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We Are All Just Prostitutes Under Capitalism with Hype Queen Eden Jackson
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SUMMARY
Welcome to another episode of Dirty Money with Bevin and Mike! In this episode, they are joined by Hype Queen Eden Jackson, a dynamic content creator turned empowerment coach. Eden shares her unconventional journey from selling ass pictures online to coaching women on self-discovery and empowerment. Together, they discuss the importance of questioning societal norms, setting personal boundaries, and the necessity of community and self-awareness in achieving true empowerment.
TOPICS
[1:30] Who is Eden and her Crew?
[11:15] Empowerment Coaching
[24:20] Boundaries
[29:25] Empowerment Coaching
[32:55] Knowing Yourself & Doing the Work
[43:20] Need for Community and Fear of Rejection
[57:30] Eden’s Experience as a Content Creator
[1:05:45] Final Nugget of Wisdom
RESOURCES & LINKS
Connect with Eden Jackson
Instagram: @judy.the.great
TikTok: @chainbreakingenthusiast
Other Resources Mentioned:
CONTACT INFO
Bevin Morgan:
Instagram: @bevinmorgan & @temple_eanna
Website: www.templeeanna.com & BevinMorgan.com
Mike Poulin:
Instagram: @mjpou56
Dirty Money Podcast:
Instagram: @dirtymoney_podcast
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Dirty Money' and Guest Eden Jackson
00:00:10
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Welcome to Dirty Money with Bevin. And Mike. A space to talk about financial topics for folks who don't fit into traditional financial spaces. We believe money is a tool for everyone. Our mission is to provide a literal microphone and platform for queer, BIPOC, polyamorous, and sex-positive individuals. No topic is off the table here.
00:00:31
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That being said, one tiny little housekeeping note. For those listening who may have others with sensitive ears, the listener discretion is advised because we do not censor ourselves. That's right. You've been warned, but enough from us. Let's get this episode started. Welcome back to Dirty Money with Mike and Bevin.
00:01:05
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This is how today's gonna go. I love this already. Yes, she is Bevin. I am Mike. And we are extremely excited.
00:01:17
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to have Eden Jackson on the podcast because this is about to be fun. It's going to be funny. And I think we're going to learn a lot, I think, honestly. So Eden, tell us who you are.
Eden's Empowerment Journey
00:01:28
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What's up? Okay. I'm Eden Jackson. I am a content creator. I've been a content creator for four years now.
00:01:38
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I quit my job four years ago to sell pictures of my ass. And now I am an empowerment coach and I help women figure out who they are, what they want so that they can reclaim their power and live a life full of peace because we've existed in a world where not just women, but people have existed and done what they're supposed to do because it's what they've been told. And at no point in time do they ever stop and say, what? And ask.
00:02:07
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And that shit doesn't work for me. So I'm just like, no, we're gonna, I asked too many questions to just roll with it. And now I have a fantastic community of women that support me. I had no idea would turn to this. So I'm excited to be here and talk to you and share my story. Cause this was not part of the plan at all, but yet here we are.
00:02:30
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I love that. As we talked about before we start recording, I know nothing about you Eden, so I'm very excited to meet you and learn about you.
00:02:43
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already enamored because how you talk about the just in general life of like, fuck the norm. That's how I approach my clients for just finances when they're like, you know, like, I want to have a house and, you know, have kids. And I'm like, OK, but what do you really want out of life? What do you actually want?
00:03:08
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Right, right. So I love this already. I'm here for it. So I'll give you a little bit more. Sorry, go ahead, Beth. I think we're on the same page. So I was actually going to say my introduction to you was Judy's Church of Dead Ass. And I don't even know if you're doing that anymore. So I want to know like, tell me what's going on.
Body Autonomy and Personal Agency
00:03:27
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Okay, so Church of Dead Ass. So Church of Dead Ass is actually my she shed, which is what we're in now.
00:03:35
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three years ago, my husband decided he was going to build a goat barn. And the framing went up and I was like, you're tripping. This is mine. We're not putting goats in here. This is mine. Everybody else in the house has a place I don't. So I have a...
00:03:55
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two stories she should. And for the longest, I was like, I don't really want to talk about it because I want anybody to feel uncomfortable. And then I got to thinking, no, I busted my ass to build this thing. My children built it. They did the shingles and everything in here is secondhand materials. It's either from Marketplace or the auction. Bought a few things from some crackheads because it was a really good deal.
00:04:20
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And so when the framing was going up, there was like this steeple on the front and we couldn't figure out what to call, call this place. And I was like, it kind of looks like a church just from the outside when you approach it. And then I was like, we're going to call it the church. And then I was like, we're going to call a church a dead ass because dead ass paid for this. So that's where we got the name for it. So with that being said,
00:04:49
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It doesn't matter what you do. Take your body and do with it. As I say, that is prostitution. Whether you're a teacher, a doctor, a banker, a lawyer, a coach, you're mowing yards. Do as I say with your body and in exchange, I will give you some money. That's prostitution. Don't care how you want to say it. And if anybody's going to pimp me out, it's going to be me.
00:05:14
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So, Church of Dad asks, now with that being said, I now have goats.
Community Lifestyle and Diverse Background
00:05:20
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I have three goats. Their names are Stephen R. Kelly, Betty White, and Chansey. I have two guineas. My daughter calls them lawnmower birds. They make really weird noises as thing one and thing two. I have two dogs, Ping Ping and Ling Ling. Seven chickens. I have two old people. Four or five children.
00:05:43
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to have two old people, plus I have my honey. That was my turkey. And I think that summarizes all of my crew.
00:05:53
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Um, where, where are you? So I live, I live, I tech, I don't technically live in the city. I live right outside the county line. So we're then we're in the unincorporated area. So hence the animals. My husband started telling people, we ran a rescue farm, which at first I was like, why are you telling people that? And then we started getting all of these animals that weren't really being taken care of to their
00:06:22
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to what I felt was their best. So a few months ago, we go to pick up some new chickens because this raccoon had a heyday with all of mine. So we were down. So I was like, all right, let's go get some new ones. And I show up and this guy has all of these turkeys in a cage.
