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Introduction and Series Rewatch Habits
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All right, welcome back to Fright Central. I'm Doc. I'm back here again with Keck, where we talk all things horror. And yes, that includes fantasy horror. And we're going to talk about the season two of Witcher. Oh, well, we're going to we'll have a little recap of season one as well. But I'll let you take it from there, Keck. First off, what's going on, man? How you doing? Not much. Yeah, I mean, been
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Welcome to life.
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know just watching a lot of uh catching up on a lot of series uh like Midnight Mass and uh Lock and Key season two and uh and The Witcher season two so yeah yeah The Witcher and I went back um and like I I said I was gonna like I told you like um like a few days ago that I was thinking about like
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going back and like rewatching The Witcher season one but like I just haven't had that much time so I like skimmed some of like my like more like favorite episodes and like my favorite scenes so like I had like a little bit on my mind but I just wasn't able to go back and like it would have been like my third time rewatching it I mean it would have been nice to have it fresh on my mind but it was just like you know
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whatever. And I mean, I feel like I retained enough
The Witcher Season Two Review
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of it. And like, as we're gonna talk about, like, I thought the Witcher season two, like just did an excellent job of like tying up all the loose ends, like all the hangers that the the questions I had from the first season, like the second season just did an excellent job of bringing everybody everything into place.
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Absolutely. When I watched the, when I finished watching the second season, I like you didn't watch the rewatch the first season. I just watched like a recap, like an extended recap. And that's what you did. You watched like a, like a YouTube like recap. Yeah. And then I watched the one on Netflix as well. And then like, when I finished the second season, I was like,
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I kind of wish I went back and rewatched the first season. But I had said, yeah, you were like, I'm not really, I don't think I'm going to go back and watch it. Had you only seen the first season once? Yeah, I've only watched it. Okay. Yeah, I probably like would have like, in that case, I probably would have like gone and rewatched it. But I mean,
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I know you're also like a big content themed and like you try to absorb as much like content as like you possibly can. So like that would have kind of like fucked up your, you know, your feng shui or whatever. Yeah, I mean, I do go back and watch a lot of series that I've seen before multiple times. Yeah, but I think I think you watch 24 like rewatch the entire like, I don't know how many like nine seasons or whatever.
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Yeah, every time a new season come out, I rewatch it. So yeah. And you would like rewatch it with like, I think you rewatch it like four different people or something like that. Like what mine or I think you rewatch to an alley. Like, it's just like you're like, like you would make a friend and you're like, yo,
00:03:26
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How would you like to like hang out with me and like watch like. Anyway, so yeah, I guess yeah you absorb a lot of content, but you actually.
00:03:38
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or thorough and you do go back and rewatch a lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But also with the first season of The Witcher, I mean, I thought it was OK and like I enjoyed it, but like I felt the timelines were a little bit confusing for me. That's why I didn't go back and watch it because I was like, that's all right. I don't feel like I need to go back and watch it. But since season two finished now, I'm like, all right, now I can't wait for The Witcher Blood Origin, the prequel series that comes out this
Witcher Prequels and Game Connections
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year. Then I'm going to watch the
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The animated movie that came out last year that I didn't watch yet that. Is a prequel also to this so it takes place in between it it's a Geralt.
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Yeah. One of the people that did the animation, like one of the people that was involved in it is the guy that did the animation for the second Witcher game, what project CDR. So he was like actually involved in the animation. I noticed I didn't watch the animated thing yet. I only saw like a small part of it, like sort of like a trailer.
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And like, I noticed his influence right away. And I looked up to see if he did it. And sure enough, yeah, he was involved. Yeah, when I was watching a graphic novel. Yeah, when I was watching a like an ending, one of those like YouTube videos of Witcher season two, they were had mentioned that we're like, oh, in case you missed the animated movie and like they kind of showed you a little bit and talked about what it was about. I was like, shit, I should watch that.
00:05:12
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and now like season two I thought it was so good that it's gotten me more interested in the world and and now I might actually start playing the game even though I've talked about it for years. Well one thing I did not realize until like I started like until actually like right around the start of um
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the first season of The Witcher when I found out they were developing into a series. I didn't realize that, like, not necessarily the first Witcher game, but I believe the second Witcher game and the third Witcher games are actually made to take place, I believe, after the books are finished.
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So I know that's the case. I don't know. Like I've heard it explained to me like several different ways, but apparently it had to do with like legal disputes between the author and the makers of the game. The author wasn't real keen on having his work made into a video game. He thought, you know, I understand that he probably thought like, oh, you know, they're going to butcher this story. I've now heard that he's like kind of come to like be all right with it when he saw like
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how good the games were and like how well they did. I think the Witcher 3 is considered to be like one of the most played games in the history of video games. Like it's still like whenever there's a YouTube video up like and this has been out I think it got released in 2015 or 2016 I think it was 2015.
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Like it is still today, one of the most played games. And like whenever there's videos out on YouTube, like there's mad comments, like all cool. Like it's really, really amazing. So I think the author has kind of like come around to it. At least that's what I was reading. But originally there was like a legal dispute. And I believe if you people listening want to like look up to it, like I think there was,
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like a small legal proceeding. I don't know if they ever went to court but like there was copyright and shit like that discussed so there was some hostilities.
Geopolitical Complexities in The Witcher
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Okay well uh yeah well
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Yeah. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah. One, I was watching the video on what we could possibly see in the future. Yeah. They were saying that like in the game, there's like seven different endings or something like that. So they're not sure like which in the game. I think there's I think there's more than seven. I think there's like 50 different. Oh, maybe several different endings. It might have been what he said. Yes. So I don't know. Like,
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how close those that the third game is to the books or not so I mean I'll probably get around to the books. Yeah, you can do you can Google the I think like, I think there's like, um, I think there's like in the ending story they tell you like how everyone ended up.
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And I think that there's only like maybe a half dozen like real hard endings, but I think that like, there's based on decisions you made, there's like certain like, like sort of like side quest endings that could be changed in like a formula of like 50 different paths or something like that. But like, yeah, I mean, there's only like six or seven like concrete
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like like major decision endings at least I don't know I've only played through the game twice so I can't really say for sure but I mean you can always like look it up if you're interested in knowing more about the game and how the game relates to the actual series and the books and whatnot yeah some major differences
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Yeah, I kind of like how you don't know which direction they're going to take. Yeah. Like the third season, if it's going to be straight up like right, right from the books, or is it going to be like a little bit of the books and the game or what direction they're going to go into? And I kind of like that. So it leaves it open. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Up to up to guesses. So I've noticed certain scenes in the series seem to pay homage to the game.
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But the thing is though, the series is based on the books. And so in order for them to incorporate hardcore storytelling elements from the game, I'm not sure how that would be possible. Because if it comes sequentially after all the books,
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in like sort of like an alternative reality of the game create for itself. I don't know how they'd be able to do it but you know what, getting into the second season now and just the series in general, I mean, they're very very talented people that are making this.
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I love season two. And you know, I think this is a good way to get in how we felt about it. But like, like, they're very clever storytellers. And I would not put it past them that they could figure out how to like integrate all different types of things. Because I thought season two was like exceptional. What did you think just initial reaction?
