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HTSF - Ep 31: The Mandalorain Ch 13 - The Jedi
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In Chapter 13 of The Mandalorian, The Jedi, Din finally meets Ahsoka Tano, who’s been slicing and dicing her way through a corrupt magistrate’s goons. She bonds with Baby Yo—errr, Grogu—and reveals his name, his tragic Jedi daycare backstory, and his force powers. Ahsoka refuses to train him (classic Jedi move), but she does point Din toward the planet Tython, while also casually dropping the name of her real target: Grand Admiral Thrawn.
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Transcript
Introduction to the Episode and Ahsoka Tano
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Welcome back, folks, to Han Took Shots First. I'm Derek. I'm Jack. And I'm Whitney. And this week we're talking about Chapter 13 of The Mandalorian, The Jedi. Ooh.
00:00:52
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Yeah. Jambi. Jambi. don't know why we're saying the name of Pee-wee Herman's floating head. Well, you know what? Either way, mecca like a high, mecca hiney ho.
00:01:04
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No, Korean is Kampai. It's Gyombie. Japanese. then we just We literally just watched Kai. There's another language where it's Kampai, Kumbai.
00:01:16
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japanese ah Chinese is shen Shin Shin. I used to know all these fucking things. I only know it because Kim's convenience taught me that Giambi is how you say chairs in Korean. Well, cilantro.
00:01:27
Speaker
I only know because there was on an episode of... ah Cobra Kai, the guy said whatever whatever the Okinawan equivalent would be. Kari?
00:01:40
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Kari or something like that. And that's how Terry Silver figured out he was undercover
Cultural References and Ahsoka's Background
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because the rest of the people, the people from wherever he thought he was from, say Kampai. So it's very much like in Glorious Bastards when Fossbender orders a drink like like this instead of like this.
00:01:58
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Yes, exactly. It's a sit Cobra Kai once again stealing from Tarantino. Wait till do our Cobra Kai podcast. When I order her number three You can go right count me out.
00:02:09
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When I order like this, Turk is like, you want number two? And i'm like, no, one, two, three. That's just because you got little you're a Ninja Turtle? I am a Ninja Turtle. this episode, The Jedi, which we are talking about probably, was written and directed by Mr. Dave Filoni. I'm Grogu.
00:02:26
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I think you had to have him do this. do the Whitney, do the hand thing. um I think you had to have him do this because I'm sure you know this. Whitney might not.
00:02:36
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Ahsoka is his creation. Yeah, he directed, like I said in the trivia, which is a stupid thing to write because obviously he directed her cartoon and live action debut.
00:02:49
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I mean, you say obviously. I'm like, that's cool. I didn't know that. Well, exactly. I mean, obviously Derek because he's been doing this with me for so long now. he So ah just a quick quick little introduction to Ahsoka Tano. She was introduced in the Clone Wars and was not well received.
00:03:05
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She was just this bratty, forced... um She was a forced, what do you call it, Padawan on Anakin. And nobody liked it at first, but...
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The show made adjustments and she became a super beloved character. Like, I mean, coming out of the Clone Wars, everybody, and then into Rebels, of course, people were just like, I ah need to see her in live action. I want it so fucking bad.
00:03:30
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And we got it. And guess what? Did not disappoint. Rosario I didn't know i that she wasn't well-received at first. I knew that she was a big deal from the cartoons. She just, it was, i don't know, poorly written character. The actress, um oh, something Eccleston maybe?
00:03:47
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I want to give the actress her credit, so I'll look her up in a second. But yeah, she did fine. It just wasn't a great story about why Anakin would have this Padawan. They were trying to make her a difficult Padawan because Anakin was a difficult Padawan kind of thing.
00:04:03
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Yoda thought it would humble him and help him learn the finer points of being a Jedi. and it kind of did. I remember... from the episodes I have watched that she annoyed me and I was like, why do people love this so much? So it makes sense because she was like a petulant teenager because she yes was a petulant teenager. Exactly.
00:04:20
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And they made great adjustments to make her beloved character. So yeah, perfect. Right. Flawless. is Absolutely flawless. some stuff I was reading was saying she, whatever, I don't remember what year they said she was supposed to be born 36 BBY or something.
00:04:33
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And basically it comes out to, she's like 46 roughly here. Cause she was a teenager during the clone wars. So the star Wars, what's the, ah the tales of the Jedi, the anthology we did tales of the underworld.
00:04:46
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We covered that one. Tales of the Jedi actually has one of the short stories is her birth and her family's recognition of her force sensitivity. Pretty fun little story. The Togruta, which is her race, is very in tune with like they, they they it's, it reminded me very much of Native American people of our, of of our ah nation where they would hunt the animals, you know, like kind of pray to them, like, thanks for giving your life so my family could eat kind of thing. They did that like very full circle. They're using the whole thing. The, the, so it's, you know, the force has always been Georgia's spirituality instead of a religion should have been.
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And Paul, I mean, it makes sense. Exactly. You take spirituality plus politics equals religion. Yeah. Once they figured out the Jedi weren't paying taxes on Coruscant, they're like, oh, we're Jedi, too. Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:36
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Oh, right before we get all the way into this, because I forgot to say it, and I want to remind you guys again. Han Took Shots First is now available over on the Bad Movies Worst People
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00:06:26
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We love you guys. We want you to keep listening. Yeah, thank you for listening in the first place. trying to make my life slightly easier. so We're about that. So yes, this episode aired originally November 20th, 27th, 2020.
