what it's called?
00:00:51
unc leon
Mmm.
00:00:51
Steve-O
No, it's called Big Shitty Pizza.
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billfrankenstein
It's a big shitty pizza.
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unc leon
Oh.
00:00:54
billfrankenstein
Check it out, folks.
Wrestling Themes and Entrance Music Origin
00:00:56
BeyBlade
And the ACL of every everyone's favorite quarterback, John Suarez.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:01:01
BeyBlade
How doing?
00:01:02
billfrankenstein
Snap!
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unc leon
Oh.
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BeyBlade
a
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unc leon
Snap. Tiffy time. It's Tiffy time.
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BeyBlade
yeah
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billfrankenstein
Tiffy time.
00:01:09
BeyBlade
It's TV time, Monica.
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billfrankenstein
think it's Tiffy time pretty much everywhere at some point. It's like happy hour, right? I don't even know what that means.
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unc leon
Yes.
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billfrankenstein
What is Tiffy time?
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BeyBlade
It's
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billfrankenstein
She's wrestler? Is that like a and her name?
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Steve-O
As a wrestler, it is the wrestler.
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unc leon
Google her. Google her.
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billfrankenstein
ah No, I've seen the pictures of her.
00:01:27
unc leon
Oh.
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billfrankenstein
I just didn't know what her name meant.
00:01:28
unc leon
Oh, but what does it mean? Is it over is it a move?
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BeyBlade
TV time.
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unc leon
Is it a finishing move? Or that's just her name?
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billfrankenstein
No, it's who you this who she is.
00:01:33
Steve-O
I think it's just like the gimmick. It's like when it's when it's Tiffy time, it's think it's Tiffany Stratton.
00:01:36
BeyBlade
Are talking about? Oh, I think it's like her intro music, right?
00:01:38
unc leon
Tiffy time.
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billfrankenstein
Her name is Tiffy Time. It's not Tiffy, right?
00:01:44
BeyBlade
No, it's Tiffany Stratton is her name.
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billfrankenstein
Oh, I see. Well, that'll make my Google searches a lot easier.
00:01:48
BeyBlade
but But I think when her like,
00:01:51
billfrankenstein
Thank you, fellas.
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BeyBlade
when her intro music hits, she go, you hear like, it's Tiffany time. And then you hear, you know, the music.
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billfrankenstein
She slides down a long pole.
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BeyBlade
ah
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billfrankenstein
That's what imagine. I don't know. i don't watch wrestling much, folks.
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BeyBlade
yeah
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billfrankenstein
so
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Steve-O
I think she came out of a Barbie box at WrestleMania, right?
00:02:09
BeyBlade
Did wrestling introduce like the concept of of intro music?
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billfrankenstein
Barbie box? That makes sense.
00:02:15
BeyBlade
like
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billfrankenstein
Yeah.
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BeyBlade
Because it's pretty great, like just conceptually.
00:02:21
billfrankenstein
Well, no. I think it was boxing.
00:02:24
BeyBlade
Damn, you're probably right.
00:02:25
billfrankenstein
I think it was boxing. But they they they took it and they flew, Devin.
00:02:29
BeyBlade
Yeah, but I guess like they really, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:02:30
billfrankenstein
They soared.
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BeyBlade
Boxing walked so wrestling could run.
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billfrankenstein
It's clearly better. Like, obviously.
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BeyBlade
Yeah. Well, because you can be consistent, right? You can just like Stone Cold Dream would play every time.
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billfrankenstein
Well, up you know what? There was one instance where I think boxing had the one-up, and that was that Tyson Fury fight. He came out on that big throne.
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Steve-O
Oh, I do. I
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billfrankenstein
The Gypsy King, that was cool.
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BeyBlade
Yeah, know yeah, yeah. But i um yeah, you're right.
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BeyBlade
You're right. oh
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Steve-O
i do have information and it says professional wrestling was the first sport to consistently use entrance music.
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billfrankenstein
Oh, shit.
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Steve-O
ah And it's, it's a kidding this to gorgeous George from the 1950s.
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BeyBlade
who
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billfrankenstein
Wow. So it predates boxing. boxing took it from wrestling then.
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Steve-O
They said, wow why don't we just have any these guys come out in dead silence?
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billfrankenstein
What you're saying.
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BeyBlade
This is awkward.
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billfrankenstein
Like nobody claps or cheers either. Like they they're said they they can't.
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BeyBlade
It's just some asshole going like, and here comes Curling Joe.
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Steve-O
We need a moment of silence.
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BeyBlade
yeah
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billfrankenstein
Everyone be quiet. Everyone be quiet.
00:03:34
Steve-O
Carly Jo coming to the ring.
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BeyBlade
Early Joe coming out here. oh gonna Gonna hit him with the uppercut.
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billfrankenstein
I guess it makes more sense because wrestling is more flashy. It would have to have so we're at some music, you know.
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BeyBlade
Oh, yeah.
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billfrankenstein
It's got more style, right?
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unc leon
Oh.
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Steve-O
Chris, what would your entrance be?
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billfrankenstein
My entrance music?
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Steve-O
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
Why can't we be friends?
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Steve-O
That's a good one.
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BeyBlade
Oh, come on, man. No way.
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Steve-O
Oh, de Devin, hold on, hold on.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah.
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Steve-O
I got one for you. You ready? All right. I need you to like ah do your own like announcement, and then I'm going to play you in. Okay, Devin? Ready?
00:04:09
BeyBlade
ah Wait, so like like here comes from X-Weigning at...
00:04:13
Steve-O
Yeah, yeah, Do your own entrance, and then I'll hit your music for you.
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BeyBlade
Here comes from hailing from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, weighing 732 pounds at five foot eight
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unc leon
absolute
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BeyBlade
absolute devin here he comesbs
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billfrankenstein
That's
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BeyBlade
you
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unc leon
No, no, no.
00:04:36
BeyBlade
Here it is. And you know what's playing on the TitanTron.
00:04:38
billfrankenstein
wonderful. I'm glad that you picked that song to come in on.
00:04:39
unc leon
God damn it.
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Steve-O
All right.
00:04:40
BeyBlade
You know what's playing on the TitanTron.
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unc leon
That's terrible.
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billfrankenstein
That was wonderful.
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BeyBlade
call that snapback.
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billfrankenstein
yeah
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unc leon
No way. No way.
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billfrankenstein
and and is that you the i am glad that you picked that song
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unc leon
No way. no i
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billfrankenstein
ah come in on as wonderful
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unc leon
oh god
00:04:51
BeyBlade
I'll be honest.
Dog Park Incident and Confrontation
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BeyBlade
i don't...
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unc leon
It's disgusting.
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BeyBlade
I don't respect... you know with the snapback I don't respect anyone who doesn't, like any guy who doesn't immediately, like, would be able to clock exactly what their wrestling theme would be.
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unc leon
ah
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billfrankenstein
I just did.
00:05:09
BeyBlade
no No, that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like, I feel like you should be able to go up to any guy be like, yo, d what would your wrestling theme, and they'd be like, it would be this.
00:05:14
billfrankenstein
oh, he already has it loaded. I i see
00:05:19
BeyBlade
Because it's like, I think that's just ingrained in a lot of people's
00:05:20
Steve-O
Like, we need a song. We need a song for you. What's your song that we play when you come out on stage?
00:05:28
billfrankenstein
Yeah, what do you got, Devin?
00:05:29
BeyBlade
Oh, me? ah After dinner, payback by from Autumn to Ashes.
00:05:30
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:05:35
billfrankenstein
He had that loaded, too.
00:05:35
BeyBlade
Boom.
00:05:36
Steve-O
That was immediate.
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BeyBlade
Dude, I'm telling you.
00:05:37
unc leon
Damn, dude. Locked and loaded.
00:05:38
Steve-O
Damn.
00:05:38
BeyBlade
That's what I'm saying. by the way, i didn't tell you guys this. Your boy almost caught an assault charge at the dog park yesterday.
00:05:48
billfrankenstein
Did you eat one of them?
00:05:49
unc leon
saw that.
00:05:50
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, this guy was just being psychotic in the dog park.
00:05:56
billfrankenstein
Oh, boy.
00:05:56
BeyBlade
And... He was like, basically his dog had thrown up in the middle of the park and he starts freaking out. He's like, I need a bag. i need a bag.
00:06:08
BeyBlade
This shit's contagious.
00:06:10
Steve-O
I'm sorry, what?
00:06:10
BeyBlade
Yeah. And he starts like, yeah, it was his own dog.
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unc leon
his own It was his own dog? His own dog threw up?........................
00:06:14
BeyBlade
And he starts to kick in at these other dogs to like get away from the vomit. And I was like, that's a bit aggressive, but like, you know, whatever. Uh, and so he gets a bag and then he it takes him like five minutes to clean up. I actually walk over. I'm like, do you need help? And he's like, no, I'm good.
00:06:31
BeyBlade
Uh, and then proceeds to still be really shitty. And, uh, there was this young couple next to me. know they were a couple, but they they were friendly clearly.
00:06:42
BeyBlade
Um, and this guy fucking punches a dog right in the face.
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billfrankenstein
What?
00:06:48
Steve-O
The Throb guy?
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BeyBlade
Yeah, and then hes then he yells, whose fucking dog is this? And the guy right next to me is like, that's my dog. And he's blah, blah. And then I just walked it in. I just got in the guy's face. And I was like, yo, maybe it's not a good idea to just punch random people's dogs.
00:07:06
BeyBlade
ah And then he's like, it's it's that's called training. And I was like, dude, I'm just saying, if you that was my dog, I was like, we would have big fucking problem.
00:07:11
unc leon
Whoa.
00:07:15
BeyBlade
And then he accused me of bullying him.
00:07:18
billfrankenstein
Whoa!
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BeyBlade
Because I'm bigger than him.
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unc leon
Damn.
00:07:20
billfrankenstein
He was bullying a dog!
00:07:22
BeyBlade
He said, he's like, well, what's up, big man? You think because you're bigger than me, you can bully me? And I was like, all I'm trying to tell you, dude is...
00:07:28
Steve-O
You should have just said yes.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah!
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BeyBlade
Yeah, trust me. i was...
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unc leon
Actually, yeah I do believe that.
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Steve-O
Yes.
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BeyBlade
i had i had that weird, like... um ah sure The Robert Downey Jr. Sherlock Holmes moment where I was like just eyeballing certain areas because I was like, oh, this guy has creepy homeless long nails.
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billfrankenstein
Parts the ears so he can't hear anymore.
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BeyBlade
He's going to scratch me.
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billfrankenstein
Death in him. Spit in his eyes so he blinds.
00:07:49
BeyBlade
Yeah, no, but I was like, he's going to scratch my face.
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billfrankenstein
He's blind.
00:07:52
BeyBlade
ah but Yeah, yeah. It was one of those type things. And I was just like, dis-cobopulate.
00:07:55
billfrankenstein
Head to the solar plexus. Diskebobulate.
00:07:59
BeyBlade
Yeah, and i was just and I was just like, dude, all I'm trying to tell you is some friendly advice.
00:07:59
Steve-O
Okay.
00:08:05
BeyBlade
Don't go hit him random people's dogs in the face. Because it's like, not only did he hit a dog, right? And if it's your dog, I kind of get it. if's that's your I don't love it, but it's your dog, right?
00:08:16
unc leon
yeah, yeah, but you're a dog. You're not going somebody's face for doing it.
00:08:18
BeyBlade
But it's somebody else's dog, and then you're a dick to the guy whose dog you just hit. And I was just like, dude. What is wrong with you? Like, i was just like, i my brain was just like, I refuse to let this guy, what?
00:08:28
billfrankenstein
never punched a dog in my life. Oh, well, that's not true. I did punch a dog once and it wasn't my dog.
00:08:34
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, but that was that was like, a it was attacking.
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billfrankenstein
It was biting my dog.
00:08:39
BeyBlade
Yeah, imagine if this dog was just playing near you and you punched it in the face.
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billfrankenstein
really
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billfrankenstein
That's the only time I punched a dog, though. I want to really make that clear.
00:08:47
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
Okay. I know Steve's going to twist this fucking shit around. I don't punch dogs, okay?
00:08:53
BeyBlade
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
He's probably going to cut it and he's probably going to like, I punch dogs. I punch dogs. I love to punch dogs. And he's going to, you know.
00:09:01
BeyBlade
Dude, you know you're just giving them the ammunition. You just gave them the sound bite.
00:09:03
unc leon
Yeah.
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billfrankenstein
Shit.
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BeyBlade
gave them the sound bite, dude.
00:09:05
billfrankenstein
Shit.
00:09:06
Steve-O
I'm just feeding the algorithm, baby.
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billfrankenstein
God.
00:09:08
BeyBlade
Yeah.
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Steve-O
Don't you worry.
00:09:08
billfrankenstein
God damn it. AI is going to think i'd punch dogs.
00:09:10
BeyBlade
I'm going to ask chat GPT, what what is Chris Galani most known for?
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billfrankenstein
yeah
00:09:16
billfrankenstein
Now chat GTP is not going to go on a date with me.
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BeyBlade
Punky that dog.
00:09:20
unc leon
Oh, yeah.
00:09:20
BeyBlade
oh Yeah. I don't
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unc leon
You're going have to marry one of these one one day, Chris.
00:09:24
billfrankenstein
I know, it's a plan.
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BeyBlade
know.
00:09:26
billfrankenstein
already figured that out.
00:09:26
BeyBlade
Anyways, don't even know. That just like reminds... Whatever you said reminded me that that guy punched a dog and I got really mad at him.
00:09:35
billfrankenstein
ah Yeah, it's I don't like hearing that, to be honest.
00:09:38
BeyBlade
No.
00:09:38
billfrankenstein
that Those two words.
00:09:38
BeyBlade
Well...
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Steve-O
<unk> about That's a bummer.
00:09:40
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:09:40
billfrankenstein
no
00:09:40
BeyBlade
Again, my thing, i was like, this man cannot leave this park thinking he was in the right.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah, you shouldn't.
00:09:46
BeyBlade
And hopefully...
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billfrankenstein
no No dog punchers.
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unc leon
so
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billfrankenstein
I really want to point that out there. We're not dog punchers.
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unc leon
On a scale of zero, like just zero to me, me in 2016 and somebody breaks their phone out at a movie, like how, how, where, where on that scale were you?
00:09:52
Steve-O
Yo.
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billfrankenstein
Ooh.
00:10:11
billfrankenstein
Getting in their face immediately.
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BeyBlade
oh honest afraid
00:10:14
billfrankenstein
That's...
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unc leon
Excuse with me. Excuse me.
00:10:16
BeyBlade
Honestly, I was pretty calm.
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unc leon
Yeah.
00:10:17
BeyBlade
I just walked up to him and he said, hey man, ah like exactly like I'm saying.
00:10:19
unc leon
Okay.
00:10:21
billfrankenstein
Ooh, we played it cool.
00:10:22
BeyBlade
I was hey man, ah maybe you shouldn't go around punching people's dogs.
00:10:26
unc leon
It wasn't, hey man, fuck you, let's go, and then he threw your shit on the ground.
00:10:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, no. the The only thing I did say, i was like, yeah, i was like, because honestly, if that was my dog, we would have had a big fucking problem. And the fact, I think that's what I said that got him.
00:10:37
billfrankenstein
Yeah, if somebody punched Duke...
00:10:40
BeyBlade
Oh, and then he's like, well, which dog is yours?
00:10:41
unc leon
Yeah.
00:10:42
BeyBlade
And I said, dude, don't worry about it.
00:10:43
Steve-O
Whoa.
00:10:44
BeyBlade
He's like, I'll kick your dog. And I was like, just get out of here. i was like, just leave the park.
00:10:49
Steve-O
It sounds like you should have fought this guy, Devin.
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BeyBlade
Please get out of here.
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billfrankenstein
Yeah.
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unc leon
Yeah.
00:10:52
BeyBlade
dude, I didn't want to get my face scratched by a homeless man. Like, it really wasn't on my bingo card to get...
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unc leon
Yeah, and get.
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Steve-O
He had the lady Deathstrike nails.
00:11:01
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:11:01
BeyBlade
He...
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Steve-O
What's going on?
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BeyBlade
Dude, he had the... Yeah. He had them cocaine nails, dude.
00:11:05
unc leon
Yeah.
00:11:05
billfrankenstein
no
00:11:05
BeyBlade
That's what he had.
00:11:06
Steve-O
Oh,
00:11:07
billfrankenstein
All right.
00:11:07
BeyBlade
I don't know what it was, but I was just like... Yeah, exist there was just no upside to it, right? But... And then sat on a bench, and then and I took a picture of him.
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BeyBlade
And I was like, fuck this guy.
00:11:18
Steve-O
I remember a few years back getting off the Patco and i was trying to casually walk by a homeless man arguing with a delivery driver. And like I was squeezing by them because they were like taking up the entire sidewalk.
00:11:33
Steve-O
And like I put my hand against ah the homeless guy's back to kind of just like make sure he didn't like fully bump into me. And he took that as me like aggressively doing something to him.
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BeyBlade
And
00:11:44
Steve-O
So he grabbed my earbuds and he yanked them out of my ears.
00:11:49
BeyBlade
it's when they were wired.
00:11:49
billfrankenstein
Whoa.
00:11:50
Steve-O
Yeah, this is when they were wired.
00:11:51
unc leon
Ooh.
00:11:51
Steve-O
And i
00:11:52
unc leon
That's... Mmm.
00:11:54
Steve-O
I grabbed them back and I put my finger up and I like pointed at him in the face. And for some reason, the only thing that came out of my mouth was, no, you're being bad. No.
00:12:04
unc leon
Oh my god.
00:12:05
Steve-O
and it And it worked. I just, yeah, I was scolding him like an animal and it worked.
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unc leon
And it probably freaked him out. It probably freaked him the fuck out.
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Steve-O
i I walked away casually.
00:12:13
unc leon
Bad dog.
00:12:14
billfrankenstein
Steve, youve you've you've had some you've had some wild run-ins with with homeless folk.
00:12:14
Steve-O
um like
00:12:15
unc leon
He just had... He's like... He was like shot...
00:12:18
Steve-O
So have you though, Chris. So have you.
00:12:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I know.
00:12:21
unc leon
yeah He's ah like Sean Penn in one battle after another.
00:12:21
billfrankenstein
I guess that's just who we are.
00:12:26
unc leon
He just has a huge boner when fucking Steve's walking away.
00:12:30
BeyBlade
Touch me again.
00:12:31
Steve-O
Oh my God.
00:12:31
billfrankenstein
got his humiliation kick.
00:12:32
Steve-O
oh my God. I've been changed. I've been changed.
00:12:35
billfrankenstein
the
00:12:37
unc leon
just fucking super horny after that.
00:12:39
Steve-O
He just always waits at the Patco for me afterwards.
00:12:43
BeyBlade
Point at me again. love him.
00:12:44
unc leon
Yeah.
00:12:47
Steve-O
Who's a bad boy.
00:12:48
unc leon
You like you like tall you like tall white dudes? I
00:12:51
Steve-O
Oh my God. Get away.
00:12:52
billfrankenstein
know
00:12:52
BeyBlade
love
00:12:53
Steve-O
Get away.
00:12:55
unc leon
yeah i love
00:12:58
billfrankenstein
yeah I guess we've all had our run-ins. that's That is somewhat true.
00:13:02
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah.
00:13:02
billfrankenstein
Well, parted partly zoy
00:13:03
BeyBlade
And also, yeah, listen, all I'm trying to say is ah if you just explain to somebody what they did is insane, more often than not, they they definitely back down.
00:13:16
BeyBlade
And they're like, yeah, okay. Unless they're just a maniac, then yeah.
00:13:19
Steve-O
I goofed a little. um might have goofed him.
00:13:21
BeyBlade
when you're Like, the guy literally was just sitting on ah on the bench thinking about our interaction when I left. And I was like, all right. See you, dude. You fucking maniac.
00:13:32
Steve-O
How is the guy whose dog got punched reacting? Was
00:13:37
BeyBlade
um
00:13:38
unc leon
Yeah, was he just soft?
00:13:38
BeyBlade
Okay, I don't...
00:13:39
Steve-O
he like, okay there, buddy. Well, hold the phone there, pal.
00:13:42
unc leon
how How old was he?
00:13:43
BeyBlade
Listen. He was younger.
00:13:45
unc leon
How old was he?
00:13:45
BeyBlade
He was like in his 20s.
00:13:49
BeyBlade
I don't mean to sound to speak rude, because...
00:13:53
billfrankenstein
Oh, boy.
00:13:53
BeyBlade
But he was, he was, you know, he was pretty soft. he was a soft looking guy.
00:13:58
unc leon
Damn.
00:13:59
BeyBlade
He just went, okay. Like, like when the guy said, whose dog is that? He went, oh, that's mine. And that was it. Granted, I didn't really let too much else transpire because as soon as he said that and the guy started mouthing off again, that's when I just jumped Cause I was like, I, I refuse to watch this any longer.
00:14:18
BeyBlade
Yeah. Because I was just getting... i was incensed. And the guy, when he left, he kind of was like, bye. Like, to me. and I was like, alright.
00:14:18
Steve-O
I gotta take the reins here.
00:14:27
billfrankenstein
Oh, that's nice of him.
00:14:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, I think he...
00:14:29
unc leon
Yeah, at least he said goodbye to you.
00:14:29
BeyBlade
It was basically an acknowledgement of, like, thanks for, you know, for saying something.
00:14:33
unc leon
thank you.
00:14:34
billfrankenstein
Goodbye. I love you.
00:14:36
Steve-O
I think that was Captain America.
00:14:36
BeyBlade
But at the same time, the douchey part of me wanted to be like, bro, why did you even let that guy fucking speak to you like that?
00:14:42
unc leon
Bro, what the fuck, bro?
00:14:43
BeyBlade
But...
00:14:43
Steve-O
Stand up for your dog.
00:14:44
unc leon
Yeah.
00:14:45
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, fucking stand up. Like if that if whoever he was with wasn't. Actually, girlfriend or not, I hope she lost respect for him just a little bit.
00:14:57
BeyBlade
That's pretty fucking.
00:14:59
billfrankenstein
Yeah, you got to stand up for yourself in that scenario.
00:14:59
BeyBlade
It's pretty bad. Yeah, man. I know. I think that guy's going to be thinking about that for a while. Like, I should have fucking said something. Such a piece of shit.
00:15:08
Steve-O
That was my moment. That was my moment that I
00:15:10
BeyBlade
That was his moment,
Stranger Things Character Debate
00:15:11
unc leon
No, that you know what? That guy probably had a gun, and you helped somebody not get killed today.
00:15:11
Steve-O
blew it
00:15:11
BeyBlade
dude.
00:15:14
BeyBlade
Oh, oh i saved that and I saved that crazy dude's life.
00:15:19
unc leon
Yeah.
00:15:19
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:15:21
Steve-O
it.
00:15:22
BeyBlade
I believe it.
00:15:23
unc leon
He had his hand on the on the holster whole time.
00:15:24
Steve-O
Yeah, he he looked at you and he was like, thanks, pal.
00:15:27
unc leon
Okay.
00:15:28
Steve-O
Thanks. I was about to...
00:15:29
unc leon
thanks Thanks, a little bro.
00:15:29
BeyBlade
He uncocks the gun. Yeah.
00:15:32
unc leon
Thanks, a little bro.
00:15:33
Steve-O
Thanks for stepping up and saving all of our lives.
00:15:33
BeyBlade
man. Oh, man.
00:15:33
unc leon
the mayor You did me a solid, little bro. Thanks, a little bro.
00:15:36
BeyBlade
now man welcome
00:15:41
unc leon
That's funny.
00:15:42
Steve-O
We've got quite ah quite the catch up for the past few weeks.
00:15:46
billfrankenstein
Yeah, we do.
00:15:46
unc leon
Yeah, boy.
00:15:47
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15:47
billfrankenstein
Yeah, we do.
00:15:48
BeyBlade
Well, Steve was too cool.
00:15:48
Steve-O
ah Big things happened.
00:15:50
BeyBlade
was too cool last week.
00:15:51
unc leon
Stranger things happened.
00:15:52
Steve-O
It was my birthday. It was my birthday.
00:15:53
billfrankenstein
And i know i know for a fact here, um I wasn't here for the past two weeks or let love the week before I missed too.
00:15:53
BeyBlade
Yeah. Birthday Boy was too cool.
00:16:04
billfrankenstein
I didn't miss it. I was on the whole time. You guys just didn't hear me.
00:16:08
BeyBlade
well, that explains it.
00:16:09
unc leon
Oh, shit.
00:16:10
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I recorded the whole podcast. I thought you guys were talking to me for like 30 minutes.
00:16:11
unc leon
You were on mute.
00:16:15
billfrankenstein
And then I just started going off like rants and stuff.
00:16:15
BeyBlade
I...
00:16:20
BeyBlade
that Yeah.
00:16:20
billfrankenstein
It's probably best you didn't record that. There's a lot.
00:16:22
BeyBlade
that's it's It's smart.
00:16:23
Steve-O
Chris, I have eight hours of audio from you.
00:16:25
billfrankenstein
Oh, shit.
00:16:26
BeyBlade
the
00:16:28
billfrankenstein
Oh. just You should delete that.
00:16:30
BeyBlade
Whoops.
00:16:31
billfrankenstein
All right.
00:16:33
Steve-O
Yeah, where am I going put this? Where am I to put all this audio?
00:16:36
billfrankenstein
Well, you know, I saw a bunch of things. And I think I just want to do. with with You guys didn't talk about Stranger Things, right? You didn't?
00:16:45
BeyBlade
ah We did.
00:16:45
unc leon
No, because I wasn't caught up until then.
00:16:46
BeyBlade
Oh, no, no. we We only, yeah, we vaguely talked about it because, yeah, John wasn't caught up.
00:16:49
Steve-O
Dabbled.
00:16:50
unc leon
Yeah.
00:16:51
billfrankenstein
Okay. I don't think I missed much else.
00:16:53
unc leon
I'm caught up now. Caught up now. I love Derek. He's my favorite character.
00:16:58
billfrankenstein
Dipshit, Derek! Yeah, got rules.
00:17:00
unc leon
Yeah. Suck a fat one, Devin, for not liking him.
00:17:04
BeyBlade
Yeah, I don't like him.
00:17:04
unc leon
He rules.
00:17:05
BeyBlade
I think Steve doesn't like him either, right?
00:17:05
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:17:07
Steve-O
No, I didn't dislike him.
00:17:09
BeyBlade
Oh, man.
00:17:10
Steve-O
i just i just I just said ah that that type of person doesn't exist anymore.
00:17:10
BeyBlade
Steve's just backing away. He knows.
