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Anniversary Special: 1 Year of Growing Up Christian!
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What a year it's been! Since posting our first episode on December 17, 2020, we've met so many cool people, had a ton of great conversations, and published a total of 59 episodes. This is a long-winded thank you to everyone who has downloaded the show, and all of the great guests who took time out of their schedule to talk to us! We truly didn't expect for the show to take off the way it has, and we're really excited to show you some of the things we've got planned for next year. Sam and I want to wish all of you happy holidays, and a New Year that's the best of your life, thus far!
Your brothers in Christ,
Casey & Sam
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Transcript
Podcast Anniversary Celebration
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to an impromptu special episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Casey. And I'm Sam. And the reason that we're putting this episode out today is because it's our one year anniversary. So we published our first episode on December 17th of last year. And it feels like in some ways, it feels like it's been way longer. And some ways it feels like it was like two months ago.
00:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, dude. It is weird. It's such a trip. It's hard to believe it's been a year. It's really cool the way that it's turned into more of a community than I think we expected when we started this.
Origins and Growth of the Podcast
00:01:02
Speaker
It was born out of us just reconnecting and joking about all the goofy Christian shit we grew up thinking
00:01:15
Speaker
Well, I guess we can record ourselves. I guess we had the audacity to think that it would be worth recording our unintelligible conversations of it. So then, you know, we just started with our friends, like people that we knew or sometimes they were just acquaintances, but people we knew from Liberty who had similar experience. The things just kind of snowballed into something really dope. Yeah, yeah, it's it kind of caught us by surprise how
00:01:44
Speaker
how much momentum this thing picked up and thank you to everybody listening. Thanks for downloading. To give you an idea, let me give you some stats here of where growing up Christian stands as of today.
00:01:58
Speaker
One year in, we've put out 55 normal episodes, like our weekly stuff, and I think four episodes of Friday Fellowship, which is kind of like our once in a while we have a friend on goofing around. I feel like we would have done more. I feel like we have so many friends to just goof off with. But I guess, honestly, it's more of a scheduling thing than anything at this point.
Listener Gratitude and Guest Reflections
00:02:24
Speaker
It's tough to find the time always to find another night of the week to sit down and do those, but those are always so much fun. Yeah. The scheduling goes in like bursts where Sam will have like eight people lined up to a week for like four weeks, but then three of those people inevitably will cancel or have to postpone or, you know, somebody gets sick, somebody with a weak immune system that, you know, can't help but cough and hack all the time. That's still me.
00:02:53
Speaker
I get it, I get what you're doing. Oh shit, I'm doing it. I've had this cough, but I don't know, it's hard to even gauge for people who are listening, I guess, on the intro. Last week, two weeks ago, I was like in awful shape, but whenever I get sick, I get stuck with this cough. I feel fine, but I get this cough that lasts for about like four weeks and it doesn't hurt. It's like, no, it's just like you talk and all of a sudden your body's just like,
00:03:23
Speaker
We're going to ruin this conversation and you just, I can't stop coughing. It's bad. I got to struggle. I'm the past two intros have been awful. And now we're doing, um, our little impromptu one year. And I'm that's three weeks. It's like three weeks later almost. And I'm still coughing. Yeah, I there's, I think that thing's going around right now. Cause there's a couple of the guys that I work with that has been had if they've been stuck with it for like a few weeks themselves, but
Behind-the-Scenes Challenges
00:03:52
Speaker
Yeah, so 59 total recordings that we've put out. There's been a couple more that didn't quite make the cut where, you know, we've had one or two with audio issues. We've had a couple, especially in the beginning, we did like six episodes that we listened back to and we're like, this is trash. So we just got rid of them.
00:04:15
Speaker
Those ones were so funny to listen back to. It has to have been the first six or seven recordings that we did where we just like, we need to put these in the fridge. And we did them, listened back to each one.
00:04:31
Speaker
And we're like, well, let's just keep going. And then eventually we were just like, all right, we're gonna just hit the reset button in this whole thing. So by the time you heard like the first episodes that came out with us talking about what our college experience was or our faith experience, that was probably the third time we had told each other those stories. So they managed to come out not sounding like overly rehearsed, but
00:04:57
Speaker
It had definitely been the third time we had those conversations recorded. That's the upside of being a narcissist, is you just never get tired of hearing yourself talk, you know? I know. Listening to yourself tell those stories and being like, eh, no, we'll try this again. And then deleting that twice and then actually being like, I think that's good enough. I think people are going to enjoy listening to me say it this time. Stupid. Yeah.
00:05:26
Speaker
A lot of recording, a lot of time spent, you know, talking to people, putting episodes together, booking, all of that kind of stuff. To give you an idea, and this, you know, like I said, the momentum that we, that this thing kind of picked up off the bat was a little shocking, I think at times, but to give you an idea is we've had
00:05:47
Speaker
almost 50,000 people download the podcast so far. And so, I don't know, it's humbling to see that. I mean, that's incredible. And man, thank you guys so much for listening. Yeah.
Favorite Guests and Episodes
00:06:03
Speaker
What are, I guess, what are some of your, we've talked to so many people, it's hard to actually always recall exactly, like off the top of your head, all the guests that we've had, we've had a lot of really fun people to talk to, but
00:06:15
Speaker
Are there any standouts for you where you're just like, this was a lot of fun for me? Okay, let's start with this. Our go-tos, some of our favorite people that have been recurring guests. One, Luke Slam Dunk Wilson. Yeah, I know. It's been a little while since we talked to him too. I feel like we got to get that guy back on the show.
00:06:36
Speaker
Dude, he's been running and gunning. He's on news shows and stuff right now. They just passed that legislation that he was pretty excited about that banned conversion therapy in Canada. Yeah. He's been on a bunch of podcasts. He's a little podcast slut these days. I love it. Can you say that word still? I don't think so. I think as long as it's not related to sexual activity, I think you can. Okay. All right. We'll keep it.
00:07:06
Speaker
We're going to do zero. Luke, I think you came across Luke's story somewhere and messaged you.
Liberty University Controversies
00:07:15
Speaker
Oh, it was his article that he wrote, right? I'd seen that. There's a Facebook group that existed for Liberty alum who were disappointed.
00:07:28
Speaker
Uh, with that, who woke up while they're in at some point in the, the Facebook group, it was, it's private and it would, it would, uh, it would, any articles that would come out related to Liberty university and the fucking dumpster fire that that place is, it would, it would post there and people would, uh, and they would occasionally post things from Luke, uh, that he had written.
