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Episode 51: Shirley Wolf and Cindy Collier PT 2
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Part 2 we discuss the outcome of these two broken girls
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Transcript
Remote Recording Due to Illness
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Briana
What's up you lovely bitches?
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Eden & Briana
Hi guys.
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Briana
Uh oh.
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Eden & Briana
You can't hear me?
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Briana
Oh yes I can.
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Briana
Yeah, I can.
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Eden & Briana
Okay, you scared me.
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Briana
You like cut off for a second and I was like, whoa!
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Eden & Briana
Oh, okay. How you feeling?
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Briana
Well, you guys haven't noticed, we are doing remote because I still feel like shit.
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Eden & Briana
And I'm not catching it.
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Briana
Mom's not catching it. And I just hope it goes away before Saturday.
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Eden & Briana
Oh, that's right. You fly out, huh?
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Briana
Yeah.
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Eden & Briana
Oh, duh.
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Briana
yeah
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Briana
So, apologies for coughing in advance.
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Eden & Briana
You sound terrible.
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Briana
I feel terrible.
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Eden & Briana
Can you hear me okay now?
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Briana
Yeah.
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Eden & Briana
Okay, good. All right, Let's
Florida Man's Jewelry Heist
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Briana
Let's just get to the gritty so I can take some NyQuil and go to bed.
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Eden & Briana
it.
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Eden & Briana
but but
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Eden & Briana
Okay, let's do it. We're going to do true crime news. Ready?
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Briana
Ready.
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Eden & Briana
A 32-year-old Florida man swallows nearly $1 million dollars in jewelry while getting arrested for allegedly stealing it.
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Eden & Briana
So for more information on this and other true crime news, you can go to truecrimenews.com.
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Briana
I will not be looking into that story.
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Eden & Briana
Mm-hmm.
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Briana
a million dollars worth of jewelry. How long do you think that would have taken him?
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Eden & Briana
Well, I guess it depends upon where he was shopping. I think it said he was shopping Tiffany's, so I'm assuming probably not very long.
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Briana
Probably like 10 pieces, maybe 20 pieces.
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Eden & Briana
I don't know. But...
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Briana
I don't know how expensive Tiffany is, but that's,
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Eden & Briana
But why? Just why?
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Eden & Briana
i have another update.
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Briana
I'm assuming he's got to go to the hospital.
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Eden & Briana
I'm assuming that the they're going to follow him around with... Yep. Not even... Oh, God. Yeah, we're not going to talk about that.
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Eden & Briana
It will come out.
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Briana
or the other.
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Eden & Briana
It'll come out.
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Briana
Either through the mouth, the butthole, or surgery.
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Eden & Briana
Yeah, it's coming out.
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Briana
wonder if... ah You know, no matter the amount of cleaning they have done to those, I bet they're, bet they got, ah what's the word depreciated?
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Eden & Briana
Depreciation?
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Briana
Yeah.
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Eden & Briana
Yeah, they depreciated instantly. He put them in his mouth, I bet.
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Briana
Oh yeah.
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Eden & Briana
yeah
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Briana
wonder if they're going try to like resell them.
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Eden & Briana
I wouldn't want to know and I'm glad there's not one near me. I'm not going shopping there.
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Briana
Okay.
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Eden & Briana
oh Yeah. Okay, so I have another update.
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Briana
ah and
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Eden & Briana
I have another Timothy Hochschultz update. So after the setback from last week, his trial has actually been rescheduled to begin on October 1st.
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Eden & Briana
So we have another trial date. So I won't have nothing for you until sometime in October as far as that case goes.
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Briana
okay
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Eden & Briana
I feel like I'm yelling.
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Eden & Briana
well. well
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Briana
Oh, well.
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Eden & Briana
Okay, since you're so miserable, I'm just gonna jump right in.
Cindy Collier & Shirley Wolf's Escape Plan
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Eden & Briana
This is the part two of our Cindy Collier and Shirley Wolf case. um A quick recap.