00:17:19
billfrankenstein
That's true.
00:17:20
unc leon
Well, yeah, but this takes place in the 80s, Devin.
00:17:20
BeyBlade
Well, but he existed in the eighties. Yeah. In 87.
00:17:22
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I agree.
00:17:22
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:17:23
unc leon
Or Steven.
00:17:23
BeyBlade
I didn't say it doesn't exist.
00:17:24
unc leon
Steve. Steven.
00:17:26
BeyBlade
I just didn't like it.
00:17:26
Steve-O
Oh, no, no, no. i'm just i just you you know I just haven't seen that donkey lips style persona.
00:17:35
billfrankenstein
I think it's, I think it's a, if you're going to introduce new characters, you got to make them stand out. And I i thought they did a good job.
00:17:40
BeyBlade
Listen, even though technically she's not new, but like Holly, I think was great.
00:17:45
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:17:45
BeyBlade
Um,
00:17:46
billfrankenstein
Really? I actually kind of like dipshit Derek more. Yeah.
00:17:48
BeyBlade
I don't know. There's just something about...
00:17:51
unc leon
Is Holly the same actor that played her in previous seasons?
00:17:53
BeyBlade
No. No, I looked it up. Yeah, it's just... They just got somebody that they knew was going to be good, I guess.
00:17:59
billfrankenstein
Well, that there is a, ah ah let's call it a pro and con list.
00:17:59
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:18:03
billfrankenstein
Is that, no, a good and bad, hot or not list of acting on this show um that you could just rally off. I mean, everybody sort of knows who's good and who isn't ah by this point.
00:18:14
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:18:16
billfrankenstein
um There's a, I'd say one or two is in the middle, but it's pretty much clearly defined who is good and who isn't on on the show. um Me, personally, I'm not,
00:18:27
billfrankenstein
a giant fan of, of will or, or, uh, 11. I think both those performances, whether be writing or, or just their take on the characters.
00:18:37
BeyBlade
I think both both the both the brothers are super great
00:18:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:18:41
BeyBlade
if i
00:18:42
billfrankenstein
Yeah. You're kind of, yeah. I mean, yeah.
00:18:43
Steve-O
I think that's kind of universal too. Like everyone agrees with that.
00:18:47
billfrankenstein
And then you have, you know, your, your, your, your Robbins and your Steve's. And I, dad I say Dustin too. I like him. You know, he's got some character.
00:18:58
billfrankenstein
He's going through like a dark patch.
00:19:00
unc leon
I'm kind of... Yeah, but i'm I'm kind of, like, getting, like, tired of, like, him and Steve, like, fucking, like, being forced to go at it all the time.
00:19:09
billfrankenstein
Going at it.
00:19:10
BeyBlade
It's like a will they, won't they type of relationship with Steve.
00:19:12
billfrankenstein
ah You know, John, I see a few redundancies in this. That that one is is pretty apparent. And also the relationship between Eleven and Hopper is kind of in that realm too.
00:19:22
unc leon
Yeah. and um And I'm also... Because, like, how many years has it been since the first one in in the... in the, uh, in the, inside the universe.
00:19:31
BeyBlade
and the In the show itself?
00:19:33
unc leon
Yeah. It's been a few years, right?
00:19:36
billfrankenstein
Yeah, for four, five.
00:19:36
unc leon
Six, four or five years.
00:19:37
BeyBlade
Probably four or five years, yeah.
00:19:40
unc leon
Like, I, I'm, I'm also getting fucking tired of, like, 11 talking like a fucking six-year-old the whole time.
00:19:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:19:46
billfrankenstein
Yes.
00:19:46
Steve-O
Bye.
00:19:47
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude, that's rough.
00:19:47
unc leon
Like, you would think that, you would think that she would be, like, fully, like, you know, immersed now and, like, kind of, like, her own person, you know, but she's still,
00:19:58
unc leon
friends don't lie you're asking me to lie and it's like dude just shut the fuck up and blow some shit up with your mind like that's what that's why you're here you know
00:20:06
billfrankenstein
See, I i think i think a better actress wouldn't, that wouldn't seem as forced to.
00:20:06
BeyBlade
No, dribble.
00:20:12
billfrankenstein
Like, i personally, that's what I think.
00:20:12
unc leon
yeah it's almost like if i'm if i'm hopper i'd bully the fuck out of you too if you talk like that all the time you know get can get canceled yeah yeah seriously
00:20:19
BeyBlade
is
00:20:22
billfrankenstein
Yeah, of course. Quit talking like a baby. Who are you, Criss Angel?
00:20:27
BeyBlade
Oh, by the way, i didn't realize this about a Hopper lore, really more David Harvard lore.
00:20:27
Steve-O
a mind freak. I'm
00:20:35
BeyBlade
I didn't realize that Lily Allen's entire album is just like a dunk on him.
00:20:39
unc leon
like a hate it's like a It's like a Kendrick.
00:20:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's like a hate album about how he's like a sex addict.
00:20:42
unc leon
It's a Kendrick hate album.
00:20:44
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:20:45
unc leon
Look at him, dude.
00:20:45
billfrankenstein
You know?
00:20:46
unc leon
He needs...
00:20:47
Steve-O
learning way too much about David Harvin.
00:20:48
unc leon
Daddy needs to eat.
00:20:49
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:20:49
billfrankenstein
I know, right?
00:20:50
unc leon
You know? Daddy needs to eat.
00:20:52
billfrankenstein
Pump breaks.
00:20:53
BeyBlade
it's like It's like a jagged little pill scenario, but it's an entire album.
00:20:58
billfrankenstein
Who? I mean, I guess...
00:20:59
Steve-O
And that's ah that's a callback to Evan.
00:21:01
BeyBlade
Well, I mean, it's the most.
00:21:02
billfrankenstein
From what I've heard, the bullying thing has been has been denied, too.
00:21:06
BeyBlade
Yeah, I think that was well, way overblown.
00:21:06
billfrankenstein
right.
00:21:07
unc leon
Yeah.
00:21:09
BeyBlade
It just didn't make sense either. Like, unless he just became a maniac overnight, like, that just would have made no sense to me.
00:21:11
billfrankenstein
yeah
00:21:17
Steve-O
Isn't that what happened to him? Who is that from ah the lead actor from the Goldbergs and is on? um
00:21:24
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah.
00:21:24
billfrankenstein
Jeff Garland.
00:21:24
unc leon
The Philly boy?
00:21:25
billfrankenstein
From what I've heard, he was always a dick.
00:21:25
Steve-O
Jeff Garland, didn't that kind of happen to Jeff Garland?
00:21:29
billfrankenstein
It was just like Larry David kind of amused him and humored him because he was friends.
00:21:36
BeyBlade
Yeah, but like when you're acting with children...
00:21:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah, can't do that.
00:21:42
BeyBlade
Yeah, it doesn't... I think his like he just his behavior never really changed on site like on set. and They're like, yeah, that works with Larry David, who's like older than you. But yeah, it's not really going to work out the way you you think it's going to
00:21:58
billfrankenstein
Yeah, but ah outside of the those few negatives I pointed out, I am enjoying the season. I
00:22:04
unc leon
Yeah, I i really i really like it a lot
00:22:04
BeyBlade
Yeah, overall, i'm ah um um I'm digging it real hard.
00:22:07
billfrankenstein
i thought the first episode was a bit slow, but then the beginning of the second episode sort of got everything, got ball rolling.
00:22:14
BeyBlade
See, I dug the first episode primarily because I really liked the process that they had, right, with the the digs or the the crawls and all that.
00:22:15
billfrankenstein
Really? Really?
00:22:25
billfrankenstein
Okay, okay, the little tunnels, the tunnels and such.
00:22:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, like the whole process and setup.
00:22:30
billfrankenstein
It was a lot of setup. It was a lot of setup.
00:22:31
BeyBlade
i But like it was fascinating to me.
00:22:32
billfrankenstein
Okay, Google, please stop. I'm so sorry.
00:22:33
BeyBlade
like It was kind of to a point where i was like, I wish I just saw like a whole season of them doing that.
00:22:35
billfrankenstein
opening each end they can be used for things like roads trains
00:22:39
BeyBlade
The Crawls.
00:22:39
Steve-O
Hold on. thursday
00:22:39
BeyBlade
That was it.
00:22:39
billfrankenstein
<unk> and even to carry waterage
00:22:40
BeyBlade
Yeah, The Crawls.
00:22:41
Steve-O
There's an English lady speaking.
00:22:42
BeyBlade
Which TV is on right now?
00:22:43
Steve-O
LAUGHTER
00:22:43
billfrankenstein
some are also built as utility okay google please stop
00:22:49
unc leon
Chris, if you love her so much, why don't you marry her?
00:22:50
billfrankenstein
like i I'm planning on it, but now that she knows I punched dogs because Steve put it the lager of them, I'm not going marry her.
00:22:51
unc leon
don't you marry her?
00:22:57
Steve-O
You monster.
00:22:59
billfrankenstein
Anyway, I'm sorry, Devin.
00:23:03
BeyBlade
No, it's it's fine.
00:23:03
billfrankenstein
I didn't mean to interrupt you there.
00:23:04
BeyBlade
I don't even know. Oh, no, no. I was just saying, like, um in that first episode, the whole plan thing out that they have, I was like, wow, that's ah kind of cool.
00:23:15
BeyBlade
And I would have watched a few episodes of just them doing that.
00:23:18
Steve-O
Mm.
00:23:18
BeyBlade
ah It kind of...
00:23:19
billfrankenstein
Really? Really?
00:23:20
BeyBlade
Yeah, you know what it was? i get really into... um It was a competency porn, right? It was just like...
00:23:27
billfrankenstein
Yeah, okay, so...
00:23:28
BeyBlade
They were like just talking about how they've done it already. It's like their 17th crawl or something like that.
00:23:34
billfrankenstein
i'd say I'd say the moment they opened up the secret hatch in the wall, um that was cool to see how far they've come, you know, as as a group.
00:23:40
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:23:43
billfrankenstein
That was neat. I just think, like, the first episode of the season four was was fucking banger, and it really set the show on fire.
00:23:49
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah. And and what... And I will say what I've said at this point, like with Stranger Things, like I don't even know if it matters.
00:23:54
Steve-O
Yeah. Right.
00:23:59
BeyBlade
Like it does matter. But like good, bad, I think I'm going to be pretty indifferent because like at this point, I'm going to finish it. You know, like I'm going to watch it.
00:24:08
billfrankenstein
Of course.
00:24:09
BeyBlade
I'm going to finish it.
00:24:09
billfrankenstein
um Yeah, no. I'm not out. I'm just, you know, it was a little slow.
00:24:11
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, i'm not saying you are, but it's just like it could be, you know, it's just I'm just going to continue watching and I'm just kind of on.
00:24:13
billfrankenstein
I
00:24:20
BeyBlade
I'm along for the ride. So like whatever, right Just do what you want to do.
00:24:27
billfrankenstein
i like the Demi Gorgon attack. I thought that was cool. um I like the whole hiding from it sequence was neat.
00:24:32
BeyBlade
yeah
00:24:35
billfrankenstein
Like, it's just really well constructed. And the only ah knock I do, another knock. um yeah I do think um Henry's mind prison is a is a little convoluted.
00:24:49
billfrankenstein
It's a little convoluted.
00:24:51
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:24:51
billfrankenstein
Just I kind of got that.
00:24:52
BeyBlade
Well, they think, I think the rumor in in the week since ah it's kind of come out, I think they're, the rumor is that they're hinting towards that Henry's kind of like secretly, i don't want say a good guy.
00:25:04
BeyBlade
Right. But he's, he's like fighting his own, like there's a bigger bad behind him.
00:25:10
billfrankenstein
Mind flare. It's the mind flare, right?
00:25:11
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:12
billfrankenstein
It's gotta to be pulling the strings.
00:25:13
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:25:16
billfrankenstein
I, I, I feel like Henry is, uh, you're, he's going to have that about face, you know, turn and probably sacrifice himself.
00:25:16
BeyBlade
yeah
00:25:16
unc leon
Yeah.
00:25:25
unc leon
Yeah, because why didn't he just fucking kill everybody there? Like when you know, in the last episode.
00:25:30
billfrankenstein
Exactly. He killed the military cause they suck. Right. Right.
00:25:36
unc leon
Yeah.
00:25:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:25:37
unc leon
Because they were pissing on his wall.
00:25:40
billfrankenstein
They're pissing all over his fucking wall, man. What would you do, Steve?
00:25:45
Steve-O
That's his wall.
00:25:45
billfrankenstein
You'd kill them all.
00:25:46
Steve-O
That's his wall, dude.
00:25:48
billfrankenstein
I want have things in my wall. Can't I piss all over it?
00:25:55
BeyBlade
Thanks, Chris. I wasn't sure.
00:25:59
billfrankenstein
like the way he looks now, too. I like he looks even more viney.
00:26:04
BeyBlade
Oh yeah, he has like his arm his his war armor on.
00:26:05
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:26:07
billfrankenstein
That's cool.
00:26:09
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:26:09
billfrankenstein
um i ah I love the little turnabout for Will. That was cool. um
00:26:14
unc leon
That was awesome.
00:26:14
BeyBlade
Yes.
00:26:15
billfrankenstein
That was really me. and um
00:26:17
BeyBlade
Especially after being fucking useless for like three or four seasons.
00:26:19
billfrankenstein
yeah
00:26:20
unc leon
four seasons.
00:26:22
BeyBlade
Yeah, like just completely and utterly useless.
00:26:28
billfrankenstein
and that's I like and some of the new characters as well. We we talked about Dipship Derek.
00:26:33
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:26:34
billfrankenstein
um There really haven't been build up that much yet you know like outside of dipship derrick and holly but we do have like a cadre of kids that are being targeted so also ah it's uh it's giving me it's you know we got some clock ah imagery going on a big circular room 12 children so what's that about um also wrinkle in time so maybe we we're gonna this is like a time travel thing like what is that gonna be a thing
00:26:57
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:27:04
BeyBlade
Oh, man. I hope not. I hope not, man. Nothing. I'm never more of a hard out than when time travel gets involved.
00:27:14
billfrankenstein
I guess, though, it is... It's very 80s, you know?
00:27:17
BeyBlade
Actually, I want to walk that back little bit. it's It just needs to be done very specifically. Otherwise, ah it I'm always teetering when people are like, oh, yeah, just I just love it when we just give ourselves blank canvas to write ourselves out of any corners that we might have.
00:27:34
billfrankenstein
i think it's going to be a more about, like, memory, maybe? Like, going back in memories? That's... what I hope, cause that's what it seems like they're building out, but the whole mine prison or whatever the hell that is.
00:27:47
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:27:48
billfrankenstein
Um, yeah, it's, uh, it's doing some little, little more complicated things with the plot. Uh, but you know what? You got yourself, Steve and Robin, they're going at it and and talking.
00:28:03
billfrankenstein
Those guys are great. I mean, you listen to them talk forever, right?
00:28:06
BeyBlade
Does anyone know if the the the Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, e is that like one episode or is that like going to be another batch?
00:28:17
billfrankenstein
I think it was three, isn't it? And then the the the final episode is just the next one released.
00:28:22
BeyBlade
It's like the movie or something, right?
00:28:24
billfrankenstein
Yeah. That's what I thought, at least.
00:28:25
BeyBlade
Yeah, I don't know. yeah That's what I thought, but then i don't know.
00:28:27
billfrankenstein
Maybe not. Maybe not. Could be ah want two more big episodes.
00:28:29
BeyBlade
People kept
00:28:32
BeyBlade
Yeah, people kept implying things, and i was like, I don't know. Does does anyone know?
00:28:35
billfrankenstein
What are they implying? Sex?
00:28:36
BeyBlade
Who knows?
00:28:37
billfrankenstein
Back then is going to bang somebody? Is that what they're implying? Yeah.
00:28:40
BeyBlade
No, no, they're just implying that like it's just another episode. like another Just one big one again. Because you know you're you're thinking about, at this point, the real question is is how much time we got left.
00:28:54
BeyBlade
you know how How many hours do I have?
00:28:54
billfrankenstein
Right.
00:28:56
BeyBlade
we got two, three, or do we have like six right
00:29:02
billfrankenstein
and now And now that Will has turned, you kind of have like a new big power source too. So, you know, we got, they got a weapon. So things are going to start moving now.
00:29:11
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:29:12
billfrankenstein
Right.
00:29:12
BeyBlade
And I guess all those kids, right? All the kids are implied to have some sort of sensitivity, I guess.
00:29:20
billfrankenstein
Even dipshit Derek.
00:29:21
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:22
unc leon
Yeah.
00:29:22
BeyBlade
Yeah. yeah i would
00:29:25
billfrankenstein
and maybe the strongest of of them all dain
00:29:32
BeyBlade
That would ruin the show for me.
00:29:34
billfrankenstein
why would it ruin with the show he's the magneto this would be cool
00:29:34
Steve-O
Would be the Magneto.
00:29:34
BeyBlade
I'd be like...
00:29:35
Steve-O
Would be the Magneto, Devin.
00:29:35
BeyBlade
and ah
00:29:41
BeyBlade
right, so it's not that bad, but I just, I i do, I don't know, me it was just like, it's too much too soon, right?
00:29:43
Steve-O
Really cool.
00:29:48
BeyBlade
I don't mind that the character exists, but it was like, he was getting way too much screen time, and I was like, okay.
00:29:56
billfrankenstein
What about, what do you how do you guys feel about Mr. mr Wheeler stepping up to bat with his golf club?
00:30:01
unc leon
I thought you were going to say Mr. What's It.
00:30:04
billfrankenstein
No, no, no, no, no.
00:30:05
Steve-O
Yes.
00:30:06
billfrankenstein
That guy, I'm cool with him. But I wasn't cool with a the father, Mr. Wheeler. Then he he he fought off the Demogorgon at the golf club.
00:30:16
BeyBlade
Yeah. Well, they're both parents, right?
00:30:17
unc leon
Yeah, but he's still he's still he's still a useless piece of shit, though.
00:30:20
billfrankenstein
Of course. I mean, but he got he gave them enough time.
00:30:22
unc leon
I don't know.
00:30:25
billfrankenstein
You know? But, unfortunately, the Demogorgon cornered them in the kitchen. and then Joyce... Not Joyce.
00:30:32
unc leon
yeah yeah i guess billy's milf
00:30:33
billfrankenstein
What's their mother's name? so some This is Wheeler. Billy's mouth.
00:30:39
BeyBlade
Yeah. yeah
00:30:41
billfrankenstein
It was hitting him with a fucking wine bottle.
00:30:44
BeyBlade
yeah
00:30:45
billfrankenstein
Woo! Woo!
00:30:45
unc leon
yeah wild super drunk
00:30:48
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:30:50
BeyBlade
I forgot about that. She was hammered when this happened.
00:30:54
billfrankenstein
Going to town on the Demogorgon.
00:30:56
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:30:56
billfrankenstein
Super bloody, super gory.
00:30:59
BeyBlade
You know, part of me was kind of like, i during that scene too specifically, I was like, man, I kind of want to go back and rewatch the episode in season one where the Gorgon shows up, and but it's a real, you know, it's it's like a live action suit.
00:31:14
billfrankenstein
Oh, like a practical suit?
00:31:15
BeyBlade
And I was like, man, I wonder, like, Yeah, yeah, it was a practical suit.
00:31:18
billfrankenstein
Was it really?
00:31:19
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, in the first season, yeah.
00:31:22
billfrankenstein
Wow.
00:31:22
BeyBlade
And I understand, like, you want it to do more things. and it's At some point, it is going to become, like, impossible. But honestly, that's what makes Vecna look so good, is because it's primarily live, it's primarily practical, and then...
00:31:36
billfrankenstein
He's got some wiggling going on from little CGI wiggling.
00:31:38
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, and they just add a little bit, and I, you know, I'm not saying everything's equal, but... ah To me, that's the that's the way to do it, dude.
00:31:47
billfrankenstein
Would you want a bunch of stuff wiggling all over you all the time, Devin?
00:31:52
BeyBlade
Yes.
00:31:53
billfrankenstein
Okay.
00:31:53
BeyBlade
I do.
00:31:55
billfrankenstein
All right. I wasn't expecting a yes.
00:31:56
BeyBlade
Rising.
00:31:57
Steve-O
Put some worms on them.
00:31:57
BeyBlade
Yes. Yes, obviously, you weirdo.
00:31:59
billfrankenstein
But yeah.
00:32:03
Steve-O
Do you want those things not wiggling, Chris?
00:32:04
billfrankenstein
yeah
00:32:04
BeyBlade
thing Yeah, come on.
00:32:06
billfrankenstein
I mean, yeah.
00:32:08
Steve-O
If things are supposed to wiggle and they're not wiggling.
00:32:08
billfrankenstein
yeah Oh, It's like, what the fuck? Shit's broke? Mind Flayer fucked me over. Anyway, we didn't even talk about ah Sarah Connor's big ass head, which you guys kept bringing up over and over again.
00:32:22
BeyBlade
Oh, we did. we We talked about it. You didn't get a talk about it.
00:32:26
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:32:26
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:32:27
billfrankenstein
That's true.
00:32:28
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:32:28
billfrankenstein
She got a big-ass head, guys. going to also second that. But i you guys are you're leaving out Hopper. You're leaving out Steve. Like, these guys all have big heads.
00:32:37
BeyBlade
Yeah, but I think, like, their bodies are a little bit bigger.
00:32:40
billfrankenstein
Are you kidding me? Look at Steve's body. He's got a giant head, man. Are you fucking nuts? Look at his head.
00:32:46
Steve-O
But but they're they're bigger in general.
00:32:46
BeyBlade
But Hopper, I mean, Hopper's just... Yeah, but I feel like, the yeah, it's she's she's a she has a small frame and her head's just as big as David Harper's.
00:32:49
billfrankenstein
I guess. Maybe. Maybe.
00:32:58
billfrankenstein
It's her haircut, too.
00:33:00
BeyBlade
Yeah, no, it's not doing this
00:33:00
billfrankenstein
It's not doing any favors.
00:33:01
unc leon
Yeah,
00:33:01
Steve-O
They have one shot where like it is like it is basically her head next to a normal head.
00:33:08
BeyBlade
it.
00:33:09
Steve-O
And it's like three of three of that normal head could fit inside that head.
00:33:09
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:33:13
billfrankenstein
Well, Steve, your head would look big, too, if you had Kramer's haircut, right?
00:33:13
BeyBlade
ah
00:33:16
BeyBlade
yeah
00:33:16
Steve-O
Oh, no, I'm i'm not disagreeing. I would say i would say our our podcast is primarily big heads.
00:33:24
billfrankenstein
Yeah. One guy out.
00:33:24
BeyBlade
Mostly. Yeah.
00:33:26
unc leon
and ivy i'm yeah I'm a huge melon head.
00:33:28
BeyBlade
Yeah. I think it's three big heads and one normal head.
00:33:31
billfrankenstein
Yeah, no.
00:33:32
Steve-O
a
00:33:34
billfrankenstein
I think amongst us all, there's one normal head.
00:33:34
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:38
billfrankenstein
Yours head is so small that our giant heads would make up one normal head all together.
00:33:41
Steve-O
Devin, Devin.
00:33:43
BeyBlade
Yeah. yeah
00:33:44
Steve-O
We are all going to go and get a caricature of ourselves.
00:33:48
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:33:49
Steve-O
And I guarantee you, John, Chris, and i are going to have those giant hot air balloon heads in the drawing.
00:33:54
BeyBlade
Your heads, yeah, your heads could literally lift that fucking house.
00:33:55
unc leon
Devon's going to look like a Goomba.
00:33:56
Steve-O
if
00:33:58
BeyBlade
in Yeah.
00:33:58
unc leon
He's going to look like a Goomba from the Mario movie.
00:33:58
Steve-O
know what
00:34:03
Steve-O
ah
00:34:04
unc leon
yeah
00:34:04
BeyBlade
Your head would lift the house and up and, you know, my head's normal.
00:34:08
Steve-O
the You like rollerblades, Devin?
00:34:10
BeyBlade
have a normal head.
00:34:10
billfrankenstein
no just like waddling back and forth in the in the photo like there's a little motion lines
00:34:11
Steve-O
I'm going to put you in rollerblades.
00:34:20
BeyBlade
You know, I'll be honest.
00:34:20
Steve-O
That's how you know.
00:34:21
Steve-O
that's how you find out.
00:34:21
BeyBlade
I've always i've always looked at ah those guys on the boardwalk or whatever and be like, I couldn't handle this. I wouldn't be able to handle this. Whatever he shows me.
00:34:32
Steve-O
It's too much.
00:34:33
BeyBlade
it would just ruin It would ruin my day. It would ruin my day at night.
00:34:34
billfrankenstein
yeah Yeah, I've been i've been there. i have one in I have one in my room right now.
00:34:39
BeyBlade
oh you've got I've never gotten one done.
00:34:41
billfrankenstein
It's huge. My head is so big. He actually Charlie Kirk me, too, where my face is real small.
00:34:45
BeyBlade
What?
00:34:45
unc leon
Oh, no.
00:34:46
BeyBlade
What?
00:34:48
unc leon
Stop playing, man. I hate it. i'll play about
00:34:52
billfrankenstein
No, no, no, where his face is really small.
00:34:52
unc leon
the
00:34:54
billfrankenstein
like they made my
00:34:54
BeyBlade
ah
00:34:55
billfrankenstein
He made my face like real small in the center of my head.
00:34:58
BeyBlade
who were Was it just you? Who were you with?
00:35:00
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it was just me. I was i was young. It must have been... 17. picture's like super faded now. I'm looking at it right now.
00:35:06
BeyBlade
Oh, okay.
00:35:07
Steve-O
I've got one of those. I've got one of those when I was little.
00:35:11
BeyBlade
I think I remember seeing Steve's.
00:35:11
Steve-O
Damn. They do you dirty, dude.
00:35:12
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:35:13
Steve-O
They do you dirty. That's hanging up in my hallway, I think.
00:35:16
billfrankenstein
had big ass jowls.
00:35:17
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:35:18
billfrankenstein
Like he gave me big fucking jowls.
00:35:21
BeyBlade
Yeah. I don't know.
00:35:22
billfrankenstein
Which is cool.
00:35:22
BeyBlade
John, can you, could you handle that?
00:35:23
Steve-O
That's going to be good when you're older, Chris.
00:35:25
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:35:25
Steve-O
to be like a bulldog.
00:35:26
BeyBlade
Could you handle you getting like one of those, one of those, yeah.
00:35:30
Steve-O
Like boardwalk caricatures.
00:35:32
unc leon
Yeah, I can handle that.