00:07:52
Speaker
Luke was active in that group when things would get worse. The group has essentially died out for the most part. Not anyone could just post in it, but there was a big return your diploma to LU protest or something like that a couple of years back. Do you remember that, Casey? Yeah. And the idea was everyone brings their diplomas to the front. I think the steps of Demas or whatever and just throw it at Demas and then
00:08:22
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know how long I hung out. I didn't make the trip, but I've been holding on to my diploma ever since. I keep thinking about doing a live burning of it. And I just forget. Plus, then I feel guilty because it's kind of plasticky. And I'm like, should I really be burning this? I'm not really going to affect the environment at all. But it's just like I've I've shifted my Christian guilt to a liberal guilt. So it's just like, oh, that's probably bad for the planet. I don't know if I should do.
00:08:50
Speaker
So I'm struggling through it. Maybe you guys can all pray for me and help me come to a good decision with your thoughts and prayers on whether or not I should burn it or not on Instagram live, but you could recycle it. Yeah.
00:09:03
Speaker
You can go to the... I live in the middle of nowhere, so there is no recycling service out here. You can't get a can for it or anything, so you have to just hoard your garbage for a month and then you take it to this place in downtown Wichita that's a big recycling center and sort through it all and stuff and get sticky hands.
Humorous Recycling Discussion
00:09:27
Speaker
There's always like some weird some weird people there that look like they might be collecting rather than dropping off Oh, yeah, I'm sure that's there's dude. It's funny. There's also because I have recycling I can when I lived in Boston everything was single stream and I loved it like you'd separate cardboard just dump it in and
00:09:47
Speaker
Yeah, it was like anything that could be recycled, you dumped in one bin and a truck came and took it. And then they took it and burned it. Yes. I don't really want to derail this into a whole conversation about recycling, but most towns that offer recycling, at least more than 50% of that just gets thrown away. Like if you don't rinse your shit out, it goes in the garbage.
00:10:11
Speaker
There's so many reason and then even most plastics that have the recycle symbol on it can't really be recycled. Like there's so many issues with our recycling system. Well, that's like, you know, taking mine in, they have like, like five different bins for different types of recyclable plastic.
00:10:31
Speaker
Yeah, like three or four different bins for different types of paper. So you kind of have to like sort it as you go in, which when you're when you don't know what you're doing is really annoying. But now I'm like, I got a pro science. I'm going quick now.
00:10:45
Speaker
I put my recycles out and one day I looked out and watched the pickup happen and the trash truck legit just dumped all my recycles straight into the trash. It's like, what the fuck is this? It's like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. But then also, I'm like, I'm supposed to separate it all out. And then I went to, it's not like a real dump that I have in my small town, but
00:11:12
Speaker
They get a place where you can bring your trash and recycles. It's just like the big blue dumpsters that separated them out. So for a while, they always had them separated. Plastic, cardboard, plastic and glass, cardboard, and then one for your trash. And I went there recently and the plastic and cardboard were the same. They all got dumped into the same bin now.
00:11:34
Speaker
And I'm still separating out my recycles at home between plastic and cardboard. So I don't know if we moved to like some single stream service that I'm not aware of, but I'm not trying to put in that effort. I'm not trying to put that. I know. That's what I'm thinking. I'm like, they're just throwing all this in and then sending it into like a cremator, basically.
00:11:54
Speaker
They're reducing their cold, cold usage, getting those, those carving credits for the state, but they're just burning your garbage instead. Yeah. I just, I get so frustrated by the, this is a great anniversary episode talking about results, but I do get really frustrated by the fact that like.
00:12:11
Speaker
I feel like everyone, not everyone individually, but collectively, there's this push for people to be conscious about whether or not they recycle or don't. And you should. I do. I try to. Great. But when you really look at what the problem is, it's not people. It's businesses that have just
00:12:32
Speaker
become, it's too profitable to not use single use plastics, right? There's no incentive for them to change. So we're going to just keep producing it. And we're going to have to keep buying it and keep throwing it out or recycling it. But it's just never going to like fix, we're not going to fix our landfill problems or our pollution problems or whatever, like until we're like,
00:12:55
Speaker
I don't know, I feel like that's the great ploy. We obviously live in a corporatocracy and the ploy is make people think the onus is on them to recycle and we'll just keep fucking this planet over and making a good profit on it. It just gets to get mad at their neighbor because they put their aluminum cans in a trash bag instead of a recycling bin and make us turn on each other. That's what I think is going on. That was a long way of saying that you just throw everything away.
Guest Booking Challenges
00:13:23
Speaker
I don't do that crazy. Don't tell people that.
00:13:27
Speaker
Where's that liberal guilt when you need it? I know. Okay. So Christian nightmares. Yeah, I was gonna mention him. He's he was great. I loved Brent Lydic, the guy who made spirit quest. I thought we Yeah, we had a fun connection with him. And is the way that he put some of his deconstruction into a movie that he was able to to make and get like
00:13:54
Speaker
distributor for to get that movie produced and it was really cool I don't know if I didn't know him and know where he came from like I don't think I have the the savvy to pick I'm not I don't break down film very let's be like you ever talked to like film buffs and listening to them pick up on the nuance of what directors are doing with their films and
00:14:18
Speaker
Oh yeah, we talked about that. I think when we, uh, did we, when we intro that episode, how, how we're too dumb to, to find the theme. But the way that he, he put that in, uh, especially now coming at it, knowing that that's the direction. I appreciate it a lot. And anyone who can make a movie, I think deserves all the accolades in the world. Cause that shit doesn't come together easy. I'm trying to, I'm thinking back on like some of the ones that I had the most fun with.
00:14:49
Speaker
So, shout out to Jenna. Her episode was called Life on the Lamb with a Christian Conman. She talked about her dad who basically like was a traveling church swindler that, you know, talked about being a millionaire from, I forget where they said they were from. Yeah, he definitely said he had all his assets frozen and shit. Yeah, he had a great story.
00:15:18
Speaker
hosed a bunch of churches and people and individuals out of money and resources and things. And her story was fascinating, I thought. I love that. So that's like a podcast that I would download, you know, normally. But her story was really interesting. I think there's a couple of episodes that definitely made me feel dumb. So like talking to Dan Koch.
00:15:47
Speaker
Or Charles McBride. I feel like it came away from a few of those, like, oh man, I'm a Neanderthal. Yeah, there's a couple where you're like, these people have a lot of information stored in their brain. They clearly put a lot more work into learning things and having an opinion that people want to hear. We fly by the seat of our pants in a lot of ways.