00:06:39
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So i was still in the panty. So people were just at home needing a savior. We needed something to do. got got
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Never mind. All right.
00:06:55
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OK. And also real quick, before you started, Jack, I watched some of the special features on the disc I have. And ah we had discussed how ah Paul Sun Hyung Lee had like the costumes and stuff and that Dave Filoni was all excited about it.
00:07:12
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ah The costume designer in this behind the scenes thing said he was a member of the 501st. Oh, fuck yeah. that in there Okay. 501st, Whitney, if you don't know, is a Star Wars like cosplay group that are very strict on the rules. like You can't just throw together a Stormtrooper costume. You have to submit yours. It has to be movie correct.
00:07:33
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There is no like, well, here's my take of like a Jungle Trooper. Nope. That wasn't what the Jungle Troopers were. Get out of our fucking fi o first So they were the they were the ones that were used at the end of season one as Moff Gideon. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:07:47
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Yeah. okay Because they were that good that Disney was like, fuck, dude, your costumes are are great. Oh, and also I realized while watching this the last time we talked about how she he he has to go to Caledon.
00:08:00
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which is either the planet or the city on the planet. One of them is Corgis. One of them is Caladan. I don't remember. But Caladan, know I remembered why I thought it was familiar. I wrote it down so I wouldn't forget.
00:08:11
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It's because that's the planet that Paul Atreides is from in Dune.
Ahsoka Tano's Character and Lightsabers
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Oh, well, Star Wars doesn't take from Dune, so move on.
00:08:23
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um So, yes, we start the episode. We're in this spoopy forest with a big fortress in the middle. It's like i'm watching Princess Mononoke. I mean, it was in this spoopy forest, but much like Mononoke, it's been stripped. Like this is this is what the Empire and the warlords that are remnants of the Empire do.
00:08:41
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And we are introduced to. um Not officially, but we see him up on the the battlements there. Michael Bean playing Lang. ah Love it Does his does his armor go back real quick if you can color and look, it gives me Anakin Skywalker, especially the Clone Wars cartoons. I know you won't know that as well, but it gives me this Anakin Jedi kind of look.
00:09:06
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Okay. I don't remember at all. As I'm thinking of it, you guys didn't watch the Clone Wars cartoons, but hopefully my cousin Shannon is watching this or listening to it because she's a fucking big Clone Wars fan, so hopefully she knows.
00:09:19
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So later on in the episode, I'm like... Kind of looks like that Bean guy. You know, it's funny. First time I watched this when it like was streaming, because my TV wasn't as good. I didn't wear glasses in 2020. So I'm watching. I'm like, they should have gotten Michael Bean to play this guy.
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And it's the end of the episode where it's a much more um um front face-to-face conversation. i was like, oh, that is Michael Bean. Oh, my God. I got to tell you, we I watched this episode for my fifth time with the bleeps.
00:09:49
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Oh, no, I'm sorry. It wasn't this episode. It was the Ahsoka series. I'm watching it with the bleeps and female bleeps straight up goes, man, they really should gotten and Rosario Dawson for this girl. And me and female bleeps just like look over like, that's that's Rosario Dawson.
00:10:04
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What? It was this whole thing. like like We need a Rosario Dawson type. yeah I didn't say her. I said a type. But speaking of Rosario Dawson, we also have her jumping around in the woods, chopping up these fucking dudes with her dual white lightsabers. Yeah, white sabers.
00:10:24
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Which I've mentioned, maybe Whitney wasn't on the episode. She took ah kyber crystals from an inquisitor, which are red, and purged them. And so how yeah that's how get them white, right? Exactly. Exactly. Because this is the first white lightsaber we've ever seen in live action.
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um And people had questions about it. I definitely was getting people like, hey, ah how's this happening there? I think you did tell us back then. i think you told us, but I also didn't question it. I was like, cool, white ones.
00:10:52
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I mean, there's no color lightsaber. don't know why people care so much. So ah has to have been kyber crystal that was bled, right? that That's how it turns red. And then refused.
00:11:03
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And to basically purify him is you decide not to go against... I mean, instead of pouring all your hatred and anger into a lightsaber, it's yeah the exact opposite. She fucking put all her good intention and hope and all that stuff.
00:11:17
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There is also synthetic kyber crystals, which the Sith used because they didn't have access to the kyber crystal. The Jedi had kind of monopoly on all the mines. So the synthetic ones automatically read.
00:11:30
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mean, it makes sense. The planet they're coming from is called Jeddah. The Jedi should be there. Yeah. That's true. That's one of the planets. Ilum is another one, which they end up turning into Starkiller Base. No.
00:11:43
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I was like, man, did she retain it? It is a name.
00:11:48
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I do love, though, when she's jumping around in the woods, like sneaking around, killing these dudes. This one where she like chops the the chunk out of the middle of this tree and like oh hits it at a dude. ah So it's very it's I thought of this while I was watching. It's like it's a horror movie, but it's not Jason. Right. Because he doesn't run.
00:12:07
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He doesn't disappear. It's not Freddy because she's not calling anybody bitch. This is the Predator. She's doing the Predator. Yeah, she's definitely the Predator. She is kill person jump into the forest where you can't see her, kill person B with person C's body.