00:35:33
BeyBlade
I, I couldn't, I don't know.
00:35:33
unc leon
why Why wouldn't I be able to handle that?
00:35:35
BeyBlade
I couldn't.
00:35:36
Steve-O
Because Devin can.
00:35:36
BeyBlade
i I'd be like, yeah, this, it would ruin my night.
00:35:37
Steve-O
Devin can.
00:35:38
unc leon
If it's the four of us, then why not? Yeah, why
00:35:42
billfrankenstein
Devin, you have a humiliation kink.
00:35:42
BeyBlade
No, no, no, no, no.
00:35:42
unc leon
like
00:35:43
BeyBlade
I'm just saying like, you do it, you do it like by yourself.
00:35:44
billfrankenstein
You love it.
00:35:46
BeyBlade
You just sit down or maybe you're with like your, your family.
00:35:51
unc leon
yeah why not
00:35:51
billfrankenstein
did i do it by myself, with the family, with strangers, and with you guys. i am I'll do one right now.
00:35:57
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:35:59
billfrankenstein
Let's go.
00:35:59
Steve-O
What if you got that done, Devin, and it is like a photorealistic drawing of you, but like you notice in it, your tongue is hanging out slightly.
00:36:00
BeyBlade
yeah
00:36:09
Steve-O
And it's like, does my tongue slightly hang out when I'm just like resting?
00:36:13
unc leon
Mm-hmm.
00:36:13
billfrankenstein
That guy's a killer. That guy's a killer.
00:36:16
BeyBlade
yeah
00:36:17
billfrankenstein
who That is killer.
00:36:18
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:36:19
Steve-O
That would haunt you. That would haunt you for life.
00:36:21
BeyBlade
yeah I'm telling you right now, it would the normal one would haunt me.
00:36:25
billfrankenstein
or like, it's you like you're wearing a nice suit, but you're, you're the right, the button near your belly buttons open and you can see like your belly button, your hairy ass belly button boogantoo shirt.
00:36:32
BeyBlade
Yeah. Like, like, dude, a normal photo of me sets me off, let alone like one that's designed to just pick on all the things you might be self-conscious about.
00:36:42
Steve-O
I'm not going to lie. They would always draw me with the Obama ears in like the caricatures. And that like legit stuck with me. like Legit, I think that's why I grew the long hair.
00:36:54
Steve-O
I was like i need to I need to cover these monsters up.
00:36:54
billfrankenstein
To get away from the ears.
00:36:55
unc leon
Mm-hmm.
00:36:58
Steve-O
I'm not Ross Perot.
00:36:59
BeyBlade
These.
00:37:01
billfrankenstein
None against Ross Pro.
00:37:04
Steve-O
No, nothing.
00:37:05
billfrankenstein
Can I finish?
00:37:06
Steve-O
Can I finish?
00:37:07
billfrankenstein
Can I finish? Anywho, ah Stranger Things Season 5 off to a good start. Um...
00:37:15
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, dude, I'm hard in.
00:37:15
billfrankenstein
i'm I'm excited for Christmas, not for the holiday, but for my stranger things.
00:37:25
billfrankenstein
That's it. I'm in.
00:37:28
BeyBlade
What else am I going to do?
00:37:28
Steve-O
Hard end on Christmas.
00:37:30
BeyBlade
See my friends and family?
00:37:32
billfrankenstein
Yes.
00:37:32
BeyBlade
No, I'm going to watch Stranger Things.
00:37:34
Steve-O
Those cowards.
00:37:36
billfrankenstein
Stupid. All right.
00:37:39
BeyBlade
Same thing with ah the New Year's Eve.
00:37:41
Steve-O
yeah i mean we've we've We've got a whole whole slew of things happening.
00:37:44
BeyBlade
going to be in theaters.
00:37:46
Steve-O
End of year events are
00:37:47
BeyBlade
Yeah.
Game Awards Reactions and Critiques
00:37:48
Steve-O
occurring.
00:37:48
Steve-O
We had the Game Awards this week.
00:37:56
unc leon
Steve, we, couple times we had we had Chris on the, on the ropes there. Cause we, we, we, we somewhat just a little bit of glimmer of hope that we put a little bit glimmer of hope that fucking Half-Life three might be announced.
00:38:03
BeyBlade
Oh my God. Yeah.
00:38:14
Steve-O
Oh.
00:38:16
unc leon
And then there was the, there was the forest.
00:38:16
billfrankenstein
I've been a here in
00:38:18
unc leon
There was the forest three trailer.
00:38:21
BeyBlade
Oh my God.
00:38:21
unc leon
where a Where it kind of looked like ah gravity gun the whole time.
00:38:22
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:38:26
unc leon
And then when they flashed the logo at the end, it just did three first.
00:38:27
billfrankenstein
It looks so bad.
00:38:31
unc leon
And we were like, oh my god, it is! but it wasn't.
00:38:35
BeyBlade
We saw this Chris lounging on the couch and his eyes bugged out just enough that we.
00:38:35
unc leon
we We had them.
00:38:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah, for like a half a second, I saw that three and all those rumors I've been hearing about, they were swirling around in my head and I was disappointed.
00:38:49
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:38:52
BeyBlade
yeah
00:38:53
Steve-O
but Wait, wait, wait.
00:38:53
billfrankenstein
But not that much.
00:38:54
Steve-O
What was it for again?
00:38:54
BeyBlade
what it was The Force 3.
00:38:57
unc leon
a forest?
00:38:57
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:38:57
unc leon
A forest 3.
00:38:58
Steve-O
right.
00:38:59
BeyBlade
yeah
00:38:59
Steve-O
The fourth three.
00:39:00
BeyBlade
Like, if you watch that trailer with the idea that like, I'm going to be thinking of Half-Life the entire time.
00:39:04
unc leon
It might be Half-Life.
00:39:07
Steve-O
I could see that.
00:39:07
BeyBlade
It's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:08
unc leon
who
00:39:09
Steve-O
I could definitely see that.
00:39:09
billfrankenstein
You know, I wasn't i wasn't ah disappointed by the the game trailers this year, though. Like...
00:39:15
BeyBlade
No, no.
00:39:16
BeyBlade
I mean, it was some point.
00:39:16
Steve-O
I'm going to tell you what.
00:39:17
Steve-O
If you watch that and you're looking for anything that isn't sci-fi, ah ancient Asian action game, or nonsense bullshit gotcha slop, you're going to be severely disappointed.
00:39:32
BeyBlade
ah yeah we I mean, obviously, you knew you knew every one of those gotcha slops.
00:39:33
Steve-O
and
00:39:33
billfrankenstein
Well...
00:39:35
Steve-O
You know what, dude? ah Devin, I hate to admit it. I think I'm out on it. There's too many of them now. I can't keep up.
00:39:40
BeyBlade
Thank God. Good.
00:39:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah, there's a shitload of them.
00:39:42
Steve-O
When there was like three or four, I could, but...
00:39:42
BeyBlade
Good, yeah.
00:39:45
BeyBlade
There was like a whole music video with one, and I was like, what?
00:39:47
Steve-O
There was.
00:39:48
billfrankenstein
Listen, i'm I'm happy anytime i get a Resident Evil trailer or a fucking Control sequel trailer.
00:39:49
BeyBlade
What is happening?
00:39:53
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:39:54
Steve-O
Dude, honestly, those were the bangers, and we're going to definitely be talking about the bangers on this episode because capcom the Capcom knows how to hit a home run and walk off looking good.
00:39:58
billfrankenstein
I mean, that was good. And he
00:40:04
billfrankenstein
and you got Badger Born, too.
00:40:05
unc leon
Yeah.
00:40:07
Steve-O
That's your...
00:40:07
BeyBlade
Yeah. Badger porn looks sick,
00:40:09
unc leon
Yeah, well, I looked sick.
00:40:09
billfrankenstein
so I want to play that. That looks like fun.
00:40:13
BeyBlade
dude. I was hard in on badger porn.
00:40:17
billfrankenstein
i mean, it kind of tuned out for the most of those gotcha ones, but yes, I am
00:40:21
Steve-O
You're talking about Bradley the Badger, correct? This is the...
00:40:23
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:24
unc leon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:24
BeyBlade
Yeah, sorry.
00:40:25
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:40:25
billfrankenstein
I am.
00:40:25
BeyBlade
you're Whatever. it's called But, yeah, I posted a few in its own little section. The notable ones. I didn't post every one.
00:40:34
Steve-O
Hmm.
00:40:35
BeyBlade
I do always have to kind of remind myself like midway through these shows. I'm like, oh, this is like for game awards. So sometimes they' like, wo I need a new trailer.
00:40:47
BeyBlade
And I'm like, that's right. No, they're going like, it's not really the time and place for it, even though sometimes it is.
00:40:53
Steve-O
Oh, I need badmouth one of the trailers.
00:40:54
BeyBlade
Ooh, can I guess?
00:40:58
Steve-O
And that is... Yeah, can you guess?
00:41:00
unc leon
Divinity.
00:41:01
BeyBlade
Is it Highgarden or Highguard?
00:41:01
unc leon
Divinity.
00:41:03
Steve-O
No, but that is definitely one that was like, what why?
00:41:05
unc leon
Oh, we're trashing that.
00:41:06
billfrankenstein
Pipeguard.
00:41:06
Steve-O
Why are we ending this?
00:41:06
unc leon
We're trashing the shit out that.
00:41:07
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:41:07
Steve-O
Why we ending on this? What
00:41:09
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:41:09
billfrankenstein
I played it. It's fantastic.
00:41:10
BeyBlade
Okay.
00:41:11
Steve-O
yeah
00:41:11
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:41:12
Steve-O
what was... ah Wait, John, what did you call it? You called it ah the sequel to Concord, I think?
00:41:17
unc leon
I think that's what Devin said.
00:41:18
Steve-O
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:41:18
unc leon
He's like Concord.
00:41:20
BeyBlade
Concord vibes for sure.
00:41:23
Steve-O
It'll be out for only a week and a half.
00:41:24
BeyBlade
But what was the one that you want to trash?
00:41:27
Steve-O
The one I want to trash is Lords of the Fallen 2. ah
00:41:30
BeyBlade
Ooh.
00:41:30
unc leon
Oh, dude, I've been trashing that game for months now, Steve.
00:41:32
BeyBlade
Why is that?
00:41:33
Steve-O
I understand that, but I want to trash it specifically because they took the song from the Pet Shop Boys, the Interstellar trailer from last year, and it it I was like, you like unoriginal pigs.
00:41:33
BeyBlade
Why is that?
00:41:38
unc leon
Oh, they took the song from it. Yeah, they took the pet shop.
00:41:40
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah.
00:41:41
unc leon
Yeah, I pointed that out.
00:41:41
billfrankenstein
you're Yeah, that's right.
00:41:44
unc leon
It's pretty fun.
00:41:49
unc leon
Yeah, it's pretty fucking gross.
00:41:51
BeyBlade
Jesus.
00:41:52
Steve-O
I
00:41:52
unc leon
Yeah, I guess it was a cover of of that song, but still, like, you can't
00:41:55
BeyBlade
Wait, so you're just mad at the music choice?
00:41:58
Steve-O
I'm mad at the music choice because it was like, imagine if Mad World ah when they did a, what game was that again? um Yeah, Gears of War.
00:42:05
billfrankenstein
Gears of War.
00:42:05
BeyBlade
of War?
00:42:06
unc leon
yearss
00:42:07
Steve-O
If they did that, and then the year after that, it was like ah some some other game was decided to do Mad World too. You'd be like, what the hell?
00:42:17
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it's ripping off vibes.
00:42:17
Steve-O
What the hell? What the hell?
00:42:20
BeyBlade
Yeah, all
00:42:21
billfrankenstein
Sucks.
00:42:22
unc leon
Yeah, this is, when was this?
00:42:22
billfrankenstein
It ain't fun.
00:42:24
unc leon
This was a couple months ago, October, but the Lords of the Fallen official Twitter account posted like their second anniversary update for a game that, like, not not a lot of people are really playing, but they were, like, two years of carrying the torch for Soul Slugs, and it's like, really, dude?
00:42:41
BeyBlade
right. Oh, yay.
00:42:42
Steve-O
no
00:42:45
billfrankenstein
That's not even an impressive thing to say.
00:42:45
unc leon
Like, you're gonna...
00:42:47
Steve-O
The Souls games are doing that.
00:42:47
unc leon
Yeah, I know, and it's like, yeah, I don't think they need the torch carried, first off, and, like, second off, it's like, you can tell, like, they're just fucking standing on the shoulders of other people to try and get ahead.
00:42:49
billfrankenstein
Exactly. It's the first I've heard of it.
00:42:49
Steve-O
Right.
00:43:03
unc leon
get ahead
00:43:04
Steve-O
Right.
00:43:04
unc leon
You know, and it's really fucking... I mean, what this game's been out. What is... Do people play this game?
00:43:12
BeyBlade
I mean, I think it's a fairly well-respected Souls-like.
00:43:12
Steve-O
<unk> Is this for like...
00:43:18
BeyBlade
um But the second one seems like everything's amped up. Like, amped up to, like, fucking 11. eleven
00:43:26
unc leon
Like, good?
00:43:27
BeyBlade
Yeah. Like, I mean, it looks crazy.
00:43:30
Steve-O
for people who have played the like mainline souls games and like Lords of P wait, what's that game called?
00:43:38
BeyBlade
Lies of me?
00:43:38
billfrankenstein
Well, I said, P.
00:43:38
Steve-O
Lies of P lies lies of P like out the wazoo and they just need something else.
00:43:39
unc leon
lysrop be
00:43:39
BeyBlade
Yeah. like like i would I would argue that i would argue that like if there's your FromSoft, under that is Lies of P, and then under that is Lords of the Fallen.
00:43:51
BeyBlade
And then maybe under that's like Mortal Shell, and then everything else.
00:43:55
Steve-O
Was.
00:43:55
billfrankenstein
Well, wait, wait, no, there's six feet of crap, and then there's mortal shell.
00:43:59
BeyBlade
Okay. I didn't play it, so I can't.
00:44:02
unc leon
But it's like, the the term souls-like is kind of like a weird, like to market your game as like copy of another game is like kind of weird to me you know yeah but it's not yeah know no but i i agree but it's not like it's not like team cherry puts out tweets that say carrying the torch for 2d metroidvanias you know they they present it they present it as its own product which is which is metroidvania but metroidvania is also kind of like ah a loose genre term you know it's not really
00:44:11
BeyBlade
Yeah, but that's, I mean, that's Metrovania, right?
00:44:11
Steve-O
That's weird. Yeah.
00:44:15
BeyBlade
Metro is literally in the...
00:44:23
BeyBlade
Yeah, I mean, that's that's just a bad look.
00:44:24
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:44:28
BeyBlade
Yeah, and...
00:44:35
Steve-O
ah ah we're not getting like a new Castlevania. We, I mean, we just got a Metroid, but like, it's so rare that those mainline games do come out, but like from software is still pumping them out hard.
00:44:47
Steve-O
Like,
00:44:47
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:44:47
BeyBlade
Yeah, like it's not like from software is stopped.
00:44:47
unc leon
Yeah, it's like...
00:44:48
billfrankenstein
like boy they They had the torch the whole time, you dummies.
00:44:51
Steve-O
like night rain came out this year.
00:44:52
unc leon
Yeah, they still got it.
00:44:53
Steve-O
Like,
00:44:54
billfrankenstein
They're running with it ahead of you.
00:44:57
unc leon
They still got... I mean, it's just like... It just looks... It's tacky, you know? It's tacky.
00:45:03
billfrankenstein
It is tacky, yes.
00:45:04
BeyBlade
No, it's a tacky comment.
00:45:04
unc leon
it's It's tacky to say shit like that, I think.
00:45:05
billfrankenstein
That is.
00:45:06
Steve-O
I think they have to do that because it's like they they know who they are they're selling to.
00:45:07
unc leon
No.
00:45:13
Steve-O
So they have to be like, this is a Souls game, guys.
00:45:14
unc leon
I mean, it seems like
00:45:15
Steve-O
Come on. You're hardcore, right?
00:45:16
unc leon
It seems like they these guys were getting to shit on.
00:45:17
billfrankenstein
Yep. You guys like this dumb shit, right?
00:45:18
unc leon
like i don't know
00:45:20
Steve-O
It's hard as shit.
00:45:20
unc leon
i don't know if i I don't know if they put that tweet out like knowing it was somewhat rage bait, but like you know obviously obviously the FromSoft community fucking cackled at that thing.
00:45:21
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:45:26
billfrankenstein
Eat your shit, piggies. I hope you like this new Souls-like.
00:45:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:45:35
unc leon
and you know It's all over.
00:45:35
billfrankenstein
I did.
00:45:37
unc leon
Yeah, everybody was. But it's it' it's just like it's just stupid. you know
00:45:42
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:45:43
unc leon
Carrying the torch, I giggled.
00:45:44
billfrankenstein
yeah I got FromSoft games still need to play.
00:45:45
unc leon
Posted by somebody.
00:45:47
BeyBlade
from Yeah, FromSoft literally goes like to a year between for releases. Oh, yeah.
00:45:47
billfrankenstein
You want me to go?
00:45:53
unc leon
Yeah.
00:45:53
BeyBlade
Okay, guys.
00:45:54
Steve-O
I'm like, come on.
00:45:55
unc leon
Especially if you want to, like, it's presented like a serious game. It's not like, it's not like a, like a D D graphic, like fucking dark souls remake.
00:46:01
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:46:08
unc leon
You know, it's like, it's an actual game.
00:46:09
billfrankenstein
Right.
00:46:10
Steve-O
I'd be way more excited if they did that, if they did like a D res Dark Souls or like I remember there being like a fan made Bloodborne cart, which I thought was fun.
00:46:12
billfrankenstein
I know.
00:46:14
unc leon
Yeah.
00:46:20
Steve-O
That
00:46:21
billfrankenstein
Make it look like Castlevania 64.
00:46:23
Steve-O
that would actually be awesome or just like a Castlevania game like.
00:46:25
billfrankenstein
I know.
00:46:26
unc leon
yeah because ah like another Another example is um
00:46:27
billfrankenstein
Well, okay. Hold on. No, we're not getting that.
00:46:31
unc leon
did Bloodstained just like put copyright Castlevania on its marketing stuff? I don't think so. you know And as much as Gang of Dragons is basically a spiritual successor to Yakuza, they're not going to put Yakuza-like on their marketing material.
00:46:38
Steve-O
No, no.
00:46:49
unc leon
You know you just get you just get it You just understand what it is and
00:46:52
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:46:54
unc leon
And that's that's enough. You don't have to fucking wear a t-shirt that says, you know, we made a game that's like another game.
00:47:01
billfrankenstein
and Even that Yakuza spinoff or ripoff or whatever that game is, they got a big-ass guy to be in it.
00:47:01
unc leon
Like, it's kind of stupid
00:47:04
BeyBlade
Well, you don't have to just because even it's so... Yeah.
00:47:08
unc leon
of stupid.
00:47:09
billfrankenstein
So I think that's their thing.
00:47:11
unc leon
they responded saying that it was Rage Bait that devs did.
00:47:16
BeyBlade
Okay.
00:47:16
billfrankenstein
Oh, sure.
00:47:17
BeyBlade
um Well, I mean, because I was just going to say, like, even like just physically, like you just look at the game and you can tell it's a Souls-like, right?
00:47:17
unc leon
Which is...
00:47:25
billfrankenstein
Yeah, of course.
00:47:26
BeyBlade
Like, it's just a very strong... i mean, that being said, everything taken out of it, it looks cool. Like, it looks good. It looks like a good game.
00:47:37
BeyBlade
um
00:47:38
billfrankenstein
Tacky.
00:47:39
BeyBlade
But, yeah, tacky marketing for sure. Whatever, dude.
00:47:43
billfrankenstein
um But yeah, we got we got some good ones. And I was happy with the good ones.
00:47:46
BeyBlade
No, man. then
00:47:47
billfrankenstein
I was really excited about the good ones.
00:47:49
BeyBlade
I, I, yes. It's just unfortunate. Sometimes my brain immediately just thinks of what we didn't get. And then I got to like temper that.
00:47:58
billfrankenstein
I know, but there have been game awards where there was nothing.
00:48:00
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:48:00
billfrankenstein
There was nothing.
00:48:01
BeyBlade
Well, also I think last year was really good. I think this year was really good.
00:48:03
unc leon
Last year just way better.
00:48:04
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:48:05
unc leon
i mean, just on terms of presentation, I think last year was just way better.
00:48:09
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:48:09
Steve-O
on a way higher note.
00:48:10
unc leon
Yeah, it's not like...
00:48:11
BeyBlade
Oh, the one that you stormed out of that one.
00:48:13
unc leon
Yeah, that I had to watch and in the car.
00:48:14
BeyBlade
Don't jump. and
00:48:16
unc leon
No, but like... um Dude, you guys saw you guys saw Owen towards the end of the night.
00:48:21
BeyBlade
who
00:48:22
Steve-O
Yeah, he was ready.
00:48:22
unc leon
You guys would have had deal with that shit during...
00:48:23
Steve-O
He was done. he was done.
00:48:24
unc leon
no I mean, even the when they came over the other day.
00:48:28
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:28
Steve-O
Oh.
00:48:28
unc leon
he was he had a fucking meltdown because he wanted to hang out with the boys.
00:48:29
BeyBlade
he was
00:48:32
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
00:48:32
unc leon
And he had to go to bed.
00:48:32
BeyBlade
I mean, I'll be honest.
00:48:33
unc leon
don't
00:48:34
BeyBlade
Maybe you shouldn't let hang out with the boys.
00:48:35
Steve-O
That's fair. the di know the boys The boys were over.
00:48:36
BeyBlade
You should let him hang out with the boys, dude.
00:48:37
unc leon
know, dude. It was a Well, it wasn't a school night, but it was like...
00:48:42
BeyBlade
No, I get it.
00:48:42
unc leon
Dude, he's a fucking...
00:48:42
Steve-O
it was late
00:48:44
BeyBlade
It was late.
00:48:44
unc leon
Yeah, it was late.
00:48:45
BeyBlade
Too late for a child. But, yeah.
00:48:48
unc leon
And he would have stayed up for fucking the high guard? Yeah, right, dude.
00:48:51
BeyBlade
yeah
00:48:52
billfrankenstein
Could have been really pumped about that, John. You don't know.
00:48:54
unc leon
Jesus.
00:48:54
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:48:54
billfrankenstein
you
00:48:56
BeyBlade
Yeah. i do Do we just want to talk about High Guard real quick?
00:48:59
billfrankenstein
No.
00:48:59
BeyBlade
Because.
00:48:59
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I guess.
00:49:00
Steve-O
I don't think there's anything to touch on other than like, this is the game they ended on and it's just literally overwatch free to play nonsense with horses.
00:49:08
unc leon
With horses.
00:49:09
Steve-O
Yes. With horses.
00:49:10
BeyBlade
we Do we think this is going to like completely bomb?
00:49:10
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:49:13
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:49:13
BeyBlade
Like.
00:49:14
unc leon
Yeah, especially because it was overhyped.
00:49:14
BeyBlade
Yeah, man.
00:49:16
unc leon
for or not over i don't want to say overhyped, but it was presented as a...
00:49:19
billfrankenstein
I can't even think of another hero shooter that was more popular than Overwatch.
00:49:23
Steve-O
You know, the thing...
00:49:24
unc leon
I mean, Marvel Rivals?
00:49:25
BeyBlade
I think Marvel's rivals the closest, but...
00:49:25
Steve-O
to Yeah.
00:49:26
unc leon
Yeah, Marvel Rivals.
00:49:26
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I guess that's it.
00:49:27
unc leon
i
00:49:28
billfrankenstein
I guess that's the one.
00:49:28
Steve-O
date They're the ones that like survived, but like i don't think they I don't think there's any other game that should try and like try and take that crown.
00:49:30
unc leon
Valorant.
00:49:36
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's the thing. like It wants that... But it's just weird because they're just like, oh, it's...
00:49:40
unc leon
Carrying the torch for Overwatch likes for two years running.
00:49:41
BeyBlade
you know that yeah Yeah, because they're just like, what's the... They're like, oh, from the makers of this, a brand new... A new breed of shooter.
00:49:51
unc leon
To be honest, it it just infuriates me that they had the gall to fucking mention Apex Legends and fucking Titanfall.
00:49:51
BeyBlade
And I'm like,
00:49:59
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
00:49:59
unc leon
And then they come out with that fucking slop. I don't want to walk i don't want to play that.
00:50:01
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:50:03
Steve-O
No, that's...
00:50:03
unc leon
like that That is the opposite of what fucking Sandfall Interactive did.
00:50:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
00:50:08
unc leon
like It's not like they...
00:50:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, and it's...
00:50:10
unc leon
Like, it's not like Sandfall Interactive tried to take a big ticket money, money, money cash grab game that is popular and and has the free to play model that's, you know, designed from the ground up to generate as much money as possible, as opposed to just making what they want to make, you know, like, granted, I'm, um you know, i'm taking a lot of liberties, like making assumptions here, but.
00:50:16
BeyBlade
Mm-hmm.
00:50:28
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:33
unc leon
Like, that's what if you make a fucking hero shooter Overwatch like nowadays, like you're you're in it for them for the money. The way I see it, you know, it's not really how much of a passion project could it be?
00:50:41
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, you're just... and Because this what's frustrating is because, like, on paper, if this came out midway through the show, i think people would have been excited and happy.
00:50:46
unc leon
You know?
00:50:55
unc leon
Yeah, but they had the Jeff Keighley fucking build up speech and and everything.
00:50:56
BeyBlade
Right.
00:50:59
BeyBlade
Yeah, the build up speech, the last show, because like, listen, a triple A looking game that's coming out in like seven weeks, first time it's announced, like that's it.
00:51:02
billfrankenstein
That was dirty.
00:51:12
BeyBlade
Like, that's great. But like, it just goes to show, man, like placement matters. And like this could, that placement itself could have sank this game.
00:51:22
BeyBlade
Like if this was the opener or somewhere in the middle, I think people would be like, all right, cool. Could be cool.
00:51:29
Steve-O
check it out, yeah.
00:51:30
BeyBlade
Yeah. But like now people are like, they hate this game. And that's crazy to me.
00:51:36
unc leon
yeah now Yeah, now it's bad.
00:51:38
BeyBlade
Like, yeah, now it's bad.
00:51:38
unc leon
Now it looks bad. because's
00:51:40
BeyBlade
And now I'm pissed at it. And now, yeah.
00:51:41
Steve-O
I'm surprised that they didn't make the Divinity trailer their end trailer, considering all the hype.