00:16:17
Speaker
Look, obviously people seem to like it well enough and it's working for us to some degree. And we can talk to smart people and get the information from them, but it doesn't stay up in my brain for as long as I, I learned things long enough just to impress people with a factor too real quick. And then I have to find new ones to use later on. So that way, like, I feel like I'm staying, like I look kind of smart, but
00:16:45
Speaker
I don't think anything sticks up there as long as I, as long as I like to. Like there are so many people who read a book and obtain information and that is with them forever. That's just, that's there. They have that stored in their brain and they will pull it out 10 years later. I'm so envious of people who have that kind of a mind. I only store facts about animals, serial killers and cults. That's like, I've got three folders in my brain and that's what it all goes into.
00:17:14
Speaker
That's essentially how you occupy your time. I mean, you're either hunting, listening to podcasts about cults, or serial killing. Yeah. Or actively serial killing.
Hypothetical Scenarios and Humor
00:17:25
Speaker
I mean, maybe. I've done the research. I feel like I could do it. Do you legitimately think you could get away with murder? I know most people probably think they do, especially now. I mean, anyone who grew up watching like CSI, and all these like, I mean, crime dramas,
00:17:43
Speaker
I've watched so many crime dramas, British crime dramas, me and my wife were on a kick for a long time. I feel like I've obtained a lot of information. I think I don't know if I could do it. Whether or not you get away with it has a lot to do with who your victim is.
00:17:59
Speaker
Like if people are going to automatically, are they going to know that they're missing soon? Or could they go for a while without, you know, do they not have like steady contact with the people around them and stuff? I mean, that's kind of why serial killers, I mean, the ones that have
00:18:16
Speaker
gone on for a while, you know, they, that's a big part of why is because, you know, they're, they're preying on vulnerable people that, you know, police have typically not put a ton of effort into finding when people report a missing and, uh, no connection with two, right? Like serial killers, they don't have the connection prior outside of maybe some general stalking, but a lot of murders are,
00:18:39
Speaker
people killing people they know and those people see the huge percentage but like if it's if it's a random act of violence like like if I saw Joel Osteen walking to his car unprotected and you know I mean maybe I tried to do something I don't know I don't want to get too specific but I don't have any connection to that guy
00:19:03
Speaker
And if there were no cameras in that parking lot, they would never be like, we should look into Sam Shippman. They would have no idea. I think if I'm going to go with it, like if I'm going to start doing something criminal, I think drug trafficking has a lot more appeal to me than as serial killing. Yeah, no, I don't think I don't find murder particularly killing. You've talked a lot about like how murder situations
00:19:28
Speaker
make you horny and I just, it's not for me. I don't get that, you know? It's weird. I must have flocked some of that out because I don't recall that quite the same way you do, but I'll take your word for it. I like it when their eyes go dark. Yeah. And my hands are sore and my arms are cramping up, but I just keep on squeezing. It's hard. It's honestly hard to even pay attention to what you're saying with all the blood from my head rushing to my penis.
00:19:58
Speaker
I'm getting dizzy. If you had to kill, if you could, and you knew you'd get away with it, kill one mega church pastor. Oh, man. That's a tough one. See, I feel like there's so many there's so many rising stars out there right now that I don't know their names and stuff like that. I would go with a classic and pick like Benny Hinn. Oh, yeah.
00:20:20
Speaker
Yeah. I'd go with Ravi Zachar. Somebody beat you. God beat you to the punch. Dude, Greg Locke is a prime candidate. I truly find that man despicable and horribly annoying. He's super annoying. Yeah, he's so bad. He's so annoying. I think I'll go with Greg Locke.
00:20:37
Speaker
I bet you Pastor Greg tells a lot of fight stories. He strikes me as that kind of guy. He's always got a story that he's, quote unquote, reluctant to tell you about a time when he saws it. He's the kind of guy that sits around and fantasizes about seeing someone slap a woman in the parking lot and he would intervene. Because it's not him and he's so angry that he's not the one doing the slapping.
00:21:06
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. No, when he strikes me, is that gonna get like, like, you know, I wouldn't hit anybody. But, you know, they force my hand with their conduct. I had to step in. It was only the only right thing to do was to shoot him in the face. I mean, Jesus flips tables. What was I supposed to do? Greg lock is the guy with the short hair that like, was screaming sounds like if you came in with a mask, he would tell you to get out. Yeah.
00:21:36
Speaker
He was, we played his clip on the Christian Nightmares episode. The most recent one, the top nightmares of this shit show of a year. What's the guy who looks like the bad guy from Fallout or from Far Cry 5? You know, he's like the younger guy and he always gets like the droopy Jeffrey Dahmer glasses on. Oh, I don't, yeah, he does look like it. He dresses like a hype beast. Yeah, yeah, I cannot remember his name,
00:22:03
Speaker
Um, that, that trashy hips, he's got that, like, it can't be hipster because he dresses too expensive, but it'd be like if a hipster won the lottery. Which I guess he did because he's a mega church pastor. So he did. He looks like an annoying tick tocker that says even more annoying things. Yeah. Uh, I can't remember his name though. Uh, that one's I'm drawing a blank on that one. Yeah. The guy, you guys know what I'm talking about.
00:22:31
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know how many gamers we have out there. I played Far Cry Fun. It was a lot of fun. Okay, he looks like the guy from Waco. You lost me on that one. Man, I hate myself. I just bragged about storing all this information. I'm changing the topic though, because I think we would be remiss to not talk about David Koresh. Go on.
00:23:01
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Uh, our episode was Zach Levitt from who's the showrunner for gangster capitalism. Yeah. That, that was an interesting one. Was fantastic. That guy is, um, his investigative journalism skills are unbelievable. And it was credentials before that. I mean, he, he did a lot of, as he said in the episode, he liked capturing story. Um, he'd done a lot of sports docs, but
00:23:31
Speaker
The way he has masterfully handled all the shit at Liberty University. And I mean, even the seasons before that on the NRA or the college admissions scandal, like, I mean, he's hitting on stories that occurred and he's painting this full picture of these issues that people care about in a way that no other media outlets really have. And he does it through firsthand conversations with people involved.
00:23:59
Speaker
He's truly incredible at what he does. And I just recently listened to a bonus episode two of Gangster Capitalism season three. And it's just, it's another interview and episode revolving around one of the Jane Does and the Title IX violation case that has been filed against liberty. It was,
00:24:25
Speaker
I don't even know the right words to describe it. I mean, it's gut-wrenching for sure, listening to people describe their stories of rape and sexual assault. But the way it played out in the misreporting between LUPD and Lynchburg Police Department and the way that they just really chose not to investigate based on a feeling or
00:24:50
Speaker
or covered things up, didn't provide records that were subpoenaed for court. There's so many issues. If you haven't listened to it, you got to listen to it. It's truly another unbelievable situation that has come out of Liberty University.
