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It's Derrick's 40th birthday this month, so we're getting into some of his favorite genres and we kick it off this week with a lo-fi crime caper, Red Rock West! This neo-noir thriller stars Nicolas Cage as a down-on-his-luck drifter who stumbles into a small Wyoming town and is mistaken for a hitman hired to kill a local woman, played by Lara Flynn Boyle of Twin Peaks. Seizing the chance for easy money, he takes the cash but soon finds himself entangled in a web of deceit, murder, and double-crosses, especially when the real hitman (Dennis Hopper) shows up. What starts as a lucky break turns into a deadly chase across the desert where everyone’s lying, and no one’s getting out clean.

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Podcast Introduction and Birthday Celebration

00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome everybody to Bad Movies, Where's People? It's my birthday! Happy birthday, Birthday month. Actually, my birthday was yesterday. Yeah. he gets the whole He gets the whole month, though, because it's his 40th, so.
00:00:12
Speaker
Yeah, I'm getting older. Try again next year, Whitney. Oh, we will, because my birthday will be on a Monday.
00:00:21
Speaker
We can't watch Welcome to the Dollhouse again. oh I already know what I'm going to watch. But this week, we're watching a movie that I wanted everybody to watch because it's my birthday month. Woo! this week, m turkey.
00:00:33
Speaker
One of my favorites. I'm Derek. I'm Whitney. I'm Jack. And this is Bad Movies. Worst people.

Introduction to 'Red Rock West'

00:01:14
Speaker
We are back. We are here to talk today about 1993's Red Rock West. Woo! Never even heard of this movie.
00:01:26
Speaker
i' so last Supposedly I've seen it twice before. Last week I forgot to say where you could watch it, so if anybody wants to stop this and go watch it, ah let it play for five minutes and then do that. It's on Amazon and Apple. $4 to rent, $15 to buy. They don't have this cool special edition on Vinegar Syndrome anymore, but they do have a standard edition for like $27. It's a fun enough time. This is from 1993, and it was directed by John Dahl. Ooh.
00:01:54
Speaker
and it was directed by john dolll o You might be by as well, right? Yes. Written by Rick and John Dahl, which makes sense because they're the last week I had said it's a Tarantino ripoff.
00:02:09
Speaker
It's not. It's a Coen Brothers ripoff. Oh, yeah. But also Lynch. Well, it's a Lynch reunion. Yes. That's what makes you think Lynch. I think I don't think it feels Lynch. It's Coen Brothers is perfect.
00:02:22
Speaker
I couldn't think of it last night when I was watching. I was like, this is this is remnants of something. Well, this is 93. So it's after Reservoir Dogs, but it's before Pulp Fiction, which means it's before the like Tarantino knockoff 90s.
00:02:35
Speaker
Yeah. Like everybody was just making a Tarantino movie and nobody was doing it as well. Except maybe Tony Scott, but he did it with a Tarantino written movie. So. Unfair. Good way to do a Tarantino movie.
00:02:47
Speaker
This guy, John Dahl, he has directed a bunch of other stuff, mostly TV these days. But he did direct Rounders, Joyride and man came Sir Ben Kingsley called You Kill Me.
00:03:04
Speaker
OK, don't know that one. I saw it once. I remember being cool. I was really hoping you were going to say love guru. No, I remember seeing that movie once. It was after I had a big fight with my ex-girlfriend and my friend picked me up on the side of the road and I was incredibly drunk and we turned it on. And I remember that Ben Kingsley was an assassin.
00:03:24
Speaker
OK, OK, that sounds a little familiar. Maybe I've just dreamt it.
00:03:33
Speaker
Yes. And then John and Rick Dahl, as I said, wrote the movie together. um Before this, they had written another movie. Written and directed another movie. ah I thought I wrote it down here, but I guess I didn't. Oh, here it is. It's called Kill Me Again.
00:03:48
Speaker
And because of that movie, that's that movie is why Nick Cage is in this movie, because apparently Francis Ford Coppola is a huge fan of Kill Me Again. And he pushed Nick Cage to do this movie.
00:04:01
Speaker
OK, it sounds familiar, but I don't think you've ever seen it. So you guys want to do a little bit of a box office game?

Box Office Game: 'Red Rock West' Earnings

00:04:08
Speaker
You know, we do All right.
00:04:12
Speaker
Budget. of eight million dollars. Ooh, that's a fucking little piece of change. 1993. What month did it come out? I don't know. That changes drastically.
00:04:25
Speaker
Not for an eight million dollar movie. Okay. Let me see. I'm on the page right now. May. May 14th, 1993. Is it both or just one? Just one number. So May. 23. 23 Alex.
00:04:40
Speaker
twenty three twenty three million alex Jack, what is ten and a half? um Well, you both lose, but Jack is closer. 2.5. Oh, that's what that meant two point three two point three million answer sir I Hence it being here, even though I mean, i but brought this movie to you guys, so obviously I enjoy it.
00:05:04
Speaker
But. Not ah not a success, but um there's a lot of reasons behind it. it It actually became one of the more successful films of the 90s, but it was in second run theaters in like big cities like San Francisco, New York City, because it was originally supposed to be released by a company called Triumph Pictures.
00:05:24
Speaker
And then their first film that they put out was a box office disaster, and they didn't think this would be a moneymaker, so they backed out. So they shifted into being an insult comic dog. No relation?
00:05:37
Speaker
And then this sat on the shelf for like a year, and then Columbia TriStar released it, or they bought it for video and cable rights. And then ah some theater owner in San Francisco wanted to play it, so he started playing it, and then the screenings were selling out.
00:05:52
Speaker
and all this stuff, but it's still just second run small theaters in like a couple

Filming Locations and Cult Status of 'Red Rock West'

00:05:56
Speaker
of major cities. So that's not going to bump up your box office too much. I mean, I never heard of it before, but like it's kind of a little hidden gem, you know, cast wise alone.
00:06:05
Speaker
Well, I heard about this from one of our regulars. Well, one of my regulars is he only comes at night because he's like fucking 70 and dwells at night like a vampire. Well, I'm be.
00:06:16
Speaker
It was filmed primarily down in the Wilcox area. I mean, Wilcox, Bisbee, ah Elgin, bunch of places down South Arizona. But um it takes place in whis or Wyoming. wyoming It was filmed mostly in Arizona with some stuff filmed on soundstages in l L.A. and then some stuff text shot in Montana.
00:06:38
Speaker
So. We're all over the place geographically. That's why he told me about it, he because he's from Wilcox and he was like, oh, that movie was made from where I'm from. So he's happy about it. Spot on impersonation.
00:06:51
Speaker
Yeah, it actually he's a little too fast. This is funny, though, because this movie I've seen now three times, and each time I've changed my rating for it. Interesting. Did you go up on this one?
00:07:03
Speaker
This time it went down, but not by much. It just, like, leveled out. So the first time I gave it three stars, but I was watching it on a really shitty transfer, on a really shitty double-sided DVD that you could barely see.
00:07:15
Speaker
And I don't think I was in the right mood for like a slow burn. So I bought it on 4K. um Well, I gave it three stars. I enjoyed it, but it just wasn't it didn't click exactly. And then the Blu-ray came out. So I picked that up.
00:07:28
Speaker
um Because I did remember liking it. When I watched it on there, it went up to four and a half stars for me. But I think it was because I was watching this really crystal clear transfer and I was able to appreciate things more. Yeah.
00:07:38
Speaker
This time, I think I leveled out back to like a four because it's good. It's got some issues, but it's it's a solid. We all do. In my opinion. I liked it.
00:07:48
Speaker
Spoilers. So i do have some alternate castings, kind of. I like alternate castings. So before Nicolas Cage had been cast, Dennis Hopper suggested somebody who was a good friend of his.
00:08:03
Speaker
Keanu Reeves.
00:08:06
Speaker
Danny DeVito, for sure. ah Yes, it was Danny DeVito. It would be Cage's character. No, it was not. Was it Keanu? Because I could see that. No, he recommended a good friend of his, Chris Christopherson.
00:08:19
Speaker
Oh. Which would be a very different movie. Yeah. I was kind of locked in on the age, but it doesn't need to be of any certain age. No, not really. Right. I mean, he's just they just changed the line about when he was in the Marines. And yeah, there you go.
00:08:32
Speaker
Yeah. I guess at the time, Christopherson was mostly doing like made for TV movies and he was his career was at a low point. So Hopper was trying to help him out. Yeah. And we we saw him in Blade. I know it's company hasn't been made yet, but we saw him in Blade with a leg brace on. We know he can do leg injuries.
00:08:46
Speaker
Yeah. I'd have been his wheelhouse, dude. But it's funny because I guess he was only doing like made for TV movies, but his schedule was very packed with those. And he did. He declined without even reading the script.
00:08:58
Speaker
So I get a paycheck, though. I can't imagine like a made for TV movie at least is consistent. This is a what did you say? Eight million dollar budget. Yeah. A lot of that's not going to him. Yeah.
00:09:10
Speaker
um And then there's one. It's kind of an alternate. cast It is an alternate casting. Dennis Hopper was considered for a different role in this movie before he took over. Yes. Yeah. Jade for JT Walsh. Sheriff Wayne.
00:09:23
Speaker
Whatever. I don't know. No, it's Wayne. but They had other and last and or other names. Oh, yeah. Kevin, Kevin McAllister. yeah But the bank alone.
00:09:36
Speaker
But Hopper like fought with the director because he really wanted to be the like hit man with low self-esteem. Lyle and John Dahl was like, no, it's too much like your character from Blue Velvet.
00:09:47
Speaker
But he ended up winning. because he's Dennis Hopper yeah you want me in your god damn movie come collect you instead of a god damn jar but yeah as i said this did become kind of a cult hit an underground hit with people and it did get nominated for a couple of independent spirit awards which is like the indie film version of the Oscars ah best director and best screenplay okay We have three David Lynch alum in here. Yes, Whitney's thing. Laura.
00:10:21
Speaker
Because, yeah, Laura Flynn