00:10:35
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Yeah, like, just like you said, I thought it was fantastic. And like, when I know they talked about like, you keep hearing all these, oh, the next game of Thrones, next game of Thrones. And the first season didn't really feel like that to me. But I feel like this season, you got more of like, a feel of like, what's going on in different places. I think my only drawback was that, like,
00:10:58
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game of thrones you knew kind of where everything was especially with the intro for game of thrones kind of mapped out for you where all the locations were so it kind of helped when you watched the show it would have been cool if they did that with the witcher i mean that definitely like because playing the game like i had like trouble i'm like wait so tamaria is
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where exactly like I had trouble like apparently like you can download if you go on Google and do Witcher Max you can download like they have this for Game of Thrones too where you can like see the different continents but like geographically one thing about the series and the game
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I'm kind of hard pressed to tell where everything is in the world where the main thing takes place because I'm assuming they're going to start getting into the different dimensions and portals in season three. But in their main reality, where Geralt and Yennefer and all the characters are based,
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and they're playing the reality like geographically it's a nightmare in my head. I really don't understand like I don't understand like Tamaria, Redania, like I'm not sure like apparently there's provinces and like I have no idea where everything is. I know Nilfgaard like where they control is more in the south and I know Nilfgaard's kind of in the war with the north but like geographically where everyone hails from and like where the conflicts originate
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i have not watched i have not read the books yet so it's still a fucking total maze in my head no idea i'm assuming centra is in the center that's about all i know baby i mean i don't i don't know and like i'm not a hundred percent certain as to like the politics as to why
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Um, because like it seems like everybody like has their own piece of the pie they all have like adequate land, and like most of the kingdom seem pretty prosperous. So I'm not exactly sure what has created the political and civil strife that has led them all to war.
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And I think that's something that I probably won't get until like I read the books because like the producers of the show had pretty much said, you know, this is for fans that fan base we've already created through the books and the game.
Ciri's Role and Revelations in Season Two
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So like, I guess they didn't really feel like maybe the origin show because you had just mentioned that I found out about that show after the final episode of The Witcher season two.
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after the credits i thought it was like i thought i was like damn they're showing like a trailer for season three already because it looked like but like it then it showed with your origins and i was like oh it looks like this is
00:13:58
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probably going to be what explains what I just said I had all that confusion with. Do you understand where all the conflicts come from? You know, you finished it so you now know that Amir Nilfgaardian Emperor Serilla is his daughter.
00:14:18
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And so I should have said spoilers before we started, but I guess if you're watching or listening to this, if you haven't seen the picture yet, it's been out for months. And let's always start with the recap of why don't you start the recap of the first season before we start just real quick to also if you didn't know this, that means you never played the game because the Witcher season three or the Witcher three, the Wild Hunt video game,
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the whole premise of the game is that Amir, the emperor of Nilfgaard, hires Geralt to track down Ciri because she's gone missing. And so the premise of the third game is, you know, the wild hunt is like actively after Yennefer, they're, they're hunting a surreal constantly. And the emperor of Nilfgaard hires Geralt and it's like,
00:15:11
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with all resources necessary, all means necessary, I need you to get to my daughter. So like, you kind of so what I'm saying is, if like, this is a spoiler to you, fuck you.
00:15:23
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I mean, I didn't play the game. So that was like, if I hadn't watched season two, obviously, if you're listening to this, you've watched season two by now. But that was a complete surprise to me. I did not see that coming. Well, I wouldn't have seen that coming either. Like, if I had not known it from the games, like, I would have had no fucking idea. Like, I would have been like, what? Like, that's a fucking crazy twist. But yeah, like, that's the thing. And you would think
00:15:53
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I mean, tell me if you disagree, but like, did he really have to go through all that fucking war just to like find this. He couldn't like just send the message to her and be like, yeah, like.
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uh you know the emperor of Nilfgaard wants to contact you princess he's actually your long lost father and he'd like to meet you it seems like Nilfgaard decided like nah we're not doing that i'm not revealing that i'm going to like straight up sachsintra
00:16:29
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murder the entire population just to get to my door like that was this whole thing like I don't understand like why he needed to do you know what I'm saying like my main beef with this series so far has been that I do not understand like where all the turmoil is coming from in between different factions.
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I mean I know Redania has like a crazy king who's like very power hungry and his son is even crazier and more psychotic so like Redania is all about like you know they're kind of like the Russians where they want to like you know spread out and like you know fucking like annex different territories like Redania is all about power so I kind of understand that but like
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Everything else like I don't understand like I don't understand what's going on so I'm a little bit, I would have liked it if they explained that a little bit more like what about you do you think like no guard had to burn half the world and like.
00:17:28
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you know, make all these plans and plots to like murder children and shit like that, just to get to his daughter. Well, I see that's what I was confused about. And that's why when I finished the second season, I was like, shit, I should have went back and watched the first season again, because he ends up being the white flame, right? That's what the name is. Yeah. And so he was the porcupine dude that
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that married the elf girl that had Siri, right? I thought he was in center and I thought he died in the war. So I was like, wait, why did they even? I'm not sure on that. I'm not I'm not sure if he was the porcupine guy. Oh, that's why I thought is that's why I thought her father was.
00:18:11
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Yeah, that was her. Yeah, because she had the gift like, you know, the queen is tone. Yeah, I'm really I was a little surprised. He was like, Oh, well, like, I don't have you don't have anything that I want. So I'll just say the all surprise. And that's when he found out that, like, she was pregnant. And he was like, Oh, fuck, like, great. No, I don't understand. I don't understand the timeline because the queen appeared to be the same age.
00:18:35
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like when that event happened I know what you're talking about when the curse porcupine guy came who like you know was cursed to look like a porcupine and Geralt like jumps in is like this man is cursed yeah like right after that they go into a time period where the queen is there with Serilla the queen looks to be the same age um partner is there so I'm really like I know what you're talking about like I'm
00:19:04
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Did he get cast and go back to, was he always the...
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the their field. Sorry, say that wrong. Was he always the king in the in the south, I guess, and went did all surprise Accentra and then. First off, I'm not exactly sure where the Nilfgaardian Empire is located. I think it's south. When I looked up the map, it looked like it was they referred to the north. They were like they were going northern kingdoms in chaos. And they're real big fans of that.
00:19:39
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yeah you know i mean so like they they talk a lot about like you know the north is in chaos like that's exactly what they want and like with the kingdom's kind of like you know um feuding between one another like that's to like nofgaard's advantage because then they're able to like they were trying to give all the elves like safe haven like you know
00:20:04
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come to us, fight for us. We don't have the same racism and prejudice because obviously a big part of the world of The Witcher is the elves are treated as second-class citizens. A lot of people see them on the social, racial caste system they have there. The elves are at the very bottom, I think.
00:20:33
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Yeah, I'm not exactly sure I know that there was like some kind of like hardcore Alvin rebellion. There were big wars and stuff with a faction called the school tell but Mike.
