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Ep 166: Drop Zone w The Classy Alcoholic - SKYtember!
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We kick off SKYtember with the 1994 Wesley Snipes action-thriller DROP ZONE and we're bringing our good friend and Wesley Snipes expert The Classy Alcoholic from The Mixed Company Podcast along with us! U.S. Marshal Pete Nessip (Snipes) is tasked with transporting a hacker (Michael Jeter) when a midair hijacking, committed by Ty Moncrief (Gary Busey), sends the plane plummeting and the prisoner vanishes — via parachute! Nessip discovers the heist was orchestrated by an elite team of skydiving criminals planning to infiltrate a DEA database in a heist worthy of Mission: ImpossibleI. To stop them, he has to learn to skydive for some reason with the help of "welcome back" Yancy Butler, join the drop zone crowd, and pull off a daring high-altitude showdown. Strap in for parachutes, sky pranks, mid-’90s vibes, and Wesley Snipes being effortlessly cool.
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Introduction to 'Bad Movies, Worst People'
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back. It's Sky Timber. And this week, a jailbreak from a 747. That's a cool idea. I'm Derek. I'm Whitney. I'm Jack. I'm the classy alcoholic.
00:00:11
Speaker
And this is Bad Movies. Worst People.
Episode Theme Debate: Bad vs. Great Movies
00:00:51
Speaker
So I know Classy's going to disagree again that this is on Bad Movies, Worst People. That's not what the show is today. This is great movies, worst people. Well, it's directed by John Badham, so it's Badham movies, worst people.
00:01:06
Speaker
I like that. Let's call him John Greatham. Yes.
Film 'Drop Zone' and Actor Recognition
00:01:10
Speaker
I have a question for you, sir. Shoot. ah Did you recognize somebody in this movie that was also in something we watched last night and from Cobbrock?
00:01:20
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people that we recognize, but that guy in particular is like, well, Derek might have missed him. he he was still like, I have no idea who you're talking about. I know him from ah Long Kiss Goodnight. We'll get there. Cliffhanger.
00:01:36
Speaker
but we don't just He still hasn't seen him in Koprock. I just he's a bee looks like a cap. He looks like a cop. He looks like all the cops like a freaking generic cop. he does But this week we are talking about 1994's Drop Zone.
00:01:50
Speaker
Whoo. Yeah. Everybody here seen this before. Yeah. Yes, actually. Should I lie and say it was my first time? No, no. Don't ever lie to me.
00:02:01
Speaker
Oh, I Especially about Wesley Snipes. That's fucking sacred. There are few Wesley Snipes things that I've not seen.
Director John Badham and Wesley Snipes
00:02:08
Speaker
Always bet on black.
00:02:11
Speaker
That was the other movie. I know, but it's still, is it not true? it is true. I bet on red once lost my ass. So it was me. I'm sorry.
00:02:24
Speaker
Well, yes, this is 1994 is drop zone directed by John Batham, who directed such things as Saturday night fever, war games, short circuit stakeout and another stakeout.
00:02:37
Speaker
oh I've seen both of those, by the way. It's weird to go from Saturday Night Fever to Wesley Snipes' skydiving movie. Yeah, I could see it.
00:02:48
Speaker
I see the dream. know, it's one of those things where you get, like, a guy who directs something that's totally different from his next project, like ah Peter Jackson directing Lord of the Rings. You know, he did something like Saturday Night Fever, then to something epic and amazing that will stand the test of time forever.
00:03:02
Speaker
Yeah. I think he read this script and was like, it's all right. and're like, going Wesley Snipes skydiving. Oh, I'm in. I'll direct the fuck out of that. Yeah. Because, i mean the end of the day, dude, the sky pranks in this movie are phenomenal.
00:03:14
Speaker
Yeah. Sky pranks. I don't know if Wesley Snipes actually did any skydiving. But eighty yard there were people skydiving for sure. He did not. Actually, i looked it up. The only actor who did an actual skydive was Michael Jeter.
00:03:28
Speaker
Which one's Michael Jeter? That's ah checky guy the guy, the little guy. that Oh, shit.
Skydiving Themed Month: 'Sky Timber'
00:03:35
Speaker
a little So the only one who actually did skydiving was the one who was afraid of skydiving in the movie. I don't want to jump again.
00:03:42
Speaker
All the ones who were badass skydivers were like, nah. meanss He's a great actor, man. He's like, he really made me feel like he was terrified. Yeah. ah There's a bunch of writers on this.
00:03:53
Speaker
Two of them are just credited with the story. They're professional skydivers who came up with the story. Tony Griffin and Guy Manos. ah They also wrote and directed another movie we're going to be talking about this month.
00:04:05
Speaker
ah Cutaway with Tom Berenger. Part of the Major League Skydiving Trilogy. Yeah. I kind of found it on accident one night, watched it, was like, well, I think Derek was watching either this or Terminal Velocity at the same time.
Box Office Game: 'Drop Zone'
00:04:20
Speaker
We're like, we got a theme month.
00:04:21
Speaker
Then the name Sky Timber came up and was like, done, done. Now we have to wait till September. What did I have for December? Oh, Desheen-ber. It's going to all Charlie Sheen. Or Martin Sheen.
00:04:35
Speaker
it's As long as it's Sheen, it's De-Sheen-ber. Now are you going include Emilio Estevez or is that kind of... No, because he doesn't he doesn't include it. okay he's he's He's true enough to keep his original name. He's not going to get roasted on this podcast. Not for that, at least.
00:04:51
Speaker
Estevez-ber. Sorry, wait, cut that out, cut that out. Nope, I like it. Estevez-ber. Estevez-ber. Better than Estevez-er. Esteve-buary. Oh, guy you beat me. You beat me. You got it.
00:05:06
Speaker
And we got a couple of the writers, Peter Barsacini. ah The only thing I saw that he
Casting Speculations for 'Drop Zone'
00:05:12
Speaker
wrote that I recognize was school. Barsacini would a pretty cool place to get a drink. Like some Magroni or something. He wrote a high school musical. So talking about things people doing things that are different.
00:05:23
Speaker
Yeah. And then another guy, John Bishop. was a reverse Peter Jackson. Yeah. He went from epic to garbage. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to assume high school musicals garbage. I'm never going to watch it. So I think you can assume correctly.
00:05:36
Speaker
Feels like you can assume correctly. So we'll start out as we usually do by playing a little box office game. yeah. You guys want to know the budget? Please. our budget thirty five forty forty five million dollars ok All right. million. right. $45 million, Dahlhares. This is 1994.
00:05:54
Speaker
I only have one number. I don't know if this was a worldwide release or not. I can only find one number. Lady first. um One number.
00:06:05
Speaker
Let's do... You know what? You said 96, right? 94. 94. And it's the second skydiving movie of the year.
00:06:17
Speaker
Let's say 50.
00:06:22
Speaker
50 million? Yep. Classy? I'm going to say since it was 94, probably wasn't a worldwide release because the studio was racist and didn't yeah care to promote Wesley Snipes movies.
00:06:33
Speaker
I'm going to go 55. 55.
00:06:38
Speaker
They're trying to piggyback off of all the other, like, point break, but that's not happening. $28.7 million. dollars Yeah. yeah i just win i just had a feeling because it was, well, we win because get to watch this great movie.
Skydiving Movie Trends in the 90s
00:06:52
Speaker
Just because it's on this podcast, I figure it didn't do well, but that's because people didn't know what they had in the 90s with Wesley Snipes. We didn't know. Now we have all these generic-ass frickin' action stars.
00:07:05
Speaker
We don't have a Wesley Snipes anymore. He doesn't exist. Closest thing we have is Idris Elba. We don't even have skydiving movies anymore. Tom Cruise is the only guy actually doing it. True. Everything else is just like fake jumping off of planes. And here's the thing.
00:07:19
Speaker
I don't even need the stars to. I don't need John Cena to jump out of a plane, but I want his fucking stunt double to do it. Yeah. agree Someone has to jump out. I mean, like i'm I'm going to blame 1994 that we don't get skydiving movies because Drop Zone and Terminal Velocity both came out in the same month. And, you know, we haven't talked about Terminal Velocity yet, so no numbers. But spoiler alert, it also did not do that well.
00:07:41
Speaker
Spoiler alert, it's on this podcast. This one came out in December, and I think that one came out in September. But they were real close. The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers movie next year had a skydiving sequence at the beginning. Oh, you better believe it. Yeah. Oh, that was skyboarding, my friend.
00:08:00
Speaker
Oh, skyboarding. That's right. You're still diving out of a plane. Any guesses as to who was supposed to originally play U.S. Marshal Pete Nessup?
00:08:11
Speaker
Give me. Is it another black fella? It is definitely not. As far from that as can get. Arnold Schwarzenegger. No, but that be hilarious. Watching Arnold Schwarzenegger jump out of the plane. You would fall like a rock. for Harrison Ford. You would need to listen to him. It would be Svenel Thorsen jumping out of the plane. That's a real good point. No, not Harrison Ford, though, Jack.
00:08:33
Speaker
Danny DeVito. No, I think he might have Willis? I think he might have been lined up to play Wesley Snipes' character in the last movie we discussed as well. Passenger 57 I can't remember if it was him or not Chevy Chase We talked about the boss potentially being in passenger 57 Okay, so it wasn't that then Steven Seagal ah But he had he was he turned it down he left the project so he was already on board Just because none of the chicks would fuck him like every well every chick on set was like nobody's like I'm out of here
00:09:09
Speaker
He had to return to screen as Navy SEAL Casey Ryback in Under Siege 2, Dark Territory. Ah. This is, you know how people say, oh, this character was cast so well, I could never see anybody else playing him? This is the opposite. I could see literally any other actor other than Steven Seagal play this character. this Yeah. You're not wrong.
00:09:29
Speaker
Was Chris Farley still alive back then? Hey, hey. You killed my brother. Yeah. that That would be his brother. Dan Aykroyd would be Wesley Snipes and ah Chris Farley would be Malcolm Jamal Warner. There you go.
00:09:45
Speaker
When he fell out of the plate, he would just go all on the way down. You've got to be kidding me. You set me up with a Mongolian feminist that bit my nose off.
00:10:01
Speaker
Yeah, you're not wrong, though. i mean, you could have anybody playing him. Yeah. how could guys girls that ah know I mean, he could have done it. Maybe.
The Fear and Thrill of Skydiving
00:10:10
Speaker
Get off my plane. Actually, I'll get off my plane.
00:10:15
Speaker
this This movie is too lighthearted for him. like He just takes himself too damn seriously. Everybody else is there. Yancy Butler's having fun. All the team is yeah they're having a good time. They're supposed to be buddy-buddy by the end. I don't see Steven Seagal that. Now you do it Chris Pratt.
00:10:31
Speaker
True. Yeah. excuse you yeah Not 94, obviously. No, I don't think he was a baby. Two-year-old Chris Pratt. I don't know how old he is. He's got to be our age.
00:10:41
Speaker
so if he's If he's my age, he would have been nine. He's probably closer to me, if not a little older than me. He still wouldn't have been. he's He's still a kid. Although you shove a 12-year-old out of a plane, I'm back in. That ups your stars.
00:10:57
Speaker
In 94, I was about to be 14 when this came out. Shove a 14 out of a plane. It ta loses one more star. Because when they were 12, it was funnier. 14-year-old Marshalls going after Gary Busey.
00:11:10
Speaker
That's right. I'm going to back to teeth first. always You know, you said the get off my plane line, and I just thought, I was like, oh, we should have done Air Force One, too. Nobody really skydives, but...
00:11:21
Speaker
They're skydiving. Gary Oldman. I was like, I think Gary Oldman kind of skydives at the end of that movie. just doesn't have a parachute. Accidentally. The hostages do jump out of the plane and parachute out.
00:11:32
Speaker
I know, before the the big finale. That does happen. Next Sky Timber. Because we're going to have to start reaching. yeah And it does take place in the sky. so yeah Yeah, I mean, we got three solid skydiving movies. One that's a sports movie. Another one that's a remake, an extreme sports movie. so Next Sky Timber is all airplanes.
00:11:50
Speaker
Next Sky Timber. Also, so what like a live... ah Yeah, Alive would be good. ah Money Plane with America's favorite Kelsey Grammer.
00:12:03
Speaker
ah Con Air for the Patreon. Thank you. I've hurt myself like very badly.
Plot and Character Motivations in 'Drop Zone'
00:12:10
Speaker
So this movie starts, as most skydiving movies, in prison.
00:12:14
Speaker
And we have Earl Leedy, played by Michael Jeter, who's one of the 40 welcome backs in this movie. So many. I was going to write him down, then I was like, I'm out of ink. i so I started looking at people and I was like, oh, I'm just going to write down the movies they were in that we already talked about.
00:12:30
Speaker
but Yeah. So he was in Waterworld. Sorry, what movie do I remember Michael Jeter having a bunch of rashes on him from? i who was and i was a kid. i He was in the Green Mile. Yeah.