Film Noir Elements and Cast Discussion

00:10:22
Speaker
Boyle from Twin Peaks, Nick Cage from Wild at Heart. And then, as we already discussed, Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet. So can't believe J.T. Walsh never made it in there. No. Doesn't he seem Lynchian?
00:10:33
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like he he's got a lot of lot of pain and darkness behind those eyes. Looks like he's just instantly ready to yell at a baby. Oh, I mean, who's not? Everybody except you.
00:10:45
Speaker
You're the only person that is fucking ready just to go guns akimbo on a child vocally. So the movie starts with Nick Cage. ah Presumably, it looks like he's living in his car.
00:10:56
Speaker
I guess he's just on a road trip and he can't afford a hotel. Yeah. Also, where was he going to sleep? think he's living in his car anyway. Yeah. I love his like highway pushups. He's just out there like shaving and brushing his teeth in his trunk and then doing one arm pushups in the middle of the highway.
00:11:13
Speaker
If you could do a one arm pushup, you want to show it off. Much like Jack Palance when he won Best ah Supporting Actor for City Slickers 2. What a weird one to win anything for. if If it wasn't number two, it was number one, but I think it was two because he was in that one more.
00:11:27
Speaker
But if you haven't seen this, motherfucker is like, don't know, in his 80s at that point, just doing one arm pushups at the Oscars. Baller. We've talked about Nick Cage a lot on this show, though.
00:11:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah. watch a lot of Nick Cage. um I mean, on on but the main feed here, it was what The Rock and Firebirds and Face Off. And then on New Movies, Worst People, we talked about Dream Scenario and The Retirement Plan.
00:11:52
Speaker
Didn't we do the devil also? No. Oh, we did. Sympathy for the devil? Yeah. Sympathy for the devil. That was our first one on yeah New Movies, Worst People. Look at Whitney knowing things. Oh, my God. Available on YouTube, by the way.
00:12:08
Speaker
Nice But yeah he's going up there He's trying to get oil man job roughneck job But he's got a fucked up leg So they won't hire him And this is where we start learning about who Nick Cage's character Yeah setting some character development Like dude why'd you tell him about the leg You could've just lied And he's like no wouldn't be right Cause it's not right It's not right It's not right I'm gonna keep on keeping on And this guy who's playing his friend Jim, I only wrote down because he's in a movie that Jack was just very excited about recently. Oh, I got a blow.
00:12:47
Speaker
Oh, that is the elbow. Can't you i look at that? I'm riveted. ah Don't you wait for El Diablo. We'll get on that real soon. Oh, yeah. So he doesn't get the job. He takes off.
00:12:58
Speaker
He's out of gas. And again, develop just developing his character. He stops for gas. The guy's not around. There's cash sitting out in the open. He does think about grabbing the cash. He looks at it. but he doesn't grab it.
00:13:09
Speaker
It wouldn't be a character without temptation. He'd be just a fucking perfect, morally boring, um, Jason Statham character. And fuck this gas station guy. Cause he sees the cash. He looks at Nick cage. He's like, that guy could have took my money, but he didn't.
00:13:23
Speaker
And then he gives Nick cage $5 with the gas and takes us $5. Like, no, just be like, cool. Thanks man for not stealing my money. This guy's running a business. He's he's ah he didn't realize that Nick Cage could have stolen it. He didn't know like he did anything wrong.
00:13:35
Speaker
I always leave my cash in a big open box in the middle of the place. No, because when he came out, he looked at the cash. He looked at Cage and he looked back at the cash. Yeah, they made a point of doing that. And, like, it stopped exactly at $5, too. Oh, yeah. This guy's actually God, okay? This guy's God. And now Nick Cage gets to go right to heaven when he's done.
00:13:55
Speaker
Okay. Because he saw, he's like, look at that. He didn't steal God's money. God had a chance to let you steal his money. He didn't take it. Well, he's not your typical...
00:14:06
Speaker
He's not your typical harbinger guy hanging out at the gas station because he does send Nick Cage to the place he shouldn't go. he sure does. You should go down that road. That road I'd go down. You're not doomed.
00:14:17
Speaker
You're not doomed. Head down to Red Rock. There's a bar there called Red Rock. Look that. Red Rock, Red Rock, Red Rock. Look at that. My denim on my denim. Canadian tuxedo, baby.
00:14:29
Speaker
Makes me feel free like my snake skin jacket. Yeah. So he gets there and meets J.T. Walsh, who's playing Sheriff Wayne Brown. But he doesn't know he's the sheriff.
00:14:40
Speaker
Nope. J.T. Walsh. J.T. Walsh been in a bunch of shit. He's in Backdraft, Loaded Weapon 1. Yeah. Sling blade. He's just always kind of this this character like hard ass kind of authoritative Well, a lot of his credits are our sheriff or officer or you know a Colonel and usually dirty yell at babies And usually dirty at that right we go to sleep too and he's like wake up baby You kept me up all night. I get to keep you up all day. You stupid baby never wake asleep and baby
00:15:12
Speaker
JT. Wallace don't give a shit. But he sees Cage's Texas plates. And so he's like, oh, you're here for the job, right? Lyle from Dallas. And Cage is like, yeah, Lyle. This guy's really bad at hiring Hitman because it's like you just gave all the details right away. yeah You're Lyle, the tier to kill my wife for $5,000. My Wayne.
00:15:34
Speaker
We talked. You're from Texas. yeah did Did you want any more exposition or did you pick it up from there? Well, because he's just like, you're here for the job, right? And Cage is like, yeah.
00:15:45
Speaker
So now he's in. I'm here for a job. The gas station guy did say you whole set like you'll get set up there. like They'll get you a job there. Well, it's funny because he goes back. He's like, he's like yeah, I'm here for a job. and the guy's like, cool.
00:15:57
Speaker
He doesn't know about the stuff yet. And as soon as they get back there, though that's when JT Walsh is like, here's $5,000. I'll give you $5,000 after you murder my wife. He's like, ah well, I can take $5,000.
00:16:09
Speaker
Five is good. Five is good. I can get some miles down the road on five. So he goes off to murder the wife. Well, to visit the wife. Yep. She's a very pretty lady. Yes. Played by Laura Flynn Boyle. A 1993 Laura Flynn Boyle.
00:16:23
Speaker
That's what I say. yeah Actually, it's like a 1991 Laura Flynn Boyle, right? Yeah. This is like Twin Peaks time because the the movie was delayed for a year. She's one of the few people that can even come close to pulling off this fucking hair.
00:16:36
Speaker
Yeah, very true, because I hate his hair this hair. This is the worst hair. This is very close to Demi Moore's hair in Nothing But Trouble, but somehow still working. Yes. Less hot dogs.
00:16:50
Speaker
Ooh, to watch Lara eat a hot dog.
00:16:55
Speaker
Lara Flynn Boyle. Keep in your pants. Playing Suzanne. I don't even have a dick, dude. Debatable. It is debatable. It's dick-baitable.
00:17:05
Speaker
ah People might know her, as I said, Twin Peaks. She's Donna Hayward, but also she was in Dead Poets Society, Men in Black 2, The Rookie, the not the TV show, but the movie with Clint Eastwood.
00:17:17
Speaker
Threesome. No, the one with Clint Eastwood and ah ah Charlie Sheen. I think the one I'm thinking of was just called Rookie. Yeah. And then, yes, she was in Threesome. Whitney's favorite movie that she will mention 400 times until we watch it. And then she'll keep mentioning it. Maybe that's what I make you guys watch. for Oh, speaking of ah your favorite movies, she's not in.
00:17:40
Speaker
Welcome to the Dollhouse, but she is in Happiness, which is also directed by Todd Solins, who directed Welcome to the Dollhouse. Oh, the fucked up one. That's the fucked up one we watched where ah ah Philip Seymour Hoffman is calling people and jerking off and then sticking pictures to the wall with his jizz. Yeah.
00:17:54
Speaker
Happiness is hard to find. Not in that movie. Pardon me, ma'am. Oh, happiness. and ah He's like, ah so your husband hired me to murder you. And she's