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Eden & Briana
Last week, we touched base on the lives of Cindy and Shirley. They both came from very dysfunctional home lives where they were mentally, physically, and sexually abused, leading to some pretty severe behavioral issues. in And both girls, it was landing them in and out of foster homes.
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Eden & Briana
And ultimately, they met in a group home and they were instantly drawn together. Okay. Okay.
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Briana
disaster duo, if you must
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Eden & Briana
if you must. So within hours of meeting one another, the girls started talking about escaping.
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Eden & Briana
Their plan consisted of stealing a car and some money and going on the run in search of a better life. They came to the decision that an elderly person would be the wisest choice to target.
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Eden & Briana
I gotta lock that. Okay. um Because they wouldn't be able to fight back.
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Briana
Wow. Wow.
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Eden & Briana
Okay, well, this plan takes a really sinister turn when Cindy states, quote, we'll have to kill her so that she can't rat us out to the cops, unquote.
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Eden & Briana
To which Shirley agreed.
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Briana
wow
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Eden & Briana
Cindy went on to claim that she knew the perfect place to find their victim. was a condominium complex complex where she once lived with her parents, where she knew the majority of the occupants were elderly and lived alone.
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Eden & Briana
So the girls dyed their hair in a feeble attempt to disguise their identity. And on June 14th, 1983, the girls made their escape and hitchhiked their way to the Auburn Green Condominium Complex.
Murder of Anna Brackett
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Eden & Briana
Are you following?
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Briana
Yeah.
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Eden & Briana
The two girls knocked on several doors asking for directions for a glass of water or to use the phone. But some of the residents had an uneasy feeling and did not let the girls into their homes.
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Eden & Briana
Now, when one woman answered the door, she went to get the girls a glass of water, but they spotted her husband sitting on the couch. So they left.
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Eden & Briana
You okay?
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Briana
No.
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Eden & Briana
Oh, you poor thing.
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Eden & Briana
So just a little before 5 PM, the girls knocked on the door of 85 year old Anna Brackett, a kind sweet lady who would never refuse to help two young girls in need.
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Eden & Briana
The girls, yep.
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Briana
That shit pisses me off. To get advantage of elderly.
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Eden & Briana
a The girls asked for a glass of water and to use the phone. And of course, Anna being the type of woman that she was, Anna invited both the girls in.
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Eden & Briana
Cindy immediately took in her surroundings, making sure no one else aside from Anna was in the home. And Anna showed Cindy to the phone and gestured Shirley to have a seat. She fixed the girls a glass of ice water. And as Cindy returned, saying there was no answer and she would try again in a little bit, so Anna invited Cindy to sit down also.
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Eden & Briana
The girls inquired if she lived alone, so Anna explained that her husband, which he really wasn't her husband, but she referred to him as her husband, was in the hospital with cancer.
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Eden & Briana
Anna and the two girls visited for about an hour. do you need to cough?
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Briana
No.
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Eden & Briana
Okay. Anna told them about some of her travels and her adventures. She talked about her family, her grandchildren, and her great-grandchildren.
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Eden & Briana
So she spent almost an hour visiting and getting to know these girls. I forgot to mute my phone. Sorry. Sorry. um
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Briana
We don't have our ducks in a row at all.
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Eden & Briana
We do not.
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Briana
That's OK.
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Eden & Briana
um So the ring of the telephone interrupted their conversation and Anna excused herself to answer the phone. She explained to the girls that the phone call was from her son, Carl.
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Eden & Briana
and he and his wife were going to be on their way to pick her up to go play bingo. Cindy stood up asking how long it would be until they got there, and which Anna said about 20 minutes.
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Eden & Briana
Cindy turned to Shirley and said, quote, it's time, unquote. Shirley looked at Cindy with a blank look on her face. Quote, it's time to do it now. We do it now.
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Eden & Briana
Don't just sit there staring at me. Do it, unquote. In an instant, Shirley was off of her chair and standing by Anna. Shirley grabbed her around the neck, cutting off Anna's air.