00:12:21
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ah Love it. And then we meet ah Morgan Elsbeth, the magistrate played by Diana Lee Inosanto. so she's not really an actor. She is a stunt person and martial artist.
00:12:33
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um We will talk about her eventually on the main show. Probably not actually talk about her, but movies she's in because she's in yeah Blade and the Time Machine. But, and those are ones where she's credited as an actor, but in Blade, she was like bloodbath vampire.
00:12:50
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So she doesn't have a name or anything. Okay. In the, I know the scene. She's a stunt person who is featured as an actor, not just as a stunt person. Like you see her face. So, but I guess her dad was a martial artist.
00:13:05
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Um, he was in big trouble in little China. He was one of the hatchet men, hatchet men for the wing Kongs. And, uh, He was friends with Bruce Lee, and so she's got the goddaughter of Bruce Lee.
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yeah So when she's doing the fighting at the end, she's actually like a trained martial artist. That's where she shines. She's not a bad actress. She's doing her job, especially this character's kind of more stoic, but that's where she shines. She's also beautiful. She doesn't have much to do. She's just got to stand there and look angry.
00:13:33
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um By the way, the first voice of Ahsoka Tana is Ashley Eckstein. Eckstein. Eckstein. Not Eckstein. was like, is it Chris Eccleston's sister or something? That's what was in my head, too. But I just want to give her her props because she is good.
00:13:48
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um So after the sneaky fog assassin, she's talking to them and it's like, we don't know what it is, but she's like, you know what I want? And Morgan's like, you're going to learn anything from me and I'm going to start killing people if you don't fucking leave me alone.
00:14:01
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yeah These villagers mean nothing to me. yeah You, though, you're a Jedi, or at least were. You're an empath.
Ahsoka's Departure from the Jedi Order
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Yeah, cause she's not a Jedi at this point, guys. She quit the Jedi order when she was framed for a bombing and ah by Baris off omping ah bombing, but nobody believed her. So when they were like, hey, we also found you not guilty. She's like, cool.
00:14:24
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Go fuck yourself. I'm out. Yeah. I would also. So she gives Morgan one day to give her the information she needs, which turns out is just trying to find her name is Morgan, like Morgana.
00:14:39
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Yeah. Morgan Elizabeth. She's trying to find Thrawn, I'm assuming. Right. Oh, for know we don't find out until the end. Yeah. Well, she just says your master. I don't even think she says who but she does. Admiral Thrawn. Does she say it? Oh, the very last. Yeah.
00:14:54
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But I'm just I'm saying it because if you're listening to this, like we've been watching. as This is old news. And we got Mando and Grogu arriving at Corvus. Grogu doing his cute little thing, just really wanting that shifter nub.
00:15:08
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He is so disgustingly cute this episode. it hurts, dude. It fucking hurts.
00:15:15
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Anytime anyone says his name and he does a little noise, like we'll get there. we like His name is Grogu. He's like, Grogu? I'm like, oh! Don't do it again. Don't say it Grogu? bar Oh! It's like the fucking Grinch at the end of the fucking movie.
00:15:31
Speaker
Where is he? Oh, you're blocking him. You're blocking him. Oh, me? Yeah, your chair is blocking him. I think he fell. I thought you meant on our background. Yoda pushed him down. He gets up to so much mischief. I never know where he's at.
00:15:44
Speaker
Fair enough. indeed One of these days, he's just going to like... He's right behind me, isn't he? He's stealing your treats.
00:15:55
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my but Oh, no, my blue cookies. Have Bleep just sitting on the floor behind the chair, just like holding it up. I'm going to have him sit here for an hour long podcast for a five second joke. um So, yeah, they get there, head to town.
00:16:12
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He's got the baby with him hidden in a satchel. um But I mean, eventually they see it. But most of the time he's got the. ah cloak over the baby michael bean does end up seeing him he's like what the fuck you carrying that thing around yeah um ah we had the uh subtitles on and anytime it said the child coos my brain heard it in derrick's impersonation verner herzog the child is boogie-gogging The baby is going goo goo ga ga. Don't you know? Look at that. He is going to the nursing.
00:16:45
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He wants the boobie. That's what we should have got when he was like, well, in that episode, he's like, we'll be very quiet. He should have went off and been like, oochie, Gucci, little baby. Gucci, Gucci, goo.
00:17:00
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So he's going through town here trying to talk to people. They just keep running away from him. Please do not talk to me or them. Yeah. And this guy is talking to. Yeah. That says don't talk to us for our sake is ah Wing T. Chow.
00:17:12
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He's not an actor. He is a former Disney Imagineer, though. Oh, OK. And I guess in 2019, the thing I read said he was inducted into as like a Disney legend.
00:17:24
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So he must have been done done a bunch of stuff for the parks and whatnot. which So this is kind of them just like, hey, let's give him a little fucking easy paycheck and get his face in a Star Wars property. Yeah. I mean, plus, I mean, he doesn't have a lot to do, but he does it well.
00:17:39
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He definitely does it well for not being an actor. That's great. Yeah. And these fucking goons come up and take Amanda to the magistrate. It's a mix of whatever these local enforcers are that she has and pretty, I would say, expensive battle droids.