00:12:42
Speaker
Did he have a bunch of rashes on him? Because I remember him being all sweaty and clammy. and I don't know. I'm not remembering. I just remember him in a hot air balloon in Waterworld. may making it up. It might be another guy. He's the one that gets wrongfully fried. Not wrongfully fried, but inhumanely fried.
00:13:01
Speaker
and remember like He also does a Evening Shade with Burt Reynolds, and he's delightful. Mm-hmm. He is a delightful actor. I do like him. I like this guy. And one of the most tragic parts of this movie, he's in love with these little cats.
00:13:14
Speaker
And the reason I say it's tragic is because they make a big deal about these cats right up until the point where the entire plane starts exploding. And I'm like, cats dead I don't think those cats made it. And if they did make it, you're never going to see them again. They're going to live under your couch.
00:13:28
Speaker
but somebody tries to, somebody tries to shiv him. Uh, it's nothing personal though. sounds personal Yeah. And then we're introduced to our brothers, Wesley Snipes and Malcolm Jamal Warner playing Pete and Terry Nessup.
00:13:44
Speaker
Uh, yeah. Malcolm Jamal Warner just passed away very recently. fucking hey yeah Just recently passed. I was three weeks ago from day of recording. Yeah. That's fucked up. Yeah. um You know what? Oh, bro. I just realized Malcolm Jamal Warner was Theo Huxtable. We live in a world where Malcolm Jamal Warner died and Bill Cosby is still alive. i I used to think, you know what? I used to think I was an atheist. I think I believe in God and just think he hates us.
00:14:10
Speaker
I think he's an asshole, honestly. I think he just, like, has to exist. We are already in hell. We are enduring it. it's It's an intelligent design, but intelligently intelligently designed by an asshole.
00:14:23
Speaker
yeah' got A ah bully. A bored ass bully. But they're having their little ah they're they're chat with each other and it's just Wesley Snipes doing Wesley Snipes stuff. So he's like, i like my women nice, quiet and dumb. Not like that Mongolian feminist you said. I think he said dull.
00:14:39
Speaker
Dull. Dull. Derek, Wesley Snipes is not a sexist. No, because I thought I know this kind of character. He's a sexist. He just likes them quiet. He knows. Okay, that's true. That's fair. He definitely says dull because he's like, I'm not trying to go out and do things all the time. Yeah, he's a U.S. Marshall.
00:14:56
Speaker
I thought he just wanted him dumb so they wouldn't question him. yeah Just wants to hang out with some girl that eats with her toes. yeah Yeah. That was for you, wasn't it, Jack? When he's talking about the girl that he wants to set her up with, set him up with, and he's like, what, she cook with her toes? I was like, Jack is like, sign me up.
00:15:11
Speaker
Didn't know that was possible. Can I get some tofu? ah Tarantino in the theater in 94 going, oh, mama. Oh man, movie's gonna be so much better than polk Pulp Fiction.
00:15:24
Speaker
um Also, it is. Also, the the Mongolian feminist, that's a very 90s thing. like what is What's the weirdest thing we come up with? like a feminist She's a feminist.
00:15:35
Speaker
And from Mongolia, isn't that weird? like I'm just picturing like a really hot Asian chick with a bunch of tattoos and a lot of sass. yeah Does yoga keep a tight little butt?
00:15:46
Speaker
There you go. I'm in. like They're going to the prison to get Leedy, who ah he's there because he cut a deal to to testify against the triads, but they found him. And now it's their job to protect him.
00:15:59
Speaker
Maybe it's because it's such a weird dude that you stand out wherever you go. yeah There he is. Well, they they they talk about basically he's he's supercomputer guy. He's like he can crack codes that don't even exist or some shit. He born into a computer.
00:16:13
Speaker
here was bone hacking computer yeah You merely adapted to it as a lawnmower man. if You merely plugged in your adapter to it. That's what he is. He's a lawnmower man.
00:16:24
Speaker
He hasn't plugged in yet. You merely adopted these cats. They were born here. one of one of them was born in that prison because it's a tiny little kitten. like It is a tiny little kitten. That cat was born there.
00:16:37
Speaker
And so they take him on a plane and we start seeing our entire cast of bad guys who I got even being inconspicuous. No, I got a couple of them. There's Gary Busey playing time on grief of course, of course.
00:16:51
Speaker
And then a Jagger is played by Luca Barovici. Who we will we will see again of one he's in scanner cop, which but might not be an episode but I'll have you guys watch it because it rules and then to the other thing I recognize is live wire Which we're gonna have to talk about one day that's Mountain Dew that's the Pierce Brosnan bomb defusing movie I'm sorry. Oh, oh, Rosnan defusing bombs.
00:17:18
Speaker
Okay is Linda Hamilton that one. Oh I don't remember. Okay. It has almost that movie and blown away, which is the Jeff Bridges bomb defusing. Tom Lee Jones have the same scene where the guy is in between a woman's leg defusing bombs.
00:17:34
Speaker
Legs. Did they come out the same year? Like it was that that we already have the volcano Dante's peak of 94 with terminal velocity in this. Or do we have a little Armageddon and a deep impact?
Comparing 'Drop Zone' to Similar Films
00:17:47
Speaker
Or Bugs Life and Ants. There you go. Let's see. like Those did come out like back to back. Same year. oh Livewire came out in 92. Blown Away came out in 94.
00:17:58
Speaker
Damn. So close. So close. Same year as these though. um And then there's the other people. I think the girl, i think I recognized her from best of the best, too. But I don't even we don't think we get her character's name at any point.
00:18:11
Speaker
She looked at first. I thought that was Yancy Butler because she looks very much like her. And they're only showing them in quick snaps. Yeah. But it turns out, Rager, it turns out Jagger just has a type. He's like, I want another chick that looks like my old chick.
00:18:24
Speaker
Yeah. Been there, bro. ah Her name is actually... Just less eyebrows. Her name is Kara because only because the subtitles were on, I don't think anybody said the name. Oh, okay. Right? He couldn't Kara about it.
00:18:36
Speaker
He might... Busey might say it when he's like, you were just deployed. Jagger never really was with you. He was with Kara the whole time. He was with Kara the whole time. I think just points at her. He's like, he was with this thing because I don't care about it. Oh, you know what? Gary Busey does say when she's dead.
00:18:52
Speaker
Oh, does He's like, Kara! Kara! Oh, damn it! Oh, that's true, you're right. I don't know if this is code or if he thinks he's about to bang this ah flight attendant, but she comes by and she's like, ah excuse me, sir, would you like some wine? I only drink wine by the candlelight.
00:19:12
Speaker
I think I can help you with that. And fucking Malcolm Jamal Warner's like, This motherfucker. At first, I thought it was like a pickup I'm like, of course she would. Of course you take the chance to have a candlelit wine with Wesley Snipes in an airplane. ah She's making fuck guys, though. She is making fuck guys. I think what she's thinking is, look, that was not a character choice.
00:19:32
Speaker
Yeah, I need you to talk to the captain. Something's going afterwards. Come and meet me. Talk to the captain. Talk to the captain, then come and meet me for some wine. The captain's in between my legs right now, so come have a conversation. Would you mind saluting it a bit?
00:19:45
Speaker
Now look away. but I guess he gets a warning that they're about to be taken over, but then it just... It happens and they just start did they they don't give a fuck. They just start shooting people like the one dude. He's like, ah put your hands up and sit still. And the guy just kind of looks at him. He's not listening and just puts three holes in him. He did think that was the Marshall, though.
00:20:07
Speaker
Oh, because they switched seats. Yeah. Oh, that's right. It didn't click until just now. Watch it twice before this show. Oh, yeah. Because that's where Wesley Snipes was sitting. I figured that as soon as he was like, you want an aisle seat? I'm like, well, that guy's going to die because it's supposed to be Wesley Snipes sitting there.
00:20:24
Speaker
Okay. okay Because yeah then he shoots Terry and he takes Leedy and bites off one of his fingers. And I was like, what? I just watched this movie last year. And I was like, i remembered that he was working with them. But I was like, why is he a biting off his finger? God didn't want me to bite off your fingers, why would he give me such perfect teeth to do so? That is what I'm asking you.
00:20:47
Speaker
You could save money on a dentist. have any idea how much money you would save by being a chicken person? and You don't have to go to the dentist. I use a toilet brush when I'm going to bed and brush my teeth.
00:21:01
Speaker
yeah Treat your finger like a little carrot.
00:21:08
Speaker
I use jumper cables when I floss.
00:21:14
Speaker
ah terry Terry shoots Gary Busey back Terry shoot Gary Terry back up Terry and then gary sorry back up sir That's exactly what I said when he started going up ah the hole in the wall. Well, because it's a long thing of like, Terry, Terry, hold on, Terry, Terry. And all I just thought was back up.
00:21:31
Speaker
Terry, what you doing? Oh, Lord, Terry, are you doing? Lord, Terry. Do you know what we're talking about? If people don't know, yeah. There's a video on the internet of a guy and a wheelchair who's lighting a bunch of fireworks.
00:21:43
Speaker
And then as he's trying to back away, the chair stops working. And the fireworks start going off, and the guy filming it just keeps screaming, Oh, Lord, Terry! Oh, Lord, what are you Terry, what are you doing? I do remember this, though.
00:21:55
Speaker
Oh, that's great. This one of the best things ever. It is. But they start Snipes and Busey start fighting a bit. The other guys blow up the emergency door. All these people start flying out.
00:22:06
Speaker
The bad guys skydive out. Malcolm John Warner gets a couple shots on Buse, but he's wearing a bulletproof vest. Yeah. i was I thought maybe he just shot him in the... It's a parachute. Yeah. He's like, i can still parachute down with a couple holes. Maybe. Yeah, maybe it was. I just because he double taps him.
00:22:23
Speaker
But he does. say the little girl I taped a bunch of one dollar coins all over my body just for such. Yeah, a bunch of people go flying out and this little girl almost goes Malcolm Jamal Warner saves her.
00:22:37
Speaker
um Wesley Snipes ends up pulling her all the way back and then he's trying to hold on to Terry who flies out the window or the terry got a window. It's an accidental window. He goes out the giant hole. And like i was thinking about it. I was like, God, that's fucked up, dude. That's your brother. like There's all these situations where something terrible could happen. You could be like, oh maybe he's okay.
00:22:59
Speaker
This is not one of those situations. No, no, no, no. And we and we have to experience Michael Jamal Warner dying again. the only way he lives through this if he had a big rock with him and he can somehow like guide himself towards water.
00:23:14
Speaker
And just drop the rock right before it hits the water, break the surface tension. Tsunami theory. Yeah, tsunami theory. I'm pretty sure I can survive it. We're amongst friends here. I could be vulnerable, right? This is the most terrifying way I can think of dying is falling, not just out of a plane, but someplace high enough that I can start thinking about my mistakes before I die.
00:23:33
Speaker
yeah That's horrifying. Because here's the thing. If you fall off, like, i don't know like, four or five stories, all you think is, like, fuck, I'm going to die. But if it's just like, fuck, I should have called my mom more. What did they say, like 10,000 feet or something?
00:23:46
Speaker
Yeah. At some point, you just stop screaming and you're just like, well, what else did I fuck up today? I think I would i think i would go mall rats and just like start cranking.
00:23:57
Speaker
Just take it out and just like, see let's see if I can get one before I hit the ground. This is going to confuse the forensics team. He died covered in semen. Let's see whose it is.
00:24:08
Speaker
Oh, it's his. where You actually cum like a thousand feet up in the air still. It's just like ah bullets into people. You're trying. there yeah Now you're falling and you're trying to dodge your cum. There are definite signs of struggle, but that looks all self-inflicted. and Like he was choking himself.
00:24:28
Speaker
Or you could shoot down toward the water and create a tsunami theory. Yes. enough yeah but yeah but Why bring a big rock when you got a big cock? now and I believe Malcolm Jamal Warner. Got it.
00:24:39
Speaker
You could also you could also shit right before. that's kind I shit when I jack it anyway, and at the same time. So that's going to work. Let's have some class. If I have to shit to save my life, I'd rather die.
00:24:51
Speaker
yeah I don't know. Shitting is pretty fun. You ever done from 10,000 feet? I've done it a plane. Can you imagine how many people in the plane shit their pants?
00:25:04
Speaker
They survive and then it had to land and they'd be like, fuck, I kind of wish I fell out the window. The terrorists came by. they They took my underwear off and put these poop-filled underwears on me. I don't know why, but they said, good luck.
00:25:16
Speaker
They did it to a couple other people it smells like. they They said if we shit ourselves, we can survive. we can shit on command. One of them had a gun. One of them had a bag of shit. It's just forcing it into my pants.
00:25:30
Speaker
Oh, great. So we put poop him on to her. And we meet Wesley Snipes' boss, Tom McCracken, played by Andy Romano, who is another welcome back. He plays ah the assistant coach, Leach, in Major League.
00:25:43
Speaker
Yeah, okay. I didn't IMDB anybody. He's also one of the admirals, which is where I recognized him from first. Okay, at a war table. Under Siege. That's right. that's where i was That's where I thought I knew him.
