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Han Took Shots First Ep 23 - The Mandalorian Ch 5: The Gunslinger image

Han Took Shots First Ep 23 - The Mandalorian Ch 5: The Gunslinger

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In Chapter 5 of The Mandalorian, Mando makes an emergency landing on Tatooine after his ship takes damage during a dogfight. To pay for repairs, he teams up with an overconfident rookie bounty hunter named Toro Calican to track down the elusive assassin Fennec Shand, played by the great Ming Na-Wen. The plan goes sideways when Toro double-crosses everyone, proving he's more amateur than ambitious. In the end, Mando takes him out, gets his ship fixed, and leaves behind another mess... along with a mysterious figure who arrives at Fennec’s body.

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Introduction to The Mandalorian Chapter 5

00:00:03
Speaker
Oh
00:00:37
Speaker
Welcome back for chapter five of The Mandalorian, The Gunslinger. I'm Derek. I'm Jack. And this is Han Took Shots First. Ooh. Tink. Clink.
00:00:51
Speaker
See, at least one of us is following the rules. You're taking shots. I'm over here drinking beer. Yeah, but most of your beers are as strong as a tequila. That's fair. It's not fair. This one's only 7%.
00:01:04
Speaker
A little session for you. Just a little baby bear. Just something for the kinder.

George Lucas' Star Wars Elements

00:01:11
Speaker
This one is written and directed by Dave Filoni.
00:01:15
Speaker
ah True. Because I saw that Jon Favreau was still credited, but then it just said created by. Yeah. I mean, he's the showrunner. Yeah. So, I mean, I think anything. Sorry. Anything to that has Mandalorian in the properties.
00:01:28
Speaker
partly his now yeah i mean it's like how everything that has everything that star wars under writer always says george lucas you know even though he's only written four things for star wars um check the notebook
00:01:44
Speaker
i had a really good idea in 1967 when i was in elementary school or however old i am i don't know hey sharon get my notebook my unicorn notebook with my notes and It would be about how this guy in armor finds a baby, but like the baby looks like this old guy you already knew, but he's a baby. And then he went on adventures and fought spiders and stuff.
00:02:06
Speaker
Do you want to hear something really cool that I just found out that George Lucas actually did kind of have planned out? Somebody asked him about C-3PO, and he goes, no, he was put together by a ah poor farm boy.
00:02:19
Speaker
like he was it was thrown out refuse that a poor farm boy and Tatooine found and put together. And it was everything like he never said Anakin, but everything else lined up like but so he at least had that part figured out.
00:02:36
Speaker
Okay. And I mean, I guess it kind of connects because No matter how stupid I think it is that Anakin built C-3PO, and I do think it's stupid. But he didn't build it from scratch is the cool thing that I've found.
00:02:47
Speaker
But I like, it does make sense because it's like, since he was all midichlorian-y, when he was working on C-3PO, maybe some of his midichlorians leaked into him, and that's why he's always attached to all these fucking adventures and shit. He's just part of their, like, their group.
00:03:03
Speaker
The Force loves a fool. Yeah, they're attached to each other via midichlorians. Mm-hmm. Which just also sounds like a venereal disease, like last episode, the AT-STD.

Episode Air Date and Expectations

00:03:13
Speaker
Oh, dude, if you don't get if you get an AT-ST and you don't clear it up you're going to get midichlorians.
00:03:19
Speaker
Well, this episode originally aired December 6, 2019, and when I saw the title, I was like, fucking sweet, Timothy Oliphant's going to be in this one. No, no, no. Different gunslinger.
00:03:30
Speaker
He's in Boba Fett. Well, he's also in Mando. Yeah. Oh, that's right. He gets introduced to Mando because he's wearing the Cobb Vanth refrigeration armor. Yeah. But that's season two.
00:03:42
Speaker
See, I don't remember. i like i just was like, oh, cool. This is that one. It's not. But we do get... ah By the way, Fennec Shand. We're just going to go to all spoilers, right?
00:03:55
Speaker
We're not trying to fucking save anything? Cool. No. If the if this was airing week to week, maybe, but not now.

Fennec Shand's Character Introduction

00:04:02
Speaker
Cool. But this is Fennec Shand, who is the equally sexy and equally cool to Timothy Olyphant, Ming-Na Wen.
00:04:11
Speaker
You know she's like 60 years old right here? In this? Like, seriously seriously, look up her age right now. that She is, and I'm not trying to, like, just sexualize her because she's looking great. She is doing some fucking stunts.
00:04:24
Speaker
You know, maybe not in this one so much, but as this show progresses, she is just fucking fit as a fiddle. ah She's only, like, 56. Oh, shit. Sorry. sixty one She's 61 right now.
00:04:37
Speaker
Okay. I was watching this and like you know i i I knew right away which one it was once it actually got started. But like she shows up and I'm like, God, she is a gorgeous woman.
00:04:48
Speaker
Gorgeous. Gorgeous. She's old enough to be my mom. Yeah, she's sexy enough to be my mommy. um the The first thing I got introduced to her to me was the show Single Guy with Jonathan Silverman.
00:05:02
Speaker
Go back and look, and she does not change much. ah we like Whatever workout regimen she's doing, sign everybody else up. Not me. I don't want to live long. But like sign everybody else up for that and keep it toit.
00:05:13
Speaker
Well, watched her in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. She plays Agent Ray. that's right. She's the cavalry. And she looks exactly the same here as she did in that. And that started, I mean, it wasn't that as big of a difference what you're saying. 10 to 12 years ago? That started in 2008.
00:05:30
Speaker
12. Yeah. So it was nine years, seven years before this. So it's not that big a difference, but that started because it started right after the Avengers came out. So you're saying she's in her late forties in agents of shield.
00:05:42
Speaker
Yeah. And still just like whooping ass. And then here she is 56 and then look her up to this day at 61 and good God, Wilford Brimley at 40 was in cocoon trying to fucking find a new way to live.