00:17:54
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Like they're definitely not the B1s that we've seen just Roger Roger, you know, clock clucking around. These guys are have their own droid language and they're doing flips on the roofs and shit. So, oh, that fucking reverse somersault onto the roof.
00:18:07
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yeah When that one rolled up onto the roof, I was like, dude, fuck this thing. i mean That's what I'm saying, though. like it To me, and maybe this is just me being a junkie instead of a a fan, and showing it's it's showing off how much she has spent on these droids.
00:18:22
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yeah these aren't These aren't fucking pneumonians with their little fucking B1s. They're not goombas. Yeah, I mean, we see it later. because when when ah Well, right now, when he goes into her little area there, like the whole town is...
00:18:37
Speaker
Disgusting like it's desolate it's burnt It's everything is trash ash He goes into the fence into her like Fenced in area and it's like Beautiful trees and a lake And all this fucking stuff and Yeah very fascism does all the money for herself Yeah very Mar-a-la-go if you will Yeah so I do like to the electric prison and things outside. Oh, the cages. It's very reminiscent of a crow's nest, but electrified.
00:19:04
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but Not crow's nest, but crow's cage. Did you guys notice when the dude's getting shocked, you see his skeleton every time, which is just something I always appreciate, so I'm going to mention it. Ever since Home Alone.
00:19:16
Speaker
like If you electrocute somebody and I don't see their skeleton. How do I know they're being electrocuted? Unless it's supposed to be like a really grounded thing, but this is sci-fi space adventure fantasy. So let me see that skeleton. Right. This guy's wearing fucking Beskar.
00:19:29
Speaker
Okay. We can, we can indulge in the fantasy. So she tries to hire him to go hunt down Ahsoka by offering to pay him with this Beskar spear.
Mandalorian's Mission and Grogu's Connection
00:19:39
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ah he He never says he ah anything of in agreement. He just kind of follows Michael being out, which he points out later.
00:19:45
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But also, I'm like, even if he said no, he's going to kill you and take that spear. yeah That spear is not yours. It's not. He's got whistling birds for every one of your fucking goons.
00:20:00
Speaker
Oh, he Ahsoka sneaks up on him while he's out looking for. I do like the false alarm. He sees one of these big ass creatures that kind of looks like if ah a poop with two legs, if an ad at Walker was an actual organic creature. Yes.
00:20:14
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Yeah. Bio at at. He's like, oh, it's a false alarm. it's just one of those things. And then she jumps up on him and they fight shortly. But he's like, no, no. Like I pointed out an episode, a very funny sentence. Baton Rouge sent me. Baton Rouge sent Baton Rouge. Baton Rouge. Morgan Elsbeth?
00:20:29
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No, no, no. Boca. Boca Tan. Boca Tan. Ahsoka Tan. Boca Tan. Boca Tan. Okay. Because they're wrong, but I thought Whitney was super wrong. Baton Rouge is closer to Boca Tan than it is to Morgan Elsbeth.
00:20:42
Speaker
I have word for Mardi Gras. It's time to go.
00:20:47
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Dude, and also in that behind-the-scenes things I watched, Filoni was like, oh, yeah, we designed their helmets to look like the owl, you know, whatever, because that's the night owls. Yeah. You know how I told you her name came from his wife's name combined with the name of their cat or whatever? dog or some shit.
00:21:04
Speaker
He's like, my wife really likes owls, so I made her mask like an owl. And I'm like, dude, you are such a s simp. Are you telling me you wouldn't do that for me? no it's but Not all of it. Don't tell everybody. It makes you sound sad.
00:21:18
Speaker
it makes you sound like you're getting fucking laid. I think Dave Filoni, bless that man. He's not a debonair, handsome, strapping lad. he um He is actually kind of a nerd. So I just think that he knows. He's like, this chick likes me. She lets me throw it in her.
00:21:36
Speaker
You want owls? I got owls. Throw it in her. Well, yeah. I don't know like it. That's how you... That's how you have sex with a loose junk. Like an octopus. Like Madman Migs. just it my hand and throw it in there. I thought you were doing the rolling dice thing, not octopus.
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah, the octopus takes his penis and throws it.
00:21:59
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Like a Beskar spear. and Look, if you see this, the octopus is approaching the female. He's thrown his dick at her. I could be very wrong. It could have been a very stoned conversation I was having.
00:22:10
Speaker
Sounds like one your dreams. Go on. But she's she spots Grogu and she's like, hopefully we're talking about this motherfucker. so Yeah, I love it because it's it's it's in a battle. Like, hey, I'm not here to fucking fight. I'm here to talk.
00:22:22
Speaker
Hopefully about that guy. Yeah. So yeah, night falls and we cut to like this little electronic campfire. And this the scene I have up isn't the exact one, but it's like two solid minutes of Ahsoka and Grogu just staring at each other. And Mando's just pacing around like, what is happening? Look at that forest, by the way. Of course you need some sort of electronic campfire. you That thing is about to go up.
00:22:47
Speaker
with if You can't even smoke a cigarette in that forest, is dude. No, no joints allowed, You got any death sticks? Put them out, dude. Put your death sticks out. You are going to set this planet on fire except for this little ah stone mason thing with a zen garden inside. They'll be fine.