00:25:54
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His mouth reminds me of the... Interesting start. Oh, and me shit turns to sherbet. Oh, Brian Cox. Yeah, Brian Cox. Oh, me shit turns to Sherbert. Hey shit, Sherbert mouth.
00:26:08
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But do you get all that Sherbert in your pants.
00:26:13
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Hijackers on a plane, bro. Terrorists. But they're trying to like, I don't know, use computers to look at the black box or something. They're doing something with tippity taps and plugged into the plane.
00:26:24
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And all the stuff starts crashing. And Wesley Snipes is like, oh, it's that little Weasley fuck. No, he's dead. Exactly. The FBI blames his brother. ah They say they found the remains of all the terrorists and they they know they found Leedy because they found his finger.
00:26:39
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Yeah. which So now I'm like, oh, all right. Gary Busey is not just weird. They had to write that in the script. Why did you bite that dude's finger off? i I thought he was trying to get the handcuffs off of him.
00:26:53
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Like slide them off. Oh, fuck. I took it as like, that's the way, because they said they definitely found remains of Leedy and then they found other burnt bodies that were burnt beyond recognition and they couldn't tell who they were.
00:27:05
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So they assumed they were the terrorists. Which snipes on right away. He's like, come on. Why is why is it just the terrorists that are burnt under unrecognizable? Yeah, exactly. But they even have ah Gary Busey. They show it throughout this. He's always got a fall guy set up because in this one it was like some maintenance guy.
00:27:21
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Yep. they They planted bombs and shit at his apartment so that when they called in an anonymous report or whatever, they went and checked and they're like, oh, it was the maintenance guy. Well, spoiler for the movie.
00:27:32
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He's ex-DEA. Yeah. Yeah. He knows what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah.
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00:27:37
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And we have their other cohort who does not skydive, ah Deuce, played by Mickey Jones, who's yet another. Welcome back. Mickey Jones, Andy.
00:27:47
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see Most people, i mean, like we talked about it when we saw him before. I recognize him from Home Improvement. He was one of the guys in the construction band. We had him on Dutch. He was on Dutch. And then way, way back a thousand years ago, he was on Savage Dawn, too, one of our very first episodes.
00:28:03
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00:28:40
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00:29:10
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ah do All the bad guys show up and what's this guy's name? Deuce is like, hey, man, they're buying it. Oh, that's why he doesn't skydive with them. His nickname is Deuce because he shits his pants when he skydives. Also, he drives the truck.
00:29:24
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and they're like He drives the truck because he can wear Depends and that. Well, they're like, we can't be sneaking into de facilities and stuff with a guy who smells like shit. They're going find us. yeah He's leaving DNA everywhere.
00:29:36
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it was his idea to put shit in all the hostages in the plane in their How'd you get that nickname? Take your belt off and I'll show you. I can shit other people's pants so well.
00:29:51
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it's kind of a kind of my thing. kind of I don't want to sound like I'm bragging or anything, but I can shit anybody's pants. Guess what? I just shit in your pants, Jack. Like a butt ventriloquist.
00:30:02
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The yearbook I was most likely to shit in class.
00:30:08
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It's only because he did. That's a good point. Most likely to do it again. Wesley Snipes gets ah put on administrative leave. Don't worry, guys. He's getting paid. He's a cop.
00:30:19
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And he goes off and meets with this. don't know, man. He didn't shoot anybody.
00:30:24
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He meets with some military dude who sends him off to meet the other hero of the movie. But I like how he's like to make that jump. You have to be really skilled or dick brained. Really skilled would be Jagger because he's like a skydiving champion, whatever.
00:30:38
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And dick brained would be Jess Crossman. And Jess Crossman, definitely a dude. down the road. Yeah, yeah. Definitely guy. I like that he Wesley Snipes was able to figure it out without her walking out and having that like, wait, what moment? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:53
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No, no, no. I'm looking for Jess Cross, like the the the boss of this place. Yeah, that's me. No, no. Like yourre your husband or your father maybe? Right. We're skipping over the whole thing that leads him on this investigation that nobody believes that these guys, these terrorists would have parachutes.
00:31:09
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They're treating it like some kind of new AI technology in the 90s. Like a computer can't read your email. you can't send Yeah, because even the military guys, like it's impossible to get this rigged through.
00:31:21
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ah Security. Yeah. And then they they're talking about how the jump is nearly impossible. don't know, man. The reason he went and talked to that hasn't happened yet. Well, the reason he went and talked to that guy is because that guy led a or was in charge of a SEAL team that did a jump out of a commuter plane. Yeah. So he's like, I think it's a a smaller plane and a little bit lower.
00:31:40
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Yeah. And slower. He's like, that's the big thing. They were like at 500 knots. It would be nearly impossible. And then the the the metal D clips and all of that shit. He's like, you no one could ever get these through the TSA.
00:31:56
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Which I don't like. It's pretty obvious, dude. They could just use plastic ones or as it turns out, nylon, baby pylon whatever they're
Technology in Skydiving Films
00:32:04
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using. Yeah. I've never seen a parachute in my life in person.
00:32:08
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But if you told me parishes can have metal class or not metal class, I'd be like, that makes sense. Yeah, 100%. believe that. I don't understand what the big mystery of this movie is. It was written by skydivers.
00:32:19
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That's fair. They're trying to make it sound cooler than it is. i mean, I'm not going to it's not cool. I would never do it. So I have no ah skin in this game. But why would you never do it? as fuck For the same reason, Wesley Snipes didn't want to do it.
00:32:31
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Are you fucking kidding me? That's the reason.
00:32:37
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I think it looks like fun. But we do meet Jess Crossman, who's played by Yancey Butler, who is also in Hard Target. So welcome Those eyebrows. That's right.
00:32:49
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And the people she works with, Wynonna, who's played by Grace Zabriskie, who I know from Twin Peaks. um i know her from armageddon just i don't even think she has a speaking line it's when the guy sees the asteroids like i want to name it after my wife dotty a relentless bitch from when there was no escape from and she just fucking middle fingers him weird Yeah, she did Twin Peaks and a couple other David Lynch movies, and that's why. i so I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what I know her from besides that.
00:33:21
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Yeah, she's a face. And then this other guy, Selkirk, who I got his name, of I don't know, 20 minutes before the movie ended, um played by someone named Corin Nemec. And he was also in Operation Dumbo Drop, so that's kind of oh yeah yeah skydiving.
00:33:35
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He's the... ah He's the tall, the skinny white dude, Peewee? Yeah, Selly. Oh. they keep They keep calling him Peewee. She calls him something. Or in this? No, in this. His name Selly.
00:33:47
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He's the mechanic, but as she comes up at one point. shit Multiple times she calls him Peewee. Sweet Pee. sweety Sweet pea, thank you. Same fucking thing I do like, though, so she takes him up because she's like, I got to go it on skydive. You want to talk to me? You can come up, too. You got to pay for a lesson. Yeah. note He's like, why am I wearing this getup without a parachute? I'm like, don't get in that plane without a parachute, dude. I saw that plane land.
00:34:08
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Yeah, so did he So did he. Well, I love it. He talks shit to her. If I was in the plane that got blown up by these guys, i i would never get on a plane without a parachute. First of all, I never get on a plane again, period. yeah But without a parachute ever again. I wouldn't even go in a tall building without a parachute after this. Exactly.
00:34:26
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Which we see is perfectly a perfectly reasonable thing to have. Yeah. People just jumping off buildings and with parachutes all all over this movie. It's like, what do we do? Undefeatable. Everyone just knows karate and kung fu.
00:34:38
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yeah This is like, oh, it's a skydiving city. Everyone knows how to base jump. All right, I'll see you tomorrow for work. But he's talking shit about her place, and he's like, if you're so good, then why do you still work in this shithole? And she's like, excuse me? And just basically drops him out of these like Bombay doors on the bottom of this thing. love it. I love a trap door.
00:34:58
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Didn't know needed a trap door in an airplane, but we got it. Yeah. ah And then, of course, she jumps out and saves him and he punches her in the face, which is very funny. Didn't remember that.
00:35:09
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and And I got a good chuckle out of it. it's It's funny because I read a thing. I guess originally the character was a man before they she got hired and they rewrote some stuff, obviously. So they kept the name Jess.
00:35:20
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But they took out the punching in the face and Yancey Butler was like, no, I think you should leave it in because it makes perfect sense. Like, have punch me in the fucking face. Good on her. Good. That's fantastic. And let's let's not skip over the fact that this is a real skydiving stunt with people flying through the air, one person grabbing the other one by their by his legs and then strapping together and actually doing it on camera. like yeah Yeah, that was fantastic. No, it's great because like at first I started thinking like, oh, no, is this all fake skydiving? Because they don't show the people much at first. They show the of awful like face stuff where they're probably on one of those fan things like we see later. then they do a green screen in the background or whatever so you can see the actors' faces. I think they just strung up and they got a leaf blower pointed at them.
00:36:04
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But most of it's shot in the wide shot. And you so it's just real people jumping out of real planes. They get the golf clap. yeah Yeah. This movie does the thing over and over again where it makes you think it's going to fake something and then it just does it.
00:36:17
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Yep. I wrote down every time that happened because it looks amazing. like Yeah. We do find out that she was involved with Jagger, but she doesn't talk to him anymore because something about drugs and she did time for him.
00:36:30
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Yep. And then bailed on her. So, well, it's because we find out she was his fault guy. Yeah. The Cara Barra. had a backup. um I do like that. They're basically are they torturing lady with skydiving or are they just trying to get him used to it? They're trying to get him used to it because they're on a time limit to get everything done. And he's like, I have to breathe. Yeah, because these big Jagger jumps in with them.
00:36:54
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They try to get him to do some hacking shit. And he's like, I need a moment to like collect myself and they're like, rope do it again. Don't have a moment. At first, I was just like, are they just like, he doesn't like it. Take him up and do it again. This is their version of torture. They're like, it's great for us. It's not. You'll learn. No, this is all just practice. practice okay yeah it's a training exercise also again you you see michael jeter hanging out of a plane and you think it's like faked and then they're just using a wind machine but then you follow that those fuckers off of the plane and into the sky so michael jeter actually did that uh did that jump and i thought it was going to be fake at first just amazing that is fantastic that must be the one
00:37:34
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Because I read something about one where it was like somebody was supposed to do a jump and the insurance wouldn't allow it.
Michael Jeter's Skydiving Stunts
00:37:39
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And the the actor or the director said no. But most of the stunts, as usual, are second unit.
00:37:45
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So there's different people shooting it. So they went and shot it. And then the director saw it. And he was like, dude, what the fuck? And Michael Jeter it was like, wasn't me. it was just a really good stunt double. I wondered for a second if they get somebody that looks a lot like him and put a fake mustache. But no, I watched it twice. That was Michael fucking Jeter.
00:38:04
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Well, and you watched it in this awesome 4K that I have here, too. Yeah. So you could tell if it's and if it's the stunt double or not. Yeah. do you want us to leave the room? ah Yeah. Leave me and Derek the 4K and the 85-inch TV alone.
00:38:17
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00:38:43
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Yeah. um So Snipes goes and questions the little girl. And of course, as you would if you were a small child who'd been in that situation, she's like, I don't know. I don't remember anything. I went to sleep and then woke up on the ground.
00:38:56
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Nothing happened. It's like something traumatic happened. It's weird. and And he's like, how about this? And just starts talking to her and showing her pictures. And she's... She's freaking the fuck out. Super fucking traumatized. And he's just like, no, the mom's trying to pull her away. It's okay. You can talk to me. Look at the picture. I need name. Give me a fucking name.
00:39:12
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Just ruining this girl's life. And then he's so happy. He's like clapping his hands basically just like, oh, I got it. I got it. Or like tapping the table or something. Oh, and can't forget that Gary Busey told Jagger that there were no witnesses except for that little bitch that saw you. You should have thrown her out of the plane. This is like a six-year-old child.
00:39:33
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this is up eighteen teeth They are riper when they're younger. Easier to pit off than man's fingy.
00:39:44
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But she does ID Jagger and it turns out they have an inside man with the Miami police who calls and tells them what's going on. How does no one suspect this guy? He looks like a crooked cop. He does. Well, because he's in Miami and that's how they all look.
00:39:56
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Balding ponytail like a skullet, but it's in a ponytail. Dude, that fucking skullet ponytail and those sunglasses. He's probably helping ninja sell cocaine in Orlando.
00:40:08
Speaker
Yeah. In the worst movie ever. um So there's another jump because that's just like not even close. mean They just don't even know. Third best movie ever after passenger 57 in this one.
00:40:21
Speaker
I disagree with some of his list, but not all of it until we have classy back for like blade and then it gets pushed down one more. And then we have, yeah but like anytime they're just like, there's a lull in the movie.
00:40:37
Speaker
The script is like, great idea. They go jumping. Yeah. yeah So there's another skydive, but this is when Gary Busey found out that Jagger was identified. So he like fucks with him and basically just pulls him and leads him into a substation.