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Eden & Briana
Anna tried to fight back, but she was no match for Shirley. Shirley got Anna down and pushed her face into the floor and one knee in her back. Quote, I'm going to kill you, unquote.
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Eden & Briana
Shirley kept repeating. Cindy ran into the kitchen and grabbed a paring knife and tossed it to Shirley. Shirley brought the knife down into Anna's back. Anna's scream was muffled by the chokehold that Shirley had her in.
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Eden & Briana
Anna fought back and she managed to knock Shirley off balance, forcing her to let loose of Anna and Anna managed to get to her knees when Cindy hit the left side of her head several times with a hard object.
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Eden & Briana
When Anna fell back to the floor, Shirley pinned her again and resumed stabbing and slashing Anna in a frenzy and bent the paring knife. Cindy ran to the kitchen and returned with a butcher knife and Shirley resumed her attack on Anna.
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Eden & Briana
In almost a whisper, Anna stated, quote, I'm dying, unquote.
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Briana
Mm-mm.
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Eden & Briana
Quote, good, unquote, Shirley said. Shirley believed Anna was dead because there was blood coming from her mouth and nose, but Cindy wasn't so sure, so she took the knife and slashed Anna a couple of more times.
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Eden & Briana
When they were certain Anna was dead, they ransacked the house, stealing a set of keys and a wallet. They headed for Anna's car. However, they were unable to get the car started.
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Eden & Briana
None of the keys would work. Afraid Carl would be there soon, they abandoned the car and headed to the highway on foot. The girls hitchhiked their way to Roseville. I have to cough, excuse me.
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Eden & Briana
Any questions, Bree?
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Briana
No.
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Eden & Briana
No? Okay, they hitchhiked their way to Roseville. And as they were driving, Shirley put pulled out her diary and wrote, what would be her final entry?
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Eden & Briana
Quote, today, Cindy and I ran away and killed an old lady. It was lots of fun. Unquote.
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Eden & Briana
Not really knowing what to do since they were unable to get Anna's car, the girls decided to hitchhike back to Cindy's house and figure it out in the morning.
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Eden & Briana
When they got to Cindy's house, the girls hung out waiting for the news to come on to see if there was anything about the murder. And in fact, the murder did make the news and also that authorities were looking for two teenage girls in connection with the killing.
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Eden & Briana
The girls knew they had to have a plan. As they were thinking about what to do next, they fell asleep, exhausted from the day's events. Now.
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Briana
Are you kidding me?
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Eden & Briana
Nope.
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Briana
Okay.
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Briana
If you look at photos of Cindy and Shirley, Shirley is not little. She looks like...
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Eden & Briana
That's Cindy.
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Briana
Oh, it's...
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Eden & Briana
Surely it's a little one.
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Briana
Oh, okay. I got it mixed up then.
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Eden & Briana
Yep. Cindy's the larger of the two girls.
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Briana
And Shirley took on Anna.
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Eden & Briana
She was known to hold her own also.
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Briana
Wow.
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Eden & Briana
Yep.
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Briana
And just think that her son just called.
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Briana
Time can change or like life can change so freaking fast.
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Eden & Briana
Yep.
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Briana
Literally just talked to his mom 20 minutes ago. I'll be there in 20 minutes to pick you up for bingo.
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Eden & Briana
Yep.
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Briana
And I'm assuming was the son the one that found her dead?
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Eden & Briana
I'm gonna get there.
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Briana
Okay.
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Briana
Ugh, the devastation. I just talked to her 20 minutes ago.
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Eden & Briana
I couldn't imagine. Could not imagine.
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Briana
And to go to bingo!
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Eden & Briana
Yep. So I'll get into it.
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Eden & Briana
So like you just said, as you know, Carl was on his way to pick Anna up. When Carl arrived, he rang the doorbell, but his mother didn't come to the door.
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Eden & Briana
Concerned, Carl looked through the front window where he could see his mom laying in a pool of blood. Carl ran to the neighbors and asked them to call an ambulance. and then he went and broke a window so he could get into the home, finding his mother laying on the living room floor well beyond the need for any life-saving measures.
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Briana
Mm-hmm.