00:06:39
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they've been there for a year and they were selling them for thanksgiving and and i get it don't get me wrong i understand the circle of life and how all of it works however not on my watch so i had to bring two of the turkeys home and i was like come on baby i got you i'm gonna let you live your best life and so they're out there just running a muck living their best life so we just have lowkey an animal farm
00:07:02
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And the rest of the people in a certain people as well and assorted people because man, everybody needs a little love and some, so I have, I have an extra child who is fantastic. He came to me last April. His dad kicked him out and he came to me and I got you boo. Come on. I picked up another child like a week ago. He was here. It's, it's fine.
00:07:27
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It's like a it's like a I don't I don't know if I'm using the term correctly but it's like it you're like a almost like a fun halfway house yeah pretty much for both animals and people so it's funny you say that so I grew up my grandma raised me and
00:07:46
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everybody in my house looked different. My grandma was about four foot Italian lady and all of my aunts were there. There was just people and we had lots of drag queens.
From Content Creation to Empowerment Coaching
00:07:56
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And I did not know that not everybody had drag queens. I thought that was normal. I got all of my fantasticness from drag queens, not from women. It's not where this came from at all.
00:08:14
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This makes so much more sense. The dots are connecting. This is great. I say that because my children, they're lighter than I am. I am Italian, Irish, and according to my 23andMe, I'm Nigerian. My ex-husband is, I don't know, he's white.
00:08:40
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I don't know what his, what he is. Sounds about white, yeah. Anyway, so my children find a Polaroid of my dad and they bring it to me and they said, your dad was black? And I'm like, I've been this color the whole time y'all. They said, does grandma know?
00:08:58
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Yeah, grandma knew, she shored in. She was very aware. He was very aware. So my reason for saying that is, it's not something we talk about. When my kid was in kindergarten, one time some kid asked him, he said, is that your mom? He said, yeah. He said, why is she black? He said, I don't know, she just is. And I was like, good answer, good answer. So I'm just here living in shit. So yes, totally a halfway house.
00:09:27
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Not living, just not living in shit. Living and shit. I just want to make sure. No, that's correct. Living and shit. Right, right, right, right, right, right. So yeah, that's my short backstory. So I, again, a guy I knew for about two years was like, listen, you could make so much money if you sold pictures. And I was like, dude, nobody wants to see this because at the time I was
00:09:54
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300 pounds and my body does not look like the stereotypical body that you see on Instagram. And so I was like, bro, nobody wants to see this. Nobody wants to see this. He said, I'm trying to tell you, people want to see this. And I was like, no. So for about two years, he kept trying to talk me into it. And finally I was like, all right, let's see what happens.
00:10:18
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I can tell you now I had no idea that it would turn into this. Even two weeks ago when I was in New York is when I finally realized how big my assets were. I was sitting next to a girl on the subway and they took a picture of her and I sitting next together and I was like, oh, holy crap. Okay, I guess it is kind of big.
00:10:48
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Oh, I tell people I'm sitting on a goldmine because you can't half ass it. You got to put your whole ass into it. Well, here I am. And that's what she did. That's my story. Okay. So there's so much done. But no, this is great though. So you mentioned you got into content four years ago. As I said, I found you from the church, your online program.
00:11:17
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and now you're doing women's empowerment coaching. So will you please just kind of take us on the journey? Like, what does it all look like? So going into this, what I did not find, okay, so let's go, hey, let's say I want to, I want to go, go ahead. I just, before we get into it, what were you doing before? I did billing for eye doctors.
00:11:47
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I did, okay, yeah, so I did, I've done all kinds of things. So I did billing for eye doctors. I used to drive a taxi, I owned a taxi company out in Western Kansas for three years. Okay, Queen Latifah. I know, and then I worked at the juvenile jail as a corrections officer. I was a legal drug dealer. I worked at the pharmacy for like three years. And then I went to do the billing for eye, I worked for FEMA for a little bit also.
00:12:18
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And the ladies that I worked for at the, for the eye doctors were amazing. I don't think I could be here without them from all the things that they taught me. Like one of the owners, she started her business in her basement as a single mother. And I was like, if you can do it, I can do this. So I was there. And then this was right at the beginning of the pandemic and spring break, they said, Hey, we're closing schools down. And I was just like,
00:12:45
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What the hell? Like I have three children. I have my grandma who's going through cancer stuff. And so when I started, I call it Judy. When I started Judy, so when I introduced Judy to the world, I had made some decent money in the first few months. And I was like, if I can make the same amount of money that I make at this job, and I can make that in my home, I'm done. I'm done.
00:13:15
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I probably could have gone about it a little bit differently maybe with a more strategic plan Because I I had no plan. I was just like I'm out No, I waited seven months before I quit I started very end of December and I my last day working for a company was July 31st So I'm coming up on I'm coming up on four years that I haven't worked I say that because
00:13:43
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that you've been self-employed. I've been self-employed, thank you. Mm-hmm. So, I started this, and what I couldn't, so, that's what I was saying. So let's say, hey, I wanna build a table. You can go online and Google, how do you build a table? Hey, I wanna start a Shopify. You can Google that. How do I do this? You can Google that. What I didn't find is, how do I sell ass pictures?
00:14:09
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Like, how? Like, how do you price it? How long do you record? Should you, there's nothing. So then I finally found something on Reddit and everything I was finding was basically this E-pimping. Oh, here's how you do it. Get all the girls to do this for you. And I was like, no, no. My body, my choice, what I choose to do with it is my decision.
00:14:38
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So I bought a few courses from other people and a lot of it was, it was just, it bothered me the level of which they disrespected these women. And so I was like, no, we're not doing this. So I created my own course based off of my own personal experiences because I thought,
00:15:04
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What i'm not gonna do number one i'm not here to hurt people's feelings i'm not here To make them think that this is something that it's not because that's how you hurt people's feelings And then when you're people's feelings, then they get crazy and I don't have time for crazy shit I got a whole ass life going on. I don't have time to Try to ward off. I just don't have it in me. Nor do I want to
00:15:28
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So, I created my own course. However, in doing so, I found a lot of people were like, oh, let's just start in OnlyFans and it's gonna be easy. No, no, no, no, it's not. Not at all.