00:23:04
Speaker
So he's like, can you understand him? And she's like, yeah, Grogu and I so ah feel each other's thoughts. And he's like, Grogu? And that's but that's what that's when the baby's like, what? And then he just goes, fucking Grogu. This is like when I first got my cat and I was drunk. was like, wonder if she knows her name.
00:23:22
Speaker
ah She does, too Oh, she does. It's even better at the beginning of the next one, but yeah we'll get there. Darn Kentucky snarfing or whatever. Darn Kentucky snarfing. Dank Farrick. There you go.
00:23:39
Speaker
So then Mardi Gras comes over and says, darn Kentucky snarking. What are you doing with southern places all of sudden? Darn Kentucky snarfing. Bad bruce. I can't believe you that. Is Star Wars not a Star Wars western movie?
00:23:54
Speaker
What does that have to do with the It's down south because he she kissed her brother. There you go. oh that's fair. Thank you. All right. So I guess that makes sense because in game of throne and in Game of Thrones, the incestuous ones were in the south. Yeah. yeah Got it. I just made a connection. I never thought about it.
00:24:16
Speaker
But she gives us a little bit of his history. He was raised on Coruscant. He was saved from the Jedi Temple. And then after that, his thoughts are dark because he's lost. He's alone. And Mando's like, well, i was taught I was tasked to bring him to a Jedi.
00:24:30
Speaker
You're a Jedi. So hi Merry Christmas. Have a baby. Have a Grogu. It's Bob. We had a baby. ah We had baby. It's a boy. Ahsoka is one of the ah people in this universe that's met Yoda.
00:24:46
Speaker
Yes. Like she, she spent a lot of time in the temple. So, i mean, she definitely, cause she even says like, I've only met one other of his kind. Yeah. and She even says his name. She never met Yaddle, huh? Oh, Yaddle died in the prequels, huh? she Yeah, she dies um in Tales of the Empire. You see Dooku kill her.
00:25:05
Speaker
and Okay. So somewhere between one and two. It's right before Ahsoka was at her graduation ceremony and never got a chance to meet Yaddle. Dooku's person that... Oh, hope I get to meet her. Dooku.
00:25:17
Speaker
excuse me Dooku is that person that is now just almost completely android no that's that's who they replaced Dooku with ah Grievous Dooku was Christopher Lee oh Miguel from Captain America 2 death too soon yes people everyone when you mention Christopher Lee everyone thinks Miguel from Captain America dead too soon but not Not the white wizard?
00:25:40
Speaker
Yeah, no, nobody thinks of that. No, definitely not Saruman. Nobody thinks Saruman. They only think of Miguel. What was that one fucking... Wasn't he also in Captain America? The real Captain America? The weird 70s one that we That's what was saying. The one we're talking about right now? God, Whitney's here. We've said the name three times. Are you listening? Miguel. His name is Miguel. Miguel.
00:26:04
Speaker
When he's going back and listen to this, like, how did i miss that? I'm making chocolate covered bananas for dinner. So she is listening. All right. Does this say chocolate covered bananas?
00:26:16
Speaker
Is that like a chocolate martini? Is that the espresso martini? Keep me up all night. In the morning, she tests him. She does it she floats a stone to him.
00:26:27
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She's like, send it back. And he's like, meh. And tosses it on the ground. bur And he's got like the sad ears going on. They're all down and floppy. Good puppeteering. Yeah. Phenomenal. She's got a line from ah but episode one, right? I sense much fear in you.
00:26:43
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And he's like and then she's like, you know what? Let's see if he listens to you. And I like Mando's thing like, yeah, that'd be a first. yeah I like i like their length first. I know. it yeah I was like, oh, yeah, she gets she gets a little sexy there. She's like, I like first to good or bad. They're always memorable.
00:27:01
Speaker
And in my first time fucking a Mandalorian in his head, he's like, wonder if she's fucked a Mandalorian. That's a first. If I can keep my helmet on, I'm game. Good or bad, it's always memorable. will I request you keep the helmet on. um You have to, right? going to shoot some whistling birds, dude.
00:27:15
Speaker
It keeps the mystery. Talk about a whistling bird.
00:27:21
Speaker
Look, I can bukkake by myself. Whistling birds. This is the way. This is the way. This is the way. This is the way. This is the way. This is the way. Armor! I'm sorry. I'm sorry. sorry. My lightsaber i ignited early.
00:27:34
Speaker
What did he call them? and Light blades? or Oh, laser swords. Laser swords. Which a term that they were toying with with the original.
00:27:44
Speaker
I like it though because he says that to her. He's like, I don't think your laser swords are going to be good against all this artillery. And she just kind of smiles. like it's a It's a derogatory or down-talking term of what it is. But...
00:27:58
Speaker
It's it's laser swords, but they were going to that's what they were going to be called. Like George had it written. He he wrote it in his notebook laser swords, but lightsaber. What a fucking much better name. Yeah. did did you punch up Did you punch up the script, Jack?
00:28:12
Speaker
You punched up the script. Dude, I wasn't born. You said that on the last episode, by the way, because I was just editing stuff recently. Like, put it in my notebook. And that's been in my head for like a week. I remember what I was going to say now. You can take this out if you want to.
00:28:26
Speaker
But all fucking week. Berries and cream, berries cream. Did you and cream? I was just watching something and someone was wearing around with a berries and cream haircut and that's all I was doing in my head. I was like, this all fucking weird. And now you're gonna have, um, put it in my notebook.