Space Battle and Mando's Skills

00:05:55
Speaker
He wasn't 40 in Cocoon, but you know, I was telling somebody about your your thing about Wilford Brimley and ah the Paul Rudd the the other day yesterday at work because he was it was my friend. It was my friend Patrick who used to be on Bad Movies, Worst People with me.
00:06:11
Speaker
I spent 20 years trying to tell this motherfucker to drink water ah and he just didn't drink water. He drank soda and alcohol and that was all he drank. Now he works for the place. Now he works for the post office and he has to drink water because it's a thousand degrees outside.
00:06:24
Speaker
But like I told him, I was like, if you don't drink water, you're going to end up like Wilford Brimley. If you do drink water, you can end up like Paul Rudd. That's the big difference. I mean, there's other stuff, but between people back in the 70s and 80s, how we think like, oh, look at that Grampy. And he's like 42. Yeah.
00:06:39
Speaker
It's because nobody drank water back then. That's a big thing. We've talked about this as little bit of a tangent, but it's fine. yeah this This generation now, like everyone brings water jugs everywhere they fucking go.
00:06:51
Speaker
When I was first 21, you drank a bunch of water before you left the house. then you Yeah, I got my big fucking jug right here. like you left water You drank a bunch of water before you left the house. You went to a bar and exclusively didn't drink water.
00:07:02
Speaker
Like that was your whole point was drink everything in your fucking side site besides water. And then you go home, drink a little bit more, pass out and wake up in the middle of night with that lifesaving water. That was the routine.
00:07:15
Speaker
But now it's like, hey, we're going to a bar, babe, grab your fucking Yeti. And that's what people tell my girlfriend we're leaving. Hey, grab your Yeti. And it turns out. You can drink water while you're drinking alcohol all night and still wake up and have life-saving water in the middle of the night You can do it both. You can do it all.
00:07:33
Speaker
ah Crazy. Water while drinking? That's insane. but So this episode starts 12 minutes in with Mando being pursued by a bounty hunter ah who tries to pull a Mando on him.
00:07:48
Speaker
He's like, because it's in space. He's being chased and he's the ship it almost looks like the precursor to the X-Wing, the headhunter, but I couldn't get a good look at it. I got X-Wing vibes because also his helmet and his whole like rig inside, it looks like he's in the X-Wing cabin. I think it's the Z95 Headhunter. It's basically an X-Wing with two wings.
00:08:09
Speaker
But okay cockpit, fuselage, everything else is pretty much the same. Not specs-wise, mind you, but just looks. And I don't know if this is that, but it is that thinner, fixed-wing, single-pilot Starfighter.
00:08:23
Speaker
You know, so kind of like what Obi-Wan and Anakin are flying around in um theirs was closer to the a wing or the yeah, there's there's just closer to the a wing.
00:08:34
Speaker
Okay. But this I mean, this is meant for just dogfights exclusively. And I think like having the rebel or old old rebel looking stuff makes sense.
00:08:44
Speaker
All this would have been a discount, dude. you know a New Republic came in and got rid of almost all the army. So it's like, cool, I'll i'll take that helmet, that mask. Is that a fucking headhunter? I'll take that.
00:08:55
Speaker
When this guy tries to be like Mando, he says to him over the comms, I can bring you in warm or I can bring you in cold. But it's so it's like, hey, I can bring you in warm or I can bring you cold. Your choice, buddy. It's not that Pedro Pascal.
00:09:09
Speaker
I can bring you in warm. I can bring you in cold. Hey, um i can you can come in warm or cold, or you can come in out of the cold. Oh, God. Although if you are in cold, I do have a jacket. I can warm you up.
00:09:22
Speaker
Come over here. Let's put our thighs together. But Mando does the fucking like but Iron Man hard break thing to get behind him. Excuse me. It's Top Gun. It's Top Gun first, my friend.
00:09:34
Speaker
But this is Disney, okay? Disney doesn't own Top Gun yet. Yet. yet They never will. Tom Cruise is over there fighting it off with Scientology in one hand and staunch heterosexuality in the other hand.
00:09:46
Speaker
Well, wait until they get Mickey converted to Scientology and it's all over. Oh, man, my soul was frozen in a volcano. knew there was a fucking alien, man.
00:09:57
Speaker
Z-new's coming. My whole life, I felt like there was something inside of me trying to get out.
00:10:05
Speaker
But yeah, he does the the quick hard break, gets behind him. That's my line. Blammo. Blammo. Your spaceship is dead. And I always love, and I'll appreciate it for the rest of my life, all the way back to like your 80s action movies and stuff, a one-liner to someone you're about to murder...
00:10:23
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Like, it's a one-liner that no one can appreciate. This little baby that you're hanging out with doesn't speak English. That we know of. Yeah, that's fair. It might understand it but still. nobody else can hear what's happening, and just like,