00:25:11
Speaker
Yeah, that was that was a fun one talking to him and just hearing some of the behind the scenes info about that and pulling that kind of an episode or that kind of a series together. Just it's a whole different skill set. Not everybody is cut out for that kind of work, you know. Yeah, dude, on episode three, I mean, on on the bonus episode two of season three, you hear Zach on a call with
00:25:40
Speaker
with one of the detectives who didn't investigate this case. And the way that he just asks questions candidly, you know, he doesn't ask leading questions. He's very calculated in questions that he asks, but he's talking to somebody that he clearly thinks made a lot of mistakes. And I'm just, it's impressive. It's really impressive to listen to. I mean, what he, it's not like he has a background in this, uh, in asking these kinds of questions and having these conversations with people. And he,
00:26:10
Speaker
handles it so professionally, asks all the right things to get the information he needs to put a show like that together. He's really doing incredible work. I loved talking to him. Maybe there'll be a season four that's related to something we can talk to him about because it'd be fun to have him back on. I was trying to think of some of the funnier ones, like where we laughed
00:26:34
Speaker
The most the one that comes to mind for me is that the episode we did with Stephen Henning from the rival podcast. Yeah, we talked about we went on a whole side rant about how purity care of chastity cages like this.
00:26:53
Speaker
Yeah, dick cages, the new chastity belts. Yeah. And his story about having a purity ceremony. What was the curriculum that they were using for that whole thing? Is it true love weights? Yeah, I think it was true love weights. Okay, yeah. But they had a whole mock wedding ceremony where they- It's so dumb. It's insane.
00:27:16
Speaker
It is crazy. His purity ring breaking the day after he had sex with his girlfriend or whatever, or went too far. I don't know if I should put him on black. I don't remember if it was sex specifically. He grabbed a boob, but he woke up the next day and his purity ring had cracked. That's the best fucking story, dude. Yeah. Yeah. That's some straight up, uh, that's some, that's a Bible story almost. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. We had, um, also a lot of fun and a lot of laughs with Micah J. Murray.
00:27:47
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. What's his podcast called? The Existential Happy Hour, right? Yes. Okay. Yeah. That was a fun one. I think that
00:28:00
Speaker
The conversation we had with the Existential Ginger was a ton of fun. We actually have an episode coming out. We were guests on her podcast, which is called the Existential Ginger. That would be out the day before this airs. It's coming out on the 16th, I believe. This will air on the 17th or is this airing on the 16th? It's something.
00:28:20
Speaker
Yeah, it airs. It'll go. It'll air. For anyone who cares, we're recording this on the 15th and it's either going to air on the 16th or 17th of December. And at that point, you can also listen to us on the Existential Ginger podcast. Yeah, we actually did like a pretty long one with her and it was fun. I think we
00:28:43
Speaker
I think we've both been drinking a little bit and it was a blast. I definitely think I probably did. Sometimes when I do other people's podcasts and I know I don't have to try to make it go in any particular direction and have my wits about me, I think most of the time if I've been on other people's podcasts, I've had a few drinks while doing it and maybe a couple leading up to. Definitely think like my
00:29:11
Speaker
Wow, I can't believe we're talking to this person right now. Episode is probably with Jesse Leach from Kill Switch Engage.
00:29:18
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to agree with you on that one completely because I don't. I mean, there is others too. I think, you know, I mean, we talked to other people who were in bands that we enjoy, but Killswitch Engage for me growing up was like a big fucking deal. Not only were they a big deal for me growing up, like they're still a big deal. They have a huge following. They world tour. They are.
00:29:46
Speaker
They're just a big deal. So to be able to have him on, especially early on, let's be honest, dude, we were really early on in this thing. We had nobody of real, what episode was he? We didn't have a lot of, a lot released at that point. I think he was in the first 10 or 15.
00:30:06
Speaker
Yeah, we hadn't had a lot of shit released yet. Maybe we had talked to John Steingard. I think he might have been our biggest guest at that point. We had moved on from our friends to some people who had some were part of the, I don't know, the evangelical machine at some point or another. But yeah, it's episode 14. Yeah, that's so.
00:30:28
Speaker
That's so early for us. And to not have a back catalog, to not have a list of guests that he would be familiar with at that point, like, was one really cool of him to just give us that, to kind of take that shot, like, yeah, why not? He had nothing to lose out of it. I guess, I mean, he could have just ignored the message or whatever. It was just really dope of him.
00:30:54
Speaker
to take a shot on a podcast that had really just started. I mean, what, we recorded it and it came out a couple of weeks later. We were so early on.
00:31:04
Speaker
Yeah. I think it's been surprising about it too. And so Sam does all the booking and he's, he's been the one that, you know, organize a lot of that kind of stuff and get some of these guests lined up and everything. And I'm like shocked at how gracious people have been with their time.
Personal Growth and Family Dynamics
00:31:23
Speaker
Cause I would have figured that a lot of the people that we talked to would be like, yeah, no, I'm good.
00:31:30
Speaker
You know, some people have done that for sure. A decent chunk of people. There's been a few. I gotta say, without naming names, because that'd be fucked up. There's a lot of people who I've talked to. They're like, yeah, definitely. Sounds great. Let's get something scheduled. And then, you know, you start working towards it and they're like, you know, I got it. Let's like shoot for, I don't know, they'll put out a little bit of a later date. Like maybe they got something coming up, whatever. People are busy. Yeah, no problem.
00:31:59
Speaker
You reach out and it's just complete silence after that. Like you send a follow-up, then you send another follow-up and that's it. They're done. The communication ended and that drives me nuts. And it's happened a couple of times where you think you've got some great ones on the line that the listeners would love and then they get away.
00:32:23
Speaker
So other questions like what are some of the interesting, weird, uncomfortable things that have happened to you as a result of doing this podcast and talking about this type of stuff? It's tough to be honest. There are certain specifics about it that I don't actually want to get into because I don't know if it'll get if it'll get hurt.
00:32:53
Speaker
But there's definitely some, I mean, there's some family members who have listened and been like, who have never mentioned to me that they've listened that are very disappointed. Very. And it's funny because, you know, I think a lot of their disappointment comes from, you know, I don't think they listened too deep into it. Maybe a few episodes in.