00:28:45
Speaker
Put it in my notebook. But yeah, she's like, you have a, or he has too strong of an attachment to you. So I can't train him because attachment is bad. As I've seen what happens. Yeah. She's like, i seen it.
00:28:57
Speaker
I ain't going there again. I'm going down that road. Nope. Yeah, you don't want to go down that dark one. Wait minute, where is this? Has she dueled Darth Vader yet? So you can tell me because i read something...
00:29:11
Speaker
So it was Soka's last appearance in the star Wars timeline before this was the final scene of family reunion and farewell. 2018 took place in an undisclosed period after the destruction of the second death star, her and Sabine Wren were setting out to search for Ezra brizzard Bridger. Bridger.
00:29:26
Speaker
So that's the end of rebels, right? Uh, Dave Filoni has said that her meeting with Mandalorian here might, he has didn't confirm, but it might chronologically take place before that scene.
00:29:38
Speaker
Which if it does, that's fine. The big deal is she duels. So it's in Rebels. If that takes place after... Yes, she's already dueled Darth Vader. She knows that it's Anakin. Because in Rebels, she does... It's a really fucking cool scene. I know it's a shit animation cartoon, but...
00:29:54
Speaker
She, okay, very much like Obi-Wan in this series, she does the strike where it takes like half his helmet off and it's the Anakin face with the rest Vader mask. They took it directly from Rebels and that's when she looks and she's like, oh shit, my master's fucking dead.
00:30:10
Speaker
Like there is no Anakin anymore. Like I just need to make sure for myself. And then very coolly they disappear and we think she's dead. She's not dead. um Are they going to bring Ahsoka back? yeah there's yeah and so Season 2 is next year in production. like it's it's We're probably wrapping up on filming soon and then mumbo jumbo. When's Mandalorian and Grogu? 2027? May of... Oh, I thought it was 26. It could be 26. I don't remember.
00:30:38
Speaker
But I think I heard that Ahsoka was going to be before that. but i i read I read a bunch of stuff and it's all speculation. So who the fuck knows? Show me a trailer. yeah I don't trust you anymore. Hey, mister, I got an extra $3.
00:30:51
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00:31:03
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00:31:35
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00:31:48
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Villains and Confrontations
00:32:11
Speaker
ah But yeah, he's he's like, I'll help you with the magistrate if you see that he's properly trained. And she's like, okay, but we learn a little bit about the magistrate, ah Morgan Elizabeth. She worked for the Empire. She plundered a bunch of worlds. She's a bad bitch.
00:32:26
Speaker
I believe she either works for Sinard Yards or we'll find out she stole it. Sinard Yards is who did the TIE Fighters and shit. ah Okay. Okay. Well, she is in at least most of Ahsoka, so we probably learned it there. Okay, it is her. Yeah.
00:32:40
Speaker
Oh, definitely. i was going to ask if they used this. I didn't remember. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember, but I saw it on IMDb. It's like seven episodes. Ahsoka has a line in this episode. I wish I remembered word for word because Mando asked who she is, and she's like, oh, she's from a fucking, like,
00:32:56
Speaker
ancient world of a fucking ah dying ah her people were ravaged during the Clone Wars that's the Nightsisters man like people watching this for like I know exactly who she's from makes sense with her clothing and stuff because she's got the red yeah even that little bit of tattoo on the little moon yeah let's call it a dream catcher not that I know much about the Nightsisters but I know from Ahsoka basically Yeah.
00:33:22
Speaker
We'll get you up to it. The Clone Wars and it delves deep into them. So that's what's good about that show is like if you want to learn more, it's cool. If not, Derek, just you, we talked about before you watched Ahsoka without watching any of the cartoons. You were fine.
00:33:35
Speaker
Oh, I was totally fine. I loved it. yeah But if you want to like if you want to learn more like myself, it's like, cool, now I'm going to go watch The Clone Wars. I think I may have said when we were talking about it, Whitney was like, ah they brought up Ezra Bridger's master.
00:33:48
Speaker
She's like, do I need to know? Yeah, she's like, do I need to know who that is? I Googled it. It was a cartoon character. I was like, nope. And then we just kept watching the show and nothing was lost. What Whitney might enjoy knowing is it's Freddie Prinze Jr. voicing him.
00:34:01
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, so that's why they can't bring him back because he's 150 years old now. Although I think in a Soka, uh, uh, what's her name? Not Sabine. Fucking Harrison Dula has a picture of Freddie Prince Jr. On her dash. Cause that's her. Oh, you know what? I do remember hearing about that.
00:34:20
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But they're not going to bring it back cause he's too old. Yeah, he's a he's Freddie Prinze Jr. is like 82 now. Yeah. He's the same age as us, probably about 40 years older.
00:34:33
Speaker
But so Ahsoka fucking solo charges this fucking fortress and Lang is out there with his troops. She just hops up on the wall and starts chopping people up, chops the bell in half, which is very cool.
00:34:45
Speaker
um because they're like they have the alarm bell that they've been setting off, much like the forge iron in Andor. Is this where she throws down the piece of armor?
00:34:56
Speaker
Just about. Yeah, it's right after that. yeah She like chops all the shit up. I just want to talk about the bell because it's funny because they're ringing it for warning. She cuts it in half, and when it falls, it still goes boom, boom, like two more times, like, no warning, motherfucker. Yeah, still we're still in danger.
