RESIDENT EVIL: requiem

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ThirstTrapLeon: Hello, you are listening to the all-new Anti-Fanboy Podcast for the week of March the 1st, 2026.

GraceAsscrack: March.

ThirstTrapLeon: We broke out of February. don't about you, but this one felt long. I wasn't fan of it. was a fan of the very end, but the rest of month can go kick rocks with me, kicking all these rocks. My name is Devin Kopec. With me is Steve O'Tierry.

Steve-O: You know what? Get rid of these rocks. Get rid of all this snow. Get rid of every weather event ever.

ThirstTrapLeon: tired of it. And also with me, the person who personally, he i see here, works at FromSoft and personally put the no stamp on the Bloodborne remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: John Suarez, good to have you here.

GraceAsscrack: Yep. Not doing it. Not on my watch.

ThirstTrapLeon: Why'd you... pretty messed up.

GraceAsscrack: That fucking sewer sewer sludge, sewer sludge, poo-poo developer, Bluepoint?

ThirstTrapLeon: Christopher... stick

GraceAsscrack: No thank you.

Steve-O: Never heard of him.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, thank you.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Chris Galanti is otherwise...

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, he still he doesn't have power.

ThirstTrapLeon: occupied.

GraceAsscrack: He still doesn't have power from last week.

ThirstTrapLeon: he still doesn't have power.

Steve-O: No power.

ThirstTrapLeon: We tried to get him, but he's like, I'm out of data. And frankly, just too scared. Just too scared playing video games.

Steve-O: He's too scared. He's he's like Grace in Resident Evil 9. Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, he's just...

GraceAsscrack: who who What did I do?

ThirstTrapLeon: were worth only life

GraceAsscrack: do I do?

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what I said?

GraceAsscrack: What do I do, Leon?

ThirstTrapLeon: I said, stop you stuttering, you dummy.

GraceAsscrack: What I do, Leon?

Steve-O: You know, can we get a round of applause for Capcom stealing the title of most scared character back from Luigi?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, he had to.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man. Yeah, is Grace the most scared character now?

Steve-O: I think, yeah, you know in a landslide.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, they I think rightfully so.

GraceAsscrack: You think in the in ah subsequent Resident Evil installments, she'll be a little bit more hardened?

ThirstTrapLeon: Luigi, you could say, is kind of faking it a little bit.

Steve-O: I think that's just the staple for this series, right? You start off super cowardly and scared.

ThirstTrapLeon: Scared a little? Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, Leon was pretty scared in Resident Evil 2, but he wasn't that scared, you know?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah, she's a...

Steve-O: Oh, every time they flash his little chubby cheeks from Resident Evil 2 in a flashback in this game.

GraceAsscrack: I feel like it's a violation for the FBI to just send her to fucking deal with her past.

ThirstTrapLeon: by herself, no backup.

Steve-O: Oh, it's really fucked up. ah We're to be talking about Resident Evil 9 a lot in this, as you can tell. Resident Evil Requiem came out. um <unk> We're probably going to be spoiling a bunch.

Steve-O: We'll try our best not to, but yeah, we're just going this.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, we'll probably end on that, right?

GraceAsscrack: No, no, Spoiler.

ThirstTrapLeon: We'll well well we'll we'll talk about the normal stuff and then you know we'll let you know and then...

GraceAsscrack: Spoiler. No, we're going to spoil it.

Steve-O: Somebody will pull the spoiler rip cord to let you know when you can leave.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah All I'm saying is ah some of us

GraceAsscrack: Sam tried faking me out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Haven't found time.

GraceAsscrack: I was at work on Friday and she was like, I was yeah, I'm like blacked out. on the internet, like, I'm trying to avoid spoilers. She's like, yeah, I heard that you, uh, I heard that Leon dies and that you play as Kate.

GraceAsscrack: And I'm like, okay. I was like, Kate. I was like, she's like, yeah, I don't know. She's like, I was just trying to, i was trying to fuck with you.

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: Wow. Wow.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, yeah, it's pretty obvious. There is no character named Kate re in Resident Evil.

Steve-O: The game was there, though. The attempt was made.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what? I appreciate that you took the swing.

GraceAsscrack: Nice try.

Steve-O: right

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: i was like, nice try. Nice shot.

ThirstTrapLeon: You fool.

GraceAsscrack: But clearly missed the mark.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Good for her, though. You know, I appreciate it.

GraceAsscrack: Joel dies and you play as Abby. So.

Steve-O: oh That doesn't sound believable. That doesn't sound believable.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's like when an old friend of ours oh an old friend of ours tried to spoil that Harry Potter book for me, but then got the order wrong.

Steve-O: Oh, didn't even know.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man. Oh, really?

ThirstTrapLeon: She was like, she was like, Dumbledore kills Snape. And I was like, what? And then, you know, she thought she was being funny. I was like, hey, like, not to be that guy, but like, I am excited for this book and you just fucking tried to ruin it for me. And then I read it and then I called her. I was like you're fucking idiot. You know that? said, what do you mean? I was like, you didn't even get the order right.

GraceAsscrack: Wait, but she was really trying to spoil it for you?

ThirstTrapLeon: She literally called.

GraceAsscrack: Legit?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, because because remember, remember the um the craze where like people were like driving out like outside of Barnes and Nobles and screaming what happens.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. a So fucked up.

ThirstTrapLeon: She called me and left me a voicemail. And I was like, what?

GraceAsscrack: Well, all you have to say to her is that she that you know Harry Potter kids don't deserve to live or whatever people say on our Discord.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: So, you know, Harry Potter fans don't deserve to live or whatever.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, well, as the I guess he was right in hindsight.

GraceAsscrack: So you know what, Devin? She, in hindsight, she was right. She was right.

ThirstTrapLeon: God, sorry. You know...

Steve-O: I mean, i'm still I'm still reeling from Game of Thrones. When i just did a little quick, like, oh, we were podcasting that night, and I did a little quick Facebook check.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah.

Steve-O: First thing that popped up, long live the king.

GraceAsscrack: I was mad. i was mad about that, too. Same person. Yeah. I was pretty pissed. pretty Pretty pissed about that.

ThirstTrapLeon: that's That's pretty upsetting.

GraceAsscrack: He's like, that wasn't a spoiler. I'm like, dude.

Steve-O: Come on.

GraceAsscrack: It's a pretty fucking blatant spoiler to just post.

Steve-O: Come on. I think it was like attached with an image.

ThirstTrapLeon: What do you mean?

Steve-O: Like, I think there was an image too.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's regardless. It's like, hey, this thing's in the zeitgeist. We all know what we're doing Sunday nights. And then you fucking post something like that. It's like, oh, I wonder what you could be referencing.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: You fucking goon.

GraceAsscrack: Seriously.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I get it. You read the books. So did I. Okay.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: no they didn't read the books.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: They just flipped to the page. They just went. put a little bit bit of little It was like when, uh, with star Wars,

GraceAsscrack: That'd be like us telling everyone that Glenn dies like in the first season of Walking Dead just to be dicks about it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: you know because he read all That guy read all the books.

Steve-O: We're doing... Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I didn't spoil it, so you our you already know.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. I mean, I write all the books too at that point, I think.

Steve-O: We did... You know what?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: We were so good at telling not telling people that Joel died with the ah Last of Us show.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I know, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: Exactly.

GraceAsscrack: I know, right? So good.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. You know why? Because I want to feel smug.

Steve-O: We want to watch the people as they have their world unravel.

ThirstTrapLeon: I do.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm selfish.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, that was like one of the best parts about watching that show, is just seeing Sam fucking suffer.

ThirstTrapLeon: Huh.

GraceAsscrack: Suffer actual trauma.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But like...

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, I mean... I've told that story a few times. But it was like when I showed Jenny ah the fucking... That Pixar movie about the emotions.

ThirstTrapLeon: What hell was that called?

Steve-O: Oh, Inside Out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, and I showed her. and I was like, this will be funny. She'll be really upset.

GraceAsscrack: ah The bing bong stuff?

ThirstTrapLeon: And she got so upset. Yeah, she got so upset, I started getting upset. i was like, oh, ah that didn't feel good at all.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. No.

Steve-O: Oh, so it...

ThirstTrapLeon: I thought it was going to be funny.

GraceAsscrack: That Bing Bong scene is pretty tough.

Steve-O: Yeah, that's a rough one.

GraceAsscrack: That Bing Bong scene is tough.

ThirstTrapLeon: Now that it got, it was, it was harder the second time. I don't know why he just hit a little bit harder. And I was like, Ooh, I feel like a bad person. i am a bad person.

ThirstTrapLeon: I miss big mom. And then.

Steve-O: Oh, Big Monk!

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah, yeah. So.

ThirstTrapLeon: but ah yeah yeah so We did some things. February happened, like like Steve mentioned. Resident Evil Requiem came out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Sounds like we all successfully no-lifed it, and we will talk about that a little bit later.

GraceAsscrack: Requiem. Requiem.

ThirstTrapLeon: But ah I just wanted to... I feel like... of feel like this is a fair don't even want to say critique but i i think this is a fair statement to make steve you're not really uh aggressive with the consuming of product as somebody like chris or i i think when it comes to like movies and tv and yeah it's it's it's it slowed down it slowed down a bit you know and uh

Steve-O: Yeah, yeah. I think my um my immediate movie pursual slowed down.

ThirstTrapLeon: you know I think it was like two days later after we last recorded, you sent me a text. It was like, you were a fucking kid about that Night of the Seven Kingdoms. And I was like, oh, man.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: So you you you i mean you know Lifestyle, dude.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Are you no-lifed it?

Steve-O: Yeah. After our podcast last week, I had just...

GraceAsscrack: Sheesh.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because that was the final episode. So we recorded before the final episode came out. I watched it. Big fan. I definitely think they... I would say stuck the landing in terms of like interest and quality.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, hell yeah. Great fucking show. And then you had just kind of devoured the whole thing in like a day or two, I guess.

Steve-O: It was easy to consume. There's only six episodes.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Only six.

Steve-O: They're about like 30 to 40 minutes long each.

ThirstTrapLeon: that move

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: And holy smokes, like...

ThirstTrapLeon: Right.

Steve-O: I think, I think Game of Thrones, the main series burned me so bad in those final few seasons that my, my Game of Thrones interest had just completely been abandoned.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that's totally fair.

Steve-O: But with how, like I had no interest in House of Dragons.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: And the only thing that like gave me like a little bit of an inkling was in the past. I I'd heard Chris talking about how much he enjoyed the Duncan egg stories and

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he was a big fan. He was a he was an original fan.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah, he was an OG.

ThirstTrapLeon: He was a real one, you know?

Steve-O: And I like, you know, I was like, oh, nine of seven kingdoms, blah, blah, it's going to be just more spinoff garbage. And you both were like, no, this is this is the Dunkin' Egg story that we love so much.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: And this is it done to like a perfect degree. There's like so much like enjoyment and heart and character that it's just it's Game of Thrones on a much smaller scale.

Steve-O: But it makes you like really, really get to appreciate just everything more because you're not constantly jumping like to houses and perspectives and stuff like that. You're basically in one locked perspective with um with Dunk.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: And like I can recommend this show to everyone. It is phenomenal.

ThirstTrapLeon: Boom. There it is. I mean, John, I think this could be the one.

GraceAsscrack: I know, yeah, I gotta get on.

ThirstTrapLeon: This could be in the one.

GraceAsscrack: if There's only, what, there's seven episodes?

Steve-O: six episodes. It's, it's like, they're like 30, 40 minutes each.

ThirstTrapLeon: Six episodes...

GraceAsscrack: Six episodes?

ThirstTrapLeon: Cursory knowledge. That's pretty much all you know. what It was so good that I get from I was I just got mad at George R. R. Martin all over again because. i am fully willing to write that guy off.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, you know, dude, you can't even be bothered to finish something, but it's like all of his shit is so good. though And granted, like his adaptations are great.

Steve-O: It's,

Steve-O: He

ThirstTrapLeon: They're all really good. And then they tend to fall off a cliff a little bit. And it's like irritatingly because they ran out of his own stuff or they deviate from his work.

Steve-O: m

ThirstTrapLeon: But it's just he's such a frustrating dude because he's like, yeah, I'll get to it. And then just lies to himself and fans.

Steve-O: no

ThirstTrapLeon: and And then, you know, i was like, fuck that guy. Fuck that guy and everything he stands for.

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: And then I give the show as i give this show ah a shot.

Steve-O: he just keeps making you angry all over again.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, god damn it. And it's and it's it's... I don't want to say one-to-one, right? i'm not I didn't read the stories, but... my understanding is it's quite, you know, accurate.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, God damn it.

Steve-O: yeah he's talented shit

ThirstTrapLeon: This fucking guy really knows how to how to tell a story. Fucking talented asshole who just doesn't want to finish his his own work.

Steve-O: it's 100 like it's 100% as you both described Rocky Balboa like in Westeros oh my god

ThirstTrapLeon: can Can you allude to a favorite moment?

Steve-O: There's a few favorite moments.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay. I

Steve-O: um

Steve-O: I think I need to think about it.

ThirstTrapLeon: i can. i can It was. yeah All right. Well, mine is like when you get the. It's the end of the episode.

ThirstTrapLeon: Where like right before the the the fight, the big fight, like with the musical swell.

Steve-O: Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: And like, that's my, I was like, yeah, ah I was fist pumping as Jenny was passed out on the couch. And I was like, fucking, yeah, bleh.

Steve-O: but Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because, you know, they tease it. They tease it early.

Steve-O: m

ThirstTrapLeon: And then it's kind of played for laughs. Just fine, you know.

Steve-O: Yeah, that was a good one.

ThirstTrapLeon: But the payoff, the payoff in that moment is so good.

Steve-O: Yes.

ThirstTrapLeon: Also, have you guys seen, there's a video. Because he, ah the the actor, Peter Claffy or Claffy, I can't. ah Who plays Duncan

ThirstTrapLeon: in Stranger Things?

Steve-O: Stranger things.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's not the show. Who plays Duncan the Talk? ah Peter Claffey. we'll just We'll go with that pronunciation.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Former rugby player. And there's an old interview there's an old interview that has kind of come up

Steve-O: I can see it. Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: Where he's like, I don't know what the the concept is, but he's just like, oh, I do a pretty good family guy impression of the baby. And then he nails Stewie impression.

Steve-O: oh

ThirstTrapLeon: It's like, Lois.

Steve-O: I have not. i kind of want to see this. I really do.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's really good. Hold on

Steve-O: I saw the video um where he and the actor who played Egg were like, they were talking about how they like hung out together and they went to like a hockey game and such.

GraceAsscrack: Amen.

ThirstTrapLeon: on. Dexter.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: Like I was like, that's, what that's a good way to like, kind of like build like just like a natural repertoire between two actors. And it, it felt real like authentic between the two of them.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Here it is.

Steve-O: Oh, let me see this. I'm i'm i'm very excited.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: John, you're going to love the second episode.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's, uh, Oh, John, yeah, like jack hear you what he walks.

GraceAsscrack: I watched the beginning of it.

Steve-O: um Okay, you've seen it.

GraceAsscrack: No, because I saw all the reactions to it on Twitter.

Steve-O: You've seen Okay, okay.

GraceAsscrack: i was like, I got to see this hog for myself.

ThirstTrapLeon: in John just kind of, I think John just checked in for that, that one thing.

GraceAsscrack: So I watched the first like 10 minutes. Dude, I took my time. i Yeah, I checked in.

ThirstTrapLeon: And he's like,

GraceAsscrack: You got to you got a respect that I checked in for that at least. you know I respected it at least.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, and he's like, I have what I need here, and then he leaves.

GraceAsscrack: yeah I was like, oh, okay.

Steve-O: i wasn't I wasn't prepared for it.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, oh, you didn't even hear about it?

Steve-O: I had not heard about this. That's all I needed.

GraceAsscrack: That's like the only thing I saw on Twitter like the day after.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. And then again, he wasn't

Steve-O: That's all I needed.

GraceAsscrack: So I was like, I gotta see this shit for myself. So i just I just turned on that one episode. I was like, oh god, look at that thing. Holy shit.

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: That thing is fucking huge.

ThirstTrapLeon: i think and then again didn't really call he wasn't like, oh, I should watch more.

GraceAsscrack: ah Oh my god.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's like, thank you

GraceAsscrack: was like, okay, I'm good.

ThirstTrapLeon: I appreciate it.

GraceAsscrack: I'm good it for now, yeah.

Steve-O: that's all i needed

ThirstTrapLeon: Thank you for your service.

Steve-O: they needed

ThirstTrapLeon: And he walks away.

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: You're like a gentleman pervert, dude.

GraceAsscrack: had to... Dude, I was just...

Steve-O: Hanging hogs right there.

ThirstTrapLeon: You're like that guy that wears like a three-piece suit and you go to the the sex dungeon and you're like, shit on my chest, please.

Steve-O: put that in the hall of fame.

ThirstTrapLeon: And you're like, thank you, man. And then you then you take your briefcase and you and you walk out of the club.

Steve-O: You leave a nice tip and you walk out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, you leave a nice tip and you take your briefcase and you just a gentleman pervert.

Steve-O: that's

ThirstTrapLeon: Fucking creep, dude.

Steve-O: oh

GraceAsscrack: Speaking of creep, look at my chat GPT return.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, what is this?

GraceAsscrack: So

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: so I have all the scores, but look at that. Look at that second line.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah Yeah, yeah. That's... ah

GraceAsscrack: Separate by Leon storyline game since you're clearly a fan.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, on one hand, I appreciate it.

GraceAsscrack: Smiley emoji.

ThirstTrapLeon: On one hand, I appreciate it.

GraceAsscrack: But at least, you know, at least you know what I'm what I'm asking.

ThirstTrapLeon: On the other...

GraceAsscrack: Chat GPT on the regular ah show.

ThirstTrapLeon: i know you're fucking freak.

GraceAsscrack: Show Leon ah in a Michael Jordan jersey.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: this Draw me a picture of Leon Kennedy in ah in Arthur Morgan's hat, please.

ThirstTrapLeon: Please. Please. And it like does it try to at least like convince... It's like, come on again? Come on. It tries to convince you to not do it It's like, we don't need to keep this up.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, haven't I created enough Leon Kennedy photos for you?

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm still hungry.

GraceAsscrack: Jesus says Christ.

ThirstTrapLeon: More.

GraceAsscrack: But i have all the I have all the Metacritic scores here, too, so when we we're ready to talk about it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

Steve-O: Oh, okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: mix that I'm excited. I'm excited.

Steve-O: But yeah, ah I would say, you know, I'm going to start using John's rating system because I like it so much of the Marrier Kill.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, no.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's just...

Steve-O: I'm going to say a king. I'm sorry, not a king of the seven. ah A knight of the seven kingdoms.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Marry.

GraceAsscrack: Masterpiece.

Steve-O: Marry.

ThirstTrapLeon: Fair.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, masterpiece.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: I would agree.

Steve-O: Going in the Hanging Hog Hall of Fame, too.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah you know You know what wasn't a Mary? ah i I don't know why. i just i just needed the urge. had the urge to hurt myself a little bit. I said, I'm going to go see Scream 7 today.

Steve-O: Oh dear.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm going to go to theater and watch Scream 7. I got to get some use out of that popcorn pass.

Steve-O: Yeah, did you get the popcorn at least?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, dude. Are you kidding I got that popcorn pass.

Steve-O: What if they were like roll out?

ThirstTrapLeon: I believe we had ah we had a little bit of a a little bit of snafu.

GraceAsscrack: you

ThirstTrapLeon: at the at the theater. um First thing, ticket machine ate my card. like Not my my card, but like my my ticket.

Steve-O: Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: It like just gobbled it up and didn't give it to me. So to explain to the guy, like I'm a serial killer. It ate my ticket. It has it. I just need you to open it. yeah was it Here's the thing.

ThirstTrapLeon: um It was a pretty packed show. It was kind of a a later in the day decision. So I go

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Only the front row is available. And by the way, I am making it.

Steve-O: Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: I am making it my job. i'm going to rehabilitate the front row Joes. Okay. It's undervalued an undervalued seat in the theater. It's really not that bad. The seats are far enough from the, from the front.

ThirstTrapLeon: that It's not the worst thing in the world. But the point is, is that was the only available seat. Right.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I say, you know, I'm on this this this mission, this quest to rehabilitate the front row. I'll gladly take that spot. Anyway, the point of this is I'm explaining to the the ticket guy what happened.

ThirstTrapLeon: This group of like eight people walk in. And they're like, oh, we want to see Scream 7. And the woman's like, hey, just so you know, like it's pre-packed. It's almost sold out. Only the front row is available. They're like, ah, damn. OK, sure. Why not?

ThirstTrapLeon: So I'm like, oh, it's going lively front row.

GraceAsscrack: God damn.

ThirstTrapLeon: I go in. I get there before they do whatever. Somebody's in my seat. And I was like, but again, there was a lot of empty spots.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, you know what? Whatever. Like it was it was like the dual seats. Right. With the little separator.

Steve-O: OK.

ThirstTrapLeon: And this guy had it. this He's a big boy. He was just sitting there and his popcorn was in technically my seat. Instead of sitting uncomfortably close to to this gentleman, I just sit in an empty seat right next to Right. I was 10. I sat in 11.

ThirstTrapLeon: No big deal. Then that big group of fucking people come in. But they were late enough in like the movie was going on for about 10 minutes.

Steve-O: ah okay

ThirstTrapLeon: so like they didn't want to make a scene, but I was definitely in one of their seats. And there was another space of somebody was just kind of filled in or whatever. But then this dad, this disgruntled dad, sat next to me in my chair.

ThirstTrapLeon: And at this point, the arm separator was up because I was doing what the other guy was doing. and my popcorn there. So I pick up my bucket, and then this guy's just grumbling next to me with no separation.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, our hands could have touched if I was...

Steve-O: Oh, you didn't even put it down.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, because at that point I was like, what do do here?

GraceAsscrack: Damn.

Steve-O: You put it down. That's your job.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, it's his job, dude.

Steve-O: Or his job.

ThirstTrapLeon: He can't believe.

Steve-O: It's one of your jobs.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Are you afraid that you would have both gone for it at the same time and touched hands?

ThirstTrapLeon: Listen, i yes. Or I was sexually, it was too sexually charged at that point. um The reason I'm telling this story about sitting in the theater is because that is far more interesting than the movie itself.

ThirstTrapLeon: The movie is, it's pretty, it's pretty terrible.

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: But the upside to this The very important an upside is I got to experience a rarity and that's a full theater. And regardless of how bad the movie is, a full theater, especially with a horror movie, it's pretty cool experience.

GraceAsscrack: wow people still gonna get it that's what James Cameron was saying man he's like I don't I don't make movies I don't make movies for awards he said

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. I've never seen a bad. Yeah. I don't make movies for living rooms.

Steve-O: It makes movies for auditoriums.

ThirstTrapLeon: I make movies for fucking packed houses, dude. And he's right. Like, dude, I've never seen a movie so bad. Get three separate applause breaks.

GraceAsscrack: that's weird if so it wasn't good

ThirstTrapLeon: It's crazy. like the Right? But it's just like cool moment happens. Dude, it was really bad. Like, I think, yeah, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like super bad. Like horrible. Horrible.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's it's just like, maybe not that.

GraceAsscrack: Like one of the worst movies you've ever seen.

Steve-O: One of the rich movies worst movies you've seen recent times.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yes, yes. Definitely recently. Worse than

Steve-O: Better or worse than Five Nights at Freddy's?

ThirstTrapLeon: It's going to take, I didn't walk out.

GraceAsscrack: Sheesh.

ThirstTrapLeon: I didn't walk out of a of that. So I'd say five nights is takes the cake, but it's just like, like ah not to get into the the weeds here, but like scream seven is not the original idea for scream seven.

Steve-O: Okay, still looking. king

ThirstTrapLeon: don't know if you guys remember, but that whole conflict with Hamas and Israel and all that kicked off a bunch shit storm.

Steve-O: Mm.

ThirstTrapLeon: One of the main actresses from screen five and six, Tweeted about it, made a comment. Everybody, you know, got some hot water. And then Jenna Ortega left and then the original writer director team had left. So it was just kind of like.

ThirstTrapLeon: I don't know, the guys who were fucking making Scream 4 and 3 and the bad Scream movies, essentially, essentially, they were like, oh, let's just throw this movie together.

ThirstTrapLeon: um And it's just there's like a shadow of a good idea here, but It just really feels like it was made and directed by like old men.

Steve-O: Yeah, like, i I kind of, like, lost my interest after they fired Jenna Ortega for, not Jenna Ortega, ah

ThirstTrapLeon: The other actress who's...

Steve-O: the other actress for for just making, like, pro-Palestinian comments and, like,

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. And like, I mean, granted, right. This is like right after. So it's like the timing. Not great. Melissa Barrera. Not great timing, but it's it's it's aged fairly well, I guess we could argue if if we you know, if you want to be gross about that.

ThirstTrapLeon: um It's not really something that's like, wow, that was really worth bombing this woman's career over. Like, frankly. Um, so whatever, but right.

ThirstTrapLeon: But like, as a result, a lot of the cast had just kind of dipped out and you feel the absence, especially with like the, the whole meta story that's being told they were going somewhere with it and they just, everything gets abandoned for just a bad movie, frankly.

Steve-O: Right.

Steve-O: The point of the new line was supposed to be this like, you know, we're we're doing the reboot meta commentaries. So.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, and like listen, I don't think Scream 6 is great by any stretch, but compared to 7, it's a fucking masterpiece.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: But yeah, it's it's really it's really bad.

Steve-O: That's shocking. That's.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm not going to um Anyway, so I saw that. Not good. And listen, so I'd say that's a kill, right?

Steve-O: Kill John scale.

ThirstTrapLeon: We have a masterpiece. We have a kill.

GraceAsscrack: Mm.

ThirstTrapLeon: But listen, man, I hate to say it, but the middle exists, guys.

GraceAsscrack: Super kill.

ThirstTrapLeon: The middle exists. And i watched, I watched a Jack Ryan movie a few weeks ago, maybe a month or so ago. Hunt for the Red October. And I was like, I'm fucking vibing with a Jack Ryan fella.

ThirstTrapLeon: I went on a hunt for more Jack Ryan things. And I watched the Ben Affleck led The Sum of All Fears.

Steve-O: for a hunt.

Steve-O: I saw that in theaters with Chris Galani when it came out.

GraceAsscrack: Mm.

ThirstTrapLeon: What did you think?

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: Tell me all your memories.

GraceAsscrack: That's not terrible, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: Not terrible.

Steve-O: It's not terrible, but that movie was that movie was probably the first... um I would describe it as like almost like a um political thriller.