00:33:21
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disappointment was largely related to some of the jokes I guess that I made that they thought were sacrilegious or something like that and that they they have made this decision that I'm kind of anti-christian now ironically right because you did talk about Jesus giving a hand job with the holes in his in his palms I didn't talk about it it was a brief jest and it decided going to
00:33:46
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a lot of detail. But I'm sure Jordan savior understands. I think he laughed his ass off if he was listening. That's another nail in the coffin for you. But yeah, so there's been it's weird because now it's like, are you going to mention it? Are you not? I just have to sit here knowing that you listen to it and that you're disappointed, but you'll never actually have that conversation. I think that's what's weird is like there are certain family members that
00:34:15
Speaker
people that you don't have those kinds of conversations with. I have some family members where I've specifically told them that I don't want to have certain conversations with them because they're the ones that are reluctant to have them and then they're the ones that tried to have them and they want to talk about politics and religion and it never turns out right. And it's like, look, I obviously love you. I want to have a relationship with you
00:34:41
Speaker
And that's only going to work if we don't have these conversations, at least every time we try to, every time we see each other, uh, maybe once a year we can have these and get mad and yell and then take a break for another 365 days. But yeah, I don't know. What about you? I mean, I'm sure you've had a couple of, you've had a couple of things come up and how much you can do it specifically, but well, my, so.
00:35:04
Speaker
I work where I work, I work with some family members and that are in, you know, leadership in that in the company. And I had someone complain at work about it. They went straight to the top and said that they didn't appreciate the fact that
00:35:29
Speaker
I was talking about this that were having the, you know, making jokes about this kind of, you know, same sort of thing, like disrespectful, not professional, shouldn't be doing it. And yes, all three. That one, that makes my, that gets my hackles up. Choke somebody out. Yeah. I'm telling HR.
00:35:53
Speaker
There's like a weird line in there where, you know, cause I'm in sales and you know, I have a team of guys that, that I work with that are all in sales and it is a, it's a constant thing like weighing what you should post on social media. Like if you have customers and co-workers and people from other companies and everybody has like kind of a different standard for that. And everybody's standard flexes and bends depending on if they agree with whatever it's being set.
00:36:24
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Yes. Yep. And.
00:36:27
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I don't know that that has been annoying at times. Although I think most most of it, there's a bunch of people that I work with that that listen to the show pretty regularly. And we've had conversations about it and stuff. And it's been very good natured. So that was I mean, I think the other only awkward thing that's really happened besides that, other than like hearing that, you know, so and so made a comment about this and that.
00:36:55
Speaker
I talked about it not too long ago, but I had a Christian Nightmares t-shirt on. The neighbor has a horse that gets out periodically. She's kind of an escape artist. Her name is Cricket and my yard is full of apple trees. So Cricket broke out of the fence one day and she wanted to come over and eat apples.
00:37:16
Speaker
And so this old lady. That's such a typical horse thing to do, dude. Come on. That horse needs to get a fucking personality. She's got an attitude. She's a sassy gal. But there's an old lady that stopped and we were working in the yard and I came out for her on the corner carrying a bunch of stuff and she's like, your horse is out.
00:37:36
Speaker
I'm like, oh, man, it's not my horse. We get to talking. She wants to help corral it and stuff. She's a really nice lady. But at some point, she looked at my T-shirt that says Christian Nightmares on it. And she had a lot of questions. And then she looked in her waist, and she realized you were Donald ducking it. And it got really weird real quick. Just Christian Nightmares and then nothing. And she was like, I didn't realize at first. I don't know why.
00:38:05
Speaker
It wasn't that explicit because I was like full tuck at the time. OK. You know, and I did my best not to give her like a directly from behind profile. I get it. I get it. The goat. And then it looked she noticed when you threw one leg up over that horse to ride it back to the neighbor's yard. She saw a full taint. It was like, oh, wow, I see what's happening here now. Like, sorry, lady. Here's an apple.
00:38:34
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You like polish it off on your bare butt cheek and then you just toss it to her and wink, blow her kiss and took off. Yeah, little wink. Here you go, take two. Yeah, she's like, what does your shirt say? Christian nightmare? She's like, are you a Christian? I'm like, oh, you know, I'm just like trying to get out of the conversation. She's like, are you an atheist?
00:39:01
Speaker
And I'm like, no, it's just a guy I know has a website and it's called Christian Eyewearers and stuff. And she just like wanted to dig into it so bad. Meanwhile, I'm trying to corral a horse that is loose and taking, you know, big old patty dumps in my heart. Yeah, you put your 10 gallon hat on, grab your lasso, and we're going nuts, dude. Dude, this horse, I feel like if you tried to rope this horse, you would be water skiing behind that thing.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah, it would just take off. She's not cooperative. I don't trust horses. I don't trust any animal that can kill me. It's really what it comes down to. Big dogs. No fucking way, dude. I don't like big dogs. I mean, I have I have a decent sized dog. It's like it's a lab boxer mix.
00:39:49
Speaker
I mean, it's not huge. It's like 75 pounds, maybe. It seems like a standard, like it's bigger than a mid-sized dog, not quite a large dog.
00:40:00
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Maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about, but that's as big as a dog can get before I'm just like, fuck this thing. This thing can fucking kill. I could beat my dog up, I think, if I had to. I don't want to, but if push came to shove and shit got real, I think I could beat my dog. But when they get too big, German shepherds even aren't even that big, but I'm scared of those things because
00:40:25
Speaker
Mine's pretty big. I know you got what it's like. He's like he's a little over 100 pounds. He's very tall. I just it's dogs. I don't know. They don't trust. You know what it all probably stems from when I was a kid, I was like some family thing. I don't even I don't know who this family was. It was like cousins of my dad or something like that. I never saw him again afterwards. But
00:40:53
Speaker
They had a golden retriever. The dog was dope, played with it all day long, but it had some food aggression and it was like chewing on a bone. And I went to pet it and that thing just lunged at me. Oh, like barked and did like the chompy thing. And I was like, knocked me over. I was fucking terrified and real scary. I mean, really, it's been I honestly think that's probably the event that made I can't I don't like once I trust them,
00:41:22
Speaker
and I like them and I know them, then I'm fine. A lot of my friends with dogs, I'm not concerned about their dog, but meeting one, it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I get nervous. If most German shepherds, like the ones that they use for police dogs and stuff, if those are grizzly bears, like mine's a panda bear.
Comedic Murder Methods Discussion
00:41:45
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They're chasing down animals and stuff.
00:41:48
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Oh man, he's the type that would just be rolling around on the ground like falling out of trees. Panda bears are like an evolutionary dead end. Yeah, dude, they are. It's insane that they haven't gone extinct. Aren't donkeys kind of like that?
00:42:03
Speaker
I don't know. You can't breed mules together. You have to breed a horse and a donkey. I don't know what the rules are. Honestly, I'm just making things up. Yeah, but I feel like I know what you're saying. I feel like maybe it's a mule. Is that what a mule is? A horse and a donkey? Yeah, of some sort. You ever see that movie Splice with Adrian Brody?