00:15:39
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You've literally created a whole business which needs structure. You need the financial backing. You have to have strategy. How are you gonna price it? How are you going to create your products? How are you going to distribute your products? How are you gonna keep track of your clients? What are they like? All of those things were missing. Very much so. Not only that, I made a shit ton of mistakes because I am,
00:16:08
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I'm a very friendly person. I am. And I feel like if you're gonna pay me for something, I'm gonna give you what you asked for. That's what we agreed upon. Well, I didn't realize I was doing the most. So I done gave all my goodies out. Go ahead. Well, I just, it's so funny hearing that because I have just recently started getting into content creation.
00:16:39
Speaker
And I've been wanting to do it for a while. People on Instagram are always like, do you have a Twitter? Do you have an OnlyFans? Blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, no, no. It's too much work. It's too much work. And I want to do that right now. And a lot of changes have been happening in my life. And so I was like, you know what? I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to.
00:17:03
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And Bevan and I have actually talked about strategy in terms of like, so one of the things that I enjoy doing is I have a really nice shower with a nice shower door. And I like, I've also started go-go dancing as well. And that's been a lot of fun. And so I've kind of mixed the two and
00:17:28
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my whole premise outside of just also just snippets of you know fun little clips that I like to do is my
00:17:37
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fans if they tip me at the end of the week whoever has the largest tip I will slide into their DMs and ask them what song they want me to dance to in the shower because I don't want to come up with the song but I just want to do the dancing so slowly building that it's literally been less than a month okay and I've made almost $200 so not mad about it nope
00:18:07
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I actually, when I was, because when you first create the account, it takes that like 48 hours for everything to kind of process with the bank account and all that. I hadn't even uploaded anything. And I woke up one morning, I had four subscribers. I'm like, I just made $20. I don't know, there's nothing, literally nothing. All I did was make a Twitter and say, hey, I have an OnlyFans now and four people from that brand new Twitter.
00:18:36
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We're like, oh my God, yes, I can't wait. These people were waiting, though. They were. And that's the other thing. And so everything that I've done now with both the OnlyFans Twitter and then I also created an Instagram are all under my stage name and keeping that kind of separate. Yes. And so, yeah, it's been really fun.
00:19:04
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Yes. And so it's really interesting to kind of hear your journey with that as someone who is literally like four weeks in to that process. So here's something I will tell you, and it's the one thing I want to tell every single person.
Philosophy on Empowerment and Personal Boundaries
00:19:22
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And this is just in life in general. Decide what you will not do for money and then live your best life. But I can't stress that enough because of the fact that the request will come in for whatever. The things that I've been asked to do have blown my mind. One of my biggest videos I was digging, okay, I freaking bought
00:19:48
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an elephant ear, one of those plant trees, whatever. And I'm trying to bear it, get it, duh. My ground was so freaking hard. And so I'm out there struggling to dig this damn hole. That was one of my biggest videos. And I'm like, do you understand how much I struggled to get this damn elephant ear there in the freaking ground? And people loved it. And I'm just thinking, okay, okay. But I say it again, decide what you want.
00:20:16
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do will not and then the rest is easier because then you're okay. Yep. I'll do that. Yep. I'll do that. But as long as you know, from the jump, no, I'm not, that's not the type of content that I create. That's okay. That's okay. And I can't express that part.
00:20:38
Speaker
This is not what I wanna do. That's okay. You know what? I'll tell you, here at my house, one thing I did not wanna do, my husband ordered 16 tons of sand.
00:20:49
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so that we could put our above ground pool underground. I don't know if you've ever moved a wheelbarrow full of sand, but it's about 200 pounds per wheelbarrow, plus it had rained. So wet sand is even harder. I was so pissed off moving this sand and my daughter was like, mom, we need to hire somebody. I was like, you damn right we do. I'm not doing this. I'm not moving, I'm not doing it. No, it was dumb. I totally can relate to that.
00:21:19
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my ex-husband and I renovated this house that I am still living in. And we gutted the kitchen and we did most of it ourselves. We hired a plumber and electrician because code and all that need to do that. Right.
00:21:37
Speaker
One thing that I had learned through that process, I will pay such good money to have someone do drywall, mudding, sanding. I will never do that again. It was the worst experience of my life. So I totally get you on that. There are things now in my life that I'm like, my time and my energy are worth more than me doing it myself. So, okay.
00:22:05
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So I did actually build this whole building with my husband and everything. We did all that. Love. Drywall. I enjoy it except for, you learn real quick if you do it wrong, all the bullshit that comes with it.
00:22:22
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So yeah, I get you, some things are better left to professionals. And moving sand was it for me. I'll replace the toilets, I'll get dirty, I won't do things above my head because I don't have the upper arm strength. I can't do it, I won't do it, I'll pay a professional.
00:22:45
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I also just love that it literally sounds like your turkey is listening to the conversation and laughing at you. I love this. I love this. I don't know if it's actually being picked up on the mic, but I can hear it. Well, we'll see how post-production goes, but for our listeners, there is a turkey in the background. His name is Tom. His name is Tom and he's looking for a lady.
00:23:11
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Anybody, any, are there any female turkeys listening? Tom is in Kansas. Um, so what I just, I want to kind of bring, I love this because one I've heard know your boundaries because you get started, especially with a business where you're interacting with other people. And I feel like that goes for literally anything. So whether you're selling content, you know,
00:23:37
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and not save for work or if you're like doing coaching or if you're in customer service or you know, anything at all, when you're interacting with other people, folks have a certain amount that they're expecting and you have a certain amount of stuff that you're willing to do and you need to know that upfront. Because we're all just processes. Because they don't know what your boundaries are. I'll be honest with you, boundaries
00:24:03
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And my entire journey is probably the hardest thing I've ever done. Because what boundaries are, it is deciding what I will and will not do. It's not about saying no to anybody else, it's about saying yes to me. And I've just learned from being around so many people, that's the one thing people are lacking, is boundaries. Not only lacking the boundaries, but enforcing them every single time.
00:24:33
Speaker
That is probably the... Because what happens is, for the first time in your life, you have to stand up for yourself. Not just, okay, whatever, we'll just let it go. Oh, whatever, we'll just let it go. We'll just let it go. No, no, no. That's not how this works anymore. Not to sound like a broken record, but it all goes back to both capitalism and the patriarchy, right?
00:24:57
Speaker
You don't have boundaries if you don't enforce them. They can exploit you more. They can make more money.