ThirstTrapLeon: 2002. Yes, it was.

Steve-O: That was like one of the first right after So...

ThirstTrapLeon: yes there was

Steve-O: so I imagine a lot of that event is kind of like was in my mind at the time. So I just, I remember like being like, that was fine.

Steve-O: What was, what were your thoughts on it now?

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, it's not exactly fine. Totally fine. There's a little bit. I don't want to say it's like aggressively rah-rah because one, it's kind of already built in because it's a fucking John Clancy book.

Steve-O: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: But also, yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: Tom Clancy.

ThirstTrapLeon: But also it's, um you know, I don't think it was in time for all that, you know, by the time this movie had come out versus the events.

Steve-O: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: But um man, it's a... It's weird because I'm watching this and I'm like, I could see why nobody this 2000, the early 2000s were was like people were kind of getting sick of this type of movie in in the sense of like political thrillers.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Like nothing, oh nothing, not a lot of action happens right outside of the one big thing where the nuke goes off.

Steve-O: o

ThirstTrapLeon: But ah listen, yeah, like I said, kind of right in the middle. and Which then, of course, led me to Googling Jack Ryan novels. And then, did you know that that guy ends up being the President of the United States?

Steve-O: Does he really?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, dude, there's 15 books. ah Yeah, he he goes from data analyst to the President of the United States. cause cause Like, listen, I get it, right?

Steve-O: Goddamn. Good for you, Jack Ryan.

ThirstTrapLeon: They're they're loosely, loosely connected, if at all.

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's been rebooted to hell, right? this jack ryan Ben Affleck, Jack Ryan is not ah fucking Baldwin, Jack Ryan, who's not fucking Harrison Ford, Jack Ryan.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, you know, he meets a new woman.

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's his wife in every fucking movie. I get it. But I don't know, man. It's just... ah It's just a weirdly fascinating movie collection of movies that I just never really spent that much time in. So eventually I will watch the Harrison Ford ones.

Steve-O: Yeah, that's...

ThirstTrapLeon: i

Steve-O: What is that?

ThirstTrapLeon: If I'm Patriot Games in Clear and Present Danger, which I think ah i think is um oddly the...

Steve-O: Patriot Games? Is that one of them? Okay. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: What is it? I think one of them is like the bad one. like Like the first one, the first Harrison Ford one is like a bad one.

Steve-O: Maybe.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then the sequel is like much better. Yeah,

Steve-O: I think it might be Patriot Games is the bad one, and then Clear and Present Danger is the good one.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah yeah. And I think Clear and Present Danger is like liked much more. And then, you know, and then a who knows? Maybe I'll just be that guy that just watches political thrillers moving forward. I'm hitting that age, guys.

Steve-O: It's um so like those, those movie movie series, I think like they had legs and then I think they did the born identity and that came out 2002, the same year as that.

ThirstTrapLeon: We're just going to into it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's because it's that, but what if it was cool?

Steve-O: And I, what if he beat someone with a fucking phone book and you're like, Oh shit.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Cause Jack, Jack Ryan's whole thing is like, he could handle on himself, but he had that bad back, he that back injury and he's just, that's why he's a desk guy, but you know, he's always getting up to something, but, uh,

Steve-O: got that back.

ThirstTrapLeon: don't know, man. It was weirdly not that bad. um And I actually, I'm going to take a moment. I'm going ask for John and Steve's support here. I'm going to tell you this right now.

ThirstTrapLeon: My stance on not watching One Piece is starting to waver.

Steve-O: Are you talking about the live action or just the animated?

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no. The anime. I'm like... just This podcast I listen to every week, this guy, he got into it. And every week he does a check-in and it always sounds really good.

ThirstTrapLeon: They're like, what episode? He's like, I'm on episode 390. He's like, but it's so good. And I'm like, oh I'm okay. you know like I feel like i'm ah I'm an addict and they're just putting drugs in front of me.

Steve-O: I am more okay with you getting into One Piece than when you got into Naruto and Verudo.

ThirstTrapLeon: but I didn't get into Boruto yet.

Steve-O: Yet. That's the thing, though. That's the threat. of The looming threat.

ThirstTrapLeon: So because like, OK, I'll be honest. I started to rationalize it because, ah you know, because like my thing is that I always talk about is I try not to watch anime that's not done because eventually I catch up and then I just lose track of it all.

Steve-O: Hmm?

Steve-O: Hmm?

ThirstTrapLeon: But it's like, would I ever catch up to One Piece by the time? Like, who knows? It could just be this weird evergreen show. Then I just, you know, watch 10 or 12 episodes once every few weeks. You know, I just spend a night or two just digging in and then i I give it a break and then I just jump in. And I'm like, maybe that's what it could be for me.

ThirstTrapLeon: But I also know, like, I'm just rationalizing a poor decision in my life.

Steve-O: It might consume you. It might become your venom.

ThirstTrapLeon: Or, oh my God, could you imagine if I became a one-piece guy?

Steve-O: We are straw hats.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, am I, would I be a fraud if I, if I just said, guys, I don't know, like just to my own sensibilities.

Steve-O: Why would you be a fraud?

Steve-O: the Are you afraid to look at the mirror and be like, oh, no.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, like what, what I hate myself, like what Devin a year and a half ago be like, you're a fucking sellout, dude.

Steve-O: why Why would One Piece make you a sellout when you've watched Naruto, Dragon Ball z

ThirstTrapLeon: Cause I've always said, cause one piece is like, it's like, it's yeah, but that ended, you know?

Steve-O: My Hero Academia? is it Is it like you need one of the animes to be like your, oh, well, I've never gone that far.

ThirstTrapLeon: Maybe, maybe it's that. I think, I think that moment for me at this point would be if I watched one of those animes, that's like in translation, it's like a full human American sentence.

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what I mean? Where it's like, like there's those animes that are literally titled like the day I woke up and died and fell into an isekai and my girlfriend's a game boy.

Steve-O: Wait, what?

Steve-O: Oh. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, like that's the, the I think that's,

Steve-O: I have seen those.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's the you need to go into rehab moment.

Steve-O: That's the line. That's the moment you've...

ThirstTrapLeon: If I'm watching the ones that are full of American sentences.

Steve-O: I mean, that's...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, guys.

Steve-O: That's just the modern version of the scholastic books that they used to sell to us back in the day where it's like, my gym teacher was an alien from the planet Zotar.

ThirstTrapLeon: guess.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, but that was cool, right? dude Steve, don't say that because then I'll rationalize that shit.

GraceAsscrack: Thank

ThirstTrapLeon: It's just the same as like a Miss Frizzle.

Steve-O: Dude. the That is the problem, too, is you'll start realizing a lot of the things you already like are quote unquote isekis.

ThirstTrapLeon: What's the difference?

ThirstTrapLeon: No, trust me. um I'm sadly aware. and I'm like, no, it's pretty.

Steve-O: I'm sadly aware.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm depressingly aware.

Steve-O: Mortal Kombat's in Isekai.

ThirstTrapLeon: All right, guys.

Steve-O: There

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, it's a good one, too. Fucking Johnny Cage.

Steve-O: you

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, sort of.

Steve-O: Well, I'm talking about the the line where they sent the wrong Liu Kang to the i think that the the dead the evil dimension or the the evil universe.

ThirstTrapLeon: The outer world or nether realm, outer realm and nether realm.

Steve-O: Whatever. It was something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Anyway, anyway, so I'm, I've been struggling, struggling internally with that, but, uh,

Steve-O: I don't have a problem with one piece. I think if you were to show me one piece and show me Naruto, I'd be like, Oh, one piece seems more fun.

ThirstTrapLeon: Steve, uh,

Steve-O: That seems sillier, more fun. I saw people have been demanding for Adam Sandler to be cast in the one piece live action on Netflix.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, yeah, there's apparently there's a character that looks just like him. Or something. I don't really.

Steve-O: Demanding Waldo threw a knife at a door.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I'm sorry. That was gross. um

Steve-O: What are y'all just burping?

ThirstTrapLeon: two

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, dude, I like crushed the Coke Zero earlier before I right like Godzilla laser blasted you guys.

Steve-O: That was a good one too. You took us back a little bit.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, I would say I have that excuse. The only excuse I have is I'm a little wild on the soda machine at the at the movie theater today.

GraceAsscrack: Thank

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: I was like, what if we used cream Coke, vanilla Coke, and cherry Coke with a splash of regular Coke mixed in? And then I was belching the entire movie next to my random date. Um...

Steve-O: Do you try and hold it back or do you just like open it up for, for everybody?

ThirstTrapLeon: um If I'm with Chris, I open it up. there's that There's a very famous story where... and think we were watching The Conjuring.

ThirstTrapLeon: like the Not the last one that came out, but the one before that.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: And like right as the movie, like the screen's black and then like the the title card hits.

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I just hit him with them one that was like, that and then he he couldn't stop laughing for about 10 minutes. and he was He was furious with me and I was like, I don't know, man.

Steve-O: That is good.

ThirstTrapLeon: At a very, very expertly time. So.

Steve-O: You got stinky burps.

GraceAsscrack: My arm's stinky right now.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'd like to say no, but every once in a while, dude, like I think I'd say this on the average. No, not at all. But man, when they do, I can tell. And I'm like, oh.

Steve-O: That's fair.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what? You know, what's a a fool's errand is when you have those farts that don't stink and shut up. They exist, right? Where you're just pushing out air. No one believes you.

ThirstTrapLeon: And you're like, I swear to God.

Steve-O: It's just a sound. It's just an audible.

ThirstTrapLeon: it's just it's just yeah it's just It's just something coming out of me, guys.

Steve-O: the The thing though is like, there is also like, that's your own scent.

ThirstTrapLeon: But you'll never be able to convince anyone.

Steve-O: So some of the time it's like, it doesn't affect you as much, but somebody who is not as familiar with your scent or around your scent will clock it and be like, Oh, Oh, but

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm sure there's ah there's a Google search I could do that explains it, but like it's wild how how into, like not into it, but like how accepting of my own like your own farts you can be.

Steve-O: dude, the bad ones are weird.

Steve-O: Freak.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then you can be like, oh, that one smells so bad.

Steve-O: Yeah. Yeah, when you when you clock one that's...

ThirstTrapLeon: But even then, it still doesn't smell that bad, right? But you know, you're like, that one has a has a kick to it.

Steve-O: You're like, oh I'm so sorry.

ThirstTrapLeon: That one's little spicy. And then the person next you throws up outside of their car.

Steve-O: They throw up and you're like, I'm sorry, I hit Chipotle.

ThirstTrapLeon: but I'm sorry.

Steve-O: so

ThirstTrapLeon: I have a tummy ache. I'm sorry.

Steve-O: So...

ThirstTrapLeon: They didn't have any rice. They didn't have any rice. So I had to just eat beans at the burrito spot today. That's true story.

Steve-O: So, wait, you just ate rice?

ThirstTrapLeon: That happened to me today. No, no, they had no rice.

Steve-O: They had no rice.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's like, um, the one. So I'm getting burrito, right?

Steve-O: It was just beans?

ThirstTrapLeon: is the Dude, so the guy's like, hey, just so know we don't have any rice.

GraceAsscrack: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I'm like, that's fine. The woman behind me goes, you all have rice? And he's like, no, we're all out. She storms out, dude. I'm at a Moe's. And I was like, wow, that woman really wanted some rice. And went, I know, right? And then proceeded to make my burrito.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, okay.

Steve-O: I think rice is fairly important for the, the burrito.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, that's a pretty key ingredient.

ThirstTrapLeon: It butts butts.

Steve-O: You were just beans and chicken and like veggies and maybe.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, it was beans and chicken, dude.

Steve-O: instead

ThirstTrapLeon: Chipotle mayo. Listen, sometimes the rice will dry up a burrito, though. Like, really badly. And if you want a wet, sloppy little burrito, dude, I'd say don't get rice.

Steve-O: oh

ThirstTrapLeon: Every once in a while, it's okay. But it's just, I don't know, man.

GraceAsscrack: What do you replace it with? it's just At that point, it's just mush.

ThirstTrapLeon: Nothing. It's not mush. The rice is what makes it mushy.

Steve-O: No, I like the rice. Dude, the rice is good.

GraceAsscrack: No, the rice is important.

Steve-O: It's structure.

ThirstTrapLeon: something ah The rice just packs it in, dude.

GraceAsscrack: The rice is important.

Steve-O: If I want it to be wet, I'll just like get a burrito with like some mole sauce. Oh, so good.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah hate molay sauce I hate I hate mole sauce.

Steve-O: You hate mole sauce?

GraceAsscrack: You're crazy, Devin.

ThirstTrapLeon: One, hate the name. Two, hate the spelling. Three, not a big fan of the taste. Four, don't like the look of it either.

Steve-O: It's just like chocolate. It's just like a

ThirstTrapLeon: It's not...

GraceAsscrack: I think, I think rice, I think rice to burrito is like rice to sushi.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, I don't want...

GraceAsscrack: It's it's just one of those things.

Steve-O: Yeah, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: i Listen, next time, just be like, hey, could you just give me like half the amount of normal rice? I think you'll have a better burrito experience.

Steve-O: I think I'd be getting a worse burrito experience.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, maybe if I'm ordering a $50 carne asada burrito, then yeah, fucking hold off on the rice.

Steve-O: I'm getting less nice.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: I need to make sure all my stomach filling goes to the meat, you know?

ThirstTrapLeon: What a missed opportunity I had to go viral.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: The fuck, was that a firework?

GraceAsscrack: But speaking ah speaking of burritos, speaking of burritos, we we played a little burrito this weekend, i would say.

ThirstTrapLeon: Sorry. That was me.

Steve-O: We did. we We definitely got into a tasty burrito, if I may say.

GraceAsscrack: instance and

ThirstTrapLeon: We did. We did. Do we wait real quick?

Steve-O: see

ThirstTrapLeon: Do we want to run down the news stories first?

GraceAsscrack: No.

ThirstTrapLeon: I think just no.

GraceAsscrack: um Maybe we just skip the news stories.

Steve-O: i see what Devin's trying to do, but I also, i see John, John wants to jump in.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, we gotta talk about Resident Evil, dog.

ThirstTrapLeon: no no, I'm saying I'm saying run into that and they just I know I'm just I

Steve-O: He's been waiting 30 minutes.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, we wanna talk.

Steve-O: You're trying to, you're trying to get people to wait for the end of the episode.

ThirstTrapLeon: I want to backload, right? i just want to I just want you to know, hey, this is a comfy spot to go.

GraceAsscrack: No, because I don't want to get derailed and then like, you know,

ThirstTrapLeon: How could we get derailed at this point, John?

GraceAsscrack: I say save the news stuff for last. We'll do lightning-style last.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay. Okay.

Steve-O: All right. That sounds good.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: So we can get it all out, you know?

Steve-O: That sounds good.

ThirstTrapLeon: So, all right. Officially, this is the warning.

GraceAsscrack: Top-load it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Resident Evil 9 talk. we We all no-lifed it. And fully admitting, we no-lifed Sat there.

Steve-O: So look right ah right off the top, i just so that way, you know, the people who haven't played it, and we're not going to do spoilers at this moment, but everybody, marry or kill.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay. so

Steve-O: What are your thoughts on this? And then we'll send everybody who doesn't want spoilers home.

GraceAsscrack: Do I do letterbox style or regular style?

Steve-O: Your pick.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, this is tough.

GraceAsscrack: I would say long-term engagement with serious consideration for for marriage. But it's too new right now.

GraceAsscrack: We're still on the honeymoon phase.

Steve-O: Oh, John, i did we find your thing that kind of just added a little bit of a middle ground to your review system?

ThirstTrapLeon: Wait, to hold on.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Hold on. I don't

GraceAsscrack: Well, no, thought you said we're doing Letterboxd style, yeah, it's masterpiece, right? But if you want my actual, like, specific thoughts...

Steve-O: Okay, the actual.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, I think...

ThirstTrapLeon: like this job. don't like this version.

GraceAsscrack: think we have to put it within context of how we view the rest of the series. And that's why I i asked my friend Charles...

GraceAsscrack: Charles Gordon... um part Parkinson III. I asked him

Steve-O: unfortunate name.

GraceAsscrack: so pull

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: to pull the ah i asked them to pull the ah the Metacritic scores of the the mainline games to give us some, you know, a baseline, I guess, of of how the series is viewed in general. And basically, like, because the the way I wanted to do this isn't, I mean, we can do Mary Fuck Kill later.

GraceAsscrack: I guess, like, after we talk about everything, maybe maybe my my position will change.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But, like, ah my main thing is just, like, where does this one rank? Like, this is how I was with the 8th, with the Village, and with Resident Evil 7 as well.

GraceAsscrack: Like, oh, how does this how does this stack up against? Because this is a very long and prestigious... um series of, it's a very long and prestigious franchise, I would say.

GraceAsscrack: Like, it's Capcom, is Capcom's big, I mean, it's not Monster Hunter or a Street Fighter, but, like, it's basically Capcom's, like, main, like, blood bloodline IP.

ThirstTrapLeon: i feel like if you if you think of the first game you think of Capcom, I think it's most of people's.

GraceAsscrack: Like, this is what Capcom, what defines Capcom.

GraceAsscrack: It's Resident Evil.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's Resident Evil.

Steve-O: this was This was the game that they thought could compete with Call of Duty back in the 360 Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, they fucking, they, this is fucking, they named their fucking god tier engine. off of Resident, didn't call the SF engine or the MH engine.

GraceAsscrack: They call it the RE engine with the specific intentions to use the engine to the to the to its full potential for these games, you know?

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, apparently as somebody from Capcom said it actually stands for reach for the moon because that's what your dreams are.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, okay.

Steve-O: That's such BS.

GraceAsscrack: Sure, sure, dog.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, okay.

Steve-O: That's such BS.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, the GTA engine stands for Gary gary ah Theodore Rodriguez.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: The idea is silent Rodriguez.

GraceAsscrack: That doesn't even say GTA. Gary Theodore. Gary Theodore Anderson.

Steve-O: ah

GraceAsscrack: That's named after our founding father, Gary Theodore Anderson.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: the yeah is silent in rodriguez

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. But, uh, GTR.

ThirstTrapLeon: very silent

GraceAsscrack: Uh, but yeah, uh, yeah, so I mean, I think that, I mean, we, I think we should talk about the game, and then we can go down memory lane as well.

Steve-O: okay

GraceAsscrack: Uh, I don't know how you guys want, like, do you want to do, like, a King of the Board type style, or we're like... Like afterwards, we're like, oh, do you think it's better than this one? Do you think it's better than this one?

Steve-O: I think we could do that. I think that that works.

GraceAsscrack: Okay. Just because I.

Steve-O: I'm going to, you know what? I'm going to send everybody home right now. You heard from John, his letterbox review masterpiece.

GraceAsscrack: Masterpiece.

Steve-O: So take that and then get out of here.

GraceAsscrack: Stop the steal.

Steve-O: Cause we'll probably start talking about spoilers and stuff.

GraceAsscrack: Stop the steal. Stop the steal.

Steve-O: So.

GraceAsscrack: Because this one, this one had everything, man. Like everything.

Steve-O: This one definitely felt like the 30-year culmination.

GraceAsscrack: And.

GraceAsscrack: like this is what yeah Like you said earlier, Steve, like this is what probably they wanted Resident Evil 6 to feel like aesthetically and like vibes-wise. When you have the sixth installment in the prestigious Resident Evil ah franchise of games, like when you have the sixth one where it has everybody in it, right that one, you're playing playing six different storylines across six different locations and in in in the world.

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Like, this is the fucking... This isn't just the greatest hits. This is like Sgt. Pepper. You know, we're trying to make Sgt. Pepper, you know? So... um But this is this is like...

GraceAsscrack: This is this is like the White Album, I would say, if we're doing Beatles albums.

ThirstTrapLeon: Mmm,

GraceAsscrack: Like, this is like...

ThirstTrapLeon: okay

GraceAsscrack: Because you got Side 1, you know? You got Side 2. I mean, you even got you got Rocky Raccoon and in the the White Album, too. We got we even got the namesake in there.

Steve-O: mr raccoon

GraceAsscrack: But... and Yeah, and then you you have you have, you know, you have John Lennon's, like, his specific style in in and um and in and certain songs, right? And then you have, like, you have Paul McCartney, too. Like, you have both.

GraceAsscrack: And they're they're very separate. um I don't know where I'm going with this, but, like, I mean, you know where I'm going with this.

Steve-O: I can see the tie where you're you are taught you are using the Lennon-McCarthy comparison.

GraceAsscrack: Like, You know, because it's always been Lennon McCartney dude does every song, right?

Steve-O: McCartney. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But then, you know, when you can actually pinpoint parts of the, parts of songs or or even songs in general where you're like, oh this is definitely a John Lennon song. This is definitely ah a Paul McCartney song.

Steve-O: Right.

GraceAsscrack: Like, it's's it's basically the same with this, where it's like, oh, we have two distinct styles, but like, let's let's mash them together, but in a way that like, really works you know so

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: who Who would be who in your mind? Is Grace or Leon Paul?

GraceAsscrack: think leon's paul and grace's grace's part is lennon because it's fucking creepy weird shit like you know like it's like fucking psycho shit like psycho like you know subliminal message type things where where leon is very you know

Steve-O: Okay.

Steve-O: It's terrifying.

ThirstTrapLeon: beautiful

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I want to hold your hand. You know what I mean?

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: like leon is You know what you're getting with Leon, and it's like, how well do you like how well do they execute the Leon Kennedy stuff? Because in Resident Evil 6, they have him fucking laying down on the ground, rolling around and shit, and fucking gunfu.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But it's like, he does all that stuff, but it's like, can we make it like Resident Evil 4 Remake? you know Can we like really like translate what they did it's really interesting because like you feel like you you got somewhere resident before remake you're just like oh this is the pinnacle of fucking action like action horror like this is what action horrors like it's got to be like this they almost got there with resident evil 3 remake right uh where they're like it's like aliens but like resident evil 4 remake it's like oh let's you know and then you know the big big shoes to fill too like it's like how do you

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: this the most beloved game in the in the in the franchise, basically, one one one one of two of the most beloved games the franchise, like, how do you fucking remake that, you know? With two, you know, clearly, clearly with Resident Evil 2 remake, they had they had shit on their plate that they wanted to get out, and they were able to get it out. But with Resident Evil 4, it's like everybody, when they went, I guess you you could say a lot of people, when it was announced, like, oh, why do you even need to do this?

GraceAsscrack: You know, you don't really have to do this. But,

Steve-O: Right, like if that game was still playable in like modern consoles.

GraceAsscrack: But it's, yeah, but I feel like it's like a stepping stone to, like, where they wanted to go with it. Because, you know, it's not, you know, this the difference is, like, this isn't a remake. Like, this is a new game.

Steve-O: Right.

GraceAsscrack: So, like, that's, it holds more weight.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, the stakes are a little bit higher because you don't have, like, you know, oh, this remake, like, Resident Evil 3 remake, we hated it, but it's cool. Like, Resident Evil 3 Nemesis for PlayStation 1 is still amazing.

GraceAsscrack: So,

Steve-O: Still exists. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: still exists you know nobody will to ever take that away from us but with this is like a new game like you know you like where are we going with this you're we're we're running out of remakes to make to to fucking crutch on capcom like where where are we going with the series and it's like it's really impressive to to even know that you know and and if you take out all the all the side shits like the side games and stuff i'm not gonna i'm gonna count

Steve-O: Right.

GraceAsscrack: Code Veronica as a mainline game. always I will always count as a mainline game.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But like with all the side games, like the amount of years that Resident Evil has is just one. But like the the amount of mainline games, like it's really impressive um to see that they're trying still.

GraceAsscrack: you know Especially after. And I guess we could thank Resident Evil 7 for that. Because that that kind of set it up. for the series and it's like, how do we, how do we incorporate the classic shit too?

GraceAsscrack: And it's like, this one pretty much had both.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, this felt like...

GraceAsscrack: So.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: It was very fanservice-y. Not in a pervy way, to be honest.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. But like, yeah, in like a tasteful way, like a v fan service in a tasteful way, I would say.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And you got, you guys all play grace first person.

Steve-O: Yes.

ThirstTrapLeon: No. I was third for both.

GraceAsscrack: Leon third person.

Steve-O: oh

GraceAsscrack: Uh, you gooner.

Steve-O: Oh.

GraceAsscrack: With your dick in your hand, you're playing one-handed. Looking at Grace's butt.

ThirstTrapLeon: We don't gotta worry about... How was it in first person?

GraceAsscrack: Fucking awesome, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's... Okay, I...

Steve-O: all It's terrifying.

ThirstTrapLeon: I will say it's it's kind of funny because like in third person, specifically in the very beginning parts, there's not a few moments where it just puts you in that first person perspective.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: And then it's like, oh, yeah, I get it. I get it. You want me to be playing like this? And then it was just kind of pulled back.

GraceAsscrack: Even a And i don't know how deep you guys went. I mean, we will talk about in detail when we get to it, but like an upgrade, like one of the couple of the upgrades you can get for, for Leon, for his gun.

GraceAsscrack: Like if you add a site to his gun, it shifts it to first person to make it easier to aim, which is really interesting and cool.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Kind of, i wasn't a big fan of that because it's like,

GraceAsscrack: oh, you want you want cheat cheat code mode where you just give them the laser?

Steve-O: The laser dot.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah, I kind of, I'll be honest, I was, i was, I was really excited for the laser.

GraceAsscrack: They'll never do that! They would have given that to us in the remake, and they never they're never going back to that.

ThirstTrapLeon: i really, I was like, oh, stick the lasers back.

GraceAsscrack: and

ThirstTrapLeon: And then it just put me in that perspective.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, nah.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but it dude, that's so it would be so broke like it would be so fucking easy. if if Especially if it had the same laser physics like as the OG where you only see the actual dot at the end of the laser if

Steve-O: And let me have a Wiimote, too.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. I mean, you got you got a mouse keyboard, though, and dog.

ThirstTrapLeon: with yeah Yeah, you basically have a remote.

GraceAsscrack: I see people playing mouse keyboard.

Steve-O: i played this with controller. I played this with controller, because that's how you play these.

GraceAsscrack: You know what, Steve? I didn't even want... I mean, I didn't even ask you because I knew you were going to do it the right way and not be a fucking weirdo about it.

Steve-O: Hmm?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I'm interested i'm also interested to see how the speedruns go for a game like this because it is short enough to probably get under... I would say you can get under two hours in this game. Two, two three hours.

Steve-O: the ah you know the The challenge in the endgame is ah beat it in four hours. So I'm i'm excited to see a two-hour run of it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: yeah this Yeah, I'm excited to see fucking the butt the butt fence glitch in this game, like in the remake that I was doing.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I...