Landing on Tatooine and Nostalgia

00:10:35
Speaker
that's my line. And the guy's like, what?
00:10:38
Speaker
You're saying you don't say things like this to your fucking dinner plate when you're at home drunk all alone? You don't look and take the chicken? I'm going to take a bite out of crime. I have gotten really drunk, made food, looked at it, been unsure if I could eat it, and said...
00:10:52
Speaker
I'm taking you in warm or I'm taking you in cold. i I made some chicken that was so delicious. I said, this chicken should be so should be considered illegal and I'm going to take a bite out of crime.
00:11:04
Speaker
And then I ate the chicken.
00:11:08
Speaker
So he goes to Tatooine because his shit's all fucked up. I meant to say his ship, but. Oh, your shit's all fucked up and you're wanted by the law. And you talk like a Mando.
00:11:20
Speaker
Dude, your shit's all fucked up. And, you know, we see the planet and it's just it yeah kind of looks like Tatooine. If you've seen Tatooine from space in yeah in a movie, obviously not.
00:11:31
Speaker
I've never seen Tatooine from space. But like it's a dream. We know for sure because he calls in and the guys like ah most nicely landing tower. And I'm like, well, thanks for letting us know. Mals Eisley definitely Tatooine here.
00:11:46
Speaker
Hi, thanks for calling Tatooine. Used to be the home of Anakin Skywalker, known as Vader in other parts of the timeline. ah Luke also from here. um It's like ah but Ace Ventura, the first one there, Ace Ventura Pet Detective, where they had all the signs outside the town that's like home of Ray Finkel.
00:12:05
Speaker
There's just billboards outside Tatooine, home of Darth Vader, and they're all dilapidated and right behind it, home of Luke Skywalker, hero of the rebellion. home of the uh well the one they wouldn't get rid of is home of the tuscan raider slaughter
00:12:21
Speaker
home of c3po nobody knows who that is who is 3po uh i'm quite just staying distinguished in this galaxy we don't know you we know that little astromech r2 he's cool You should have him at a party. He just has everything go off at once.
00:12:38
Speaker
Wow! Didn't I see you hanging out with R2-D2 once? You coattail-riding. we've been together for years. I'm the boss of this adventure. he can't even talk. He beeps and boops.
00:12:51
Speaker
Oh, where would he be without me? But we also he lands and we meet Amy Sedaris playing Pellimoto, who doesn't leave the show. I don't think she's in all three seasons, right?
00:13:03
Speaker
Yeah. And Boba. Yeah. Amy Sedaris from Strangers with Candy and a bunch of other stuff. Very funny. You talked about this and I meant to bring it up in the last episode ah with the guy that was ah that played Pillboy in ah The Good Place.
00:13:18
Speaker
This is another the the trend that you were talking about in episode one of comedians doing not necessarily comedic roles. She is pretty comedic in this. Like Palimodo is just funny. Yeah. But it's not her normal. Amy Sedaris is a fucking riot, in my opinion.
00:13:33
Speaker
So and they they she has her ah some funny moments here. But as the show goes on, she becomes comedic relief when she pops Uh huh. Yeah, she's fucking great. And there is a theory that she is the little girl from um ah Phantom Menace that was friends with Anakin.
00:13:51
Speaker
Oh, I remember you saying that probably on our episode about episode Probably. So, because later in this season or series rather, she will say like, I've never never left Tatooine. I've been here my entire life.
00:14:02
Speaker
The timing would match up. She's like, man, if I can get my hands on that Vader suit, I could soup it up for him. He could take that Emperor down no time, dude. Look, I know you're a space wizard, but I could make that outfit super wizard.
00:14:15
Speaker
i Super wizard. You have so much whiz. But i love the like the little little fucking beep boop droids from the prequels come up.
00:14:26
Speaker
The three Stooge bots. Yeah. And Mando just immediately shoots at them. He's like, no. Get the fuck away from my ship. And my droids. I don't trust their kind. Whoa, whoa.
00:14:40
Speaker
um So he he leaves the ship with her, goes walking through Mos Eisley. There's stormtrooper helmets on pikes. I'm assuming it's just the helmets, but hey, it's Mos Eisley. So you don't know.
00:14:51
Speaker
I mean, this was a fucking place that the the huts controlled, you know, like this ah this had they tolerated an imperial presence. So as soon as the emperor was dead, they're like, Let's get them the fuck out of here, dude. And much like you do with like a vampire, you cut its head off and you put in a pike to warn other vampires. Don't fucking start none.
00:15:13
Speaker
Ooh, how's that delicious fucking cold IPA? and This is so good. That's fucking one of the beers of the year.
00:15:23
Speaker
I'm jealous. Only because I drank all mine. um We do get Palimoto hanging out playing I don't know, some kind of game could be Sabacc, could be Pizoc with ah the droids.
00:15:38
Speaker
And like, there's like a monster roar that comes out of the ship. And I'm like, is that what it sounds like when baby Yoda takes a shit or like? it's just yawn. Because it's just like. you know what The one the droids even imitates it? Like, the fuck was that? You know't know what it reminded me of was episode four when Obi-Wan comes out all fucking trying to scare the raiders.
00:16:00
Speaker
Oh, yeah. He has a very similar... It's it's supposed to be, I think, the Krayt Dragon Shriek, like a lesser Krayt Dragon is what it's supposed to be. So, I mean, to me, I'm just like, Grogu just got the Force, dude. He doesn't know he's doing a Force yawn, but it's much like the Force roar that ah Palpatine gives out before he kills all those Jedi. Yeah.
00:16:21
Speaker
that cartoon thing? No. I don't remember him roaring. It's very subtle. It's in episode three in the throne room when they' theyre he's like, I am the Senate. They're like, we're going to take you in. And he's like, so treason it is and fucking pocket saber.
00:16:36
Speaker
And he goes and then does a spin at him. Oh, okay. For scream, I guess is what it's called. I know the scene you're talking about. I guess I just didn't realize that his vocal cords were powered. Well, if you listen it, I'm pretty sure that I told you that demoralizes opponents and it staggers You did. And that's why he was able to kill three Jedi Masters so easily.

Podcast Promotion and Patreon

00:16:54
Speaker
Look, Mace Windu's a bad motherfucker.
00:16:56
Speaker
I absorb a lot of the stuff you say on this, but you're going to have to excuse me for getting a lot of it. You didn't go back and listen to episode three. you didn't check out that force scream that he did to disarm his opponents and use a level nine charm on himself.
00:17:11
Speaker
I listened to it once while we recorded it. And once while I edited it. He barely listened when we recorded it. That's fair. I'm usually thinking about other things. I'm sorry. I was thinking about something else.
00:17:24
Speaker
Like, well, this beer's almost empty and I have no more beers. Like, that's usually my brain. bro. A lot of beers. Let's go to fucking Boston. Sam Adams Lager. I don't like to drink a lot of it.
00:17:35
Speaker
Because then I have to put a fucking log in my mouth. And that sounds kind of gay, dude. We have to get some Sam Adams. It's made in Boston. Wait, it's made in Ohio? Oh. Well, it says it's from Boston, so I'll take it.
00:17:45
Speaker
My whole fucking life is a lie. yeah He likes people in Ohio, trust me. I will. I will trust you. You know, because of his whole the the gest stop motion company that he's making there. Oh, yeah. Ohio Nazis, dude.
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Pellimoto's Debut and Grogu Interaction

00:19:27
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00:19:35
Speaker
Grogu comes out the The baby comes out The child And Pellimoto's like Oh shit Who's this little cute motherfucker And I like that she's like Tells the one of the droids She's like Go get him something to eat The droid's like what What would he eat She's like don't know Get something with bones like just I thought that was good. Kill something.
00:19:52
Speaker
Yeah, instinctually. She's like, i don't know. This fucking thing looks like it eats murder. I just make it die and it'll eat it. Little do you know, you don't have to make it die. Just give it a frog. got any those eggs back any little frog eggs back there?
00:20:07
Speaker
The more endangered it is, the more tasty it is. Oh, this entire species will so species cease to exist if we don't make it here with this tube of Oh, wait, never mind.