00:20:46
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they don't really talk about that in the series so i wasn't really going to get into it i think again that's something we're going to see in the origins thing yeah yeah i hope i hope so because yeah like you said like that one of my uh it was not only knowing where everything was because there'd be times where like yennefer and syru would be like seem like they'd be taking a while to trek back to centra and then like they'd get there then suddenly fucking uh
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girl would show up and be like, wait, how did he get there so fast? Like, cause again, I didn't know where he was coming from. So yeah, there was like instances like that where, where it was kind of like, where is everything in relation to other things, but also why are people attacking certain things for reasons? Like I understand like the elving thing, that was the only thing that was made like pretty clear, but other than like,
00:21:39
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why they were trying to take this type of power, why there was beef between the kingdoms and stuff like that. I think that was, so hopefully that, yeah, that'll be explained in the, in the blood origin. I really don't understand why they didn't like, he could have at least made Sarilla aware without any kind of violence.
00:21:57
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that her father was alive and he was in fact the Emperor of Nilfgaard. He could have just like thrown that out there because she's already obviously in danger. Everybody's sort of looking for Sarilla, which is the same thing in the game. Everyone wants Ciri. Because to make the whole Witcher universe even more complicated after what we just said,
00:22:26
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there's also going to be now a lot of different dimensions where there's other creatures and where other races come from like the wild hunt like this rare elven so like they felt that like geographically it wasn't confusing and complicated enough now they're going to start throwing in different.
00:22:46
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worlds, different spheres, as they call them. And it's interesting enough because in the game, Siri talks about like how she'll like sometimes just teleport into different worlds. And in one world, it sounds like she comes to Earth.
00:23:03
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like she describes like tanks and people driving cars and like people fighting with like machine guns and stuff like that so it's like I thought that was like really interesting I don't know how hardcore that's gonna like get in the series or you know that's probably just something that was for the game but like
00:23:22
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If things weren't confusing enough, like, yeah, now in season three, they're going to have like a lot of different worlds. I'm assuming. Yeah. Because at the end of the second season, you know, the wild hunt.
00:23:36
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makes its, I think that was its first appearance. They talk about the Wild Hunt in season one. In the very first episode, the Queen of Cintra says, you know, the Wild Hunt hasn't been seen in like a long time. Like, so they're not like a big deal, but like, again, they don't explain anything about what the Wild Hunt is. They don't really talk about it that much
00:24:01
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in either season up until like the very end. I know Garrel mentions it a bunch of times. They mention it, but it's not like it's honest. But while it's upon us, like you can't like mention it. Yeah, they talk about what they leave a mystery and that's intentional, obviously. And also it's like sort of like if I was going to compare Game of Thrones like with the White Walkers, like a lot of people from when they do mention it in the series
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a lot of people think that people that have claimed to have seen the wild hunt are crazy. That like a lot of people don't think it's real. Like the white, like they don't, a lot of people think it's like just a fairy tale that used to scare children. But it obviously is very real and very terrifying and probably going to be a huge part of season three. So when they did show the,
00:25:00
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wild hunt I thought and you had mentioned that they were like more similar like you were saying that they're it's kind of similar to the white walkers but when they showed the wild hunt it reminded me more of the ring race from Lord of the Rings than it did of the white walkers I thought. Yeah um I was just comparing it to Game of Thrones so I mean I was just like using the white walkers as an example because like you know a lot of people like thought was myth
00:25:27
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like you know i mean like yeah yeah it's always a myth until like you know it's staring you right in the face and like that's the wild hunt it becomes apparent to a lot of the skeptics that like
00:25:42
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oh the wild hunt is very very very real and they have the power to pretty much just do like damage on like an epic scale like they have like tons of powers they can say yeah i mean yeah like in game of thrones they have to literally go and get one of the fucking uh
00:26:02
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the white walkers fucking like zombie fucking pets and drop it off at fucking king's land and to fucking prove that the fucking thing existed for them to even even then they were there were some people that still doubt it like the authenticity like they're like well you know this could be tricked yeah so you know and even then she was like yeah that's not my problem that's your problem in the north yeah exactly yeah it's sort of like global warming in the way yeah yeah
00:26:30
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You know, it's never it's never a problem until we're like
Favorite Elements in Season Two
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at the press test. We're like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, that is a situation. That's a problem. And then it's too late. Yeah. You know, like that movie Don't Look Up. Yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Just throw a little got to give a little shout out to that.
00:26:52
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Um, yeah, that's a different breed of horror. But, um, yeah, so, um, but, you know, just moving on, um, did you have any other, like, was there anything else that, uh, stood out to you about, uh, this season compared to last or just in general?
00:27:11
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Uh, I really liked that. I mean, I could tell like why everyone was going after Siri. I thought everyone wanted her for their own reasons to like, yeah, hours, stuff like that. I really liked the, uh, the Bobby Yaga, the, uh, the darkness, the woman in darkness. What was her name? Yeah. The, the death, uh, the wit, what the death mother deathless mother, deathless mother. She's not in the games. I don't know anything about her.
00:27:40
Speaker
So that was totally new to me like when she was down there saying hut hut like calling out to her like I had no idea what the fuck. As soon as that house stood up on the fucking chicken legs I was like oh it's a baba yaga fucking uh yeah baba yaga thing I was like I understand that so I thought that was a nice reference to like uh because that's kind of like the Russian like boogeyman or like with which thing.
00:28:04
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I think like that was in John Wick like yeah it means it literally means bogeyman and like russian or whatever a lot of times it's depicted as like she uh as a woman living in a house yeah like on chicken legs and stuff like that so like i understood that okay so you got that reference
00:28:25
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Yeah, because I mean the Witcher universe like in the games like that's just full full stuff like that And there was like a really pretty there's a particular monster. That's in one of the games. It was one of my Favorite parts of the game a monster called like I think it's called like a him or something It's like a demon and basically it is attracted to people that are in extreme pain and
00:28:53
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And it feeds off of their agony, it will make them mutilate themselves, it will make them perform cruelty to others. And like it just feeds off of their pain. And there's ways to get rid of it. But like it involves like
00:29:11
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like really extreme things like if you play the game like like there's a part where they like like try to make this guy believe that like he burned the baby alive and like that draws it it's very very pissed um but yeah in the witcher universe there's a lot of monsters like the uh
00:29:30
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that evil witch in the hut um yeah the dentist mother was off of pain you know what i mean that's a big that's a big thing yeah i really like how she feed off pain and hate and like anger stuff like that and like god off yeah and they realize that they're like shit we kind of have to fucking come together and fucking you know yeah you try to get her laughing
00:29:51
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I like that effect like when like when like some of the people that she obviously like like Yennefer who she had a lot of hold over like they were she was always whispering in her ear and when um what was the uh the sorceress of Nilfgaard the one that made the deal with the elves
00:30:18
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Well, Frangela, when she, I still never understood like how the high commander that like what she like does that thing where she freezes on my favorite scenes. Yeah, she just like stabs the one guy I am. Yes.
00:30:40
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You can hear the witch laughing as she does that. The witch is getting off on that. I don't understand. She killed all of his boys. They were all talking shit. They were planning to fuck her over.