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm very curious about ah yeah how they're going to do that. I mean, I'm curious if it's how doable it is without like infinite ammo.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because that's those gray sections are pretty rough. Like, you've got to go slow.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but once you yeah once you have a route, though, it's like, you know,

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what? Yeah, I suppose.

Steve-O: and And also there's hemiletic purple blower uppers.

GraceAsscrack: It's a matter of like, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: No. Yeah, those...

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah.

Steve-O: Oh, those are a godsend.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, it's easy. yeah easy It's going to be easy, dude. And then like um with Leon, with the Leon stuff, you just have to kill as many people as you need to get whatever upgrades you need, and then and then you're good.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, you're just a serial killer.

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: le

GraceAsscrack: you know' Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I feel like, yeah, it's, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, so... I was talking to John about this, Steve, and like I was like, when leon when you play li specifically in the beginning parts, because one of my concerns at the very least was like, I was like, man, the Leons are great, but like they're so short.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Is that it?

ThirstTrapLeon: They just didn't feel short until it opened up, right?

Steve-O: Dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: But I was like, man, this really feels like you're using like a mythic...

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: like like Like, you have a...

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. It's like you're summoning.

ThirstTrapLeon: like you're Yeah, or like you're playing like a D&D campaign, and then you just add like a name to Mythic character, and you're like, okay, this person comes in and just fucking wipes...

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, you...

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

Steve-O: Right. It's here's a level 20 wizard that just shows up.

GraceAsscrack: Fucking wipes the whole house.

ThirstTrapLeon: white Yeah, and just wipes everybody out, and you're like, oh, yeah, this is... Or I think in the example, yeah I was like, it'd be like fucking just putting like...

ThirstTrapLeon: It's like Kratos in Silent Hill, right? It's just like, oh, yeah, here. here the This is what is this. I get it. It's scary. But like, here's Kratos. And you just fucking wipe everybody out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, that's what it feels like being Leon.

GraceAsscrack: it's really It's really... yeah It's cool, though, because like you get you get a break from all the the tension, but like in a way that you're still engaged in the game, and then you get a break from...

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: you all like you know pain it pains me a little bit to say this, because i don't feel the same i don't feel feel the same sentiments as a lot of other people, but you know the fucking...

GraceAsscrack: you're If you're going back to Resident Evil 4, even Resident Evil 4 Remake... there are times where you're kind of just like fucking slogging through. Like, it feels like you're doing work, just mowing through all those, all those ganados. And, you know, it's good to go back to, you know, reality. Like, oh, actually, this is the story we're actually following.

GraceAsscrack: And the the way they contrast it in the game is like, is it's done so incredibly well because like you, you, you instantly, like you, you instantly get,

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: like it's the It's like the meme of the guy like sitting up when he wants to get serious for the game. like That's how it is when you're Grace.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: You're just like, oh, okay, i gotta fucking I gotta put fucking five Zins in my mouth, and I gotta lock in right now because i could die at any moment. Whereas Leon, it's just like, oh How do I want to paint my my painting today with with the blood of my enemies?

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: You know what mean? how creative like How creative do I want to be with the action as Leon as opposed to how am I going to fucking survive as Grace?

Steve-O: Do I want to use the chainsaw?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Should I just use my guns? Maybe I'll so i'll throw in some melee, some axe ferries.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, that ah fucking execution move that he does with the Requiem is so sick, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Mm, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: It's so good. Oh, you know what? I'll get this out of the way right now, too, before we we go through the game.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: I like the hatchet. I'm still knife guy. Give me the knife over the hatchet.

ThirstTrapLeon: Mm.

Steve-O: Ooh, you know what? Controversial.

GraceAsscrack: Alright?

Steve-O: I'm going to say the opposite. I liked that I didn't have to keep picking up knives.

GraceAsscrack: You're a hatchet guy?

Steve-O: I could just sharpen it when it was dull.

GraceAsscrack: no I mean, you... Give me the fucking... Give me the sharpen... Give me the whetstone in Resident Evil 4 Remake.

Steve-O: Oh, okay. You want the wet stone in four?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, give me the fucking whetstone in Resident Evil 4 Remake, and and we're good.

Steve-O: Okay. who

Steve-O: That's fair.

GraceAsscrack: You know?

Steve-O: um

GraceAsscrack: It's just like, um it just feels... Dude, and then like... Actually, i don't want to talk about that part yet. But um yeah, let's just go through the game, right?

Steve-O: Okay.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: So... um what What did you guys think of the story?

Steve-O: um

GraceAsscrack: Because that's usually the weakest link for the series.

Steve-O: i think this story I think the story is good.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: i think there's some points in it that are like almost like you know silly or unrealistic. Like the FBI sends ah the daughter of a murder victim to the crime scene.

GraceAsscrack: Well, there's... Dude, well, you know what? You know what, though, Steve?

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: My rebuttal to that is the fact that they were trying to...

Steve-O: m

GraceAsscrack: That they, you know, the conspiracy is that they murdered Alyssa Ashcroft to cover this up. Maybe they were trying to do the same thing with Grace by sending her alone down there

Steve-O: No, like, that's ah that's a major possibility. Like, you are...

ThirstTrapLeon: But I guess it is odd because that guy never gets in comeuppance if that was the plan.

Steve-O: Well, to be fair, to be fair they they aren't trying to murder her.

ThirstTrapLeon: Right?

Steve-O: It seems...

GraceAsscrack: Oh, maybe they were just delivering delivering her to to get to victor to Victor, I guess, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: That's true, yeah.

Steve-O: the the The funny thing that i we after we beat it, we were like, okay, so basically the gist of Resident Evil 9 is ah we we need Grandpa's computer.

ThirstTrapLeon: But I mean, like...

Steve-O: Can you help us open Grandpa's computer?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah. um I'll be honest, like i I dug this story a lot. I think of this...

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's funny because, again...

GraceAsscrack: Was it better than 7th store to you, Devin?

Steve-O: Yes.

ThirstTrapLeon: So, Seven and One are great because of like the the simplicity of it, essentially.

GraceAsscrack: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's just like, oh, like your wife's gone missing, you think she's here, you go in, and then scary shit happens.

GraceAsscrack: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: Obviously, Seven... gets a little bumpy with like the the end stuff because you know the science facility no it does it does i just I really like the moments in 9 almost more than any other game though like the moments are great and then even the overall arching plot with like the sickness and everything really into that right because it's kind of like wait why is because Leon's essentially like he's doing this off book right like he doesn't have sanction to do this

GraceAsscrack: I mean, this one does a little bit too, I think. It's the same vein-ish.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I got TB.

Steve-O: Dude.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, he got TB, man.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, he used his personal vehicle, not a government vehicle.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: The poor shit.

ThirstTrapLeon: um

GraceAsscrack: His personal Porsche.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know my my issues my issues are with just some odd decisions regarding the ending or endings.

GraceAsscrack: with this story With the story, right?

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Yeah, I don't know.

GraceAsscrack: Because

ThirstTrapLeon: if Like, I'll just, you know, I got spoilers.

GraceAsscrack: I have a couple nitpicks, but they're not very significant, I would say.

ThirstTrapLeon: um

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. So, my...

Steve-O: That's mine. my Mine are more nitpicks. Like, why isn't she just, like, ripping that guy's arm off to get the band like the band in the hospital?

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay. Okay.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, underneath, yeah.

Steve-O: But, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: He's like, there's something under his arm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, yeah, yeah, stuff like that.

GraceAsscrack: I got to fucking, I got to Frankenstein him to get the fucking security band.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah, but ah so my my issues really were, one, the the bad ending is so inconsequential that I'm kind of annoyed it was even an option.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, if it led to...

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, you wanted... Oh, this is what he wanted, Steve. Devin wanted Expedition 33 style where Grace and Leon have to fight each other at the end.

ThirstTrapLeon: not not even. well actually... Listen, if it led to something.

GraceAsscrack: and And it's a matter of who's ready, who wants to give up their trauma. who the new The new person with the trauma or the veteran with the trauma?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: who Who's got to give it up?

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah but Do I want to leave traumatized?

Steve-O: i don't I don't know what the the bad ending gives you.

ThirstTrapLeon: So ah honestly, it's it's not even worth your load, re like a reloading of a thing.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: so So does it just it just game overs and then you can start over again and do it and do it over?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, so it's just like, it's just, it doesn't lead to an alternate boss fight.

GraceAsscrack: Is that what happens?

ThirstTrapLeon: It doesn't lead to anything big or dramatic because it's just like, the bad thing happens and then credits roll.

GraceAsscrack: Well, I mean, that's that's that's classic, though. You know?

Steve-O: I mean, I mean,

ThirstTrapLeon: No, but it like,

GraceAsscrack: you know The worst thing, Devin, the worst thing is that they would like is if they had two separate canonical adjacent, like, storylines that are completely different and then nobody knows what the real thing is like nobody knows if Rebecca yeah that no Resident Evil 2 or even Resident Evil 1 too where it's like you know is Rebecca alive or not like nobody really fucking knows and then it just you know like I'd rather them have a definitive ending which is the good ending and then the bad ending just game over and you made the wrong choice and then you just you know

ThirstTrapLeon: Isn't that just Resident Evil 2?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, she's alive.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, but it's just like, it was just like a weird, because that was when I mentioned a few weeks ago, like i was like, oh, I kind of saw spoiler. Like I saw that there were multiple endings and I was like,

ThirstTrapLeon: what? And then, and then I saw that and i was just like, I don't know. And I reloaded the save and i was just like, Oh, that's so it's.

GraceAsscrack: So do you think if you weren't spoiled, do you think you would have felt you still felt bad? Because, like, do you think that you expected more because of what you read?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. like It's basically, it's the equivalent of like a failed QTE e in Resident Evil four, you know, it's just like, Oh, Leon dies.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then you're sad. And then credits. And I was like, what the, okay. Whereas,

Steve-O: Okay, oh at least, you know, honestly, like, that's that's still something. I mean, we've we're past, you mentioned Sfoil of War.

ThirstTrapLeon: we're there we're there no so so but it's it's

GraceAsscrack: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

Steve-O: like But, like, at that point, like, you know, they're introducing those mechanics.

GraceAsscrack: but just kidding

Steve-O: like Like, when they introduce the sickness mechanics where, like, Leon starts stumbling and seeing purple, like, in the middle of, like, fights.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, when he's full-blown Arthur Morgan.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah but again it's just it's so inconsequential of like a of an ending and so just like okay you chose wrong and and here's

GraceAsscrack: Like, he's Arthur Morgan.

Steve-O: Yeah.

Steve-O: You can like reboot your save there though, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: It's 30 seconds, dude. It's 30 seconds.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, I...

ThirstTrapLeon: No, yeah. And like my, you know, I, the first choice I, I,

GraceAsscrack: No, it's just... It just feels like it's just a game over, right? You just picked the wrong thing.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah, that's what I mean. It just feels like a game over.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like it wasn't, no, I get it, but it's so whatever that it's like odd that it was like this big, like choice.

GraceAsscrack: Well, that's fine. I think that's fine.

Steve-O: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm like, I don't know.

GraceAsscrack: i'm glad you know I'm glad that it's...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: um'm I'm actually glad that it it isn't some big choice, to be honest, because that's not what the ending should have been. and you you just

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, but that's that's my point.

GraceAsscrack: That's just like, you chose you chose wrong you chose wrong because you didn't you didn't pick up on some of the context beforehand, and then this is actually what it really is.

ThirstTrapLeon: is like It should have just been...

Steve-O: also Also, shame for you in doubting the fact that Leon couldn't kill whatever was thrown at him, had it been a worst case scenario.

GraceAsscrack: And I'm ah and i'm okay i'm okay with that.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah but like...

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, no, he definitely doesn't kill. He gets fucking murdered a pretty...

GraceAsscrack: He just dies.

Steve-O: No, no, no, no. I meant in the opposite, where it's like the fact that, like, you know, release Elpis and you're like, oh, what if it's like the ultimate bio weapon?

ThirstTrapLeon: oh yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: no it's pretty it's pretty it's pretty No, it's pretty well defined that T-Virus Leon was unable to seal the deal.

Steve-O: Leon would have spin kicked it. It would have been fine.

GraceAsscrack: just He just doesn't turn into a tyrant.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah. um

GraceAsscrack: Because I was afraid...

Steve-O: i

GraceAsscrack: I was afraid... Yo, real talk. I was afraid that the T-Vias was going to turn him into a fucking tyrant and then you'd have to fight him. Like, I was i was pretty...

Steve-O: Oh, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: But like but like but like what if that was like the bad...

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: I would have been pissed.

ThirstTrapLeon: If they went there, it would have at least been like interesting. like This is so not interesting that it almost felt just like, Oh, you got the puzzle wrong and her head blew up.

GraceAsscrack: No, because like if they get give you...

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Here's the here's and here's like the Neanderthal take on this. like This is my own personal Neanderthal take. if they If they do that, then you kind of just like waste your time fighting this boss, and then the ending doesn't even count because it's the bad ending, and it and it's not canon.

Steve-O: And you'll just reboot your save, like, at that point.

GraceAsscrack: So it's You'll just reboot your save do it again.

ThirstTrapLeon: Right. But but again, the arguments like the argument that I'm making is that they shouldn't have even given you a choice.

GraceAsscrack: You know? That's my Neanderthal take.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like a big choice.

GraceAsscrack: That's how I felt.

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: That's how I felt at the end of Expedition 33, Devin.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because not...

GraceAsscrack: oh there you go.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, God.

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: There you have it.

Steve-O: that' Hold on, hold on.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, because...

Steve-O: Okay, you brought this...

GraceAsscrack: There you have it.

Steve-O: You brought Resident Evil to a whole dangerous place!

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no, no, no. No, because there's there's like actual quandaries.

GraceAsscrack: Get in there and make this about Expedition 33.

Steve-O: ha ha!

ThirstTrapLeon: There's quandaries and there's an actual ending.

GraceAsscrack: You get in there and make Resident Evil Requiem about Expedition 33.

ThirstTrapLeon: right. My other slight issue, is probably bigger in terms of just the lore consequences. it feels like an It feels like an odd decision to like attempt to rehabilitate Spencer.

GraceAsscrack: Man, this sound like a Mary to me.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, what? Like, oh, he felt bad. It's like, okay. And I get it. They weren't like, he was a good guy the whole time. Like, I get that they're not doing that, but it's just like nuance and Resident Evil villains just do not mix.

ThirstTrapLeon: And it seems like an odd decision.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. I guess, but at the same time...

ThirstTrapLeon: They're just he felt bad at the end of his life. It's like, okay.

GraceAsscrack: No, but I mean, if you if you think about it, like, you know, on terms of like global shit, he doesn't even end up being the arbiter of all the stuff that he created anyway.

ThirstTrapLeon: But at least...

Steve-O: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: Right, yeah, yeah, especially if you read, like, the grace files and all that.

GraceAsscrack: So it's kind of like, it's kind of like an, ah yeah, it's kind of like a, it's kind of like an Oppenheimer situation where, you know, he kind of did it because he did it.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: a

GraceAsscrack: And then like, I don't want to.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, but see, that's the problem, is people are going to say, it's like, no, he was, like, still actively experimenting on humans, like, in a bad way.

GraceAsscrack: Right, right, right.

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: He's still bad, yeah, but at the same time, i kind of kind of liked the fact that they used a very tiny piece of empathy in his in his soul to to create to create what Grace's character essentially was, which was not special.

ThirstTrapLeon: right yeah

Steve-O: Yeah.

Steve-O: I mean, i mean that's what but that's what Grace gave him, too. It's like Grace entered his life and he saw that.

GraceAsscrack: Right. So like ah I'm okay with it. I'm i'm not against it.

Steve-O: I loved it because I also loved Victor Gideon's take on it where he was like, oh, dude, in a world where everyone's using bioweapons, just the ability to take those away.

GraceAsscrack: And I think...

Steve-O: oh that's awesome.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Like, I love that there's like that view of it.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. And I think that's that take that take of it.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: He like totally misread it.

GraceAsscrack: So I think, yeah, I think.

ThirstTrapLeon: You think? You think he just misread it? He was like, oh.

Steve-O: I love Victor Gideon. He is probably like one of my top Resident Evil villains in recent memory.

ThirstTrapLeon: Victor Gideon. I think he's my favorite.

GraceAsscrack: He's he might be yeah he like, okay right give me give me top five.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's probably the best one.

GraceAsscrack: Give me top five right now.

Steve-O: i can give you bottom.

ThirstTrapLeon: All right.

Steve-O: It's fucking ah Heisenberg from 8.

GraceAsscrack: that that's what i was told that I was like I feel like Victor Gideon is what they pretty much kind of wanted Heisenberg to become and then they just couldn't get there with with what they were given

ThirstTrapLeon: But it was...

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, like, in terms of, like like, it's Wesker, Victor Gideon, and then everybody else, I think.

Steve-O: yeah

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: And, like, Wesker, like, who's is there anyone even close?

GraceAsscrack: okay uh Salazar i love Salazar

Steve-O: Salazar's real good, but ah you know what?

ThirstTrapLeon: No. no, he's a...

Steve-O: I love Salazar. I think Victor Gideon's up there.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no, because Victor Gideon's, like, he's effective,

Steve-O: I think he's higher than him.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's interesting.

Steve-O: Yeah, just the way he talks.

ThirstTrapLeon: And he does, like, cool shit. like Like, dude, the very first moment where he's, like, walking he's walking away from Leon and he's just needling the people. Like, I was like, that is...

Steve-O: Oh, I love that.

ThirstTrapLeon: So cool. And then you see him, you know, you see him fucking with a rocket launcher chasing on a motorcycle.

Steve-O: a

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, that's so fucking cool.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: and And then, you know, you kind of have this like little, the little mention nod at the end that he's he's actually like a nemesis project.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, ah in that sense, wouldn't you put him over Wesker then?

Steve-O: He's a nemesis. Yeah, that's fucking awesome.

ThirstTrapLeon: no that's what I mean.

GraceAsscrack: Because wessters because like Wesker's...

ThirstTrapLeon: I think that, I think he's above Wesker.

GraceAsscrack: yeah Because basically just...

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm,

GraceAsscrack: he's your run- of-the-mill like, action villain. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, because you you kind of need you kind of need a guy like that.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, but he's he's he's kind of stereotypical. and And he's almost a meme of himself at this point, right?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but you kind of need that. Yeah, and you're fighting you're fighting the meme, which is fine.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah.

Steve-O: I mean, is that is that what we're calling Zemo?

ThirstTrapLeon: So...

Steve-O: Zemo is the meme?

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, actually actually, you know, maybe maybe another critique is like that they just never...

GraceAsscrack: He's Diet Wesker.

Steve-O: Wesker meme?

GraceAsscrack: I was just calling Diet Wesker. Yeah, was just calling him Diet Wesker.

ThirstTrapLeon: They they introduced Zeno. He's very clearly... I thought he was just going to admit he was Wasker. Because it's like, you're clearly Wesker with a fucking earring.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then they don't pull the trigger.

GraceAsscrack: Well, yeah, I guess they kind of allude to it

ThirstTrapLeon: They don't pull the trigger and then they kill him. Allude that he's like a pot, potentially a clone.

GraceAsscrack: And you only, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: But it's just like the fact that there's no data in the game outside like these little things. I'm like, it almost feels like something's missing. Right.

Steve-O: We're going to get a DLC, guaranteed.

ThirstTrapLeon: it's like. Fucking because his gun's sick too, dude.

Steve-O: Oh, he' dude, he's got the fucking Joker gun!

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, got little Joker gun.

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: And Leon says cool quips about it. He's oh, don't you fancy? And I was like, this fucking rules, dude.

GraceAsscrack: should've wore a helmet.

ThirstTrapLeon: And yeah, such a good line.

GraceAsscrack: You should've wore a helmet.

ThirstTrapLeon: um and And again, like I i am like i am.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, he's in the end.

Steve-O: Leon's top tier quips in this one.

GraceAsscrack: But they're sad. Like, he's sad quips.

Steve-O: They're sad quips.

GraceAsscrack: Like, I mean, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah, because he's he has AIDS. He has T-Virus AIDS, dude. Like he's on his way out.

GraceAsscrack: And like, you know, and like, guess aside from the Grace stuff, like, you know, maybe this is just nostalgia and just being a fucking, like,

Steve-O: Dude, when...

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: like day zero, like die hard for the series. But like, I was a little emotional, like seeing Leon go back in the RPD. Like it, like it like really like tug at me a little bit.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. I know. I think that's, they really, they really nailed that.

GraceAsscrack: You know, I was like, shit, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Um,

GraceAsscrack: It's really good. You know, like.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, i I was, dude, when when you get to that point where, like, you could see the tanker in the car, I was like, Jenny, come here. Look, did you, this is, like, I was showing her.

GraceAsscrack: This is important.

Steve-O: with

GraceAsscrack: This is important.

ThirstTrapLeon: was like, look, that's the tanker that blew up, and there's the car.

GraceAsscrack: there's the Statue of Liberty. It's just like, know,

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, like, I was showing her. I was like, oh, it's so fucking sick. cause And again, like, I've mentioned this a few times, but, like, to reiterate, I have been replaying the modern Resident Evil games, like, in the weeks prior to this.

ThirstTrapLeon: So, Resident Evil 2 Remake was very fresh in my brain.

Steve-O: yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Same with three remake for skipped seven because I played that like two years ago, but I was I was playing eight the day of nine coming out. Right. So I'm very, very fresh on all of this.

ThirstTrapLeon: So i was like, oh, my God, so sick. But like, again, in terms of like the nostalgia player, quote unquote, like nostalgia play, I don't think it's very rare to nail it as hard as they did with the RPD stuff.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, and then they fucking, they even threw, like, it wasn't constant, but, like, the fucking RPD, like, soundtrack chime would just come in at the most, like, opportune moments.

Steve-O: oh yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, dude.

GraceAsscrack: Like, the quietest moments, you'll just hear it. The do-do-do-do-do. And I was just like, oh, man, this is fucking, this is crazy.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, you know what actually weirdly

GraceAsscrack: I'm like, all these fucking millennials that didn't want Leon in this game, they have no idea, they're not they're not getting the full experience from this game.

Steve-O: They don't know.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. You know what kind of weirdly stuck with me is so the coolest one of the coolest things I think is like there's only like two zombies in the whole police department because obviously a nuke went off like fucking five miles away from it.

GraceAsscrack: you know Yeah.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: But Leon sees that one zombie and it's not like he he doesn't quote like quip. But he's just like so sad because he's like, oh, man.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like he he says like a comment.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, he was like, he what did he say? He was just like, He's just like rest in peace officer or something or something like that.

ThirstTrapLeon: He didn't.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: like He says something like that.

ThirstTrapLeon: It wasn't even like he wasn't like Jesus Christ, but he's just like disappointed and disgusted.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, he's like rest easy or something.

ThirstTrapLeon: it

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: That's right. Rest easy, officer.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Or something.

GraceAsscrack: That's the easy officer.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. He's like disappointed and disgusted that they're still he's like it really bums him out.

GraceAsscrack: and easy yeah That Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's like, oh, my God, they're still here.

GraceAsscrack: That he wasn't able to do it. That he wasn't able to

Steve-O: He wasn't able to kill them all.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah. But like...

Steve-O: There was two left. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Whoa! So like...

GraceAsscrack: to... Two dog tags he didn't get.

ThirstTrapLeon: i Yeah.

Steve-O: but

ThirstTrapLeon: So like...

GraceAsscrack: and is It is COD campaign.

ThirstTrapLeon: And again, so you you're you're going through the mansion and then and then you have the nice little confluence of events, right? You you get there, you you see basically Albert Wesker and I was like, oh my God, because they had never met.

ThirstTrapLeon: And he does the fucking, the Wesker dodge. And I was like, this is so fucking sick.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then the fucking Mr.

GraceAsscrack: and they

ThirstTrapLeon: X shows up.

Steve-O: Oh my God, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, this is so fucking sick.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man. Did you scream? i screamed. I was like, yes!

Steve-O: Dude, I did the, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, dude. Yeah. So I was.

Steve-O: Dude, when he punches Leon and Leon's like, oh, I didn't miss that.

ThirstTrapLeon: I remember that. Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: I remember that. Yeah, dude. and And again, it's like I told both of you this, but I really think it's a deliberate choice with some of the sound design. Like when you're walking around RPD as Leon, I swear to God, it's the same sound effect as when Mr. X was doing stomping around RE2 remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like he's just because he's the fucking danger, you know, in that point.

Steve-O: Yeah, Leon's definitely beefier and heavier to move in comparison to remake or for remake, in my opinion.

GraceAsscrack: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. and and it was just And it was just sick because it's like, yeah, Leon from RE4... would have cooked ne or Mr. X, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: And then Leon in RE8, basically, you know, he's treated as a fucking mini boss, which is like appropriate and it's sick.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah,

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: And it's just like, it does exactly what you want it to do. Plus the cool callbacks um with like the stars puzzle, the tofu.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Yeah, which funny enough, John didn't see.

Steve-O: The Rebecca photo in the book.

GraceAsscrack: yeah i didn't see that one.

Steve-O: Dude, that's because when you open up Wesker's drawer, you got to like fucking click on it a bunch of times.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, got wait like two seconds for But it...

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. I remember seeing that photo, though, and I think, RE2 remake. I think that same photo is in there.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. But it's funny.

Steve-O: That's the same exact one.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's funny, though, because John still did... He's like, oh, I opened a briefcase. And I said, how? You didn't get the picture. And he's like, I just guessed.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, I just tried. You guys don't just try fucking random shit when you first see it?

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, every I tried a little bit, but I...

Steve-O: They do an interesting thing with that briefcase one because they make it so slow to tumble on that one specifically.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: They do.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, so I was looking for RPD. I don't think RPD was possible.

Steve-O: You got to think of the movie?

GraceAsscrack: But I was like, let me just try RRR, my favorite movie.

ThirstTrapLeon: you yeah That's very funny that they've just popped for you though.

GraceAsscrack: my My favorite movie of all time.

Steve-O: you

GraceAsscrack: Let me try this. No, no, but also, you know, because started with R and i was like, let me just, I usually do like a couple quick checks and then if I can't do it get it, then it's whatever.

GraceAsscrack: I'll figure it i'll figure it out later.

Steve-O: Yeah. On the back of the photo, it says like radical rookie Rebecca, like something stupid like that.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah Yeah. Yeah. Rising rookie Rebecca, or I'm sorry.

Steve-O: That's it. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: What do you even get from that?

ThirstTrapLeon: It's,

GraceAsscrack: You got the the sunglass charm from that?

ThirstTrapLeon: You get the magnum charm, which is the sunglasses, which is, it's a pretty sick charm.