Nick Cage's Character and Moral Journey

00:18:05
Speaker
like, you want a drink?
00:18:07
Speaker
You don't seem pretty rattled. i mean i want I don't know why I have this problem, but she says, can I fix you a drink? She pours liquor into a glass. It's not fixing anything. It's not fixing anything. like It's fixing an empty glass. Would you like a drink?
00:18:21
Speaker
No. She's fixing that he doesn't have a drink. All right. That's fair. But I mean, I don't like the terminology. Can I put some whiskey in a glass for you? Yes, you may.
00:18:33
Speaker
Yes, you may indeed. So she up she offers him double or nothing to go and kill Wayne. So I think he takes her 10 grand. now he's got 15 because if she's doing half up front like he did, I think she just gives him another five because he only has the two bundles.
00:18:50
Speaker
OK, so they do. They do even say they found 10 grand in the car. So that's rights right. That's right. That tracks Whitney with names and numbers. Well, in fact, it would only be ah nine thousand nine hundred and ninety eight dollars.
00:19:06
Speaker
You don't have nothing smaller. He took two hundred out. ah The prices of the prices of these things. Two dollars would be nine thousand i the price of things in this movie is ridiculous. Well, he goes grocery shopping right now at the gas station. I'm like, he obviously knows he's a baller now. He's like, I got 10 grand. Let's go grocery shopping at the gas station. you Milk for $17.50. I got some $20 beef jerky. You should only cost me $3. Well, because he's got two bags of groceries and it costs him 120 bucks. I'm like, what is this? 2025? Yeah.
00:19:38
Speaker
yeah and yeah that That's what I spent just going to the store yesterday. Oh, same Z's. And 29 gallons of gas. and don't know if you said that. don't even know what I have. Oh, that's, that's And 29 gallons of gas. Yes.
00:19:54
Speaker
Big tank. Yeah. Oh, $29 of gas. Oh, that's what it is. I like how the guy trusts him. He's like, how much gas did you get? He's like, $29.30. And I'm like, $7.00 is how much I got. You had that thing on for quite some time. $7.00? I think not.
00:20:11
Speaker
I do a trickle fill system. I don't trust the high flow. It's called low fill. It's better for the environment. Less fumes. I don't want to get high when I pump gas. Wait, where do I?
00:20:26
Speaker
but So he decides to skip town, writes a letter to the sheriff about Wayne. Again, not knowing that Wayne is the sheriff. And in a theme of this movie, it's torrential downpour. He goes to leave town.
00:20:38
Speaker
You are now leaving Red Rock West. take Take a shot every time you see this sign coming or going. Well, Whitney was like, this should be a thing. And I was like, why do you think it's the cover of the fucking movie? I said it needs to be in the cast.
00:20:50
Speaker
Oh, in the cast. OK. It's our background, too. Oh, I forgot to do my cool thing. Oh, that's so cool. Oh, cool.
00:21:03
Speaker
Shut the fuck up. So he leaves town. Fucking there's a guy broken down on the side of the road who this is on this dude. Jumps in front. i agree agree. Because it's not it's not middle of the day, sunny and bright.
00:21:16
Speaker
This is fucking, you know, closer to mid midnight than it is not. And like Whitney said, torrential rain. Yeah, this is is this is Wilcox monsoon going on. Dude just like steps out in front of the car. It's the worst time of the year and night to be standing in the middle of road.
00:21:34
Speaker
ah I mean, it's only it only lasts like 10 minutes. so Well, all it only needs to last 10 seconds. Yeah, right. yeah right But yeah, he hits the dude and he's like, well, fuck me. This dummy action fantastic. Oh, God. When he hits that guy, it is awesome. Those legs are broke.
00:21:52
Speaker
Them legs. That sex machine is broke. And this guy, by the way, we saw going into a trailer with Laura Flynn Boyle earlier.
00:22:03
Speaker
So that's going to be important. Don't you forget it. I already forgot it. What? So he takes him back to the hospital and we meet our deputies, Deputy Matt and Deputy Ross.
00:22:15
Speaker
I love these guys. Deputy Matt paid played by Timothy Carhart, who's the one that you definitely recognize, right? He's blue eyed one. The guy's in a bunch of shit. Hunt for Red October, Working Girl, Thelma and Louise, Beverly Hills Cop 3, Yellowstone. He's the scumbag in Thelma and Louise that they that she ends up killing.
00:22:33
Speaker
Yeah. He's the one that's trying to... feed grapes to Gina Davis and this other guy, Deputy Ross, you might recognize him. I recognize two movies from his credits. Yeah, he does.
00:22:45
Speaker
He's in Tron. He's one of the computer people, so it's gonna be harder to recognize him. Yeah. But he's also in Bill and Ted as Billy the Kid. Oh, shit. Okay. Fuck yeah.
00:22:58
Speaker
He doesn't really have much to do here. It's mostly Deputy Matt's movie as far as the deputies go. Yeah. He's the quiet guy just chewing on a toothpick the whole time. Yeah. He's the his muscle almost.
00:23:10
Speaker
Yeah. Beautiful mullet. Good mullet. And we find out that the dude who got hit, Kurt, has been shot twice in the stomach. So they're like, we have to ask you some questions, Mr. Nick Cage. Doctor comes out. They're like, ah he's lost a lot of blood. And Nick's like, where did the blood come from?
00:23:29
Speaker
He's got a scratch on his forehead. Well, he's also got bullets in his gut. I mean, I read him over in the kneecaps. He should be like Lieutenant Danning, not bleeding. But the sheriff comes in and we get the reveal that it's Wayne. He does this thing with the whole time he's got his head down and his hat over his face. And then he does like the look up, tilt his hat thing.
00:23:48
Speaker
And Nick Cage is like, well, fuck. I am in so much fucking trouble. I wish I was in nothing but trouble right now. Watching Dan Aykroyd, Dick Nosey, a hot dog. That's what I'm wishing for.
00:24:00
Speaker
Yes. Now, now the guy knows his real name, which means he knows he's not Lyle and he's in police custody. And even the deputy, Matt's like, why are we going to keep this dude? do You think he shot the guy and then brought him to the hospital? a little bit weird.
00:24:13
Speaker
Yeah yeah depu Matt you said Deputy Matt he's like He's kind of on the up and up right away I like him For first time he's not playing a shitty guy That's what I was thinking i was like i It's a surprising turn for this actor because he I saw him and I was like oh yeah he must be a piece of shit I don't remember this movie like I don't remember him that well I thought it was going to be like the whole Sheriff's deputies were all like part of a posse Right yeah no But that's not at all I like being wrong sometimes Plot twist So JT Walsh takes Nick Cage, drives the truck off the road, and he like does the thing where he like sets the handcuff key up on the dash.
00:24:50
Speaker
You know, like, grab the key. Because Nick Cage is like, I can just leave right now, dude. Like, i'll just I can just go. And he's like, all right, yeah. And he's off-roads and fucks up his truck. And that's when he sets him up. He's like, yeah, go ahead.
00:25:02
Speaker
You can leave, dude. Just grab the key. Go for it. I dare you. You got to be quicker. You got be quicker than that. almost had it. So he gets out of there. He gets out of the handcuffs, barely escapes getting shot, slams this dude's arm in the truck. And I'm like this old fucking Bronco or whatever. They probably snap that dude's arm. But oh, yeah, it's it's not a Bronco. It's a Blazer of the same year. Like what's one of those bigger fucking little SUVs pre SUV?
00:25:30
Speaker
Yeah. So he grabs Wayne's gun and he gets the fuck out of there and almost gets run over by a big old Cadillac. I think it is. ah believe so.
00:25:40
Speaker
oh Oh, wait, no, his is a Cadillac. His is a Cadillac. Yeah. OK. It was the giant grill in the giant front end that made me think Cadillac. I only know because Officer Matt says we're looking for a black Buick.
00:25:52
Speaker
Oh, it's like a Buick. right I said, nothing stops like a Ford. Yeah, that would have killed him, Whitney. He would have skid for fucking 300 yards and just taken Nicolas Cage with him, leaving nothing but a bloody streak.
00:26:06
Speaker
Well, movie over. These streets aren't wet, but it was just raining. He just got his brakes fixed. I know I love that. So it's Dennis Hopper playing Lyle from Dallas again. He's been on the show a few times now. Waterworld Super Mario Brothers.
00:26:20
Speaker
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00:26:39
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don't know that. I'll get there. Is it free Jack?
00:26:58
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00:28:51
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But he's got the line where he's like, if I he says, if I hadn't just got my breaks done, I'd be picking your brains out of my radiator. True enough. Dennis Hopper fucking rules in this movie. He's he's everybody, I think, does a pretty good job in this movie. Dennis Hopper is the best. The reason this movie I like this movie as much as I do.
00:29:09
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One hundred percent is the reason I like speed. The drug. Yes. I mean, that makes sense. Do you have issue to it? Yes. No, I was having a decent enough time at first, you know, it's a slower kind of burn. But as soon as he comes onto screen, I'm having an instantly better time.
00:29:24
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Yeah. Like, it just it just elevated this movie in such a way. And they find out they're both they were both Marines, and ah Nick Cage mentions that he was in Lebanon. And i it's funny because he's like, wait, were you in that building they hit? And he's like, yep.
00:29:40
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Man, you were lucky. I know! By the way, it is called Freejack, but it's Anthony Hopkins. Oh. Oh, okay. Emilio Estevez is also in a Freejack that I've mentioned a few times on here, but I didn't know Dennis Hopper was in it. That's why I was like, no, but he's not.
00:29:57
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Yeah. Yeah. um I think that's the one where they're there's time travel involved. Not 100% sure. It's got Mick Jagger. So he's like, let me buy you a beer.
00:30:09
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You know, and Nick Cage is politely declining. Am I not good enough for you to have a beer with? It's the beginning of that. Yeah. Because comes back. He's like, dude, come on. Like, you know, I just you you did. ah I almost hit you.
00:30:20
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Do me the favor. No, I'm good. No, I'm good. Keeps politely declining. Fine. I was like, what? Good enough for you. It's the hit man with low self-esteem. ah Why you think he became a hitman?
00:30:33
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I don't drink would have worked and what Well then you come inside and I'll get you a bag of peanuts Okay I don't want to drink a alone Don't make me drink alone I'm a hitman with low self esteem He wouldn't have believed him He's like you're a marine You don't fucking drink Yeah no shit dude right You watch your friends die and you're going to sit there and tell me you don't drink 217 of them 41 yeah two hundred and seventeen of something that if forty one yeah um So they go in and they get two shots and two beers for six dollars and fifty cents. Go fuck yourself. There's some more pricing dude. He's like I'll have a shot of a Budweiser and a shot of Jim Beam.
00:31:07
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Same for me. And I was like oh man. like In my mind was like oh it's bold of you to be like same thing. He said he's buying you a beer. He didn't say he's buying you a beer and a shot. Yeah. But it turns out when it costs you six dollars for two beers and two shots I will buy them for you all night.
00:31:22
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Yeah, because Lyle doesn't know anything's up yet. So he's like, I guess I'll just leave town with $9,995.50 or $9,993.50. This is part of the business expenses. Yeah, he'll write this off for this tax guy. I'm going have you for that one.
00:31:36
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this is part of the business business expenses yeah he'll write this off for this tax guy i'm gonna have to bill you for that one
00:31:47
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um So, yeah, he's this is when Dennis Hopper tells the bartender, like, hey, let Wayne know that Lyle from Dallas finally showed up. And Nick Cage is like, fuck, dude. Are you

