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Episode 39: The murder of Elyse Pahler image

Episode 39: The murder of Elyse Pahler

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Elyse Pahler was your typical curious teenager that would dabble in marijuana and alcohol. While in a substance abuse program she met Jacob and quickly became friends. She then became friends with Royce and Joseph who she went to school with. The three self professed cult followers of the band Slayer, took it upon themselves to sacrifice a virgin to the devil believing it would make their playing skills turn into professionals. 

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Introduction to 'Miners of Mayhem'

00:00:35
Eden & Briana
What's up, my bitches? Hello, hello. Welcome back to another episode of Miners of Mayhem. We are a true crime podcast that deep dives into minors who commit murder. I am your co-host, Brianna, and with me is my awesome, loving, caring, and beautiful mother, Eden. Hi, hi. Thank you. You're welcome. You make me feel good today. Yes. Well, I have to brag because Last week I ended up in the hospital and the only person I wanted was my mom. And mom showed up. Yeah. I'm feeling better. It was

Brianna's Health Journey

00:01:10
Eden & Briana
the case of pneumonia and the doctor told me quite literally I was full of shit. So that's where a lot of my back pain is coming from. So I just finished my antibiotics. I still kind of got a cough, but overall I'm finally
00:01:29
Eden & Briana
feeling up to par and like not getting winded and your energy better my energy is better um my iron has been low so for the next two months i'm going to be working on trying to get that up otherwise we have to look into iron infusions which i really don't want to do so I've been a good girl and taken my meds. And she made me eat kale, just saying. So I made these. So I went on Pinterest and searched up high iron snacks or meals or whatever. And obviously you get a lot of iron from your greens. So I don't want to eat them plain. Right. So I found this recipe for kale chips and you just
00:02:19
Eden & Briana
put a little oil and you whatever seasoning you want, really. And you bake them and they turn into little chips. And they're not that bad. No, I wish you would have had them when they were like crispy. Don't put them in the Ziploc next time. Yeah. And then I also made from scratch, and spinach, banana, muffins. and It sounds gross, but it's actually really good. I like it. Even my kids liked it. I really liked it. That was isn't good. Not gonna lie. Sounds gross, but eh. No, it was really good. yeah They're off, they're green.

Podcast Updates and Trigger Warnings

00:02:56
Eden & Briana
Yeah. Nothing like looking at a green muffin going, what? Yeah. And my potassium was low too.
00:03:04
Eden & Briana
So that kind of been eating a lot of bananas. Yeah, yeah. Because we don't want that to happen. So true crime news, what you got? No, I'm not there yet. My bad. So as you may have heard, we have a new little intro. And before we decided to do this intro, I put in here just a friendly reminder that we cover cases.
00:03:32
Eden & Briana
And we do not leave out the gory details of the murder. So in the beginning, we would like to give a blanket trigger warning, which our new intro does that. But we do our we do do our best to let you know when it comes, but not always. No, we just kind of tell you. Yeah. So what do you got for true news? Are we there yet? Yes. Mom, mom, mom, mom. Are we there yet? are yeah

Case of New Albany Mother

00:04:00
Eden & Briana
Oh gosh, the days. um For true con news, you're gonna hate this. Lay it on me. I was absolutely sick when I read it. Oh, great. I'm taking you to New Albany, Indiana.
00:04:16
Eden & Briana
where a 28-year-old mother who is sentence who was sentenced to over a decade behind jail bars after authorities saw her harming her own baby on video. In the video, you can see Jessica Mead, quote, wrapping the blanket wrapping the child in layers of ba blankets and duct tape, unquote.
00:04:38
Eden & Briana
EMS told authorities that the child, quote, had aspirated, was pale, and barely breathing, unquote. An officer was told that the child had digested shellfish and was possibly allergic. Deputy prosecutor Kristin Purdue, I hope I said that right, said, quote, it is a terrible tragedy when a parent who is the one person who is supposed to protect their child from hardships of the world is responsible for the abuse." quote For more information on this story, you can find it at truecrimenews.com. and choking um sorry And I believe the child was one years old. Did the child