00:30:57
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And she goes up to him and is like, you know, I'll never know like whether or not you plan to fuck me over. But because of that, I'm not going to kill you. I want you to rave to the emperor and say, like, you know, all the great shit I did. He seemed to kind of let that go rather quickly because the next time you see him talking to her, like they're like, cool. Yeah. And I was like, I would have more been like,
00:31:25
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Yo bitch that was not fucking cool like you murdered the entire high command in front of me and then like put a knife to my throat like we need to talk about this. Because I think he might have been been playing as well and then like once he saw like
00:31:43
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that what she can do like he was though he didn't seem like he was once she saw what he can do he was like fuck dude i cannot fuck with her i need to play cool with her and pretend like fucking nothing happens like yeah i'm just saying like i don't know if i would have let that go as i would have been like you know like look i've never given you any reason you spied on that conversation
00:32:07
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You heard me say that, like, you weren't the enemy and we should all be working together, which is what he was saying. Yeah, he was like arguing what I'm saying. Like, he's like, yeah, fragile is not the problem here. Like, you know, I mean, we're all supposed to be working together like to achieve this common goal. And like this infighting, this silly internal strife isn't helping anymore. And that's what he was saying when she was spying.
00:32:32
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So, like, I'm just saying, like, I would have been like, you know, like, what the fuck? Like, you really need to put on that display in front of me and then threaten me in such a way when, like, you heard me saying, like, you know, that for me, that would have fucking pissed me off. But whatever. I mean, what are you going to do? Like, yeah, she can fucking kill you at any moment. Like, she's that fucking powerful.
00:32:55
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Well, she's obviously not that powerful because the Emperor, she mentions how she doesn't want to go back to the dungeon ever again. Yeah. So obviously, at some point during her tenure in the service of Nilfgaard, it implies that she ran afoul with the bureaucracy of their politics and was in the dungeon.
00:33:22
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Yeah, I don't know what are with them at one point. And why is that, I think? Well, I think no, I think during the attack on Nilfgaard, because remember her and Yennefer end up in prison together. So I think she got
00:33:38
Speaker
call it during the battle. I thought she was referring to a time when she was in hot water within the kingdom of Noah. I don't know. I just think she meant being locked up in general because they run into each other and they both end up being captured. Yeah, no, I know that. I believe that I thought she was talking to the High Commander about that.
00:34:01
Speaker
on the Nilfgaardian High Commander. I thought she was referring to a time when she got in trouble with Nilfgaard because Nilfgaard is known to be like rather unforgiving about like failures and stuff like that. And like dungeons and torturing are, you know, just parts of like, you know, the way they do business.
00:34:23
Speaker
Yeah, I just assumed it was like her talking about her being... Yeah, maybe I misunderstood. That's where I took it. But for as powerful as she was, she was not able to get herself out of that at the end. She wasn't able to just teleport away.
00:34:42
Speaker
You know, the white flame was basically just like, yeah, you guys are lying to my face. I'm the one that had that baby killed. There's a lot of baby killing in this. Yeah, like, you know, yeah, like killing a child is like a terrible thing. And that's why I had to do it, you spineless lying fucks. You know, like, had them thrown in the dungeon.
00:35:08
Speaker
And we should also mention one of the reasons that Frangela acted the way she did is she teleports to visit her uncle, I believe it is. That's part of the brotherhood, the brotherhood of sort. And she's like basically saying like uncle, like
00:35:31
Speaker
I need help. I fucked up in Nilfgaard like I thought I had arranged this like great union between Nilfgaard and the elves, the Emperor is going to find out I'm a total fucking failure.
00:35:45
Speaker
Like I know I've broken what they call the walls of chaos. Chaos refers to magic in the world of the Witcher and like how you control your chaos is like, you know, your magical abilities. And like, she's like, I know I experimented with forbidden magic and whatnot, but like I'm asking you for help. Like my life is, I'm in serious danger here, matter of life and death.
00:36:11
Speaker
and her father, who I believe is the same actor that plays the original Candyman. I think it's him. I don't think it's him. I'm pretty certain that is the Candyman. You can look it up if you want as we go, but what's your McCall? I mean, I call them the Candyman. That's who I call. I don't know his name. I'm pretty sure it's him. But anyway,
00:36:39
Speaker
he kind of insults her and he's like you know what you don't have to like forgive like uh for betraying us you have to forgive that like a stupid little girl like you thought you could make any difference whatsoever in Nilfgaard he was insinuating that like you know she was like a petty
00:37:03
Speaker
you know person that just didn't have the ability to really make any real change in the world and that she should fall in line and know her place. He insults her really hardcore and that's when she goes back to Nilfgaard and you know stabs that guy's eye out and does all that other shit.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's not. It's not Tony Todd. It's not. It's not him now. Oh, I thought maybe I just really wanted it to be him. Yeah. Obviously, I thought I thought I thought it was unless it might have been the actor who gets blamed at first for Tony Todd's for the candy man killings. Yeah. But that's a different actor. Yeah, I know. I think I know who you're talking about.
00:37:50
Speaker
Well, they look a lot similar either way. What's McCall. So yeah, he like insults her real hardcore because she does like try to basically say like, I'm in over my head. I need help. And he
00:38:05
Speaker
I don't know why he decided to like not just like say all right we'll make a case for your forgiveness instead he like terribly like berates her and you know humiliates her right there patronizes her death and she basically like flips out and goes back to Nilfgaard and just executes the entire high command which made the witch really happy
00:38:30
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, I'm not sure. Yeah, I didn't really understood like why he acted that way. I guess he's just a real fucking asshole. Yeah. Yeah, I'm still like and I'm like a little bit confused about like the brotherhood is what they call it in the
00:38:52
Speaker
in the series I believe in the game they call it the lodge and that's like the commune of like sorceresses and leaders and stuff like that I'm like a little bit like I'm confused on like how that works like bureaucratically
00:39:10
Speaker
Like, because they had all the kings and queens at the table at the end when they decide to put the bounty out on Ciri. You know, because they say at the end, like, you know, it'd be better if she was just dead. Not that, like, you know, they say it was easier when Siroa was thought to be dead. And they all decide for some reason, like, again, they don't like try to reach out.
00:39:39
Speaker
and even say like if this is a sort of reasonable girl like everybody's going to like great extremes to like deal with this situation. They decide to kill her not even reach out to Geralt or other people that they know she's close to that they could at least like gauge temperature and see like maybe we could resolve this without violence like
00:40:03
Speaker
Instead they try to kill her, Nilfgaard decides to wage a war across the entire continent. There's no normal communication and like, I don't get that. Am I alone? It's because she, you know, she's got that elder part and she can be used for like nefarious reasons.
Ciri's Training and Development
00:40:22
Speaker
So like, it's better if they just- They don't even know about that till the very end. Yeah, I know. But like,
00:40:29
Speaker
um but i'm well when that's when they decide to kill her and then that's when they decide like hey it's better if we kill her than let her fall into the hands of the enemy that's how i you know i guess but like does the brotherhood at the end know that she's elder blood because the elves find out
00:40:49
Speaker
the witchers find out. Nilfgaard, of course, the Emperor knows it because, you know, he obviously fucked her mother. So he's aware of the situation. But I don't know if like the brotherhood, like when they decided to put the bounty out on her, I'm not sure if they were aware. I believe they do. I thought it was mentioned. It was mentioned. I'm not sure. Like I'm hazy there. But like,
00:41:16
Speaker
again like it just seems like everyone is going to like what would be in my book the nuclear option yeah absolutely my first like i would try to attempt some kind of diplomacy or just even open like the slightest line of communication to see if there's any chance i might get like a
00:41:41
Speaker
okay why don't we meet up and discuss this like you know like instead it's just like assassins or mass war like you know all over one person regardless of their powers one thing that is clear though is that no one really except like Geralt and Yennefer at the end and maybe the wild hunt really understand what series potential is yeah
00:42:11
Speaker
Because the only people that know what serious potential is are the people that have witnessed it. And like it's not till the very end where Yennefer is just like, holy fucking shit. Like, I don't care what is promised to me. Like this, like I've never even heard of the power that she wields. Like, you know, I mean, so she's at the point where like, you know, she at the end
00:42:41
Speaker
is trying to break like the kind of union that her and the evil witch had about her getting her power back. She's just like, no, like, in no way. Yeah. Because she was like, I thought like, I wanted my power back. I thought I liked the chaos magic, but like, yeah.