00:40:52
Speaker
Just puppeteers him. Turns this dude into a fucking corndog that's been left in the fryer too long. Yep. I stared into an electrical grid and now he is popcorn. It's The stunt double literally scoops up the parachute in midair. Like he literally grabs the guy's parachute and you really see it happen.
00:41:10
Speaker
I didn't even know. this That's another thing. Shit in this movie that I never thought was physically possible while Sky died. Yeah. yeah It was fantastic. He's just like, and you're mine. Yeah, because Jagger was fucking with one of the other people. They were doing sky pranks, and that's when Gary Busey swooped in. Yeah, just literally picked it up and was like, no, we're going this way now.
00:41:27
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Yoink.
00:41:30
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The old puppeteer move. They've got nicknames for a lot of moves. It's kind of cool. Looks like that was a gift wrap. Dude, I just i love that there's a nickname. We'll get there just a minute, but a nickname for taking somebody's parachute and wrapping it around, or to your your parachute, wrapping it around someone.
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah. It's called gift wrapping. No, that's called murder. How often does it happen? They named it. How often does this happen they have to call it? More than once. More than once. and Well, they they come up with all these names at this skydiving bar that they hang out at.
00:42:02
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Which the bar itself has a skydiving name, doesn't it? ah Burn-In. Yeah, something like that. Burn-In. Yeah. The Burn-In. They got a skeleton like skydiving on the on the sign there on the logo.
00:42:14
Speaker
Because when you die, essentially when you're skydiving, it's called a burn-in. Almost got after long dead. Wait, is that true? Yeah, we find that out right now. Yeah, because they talk about someone burned in today, and that's why they're all doing the toast. Yeah, okay, okay.
00:42:29
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Kind of a little fucked up name for a bar. Well, they honor you every hour on the hour until midnight. It's just a real weird thing that you can name it after like a one of your regulars, they the way they died.
00:42:44
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ah Just imagine a Catholic bar called the crucifixion. Ooh. The dead cop bar in Boston where all the Irish cops drink. I would drink at the dead cop bar.
00:42:58
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Yeah, I know you would. He's on the list now. The crucifixion is a Catholic ah bookstore. They only sell fiction books, though. Crucifixion. Well, we know what they say. God hates facts.
00:43:09
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Wow. ah I agree with that one.
00:43:18
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um Worst people. But yeah, Wesley Snipes gets better. Sorry, sorry. Doctor Barr called the malpractice bar. like ah food The diet on my table bar.
00:43:31
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Failed the bar for a lawyers. Failed the bar. Yes.
Creative Bar Name Brainstorming
00:43:35
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It's called pass this bar. there You can't pass this bar. Yeah, that's one. That's one. That's their commercial. This is one bar you won't pass.
00:43:45
Speaker
Just another bar you can't pass. Come on in. There is a lawyer bar of primal fear. What do they call it? The the alibi bar. It's a bar. I think it's just called the alibi. There's just always cameras rolling. Everybody gets fucking time-coded receipts.
00:44:03
Speaker
You sign in. They get a little pullover of yourself, taking hold of the newspaper and a clock. You swear on the Bible that you were there at happy hour or at last call. ah Classy, do you swear to do some shots, nothing but some shots, and then eat a whole hot dog?
00:44:18
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I do, Your Honor.
00:44:21
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but like honors just the name of the bartender. Yeah. yeah You got a guy who announces every time a new bartender comes in, there's a guy who announces them. Like, here's the honorable judge Whitney.
00:44:35
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All rise. Hope that guy fell. Get him out of here. That was a test. I was thinking the bartender would just be a hot chick named like Nancy Honor.
00:44:47
Speaker
I wouldn't mind little having a little bailer. Oh, and when you're 86, they don't call it getting cut off. They call it, ah ah what's it called? Being held in contempt. Yeah. I hold myself in contempt.
00:44:59
Speaker
You guys, I think we should start some bars. Yeah. You think? But I do like that these skydiving people all walk around like the silliest gang members ever.
00:45:12
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like These guys come in and they're all wearing just like this bright green fucking day glow jumpsuits. You don't fuck with us. We're the fucking limes. We're a little acidic, but we spice things up when you need a little zip in a dish.
00:45:27
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it's Remember when we used to have Marbleless Mondays? Oh, yeah. The names of the marble teams. If they were people, these are those teams.
00:45:38
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Yeah. They're all wearing green, so they have to be Irish, though, right? Over there in the corners, the blue raspberries. Careful, the blue raspberries are real tough customers. ah Don't fuck with the pearls. You don't want to fuck with the pearls, dude.
00:45:50
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But Wesley Snipes kicks the shit out of these guys, so we know that he's tough because we haven't really gotten a chance to see him be tough. I mean, not he fucked Gary Busey for a second, but it didn't last too long before they jumped out of the plane. This is the first audience gets to see, like, oh, he could take on, what is this, five guys at once? No problem? Cool. Five large dudes. It's my favorite part of any of these movies where people fuck with Wesley Snipes because they think he's just a regular dude. It never goes well.
00:46:15
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i was He's wearing a backwards Kangol. All right, Pearls, get together and do our signature move. It's time for the pearl necklace. what They just hold hands and try and clothesline everybody. i wish I had some pictures because the clothes, maybe I'll just edit them in later.
00:46:29
Speaker
The clothes Wesley Snipes is wearing throughout this movie are fucking wonderful. He looks like a dude who's on vacation in Miami. but like He's always wearing these very loose fitting, like flowing white shirts. and But it's not Miami. it's ah It's a lesser known beach town.
00:46:44
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Yeah, but he just it's he just looks, I don't know. I was laughing every time he came because it's a different outfit every time he comes on screen. When he rolls up on the scooter, the hat is what kills it.
00:46:55
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The outfit's great. He wears the crap out of it. The hat is just like, it looks like you're going golfing. Oh, and that reminds me, because he gets the scooter because he has to sell his sexy car, which I mentioned in the passenger 57 episode.
00:47:09
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Wesley Snipes always has sexy cars in movies. This blade, white men can't jump. Oh, blade is so sexy. Yeah, he's always a sexy lip. Well, he's into cars, isn't he?
00:47:20
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I would assume so. These have to be his cars. I think what it is is that he will not slide inside of anything that's not sexy. That is true. He's like, women, cars, don't matter.
00:47:32
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long as there's leather inside. If she's got a motor in the back of her Honda, he would. but My Anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hon. But they they find out that Jagger died and that's why everybody's toasting and like, um, because he's toasted. And Yancy freaks out. And Yancy, yeah, she freaks out. I'll take a shot of Jagger for Jagger. Thank you. Thank you. I would, right?
00:47:55
Speaker
And, uh, she's, she's like, yo, you know what? You can, you can pay me and I'll help you with this stuff. $15,000 for me and my plane. Uh, I don't have that kind of money. He's like, eh, she's like, it's the government's money. Who fucking cares?
00:48:08
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I'm kind of doing this a little on my own here.
00:48:13
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What I'm doing is not exactly legal. i got suspended. Sorry, you said Chris Farley doing them earlier. And now I'm not acting like a horse's ass to find my brother's killer.
00:48:25
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So precious, I'll turn this whole goddamn airplane around. Just taste this beer. He had to sell his house and guess where he lives now, Jack? In a van down by the river. It's a dream, by the way.
00:48:40
Speaker
It's called my retirement plan. but like So the big thing here is Gary Busey and his friends are stealing undercover cop information for some kind of vague criminal drug people.
00:48:53
Speaker
He looks like a... um Yeah. He's going to end up being some fucking like politician playing gangster. Well, it's like at first I wrote down here that he was meeting with drug dealers and I was like, oh, they're gonna do some drug stuff because I remember.
00:49:05
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But when they even when they go in ah very shortly, when they go into the police building, there's all those drugs in the lockup. And the one guy's like, too bad we're not in the drug business. You know, they're stealing the drugs. That's all part of their like.
00:49:18
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their fault. That's a cover. Yeah, that's a cover because they're actually stealing the undercover DA list, which, by the way, this movie has a lot to influence a lot of movies after this. This is basically the knock list of Mission Impossible.
00:49:29
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That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, this is just the Mission Impossible, but with Tom Cruise. I mean, with. i yeah Yes, Derek, Tom Cruise is in Mission Impossible. Oh, well done. You got it. Go clap.
00:49:43
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Impossible with Wesley Snipes.
00:49:46
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I'd watch the fuck out of that. We missed out on Wesley Snipes being Batman. I'll so i'll stick to that. He has Batman pose in this fucking movie. He goes through the window. He's on a scaffold. He knows. He's like Batman, yeah.
00:49:59
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He knows. They skydive into i would've watched that the Miami police department, take the drugs, hack the system, do the whatnot. Hack the planet. It's a pretty cool plan. They go up basically and they don't, they're not even just base jumping. They go up on top of this thing and just open their parachutes and let the wind pull them out.
00:50:17
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And then then they land into the truck. Yeah, Mickey Jones is down there with his truck. And his dude in a quarter. I don't know if anybody noticed, but when they're diving into the truck, everybody lands in the back except for one. Gary Busey's stunt person definitely goes right in front of that truck.
00:50:32
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But they just cut to all of them in the back of the truck. Woo, we made it. Oh, one one lands in the corner and just kind of like slams around. His butt hits the edge of that of the bed truck, the truck in the bed. Yeah, and drops them down. Real stunts.
00:50:47
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And that's another one I thought they were going to fake it like a composite have a guy getting close to the truck and they cut with everybody in there. No, you see that man slide into the bed. I think we got movie a movie made by stunt people's wet dream.
00:51:01
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Yeah. Yeah. And then so we have a but she starts recruiting a team to help. They go to the drop zone in Key Largo, Florida. at It's right there on the screen again.
00:51:12
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we was on the screen earlier. Nobody says Drop Zone, but they read they write it on the screen. Knives does at the end. Yancy Butler does. She does. She's like, this is the Drop Zone in D.C. I guess I didn't think about it because they'd already showed it on the screen four times or something at that point.
00:51:29
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And that's where we meet Bobby, who's played by Rex Lynn, who's the guy you guys are talking about. He's in Cop Rock. Rex Lynn. But we just saw him two months ago in Long Kiss Goodnight. He's the...
00:51:41
Speaker
He's the dude that the girl is about to hook up with. as Her and Sam Jackson are scamming people. Oh. So he's the one that's with the fake prostitute at the beginning of that.
00:51:52
Speaker
Oh. He was also in The Postman. So this guy has been on the show a lot. Yeah, yeah. He'll be back. It was recently on Better Call Saul is that
Recruitment of Skydiving Team in 'Drop Zone'
00:52:00
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the guy that Saul Goodman screwed over, the the head of the bank, um...
00:52:05
Speaker
I don't know you remember that guy. I didn't get, i only watched the first couple seasons of that. He got to four. So long between seasons that i by the time the third or fourth came out, I was like, well, now I've got to rewatch the whole thing. So I just was waiting until it was over.
00:52:18
Speaker
Gotcha. Well, it's over, so fucking watch it. But Kevin Wattell from ah Mesa Verde Bank, yes. i That was where I saw him most recently. I was like, I just saw that guy recently-ish. Yeah, we just saw him last night when we watched Cutthroat Island.
00:52:29
Speaker
Fact. There you Yeah, well, they watched Cut Through Island while I drunkenly slept on the couch. And i smoked weed with, or I smoked with Jack. ah Yep, just smoke. ye Just smoke. You can say weed. This is Arizona.
00:52:43
Speaker
Yeah, we're legal here. I got a receipt for it. it I don't like throwing people under buses. that's fine and I think they know I get high. they? He does it on camera all the time. they met me? The people listening?
00:52:57
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Anybody. Sometimes when the video and audio go, or the two tracks of video go out of sync, I use the lighter flashing on his face as my sync up moment. Yeah. You can watch Jack get high on YouTube. Leave a like and subscribe. but Yeah.
00:53:14
Speaker
And then they go off and recruit Swoop. You guys are good at this. They off and recruit Swoop, played by Kyle Secor, who has not been on the show. ah he's The things I saw from him that I recognized is the purge election year, and apparently he's in City Slickers.
00:53:30
Speaker
I don't know how. Veronica Mars, baby. Oh, okay. He would be one of the shithead cowboys that after Jack Palance dies, they kind of take over and are going to grape that one lady.
00:53:42
Speaker
He's a team move version of Adam Baldwin. Oh, yeah. You know what's funny? Like in my brain, i was like, I think it's somebody I know. And then it shows him. I was like, oh, no, that's poor man's Adam Baldwin.
00:53:55
Speaker
See? Although, don't know. This guy is probably cooler than Adam Baldwin. As a person, yeah. Yeah. Because Adam Baldwin in real life is kind of a shit, so um But yeah, he's a crazy homeless man who lives on a roof. Last name is Baldwin.
00:54:09
Speaker
I know it's no no relation. No relation. This is all crazy. So yeah, he's like a crazy homeless dude who lives on a roof and jumps off stuff for fun. He's living in a scaffolding. He can live there if he does the windows.
00:54:20
Speaker
As she's building the team, and he's like, all right, get swoop. And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, what? You're going to get who? That guy's a nutcase. As far as I can tell, he just cares more about skydiving than anything else.