Advocacy for Child Safety

00:05:30
Eden & Briana
pass? Yes. So she literally
00:05:35
Eden & Briana
You knew the baby had an allergy to shellfish? She was a one-year-old. You're not supposed to give shellfish. Why was... I don't think you're supposed to give shellfish to... Not until they're past a year old. I think peanut butter too, isn't it? Peanut butter and honey. Yeah. And I think like three or four even. I could be wrong. Why the duct tape in the... Why the... Why?
00:06:05
Eden & Briana
I don't know what the shellfish and then wrapped it in blankets and duct tape and let it aspirate girl boy. I believe it was a girl, but I could be wrong. Listen, people.
00:06:21
Eden & Briana
If you don't want your children. I think we said this last episode. We did, and we're going to say it again. If you do not want your children. There are safe haven boxes. Safe haven boxes. There are ah adoption, foster care. Call your local police department. Drop it off at the fire department. It. I said it. He or she. You can be a nunna.
00:06:44
Eden & Briana
Anonymous. Anonymous for the love of God. Or stop harming our future. What is wrong with these people? Even better. Drop it off at the hospital. Exactly. clean Because HIPAA? Yep. Can't release any information. Just, just do better. Yeah. And if you don't want children for the love of Pete, have your uterus taken out. Yep.
00:07:13
Eden & Briana
It's not that difficult to figure out. I don't understand why, in this day and age, we're still having this problem. I want to know. Oh. I just want to know, like. They're so innocent. What? Their brain is thinking. Could it have been postpartum? Who knows? It it didn't say anything about that. No, I'm not going to not postpartum. That's a true thing. But god damn. Yeah.
00:07:39
Eden & Briana
There's help out there. Stop. There's so many people that would give their hind leg, their front leg, their teeth, their look at to have a child. Well look at adoption even. You have to go through so many steps in order to adopt. Adopting is not easy. IVF ain't easy. No. none of the There's people out there willing to give these unwanted children a good home. Stop. you Just stop. Do better. this The children are our future. So just kidding. Do better. I am. I'm i'm hot. My face is hot. I knew you were going to get mad at that. Oh, my face is burning. Even the tips of my ears are frickin' hot. Sorry, guys. God bless it.
00:08:26
Eden & Briana
hack up a lung, sis. Oh, basically. Oh, is that stuff still trying to come out for your pneumonia? Sure. Okay. All right. but yeah I'm gonna try to contain myself. I did my rant, but damn it. I get so, so I know it makes me not want to do, um,
00:08:50
Eden & Briana
uh through congress some of the some of the stories that we tell is awful um i don't think i did november awareness month i thought you did no ah good no you did octo so next week you can do the november awareness good it's already november right now yeah Ha ha. I just forgot. I just thought about it. Good. It's mine. I take it. I'll do it next week,

Introduction to Elise Pollard's Case

00:09:23
Eden & Briana
guys. Okay. What are we doing today? What are we doing today? Well, since you did a satanic panic case, today's episode, we are doing another satanic panic case that took place in the 1990s in Arroyo Grande, California. Arroyo Grande.
00:09:44
Eden & Briana
Does that ring a bell? Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Very close to my hometown. Gosh, dang it. I wasn't coughing at all before this and now I'm like coughing. I know your lungs just went on. I know. Expell.
00:10:02
Eden & Briana
Elise Pollard was born April 24th, 1980 to David and Lisa Ann Pollard. Elise was your typical teenage girl. Elise was raised with strong Christian beliefs and attended church services with her parents every Sunday. She even sang in the church choir. Oh, sorry. She loved hanging out with friends. No, and slow down. Oh, sorry. She said she even sang in the church choir.
00:10:31
Eden & Briana
She loved hanging out with friends. She was described as, quote, oh, vivacacious. Vibacious? Vibacious. Quote, vivacious, a curious teenager with a dramatic flair because she loved to design and sew her own dresses, unquote. Oh, that makes me envious. I wish I could do that. I know. I couldn't sew anything. Well, I can, but it's not going to turn out. Right. hes Elise also enjoyed acting and loved theater. She hoped to become an actress one day when she grew up. Elise was a very curious teenager and in the 1990s, kids of course knew how to use their imagination because there wasn't technology like there is in today's age. I can confirm.
00:11:23
Eden & Briana
because I was a kid in that era too. So like any teenager, she would sneak out at night and do curious things like marijuana and drink alcohol. we Yeah, we all did that. Now this is where this case is controversial. Do these things make Elise a bad person or a bad daughter?
00:11:44
Eden & Briana
Absolutely not. I believe every teenager in this time did the exact same thing. Now maybe if she wasn't getting good grades and didn't participate in sports and all of that,
00:11:58
Eden & Briana
and maybe got in trouble with the law, then maybe my opinion would change a little bit, but she didn't do any of those things. okay She played sports, she got good grades, she put church, singing. So she was just experimenting? Exactly. okay i And