00:25:06
Speaker
you know, you patriarchy, right, is so a set of people don't have a say in what they want or what they do. And so if you've been conditioned and also patriarchal trauma, I just made that up. But I'll work on it. We've talked about trauma previously on this where it is genetic, like it genetically gets passed down. So especially for women.
00:25:32
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not to be talking as a man, talking about women, but I understand the irony of that. It's not lost on me, but there are things that you're conditioned genetically to not stand up for yourself, right? Or you might feel a certain way because you are standing up for yourself or society
00:25:52
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saying oh if you stand up for yourself or you say what you really want you're being a bitch or whatever you know there's all those those things right so yeah it boundaries are so important because you are being in control and and but society doesn't want us to be in control of ourselves for a myriad of reasons so a few things to say about that number one so I there's this Amish community
00:26:23
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about an hour and a half away. They're so sweet. I love talking to them. I showed up one day in this pink top and pink yoga pants that I got from Fabletics. It was a fantastic outfit. Anyways, I show up, this little boy, I don't think he's ever seen the color pink, and I definitely don't think he's ever seen anybody shaped like me. So he was just like, I don't know what to say. Anyways, so I started asking questions.
00:26:54
Speaker
I want to know more about your community. And long story short is, don't ask me questions. Do as I say, and that's it. That doesn't work for me. That doesn't fly for me.
00:27:05
Speaker
Our society has trained us that you just do as I say and you don't ask any questions because I said so. Let's go back. Part of the reason why certain dictators don't allow their people to learn and educate themselves is because then they start asking questions.
Self-Discovery and Personal Growth
00:27:21
Speaker
Hold up, wait a minute. This doesn't make sense. Part of the reason why people have so much control is because they know something that you don't. They know somebody who knows something that you don't.
00:27:33
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So why would I, not me, but they're thinking, why would I let you in on my little secret? I get to control this. I get to run this. Gatekeep, yeah. I'm not here to gatekeep anything. For what? For what? Well, it's why financial literacy is not taught. If you don't know how to play the system, if you just stay in the system, then they can control you.
00:28:03
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At all, yes, yes. It is because then they don't ask any questions. Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. We'll do. Now you're like, hold on. This doesn't, this doesn't make sense to me. So I question everything. My, I heard a story once these ladies, they're making a pot roast and they go, they cut the ends off the pot roast.
00:28:23
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And then the next door. And then, so finally one day somebody's like, why are we cutting the ends off of this roast? And she said, I don't know. That's just what my mom did. And that's what my mom did. So finally they go back to grandma. Grandma, why are we cutting the ends off this pot roast? You know what she said? Because her oven was too small, they couldn't fit it in. I love this. This whole time you're just doing shit because somebody else did it because they said so. At what point in time are you going to say, this doesn't make sense to me.
00:28:49
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I'd like to understand, but you don't want people to, because when they start asking questions, then you lose control. Well, so I love that story. And I've heard it before and I like, I, it's so great because it speaks directly to my personal ethos, which is what you're saying. Like be curious, like look around, ask questions. Think, think outside of the box, like get weird, get crazy. There are ways to live life as our people on the planet.
00:29:19
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But that brings us, I think, really well to the idea of your empowerment coaching. What does that look like? What does that mean to empower women to be powerful? To provide them with education. That's what it is. It's provide you with the education. So because what I've learned, in order to get to where you're going, you need to know where you are. You have to. And something I've learned
00:29:50
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with, it's called the Enneagram. Basically, you go through, it's 144 questions, you answer them, and then it comes back and it tells you, hey, when you're your greatest, here's how you are. When you're stressed, here's how you are. And when I read it, I was like, yeah, I don't know my life. It did. It very much did. But it was, you need to be very self-aware. Because otherwise, you're making your shit somebody else's shit, and that's hella rude. It's so rude. Own your shit.
00:30:20
Speaker
And then go forward from there. So that's why I, so with my empowerment, I provide the education. So all of the books I've read, I spent a really long time not educating myself. And so this last four years, that's all I've done is educate myself. And I've learned so much, honestly, I've learned so much that it's causing me problems because all the things that I used to do are no longer how we're supposed to act.
00:30:47
Speaker
But you just did because that's what worked. So when you go through and you actually explore yourself and figure out who you are, what you like, what you don't like, then you can better, you have a different energy about yourself.
00:31:08
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contagious to other people. And that's great because I believe emotions are contagious. So you gotta do a very deep dive into who you are so that you don't make anybody else's life shit. I feel like you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't actually know anything about yourself. And so many people are so worried about being critiqued. There's nothing wrong with it. You need to know. I can tell you right now, my followup is trash.
00:31:37
Speaker
It is, but when you got me, you got me 100%. But if I'm not here, girl boo. I think, let me see me text messages I have right now. I don't do phone call. I have 32 text message and 61 missed calls right now. It is what I just- My anxiety, my anxiety is through the roof. Okay, so here's why. It comes from a place of trauma because of the way my life was set up previously.
00:32:02
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It was somebody died, somebody is sick, somebody is this. It's always some bullshit, always. And so now I'm just like, oh God, what now? But that's not actually realistic. That's just a trauma response, which I'm learning to go about it. But no, I can be very honest with you. Yeah, my follow-up is terrible. Sure is. But like I said, when you got me, you got me. But other than that,
00:32:30
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No, like I tell my mother, I don't answer phone calls. You better get ahold of my children or my honey. If you really need me, you know where to find me. And if you don't want my honey's number, you obviously, I don't know what to tell you. So I do wanna touch on something real quick about how, because we, Devon and I have delved into this, but you kind of touched on it with the whole like knowing yourself and like doing the work.
00:32:56
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What does, what, so we've already talked about this on our podcast, but I want to get your kind of like viewpoint on what is, how does someone do the work? Okay. Brain dumps. Because otherwise the thoughts and the ideas, they're just running. They're just going crazy up here. When you put it on paper, okay, now I have it on paper. Now I can, now it's real.
00:33:24
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Okay, cool. I know, like here, I literally have my list right here. Offer setup in BFF and biz. I can go through and I can actually do that. So now it's real. Let me state this. I forgot to mention this. Anything I say is something that I have personally gone through or that I am going through. Somebody much more educated than I am said this.