00:54:32
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Yeah, and he won't talk to you unless he's jumped with you. And he'll work for a t-shirt. And he'll for a t-shirt. He's like, all your jumps are paid for. He's like, are they paid for? Yancy? Butler? Really?
00:54:42
Speaker
How about a free t-shirt? Well, what he doesn't say here is that it's going to be a used one from Wesley Snipes. Please and thank you. I'll take that one. I'll i'll take that one you have right there. Thank you.
00:54:53
Speaker
Roll it up here. Sleep on the pillow. He ties it around his face like a mask. ah I love this like fake out though because it's only on Wesley Snipes because like Crossman's very aware of what's going on but he does this like whoopsie daisy I'm falling off the building and then just like bass jumps out of there and Wesley Snipes is like that wasn't funny she's cracking up Green screen of the actor falling and then they cut to an actual dude parachuting off the building again. i thought there was yeah every time it gets me every time. I'm like, they're not really going to do this, are they? They fucking do.
00:55:28
Speaker
Well, especially because they do show a little bit crappy green screen. I get it. It's just it's a sign of the times. I'm not complaining about that, but I'm like, oh they're not doing the stunt. Yes, they did. It just they needed a little segue. And it's a sign of the times combined with.
00:55:40
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Us watching it, like I know Whitney and I and Classy all watched the 4K. I'm not sure what version we started watching. i want to say 1080. It's at least 1080. But it's at least Blu-ray. Yeah, it's at least Blu-ray quality. So, you know, you're going to see that stuff a little more.
00:55:54
Speaker
Yeah. we've We've come to deal with that a long, come to terms with that a long time ago. Oh, yeah. Even today, man, I think that you should use CGI in action movies to amplify real stunt. Again, talking about Tom Cruise when he drove a motorcycle off a cliff, they they put him on a ramp and they CGI'd the ramp to make it look as part of the cliff. But that motherfucker really did that shit. He really jumped off. So that's what I said. Hold my beer, bitch. Exactly.
00:56:18
Speaker
I still maintain that there has to be another Mission Impossible movie because Tom Cruise didn't die making the most recent one. like That's his plan, right? like he's He's like, I will die making one of these movies.
00:56:29
Speaker
Wouldn't it be crazy if he just makes like a quiet drama or a legal drama and he dies doing that somehow? Something falls on him? Papercut infection? Boston Legal, the fucking movie?
00:56:40
Speaker
Staple to the eye? Bro, I pronounce you guilty as fuck. du This motherfucker was hanging off of a plane by just his thighs and he's still alive.
00:56:52
Speaker
Jesus Christ, Tom Cruise. Yeah, but who did it first? ah Tim. Tim robbins Robbins. Yeah, Tim Robbins did it first. Well, Tim Robbins, stuntman, did it first in Howard the Duck.
00:57:04
Speaker
Well, see, this movie influenced Tom Cruise because of the knock list, but it's it's also influenced a lot of other movies.
00:57:16
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00:58:21
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00:58:39
Speaker
um they find out about the clamps and whatnot that we talked about. They're nylon clamps and he sends a sample to... Because this is where we get that scene that he ah Classy was just talking about with um Snipes Batman sitting in the window because Yancey is trying to find out what happened to Jack. Yeah, because she goes into the the investigation warehouse or whatever. Yeah, and he's just up in the corner like fucking Spawn.
00:59:04
Speaker
He would have great Spawn too. Absolutely. but i don't I don't think he could have improved that movie, but I do have the 4K coming, so we'll find out. I mean, it's just the end of the movie that I hate.
00:59:18
Speaker
rest is good. Is it really? i got to like Honestly speaking, even as a guy that likes trashy movies, I've only heard that it's garbage. Really? Okay. I grew up liking it. It's just that there's the CG at the end when he goes to hell. I mean, there's some bad CG throughout, but the main thing is when he goes to hell...
00:59:36
Speaker
It is bad. it's I mean, my secret is I can always get stoned enough to enjoy most things. I mean, like, you know, our our opening video, our opening video starts with the thing where ah Bob Hoskins is falling into the dino world or whatever. And Super Mario Brothers spawn.
00:59:54
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Yeah. this The end of spawn looks worse than that. And that was 1993 and had no money. and had no yeah I can also get drunk enough to enjoy a lot of things.
01:00:05
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Okay. Then I think you'll be fine with it. Okay. It's got us kind of a don j way but yeah Michael Jai White. Michael Jai White's fantastic. Martin Sheen is there. Johnny Legs is. Johnny Legs is the violator.
01:00:19
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It's one of those things like Arrow announced the 4K and I was like, that's so unnecessary. I'll take two. Click it, click it.
01:00:29
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Because I hate me. You must. There's a training montage of skydiving. yeah We get to see Wesley Snipes learning how to skydive. it's It's cool because they have him on the little fan thing. It's a skydive montage. I just love they're all laughing at him every time he falls. They're like, he's not even balancing. with You know, of course he gets to the end.
01:00:49
Speaker
And it's like, I've seen these things before, but usually you're inside of a tunnel of some sort.
Humorous Takes on Skydiving Challenges
01:00:56
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So if you go to the edges, you hit the side. No, it's just like padding. This is like an inflatable pool.
01:01:01
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you'll see You'll see the one that you're talking about. You're going to see in Cutaway. And I want you to not look it up on IMDb because there's a really fun cameo in that movie. Okay.
01:01:12
Speaker
Great. But like i just only reason I thought about it is because once he starts doing well, he's really, really high up off the ground. And I'm like, you get too far to the edge and you tumble a little and there you go. They got a guy with a pillow on the side. It's pretty scientific. and we have to We have to toast again. Another guy burned in. What was he doing? he was on the spinny thing. like the side of sorry He was on the bull riding of skydiving. Mid-sentence yawn. You must really be tired. They got the same safety instructor they do from Blended. Yeah, exactly.
01:01:44
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um I do love, though, they finally jump at the end. And Wesley Snipes beefs it a little bit, but he he did the jump. He landed everything. The swoop still won't talk to him. And then it's a Bobby Rex Lynn that's like, that's because what you did doesn't count as a skydive.
01:01:58
Speaker
He's weird like that. you didn't really jump. But i just like he's like, i think it was a sweet jump. because his Wesley gets to play this really well because the the character's not so one note. He is so stoked. He's like, woo, yeah, hell yeah. like He is so excited to jump.
01:02:13
Speaker
Let's do it again. I thought the jump was pretty sweet, if I don't mind saying so myself. This whole time, this whole movie, he's saying like, what really skill is there? You jump. It's a jump. You pull the thing. That's it. And I agree. I don't know, guys.
01:02:26
Speaker
because yeah Well, to her point, though, the the only real skill gap that I can see that you would need is going for this 747 way high up because she's like, if you hold your body out like this, it'll rip you apart.
01:02:37
Speaker
So I guess the skill that you would need is for the heist is to know how to streamline and knock it torn apart by drag. Yeah. yeah Yeah. And like to do the stuff they're doing specifically, like to get to the locations they're getting to. And I mean, you see them land ah the guy Trasky or whatever his name is, lands with ah Michael Jeter on his like strapped to him and he lands right at the edge of that dock when he comes in earlier.
01:03:05
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i mean, it's you know, that's where the skill is. And then, like she says, these people are jumping out of the plane and their arms are flying out. And she's like, this 80 knots. They're going 500. Yeah, but you're saying you'll get torn apart unless you have the skill. And I'm like, tell me what it is. what are they doing? Like just kind of holding themselves in. i don't fucking know.
01:03:22
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It doesn't do a great job of kind of explaining. No, yeah, they don't do that. I'm sure Cutaway gets more into that. Wesley Snipes just it says a Mary Sue. He's just all a good at this.
01:03:34
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got a training montage. It's fine. I do like in the little fucking training wind tunnel thing. You see that meat he's packing, dude, because those pants aren't leaving a lot to the imagination and they get fucking like vacuum sealed.
01:03:47
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It was like vacuum sealing sausage all of a sudden. Yeah. Right after the dude is like, he's not even balancing and they show him get on and that's when you get that low angle shot. can see why he's not balancing. Of course he's not balancing. There's an extra seven pounds on that left side. explain can you get that really, really large eggplant out of, I don't know why you have an eggplant. Oh, that's you.
01:04:06
Speaker
Oh, good for you. My God. are you cheering a bazooka into the wind tunnel? like passenger 57, the girl that pats him down is like just goes right for it, right? she' So you can't sneak a 40 into the wind tunnel. She starts patting at his upper thigh, gets all the way down to his knee, gets a little past his knee. and She's like, excuse me Is this tucked into your shoe?
01:04:28
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no. He's got an ankle holster, but not for a gun, baby. His dick is so big that he put a shoe on his penis and then taped his left and his right foot together.
01:04:40
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And he split the pants like so. it's ah It's confusingly large to quote Martin Scorsese. Confusingly large. But so they go to D.C.
01:04:52
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um So the whole point of this big thing is there's a big exhibition in D.C. where they do some kind of jump. And it's the only time of year where people can jump over D.C. because it's no fly zone, obviously.
01:05:02
Speaker
And Wesley Snipes goes, oh, well, there's your plot. Yeah. And it's like it's they're not even trying to hide that they're the bad guys like they're picking on these dudes right out of the gate. ah Torski. That was the name.
01:05:15
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He like grabs ah the other kids. Selkirk. He grabs his chute and like pulls it when they're getting on the plane. So he gets pulled off and they're just being general douchebags. Yeah, they're your high school bullies.
01:05:27
Speaker
I can't imagine parachutes work that way when you pull it while you're standing. Wouldn't it just like fall? Because if you're depends on how windy it is. Yeah, I guess. But it really like yanks him want to say it is compressed in there. So there is like a you'll kind of like an airbag in your car. Okay. All right. All right.
01:05:46
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maybe I'm staying out of this because i just don't know enough. Oh, I know everything and 100% true facts on this movie.
Bar Fight Scene and Character Dynamics
01:05:54
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80 for educational. ah um Then Torski goes, they're at the bar again. Torski goes and jumps Swoop in the bathroom.
01:06:02
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We see another person that's a welcome back. Because Swoop had done the Yeah, the gift wrap. Yeah. But this other guy who's credited as this guy's credited as Deputy Dog.
01:06:15
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They never say his name, but it's Robert. Robert Lozardo. He's the dude with all the tattoos up his neck. Usually you see him shaved bald. Yeah, he was in Waterworld. I think he was one of Dennis Hopper's goons.
01:06:26
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OK, he's in King of New York and a bunch of other stuff. You know, he plays a gang guy. Yeah, he's ah he's a skinny Hispanic dude with a bunch of tattoos. And it's the 90s. Who's part ninja.
01:06:39
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But Snipes goes in there. Kicks the shit out of all these guys. Mickey Jones, Torski and Lissardo doesn't have too much trouble. No, no. and He's not using martial arts, really.
01:06:52
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Dr. Dog or whatever got a couple of punches and everybody else got fucking flattened. Yeah, they did. And that guy just being introduced, he might have been in the background before, but he becomes pretty major throughout the rest of he's the replacement for Jaeger. Oh, OK. That makes no, no. He's been around.
01:07:09
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because He's been around. Gary Ducey says now we have a team of four. Yeah, we're four strong. He comes in after. He was the one that was setting up the comic books and all the fucking eating food on that heist.
01:07:20
Speaker
Oh, is that him? Oh, yeah. He's been around. He just hasn't done shit to me. He's like they hid in the basement or whatever. I said, because when he was doing that, I was like, what the fuck is this guy doing? It's like, oh, oh, that's actually kind of genius.
01:07:34
Speaker
these actually These are really smart, bad guys. yeah Yeah. Well, how did they get in? They camped out right here. Yeah. It's all fucking Moncrief. Snipes basically figures out, like, since they can they're jumping into DC and they're supposed land the Washington Monument. He's like, you could land anywhere.
01:07:49
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I'd land on Abe's lap. I got a laugh out that. I'll tell you where I'm landing.
01:07:56
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And Lissardo does go in deputy dog and like they cut the cord on Crossman's parachute. Yep. Because they were like, if we take out their leader, then they won't jump during the big jump.
01:08:09
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But she gives Corinemic her parachute and says, take my lucky parachute. Yeah. For this jump. It's my lucky shoot. It's it's been 12 jumps. This is number 13. Should be fine.
01:08:21
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They do the ah they do the jump and they're doing the formation thing where they're doing like a red, white and blue. the 4th of July thing. It's pretty cool. I'm always impressed by, I mean, like, it's just kind like you watch it on a TV and it's like, okay, it's some people and they're in a circle. But like, and you really think about it, you're like, God damn, man, you got like fucking 15, 20 people all holding each other and spinning in circles. And like, it's, it's pretty crazy. And then that dude in the middle just kind of spinning out and like, oh yeah. Like it's, it's pretty fucking cool. I do like how the, uh, the, uh, Busey stunt guy does the whole, like,
01:08:56
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torpedoed down almost like the seedling that just kind of goes. Oh, yeah, he he does like the you're going to water slide. Yeah, you put your arms and legs together and he just shoots straight down.