Elise's Teen Years and Associations

00:12:16
Eden & Briana
I've read some sources that
00:12:23
Eden & Briana
I'm not going to name names, but some painted her painted her in a different light, yeah a terrible teenager. that's yeah And I don't believe that. Smoking pot and drinking is a like ah it's it just thing. It's a rite of passage for the love of Pete. Everybody did it. Yeah. mo Well, most, yes.
00:12:43
Eden & Briana
but yeah She attended a Royal Grande High School, and like I said, always had good grades and played sports. On one occasion, before the school day got underway, Elise decided she wanted to smoke a little Mary Jane. But unfortunately, she got busted.
00:13:05
Eden & Briana
as we all do sometimes. Yep. Okay. Elise got suspended from school and her very unhappy parents made her attend a substance abuse program. Oh, which I'm sure her parents just wanted the best for their daughter. And that's why they chose to put her in a program. right It was in this program where she first met Jacob Delashment. Okay.
00:13:33
Eden & Briana
Excuse me. They quickly became friends because basically for their love of weed. She also went to school with Jacob who is 18 and his two other friends Royce Casey 17 and Joyce Fiorella? Six. Is that a girl? Joyce? Joseph. Oh, you said Joyce, I think. Oh, did I? Yeah. I meant to say Joseph. Okay. Fiorella. Okay. I could have heard you around. Sixteen. Okay. Joseph. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
00:14:06
Eden & Briana
My bad. These boys would be known to be rough around the edges. In one resource it said that they even did meth together but I couldn't find anything to confirm it but I thought I would at least mention it. and Okay. um The boys had their own death metal band named Hatred. That's one thing that I never did.
00:14:31
Eden & Briana
um meaning i I experimented with the devil's lettuce. I still enjoy the devil's lettuce on occasion, ye um recreationally, and anxiety. I have high anxiety, but never anything more than that. I was too scared. I think I and think i snorted a painkiller once and it made me puke and I never I would be a terrible drug addict because I can't handle. No, me neither. I want to veg out and watch TV. I don't want to be psyched up yet. No, yeah I've never touched anything other than the devil's lettuce. An alcohol. An alcohol. Speaking of. Which is the devil itself anyway, for some people. Right. It's moderation, people. Moderation.
00:15:23
Eden & Briana
Okay. The boys had their own death metal band named Hatred. The three of them were even self-proof best, quote unquote, cult followers of the metal band Slayer. Good band, good band, good music. If you don't know the band Slayer and their song lyrics are about Satanism, but that doesn't mean they're evil. It's for entertainment.
00:15:51
Eden & Briana
Well, I mean, you can practice Satanism and all of that and not do evil things. Satanism doesn't mean what people think it means. Correct. okay It's like we we follow God. It's the same thing, but you just follow it different. You follow the devil.
00:16:13
Eden & Briana
But you don't really necessarily do evil things. No, I... And like singing about it. satanism Satanism does not... I don't know. I'm not a Satanist. I don't know anything about it. But from what I understand, there's nothing evil about it. I don't... Yeah. Just from what I've read and...
00:16:34
Eden & Briana
I haven't dug into it, and I probably should, since we do cover some of this stuff, I probably should familiar familiarize myself with it. yeah I haven't yet, so I apologize for that. Maybe we should do that one of these days, just kind of figure out. and So we know when this stuff comes up, and people talk about Satanism, maybe we have more information.