Steve-O: You get the sunglass charm. Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: um and And just even before that, like, one of my perceived complaints was I was like, man, it just kind of feels like Leon's so fun, but I'm only Leon for a little bit.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then once you open up and you're in, like, the outskirts of the city or wherever you are, and then you get the chest, and then it's, like, has all the guns and the points and all that, and I was like,

Steve-O: yeah.

Steve-O: Mm

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, let me talk about that.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yes! Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Because like, that's a really, really fucking cool way to just streamline Leon's part and not make it a cumbers cumbers a cumbersome experience, but still make it the same, essentially, as Resident Evil 4, right? They're like, let's just do it. And it makes sense. kind of I mean, I don't want to say like, oh, yeah, you earn money.

GraceAsscrack: But like, they make it kind of make sense in the context of the world, right?

Steve-O: I mean, in Resident Evil 3, it's all about combat experience, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: It makes as much sense as ah as a Combat data.

Steve-O: Data.

GraceAsscrack: Right, yeah.

Steve-O: Combat data. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, it makes as much sense as a merchant does, essentially, like in terms of like what makes sense in this world.

GraceAsscrack: Perfect dodge.

ThirstTrapLeon: like Yeah, a merchant's always welcome, right?

Steve-O: and

ThirstTrapLeon: That's always kind of sick, but like this is fine.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, I love my merchants, man.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, just just getting...

GraceAsscrack: This is fine.

ThirstTrapLeon: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: My only, my nitpick... Okay, well, before I get to my nitpick, I love that specific, like... mechanic to Leon's gameplay because it like it's the opposite of grace they're like how many fucking zombies can you kill in each section before coming back to save like they like kind of like make you want to be more aggressive as Leon which you should be anyway but like that's how they kind of like kind of like game design tail tailor you to play the game they want to they want you to play as opposed to like you know, playing, you play half the game as Grace, and then you're kind of like, you know, if, I don't know if you, if people use the same perspective for both, but if you're using the same perspective for both characters, it might, like, and especially if you don't have that much experience with the series at all, it might just force you to try to play the same way the whole time, and you really shouldn't.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. in

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah, like, no, now you're going to hunt.

ThirstTrapLeon: easily

GraceAsscrack: that The way you get the most out of it is by fucking shredding flesh with Leon, and they're like,

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: You're going to do it. This is how you do it.

ThirstTrapLeon: And that air that area is so well tailored because it's like, oh, this is a big sandbox area.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: So like you're going to want to explore four points.

GraceAsscrack: You're going to want to explore.

Steve-O: Go check out the gas station, stuff like that.

GraceAsscrack: your Yeah. you yeah they we You're going to want to backtrack and we're not going to make it old school horror backtracking where you're scared all the time. It's like, oh, let me go back there.

GraceAsscrack: See what's over there anyway, even though it's dark because I'm i'm the Terminator and nothing's going to get in my way. Right.

Steve-O: a

GraceAsscrack: So that was really cool. My nitpick though. um And I know this is like purely a microscopic nitpick, I would say in the grand scheme of things, because you can't just expect them to, to like go this deep, but it would have been kind of cool to just have more gun variety.

GraceAsscrack: Like, cause the, the guns work, you know, like the alligators, alligator snapper, really like that's, I mean,

Steve-O: I agree. Yeah. I would have loved to get a ah broken black tail.

GraceAsscrack: That's the the handgun I ended up using the most, but it's like, dude, throw me a fucking, book just give me red, knife give me the red nine, dude, like something, you know?

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

Steve-O: i so I switched in my original to the Silence Nine, and it's fine.

GraceAsscrack: Because it had nine in it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: so if

Steve-O: It's good. um But i'm I'm doing a second playthrough now, and I made sure I bought with my endgame points, I bought the Matilda Imp.

ThirstTrapLeon: mean, it's a better gun, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Matilda, yeah.

Steve-O: And like that, oh my goodness, once you get like all the the stuff on it, yeah, you're just like shredding people.

GraceAsscrack: Okay, it's three bursts. It's three bursts. Yeah.

Steve-O: it feels It feels good.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but it's like... What did I what did i tell you, Devin? What was my my loadout? Okay, so like...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: The sniper... The sniper that you find in the bsa BSAA chest is like is dog shit. The fucking semi-auto one. Like, it was bad.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, I can't use this. So I sold it. I just stuck with the the classic fucking bolt action.

Steve-O: Same here. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: which is Which was really good. Ended up being really useful... in the end game stuff because you could just, you could just pop those, the plant 43 ceilings pretty much one shot them.

Steve-O: It's so powerful.

ThirstTrapLeon: e

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: And then, um, the other thing was, Oh, so I, I couldn't decide cause I, I upgraded the, they that's the other thing. They made it too easy to max out your gun with upgrades too.

GraceAsscrack: Like, cause there's only a couple upgrades for each thing.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: And, um, cause like, you know, Resident Evil four, You got to get through this tier of of upgrades, then you can get you can get more stuff later.

GraceAsscrack: i was kind of waiting for that, especially when you see the note saying that you get weapon upgrades somewhere in and an RPD, but it wasn't.

Steve-O: Oh,

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, there there is a Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Steve-O: in like the garage, the parking garage. Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, there is a challenge where if you did...

GraceAsscrack: But it was just the shotgun.

ThirstTrapLeon: i think it's if you shoot all the the statues. Like, you unlock a new tier of upgrade. But it's but it's tied behind a challenge.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, really? But it's like hidden. It's hidden.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, you gotta... Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, it's challenge. Yeah, so so what what I ended up doing, Steve, I told this to Devin before, was I couldn't decide because like I upgraded the TAC-99 shotgun all the way up, and it was really useful.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: I even put the site on it, so it was like you know really good for um close combat shit, like you know crowd control. But then you get and you get fucking Kendo's shotgun, right?

GraceAsscrack: And that shotgun is so good that it's incredible, dude.

Steve-O: Is it?

ThirstTrapLeon: that's shock Oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: That thing is a beast.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, you didn't mess around with that one, Steve?

Steve-O: oh No, I didn't because I saw the stats.

GraceAsscrack: Steve, it's... No, no, no, dude.

Steve-O: Oh.

GraceAsscrack: It's a beast, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I think <unk> i think that's the gun that I used to take... I didn't even use the Requiem once on on the Tyrant. And then... Yeah, because I just had two shotguns. I didn't have to reload them.

GraceAsscrack: So I...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, you just swapped for...

Steve-O: Oh, that makes sense.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, so I just switched from one shotgun to the other when I ran out of ammo, and then I just had, like, basically 20... just basically had 20 shotgun rounds that were fully upgraded at that point.

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: So, yeah, so I ran around with fucking two shotguns. But, you know, I mean, it's Resident Evil 4 Leon, so you just have everything.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I just wish, you know, the handgun... I just wish the handgun...

ThirstTrapLeon: Variety.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, the handgun variety... wish the handgun variety was better, because...

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: and

ThirstTrapLeon: i I dug the Silence Nine, but like, I just wish it wasn't silent. Like, I don't know.

Steve-O: Right, like the fact that he's like, felt wimpy.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's. Yeah. And I was like, no, want something that little beast.

GraceAsscrack: No, I want something loud.

ThirstTrapLeon: thee Yeah, dude.

GraceAsscrack: I like the name all i like to name Alligator Snapper, but like it just seems like the nomenclature for the guns took a downgrade.

Steve-O: It does you more damage, but it's not.

GraceAsscrack: Because you go from Red 9, Blacktail, Broken Butterfly, Killer 7.

Steve-O: Blacktail.

Steve-O: I was waiting to see one of those. Just one.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, something.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Give me one. yeah but Just give me one. you know It doesn't matter which one. Give me give me the Silver Ghost from... Resident Evil 4 remake. Give me the SG-09 too. Like, give me something, you know?

GraceAsscrack: Don't give me this fucking base-ass DSO handgun that they... Like, even says in the description, like, oh, this the standard issue for DSO. I'm like, no.

Steve-O: Standard.

GraceAsscrack: This is fucking...

Steve-O: Leon's not standard issue.

GraceAsscrack: This is Leon fucking Kennedy, dude.

Steve-O: I guess Requiem is his non-standard issue gun.

GraceAsscrack: Like... I guess. But, like, yeah, maybe they wanted to keep it so that you have one legendary weapon and it's the the Requiem and, like, that you want to just keep it that way.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: um But that Did you guys end up using that a lot as grace?

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: What, the Requiem?

GraceAsscrack: and It really was a get out of jail for free card.

Steve-O: i Yeah. i I held off as much as possible because i knew I was going to be fighting some stuff probably.

ThirstTrapLeon: It was.

GraceAsscrack: And it doesn't...

ThirstTrapLeon: i I'll be honest. it's It's actually a slight complaint that I had. is um

GraceAsscrack: too easy but to use as grace.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no. I didn't like how much of a pain in the ass it was to craft ammo for it.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. I mean, it has to be.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because you can only get the rare metals for lockpicking.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah, the rare metal.

ThirstTrapLeon: But then each...

GraceAsscrack: evan You know what? That's a good thing, though.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no. but I'm saying this is my argument. I don't like that you can't stack the rare metal. Like, each rare metal is its own slot.

GraceAsscrack: Dude.

Steve-O: Oh, in the inventory? I didn't know that.

ThirstTrapLeon: So I kept finding myself...

GraceAsscrack: Bro.

ThirstTrapLeon: And so by the time i had enough, i was I kind of didn't need it, right? Because I was loaded up on fucking Hema Goblin or Exploders or whatever.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah. and you have low albumven He him he he he injectors.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah, those injectors. So, like... i ah i just I just wiped everybody in the hospital at that point.

GraceAsscrack: But it's like.

Steve-O: Yeah. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, I didn't need it.

GraceAsscrack: But it was like the perfect Resident Evil 2 OG throwback, where you like where you blast you blast the crowd with the with the magnum, and then you can just run away.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. it like And listen, I will.

GraceAsscrack: like that's how i That's how they used it.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Now, you you know what my most satisfying moment was? as ah um I'm creeping. I'm creeping around. I'm like near the end of my time in that in that hospital area.

ThirstTrapLeon: or the hotel, whatever it's called, right? And I, yeah, Rhodes Hill and the the fucking chef who had been the number one guy who killed me every time.

GraceAsscrack: Road to Hill.

Steve-O: Oh, Meat Man.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man, he's the goat.

ThirstTrapLeon: he was the dude

Steve-O: He's got, dude, he's got a combo hit that insta-kills you.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, he's got the combo hit, and like before you even get anything, he would just cleave you, and then he'd just dig.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: It was a one hit, right?

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: This guy kicked my ass the entire fucking time, and then I finally had enough bullets.

GraceAsscrack: Hell yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because I shot him with the Requiem, and he didn't go down, and I was like...

GraceAsscrack: You had like 12 bullets in your reserve, so you're just like, I'm going it down.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, and and he's he's in like the the the dining hall and he's just chopping meat and I was just creeping.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: i was crouched and I just shot, I one shot and blew his fucking head off. And then the trophy popped and I was like, that was so goddamn satisfying. Because I knew he, and and it was like a bonus because I didn't even see the note.

ThirstTrapLeon: I was like, I bet you he has the key to the pantry.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, of course he does.

ThirstTrapLeon: So it was like my intuition.

Steve-O: it's a little more word

ThirstTrapLeon: crouched. I just it was so cathartic to blow that fucking dude's head off. And it was like really so like he just but and went sideways and I got the pantry, got all this extra dope shit.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, God, that felt good, you know?

Steve-O: You know you know what also felt good?

ThirstTrapLeon: And.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Sticking him with a hemolytic ah injection.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh.

GraceAsscrack: how I think that's why i killed how I killed him.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, that's what you got him with.

Steve-O: He pops.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Dude, you can do it on the fucking chunky big guy

ThirstTrapLeon: Can you?

Steve-O: Like the one that fills up the whole eye.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Oh, i didn't i didn't know you could do it on him.

Steve-O: You have to hit him with three.

GraceAsscrack: Three injectors?

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh my

Steve-O: You need to do three injectors.

GraceAsscrack: Bro!

ThirstTrapLeon: That's probably worth it.

GraceAsscrack: How much blood did you use? Oh my god.

Steve-O: Yeah, it was a lot. But here's the thing. He drops a special charm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Fuck. I got to it.

GraceAsscrack: What's the charm? What's it do?

Steve-O: ah The charm, ah it makes sure that, like, you know any attack that would, like, insta-kill you.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: It basically leaves you down to one. So, like, it's like a get-out-of-jail-free card.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, okay.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, it's um Last Stand.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, that's useful. Thank you.

Steve-O: It's like Last Stand.

GraceAsscrack: It's a Call Duty last stand.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah No, because that's another challenge I didn't do, which is like kill the fat guy as as Grace.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man. That's cool. That's... the

Steve-O: Hmm?

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, dude, I just don't have... I don't have to...

GraceAsscrack: Man, Grace is so fucking...

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, so...

GraceAsscrack: She's got no space. She's got no inventory space, bro.

ThirstTrapLeon: She really doesn't, dude.

Steve-O: yeah Dude, you are like literally like making concessions throughout that entire game.

GraceAsscrack: reg you

ThirstTrapLeon: Which is, again, it's like the point. and and i guess And I guess to just really jump into it, because we're glazing Leon, playing as Grace is...

GraceAsscrack: Classic. Yeah, it's classic.

Steve-O: home Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: very, it's like, I understand the goal of what they were going for and they nailed it.

GraceAsscrack: They got it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like they, it wasn't like, oh, I see what they were going for.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, they nailed it, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: It didn't quite work. Like, nah, dude, this works.

GraceAsscrack: Nah, dude. Nah, they got it.

Steve-O: The fear is there.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: And it works and it works throughout, throughout the end of the game.

Steve-O: The horror is there.

GraceAsscrack: The contrast... Yeah, the contrast... Yeah, because yeah the one thing I want to point out is like... In the end, when you're in Ark... Like, you go through...

GraceAsscrack: you fucking... you fucking you you You go through with Leon... And then... You're like, oh, it's grace time, right? So like...

Steve-O: yeah Right, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: After like, clearing out... Hordes of fucking... dudes with Leon then you got to play as Grace and it's like oh fuck there's licker on the wall i have two bullets how am I gonna get through this and it's it's really like my my like one of my most satisfying moments was like just getting the the magnetic key where and I'm even like I didn't blow anybody's head off Devin but what I did it was classic Resident Evil just classic Resident Evil like you know like um

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: just like thought thought process where there's two liquors. I used an empty bottle, got them grouped up through a fucking acid on a bottle of acid on them.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: They die. But then id go into the room to get the key and there's two fucking like regular zombies in there.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah,

GraceAsscrack: So, you know what i did? i just popped, I popped each of them once in the head and just ran by them. And it just, it, it took me back to old school resident evil.

ThirstTrapLeon: because even at the end of the game, you still have to like conserve for with her.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: You still got to fucking – yeah, you still – dude, yeah, there was a – yeah, and then there was a moment where there was another, I think, liquor or something chasing me, and I just fucking – Mission Impossible fucking threw the key in the thing and went through the door the very last second.

Steve-O: You're weaving and

GraceAsscrack: And I was just like, yeah, this is it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: This is him.

Steve-O: this it's everything they everything they did with grace is far and away like everything that was kind of like old school resident evil and it fixed all the kind of like weirdities that ethan from seven and eight had where none of that was like like there was scares there definitely but you know it was weird

GraceAsscrack: This movie is him.

ThirstTrapLeon: was mostly just him receiving insane amount of damage and then putting his limbs back on. He's like, that was weird.

Steve-O: Yeah, like, I'm so glad that, like, whenever he was, like, whenever Grace was healing, it wasn't her pouring fucking sauce all over her hands.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, the Robitas and shit.

Steve-O: Yeah, like, they actually did it where, like, you know, you stick yourself with, like, the little injector to heal.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Like, it's like, all right, this makes sense to me.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: I get it.

GraceAsscrack: Nah, it's so, like...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: It's so humbling, and then, you know, even going back to Leon, too, it's like... There there was one part where there was, like, 12 Lakers that just fucking... whored to do towards the end and that was probably the only time i was actually kind of stressed as leon i think i actually did yeah and then there's just like like there's like 15 lakers or some shit it was it i was like

Steve-O: Oh, when you're waiting for the elevator?

ThirstTrapLeon: i don't know what happened, but I killed all the liquors before the ah the elevator even happened.

GraceAsscrack: yeah no no i yeah i it wasn't it was right before the elevator but i ended up i i sniped a couple of them and then like 10 ran into the corridor.

GraceAsscrack: I was hiding it. So good thing. Good thing. I had two shotguns fully loaded because the, the other thing was, I, you,

Steve-O: That's a good call.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, there was a point where I pulled out the Requiem and I was going to town because I was like, I can't. I can't deal with all these goddamn Lickers.

GraceAsscrack: dude, I didn't, I feel like I, I feel I didn't use the Requiem at all with Leon towards the end.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what?

GraceAsscrack: Just cause I,

ThirstTrapLeon: Again, micro micro complaint.

Steve-O: I was saving it too much.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Well, that's what we all do with the Magnum rounds, right?

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Micro complaint. The gun is too expensive to upgrade. I was like, ah this is I don't I'd rather upgrade my my other guns than this thing.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. No, no, no. It's it's classic. it's classic like You don't upgrade those. You don't upgrade you know't upgrade the Broken Butterfly on the first on the first on the first playthrough because it's kind of pointless because it's already like mega powerful anyway, so it's it's kind of like diminishing returns at that point.

ThirstTrapLeon: You don't like need to, really. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. But, you know, I was like, oh, yeah, I'll upgrade. It was like 10,000 points. And I was like, I don't have.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, fuck that.

ThirstTrapLeon: Come on, man.

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, you I'd rather get us ah No, but but I guess my issue too is like...

ThirstTrapLeon: Goddamn.

GraceAsscrack: i was playing it like resident evil 4 and i first thing i did was upgrade the handgun and i ended up not even using the handgun that much uh even towards the end yeah it was the shotgun and then and the sniper and the um uh fucking who yeah who am i 2026 but i'm using a fucking smg as as as leon kennedy but that was

ThirstTrapLeon: Mm, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: The SMG?

Steve-O: Yeah, dude, at that end part, they are pouring out those machine gun bullets for you.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but like, it's like half a clip of the SMG. Yeah, yeah, they're they're giving you all the bullets. So I was like, I probably shouldn't sell this just because, I mean, a part of me wanted to sell it with the with the theory that they would drop more of the bullets of the guns I did have.

GraceAsscrack: So maybe, and like, maybe there's something there. But I had so much reserve ammo and you can't sell ammo.

Steve-O: No.

GraceAsscrack: So it's like, ah like I was like, I'll just use it.

Steve-O: no

GraceAsscrack: And I didn't even i didn't even get the the fancy SMG. I just used the... the

Steve-O: The basic one, that's the one I did too.

GraceAsscrack: the regular yeah the uzi yeah and it's like yeah and then it's like like for you it's like half a clip took out a liquor so it was like that was that's two liquors right there and then i had like 17 shotgun shells ready for the other ones so i didn't really use grenades that much either which

Steve-O: Yeah, it sounds like we played very similarly, John.

Steve-O: Yeah.

Steve-O: I used... I did use grenades a lot because I just kept ending up with them.

GraceAsscrack: it's the bliss the blister heads i would just burn them on the blister heads because those guys were those those guys are the real those guys are the real legends in uh

Steve-O: I'd be like, oh, right.

Steve-O: Dude. Dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, I'm not going to lie. I kept trying to convince myself that I could hatch at the blister heads. Like, I'm hitting them with, like, a 12-hit combo, and they're not going down.

GraceAsscrack: Nah, dude. na du Nah, dude. They're like clickers, but like on crack, dude. like They're just like...

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, they're they're rough, dude.

GraceAsscrack: They're impossible to just... Yeah, and I guess that's what... I mean... i really You know and Fuck this game. cause i This game usually...

Steve-O: but

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Okay.

GraceAsscrack: Because I want to use my handgun as Leon, and I didn't really use it.

Steve-O: o

GraceAsscrack: you know But i I'm not going to use that as...

Steve-O: You have to switch over to the shotgun.

GraceAsscrack: Because, don't know. It just feels like in the... Even in Resident Evil 2 Remake... Like, the handgun was your best friend in that in that game. And Resident Evil 4 remake, that's a set you essentially have a Requiem. with ah Any fully upgraded handgun in Resident Evil 4 is basically the Requiem in that game anyway.

GraceAsscrack: So, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah

GraceAsscrack: they Yeah, so, i yeah, that if if we're going to do that, like, so I would say on terms of Grace's gameplay,

ThirstTrapLeon: Nah, man. That's a kill.

GraceAsscrack: like eons above ethan's if you're doing the direct comparison right like this is just how it should be like i don't care if you're ethan winner's truther like they did it perfectly in this game like that stuff is perfect the resident evil 4 stuff or the the leon stuff i would say the combat is really amazing is incredible fun masterful but i still think resident before remake just is just a little bit more polished and that's

Steve-O: Yeah. Oh my god.

ThirstTrapLeon: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Solely based on the fact that the whole game is like that. So it's just optimized that way. So I'm not going to use that as a strike against it.

Steve-O: I think, like, the fact that Leon is sick in this was my, like, headcanon for why he's a little bit clunkier in certain parts.

GraceAsscrack: I'd like to point it out.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. i'll ah You know what? ill I will purchase that product.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

Steve-O: Okay, all right.

ThirstTrapLeon: okay

GraceAsscrack: I'll buy it.

Steve-O: That's what I did.

GraceAsscrack: I'll buy that.

Steve-O: Because...

GraceAsscrack: You know, I will buy that product off of you, Steve.

Steve-O: dude Dude, I just played remake like a couple like days before, and like you're right.

GraceAsscrack: I'll take it.

GraceAsscrack: Resident Evil 4 remake?

Steve-O: His his movement in in for remake, oh my goodness, he's like you know going between, he's just moving, he's parrying.

GraceAsscrack: It's fluid, dude. Yeah, he's like, you're like a fucking ballerina. And just like, you know...

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: and and And that's kind of why I tend to say that you know I kind of prefer the knife over the hatchet. Just because I feel like I...

GraceAsscrack: Like, the parrying stuff was... don't want to say it was too easy in this game. But like I wasn't parrying that much in regular combat and then once you get to the point where you have to in the fight with the tyrant and with the fight with you know who it seemed like it was just naturally easier, you know.

Steve-O: yeah dude I thought I was like fucked at the very end of the game I was like I have no healing items they are I'm um fighting the the final boss here and he's he's swinging these things and then I'm like oh right I can fucking parry I'm like

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that's what I told John.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: i was like, ah well, you know, what once...

GraceAsscrack: Could you parry bullets from from the BSAA agents or no?

Steve-O: I wish because the they're firing them in like random directions and they're still perfect hitting me when I'm behind walls.

GraceAsscrack: Or not BSAA? Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, those things fucking wipe me out, man. They were tough.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: And I'm like, what?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah, dan a little overclock. I was just like, God, playing this on Insanity is probably rough, man.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, they got, uh, they got thermal.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: They got thermal. They got thermal vision goggles, dog.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. um

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Now, like, Steve, did you swap hatchets when when provided the option?

Steve-O: Um,

GraceAsscrack: I did out of respect.

Steve-O: I wanted to, but unfortunately, ah

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, the the regular one.

Steve-O: i man i max leveled up my hatchet.

ThirstTrapLeon: So I'll just say this because this is what I told John.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, Devin told me this earlier, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah the The benefit is the other hatchet is it's the Perry window way bigger.

GraceAsscrack: Because I did the same thing as you, Steve.

GraceAsscrack: Is it like slow motion?

Steve-O: is it?

ThirstTrapLeon: No, it's not that, but it's just like, as somebody who kind of struggled with parrying, i was just, I was parrying the last boss like nothing, right?

GraceAsscrack: Oh, you could just like spam it. You could spam the parry button.

ThirstTrapLeon: was like, oh, oh, okay. Like, it was like, it was like when Neo, when Neo becomes the one, like, I was like, oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, I didn't have to parry because of my shot... I was akimbo shotgunning it.

ThirstTrapLeon: So, yeah. So, I'll just say that, you know, obviously. and Plus, my fully maxed out of hatchet, so couldn't take down a fucking blister. And so I was like, what's the goddamn point?

GraceAsscrack: No, I used the Mortal Edge...

Steve-O: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: Um...

GraceAsscrack: i I equipped it towards the end so I could see it on Leon's butt. Because...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: all right let's Can we talk about the fucking Hunk fight?

ThirstTrapLeon: It's sick.

GraceAsscrack: Because when they showed Hunk, or when they showed the guy that walked out, command they showed the commander walk out with big dick energy.

ThirstTrapLeon: no

Steve-O: Yeah, okay. I'm glad we're saying it.

Steve-O: The commander, quote unquote.

GraceAsscrack: i like who i was like, who the fuck is this?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, i was like yeah, I was like is that i was like is that i was like, is that Hunk?

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, as soon as I saw the red lenses, i was like, that's him.

Steve-O: Yeah, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's Mr. Death, dude.

GraceAsscrack: And then he was like, Leon Kennedy, we finally meet. And I was like, oh, hell yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah, dude.

GraceAsscrack: It was like, it was like, 3 30 a.m and i wasn't even like i wasn't that tired because like sam got me a whole party size full of uh flaming hot cheetos that was munching on the whole time and um yeah and then he's like leon can you finally meet ah i was like oh fuck yes i was like yeah and then but but then i was hit with reality and i was like oh shit leon's probably gonna die in this game like if we're fighting hunk like i don't think i was like i don't think hunk's gonna

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, that's nice.

Steve-O: Hell yeah.

Steve-O: o

GraceAsscrack: actually be the one to kill him but like the fact that we finally have Mayweather versus Pacquiao like now you know like I'm like this might be the swan song for yeah I'm like dude this might be it dude like he might be actually cooked if he's fighting fucking Hulk now you know

Steve-O: yeah

Steve-O: This might be Leon's Requiem.

Steve-O: i Dude, I felt the same exact way. That entire end run, and then when you walk into that room and it's like steps up into like like kind of golden glowing light, I was like, oh, fuck.

GraceAsscrack: yeah yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: um when When you're like doing and Metal Gear Solid 4 walking into the microwave and you're spitting blood up and he's like, I'm taking a nap.

Steve-O: the

GraceAsscrack: I was waiting to hear the fucking Red Dead.

Steve-O: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: No, but like he he was, I mean, it was very akin to and again, I haven't played Resident Evil 2 Remake in a while, and you and and you have, Devin, but like it's it was very similar to the the last stretch he had, the walk in Resident Evil 2 Remake, where he's, you know, very similar also to Arthur Morgan's Last Ride, where I was let's expecting a cheesy song to be playing during that part while he was hearing people talk.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, man, dude, that would have been dangerous.