00:51:47
BeyBlade
i think I think because every...
00:51:47
unc leon
Yeah. that i
00:51:49
BeyBlade
I think you needed to get that out the way early.
00:51:49
unc leon
No, it's because Larian gave that to Keeley for free and fucking Apex dudes paid fucking $10 million dollars or something. They they theyli slid him a fat check to make it the last thing.
00:52:00
BeyBlade
God.
00:52:01
Steve-O
It was like $3 million dollars to get ah trailer on it
00:52:02
BeyBlade
Man, can you imagine if... Like got three... ah i think it's a million dollars for a three-minute trailer.
00:52:08
Steve-O
Oh, that's what I meant.
00:52:09
unc leon
Yeah, allegedly, I mean, this probably isn't really surprising, but they have more viewership than the Super Bowl, but that's probably because Super Bowl is just popular in America, and this is kind of a global thing, but like,
00:52:09
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:09
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:52:20
BeyBlade
Yeah. Man, those numbers are... it' just The eyeballs this thing gets crazy. like And I get it, but ah it's just...
00:52:32
unc leon
Which is why Claire Obscura probably shouldn't have been nominated for those indie games awards, I think, in my in my opinion.
00:52:32
BeyBlade
ah Yeah.
00:52:38
BeyBlade
yeah yeah
00:52:42
unc leon
when they want When they won Best Indie Game in the very beginning, i was like, oh, it's over. Like, they're gonna win everything.
00:52:47
BeyBlade
Yeah, but the budget was so small, Yeah.
00:52:49
Steve-O
10 mil?
00:52:49
unc leon
I know, but and then no, no, no.
00:52:50
BeyBlade
Godzilla minus one
00:52:51
unc leon
It's just like, it's it's more complicated than that, you know? And I'm not i'm not saying Silksong should have Best Indie Game or whatever. ah But like, you know, Another game. i i Personally, I think blueprint Blueprints should have won Best Indie.
00:53:07
unc leon
Just because that's...
00:53:08
Steve-O
I would have liked to see blueprints get something.
00:53:10
unc leon
Or another indie studio get something. An unpublished game.
00:53:15
unc leon
and ah Because... like yeah And then if you look back, there were like three or four games that were showcased at at TGA. Like the... um like That were shown for the first time.
00:53:15
BeyBlade
I would have liked to see...
00:53:26
unc leon
That are published by Kepler Interactive. So it's like...
00:53:29
BeyBlade
Yeah, Kepler's all over the place now.
00:53:30
unc leon
So it's like, dude, come on. Like, get but like these guys, like, it's not like, you know, it's not like the game came out of nowhere, you know?
00:53:39
Steve-O
They definitely should make it a self-publish.
00:53:39
unc leon
Like, men megabox should ah Megabox should have been nominated for Best Indie Game, as well as Best Debut Indie Game, which it was and backed out of, but it should have been nominated for Best Indie Game, I think.
00:53:46
Steve-O
Hmm.
00:53:49
unc leon
You know? I think um Dispatch, probably. Well, actually, that's kind of, that's a slippery slope as well.
00:53:55
BeyBlade
This fact is tricky just because of the of the timing of that one.
00:53:56
unc leon
Yeah. Well, not only that, but like, you know, like ah a lot of the the discourse is like, dude, like you, Claire Obscure had like Hollywood actors and like top of the line voice talent on the, on the game already.
00:54:11
BeyBlade
You know what's you know it's a crazy thought?
00:54:13
unc leon
But so, so did dispatch.
00:54:15
BeyBlade
So Claire Obscure Expedition 33 has the the record for most wins, most nominations I think ever, and most wins, at the very least most wins.
00:54:15
unc leon
So it's like,
00:54:28
BeyBlade
So it's like on paper, I guess you could make the argument that this is the greatest game of all time. And I really doubt that is what the consensus is.
00:54:40
BeyBlade
But it's also a crazy stat, right? You could be like, oh, no, like, listen, like, mathematically, this is the greatest game of all time.
00:54:45
unc leon
but do well Which is why, which is why like and and again, like i don't I don't want to say like you should pick and choose and stuff, but like you know especially with all the discourse behind Dave the Diver and stuff, like it's kind of like, come on, let's scale back
00:54:59
BeyBlade
Yeah. Well, that's, see, Keely just gets throw his hands on go, i didn't I didn't pick it. I don't pick him. You guys pick him.
00:55:07
Steve-O
Yeah, I mean, the thing is, you know, you you go back, you look at the years movies have come out, and then you look at, like, what movie won the Best Movie of the Year award that year, and you're like, oh, you know, they were...
00:55:18
unc leon
Anora. Should Anora have won?
00:55:21
Steve-O
They were off.
00:55:21
unc leon
Best picture?
00:55:23
BeyBlade
I don't know what year.
00:55:24
billfrankenstein
No.
00:55:25
BeyBlade
No.
00:55:25
billfrankenstein
Oh,
00:55:26
unc leon
Crash?
00:55:26
BeyBlade
Maybe.
00:55:27
unc leon
Yo, is Claire Obscure the Crash of Game Awards?
00:55:29
Steve-O
No. No.
00:55:29
billfrankenstein
no, they don't say that.
00:55:30
Steve-O
Because but the thing is that the thing is, it's like...
00:55:30
BeyBlade
yeah Because I think that's the only thing, though, is like no one, because it's really good.
00:55:31
unc leon
I was just trolling. No, but now it's getting a lot unnecessary hate because...
00:55:34
billfrankenstein
its
00:55:35
BeyBlade
Hey, it's a great game. It's amazing.
00:55:37
Steve-O
I definitely think, like, you know, Claire Obscure, you know, I agree with it, but I do understand.
00:55:41
unc leon
ah but like now now it's getting now it's getting a lot of like unnecessary hate because
00:55:46
Steve-O
the The psycho haters have come out, and it seems that they are coming from ah the kingdom.
00:55:49
unc leon
Yeah, because...
00:55:51
Steve-O
What is that? Kingdom Come Deliverance.
00:55:52
unc leon
Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, yeah.
00:55:52
BeyBlade
Kingdom Come.
00:55:53
Steve-O
It seems that fan base is a feral.
00:55:54
BeyBlade
I'll be honest, the fact that they were blown away that they didn't win, like that Claire beat Kingdom Come for ah Best RPG, I'm like, were you...
00:56:03
unc leon
What did you play?
00:56:03
BeyBlade
If if there was a...
00:56:03
unc leon
Did you play Kingdom Come?
00:56:05
BeyBlade
No, but i didn't I didn't need to, dude.
00:56:06
unc leon
Devin, did you play it?
00:56:07
Steve-O
I don't have dreams to be a peasant.
00:56:08
BeyBlade
Like, if if there was just a lock, if there was just a lock of the of the entire Game Awards, I would have said, it's gonna, at the very least, win Best fucking RPG.
00:56:08
unc leon
Well, how do you... Well, how do you know?
00:56:09
Steve-O
I don't have those dreams.
00:56:11
unc leon
well that Well, that's the thing. It's like...
00:56:22
BeyBlade
Like, at the very least, i It just had no shock.
00:56:26
unc leon
Yeah, sure, but Kingdom Come Delivered 2, from what I hear, is an excellent RPG.
00:56:34
Steve-O
Sounds like you got to play it, John.
00:56:35
unc leon
morris so More so than, a then you know, probably more so than the game as a whole, which is which is what the argument is. I'm i'm not saying it's one one way or the other.
00:56:46
unc leon
All I know is, you know, the fact that Claire Obscure lost to Battlefield and a fucking gacha game and...
00:56:53
Steve-O
Yeah, for best, what is that, best audio?
00:56:56
unc leon
Yeah, it's just like crazy to me.
00:56:56
BeyBlade
yeah
00:56:57
Steve-O
To be fair, like, for that, where it's like, what was that, Wuthering Waves Run, or one?
00:57:03
unc leon
Yeah, dude. Yeah.
00:57:05
Steve-O
I, yeah, no, no, I did not.
00:57:05
unc leon
The gotcha game one. You played that game? Ah.
00:57:09
Steve-O
But ah that scares me, because it's like, look at how many people picked that, probably.
00:57:15
BeyBlade
felt like a troll pick, to be honest.
00:57:15
unc leon
Yeah.
00:57:17
Steve-O
I don't even think it's a troll pick.
00:57:18
unc leon
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
00:57:18
Steve-O
i just think I just think that many people play that and are like feral for it.
00:57:19
unc leon
Fuck it.
00:57:22
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. that but There's a lot of, like, I saw that Dunkey video about where the winds blow or whatever the fuck. Yeah,
00:57:30
BeyBlade
Your wins meet or whatever. Yeah.
00:57:30
Steve-O
Yeah, that was that was that.
00:57:32
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:57:32
billfrankenstein
yeah that that is shocking how many people like that game, and it's pretty shitty general. Yeah.
00:57:41
unc leon
No, but ah also it's like the fact that it won, what, it had nine wins, right?
00:57:46
BeyBlade
Nine wins, yeah.
00:57:47
Steve-O
Yeah.
00:57:48
unc leon
Like people that never played it before are going to play it thinking it's going to be fucking Final Fantasy X and it's not, you know?
00:57:52
billfrankenstein
Yeah. here
00:57:56
unc leon
I mean, it's close.
00:57:57
BeyBlade
It might be for somebody.
00:57:59
Steve-O
I think it is definitely like an excellent game. And I think the more, ah you know, the more you try to sell it as being like the best game of the year or best game ever, you're going to get let down.
00:58:03
unc leon
But, Yeah.
00:58:13
Steve-O
When I played that game, I expected nothing from it. And it came out and just like slugged me in the face with like the quality and how much I liked it. Going into it being like, this is the best game of the year.
00:58:25
Steve-O
It is the highest
00:58:26
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:58:28
Steve-O
rated um or it's the most wins from a game award and then you play it and you'll be like okay um interesting like you played bonanza
00:58:38
unc leon
Yeah, because what I played... i mean, the fact that it surpassed Donkey Kong for me is is pretty huge as well. um But again, like unlike you, Steve, I went in saying this better be a fucking Jesus Christ miracle.
00:58:56
unc leon
Like, miracle on 34th Street experience for me. And it was a really good game, and I really enjoyed it. I love talking about it. Everything. I i i agree with
00:59:06
Steve-O
That could have been a horizon.
00:59:08
unc leon
I agree with most of the wins that it got. Like, like game of the year, Shuin was going to win game of the year the whole the whole year. Like, right? It wasn't my personal game of the year, but I understand, and I and i and i i think it deserved it's well-deserved, that game.
00:59:25
unc leon
Game direction, probably, I guess. I didn't play anything else on the list. Some people say Death Stranding 2 probably should have won, maybe.
00:59:35
unc leon
Devin, you're playing that now.
00:59:35
Steve-O
You know what?
00:59:36
Steve-O
I got to give it to Keely. I got to give it to Keely because that's his bro, Kojima.
00:59:41
unc leon
ah Yeah. the the People were tweeting generic ah air airport photos saying, like oh, Kojima is leaving the United States now.
00:59:47
BeyBlade
Thank you.
00:59:52
unc leon
I guess it's over between him andki
00:59:54
billfrankenstein
He's probably going to tweet like, i went to the Game Awards that's it.
00:59:54
BeyBlade
Yeah. um
00:59:57
unc leon
and Keeley. Best narrative for sure. Best art direction, you could argue you could argue this one, I think. Because it could have gone to Hades 2. could have gone Hollow Knight Silksong. I think those games...
01:00:10
unc leon
the The colors and the... The fact that... i mean, again, I don't want to fucking stroke my shit, but the fact that it... ah Like, did Cuphead win Best Art Direction in 2015?
01:00:23
Steve-O
I don't know.
01:00:23
unc leon
The fact that the art team hand-drew everything is like... Or the art guy hand-drew the entire game is is pretty amazing itself. um But yeah, I understand why it won Best Art Direction.
01:00:35
BeyBlade
Yeah, it won a Best Art Direction, Best Debut Indie Game, and Best Indie Game.
01:00:37
unc leon
Best score. Understand.
01:00:41
unc leon
they picked They picked the... Oh, wait. Cuphead won Best Art Direction that year.
01:00:46
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:48
unc leon
Dude, see? ah
01:00:48
BeyBlade
According to AI Overview.
01:00:50
unc leon
I'm just saying, dog.
01:00:50
BeyBlade
But yeah.
01:00:52
unc leon
Like, you know, that could have gone to a Hades 2 or a Hollow Knight. You know? like It could have gone to either one. um But I get it. Best score, I get it completely.
01:01:04
unc leon
I agree with it somewhat. I still think Silksong is a better soundtrack, but I totally understand why that won. But like, and best performance, they picked the best choice.
01:01:16
unc leon
I mean, Ben Starr could have won too, I think.
01:01:17
BeyBlade
Yeah. i Yeah, I feel like It
01:01:20
unc leon
But I think Charlie Cox winning would have been, would have set a bad example, I think.
01:01:23
BeyBlade
it would have been embarrassing, I think.
01:01:24
billfrankenstein
Bye.
01:01:24
unc leon
ah So, um you know, I'm glad she won.
01:01:25
BeyBlade
considering I don't like that he was... It's not that I don't like that he was nominated, but it was like... Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:33
unc leon
But dude, they're like, they're feeding into the fucking Hollywood shit with that with that one, you know?
01:01:37
BeyBlade
Yeah. to
01:01:38
unc leon
they it's because it's cause Keeley wanted him to attend and it would have been a big thing if he if he attended.
01:01:43
Steve-O
Keeley's always been all crazy to get
01:01:44
unc leon
you know
01:01:45
BeyBlade
Yeah, but the thing is, is like he's not the one
01:01:45
unc leon
and he' And he's petty. did you Remember when Silksong won Best Action Adventure Game? He was like, see, you won one. Because the whole thing where they were like...
01:01:54
Steve-O
Did he say that?
01:01:54
BeyBlade
one... I don't know if that's petty. I think he's just more he's more dialed in than I think people give him credit for.
01:02:01
unc leon
Well, that wasn't to the fans.
01:02:02
BeyBlade
know what I mean?
01:02:02
unc leon
i That was basically directed at Team Cherry, I think.
01:02:05
BeyBlade
ah No, I think that was to the fans because it was a lot of people bitching and moaning that Silk Song wasn't going to win anything because it was going to lose to Claire Obscure in every...
01:02:05
unc leon
Because... why it's not like the fans won
01:02:15
unc leon
no but also team cherry no but team cherry did the did the interview where they they didn't even they didn't show up because they knew they weren't gonna win anything like that like it's not like they it's not like with the way they said it was petty but they youre they were like like
01:02:15
BeyBlade
You literally were that guy!............
01:02:31
unc leon
why should we watch why should we fly out 30 hours to to, you know, because they knew but it was going to be a four-hour fucking glaze fest of Expedition 33, so it's like, we could just be working on on our next project instead.
01:02:31
Steve-O
They didn't want to get Black Myth Wukonged.
01:02:46
Steve-O
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Hollow Knight 3, make it 3D.
01:02:47
unc leon
Brian's head mindset.
01:02:50
Steve-O
Then we'll talk.
01:02:53
unc leon
Dude, they're saying that it might not be Hollow Knight game, the next the next game.
01:02:57
billfrankenstein
give hol Give Holiday a big ass, too.
01:02:57
unc leon
and
01:03:00
billfrankenstein
have a jig all around.
01:03:00
unc leon
But like, best Best independent game? Like, dude.
01:03:05
BeyBlade
Dude, it's ending.
01:03:05
unc leon
Blueprints could've won. Could've won that. Absalom could've won. Like, these smaller fucking...
01:03:12
Steve-O
I think we need to um redefine indie games because if you have a publisher, like you're you're getting money.
01:03:12
unc leon
Ball X Pit, too. You know? It's...
01:03:18
unc leon
Because, like... Yeah, it's like, why why didn't Baldur's Gate 3 get nominated for best in the game last year, then? You know?
01:03:29
unc leon
It's basically the same shit. Same type of shit, you know?
01:03:32
BeyBlade
Ahhhh.
01:03:34
unc leon
it's ah It's not a AAA game, but it kind of gets almost to there, and it it has the AAA quality, but not not a AAA-type game.
01:03:44
Steve-O
I'm curious who did win.
01:03:44
unc leon
aside Aside from the fact that they used Dungeons & Dragons IP, that's probably the biggest reason why it didn't.
01:03:48
BeyBlade
Yeah, I mean, I think maybe that's the big one, right?
01:03:53
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:03:54
Steve-O
Yeah, but what's bigger than Dungeons and Dragons? France.
01:03:58
unc leon
And i think debut I think debut indie game, is just ah they should just throw that out and and get a new category for independent games.
01:03:59
billfrankenstein
Bye.
01:03:59
BeyBlade
and I would love to see some more... um
01:04:08
Steve-O
Single developer.
01:04:09
BeyBlade
i would well I would just like to see ah categories that may float in or float out. Like, if you just don't have a lot, like just don't use it. right Kind of like best ah was best like thing based off a video game.
01:04:25
unc leon
Best Adaptation.
01:04:26
BeyBlade
Yeah, like, there just weren't a lot.
01:04:27
unc leon
Yeah, Sonic 3 wasn't even nominated, which is trash.
01:04:29
BeyBlade
It wasn't even nominated.
01:04:30
Steve-O
That was wild.
01:04:31
BeyBlade
But like, if you're just not gonna, if the options aren't super good, just, we can pass on it this year, you know? Let's let's just drop It wasn't a lot. It's fine.
01:04:41
unc leon
I'm glad we won Best Action Adventure, though. Dude, they beat Kojima. They beat kojima eat Sucker Punch.
01:04:45
billfrankenstein
yeah mean if If that philosophy were true, there'd be like five years of the Oscars that that would just never exist.
01:04:51
BeyBlade
I know. That's fine.
01:04:52
unc leon
Did Breath of the Wild win all like went all of these categories, too?
01:04:53
BeyBlade
That's fine.
01:04:56
BeyBlade
Dude, like Breath of the...
01:04:57
Steve-O
don't know.
01:04:57
BeyBlade
We had years where like it was Breath of Wild last year with... ah Or not last year.
01:05:01
unc leon
Because cause god God of War and Red Dead 2 basically split all of the rewards that year, if if I remember correctly.
01:05:02
BeyBlade
Baldur's Gate 3 year was like that.
01:05:09
BeyBlade
Yeah, I think so.
01:05:11
unc leon
like It was like, Game the Year God of War, but best performance was Arthur Morgan.
01:05:19
Steve-O
ah right.
01:05:19
unc leon
Best soundtrack.
01:05:19
Steve-O
Bellatra won the indie game.
01:05:21
billfrankenstein
best performance, Bellatro clown.
01:05:24
Steve-O
Yeah. I, yeah. Bellatra winning last year makes sense.
01:05:29
unc leon
My best is this gonna This might not surprise you guys, but my biggest issue with with this whole thing was the fucking best esports game.
01:05:40
unc leon
Because it's the same fucking games every year.
01:05:40
Steve-O
I think they, they need to get rid of those.
01:05:42
unc leon
Same games every single year.
01:05:44
Steve-O
I'm sick of just like pretending to know who any of these people are or care. Like,
01:05:49
unc leon
And again, i don't want to i don't want to glaze the only the things that i that I enjoy myself, but like they had two Street Fighter 6 professionals, that one of them who won a million dollars last year Nominated for best esports athlete.
01:05:50
BeyBlade
Well,
01:06:02
unc leon
I knew they weren't going to win. But then they don't have Street Fighter 6. In best esports game. But they have two athletes from it. Be nominated for the best athletes. Like come on.
01:06:10
Steve-O
That is kind of weird.
01:06:12
unc leon
it's fuck It doesn't make any fucking sense dude.
01:06:14
billfrankenstein
The nominees are Kwan, Big Old Hot Dog, Jingle Jangle,
01:06:14
unc leon
Like it's.
01:06:19
unc leon
It's just like stupid.
01:06:20
unc leon
Like how many.
01:06:20
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:06:20
Steve-O
i voted Jingle Jam.
01:06:22
unc leon
How many times are Counter-Strike 2 and fucking Valorant going to swap every year on what they win?
01:06:27
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:06:28
unc leon
It's such a nothing award, dude.
01:06:30
Steve-O
It's also, it's it's strange to me that they do um the, ah it's it's not the one where it's like this continued game. It's the one that No Man's Sky won this year.
01:06:40
unc leon
ah be simple for support and our Best Oh no, Best Continuing Game?
01:06:42
BeyBlade
Supportive?
01:06:42
Steve-O
ongoing in
01:06:42
billfrankenstein
That's I'm sorry game. I'm sorry.
01:06:44
BeyBlade
yeah
01:06:46
billfrankenstein
Whoopsie. We made a mistake.
01:06:48
BeyBlade
That's the ongoing.
01:06:49
Steve-O
That would be like if at the Oscars they had like the the best movie i I watched this year, like for like,
01:06:57
billfrankenstein
hey The Godfather. Happy Gilmore.
01:06:59
Steve-O
Yeah, it would be like...
01:07:00
BeyBlade
That's 4K restoration.
01:07:00
unc leon
Yeah, like, look at this.
01:07:02
billfrankenstein
abby gilmore
01:07:02
unc leon
2018.
01:07:03
BeyBlade
no
01:07:05
unc leon
2018, ready? Game of the Year, God of War. Game Direction, God of War. Narrative, Red 2. Score, Red Dead 2. Audio Design, Red Dead 2. Best Art Direction, Return of the Obra Dinn.
01:07:16
billfrankenstein
Return of the...
01:07:16
unc leon
why didn't they get it Why didn't they just give it to God of War Red Dead 2 if those were winning all the other awards? because And that was an indie game.
01:07:23
BeyBlade
Was it up for it? I guess was it. I mean, you know.
01:07:26
unc leon
Red Dead 2 and God of War were both up for Best Art Direction 2.
01:07:28
BeyBlade
Yeah. The the blame really, like at this point, though, it's like the blame is on whoever is voting these votes.
01:07:32
unc leon
It's because the game was about paint. So they were like, oh, we have to because it's about paint.
01:07:37
Steve-O
you
01:07:37
unc leon
It's art. It's so stupid, dude.
01:07:39
BeyBlade
Listen, I agree. It's too cute not to win, John.
01:07:43
unc leon
Celeste won Best Indie. Best independent game, Red Dead 2. Best debut indie game, God of War.
01:07:53
BeyBlade
Hell yeah.
01:07:53
unc leon
Just kidding. That's not it.
01:07:54
BeyBlade
I'm in. I'm hard in.
01:07:56
unc leon
Oh, yeah. God of War won Best Action Adventure that year.
01:07:57
BeyBlade
oh
01:07:59
BeyBlade
Makes sense.
01:07:59
unc leon
Yeah, I mean, it basically, God of War and Red Dead 2 basically just split all the fucking awards that year. All the big ones, at least.
01:08:06
BeyBlade
Yeah. Good.
01:08:08
unc leon
At least Red Dead 2 won Best Music.
01:08:10
BeyBlade
it's It's like, ah yeah. Like, are are you saying like, would i like to see more of a split between song and
01:08:14
unc leon
Damn, Spider-Man. Spider-Man.
01:08:17
unc leon
Well, not not Split. No, no, no, no, no. i no i knew I knew Silksong wasn't going to win a lot of stuff. What I'm what i'm saying is, like... they clearly have like, they clearly had somewhat of an agenda.
01:08:34
unc leon
And kind of agree with the agenda, which is like a big fuck you publishers and stuff, big, big AAA publishers and everything. And I get it, but then they lose to, but then they lose the battlefield six and best audio design.
01:08:42
BeyBlade
But like, whose agenda? Because...
01:08:47
unc leon
So, so ea' is like, you know what?
01:08:48
billfrankenstein
Thank you.
01:08:49
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:08:50
unc leon
We're doing something right here, guys.
01:08:52
Steve-O
We're buying one, baby.
01:08:52
unc leon
We're still doing something right.
01:08:53
Steve-O
We're buying one.
01:08:53
BeyBlade
but But I mean, like, whose agenda, though? Because Keeley doesn't pick, right?
01:08:58
unc leon
No, no, no.
01:08:58
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:08:58
unc leon
I'm just saying, like, the Hivemind agenda.
01:08:58
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:09:00
unc leon
So the people that are voting, like, the the journalists or whatever, like, they they...
01:09:02
BeyBlade
yeah
01:09:05
unc leon
I don't know if... Like, it's the same thing with these NBA MVP votings and shit, too, where they're... It's like... And even MLB, where it's like, oh, we should... Like, you guys don't watch baseball, but, like, oh, Cal Raleigh is a catcher, and he had all these amazing accolades as a catcher this year.
01:09:22
unc leon
he probably should be MVP, but we're just gonna give it to Aaron Judge because... he had a better on base percentage or some, some bullshit, you know, it's like, it's stuff like that where it's like stat heads are like, they're like people that actually do vote and they, and it matters like are, are in on the, the, the outside narratives.
01:09:33
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:09:42
unc leon
And it kind of gets in the way of like other things that are, that should be affecting it. It should just be in a vacuum.
01:09:49
Steve-O
i think I think that the takeaway from this is none of the big three really put out a banger. And that's the that's the problem is the indie developers were the ones who kind of carried this year.
01:10:06
BeyBlade
yeah i mean that's that's to Yeah, I agree. That's the narrative, right?
01:10:09
Steve-O
Yeah, like that's like, you know, PlayStation's biggest game was Yotei, right?
01:10:10
BeyBlade
It's like...
01:10:13
unc leon
No, and that's why I say I i agree with the i agree with the i agree with the agenda, but like they didn't have to go so hard on one title. like they it couldve you know Especially with the with the indie game the indie game stuff.
01:10:23
Steve-O
yeah I think that's the thing. i think I think a lot of people kind of fell in love with Claire Obscure.
01:10:26
unc leon
the indie game
01:10:29
Steve-O
very like I understand that. like I understand that being like a lot of people's go-to. But I also understand you know people ride or dying for Silksong and that being in their favorites.
01:10:39
Steve-O
I do think that the journalists that picked the awards... were definitely they based on reviews, you're, you know, more people were heavily leaning towards that game.
01:10:49
Steve-O
And it it it's kind of strange to be like the people who probably reviewed the games all throughout the year, pick the best game of the year, because then it's just like, you just go to open critic and that's how you find out who the best game of the year is.
01:11:04
unc leon
Yeah.
01:11:06
Steve-O
And it's like best game of the year.
01:11:06
BeyBlade
Yeah, right.
01:11:06
unc leon
and don't want to be I don't want to be that guy, too, but like you know the the other thing is like I feel like also with the indie games, like Claire Obscure was the easy fucking the easy pick that probably every journalist played, whereas whereas they probably didn't all play Absalom, or they didn't all play um Dispatch, I guess.