Premeditated Crime Against Elise

00:16:54
Eden & Briana
yeah But it's not what people perceive it to be. Right. But this was the satanic panic, and everything was like, bah. Yep.
00:17:03
Eden & Briana
So out of the three, Joseph was the one who was most obsessed with the band. He would study song lyrics, quote, as if they held deep meaning, unquote. Oh boy. Joseph even admitted that quote, the music started to influence the way he looked at things, unquote. Okay. So one of the Slayer song lyrics And i I didn't write the name of the song. That's my dad says, quote, I feel the urge, the growing need to fuck the simple corpse, unquote. OK. So. And that could have several different meanings. It's just words. It's just words. It's not a command. It's not direction. It's not. It's not something Slayer goes out and does. Right. It's just entertainment.
00:17:58
Eden & Briana
It's just words. They put on a persona. Yeah. Whatever brings in the bucks, and the crowd, and the chart. Well, at this point, I don't even think they allowed Slayer on radio. Oh, really? Mm-mm. Wow. OK. But they were still able to reach out to millions of people. Sure. Well, they were a good rock band, a heavy metal band, or whatever they were backing. Yeah. OK.
00:18:31
Eden & Briana
Joseph would later ask Jacob if he would be interested in sacrificing a virgin to please Satan and they believed it would enhance their death metal plane. And this is where the shit hit the fucking fan. Yes. Okay.
00:18:48
Eden & Briana
At the time, Jacob didn't really think anything of this question. Later, during a different conversation, Josh told Jacob that Elise Pauler would be the perfect virgin to sacrifice. It even stated that Joseph picked Elise because, quote, he was ah obsessed with her and obsessed with killing her, unquote. Oh boy. Then the boys would take months to plan her murder.
00:19:16
Eden & Briana
Oh, premeditation.

Details of Elise's Murder

00:19:20
Eden & Briana
On July 22nd, 1995, Elise gets a call from her friends, Jacob and Royce, asking her if she wanted to go hang out and smoke some weed at the Eucalyptus Grove called Nipomo messa Mesa. Mesa. napomo Mesa. Mesa. Nipomo Mesa. Didn't I? Oh, you have. That was literally my question. Mom, did you ever go to this girl board for the Eucalyptus Grove? Yes. Well, I've taken you to California. Yeah.
00:19:49
Eden & Briana
Did I take you to see any eucalypt the smell of eucalyptus? I know, that's what I said. Amazing. I would love to go just to be surrounded by the smell of eucalyptus because I absolutely love it. It's amazing. And then there's an Napomo Beach. I think you only took me to different tidal waves, or tidal pools, I'm sorry. Yeah, tidal pools. Where where did I take you? More open.
00:20:17
Eden & Briana
Because we went to feed the seals and yeah, that was in Morro Bay. But we took I took you walking through the eucalyptus. There was a trail. Yeah, I did. Or I've got a picture of me and Ty walking and Eli walking through the eucalyptus.
00:20:33
Eden & Briana
I'm gonna have to think about that. I'll pull up some pictures later and I'll have to think about that one. Yeah. Anyways, Well, Lisa's parents told her she couldn't go because of her track record, and I'm sure they wanted to keep those reins kind of tight.
00:20:51
Eden & Briana
oh
00:20:53
Eden & Briana
Can I interrupt? Yeah. You know what happens when you keep the reins tight? I'm referring to like you know horses. You rebel even more. You rebel even more. You start throwing your head and trying to get that bit out of your mouth. Just saying. Yeah.
00:21:08
Eden & Briana
Well, Elise eventually went against her parents answer and snuck out to hang out with them. She was fighting the bit and fighting the reins. Okay. I got, yep, I hear you. But that decision will be fatal. Oh shit. So once they all got to the Grove, they all smoked.
00:21:26
Eden & Briana
the marijuana and once Elise started feeling the relaxation from the weed, Jacob takes off his belt and immediately puts it around Elise's neck and starts strangling. Oh hell no. Royce then takes Elise to the ground and takes out his hunting knife he brought with and stabs her in the neck.
00:21:52
Eden & Briana
Okay. The three boys would take turns stabbing her in the neck and in the back. Okay. So at this point, Elise is just trying to stay alive. Right. She is laying on the ground moaning in excruciating pain, begging for God, and calling out for her mom. Oh!
00:22:13
Eden & Briana
Royce at this time decides to literally stomp on her neck over and over no no several times. No, check me out. So I cannot imagine what Denise is feeling and thinking at this point and it breaks my heart. The sense of like panic she must be feeling because she was friends with these guys.
00:22:38
Eden & Briana
And the portrayal, I mean, absolutely horrible. The calling out for her mom is really tugging my heart. Yes. Elise was stabbed a total of 12 times. When the autopsy was performed, those 12 stab wounds were not fatal. What? They were not fatal. Okay. These three fuckheads literally stood there Watching her slowly bleed to death. You've got to be shitting me. Nope. Nope. So at any given point, they could have gotten her help, but they chose to stand there and watch. Wow. Okay. Wow. If they would have called for help, she probably could have survived. But nope.
00:23:34
Eden & Briana
No. Nope, I'm done. We're done here. No, we're not. We're done here. So now that the boys knew that Elise was dead, Jacob started to pull her pants off since they had talked about having sex with her dead corpse. That was their initial plan from the get-go. From the very start, that's what their plan was. But Royce started having second thoughts.
00:24:01
Eden & Briana
Oh, not second thoughts on the murder, but has second thoughts on having sex with her corpse. Make it make sense. I can't. I got nothing. I got nothing. Yeah. Okay.
00:24:20
Eden & Briana
i I... Yeah. So, the boys decide to bury her in a shallow grave and left the scene. Once Elisa's parents realize that she isn't home, they immediately call the police and report her missing. Okay. Now we see this in a lot of cases. The police pretty much assumed she was a runaway teenager because why? She was a troubled teenager. But she wasn't a troubled fucking teenager. She was in rehab. She was smoking weed. She was... Oh yeah, because all of that just makes her a troubled teen.
00:24:59
Eden & Briana
Not the good grades, not the playing the sports, not going to church, singing in the choir. Exactly.