00:43:03
Speaker
As soon as I saw what she could do, I was like, fuck that, like, fuck whatever I did. Like, I'm sorry. Like we have to do. Yeah. Like she has something that I, I mean, I don't even understand. Like, yeah. I mean, in the games, like they explain a little bit more, but like, yeah, they're just coming to at the very end, like trying like.
00:43:29
Speaker
trying to even understand like what she's capable of, no one really gets it. Like they're talking about like how we need to like sit down and try to like even identify her ability so we could teach her how to control it. Because she feels she talks about how she always feels like she's on the like cusp of like losing control. And like when she gets pissed off
00:43:55
Speaker
She creates tears in the crust of the earth. These fucking new monsters, which, by the way, I think all the monsters, since this is a horror show, we should talk about the monsters. All the monsters look greater than the first season.
00:44:09
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with that. It felt like almost like every episode we were getting to see like a new monster. It seemed like I was like, oh, this is fucking fantastic. Yeah. It reminded me of like, Geralt, like in the games, how you would take a contract, you get to a new town, you go up to the post-it board, you'd pick off a contract for like a
00:44:30
Speaker
of Griffin that's killing people or something like that. And like, yeah, it kind of reminded me, there was always like some kind of new creature. Yeah, I like the monsters in season two more, but Geralt kind of had mentioned that like he was starting to see monsters that he had never even heard of before. And he was like kind of leading that like, there was like a dimensional situation.
00:44:56
Speaker
Uh, sort of like, uh, I guess the mist, how like new monsters were coming in from another dimension. Like, so yeah, like things were getting things are starting to get like more complex.
00:45:13
Speaker
Yeah, but speaking of monsters, like one of my favorite episodes, I don't remember if it was like the first or second, but when a girl goes to see that like beast dude, and then like there's the woman living in the ceiling. Yeah, it's called a Brux. Yeah, she's a vampire that has like, the Brux are like a unique type of vampire.
00:45:37
Speaker
in that they look like a beautiful woman. They have the power to, of course, transform into their true form. And they have this ability where they can let out a really high-pitched screech that's paralyzing and even has the power to create a huge force that can lift you off your feet.
00:46:03
Speaker
But in like the games too though, they're able to kind of like they look like beautiful women and they'll like be able to like warm men into an alley because like they look like just like beautiful like
00:46:20
Speaker
just like very enticing like femme fatales and they like war men and also other women and in the games it's interesting too because they even like kind of talk to like wildlife like you know you're near a bruxah because the birds will start singing and stuff like that they're very interesting creature it's like a different take because there's like many different forms of vampire
00:46:47
Speaker
in the Witcher world. There's lower vampires, there's higher vampires, and there's like the Bruxah. And the Bruxah is like my favorite kind of vampire. So I know what you mean. I just mean like the whole story of like how he was cursed to be in that form until like the true love. So it was a very like a cool take on the beauty and the beast scenario.
00:47:11
Speaker
Yeah, like she was she was a monster and Siri like didn't want to kill her. She was like, if she's a monster, I'm a monster. Like, yeah, I mean, for me and then like when she is finally killed, he is broken free of the curse because he was in love with the Brux and stuff like that. So I thought that whole like that when you find out it's just Tormund from Game of Thrones.
00:47:32
Speaker
What was that? Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, that's me. That's the guy I played. No idea until he changed. Yeah, he he's like one of my he might be my favorite character in all Game of Thrones. He's really great in the books. But yeah, I thought that was a fantastic like episode and it was all. Yeah. I feel like a standalone episode at the same time. It like kind of helped you understand like series character a little more and like
00:47:57
Speaker
Yeah, and everything like then like she's like, well, fuck like, and this is before she even like got to Geralt's home to start like training with, I did like the whole training stuff with Geralt and then like when she starts training a little bit with Yennefer as well, and with the Vesmir with the potions and stuff like that. I like how she's getting
00:48:19
Speaker
all her different aspects of training going on, too. I thought that was really good. One thing that's very interesting that I think I should mention is, see, in the Witcher, in the games,
00:48:32
Speaker
Vesemir is very anti ever-creating new witchers. He refers to the trial of the grasses to be an absolutely barbaric practice. He does mention it in the show, too. Him and the great witchers are adamantly against it. They're glad. Don't get me wrong, they're not happy that the witchers are going to die out forever.
00:49:00
Speaker
But like they are talk about how they are glad that they are never ever going to submit that to any young boy or young girl, because regardless of what I mean it has a very low success rate like I think like only one in 10 live.
00:49:17
Speaker
And it is also an extremely agonizingly painful process. Yeah, apparently they cover a lot of that in the in that animated series because it's all about Vesemir and like him meeting Geralt. And yeah, I'm just saying their attitudes are like wildly different, like Vesemir would never have exposed Siri to that in the game.
00:49:42
Speaker
Well, in this, in the show, he didn't want to either. But when, like, she's like, no, this is what I like, this is what I want. Like, you have. Yeah, I know. I get that. He's like any very good. Never made that deal because he would never have wanted to make new witchers is what I'm saying. So like, that's a deal. Like in the game world, he would never do that to anyone.
00:50:04
Speaker
So, like, you know, I mean, that that was just like an interesting contradiction because his eyes light up when he see like literally when he's like, holy shit, like this is elder blood, like we can like start making witchers again. Like, you know, he's like real happy. That is a dramatic contradiction to like the Vesemir from the game, who's like sort of like a lovable grandpa who like
00:50:33
Speaker
would never, you know, hurt a fly unless like, you know, it was a monster and there was a contract out for it. Well, I'm assuming it's close to the books then and that. Yeah, yeah, I don't see that's the thing. Never read that. So like, I don't know. But I agree. I like the training sequences. And I was very happy that they did not do a montage.