01:11:06
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:11:30
unc leon
Like, how does Dispatch get Best Debut Indie Game nominee, but they don't get a Best Independent Game nominee?
01:11:35
Steve-O
mean they didn't they didn't get a voice actor or anything like performance it definitely like squeaked in which is
01:11:37
unc leon
Like, that doesn't make any sense to me
01:11:41
unc leon
You know?
01:11:41
BeyBlade
Yeah, I mean,
01:11:46
BeyBlade
yeah which again, it's almost like, and at that point, that's a little bit more on Keely, right? It's like, maybe you should have some sort of rule about stuff like this.
01:11:56
BeyBlade
But at the same time, maybe it's such a unique scenario that it's like, let's, the odds of this happening.
01:11:59
Steve-O
That's, hey, that's why we wait.
01:12:01
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:12:01
Steve-O
We wait until January when we do ours. Because we want to get the whole year done. We know stuff comes out in December.
01:12:07
billfrankenstein
Yeah, there there could be some squeakers coming out, you know, that especially films that, you know, they come out on Christmas, you know, like Nosferatu last year.
01:12:19
billfrankenstein
That was fucking a banger.
01:12:19
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:12:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah. So, yeah, you got you got to give it the whole year. You never know.
01:12:25
Steve-O
I think, yeah, like this, like, Claire Obscure was probably out of the games from like the best game category.
01:12:36
Steve-O
That was probably the easiest to consume. Yeah.
01:12:40
unc leon
agreed Yeah, I think they released it like early too, right?
01:12:40
Steve-O
And that's probably why i won.
01:12:43
billfrankenstein
not the video games the
01:12:45
unc leon
They released it when it come out, February or some shit?
01:12:46
Steve-O
It was like May, March. It was definitely early April.
01:12:49
unc leon
But I think they released review copies in February, I think, because they were that confident in it, which makes sense.
01:12:53
Steve-O
Okay.
01:12:54
BeyBlade
Oh, I love that is one of my favorite things to hear when something gets like when like review copies get really super early out of pure confidence.
01:12:55
Steve-O
Hmm.
01:12:56
unc leon
Or something like that. What?
01:13:05
BeyBlade
They're like, yeah, dude.
01:13:05
unc leon
You know what I like? When... ah when a but when a developer says, nah, we're just gonna, it's not gonna be fair to the Kickstarters that helped us build this, so we're gonna release it all to everybody at the same time.
01:13:18
BeyBlade
Love that too.
01:13:18
Steve-O
I love that.
01:13:19
unc leon
Yeah.
01:13:19
Steve-O
You know what?
01:13:20
billfrankenstein
I'm a shadow drop guy myself.
01:13:22
Steve-O
I think Megabunk.
01:13:22
billfrankenstein
I get one of those, gets me going.
01:13:24
BeyBlade
You like scrambling get on the floor.
01:13:25
Steve-O
Megabunk should have got a shout out.
01:13:25
unc leon
Yeah, Mega, dude, Megabonk didn't get, didn't get any fucking love. Like, they could've just, like, that actually makes me mad, dude.
01:13:30
Steve-O
I think Jeff should have been like, loved to loved a Megabunk for, you know, Megabunk was nominated, but honorably bowed out.
01:13:37
billfrankenstein
We all bonking out here, mega bonk. That's what he should have said.
01:13:41
unc leon
And I think it's kind of a flex that he backed out, too.
01:13:43
billfrankenstein
It's true.
01:13:46
Steve-O
I mean, let's, well, hold on.
01:13:46
unc leon
He's like, fuck that.
01:13:48
Steve-O
Think about it this way. Okay. Like he backed out. Had any of us had played Megabunk until he had backed out and we were like, oh, that's kind of, that's kind of a sick move.
01:13:55
BeyBlade
I think you guys, John, for sure, I thought.
01:13:56
unc leon
No, yeah no i didn't I didn't play it until after he backed out.
01:13:59
Steve-O
Yeah, I think the back out move kind of got some bonk bucks going up.
01:13:59
BeyBlade
Oh, okay.
01:14:00
unc leon
Because...
01:14:06
billfrankenstein
It was fun.
01:14:06
Steve-O
Stonks and bonks went up.
01:14:08
billfrankenstein
Can't stop. Won't stop playing the new level. Love it.
01:14:12
unc leon
ah Yeah, best ongoing game, No Man's Sky.
01:14:12
billfrankenstein
Big time.
01:14:15
unc leon
Like, come on.
01:14:16
Steve-O
Yeah, let's... up Did we talk about all the trailers or we kind of got a little sidetracked into the actual awards?
01:14:17
unc leon
Why was... it
01:14:19
BeyBlade
Yeah, we we got a little sidetracked. I mean... um if there were any like super notable, you know what I have a bit of a hot take.
01:14:27
Steve-O
Okay. Okay.
01:14:28
billfrankenstein
Okay. Okay.
01:14:28
BeyBlade
I, uh, I love Mega Man. I do. I love Mega Man. I saw the Mega Man trailer.
01:14:36
unc leon
But... But...
01:14:37
BeyBlade
I was a little bummed out when I saw it was a 2D Mega Man game.
01:14:39
unc leon
um
01:14:41
Steve-O
You know what?
01:14:41
BeyBlade
I was like, no, no, it is.
01:14:41
Steve-O
I'm going to hit you with a hot take right back.
01:14:42
unc leon
Oh, it's not? I thought it was 2D.
01:14:45
BeyBlade
I was bummed out that it was like a traditional side-scroller 2D.
01:14:47
unc leon
Oh.
01:14:49
Steve-O
Hot take right back.
01:14:49
unc leon
Why?
01:14:50
Steve-O
I agree with you, Devin.
01:14:51
BeyBlade
Cause like a dude, oh
01:14:52
unc leon
you guys You guys think it should be 3D?
01:14:54
Steve-O
i don't
01:14:54
BeyBlade
I, will it's not that I want Leggings three, but yeah.
01:14:55
Steve-O
I don't think I should have to wait two years for 2D Mega Man.
01:14:57
billfrankenstein
you got You guys want a Souls-like Mega Man game.
01:15:00
unc leon
And some likes could be 2D as well, Chris.
01:15:01
billfrankenstein
Ha ha ha ha!
01:15:04
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's true.
01:15:05
Steve-O
The way the trailer played, you're going down this tunnel. I honestly said this is going to be a new Halo game. Like I thought it was Halo.
01:15:13
BeyBlade
No, actually, you know what I thought?
01:15:13
Steve-O
And then when they opened up the thing.
01:15:14
BeyBlade
You know, my dumb ass, this is my tiny chair moment. I got in the chair, John, you were in the bathroom.
01:15:18
Steve-O
oh
01:15:19
billfrankenstein
He thought it was a Warhammer game? Is that what he said?
01:15:21
BeyBlade
No, I thought was a Chrono Trigger game.
01:15:22
billfrankenstein
Chrono Trigger.
01:15:22
BeyBlade
was like, oh my God.
01:15:24
BeyBlade
Because I'd heard, where I'd let myself.
01:15:24
billfrankenstein
That's right.
01:15:25
unc leon
That's never coming out.
01:15:26
billfrankenstein
Yeah, you were spouting about that all night.
01:15:27
unc leon
I think there's i think there's i think there's a more ah a higher chance that Bloodborne 2 gets announced before Chrono Trigger remake gets announced.
01:15:35
BeyBlade
We don't have to. I mean, that's probably, that's actually very true.
01:15:38
billfrankenstein
Yeah, the the the the rights to that are all are kind of funky.
01:15:38
BeyBlade
But listen, I had read a thing. i had heard a thing. You know, you never know. And I was like, okay.
01:15:47
billfrankenstein
I mean, I read a thing and heard a thing about Half-Life 3, but I didn't see shit, Devin. Okay.
01:15:52
unc leon
We were just like, Chris, wait for the big orange screen. And then, you know,
01:15:55
BeyBlade
Listen, all I'm going to say is the guy was like, ah the guy was like, hey, ah one one of the creators was basically like, hey, i'm not I can't say anything.
01:15:58
unc leon
happy it's coming. It's coming.
01:16:06
BeyBlade
I'll get in trouble if I even talk about it. So I'm not going to talk about it. And that could be just normal things or maybe there was something to it. Because like the 30th anniversary is this year, I think.
01:16:18
Steve-O
Oh, for Chrono?
01:16:18
BeyBlade
And all that. There were, yeah, there were.
01:16:19
unc leon
Hmm.
01:16:19
BeyBlade
Anyway, point is, is I saw this Mega Man Duel Override trailer and I was like, dude, because Because like a few days leading up to it, Capcom announced that they want to treat Mega Man as one of their premier franchises again. So it's nice to see it, but I think you just need to, if you want it to be a premier franchise, if you want it to be right up there with your Resident Evils, your Monster Hunters and things like that, I think you just need to change the the design of the game. Like, I think you need to make it a 3D game.
01:16:55
BeyBlade
Like, Whether that's Legends 3 or that's just its own thing.
01:16:59
billfrankenstein
Kind of on the fence with that because, and yes, i I agree that it should evolve. I just hate, like, I hate that there isn't a place for really solid 2D games.
01:17:11
billfrankenstein
And Mega Man is that place.
01:17:11
Steve-O
There is, though. like I mean, like, Silksong was nominated for best game.
01:17:19
billfrankenstein
You're right.
01:17:19
Steve-O
I think if if they were like Mega Man Duel Override and it was like by Team Cherry or something like that, that would have made people lose their minds.
01:17:19
billfrankenstein
That is true.
01:17:29
Steve-O
But basically what they showed us was Like they they get you all hyped up. You're like, oh, Mega Man, what's this going to be? And then just looks like a classic Mega Man.
01:17:38
unc leon
just a regular Mega Man.
01:17:38
Steve-O
Just jumpy shoe, man.
01:17:40
BeyBlade
yeah Yeah, and it's it's not bad, and I'm sure it will be good because that is a good you know blueprint for games.
01:17:40
unc leon
Yeah.
01:17:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:17:45
Steve-O
Dude,
01:17:48
Steve-O
it's a great blueprint.
01:17:48
BeyBlade
mark ah I don't know, man.
01:17:51
Steve-O
It's Mega Man.
01:17:51
BeyBlade
I just...
01:17:52
Steve-O
Like, that's the thing, though.
01:17:53
BeyBlade
so suck Because I'm so bad at these Mega Man games, man.
01:17:54
Steve-O
It's like 20. They announced 2027 Mega Man game. Like, wow.
01:18:00
unc leon
Yeah, it's like, really?
01:18:00
Steve-O
like
01:18:01
BeyBlade
You know, though, I'll be honest.
01:18:01
unc leon
It's going to take you that long?
01:18:02
BeyBlade
I had to remind myself that, like, if it may as well be 2026 now, though, right? It's like we're 2025. It's not two years away. It's like a year away.
01:18:11
unc leon
Yeah, but usually with Capcom, that they don't announce something that's two years in the future.
01:18:18
Steve-O
They do the Resident Evil like you got six months, three months.
01:18:18
unc leon
They usually... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:18:23
billfrankenstein
They didn't really show much.
01:18:23
BeyBlade
that's true.
01:18:23
unc leon
You know?
01:18:24
billfrankenstein
I don't imagine there's much to it.
01:18:26
BeyBlade
Yeah, there's not a lot done, right? But.
01:18:29
billfrankenstein
I don't know.
01:18:30
Steve-O
Mega Man Legends 3, they should have.
01:18:31
BeyBlade
I just, I listen. And who's he saying?
01:18:33
billfrankenstein
I wasn't disappointed, nor was I excited. was kind of in the middle.
01:18:38
BeyBlade
i I just, I see Mega Man. i can I get excited.
01:18:41
Steve-O
i want to get I want to get hype for Mega Man. I love Mega Man. But also I want Mega Man to be new. I want him to be reinvented like so many other games have.
01:18:52
unc leon
Yeah. Well, I mean, look how good mar Super Mario Wonder was. Maybe it'll be good like that, you know?
01:18:59
Steve-O
You know what's strange? Talk about a game that kind of did that was the Control Resonant trailer. Where it like started with like an onstage performance and then it it ah it evolved into the trailer.
01:19:07
unc leon
Mine was Divinity.
01:19:09
billfrankenstein
That was
01:19:13
BeyBlade
That might be my favorite trailer of the show for me.
01:19:17
Steve-O
So they basically say, that makes sense.
01:19:19
unc leon
mine was mine was divinity Because it was fucking crazy.
01:19:21
BeyBlade
real Over. Yeah. Yeah. I guess so. Yeah.
01:19:24
billfrankenstein
I'm a big control guy. i think it was for me too. Like I really.
01:19:28
BeyBlade
The presentation, the, cause it's presentation, cool CG trailer, then gameplay, you know, it kind of hit all the metrics and I was, and, and 2026.
01:19:29
billfrankenstein
Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:35
Steve-O
Right. they They did everything you should.
01:19:39
billfrankenstein
now Now, the interesting aspect of it all, too, is the reason I love Control so much is because I like the oldest house so much.
01:19:40
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:19:49
billfrankenstein
Without that element being in the game, i i will like I'm a little cautious about it.
01:19:49
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:19:55
billfrankenstein
But that kind of makes it exciting because they're breaking it open a little
01:20:00
Steve-O
Yeah, the house is out.
01:20:00
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:20:01
Steve-O
It's it. You know, it seems like Jesse's the enemy in this one. And you're playing as a I forget his name, Zach or something.
01:20:09
unc leon
as ah Jared Leto. Jared Leto.
01:20:11
Steve-O
you're You're playing you're playing as Jesse's brother.
01:20:11
BeyBlade
dick Jesse's brother.
01:20:11
unc leon
ah jared lana
01:20:13
Steve-O
And like, that's interesting. It looks like it's like a melee based game more like.
01:20:18
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:20:19
BeyBlade
Yeah, I think they said was going to be more of like an action adventure type game.
01:20:23
Steve-O
That's interesting.
01:20:23
billfrankenstein
i think you're gonna I think you're going to play as both him and and his sister.
01:20:27
Steve-O
I wouldn't be surprised, but that's so cool. That's cool that they're like, they're doing so much in this universe. And honestly, Control was one of my favorite games of 2019. Yeah. Yeah.
01:20:38
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it's such a great aesthetic, you know? And that that's, like, the other thing about the oldest house, too, is, like, yeah kind of it does It's different that they're going outside of it because the aesthetic is really great in that in that place.
01:20:51
Steve-O
yeah
01:20:52
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:20:52
billfrankenstein
It is wonderful. But yeah, I thought that was really dynamic and it was a fun trailer and I'm excited for it too.
01:20:59
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:21:02
Steve-O
John, you were saying Divinity was one of your go-tos for the the game awards?
01:21:02
BeyBlade
of
01:21:05
unc leon
That trailer was awesome. I don't know if I'm going to play that game.
01:21:07
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:21:07
billfrankenstein
yeah I came, that did look good.
01:21:11
unc leon
i don't know if I'm going to play that game, but like they went from like, fucking Donkey Kong being shown and K-pop Demon Hunters in the in the beginning and shit in the hype trailer to showing fucking full-blown sex and human sacrifice and like fucking...
01:21:27
billfrankenstein
A girl having sex with like a ah lizard man.
01:21:28
unc leon
Bro.
01:21:30
BeyBlade
next to like Next to like a pig vomiting or eating vomit.
01:21:30
unc leon
couldn' see bro It looked wild.
01:21:32
billfrankenstein
yeah That's cool.
01:21:35
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:21:37
unc leon
and i guess maybe
01:21:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:21:40
unc leon
this is a good thing Larian Studios to do after the huge success of Baldur's Gate 3, which I think they've they've expressed that they have no interest in doing another one.
01:21:51
unc leon
ah So now, like, you know, they can just fucking do whatever the fuck they want, and it's not going to matter. Like, they're, you know, it's going to sell. Like, it's going to be, you know, the most hype.
01:22:01
BeyBlade
Yeah. he
01:22:02
unc leon
they could They could come out with, they could be like, oh, we're doing FIFA 2027, and millions of people that were fans of Baldur's Gate 3 will just buy it anyway, you know?
01:22:13
billfrankenstein
yeah
01:22:13
unc leon
So it's good for them, I think, especially because from what I gathered, the div divisionity Divinity Original Sin was their project before they were, they were, they got like the, pri yeah, before they got big enough to do the Dungeons and Dragons IP.
01:22:28
billfrankenstein
They got famous. They got big.
01:22:29
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:22:30
BeyBlade
but he would
01:22:33
BeyBlade
Yeah, like when you heard when Baldur's Gate was three was coming out, it was, oh, it's the Divinity guys, like the Divinity Original Sin guys, which those two games, from my understanding, are really well liked.
01:22:39
unc leon
Yeah, right.
01:22:46
BeyBlade
It's just um I was never going to go near them.
01:22:46
unc leon
Yeah.
01:22:49
BeyBlade
um Still probably won't. But yeah, and it's D&D adjacent. I don't know if they work on Baldur's
01:22:56
unc leon
I thought you liked turn-based RPGs, Devin. thought you were that was your thing. thought that was your jam.
01:23:01
BeyBlade
I don't think it was. Maybe it was. I don't know. i never i never gave it a shot. what ah This trailer, though, was pretty, like you said, like pretty hardcore.
01:23:05
billfrankenstein
fell out of love.
01:23:12
unc leon
It was awesome.
01:23:13
BeyBlade
And then like you see the Larian Studios symbol, and then it's just like really goofy.
01:23:13
unc leon
It was fucking awesome awesome Yeah, and it's like, yo.
01:23:18
BeyBlade
And I'm like, okay, guys.
01:23:20
billfrankenstein
You know, you know, it it the, the mind flayer trailer really sold me on Baldur's gate three.
01:23:20
BeyBlade
like what
01:23:25
billfrankenstein
Like it's, they're very cinematic and usually kind of scary.
01:23:25
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:23:26
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:23:30
billfrankenstein
And this one was like super sexual.
01:23:31
unc leon
So you're you're probably going play this, right? Right, Chris?
01:23:33
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I'm going to play it.
01:23:34
unc leon
You're going to get this.
01:23:34
billfrankenstein
Yeah, sure.
01:23:35
unc leon
Yeah, so that's cool. Because you love Baldur's Gate 3, so it's like, why wouldn't you at least give this a shot?
01:23:37
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:23:41
billfrankenstein
I did. and And it's the same thing. The trailer sold me, you know, like that.
01:23:46
unc leon
yeah
01:23:47
billfrankenstein
They make really good fucking trailers, you know.
01:23:48
unc leon
Well, there you go.
01:23:51
billfrankenstein
I'm down with it.
01:23:51
unc leon
i think that i think that or Control or even Resident Evil probably should have been the the show ender, not High Guard.
01:23:52
billfrankenstein
I'm
01:23:58
billfrankenstein
Yeah, they I love them all. It's hard to pick one that I truly think that ah out of those three that I i didn't love.
01:24:00
Steve-O
Oh
01:24:02
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:24:06
billfrankenstein
um Yeah, the Resident Evil Requiem Trail, obviously. Like, who wouldn't...
01:24:10
Steve-O
my goodness.
01:24:10
BeyBlade
Yeah. That was, ah yeah.
01:24:11
unc leon
I mean, we all knew, we all knew, right? We all pretty much knew that he was in it.
01:24:14
Steve-O
i I let out a shriek and scared Tessa so bad when they showed Leon on screen.
01:24:19
unc leon
Ask, dude, ask Devin. I was in the fucking, I was like, dude, is that him?
01:24:22
BeyBlade
He got in the chair.
01:24:22
unc leon
Is that him?
01:24:23
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:24:24
unc leon
I got in the chair. I laid back. I was perpendicular or I was ah parallel to the floor once they showed him. And my, my dick was perpendicular pointed right up at the sky.
01:24:32
billfrankenstein
Just screaming. Yeah. Hard as hell. Screaming the whole time. Not moving.
01:24:38
unc leon
was like, yes. And then they showed him fucking doing his thing.
01:24:40
billfrankenstein
Staying prone.
01:24:43
unc leon
he was doing his Leon thing.
01:24:45
Steve-O
They gave him a chainsaw this time.
01:24:45
billfrankenstein
Got a big ass magnum.
01:24:47
unc leon
gave him a fucking throwing axe.
01:24:49
billfrankenstein
Got a Barry Burton magnum.
01:24:49
Steve-O
and
01:24:49
unc leon
Yeah, he's got the Barry Burton.
01:24:51
Steve-O
Oh, yeah.
01:24:53
billfrankenstein
Gonna be slamming some hoes in it.
01:24:53
unc leon
um ah more The more interesting thing about...
01:24:53
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah, dude.
01:24:57
unc leon
and Dude, this is... We're throw some shade at the Resident Evil team again. But like what we're so what we're learning about the game right now is that it's split between fucking RE2 style, super scary, alien,
01:25:13
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:25:15
unc leon
And then already four aliens, like, and it's going to go back and forth between them. I think that's a cool selling point. I think that's great. I think that's, that'll keep things fresh, keep things zinned up, fucking moving, locked in.
01:25:27
unc leon
Right.
01:25:27
billfrankenstein
You get a little scared.
01:25:28
unc leon
That's pretty cool.
01:25:29
billfrankenstein
You get a little survival scared.
01:25:30
unc leon
That, right.
01:25:31
billfrankenstein
And then all of a sudden, boom!
01:25:31
unc leon
And then you, and then you're just like, I got to release all this fucking, all this calm.
01:25:33
billfrankenstein
reck ordered him um
01:25:36
unc leon
But like, the thing is like, fucking like, you know, like that should be the selling, the dual, the dual types of horror.
01:25:37
BeyBlade
yeah
01:25:45
unc leon
Flip-flopping is such a better selling point than switching from first person to third person. they didn't even mention that this time, so maybe that's not really going to be a big thing.
01:25:54
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:25:54
Steve-O
It's it's surprising that they didn't like use that as they're like you play as um Ashcroft Grace in in first person and then when it's Leon time it's party time.
01:25:56
unc leon
But like...
01:26:06
unc leon
Yeah, that would make more sense, right? Wouldn't that make more sense?
01:26:08
Steve-O
hmm. Yeah.
01:26:09
unc leon
Because that was kind of like Resident Evil Village, where it's like, Oh, when you're Chris, you're a fucking psycho killer. So of course you're going be in third person. so you can three P and you can, you, you're more tune with your surroundings.
01:26:18
Steve-O
right
01:26:22
unc leon
So it makes more sense to play the game that style when you're Chris Redfield, psycho killer.
01:26:24
BeyBlade
Thank
01:26:28
unc leon
And then when you're fucking useless, dumb, dumb boy, Ethan winners, you're from first person and, and pouring Robitussin on your, on your, cut yeah.
01:26:36
billfrankenstein
You talking about fungus man? Mold man?
01:26:38
unc leon
When,
01:26:39
billfrankenstein
Mold man. Excuse me.
01:26:39
unc leon
where he's Where he's pouring Robitussin all over his fucking cut hand the whole game.
01:26:43
billfrankenstein
I'm full of mold.
01:26:45
unc leon
but You know, like, like, why, why don't, and then, and then you have two experiences that are kind of optimized for that type of experience as opposed to letting the fucking idiot gamer choose between one and the other in real time in the game, but through a pause menu, you know, like that.
01:26:46
billfrankenstein
I got it. Yeah, I know.
01:27:04
unc leon
I think maybe, hopefully... I mean, I don't know. i don i don't I can't see them changing their tune so late because the game comes out in a couple months.
01:27:10
Steve-O
I don't think. Yeah.
01:27:11
unc leon
But like but like that would have been a better way to describe it. like You play this part in first person. It's supposed to be scarier. It's supposed to be slower. It's supposed to be more immersive.
01:27:21
Steve-O
And maybe when you beat it, you can unlock it like as a toggle.
01:27:24
unc leon
Yeah.
01:27:25
unc leon
Yeah, because like in
01:27:25
billfrankenstein
Or maybe, yeah, it could be you could be have to play it twice, too, where you could play it one through one way, like Resident Evil 2, where you start as Ashcroft and you play as Leon, or vice versa, you know?
01:27:37
Steve-O
that would be That would be kind of wild where it's like you play as Grace at the beginning and then it's like they called in Leon to go get Grace.
01:27:39
unc leon
just just don't like the yeah i just don't I just don't like the idea of like of the possibility of the experience being dumbed down because and like not optimal, the suboptimal, because of that feature, quote-unquote, of being able to switch, you know?
01:27:43
billfrankenstein
Yeah, exactly.
01:27:44
Steve-O
but
01:27:45
billfrankenstein
That could be the case.
01:28:01
Steve-O
It's Capcom is very strange. And I think this is a very unique thing with the modern Resident Evil games, because it seems like the games that are progressing the series, like seven, eight, and nine, while they are good, they are,
01:28:16
Steve-O
not like the excellent, like they're not like the 9.3s and 9.2s that like Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 4 remakes got.
01:28:27
Steve-O
So it's very interesting that they are, they kind of put their like their S tier devs on the remake games while this one, i'm I'm hoping they put some of the S tier people on there, but.
01:28:27
unc leon
Yeah.
01:28:38
billfrankenstein
I feel like Resident Evil 7 and Village, like, they have really great moments.
01:28:45
Steve-O
Mm hmm.
01:28:46
billfrankenstein
But, like, as a whole, they're not... it' They're not <unk> not, like, the whole thing isn't as good.
01:28:49
unc leon
They don't compare to the, they don't compare to the classic. Yeah.
01:28:54
billfrankenstein
Like, the pieces are good.
01:28:54
Steve-O
set Seven is excellent until you get up to that boat section.
01:28:54
unc leon
Yeah.
01:28:58
billfrankenstein
Right.
01:28:58
unc leon
Yeah.
01:28:59
Steve-O
And
01:28:59
billfrankenstein
And 8, the whole, you know, the puppeteer...
01:29:00
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:29:02
Steve-O
after the dollhouse, I think.
01:29:03
unc leon
And Vill- yeah, Village, they- Village, they fucking- yeah, in Village, they fucking- they hype up ah Lady D and the castle and everything, and then you're and then it's over.
01:29:04
billfrankenstein
Yeah, the dollhouse is wonderful. And then after that...
01:29:06
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:29:13
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:29:14
Steve-O
It's such a small nothing burger after that.
01:29:14
billfrankenstein
that's
01:29:14
unc leon
And then it's over after after a third of the movie, or the game.
01:29:16
Steve-O
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
01:29:17
billfrankenstein
The dollhouse you don't expect and that's wonderful.
01:29:17
unc leon
So...