Murder Trial and External Influences

00:25:04
Eden & Briana
Fucking idiots. Okay. Elise was missing for a long, dreadful eight months. Oh hell no. During this eight months, Royce actually had a change of religious views and confessed where Elise's body could be found.
00:25:25
Eden & Briana
When police discovered her body, it was already in an advanced stage of decomposition. Royce confessed that he believed that Joshua and Jacob would kill again and might even kill him. All three boys were arrested and pleaded no contest when they were confronted with their charges.
00:25:46
Eden & Briana
During the trial, Royce's confession was read and it revealed as to why they chose Elise. They thought she was the ah epitome of purity and innocence. Of course she was. All three were charged with seven counts, including murder, conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit rape, and kidnapping. Wait a minute. Did somebody rape her dead body?
00:26:16
Eden & Briana
I think so. I do believe so. Okay. Cause you got rape in there. I just, I just didn't know if I was a commuter. Well, authorities initially tried to get torture and rape, but officials were unable to determine if she was sexually assaulted due to a stage of decomposition. Okay. But I, I think they did.
00:26:46
Eden & Briana
a
00:26:48
Eden & Briana
lost my play and its over and In court documents, the murder was described as, quote, one of the most brutal and horrific murders in the history of San Luis Obispo County, unquote. Oh, my born place, okay. When asked why they committed the murder, Casey, Royce Casey, said, quote, by making this perfect sacrifice to the devil, they would gain more craziness that would make them play harder and faster, and by making this perfect sacrifice to the devil,
00:27:21
Eden & Briana
It would help them go professional." unquote are you are Did you say that? did Did I just hear what I think you said? I said it. So they think that because they sacrificed this beautiful, innocent, good girl, that they're going to be able to play better in their band? I don't know what they're smoking, but it ain't the devil's lettuce. That is the stupidest,
00:27:50
Eden & Briana
moronic thing I have ever heard in my entire fucking life. Sorry, Brad. Yep. Wow. They were all sentenced to 25 to 26 years in prison. In 2000, Elise's parents attempted to sue the band Sawyer, claiming that the music encouraged the boys to kill their daughter, but the lawsuit was dismissed. Good.
00:28:15
Eden & Briana
They tried a second lawsuit claiming Slayer, quote, knowingly distributed harmful material to minors, but was also dismissed. Good. Oh, I meant to say unquote after minors. That's good. But that was also dismissed. Judge E. Jeffrey Burke said, quote, I do not consider Slayer's music obscene, indecent, or harmful to minors, unquote.
00:28:40
Eden & Briana
In a Washington Post interview, Jacob said, quote, the music is destructive, but that's not why Elise was murdered. She was murdered because Joshua was obsessed with her and killing her.