00:50:56
Speaker
Yeah, me too. I was going to ask you what you thought about that. Did you think there might be a montage coming? I thought there might have been, but I'm glad they didn't. I'm glad it was so train and then like you would see like the other witchers come out and they'd be like, look at this fucking chick. She can't fucking do this shit. And they'd like talk shit to her. Then like when she started to go through it, they're like, yo, you need to come check this shit out. Like she's going to make through this shit. And then when she fall on her ass, like I don't even girl would like to see her fall on her ass and be like,
00:51:25
Speaker
yeah so like get the fuck back up and fucking do it like yeah well yeah like yeah like let's get that going um one of my favorite monsters from the games is something called the legend which they uh touch on it's the uh monster that um
Casting and Character Transformations
00:51:45
Speaker
a school tangles with in the woods that makes them transform into that tree like Oh yeah, I thought that was really cool. Yeah, the lichens are a very challenging enemy in the game you run into them in a deep forest and again like
00:52:01
Speaker
or they attract wolves and stuff like that and like yeah like the ground raises up and roots come out after you and like they're like one of the more challenging enemies so like when I was like oh shit they're a lichen like I was like really looking the only thing is like um I didn't like about that is I had never heard of a lichen being able to um
00:52:26
Speaker
like infect another person and therefore infect the Witcher. And I would think if it did, like I think he would have come back and be like, yo, I think I fucked up. Like I got in this battle with a legend and like I don't he mentions how when he got back
00:52:45
Speaker
he didn't feel right. And the witchers that I know from like the story, he would have like went back to them and said something to them like right away. Like, I think there's something wrong with me. Instead, he goes down the mountain and picks up a pack of whores and brings them back to Karamori, which is something that did not. So like that, but again,
00:53:11
Speaker
I haven't read the books maybe things like that happen every once in a while because like the Vesemir from the game would not have been happy about like you know the pack of whores that come in like you know he Vesemir seems like he's feeling it when Geralt walks in it's like what's going on he's there like with a drink like oh hey what's up yeah
00:53:33
Speaker
like I don't know so yeah but like you know like I said haven't read the book so got something that's going to be on my list like you said the games are on your list the audio books are on my audio books and the game is definitely on my list as well I probably won't get to it so I probably won't get into it until after the prequel season but I'll do it before the third season comes out so
00:53:56
Speaker
I would recommend if I would make a recommendation to anyone that was thinking about getting into the games is I really think you can skip the first game, because it really doesn't have much to do with like the stories like in the later games, like they barely even mentioned the plot of like the first game. Um, so and it's also like very dated. It was a PC exclusive that came out
00:54:21
Speaker
in like I think 2004, 2005 and like it's a kind of a dated game so like if I was going to play the games and I won, I would start with The Witcher part two and then go into The Witcher 3 because they were actually
00:54:40
Speaker
Yeah, well, I'm just saying like this story continues like I wish I had gone back and played the Witcher 2 because there was a lot of a lot of people I forgot. One of which is I love the actor that played Dijkstra.
00:54:57
Speaker
who was the spy for Redanian's intelligence service, and he had the owl that he was always talking to. The owl is a sorceress that they don't say her name. I don't think in the series, but I know her from the games. Her name is Felipe Eilhart, I believe. And she works for Dijkstra. She's like the sorceress in Redania who like advises them.
00:55:24
Speaker
And, you know, Dijkstra, he has like a and they made this known in the series that he's like in charge of ridiculous spies. He's like their CIA. Yeah. Like I like that actor. He was in another show I had watched recently. So I was I got to tell you, like, I don't know, like.
00:55:45
Speaker
An interesting thing about The Witcher is I don't know a lot of the actors, like until I saw them in the first Witcher series and then season two. I don't know a lot of the actors, but the ones that I discovered are really good. You know what I mean? It's a cast I wasn't very familiar with.
00:56:08
Speaker
Yeah, I think everybody stepped up their game this season, too, where, like, you can even the just just just pure the singer guy who I didn't really like from the first season. I like the line like they did in the first in the first season. They called it. I didn't even know his name was Jesper in the games. They call him Dan, the line. I thought I thought in season one, they called him Dan, the line.
00:56:33
Speaker
Like I didn't actually know like it was just his nickname. Everybody referred to him as Dan the Lion. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Well, I think just just pure or something like that. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I like he did. He's actually I don't know him from anything else. And I was watching the one episode where he's like bathing in
00:56:54
Speaker
like uh like an outdoor stream like by a waterfall or something and the girl i was watching was like damn like even back in the which he looks like he hit the gym hard he's like he got rich yeah carol makes fun of him for that too it's just like
00:57:12
Speaker
yeah you're still fucking weak dude he was like he's got like an eight pack he was like fucking all the way shredded like like a muscular like yeah like you look like you go about fighters um he's probably fucking more buff than fucking uh
00:57:29
Speaker
When the doors throw the fucking axe on him, he's like, really hate that shirt, don't they? Then he's like, again, in the back to him, like, all like, bainty, like, he's just like, yeah, here's your fucking axe back. Like, he clearly doesn't know how to fight yet. He's fucking wrecked. Yeah, I was just like, I just didn't think, like, I thought, like, the, um, the six pack or like eight pack abs,
00:57:53
Speaker
Like I thought that was more of like a creation of like, you know, our present day, like gym equipment, like the Bowflex and stuff. I didn't even know like guys could be that shredded back then. He was just doing hand crunches, man. He just, yeah, totally. Yeah. It was just, I don't know. Yeah. I see that stuck out for you.
00:58:15
Speaker
I mean, I just thought he was a much better character this season. I didn't really like him that much the first season. I was like, oh, this guy's kind of annoying. But the second season, he's a really good singer. He was a great choice for the Bard. Again, I've never seen him in anything else.
00:58:34
Speaker
I couldn't identify him or half the actor, like 95% of the actors in The Witcher I've not seen in anything else before. And everybody has been great. And like you said, they stepped it up some. One thing I was a little unhappy about, but hey, it's no big deal, is the actor that played the boar that cursed
00:59:05
Speaker
I thought he was going to be a regular character. He might come back, who knows. And it was interesting that he got cursed.
00:59:16
Speaker
because he like robbed the church and like raped the priestess he says she's the one and it kind of reminded me of what happened in Game of Thrones in the first season when Drago's people sacked that church and they rape all the worshippers and stuff like that and she kind of gets her revenge on Drago. I don't know I just picked that up and another thing is the whole
00:59:45
Speaker
the first episode with the Brux and I said I really like the Brux and I thought the special effects in that episode were especially good at the end where he shoves the state through her. Yeah, you know when she's about to chase down Siri because she's trying to control herself and she's like if you run
01:00:03
Speaker
i have to go after you like i can't control myself don't run because the brux are like such a predatory vampire they just can't help it when their prey starts running and he stabs her and then like how she like turns her whole head around and like then turns her whole body around and like you hear the bones crunching yeah
01:00:25
Speaker
And she starts pulling like herself closer to them and like your mind or no one's like, I thought that, I thought the special effects were fucking great. Like I was worried that they were going to overdo it with season two because I heard about all the monsters and the portals and stuff. And there was a period at the, in the last episode where she keeps bringing monsters through where I thought like,
01:00:52
Speaker
Maybe they went a little bit overboard with the special effects, but it was nothing to the point where I was like, all right, that's too much CGI. I thought for the most part, it looked really good. I was worried that they were going to get a little bit too crazy with the CGI, but I thought it was just the right amount.
01:01:15
Speaker
Yeah, I think the thing with the torment thing is, uh, as one of the reasons probably why he wasn't a bear character. And the reason you only see his face for a few seconds is because everyone would have been like, Oh, it's hormones in this show from the game of thrones, like the whole time. Like, I think that's one reason that probably why they hit his face for most of that episode and only revealed.
01:01:35
Speaker
his face at the end, because I think everyone watching it would have been like, oh, it's Torm Tormunds in the show, a Tormund. My friend who I watched, it was a huge Game of Thrones fan, and she didn't know it was Tormund until I told her afterwards, even when they showed his face, because of Game of Thrones. Oh, because he had that beard, yeah.