GraceAsscrack: in his head. Yeah, that would have been dangerous, dog.

ThirstTrapLeon: really

Steve-O: Dude, I legit, I was like, dude, I was talking to Tessa and I was like, if Leon dies in this game, I might have to cry a little bit.

GraceAsscrack: But yeah, dog.

Steve-O: Like, like i don't I don't think I could man it for the day.

ThirstTrapLeon: You might have to call out a word tomorrow.

GraceAsscrack: No, I was.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well,

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, I don't know if I was like, because Sam, Sam was asking me the same.

ThirstTrapLeon: you should have picked the other ending, Steve.

GraceAsscrack: Sam was asking me the same shit, too.

Steve-O: fi

GraceAsscrack: And I was like, was like, I was like, I might cry, but I think I'll be more like upset that they killed them off like and if you know depending on how they do it like i don't think this is a good reason to just kill michael jordan on the 96 bulls you know there's no reason for it so it's like yeah this is literally his flu game where you know he was sick the whole time but he was still he still beat the utah jazz in the finals you know like it's fine but yeah the hunk fight was so sick dude

Steve-O: Yeah.

Steve-O: This is his flu game.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Well...

Steve-O: Oh, so good.

GraceAsscrack: And ah I was just like, that's i won the I wanted a fair fight.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: That's why I was like, worse where's my where's Krauser's knife? Like, give hatchet and knife.

ThirstTrapLeon: oh

GraceAsscrack: Let's do this legit, dog.

ThirstTrapLeon: well

GraceAsscrack: Let's fucking have a real fight, you know?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, it's funny, too, because like, well, you know, while I'm playing this right and I'm seeing that they're playing the hits, I was like, I was just thinking I was like, man, really cool.

GraceAsscrack: He doesn't even touch knives in this game. He's too sick.

ThirstTrapLeon: There's like some sort of hunk DLC. And then I fucking killed hunk an hour later. and I was like, oh, shit, my bad.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, he killed it. Dude, Hunk got me. ah He got me with the neck break, and he did the same thing. I was like, oh, I was like, yeah. was like, that's it right there.

Steve-O: does he do the neck break?

GraceAsscrack: He did the neck break with the little squiggle with the squiggly hands.

Steve-O: Oh, shit.

GraceAsscrack: Like, he actually did it. He did it on on on me.

Steve-O: That's awesome.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, oh, was like, sick.

Steve-O: That's so cool that that's in the game.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, hell yeah, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Well, yeah, i was like, they didn't call him Hunk, but right now, like i was like, I'm not, I was like, I'm like not, I was like, I'm 93% sure that it is Hunk after all the talk to talk that they had.

Steve-O: You know.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, no one does, right? Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But then when he did the neck break, I'm like, 100%. This is it. this is the god This is the goat right here. I'm fighting against the goat. so And I love how his his his thing is called, his hatchet's called Mortal Edge.

Steve-O: Oh, does

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And like the the little lore is like, it's fucking killed a million fucking people.

Steve-O: he?

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: This thing's killed a million zombies.

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, and probably fucking civilians, dude. He's aer he's a psycho. um

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man. Honk. Gotta love Hunk.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, also, Steve, I don't know if you caught this, but when you kill Hunk, look at his hand and he has the same Resident Evil. has the same T-virus scar, which is kind confirmed.

Steve-O: ah does he

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, he just takes it. he just takes it easier.

ThirstTrapLeon: I was like, yeah, that's definitely Hunk.

GraceAsscrack: He just, yeah, because he's.

Steve-O: That's awesome.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man, he was like, no need for backup.

Steve-O: Dude, the second I heard that, I was like, yep, yep, this is Hank.

GraceAsscrack: I'll eliminate the target myself.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, he's like, that was one tough son of a bitch.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, is this Hunk?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Also, again, like when you when you like get thrown through the glass, Hunk has you dead to rights and he goes, take your time.

GraceAsscrack: Leon Kennedy, we finally meet.

GraceAsscrack: Now, yeah, he's like, get you get up.

ThirstTrapLeon: Get up. He's like, I'll wait.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, he he thor he Thor's you.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, he could have killed you.

GraceAsscrack: He's like, you know what? could He could have killed you. Actually, thor it was different with Thor because Kratos was actually dead and Thor revived him, which is a huge flex.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, he starts his heart.

GraceAsscrack: But, um yeah, to to digress, like, ah fucking, like, that was, was just like, shit, dude. I'm like, we're fucking fighting Hunk right now. Like, this is fucking, this is the real deal, dog.

GraceAsscrack: Like, and I love the fact that Leon is so legendary that he's just been living in Hunk's head rent-free as the one guy he he just didn't run into at the time.

GraceAsscrack: Because that Hunk versus that Leon in 1998 or whatever, yeah, he would have been a fucking smear on the ground He would have been brains on the ground, you know?

Steve-O: That would have been a wipe.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Actually, I don't know. I think we saw Baby Leon a little short. Dude's a fucking cockroach, man.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, yeah, but like Hunk, you know, dude, his name's Mr.

GraceAsscrack: He can't die.

ThirstTrapLeon: Death. That's what everybody calls Hunk.

Steve-O: sick. That is sick.

GraceAsscrack: That's why, yeah, you know what?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: My um my Halo tag in um in college for our Xbox was Mr. Death based off of Hunk. That's little lore drop from John Suarez.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, OK.

GraceAsscrack: I called myself Mr. Death then. So, you know.

Steve-O: That's a good one. That's a good.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that's a well-adjusted...

GraceAsscrack: always loved Hunk too. He's

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, huh? Yeah, and and again, i mentioned it before, and even though, like, Zeno's not really Wesker, kind of, sort of, maybe, it's cool because they those characters had never interacted before.

ThirstTrapLeon: And, like, the here, the Leon quips against somebody like that, because, like, Redfield would just scream and throw haymakers, and they'd get thrown across the room.

GraceAsscrack: just trying to punch him in the face. He's just getting mad trying punch him in the face.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah you... lose I love Chris, but like, that's what he would do.

GraceAsscrack: But Leon totally Spider-Mans it. He's just like fancy. Fancy moves.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: I don't

ThirstTrapLeon: Like Chris Redfield to Wesker is just one of those things where it's like, dude, on paper, I just, I fucking watch this guy, but like, he just, he has his number. Chris just has Wesker's number.

ThirstTrapLeon: know, he's like, how am I losing this fucking ape? It's like, sorry, sorry, dude. What are going to do? um Man. But, you know, I, you know, i was talking about it and it's just like,

ThirstTrapLeon: Six, like, you know, in terms of where this ranks, right? But like Resident Evil six, right? the The black mark, right? The lowest of the mainline games.

GraceAsscrack: There are some people out there that think that the game wasn't... The franchise wasn't in danger because Resident Evil 6 sold so well. It was one of the highest selling ones.

ThirstTrapLeon: It was in danger. It was in danger because it was like that.

GraceAsscrack: It was totally in danger, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then like Umbrella Chronicles.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: I think, remember that weird shoot, that multiplayer shooter?

GraceAsscrack: they They were going nowhere. And then the movies...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. it was It was in trouble, right? And, like, it was to a point where me as a fan, I was like, they should just reboot. And I think they Capcom even thought about They're like, maybe we'll just reboot because, like, no one likes 6.

Steve-O: It completely lost its identity.

ThirstTrapLeon: We obviously blew it up. But the point is, is, like, 6 is just, like, the definition of, like, too much. There's just too much going on. And I get it. They're trying to like tie all these things together and, you know, Oh, give you these fan service moments. But it's like nine is just how to do six correctly.

ThirstTrapLeon: In my opinion, it's just like, we're going to give you all these moments, but there's just, we're just going to hold back.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, maybe we don't need to just gas China or whatever the fuck happens in that game.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: We don't need Ada clones to fucking ooze out of their...

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, Yeah, we don't need Ada clones. We don't need like just all of this nonsense, right? Just nine is just, it's a perfect, it's ah an amazing mix of like fan service, different gameplay mechanics that still work all the way through, fun surprises, like, like the, good

GraceAsscrack: and it keeps the And it keeps the classics, like, relevant in the series now, too, which is why...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, and it and it adds a heaviness. It really adds a heaviness to, you know, like what's happening in that game.

GraceAsscrack: what happened and what And what happened to the characters, you know? like the

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Because you could tell you could tell Leon is, like, despondent in 4, like, when he's, like, riding in the car in the beginning.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean...

GraceAsscrack: Like, he's very...

ThirstTrapLeon: Right, yeah. Like that's, he's he's definitely like, but there's other stuff going on.

GraceAsscrack: is And he's so so he's so laser- He's so laser focused on saving Ashley and making sure, you know, then there's a clear reason why he's got this complex now because like can save everybody.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And then, you know, that note, do do you think fucking Diet Wesker really just wrote that note that says you can't say save everybody? Or do you think that was just in Leon's head because he's because he's trauma?

ThirstTrapLeon: That'd be kind of cool.

Steve-O: Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, John, I don't, you know, in terms of like having, that i don't know if you know this, but last year marked the 80th anniversary of the atomic bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Steve-O: Oh, hold on.

ThirstTrapLeon: And it doesn't sound, doesn't sound right.

Steve-O: Hold on. no. Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: Something so barbaric feels like should have happened centuries ago.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, God.

ThirstTrapLeon: And yet it's still recent enough that tens of thousands survivors still love, live among us today.

Steve-O: oh no

GraceAsscrack: Oh, my God. Okay, Polygon.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah You know, known as these individuals, these individuals still carry within the physical mental of scars of an unfathomable tragedy.

Steve-O: Are we IGN-ing Polygon right now?

ThirstTrapLeon: They're both reminders of the evil, uh, evil mankind is capable of living proof of that. And it gets all odds. Good people can still hope to push on the face of it. But, uh, you know, in his own words, Leon S.

ThirstTrapLeon: Kennedy is a survivor too. Uh, so listen, it's tied all together, baby.

Steve-O: that's definitely That's definitely a take. That's definitely a take.

ThirstTrapLeon: Fuck Jesus.

Steve-O: Polygon.

ThirstTrapLeon: Great. Um, that, that being said, uh, ignoring the polygon jab, um there is a heaviness, right? Like when when kind of... And to me, one of the moments was like when he walks by Kendo's gun shop and he's like... It's almost like he was...

ThirstTrapLeon: he when he opens the door and he sees the one skull, he sees the one skeleton, and it's almost like he didn't want to know either.

GraceAsscrack: The one score, yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: i think he would have been scared of either result, right? He's like, if there's no bodies, that's fucked up. There is a body. I don't know. Like, it's just like... It does a nice retroactive like, no, dude, that shit was fucking traumatic.

GraceAsscrack: That shit was hard. It was tough.

ThirstTrapLeon: And it's actively killing him.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, that shit was tough.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's actively killing him, you know, you know, as you play the game.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: So it was just, you know, but listen, last year marked the 80th anniversary of Atomic Pond.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: it It really is like, um you know, Leon is this fucking super action hero, but like how do we how do we ground him a little bit more?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And it's like, this is it's all here.

ThirstTrapLeon: Right.

GraceAsscrack: It's all there, you know?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. um One thing I didn't I didn't mention, but I just thought this is a fun little thing. I didn't quite get the Lady D costume for Grace when it was announced outside of just, you know, goony material.

GraceAsscrack: ah interesting that you, that was the first thing that you checked for in the game.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Well, hey, I have the deluxe edition, um but it's it's cool because she's like a little fucking vampire just sucking up blood.

GraceAsscrack: That's weird.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I was like, oh, that's cute.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, is that that's how she collects the blood?

Steve-O: who That makes sense.

ThirstTrapLeon: I don't know. I don't i just think it's i's probably why they gave her the skin.

Steve-O: The connection to why she's the vampire.

ThirstTrapLeon: because she's a little blood-sucking goblin, dude. um Also, Steve, I talked to John about this.

Steve-O: That makes sense. Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Steve, did you know about the As of Now Unsolved puzzle?

Steve-O: Um, you know what? Uh, I was checking the challenges and I saw at the very bottom, it said something about taking the, the twins to hear the voice.

ThirstTrapLeon: Uh-huh.

Steve-O: Um, and it made me curious. And I, I, apparently i was accidentally doing some of the pieces of that.

ThirstTrapLeon: You did some digging?

Steve-O: Um, I didn't get the hand.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: You got the hand and everything and the hourglass.

Steve-O: What I did was, um, in the game is I kicked the head through the basketball hoop.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I didn't do that.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's

Steve-O: um But yeah, and I'm finding out there that there's all this like, you know, PT-esque puzzle that if you do a certain string of things, it's crazy.

ThirstTrapLeon: just a big puzzle that as of now... Isn't that crazy, though? It's like...

Steve-O: And I love it. i Because like that might have like an alternate thing on it. Like who knows?

ThirstTrapLeon: And and like, listen, maybe by the time this comes out, somebody will have solved it.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: But in 2026, the fact that this game has been out for more than one day and there's a puzzle that people are like, i don't we we the Internet doesn't get it yet because it was funny because I beat the game and I was like, I had the hand and I just didn't know what to do with it.

GraceAsscrack: We don't know what it it is. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then I was like, you should took it to the the blood analyzer machine, which would have done this. And because I have the hourglass and I did the thing where I turned the sand over just to see. Because I was like, oh, that's cool.

Steve-O: Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: in real time, the sand fills up. And then I saw the note.

GraceAsscrack: you You can try.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah,

GraceAsscrack: Did you know you can try to put the hourglass in the he in the DNA Helix and it just doesn't fit?

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah. And it just like ting ting. Yeah, because that's what I thought.

Steve-O: oh

GraceAsscrack: Which is different. it doesn't It doesn't... It usually just says you can't use that here.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And you you don't even try. But with that, like, try.

ThirstTrapLeon: There is a... Yeah, they're very it's just cool, right? And again, maybe by the time you listen to this it will have been solved. But the fact that the internet exists and is in full force and we don't know yet is really impressive to me.

GraceAsscrack: a community thing, man.

Steve-O: That's very impressive.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. And

GraceAsscrack: So... What was I going to say?

GraceAsscrack: Oh, so...

ThirstTrapLeon: have you? Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: yeah was Yeah, like, do you want to see where it ranks among the greats?

Steve-O: Yeah, let's do that. I'm i'm all for that.

ThirstTrapLeon: I do. While John's pulling out Steve, have you been replaying it yet?

Steve-O: I just started a replay now. um

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: New Game Plus?

Steve-O: New Game Plus, it's interesting because it gives Leon his little boxes like immediately.

ThirstTrapLeon: Sort of, right? There's not really...

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: um so you can like grab all your stuff.

ThirstTrapLeon: Race is left out in the cold, right?

Steve-O: She really is.

ThirstTrapLeon: If she doesn't have anything cool

Steve-O: i What I did was, so with my endgame credits, I bought the Infinite Knife for Grace.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, okay.

Steve-O: um just

GraceAsscrack: What's the name of that knife again?

Steve-O: it's I forget. It's something with a K.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's cool.

GraceAsscrack: It's got a cool...

Steve-O: Kotashi or something like that.

ThirstTrapLeon: Kobayashi or something.

Steve-O: ah But like basically like I just I love being able to like shoot zombies until I can shove them to the ground and then I just knife them a million times.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, that's what I did with my first knife.

ThirstTrapLeon: What's funny is I just never use the knife mechanics in the in the my first run through.

Steve-O: That's hey, that's very fair to.

GraceAsscrack: No, i did that I did that with an...

ThirstTrapLeon: I didn't even realize it.

GraceAsscrack: I killed... Owen watched me do this, video but I... the The first zombie I just stabbed to death just to see, and it was like, it just kills the entire knife completely.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Oh, guys, we didn't even talk about the fucking motorcycle sequence.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, God. The sick motorcycle sequence.

Steve-O: Dude. ah How pissed is Portia?

ThirstTrapLeon: I'll just say this. I'll just say... Listen, I'll say this. ah I didn't... I was talking to Jenny, oh my god, wait, is this playable? it's o's playable

GraceAsscrack: was like, Yeah, because you see the motorcycle and he's like, oh, it's in good shape. I just need to get into a game.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah I thought it was just going be cool little cutscene.

GraceAsscrack: And then I'm like, oh, man.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: didn't think I going be fucking rocking that shit.

GraceAsscrack: Me too. I know I was fucking fighting dogs.

Steve-O: Dude. The dogs.

GraceAsscrack: Fighting Cerberus dogs.

Steve-O: When he fucking vaults off the skyscraper.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Nah, they really... Dude, they dialed they dialed in the the Mission Impossible code. coded Like Ethan Hawke coded fucking Leon Kennedy in this too. Which I was glad to see.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: They even had the fucking motorcycle face off too. which Which ruled.

Steve-O: yeah oh yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: with fat with With Fatty.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Love it.

ThirstTrapLeon: So yeah, I bought Grace's gun, which is Pretty good.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because it's got a clip of 30, which, yeah, yeah, which it kind of it's almost like a double leg sword, though, because like you get a little bit more comfortable shooting that thing.

Steve-O: The pistol one.

ThirstTrapLeon: But still, you shoot, you kill fucking zombie.

GraceAsscrack: Well, it's New Game Plus, dude. You gotta just...

ThirstTrapLeon: I know, but but then then a lot of fucking zombies chase me, and I'm like, oh, 30 bullets still isn't all that much.

GraceAsscrack: a victory lap.

ThirstTrapLeon: and then ah And then I overcompensate, and then I still am finding myself with a fucking whole med pack. Because, like, Steve, I'm assuming the um the pouches don't carry over, right?

Steve-O: The pouches do not carry over.

ThirstTrapLeon: Right, that's what I mean.

GraceAsscrack: Tough.

ThirstTrapLeon: was like, god damn, dude.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: I needed some pouch.

GraceAsscrack: Tough!

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. My my replay.

GraceAsscrack: And they're in like completely ends of the fucking over storyline too basically.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: You don't get the last one until the end. Until the arc.

Steve-O: You got to get the little coin ease and then all the way to the art.

ThirstTrapLeon: and So, yeah, right now i'm I'm in Leon where I'm like walking through the hospital after Grace kind of goes to rescue the girl.

Steve-O: Mm

Steve-O: hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: um And. um But I've been playing on ink ribbon mode.

Steve-O: Oh, okay, you're doing classic.

ThirstTrapLeon: Which. are

GraceAsscrack: Classic.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, which man, you. ah I didn't realize how many times I would die because ink ribbons in a weird way.

GraceAsscrack: Wait, do you need Ink Ribbons as Leon too?

ThirstTrapLeon: No, he just uses this box.

GraceAsscrack: ah Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: But ah but ink ribbons use up.

GraceAsscrack: I love how Leon can't use typewriters, but Grace can.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, ink ribbons use up a very valuable space and then you use blood to build like tins and stuff.

GraceAsscrack: Because he's too sick.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: But you can still. So one, you're like filling up your inventory even more quickly because you're picking up this stuff.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, I was going to say, that's two spots now.

ThirstTrapLeon: and it And it like makes it a lot more tense when you're running around because it's like you really don't want to use them. But I'm like, oh, man, I got to go do a quick run around the corner to get to this blood thing so I can max this thing out.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: And you give myself the steroid injection. but I don't want to save yet. So then you're just running and I like ah but I'm also one shot and that fucking chefs running around with this fucking hatchet. So there's machete or whatever.

ThirstTrapLeon: So like it made the game honestly more tense. um i Sorry, last question. On your replay, are you going to switch the perspectives?

ThirstTrapLeon: are going to keep it?

Steve-O: Uh, right now I've kept the perspectives. Um, but like I, know, I was thinking about switching, ah grace also to third, just cause I kind of wanted to see her running animation because her running in first person feels like those slow as

GraceAsscrack: her butt.

GraceAsscrack: yeah it doesn't feel like you're Yeah, it doesn't feel like you're running at all.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'll be honest. It's not that fast. It's not that fast at third.

Steve-O: I need an excuse of her stumbling and stuff.

ThirstTrapLeon: She kind of runs...

Steve-O: I need that excuse.

ThirstTrapLeon: That is, I'll be honest, specifically in the very first, like when you first meet the the girl, like the the big gangly lady, when she's running like frantically, like the animation is sick because she's like stumbling and freaking the fuck out.

GraceAsscrack: There are

GraceAsscrack: The girl. Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: First person can be very misleading, too.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Because, like, there were times where I thought, where I was like, oh, fuck! Because the liquor was, like, literally right, like, it took up the entire screen, but it didn't fucking, it didn't see me.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: So, it's kind of misleading, too. I wonder how how much that changes. I'll never play Leon first person, though. Ever in my life.

Steve-O: Nah, nah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: You can't, you couldn't pay me to do that.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'll be honest. I almost took off the sights when I realized it put me in first person mode. I was like, ew.

Steve-O: I did that for a moment. i was like, du when?

ThirstTrapLeon: I spent the money.

Steve-O: Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: spent the goddamn money.

Steve-O: I really...

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, the way I saw it was like, it might be more accurate, like, in the game if you're using that site anyway. So i was like, I'll just keep it on there. But it didn't, you know, it was cool.

GraceAsscrack: But, you know, give me, like Devin said, give me the fucking laser site. Just give me the laser site and we're good, dog.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah.

Steve-O: Hey, maybe maybe future DLC stuff. Who knows?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, right. they didn't even throw that the remake stuff.

Steve-O: I mean, they they didn't even put Ada in this.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, no, they did. They did. No, no. they they wanted the One of the handguns, you can get an actual laser sight in Resident Evil 4 Remake, but it's only one of the guns.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: forgot which one it is.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. So, uh,

GraceAsscrack: It's one of the ones I didn't use. Like the Punisher, I think, or something.

ThirstTrapLeon: the, the, yeah. Yeah. One of them is just, it's like the little army, the green army one.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Anyway. yeah. I'm curious about the ranking Chris or, uh, John.

GraceAsscrack: Okay, so i have... Okay, I have two lists here. I have them in um

GraceAsscrack: chronological release order, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay. can

GraceAsscrack: Like what years they came out. And then also just by just Metacritic score.

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: I use Metacritic because OpenCritic is kind of too new, I think. So Metacritic goes actually goes back to the fucking 90s. um But we can go... We can just go by if you want. like Okay, so here's here's Metacritic's top five. right are Actually, this is okay yeah okay this is the top five. So Resident Evil 4 OG is 96.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: Code Veronica is 94. Resident Evil 4 Remake is a 93.

ThirstTrapLeon: Go for Ravka's 94?

GraceAsscrack: And then... Yeah, isn't that wild?

ThirstTrapLeon: shit.

GraceAsscrack: And then Director's Cut?

Steve-O: That is all. Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Nemesis, OG Remake, and Resident Evil 2 Remake are all tied for 91. So that's... I can't really say top five for Metacritic score, but...

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: um like Like, where would you... but i don't I don't even know if Code Veronica is in my personal top five. So I don't i don't know if...

GraceAsscrack: um Maybe this isn't a good...

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Listen, I'm just going to say this.

Steve-O: Yeah, I wouldn't put it in my top five either.

ThirstTrapLeon: Open critic. I'm looking at the score for Requiem. It's too low.

Steve-O: I agree. It's 88.

GraceAsscrack: What is it at now?

ThirstTrapLeon: It's ah it's in sitting at an 89.

Steve-O: 89. Okay. Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Nah, dude, that should be...

Steve-O: eightyn nine oga

GraceAsscrack: 89? Okay. okay okay so let's go let's Let's start there then.

ThirstTrapLeon: We should be...

GraceAsscrack: If Requiem is at 89, Resident um Evil 2 OG Metacritic is at 89. like Do you think this is a better game than re the original Resident Evil 2?

ThirstTrapLeon: Let's see. I almost want to disqualify the originals because it's

GraceAsscrack: You want to just group them up and into...

Steve-O: Yeah, i think the I think the originals are too they're they're too important for their time.

GraceAsscrack: Okay. All right. So here I have another list, Steve, where it breaks them up into eras.

Steve-O: and

ThirstTrapLeon: okay.

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: So the class the classic era is tank controls.

Steve-O: That's fair.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: So it's Director's Cut, Resident Evil 2, Nemesis, and Code Veronica are in the classic era. Do you want to just not use those?

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: Yeah, I think i think i I could argue you could argue Code Veronica because that 94 is egregious.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah if

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, it's pretty high, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, that that's got to be a matter of like just that not the amount of reviewers must be really low.

Steve-O: That's very high to...

GraceAsscrack: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because, um you know,

GraceAsscrack: um I mean, I guess maybe maybe I don't want to and don't want to kill another turtle on Amazon, but i was going to say we can probably replace Code Veronica with Code Veronica X for PS2.

GraceAsscrack: Because the original Code Veronica was Dreamcast, right? Am I i tripping?

Steve-O: It was Dreamcast and then x was PlayStation.

GraceAsscrack: And then Code Veronica X was PlayStation 2.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: So Code Veronica, what's Code Veronica X on Metacritic?

Steve-O: Let me just look that up.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, you got it.

Steve-O: ah Yeah, I got it for you.

GraceAsscrack: Well, we can just deal not use tank control Resident Evils because because the most all of those besides Code Veronica.

Steve-O: Yeah, that makes sense.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, so I looked it up. Code Veronica x is a 67. And so, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: and so

Steve-O: That's wild, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: All right. All right. Okay. so You know what? I hate to say this, but maybe we should have numbered series.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. So so Code Veronica original has 18 reviews.

GraceAsscrack: What does Resident Evil Zero have?

ThirstTrapLeon: Code Veronica X.

GraceAsscrack: Because

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, God.

GraceAsscrack: that has an 83 on this list.

GraceAsscrack: But it doesn't have the Metacritic link.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know.

GraceAsscrack: It has Wikipedia on there. So maybe this might be pre-Metacritic too.

ThirstTrapLeon: I always get hung up if I'm typing like the letter or the number or the.

ThirstTrapLeon: Resident Evil 0.

GraceAsscrack: It's the number for this. 83.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oops. This should be a fucking 0, am I right? 83. GameCube, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah

GraceAsscrack: Same with this. Okay. So there's the GameCube.

ThirstTrapLeon: thank you

GraceAsscrack: So there's the classic era and then there's GameCube slash action shift era, which is remake zero and four. They have them there. So we could start there, I guess, probably.

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: All right.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And then go down the list.

ThirstTrapLeon: i

GraceAsscrack: So we can go backwards in time, right? Is

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I mean,

GraceAsscrack: is

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: is the game, we're starting off pretty pretty spicy here. is Is the game better than Resident Evil 4 Remake?

Steve-O: Resident Evil 4 remake.