Cyclical Narrative and Confrontations

00:31:56
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serious? Oh, and we didn't mention on their way back into town is the welcome to Red Rock West sign again. Oh, yeah. just Back and forth. This is our third time viewing the sign.
00:32:04
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Because this is actually purgatory. Oh. Yeah, he cannot escape. No. I love I love ah Lyle's line here. Cage is like, I'm going to hit the head. And he's like, ah don't piss on the seat, even if they did. It's not lucky.
00:32:18
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I'm going to use that one at work when people get up to go to the bathroom. be Hey, don't piss on the seat, even if they did. Yeah. It's not a fucking blank check. Just piss everywhere. heathen But Wayne shows up, tells Lyle about ah Michael.
00:32:34
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So he sneaks out the window up to the roof. And i this is actually this really good idea. And it's also really well shot because Lyle and Wayne go out and start looking for Michael.
00:32:46
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And you've got Lyle like standing out in the ah the distance a little bit looking around. And Nick Cage lays down this two by four and is like fucking there's a balance beaming across it to the top of this semi. Yeah.
00:33:00
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It's a great shot. And he gets out of there. But the semi is driven by Dwight Yoakam. I thought it was right away. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very noticeable face, I would i would say.
00:33:12
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Cage like falls off the top of the truck and Dwight Yoakam. No, he doesn't fall off first. He's crawling. waves to him. Oh, that's right. Waves to the passenger or the driver's side window. He's like knocking waves.
00:33:24
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And of course, what's your reaction when somebody's arm is just dangling in your driver's side window slamming the fucking brakes? Because my God, how did you get up there? What's happening? Demons. yeah Angels, dude.
00:33:35
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Some sort of Peruvian truck ghost. Yeah. But I love, like, Dwight Yoakam pulls out his gun, sticks it in his face. By the way, I read that Dwight Yoakam said he brought his own pistol from home.
00:33:47
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I bet he did. so
00:33:50
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And he puts the gun in his face. Does that tickle? Because it won't if I pull the trigger. It didn't tickle in the first place. You put a gun barrel in my nose. and her Yeah, but felt because he like file. He went from the truck to the top of the cab. And Dwight hears that and he's looking around and then he taps on the window and there's like, did it fucking tickle?
00:34:10
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And then when he fell. All right. I think when I put the gun in your face, that's that's what I thought he meant. ah But Nick Cage is like, look, I'm just trying to get away from my old lady, man. He's like, so you climbed on my truck. He's like, do you don't know my old lady?
00:34:22
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Yeah, she saw me dancing with somebody. Yeah, she saw me dancing with somebody. She started growing horns. You know what i'm saying, brother? He says she's spooky. You know, I don't think she exists.
00:34:33
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You know how how it is with bitches, right, brother? ah But Nick Cage makes a fucking boner move here because on the way out of town, he's like, oh, just drop me off at this ah palatial farmhouse over here so I can go talk to Laura Flynn Boyle. It's like, no, get a ride.
00:34:49
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Go away. Leave town. move over. Well, he's thinking could still get his car. Yeah. Or a pretty girl. He's got the money in the car, I guess, so... But either way, gotta live.
00:35:02
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But it is a fake Coen Brothers movie, and it's all about getting that money, even though it's gonna fuck everything up. so So she's packing up all her shit, and he's talking to her, and Lyle shows up.
00:35:14
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And it's very funny, because he tells her to go hide. Lyle comes around looking for him, and Nick Cage has this, like, um... statue Big like brass. It's like a brass bowl or something, isn't it?
00:35:26
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And he just fucking hucks it. tennis hopper you It is a statue. Yeah. Like a bull. Or a horse or something. so there is a There is a clock in this movie that is Teddy Roosevelt on a bucking horse, but i don't think that's this. That's later. I thought he had two of them, one in the house and one in the office. and Well, you know what, though? it's It's not that weird to be that into Teddy Roosevelt. I'll be honest.
00:35:50
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I know Robin Williams played him. So you just get just buy all the Teddy Roosevelt stuff, dude. The guy got shot and finished his presidential speech. Baller.
00:36:01
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He didn't get his ear grazed by a mythical bullet. Oh, I should say, like, he got real shot. He got legit shot. Do you think that's why they did that? To kind of be like, oh, he's just like Teddy Roosevelt. He got shot and he's fine. I mean, nobody brought up Teddy Roosevelt. but Yeah, the people who he's trying to convince with that they don't even know.
00:36:20
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Yeah, they've never heard of Teddy Roosevelt. They don't talk about Teddy Roosevelt before the fourth grade. So that's ancient history. Those guys are out of school by then. um But yeah, he fucking hucks that metal horse or whatever it is that Dennis Hopper's head, which is a laugh out loud moment for me. It it is.
00:36:37
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And she's like, what? Coen brothers, you might get out of town. Lebowski said the fuck out of Malibu. I'm sorry. What were you saying? I wasn't paying attention. Hucks a fucking coffee mug. at Stay out of my beach careers or my what my beach community. Lebowski. Stay out of Red Rock. Lebowski.
00:36:54
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Stay away from Laura Flynn Boyle. Lebowski. But she's like, so what should I do? He's like, i don't know if I were you. If I were you, I'd get a divorce. Yeah, that's a smart thing to do. Dev one.
00:37:04
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ah So, yeah, he takes Lyle's gun, tries to take Lyle's car, but the keys aren't there. So they take off in her Jeep, which also has no gas. and Fucking story of my life Yeah i like that line Jeep out back On empty Oh what kind of mileage do you get Why? Cause we are on empty How how well can you push a car?
00:37:26
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Like do you you ever seen Universal Soldier? Can you push like that? Because we're gonna need that level Yep I'm going push this, i don't know, 200 miles to the next town, whatever is happening in Wyoming. I she said 40. Yeah.
00:37:39
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Oh, okay. Still. and It's Wyoming. I just assume there's only one town every 200 miles, which means there's two towns in Wyoming. No, it's Arizona. There's one every 45 miles. Do they count as a town, though?
00:37:51
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No. No. Hamlets. Quaint little hamlets. ah unloworated Unincorporated township. yeah um But they stupidly They stop for gas but they stop And she's like let's get a drink And it's like come the fuck on dude just go Well because but but we know why though For her yeah She wants this yeah money like So we know what she's doing yeah She's a like well don't know well We're going to spoil things right yeah She's a user of people oh She is She's a femme fatale
00:38:24
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Well, she gives him the sob story about how her family died and she got a lot of money, but he's just so used to living with spending it that he thinks it's better to kill her so he can keep the money all to herself.
00:38:35
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and so Yeah. And again, like Jack said, the femme fatale thing very much the Coen brothers thing, because all their stuff up to a certain point, at least was like neo noir type stuff. And that's a noir thing.
00:38:47
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Neo noir basically just means it's in color and well lit. Yeah. ah All the same feels, though. Yeah. So, yeah, they stay, they get a little too drunk, and they go to a hotel, and she comes out in a great lingerie.
00:39:02
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Boobies. Cage wants to fuck. ah Marriage is just a state of mind. Not in Texas, but we're not in Texas. Oh. little ah walk Oh, you know what? I forgot. We're not in Texas.
00:39:15
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All right. Let pull my pee hole through my jeans. I love, though, after they fuck, she's asking him about Texas or about Mexico. And he's like, my dad bought me a little purple sombrero and a guitar. And I'm like, that's I we need a flashback. I know it's not that movie. Yeah, I just need Nick Cage like like like Gandalf and Hobbit Nick Cage. So there's a guy next to him that looks bigger and he's got a little. Well, but it's going to be Nick Cage with a mustache playing his dad.
00:39:45
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And then, yes, then a little ah forced perspective kind of thing you're saying. Yeah, there you go. That's the word I was trying to think of. Please give me that. Yeah, well, they didn't know who to cast for Nick Cage's dad. And then J.T. Walsh, he worked on Backdraft. He's like, I've got an idea, guys.
00:40:00
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You know, you know, we did this other movie. Just put a mustache and no one even knew it wasn't Kurt Russell. It's amazing. You can't even tell him apart. So she's like, let's go back and steal Wayne's money and then we'll go to Mexico. And he's like.
00:40:14
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Bitch, you want to go back to Red Rock? So they go back. And we get the sign again. So we go to Red Rock again. Again. Now go fuck with J.T. Walsh again.