01:01:52
Speaker
he's got a huge beard and he's like maybe three times the size of like you can see in Game of Thrones like he was obviously like wearing like multiple layers of like fat suits to make him look like much huger you know they call him a giant you know giants man so um
01:02:11
Speaker
in this show you see him as actually like he appeared like kind of short in real life and he didn't seem that buff like I don't even know if he would he
Henry Cavill's Dedication and Rumors
01:02:21
Speaker
wasn't even like shred it like dandelion they made they made uh sure to make sure Geralt was more than he was when he had him like standing side by side with throwing knives and stuff too so that was probably another reason but yeah the camera adds a good like six inches to Geralt's height
01:02:40
Speaker
I don't know he is kind of tall though too. Yeah I mean yeah it's just so weird seeing him from like Count of Monte Cristo as that like scrawny like kid in Count of Monte Cristo to like you know Superman and Geralt now like yeah. Well how long ago was that Count of Monte Cristo? 2002-ish? 2001? So we're talking about that was him 20 years ago. Yeah yeah.
01:03:03
Speaker
this is i didn't even know that that was human cow my christa he didn't have like that big of a role and i had never seen the actor before i'm most uh no he was uh i know him from the show right or is that guy pierces son in uh
01:03:22
Speaker
Well, he was guy, he was actually Edmund on. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Guy Pierce was tricked into. Jim Caviezel's, Jim Caviezel's son, Jesus's son. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And that's why I went like, I originally heard that like, uh, Henry Cavill was going to be Superman. I thought, I thought, um, it was him that played, uh, Henry Cavill, Superman. Yeah.
01:03:52
Speaker
I'm glad I didn't know that until just now. You know, how did you not know that? I watch Superman. I hate fucking superhero movies. Yeah, I understand that. But I mean, like, I mean, no, I'm glad I know. I'm just I'm saying I'm glad I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's like he wants to return to the role again, but he's happy playing the witcheries. He's loving doing the fantasy stuff.
01:04:19
Speaker
So have you seen some of the interviews where people were like, oh, Harry Potter game of Thrones and he's like Lord of the Rings like he's super like he he like paints miniatures from like war hammer and stuff like that like he's like super fucking dirt like
01:04:37
Speaker
Oh, really? Yeah, if you watch the interviews. I watched two interviews with him, one where he's talking about the playing the Witcher games, because he apparently has like
01:04:51
Speaker
made like, I don't know, like five different Geralt builds in the Witcher three talked about how he like has finished the entire game doing all the side quests multiple times. Second Witcher game, the first like he's played the all the like, and he's made a bunch of different Geralt builds a mage build a fucking sword. Yeah, so he's like real nerdy into the games. And then the other interview I saw with him
01:05:19
Speaker
was a more recent interview. The one where he was playing the games, that was an interview I saw before the first season aired. The other interview I saw was where he was talking about how he injured himself. Oh, yeah. Halfway through in filming. And he's pointing out certain parts. They're showing clips of season two. And he's like, yeah, you see the face I'm making. He's like,
01:05:46
Speaker
I wasn't making that face like trying to act like I was in horrible fucking agony and he was like talking about how I I think he had broke a bone in his foot and he's like jogging on it and he's like yeah he's like where I look real angry in that I think it might have been where he came in there was a scene where he like comes in and shops like some Nilfgaardian's head off with his sword
01:06:13
Speaker
Yeah, he like comes in like he's like, yeah, he's like, I wasn't just acting angry. I was angry and in a lot of pain. So I thought I thought that was like, well, I mean, not that make fun of his pain. Yeah, he was pumped about like, that's how just into it. He was like, yeah.
01:06:35
Speaker
like he's fucking real pumped about like fantasy and like yeah that's good it's cool seeing like stars like that especially fucking super fucking ripped fucking dudes that are just like yeah i'm fucking a super fucking nerd what about like i've seen interviews where like people try to like make fun of him for that and he just plays it he's like yeah i'm into this shit like what the fuck do you do like
01:07:00
Speaker
Yeah, I prefer him to be passionate about he loves to Carol, Carol. Yeah, I mean he is the perfect guy to play this. When I first heard it with him I was like, Oh man, I really don't know if I can see him being Carol, and within the first like
01:07:17
Speaker
10 minutes, I would say, of the first episode of season one. I was like, never mind, he's Geralt to me. Like, he just immediately, like, he looked, I mean, yeah, obviously. These are the actors I like that are passionate about what they're doing and not, I don't know, aren't just doing it for a paycheck like some other people we know, like Bruce Willis, who just does it for a paycheck.
01:07:38
Speaker
Yeah, well, I think we have a whole cast on actors that just do shit for paychecks. But yeah, and just to be clear, I just wanted to mention on the cast, there are there's still apparently because I looked at last night when I googled it, there's still apparently like a couple like articles from these like absolutely like bullshit fucking websites that don't do any fact checking.
01:08:04
Speaker
about like, Henry Cavill like being fired or quitting the Witcher see the Witcher series, and for some reason you come across that like is absolute bullshit. Just, there's some misinformation that has apparently been like,
01:08:22
Speaker
on the internet for a while now and now there was like a second thing about it like it is just total and complete horseshit. He is totally immersed into this like we just said like so if you hear anything about him leaving or being fired like just disregard that.
01:08:39
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, really check like the sources like sometimes you'll see the website might be like a somewhat reliable one but where you see they got it from you're like, Oh, like I don't know it's like, or it's something like from some YouTuber information or some shit like that it's kind of like
01:08:56
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's kind of bullshit. This is coming from like a variety or some like, you know, legit like movie, like source than like I hear from him or yeah, like from like the director. Yeah. A producer of the show, a spokesman for the show or like Netflix or something. Yeah. Comes out and says like, you know, unfortunately, like blah, blah, blah, because I was thinking like, how the fuck is season two going that?
01:09:22
Speaker
like they're gonna change Geralt's like they did with like the Spartacus you know character but they had to do it with Spartacus because the original Spartacus died of cancer. Well yeah he was going through he was going through chemo and that's why they did the prequel season and then because the report when he would come back yeah then he ended up dying they were like well we still have to do this other season we have to
01:09:46
Speaker
Yeah, so they had to go there like, you know, it was a dire situation. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know how Henry like, yes. So but like, I had heard that from a friend and then two online sources. So I hesitate to even mention it. But like, we live in the age of misinformation. So like, you know, double check when you hear horseshit.
01:10:08
Speaker
yeah that's why i try not to like when i do like the news and stuff which i didn't do this week because we had a lot to talk about but like i try not to do like rumors i try to find like actual factual information to put out there i mean rumors are fun to talk about like if you're just speculating on what's going to happen like in another series speculation
01:10:30
Speaker
Yeah but to like come out and say that it's like fact that this is actually something that happened is just ridiculous. Yeah like you know like whether it's that or you know I mean we're just talking about like you know fantasy horror and stuff like that but like you know you see like shit about like you know I don't even want to get into
Future of The Witcher Series and Impact on Cast
01:10:51
Speaker
Oh, everything going on in the world. Yeah, we're not going to talk. Yeah. Just Joe Rogan. That's all I'm going to say. Google what's going on with him right now. Anyway, but I don't really have that much more. I mean, I could like just rant on for like another hour about the Witcher, but I just thought it was
01:11:12
Speaker
I mean, you could pretty much get it from what I've said. I loved it. Yeah, I think that about wrapped up. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think that about wraps it up. If for some reason you listen to this entire goddamn thing and hadn't seen the show yet, like.