Parole and Societal Reflections

00:28:54
Eden & Briana
Now, Royce Casey was denied parole.
00:28:59
Eden & Briana
in July 2021. Oh, thank God. However, a Superior Court judge in June 2022 overturned the decision and granted parole to Casey, Royce Casey, which was reversed by the California Court of Appeal. So is he in jail or is he not? He is. Oh, thank God. Joseph Fiorella had a parole hearing scheduled for July 2023 after voluntary voluntarily waving his right to a hearing for one year. And Jacob Delashmuth has a parole hearing scheduled for December 2024. That's coming up.
00:29:46
Eden & Briana
you Royce Casey is imprisoned in Valley State Prison, Joseph Fiorella in High Desert State Prison, and Jacob Delashma in Correctional Training Facility. I don't like you. I love you, but I don't like you right now. I'm sorry. Blaming, you know, blaming a band for their music. I mean, I know these parents are just devastated.
00:30:17
Eden & Briana
I get that. But a lot of people listen to that music. And a lot of people don't do what these freaking pond scum little butt wipes decided to do. Yeah. It's crazy. I understand, like, ah Elisa's parents are... They're heartbroken for the love of God. Devastated. Yes. And even though it wasn't until eight months later that they got justice. They also, it's like they didn't get closure enough. Right. So they went after the band as well. I could understand it. I see. I understand why.
00:31:06
Eden & Briana
I couldn't imagine losing a child. I couldn't imagine losing you. Yeah. Especially the way that she right but I but like I said I listen to that music when I was younger yeah I mean I didn't we have do what they did I listen to crazy music now sometimes we have Slayer in our rock music playlist yeah it doesn't mean we're gonna go on sacrifice somebody nope unless you think it'll help my golf game joke joking
00:31:42
Eden & Briana
joking Oh, for the I don't like you. I love you. But like I said, I don't like you right now. is It was a tough one. That is sickening. Just sickening. And I don't like that people just because I don't like that they wanted to label her as a troubled teen. The police? Yeah, that pisses me off. Yep.
00:32:12
Eden & Briana
that People, kids experiment. They want to see what's out there. They want to they want to know. It doesn't make them bad. I've known sheltered kids. And once they are off to college, oh boy they are wild. They are wild and feral. Oh, yeah. fair I know exactly one of your classmates that was sheltered the whole frickin' time you were growing up.
00:32:43
Eden & Briana
And when she got loose, holy shite. Yeah. the the Yeah. She unwashed. But you got to experience it. It makes you realize it's curiosity.
00:33:03
Eden & Briana
um I experienced a lot of shit and I was like, Oh, I don't like that. That's not for me. That ain't for me. And and you won't know if something's for you or not until you dip your toe in there.

Conclusion and Audience Engagement

00:33:18
Eden & Briana
Well,
00:33:19
Eden & Briana
ah lee well that is the end of this today's episode. I don't like you. um If you have questions, comments, case recommendations,
00:33:33
Eden & Briana
nicely put constructive criticism. um You can shoot us an email at minersofmayhem at gmail dot.com. You can shoot us a Facebook message. Just go in your search engine on Facebook and type miners of mayhem will pop up and hit that follow button. do it um We're still not quite up to par with the video yet. It's something that we're still working on.
00:34:03
Eden & Briana
Um, yeah. If you ever just want a bullshit, we would love to hear it. For the love of God, if there's anybody out there that don't want their children, message us. We will send you help. Yes. Don't be fricking hurting your children. Yes. Good Um, that true crime news has still got me too. I know it. That's just tugging man.
00:34:32
Eden & Briana
As always, if you see something, say something. Take care of your mental health. If you need help, if you just want somebody to vent to or advice, we're here, we're open to it. We're not professionals, but by God, we'll get you in the right direction. You're not alone. Exactly. If you just need a hug, I would love to give you a hug, because I love hugs. I wouldn't hug you today right now. I don't like you.
00:35:03
Eden & Briana
This case sucks. I know it. You're so hateful.
00:35:09
Eden & Briana
You've done me dirty too, woman. I'm gonna do you really dirty. Fuck. Shit. Sorry. Brad. Oh, I'm gonna do you so dirty you're probably gonna vomit. Not the next one, but the one in, let's see, it's me next week and then it's you. So it'll be three weeks before I put that one out. Oh boy. You're going to vomit. Okay. Yep. Just saying, keep your happy ass and safe out there.
00:35:37
Eden & Briana
Bye.