00:33:53
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trying to repeat it to the best of my knowledge. But there is scientific backing that writing things down creates a different connection with the brain than typing on your phone or typing on a computer. You don't get the same connection and it doesn't, the only thing is make it real. But once you write it down, now we can say, okay, here's all the craziness that's going on.
00:34:20
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I like to determine it like this. Is it a rubber ball or crystal ball? If you drop a rubber ball, it'll bounce. Ain't nothing, it can bounce for a little bit. Nothing, at this point in time, nothing too crucial will happen. If you drop a crystal ball, that bitch is gonna shatter. And now you're gonna have a thousand other problems to deal with. So once it's out of your head and on paper, pick three.
00:34:45
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at least start there. Because otherwise you're just like, oh my God, I got this crazy list. It's going and going, pick three. And then life keeps going. Ain't no thing. It's gonna keep going and the shit's still gonna be there later.
00:35:00
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It is. So, doing the work is getting it out, getting on paper. Smart goals are phenomenal to make these real. And breaking things down into much smaller things. Instead of saying, hey, I need to launch my website. Okay, that sounds great. But have you determined your logo or your offers? Do you have a framework? Do you know your branding? Do you know all of that stuff? Not just, I need to make a website. That's crazy. It's too big. Make it.
00:35:30
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Bite size. Bite size. Yeah. And I think too, so we, the thing that I, to kind of piggyback off that with the whole, like doing the work, especially with, and I'm sure you get into this with your clients is the, like the, how to sit with those, like.
00:35:50
Speaker
Icky feelings or like the things that you think about, but you have a visceral response and it's like, well, why am I having that response? Right. Is that because of society and what it's telling me I should or shouldn't do? Cause I, I, I kind of talked about this about kink where it was like,
00:36:11
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For years, I was ashamed of things that I am into because I have now realized that that's what
00:36:22
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It's, I enjoy it, but I was, you know, kind of conditioned. So it's like sitting with those feelings and unpacking the, what? Okay. I'm feeling this thing. Why am I feeling this thing? Let's try to unpack that. And it may take years. Yes. It may take years to figure out the why, but the doing the work is that is sitting with those. Those like.
00:36:48
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things that don't necessarily feel good, but why don't they feel good? So go ahead, Bevin. Well, I just want to say it's the curiosity, right? So it's like getting curious about what's happening inside as well as what's going on. So let me state this.
00:37:07
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because one of my things is tickle your fancy. That's my favorite thing because what I've learned is what tickles my fancy may not tickle yours and that's okay. Because what you put in your mouth is none of my business, unless you'd like to make it my business and then we can talk. But other than that, it's not my business. It's nobody's business if you want to be for real, which is what kills me when I get into these conversations about
00:37:33
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You know, well, society says it's a man and a woman. That's none of your business. It's, it's their mouth. That has nothing to do with you. I literally shared a tweet today from one of my favorite Polly, like Polly Amherst blogs, um, Polly Phillip blog.
00:37:53
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I'll make sure they're in the show notes. It says, there is literally no reason to be opinionated on Polly Emery unless you or someone you are dating is Polly. If you're one of the vast majority of people who do monogamy instead, you can literally just do that and mind your business. It's mind your own business, which is, let me get to that. I also used to have pigs. Their names were Ms. Vida Boem and Ms. Nogzema Jackson.
00:38:20
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They were named after Wesley Snipes and Patrick Swayze from Too Long Food. Thanks for everything, Julie Newmar. Favorite movie. It's my favorite movie because it is about accepting. It's not your business. Just love people and go about your own. Anyways, my point is I had these pigs
00:38:41
Speaker
They would not let me give them any scratchy scratchies. Man, I was trying, they would not let me love on them. They had just been around pigs for too long, so to actually think that they're gonna let a human, that's crazy. Anyways, but I would have to go outside and clean up their shit.
00:38:59
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And I realized one day, nobody is here to help me clean up this pig
Living Authentically and Reciprocal Relationships
00:39:05
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shit. And pig shit is big. It's like a whole human out there, okay? It's crazy. But nobody is here to help me clean up this pig shit. Nobody else is here to help me do these really hard things in my life. So respectfully, I don't give a fuck about what anybody thinks about my life, because you're not here for the hard stuff.
00:39:24
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You're not here when I have to clean up the mess. You're not here for any of that So for you to think that you can have an opinion about what goes on in my life the audacity of you
00:39:36
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That's, I believe, RuPaul says, if they ain't paying your bills, pay them no mind. Pay me or pay me no mind. Listen, this is business. At the end of the day, I don't care, like I said, doesn't matter what you do, this is business. I do enjoy talking, I love it, it's my thing, it's what I've done since I was a child. Girl, why don't you stop talking? I don't know, I just got something else to say, I don't know.
00:40:07
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But for people to think, let's go back 200 years ago. Let's say you need some eggs, cool. Also something for you. Or you come mow my yard, I'll trade you some chickens. It's ordering, that's how this works. You give, I give. It's a reciprocating relationship. So for anybody to think that they can just come in here and not give, whether that be an emotional asset,
00:40:35
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or a physical asset, whatever it may be. It is a reciprocating money itself, currency, the dollar, whatever you wanna call it. It's just another way to barter. Yeah, there's multiple currencies. Multiple currencies. Yeah. And I would love to say, yes, we're in a community and we're all here to help each other out.
00:40:58
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But this is business at the same time. This is America. I have a fantastic video I just recorded the other day. I heard a guy, it was Brad Pitt talking about, he said it. He said, now pay me my fucking money. And I was like, what is money? Anyways, what, again, we have chocolate cake.
00:41:19
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Vanilla cake, strawberry cake, carrot cake. I've done something strange for a little piece of carrot cake. It was a whole nother story. We have German chocolate cake. We have so many options that you get to like what you like. What tickles your fancy may not tickle theirs, and that is okay. It's okay, but society has made it seem as if it's not. And that's society's business. That ain't got shit to do with me.
00:41:42
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Well, and that's, you bring up that point. It's like, you like what you like, but also it's important to note that society limits people's ability to even try certain flavors of cake. Right. If you think about it, because used to. Right. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like in general, you know, I think the queer community or the polyamorous community have done a really good job of
00:42:08
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You know, they've already kind of faced, this is another, I sent, did I send this video to you this morning, Bevin? The video, the guy talking about, asking about what you're into? Yes.