Heist Planning and Noir Themes

00:40:28
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And we don't learn until a little later that there's supposed to be a half million dollars in this safe. Because when she gets in there, she's disappointed. I was like, that's like 30 grand. You're going to Mexico in 1993, dude. Like you're fine too. Cause she's like, it's plenty of money. I'm like, I'm seeing a couple of fucking stacks right there that we can live on at least this lifestyle of, you know, no, there's like four, there's like five or six little $5,000 bundle. You know what? Even if it's 15, even if it's 15 for Nicholas cages, lifestyle, we're good.
00:40:56
Speaker
Yeah. right Living in a car. getting cheap Shit for for her lifestyle. 1993 Mexico. Yeah. fifteen thousand As long as you're not like right at the border where they know like the exchange rate and shit, you get down deeper. You'll be fine. That margarita will never run fucking dry.
00:41:12
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But Wayne shows up as do the deputies. And they're like, oh, we have this Western style wanted poster that says that you and your wife are wanted for one point nine million dollars.
00:41:23
Speaker
Weird. And that your name is not, in fact, Wayne. Yeah. Should I call you Kevin? No. um It's McCord. It's McCord, by the way, not McAllister. I knew it was a McCordy Culkin. Got it But I like the, you know, it's like, ah like I said, it's like an old West wanted poster.
00:41:41
Speaker
We've got the music and all this stuff it's very like Western vibes. That's very Wilcox. Yeah. And all this stuff is very Western vibes. And I was reading that they didn't have a score yet, obviously, on on set because this isn't a spaghetti Western. They didn't make the score first.
00:41:55
Speaker
Right. But they were playing ah like Ennio Morricone music for the scenes who did, you know, like Good, Bad and Ugly and all that. Yeah. remember that name. um Yeah, they were it gave it that vibe while they were acting and even even what's his name is ah Lyle from Texas is calling a lot of people cowboy.
00:42:15
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah, which I think that's why people give it the Tarantino ripoff is because it has a lot of very distinct vernacular and it's not a Tarantino ripoff, obviously, because you said it's pre ah Pulp Fiction, but it's that same kind of it's kind of how John Travolta talks in Pulp Fiction.
00:42:33
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This one's for you, Ash LaRue. Yeah, it's kind of that 90s. I guess it's not the snappy snap dialogue because it's not quite there, but it's just that stylized dialogue. The characters of them. yeah this this This guy is a character in a Tarantino movie because Tarantino watched this.
00:42:49
Speaker
Yeah. Probably. Oh, you know he did. He's like, you telling me you're telling me, a man, that this movie didn't play in any fucking theaters? I'm going to see it, man, and we're going to it at the west at the New Beverly that I don't own yet. Ha ha ha ha ha.
00:43:02
Speaker
When did he work at that rental place? When the video archives, I was before was before Reservoir Dogs. I'm not sure when he left there, but I was like in the 80s.
00:43:16
Speaker
He was still part timing at this point, then probably because all he had done was Reservoir Dogs and cocaine.
00:43:23
Speaker
Lots and lots of cocaine. So the deputy is like, so was Kurt trying to blackmail you or like what's going on with this? And he's like, wait, did you come here to arrest me? And they're like, yeah, kind of looks like that, doesn't it? Kind of feels like it, doesn't it?
00:43:36
Speaker
The way I'm talking, the way you're acting, our body language, I'm thinking I'm going to arrest you. And Laura and Nick are hiding in the closet watching all of this go down. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the whole time.
00:43:47
Speaker
So she's like tells Nick Cage like, hey, man, there was there was it was all Wayne. He robbed somebody and then told me we had to go on the run. And now all of a sudden I'm a fugitive and I don't have anything to do with it because look at me, I'm too hot to be a criminal.
00:44:00
Speaker
I could. So let's we had sex. You know, you know, I'm innocent. um but we We fucked. Let's just get the half mil and we'll go to Mexico. Fuck Mexico. Fuck love Mexico.
00:44:12
Speaker
He does just a the bare minimum of the rate than caging out in this movie. he's yeah he's a calm one for the most part. I mean, Derek said a couple times this one right here and a couple others there where he hits that 11.
00:44:25
Speaker
eleven But besides that, he's you know who the wild one is? Is is Dennis Hopper. Yeah. Well, and actually, speaking of Coen Brothers, I thought about it when when he was leaving town after going to the hospital. He's in his car, and he starts punching the roof of the car like the dude in Big Lebowski.
00:44:41
Speaker
Except for the dude's doing it to to the beat of the music. Cage is just like, fuck, fuck! My credence tapes and some my papers. But they go to leave, and Lyle's there, sucker punches Cage, and drags them off to go pay Wiener a visit.
00:44:58
Speaker
Wiener. Yeah, why are we calling him that now? Because he's wiener. Because he's fucking Dennis Hopper, and he does what he wants. All right. that's ah That's the answer I'll accept, always. Also, yeah, because he's probably a wiener.
00:45:10
Speaker
All right. Lyle's like, that guy's kind of a wiener. Wiener? I thought he was combining Wiener. honorner
00:45:17
Speaker
but he's in walsh's batman i don't think he i don't think that batman doesn't kill i think he exclusively kills yeah the joker the joker fucked up once wiped off the earth i don't have to kill you but i will don't have to kill you but i get to and you have any babies you can scream at so to break to break wayne out of jail lyle goes and sets this abandoned house on fire He goes in there and there's this other deputy who's a terrible actor.
00:45:46
Speaker
Can we talk about how he burns it down though? Because it's just tremendous, just scenery eating. He's got the bottle of but some, some scotch. I think he's, he's always drinking scotch is when he offers a cage later.
00:45:58
Speaker
And, you know, takes a big swig of it and he does this big like hand motion to turn it upside down. But then the very like almost the very last sip, he puts it up to his mouth again and he kind of smiles like, man, what a fucking waste.
00:46:11
Speaker
Oh, well, got to get done. And lights it up like he's doing this whole fucking like monologue with his body. Yeah. i fantastic I told Whitney, I was like, there's no whiskey that comes with a screw cap that is strong enough to start a fire.
00:46:27
Speaker
Wild Turkey 101. Oh, it has a cork. Well, 101 might have a screw top. The handle does. At first I said nothing has a screw cap that's strong enough, and then I thought of 151 and Everclear. Well, if but yeah he's not drinking Bacardi 151. I hope he's not just sitting there fucking housing 151. He has cases of this in his car.
00:46:48
Speaker
He does. No, no. these He's from Texas. He's drinking whiskey. This guy built a bar in the back of his car to drive himself to drinking. Yep. Yep. I think he says scotch. Is my scotch not good you? He built a bar in the back of his car to drive real far.
00:47:05
Speaker
R. ah But yeah, he goes in there to this other deputy. we found out it's Ted. Because this guy's calling the volunteer firefighters. You said actor?
00:47:19
Speaker
I think he was perfect for this scene. This town has never seen trouble. And all of a sudden he's like, hey, um Roger, this is Officer Mortimer here. Get the fire together.
00:47:29
Speaker
All right. Hey, Brian, this Officer Mortimer here. Get the fire. Volunteer's here. Hey, Steven, this Officer. It's the same exact inflection every time. But the same exact inflection. You were putting a lot better performance in on it because to me he was just like, hello, Kevin, this is Ted.
00:47:48
Speaker
There is fire. It was not that bad. He's reading the script. Fire bad. um All right, since we're here, this is what I'm supposed to read. If there's a fire, um first things first, call Karen because she's going to get the word out there.
00:48:01
Speaker
um Hey, Karen, it's Officer Mortimer. There's been a fire. Tell your friends. But it doesn't matter if he's a good actor or not because he pretty much immediately gets blown the fuck away. oh yeah. Lyle walks in and just fucking caps this dude.
00:48:14
Speaker
You can see him outside thinking, though. He's like, how am I going to do this? Like, I could do the old onesie twosie. I could do the old Cincinnati swindle. Let's just do onesie. could walk in and shoot him. Yeah, just the onesie.
00:48:28
Speaker
wo We don't need a twosie. He's going to make a twosie once I give him the onesie. that's right That's the onesie twosie. You shoot them once, they shit their pants. I shoot you with one bullet. You make it number two in your pants.
00:48:39
Speaker
was he doing it um So, yeah, he offers Wayne. He's like, hey, you can stay here and go back to Illinois or whatever, or I can break you out for half of that money. Yeah. like All right, cool.
00:48:52
Speaker
Half. Have you ever seen a Coen Brothers ripoff? Cage and Lara are tied up in the back of the car. Yeah. And cage has broken free fund date.
00:49:04
Speaker
He gives her the knife and he's like, you take Wayne, I'll get Lyle. Deputy Matt gets back because he's like, he's trying to call the other deputy and he's like, he's not answering. That's probably not good. And ah Lyle even comments on it because ah the deputy pulls up pretty quickly and he's like, oh, smart cop.
00:49:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. he He figured he had probably another 10, 15 minutes minimum. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, shit. This is really cool, though, because he's got Cage driving because Cage tried to get Laura Flynn Boyle out, and then they got caught.
00:49:33
Speaker
Put it back in the car, cowboy. Yeah. And he's like, race this fucking train because they're trying to get away. There's a train coming. Stamps his foot on Nick Cage's foot. he's like just keep your He's like, just keep us on the road and floors this bitch.
00:49:49
Speaker
And they don't even come close to beating this train. No. Lyle looks at it goes, uh-oh. But doesn't doesn't take his foot off the gas, by the way. no There's got to be at least one movie where Dennis Hopper's last words are, uh-oh, and there's an explosion.
00:50:05
Speaker
It could have been right here. It would have been a great way to end this movie. like, everybody died. The money's buried forever. We go home now. See, I would have turned left instead of right.
00:50:15
Speaker
So you're not racing the train. I thought so, too. That's less exciting, I guess, because absolutely. like Maybe it was blocked off more. That was kind of back toward the police station was back and to the left. Oh, yeah.
00:50:28
Speaker
And to left. And to the left. I don't know, but he does turn and race the train literally this time. i mean, you can make up whatever reason you want. It's because it looks cool. It's because they can get over to this little ramp that the production set up luckily for Nick Cage and fucking they just they jump this track right in front of this train. It's really fucking cool.
00:50:49
Speaker
because if this was a Fast and Furious movie, Vin Diesel would like, we could do it in a computer. I don't want to hurt my family. fer Can I be part of your family, Red Red?
00:50:59
Speaker
This is a real fucking boat with wheels jumping in front of a train. And it it does that awesome, like fucking just big smash, you know, where this thing's not driving after this. But i don't care. don't care.
00:51:10
Speaker
i don't care I'm just happy to see a stunt like this. And fucking $8 million dollars movie. And this is where you hear like the people over by the semi and they're like, yeah, this fucking asshole in a black Buick just ran down the train and dah, dah, dah.
00:51:25
Speaker
And that's where officer Matt's like, I bet you it's a black Buick that we're looking for. If I was a betting man, and I am, because I'm in Wilcox. What the fuck else am doing? No, Matt doesn't bet. Oh, Matt bets.
00:51:38
Speaker
He's a goodest boy. He's a goodest boy with one vice. You know his vice? The ponies.
00:51:44
Speaker
They don't have a horse track around here, so he just bets on Russian roulette. That's his that's his one vice. I like the ponies, but I play Russian roulette. You know, win in Rome. Win in Jerome.
00:51:56
Speaker
The city in Arizona for people don't know. a City's loose on that term. Town? Yeah. Town is loose on that one. Quaint little pueblo. i mean, that is where Maynard lives.
00:52:08
Speaker
Because he's trying to get away from people. Yeah. yeah That's why. But like Dennis Hopper, his self-esteem coming through again because he's like, I knew a guy like you. He thought he was better than everyone. You think you're better than me, man? Because he's offering him scotch while he's driving. He's sitting backwards in this chair, by the way. He's in the passenger chair, passenger seat of his car.
00:52:28
Speaker
And he's sitting backwards like on his knees with a gun pointed at it no airbags. Well, he's got to be able to see all of his ah hostages. You got one dude with a pistol and three hostages. And even JT Walsh with handcuffs could still do some fucking damage.
00:52:43
Speaker
Let's be honest. But like Nick Cage's response to that is blow me, which is very good. And then he shoots the window out. Dude, that's fucking cool. He's like, who's got the gun, big man? And he fucking just shoots out this window right across from Nick Cage's like right across Nick Cage's face. All right. You got the gun. It's a good thing we're driving faster because I would have clopped. would have collided with that bullet.
00:53:05
Speaker
if If this was a rocket car and you shot across from me while I'm going really, really fast, you just shot me, cowboy. Yeah. no we all And the gun is still the road the gunt is still smoking when he puts it to his face.
00:53:18
Speaker
Does that tickle? They get to this graveyard, which is the last place anybody would look for the money. Um, and I think this is one of the reasons i would the first time I watched the first time