01:29:21
billfrankenstein
And then, yeah, it just becomes extreme.
01:29:23
unc leon
No, and then and then you get the Chris Redfield moment, and I i think that's- I think it's exciting that
01:29:27
billfrankenstein
I'm building this big tank!
01:29:30
Steve-O
build a tank in the basement.
01:29:30
unc leon
thinking I think it's exciting that half the game is going to be like that, you know?
01:29:34
billfrankenstein
That's silly.
01:29:34
unc leon
Where it's going to be like, okay, it's fucking... It's like Megabonk. It's like Swarm Mode. Okay, it's Leon time. And then we're just going to shred everything.
01:29:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:29:41
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:29:42
unc leon
And then it's like, oh, now it's scary.
01:29:42
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:29:44
Steve-O
I want him to do a spin kick, and I want it to hurt.
01:29:44
unc leon
Scary time.
01:29:49
unc leon
I just... like yeah He's so perfect. He's got a Porsche. He's He's fucking... He's got Barry Burton's gun. He's got a fucking throwing axe.
01:29:49
billfrankenstein
He's picking up every weapon he finds and using it.
01:29:58
billfrankenstein
Did he have his knife? anyway he He doesn't have his knife, right?
01:30:00
unc leon
No, he's got throwing acts now.
01:30:01
billfrankenstein
got his axe.
01:30:02
unc leon
They didn't show that. I mean, dude, maybe the knife is going to be a big thing. Maybe it's going to be Devin.
01:30:07
Steve-O
It
01:30:08
unc leon
Don't don't get mad when I say this, but maybe it's going to be like the God of War moment where he gets his his his chains of his chains of chaos.
01:30:08
BeyBlade
What?
01:30:13
billfrankenstein
You're going
01:30:17
BeyBlade
What, when he when he finds and when he finds the knife?
01:30:17
billfrankenstein
to remember all the
01:30:18
unc leon
but he
01:30:21
billfrankenstein
When did we find out that he killed his whole family too before Resident Evil 2.
01:30:22
unc leon
yeah He's like, oh, wait it's like the Drake computer beam. He's like oh, wait, I have my knife.
01:30:26
BeyBlade
It's going to unlock an entire new section of gameplay.
01:30:28
unc leon
i I have my knife.
01:30:29
BeyBlade
What?
01:30:30
unc leon
I can just parry everything.
01:30:31
Steve-O
But the thing that is interesting is because it's like he's using a bunch of weapons that like the Las Plagas used.
01:30:31
unc leon
i forgot.
01:30:39
billfrankenstein
Uh-huh.
01:30:39
unc leon
Well, i mean, did you see? i think he's got some kind of disease that they're trying to...
01:30:44
billfrankenstein
He's got the lost blog. I suppose it is.
01:30:46
BeyBlade
let's pla us
01:30:46
unc leon
I don't know if it's Las Plagas, but like he's got some neck veins, and then like there's ah there's a screenshot of him looking at like x-rays and um MRIs of
01:30:48
BeyBlade
He's got some neck grodiness. Yeah.
01:30:59
unc leon
people that are fucking dying of shit and it's like oh it's probably that
01:31:02
BeyBlade
Yeah. What if he's just don't know if that's the real concern.
01:31:06
Steve-O
He's only 38, man.
01:31:07
unc leon
i kind of i kind of like the theory that grace is his daughter i think that would be cool but i that's just because i'm a last of us guy so maybe that's why i'm i'm no nope
01:31:12
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, right.
01:31:16
Steve-O
Did any of you guys play Outbreak Files? Any of those PlayStation 2 Outbreak Files stuff?
01:31:23
BeyBlade
No, those are the online are the multiplayer ones, right?
01:31:26
Steve-O
Yeah, those those are the online ones, yeah.
01:31:26
BeyBlade
Or am I? No. No, because I'm a sucker.
01:31:30
Steve-O
but Yeah, I didn't have PlayStation Online back then, so...
01:31:33
BeyBlade
Yeah. Real quick, shout out. Covenant of the Chicken Foot. That looks dope.
01:31:39
unc leon
It looks awesome.
01:31:40
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's true.
01:31:40
BeyBlade
Looks really good.
01:31:41
billfrankenstein
That does look good.
01:31:41
BeyBlade
That's the Bruce Straley game.
01:31:44
unc leon
When's it coming out?
01:31:44
BeyBlade
Guy who did... a
01:31:45
unc leon
they Did they have a date?
01:31:45
BeyBlade
ah
01:31:49
BeyBlade
Let me click through. Let's see. Probably not. No, it's wish list now on Steam.
01:31:56
billfrankenstein
It looks like that game with the yeah the big furry dog in the ruins with the kid.
01:31:58
BeyBlade
Last
01:32:01
billfrankenstein
What the hell is that game called?
01:32:02
Steve-O
Oh, um, Guardian.
01:32:05
BeyBlade
lost last Guardian.
01:32:05
billfrankenstein
Last Guardian?
01:32:06
Steve-O
Last Guardian. Yeah.
01:32:06
BeyBlade
Last Guardian. Yeah.
01:32:07
billfrankenstein
Last Guardian.
01:32:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah, I think, ah but it's going to be a lot less frustrating.
01:32:13
billfrankenstein
yeah
01:32:13
BeyBlade
I think just based off of who's who's designing it.
01:32:14
Steve-O
yeah
01:32:18
BeyBlade
I just want to do a quick shout out. I think 20, I think. This year into the foreseeable future, ah future, we're in the age of absolute units being like the design.
01:32:34
BeyBlade
it it seems to be the preferred design moving forward. Whether that's absolute Batman, ah the the main character in Gang of Dragon World, the character in the the No Law game trailer.
01:32:41
Steve-O
Uh
01:32:45
Steve-O
Yeah, 100%.
01:32:51
billfrankenstein
Yeah, the big mustache guy
01:32:51
unc leon
Yeah.
01:32:53
BeyBlade
Yeah, the big mustache guy.
01:32:53
unc leon
Big bro.
01:32:54
BeyBlade
like It just seems like big unit motherfuckers is going to be the ah visual language in the next, you know, moving forward until something new comes out.
01:33:01
billfrankenstein
You know, that... That
01:33:05
billfrankenstein
know-all guy, he looks like if you plugged in, like, Muscular Mario and AI and you got that.
01:33:10
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:33:13
billfrankenstein
Like, that's...
01:33:13
BeyBlade
Yeah, man. It's just like, there's another one that I'm not thinking of either, where it's just like, it's big honking unit, man. Just ready to fuck your life up. And I'm like, I'm here for it, dude.
01:33:24
Steve-O
Is that um the Gang of Dragon guy? Is that the Train to Busan guy?
01:33:29
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:33:29
unc leon
Yeah, I'm pretty sure him.
01:33:30
Steve-O
Okay, it is.
01:33:30
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:33:30
billfrankenstein
Yeah, dude.
01:33:30
Steve-O
it is i thought I thought they looked familiar. So that's awesome.
01:33:33
unc leon
That's why I love that, dude.
01:33:34
billfrankenstein
The father. He's the father on the train, my friend. all love him.
01:33:38
unc leon
Wait, so you're saying I don't have to play Yakuza?
01:33:39
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:33:41
unc leon
I can just play that?
01:33:42
BeyBlade
If you want, yeah. I mean, if you want to get a...
01:33:43
Steve-O
there's definitely There's definitely certain Yakuza's.
01:33:44
BeyBlade
ah
01:33:45
Steve-O
You play Zero, maybe one of the new RPG ones, but...
01:33:49
unc leon
I have zero.
01:33:51
BeyBlade
Maybe you should try...
01:33:51
unc leon
My cousin bought it for me.
01:33:52
BeyBlade
Just take zero for a test drive.
01:33:52
Steve-O
I mean, hey, here's the thing. The Director's Cut comes out on... Actually, it's already out, I think, so...
01:34:00
unc leon
Oh yeah people were yeah, you were saying that it's like different whatever.
01:34:03
Steve-O
People are upset by it because...
01:34:05
unc leon
Yeah.
01:34:05
Steve-O
Yakuza Zero.
01:34:05
unc leon
i like
01:34:05
BeyBlade
Which one?
01:34:07
unc leon
At the the update or whatever to this.
01:34:08
Steve-O
Yeah. yeah
01:34:10
BeyBlade
Oh, really? Interesting.
01:34:13
unc leon
Oh, interesting. I can hate it.
01:34:14
BeyBlade
Interesting.
01:34:15
unc leon
I can hate that on it.
01:34:16
Steve-O
Oh, I can hate on those.
01:34:16
unc leon
hate on it
01:34:17
BeyBlade
or love hating things.
01:34:17
Steve-O
Oh.
01:34:23
BeyBlade
ah Shoutouts Total War Warhammer. That's pretty sick.
01:34:27
billfrankenstein
Oh, breaking news.
01:34:27
BeyBlade
Uh-oh.
01:34:28
billfrankenstein
Two found dead in the home of Carl or Rob Reiner.
01:34:32
Steve-O
Rob.
01:34:33
billfrankenstein
Jesus said Carl Reiner. Two found dead in the home of Rob Reiner.
01:34:39
BeyBlade
re Oh, no.
01:34:39
Steve-O
It sounds like it is, unfortunately, Rob Reiner and his wife.
01:34:42
BeyBlade
Rob Reiner.
01:34:43
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's not great.
01:34:44
BeyBlade
Oh, no.
01:34:46
billfrankenstein
Carbon monoxide, maybe. That's pretty brutal.
01:34:48
BeyBlade
Maybe.
01:34:48
Steve-O
It sounds like they called the ah robbery division. So it might have been a break in.
01:34:53
BeyBlade
Oh, God.
01:34:54
billfrankenstein
Shit, that's awful.
01:34:54
BeyBlade
Awful.
01:34:56
billfrankenstein
ah poor Rob Reiner I like Rob Reiner I like Misery I like Spinal Tap and that just came out the sequel to this is Spinal Tap he's in that crazy sad news meathead
01:35:00
Steve-O
everybody.
01:35:01
BeyBlade
RIP Rob Reiner. ah real one.
01:35:04
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:35:07
Steve-O
This is breaking.
01:35:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, you're right.
01:35:08
Steve-O
oh
01:35:09
BeyBlade
You're right.
01:35:17
BeyBlade
We're going to bring it down, Chris. I was about to talk about Star Wars Galactic Racer and you just bummed me out.
01:35:21
billfrankenstein
it's everywhere
01:35:23
BeyBlade
It's everywhere. Yeah.
01:35:25
billfrankenstein
what do you want me to do
01:35:26
BeyBlade
ah Ignore the bad things. Only focus on the good things.
01:35:30
Steve-O
Devin's like, let's talk about Star Wars.
01:35:31
BeyBlade
ah I want to talk about Star Wars burnout.
01:35:34
billfrankenstein
that A non-pod racer racer from Star Wars?
01:35:34
BeyBlade
We're fine.
01:35:35
unc leon
What
01:35:38
billfrankenstein
Are you kidding me? Really?
01:35:39
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:35:39
unc leon
about FOTOR?
01:35:41
billfrankenstein
that breaks me down more.
01:35:41
unc leon
Oh, no.
01:35:41
Steve-O
i yeah I have more bad news.
01:35:42
BeyBlade
Check.
01:35:43
Steve-O
Sebulba has been found dead in his pod racer.
01:35:46
unc leon
oh no
01:35:46
BeyBlade
Oh, gosh.
01:35:47
billfrankenstein
They call the Jedi Division.
01:35:48
BeyBlade
God damn
01:35:49
Steve-O
Oh my God.
01:35:50
billfrankenstein
for Shit, it was a Jedi Division.
01:35:56
BeyBlade
it.
01:35:59
BeyBlade
ah gosh yeah damn it I will say the thing about the the Fates of the Old Republic premiere with Casey Hudson coming in, who he worked on the original.
01:36:10
BeyBlade
I just like that people were like, oh, we're not going to see this till like 2030. And he was quick to come out and be like, no, trust me, that's not the case. Like, we're going to get it, you know, before 2030 at the very least, which, you know.
01:36:24
Steve-O
He's like coming out before Mega Man overdrive.
01:36:26
BeyBlade
Coming out before, yeah. Coming out before I'm happy with Mega Man. How about that?
01:36:33
Steve-O
ah I was excited for you, Devin. You got a big dub with the Total War Warhammer announcement.
01:36:39
BeyBlade
Sort of. Yeah.
01:36:40
Steve-O
Oh, interesting.
01:36:41
billfrankenstein
but yeah These two had giant boners. yeah John had his during the Resident Evil Requiem trailer.
01:36:44
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:36:48
billfrankenstein
Dammit was sporting his during this Total War. And then he was like, but wait, hold on a second.
01:36:51
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:36:53
Steve-O
who ah Who announced this? Because they like it was like some celebrity and they were like...
01:36:56
BeyBlade
this has been a rumor for a minute.
01:36:58
billfrankenstein
It was Hopper.
01:36:58
BeyBlade
Uh, that was Hopper, dude.
01:36:59
Steve-O
It was. It was.
01:37:00
BeyBlade
David Harbour.
01:37:00
billfrankenstein
David probably bullying Warhammer players.
01:37:01
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:37:01
Steve-O
there's your...
01:37:01
Steve-O
Dude, there's your controversy.
01:37:02
BeyBlade
Well, I didn't realize he was a he was a Warhammer guy. It's
01:37:05
Steve-O
Make this all checks out now. It all makes sense. 11 paint my models.
01:37:08
BeyBlade
all me. Sex, sex addicted individuals being Warhammer fans. Hell yeah, brother. Yeah.
01:37:14
billfrankenstein
What do you call that role?
01:37:17
BeyBlade
Yeah. Um, no, it's, uh, listen, it's dope. i If I'm the Dawn of War guys, maybe I'm a little like, what the fuck?
01:37:31
BeyBlade
Because, you know, Dawn of War is also a RTS with Warhammer character. how At the same time, they're completely like different style games. Like the Total War games are not at all like the Starcrafts or the Dawn of Wars.
01:37:45
billfrankenstein
Aren't they very resource dependent?
01:37:50
BeyBlade
Yeah, I mean, I've never played it, and I never will, because you need some beastly machines that run those Total War games. And I don't have any machine that would run that.
01:38:00
billfrankenstein
That's why they're building a data center in here, in near us to play that game.
01:38:03
BeyBlade
In 40K.
01:38:04
Steve-O
Just one game.
01:38:06
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:38:06
BeyBlade
Yeah. ah So it's like, it's cool. Like, trust me. Like, i'm I'm very much pro... put out more Warhammer games because like it's good for everyone.
01:38:18
BeyBlade
It's good for everyone. If you're into like the fandom, maybe one day that means prices will drop or maybe just go on sale.
01:38:22
unc leon
Mm-hmm.
01:38:27
BeyBlade
I feel like if you're popular, things have to go on sale.
01:38:29
billfrankenstein
you Devin, you know what it is? I feel like it's like I'm kind of frustrated with with Warhammer and Warhammer 40k because it just seems like it's nipping at the margins. Like it's never it's never taken any deep cuts, you know, and I'm like, come on, you you could do it We all believe in you.
01:38:48
BeyBlade
what When you say like not taking deep cuts, like what do you mean I mean...
01:38:52
billfrankenstein
Movies, TV shows, AAA games, like big, big things. Like it's it's just sort of surrounding the margins. And I'm like, I think it's prime for this moment.
01:39:03
BeyBlade
in its It's getting... no i okay. And I agree because it's very much like Big Fish, Small Pond.
01:39:10
billfrankenstein
Right.
01:39:10
BeyBlade
We're getting there. um That being said, I mean like the the Amazon show slash movie...
01:39:16
billfrankenstein
Oh, do you really think that's happening?
01:39:18
BeyBlade
I mean, it hasn't not happened.
01:39:19
billfrankenstein
that's the frusttra That's the frustrating thing. Because I don't know why it's not. like I feel like it's the perfect time for it. I really do.
01:39:28
BeyBlade
Sort of.
01:39:29
billfrankenstein
It's like it's missing its it's it's it's window.
01:39:29
BeyBlade
dude it just Yeah. And in terms of the games, like I think Games Workshop, one of the problems that it's, that it's had is like, they've just said anyone who wants to make a game, here's, here's the IP, here's the IP anybody. So the IP as a whole, in terms of gaming has been like pretty muddled.
01:39:51
BeyBlade
Cause it's like for every space Marine two or bolt gun, there's like a bunch of bad ones, like a bunch of bad ones.
01:39:52
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's true.
01:39:57
billfrankenstein
Yeah, there's a lot of garbage.
01:39:59
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:39:59
billfrankenstein
It's just all garbage.
01:39:59
BeyBlade
A lot of garbage. No, at the same time it's been cleaned up, but like, And who knows how psychotic they are about like the rights, like, but you're right. I'm, I am waiting for that truly like triple a, I don't even know who, what studio would even make I, or not, not like a, what like game studio would,
01:40:15
billfrankenstein
Anything. Like movie...
01:40:21
billfrankenstein
Listen, they're making the Elder Ring movie before they're making a Warhammer movie. It just seems like those are both epic worlds.
01:40:29
BeyBlade
I know, but Chris, I look at a space marine and I just go, how do you do that without it being prohibitively prohibitively expensive?
01:40:38
billfrankenstein
um but Well, of course it'll be expensive.
01:40:38
BeyBlade
And to make it look good, yeah.
01:40:40
billfrankenstein
I mean, no, there's no doubt that it's going to be an expensive movie, TV show, or video game.
01:40:43
BeyBlade
It's like unfilmable in the sense of the content, right? It's like, yeah.
01:40:47
billfrankenstein
Ah, they said the same thing up about Lord of the Rings.
01:40:50
BeyBlade
And it took like 30 years for that to happen.
01:40:52
BeyBlade
And that's Lord of the Rings.
01:40:52
billfrankenstein
I know.
01:40:54
billfrankenstein
well Well, it's been around for a while and it's catching a lot of good steam.
01:40:57
unc leon
Thank
01:40:57
billfrankenstein
It just needs to jump in, man.
01:41:00
BeyBlade
and know Well, somebody's got to be willing to drop the bucks, dude. Because, like, yeah.
01:41:06
billfrankenstein
Yeah, we got a James Cameron to do it. He could he could make anything.
01:41:09
BeyBlade
And, like, listen, somebody mail James Cameron some Warhammer books.
01:41:10
billfrankenstein
I'm serious.
01:41:16
billfrankenstein
He could get anything greenlit.
01:41:16
BeyBlade
and
01:41:17
billfrankenstein
Like he literally went, he went to the board of directors for fucking what Disney.
01:41:18
BeyBlade
He could, yeah.
01:41:23
billfrankenstein
And he's like, are you guys afraid? Cause they were, they were hesitant of putting a marketing budget for this new avatar movie. And he's like, are you guys afraid of making billions of dollars? Like he literally said that to a group of people like investors and shit.
01:41:34
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:41:34
billfrankenstein
Like that's how things get made.
01:41:36
BeyBlade
Listen, man, do you know do you know how that would be the perfect scenario if James Cameron of everyone was like, I want to do it.
01:41:43
billfrankenstein
I know.
01:41:45
BeyBlade
But, you know, that's one guy who has to be willing to do it, and he's definitely busy for the next decade making blue people. And, hey, I can't – I can only deal with – And eventually, i do think about this because it's kind of one of those things where I just go like, I should enjoy the hobby in its space now, you know, before anyone can get to it.
01:42:00
Steve-O
Thank
01:42:14
BeyBlade
You know what I mean?
01:42:14
billfrankenstein
don't think anybody's getting to it.
01:42:15
BeyBlade
Before.
01:42:16
billfrankenstein
Not anytime soon, man.
01:42:18
BeyBlade
I mean, well, that's the thing, right? So I should enjoy it because goddamn it's people are already complaining about how it's homogenized. Now they're complaining.
01:42:25
billfrankenstein
you you just wait.
01:42:26
BeyBlade
Fucking let alone if like Disney gets hold of it.
01:42:28
billfrankenstein
but
01:42:29
BeyBlade
You know what I'm saying? Like they don't even know. So I'm just enjoying it, man. I'm enjoying my little drip feeds.
01:42:37
billfrankenstein
Go into a Disney World Warhammer section. section
01:42:40
BeyBlade
I'm still waiting for Stardust 2, Chris.
01:42:42
billfrankenstein
Where you gotta to eat gruel and and grease. Big pot of grease.
01:42:46
BeyBlade
Dude.
01:42:46
billfrankenstein
Because you're on earth.
01:42:47
BeyBlade
Where you just get shot out of a drop pod the theme park ride.
01:42:50
billfrankenstein
That
01:42:52
Steve-O
Stardew Valley.
01:42:52
BeyBlade
That'd be sick of shit, dude.
01:42:54
billfrankenstein
would be cool.
01:42:55
BeyBlade
Like in going to dark Eldar, the homunculus chamber.
01:43:00
billfrankenstein
People have to be having these ideas. That's what like the other thing that bugs me.
01:43:03
BeyBlade
have these ideas. Yeah, I know. It's just like.
01:43:05
billfrankenstein
Like people in places of of power with media.
01:43:05
BeyBlade
a
01:43:07
BeyBlade
Listen, Chris, you give me a game genre, I can give you a video, a Warhammer game.
01:43:13
billfrankenstein
I understand. thats what
01:43:14
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:43:14
Steve-O
ardu valley
01:43:16
BeyBlade
Stardew Valley. um Necron tomb raiding, tomb building game. Or you're farming. Or no, or orc farmer.
01:43:26
BeyBlade
You're farming orcs because of the spores. Done.
01:43:30
billfrankenstein
it does slot into a lot of a lot of different genres.
01:43:30
Steve-O
All right, you got me. You got me.
01:43:33
BeyBlade
Yeah. i I can give you two different fighting games. I can give you a musu game. can give you a fighting game. I can give you another fighting game. I can give you mass effect game.
01:43:41
Steve-O
Kart racer?
01:43:43
BeyBlade
Kart racer? They basically already have one with orcs. I get orcs or they slot in anything. ah Orc, kart racer game, or just...
01:43:54
BeyBlade
They all have ah riding units, whether it's horses or jet bikes or bikes.
01:43:59
billfrankenstein
Like a cooking mama game, like a cooking sim.
01:44:03
BeyBlade
Cooking Sim. What could you do with a good cooking? Oh, Tyranids. ah Biomass.
01:44:09
billfrankenstein
Making biomass.
01:44:09
Steve-O
See, the thing is, it's like I can't argue with him because I don't know as much.
01:44:11
BeyBlade
Biomass.
01:44:14
BeyBlade
I'm telling you, they'll hold up to at least some level scrutiny.
01:44:16
billfrankenstein
Yeah. hit some some
01:44:17
Steve-O
Bellatro.
01:44:20
BeyBlade
Ooh.
01:44:23
BeyBlade
I mean, I don't really... what Is Bellatra... Is there anything outside of just... It's a card game?
01:44:27
Steve-O
like a deck builder.
01:44:30
BeyBlade
um oh a Death Builder game? Oh, they easy. It's the um the imperium the Imperium card game.
01:44:33
billfrankenstein
Maybe chapters of Space Marines.
01:44:37
BeyBlade
that warhammer
01:44:40
billfrankenstein
Oh, boy.
01:44:40
Steve-O
A survival horror game where the beginning of it, you play as like a first time FBI desk worker. But then the second part of it, you play as roughneck Leon Kennedy.
01:44:56
BeyBlade
So you're just saying...
01:44:57
billfrankenstein
Obviously, that's a play for you. That's funny.
01:45:00
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:45:00
billfrankenstein
I know the door's talking.
01:45:01
Steve-O
ah We already have Space Marine 2. Duh.
01:45:06
BeyBlade
Yeah, so so you're just explaining Commissar Yarek in the Second War of Armageddon.
01:45:09
Steve-O
Oh, sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry, Eric.
01:45:11
BeyBlade
Thank you. Thank you.
01:45:12
Steve-O
Dang, I got All right.
01:45:16
BeyBlade
ah or What is the deck of...
01:45:17
Steve-O
right. We need to step away from Warhammer, else Devin will explode.
01:45:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he'll blow up.
01:45:23
Steve-O
Is there anything else we want to talk about, TGA, or or should we move on to other things? Because, you know, we still...
01:45:28
unc leon
Move on. move on
01:45:29
billfrankenstein
I think we've we've covered we've covered everything there.
01:45:32
Steve-O
Let's talk about this.
01:45:32
BeyBlade
So yeah, Emperor's Tarot 78 card deck of Psychoactive with the Crystal Wafers Divinity Nation.
01:45:37
Steve-O
Oh my God, dude.
01:45:37
billfrankenstein
Oh, Jesus.
01:45:37
Steve-O
We just, Rain Man just showed up.
01:45:38
billfrankenstein
See what I mean? He's going to pop. He's gonna bop.
01:45:40
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:45:41
BeyBlade
<unk>tro I don't fucking know.
01:45:42
Steve-O
Let's, let's go through some of these trailers. Cause I think we got some big trailers this week.
01:45:45
BeyBlade
Yeah, we got a juicy one, dude. We got ah a particularly juicy one that I'm a fan of. i think we're all big fans of it.
01:45:54
billfrankenstein
Ready or not to.
01:45:55
BeyBlade
That Supergirl trailer.
01:45:56
billfrankenstein
Oh, sorry.
01:45:59
BeyBlade
Fuck you, Chris. We don't have... I mean, if we want to go in order, sure. But ah you want to just talk about the Supergirl trailer real quick?
01:46:07
billfrankenstein
Oh, well, yeah.
01:46:08
Steve-O
Sure.
01:46:09
BeyBlade
That could have used a little bit more Lobo trailer.
01:46:09
billfrankenstein
Sure.
01:46:09
billfrankenstein
All
01:46:13
unc leon
Yeah.
01:46:13
billfrankenstein
right.
01:46:14
Steve-O
It's no street fighter.
01:46:17
unc leon
Oh, yeah, we didn't talk about that.
01:46:18
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
01:46:18
Steve-O
We don't need to talk about it.
01:46:20
billfrankenstein
It's like, let's go from both extremes here.
01:46:20
Steve-O
Let's just.
01:46:23
billfrankenstein
The Supergirl 2 trailer being great and really excited for it. um I like the aesthetics. I like what the world is looking like.
01:46:34
BeyBlade
You know what's funny is this looks more guardian this book looks more...
01:46:35
unc leon
But it looks like Guardians.
01:46:37
BeyBlade
It does look more Guardians than like... like If you were to say James Gunn's directing this, I'm like, oh, that makes sense. But...
01:46:45
billfrankenstein
um It's got a, it's it's more of a Western feel to it, sort of, I think.