00:42:22
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Yeah, and it's saying that gay men have better sex than heterosexual men because they ask the questions of what do you like, what are you into? Because we've already come out, heterosexual people typically don't ask those questions because there's fear of rejection when asking questions. And we've already crossed that line, right? We potentially have been, you know,
00:42:52
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rejected from society because of who we are. So we're already past that, we can have the fun stuff. And this kind of comes with the cake where if you've already had that experience of like, well, I don't give a fuck, right, then you can try all the different types of cake, metaphorically speaking, or, or actually. And so I think it all kind of comes down to this
00:43:18
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the fear of rejection, especially from, because our core as a species, we need community. And so the fear of being outcast or removed or that is such a huge driver in a lot of the status quo, I feel like of our society because people are afraid to try things or be honest with themselves about what they like because
00:43:48
Speaker
Oh, I was told that that's bad. And I don't want to be, they may not be able to vocalize that that's what they're actually feeling, but they're feeling that on a kind of subconscious level, so. You're spot on. You are, which is why. So, and that's one of the questions I ask people. Who do you want? And most people will tell me, I have no idea. Let's go into the more, what do you want? You're probably one of the first people in their life to ask them that question.
00:44:18
Speaker
So I am. So this came, and it's the crazy part how this all came about was my mother-in-law was having a get together with her girlfriends. And she said she wanted some, you know, some fruit, just a fruit and cheese and cool. I'm very extra. I acknowledge that. No shame in my game. I personally, I love apples. I'm a huge fan of envy apples. If you've never tried one, you're missing out. They are just,
00:44:46
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Anyways, so I asked her, okay, what kind of apples do you want? She's like, I don't know, I just want an apple. And I was like.
00:44:51
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Girl boo, no. I know. Very different kinds. What kind of apple would you like? Do you like, do you like the more tart? Do you like sweet? Do you like, do you like app? Do you like envy? Do you like gala? Do you like red and delicious? Do you like- Do you like a soft peel? Do you like a little more crunchy peel? Like- Yes. And she said, I don't know. I've never thought about it. Maybe you should. If you're putting something in your mouth, honey, you need to know what you're putting in there. You need to, because-
00:45:21
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I know it sounds so crazy that that's where this started, but it is because I thought, you never put any thought into what you're actually putting in your mouth. Not only your, and I say mouth, but what you're putting into your meat soup. Body. Right. Call it a meat soup. Cause I feel like. I love it. It's your meat soup. But what you put in your meat soup matters because you need this motherfucker until your last day. So fuck around and find out if you want to.
00:45:47
Speaker
Make sure you're enjoying what you're putting in your body. You should. Because life ain't that long. It's serious. Here's the thing though, and I love that you said that because when you were talking about bartering and how we have this reciprocal energy that goes back and forth,
00:46:08
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It really did make me think about the fact that, and this is kind of a me download that happened, but I hope it blesses somebody else, is this idea that like so often we show up to any type of reciprocal exchange and we're like, well, what do you have? What do you want? As opposed to being like, this is what I want and need for my life. This is what I would like.
00:46:34
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for a front view, can we make that happen? Can we find common ground? And I feel like for me, and I'm kind of speaking this over myself right now, is so often I have been like, what crumbs will you give to me, please? As opposed to being like, this is what I want. Yes, so one of the girls I've worked with, and it comes, we're gonna flip it over to sex.
00:47:02
Speaker
Most people don't know what they like. So my first thing is, get in the mirror, and I want you to start at the top. Start at your head, me personally, I love my hair, it's scratched, oh my God, it's my, oh, I love it. I'll just go get my hair washed. Girls, just wash that. Start at the top, and then work your way down. Do I like my shoulders touched? Do I like it here?
00:47:31
Speaker
You know, armpits are one of the top fetishes. Do I like my armpits touch? Do I like the collarbones touch? Let's work our way down. It's not like, hey, let's just hop straight to your hole. Nah, bro. No, no, no, no. Let's back up. What do you like? Do you like when I touch you here? And most people have no idea because they've never even asked that question nor did they try because only in 14 states, sex ed is taught, which is bullshit.
00:47:58
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here's a here's a penis bro boo anyways here's a banana here's how you put a condom on you're done here's what here we did it we did it what the whole conversation's not happening well how do you actually do it well it depends what are we doing
00:48:17
Speaker
How do you do it? What's needed? None of that is being discussed, and it is very important. Well, you're getting into intimacy. So I'm not bringing it up for a reason, because again, when you are, you don't know what you like. You have no idea what you like, because you've never even explored it, because you have just settled for the crumbs that you've been given. Here, go ahead, use me as a master toy device. Here you go.
00:48:47
Speaker
Oh, okay. So I'm sorry. My best friend from college, she's also bisexual. And I just remember this one story she told me where she's like, I just hate where I am just
00:49:05
Speaker
like laying there and the guy is just fucking me and like thinking oh well I'm glad he's having a good time because this is not enjoyable for me and that has just stuck in my head for a very long time of this like yeah it's like what does the other person want what are things that turn you on asking those questions and I do one thing that I've really kind of focused on is also
00:49:34
Speaker
asking yourself for permission to touch your own body is such a weird concept, but it's actually really nice. And like asking yourself how you feel when you touch your body. I personally have found I am very big on touch on someone else touching me, but not only them just touching me, the pressure that they use to touch me.
00:50:04
Speaker
certain pressures feel very good in certain areas. You know those memes of like cats and dogs where it's like their body and it's like, touch here for this and this. Like I need one of those for my body so that I can hand it to sexual partners to be like, here are all the places if you want to. Exactly, exactly. Like, and it, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, we've, I think part of
00:50:31
Speaker
probably the way we've consumed things like porn and things like that is like people just assume we should know how to do things but we don't and it's super important to ask questions it's super important even while you're
00:50:49
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playing, having sex, whatever it may be, to ask, hey, is this okay? Are you feeling good? Is there anything that, you know, like those check-ins are so important. Now I will say the one question, the one question that will instantly turn me off is, are you close?