01:09:06
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Yeah. And we can't forget that with all this cool shit happening, there's also another person with a camera out falling through the sky filming. yeah yeah before Before the era of GoPros, mind you. So what the hell? How did they do that?
01:09:19
Speaker
but You actually see one of them. You do see one of them when they're in formation. that's right. They have three guys filming and you see the giant ass camera. Which is fine because it's like you won't think like, oh, that's someone from the movie. that's like They're probably filming this because it's a big fucking thing. yeah so You see their film jumps. Yeah, people can buy their like
Gary Busey's Unique Style in 'Drop Zone'
01:09:39
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souvenir tapes. They're watching it at the burn-in bar later on.
01:09:42
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yeah because they are Earlier they were watching because they were watching when the dude got gift-wrapped. That's right. It's the equivalent of fucking golfers watching themselves after. Look at my swing right there. Oh, my God. I got a little hitch in my elbow. I got to get that flattened out.
01:09:57
Speaker
It's exactly what they're doing. But yeah, the suit or the the shoot does jam up and swoop dives in to save him. He ends up pulling out his emergency shoot manually like he can't get it out. So he grabs it and pulls his shoot to make him launch up and then pulls out that dude's still doesn't open all the way, but he lands in water. And I guess maybe he broke the speed a little bit. Dummy. He was jacking off. He shot the scene down. We know. Yeah.
01:10:22
Speaker
it's yeah The dummy work here when this dude hits the water Goes down is great There's another really good one later well no even by when When he catches Sully It's a dummy that's like Grabbed onto him With Because there's there's a couple more really good dummies coming up. There's one for Yancey Butler, and then there's an amazing one for Gary Busey. Amazing. The best part of the movie. The end of this movie is just the most fire fucking piece of cinema that's ever existed.
Hans Zimmer's Score and Emotional Impact
01:10:50
Speaker
But speaking of fire, Gary Busey's wardrobe for a lot of this movie. When he is skydiving and he's wearing the fucking zebra-striped Buttafuoco pants and just a tank top, that's a cool skydiver on the fucking planet, dude.
01:11:05
Speaker
Yeah. Get out of here. Yeah. get out of here i those grand handss I was ready how you're gonna hear face and speaking of fire. ah The Hans Zimmer score fucks in this movie.
01:11:19
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This score, half orchestral, half electric guitar. Whips ass. The score fucks. The soundtrack does not. The soundtrack is mostly hollow.
01:11:29
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It's a lot, like outside of NXS, it's a lot of just 90s who could fucking care. i didn't even get. Generic rock. I have no recollection of any music other than the score. Yeah. Yeah, the score fucks though.
01:11:41
Speaker
I definitely the score made the Bernie nose and the wet eyes happened during the beginning of the plane crash. I read and i yeah I'm taking their word on it because I haven't seen Pirates of the Caribbean since 2004 or
Action Sequences and Comedy in 'Drop Zone'
01:11:52
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whenever it came out. But like that's the same. It's note for note. The same score he used in the first Pirates of the Caribbean for one of the pieces of music. Not all of it, but.
01:12:01
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Not just that. Not one of them. for For the first Gladiator as well, it sounds exactly the same. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. I watched the first one before the sequel came out, and I was like, wait a second. So that means Drop Zone influenced both those movies as well.
01:12:16
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and But his goes dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. And his goes dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
01:12:24
Speaker
It's not the same. but like So there the the bad guys take off. She's waiting on their plane. She's got a gun because she knows it was Torski because he gave her a look. Yep. And that look was like, snipes if he dies, he dies.
01:12:36
Speaker
yeah Snipes commandeers her plane because they're all waiting for her. And she he's like, we're not waiting for anymore. We got to go. And like the one swoop is just like, cool. Yeah, let's fucking go. Let's jump. Yeah. She'll be here when we get back.
01:12:48
Speaker
yeah He's like, i'm a I am a U.S. Marshal. And I was like, I'm glad they did not do the, well, you fucking lied to us, bro. We don't love you. Like they just said, fuck it. Let's do this. Let's get this going. Yeah.
01:13:01
Speaker
I mean, Swoop's just going to take any chance to be up in a plane and jump out yeah no matter what. Hey, do you want to get in a plane? Go to, yup. yeah What do you mean? We're not jumping out. Is there a door or do I have to bring explosives?
01:13:15
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I'm called to be jumping out of this plane. um That is another stupid thing. Sorry that Wesley Snipes says, oh, I want to jump. I need to jump because I'm not going to find anything down here. i need to go up there.
01:13:27
Speaker
You're not going to be interrogating anybody in the sky, dipshit. Like that's a really bad script reason for him to get on the plane. That line was really dumb. I did not like that at all. What do you mean you have to jump? He's like, well, i'm not going to find anything down here. But yes, you are. You're to everything down here.
01:13:42
Speaker
They might be up there, but all the clues are right here. Clues don't stay in the It turns out there's no evidence in the sky. They'll be down here eventually. Just wait. unless that's where they That's how this works. We're talking about Jew lasers?
01:13:54
Speaker
But they're not going to talk to him. That's evidence. They're not going to talk to him if he doesn't participate. that That would be a better line. It's like, I need to be like you as close as possible. Teach me to be like be a part of the team.
01:14:07
Speaker
Exactly. I need to get into their head or you have everybody act like Swoop where no one talks to them. One of those two. like I need to see what these skydivers guys see. Exactly. all the All these people jump out dressed like glow sticks and Gary Busey and his team stay behind.
01:14:22
Speaker
i like how they do it. They're like, well, yeah, let's go. Everybody's off the fucking strip. Yeah. But i like to take off this fucking popsicle outfit. They still do the fucking stunt. Like, wouldn't somebody be like, where are the five guys in the red that we need? Yeah, because they're part of the circle is now missing. Yeah. We've been rehearsing with five more guys.
01:14:43
Speaker
yeah There's only 30 stars in our flying American flag here. We look ridiculous. Because it's missing. They basically were facing each other. It's missing. there They're making parentheses around yeah the middle sort the circle now of a circle. It's America.
01:14:58
Speaker
it' oh but. yeah ah but before Gary Busey and his team does the jump Yancy Butler comes out of the close the plane closet I guess with gun yeah she comes out with a gun but she's she's realizes that she's out outmanned here yeah so she they cause they ah the dude Deputy Dog tries to throw her out the fucking door and so she jumps and they're like what a fucking dumbass before she's hanging off the side yeah
01:15:29
Speaker
He's like, yeah, but she ain't got no wings. It got me again. It got me again. The fake, you know, Yancy Butler hanging off, fake green screen, whatever. It's like, you're not going to have a double hanging off the bottom of this plane and then dropping. Absolutely. They are. boemplo Yeah.
01:15:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I love it because then like ah Snipes and the other guys show up and Snipes jumps out. She jumps out and he does the only trick to her when he did earlier. yeah It's really funny, though, because this is where when he grabs her. Oh, and Swoop also follows. And the guy's like, what are you doing? He's like I'm not going to miss this. fuck It's like, but when they land, Wesley Snipes lands.
01:16:06
Speaker
Wesley Snipes lands. right on top of Yancy Butler. Yep. But it's very clearly another dummy. Like he buckled knee hits the thing and like falls. Like, yeah, the knees bend backwards. So she's not going to be walking the rest of this movie. It's going to be the first time that Wesley Snipes has made a woman walk funny because of that. Yes.
01:16:26
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He's used to these allegations of you made me walk funny. Yes. But that man has bent a woman's knees in weird ways. I'll tell you that right now. He's definitely bent a bitch in half. have volunteers tribute.
01:16:39
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Yeah, I might too. Is this right or is it three? Three. I don't know. Volunteers tribute. This is Boy Scouts. Yeah. It depends what kind of tribute you want to be, dude.
01:16:52
Speaker
I'll go with two fingers. i don't i will We'll work our way Wesley Snipes knows to start with a couple of fingers and work his way up. He's not going in. He's easing you into it. Don't See, this is what I was talking about when we do kids' movies. We just talk about dick all the time. The kids' movies don't bring it out to us. We're just aware that we're doing it during a kids' movie.
01:17:11
Speaker
Wesley Snipes' movie, bring on the dick talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Yancy Butler puppet reminded me of when a stunt double jumped out of a plane in Congo with a gorilla stuffy. You remember that?
01:17:24
Speaker
It's like a stuffed animal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was. That was the most hilarious thing I've seen. A real skydive with a gorilla. If you want to be back for if you want to be back for Congo, we need to put that in the docket for no good reason.
01:17:36
Speaker
I've got that same 4K that Derek is holding his hand right now. So, yeah, I'll do it. Sounds like a date made in heckin. Leave us in the 4K alone. But like so they break into the building.
01:17:47
Speaker
We get another welcome back. Did you recognize her, Jack? The security guard that's always eating sandwiches? No. The Abyss. She's from The Abyss and Batman and Robin. Yeah. OK. Kimberly Scott. Yeah. Don't recognize her without a cowboy hat on.
01:18:00
Speaker
Well, it's funny. I mean, they they must have either dyed her hair or her hair changed a lot in three years because Batman and Robin is three years after this. And she's like got gray all down the outside of it, too. So but I mean, you know, maybe they added the gray to this.
01:18:16
Speaker
To make her a scientist. Yeah. Make her more sciencey. I do like her in this honor. Exactly. Temples up a little bit. I did like her in this though. Cause they're like the, there's a power fluctuation that Gary Busey and his guys are trying to hide all this stuff.
01:18:30
Speaker
And they're like, Oh, she's down there cooking again. And they cut to her and she's like, Nope, not cooking. And she's just making a sandwich. Oh, no, that's the second scene. She's like, but I am starving. you guys want to order a pizza? And then like when the next scene, she's making a sandwich.
01:18:44
Speaker
Wait, we're we're not going to move off this sandwich. She has piece of bread with like a piece of bologna and then four giant pickle spears. Not slices, but like like a whole pickle sliced long ways in fours She's so high, dude.
01:19:01
Speaker
And mustard. Just mustard. I wouldn't eat this. I like how she closes the fridge. I've done this. She's like, I'll be back for you later. Well, then when she goes up, like she they tell her to go up and search or see what's going on with the scaffolding because the butler jumps on it and starts using it.
01:19:17
Speaker
And she's like, maybe there's some food up there as she walks out with the sandwich. she's lady you get it She's hungry. You were going to get mustard on your security guard uniform, you unprofessional asshole.
01:19:30
Speaker
Well, that's okay. She's going to get some ketchup on it friends i It's getting too familiar. I got to go. Derek, there's a gorilla behind you.
01:19:45
Speaker
and Okay, it's just a puppet from Congo.
01:19:50
Speaker
It's in front of me, guys. I've set it on my table.
01:19:55
Speaker
They go in. Leidy's trying to hack into the thing. um Deputy dog busts them and finds them and he ends up shooting cop rock guy. Yeah. yeah And then we have Wesley Snipes fighting this Losardo dude. And this is the first of two people who get their necks broken in a tussle.
01:20:13
Speaker
Yeah. In about five minutes because they're fighting and they're rolling down the stairs because there's a parachute and all this stuff. Yeah. They just added in this fucking celery snap. Like, there goes that guy. And they're both laying lifeless.
01:20:25
Speaker
So I did stay off IMDb, but I did have to look up the rating of this, which is R. Which made me wonder because there's a couple moments at one point early heist. Busey has a knife to somebody's throat and he starts it and then it cuts away and it cuts back to him just dropping a body. And I'm like, are they just not going for that kind of movie?
01:20:45
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. I mean, the R also, I mean, Snipes definitely says motherfucker. Sure. a bunch, yeah. now So if you've got that R, though, you're already you're already limiting your audience, as it were. they They spent their money on skydiving stunts. They didn't have money for corn syrup.
01:20:59
Speaker
I was just about to say, it could it could have been saying money on effects, literally, because then they have blood spray. You got to clean it up and do another take. It takes time. This is 94, dude. Savini's still working for blow.
01:21:12
Speaker
Well, you can also just go full, like, 80s Jalo and just use red paint. Yeah. It's not that expensive. A little ketchup on the back of that knife. That's the thing too. There's no, there's a long period without a body count. Like after the first, uh, skydive heist and then here, like there's a long time without people getting killed. It doesn't matter. I guess we're just not making that. We're just not making that kind of movie. It ain't that good.
01:21:36
Speaker
But, uh, I love when Wesley Snipes gets up and he's like watching the dude, like waiting for him to pop up like Jason Voorhees. And he like pulls back the thing and looks at his face and he goes, Oh, good. Yeah. He says, thank God. says, oh, thank God. Yeah, thank God he's dead. God, you died.
Plot Twists and Character Dynamics
01:21:51
Speaker
Because he's the only one that could actually go kind of like hit for hit a little bit.
01:21:55
Speaker
Everybody else, Wesley Snipes just walked over. This guy was like, I can at least get some fucking licks um But then ah Gary Busey and Torski find Joanne going up to investigate the scaffolding thing.