00:42:33
Speaker
No. I remember seeing the cover in the video store when I was a kid. No, dude, that came out when we were at Liberty, for sure. I must be thinking of something else. Maybe I'm thinking of species or something. I feel like that one stuck out to kids because you knew there was nudity in it. I never saw it. I knew I wanted to because I wanted to see some boobs for the first time.
00:42:57
Speaker
I yeah, no splice was Adrian Brody was like I think he was like a scientist that they created like this human animal hybrid and Ended up like getting an attraction to and then he fucked it There's an entire scene where he fucks this hybrid thing and it's weird as shit it huh Yeah, it's worth watching. I mean it was an interesting. It's honestly a decent movie I think they could have gone a little bit lighter on the
00:43:24
Speaker
human hybrid fucking, but generally decent. But my point is that's what a mule is. It's like that we still have them, but there's no reason to like people just keep making that shit happen. And you're like, can you stop? It's their work animals. That's like, but
00:43:42
Speaker
Horses are too. And so are donkey. Like, why do you need? Why do you need to make that like they're bigger or something? Then I get it. I get it. There's some sort of a reason that they use them. But so if I'm making like a criminal profile, the two things that I know make you horny are banging a chimera of some sort. And then more of a griffin guy. You all like a male type persons.
00:44:07
Speaker
Yeah, right. And then asphyxiation. Yeah, I never said that. You said that don't put words. I should say asphyxiating. Like, you want your things on someone's larynx. That's I just don't know why you're jumping those conclusions because I never I never said that that's how I would actually murder somebody. Okay, well, we don't have to talk about it if you're not comfortable. That's fine.
00:44:32
Speaker
I'm comfortable talking about it. I'm more than happy to talk about how I want to murder somebody. It's fine. What's the best way to do it?
00:44:42
Speaker
Maybe you're probably right. It could be. I mean, involved and they can get like the bruises on the neck that can match to your hand patterns and you got to watch out for that. I think it's supposed to take a long time to. Oh, dude, you got to hold on to that for a while. You know, choke that chicken for a bit. Yeah. When you watch movies and like people put their hands on people's necks and choke them out and like it's like maybe three to five seconds they go down. Dude, I can't imagine the effort that would
00:45:12
Speaker
You would have to put into actually murdering someone. That sounds like a true struggle. It sounds terrible. Like how I always laughed at like the Walking Dead, because like the Walking Dead universe, you can shove anything through a skull, like any object, like you can lick your finger and stick it through the top of a zombie's head. No problem.
00:45:36
Speaker
No effort, and the guy can talk a crossbow with his hands like nothing. I didn't know zombies had such fragile bones. Yeah, apparently so. Maybe their bones rot. I don't know.
00:45:51
Speaker
Do they have osteoporosis? Is that what you said? We need to get these zombies on a good multivitamin. Get some fucking calcium. Like those hair, skin, and nails ones like Apriltase. Your central wanted days or else someone's going to stick their thumb through your temple.
00:46:14
Speaker
You never know. Ooh. I feel like I've watched a movie where, uh, the murder, like someone, I am not recalling it specifically, but it's death by sticking your fingers through their eyeballs. Oh yeah. That's been in a few things. Yeah. That is truly a horrible, horrible thing to have to do. Look, if you had to kill a dog though, like if you had to fight off a vicious dog, that's probably a decent way to go for it, right?
00:46:40
Speaker
Yeah, I think they say, wasn't that a topic on this is important where they were talking about like shoving your fists in a dog's mouth if it's attacking you? It somehow turned into like putting your thumb in the dog's butt.
00:47:02
Speaker
Yeah. If you need a new podcast to add to your list and just want something totally, totally worthless, but fun. This is important is fantastic. It's all the dudes from workaholics and it's great. Yeah, it's definitely climbed to the top of my favorites.
Reflections and Future Plans
00:47:21
Speaker
Yeah. I want to give a shout out to, uh, then we can kind of, let's talk about a little bit about what we're
00:47:27
Speaker
looking to do coming up, right? But before that, I want to give a shout out to the last podcast episode we put out before this one before our one year anniversary with Aaron Sprinkle, because that was easily one of my favorite conversations we've had since starting this. That was a fun one for sure. There's, there's, there's people like we've, I feel like you, you establish a connection with some of the guests, right? Like
00:47:55
Speaker
You build up a report pretty quick and it's pretty casual. And then there, there's definitely some that are more of an interview, right? Especially the smarter ones. Uh, you know, is it, uh, my God, I'm blanking on her first name, Catherine, not, not, not smarter, more academic types. Yeah.
00:48:15
Speaker
Yeah, but Catherine Stewart who had written that book, The Power Worshiper, right? She's smart, she's an author. It's all about Christian nationalism. It's like, that's the interview. You're not just shooting the shit, hitting banter, talking about goofy ass shit from growing up, whatever.
00:48:35
Speaker
She didn't even grow up in that world. But you're talking to someone who spent a decade researching how that world became what it is. So you have people like that where it's like, this is an interview. It's not as much of a conversation. And we've had plenty that I like conversations. Those ones are a lot of fun for us. But with Aaron, it was someone that I felt like you hit it off with real quick.
00:49:02
Speaker
That was, it went long. That was one of our longer episodes. And it was kind of one of those you were surprised by the time. You're just like, oh shit, we should probably close this thing out now. It's been almost two hours, but.
00:49:15
Speaker
just knowing his involvement in the music scene, the music industry that made us. It was all behind the scenes and he was privy to a lot of conversations and watched a lot of people change their faith, their beliefs. He obviously had had his questions and changed his over time, but it's more recent that he had really began to look at
00:49:41
Speaker
what he believed and whether or not this was for him or not. I loved it. I had so much fun talking to him. I thought we connected in a way that we don't with all of our guests. I just felt like it was worth shouting out that. I think we closed this year out. I think the interview that we put out with him to close out that final episode of the year was one of the ones that I'm most proud of and enjoyed the most.
00:50:10
Speaker
Yeah, same. That was that was a fun one. So, yeah, should we talk a little bit about going forward, what we want to do, what that looks like? Yeah. So, you know, we've been talking a little bit. I feel like we've mentioned it on the podcast before about we got stuff coming up, but we're finally getting some merch together. You know, we're going to do a little pre-order deal on a T-shirt that we've been working on.
00:50:40
Speaker
for a little bit, trying to get it just right for us and what we want to do. Do we want to get into what the shirt is or do we want to get into it after it comes out? What do we do here? I think we could give a little preview. So if you heard the Friday fellowship episode that we did with my wife April, it's called like something about OnlyFans.