00:35:12
Speaker
I do have a piece of trivia that Jack will enjoy because he likes guns and Star Wars and Star Wars guns. have a name for Michael Biehn's gun, which I don't have a picture of. Oh, good, because it's the first pump-action shotgun I can think of in Star Wars.
00:35:26
Speaker
It was in the the illustrated whatever guide from Mandalorian or whatever. ah It's a B-A-R-M-S-T-12 scattergun.
00:35:37
Speaker
Fuck yeah. And the reason it was mentioned in the the IMDb trivia was because people were like, it looks an awful lot like the gun Michael Biehn was using in Aliens. Uh-huh. I'm like, yeah, it sure does.
00:35:48
Speaker
You fucking bet, dude. Why wouldn't you? wouldn't you throw little Easter egg Yeah, like when when he shot it at, I think it's Ahsoka right now when she fucking pops up in the roof. Yeah.
00:35:59
Speaker
You can see multiple laser blasts and very, just, i was like, that's a shotgun. That looks exactly, and scattergun makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, she throws the pauldron down.
00:36:09
Speaker
Your bounty hunter failed. there's ah that's They start having a shootout. That's when she takes off. And Morgan is like, all right, well, kill the prisoners. Start going door to door and killing those people, too. And that's when Mando swoops in, saves the prisoners.
00:36:24
Speaker
um We have a really cool segment of like Ahsoka, just like assassins creeding around the fucking town. Just take that. the term. That's the term. My favorite one is the one I used for the the intro picture, but it's so I've got the raw picture here.
00:36:39
Speaker
I don't know what she's doing, but she's got the two lightsabers like put together and like pulls it out from each other. It's like, look at that little smirk. I mean, like it's it's. beautiful little smirk.
00:36:51
Speaker
It's kind of like when, uh, Darth Maul takes apart his big lightsaber and makes the smaller one or whatever, except for she's doing like the lasers in the middle. She like pulls them apart. Like they're,
00:37:03
Speaker
i don't know if she just knows exactly how quickly they ignite and she knows it looks cool even though no one can see her She's like, this is for the action movie. This is for myself. I just like looking cool, dude. Because these robot dudes I'm hunting can't see me, but I'm about to do some cool shit. The camera can.
00:37:19
Speaker
And then Lang and Mando face off. And I like when they face off and Ahsoka's already taken out all these dudes and she's perched on the wall like Batman. So Lang is like Michael Bean is looking like, all right. So you you put in with the Jedi. Cool.
00:37:35
Speaker
A bad call because Jedi's never win in this universe. Yeah. And then she just she literally just Batman leaps off the wall to the inside to go fight. And then and then Bean says a line that I'm like, well, obviously he's like, well, this can go.
00:37:50
Speaker
One of two ways. And I'm like, exactly. But I like this. But I like the conversation, though, because he's like, look, dude, I'm like a hired gun. There's some causes in this world worth dying for. This ain't one of them.
00:38:03
Speaker
You know, and he's just kind of there. he's He's slow planning to hear. And you can hear these these fucking chicks are scrapping it up. And I will say, without the force, well, without... without this version of the force, because I will say that night sisters are force users.
00:38:18
Speaker
I think so. It's a version of very much like, because Whitney was on with ah Acolyte. Yeah, I going to say. Very witches. like, that's their version of the force. It's not the Jedi force, but it's- can't remember what they called it. Were they not- Threads? Night witches?
00:38:31
Speaker
No. They had to have been similar. Well, it never got confirmed. It never got confirmed, and sadly, we won't probably ever get it confirmed, but they were just called witches. But it's also, it's it's the- ah Old Republic era, right? Or High Republic era. High Republic, yeah. Maybe they weren't that yet. It could be pre. It could be proto fucking Nightsisters. It could be something adjacent. But yeah, she fucking holds her own with this Beskar spear. it's a we don' We're not going to describe the whole thing, obviously, because that's just not doing it justice. But best part of the episode, I think, is these two fighting.
00:39:05
Speaker
The white lights versus the dark Beskar spear. Very cool looking. And while the battle's happening, we only see bits and pieces of the battle, but it's cool. It's not like they're copping out because we cut away to, as Star Wars does, cut away from the lightsaber fight to something less exciting.
00:39:22
Speaker
However, in this case, it's almost as exciting, even though nothing's happening. It's just Mando and Michael Biehn facing each other, listening to the battle, waiting to see what's going to happen. Because like if Morgan wins...
00:39:33
Speaker
Michael B is going to try some shit. If she loses, theoretically, he'll walk away. We find out that's not the point. What happens? But I really like for the people watching on video, you can see my username here.
00:39:45
Speaker
Johnny Ringo. It's my Star Wars version of Johnny Ringo. It's not bad. Who I would have spelled it J.A. not J.O. That says just smell that. Yeah. Johnny smells like Star Wars died.
00:39:58
Speaker
But um mean he has he has an almost exact line from Tombstone because Michael being played Johnny Ringo in Tombstone, says hazy he says, he says to Mando, I've got no quarrel with you, Mando.