01:22:07
Speaker
And they're like, you know, call them and tell them everything's OK and you're all good and you'll be fine. And she's like, OK, cool. Yep, everything's good up here. No pizzas or anything. And then they just fucking shoot her. And I'm like, come on, come on.
01:22:20
Speaker
You didn't think this was happening. Right. come i Come on. yeah You just busted two dudes breaking into the DEA is like secured files. And you're like, no, no, it'll be fine. Also, real lax security for DEA. Well, think that's the I think that's the implication of this is like it's very high security because they've got all these computers that monitor all this stuff and do whatever.
01:22:41
Speaker
But nobody ever suspects the skydiving criminals. And guess who saw this movie? Tom Cruise. And he was like, oh, come and come in through the ceiling. Yeah. Don't leave your knife behind, though. It'll come back in the last movie. Yeah. Pioneer fucking movie.
01:22:59
Speaker
and Jack, we're going to bring you we're going to have a mission impossible marathon for you. Wait, Jack, have you never seen them?
01:23:10
Speaker
I've seen the first two. The first one I liked. The second one told me I don't need to watch anymore. Oh, no, you're okay. Yeah, it's my favorite franchise. So I'm going to fucking tell you, Jack. First of all, the second one I'm about get spit-roasted by you and Derek.
01:23:25
Speaker
It holds up better than you would expect recently. But then every movie after that is like, I think like the fifth or sixth one of Fallout is the best one of the series. Literally like five stars.
01:23:36
Speaker
They get like progressively better until the very last one. I think the last one is right above number two. i liked that I liked Dead Reckoning. i didn't I didn't like Final Reckoning so much. It was okay.
01:23:47
Speaker
Let me tell you why this they got better. This is my thesis. The Tom Cruise, his whole career is like an I've still got it, has to prove himself act. actor so first he was like i want to be an action star was mission impossible i want to be a dramatic actor he was in magnolia then he was like you know what i need to show people i still got it and can still jump off of buildings helicopters etc so
Tom Cruise Career Predictions
01:24:08
Speaker
the stunts got yeah the stunts got crazier around like mission impossible 4 because this whole thing was like i'm not that old i'm old i can still show you what a fucking real action star is going to be bitch
01:24:19
Speaker
Okay. they get a away So worst case scenario, you can get at least get enjoyment out of all the action set pieces because there's not a turd amongst them after two. There's good news and bad news. Good news is I am going to watch them. The bad news is it can't be until May because it's Mation Impossible.
01:24:34
Speaker
And that's when I will watch them. But and for me to do so, and i I don't have the answer for it yet, but I'm going to pick a movie for each of you that you have to watch that I pick. Okay. but Okay. don't Easy. It's not a punishment movie.
01:24:47
Speaker
It's just I have to find one that you haven't seen that I think you should. Well, you don't have worry about buying them or renting them on on digital because I have the Blu-rays of all of them and the 4K of the the last one. I figured you did.
01:24:59
Speaker
this if If you can could afford me a tangent since we're talking about Tom Cruise, here's my prediction for his next phase of his career. Tangent away. Being an I still got it kind of guy, he's going to move away from action and go more into dramatic acting to try to win that Oscar that he never got from the 90s.
01:25:16
Speaker
That's my prediction. He's going to try and Daniel Day-Lewis it? I think so. I think that's what it's going to be. That's that's my guess. Daniel Day-Lew. Now I'm just imagining him and there will be blood.
01:25:27
Speaker
He's going to remake. yeah I drink your milkshake. I drink your milkshake. He's worked with Paul Thomas Anderson. He's going to say to remake Rain Man, but he's going to be the Dustin Hoffman character.
01:25:44
Speaker
ah let's do this again the right way he wouldn't be good in it but i think he would try like i think he would really think he could how's that and speaking of dropping things wesley snipes drops deputy dog's dead body through this fucking elevator shaft i love it Which is a great way to get the attention of the bad guys. I love that his name is Deputy Dog because you are saying some absurd things.
01:26:07
Speaker
And then at the same time, Yancy Butler starts fighting Kara in the other room because you you know the girls have to fight. This is really them fighting. I was trying was looking for the stunt double. Nope, it's them fighting.
Female Fight Scene and Humor
01:26:20
Speaker
Oh, poster right in the tent. yeah did like at one point she has like that like but don't know coat hanger car coat uh hat rack like swings it at her it looks like it just hits her right in the tit it does before twitter and the internet it's just like nobody cared back then because there's no reason yancey butler would know how to fight but who gives a shit she knows how to fight and it badass but she looks great she's a fucking she's a female skydiver in a male kind of driven culture yeah she's had to fight off some drunk assholes Absolutely. I love her.
01:26:51
Speaker
I mean, same with the other girl, because they don't imply that she was DEA or anything. She's also just a badass skydiver. Yeah. I just always, you know, in my in my brain, I can make up a reason. Like for Kara, she trained under Gary Busey once he got out of the DEA and was like, hey, you're a skydiver? Let me teach you how to shoot.
01:27:07
Speaker
And she's actually not even great. She's not great with shooting. She has the fucking Uzi and she misses and then fucking jams. She's uh, you know, like she's not great with it. So it's it's new. That's okay. I taught her how to buy it.
01:27:20
Speaker
If you ever run out of bullets, you can take your teeth and put them into the gun, load them and shoot them. First I teach you how to fight, then I teach you how to bite Most people only have 32 teeth, I have 47 Kara, two, two bites 47 Not one of them are mine Well, if Yancey Butler takes this girl out by smashing her head into a Xerox machine and then like pounding the top down into Jack's point about not having a bunch of blood, they have the series of Xeroxes coming
Action-Packed Climax and Conclusion
01:27:53
Speaker
out. I would have really appreciated it if each progressive one had a bigger puddle. Right? Yeah. Awesome.
01:28:00
Speaker
Because it's like five Xeroxes and nothing changes. It's like, no, we need to see something. Is she knocked out or is she dead? Oh, she's dead. Okay. I think she's dead. Yeah. Crack your skull with that fucking thing?
01:28:12
Speaker
cause yeah Because Buse is just like, Kara, nope, bye.
01:28:18
Speaker
but He's a little torn up. He's like, ah, I used to like watching her have sex with the other fella. And Torski sees Swoop on the roof trying to yell down to Yancey Butler, shoots at him. And this is you see a little bit of a stumble on Swoop's part. But the stuntman goes for it or the actor, I guess, because he's still the actors here because he goes to wrap this rope around Torski's neck and he kind of misses the first time. Yeah. And Torski just kind of stands there like, nope get it you'll get it this time.
01:28:45
Speaker
Come on, big fella. You can get me Come on. You get me. it's fucking cool because they wrap that around his neck, pull his parachute, and then it's another neck snap. This dude goes up and you see him like, well, fuck, this isn't going to end up. but So that's another movie that this movie influenced. Add Air Force One to the list.
01:29:05
Speaker
Oh, We're up to like eight or something like that. Everybody just watches this movie to prepare for their next movie. yeah Next Sky Timber is going to be lit. I'm thinking Iron Eagle as well.
01:29:17
Speaker
Ooh, yeah. We should agree we can we can invite our friend Dustin from B action because they talked they talked about Iron Eagle for a month of action and he absolutely hated every moment of it. And both Charlie and Mickey were like, what the fuck is your problems? Yeah, I feel like I might be on their side, not his.
01:29:39
Speaker
Wait, is this for a month of action or is that over already? No, that's over. This is a month. This would have been great for month of action. Right? Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, we talk about action movies all the time. That's why when that came up, I was like, well, I mean, we had one schedule that wasn't action related, so I just changed it. Yeah. I was like, okay.
01:29:58
Speaker
Like, easy. We do. Because actions action and bad go hand in hand with movies a lot of the times. If you're lucky, you spent all your money on stunts and none of it on acting scripts or directing. I'm OK with Sounds good to me. Yeah. um But there's a standoff.
01:30:19
Speaker
ah Wesley Snipes is holding ah Michael Jeter. but Gary Busey has Yancy Butler. Security guards show up. They're like, everybody's got a gun. We'll just shoot the black guy. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's got to be his fault.
01:30:33
Speaker
Jeter is super, ju sorry, Jeter super Weasley because he's like putting the DEA agent and he's like, yeah yeah jacket. And he's like, dude, I'll sell everybody out. If you take me in right now, I will send Gary Busey's like, whoa, whoa, dude, what are you doing? oh, just stalling him so you can get here, buddy.
01:30:47
Speaker
I didn't even think about that. That's why they shot him because because Jeter had the jacket. It wasn't all the way. Yeah. Yeah. He had the DEA jacket. I just assumed it was because they were white cops and it's a bit of both. It's a bit of both. Also, now that you mentioned that, I had in my notes that nobody is like overtly racist toward Wesley Snatch in this movie, which is surprising. Usually he's like passenger 57. Yeah, there's always a racist and that motherfucker gets it in that movie.
01:31:11
Speaker
Yeah, well, this movie's missing a racist just getting it. That would just bump up a star. That's true. well Especially considering this movie mostly takes place in Florida. Yeah. I'm really surprised there was no dicey.
01:31:23
Speaker
You saw those scumbag skydivers. You know they're saying some shit. You know they're like. So when we do this stunt over here, I was actually thinking if we make the stars and bars, like if we had a couple people like doing like a white X with maybe some blue in there and red on the background, that'd be kind cool because, you know what I'm saying, like it's about heritage, not hatred. I'm not going to black out do it, though.
01:31:46
Speaker
Never mind that it's not the flag they had during the Civil War or anything. I don't know if you, this fella, should be allowed to talk right now we're talking about the South, okay? Because his heritage is not hatred and he's not making any points.
01:31:59
Speaker
He was spoken to. Yeah, exactly. Why don't you quiet down there, sir? Where were you during the Civil War? Did you get drafted or did you dodge it? because I rest my case on that one. Got him.
01:32:11
Speaker
yeah Got him. I was a little over 100 years from being born. Again, I don't think this guy should be allowed to talk because he is not saying anything that is not fake bugle news. All right? That's a fake bugle. They said surrender, but actually it said attack. It's fake bugle.
01:32:28
Speaker
But so they have they have a face-off, much like face-off, where they're holding their guns right in each other's faces. Wait a minute. there's a boat?
01:32:36
Speaker
And I love that Snipes just just like click. ah yeah yeah Both guns turn out they're empty. So then they have to tussle. and What I would have liked a little bit more, just a little bit more, because you know Wesley Snipes gives that face like, I know I'm fucked now.
01:32:53
Speaker
Give that face and then give a little wha-pah and knock the gun out. You know what I mean? yeah yeah Yeah. But I'm being nitpicky. I just want more wha-pah. But that's the thing, though. Actually, I remember I was going to say earlier this. He's not using martial arts, really, in this movie. He's like a brawler. Like he's. Yeah.
01:33:10
Speaker
He dudes a lot of fists. His kicks are not like, you know, expertly, you know, martial arts kicks. He's just bashing the shit out of dudes, which is cool. Yeah. Yeah, because he doesn't he doesn't need to have a backstory of like, oh, he's actually training in jujitsu. No, he just fucking throws bows and does knees.
01:33:27
Speaker
Well, and speaking of bashing dudes, he bashes Gary Busey out this fucking window. yeah And this this this dummy plummets down and and Mickey Jones had been trying to get away from the police this thing falls down and just goes right through the fucking windshield of this truck and it's like this is how we get the last two guys can you imagine being this guy driving and a fucking Gary Buse his teeth firsting at you hitting right for us it was like a fuck it was like the fucking front of two Buicks taped together coming out of his mouth
01:34:02
Speaker
Nicky Jones should have done a Chris Farley scream. Oh, has come without who it's like, it's like one of the fucking ah floats from the Macy's day parade is coming down on your plane or on your car.
01:34:17
Speaker
Dude, I had, i because I was enjoying this movie already, I think that's clear, but at this point, I am just like laughing out loud, riotous by myself, having the best fun of this already fun movie was right here.
01:34:31
Speaker
There's at least three cameras set up here because they just cut between all these angles of Gary Busey dummy just flying through this windshield. There's like outside, there's inside the cab, there's on the other side of the cab.
01:34:43
Speaker
Then he keeps driving for a little bit. So you have this these legs sticking out of the window while he's crashing into shit. but Best day of the year for me.
01:34:55
Speaker
So have the wrap up. You know, Snipes is getting taken to the ambulance. ah Michael Jeter's getting away, dressed as the DEA. He's even talking to these security guys like. Oh yeah, you did a great job. her They're gonna give you a promotion if you ah just give me some lotion. Sorry, we rhyme with the DEA. There's the part where the medic is trying to... Sorry.
01:35:15
Speaker
The medic is trying to strap in Snipes and he like... fuck it and just puts a blanket over it. It's the wrong leg. try to distract The leg with the dick on it.
01:35:29
Speaker
Like that hurts. Use That's another my wrong leg and then what is my third leg motherfucker. One more from ah Snoops. He sees that swoop. Sorry. Swoop comes in and like fucking maneuvers his jump. He just takes his parachute.