00:51:02
Speaker
But one of the things worship bands to only fans. We didn't talk about that episode because honestly, like we didn't talk about our least favorite episodes. And that was definitely one of my least favorite. That's weird. April was not a great, you know, brutal just because it was awkward just to feel the like the amazing connection, the strength of our bond that. And you know, it was weird to talk to somebody who's only fans I subscribe to.
00:51:42
Speaker
Well so when she was talking she was on she talked a little bit about like some awkward youth group stories and stuff and she shared a story that I've heard a few different people now say that they did as well and it was one of these like
00:51:59
Speaker
You know, really heavy convicting object lessons that the youth group comes up with, you know, and what it was was they took a piece of paper. They were all supposed to draw heart and then they were supposed to cut it out of the construction paper, right?
00:52:15
Speaker
Once everybody was done, they said, all right, so this is your heart. This is what it looks like when you're born. This is pure and lovely and everything that it's supposed to be. This is a heart that's centered on God, blah, blah, blah.
00:52:31
Speaker
Let's talk about every time you've ever, you know, taken your focus off of God and put it on a, on a boy, you know, you got a crush on a boy or, or maybe you had a boyfriend and you guys broke up or whatever it was like, I want you to just rip a little piece off. And so, you know, the whole thing, you know, they go through like all of these scenarios, which are ridiculous. And
00:52:57
Speaker
You know, everybody's tearing chunks and stuff off of their off of their little paper heart. And when they got all done, they passed it around for the little. It's like basically send it through a little gang bang. Yeah.
00:53:09
Speaker
spit on your neighbors once they're all done they were like alright now hold that up now this is what you have left to give to your husband that doesn't look like it did right that's nobody would want that I mean that's just this awful awful message to give you know
00:53:28
Speaker
Yeah, you're not getting through all of these different scenarios without losing pieces, you know, but anyway, so our first shirt is going to feature cool new logo that we're going to run with that I think you guys alike. It's a, it's a little hand symbol. Uh, I thought it was satanic. Sam says it's not, but I kind of worry that that may be a cover story. I don't know. I don't know.
00:53:56
Speaker
It's a hand with cross fingers, which I think has a couple of different, you know, contacts in terms of like the show and in, you know, Sam and I'd stuff on the back. It has a paper heart that is all torn apart and ripped and tattered and stuff. And it's all been taped back together into a heart shape. And it says born again, Virgin.
00:54:22
Speaker
Cross it. We love it to be a family conversation starter for sure. You know, we talked about maybe some family being disappointed in us. I definitely know they're going to be disappointed when, you know, wear that shirt to the next family gathering or something. But if you guys want to disappoint your families, too, we're going to be it's going to be a super limited release. We're going to do a little preorder for it. We don't have the exact numbers yet, but we kind of want to kick off the new year.
00:54:52
Speaker
With that, we have the art done. We have the screen printer on deck just kind of waiting to go.
Balancing Life and Career Aspirations
00:55:00
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So keep an eye out for that.
00:55:02
Speaker
Very excited to get our first little round of merch out. Very exclusive. We might do another print of it. I don't know. It's going to be a one and done. I could tell you it is so that way we could make sure we sold them all. But we'll see. We'll see how it goes. I'm up for swindling. I guess the other big news is one of the things we're looking at is maybe a potential slight restructure.
00:55:24
Speaker
of the show, maybe do, uh, maybe an episode or two a month that I don't have a guest, uh, but are a little more calculated. We're kind of working that out now, but I, Sam Shipman,
00:55:37
Speaker
for those of you who just walked in on the year recap and need to hear my name, I don't know. I just got accepted to grad school. So now I work, I'll be working mostly full time. I have two kids, two foster kids, and now I'm in this podcast and now I'm
00:55:59
Speaker
throwing grad school on top of all of that to become a school adjustment counselor, or maybe sometimes people know it more as a school social worker. But that's starting for me in January, and I'm very, very excited about it. I'm definitely nervous because my only academic credentials are a biblical studies degree from Liberty University that I got over a decade ago, so I'm not entirely sure what I'm in for.
00:56:26
Speaker
Yeah. Did LU online, was there any trouble transferring the credits? No, they took them all. I said it's school counseling. It's a school adjustment counselor, but it's a Christian school adjustment counselor. I forgot to mention. That's important. It's Christian counseling. It's the good kind, the kind that really gets people where they need to be socially and emotionally in life. I'm excited about it. People go, look, man, I'm really struggling.
00:56:56
Speaker
You know, I have a very tumultuous home environment and I can be like, have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior?
00:57:04
Speaker
And I'm paying a lot of money to learn how to say that the right way. It's like sale Casey, you know, sales, right? You can say something and then you can say something, right? Sure. Yeah. Okay. I'm teaching you now. You're shitty at sales. I'm going to teach you how to sell stuff. Uh, so, you know, you can ask somebody if they know Jesus Christ is a person, Lord savior. And you can, you can really ask somebody and you can get in into their life and their heart.
00:57:31
Speaker
and know where they're at and pick on those vulnerabilities so that way you can manipulate them emotionally into accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord. So that's what I'm doing. One of the cool things about being a Christian school counselor too is that it really helps you prioritize the problems that they bring to you because no matter what it is, if it's like getting my brother
00:57:59
Speaker
is punching me in the face. Every time I go home, my parents are starving me to death. Having all these tough time transitioning into new classes and things, you can always take those problems and set them aside in lieu of the fact that we haven't established whether or not you're right with God first. Exactly. A girl could come into my office and say,
00:58:22
Speaker
I'm really having a hard time. My boyfriend's cheating on me with a lot of different girls in the school. And I can be like, well, do you know the story of David? Because he had these kinds of issues, but he was a man after God's own heart. Have you considered that he's a future David? Have you considered that maybe you both need to get right with God and commit your lives to Christ together and maybe join a Bible study together?
00:58:49
Speaker
I really want to see you with the poll coming up. I think you guys might not want to hold hands around the poll. Maybe put a person or two in between you. I don't know if your relationships for hand holding. But guys, because, you know, you know, we don't want your boyfriend holding hands with the girls. He's cheating with you on.
00:59:08
Speaker
Something along the lines of like, I know it doesn't, you're saying he's not honoring you, but are you first honoring him? And did you wear a crop top at all at this year in school? Cause that's, we should probably address that. So I know that's important. Why are you going to school? I mean, you got it pretty much down packed. I do. I, because you can't.
00:59:31
Speaker
legally counsel without being licensed with the state. So I just need to get that. That's just about the licensure. It's just a, you know, bureaucracy, government, government, shit like that regulations. So I have to go, go through the motions, right? To get this stupid fucking piece of paper so that way I can tell people what they really need to hear, which is the gospel.