Graveyard Climax and Tense Standoffs

00:53:31
Speaker
I watched this movie. I think this is one of the reasons that I was like, because this graveyard is very clearly a set. Everything's been on location.
00:53:37
Speaker
And like this is one of those things where they have it set up, but then it just kind of fades out to black around you, which is how, you know, it's like you're on a fucking hammer set from an old, you know, hammer monster movie or something. It's just like, oh, I thought you meant the fucking MC Hammer like movie sets. i I was very confused.
00:53:53
Speaker
um was like, thriller. No, like the old, you know, Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing. Sure. Not Star Wars. Sorry, Jack. but like i I'm more sorry. It does this fade out thing. Not bring up Star Wars.
00:54:05
Speaker
I just brought it up. So you got a shovel? But it looks a little cheap. So I think that's part of the reason I was like, oh, come on, guys. There's graveyards in Wilcox. But I did read that, like, it was cold and wet while they were in Wilcox.
00:54:18
Speaker
So they were not there at the right time of year. Also, don't dig up a real cemetery. Why not? It's not like they're get you. They're coming to get you, Barbara. No. They're here. I'll go hang out in a cemetery. I'm not fucking digging.
00:54:32
Speaker
But they could have still filmed and then just because the digging is a close up. They could have had a close up of him digging some You know how hard it is digging Arizona? that caliche but it is it is a nice thing he did it they they did it on a set in la and it's because he didn't want everybody to be outside filming in miserable cold wet weather there you go so good director move bad movie move it's the opposite of james cameron james cameron's like i want you guys to dig in such terrible conditions that one of you almost drowns
00:55:04
Speaker
It's kind of my thing, man. It's a movie kink I have. If I'm not coming close to killing an actor actress, I am not doing a good enough movie. So I know that's the abyss. What else does that happen in?
00:55:15
Speaker
He waterboarded E.T. But I think that's now when he's making all these Avatar movies, which are made exclusively in a computer, he just goes over to one of the actors' houses and punches them until they almost stop breathing. He's like, sorry, I need to almost kill someone. He water balloons people on the way into the voice box, the voice fucking recording studio. Drown on this, splat.
00:55:37
Speaker
That's why when he did Way of Water, he filled Sigourney Weaver's voice booth with water. He's like, all right, do your lines. It's like a back to tank in there.
00:55:49
Speaker
But Walsh. Back to the plot. Walsh very, very non-suspiciously is like, well, I'll show you where to dig if you uncuff me. And Lionel's not that stupid. He's just like, I mean, I'll do it.
00:56:05
Speaker
But I'm also on to you. But I've got the gun. Yep. Yeah. So he's got cage digging, even though even though Wayne is uncuffed. I feel like he would make Wayne dig. But he's got cage digging the hole, and Lyle is just jawing away at these guys. The reason they have cage digging is because where he would just run away. He doesn't want anything to do with this money. Oh, that's fair. Yeah.
00:56:28
Speaker
Oh, I figure just tire him out because he's your tougher adversary. And again, Walsh is pushing it here because he's like, all right, well, there's a lock on this. I'll open the lock if you get rid of your gun. What keeps me from shooting you right now and then shooting the fucking lock? And he's like, well, they there's caretakers here and that would get messy even for you. So it's best if I just give you my combination. 696969.
00:56:55
Speaker
The caretaker might hear the gunshot. I mean, he is 104, so probably not, but he might. He won't know what it is. He might think it's a car backfiring, some kids with some fireworks, some sort of Chinese New Year in Wyoming.
00:57:08
Speaker
He might think he just farted. and Honey, baby, that was disgusting. Ooh, ooh, I want a divorce.
00:57:16
Speaker
Hopper puts down his gun very pointedly. They show he slides the clip out little slide of hand thing. So there's no bullets in it, which doesn't make sense to me. as It comes up later in the movie. There should be one bullet.
00:57:27
Speaker
There is. Or what? No, because Laura Flynn Boyle takes the gun later and it doesn't have any bullets in it. But there's also not one racked in then. But Lyle already fired. He fired the gun through the window. Doesn't mean it'll rack it in. It should. It's automatic like that. Yeah, that's absolutely what should be happening.
00:57:44
Speaker
I didn't think about that. There's a phantom bullet somewhere. Maybe that was the bad bullet, you know, yeah fire dummy round. Yeah. But he drops the gun and takes the clip and then.
00:57:58
Speaker
Cage is like, he's trying to push that. He's like, you really think he's going to give you half, man? Like, look at this fucking guy. Look at that metal buckle. He ain't going to give you shit. He's called you cowboy the whole day. ah keeps calling you Wainer.
00:58:12
Speaker
Don't be such a Wainer, Wainer. I don't really go for a Wainer dog. ah So could I. Dear Wainer schnitzel. But there's a gun in the box.
00:58:23
Speaker
Surprise. i was floored. Walsh was like, I think maybe you let me keep it all and pulls out the gun. And even Lyle's like, oh no. I didn't see that coming. As a paranoid person who lives, I would absolutely bury a gun with my money.
00:58:38
Speaker
Oh, no doubt. i had If I had money, it would all have guns next to it. It's good to know that all those crates of money you have buried around town have guns in them, too. I know can I can rob you and I can also gain an artillery. Dude, if I crates of money, you think I'd be doing this, you idiot?
00:58:54
Speaker
Yes. You don't want people to know you have money. So I put it in crates and I wear these awesome clothes that look like homeless people give me money. they're They're all the same big crate that they had in this movie, but they all have about 1750 in them.
00:59:10
Speaker
It's enough to buy a very specific four pack.
00:59:14
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They have a little bit of a standoff and he tosses the Lyle tosses the keys to JT Walsh who. Oh, because that's the running theme is he's Lyle's not dumb. Every time someone's like, where the fuck are the keys? He's like, oh,
00:59:27
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Yeah. He's like, I'm not leaving the fucking car. I've seen all of you. Right. Also, I've looked. I know what I would trust you. I know what I would do. Yep. But he does have a knife up his sleeve. Literally. Because that's this character.
00:59:43
Speaker
And he just he fucking slides this thing out and just hucks it right into J.T. Walsh's neck, who spends the rest of this movie with a knife in his neck. You got a fucking knife in your neck, dude. I like you, but you're crazy.
00:59:57
Speaker
Well, Whitney was like, well, yeah, it's stopping the blood because it's not being pulled out. And i was like, yeah, that's not why I commented on it. I commented on it because what the fuck do you've spent the last 20 minutes of your life with a knife in your fucking neck? I do.
01:00:10
Speaker
um' ah I'm with Whitney, though. i'm like, hey, at least this movie knew like you take that knife out, you're dead. Like he might still die. There's blood pooling around like the the hilt of the knife, but there's not a bunch of blood running out because it's right. It's in there.
01:00:24
Speaker
Yeah, he can't still talk. So it didn't go into the trachea. It didn't go in there. It just went through the side of the neck because your life is going to more complicated from now on.
01:00:37
Speaker
Yeah, sure. You might have to eat through a hole in your neck. But OK, sure. You have to give up yelling at babies on Saturdays and Sundays. you still have the weekday. Not Sundays. Those are my days to yell at babies at church. It's Lord's day for me to yell at babies.
01:00:51
Speaker
And on the seventh day, God yelled at babies. You know why God rested? Because he was yelling at babies. Even the good Lord has to unwind every now and then.
01:01:02
Speaker
But when he gets hit in the neck, the gun goes off. The caretaker does hear it. They don't call the cops right away. Lyle and Mike start fighting. ah Suzanne just bonks Wayne and then tries to take. She takes the money.
01:01:15
Speaker
She grabs the gun. He grabs her leg and she just smacks him in the face. That's when I commented on the knife in the neck. I was like, now you have a knife in your neck and you're being beaten with a sack of money. Oh, this is when Nick and Hopper, our Cajun Hopper are fighting. They're wrestling down. Is there there a grasshopper called the Cajun Hopper? Look at that.
01:01:34
Speaker
Cajun Hopper. There's Cajun Hoppers all over here. i'd eat there. That's just what they call rabbits in swamps. We got some Cajun Hoppers too. I'd eat it. Caught me a couple of Cajun Hoppers the other day.
01:01:46
Speaker
but Lyle has the upper hand hopper because he's just choking out in a cage with this fucking giant chain and just dragging them around like fucking Channing Tatum. And this is the end. And then we see another giant Teddy Roosevelt statue with a sword.
01:02:00
Speaker
yeah this is like this looks like uh maybe a world war ii or something because it's like maybe a civil war with this town yeah because it's like ah a soldier standing over another soldier and his gun is sticking up but it's got but it's got a real like metal bayonet on it it's all like this concrete or stone and then it's just got a metal bayonet sticking out of it like well what is that you make what is fucking statue maker like i just i want one part to be a real weapon Okay. It's going in Arizona. Is this going into your state Wilcox? Is that what you just said?
01:02:29
Speaker
We're going make part of this a weapon.
01:02:34
Speaker
So yeah, Nick Cage pushes Lyle onto the headstone with the bayonet and it goes through him and he's like, That really hurts. This is what I've doing to people. Ow.
01:02:44
Speaker
Dick move, dude. And Nick Cage, when he walks off, he's like, you know what, Lyle? I am better than you. Lyle's like, you motherfucker. He looks so hurt because of the low self-esteem. He's like, ow.
01:02:57
Speaker
That hurts worse than this. He was ready to die until you said that. Yeah. And all of a sudden, the hate's the best medicine you can ever fucking give yourself, man. And now Cage is walking back to Lara and she pulls a gun on him.
01:03:13
Speaker
But oh she oh she pulls JT Walsh's gun here, right? Yeah. Because she fucking unloads on him. Well, because we're not on Nick on Hopper. no thats like he Yeah. Dennis Hopper comes up behind Nick Cage.
01:03:25
Speaker
She shoots him a bunch of times, a bunch of times. Empties the clip. Now the caretaker is like, okay, that was at least seven to nine gunshots. I probably share i wasn't sure before.
01:03:35
Speaker
Now I know. But like, because, you know Cage has that moment of like, oh, this bitch is going to betray me. And then she shoots Lyle and he's like, oh, it was like one of those movie things. The guy was behind me. She's not going to betray me. I can trust her. You know, no, she was going to shoot you until she saw him. And then she thought I can shoot him later.
01:03:54
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. I might need him for my escape. The cops are coming. There's a train rolling by. So he runs off for the train. Suzanne grabs the cash and the gun.
01:04:06
Speaker
ah They both hop up there. There's a moment where she's like, she won't let go the money. And he's like hand me the money so I can grab your hand. and she's Or drop the money. Drop the money. And like, no. Fuck off. This whole movie's been about the money.
01:04:18
Speaker
Yeah. I'm not dropping the plot now. Yeah. She needs go watch Blood Simple. She'd learn a thing or two. But, like, she doesn't drop it, but she does toss it into the train car. Yeah. Even though it's like, well, if Nick Cage is going to drop you, he's still got your sack of money. so Right? Yeah. Now he can just kick you and you try and get it. You're going to get it.
01:04:33
Speaker
But that's not that's not Michael's character.