01:35:47
Speaker
and takes out Leedy. Leedy. Leedy. Did you catch the wig on that stunt double? The swoop wig? Like a gray, like an afro that they dyed grayish?
01:36:00
Speaker
It's like those Guy Fieri style, like fucking golf visors that had the hair connected. Yes. That's what it was, dude. And it's great because he just sits up and he's like, fucking awesome, man. yeah the best This is such a good, jovial laugh from Wesley Snipes. I mean, he's like, ah!
01:36:16
Speaker
I just enjoy in this. Yes. Yes. Fuck that little dude. Swoop saying fucking awesome man was hit people so hard that when you look at the IMDb section of quotes from the movie, there's one completely out of context that just says fucking awesome, man.
01:36:32
Speaker
yeah Like they always try to put like after this happened or something someone else says or whatever. It just says fucking awesome, man. Fucking awesome, man. then he's finally, he's like, Pete, Peter, tell these guys my leg is broken. oh yeah, because he won't talk to those the ambulance guys because they haven't dove with him. Yeah. He's anything for you, brother.
01:36:55
Speaker
Jack, what you mentioned, Wesley Snipes just cackling. Like, imagine Steven Seagal doing that and just be like,
01:37:05
Speaker
oh, I'm quite amused right now. Hey, somebody get that guy. See, but that's the thing. Fucking Seagal would have fucked this movie up so bad because they're like, hey, they're going to strap you to an ambulance. ah What do you call Gurney?
01:37:17
Speaker
They're going strap you to that. And he's like, actually, no, they're going to try and they're going to fail. I'm going to beat them up. And then I'm going to take one of their fucking fingers, chomp it off like Gary Busey and throw it like a throwing knife into the back of Leaky's head.
01:37:31
Speaker
And then I'm going to go get that girl Yancey. I know she's not here, but I'm going to kiss her hard. like He would have fucked up as this so much of this movie because Wesley Snacks is an actor that can play.
01:37:42
Speaker
yeah But that always needs to be on top.
Comparisons to Other Action Movies
01:37:45
Speaker
But Chris Farley would be like, guys, you need a bigger strap on this gurney. Get a bigger strap. Fat guy in a little gurney.
01:37:57
Speaker
100% better movie, Chris Farley over Stephen Spell. No question. Yes, yes. And that's true for, I think, every movie that I can think of right now because I'm i'm playing Under Siege in my head.
01:38:09
Speaker
ask captain! Check on my pies! Check on my pies! He would be the cook. He would be the cook. He'd make, like, nothing but fried chicken, like, fucking just... Just fucking Dom Della wheezing.
01:38:27
Speaker
So this is the point where we decided if we recommend this movie and I don't know if anybody's going to keep listening because I think they know, but we'll start with our guest, the classy alcoholic. Just make them quick, right? 100%. Wait, should we rate it out of five parachutes? How many would you open me, Fulk? I'm giving this 4.5 parachutes.
01:38:45
Speaker
mean fantastic lot of fun Wesley Snipes uh the best action star of the 90s I said it in my passenger 57 episode I'll stick to that you know with my whole chest uh man this movie is fun it's not a full five because you know it's got to those weird script things where they're trying to figure out how to explain uh why Wesley Snipes is in the air ah but it's still you know fantastic lot of fun and uh strong recommend on this one I'm going to follow on his ah straps and just do four pairs of shoes. For the same reasons. Again, Jack pointed out there's no soundtrack.
01:39:26
Speaker
Like it's super. I don't remember any fucking song. I didn't remember that. ah NXS was in it. It's the credits. um Okay. The credits scene, which by the way, if nobody watched the credits, kind of a cool like yeah James Bond-y skydiving thing. Very fun. It was like a skydiving karate kid.
01:39:46
Speaker
Yeah. that yeah it was It's called Aerial Ballet. i love it. And it was pretty beautiful. It's pronounced Aerial Ballet yeah I like If you've not seen it, definitely watch it. I had a lot of fun.
01:40:00
Speaker
And I just recently watched it with these guys and then I watched it again this morning and I still had fun with it. Yeah, I got it so close to being a five.
01:40:11
Speaker
It's so close. So I'm going to give 4.25. Four in a reserve shoot. The score, great. The soundtrack, no. But something I didn't realize until we started that we didn't talk about it, there's no love interest.
01:40:24
Speaker
I love that. I love that. Because it would have been so forced. It would been forced. Like, want to see him bang. Don't get me wrong, classy. I want to see him fuck. But we don't need, like, they're going to fuck after this. Like, do we just did skydiving and bullet surviving? That's, that's fuckings.
01:40:37
Speaker
But there's no forced love interest. Maybe it's a Yancey Butler thing. Because the only other thing I can think of is Hard Target. And she doesn't fuck Van Damme in that either. Maybe she's lesbian. And these guys both tend to fuck things. Or she's in, ah she's in that Jim Caviezel camp where she's like uber religious and won't do a lot of sex. Oh, yes.
01:40:54
Speaker
Maybe. Yeah, yeah. But also, and that's fair, Jack, but also it would bother me less if I didn't think it was because of racism in the 90s that you can't have a black man kissing a white Yancy Butler, to be honest with you. My brain didn't even go there. Honestly, that's probably a big part of it. I'm sure the studio was like, yeah, as long you can make Jess Crossman a girl.
01:41:15
Speaker
They can hug. The Snipes can't touch her. They can hug. That's it. and They can hug, but only in the sky. Yeah, that's another thing too. Would have been like way better if she was just a lesbian in this movie, but they wouldn't have done that in the 90s either.
01:41:28
Speaker
Right. Nope. Right. And every time that comes up, because it's before other times. you what? Four stars. Four parachutes. Four parachutes. Racism dropped in. time that comes up, I think of Commando, because they had no problem with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Radon Chong.
01:41:43
Speaker
Well, because Arnold is not American. Yeah, maybe that's it. Arnold just Arnold just Arnold just picked the producer up by a scruff of his neck and was like, I'm going to kiss her.
High Praise and Recommendation
01:41:53
Speaker
He fought that. He didn't want that.
01:41:56
Speaker
He was, you know, I just recently was like, watch this whole thing about it where he didn't want there to be any love interest. I mean, it would would be confusing for people. They're trying to look at my muscles. Why are they looking at her when I'm here? My boobs are bigger than her. Look, can she make them dance? Boom, boom, boom, boom. No, she can't.
01:42:14
Speaker
Yeah, I recommend it. i'm I'm in the four parachute camp. There's there's a lot of script problems. Um... A lot of these, some of these no-name guys aren't great, like the other people that showed up.
01:42:26
Speaker
But you've got Gary Busey, and you've got Wesley Snipes, and you've got Swoop. Busey is great. Busey fucking great. The one person that I would have changed is that one guy that's talking about, like, we're going to do this.
01:42:41
Speaker
He's the parachute jump person, like the one in charge. The fucking... Dude from Napoleon i might that's like where these pants and you round kick to the face. and You got America.
01:42:55
Speaker
Yes Instead of who instead of who it is that' a no was that Which character though? Yeah, the guy with the ponytail. He's the drop zone instructor guy He's the one that just like his went out of focus like a motherfucker.
01:43:09
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He's the one that ran into the bar and was like, oh, bad news, yada, yada. He's he's yes he's a minor, major character. Yes. Don't worry about your camera. I'll fix it later.
01:43:21
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so makes it imp post But yeah, I'm saying that I think he would have made a better... Because he's like, all right, guys, let's get this going. We're going to be stars. We're going to be stripes. We're the red, white, and blue. I just think it would have been. It would have been Chris Farley.
01:43:37
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Or Chris Farley. Was he alive in 94? I don't remember when he died. Yeah, he was still alive.
Boxing Podcast Promotion and 'Skytember' Preview
01:43:43
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okay Oh, yeah. So Classy, you have a podcast that you do that you want to talk about. Plug away. Yes. When does this episode come out? Do you know day exactly? The first Monday of September. I want to say it's the second, maybe?
01:43:57
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Great, yeah. So I host co-host a podcast called The Mixed Company Podcast, all about professional boxing. And this is a very exciting time for my show because a super fight, a mega fight between Canelo Alvarez and Bud Crawford is happening on September 13th in Vegas.
01:44:14
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Fight of the year. Everybody's super excited. We're going to do a Canelo Crawford extravaganza episode that drops on 9-11, which Carrie Busey mentioned in this movie. But yeah.
01:44:26
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one He said something about 9-11 is not going to work for that guy, but I think he meant 9-1-1 because 9-11 hadn't happened yet. yeah I think it's from the future. I think it's from the future. I think he saw it. But yeah, when he kills Jagger and drops him into the the power line, said, is not going to help him now.
01:44:45
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That's fucking right. But yeah, so the Mixed Company podcast on Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music. If you're not a boxing fan or a sports fan, you know we really make this for beginners. you know we we really we We don't get too into the weeds about sports stats or all this stuff. you know we We want to bring in people into the greatest sport in the world as far as I'm concerned. So check us out.
01:45:10
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Subscribe, listen for 10 minutes on super fast speed. I don't care just to get the you know the stats up. And we're on YouTube as well. So look us up on there, like, and subscribe, leave the comment. And if you're if you know who Canelo Alvarez and Bud Crawford are, let us know who you think is going to win the fight on September 13th.
01:45:28
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Alvarez. Yeah, i think think I'm going, but actually, honestly, but I don't know. I just picked a name. that's it um So the rest of this month is Sky Timber.
01:45:41
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And next week, we'll be back talking about Terminal Velocity, the other movie that came out in 1994 about jumping out of planes, also starring a major league alum, Charlie Sheen.
01:45:52
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ah That one. I'm going to spoil it for you guys now. I think it's better than Drop Zone. don't Don't hit me, Classy. But they throw a fucking plane or a car out of a plane.
01:46:04
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And then Charlie Sheen has to climb out of the trunk of the car. While it's in the air. So that's pretty fucking cool. i got cool Yeah, that stunt makes the movie, I think I would give that movie 4.75 parachutes. I'm sorry, Wesley, you know I love you. know I love you, but goddamn, that is a stunt that, even for that time, was incredible. And I bet you Tom Cruise also saw that movie because that stunt happens with a guy on a biplane.
01:46:35
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And then, of course, we have our Patreon at patreon.com slash worst people. We have two tiers at the $3 tier. You get some archived episodes. You get a newsletter. You get um other stuff.
01:46:46
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Han took shots first. mean, they know because you dropped that banger fucking in in fucking episode ad. ah Yeah. Haunt took shots first. You can get those there early and ad free and uncut. And of course, you get our mental health episode at the $3 level this month for Sky Timber.
01:47:01
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We're talking about Point Break. Sexy faces. yeah Classic Point Break. Whitney, gun to your head, which are you sleeping with? You can only get one.
01:47:11
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God damn it. In that era. That's a tough one. Keanu. um one there's no rock answer i mean I'm going Keanu too. I'm going Swayze for flexibility alone.
01:47:24
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I'm going to run at him and he's going to hold me like he had the time of his life kind of thing. I feel like Keanu takes some ah oral initiatives. I can see that. You know what? That's a fair reason. Yeah. and then of our $5 level, we get what we mentioned earlier, latchkey vids, which is our sideshow where we talk about, and this one's in the image here. It's smaller because it's in four by three, like a TV.
01:47:51
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ah We talk about well forgotten or never known TV shows from the nineties. Right now we're talking about cop rock. And this month is episode nine of Cop Rock. We're counting down to the finish.
01:48:01
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Marital Blitz. Say it ain't so. And of course, you can always check out our merch store too at shop.badmoviesworstpeople.com. your merch. You get a bunch of cool merch. we don't I have everything as low as I'm allowed to price it because it's more about like you guys supporting the show by advertising it, not about us making any money. yeah It's the lowest possible price I can put on store. You know what we should try and get?
01:48:25
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and Nacho Libra hat. A Nacho Libra hat. That is not what they're called.
01:48:32
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A luchador mask? luchador mask? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. They actually did recently add some new merch. They added shorts. So you can get shorts with different logos and stuff on them. I'm not sure how that works out. I don't know how short they are. Tell me we can get like Jack's face on the crotch of the pants. i that that I literally got the email this morning that they added shorts. And I was like, I don't know what that means. If we're doing that, I'll let i'll let my hair down for that photo.
01:48:57
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I don't know. what the I'd rather put it on the ass part. It's just the back of his head. That's what they all classy. That's what they say. I'll just take a screenshot of Wesley Snipes' crotch from this movie when he was doing the skydiving training, and I'll just put it on some shorts. Fantastic. The bump you can see on the shorts actually ends after the shorts end. So...
01:49:25
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and then, of course, we'll have to thank Evasion for providing our opening and closing music because those guys rock and you should check them out on Spotify or wherever. Bandcamp, you can actually throw them some money. So thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you, Classy, for joining us.
01:49:40
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Until next week, I've been Derek. I'm Whitney. I'm Jack. I'm the Classy Alcoholic. And i was fucking awesome, man. Woo!