01:46:49
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:46:52
BeyBlade
Yeah, I would agree. um Yeah, it's but it's based off the ah the story that I think most, if not all of us, have read. Yeah.
01:47:00
unc leon
They, um, there's a lot of that in this trailer.
01:47:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:47:04
unc leon
So I'm pretty happy about that, to be honest, that they really are adapting this.
01:47:07
BeyBlade
And
01:47:10
unc leon
It's not just like we're using some things from it.
01:47:10
BeyBlade
yeah.
01:47:12
unc leon
Like they're doing the actual woman of tomorrow story.
01:47:16
BeyBlade
Yeah. And like John, you put, you notified me of this. I don't know if this is the first time they've done it, but I'm a big fan of ending the trailer with the book it's based off of.
01:47:29
unc leon
Yeah, I've never seen that before.
01:47:30
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that's cool.
01:47:31
BeyBlade
That's, that's cool, dude. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
01:47:33
billfrankenstein
I think most people should read that.
01:47:33
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:47:33
BeyBlade
Well,
01:47:35
billfrankenstein
I think it's Woman of Tomorrow is wonderful.
01:47:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:47:37
billfrankenstein
I think it's it's a really great story about um passion and compassion, you know, like caring about one another.
01:47:48
billfrankenstein
Also empathy, but also like not not expecting not accepting people's bullshit and standing up for yourself, like all these really wonderful things.
01:47:51
unc leon
Also, True Grit.
01:47:56
BeyBlade
yeah
01:48:00
billfrankenstein
That Supergirl is unique at at telling that story. Not Clark, but her. And yeah, it makes it pretty clear in the trailer when she says, you know, Clark sees the good in people. I see, what is it, the truth?
01:48:14
BeyBlade
I see the truth.
01:48:15
billfrankenstein
Which is cool.
01:48:15
BeyBlade
said
01:48:16
billfrankenstein
That's very much the the heart of the of the story.
01:48:16
BeyBlade
Yeah, it's a good line.
01:48:21
billfrankenstein
And there's one scene in particular that if they fuck it up, I'm going to be very upset. And that is the... bathroom scene, which Kara teaches, what's her name?
01:48:31
billfrankenstein
Ruthie? Ruthie, how to wash her hands.
01:48:32
unc leon
Ruthie.
01:48:34
billfrankenstein
And it's just a really wonderful...
01:48:35
unc leon
Yeah. that's definitely goodnna That's definitely gonna be in the in the movie.
01:48:36
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:48:39
unc leon
I would be really surprised if they don't have that in the movie.
01:48:39
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:48:42
billfrankenstein
It's...
01:48:42
BeyBlade
I mean, maybe.
01:48:42
unc leon
Because this not only is it like
01:48:43
BeyBlade
Those are the scenes that you got to fight for, man. I feel like when you're when you're making these.
01:48:48
unc leon
Yeah, but the fact that James Gunn is the boss of this makes me feel makes me feel like it's going to be in there.
01:48:52
billfrankenstein
It's gotta be in there.
01:48:56
unc leon
Because it's really important.
01:48:58
billfrankenstein
Yes, it is.
01:48:58
unc leon
it's like it's very It's really low budget, and it's really important to the to the entire theme of it.
01:49:03
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:49:04
billfrankenstein
It's all character development. it's It's wonderful character development, too.
01:49:08
unc leon
Yeah. I'd be really pretty disappointed if they if they don't have it in this. and this
01:49:12
billfrankenstein
Yeah, me too. But like I'm looking at the positives here. I like who they casted for Kara. I like, I guess Lobo's cool. I'm in there, sure.
01:49:24
billfrankenstein
Why not?
01:49:24
BeyBlade
Listen, I can't be mad at most of Jason Momoa's work.
01:49:25
billfrankenstein
Why not?
01:49:30
BeyBlade
like It's hard to be like, oh, again?
01:49:30
billfrankenstein
I can. Blanca. Blanca. but I can.
01:49:34
BeyBlade
Dude, even that, I was like, fucking...
01:49:35
billfrankenstein
Blanca. I like how he's at both ends of the spectrum in this scenario, by the way.
01:49:37
BeyBlade
Actually... yeah
01:49:41
billfrankenstein
Ugh.
01:49:42
BeyBlade
Yeah. Listen, do we think there's a universe... I do think there's a world where like Street Fighter is is weirdly entertaining just because it's so bonkers.
01:49:52
unc leon
Yeah, I mean, that's how I feel. I'm not expecting it to be, I'm not expecting it to be a like a good movie, but like, ah maybe if the people that are making it aren't either, then maybe they'll make it fun.
01:49:55
billfrankenstein
yeah
01:50:08
unc leon
But the but the the problem the problem is they they all look fucking stupid.
01:50:12
unc leon
Like, they all look stupid.
01:50:12
billfrankenstein
this this is the This is the problem, John.
01:50:13
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:50:14
billfrankenstein
it is very And this is what it feels like. It's very hard to make a bad movie. There are a lot of people that try to do it in order to make it entertaining. But that you can't do that on purpose.
01:50:27
billfrankenstein
And that's what it feels like. That's what this movie feels like.
01:50:29
BeyBlade
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Definitely feels like they're just going like, let's just go be as over the top and stupid as possible.
01:50:36
billfrankenstein
Right.
01:50:37
BeyBlade
And that should make it a good movie, which is... don't know.
01:50:41
unc leon
I mean, did you, go Devin, did you watch Minecraft or no?
01:50:44
BeyBlade
No. and And it's not because I refused.
01:50:45
unc leon
Okay.
01:50:47
BeyBlade
It's just...
01:50:48
unc leon
Because I feel like that they had the right idea, I guess.
01:50:49
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:50:52
unc leon
Like, again, that movie's not a great movie or it's not even really a good movie, but it's like fun and it doesn't take itself seriously.
01:51:01
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:51:01
unc leon
So I feel like if it's that kind of vibe, then maybe, um it'll be fun at least, but i don't know. They don't even have, they got Julian, they they got Julian in it, but they don't have to yawk, which kind of sucks.
01:51:09
billfrankenstein
I doubt. Doubt.
01:51:13
billfrankenstein
They got dumbass Schultz butthead being Dan.
01:51:16
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
01:51:17
billfrankenstein
They got stupid Giles haircut.
01:51:20
unc leon
Yeah. That's the problem. Yeah.
Film and Media Industry Speculations
01:51:23
unc leon
Schultz being fucking Dan Hibiki is like a huge issue.
01:51:25
billfrankenstein
Momoa Blanca.
01:51:25
BeyBlade
I think this movie's got a lot more problems than that guy being in it.
01:51:25
unc leon
And the fact that he got the fact that he got a microphone and got to say talk shit or whatever is like makes me even makes me even more cringe at that shit.
01:51:31
BeyBlade
Oh, yeah.
01:51:35
billfrankenstein
It's a lot of... 50 Cent is... That's so stupid looking. Dude, I don't know.
01:51:42
BeyBlade
Yeah, you look so dumb, dude.
01:51:43
billfrankenstein
I'm a long shot on this one, guys. That's that's basically what I'm saying.
01:51:46
BeyBlade
Nah, nah, this one... and i mean, listen... i'm um I'm out. I don't know if I'm hard out yet. I'm going to give it a second trailer.
01:51:55
unc leon
um I'm going to watch it because it's Street Fighter, but...
01:51:58
BeyBlade
But are you going to go to the theater to watch it you know?
01:52:01
unc leon
Maybe, like, it if it's... what Do you think it'll be PG-13? Or PG?
01:52:05
billfrankenstein
Maybe. Probably PG-13.
01:52:06
unc leon
if it's pg If it's PG, then i'll I'll take my son to see it with me.
01:52:11
billfrankenstein
Yeah, he might like it
01:52:12
BeyBlade
I don't think it's going to be PG.
01:52:12
unc leon
So, like, you think it's going to little bit more?
01:52:14
BeyBlade
Uh...
01:52:15
unc leon
Wait, what was Minecraft?
01:52:16
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude, Roman Reigns is in it, dude. He's a hardcore...
01:52:18
unc leon
What does that mean?
01:52:19
BeyBlade
response Nothing.
01:52:19
Steve-O
I mean, Roman Reigns and CM Punk were in Zootopia 2.
01:52:20
BeyBlade
just wanted to say Roman
01:52:24
billfrankenstein
it. Really?
01:52:24
unc leon
Yeah, they were.
01:52:24
Steve-O
Which, by the way, I saw it. I agree, John.
01:52:27
unc leon
oh wasn't it wasn't it good?
01:52:29
Steve-O
ah Just an absolute blast of a film.
01:52:29
unc leon
it was good, right? It was good.
01:52:31
billfrankenstein
Okay. All right.
01:52:32
Steve-O
good A good time.
01:52:33
billfrankenstein
You've seen the first one?
01:52:33
unc leon
it's your turn.
01:52:34
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:52:34
billfrankenstein
Steve, you've seen the first one? Okay.
01:52:35
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:52:35
billfrankenstein
Okay.
01:52:35
BeyBlade
Trust me, ill
01:52:35
Steve-O
Oh, yeah.
01:52:36
unc leon
No, but it's like, it's surprising. It's the same fucking thing as the first one where it's like, yeah, I don't know what to expect. And then it's like, oh, this is actually a pretty good movie.
01:52:43
Steve-O
That's a fun ride. Yeah.
01:52:44
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I like the first one quite a bit, actually.
01:52:46
unc leon
Yeah, so I think you'll like this one.
01:52:46
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:52:46
billfrankenstein
I'm surprised.
01:52:48
unc leon
Yo, do you agree with me?
01:52:50
BeyBlade
I'm not worried about it being bad.
01:52:52
unc leon
Do you agree with me, Steve, that they made Shakira's llama gazelle character like too sexy? She was like really fucking...
01:52:58
billfrankenstein
They made her too sexy in the first movie.
01:52:59
Steve-O
there's something there's There's something going on in that credit sequence. They were on something.
01:53:02
unc leon
I was like, bro.
01:53:03
Steve-O
I don't know. I don't know what they were thinking.
01:53:04
BeyBlade
Wait, wait, they were on something or they were on to something.
01:53:05
unc leon
It's a good song. It's a good song.
01:53:08
Steve-O
They were on something.
01:53:09
unc leon
I think that Sheeran wrote that song.
01:53:09
BeyBlade
okay
01:53:11
Steve-O
Yeah, Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran.
01:53:13
unc leon
It's a good song.
01:53:14
BeyBlade
and Ed Shakirin.
01:53:14
unc leon
yes yes Yeah. Devin, go watch Tutopia. I think i think you might enjoy it.
01:53:18
BeyBlade
Dude, I want to.
01:53:19
billfrankenstein
I'm in. I'm going to see it.
01:53:19
BeyBlade
i hour
01:53:20
billfrankenstein
um' um I'm down to see it, too.
01:53:22
BeyBlade
my
01:53:23
unc leon
Yeah.
01:53:23
BeyBlade
I'm off tomorrow.
01:53:24
unc leon
Solid.
01:53:24
BeyBlade
Maybe I will. Going goon in the theater by myself.
01:53:28
unc leon
Yeah, this is a but this is this this a good song.
01:53:31
BeyBlade
Yeah. um
01:53:32
unc leon
Is it as good as K-pop Demon Hunter songs? No. But it's good.
01:53:37
BeyBlade
Okay. All right. Now we can probably take it from the top. ah
01:53:42
billfrankenstein
Take a moment.
01:53:43
BeyBlade
And this is from a few. So we're looking a few weeks old.
01:53:46
billfrankenstein
This is from a fugue state that Devin had.
01:53:48
BeyBlade
A few weeks ago, there was that 28 years later, The Bone Temple, like a new trailer. um
01:53:55
billfrankenstein
Okay.
01:53:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, okay. Yeah, sure. Why not?
01:53:58
billfrankenstein
I'm in.
01:53:58
BeyBlade
ah Like the first one, mostly. ah Ready or not 2, here I come.
01:54:05
billfrankenstein
Okay.
01:54:06
BeyBlade
i I like the first one. It's kind of, you know, what do you say?
01:54:09
Steve-O
I'm noticing a theme here.
01:54:11
BeyBlade
Oh, there's a new trailer for Romeo is a Dead Man, which is a pseudo-
01:54:15
Steve-O
ah This is what's his name? Suda, right? Yeah.
01:54:18
BeyBlade
Yeah, Grasshopper Studios.
01:54:20
unc leon
Pseudo51.
01:54:21
BeyBlade
ah Yeah, the guy's kind of a maniac. um You know what?
01:54:26
unc leon
He's kind of a goat. He's kind of a goat.
01:54:28
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:54:29
unc leon
He's a legend.
01:54:30
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:54:31
billfrankenstein
Always give him a shot.
01:54:31
BeyBlade
And his trailer, they're just, yeah. At the very least, I'm always going to be kind of interested.
01:54:34
unc leon
Yeah, it's Pseudo51, dog.
01:54:37
BeyBlade
You know, it's just like,
01:54:38
billfrankenstein
I thought one of the game trailers during the game awards was a pseudo game.
01:54:43
BeyBlade
I, yeah, yeah.
01:54:44
unc leon
Oh, it's a pseudo-like. They're carrying the torch for pseudo-likes for two years now.
01:54:46
billfrankenstein
Sudo like.
01:54:46
BeyBlade
Pseudo, pseudo-like, yeah.
01:54:47
Steve-O
Thank you.
01:54:50
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, what was that?
01:54:52
unc leon
When was the last time you played a game like Killer7, Chris?
01:54:53
BeyBlade
getting
01:54:56
unc leon
Never, right? It's a very unique experience, that game.
01:54:58
BeyBlade
Oh, wait, did you see...
01:54:59
billfrankenstein
Yeah, no, there's there's very few games like that.
01:55:00
BeyBlade
Wait, John, did you see some some mod where somebody's like, oh, there's new footage of ah Leon in RE9, and it's like Leon in a wheelchair? Like... He's basically in the killer seven wheelchair and he's just fighting people.
01:55:11
unc leon
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
01:55:14
BeyBlade
And i'm like, hell yeah. Um, let's see if there's any more trailer discussions before we jump in. Oh, the boys, uh, boys got a final season trail. Am I the only one you who's stuck with that?
01:55:30
billfrankenstein
Stuck with it?
01:55:30
unc leon
I guess, yeah.
01:55:31
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, did, did you guys all fall off?
01:55:32
billfrankenstein
Oh, yeah, i've I finished the last season and it's in its entirety.
01:55:35
BeyBlade
Okay. Okay.
01:55:37
billfrankenstein
It's okay.
01:55:37
BeyBlade
I'm not. I like it. i'm ah Yeah, I'm here.
01:55:41
billfrankenstein
It's not like...
01:55:41
BeyBlade
Like, again, kind of similar strength. Like, I'm here for that last season. Fuck it.
01:55:45
billfrankenstein
I guess, yeah, i'm I'm not going to not watch it.
01:55:46
BeyBlade
It's already better than the books ever were, you know?
01:55:49
billfrankenstein
I'd be like, yeah, that's a low bar.
01:55:51
BeyBlade
Well, the the book was great up until a very particular point. And then you're like, what is this?
01:55:58
billfrankenstein
I think I stopped reading that after like 10 issues. I just wasn't doing anything. It felt like a lot wanking off.
01:56:04
BeyBlade
um Honestly, that was the yeah entertaining part. It's the part where it turns in into this really odd, clunky, political thriller-type book that like is really where it falls off.
01:56:08
billfrankenstein
Hmm.
01:56:18
BeyBlade
and You're like, this sucks, dude. ah There's also a teaser for Avatar the Last Airbender Season 2 Netflix.
01:56:26
unc leon
Oh yeah.
01:56:28
BeyBlade
You see Toth. You see Azula.
01:56:30
billfrankenstein
Okay.
01:56:33
billfrankenstein
All right.
01:56:34
BeyBlade
looks Yeah, man. I mean,
01:56:36
billfrankenstein
I'm in. i i I'm in. I'm locked in.
01:56:40
BeyBlade
you're in
01:56:41
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I'm locked in. I watched the last season.
01:56:42
unc leon
ah yeah
01:56:43
billfrankenstein
um
01:56:43
BeyBlade
Yeah, that was, ah you know, that was a weird show because like, I think I just like relatively recently finished the show, like the cart, the cartoon.
01:56:44
billfrankenstein
Give it to me.
01:56:52
BeyBlade
ah And then like, I watched the first episode and I was like, that is one for one. And I was like, I don't know if I need, I don't, I didn't need to watch it. You know what I mean?
01:57:01
billfrankenstein
It's fine.
01:57:02
BeyBlade
Um, And then, i yeah.
01:57:04
billfrankenstein
It's okay.
01:57:06
BeyBlade
And then there was a really big story that was followed with an even bigger story. But at the end of the day, all it really says is we have no idea what's going happen. And it's going to be like years before anything of substance comes from that. And that's Netflix officially buys Warner Brothers, which was preempted by Paramount complaining that Netflix was probably going to buy Warner Brothers, which then turned into what ah Paramount officially prompting a hostile bid takeover of Warner Brothers.
01:57:45
BeyBlade
And to just put it in very generic terms, what a hostile takeover is in this scenario is they are bypassing the board and they're speaking directly to the shareholders And they're like, don't you think this is a better deal?
01:58:05
BeyBlade
And as a result, they need to win over, i think, you know, over 50% of the shareholders as a result. So Warner Brothers has not officially responded to that yet.
01:58:19
BeyBlade
There's a whole bunch of other ways they can make this deal. Just string along poison pill method, all this stuff where they can kind of delete the shares and just make everything bad for everyone involved.
01:58:31
BeyBlade
ah So it's it's interesting. I mean, it's the mergers are always at the very least interesting to me.
01:58:39
billfrankenstein
i think it's I think it's pretty much done. I think Netflix has it in the bag.
01:58:43
BeyBlade
You think? You don't think...
01:58:44
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
01:58:44
BeyBlade
Well, I mean, the Paramount's officially... They're going for it. Like, they're officially going for it, but...
01:58:48
billfrankenstein
Well, I understand. But their bid is way under, and Netflix is mostly cash, so people are going to get paid.
01:58:54
BeyBlade
Yeah, but Paramount got a bunch of Saudi backing recently.
01:58:58
billfrankenstein
Oh, I understand, but it's not liquid.
01:58:58
unc leon
Yeah.
01:59:00
billfrankenstein
like Netflix is offering a lot of like actual cash, like money they can give them, not like properties and stuff.
01:59:04
unc leon
Who do we want to win this?
01:59:04
BeyBlade
Yeah. and
01:59:06
unc leon
Cause this is, this feels like uh, yeah, this feels like, uh, can they both lose?
01:59:07
billfrankenstein
Nobody...
01:59:09
BeyBlade
Yeah.
01:59:09
billfrankenstein
If either side wins.
01:59:10
BeyBlade
Nobody! Yeah.
01:59:11
billfrankenstein
If either side...
01:59:11
Steve-O
it's an a It's an AVP situation.
01:59:13
BeyBlade
Yeah, yeah people exactly.
01:59:16
billfrankenstein
ah
01:59:16
BeyBlade
Who wins? we lose ah Yeah, I mean...
01:59:23
billfrankenstein
It's not great. It's not great, guys. Any type of media merger is always bad for consumers. Especially this one. Because it's so big. So, I...
01:59:33
BeyBlade
I think it's the it's bigger than Disney buying Fox, I think.
01:59:38
billfrankenstein
Yeah, and it's pretty big.
01:59:39
BeyBlade
Or it's apparently, yeah.
01:59:40
billfrankenstein
And it's Netflix buying everything, too. So it's not just, like, part of company.
01:59:43
Steve-O
Yeah.
01:59:44
BeyBlade
No, no, no. Netflix isn't buying everything.
01:59:47
billfrankenstein
Oh, I thought they were.
01:59:47
BeyBlade
that's No, no. That's the difference. Paramount wants everything because they want CNN. Netflix doesn't want the new the news. They don't want the TV channel.
01:59:55
billfrankenstein
Yeah, they did actually say that the Warner Brothers game division was useless. They didn't want that.
02:00:00
BeyBlade
Yeah, i don't I feel like that's a bit more of a headline than it really is. because I think they were just like, yeah, we didn't like... They didn't buy it for the game division. I think they just bought it for the IP and that comes with the game division.
02:00:12
billfrankenstein
It's pretty damning when a company says that. We don't care about a big section of the company.
02:00:18
Steve-O
I mean, they sent out those emails to anybody who had Netflix this week.
02:00:23
BeyBlade
did they?
02:00:24
Steve-O
Yeah, there is a hold on.
02:00:25
BeyBlade
I didn't get I didn't read my email I guess
02:00:25
Steve-O
I'll read it to you. Let
02:00:28
billfrankenstein
Suckers! That's what it says.
02:00:30
BeyBlade
that
02:00:30
Steve-O
let me pull it up real quick.
02:00:31
BeyBlade
Suckers was it basically like meet the new boss same as the old boss nothing's gonna change
02:00:32
Steve-O
But
02:00:36
Steve-O
ah welcome to our welcoming Warner Bros.
02:00:37
unc leon
Thank you.
02:00:39
Steve-O
to Netflix. ah Hi, Steve. We recently announced that Netflix will acquire Warner Bros., including its film and television studios, HBO Max and HBO. This unites our leading entertainment service with Warner Bros. iconic stories, bringing some of the world's most beloved franchises like Harry Potter, Friends, The Big Bang Theory, Casablanca, Game of Thrones and the DC universe together with stranger things, Wednesday, squid games, Bridgerton and K-pop demon hunters.
02:01:06
Steve-O
What's changing? Nothing is changing today. Both streaming services will continue to operate separately. We have more steps to complete before the deal is closed, including regulatory and shareholder approvals. You'll hear from us when we have more to share in the meantime, we hope you'll continue to enjoy watching as much as you want, whenever you want all on your current membership plan. We know you might have questions. Check out our help center.
02:01:30
Steve-O
So, yeah.
02:01:31
billfrankenstein
Check out the help center.
02:01:32
BeyBlade
Yeah, I think realistically, you're not going to see any, like, assuming the Paramount bid fails, right, and just Netflix goes with it, ah you're not, nothing's going to remotely be affected until, 2028.
02:01:46
BeyBlade
So so just just sit pretty, continue paying for dual income.
02:01:49
Steve-O
Do you think they will shutter Max? Yeah.
02:01:54
billfrankenstein
Eventually.
02:01:54
BeyBlade
I mean, why why wouldn't you, right, if you're Netflix?
02:01:55
billfrankenstein
Eventually. Like, I think the damage is already done to HPO. with the name changes back and forth.
02:02:03
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:02:03
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like outside of it's already existing, but like once you are fully integrated, why wouldn't you just, you know, eventually it will become the the this vestigial limb, right? It's like, we don't need it. Everything's on Netflix. Like there's going an HBO section on Netflix.
02:02:25
BeyBlade
Yeah. You're not, and all the things are going to go on Netflix. And eventually i think they will shutter it because it's,
02:02:33
BeyBlade
why pay for an entirely new or, you know, different streaming service as me, the viewer, and as them, the person who has to pay for those servers and data centers and all that.
02:02:45
BeyBlade
Like, and Netflix is probably ah a better streaming service. You know, I don't know exactly. i You know, I don't know that end of it, but like,
02:02:56
billfrankenstein
I'd say that's fair.
02:02:58
BeyBlade
Yeah, I mean, just in terms of like UI and all that stuff, it's just probably better. So it's... I do... Yeah, I think it's going to get shuttered. That probably wouldn't happen for even a couple years after that.
02:03:09
BeyBlade
You know, like Hulu is still a thing, right?
02:03:09
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:03:09
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:03:09
billfrankenstein
Yeah, it's like what they're doing with Dulu. Yeah.
02:03:12
BeyBlade
um Exactly. So that would still be a minute, but, you know...
02:03:17
billfrankenstein
I do think, though, the impact to theater releases it will will be... big and And regardless of what Netflix has been saying, I don't think they're going to let them act autonomously when it comes to, what is it, 60-day Windows?
02:03:33
billfrankenstein
For most of these releases, like, I just don't buy it.
02:03:34
Steve-O
yeah
02:03:34
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:03:37
billfrankenstein
He
02:03:37
BeyBlade
I feel like that man's family was murdered. The Netflix CEO's man's family was murdered in a theater.
02:03:42
Steve-O
You think it's Bruce Wayne?
02:03:42
BeyBlade
Like, yeah, I think he's Bruce Wayne.
02:03:44
Steve-O
you think
02:03:46
BeyBlade
But if Bruce Wayne directed...
02:03:47
billfrankenstein
he saw the that Zorro movie and he hated it and because it killed his parents.
02:03:50
BeyBlade
Yeah. If he directed his ire in the completely wrong direction, like Bruce Wayne would have been...
02:03:54
unc leon
Thank you.
02:03:56
billfrankenstein
You saw the Antonio Banderas Zorro movie, The Mask of the Zorro.
02:03:59
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, God damn it.
02:04:01
billfrankenstein
His parents got murdered.
02:04:02
BeyBlade
Don't you want to fight crime to avenge your family? No, because if I never went to this shitty movie theater, it wouldn't happened.
02:04:04
billfrankenstein
I
02:04:08
Steve-O
I'm going to create a streaming service.
02:04:10
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:04:10
billfrankenstein
also... The other...
02:04:12
Steve-O
So that way we don't have to leave the house.
02:04:12
BeyBlade
Kill the need, bro. Yeah, like...
02:04:15
billfrankenstein
also the other unfortunate thing is I think less movies will be made. Like, I think that has already already been pretty shown throughout the past couple of years.
02:04:21
BeyBlade
Yeah, we got it.
02:04:25
billfrankenstein
It's just less films coming out in general. So, yeah, I'm not neither. I mean, Paramount, would have been the same. Like, I don't i don't think either scenario there would have changed that.
02:04:40
billfrankenstein
Just sucks.
02:04:41
Steve-O
Hmm.
02:04:41
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:04:42
billfrankenstein
Just sucks.
02:04:43
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:04:43
billfrankenstein
That's all.
02:04:43
BeyBlade
And it's just like, i from my perspective, and I think a lot of people's perspectives, Paramount's, no one likes the owner of Paramount.
02:04:52
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that guy sucks.
02:04:53
BeyBlade
The Ellison's are, you know, they're, they're,
02:04:54
billfrankenstein
The Ellisons are awful. But like is Zaslav any better? Is Sarandos any better?
02:04:59
BeyBlade
Well, Zaslav is...
02:04:59
billfrankenstein
like
02:05:00
BeyBlade
I truly think Zaslav was hired and after like a year, he just set this... He set it up for sale.
02:05:07
billfrankenstein
Of course.