00:40:09
Speaker
And it's almost exactly like when he was talking to Doc Holliday and he's like, my fight's not with you, Doc. Yeah, yeah, that's true. but it's a cool thing where he's like, let me ah let me just kind of slow play. i don't have a fight with you.
00:40:21
Speaker
so you hear that? It sounds like it's over, and it sounds like you're side one. I'm just going to put this gun down here. I'm not doing anything sketchy, by the way. I'm just putting my gun down. I'm not going to try and pull this little gun behind me. I'm not going to pull that. Oh, I did try and pull it.
00:40:35
Speaker
Mando's on to you. yeah You're fucking dead. Yeah, yeah, because he's like, well, I guess I'll pretend I'm going to fight back. when i'm gonna pretend I'll put down my gun because these guys are going to kill me. It's like, these are the good guys. If you would have just put down your gun, Mando wouldn't let you walk away.
00:40:49
Speaker
i just He doesn't have trust in anybody, though, because of who he He's like, I would shoot you in the back. and So I have to assume that you're goingnna shoot me in the back. Yeah, so he pulls it out, and Mando's like, bang, you're dead.
00:41:01
Speaker
Look at that. I can take you in warm or I can take you in cold. Ooh, I took you in dead. Yeah. said It's a little bit in between because it's fresh. Ooh, I can get you before you're cool.
00:41:14
Speaker
Joke's on you. You would never cool. So she pays him with the spear. He's like, no, no, I didn't finish the job. And she's like, that's true. But this belongs with a Mandalorian, hence gaining his trust. It belongs in museum.
00:41:26
Speaker
it It's being taken care of by top men. What do you mean? Top. Men. Love it.
00:41:37
Speaker
So he goes to get Grogu to bring back to Ahsoka, but she's follows him there and she's like, no, you're like his dad.
Future Paths and Reflections
00:41:45
Speaker
I can't train him. There's one other option.
00:41:48
Speaker
Yeah. Go to Tython, ah ancient temple, seeing stone, et cetera. If he chooses. It's a force fax machine is what it is. Yeah. I mean, it's a it's the interweb. It's the force Internet.
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah. It's putting out like a distress signal only to foresee people. It's an AOL chat room for force users. yes Who's on my force list? You got to be careful going to AOL chat rooms looking up force chat. That's going to be a whole different thing, though. um Because I'm a Jedi, I'm looking for young users because the older ones are harder to train.
00:42:22
Speaker
Weird thing is everybody in that trap chat room is 18 and female. Weird. My God. When you ask ASL, they're like 18F wherever you are. Yeah. ah In your neighborhood.
00:42:33
Speaker
There are 18 year old MILFs in your neighborhood. Did you know that you could empty your balls into an AI slut right now? That's the new one, by the way.
00:42:44
Speaker
Oh, I'm not familiar. I am. I am familiar. um
00:42:51
Speaker
But she's like a Jedi. If he sends out if he connects to the force, sends out a signal, a Jedi might come. But there aren't many of us left. And that's the end of the episode. They take off into space to go to Tython and meet Boba Fett.
00:43:06
Speaker
Boba Fett. Hi. Boba Fett. You don't know, but he's there. Because next week, we'll be talking about Chapter 14, The Tragedy, which is the return of Tamora Morrison and Ming-Na Wen, as you can see in this picture if you're watching on video.
00:43:22
Speaker
And I remember when this happened, I was very excited. Directed by Robert Rodriguez, who is a hit and miss director. But when he hits, he hits hard. He does action well. Almost always, in my opinion. Like, yeah, his movie may not be your favorite, but the action scenes are probably good.
00:43:37
Speaker
At least for a while. He's had a lot of misses in the last 15 years or so. Oh, yeah? He's been having like ah like a lot of girlfriends? Yeah. A lot of misses. um And it so, again, let me remind you guys, Bad Movies, Worst People. Go to the Bad Movies, Worst People feed.
00:43:53
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00:44:05
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00:44:56
Speaker
right All right. So, I mean, she just spoke to you right away, though. like, basically, you saw this character and was like, I like that. Yes. I think they did amazing things with, and I mean, Rosario's.
00:45:10
Speaker
Come on. Perfect, perfect casting for this is Rosario Dawson. Okay, good. Because freaking love her as it. mean, again, i don't know anything about Ahsoka prior to the season that I watched of Ahsoka. Yeah.
00:45:23
Speaker
But I think she does a phenomenal job. And I've seen the the pictures of your little cartoon thingies. you little heart Your little cartoon thingies.
00:45:35
Speaker
Baby, do the cartoon thingy. ah So, um but yeah, no, I really like ah really liked her. I liked this episode. I liked that you got to see um some fucking fighting.
00:45:49
Speaker
And it's a yeah nice mix of like Western and samurai, which are very much the same thing yeah when it comes to. For sure. Most Westerns were remakes of samurai films. but this is why it's perfect, though, because he's got the guns. She's got the swords.
00:46:00
Speaker
So there it is it is a cowboy and a samurai ah storming the same castle. Yeah. Storming the castle, storming the castle. So that's it for this week. Thank you guys for tuning in.
00:46:13
Speaker
Thank you. Tune in next week for chapter 14, The Tragedy. Sounds like something tragic is going to happen. I've been Derek. I'm Jack. And I'm Whitney. May the force be with you.
00:46:25
Speaker
And also with you. Boba Fett.
00:46:59
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Oh