Toro Calican's Introduction and Ambitions

00:20:17
Speaker
ah So Mando gets to a cantina.
00:20:20
Speaker
Is this the titular cantina? I believe it is. It looks very similar, but it's a lot less full. I'm almost positive it is. And this is ah fucking ah Tor Loco, who I'm going to call him, just because that's my name on this.
00:20:34
Speaker
He's sitting where Han Solo is, because I remember being like, the fucking gall that you have to sit where Han Solo took shots first and out drank Greedo, as the legend confirms.
00:20:46
Speaker
Han took shots first and Han took shots last. Outdrank that Rodian. Toro Calican, played by Jake Cannavale. Yeah, you can take and leave him. he's He was in ah Nurse Jackie and he's in The Offer.
00:21:01
Speaker
Those are the two things I recognize. Oh, I did watch The Offer. I just think he's a weak point in this otherwise pretty good episode. I think he's supposed to be a weak point. like i love His acting isn't great, and that's obviously not intentional for on their part.
00:21:15
Speaker
But I think he's supposed to be like a shitty character because he's like he's a little tech bro that's basically like, I'm trying to be a bounty hunter now, bro. You guys going to help me or what? I understand that. He's a fucking, he's ah ah a, oh, what movie is it?
00:21:30
Speaker
<unk> um It's a mob movie with ah Joe Pesci where he kills Spider. Spider's supposed to be making drinks. Joe Pesci was in a mob movie? Yeah, I think he did one. Oh, okay. I think it was one. believe... Oh, it was Home Alone. He's a mobster, he's got gold tooth. Okay, I was to say, only did those two Home Alone movies. Yeah, well, Home Alone 2, he's a reformed mobster, so...
00:21:55
Speaker
And also the the where my name comes from, also this scene, the bartender who is apparently EV99. Droids are allowed in this bar now, dude. Yeah.
00:22:05
Speaker
Well, maybe that's why that's why I wasn't sure it was the same bar because now a droid is the bartender. I think dude died. Maybe that other dude was just like, don't serve their kind during my shift. ah They got on the email and was like, I tried to frequent your establishment. I tried to patronize you. Patronize?
00:22:24
Speaker
Yeah. Patronage? Patronize. I tried to give your business some money, um some cold hard credits, and the server was very rude and said that my droid wasn't

Mark Hamill's Secret Role and Career

00:22:33
Speaker
allowed in. Is this your policy as a restaurant and a chain?
00:22:36
Speaker
I believe that we have frequented Chili's all across the galaxy, and the one in Mos Eisley is definitely the worst Chili's in the galaxy. Yeah. We'll not be returning. You will find us at Space Waffle House where Dexter Jester is going to cook us some greasy, greasy biscuits and gravy.
00:22:53
Speaker
One star. He is voiced by Mark Hamill. He is, definitely. didn't once Once I read that, I was like, okay, I can see it. Because he's like, what does he say?
00:23:05
Speaker
There's no guild worker. Guild's not around here. And he's like, I'm not i'm looking i'm not looking for guild jobs. I want any jobs. It doesn't improve your circumstances. Yeah. And I could just once I read that it was Mark Hamill, I was like, oh, I could hear it.
00:23:18
Speaker
So obviously he's modulated and obviously Mark Hamill has done a shitload of voice work, too. So something that I heard is that they put Mark Hamill in this because they already knew they were going to have him show up in season two.
00:23:32
Speaker
And this would help put him on the call sheet so nobody questioned. Because he was on set. i know they replaced him completely with a fucking computer. They had him, and maybe they did just this for themselves and to make Mark feel better.
00:23:46
Speaker
They had him dress in his garb that the guy was wearing the same outfit that we see. And they had him block the scene out. They had him open the elevator. And he's like, this is how I would do it. This is how I would stand.
00:23:58
Speaker
you know And this is how I'd walk out of the elevator. so ah You use it as a reference, I guess. Yeah. Right. But that was only seen by the minimum amount of people because they didn't want to spoil the big fucking surprise.
00:24:10
Speaker
So now you have, because who they said it was going to be, Dave Filoni said it was going to be, oh, Plo Koon. That's what why he was saying. like, hey don't tell anybody. It's going to Plo Koon that's going to be here.
00:24:21
Speaker
That's who's going to come with Grover. We're jumping way ahead, but... Yeah, it was just to try and keep some secrecy, but also I think just like, let's give Mark Hamill some fucking work. Not that he needs it, but like, this is Star Wars.
00:24:32
Speaker
Let's get him in here. I mean, i guess at this point, maybe he didn't need it as much. There were definitely points where he needed it Yeah, I think he's got a pretty healthy ah voice acting career ever since Batman animated series.
00:24:46
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, if you go back, well, you'd have to join our Patreon at patreon.com slash worst people. But one of the first episodes of Bad Movies, Worst People, I did a movie called Slipstream that stars, actually stars, not like one of those movies that says it stars, but he's in one scene.
00:25:04
Speaker
Right. Stars Mark Hamill and...
00:25:09
Speaker
Gary Busey, William Forsyth, Lance Hendrickson, Bill Paxton. You're getting so close. Bill Paxton. It's Bill Paxton. Thank you. I'm getting there. It stars Mark Hamill. got it in five. you said You said Lance Hendrickson, and I was like, oh, you're so close.
00:25:26
Speaker
They were both in an alien movie. That was like us having sex. Oh, you're right there. You're right there. Keep going. they were also both the only people killed on screen by an alien and a Terminator.
00:25:38
Speaker
And something else. but um Predator. Predator. Yes. Thank you. But it's Bill Paxton and Mark Hamill. And I was like, there's no way this can be that bad. I was wrong. It was that bad.