00:59:56
Speaker
of our Lord and savior, Jesus. So I'm excited about it. Is this the sort of position where you're going to also have to like substitute teacher or whatever, you know, gym class or sex ed or whatever, like in your spare time? No, you don't. You actually just sit in your office. You lock the door, you put it out to lunch, sign on it, and then you get summer's office. So that's mostly what I'm excited about. Just working less. That's, that's a big deal, right? You know, I will have summer's off, uh,
01:00:22
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a week off for Christmas, some time around Thanksgiving, February vacation, April vacation, every three-day weekend imaginable. So that's a perk. That's the only reason I'm actually getting into it. I don't like kids. Your heart's in the right place. I don't care about them.
01:00:40
Speaker
So I'm going to phone it in for 180 days a year, minus a couple of snow days, and then just live my life and enjoy it. So I want people to understand the real reason I'm getting into it. It's probably a terrible idea to have a recording of me talking about that, considering that could come back to get me when I'm looking for jobs. I mean, they'll definitely clip this out in your deposition someday.
01:01:06
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I should probably preface all that with just kidding, but I didn't and no one will believe it now. Well, congratulations. Thanks. I'm excited for you. Something you've been talking about for a while and man, ball's rolling. Yeah, it's official now, man. It's official. I have no life for the next three years. I don't.
01:01:31
Speaker
I'm like trying to figure out what to do and how I'm going to fit everything in, but it is, it'll, I'm pumped, man. Like I haven't, you know, I'm in retail, right? And this is a terrible time to be in retail right before Christmas. Uh, like I've, I've mentioned before, I'm working at the corporate office for a pretty decent sized retail company in the New England area. We've expanded out of New England at this point, but I, you know, I took the job a few years ago.
01:02:01
Speaker
I was really excited about it because I was in another retail job. It was just a smaller company. I was managing a fulfillment office. I was very excited when I took this job because it felt like the next step in a career. Maybe I can really build upon this, find myself in a place that I really love. Then after doing operations in a corporate setting,
01:02:27
Speaker
for the past few years, I realized that it's fine. I really don't hate my job. It's ultimately a pretty good job, but there's no fulfillment in it at all for me. There's no satisfaction. You're working on a project and it's done and people are happy with it. There's a sort of fulfillment there because I just generally take pride in my work and it matters to me to do a good job.
01:02:57
Speaker
The work itself really has little meaning to me. I don't feel like I'm working towards something that I can really get behind. Anyone who's listened to this has probably heard me joke about capitalism enough to know that it does feel weird to work for a retail company whose entire job it is to put knickknacks in people's homes so I can get a paycheck that are ultimately going to end up in a landfill somewhere. It's just not
Community Building and Gratitude
01:03:22
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It's not for me, it's all. And I know a lot of people love the work and find meaning in it and that's great in it, but I don't. And it was funny, I had mentioned to my boss finally that I was going back to school and her response was like, so I guess you don't love retail. And I was like, nope, I don't. Surprise. It's just not, I don't, I guess.
01:03:45
Speaker
It's weird when you tell them that because it's like now you're like, there's like this admission that I don't like this and I'm going to pay a lot of money out. Oh man. Well, yeah, it's going to be an interesting year. We got a bunch of cool guests that we're talking to and have lined up and stuff.
01:04:11
Speaker
I don't know. We've got a few different things up our sleep, but overall, it's been – this has been a ton of fun and I feel like we've met a lot of people that probably would have never had contact with or gotten to hear much from otherwise.
01:04:30
Speaker
I don't know it's just been a good experience and on a personal level I feel like I understand a little more about my feelings on different things and
01:04:45
Speaker
Um, I have a new appreciation for some of the stuff that other people went through, you know, when you start. Yeah. Wallowing in self-pity and you realize like other people went through conversion therapy and real things like new girls like me, you know, and you got blown out a thousand to 10 and a basketball game. That was awful. Yeah, that still stings. It's almost worse than conversion therapy.
01:05:13
Speaker
It's really cool though and really appreciate you guys tuning in and listening every week and letting us know your thoughts. For those of you that have rated and reviewed us on iTunes and stuff, we really appreciate that. Everybody that's in the Discord.
01:05:31
Speaker
We're going to be reorganizing that a little bit and changing some things up. But I don't know, just met a lot of really cool people through all of those different mediums. And it's fun. I'm excited to go into another year. Yeah, no, me too, man. We've met, like you said, tons of cool people, I think.
01:05:52
Speaker
This has been very, it's been personally fulfilling for me in a lot of ways to have this outlet and to be able to talk to people about their experiences and hear where they're coming from. And we're looking towards
01:06:05
Speaker
The whole new, I don't know, it's weird to even think of this as a mark, like the way that marks the end of the year for us. It kind of closes out a chapter and that, you know, going forward next year, the type of guests we're going to get, who we're going to talk to, I'm very excited. We don't have a, we got a few lined up for so far, but you kind of do this month by month, right? And you reach out to a bunch of people, you hear back from some,
01:06:32
Speaker
It's always exciting to see. What I've noticed is that some of the people that you don't expect much out of, you don't have much expectations. It's not that you don't expect it to be good, but you don't know much about them. The expectations are open. You don't really know what you're in for. Some of those have been some of the funnest, most incredible conversations we've had. Then you hit the stop button and you stay on and talk to them for another hour about life and
01:07:03
Speaker
It's always a surprise and I love that. You might, you check in with people before you hit record, right? And then you hit record and then.
01:07:13
Speaker
the tone changes. Right now you're in interview mode and you almost have to like warm up again with everybody. And some people hit that stride instantly. And it's just it's such a fun ride for me. I just having those varying experiences with different people and never really knowing what to expect until you get on the call with them is rewarding and it's fun. So I'm pumped to see what
01:07:41
Speaker
Where this thing goes next year, man, who knows? Maybe we'll pick up a few more sponsors. Shout out to Captain Cecil's. We're going to shout him out.
Sponsorship and Closing Remarks
01:07:51
Speaker
If you haven't bought any coffee from Captain Cecil's, you're missing out. I bought a lot of Christmas gifts from Captain Cecil's. Yeah. You got until Christmas to use the growing up Christian for 20% off, right? Yeah. It's a good ass deal. And then at 50 bucks you get free shipping. So it's,
01:08:08
Speaker
You can snag some last minute Christmas gifts for people. I mean, it's great to throw on. Yeah. I mean, I got plenty of people gifts and I'm also throwing in a bag of coffee because I think it's worth it. And that covers the weed smell in the pack. Exactly. All right. I guess we close this out now. Yeah.
01:08:29
Speaker
Thank you for listening, man. And we're looking forward to another big year of growing up Christian. Yep. All right. Thanks for listening, guys. We'll talk to you later.