00:51:12
Speaker
It just pulls me out. It just pulls me out. And I had a partner that that's what their check-in was. Their whole mindset was, I just want to get you off. Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Literally. You'll know. One of my clients, she said,
00:51:43
Speaker
I'm tired of trying to explain how to work an instrument that I don't even know how to use myself. And I thought, girl. So practice. Get in the mirror. And I say that for a reason because you need to see, you need to be there.
00:52:08
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You need to be there. And that way, hey, you know what? I really like it when you touch me here. This one isn't, you know, there's like 12,000 nerve endings between the whole regime area in general, 12,000. And 80% of women do not org climax from penetration alone. 80%. Girl boo.
00:52:33
Speaker
No, that's unacceptable. Because if you're going to do this, you should enjoy it. Because we are not here to just produce babies or to be utilized as a respiratory device. My body, my choice about going to do this, I better damn well enjoy it. This is not the handmaiden's tale, okay? Now, may I say something? Yes, you may. As somebody who has
00:53:00
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been doing the work for a long time has been very aware of sexuality for a long time and like believes strongly along with you Eden. If I'm going to be in this particip, you know, if we're going to do this interactive activity together, I would like to enjoy it too. Like I am all about that. I don't think you're asking too much. I don't think I'm asking too much either. Here's the thing though. I have literally written the erotic scenario that I want
00:53:30
Speaker
like in a fictional lot like word for word like i've written erotica for partners and like ooh read this and they're like oh that turned me on and then they've gone and done the exact opposite of what i wrote on the thing so i'm like if i can write a map to my pleasure and still not get pleased like where is the miscommunication
00:53:53
Speaker
Well, that just means they're the wrong person. I mean... You're just weeding them out. That's all. That's why auditions work. Here's the script. Thank you for your time. I didn't get the part. Yep. Next. I was not asking for an improv. This is not an off-book situation. No. And I think that's another thing that gets brought up. And that's okay. You're not tall enough to ride this ride. That's okay.
00:54:23
Speaker
Next. Right. Listen, we're about to do this again. It comes back to the flavors of cake. Just because you both find each other attractive doesn't mean that you're going to both like the same flavors of cake when you're there making some cake.
Intimacy as a Conversation
00:54:45
Speaker
It's just, so it's actually quite, I mean, I feel like you're miles ahead of most people. If you know what turns you on and you literally can be like, hey, I did this thing. Because, yeah, literally did your homework for you. So if you don't pass the test, it's your own damn fault. Yeah, so I think having that mindset of like,
00:55:15
Speaker
Okay. Well, they're just, this isn't their thing where they don't, they didn't, they didn't get it. So boy buy or girl buy, whatever the case may be. Right. Yeah. Person buy the, I think what's also really interesting. One thing that I struggle with, with kind of the, the when with partners is like, there's this expectation of like,
00:55:42
Speaker
for men with men. It's okay that not every play session ends with both of us orgasming together at the same time. For a long time, I've had a partner where I get so much enjoyment
00:56:08
Speaker
just kind of servicing him. But then there are other times where I'm like, no, I want to. And so it's like, but for so long, I was like, what's wrong with me? Why can't I do this? And it's like, wait, no, I'm actually really enjoying this. And that's OK. And I think that's part of the misconception is climaxing isn't guaranteed nor expected every time.
00:56:39
Speaker
It's not and there's nothing wrong. Nothing wrong with you because you didn't. Right. That's not part of it. And I think that's where the misconception comes in is that you have to come every time. No, you don't. It's just, it's sex, intimacy, whatever. It's just a conversation. It's just a conversation. That's all it is.
00:57:03
Speaker
I was stimulated. I had fun. I made some core memories and I felt good after. I had a great experience. Thank you for sharing your time with me. I appreciate it. That's it. Don't make it more complicated than that. I love that. I love that. All right. Well, so this is a grand departure from what we've been talking about.
00:57:29
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but I did want to before we end our conversation, I get a little bit into what your experience has been in content, Eden, because you mentioned like from the beginning, you kind of just, you learned along the way and you started making money pretty quickly.
Content Creation: Strategy and Authenticity
00:57:46
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And you mentioned that Judy paid for the Shisha that you're sitting in right now. So do you mind just kind of like letting the people know what's
00:57:55
Speaker
potentially possible financially from this world. So wait, wait, wait, sorry. Sorry about that. We had to make a slight pause and I don't know how to work this. So you're back to our question. Okay. So the first month that I set up my OnlyFans, I didn't quite have the understanding about OnlyFans being a passive.
00:58:27
Speaker
Way to create it. I just I didn't understand it because I didn't have the financial Education so I didn't do very well my first month I made four hundred and twenty one dollars February I made one thousand four hundred and forty one jump up to two thousand three thousand four thousand five thousand Averaging about four to five thousand dollars per month That
00:58:57
Speaker
That's not necessarily the average, I think, but about 2,000 is average. I did not go about this in the correct manner. I thought, nope, pay me my money, pay me my money, pay me my money. And I didn't go about it as, well, it's a numbers game. I just thought, I thought of it on an individual basis. Now, knowing it, no, it's a numbers game. The smaller the number that you charge, the more likely they are to
00:59:27
Speaker
purchase your content. Where I messed up was, though, is that, like I had said earlier, I know what you're coming here to get. I want to give you the whole thing. I don't want to go back and forth and tease you, which I've now learned, I don't want to say tease, drip. Dripping your content is the way to go. You don't want to give it all to them right now because then what are they going to come back and do? Exactly. Let me take you through my framework and let me give you, boom, every single thing. Well, you're not
00:59:57
Speaker
Why would you continue to do it if I gave it all to you from the junk? And so that's where I had messed up. It's like when you go to the mall, right? You want to, they have the pretzels and they give you the free samples because they want you to come and buy it. And they always have the free samples. They don't just, you know, so you gotta- Give me the pretzel. Yes. And that's where I messed up from the junk. Now, knowing that, no, no, no, no. Little pieces so that way you can,
01:00:26
Speaker
Continue same you can't go to Walmart. Here's a whole outfit for $4. Nah, bro You need to buy this piece and this piece and this one and this one and this one again I didn't know this going in now. I know this Again I did not go about this in the correct manner
01:00:43
Speaker
average, depending on how you go about it. Because one thing I have learned, people don't buy products and goods. They buy relationship stories and magic. And what I've learned with content creation is people are here for the real thing. They want to know you. They want to see you. They want to interact with you in the real, real aspect that there is. If they wanted to just see some random person, they could just go watch
01:01:11
Speaker
content from other places, but they are here for the real experience. With that being said, the more intimate, the more involved you are with these people, I mean, it has to be reciprocating.