Escape and Final Conflicts

01:04:36
Speaker
but So the cops, as that's happening, the cops are showing up to the situation of dead people and Wayne is sitting there and as the cops pull up, Wayne is trying to pull the knife out of his neck.
01:04:49
Speaker
I don't know if you guys saw that. Oh yeah. So that was awesome. Don't touch it, you did this whole time without... He's not pulling it out. He's just reaching it up and he's like flicking it. He's like, that's weird. No, I think he wants to just die.
01:05:00
Speaker
It sounds like one of those door things. brown Oh, yeah. He wants to die instead of get arrested. Yeah. But turns out they save him and there's a sequel coming up called Bedrock West.
01:05:11
Speaker
Bed rest West. Bed rest. ah the Bed rest. The best Western ah with bed rest. The bed rest. But they get up there.
01:05:23
Speaker
The gun's in between them. They have a little you know so tense moment. And she grabs it. It goes dark. Yeah. stop going stop and Stop walking towards me. And she's like, you know, they're facing off in there. She's got the gun on him.
01:05:38
Speaker
He's like, so I guess you'll be going to Mexico by yourself. And she's got this thing like, well, there's a door. I suggest you take it before the train's going any faster. Yeah. yeah um I don't I don't want to go with you to Mexico, but can i just chill here for a little bit? Because if I jump out now, the cops will find me.
01:05:57
Speaker
Exactly right. but the money is over by cage. So he picks it up and she's like, i like you, man. Don't make me shoot you. And ah she pulls the trigger. bullets. Multiple times.
01:06:08
Speaker
And all of a sudden, she's back to being nice again. She's like, oh, wait, you know what? I had a weird moment there, but we can work this out. We can spend Hey, come on, guy. I'm fine. We can go to Mexico. We fuck on the beach and drink tequila.
01:06:20
Speaker
I can change. And I'm sitting here like, well, she tried to kill me, but she's a 1993 Laura Flynn Boyle, so maybe I go Mexico with still think that he made the wrong choice.
01:06:30
Speaker
But, dude, it's... It's a good moment because it's it's right to his character. yeah He looks at the money, he looks at her, and he just dumps that shit out the train door. And was waiting. You son a bitch. You stupid son of a bitch. because she had said, there's a door, take it. I was thought that was going to be his line. There's a door, take it. And then yeah shoves her out.
01:06:49
Speaker
But it might be better, even though it's not a callback thing there. He's like, well, go get it. And just shoves this bitch out of the train. yep its We don't always need one-liners, I guess. But it is a bad move because the cops are right there. So now she's just going to be like, hey, the other guy's on that train and they're going to stop it at the next station.
01:07:09
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, he'll be fine. survives Unless this one goes to the train station from Yellowstone. Well, and everybody, and they have their hands so fucking full right now.
01:07:20
Speaker
That they're just like, well, we found a bunch of this money. We found you and you who are wanted by the FBI. The reward is like they had a big fucking $1.9 million. $1.9 million dollar reward.
01:07:32
Speaker
I'm going to want to cash in on that. Oh, that's what was stolen. Yeah. Oh, okay. So maybe there was no reward. Either way, it's a career bump. It's a career bump. You catch these guys. Also, we got this guy that had a fence, um um ah a bayonet go through him, and then he was shot 19 times.
01:07:48
Speaker
I don't understand what's happened. we have we have questions. The guy in the train can get away, and I don't fucking care. I think that's the thing. We have all the money. Deputy Matt. I think knows that Nick Cage isn't the problem here. He was innocent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess that makes sense.
01:08:01
Speaker
And we didn't mention that ah in the train, Laura Flynn Boyle admitted to shooting ah Kurt, who was a farmhand. Yeah. So there was a reward because that's what he was.
01:08:12
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he was like He was like, I'll turn you in for the reward or give me your money. is So they stole one point nine million, but there was a reward for some a substantial amount. Yeah. Yeah. But luckily for cage, somehow one of these $5,000 bundles lodged itself right in the side of the door.
01:08:27
Speaker
So he's like, well, that's a thousand times more than I started this movie with. i I have so many $5. I have so many $5 tanks of gas gas to get right now. du And then he's adios. Red rock.
01:08:42
Speaker
And he rolls off into the sunset to Dwight Yoakam song. yep Yep. And the the trivia, some fucking country music nerd was very excited to point out that Dwight Yoakam's in this movie. This is Dwight Yoakam song.
01:08:56
Speaker
But this is a demo version, not the version from the album. Oh, you don't say. i was like, I was like, how could you tell the difference? It's country. Oh, well, because when i hear the demo version, I don't get as hard in my pants.
01:09:09
Speaker
It all sounds like a guy in a barn sitting on a pig singing a song. does. No, he can also sit on a cow, a horse, duck, chicken. A chair. A llama, depending on where fucking farm is at. A swinging chair. They don't have chairs.
01:09:26
Speaker
They have pigs. The only chairs they have rock, and he can't rock while you're singing, because then it would feel like. Yeah, he can. it's called rock and roll. Otherwise, it'd be rock and roll. Rock and roll. They're trying to do country music. You can't rock when you do country.
01:09:39
Speaker
Oh, it would sound too much like drums, and then he wouldn't be able to play at the Grand Ole Opry. Oh, yeah. Then you get kid rock. Kid rock is what happens when you try and have country music with rock and roll. Just so you're happy now.
01:09:51
Speaker
Well, he started out and it was what happens when you try to have rap with rock and roll. And then he realized that nobody cared about him anymore, but ignorant people would. oh so he switched over to being a cowboy from