Fennec Shand's Reputation and Mando's Barter

00:25:51
Speaker
Yeah. I also have another movie on DVD, i like a straight bootleg DVD because nobody cared about it after it came out, called Time Runner, but also so stars Mark Hamill. Bleep sent me that photo of of a cover photo the other day. like, you ever heard of this? I'm like, nope.
00:26:06
Speaker
Yeah, I got it on DVD. Of course you do. From the same place that I got Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Fantastic Four 1994 movie. All right. I like this company. Yeah. They're not a company. They don't exist.
00:26:20
Speaker
I like this phantom thing. But yes. So Toro Calican has a bounty puck for Fennec Shand. He wants Mando's help.
00:26:31
Speaker
Mando's like, hey, cool. You go out there for her. You're going to die. She's a master fucking assassin. She made her name by working for all the cartels, including the Hutts. You see some of that in the cartoon and Bad Batch at least.
00:26:45
Speaker
because it would have been after they introduced her here, right? Was she already a character? No, no. This is her introducing. Okay. Introduction, I mean. And then later they were like, well, put her in the Bad Batch because we can figure out that timeline.
00:26:57
Speaker
I mean, she's fucking 56. It's a lot of Star Wars time. um I do like because he starts with like, do you ah how long have you been with the guild? And the got kid's like, long enough. And he's like, well, obviously not that long because you would know she's a straight up murderer.
00:27:12
Speaker
And he's like, okay, it's ah straight straight sauce here. This is my first bounty and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. So can you please help me? You can have all the money. I just want to get into the guild. I just want all the credit.
00:27:26
Speaker
Oh, it did it's just like i g it the very fucking first episode. Well, in this case, though, at this point, Mando's like, I don't need any any more credit. Thank you. I don't want you to tell the guild. Yeah, i don't want you to tell the guild that I did this with you.
00:27:38
Speaker
Yeah, that's another reason. Maybe that he was asking how long you've been with the guild. Like, do you know about the bounty on me? Yeah. Yeah, that would make it seem like you do because he doesn't.
00:27:50
Speaker
So they team up, they head out on their speeders, looking for Fennec Shand. ah They do run into some Tusken Raiders. ah It's really, really funny.
00:28:00
Speaker
that When he's on the binocs? Yeah, he's looking out. You tell those filthy fucking Tusken Raiders to keep away from me. Tell them yourself. What do you mean? oh Because they're sneaky.
00:28:14
Speaker
Sneaky. I'm very, very sneaky. Please let me change your socks. I think you underestimate our sneakiness. And like Mando's like negotiating with them using their like sign language. he's like they had somebody They had somebody fluent in ASL that was a staff member work on this with them.
00:28:31
Speaker
Oh, okay. like I think it was somebody that was just on the camera crew or something. Someone that knew ASL. They talk about it more in the Boba Fett behind the scenes so because you get more of that... communication There's some special features on this ah on the disc because I have the Mandalorian one season one, two and three on the 4K discs they put out.
00:28:51
Speaker
like I don't know if it's all the same shit that's on Disney Plus, though. Disney Plus only had features only had the Mandalorian roundtable for. Well, season one had one for each episode. That's what it is. And then season two and three just had like a quick little blip.
00:29:07
Speaker
Yeah, they're like their general behind-the-scenes thing they do for all their original shows. Yeah. Yeah, because there's a couple things on there, and I was i wanted to watch them, but... My planning fell through and I ended up watching these right before we recorded. Yeah, it's all right.
00:29:21
Speaker
It's not the last time we're going watch these, dude. Just in general. he He does the negotiations and he's like, hey, let me let me see