GraceAsscrack: Yes, I'm going backwards in chronological order.

Steve-O: but Okay. Um.

ThirstTrapLeon: I say damn recency bias, yes I don't care, I don't care, I'm saying yes

Steve-O: Oh, I loved remake. 4 remake. Um.

ThirstTrapLeon: Just beat remake, I'm saying it's better than remake.

GraceAsscrack: You beat remake? Okay. You beat it once?

ThirstTrapLeon: i

GraceAsscrack: Okay, cool. Good job.

Steve-O: i think I think sitting here and comparing both, they are neck and neck, but I am going to have to give the edge to Requiem because of how it also dabbles in you know ah horror as well as it does.

Steve-O: Because I feel like, you know, four is like, you know, it's it's the it's the Leon meat from Requiem as well.

GraceAsscrack: Nah, I think that's selling... I think that's...

Steve-O: You think it's selling a short?

GraceAsscrack: that No, i think's that I think that downplays Resident Evil 4 Remake just because, again, we have sick Leon. He's old. He's 50 years old.

Steve-O: He's old.

GraceAsscrack: um He's not moving like that.

Steve-O: He's old man.

ThirstTrapLeon: i like I like fighting the enemies in 9 more than... i think the Ganados are fun, but I think the dusty-ass zombies...

Steve-O: I like, like...

ThirstTrapLeon: the The fun new zombie types.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, you guys already know my answer, but, like,

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah,

GraceAsscrack: I'm not going to say Resident Evil 4 Remake clears this game, but like like like by by a country mile. buy it But i just objectively, i think Resident Evil 4 Remake is probably ah more complete like overall experience just based on how much how much game you get.

Steve-O: no, I'm not going to say that either.

GraceAsscrack: Like this game, first playthrough 12 hours for me.

Steve-O: Mm.

GraceAsscrack: I was able to beat it basically in one sitting, which I don't know if that's like, yeah, I don't even know if like, that's like, ah i don't, I don't want to say if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Steve-O: That's amazing.

GraceAsscrack: Like, you know, I'm definitely like biased towards, it's a good thing that I was able to just finish the game in one sitting.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But I don't know if that like objectively makes it like a more complete game just because it, you know, it is pretty short. There's like two, there's two chapters in it.

GraceAsscrack: I don't want to say that it didn't give me enough to play because it still felt like it's the opposite of a movie.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Like it was short gameplay time, but it it felt like it was bigger than it was, I guess, maybe just because, you know, a lot of it has to do with the the feelings the game does. But I don't think it's a better game than Resident Evil 4 Remake.

GraceAsscrack: um I don't like ah I can't I can't rank it over over that.

Steve-O: Again, again i think there's some crazy recency bias like maybe floating around in my mind too.

ThirstTrapLeon: Thank you.

Steve-O: um I just don't want to sell the gray sections short because I really, really do think that that elevated a ton of this game for me as well as just the...

Steve-O: the absolute like ridiculousness of of Leon uh like I'm thinking of highlights from four I'm thinking of highlights from Requiem like that dude has always been fun and has made these games so much better so I I think it's a little bit of both ingredients we're good

GraceAsscrack: All right, so if you were if you were to compare if you were to compare the two perspectives of Requiem, like do you what do you think was ah was better?

Steve-O: of Requiem um

GraceAsscrack: graces Grace's or or Leon's?

GraceAsscrack: Tough question, I know. I can't even answer it myself.

Steve-O: That's a really hard question.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, i think i think what makes it really pop is the marriage between the two. and know it's like the ultimate fence sitting move, but like...

Steve-O: Yeah. That makes me think that they're going to do code Veronica as the next game. Just because that is kind of possibly like where they might do that again with Claire and Chris.

GraceAsscrack: Right.

Steve-O: But I would say if, if I have to of the two, I would say Leon, um, But again, you know, you might ask somebody else and they would say grace. Like I i love both of them.

Steve-O: But like like Devin was saying earlier, like, you know, playing as grace and then switching over to Leon, you're like, oh, my God. But also a ton of the Leon sections later on, you're like, oh, Leon.

Steve-O: Oh, my God. Like, you know, they they really play with your emotions, which is something that.

GraceAsscrack: yeah

Steve-O: um

Steve-O: A good Resident Evil game does.

GraceAsscrack: here's ah here's a here's a site here's a site here's here's a side questionst Here's a side question for you guys.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah i just I just hate the the plot in 4 so bad. you know like

GraceAsscrack: Would you rank this game over Resident Evil 4 OG?

ThirstTrapLeon: i think 4 Remake is better than 4 OG.

GraceAsscrack: So you think this is better than 4 and 4 Remake?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: That's crazy to me.

ThirstTrapLeon: hey I mean, listen.

GraceAsscrack: I'll ask you again in five years when everyone forgets about this game.

Steve-O: very That's very fair.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's what I mean.

Steve-O: think...

ThirstTrapLeon: The game's been out for... The body's not even cold, but I get it.

Steve-O: okay i

GraceAsscrack: Okay, okay, let's keep... Alright, yeah, but I want to keep going, because I don't want to get hung up on this.

Steve-O: Yeah, don't get hung up on it.

GraceAsscrack: It's kind of a mistake.

Steve-O: So, John, because like I could literally go back and forth, I think I'm going to say for remake over this, but it's like they're they're very close.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, I just think... Again, I'm completely 1 million percent biased, right? Because I played Resident Evil 4 Remake, I beat it like 50 times.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, literally, like, I have a three hour run in that game like I beat that game to shit so it's not really I'm not a general perspective when it comes to that game like it would I would probably not be able to sleep tonight thinking that any game and in the Resident Evil series is better than any innovation of four so like I may might as well might as well have the fucking so the weirdo four tattoo on my arm you know i mean like that's just how that's just how I am that's games is my blood So, but like, again, I don't want to get hung up on this because I think the more the more um pressing questions is like how, out you know, how it compares to the other games.

Steve-O: Hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: This is a weird one because these are the most recent ones. And so Village, obviously, i this game runs circles around Resident Evil Village for me.

Steve-O: This clears village. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, it's better than Village.

GraceAsscrack: I feel like they they, even if they did... do the marriage stuff like if they like say Resident Evil Village it was half Ethan half Chris like I don't think it would I don't think it still would have been ah nearly as good and just because because Grace Grace is really

Steve-O: I feel like whoever directed this, whoever was the director of Requiem played Village and they went, well, why the fuck didn't it switch over to third person as Chris?

GraceAsscrack: yeah why did we do that yeah why didn't we do that yeah we were like why why aren are we doing that like We should be able to be three-peaking and fucking seeing everything that not a normal person could see when you play Chris Redfield.

Steve-O: Like, like, cause we thought that John, w right? Remember?

Steve-O: Yeah. I think there was a lot of like fun things, but I think the beginning of Village is way stronger than the end of Village.

GraceAsscrack: Oh,

ThirstTrapLeon: So, yeah, yeah, I can say that. um i Also, um the the director of the guy who directed RE9 did RE7.

GraceAsscrack: ah yeah, because you're the one that loves Resident Evil Village. It's your favorite game.

ThirstTrapLeon: So it's the same.

Steve-O: Okay, you can kind of feel that, I think. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Who directed RE8 then?

ThirstTrapLeon: Morris Misa Sada. Cool.

GraceAsscrack: i like the the subtitles, but I wish they would just keep the just call it Resident Evil 9 Resident Evil 8.

ThirstTrapLeon: All right.

Steve-O: Yeah, it's easier.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: It's just easier.

ThirstTrapLeon: i mean, that's what we all call it.

GraceAsscrack: It's easier for the library like when you know when you're looking at stuff in order.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Oh, also real quick, fun fact. In my replay of 8, I've been replaying it in third person mode just because like, fuck it why not?

Steve-O: hmm. You can.

ThirstTrapLeon: Understanding it was added after the fact, but it's like so funny.

Steve-O: Mm

GraceAsscrack: os like silent hill too like It's like playing for Silent Hill 2 remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's like hilariously awkward at times. Just like the way he, because they didn't give him a ton of animations, right? So it's just like, it kind of feels like playing it like Fallout in third person mode a little bit.

Steve-O: hmm.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: He's opening fences with his face and shit.

GraceAsscrack: Okay, Resident Evil 3 remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's a great game.

ThirstTrapLeon: Better. I'm sorry.

Steve-O: Better.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. I told John this earlier, but RE3, I've actually softened on RE3 even more.

Steve-O: I'm

GraceAsscrack: Well, I don't know.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: i'm not a hater of RE3 like a lot of people.

GraceAsscrack: i still i still i still really I still really like RE3 Remake.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: i'm not I don't even care.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: i i still i still love it.

Steve-O: I think that's that's the ultimate arcadey classic PlayStation feel of the modern Resident Evil remakes.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah, it's just, it just followed to remake.

GraceAsscrack: somebody's like Somebody's like putting the Clock Tower shit and into it in a mod or some shit, what I read. But I'm not going to play that.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: That's cool.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, honestly, RE3 remake, when it came out, was the lack of content was explained by that multiplayer mode.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, oh, well, it came with a multiplayer mode, but like, In 2026, the multi-mode multiplayer mode that isn't active and ignored. Like, yeah, RE3 kind of gets left out in the in the cold a little bit.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's just like, what were they thinking with this game? In some ways, you know, I still think it's it's a very good game. If I can platinum it, like, I wouldn't have done that if I didn't really like it.

ThirstTrapLeon: But, yeah, 3 yeah. Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Alright, this the hard one, guys. Resident Evil 2 Remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: See, like, to me, to me, it's like, it's why I it's why i think I like RE2 more than RE4 Classic.

Steve-O: No. I can't say that. I can't say it.

GraceAsscrack: You can't say it!

Steve-O: can't say it.

GraceAsscrack: You can't say it, Devin. Devin.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I think it's why I like RE2 Remake more.

GraceAsscrack: Wait, Re...

ThirstTrapLeon: i like Resident Evil 2 Classic.

GraceAsscrack: Oh.

ThirstTrapLeon: I like more than Resident Evil 4 Classic.

GraceAsscrack: I don't...

ThirstTrapLeon: I just like, like, that's my favorite.

GraceAsscrack: I don't see why. You wouldn't even have Gears of War if Resident Evil 4 never came out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: I think that's like a type where it's like, you know how like people choose like a water type, a grass type or a fire type of Pokemon.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, but like, yeah, and RE2 remake.

Steve-O: I think there's the two fans. There's the, I mean, that to be fair, I know they're one in the same, but right.

GraceAsscrack: Resident Evil 2 was the first Resident Evil game I played.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: oh

Steve-O: But I think there's the people who think two is the best.

GraceAsscrack: There's a special place in my spot.

Steve-O: There's people who think four the best.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. But like RE2 remake, right, is like, it's so good.

Steve-O: And then there's lunatics.

ThirstTrapLeon: the only The only ding i can give it is like, I think the AB b scenarios were a little botched. Just like, yeah I like that they attempted it

GraceAsscrack: yeah Now, if they had if they had switching perspectives during the game, you couldn't do it?

ThirstTrapLeon: Perspectives, no. But if they it gave me multiple...

GraceAsscrack: You couldn't do it like that?

ThirstTrapLeon: No, because if i need I need like the... I love that Mr. X was just a B thing, right? It just felt so cool to play and get just those wildly different scenarios.

GraceAsscrack: But also, doesn't really make sense that one of them just didn't see him at all.

ThirstTrapLeon: The timeline doesn't make sense at all.

GraceAsscrack: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Neither does Resident Evil 1, right? The Resident Evil 1 timeline makes no fucking sense. Because it's like, who was locked up?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, so I...

Steve-O: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: What is this?

GraceAsscrack: I personally think Resident Evil 4 Remake is is slightly better as a game than Resident Evil 2 Remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude.

GraceAsscrack: But! The big but is Resident Evil 2 Remake was just like... It was like a... It was like the cure for cancer, dude. Because, like...

GraceAsscrack: You know, it might not be a better fucking thing for society.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, it would be. But, like... a you know It was like revolutionary that they even...

ThirstTrapLeon: would you say, well cause that came after seven, right?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah,

Steve-O: We do it.

ThirstTrapLeon: So it was like seven, like successfully rehabilitated the franchise.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: yeah. yes Seven is the next one up.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then they, no, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, yeah. I say it all the time. I'm like, i don't...

ThirstTrapLeon: And then they came out with two remake and that was like, Ooh, like I just never, I've never had a more visceral experience of getting, having my cake and eating it too.

GraceAsscrack: but there was it

ThirstTrapLeon: Like,

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, there was no point. there was no there was There was a point in time where I think for like three or four years we were begging for them to remake two.

Steve-O: Oh, longer than that, like a decade and a half.

GraceAsscrack: No, more more than two years.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, no, 2 Remake was is just, it's honestly, it might be my the gold standard, you know?

GraceAsscrack: Like ten years. Yeah, because like

GraceAsscrack: was the most needed thing. that That's like the the one game that they should like one you know the one instance where they needed to remake that game and you know and we even for the first three or four years of our of our decade-long like cry fest like even if they remade it in the style of resident evil one remake like that would have been incredible too at that point but yeah so i i wouldn't put it over resident evil 2 remake the

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: That's fair.

ThirstTrapLeon: oh

Steve-O: I think like with like, you know, I think this is an excellent game. Had you not played Resident Evil 2 remake, but I think because of Resident Evil 2 remake, this game soars like ye you need to.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I would also argue to remake is too low scored. It's too lowly scored.

Steve-O: what What is it scored at?

ThirstTrapLeon: Like it's like a 91, but should be like a 94, 95.

Steve-O: That's bullshit. I agree.

ThirstTrapLeon: ninety five

Steve-O: That should definitely be in in that range too.

GraceAsscrack: Damn.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. I mean, again, just understanding the, the, the recency bias is extreme. i think I got to cut it off there. i'd Probably say R2 remake is a little bit better than the nine, but honest I think nine is, is probably top three of all time for me.

GraceAsscrack: Wow, really?

GraceAsscrack: So,

GraceAsscrack: because the way I see is Resident Evil 4's remake was basically hand in hand with Resident Evil 2 remake on terms of quality.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: So,

ThirstTrapLeon: i Yeah, and I also think, and it's tough because like RE4 remake is also like, it's going to sound snobby, but it's like a complete a product product, right?

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: That's why...

ThirstTrapLeon: It's like we have separate ways DLC, which is great. Like, and it marries that stuff.

GraceAsscrack: yeah that's why I can't...

ThirstTrapLeon: um

GraceAsscrack: I don't understand why you guys put...

ThirstTrapLeon: So also why I think it's better than 4 original, because...

GraceAsscrack: and that's why I don't understand why you think Requiem is better than than that. I just...

Steve-O: like Like, I'm saying, like, it's flittering.

GraceAsscrack: I can't... get I don't get it. I don't get I don't get it

Steve-O: Like, just right now, recency bias, as well as just the fact that, like, you could, like, literally catch me, like, a a day or um a year from now, and it could just switch.

GraceAsscrack: Okay. Alright.

Steve-O: I think it's just one of those things where, like...

GraceAsscrack: I'm not... Yeah, and I'm not just saying that just because I could play through the game blindfolded and beat it in under 20 hours still, probably.

Steve-O: Right. Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: I

GraceAsscrack: But, like, I just, like, objectively, like, you know...

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: They even they even gave us the fucking village demo, too. Like... Come on, dog. they they they did all they did all the same They did all the same beats.

ThirstTrapLeon: i get it.

Steve-O: They did.

ThirstTrapLeon: I get it.

Steve-O: They did.

GraceAsscrack: Like, all the same fucking

Steve-O: They did it good.

ThirstTrapLeon: Again, like to be blunt to be blunt, I like the villain.

GraceAsscrack: aura

ThirstTrapLeon: I like the enemy variety in 9 more. I think they're more fun to fight.

Steve-O: i think it'd be i think it would be fun to go through both games and...

ThirstTrapLeon: i think I think taking a ah fire axe, lobbing it across the room, and then doing a running jump kick against a zombie while it's eyeballs hanging out like is more fun than shooting a Ganado and doing a wheel kick over and over and over and over again.

GraceAsscrack: right okay but

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but that's not... Yeah, if you play if if you play the game... If you play Resident Evil 4 Remake like not utilizing everything Leon has, then yeah, it'll feel like that. But like once you like get into a rhythm, then it becomes...

GraceAsscrack: like you know It's really satisfying to go through crowds in that game when you when you're not getting hit and parrying.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Parrying fucking... uh pitchforks getting thrown at you and shit and like you know like fucking

ThirstTrapLeon: it's It's really satisfying to walk up and put your shotgun in the zombie's mouth and pull the trigger. Like, that's too.

GraceAsscrack: and then like and then like the other thing that i didn't really go into was like swapping weapons in as leon as sick leon i'll have to put that caveat in there seemed very slow compared like because i'm trying to like i was trying to play through it like how i play resident 4 remake like

Steve-O: Sick Leon.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: pop, pop, pop, switch to the Uzi, hit that guy in the knees, kick him in the face, and then switch to my shotgun to to clear out the crowd that's behind me doing the quick turnaround.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, it it doesn't feel as fluid and as, like, natural, I guess, because you got TB.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's 55 years old and he has a TV.

GraceAsscrack: But yeah, he's got TB.

Steve-O: He's slower. He's older. He's got TB.

GraceAsscrack: He's older. I get it.

Steve-O: He's still fucking shredding.

GraceAsscrack: But, like, ah like man. Yeah, i mean, he's still shredding, but yeah.

Steve-O: any

GraceAsscrack: OK, so Resident Evil 7. clears Resident Evil 7 okay what

ThirstTrapLeon: Seven. I love seven, but this is better than seven.

Steve-O: Yeah, um definitely way better than seven. But also, I think seven is better than eight.

ThirstTrapLeon: I think of all the remakes, which are all great to amazing, this is remake wise top three. I think at worst, you know, like risk like it's worst placement is under RE2 remake and RE4 remake, I think.

Steve-O: Yeah. I think we're just like.

GraceAsscrack: do you mean

GraceAsscrack: All right, I'm going to skip 6. six I'm going to skip 5. I'm going to skip 4 OG.

ThirstTrapLeon: if Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: um mean, I don't want to skip 4 OG because it is, in my mind, like it's so in its own tier, I guess. like On terms of just a video game in general, it's like if you don't have the Resident Evil title on there, it's still one of the best games ever made, i think, in my opinion.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But like, um Zero...

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: We could skip Zero too, because I fucking hate that game.

Steve-O: That's one of the worst Resident Evils. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But, here's the final boss. Steve, Resident Evil Remake 2002.

Steve-O: Okay.

Steve-O: Well, we could even just do the HD one from 2014 that got us Resident Evil 2 remake.

GraceAsscrack: I guess, yeah, but this one was special.

Steve-O: this one this one This one made us...

GraceAsscrack: Playing this, playing it on GameCube was special, dude.

Steve-O: This was the remake that made us go, oh remakes can be good. oh remakes are cool.

GraceAsscrack: Fucking Crimson Heads?

Steve-O: I mean, we wouldn't have blister heads. We would not have blister heads without that.

GraceAsscrack: That's right.

Steve-O: um

GraceAsscrack: i don't think I put, I don't think I put this over the original Resident Evil remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, I'm going to I'm at a point where I'm just waiting for them to remake one again.

GraceAsscrack: No way. I don't think I do.

Steve-O: I don't think I could either. I honestly just... I don't think I could.

GraceAsscrack: I can't put it over. there Like in my, like, so Resident Evil 4 is my favorite in the series, right? Resident Evil 2, also my favorite in the series.

Steve-O: Yeah. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: It's the left hand, right hand for me, right? But Resident Evil Remake, I think re the the original remake for Resident Evil 1 is the pinnacle of what that style of survival horror could be.

Steve-O: a

GraceAsscrack: And it was like, it was literally like, ah I think it's like a perfect game. Like that game is a perfect game.

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: Tank controls, be damned. When you walk, when you, like a lot of the feelings that I was feeling as Grace in Requiem are just like,

GraceAsscrack: flashback PTSD from playing Resident Evil 1 remake on GameCube ah there's a there's a there's a canon moment you're in the the west part of the mansion where where the long hallway is it was dark and all you see was a zombie slowly out outside just slowly tapping on the fucking window and it fucked me up like got under my skin

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And the first time, you know, i think that like right after that is the first where you get the lighter and you're just like, Oh, what do I do with this fucking lighter? And it tells you what you have to do. And you're just like, fuck.

Steve-O: Like, what are you talking about?

GraceAsscrack: Like, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, Oh, this is how you, this is how you like make the game that everybody already knows. Like, like harder. You this is how you, this is like, this is the formula of how you remake a game.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, in like the philosophy of remaking a game that people love. Like, this is how you do it. You, you know like it you make it scarier somehow because they add all these elements that that weren't in the original

Steve-O: Crimson Heads, Lisa Trevor, like that fucking weird casket room with the face masks.

GraceAsscrack: the big ass fucking snake i can't put i can't put recommend over this sorry devon i know there's a reason to see prop bias but i can't i can't put it over og remake

Steve-O: Oh, man, dude.

Steve-O: I think...

ThirstTrapLeon: That's okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: I don't want to say like I'm a hater of RE1 remake. Like I'm absolutely not.

GraceAsscrack: Did you even have a GameCube?

ThirstTrapLeon: But havetained you but like I'll just be honest.

GraceAsscrack: I don't even remember you even having a GameCube.

ThirstTrapLeon: like i I'd be more than happy with an RE1 re-remake.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, I would be, I would be too, but I just, I don't think it'll be, um, like they're gonna have to like fucking, they're gonna change the Spencer mansion.

Steve-O: I'd love to see a re-remake of that.

ThirstTrapLeon: It'd be obnoxious. It'd be

GraceAsscrack: They're gonna have to change Spencer mansion to a fucking skyscraper to get a full game out of it.

Steve-O: Thank you.

ThirstTrapLeon: I said, I don't want to be that guy, but I saw some asshole that did like a re like a unreal five demo.

GraceAsscrack: You know?

ThirstTrapLeon: Like ah like, oh, this is what Resident Evil one would look like.

GraceAsscrack: like, over-the-shoulder perspective and everything.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, like, yeah, he just like did it in art the unreal five engine. And I was like, oh, that's got sick. That's kind of sick action. They could work.

Steve-O: It's that's the thing, right now that we've introduced all this stuff about Spencer, like you, you tell Resident Evil one, you tell code Veronica like those are important like beats.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I mean, I could do without another orphanage fucking sequence.

Steve-O: ah

GraceAsscrack: Like, I could deal... I could... I could go without that.

Steve-O: What's the better orphanage section two or this?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Two.

Steve-O: Two.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, too.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: I mean, listen.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, this one was like, kind of like shoehorned, I think. Like, it was definitely like, it was creepy, but at the same, it was creepy, but like, at the same time, I just felt like, this is something that like, this is ah an element that they, that they put in Resident Evil Village, because it was lacking that feeling.

ThirstTrapLeon: it was it was creepy, though. I was playing it and I was going, ah! Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: And I don't think, it was lacking anything that they needed to put this in here.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, I think that without it, the game still stands the same, you know? I don't think it was absolutely necessary to to to put that in there.

Steve-O: That wasn't real quick. I just want to make sure that wasn't like our grace, right?

GraceAsscrack: Nah, I don't think No, because they were watching they're watching the security footage, I think.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no, that was... No, that came out, that was in 1990. That was the time frame.

Steve-O: How old is fucking grace?

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no, that's what i'm saying. It's not, like, they were just...

Steve-O: That's not grace. That's Right.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, plus, you find out yeah ah you find out later that Grace wasn't a clone.

ThirstTrapLeon: They werere just trying to, like, clone this chick.

GraceAsscrack: She was just a baby that they found, I guess, in the trash can.

Steve-O: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: But, like...

GraceAsscrack: So...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I don't know. Because that little girl just... ah When I was playing, I was like, Jenny, this like like this little clone girl is going to get fucking killed. like I don't know if I'm going to see it, but like this is not a good ending for this chick.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then, ah you know, that was pretty much it. Also, ah they they shoot a little kid in the head.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: I get it. He's little monster at that point, but kind of wild.

GraceAsscrack: Oh yeah, ah Owen watched me play the beginning. Probably not a good good idea since he's only five because he's pretty violent.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: No.

GraceAsscrack: But man, he was gooning for grace.

ThirstTrapLeon: Hell of an intro, by the way. Dude.

GraceAsscrack: he was like, I like her. She's beautiful. i was like, yeah, she's pretty rich.

Steve-O: but he's got a type.

ThirstTrapLeon: You're like, and I'm going to put it in first person mode.

Steve-O: He's got such a type.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: You know what?

GraceAsscrack: He's definitely got type.

ThirstTrapLeon: That is very funny, man.

Steve-O: She's in Fort right at right now, so if you want you want to have a little...

GraceAsscrack: And then he he went to go take a bath in shit and shit and I had to pause the game to wait for him so he could see Leon and I'm like you know what I can't I'm like the old me that what isn't a dad I'd be like fuck that like I'm just gonna play it cause I wanna see Leon but the fact that he wanted he wanted to see Leon I'm like nah I got i gotta do that I gotta wait for him yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah My needs are more important, child.

Steve-O: That's important, that's important.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. And Leon's pretty in dope.

GraceAsscrack: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Just walking around.

GraceAsscrack: yeah Yeah, Sam was getting into it too, because they were just in behind me watching me play in my office for a little bit.

Steve-O: I want to...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that's cool.

GraceAsscrack: She was getting into the crazy story.

Steve-O: It's an entertaining game to watch.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

Steve-O: Like, not many horror games are that entertaining, but Resident Evil always always manages to make them very visually...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: She was getting into the story.

GraceAsscrack: Sam watched me play three remake and four remake. Not the whole game, but like parts of it. Because, yeah, i remember i was asking I was talking to you guys, ah she wanted to play a game like Resident Evil, but without the killing and without without the horror.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I was like, oh, so, like, like fucking Myst?

ThirstTrapLeon: if not Resident Evil?

GraceAsscrack: You want to play Myst?

Steve-O: From this, you're just running around an island.

GraceAsscrack: Because she saw all the puzzle so puzzle stuff and was, like, super interested in that stuff.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I mean...

GraceAsscrack: Which is another thing. The puzzles in this game were very... I don't want to say... Like, Resident Evil 4 puzzles are very... Neanderthal too, but this one was pretty it was pretty not challenging, I would say.

ThirstTrapLeon: I had more trouble.

Steve-O: The puzzles were all three three puzzles.

ThirstTrapLeon: i had more trouble just knowing where to go as opposed to doing the puzzles.