01:11:26
Speaker
Hey, what's wrong with you? But B, go out and fucking watch the fucking show again. Yeah. And do you know when The Witcher Origins is supposed to? Because it looks like it's in its post-production. It looks like it's already done. Yeah, it just in that trailer, it didn't say when exactly. It just said it just said this year.
01:11:49
Speaker
So, hopefully by summer but might not be till fall, because they might want to spread it out give this some time yeah just came out the end of what like December. So like they might want to wait until like maybe like October November, and then that that way they'll already money is going to be yeah money is obviously going to be one yeah um.
01:12:09
Speaker
I mean of course we want it sooner so we can watch it but like my money is on fall this year so that way they're in production of season three and then by the time season three's finished and love like you know we get like one a year off. Do you think Witcher Origins season one is going to come out before Witcher season three? Absolutely. I'm guessing yeah and then like right after that it would be like season three of The Witcher.
01:12:33
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think they've even started production on season three yet. Yeah. I know if I haven't really read into it, but that I know if I don't think they started season three production, they might be in pre-production. Oh, actually, no, they have started pre-production because there were pictures on the
01:12:51
Speaker
I think not the location, they were location scouting last I saw, because they had posted pictures of them walking through fields and stuff like that. So they're moving right along. Yeah, so they're location scouting now, but they haven't started filming yet.
01:13:07
Speaker
uh i'm pumped about that yeah i mean it sounds like they're moving right along like you know what i mean like everybody's pumped about it like you know i mean like this is obviously going to make a lot of careers because like said multiple times like i don't know a lot of the cast i haven't seen them another so i'm thinking like you know uh
01:13:25
Speaker
a lot of the actors probably in the show are going to end up like getting recognition from this and like getting bigger and stuff like that. I hope they're able to keep the cast together if the show goes on for like
01:13:37
Speaker
say like six or seven seasons like Game of Thrones or something like that. Yeah well hopefully they cover all the books that's that's my main. Well that would be that would be eight seasons so like you know I mean I'm hoping like one of the things that was so amazing about Game of Thrones and you know they talk about this HBO the producers talk about
01:13:58
Speaker
is that they were able to lock in the cast. I mean that's what made it. Like if you were to lose like a key member the entire thing would have fallen apart. So I'm just wondering if there was a great article about how like the producers of like Game of Thrones
01:14:16
Speaker
learn from what happened with the television show, Rome, that was an HBO show. Like they understood how to balance the budget and that like gave them the ability to like figure out how to work this shit out. And I'm hoping that the Netflix producers and the people that are involved in working The Witcher are able to, if it is successful and carries on for another eight seasons,
01:14:45
Speaker
which would be amazing. I hope that they're able to, you know, do the same thing, like replicate it. And, you know, because I loved every season of Game of Thrones. I hate to keep comparing it to Game of Thrones, but like it's like it's a similar show. But like, I guess in closing, we had mentioned
01:15:08
Speaker
You had said fantasy horror and kind of emphasize that when we opened the cast and that was like the big thing that me and you kind of had talked about like off the cast was like, do we consider the Witcher to be like,
01:15:24
Speaker
like really like hardcore immersed in the horror genre. And I would argue like that, like Game of Thrones, I thought was just like kind of like a fantasy show. I wouldn't call Game of Thrones horror. I mean, it's sort of fantasy horror. So it's something we could talk about. But I thought the Witcher series, you know, the franchise itself is like based a lot more in the horror.
01:15:49
Speaker
realm than Game of Thrones was. Yeah, I mean, the main character was straight up monster hunter. So like, yeah, a bit much more fucking. And I believe that season three is going to as the story progresses from what I know, things begin to get a lot more horrible.
01:16:16
Speaker
Like, right now, the world is the Witcher world is like, going through like a more peaceful process, despite all the war and suffering. Once the wild hunt gets involved, things get a lot more pissed. So like, this is like sort of the calm before the storm right now, if you get my jet. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
01:16:42
Speaker
One good benefit that the Witcher has that Game of Thrones in it, at least the Witcher books are finished, the story's done. I do have.
01:16:52
Speaker
They're always going to have the material there. There's going to be no winging it like they're not going to surpass.
Continuity and Future Witcher Content
01:17:01
Speaker
They're not going to surpass the works of the author and then have to like, you know, get notes and be like, well, all right, well, we're going to take it this direction. Like, fuck it. Like, we don't know what to do at this point. I mean, unless, yeah, unless they do like spinoffs or something like that, like, you know, I mean, but I think even like the Witcher origins,
01:17:21
Speaker
I believe that story is already like written. I think that's another collection of short stories. Yeah, I wonder if any of the characters from the origins are going to show up in season three because, you know, like witchers and stuff like that tend to live.
01:17:37
Speaker
a long time and so to like elves and stuff like that so yeah they make they say no witcher i'm not sure how long there was actually talk about that in the games and like forums i've seen because like um there's like uh the sorceresses live like hundreds i think like they can live like almost a thousand years um i know that there's like witchers like in the stories that are like well over 400 years old but they say that like
01:18:07
Speaker
The one thing I hear is they say no Witcher has ever died of old age, like, which is like, like Geralt says that Vesemir says that he's like the older, the oldest Witcher I ever knew, like died fighting.
01:18:22
Speaker
Yeah, I think they're made from elder blood and elves live a long time, like I just assume they live a long time as well. Yeah, I think there's elves that live like a thousand years, or more than a thousand years, maybe even. I'm not a hundred percent certain, so don't quote me on that, but anyway. Yeah, so, but yeah, I think we covered everything once and once time over, so
01:18:47
Speaker
I'm immensely psyched about it, really loved it. And yeah, I'm really pumped up about season three. I have my reservations about the Witcher Origins thing. I'm not sure if it's gonna be as good, but I'm gonna check it out. I'm really psyched up about the Witcher right now. And yeah, I'm gonna check out the animated thing maybe before our next cast. And if it's worth it, maybe I'll mention that.
01:19:16
Speaker
next time we cast. Yeah I figured uh I'll probably watch Origins then the animated then season one season two into season three is is my uh my goal next time. Yeah I was just gonna check the animated thing out to see if it was like worth my time like I'm I'm not sure but from I've heard good things about it so.
01:19:37
Speaker
All right, well, yeah, that about wraps it up. I'm sure we'll think of other things once we finish. But yeah, thanks for joining me.
01:19:50
Speaker
Yeah, we talked for we talked for like an hour and 20 minutes. I planned on making it. But like we knew we knew coming in like this was something I was like, we were both like very passionate about. So sorry, we talked about for so long. But like, hey, man, this is something I want. So I just kept thinking about more shit to come up as we went along. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, oh, yeah, I remember this thing. Yeah. Yeah.
01:20:15
Speaker
Our last cast, when we talked about like Resident Evil, like summed everything up in five minutes. Yeah. So thank you guys for listening. And yeah, man, take care of yourself. And I will see you next time. Yeah. You too, buddy. Thanks for listening, everyone. Peace.