02:05:07
BeyBlade
I think... Because like, if you look at all the decisions that were being made, cutting everything, cutting movies like that were done and everything like that, he was just cutting costs to make it a more attractive purchase for these companies.
02:05:23
BeyBlade
And, you know, he did it. So he's going to get his his golden parachute. I don't think Zaslav's going really control anything ah moving forward.
02:05:34
BeyBlade
Also, just like, and then and then the fun question is, is in 10 years, who buys Warner Brothers next?
02:05:35
billfrankenstein
He's a hatchet man.
02:05:42
BeyBlade
Because Warner Brothers has been bought and sold and merged, I think, more than any other company.
02:05:46
Steve-O
It's like a snowball.
02:05:48
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
02:05:49
Steve-O
Warner Brothers, Time, AOL, AT&T.
02:05:54
BeyBlade
a Discovery, merger, like, it's crazy.
02:05:55
Steve-O
Yeah, it...
02:05:58
BeyBlade
It's like, no one wants it. or Or everything just really...
02:06:02
billfrankenstein
Well, there's a lot of debt associated with Warner Brothers, especially now.
02:06:05
Steve-O
And also you get the Animaniacs and those guys are a wild. Wild.
02:06:08
BeyBlade
Yeah, they can mess everything up.
02:06:08
billfrankenstein
You can't contain them. I don't even know how they kept them in that water tower for who knows how long.
02:06:13
Steve-O
They didn't.
02:06:13
billfrankenstein
like
02:06:13
Steve-O
They ran around that studio lot and caused mayhem.
02:06:17
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:06:17
billfrankenstein
Now it's fucking Netflix's problem. That's what Zaslav is saying right now.
02:06:20
BeyBlade
That's what he said.
02:06:22
billfrankenstein
He's giving them the keys. He's like, you go in that water tower. It's not just the Animaniacs in there.
02:06:27
Steve-O
Freakazoid's running around too, so.
02:06:30
unc leon
Thank you.
02:06:32
billfrankenstein
I wouldn't want buy that.
02:06:34
Steve-O
I like the idea that Game of Thrones was so bad. People are like, ugh, that last season is such a stinker.
02:06:38
billfrankenstein
yeah
02:06:40
Steve-O
We gotta get rid of this whole thing.
02:06:42
billfrankenstein
You know, the really sad part about that is um night Night of the Seven Kingdoms, that that show that's coming out, it's probably like some of the best work George R.R. Martin's ever done.
02:06:53
Steve-O
I've heard that.
02:06:54
billfrankenstein
And it's just, you know, it's the wrong time.
02:07:00
BeyBlade
Yeah. So, so Warner brothers merged with AOL and then they, time Warner cable spun off from that. Then they merged with AT&T.
02:07:12
BeyBlade
Then they merged with a discovery. So it was like 2000 something or like the early two thousands and then 2009, then 2018 and 2022.
02:07:23
Steve-O
Dude, AOL.
02:07:23
BeyBlade
then twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two And now 2026. You know, it's just like, God damn, dude.
02:07:33
Steve-O
They got out AOL at the the perfect time. They were like, sure, Warner, you could buy us.
02:07:37
BeyBlade
Well, AOL, the bubble burst as soon as they bought them.
02:07:40
Steve-O
You could buy us. Absolutely. They were like, we're gone.
02:07:42
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:07:43
Steve-O
We're out.
02:07:44
BeyBlade
Yeah, like the, um what's it called? The dot-com bubble burst.
02:07:46
billfrankenstein
TechBubble.com.
02:07:48
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
02:07:48
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah, and that was like 99, 2000, whenever that like officially happened.
02:07:54
billfrankenstein
Devin lost everything.
02:07:56
BeyBlade
I lost
02:07:57
Steve-O
I remember ah when that happened, the day that happened, I remember also being very mad at Hulk Hogan for joining the NWO.
02:08:08
BeyBlade
That was probably more of important that was more impactful.
02:08:08
billfrankenstein
That's the only you cared about?
02:08:09
Steve-O
Yeah. Yeah.
02:08:11
billfrankenstein
Of course it was.
02:08:12
Steve-O
um
02:08:14
BeyBlade
I'll be honest. If you put a gun to my head and ask me but but what the dot-com bubble really was, yeah.
02:08:16
billfrankenstein
The hate for Hulk Hogan still lasts. The dot-com bubble, nobody remembered that.
02:08:22
Steve-O
i had ah I had a dart board with Hulk Hogan's picture on it that I would throw darts at.
02:08:27
billfrankenstein
People still hate him, and he died.
02:08:29
Steve-O
Yeah, I mean, to be fair. guess Warner
02:08:31
BeyBlade
and And Steve, you're mad at a man who just resuscitated his career. That's all you're mad at. You're mad at a man who just found another way to make a living.
02:08:38
Steve-O
Brothers AOL Hogan. Yeah.
02:08:39
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:08:41
Steve-O
i guess like
02:08:41
BeyBlade
His stock was way down.
02:08:42
Steve-O
i guess so warner brothers aol l hogan
02:08:45
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:08:46
Steve-O
absolutely
02:08:47
BeyBlade
ah Yeah. ah Yeah. So just, it's interesting. It is. But it's just, a lot of people are going lose their jobs, which sucks.
02:08:58
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:08:59
BeyBlade
And, um, Your Netflix subscription will 1000% go up.
02:09:04
Steve-O
It will go up. Like it has gone up four times every year.
02:09:07
BeyBlade
Oh my God. What is yeah anyway, um Steve, did you watch the Kill Bill movie on Fortnite?
02:09:21
Steve-O
Um, I did, it's like a quick little cut scene. Um, but it,
02:09:25
BeyBlade
Did you go this puts, this ties it all together now.
02:09:28
Steve-O
No, like honestly, i didn't. But ah they definitely tried to do the um they tried to do the ah like the half animation thing that Spider-Verse and K-Pop Demon Hunters does.
02:09:41
BeyBlade
okay
02:09:41
Steve-O
um I mean, it's cool. It's cool that these characters are are tied to this. And it's cool that you know Quentin got to do a cut scene from Kill Bill ah using animation.
02:09:56
Steve-O
using animation And that Epic was willing to step up and do that.
02:10:00
billfrankenstein
think that was like an indicator of him losing his mind or is like.
02:10:04
BeyBlade
classic Paul Dano's a PUBG player.
02:10:04
Steve-O
I don't think so. Cause here's the thing it's like, cause then like Christopher Nolan, like
02:10:05
unc leon
Yeah.
Gaming Culture and Industry Trends
02:10:10
billfrankenstein
Hmm.
02:10:11
Steve-O
it's, it's it's weird how much like sway that like Christopher, like that Fortnite and Epic has over like premier film directors.
02:10:19
BeyBlade
I don't like it.
02:10:19
Steve-O
I wouldn't be surprised if it's like their kids have played this.
02:10:19
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:10:22
Steve-O
So they have heard the word Fortnite bumped around.
02:10:23
BeyBlade
Well, that and it's it's yeah. And it's eyeballs, right?
02:10:27
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:10:27
BeyBlade
Oh, you want to get a billion people to fucking know what your thing is.
02:10:31
Steve-O
The coolest thing from this is ah they did their like season close and like. they They opened up the new season and it's just like a bunch of Kill Bill characters. So it's like you get the bride. Go Go is in it and like it's just it's just neat. It's neat just having those little little things touch into what is basically now just ready player one.
02:10:55
BeyBlade
Yeah, like, what...
02:10:57
Steve-O
Marty McFly's in it. I just unlocked him today.
02:11:02
BeyBlade
Like, when they do things like, oh, like you can throw like Thor's hammer and like you can do kamehamehas and stuff, does that stuff get taken out eventually?
02:11:13
Steve-O
eventually like it is like usually like a seasonal thing like for this there's a portal that opens up on the map that takes you to like a Kill Bill universe and then your character steps out and has the sword and then and like when you step out with like the sword it does the do do do and like you basically like get attacked by the crazy 88 while you're like running around the map which is like kind of kind of cool
02:11:13
BeyBlade
In terms of like mechanics, I guess?
02:11:31
BeyBlade
Okay. You
02:11:37
BeyBlade
know, if that game had no multiplayer in it, I think I'd be super into it.
02:11:44
Steve-O
I
02:11:44
BeyBlade
Like, if it was just me playing a single player version of this, I think I'd be...
02:11:49
Steve-O
yeah i i really do know there would be an audience for people to just jump in and play maybe against bots and just be able to check out what they want kind of at like a more like comfortable pace rather than like going up against sweat lords all the time.
02:12:05
BeyBlade
Yeah, because I've always been impressed with the amount of content and just like the things they do.
02:12:10
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:12:11
BeyBlade
But like I don't want to get fucking shot in the head trying to like look at like a new thing. Like, oh, let me go. And I understand there's like some modes where like you can just have like a like nobody can kill anybody.
02:12:26
BeyBlade
Like the Travis Scott concert and stuff like that, where it's like,
02:12:28
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:12:29
BeyBlade
But yeah, I just, I don't know. I don't want to be like, Oh, let me look at this area. I think just get shot and then humped, you know, tea bag.
02:12:32
Steve-O
Right. And that's kind of the thing with the the Simpsons these season was that was awesome. Like they turned the entire map into Springfield.
02:12:41
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:12:41
Steve-O
There was like all the locales. You could find like pay phones and prank call Mo. But the problem is like you'd prank call Mo and you'd be sitting there listening to the joke. And then like, I don't know, like a Lady Gaga would run up and shotgun you.
02:12:52
BeyBlade
i would Yeah. You get shot in the head from the
02:12:58
BeyBlade
Yeah, and like, i don't know. It's interesting that there's so much of that.
02:13:03
unc leon
Thank
02:13:04
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
02:13:05
BeyBlade
then But like, you have to just deal with the interference of other humans trying to ruin your day.
02:13:10
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:13:12
BeyBlade
But like, they're not even being assholes. It's like, no, dude, I'm playing the game.
02:13:15
Steve-O
They're just playing the game.
02:13:16
BeyBlade
in the game.
02:13:16
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:13:16
BeyBlade
So it's I'm always of two minds about it.
02:13:20
Steve-O
Yeah, i'm i'm I'm a fan, but like I definitely wish there was like more of just like a chill version of it.
02:13:27
BeyBlade
Yeah, I need the chill version of Fortnite.
02:13:27
Steve-O
What
02:13:30
BeyBlade
Give me that.
02:13:30
Steve-O
what else we got in the pipeline here? Let's let's rocket through some of these.
02:13:32
BeyBlade
ah Well, ah shout outs to that that artist that ah basically Marathon completely ripped off um of, like their entire design portfolio they ripped off.
02:13:47
BeyBlade
She has said ah the issue has been resolved to her satisfaction.
02:13:51
Steve-O
Money.
02:13:52
BeyBlade
which means money or maybe backend. That'd be my, I would have been like, give me a cut of the the sales, dude.
02:13:55
Steve-O
Ooh.
02:13:56
unc leon
should be.
02:13:58
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:13:59
BeyBlade
Well, any of that nonsense.
02:14:04
BeyBlade
Again, talk about big mergers. Majority control of EA could shift to Saudi Arabia, public investment firm. That's just what everybody wants, right? um
02:14:13
Steve-O
Yep. I'm very excited to play Jared Kushner's Mass Effect.
02:14:17
billfrankenstein
Mega
02:14:17
BeyBlade
And in this edition of, i I'll have what,
02:14:20
billfrankenstein
effect.
02:14:21
BeyBlade
Yeah. And then this edition of I'll have what she's having. The Witcher 4 is planning two sequels within six years. Okay.
02:14:31
billfrankenstein
Sure.
02:14:31
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:14:32
billfrankenstein
go
02:14:32
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:14:32
billfrankenstein
I love the optimism.
02:14:32
BeyBlade
Yeah. Sure.
02:14:33
unc leon
Witcher 5 and Witcher 6? Or Witcher 4?
02:14:35
Steve-O
No, it's it's going to be Witcher 4 and then the fixed version of Witcher 4.
02:14:35
billfrankenstein
love the optimism.
02:14:37
unc leon
or like Witcher 4?
02:14:38
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:14:38
unc leon
Witcher 4 2?
02:14:38
BeyBlade
Witcher 4.
02:14:41
Steve-O
Wow.
02:14:41
billfrankenstein
Ha ha ha.
02:14:42
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. They are citing that, no, no, 4, 5, and 6, a whole new trilogy within a six-year time span. They're citing Unreal Engine 5 will help shorten the development cycles.
02:14:56
unc leon
More Unreal Engine 5 slop.
02:14:59
Steve-O
I'm so excited for those shaders to be able to load in.
02:14:59
BeyBlade
Yeah, dude.
02:15:00
unc leon
i thought they I thought they had their own engine for Witcher.
02:15:03
BeyBlade
No, no, they did, but Witcher 4, the big announcement was it was going to Unreal Engine 5, which that trailer or, you know, that footage that you saw was Unreal Engine 5 that everybody liked.
02:15:07
Steve-O
Switching.
02:15:10
unc leon
Wow. So they rage quit.
02:15:16
unc leon
Oh.
02:15:17
BeyBlade
So,
02:15:17
unc leon
The one with where they where they did an x-ray of the ah the horse and you could see his muscles, muscle tendons moving.
02:15:21
BeyBlade
yeah, yeah.
02:15:24
Steve-O
Mm.
02:15:24
BeyBlade
Yeah, that was Unreal Engine 5.
02:15:25
billfrankenstein
balls shrinking in the cold.
02:15:27
unc leon
No, that's that's Red Dead 2, Chris.
02:15:27
BeyBlade
So,
02:15:29
billfrankenstein
That is rented.
02:15:29
unc leon
That's not Witcher 4 yet.
02:15:30
billfrankenstein
You're right. You're right. That is true.
02:15:32
BeyBlade
But the thing is, is like that's just one of those things which you know they're going to get fucking mocked brutally when it takes six years for The Witcher 4 to come out. so
02:15:42
unc leon
And Unreal Engine 7 is going to be out by then. And it's going to be like, it's not even up-to-date technology there.
02:15:45
BeyBlade
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. ah
02:15:51
BeyBlade
Fucking insane, dude. ah Yeah, and I think that might put up... Yes, Chris?
02:15:58
billfrankenstein
I think i I forgot one thing. I forgot even to put it in the list.
02:16:01
BeyBlade
you Oh.
02:16:02
billfrankenstein
I was just looking at a photo of it. Markiplier's Iron Lung is set to release jen in January in theaters.
02:16:09
Steve-O
Uh-oh.
02:16:10
BeyBlade
Oh, that must mean it's great. yeah
02:16:17
Steve-O
Not the January.
02:16:19
billfrankenstein
um Yeah, I saw the trailer. it um
02:16:24
BeyBlade
I didn't even watch it. Not that I refused. i just.
02:16:27
billfrankenstein
Man, it's it's rough.
02:16:29
Steve-O
no.
02:16:30
BeyBlade
Is it rough because it looks like he did it with like a shoestring budget or just rough?
02:16:30
Steve-O
now
02:16:33
billfrankenstein
It is. That is mostly why it looks rough.
02:16:34
BeyBlade
Okay.
02:16:37
billfrankenstein
I'll give him that.
02:16:37
BeyBlade
okay
02:16:38
billfrankenstein
But um if it's just him in ah in a yeah in a sub, um it's going to be interesting. ah
02:16:47
BeyBlade
You can say bad. Yeah. Yeah.
02:16:49
billfrankenstein
I'm not saying he's a bad actor.
02:16:49
BeyBlade
a
02:16:50
billfrankenstein
I've never seen him act outside of YouTube videos. So I can't really attest to it. It's more like a complete unknown.
02:16:57
BeyBlade
yeah
02:16:57
billfrankenstein
Right?
02:16:57
Steve-O
Yeah, this is taking a swing at something, so we'll find out.
02:17:02
billfrankenstein
Yeah, I mean, I'm not initially against it. and i it If this does good, it gives me hope that Zane Pixels or Kane Pixels movie, The Backrooms, gets a good release.
02:17:12
BeyBlade
yes
02:17:14
unc leon
Thank
02:17:15
billfrankenstein
And that's what I really care about.
02:17:17
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
02:17:17
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:17:17
BeyBlade
Yeah, because... Well, that one I just have more faith in because that guy's like a filmmaker as opposed to...
02:17:21
billfrankenstein
Yeah.
02:17:21
Steve-O
Yeah, I've sat down with those Kane Pixels series, and I've like watched them for hours, and I've been enthralled.
02:17:25
BeyBlade
Yeah, like there's... You could tell there's like talent behind that.
02:17:30
BeyBlade
and that Like Markiplier's a great streamer.
02:17:30
Steve-O
Yeah.
02:17:30
billfrankenstein
Right. It's great personality.
02:17:33
BeyBlade
i don't I don't...
02:17:34
Steve-O
yeah
02:17:34
BeyBlade
yeah, I don't know his... Hey, whatever, right? um
02:17:41
BeyBlade
Mask off. Boo-boo. Anyway, so That is pretty much it. I could blaze Death Stranding 2 for a few hours.
02:17:54
BeyBlade
I'm not gonna. I'm just ready.
02:17:57
unc leon
Is it awesome?
02:17:58
BeyBlade
It's so good. Dude, you know what? This is what I will say just this.
02:18:01
unc leon
that gonna Is that going to be a tough decision for you to pick your best game for the year?
02:18:09
BeyBlade
No, it's making it more difficult than I initially thought it would have And I'll just say this really because so we could talk about this, you know, at a later time.
02:18:10
unc leon
is Is it that good? Okay, okay, okay, okay.
02:18:19
BeyBlade
But this is like everything in terms of a sequel that like Ghost of Yote, in my opinion, fell short with.
02:18:28
Steve-O
Mm-hmm.
02:18:29
BeyBlade
like this feels like an evolution of the original thing. Like it's a tighter process.
02:18:33
unc leon
Okay. Right.
02:18:36
BeyBlade
Annoying things have been tweaked. There's an interesting changed into like certain mechanics and stuff like that. Like it feels like a sequel. It doesn't feel like the same game with a different main character.
02:18:47
BeyBlade
um And it's just like, yeah. And I'm, I've been playing for days and haven't moved anything in the store because I need to get a five star on every fucking person I deliver mail to. Uh, and it's killing me slowly inside, but it's, it's the best, it's the best kind of death I can ask for. Um, that game fucking rules.
02:19:10
BeyBlade
So I, did you guys see the, the, the zoom in on Kojima's face when he lost best art direction or no bestke best game, uh, best game director.
02:19:18
Steve-O
No.
02:19:19
unc leon
Yeah, he like chuckled. I mean, it wasn't really like, yeah, it was basically like he knew.
02:19:21
BeyBlade
He like, squawk it it wasn't bad. it It wasn't bad, but it was almost like a, like, okay.
02:19:26
unc leon
yeah it's like he's like, oh, yeah, of course.
02:19:29
BeyBlade
But also he's probably like,
02:19:29
unc leon
Why did I why didn't I do what Team Cherry did and fucking stay home and make chicken soup and and watch?
02:19:33
BeyBlade
yeah, he should, he, I think that was the, why did I even show up?
02:19:36
unc leon
Yeah. Why did I even come here?
02:19:36
BeyBlade
Why didn't I?
02:19:38
unc leon
I thought i thought Jeff liked me.
02:19:38
BeyBlade
Cause like that.
02:19:41
unc leon
I thought he wanted to be my friend.
02:19:41
Steve-O
right.
02:19:41
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. Playing the game. Like that is one where I would have been like, yeah, I could see why he he was up for, it for best game direction for sure. um Anyway, the game fucking rules.
02:19:54
unc leon
Has he ever won a best game direction award?
02:19:55
BeyBlade
have no idea.
02:19:57
unc leon
Being Hideo Kojima.
02:19:58
BeyBlade
Has he ever won a game award?
02:20:01
unc leon
Has he won anything?
02:20:02
BeyBlade
I don't know.
02:20:04
Steve-O
He's a had to have won, right?
02:20:07
BeyBlade
Hideo Kojima TGA Award. Let's see.
02:20:15
Steve-O
I think best 2019. ah twenty nineteen
02:20:17
BeyBlade
He won an industry icon award, the award they made for him. In the game, the Toy Story Award.
02:20:22
unc leon
they gave him the Toy Story award? like for
02:20:26
BeyBlade
I don't think he's ever won like a like his game has won any.
02:20:32
unc leon
That's fucked.
02:20:35
BeyBlade
It's good.
02:20:35
unc leon
Fucking Astro Bot.
02:20:35
BeyBlade
His best friend, his best friend last.
02:20:36
unc leon
Hey, Astro Bot's better than... Astro Bot is better than anything he's ever made. Ever.
02:20:41
Steve-O
2019 Death Stranding won best game direction.
02:20:44
BeyBlade
Oh, thank God. All right. Good. Good. sure? Is that true though?
02:20:49
unc leon
Okay.
02:20:49
Steve-O
Best art, best art direction was control though.
02:20:51
Steve-O
So, and Sekiro won that year.
02:20:53
billfrankenstein
As it should.
02:20:53
unc leon
That's what saying. Like, imagine if Control came out this year and fucking and Claire's here just took everything, you know?
02:20:54
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah.
02:21:00
BeyBlade
yeah
02:21:01
unc leon
I'm glad Cuphead won, though, because that's like. That was the same year Hollow Knight came out, too, I think.
02:21:08
Steve-O
2017?
02:21:09
Steve-O
I mean, that was Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey.
02:21:11
unc leon
Yeah, but nobody played Hollow Knight until it went on sale for like at three dollars.
02:21:14
BeyBlade
Yeah, well, dude, Hollow Knight was just like ah it was just another one of those types of games that people got really into. But like Cuphead had also been like delayed for years.
02:21:23
unc leon
like later.
02:21:24
Steve-O
that That was definitely the year where like those indie games kind of went a little bit more next level from being like you know just like the little
02:21:24
unc leon
Yeah, yeah, Cuphead was marketed and everything, and like, you know.
02:21:27
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:21:33
unc leon
Yeah. Yeah, what are they doing, dude? What are they doing next? MDHR. What are they fucking doing, Steve?
02:21:40
BeyBlade
Wait, who's that?
02:21:40
unc leon
I want to play it.
02:21:41
BeyBlade
Is that the Cuphead people?
02:21:41
Steve-O
probably just Probably just making cartoons.
02:21:42
unc leon
That's the Cuphead devs.
02:21:43
Steve-O
Just making good cartoons, man.
02:21:44
BeyBlade
but Making cartoons.
02:21:44
unc leon
ah just they're just They're just sitting on their on on Epstein Island, collecting money, collecting residuals from the Cuphead animated series.
02:21:48
BeyBlade
Oh, uh, shout out.
02:21:51
billfrankenstein
Yeah, that is so apt.
02:21:52
BeyBlade
know, uh, by the way, I just want to throw a quick shout out to, uh, Xbox's and only trailer at the game awards, which is an old man picking up garbage.
02:22:02
unc leon
Which one?
02:22:03
Steve-O
Yeah, i watched that.
02:22:04
unc leon
Oh, yeah.
02:22:05
billfrankenstein
yeah that is
02:22:05
unc leon
Yeah, wait, wait. Here's another question.
02:22:07
billfrankenstein
so
02:22:07
unc leon
it was tough Was Phil Spencer even there or no?
02:22:08
BeyBlade
whats
02:22:10
unc leon
he didn't Did he even show his fucking the goblin?
02:22:10
BeyBlade
I don't think he was.
02:22:11
Steve-O
Nah, he big timed it.
02:22:12
unc leon
Did he even show his goblin face there or no?
02:22:13
Steve-O
He big timed it.
02:22:14
BeyBlade
No, dude, he was like, I'm working on something, and he's just Googling how to build a noose.
02:22:15
unc leon
No.
02:22:20
BeyBlade
Like, that's...
02:22:20
Steve-O
No, yeah.
02:22:22
unc leon
He's using chat GPT to make make a quick game.
02:22:23
Steve-O
I've got a new release.
02:22:25
BeyBlade
Yeah. Like, literally...
02:22:27
unc leon
Under a pseudonym, Bill Wrencher comes out with this new game for Xbox only.
02:22:27
BeyBlade
Literally... but it's...
02:22:35
BeyBlade
but
02:22:35
unc leon
Asus ROG Ally X exclusive.
02:22:38
BeyBlade
i think I think they said something's going to come out in January ah for Xbox, but like, but like fuck.
02:22:42
Steve-O
Oh no, iron lung.
02:22:45
BeyBlade
ah Oh, the Xbox? Yeah, yeah, we have that trailer with an old man digging up garbage that no one wants to play.
02:22:48
billfrankenstein
I just imagine the CEO going to a going to a little shack on the on the campus, and he's in there, and he's like, I want to come back in.
02:22:52
BeyBlade
Come on,
02:22:57
billfrankenstein
Let me back in He's got like got noose hanging up behind him, and he's like, no, we're going to keep you down here.
02:22:58
BeyBlade
come on. Yeah.
02:23:00
Steve-O
so You stay in there, Phil.
02:23:03
billfrankenstein
Phil, you stay there, okay?
02:23:03
BeyBlade
expert
02:23:06
BeyBlade
yeah He's like, I gave you Halo. What more do you want? me
02:23:12
BeyBlade
Oh.
02:23:12
unc leon
I got Halo I got Halo 1 remade again i got Halo 1 remade again what what more do you want from me
02:23:12
BeyBlade
Yeah. Yeah. She's great.
02:23:13
billfrankenstein
I want to come back in.
02:23:17
BeyBlade
Oh.
02:23:17
Steve-O
We did it. We did it.
02:23:18
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:23:19
Steve-O
We remade it for PlayStation.
02:23:22
unc leon
oh yeah for fucking PlayStation Jesus Christ
02:23:24
BeyBlade
but
02:23:25
Steve-O
ah There you go.
02:23:25
BeyBlade
she's correct ah
02:23:27
Steve-O
All right there, everybody. ah Let us know your favorite things from the Game Awards and also what you're excited for next year and the end of this year. We're excited to find out.
02:23:37
BeyBlade
Yeah.
02:23:38
Steve-O
So we'll be back next week.
02:23:39
BeyBlade
And now I can lock in. yeah now I can lock in on on the anti-Fanies.
02:23:44
Steve-O
That's true.
02:23:44
BeyBlade
I've kind of been avoiding it.
02:23:45
Steve-O
That's true.
02:23:45
BeyBlade
I've been avoiding it, but I'm ready.
02:23:48
Steve-O
All right, everybody. We'll see you soon. Bye.
02:23:51
BeyBlade
Looter.
02:23:51
unc leon
Night.
02:23:52
BeyBlade
Looter.