GraceAsscrack: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, I was like, where the, there was a moment where I got really stuck because of when the big boy, the chunky dude breaks in, like I forgot that he wasn't there anymore.

Steve-O: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: So for like a half, ah like two hours, I was like, it's honestly, it's probably why I had all the material to like clear out the room. Cause I was just running laps. was like, What the fuck am I missing?

ThirstTrapLeon: And then I was like, oh, wait a second. And I went in and then, you know, man, dude, I love the the main character syndrome zombie, the singing zombies on opposite ends of the the institute.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: It's like, God, such fun.

Steve-O: They have to keep them separate. Dude, i love the zombies.

GraceAsscrack: Alright, give me your top five Resident Evils. Give me your top five, man.

ThirstTrapLeon: Of all time.

Steve-O: In order.

ThirstTrapLeon: In order, in order, in order.

GraceAsscrack: just not not not You don't have to give me it give it to me in word. Just give me what your top five are.

Steve-O: i would like I would like an order because i would like to see where the placements are since we just talked about them.

ThirstTrapLeon: All right.

GraceAsscrack: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Hold on.

GraceAsscrack: ah we Are we grouping the remakes together or are we so separating them?

ThirstTrapLeon: All

GraceAsscrack: Are we making it hard or making it easy for us?

Steve-O: Make it hard. Make it hard.

GraceAsscrack: Alright, so top five

Steve-O: Remakes included.

GraceAsscrack: Remakes included? Okay, let me see.

Steve-O: right

ThirstTrapLeon: right. Or Resident Evil.

Steve-O: Why did you just turn into What's-His-Face from Men in Black?

ThirstTrapLeon: Because I'm just.

Steve-O: Sugar.

ThirstTrapLeon: Or sugar or sugar. What's five? What is the.

GraceAsscrack: just type them out for Just type them out first, and then ah we'll give them.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: God damn.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, God, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: There's hateful, there's a hateful ask, dude.

GraceAsscrack: This is tough.

Steve-O: Yeah, I wanted to make it hard. This is a podcast. This a podcast.

ThirstTrapLeon: You can book.

GraceAsscrack: One, two.

ThirstTrapLeon: wos

Steve-O: That's my burp.

GraceAsscrack: One, two, three.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, it's your turn to burp.

Steve-O: that' my that's my verb

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay. Oh, God.

ThirstTrapLeon: I didn't do this. Resident Evil 2, Nemesis.

GraceAsscrack: Four, five.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm looking for...

GraceAsscrack: Oh, this was actually easier. And you know what?

ThirstTrapLeon: Next.

GraceAsscrack: Resident Evil Requiem didn't make my top five.

ThirstTrapLeon: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Might be number six, though.

GraceAsscrack: Depends on do I like this or Resident Evil 3 Nemesis more? Like, that's that's where I'm at. I guess I like Resident Evil Requiem more than Resident Evil 3 Nemesis.

ThirstTrapLeon: Whoa. Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Hmm. I'm just...

Steve-O: I got my order.

ThirstTrapLeon: I...

GraceAsscrack: That one's going Resident Evil then Resident Evil 8, and then Resident Evil 7, and then Resident Evil 4.

ThirstTrapLeon: Alright. So it's it's... So top two are probably... Resident Evil Remake...

ThirstTrapLeon: Number one.

GraceAsscrack: What?

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: I thought you hated that game. You just talked about how much you hated.

ThirstTrapLeon: Resident Evil 2 remake.

Steve-O: ah We didn't hear the two.

GraceAsscrack: I think... No, you said you said re yeah you said Resident Evil Remake, and I almost blew a gasket on you.

Steve-O: We didn't hear the two.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh my God. No, I'm sorry.

Steve-O: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm sorry. Now Resident Evil 2 remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's like I want to say Resident Evil 2 original, but that's like I just know. i just know playing it again would be rough.

GraceAsscrack: I think like five years ago I played i played i played them again.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: It was the first time I exhumed my PSP and I have it on there. I have that and Nemesis, I think, on that on that bad boy.

ThirstTrapLeon: Um, you know, uh, okay. All right. I'll just, I'm pulling the bandaid off. Uh, Resident Evil 2 remake Requiem 4 remake Resident Evil 2 and then,

GraceAsscrack: Jesus. Oh my god. Oh my god. What?

ThirstTrapLeon: uh, uh, hold on.

GraceAsscrack: That's crazy, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Uh, and then, uh,

GraceAsscrack: This is recency bias at its finest.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then ah either either I would go Resident Evil 3 Nemesis or Resident Evil 7.

GraceAsscrack: Oh my god. Dude, just make the call now. Give me the five.

ThirstTrapLeon: Resident Evil 7.

GraceAsscrack: You're a psychopath, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Number 5. Okay, okay.

Steve-O: Okay, wait, wait, so hold on. Just say say real quick for me one more time.

GraceAsscrack: Yes! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do all five. Do all do all five again.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay, okay.

GraceAsscrack: Do all five again.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'll go from the bottom. How about that?

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: then no, do do ta no. Do one through five.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Okay, okay.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: So top to bottom.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, hold on.

ThirstTrapLeon: 2 Remake.

GraceAsscrack: Let me type this down.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, two remake, Requiem,

GraceAsscrack: Jesus Christ, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: um

GraceAsscrack: It's crazy.

ThirstTrapLeon: four remake, two original, and Rizzo 7. Yeah,

GraceAsscrack: Seven over Nemesis. Wow.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah I know.

GraceAsscrack: Hold on. Let me...

ThirstTrapLeon: I'll be like, to be perfectly honest, I feel like three Nemesis original, I feel like it's better in my brain and I want to keep it there. Because like, you know, I remember playing it be like, that was sick, but it just wasn't Resident Evil 2.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Even though I love, i thought Nemesis was great. And funny enough, I beat the shit out of that one too. um But yeah. I just said seven. I just got to give it props for.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like it's saved, you know, it's like you saved me. You saved the series, dude.

GraceAsscrack: I guess, but it's like, but like if a guy like pushes you out of the way of a moving vehicle, like does he, does he automatically become your dad?

ThirstTrapLeon: Now, this is like, this is like, this is like, oh, this guy gave me a shot and now I'm successful and I have a house and a family.

GraceAsscrack: So why, so why doesn't four OG give you that? That gap go higher then, because that's basically the same thing, but probably to a bigger extent.

ThirstTrapLeon: um

GraceAsscrack: Because it not only revitalized it not only it not only revitalized the series of Resident Evil, but it actually revolutionized gaming in general, Devin.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because because I think, I think, hold on, hold on.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm going to say this. I think four and four remake are so close in terms of like how it looks and how it plays.

Steve-O: I did.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like they're so similar.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, I thought we were going hard hard hard here.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I just think four and I just think four remake is so much better.

GraceAsscrack: That's crazy to me.

ThirstTrapLeon: like I'm sorry. I think four remake is better. And I mean, I don't know.

GraceAsscrack: That's crazy.

ThirstTrapLeon: It just feels redundant to put four remake and four.

GraceAsscrack: I thought, I mean, if I wanted, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: But I mean, hey, go off.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but like, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Let me let me see. you You know, yeah, let's Steve. Let's see yours.

Steve-O: All right. So I said Resident Evil 2 remake as my number one. And then number two was Resident Evil remake HD. And then number three was Resident Evil 4 remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: OK. Oh.

Steve-O: number or I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I said three was four remake, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: OK. Yeah. Wow.

GraceAsscrack: Wait, wait.

Steve-O: And then three is four remake.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, three is four remake. Okay.

Steve-O: Four is Requiem. And then five is seven.

ThirstTrapLeon: well

GraceAsscrack: Wow, a lot of love for 7 here.

Steve-O: I think everything up until the boat part of that game is is awesome. And then it just loses steam at the end.

GraceAsscrack: Man.

Steve-O: And oh keep in mind, keep in mind, I'm cheating a little bit on this one because.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, you got you guys told me to make it hard, so I made it hard for myself. You guys made it easy with all the remakes in your you're top 5. That's crazy to me.

Steve-O: ah yeah yeah, that's the thing. The remakes, the remakes are so so good.

ThirstTrapLeon: You're so good, dude.

Steve-O: mean, I just can't.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: Can I not?

GraceAsscrack: um here's mine.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: 4OG is number one.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: 2OG is number two.

ThirstTrapLeon: Whoa, okay.

GraceAsscrack: Remake... GameCube Remake is number three.

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: And then 4 Remake, and then 2 Remake.

ThirstTrapLeon: All right.

Steve-O: hold on i might i Hold on.

ThirstTrapLeon: All right.

Steve-O: I might need to swap out seven.

ThirstTrapLeon: Nah, nah.

Steve-O: I might need to swap out seven.

ThirstTrapLeon: Don't let them peer pressure you. Don't let them peer pressure you.

Steve-O: No, going to put Resident Evil 2 OG at five.

GraceAsscrack: Listen, dog, you...

Steve-O: Instead of seven. oh gee

GraceAsscrack: You saw...

Steve-O: at the at at five

GraceAsscrack: Instead of seven?

Steve-O: instead of seven

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but like, this is this is what I meant. You guys are like group you guys are still mentally grouping them together, it feels like.

Steve-O: I am mentally grouping them together.

GraceAsscrack: You know?

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: And I actually tried to make it, you know... Yeah, I had to make it hard for myself.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, I...

GraceAsscrack: Because, like, yeah, if we grouped them together, my rankings changed completely, I think.

ThirstTrapLeon: Again, I think...

GraceAsscrack: um If we grouped the remakes together...

ThirstTrapLeon: I just think it's Resident Evil 1.

GraceAsscrack: If we group the remakes together, 4 remake isnt isn't my number one Resident Evil at that point.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: It would probably be... If we group the remakes together, it's it's the remake 1.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Oh yeah, okay.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: So if we group them, then my top 5 would be remake, and then 4 remake, and then 2 remake, and then...

GraceAsscrack: ah Nemesis. Resident Evil 3 Requiem maybe makes my top five. We grouped the remakes together.

GraceAsscrack: i would say Requiem makes my top five. That's saying something, right?

Steve-O: That's something. Hey, that's like, really? Like, if you think about it, Requiem is the best mainline Resident Evil game since 4.

GraceAsscrack: That's saying something. And I think...

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, this sounds like

Steve-O: It does.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, that says a lot. Like that it would make my top five.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, this this sounds like John in two months is going to be like, he's going to treat it like seven and eight. he' Oh, it's a kill. Under the Suarez rules, that it's a kill.

GraceAsscrack: It might be. I don't know, dude.

Steve-O: Nah, nah, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, that's fucking wild, man.

GraceAsscrack: It depends.

Steve-O: Nah, dude. you You have to just show him a picture of Leon to remind him.

GraceAsscrack: Let me play... Let me play through it like 20 more times and then we'll see.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But that's the thing. like I don't know. um I'm interested to see how the how they um the subsequent playthroughs feel. if like Because, again, as somebody who's beaten Resident Evil 4 and Resident Evil 4 Remake several thousands of times, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, there are times where it's, like, there are points in the game where I feel like I need to get, need to just get through. Specifically, like, the Ashley stuff, right?

GraceAsscrack: And, and again, like, first playthrough, like, the way they did it in the remake was great, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: I thought it was really cool. Like, you could fucking, you know, you could throw fucking torch lamps at at the dudes now, like, and then. okay it's It's hard. It's hard. to It's also really hard to group the remakes together because.

GraceAsscrack: um in my opinion, the remakes adding in the extra stuff really does separate it from the original product, too. But then again, at the same time, it's like but then when you want to talk about what your favorite game in the series is, you know, um I don't know, man, it's it's hard.

Steve-O: It's hard because it's like you always have like an ever-changing perspective on games.

GraceAsscrack: The real question is, am i will I have one of those statues or both of those statues come come fall this year?

Steve-O: so

Steve-O: i think I think you could be proud to have both of those statues.

GraceAsscrack: I don't know.

GraceAsscrack: But you know what?

Steve-O: I'm not telling you what to buy, but I think like I don't think either of those characters, I mean, especially not Leon. We know that already, but we I don't think Grace is an Ethan.

GraceAsscrack: Maybe I'll just get Grace.

Steve-O: I don't think Grace is an Ethan.

GraceAsscrack: Maybe I'll just get the Grace one.

ThirstTrapLeon: I think...

Steve-O: you Really? You're going to skip out on Leon?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Well, I already have my Resident Evil 4 Leon one where he doesn't have TB. And he looks... and he looks He's in top shape. I'm looking at him right now.

Steve-O: Hey, would you buy an Arthur Morgan statue or would you not?

GraceAsscrack: If they...

Steve-O: Because had TB.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, if they did...

Steve-O: He had TB.

GraceAsscrack: If they if if Rockstar actually like used that IP to create... To make stuff to sell, I would buy all of it. Trust me. But like... Yeah, i mean...

Steve-O: You're handpicking your TB characters.

GraceAsscrack: you know You know what, though? you know i am I am slightly regretting not trying to get that that watch, though. Because... Somebody has the two pack of both of them.

GraceAsscrack: Remember that it was like the Leon one was 2000 bucks and the grace one was like 1400 bucks or some shit.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Right.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Somebody has both at the two pack of both of them sealed on eBay. And it's like four days left and there's already like 20 bids and it's already over $8,000 for both.

Steve-O: Jesus.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah,

GraceAsscrack: So I'm like, damn dude. Like if I, if I wanted to fucking go into debt, to get something like that probably could have been the the one thing that appreciate.

GraceAsscrack: it But again, like those values might fall like a couple of years later.

Steve-O: When you guys were playing, every time you saw the watches, did you go, damn, that's like a $2,000 watch?

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah I kind of, ah you know, there was a part of me that was like, how much does Grace make?

Steve-O: Leon?

ThirstTrapLeon: Like for so her character traits, right? Like ah a nebbish shy girl.

GraceAsscrack: Well, she works for the FBI. She's probably

ThirstTrapLeon: i know, but she's shy. Like she doesn't strike me as somebody who that would buy a $2,000 watch. Okay.

GraceAsscrack: maybe, maybe it was a watch that cause that is an older style.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: Hamilton so maybe her mom left it to her or something and that's why she wears it that's actually interesting when you guys play through it like pay attention during the Alyssa stuff and see if she's wearing the watch or not is that because that would be something pretty cool if they in she's got yeah she's got like uh she's got like a trench coat on but like just see just try to see if you can see something that she's wearing on her wrist you know

Steve-O: That makes sense.

ThirstTrapLeon: okay

Steve-O: That'd actually be something.

ThirstTrapLeon: I think she well, she has a hoodie on, I think so. Her sleeves are covered. Yeah. All right.

GraceAsscrack: Because you're right.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: like it doesn't seem She doesn't seem like the kind of person that would wear a fucking automatic watch just whenever she wanted to.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: you know Whereas Leon, man of taste and you know he's refined.

Steve-O: These were fine.

GraceAsscrack: He loves old revolvers. Dude, when he twirled the fucking Requiem after I say oh was like, this guy fucking knows he's the fucking goat.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, that was so sick.

GraceAsscrack: Like he knows he's the goat. Like imagine knowing you're the goat and still being sad from trauma. That That's <unk>s how it is.

Steve-O: he's still talking to Sherry Berkin too I love that that was great yeah like where's Claire where's Claire there

GraceAsscrack: You know?

GraceAsscrack: Dude, that's his that's like his daughter, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: You know?

ThirstTrapLeon: I need some clay.

GraceAsscrack: Even though Sten said it wouldn't be as bad.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: it wouldn't be nearly as bad. He isn't even playing this game. He said it wouldn't be nearly as bad if he was smashing her.

ThirstTrapLeon: definitely

Steve-O: it's it's

ThirstTrapLeon: That would be that wouldd be pretty rough.

Steve-O: It's because of science.

GraceAsscrack: Pretty, pretty fucking rough.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'd lose. i'd put him I'd put him in the Epstein files if I found that out.

Steve-O: That'd be bad.

ThirstTrapLeon: right brown Absolutely not.

Steve-O: That would be bad. He's not Lea DiCaprio.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, that's some, like, Yeah, that's some Woody Allen shit, dude. it Literally his adopted daughter, basically. But, ah like, addie how do you feel, because I was telling Devin about this, or we were talking about it, like, you know, like, you think Grace is, like, trying to get in on on Leon a little bit.

GraceAsscrack: And there was the moment, there was the moment where she, like, wakes him up, and Leon, like like, from his fucking TB seizure that he had.

Steve-O: No.

GraceAsscrack: And he was just like, hey, you. And i was like, oh, she's cooked. She's fucking, she's head over heels now.

Steve-O: Oh, you think that' funny locked it in and that's Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, she's locked in now.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, it's over.

Steve-O: That's how he guaranteed that.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, she's having a flirty-ass phone call at the end of the game.

GraceAsscrack: And not only not only that, but he he left he left Emily alive and they were able to save her.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, man. i

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, i I'll be honest.

Steve-O: I didn't think that was...

ThirstTrapLeon: That was fucking... That was corny.

Steve-O: hate the vitals.

ThirstTrapLeon: I didn't hit any vitals.

GraceAsscrack: Really? didn't like that?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, what the... What you mean you didn't hit any vitals?

Steve-O: Bro, she's a fucking giant baked potato. How the fuck do you know where the vials

ThirstTrapLeon: You lit her up, bro. What are you talking about?

GraceAsscrack: Leon knows, dude. He's seen it.

Steve-O: ring

GraceAsscrack: he so he didn't he didn't hit and He didn't hit any of her fucking pizza bubbles.

ThirstTrapLeon: Nah, nah, dude. You know what?

Steve-O: I was shooting for a Leon and I knew I wasn't trying to hit.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, John, John, you know what?

GraceAsscrack: You know know, I didn't...

ThirstTrapLeon: Requiem, Requiem drops a slot because of that.

GraceAsscrack: Yo, real talk.

ThirstTrapLeon: I forgot. It's number four.

GraceAsscrack: yeah real

ThirstTrapLeon: Number four.

GraceAsscrack: Real talk, though. Real talk. I did not i didn't even try to shoot it.

Steve-O: Did you really not?

GraceAsscrack: the thing. It just... Yeah, I didn't shoot it and it it just shot it shot her once.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. He, he, he just shoots her like one more time. Right. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah. so there is something there, Devin.

Steve-O: Oh. That's smart.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: You know what?

ThirstTrapLeon: Nah.

Steve-O: Maybe the game should have been smart enough and been like, oh, I lit her ass up.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, dude.

GraceAsscrack: Like, the the red this the Reddit is like, dude, she fucking died. Like...

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that was the thing, like...

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, she died and yeah and and Grace tried to do it like CPR and shit. Like, she was dead.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that was that was intense, dude. That was an intense...

GraceAsscrack: he didn't He didn't have to

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: He didn't have to hit her vitals. She was already gone.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, she was fucking dead, and then she turned into a potato, yeah. A twice-baked potato with fangs.

Steve-O: fucking SCPS looking motherfucker nah nah nah just some vitals

ThirstTrapLeon: Nah, nah, nah, dude. I only hit her in the shoulders. Shoulders and I grazed her.

GraceAsscrack: So as as s as somebody who played the the DLCs for the the other, for 7 and 8, do they like just make you play as, like do they add a

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: other playable characters to play as or I mean they they did well Ethan's daughter right in eight

Steve-O: oh in 7 they did yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, and and considering consider it's the same game director, Seven's DLC is fucking legendary. And...

GraceAsscrack: oh yeah because they have the fucking yeah they got yeah they have not a hero like six different perspectives right if seven or four four

Steve-O: That's Joe, Joe Baker.

ThirstTrapLeon: well Well, so it comes with not a hero. ah it also... Yeah, it has... ah Which is great, honestly. And then it has... um

GraceAsscrack: No, six for the two two remake DLC that I didn't play.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well... Yeah, and then there's like Ethan, like there's a cool gameplay mechanic modes, like Ethan must die. is It's a randomizer mode. And then there's the fucking Jack or Joe Baker, who's power bombing swamp monster.

Steve-O: Joe Baker. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like, dude.

GraceAsscrack: you're

ThirstTrapLeon: So, because one of the things, yeah one of the things I was talking to John about is I was like, there's, I don't want say Claire Erasure.

GraceAsscrack: expecting some good DLC.

ThirstTrapLeon: Like she's clearly a thing, but

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, yeah. Can we talk about that? Because i felt i felt ah i thought two two different types of ways when I hit when i hit RPD, right?

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

GraceAsscrack: I felt for Leon, you know, it was tugging at my heart heartstrings because it said the hero returns, right? Like that's the name of the achievement. But it's like, oh, there was another fucking hero that was also very specifically vital to...

GraceAsscrack: everything else that happened in the series named Claire Redfield, like where's she at?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. They were...

GraceAsscrack: Like, she's the hero too. Like, are we going to address that too?

ThirstTrapLeon: She was... And she should be equally as traumatized, you know? Like...

GraceAsscrack: Even more so, I think. Cause like, because it was her brother.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I guess maybe if Chris died, then yeah, maybe her trauma is less.

ThirstTrapLeon: like Like, maybe Leon didn't take as much away from it because, you know, he's a cop and all that.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: But, like, still, she had a... yeah She has the Raccoon City disease. She's a... Definitely has that baggage. And again, she was just as important to them getting out as as Leon was.

GraceAsscrack: yeah yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: And the fact that she doesn't even get a name drop is interesting.

GraceAsscrack: you know maybe maybe they really maybe there is something to your theory steve maybe they really are going to code veronica next because they they could address they could address they could address all this stuff yeah they could address all of this stuff in a code veronica remake like it's really like you know you get

Steve-O: I mean, they've got it, right?

ThirstTrapLeon: That seems like it should be the next one.

ThirstTrapLeon: But what if, you know, they can tease me with a ah Claire, a Claire DLC. in in nine.

GraceAsscrack: Nah, save it for the whole game.

Steve-O: I think we're going to get an Ada DLC.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm good on Ada.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, I wish.

ThirstTrapLeon: I don't need any more Ada.

GraceAsscrack: You're psycho.

Steve-O: She's got, dude, she's probably got Funky Hand too, man.

GraceAsscrack: She's also a clone.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe her clone melt. Oh, fuck. Sixth, so bad.

Steve-O: her clone Her clone didn't get the T-virus.

GraceAsscrack: Man, I want to know who the fucking the the wolf dude was that landed down with the...

Steve-O: Dude, that was fake Redfield.

GraceAsscrack: With the fuck, with the fucking fake red, fake.

Steve-O: That's fake Redfield, where he's like, got a god message from Chris Redfield for you.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah. fri' Fris Redfield with his with his fur coat that he had when he when he when he descended from the helicopter.

Steve-O: Dude, I... I legit think that they used that model as the guy who gave Grace the cup when she's in the ambulance with the blanket over.

Steve-O: I think it was that guy.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah.

Steve-O: i was like, that motherfucker.

GraceAsscrack: He looked like Chris. He looked like Chris.

Steve-O: He kind of looked like that weird funky seven, Chris.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man.

Steve-O: ah Chris couldn't even show up. Too good for everybody.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Is Jill okay?

GraceAsscrack: wednesday

Steve-O: Does Jill also have funky hand too then?

ThirstTrapLeon: du they They probably all have it.

GraceAsscrack: Yo, hear me out. Hear me out, guys. Ethan Winters DLC for Resident Evil Requiem.

Steve-O: ah The mold man is back.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, dude.

GraceAsscrack: The mole sauce is back.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know what? What if there was just the mode where just Leon was just being chased by Ethan?

Steve-O: the

ThirstTrapLeon: And like any damage that he does, Ethan just shrugs off because, you know.

Steve-O: ah Just pours fucking Robitussin all over his hands.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: dude Dude, Leon leon and DLC has a lot of fucking potential for this game, I think.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, dude.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: like that would they can go They could do a lot with that.

Steve-O: Oh, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: i wouldn't put it It wouldn't put put it past me for them to add like a Mercenaries-type content to.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

Steve-O: We could add pistols.

Steve-O: Oh, they're definitely going to put mercenaries in them, right?

GraceAsscrack: We could play as Diet Wesker, and it's not going be nearly as fun as Resident Evil 4 Wesker, who's the fucking...

Steve-O: let you play as hunk, I bet.

GraceAsscrack: Which will might be almost as fun.

Steve-O: Oh, a hunk DLC? Oh, shit.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, you mean that ends with you just getting fucking murdered?

Steve-O: that You're getting fucking skewered.

ThirstTrapLeon: Actually, you know, actually, that'd be kind of cool if like the DLC literally ends with you just

GraceAsscrack: Oh, man.

ThirstTrapLeon: kid opening the door and running into Leon.

GraceAsscrack: And it's just, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: And then you're like, well.

GraceAsscrack: And he's just a silhouette in the background, like, kind of like when Abby runs into Ellie in at the end of Last of Us 2.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, man. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Or at the end of Act 2 or whatever. Where you're just like, oh, God, like, this little fucking scrawny-ass girl. Oh, shit, she's tough. She's fucking tough as hell.

ThirstTrapLeon: shit.

GraceAsscrack: She's fucking me up.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: But yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Yeah. So right now, early, early days. I'm going to say go to contender.

Steve-O: um I'm with you. I have a small list of the best things of 2026 and this easily made it.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, what what else what else could come out that could top this, you think?

ThirstTrapLeon: What else could it be? Oh,

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, no, no. what else What else is coming out this year that could top it?

Steve-O: There's a few, but I don't think many.

ThirstTrapLeon: Grand Theft Auto six.

GraceAsscrack: That's not coming out. That's not coming out this year, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's come.

Steve-O: That's never coming out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, they doubled down, dude.

Steve-O: That's never coming out.

ThirstTrapLeon: They doubled down.

Steve-O: Nah, there's going to be like some kid who like walked across the street and they're going cancel it for two years. years

ThirstTrapLeon: Also, you know what? Listen, I love me some RE9, but I'm very glad it came out because now the door has been open.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, Wolverine.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no. Now the door has been open for my Onimushi content.

GraceAsscrack: That's not coming out.

ThirstTrapLeon: Where's my release date? It's coming out.

GraceAsscrack: That's not coming out this year.

ThirstTrapLeon: Fable's coming out.

GraceAsscrack: Marathon.

ThirstTrapLeon: Wolverine's coming out. me

Steve-O: Control Resonant.

ThirstTrapLeon: Man, how...

GraceAsscrack: Halo. Halo remake remake remake is coming out.

ThirstTrapLeon: John, you didn't even touch that, did you, right? Service Land?

GraceAsscrack: What?

ThirstTrapLeon: Marathon?

GraceAsscrack: No, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: ah Like, i was talking dude I was talking to Amir about this the other day.

Steve-O: ah Pragmata.