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Eden & Briana
Investigators questioned neighbors where they learned from several that two teenage girls had been knocking on doors. One neighbor reported seeing two girls running from Anna's house not too long before Anna's body was discovered.
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Eden & Briana
Now, investigators had several tips come in, many of which identified 14-year-old Shirley Wolfe and 15-year-old Cindy Collier. Because now remember, Cindy had lived at that complex with her parents.
Arrest of Cindy & Shirley
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Briana
yep
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Eden & Briana
Yeah.
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Briana
Yep. has been seen by multiple pairs of eyes.
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Eden & Briana
Mm-hmm.
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Briana
Like, how dumb can you be?
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Eden & Briana
Right?
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Briana
Which I'm glad they're that dumb.
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Eden & Briana
Right. Right.
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Briana
it's like It's like that meme on, I think it's Facebook. I've come across it a couple times where it's like me watching true crime documentary And they left a piece of hair behind or one strand of hair.
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Briana
And then me sitting there with my bowl of cereal, fucking idiot.
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Eden & Briana
Yep. Oh, geez.
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Briana
Post that to our Facebook.
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Eden & Briana
Yeah, we need to post that to the Facebook for sure. So and at about 2.30 in the morning, investigators knocked on the door of the Collier home.
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Eden & Briana
The girls were found fast asleep. They were woke up, separated and interviewed. While Cindy was denying, Shirley was confessing.
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Eden & Briana
When confronted with Shirley's taped confession, Cindy started to laugh stating, quote, to honestly tell you the truth, we didn't feel any badness.
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Eden & Briana
Then after we did it, we just wanted to do another one. We just wanted to kill someone just for fun, unquote. Anna's autopsy report showed defensive wounds, evidence of strangulation, blunt force trauma, and 28 stab wounds. However,
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Eden & Briana
This number could be higher because there is a possibility that the same wound was stabbed more than one time. You know, it had the same entry point.
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Briana
What?
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Eden & Briana
Carl Brackett and a son said, quote, there's a scene in the movie Psycho equivalent to what happened to my mother. I never could have imagined that two teenage girls could have done it, unquote.
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Eden & Briana
Now, regardless of the brutality of this murder, Cindy and Shirley, under California law at that time, would be tried as juveniles. Yep.
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Eden & Briana
That was the law back then. Now, remember, this was back in 1983.
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Briana
Yeah, but you did.
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Eden & Briana
and don't think I recapped that. Yep. So...
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Briana
But damn.
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Eden & Briana
Yep. So Cindy pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and burglary. Shirley, however... Pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.
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Briana
Reason I was standing.
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Eden & Briana
She underwent a psychiatric evaluation, and after hearing three days of psychiatric testimony, the judge ruled Shirley as legally sane at the time of the crime, referring to Shirley as a, quote, cold-blooded killer, unquote.
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Eden & Briana
Shirley and Cindy showed very little emotion in Placer County Juvenile Court. A non-jury verdict was reached within 15 minutes by the judge.
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Eden & Briana
They were both sentenced to the California Youth Authority facility until they reached the age of 25. Mm-hmm.
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Briana
What a joke. So they served 10 years? That was it?
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Eden & Briana
Yep.
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Briana
They were out?
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Eden & Briana
Yep. So, well, I'll go on.
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Eden & Briana
After studying law in prison, Cindy was paroled in 1992. She married, had four children, and has been living a quiet life.
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Eden & Briana
Shirley was paroled in 1995. She continued to have trouble with the law for a time, but has since been living in solitary a solitary life in the Midwest and is working to help victims of child abuse overcome their demons.
Trial and Sentencing as Juveniles
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Eden & Briana
Before we go into questions, my resources for this episode included Little Girl Lost by Joan Miriam, and I relied very heavily on her book. And then When Girls Next Door Kill by Iris Owen, The New York Daily Times, The Sacramento Bee,
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Eden & Briana
and my crime library. So it's banter time. My case is officially over. If you don't want to stick around, please exit stage left. The rest of us bitches, let's get to it, shall we?