Podcast Conclusion and Movie Recommendation

01:10:05
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Detroit.
01:10:05
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The kind of people that look at a skinny recovering addict in a fedora and a tank top and think that's my guy. Oh, you mean Yellow Wolf? That's my guy.
01:10:17
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Yellow Wolf on the first movie. Yeah, he's a person. Oh, man. That's the end of the movie, guys. Woo! Woo! Yeah. So ah I'm not going to start because everybody knows my recommendation. you want to start? You want me to start? Me start? You start?
01:10:30
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don't care. You're already talking. Okay. I give this a recommend. i enjoyed it. I had fun watching it. I'm... I liked it. I like it a lot.
01:10:41
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I like it a lot. Jack? um I definitely recommend it. I have reverse caveats. When you are watching for your first time, be alone and be invested. That doesn't mean don't have a cocktail or something, but it's not our normal, like, uh, uh,
01:10:56
Speaker
dead sushi that we did with the other podcast where it's like hey my patients are definitely gonna help this this was i was glad i watched this one alone because it is a slower character burn that i really really enjoyed that being said on my second watch it will be a talk watch yes where it's gonna be like hey we're having a conversation oh shut up dennis hopper's gonna do something great all right what were you saying so fully recommend without caveats first um'm I've been sober for a few days too. so Sorry to hear that. i was I'm actually okay about it.
01:11:27
Speaker
Trying to let my liver heal. Obviously, I recommend it. I recommend it to you guys. um ah Spoiler alert for this month. I recommend it. yeah you This is you recommending.
01:11:37
Speaker
You recommended everything. You recommended it to us to watch. It is not our usual kind of movie. It's not wacky and crazy. It's got it does have great Nick Cage. It's got some.
01:11:49
Speaker
I mean, I was gonna say off the wall, Dennis Hopper, but that's just Dennis Hopper. It has characters in a movie that didn't make money. That's what we love. Yeah. Yeah. I want to say not our usual thing. I just mean like, you know, there's no.
01:12:02
Speaker
Adam's like rubber monsters. There's no way. There's no Adam Sandler. There's no terrible. Oh, sorry. Rubber monsters. His wife. but But speaking of our kind of movie, next week we continue with my Over the Hill month. And all these movies are surprises for my co-hosts here. I did not know anything we're doing.
01:12:22
Speaker
Nope. We are going to be doing, we're dipping into another one of my favorite genres. Ozploitation. Ooh. okay And I felt bad for Brian Trenchard Smith, who directed Leprechaun 3, even though we all had a good time. We did know it was a trash movie.
01:12:36
Speaker
So I'm bringing on a Brian Trenchard Smith movie from Australia called Dead End Drive-In. Oh. Featuring the crow? looking I know. Why is looking like the crow? i don't even know why that guy's there.
01:12:48
Speaker
I don't think that guy's in the movie. That looks like fucking Bill Skarsgård doing the crow. Yes, but it's nothing like that. shitty eyebrows. My God. It's... it's It's an Australian movie that centers around cars, surprisingly.
01:13:03
Speaker
They don't do those often. And basically a bunch of like this guy takes a girl to a drive in theater for a date and then they have to stay there for some reason. And then they find out it's basically an internment camp for people without jobs that the government doesn't want to around.
01:13:18
Speaker
Oh, my. OK, we're headed there. So it's good to have little research. All the research. And that's available to stream on canopy, which is the library app. So get your library card and check it out there.
01:13:31
Speaker
Or you can rent it for four or buy it for five on Apple. I didn't see it on Amazon. So or um there's been a couple companies who put it out on Blu-ray and 4K. Arrow has it. I have the Arrow Blu-ray and Umbrella, obviously, because they're Australian.
01:13:47
Speaker
They put it out on 4K recently. So it's out there. And of course, guys, we have our Patreon at Patreon.com slash worst people. where you have we have two tiers, $3 tier, you get newsletter, you get early episodes of Han Took Shots first, you get all kinds of cool shit, plus your mental health episode.
01:14:04
Speaker
Wife, do you know what this month's mental health episode is? Sure don't. We already watched Donnie Darko. Oh, God, is it going to be Requiem for a Dream? and No. We've talked about this.
01:14:15
Speaker
This month's mental health episode, because the new version is coming out this month. Oh, Running Man. It's going to be 1987's The Running Man with Arnold Schwarzenegger. That was last month, Jack.
01:14:28
Speaker
What? It's this month that we're recording. This is now. Now is happening now. but yes, it will be 1987's The Running Man with Arnold Schwarzenegger. As of time of recording, Running Man on Amazon is on sale for $4.99 to purchase.
01:14:44
Speaker
That is a if i digital steal, my friends. It is a digital steal, spoiler alert, ah even I like it. it's also it's available to it It's also available on Netflix and Paramount Plus. So if you have those subscriptions, you can watch it there.
01:15:00
Speaker
um We're watching it because of the Edgar Wright. i i was was going to say remake, but I read a little bit about what the book is. I've never read the book. Edgar Wright's is closer to the book.
01:15:12
Speaker
OK, so it's not really a remake. It's a reimagining, I guess, would be which I normally am against all these reboot, remake, reimaginings. But I do like me some Edgar Wright. Do you like the human capybara also?
01:15:24
Speaker
ah Yeah, less and less. He's in a lot of stuff. He's getting Pascal'd for Jack over there. Oh. no Sorry. And then at the $5 level on our Patreon, we have our Latchkey Vids sideshow where we talk about forgotten or never known in television shows from the 90s.
01:15:44
Speaker
And this month's episode is the final episode of Cop Rock. episode 11 bang the pots so slowly bang the pots slowly there we go and uh it's a it's a weird episode yeah let's just leave it at all let's leave it at that it's a weird episode yeah it's a fun one so check that out and then of course also at the five dollar level you get ad free of episodes so if you were listening to this and you were like what are all these stupid ads i don't care about this other podcast i don't care about whatever they're trying to sell you at the beginning and the end ah church or whatever they keep putting on our shit I think the church finally listened to us and was like whoa by the way Whitney's right you should care about the other podcasts we're advertising because they're all our friends and they're all awesome they are awesome but you can get these episodes ad free at the $5 levels so that's an option too
01:16:35
Speaker
Thank you guys for tuning in. Happy birthday to me. Happy birthday to Whitney yesterday as of happy day of this releasing. birthday to my co-hosts. Happy is that 44, guys?
01:16:46
Speaker
I wouldn't have said you were a day over 17. Wait, we've been married. Ew.
01:16:53
Speaker
And of course, guys, I have to thank Evasion. She's not Ranger. I to thank Evasion for our opening and closing music. Go check them out. I've been Derek. I'm Whitney. I'm Jack.
01:17:05
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Adios, Red Rock.
01:17:37
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Welcome to Redcock. Population 69. Elevation up and down. Yeah, I like it.
01:17:49
Speaker
That's not actually me riding a Bronco. That's me riding your mom. And I always say welcome to Redcock. Every time. Oh, I've had 15 years of petty menopause.
01:18:01
Speaker
And then i hot the flashes. My ankles hurt. yeah Forget what I'm saying. ah like dark chocolate. I bleed out of my genitals. You know. I mean, you might want to get that checked.
01:18:16
Speaker
No, the auto zone said I'm all topped off on fluids. I should be good for a while.
01:18:24
Speaker
Got it. The auto erotic zone. Am I going to the wrong spot? You're getting a loop job, yeah? Welcome to androgynous zone.
01:18:36
Speaker
We will check your dipstick. yeah Are you fucking like 1940s barren villain, dude? What is happening? You sound like you're making sounds of somebody that buys and sells people.
01:18:50
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I've got rotten flesh. Leave me alone.
01:18:55
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It's fallen off of me bones. They call me Mr. Drippy Skin. Ew, gross. Yep, that's the point.