ThirstTrapLeon: step

GraceAsscrack: I'm like, is Bungie fucking stupid like why would they release their their open beta to get ready for the game the fucking same day as resident evil requiem

ThirstTrapLeon: I think it like, I think Requiem like broke its own like Twitch records or something.

Steve-O: it broke records.

GraceAsscrack: it broke every record for steam records yeah for for yeah like like who's playing marathon right now nobody people are are people don't want to watch marathon on twitch right now they want to watch resident evil requiem you know

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, Blood of the Dawnwalker be a game of the year.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh yeah. That, that game that,

Steve-O: I'm looking at all our first six and I'm, I'm dude. i'd Like the thing is, it's like, what if, what if Pragmata is good? Like what if Capcom has two game of the year contenders in 2026? Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: but Wasn't it that the same Resident Evil 4 came out?

ThirstTrapLeon: dude Dude, that demo, that i don't know if you played it. those I think the combat made sense. I don't think it shows very well, but I was like, oh, okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: And I kind of dug my time with it. Yeah.

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: Man, are Resident Evil and insantm our res evil team and Insomniac on the same schedule?

Steve-O: They might be.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah

GraceAsscrack: Because Resident Evil 4 and Spider-Man 2 came out same year.

Steve-O: With Wolverine. 2023?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: twenty twenty three Oh, damn.

GraceAsscrack: And then, yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Yeah, I mean, dude, did Wolverine. Yeah, Wolverine got a release date.

GraceAsscrack: Wolverine's coming out this year.

ThirstTrapLeon: It said confirmed, which I was like, maybe.

Steve-O: okay

ThirstTrapLeon: I think GTA 6 is coming out.

GraceAsscrack: You knew.

ThirstTrapLeon: I think...

GraceAsscrack: It's not coming out, dude.

Steve-O: So let's let's because we got I want to give us 10 minutes because this is a three hour podcast because Resident Evil is special.

GraceAsscrack: GTA 6.

Steve-O: Hmm.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, you know what? Real call. I was telling my son as the game was loading. i was like, listen. I was like, he was like, why he was like why why are you excited?

GraceAsscrack: he was like why are you so excited? i was like, this is me, Uncle Steve, Uncle Devin, Uncle Chris. I was like, this is our game series. I'm like, everything we love is from this game series.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, we we play every single one. We know everything about every game. I was like, this is our game. like I was like, that's why I got to play it now.

Steve-O: Mm.

GraceAsscrack: And chris yeah, I was like, that's why that's why you're sleeping at Lola's on Saturday night so I can play this till 5 a.m.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's why I can't feed you. You got to be hungry tonight.

GraceAsscrack: because that's what happened. But yeah, I told him, I was like, dude, this is our game. i'm like, you know, like this is the game we always talk about me, me and my friends. So I

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, man. I think Bubsy4D is coming out, John.

GraceAsscrack: And he was like, where's Leon?

ThirstTrapLeon: You know, could we?

GraceAsscrack: I have it on... Did I pre-order it?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. You know.

GraceAsscrack: Dude, he made me he made me put Bubsy on. like He made me... He wanted to play... some Did you see... Have you been watching my Steam shit? Steve?

Steve-O: It's your current, your current discord activity is Bubsy in the perfect collection.

ThirstTrapLeon: No.

GraceAsscrack: ah Yeah! Yeah!

ThirstTrapLeon: Wow. I didn't even look at that. That's very funny.

GraceAsscrack: Listen, dude. He just likes... see i have it on fucking like infinite health mode for him, too, so he doesn't die immediately in the game when he plays.

Steve-O: That's fun.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah. I earned a... Look, look at this. Proof that I have a child and that um February 28th, I earned a Bubsy trading card.

Steve-O: Oh, Steam. That's how you know. That's how you know.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, that's, you know, that I wasn't only playing Resident Evil Requiem as I should on February 28th. But yeah.

Steve-O: Did you get some of the Resi too?

GraceAsscrack: but yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: Dude, i thought I thought you were going to kill me because i had RE8 on like an hour after RE9 came on. i was like, John's going to fucking screenshot this and scream at me.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, no. i was Dude, i was black I was completely blacked out. You can't be too careful, man.

ThirstTrapLeon: Listen, we turned we turned the Resident Evil channel to an angel channel for like a day.

GraceAsscrack: These days.

ThirstTrapLeon: That was fun.

Steve-O: We did.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, after my my ah my salute.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, my God.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, we're like, oh, don't worry.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah. I can unmute it.

ThirstTrapLeon: We'll make it safe for you. We can.

Steve-O: we just did all angel gifts

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, it's just angel gifts, dude.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, my God. I'm looking at him now.

Steve-O: oh

GraceAsscrack: Jesus.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, but. Oh, OK.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, yeah. So let's go. Ten minutes.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, you want to you want to just.

Steve-O: unabashedly a Mary I think across the board

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. but Yeah. All right.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, no, no. Here's one more question about Resident Evil.

ThirstTrapLeon: OK. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Will Tim finish it?

ThirstTrapLeon: ah

GraceAsscrack: I don't think he will.

Steve-O: Tim said he finished it.

ThirstTrapLeon: No, no, he he he he he confirmed he hit credits.

Steve-O: He said it in the Resident Evil channel.

GraceAsscrack: ah

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Hold on.

Steve-O: i

GraceAsscrack: Let me see.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's like top five, he said?

Steve-O: I've got some Tim thoughts. He... ah

GraceAsscrack: right. Let's hear it.

Steve-O: So real quick, Tim, Tim thoughts.

GraceAsscrack: What did he say?

Steve-O: He said, ah did do do to do um I'm scrolling up. Um, oh, he, okay. I'm sorry. Uh, he said, ah it's at least a 9.8. I did feel that it got a little fan servicey towards the end. Uh, I get that going back to RPD is just fan service in itself, but I don't think I needed a hatchet fight specifically to give Leon another one V one knives only versus Krauser moment.

Steve-O: But it's, It was fucking phenomenal anyway.

ThirstTrapLeon: Nah, Tim, that's a bad take.

GraceAsscrack: Are you fucking kidding me, bro? That was his nitpick with the game?

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, that hunk fight was just, you know what?

GraceAsscrack: oh my god.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: You know what?

ThirstTrapLeon: john John, just send him a knife.

GraceAsscrack: He didn't he didn't play.

ThirstTrapLeon: Just send him a picture of a knife.

GraceAsscrack: Dude.

Steve-O: but

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm coming for you. Send him picture of your multi-tool and be like, count your days.

GraceAsscrack: There's no way.

GraceAsscrack: Speaking of which, these games would go way faster if they had a fucking if they gave DSO and RPD one multi-tool would solve half of these problems.

Steve-O: Count your days.

GraceAsscrack: You know?

Steve-O: and a Leatherman. All

ThirstTrapLeon: Considering, uh, yeah, I got weirdly emotional when I found that Jack.

GraceAsscrack: Give him a Leatherman. Yeah, get him a Leatherman.

Steve-O: right.

GraceAsscrack: But yeah, okay.

Steve-O: Let's, let's, let's ah ah lightning round our, ah

GraceAsscrack: Fucking Tim, dude.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Are you serious?

ThirstTrapLeon: Man.

GraceAsscrack: He didn't even know that it was Hunk.

ThirstTrapLeon: That'd

GraceAsscrack: Does he even know who Hunk is? Like what?

ThirstTrapLeon: be really funny, dude.

Steve-O: I mean, i said, i mean, I said afterwards, I was like, I was like, i really liked the Leon versus hunk moment.

GraceAsscrack: What the fuck?

Steve-O: So maybe he's like, hunk.

ThirstTrapLeon: He's like, who's that? but

Steve-O: Are you talking about some sort of handsome man?

ThirstTrapLeon: and

Steve-O: Did you, did you just say Leon's name twice?

GraceAsscrack: Oh my god, dude. Don't even go there.

Steve-O: It's the Ra's al Ghul moment, baby.

ThirstTrapLeon: Wait, is this a text conversation or is this in ah in the Discord?

Steve-O: This is Discord DMs.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, Discord DMs.

GraceAsscrack: Bro.

Steve-O: Yeah, because i I sent a little gif after he beat it, so he was messaging me.

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay, okay.

GraceAsscrack: Oh my God. Oh God.

Steve-O: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Well, thanks for,

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, well, you know what? Dude, it's going to be 2 in the morning. John's just going sweaty thinking about this.

GraceAsscrack: I'm going to wake up in a cold sweat.

Steve-O: but

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I was going say, that's

GraceAsscrack: Like what? That's like the opposite of like, they nail Colossus. It's like,

Steve-O: yeah

GraceAsscrack: No, that's the fucking coolest part of the game! Are you serious, dude?

Steve-O: I think...

GraceAsscrack: And he's, like, fucking downplaying the Krauser fight like that was a bad thing in Resident Evil 4.

Steve-O: think...

GraceAsscrack: Like, it give me a fucking break, bro.

Steve-O: the I think...

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah but

Steve-O: I think...

GraceAsscrack: Are you fucking serious, dude?

Steve-O: Requiem just became Jon's new favorite game just to spite

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: Like, how is that... That is the one thing he took away from like, it's not a 9.8 because of fucking, or it's not a 10 because he fought Hunk with a knife and a hatchet.

Steve-O: He did say, to be fair, he did say ah it was a, he he he said it was a masterpiece.

GraceAsscrack: Bro.

Steve-O: And um

GraceAsscrack: Devin, davin haven dain Devin, dain Devin,

Steve-O: he said, i don't think it's a perfect 10 out of 10, but it's close.

GraceAsscrack: heaven and dad and It's close to a perfect 10, but the the the one thing that should make it a perfect 10 makes it not a perfect 10.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: I didn't really care for the Mr. X callback. don't know why I had to go back to Raccoon City Police Department.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, where's that complaint?

ThirstTrapLeon: Okay. Yeah, my go yeah yeah

GraceAsscrack: And RPD was fan service? Yeah, but also, like, why what? What, dog?

Steve-O: All right, we got to do a lightning round.

GraceAsscrack: Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry.

ThirstTrapLeon: bye-bye.

Steve-O: Lightning round. No, we're good. We're good.

ThirstTrapLeon: Jesus. All right right. We got switch gears. Okay. All right.

Steve-O: All right, so lightning round.

ThirstTrapLeon: okay

Steve-O: A24 announced the King Pixels Backrooms movie is coming out.

ThirstTrapLeon: right

GraceAsscrack: Thank you.

Steve-O: We got a little teaser trailer for it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yes.

Steve-O: I'm stoked. This looks awesome.

ThirstTrapLeon: That does look sick. um There's a trailer for, to me, it's funny because there's another trailer that we'll talk about in a few minutes that, you know, ah to me, this kind of, I was like, oh, this reminds me In a Violent Nature. Not the way they shot it, but ah this trailer called, this horror movie called Dolly just kind of looks like that little Kind of grindhouse-y vibe.

ThirstTrapLeon: Looks kind of creepy.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: I dug it. We'll just go in order. I won't be cute about it. We talked about Wolverine getting a release date. Pretty sick. ah Speaking of animes, I haven't watched. Neon Genesis, even Gellion, however you want to pronounce it, gets a new anime penned by Yoko Taro, which that's that's the selling point.

ThirstTrapLeon: That's a near the near guy, basically. um Chris posted, I haven't watched this, a trailer for Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, which I believe is are the people behind i Saw the TV Glow.

ThirstTrapLeon: I'm guessing, but I think that is the case.

Steve-O: OK.

ThirstTrapLeon: I personally did not love that movie, but I understand it's it's quite liked.

GraceAsscrack: Thank you.

ThirstTrapLeon: You know whatever. I didn't see the trailer. What I did see a trailer for, and Chris definitely loves this movie, Mortal Kombat 2. All Johnny Cage, all day. I'm vibing with it.

Steve-O: That's fair.

ThirstTrapLeon: Limited run games might be one of my favorite game studios or publishers or whatever you want to call them.

Steve-O: More Johnny.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Because they just kind of go, hey, remember these sick games from your childhood? We made a compilation.

Steve-O: oh

ThirstTrapLeon: Enjoy it. This one is for Marvel games, Marvel beat them ups. from the good ones to they were the really, really, really bad ones like, you know, X-Men Arcade our Arcade's Revenge, I should say, the Silver Surfer game.

ThirstTrapLeon: Some of these games are notoriously god awful, but I don't know.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: There's just something really cool about just putting all those together.

Steve-O: It's a fun package. You're getting the X-Men arcade game, which is already like a banger, and it has online multiplayer.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. ah

Steve-O: So.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I don't even know how this is a story. I mean, outside of it actually being a story. But ah Steve, I know you're really hoping for that Sony Spider-Verse spinoff.

Steve-O: I was I was stoked.

ThirstTrapLeon: But sorry, they've officially killed it.

Steve-O: Craven, I'm craving the Craven.

ThirstTrapLeon: Kraven, shockingly, that thing that we all knew wasn't going to do well, didn't do well.

Steve-O: Why?

ThirstTrapLeon: And they've they've canceled all those plans. So the sorry, Venom. Sorry, Kraven. Sorry, Morbius. figure it out. So he's like, we'll, we'll take another crack at it in like four years before we lose the rights to keep the rights.

Steve-O: Pour one out.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Oh man, this one, this one stings, I guess.

Steve-O: This sucks. This sucks.

ThirstTrapLeon: um

ThirstTrapLeon: Warner Brothers Discovery originally signed the deal pen and paper to Netflix In terms of just kind of acquisition mergers and then things falling through, kind of crazy news, but they are now, they've officially been outbid by paramounts Paramount. Paramount Netflix chose to not raise their bid.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah It's kind of, both options are gross. Paramount just seemed a little bit more gross because it's very obvious what they're doing. They want control of CNN. The Ellisons have gross,

Steve-O: They want control the media.

ThirstTrapLeon: gross ties to the current administration as well as they're just using a lot of Saudi money, which is just, you know, it's just, it's just ugly all around, but you know, were yeah.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: it was It was shitty before, but we got the bad ending of the shitty thing.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah. This is like both options are bad. this is the worst of the two options. um plus The people that are excited that this is a thing are the worst people that you know, to be honest.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Man, I want to be positive. I am still going to be positive. I do not understand why the first live action image that was posted officially is this weird picture of Kratos and Atreus.

Steve-O: Why'd you post this weird AI picture? What is this?

ThirstTrapLeon: five

Steve-O: Where's the real one?

ThirstTrapLeon: I don't like dude dude it's just an awkward pose

GraceAsscrack: It looks so bad. But no, no.

Steve-O: It looks so bad.

GraceAsscrack: To be fair, to be fair, we were saying the same shit about The Last of Us when they released those pictures.

ThirstTrapLeon: no listen I get it but it's like no I think they look they look they looked fine and and you know what they did they said here's like a hero shot this is not a hero shot uh

GraceAsscrack: So...

Steve-O: Did we say the same thing about Zelda too? those's all The Zelda pictures?

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, but that's just gonna be bad

GraceAsscrack: going to be bad. paramounts make Paramount's making Zelda, right?

Steve-O: I think... ah

GraceAsscrack: So Donald Trump's going to be Link.

ThirstTrapLeon: Snowden? I thought Sony was...

Steve-O: oh

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, boy.

GraceAsscrack: Oh, is it Sony? Yeah, you're you're right. It's Sony. Never mind.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: We might be safe.

ThirstTrapLeon: i heard

GraceAsscrack: We won't be safe.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Well, because Morbius didn't work out, so now they're doing that.

Steve-O: Yeah, they kind of ruined Link.

ThirstTrapLeon: um Yeah, it's just like a weird... i don't know, man. Let me see Kratos looking heroic or tough. Not him just going like...

ThirstTrapLeon: well He looks like he's shitting.

Steve-O: Yeah, it looks strange.

ThirstTrapLeon: it's It's just ah an unfortunate picture.

Steve-O: my Are the graphics of the God of War games so good that anything that is like off about it comes out as weird and wrong? Like, is that just where we're at?

ThirstTrapLeon: don't know. It's just because it's like weird because it just looks like really great cosplay, which is a tough line because it's like that is what you want.

Steve-O: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: You don't want them to change it.

Steve-O: Right.

ThirstTrapLeon: But when it does look like this, it's like, okay.

Steve-O: Is this reverse? What is it? ah Uncanny Valley.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's just... i it Honestly, i think Atreus looks fine. I have no issue with Atreus.

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: I do with his hair product because they didn clearly come

ThirstTrapLeon: It's...

ThirstTrapLeon: No, let him look cool.

Steve-O: Got a little moose in there.

ThirstTrapLeon: Let him look cool, dude.

Steve-O: He's got a little moose.

ThirstTrapLeon: Let him look cool. Apparently, that kid's really good. He was in Night Agent, I think, which is like a show currently airing. People are into him. like They're like, oh, this kid's pretty good. so Cool.

ThirstTrapLeon: like ah um I'm alright.

Steve-O: They should have got dipshit Derek.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's just... Yeah. No. No, we do not need to be more attention there. It's just, dude, I don't know. Somebody should be like, that's what we want to go for? Like, this is the one?

ThirstTrapLeon: Somebody signed off and said, yeah, this is the one. This will blow em away. Cool. ah In a Violent Nature 2. Steve, did you ever see this?

Steve-O: No.

ThirstTrapLeon: You should watch it. The first one's great.

Steve-O: Okay.

ThirstTrapLeon: The second one, I think, is going to continue to be great. um Because it's just this with a little bit more of a budget. um The whole vibe of the trailer is fun. Really kind of grindhouse decor.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Pretty sick.

Steve-O: Okay. Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah Maybe Sony put this out. Maybe they didn't. But news about... Maybe backtracking a little bit of that Sony hate for the Bluepoint closing. Still, they deserve a lot because Bluepoint still could have done a million other things.

ThirstTrapLeon: But what everybody thought was, why didn't they do Bloodborne? They wanted to. Sony said, we're down from software. Apparently, is they said no. They said, no, we're not comfortable with you doing that.

ThirstTrapLeon: And Sony, even though they own it, they just it's not worth damaging the relationship. So... We just didn't get there.

GraceAsscrack: That would be so interesting, though, if they got, like, fucking...

ThirstTrapLeon: And this is like a, like,

GraceAsscrack: Bloober Studios to do Bloodborne. That would be pretty awesome.

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah. I mean, that'd be, that'd be really insulting.

GraceAsscrack: just to see Just to see the community fucking have a meltdown over it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. To be honest. But ah yeah, there's some stories and I get it. Not everything's like super clear and clean cut because it's real life.

GraceAsscrack: But it's pretty jarring that FromSoftware was the gatekeeper on this one.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, but at the end of the day, like Sony misused the studio because they had them working on a live service. Fucking God of War game.

GraceAsscrack: But, you know, yeah, to be fair, like they probably had them working on that because Bloodborne wasn't in the cards, I guess, you know?

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, they were doing that because initially initially they were support studio for Ragnarok and then they're like, oh, you should. And then the live action push happened and they I think it was like one of those like, you know, paper,

ThirstTrapLeon: Blue Points, you know, came up with the idea to do a live action service game. But I think that's one of those scenarios where it's like, I don't think they really said we want to make a live action fucking game.

Steve-O: No, there's no way.

ThirstTrapLeon: And and honestly, I think there were similar stories.

Steve-O: they said that

ThirstTrapLeon: I think Sony Santa Monica wasn't thrilled about a God of War proper game being worked on without Sony Santa Monica being involved.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: So it's I don't know if you just.

Steve-O: They bought a remake studio, but nobody wanted their games to be remade by an outside company.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. And then they just, but again, the live action thing is, it was a total fucking misfire.

Steve-O: I bet you Sony was like, we need to find something for you guys.

ThirstTrapLeon: It's wasted years.

Steve-O: Would you be down to work on a God of War, like spinoff multiplayer game?

GraceAsscrack: Thank you.

Steve-O: And they were like, sure. We just need something.

ThirstTrapLeon: Something.

Steve-O: We need something.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. It's, I don't know. um So it just more bad news. It it sucks. um Steve, just I just want to vibe check.

Steve-O: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Did you the Pokemon starters? Did you see anything? Are you vibing?

Steve-O: Oh yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Not vibing.

Steve-O: There's one that I'm all about and it's Palm bond baby, dude, fire dog.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, du that's the only one.

Steve-O: Let's go.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that's free that's pretty sick.

Steve-O: It looks, it looks beautiful. I'm excited. ah It's coming out next year. So little bit of a wait, but Pocopia comes out next week. ah John, are are you going to be getting that?

GraceAsscrack: ah Sam is gonna get it.

Steve-O: Okay. Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: I'm not gonna be playing that game, but...

Steve-O: keep ah Just just like kind of get some feelers for me because I'm curious to hear what the thoughts are.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah. Yeah, I'll let you know, because she'll probably be playing that.

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: You what? Maybe I'll spend my gift card on that.

GraceAsscrack: That way I don't have to actually buy it.

Steve-O: It's got some like wild online stuff. Yeah. um I'm going to be playing WWE next week.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: yeah

ThirstTrapLeon: going to make weapon?

GraceAsscrack: On PC?

Steve-O: ah pc yeah

GraceAsscrack: yeah Yeah, you have to make weapon. kidding That's gotta be the first one you make.

Steve-O: I got to make weapon weapons and weapons in every game.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, Steve make.

GraceAsscrack: Yeah, I'm expecting to see weapon.

ThirstTrapLeon: ah

ThirstTrapLeon: Reminder, by the way, weapons, initial, initial influences.

GraceAsscrack: Weapon 209.

Steve-O: The upgrade.

ThirstTrapLeon: Mr. X.

GraceAsscrack: You should make 109 weapons.

Steve-O: Oh.

GraceAsscrack: you should make a hundred and nine weapons Weapon through

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

Steve-O: Make them all messed up and weird.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, the current continuity is you just won 109. Was it bodybuilding competitions?

Steve-O: No, no, no. I'm making it.

GraceAsscrack: no

ThirstTrapLeon: or yeah a Okay.

GraceAsscrack: no i can like web fex

Steve-O: I'm making it. There's literally that many.

GraceAsscrack: Nah, like it like weapon X. There's 109 weapons out there.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah.

GraceAsscrack: They're all... ah There can only be one.

ThirstTrapLeon: Oh, shoot. All right. So, yeah, Pom Bon. That's pretty sick. And kind of, I guess, breaking news, right? We'll we'll see. But we found this out about like 20 minutes before we record it.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

ThirstTrapLeon: Cory Barlog's God of War title. Well, we know what Corey's been working on.

GraceAsscrack: Man, this is juicy.

Steve-O: It's juicy.

ThirstTrapLeon: Apparently, this is like Jason Schreier confirmed it. Some other people confirmed it. They're like, yeah, pretty much. They're working on a new God of War game, not focused on Kratos, but focusing on his wife, Faye.

ThirstTrapLeon: And the action is going to be less God of War traditional that we think and closer to something like Devil May Just more action oriented. So they said closer to more in line with Devil May Cry.

ThirstTrapLeon: How much of this is going to be the reality in like, you know, a month or whatever, because I'm sure we're going to hear something different. relatively soon just as a result but i'm I'm in I'm in I that guy that guy has a lot of rope to burn Corey Barlog so I what am I gonna do be mad like now dude yeah this guy who makes great games is making a another great game I'm but it starts a stupid lady so I'm mad like nah dude F off

Steve-O: I think this sounds cool.

GraceAsscrack: I think this sounds amazing.

Steve-O: Mm-hmm.

Steve-O: Oh, the talented game guy is going to make a talented, cool game. Oh, my God.

Steve-O: If you're all about PlayStation, you're all about ladies. Think about it.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. ah we don't have the time for that. But, John, we we read something and then i we started doing the math. And, yeah, Sony's very, very pro lady.

GraceAsscrack: sorry Yeah, there might be some there.

ThirstTrapLeon: Very pro lady.

Steve-O: Female protagonists, baby.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, they love them. They love the female pro tags.

GraceAsscrack: I love them.

ThirstTrapLeon: Well, I love them. Okay.

GraceAsscrack: You love women protagonists? I love them.

ThirstTrapLeon: so

Steve-O: All right, gamers.

ThirstTrapLeon: Thanks. Thanks, Colonel Suarez Jaw.

Steve-O: We got to get out of here. We got to go.

ThirstTrapLeon: but

GraceAsscrack: You love You love protagonist women. them.

ThirstTrapLeon: I love him.

Steve-O: All right. we'll be be We'll be back next week with the Christmas podcast. ah

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah,

Steve-O: ah um We will definitely probably have Chris back next week. um

ThirstTrapLeon: yeah the yeah this is the Christmas.

Steve-O: ah i hope you I hope he gets a chance to kind of dabble in Resident Evil 9. It doesn't sound like he's had a

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, he said i haven't even breathed on it yet. chris You don't notice my guy.

GraceAsscrack: interested I'm interested to see how it looks on the Steam Deck after seeing all the other things.

Steve-O: Yeah, I mean...

GraceAsscrack: feel like I feel like you guys forcing me to play it not on Switch 2 is probably for the best.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, that you know, Steve, thank you.

Steve-O: It sounds like it it it ran decently on Switch, too, though.

GraceAsscrack: It's

Steve-O: I saw some some...

ThirstTrapLeon: Now, do you see those screenshots?

Steve-O: No, I didn't see any screenshots, but...

ThirstTrapLeon: so I mean, listen, this a screenshot, but ah you can just tell there's a difference is all I'm to say.

GraceAsscrack: tough, dude. It's tough.

Steve-O: It's rough.

GraceAsscrack: tough

Steve-O: Okay.

GraceAsscrack: she looks like an Grace looks like a fucking alien. She looks like an alien.

Steve-O: Oh, no.

GraceAsscrack: On on regular PS5, there's a lot of people coping, saying that it doesn't really look like that, but like the the one was like from legit from Digital Foundry.

Steve-O: I'm going to have to see some of these.

Steve-O: Ooh.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah. Yeah, without getting into the technical details, let's just say I'm actually quite pleased with my PS5 purchase.

GraceAsscrack: It looked tough. It looked real tough.

ThirstTrapLeon: Because that that thing' that thing's noticeably better on PS5.

Steve-O: You mean the pro?

GraceAsscrack: Well, la-de-freaking-da, Devin.

Steve-O: The pro?

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, I'm sorry. i'm did do Yes, Steve, thank you. The Pro, the the version is like, it's pretty jarring.

GraceAsscrack: Pisser. Pisser 2.

ThirstTrapLeon: Yeah, the pi that PSSR2 doing work, dude.

GraceAsscrack: Pisser 2 came out.

Steve-O: PS, sir.

ThirstTrapLeon: The Pissr2, baby.

Steve-O: All right. We will be back next week.

GraceAsscrack: All right, guys.

Steve-O: And till then, ya.

ThirstTrapLeon: Bye. be