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Eden & Briana
and I'm getting a very dirty look from my daughter. Mm-hmm.
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Briana
For one, until this case, I have never met Shirley that was evil. That name is just beautiful to me.
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Eden & Briana
Mm-hmm.
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Briana
Fuck you.
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Eden & Briana
Sorry? sorry.
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Briana
i don't agree with them being tried as juveniles.
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Eden & Briana
now that was...
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Briana
It was premeditated.
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Eden & Briana
Yeah. Yes.
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Briana
Their behaviors from prior.
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Eden & Briana
Mm-hmm.
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Eden & Briana
When you put the whole...
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Briana
Why should they have been able
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Briana
to be sentenced as juveniles? Get out at 25, 26 years old, still a baby
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Eden & Briana
Yep.
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Eden & Briana
Baby. Mm-hmm.
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Briana
and go on to live the perfect little life.
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Eden & Briana
I know.
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Briana
What about Anna? What about her husband, quote unquote, that was in the hospital with cancer? What about Carl? Do you think they just move on like nothing happened?
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Eden & Briana
I know.
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Briana
I don't fucking think so. These girls should not have been able to get out.
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Eden & Briana
I don't think so either.
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Eden & Briana
Not at all. This case pissed me off.
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Briana
and It was almost... It was almost...
Rehabilitation and Justice Debate
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Briana
You know, it wasn't like a crime of passion or anything like that. It was premeditated.
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Briana
and
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Briana
what do they call it when um ah
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Briana
like when and when when an attack is so brutal it's um personal.
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Briana
Like it's
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Eden & Briana
know.
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Briana
like it's
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Eden & Briana
I know what you're talking about. i do It's just not popping in. It's not a crime of passion. It
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Briana
No.
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Briana
What the hell is that word? What is it?
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Eden & Briana
wasn't family.
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Briana
No.
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Briana
Anyways, you know what I mean.
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Eden & Briana
I do know what you mean.
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Briana
Personal attack. Like it, it almost felt personal for how brutal it was. Revenge.
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Eden & Briana
Right. But now, I didn't get into heavy detail about her psychiatric evaluation, but one of the psychiatrists, and i don't quote me because it's I'm going to tell it the way I perceived it, um he said that It was like she was killing her mother.
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Eden & Briana
Shirley.
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Briana
Yeah.
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Eden & Briana
It was like all that rage and everything all came out and it was like she was killing her mom.
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Briana
But then to say afterwards that we did it for fun and we wanted to do it again.
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Eden & Briana
Mm-hmm. Exactly. Exactly.
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Briana
that's, you know what I'm, sorry don't know.
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Eden & Briana
I do know what you mean. I do know what you mean. Remember the first half I said I wanted to grab those girls and just sweep them out of their nightmare?
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Briana
Yeah.
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Eden & Briana
But then they became the nightmare.
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Briana
Yep. But, you know, it could have been ah potentially avoided.
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Eden & Briana
Yes. I truly believe it could have been. I mean,
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Eden & Briana
look at Cindy studying law.
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Eden & Briana
i know I read something about Pepperdine.
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Eden & Briana
If they would had the right upbringing, if she's got the smarts to study law, obviously she's intelligent. Law is not easy.
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Briana
Right.
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Eden & Briana
If she would had, if she would have grown up in different circumstances,
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Briana
And that's probably why she didn't get away with reason of insanity.
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Eden & Briana
No, that was Shirley.
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Eden & Briana
Shirley did keep struggling there for a while.
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Briana
Oh. a
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Eden & Briana
Yep. It was Cindy that...
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Briana
Yep. Sorry.
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Eden & Briana
Yeah.
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Briana
I'm getting confused.
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Eden & Briana
But there's no... There's really no justice in this case, though. At all.
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Briana
No.
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Briana
i mean, don't even have your life figured out yet.
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Eden & Briana
And Carl...
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Eden & Briana
No, no.
00:24:57
Briana
You served a 10 year sentence and now you can just do what you please. Like, please.