Fennec Shand's Ambush and Capture

00:29:28
Speaker
your binoculars real quick. and the kid's like, what, these? And he's like, yeah, cool. Here, have these.
00:29:32
Speaker
just gives them to the Tuskens. And they he's like, those are fucking new. Those were brand new point of order, though. He calls them binocs because yeah binoculars don't exist in Star Wars. how about binocs?
00:29:42
Speaker
OK. Yeah. They want to make the stuff they're shoving in their face sound of as most like Minoc as they can. Put that Binoc on your face. Oh, my God. He has Binocs on his face. Did you say Binocs? No, I said Minocs.
00:29:55
Speaker
Get a gun. i know That's a bad way to get Minocs off somebody's face. Got him. Oh, no, no. I got him. Whoops. Well, the Minocs dead, too.
00:30:07
Speaker
I took shots first. so if they do that so so they can negotiate passage through their territory because mando is smart he knows all about how all this fucking shit in this world works or this yeah galaxy works but i also think the big thing that we needed behind the scenes wise is pay homage to those old cowboy movies where everybody's you know using racial slur everybody in town using racial slurs and like trying to kill native americans and you got that one cowboy who's like I communicate with the indigenous people. So that's why I'm allowed to travel to their land. Cause I treat them like people.
00:30:41
Speaker
That's, that's the vibe I get from this. Yeah, I guess that makes sense because this one's when he gets to Mos Eisley at the beginning when he walks out into town and obviously it's meant to be that way, but it's very Western like walking out into this town that you just arrived in.
00:30:58
Speaker
Yeah, like everything's covered in dust. And I mean, he's been the man with no name. You you made that episode one kind of thing, you know, and he's continued to be the man with no name. And this is a perfect little addition to his character in my mind.
00:31:12
Speaker
but So they they keep trucking along and they encounter a dewback, which will never not sound like a slur. Yeah. I think it's because of South Park.
00:31:23
Speaker
Uh-huh. Because they have the time traveling thing. they like the Oh, the goobacks. Mm-hmm. It also just does sound... I mean, we we live in a place where the word back is not always going to be with the best word.
00:31:35
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. but it's still got the writer attached. And I love that like Toro is like, Oh, that must be her. She's dead, right? She did job done. like Let's go home Fucking stupid. Yeah, no, she's hanging off that thing dead. Nobody claimed it. like And he just told you how much of a master assassin is she is. And now she's just getting dragged around by her fucking do back.
00:31:53
Speaker
Yeah, so Mando goes to check it out, but it's a trap. And ah she's up in the hills sniping people because this is another bounty hunter who came looking for uhu And luckily luckily for Mando, he upgraded his armor before he started this quest.
00:32:09
Speaker
He would have been dead, dude, because he even says, like, at this range, Beskar held up, implying that there is a range it wouldn't have held up. Yeah, against, like, this caliber or power. something something. Yeah.
00:32:22
Speaker
And I love that he's like, she hit me in the Beskar and held up, and Toro's like, I don't wear Beskar. He's just like, nope. Mm-hmm. You sure don't. So go ahead and walk out there, and I'll be right behind you. Yeah.
00:32:36
Speaker
And another reference back to earlier days of Star Wars. He's like, we're going to wait here. and the kid's like, shouldn't we just go for her now? What if she gets away? She's not going to go anywhere.
00:32:48
Speaker
She's got the high ground. Obi-Wan's fucking force ghost is wandering around Tatooine just crying to happy tears. Oh, they understand the importance of the high ground.
00:33:00
Speaker
Hello there. That's what he would say if he saw Ming-Na Wen. hello Hello there. Hello there. So we wait until night. I do really like Toro. Like when it gets dark, he goes over to Mando. He's like, hey, wake up, man.
00:33:14
Speaker
fucking start Let's do our shit. Mando doesn't move. So he starts doing his like quick draw thing at him. Like, wow. I thought he was going to go for the helmet because it's been a while since we saw this. I thought he was going to go for the helmet. and Mando's just going to have his fucking gun pulled like, ah but even better.
00:33:30
Speaker
He's just like, are you done? Yeah, I'm done. I'm done. I was just trying to wake you up. I definitely wasn't spinning my gun around like a weirdo. Wasn't doing that. How long have awake?
00:33:41
Speaker
wasn't trying to impress people who aren't here. Yeah. I wasn't trying to impress people that aren't here. You know how you use those one-liners while you're by yourself? I like to have fake gunfights by myself.
00:33:52
Speaker
It's only for me. pew, pew. Pew, pew. Pew, pew. Got him again. Pew, pew. Right in the heart. So the plan is... Ride the speeders at full speed to this ridge that she's hiding on.
00:34:04
Speaker
But they have these flashbang charge things that they use. Yeah. So we're going to use that to blind her scopes so she can't shoot us. It's good plan. Yeah. It doesn't work great, but it works pretty well.
00:34:17
Speaker
It works better than anything else would have, I think. Yeah. Because she's not sleeping. I don't think she's ever slept. No. Not since she joined the military. Yeah. The last time she slept was the night before she enlisted.
00:34:30
Speaker
I didn't fight for your army. king of the Hill. You said you served in the army, not your military.
00:34:40
Speaker
mean, she probably did some jobs for the separatists thinking about it just because the the Republic didn't use bounty hunters nearly as much. The CIS would have.
00:34:52
Speaker
Well, and we don't know. Maybe we learn later and I don't remember. We don't know much about her past other than like she's just a killer. She's a great assassin. I bet you there's comics about her now. She's such a popular character. If they didn't do ah comic featuring her or starring her, kind of a missed opportunity.
00:35:11
Speaker
I'd buy it. Yeah, just leaving money on the table. Check it out. Also, see what you can do about a ah cardboard cutout life size. But I remember the first time watching this because we saw her in the mask earlier, and that's all we saw in her helmet.
00:35:27
Speaker
It's got a mask. She's got like the little fucking visor. Yeah. When she gets the flashbang thing, she has to pull the helmet off because it's like the night vision goggles. You know, bright light happens. It's blinding.
00:35:39
Speaker
So she pulls off the helmet. And I remember the first time watching this. and I was like, holy shit, it's Agent May. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's Agent May. It's Agent May. Mando's not making it past this episode.
00:35:50
Speaker
Oh, he's dead. so So she's going to put on the armor. She becomes the Mando. I thought that I was having not ah thought a discussion I was having.

Mandalorian Identity Discussion

00:36:00
Speaker
my This show got my brother so fucking hooked in into Star Wars, re-hooked.
00:36:05
Speaker
you know he like He never liked the original trilogy. I might have talked about it before. My brother used to make fun of me for being a nerd, and it was Iron Man that changed that. like He called me after seeing Iron Man. He's like, bro, I get it. He's like, I'm going to go buy all the Iron Man comics I can.
00:36:19
Speaker
i fucking love this shit. So since then, his you know little kids come out. And with this show, he was just like, we were spitballing fucking theories back and forth. And one of the things we said was, what if Mandalorian isn't him? It's like, it could be something this Mandalorian dies and another fucking Mandalorian takes his place.
00:36:37
Speaker
It obviously didn't happen that way, but that would have cool concept because it's like, I don't know if he's going to make it. Yeah, and it doesn't matter who's behind it as long as it's the same armor because people yeah see that and know that armor.