01:01:24
Speaker
It is decent in a passive income. I do have other platforms I would recommend that the... What's the word I'm looking for? The interface plays much nicer in Onlyfans. Onlyfans just happened to be where I started and I have not switched to anything else because again, I am so sick and tired of looking at my ass, I can't even express it to you.
01:01:47
Speaker
If I never had to see it again in my life, oh my God. I do have a question. You bring up a good point of not just posting everything that you have, right? Do you kind of archive things once you get to a certain point so that you can either reintroduce them or you just kind of leave them up on the site?
01:02:13
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I post all, I just post all willy nilly. It's never the same. It keeps it interesting. It keeps it, if people seen the same thing, they'd get bored. So sometimes it's, you know, I'm working out in my yard. Sometimes I'm in my kitchen. Sometimes I'm out here. Sometimes I'm in, it just keep it interesting because people, again, these people are here to see your real life, the real life aspect of it, not the
01:02:44
Speaker
Persona that everyone thinks that they should no no no keep it real. We're not we're not Photo editing things you're gonna keep it very real hey I'd like to see you in your fantastic shower cool dancing to this song because I asked for it and you made it specifically for me that is magic Magic you were thinking of me when you did it you had me in mind holy crap I'm
01:03:10
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As a, as a small business coach, like that's what I tell my clients. It's like you, especially the, the most, the best product isn't the most successful. It's the best marketed product is the most successful and the best marketing evokes an emotion.
01:03:28
Speaker
And so people want that connection. They want that emotion. And so that's, it's the same thing with content is the people that, I mean, you get the, there are just the outliers, right? That do post the same thing, but they're just, um, we call that the gorge wazi. You know, they're just, I stole that from my metamour.
01:03:53
Speaker
I did not come up with that name, but it's just, you know, pretty privilege. There's like a handful of content creators that they could literally, they just, they have a, they're, they're, they're, you know, they're the outliers. They just make a shit ton of money because people just, they're just, they gravitate towards them regardless if their content is good or not. Right. Yep.
01:04:19
Speaker
Because people want to see. Because everyone's subscribing to them. So there are those outliers. But for everybody else who's creating content. And as you found out, you were like, no, I don't want to do this. And yet, here you are. And people enjoy your content of you being you. I feel like Bevan and I have gone on that journey with our podcast to a very similar story where someone
01:04:47
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We both left our old job while I was, I was terminated.
01:04:57
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where people came back and were like, we miss you on the podcast, you should start your own. I was like, ugh, not another white man with a podcast. And they were like, well, you have so much more perspective and things. And I was like, you know what? OK, fine. Yeah, let's dive into this. And it's the same thing with the content, whereas for years, people were telling me, you should do this. You should do that. I don't know. So I feel you on that.
01:05:26
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Enjoy it. I cannot stress that enough. Just enjoy it. So I, I kind of want to ask a follow up question on that. And we've been talking for an hour and five minutes. This is, this is what we're going to do. I feel like Eden, you have so much wisdom and experience and just like passion about what you're doing and what you're teaching to people. So will you please,
01:05:54
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give our listeners like the final nugget of information that they should take away from this conversation.
Self-Fulfillment and Community Support
01:06:02
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And also we're going to have you back in season four. It's just, it's just, you are everything you have been searching for in everybody else. And the sooner you realize that, holy shit.
01:06:24
Speaker
That gives me chills. I spent so much of my life just wanting, I just wanted to be loved. Oh my, that's all I wanted. I just wanted somebody to love me. And so I mistreated my body. I've done things I'm not proud of. I am everything I ever needed. And the sooner you realize that and the sooner you put some fucking respect on your name,
01:06:54
Speaker
Girl boo. Love, love you. And that's why I go back. Let's do the self discovery so you can figure it out. Like as soon as I took that test and it told me all my things, I thought, all right, you're right. You're right. Then you can go forward. You can move forward from there. Growing, learning, overcoming the trauma,
01:07:23
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is so hard. You need a supportive crew. You need a good crew. Because what you can't do as an individual is you can't see all around. You need other eyes, you do. I think the worst and best advice I ever gave myself was, I got this.
01:07:51
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Which I do, I do got this. However, a bitch need help. Girl, I need help. Ain't no shame in it. I have so many people that help me because I'm a lot and I realized how extra I was. Yeah, I can't do this all by myself. I could, but it's gonna take a really long time. And ain't no shame in asking for help.
01:08:19
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Ain't no shame in this idea that people have, oh, well, you can do it all by yourself. You're silly as hell. Nor should you do it by yourself. That's why community is so important. It's not a competition, bro. We would not have survived as a species if we all just tried to do it ourselves. So yeah, for sure.
01:08:43
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Well, I was going to say I'm so glad that we came to church today and that we had this sermon here for this was just an incredible conversation. It was so wonderful to meet you, Eden. I can't wait to have you back.
01:09:06
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because that's just, I mean, the time is speaking for itself where we still have so many things to talk about, but we will be respectful of everybody's time. And yeah, I just, thank you so much for being here.
Engagement and Closing Remarks
01:09:22
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I will add one more thing.
01:09:26
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The most important things in life are not things. It is time. There is no before, there is no after, there's only now and love. That's it.
01:09:40
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Their time is every you cannot get time back you gonna pay one way or another you really don't pay with your currency You're gonna pay with your time There is no way there's no other way to do it and I've wasted so much time No, not doing it anymore So All right, this is my words of wisdom I
01:10:05
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Thank you, we needed that, we needed that, I needed that. So thank you all for your time today. Thank you all, everybody who's watching and listening for being here. And as always, if you have any questions for Eden, if you have any questions for Mike and I, if you have comments, concerns, jump on our Instagram at Dirty Money Underscore Podcasts. Come find us, ask us questions, make comments.
01:10:33
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Slide into our DMs. Slide into our DMs. We are very responsive. And let us know if there's anything that you want to hear from. Let us know what you want to ask Eden when she comes back. All of those things. And until we see you again, goodbye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Love you long time.
01:11:05
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