00:25:04
Eden & Briana
I'm assuming there was probably a lot of freaking therapy and rehab, but that's beside the point. Anna, you know, she didn't get that. And Carl, he's going to have to live with that vision for the rest of his life you of seeing his mom in that.
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Briana
Yeah.
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Eden & Briana
in that I mean, that's got to be an... Every time you shut your eyes, you would see that. One would think.
00:25:29
Briana
Yeah, for sure. and it's all you said in the beginning, feel bad for the child, but not so much the adult or who they grow into be.
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Eden & Briana
and That's not fair. Right.
00:25:42
Briana
And back again, like I firmly believe that these girls would have gotten the true love of a mother,
00:25:54
Eden & Briana
Mm-hmm.
00:25:55
Briana
think circumstances would have been different.
00:25:57
Eden & Briana
I truly feel that way too. I don't think these guys were born evil. I think they were made that way.
00:26:07
Briana
and And which explains the rehabilitation,
00:26:13
Briana
rehabilitation.
00:26:15
Eden & Briana
Yeah.
00:26:18
Briana
But I just, i don't think I could, it'd be really hard for me to forgive them.
00:26:25
Eden & Briana
Right. I agree. i absolutely agree. If they would have just given one thought to what they were doing and who they were affected, but you know, they had so much hate. I, they didn't care.
00:26:39
Briana
Right.
00:26:39
Eden & Briana
i oh
00:26:44
Eden & Briana
this case would have been a whole lot easier if it would have been like somebody that was actually doing the hurting, you know, um I shouldn't say it would be easier, but it wouldn't be such a surprise. Yeah.
00:26:56
Briana
Yep.
00:26:58
Eden & Briana
What you looking at?
00:27:00
Briana
ah Their photos.
00:27:03
Eden & Briana
Oh.
00:27:04
Briana
Shirley was a big girl.
00:27:06
Eden & Briana
Mm-hmm.
00:27:09
Eden & Briana
Cindy was.
00:27:11
Briana
God dang it.
00:27:12
Eden & Briana
Shirley's the small one. Smaller.
00:27:13
Briana
Yes.
00:27:15
Eden & Briana
i think shirley was Cindy was tall.
00:27:18
Briana
Yeah.
00:27:21
Briana
Yeah. Okay. I'm going to... take NyQuil and pass out.
00:27:31
Eden & Briana
Okay, I will finish this up and get it uploaded. and and
00:27:37
Briana
Let us know your thoughts, concerns, comments, questions. If you just want to bullshit, you know the drill.
00:27:45
Eden & Briana
You know the drill. Miners of Mayhem at gmail.com.
00:27:48
Briana
No video today.
00:27:49
Eden & Briana
Remember what?
00:27:51
Briana
no video today.
00:27:53
Eden & Briana
No video today because Bree's sick. Did you even get to go to work today?
00:27:57
Briana
Yeah. Oh yeah. I toughed it out, but I'm starting to,
00:28:02
Eden & Briana
Pay for it now. Are you getting a fever again?
00:28:05
Briana
I think so.
00:28:06
Eden & Briana
Oh.
00:28:07
Briana
I'm freezing, but like my head is like really hot.
00:28:10
Eden & Briana
Okay.
00:28:11
Briana
So I'm gonna
00:28:15
Briana
call it a day.
00:28:16
Eden & Briana
Yeah, I don't blame you. Okay, so remember we won't be here next week.
00:28:21
Briana
Nope.
00:28:21
Eden & Briana
I probably don't have anything to update anyway because Timothy Hochschild, his trial's been scheduled, so there wouldn't be any good updates anyway. So no episode next week. Um,
00:28:33
Briana
I'll see you when I get back.
00:28:35
Eden & Briana
Yeah, the week after.
00:28:37
Briana
I'll be all suntanned and ready to go.
00:28:37
Eden & Briana
um
00:28:41
Eden & Briana
Okay, we'll see you in a couple weeks, guys.
00:28:44
Briana
love you. Bye.
00:28:46
Eden & Briana
Bye.
00:28:47
Briana
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