Ming-Na Wen's Influence and Canceled Series

00:36:50
Speaker
Especially once he has the once he gets the Mudhorn Sigil on there. yeah Oh, the signet, yeah. Ming-Na Wen's there, and like again, I was super excited. I'm one of the few people, my wife and I watched all of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
00:37:04
Speaker
I think I just the last season. And i the...
00:37:09
Speaker
I can't remember. Maybe I didn't. The last season was OK. The third or fourth season, they changed the format of the show a bit. And it became like because ah the first couple, the first one, they were trying to really tie it into the movies.
00:37:24
Speaker
So it would take like really long breaks because it'd be like, well, we can't tell this story until this movie comes out. Yeah, I think it's really annoying. um i was I don't remember if it was the third or fourth season. think it's the fourth where they they changed the format and they kind of had like three small seasons. They were still doing the 22 episode thing because it was an ABC show. But just the blocks of them were like a big chunk of story.
00:37:45
Speaker
Yeah, it was like seven or 24 episodes because it was like seven episodes that were one story, seven episodes that were a completely another story, and seven more episodes that were a completely other story. Then the last three were kind of like a movie that tied all that together.
00:37:59
Speaker
And like brought all the threads from everything. I remember that. And it was that was the season where they introduced Ghost Rider and they did all that before they started time traveling and everything. Yeah. But like it was.
00:38:13
Speaker
we We both liked it. We watched it. But at that point it went from being like this show's fine and I'm going to watch it because I like Marvel shit to being like this show fucking rocks. Yeah, okay. and And she was a big part of the reason the show was awesome. was like I remember they lost. We'll get back to it real quick. But I remember when they wrote off the two people. ah Oh, I can't remember her name. She's in John Wick, Adriana something. Yeah. and then the guy who ended up. Mockingbird and and little short guy.
00:38:40
Speaker
Yeah, he ended up being in Andor. Yeah. Season one, i but I want to say. Yeah. Like they wrote them off the show because they were supposed to get their own spinoff. Then it got canceled. And it's like, well, could have brought them back. They're really cool part.
00:38:54
Speaker
Yeah. Now it was supposed to be Marvel's most wanted. And that would have been. Yeah. Could have could have been a cool show. I'm not going say would have been, but it could have been cool.

Fennec's Deception and Toro's Betrayal

00:39:02
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. What is her name? It doesn't matter.
00:39:05
Speaker
Adriana Pacheco. Yeah, see, every time we say Adriana, then I think Adrienne Barbeau, and I'm like, well, that's wrong. she's She was much older at that point.
00:39:17
Speaker
Oh, yeah. She might have been dead. I don't know if she's even still alive. Oh, I don't know. i was going to make a boob joke, and I don't feel like it. But John Carpenter's ex-wife. Oh. go Go see her in the fog. Nothing to do with what we're talking about.
00:39:31
Speaker
So, yeah, he gets he gets Mando gets shot off of his fucking speeder. And she's focusing on him because I think she's just kind of like pissed. She's like, i keep fucking shooting this guy and he keeps getting up.
00:39:42
Speaker
I think she also knows like he's the fucking threat. Yeah. Tor Loco is a fucking idiot. This guy that looks like he might still be a member for of a fraternity can wait till I'm ready.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah But he sneaks up Toro sneaks up on her While she's trying to target Mando And they get into a fight And I really like Like Mando sits up In the middle of the desert Sees their laser blasts And shit happening But he sits up And there's just smoke Coming from every part of his body Fuck yeah It hit the armor And it didn't kill him But it obviously The heat or the energy Transferred through Dissipated Yeah It's ah it's ah it's a hot to pocket Yeah I mean, it's like a bulletproof vest in this day and age. It's not painless.
00:40:29
Speaker
Like you yeah you live, but you still get all that kinetic energy. And then when she's about to beat him in the fight about to beat Toro, then Mando shows up and he's like, hey, nice distraction.
00:40:42
Speaker
He's got his gun out. He's ready. He's like, fuck. yeah Yeah, that's what I was doing. I wasn't getting my ass kicked by a chick or nothing. I was just distracting.
00:40:52
Speaker
And it was when we'd find out Fennec knows a little bit about Mando because she's like, hey, you ever been to Navarro? He's like, what? No, can't say I have. Not a big fan of Jane's addiction. He just gets all Jango fit.
00:41:06
Speaker
I'm all the pest through once or twice.
00:41:10
Speaker
Just a simple man trying to make his way to this galaxy. And I get out to the speeders and she's like, oh, no, looks like someone's going to have to walk. I like Mando's thing like, you we could drag you.
00:41:21
Speaker
so why don't you shut the fuck up? Keep you going. Keep talking. That's it. Now we're going to drag you. So he goes off to find the do back because little fucking tech bro boy is too, too much of a pussy to go look for it.
00:41:36
Speaker
Well, he's just like, no fuck. You you know what's going to happen. I'm going to go get the do back and you're goingnna ride off with my bounty. Which still doesn't make sense. She can't. She's not going to drive the speeder with you. Like, that's what didn't make sense about the one of us has to walk. I'm like, no, you're going to have to throw her on someone else's speeder. It's not like she's going to jump on and be like, cool, I'll go with you because I'm in cuffs. No, no, no. That's what i think. It's like that he thinks Mando's going to like get on the speeder and throw her over the back of it.
00:42:03
Speaker
Well, that yeah, but that's what I'm saying is like she said someone has to walk. I'm like, no, you have two speeders, two people who aren't prisoners and one who is throw a prisoner over the back of one and get out of here. and We can avoid all this.
00:42:16
Speaker
But didn't avoid her psychological mind games. Yeah. Oh, did they did she take out Mando's speeder? I think so. That might be what it was. And maybe that's why he was smoking.
00:42:28
Speaker
All right. That makes sense. I didn't think about that. I was just like, yeah, that's why he wants to get to do back. but So Mando goes against the dewback again. She tries ah some reverse psychology on Toro.
00:42:42
Speaker
And since his mind is not strong, it works. She's like, she's telling, she's telling him about the man Mandalorian's bounty and like the whole story about the child and how he was a ah target that Mando took and whatever.

Final Showdown and Grogu's Rescue

00:42:57
Speaker
And she's like, you know, if you took him in, he's worth his his armor alone is worth more than I am. Plus, you get all the prestige and all this stuff. And he's like, that's a good fucking point.
00:43:07
Speaker
Blammo. Yeah. He just shoots her right in the stomach. He's like, thanks for all that, but ah as soon as I uncuff you, I'm a dead man, so he's at least that smart. Yeah. He's smart enough to know when people want to kill him. He's been dealing with that for years. I'm i'm pretty good at staying alive. i don't want to brag or nothing, but I have screwed over a lot of people.
00:43:26
Speaker
Most people I've met want to kill me. so Have you met me? Yeah. Want to kill me? Yeah. There you go. So he shoots her in the gut, leaves her for dead. And he takes off.
00:43:37
Speaker
And we have Mando showing up the next day, finds Fennec's body, and he's like, oh, man. Back on we go. Back in the saddle again.
00:43:49
Speaker
let's get Let's get going to Mos Espa. Mos Eisley. Mos Eisley. I thought Mos Espa was where Palimoto is at. Well, she here she's at Mos Eisley because it was Mos Eisley air traffic controller that called.
00:44:04
Speaker
Okay. Now, then again, I don't know. Maybe their air traffic control people had their budgets cut and it's just one guy at Mos Eisley that's controlling air traffic for Mos Espa. my There's so many ships coming in. I don't know who's a smuggler and who's supposed to be here. Oh, my God. Somebody help me.
00:44:19
Speaker
oh I'm all out of Revnog. We had the spaceman named Elon. He has a kid named X. That's how we know where they're from space. And he cut our budget. And it's just me controlling traffic for the entire planet.
00:44:32
Speaker
um Not

Mysterious Figure's Appearance and Speculation

00:44:33
Speaker
going well. Send help.
00:44:38
Speaker
um So he gets back to the docks. um Of course, Toro's waiting there. He's got the baby in his hands. He's got Pellimoto at gunpoint. And he's like, you know, bringing you in isn't just going to make me a member of the guild.
00:44:51
Speaker
It's going to make me a fucking legend, brah. Brah. Brah. I'm going to bring you in. Going to have some fucking punch. Do a fucking couple keg stands. You know, rip some fucking tubes. We're going to check out some chicks.
00:45:02
Speaker
You know, maybe grab some nugs. um I'll be sitting high and tight in Bounty Hunter hanging out on Navarro with fucking Carl Weathers. Kind of cool, dude. um we We've met playing lacrosse one year. Now we're going to go eat up on the pickleball court.
00:45:17
Speaker
I can bring you in sober or I can bring you in drunk. Drunk, please.
00:45:24
Speaker
It's almost always my fucking answer to that question. Mando has the flash charge thing hidden in his hand when he puts his hands up for Pelimoto to come and handcuff him. A lot smarter than you look.
00:45:35
Speaker
Yeah, you're smarter than you look, dude. Sets off the flash charge, kills this fucking guy. My notes change it to Toto, which is funny. I killed this guy down in Mos Eisley.
00:45:49
Speaker
Mando killed Toto. Speaking of episode six. That's right. That was last episode. but People remember a week ago, right? I hope. I don't.
00:46:01
Speaker
So and I like her thing at the end. She's like, oh, thanks for saving me. And, you know, I'm glad you're good. But like, take it you didn't get paid. And she's doing this like sad mopey thing. this this you shooting looks like you didn't get paid.
00:46:14
Speaker
He gives her all this money that he just took off. Like in this dude's body. He's like, I hope you take NFTs. And he dumps it in her hand. I've got some Bitcoin, some Dogecoin. This is fart coin. It's a thing.
00:46:28
Speaker
And he takes off into space. And we have one last thing. have a mysterious stranger who comes and finds Fennec Shand's body. And then we go to black.
00:46:39
Speaker
Do you hear the Spurs? No. So I remember this being a huge thing where, like I said with my brother, but it wasn't it wasn't just him. There was a lot of people reinvigorated by Star Wars that like, this is a great mystery.
00:46:54
Speaker
You know, who was this coming up? And almost everybody that I knew that's a big Star Wars fan, the Spurs, you can hear when Boba Fett walks around in other properties. I think it's episode six, maybe.
00:47:09
Speaker
Like he's always been associated with Spurs. Don't ask why. He doesn't have Spurs. Because he's a cowboy. But he's he's a cowboy, baby. um So that was instantly my thought. There was all kinds of other thoughts because we don't find out until much, much later.
00:47:23
Speaker
So other people were even wondering. They're like, oh, it could be because when and we don't find out until after Moff Gideon is is introduced. So people are like, it could be Moff Gideon recruiting her.
00:47:34
Speaker
Yeah, I remember I remember it happening because I remember thinking about it and talking about it, could who it could be. And i remember a lot of people thought a lot of people I talked to, which would be like you and other Star Wars people I know in person.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yeah. Had a thought that like, oh maybe it could. some Maybe they're going to bring Boa Fett in somehow. And it's like, but we don't. We haven't seen him and he's supposed to be dead. And I was like, yeah, who cares about that?
00:48:00
Speaker
Yeah. Last we hear because they could, they got rid of all the legends where he did survive. So it's like, we don't know if both, it was such a big deal to think Disney's going to revive Boba Fett. Yeah.
00:48:12
Speaker
Boy, my heart was a tick and a hard that day. And I do remember the the Moff Gideon talk and all of that. It's like, we don't know. Because how it's this season, but it's not until the very end, right?
00:48:24
Speaker
It could be next season. It's when Grogu reaches out with the Force on that stone. And this season ends with Moff Gideon um and the Darksaber.

Episode Wrap-up and Next Preview

00:48:36
Speaker
Which, whew, what a reveal that was. Yeah.
00:48:41
Speaker
Well, that's it for this episode of The Mandalorian. This chapter of the the opus of The Mandalorian. Oh, nice usage of the word opus. I'm sure it's incorrect somehow, but I'm a nice use of it. Yeah. I didn't say you were right.
00:48:58
Speaker
And ah tune in next week as we talk about Chapter 6, The Prisoner, which I definitely know which episode that is. And I love that episode. Is this the one we get a fucking Bostonian?
00:49:09
Speaker
Yeah, it's when Boston comes to space. I love it. And Clancy Brown. Oh, love it. And an appearance from a mouse droid. Derek loves it.
00:49:20
Speaker
So good. It's the best impersonation you do.
00:49:27
Speaker
I don't know. I feel insulted, but also complimented. You should be complimented. All right. That's it for this week. I've been Derek. I'm Jack. Oh
00:50:17
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